This week on Intergrid International, we're joined by the one and only Dr. Joe Roth. Joe is a pediatrician in Los Angeles, California, who was born in Indiana and raised in Southern California. He grew up in the streets of Los Angeles in the 60s and 70s, and went on to become one of the most successful doctors in the country. Joe talks about growing up on the mean streets of LA in the 70s and early 80s, how he got his start in medicine, and what it was like growing up as a Japanese-American in the 80s and 90s. We also talk about what it's like to grow up in Japan, and how he was introduced to the martial arts and martial arts arts in general by his father, a doctor in the Japanese medical community. And, of course, we talk about the great outdoors and his love of t-shirts and hoodies. It's a great episode, and we hope you enjoy it as much as we enjoyed recording it! We'll see you next week with a brand new episode of Intergrid. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe, Like, and Share, and Tell a Friend about this podcast on whatever platform you're listening to it on your favorite streaming platform! Thank you for listening and sharing! Timestamps: 4:00 - What's your favorite thing about this episode? 5:30 - What do you think of it? 6: What would you like to see me talk about next? 7: What are you looking for? 8:15 - What is your favorite piece of food? 9:20 - What kind of food do you're eating? 11:40 - What s your favorite meal? 13: What's the best thing you're cooking? 15:00- What's a good day? 16:30- What are your favorite restaurant? 17:15- What is the worst thing you veezer? 18:40- How do you would like to hear me cook? 19: What s a good place to eat in the next episode of a movie? 22:00 23: How do I feel about you're a little bit more? 27:00 -- what do you want me to talk about this one? 26:30 -- how do you feel about it?
00:02:21.000Dinner meant going to the hospital, meet dad, you know.
00:02:24.000And when we came out to LA, the Japanese were kind of peripheral.
00:02:30.000Spanish-speaking people, curiously enough, you know, the running story was that there were six Spanish-speaking people at UCLA and three of them were in gardening.
00:03:27.000Southern California, of course, is different.
00:03:29.000A lot of you are listening in with five layers and going, hey, I'm not driving anywhere for the next three days according to the weather map.
00:03:38.000But here, for example, it's t-shirt weather.
00:05:03.000Well, you pitch a ball someday, I'm going to play for the Yankees, Joe.
00:05:07.000I loves to wrestle and grapple, and someday I'm going to get in the middle of a ring, and Joe Rogan's going to say my name.
00:05:16.000And I'm working my way up through Ed Parker's American Kempo System, and someday I'm going to J-Pan.
00:05:23.000And I'm going to learn from the guys who invented this stuff.
00:05:26.000Now I'm putting on a pork barrel accent to make it entertaining, but I did.
00:05:31.000And I started exactly like I did in Barham Boulevard, making rock and roll with the Mighty V, Mighty Van Halen in the late 70s, at the Oakwood Garden Apartments.
00:05:44.000In midtown Tokyo, I did not know a single person.
00:06:33.000Everybody speaks with a perfect accent, bigger words, nobody interrupts.
00:06:38.000And then you start going with me to the movies in the middle of the day on Tuesday in Tokyo at Ginza, and you're the only pale face in the room.
00:06:46.000It's all in Japanese, and it's the movies.
00:06:50.000Everybody's interrupting, everybody's shooting, screaming sirens, airplanes going by, and if you can begin to decipher even one character.
00:07:08.000There are a lot of schools, for example, Hebrew school.
00:07:12.000You always hear about Hebrew school before you go to Bar Mitzvah class.
00:07:16.000It's an ancient way of, wait a minute, you've got to develop the side of your brain by correlating designs with language, with meaning that may not actually be in English.
00:07:26.000Nobody's walking around speaking Hebrew after only four summers of whack.
00:07:31.000But you develop that side of your brain to where you start to have a capacity to learn in an accelerated way.
00:07:38.000So all your best musicians speak a couple languages.
00:07:40.000All your best politicians speak a couple.
00:09:14.000At this point in your career with jiu-jitsu and grappling, you have a vocabulary that starts to expand, expand by having to learn and challenge and challenge.
00:13:23.000And it's a little wistful, it's a little melancholy, and ain't life like that.
00:13:27.000And when you put them together, it doesn't sound like they do, but if I could, I'd sing both parts and it goes together, and you go, wow, bittersweet.
00:20:20.000It's, wow, sleeping in the back of Bobby Hatch's pickup truck parked out in the middle of nowhere in Joshua Tree, 1973. And you would be climbing even back then?
00:20:36.000We used webbing for our harnessing, and you used 11 millimeter kern mantle or manila rope, all right?
00:20:45.000And I remember the first time, it was in 1972, you'll see his name, John Ball, pioneering a lot of the routes in Joshua Tree.
00:20:57.000First time we watched him as seniors in high school go flagging, you know, where you pressure with, can you see this on the screen there, where you pull with your hands and push with your feet, go flagging all the way up the corner of a handball court at Muir High School in Pasadena,
00:21:15.000all the way up to the top, and then stood on the top and looked down, showing incredible.
00:23:42.000You all know what I'm talking about if you're from there.
00:23:44.000And we did it exactly like movie style, like Great Escape, where we fitted the fence back with duct tape, and we would drag our kayaks from Union Square West all the way down 14th Street.
00:23:57.000And you pick up your provisions for it.
00:24:43.000Mine, Karen, would always go north and wait around, because if the cops come, they would step out, we would see them or whatever, and we would sneak our boats through the hole in the fence.
00:27:32.000All that quarter mile of row, row, row, catch the wave, get out of the boat, you know, silently drag it all the way up the beach, okay, like you see in every war movie.
00:27:44.000Otherwise, it's about a $200 fine or something like this.
00:27:47.000And we would put the boats, big two-person kayaks, into the back of the plumbing truck and out of the top of it.
00:27:53.000Drive it back to the coffee shop on Union Square West.
00:28:11.000And you're going through polluted water in a fucking kayak, hiding from the cops.
00:28:16.000With a tape player and some sort of jury-rigged microphone system.
00:28:22.000Some of the best places that I went rock climbing were on walls of hotels in Europe.
00:28:29.000We'd toss a rope out the third floor of a bed and breakfast in San Sebastian, Spain, that's covered from flagstone with flagstone from the 1400s like that, and then yo-yo.
00:28:42.000You know, one guy would stay up, watch TV, and work the belay, and you'd climb up the outside, you know.
00:31:09.000And everybody, my sisters and stuff, started saying, but this is a time when you think you can catch that shit from breathing it, popping, whatever.
00:31:38.000And in case somebody comes at us, you handle it.
00:31:44.000Oh, I had a mentor named Keisha who had to pile her dreadlocks up so high that it was as long as from her shoulders to the top of her head, her haircut.
00:31:55.000It was like she put her hat up on top and Keisha walked in that door first, homie.
00:33:55.000I'm going to go out there and I'm going to actually do it.
00:33:59.000I... Okay, sometimes when I go for a walk in the city, my plan is to just follow where the sun is beaming.
00:34:07.000I get to an intersection, the sun is on that far corner.
00:34:10.000I'll cross over to that, and then I'll look down the block and see where the sun is, and I'll walk down the block and get into that part of the sun.
00:36:44.000And I, you know, in between playing and whatever.
00:36:49.000And again, a big shout out to all my teachers and mentors.
00:36:51.000Not a day goes by, I don't think about it, and not a day goes by that I don't use some skill, including that You know, that'll level your head a little bit.
00:37:09.000So you feel like for a guy like you, who is such a gigantic superstar, and you're just touring these huge arenas, and people are freaking out every time they see you, for you, it was maybe a good way to balance things out, too, because you're seeing people in a life or death situation,
00:37:25.000in dire straits, when they're unhealthy, and they need help, and you're out there in the down and dirty, in the nitty gritty, like, Like you said, trucks breaking down, picking people up out of the bathtubs.
00:37:37.000Well, a lot of what you just described is the first response team.
00:39:57.000And you start paying people what they're worth.
00:40:01.000And start paying people according to what your expectations, then a lot of things, I don't go political, they're nonsense like Charlottesville and what's happening in a lot of areas around these states.
00:40:41.000I said, because I now can see that there are neighborhoods where everybody is I know of neighborhoods where everybody's a liar, a cheat, a cripple, and if they're not, they're covering for somebody.
00:40:53.000And she said, what neighborhood is that?
00:40:55.000I said, the legal community in Beverly Hills.
00:43:12.000I still take lessons playing acoustic guitar.
00:43:17.000And on Sunday nights, audition night, You would sign up for audition at the Ice House.
00:43:24.000At 6.30, they'd open the window, and you would sign up.
00:43:28.000So I'd take my dinner break and drive my Opal Cadet station wagon up to the Ice House, get there at about 6.15, wait, they'd pop the window, sign up so that I would be one of the first three to audition after the last act on Sunday night,
00:43:47.000which would happen right around 10 o'clock.
00:43:50.000If you weren't one of the first three during audition night, nobody was there and they shut it down.
00:43:56.000And I would sign up and go back to work.
00:43:58.000And then come, you know, drive myself back, change out of my hospital stuff, you know, put on the right clothes, put on my jeans or whatever.
00:44:09.000And I auditioned there probably 15 times.
00:48:29.000I mean, we used to do the Van Halen logo on our notebooks in high school, along with the Rolling Stones, like the mouth and, you know, all the Kiss logo.
00:48:39.000When it switched over to Sammy Hagar, it became a different thing.
00:49:44.000No, it's all right there in the lyrics.
00:49:46.000Even using what are considered classic music parlor tricks, taking a very sad lyric and positioning it against a very happy piece of music.
00:51:22.000Well, that's a great way to look at what you were talking about with the West Side Story analogy, because it kind of went on, but it kind of didn't.
00:51:31.000It's like if you took West Side Story and then you changed the story.
00:51:34.000You can't change the story, but you can change the voices.
00:51:37.000Yeah, but it would be a different story.
00:51:41.000Like, the Van Halen story became a different story.
00:53:39.000So it's a universal sound, and if you even get close to it, It is part of every prom, every wedding, every going in and coming out party, okay?
00:53:52.000If you're going into the army, that's the last song the band's going to play.
00:55:47.000You think of who that is in the neighborhood and the vibe and the mood before perhaps you even think of a specific song.
00:55:57.000As soon as, you know, well, I know his hits, I know his songs, but it was the same thing that the fellas in The Grateful Dead who said, they're identifying that vibe.
00:56:08.000It's what's more important, the jokes or the person?
01:00:14.000And this kind of speaks to what we were discussing earlier in that a lot of my colleagues are having a great time making music and they celebrate and it's the word fun.
01:00:59.000And there just may be a switch in front of 120 people, all of them colleagues, all right?
01:01:05.000We learned from in music school, you know, the racy stuff was big band, all right?
01:01:12.000If you're, in terms of, you know, we played rock and roll in parallel with But Big Band, it's got a square vibe to it because it wound up in elevators and restaurants and whatever.
01:01:24.000But they had cutting contests, and there was nothing more cutting than Benny Goodman versus Chick Web Big Band at Roseland Ballroom.
01:05:10.000Unless you're a prodigy, and if you bungle that in typing, it's tragedy very easily.
01:05:17.000Yeah, prodigies and tragedies often go hand in hand.
01:05:20.000There's something about people that get things very easily that for whatever reason it slips through their fingers more quickly as well.
01:05:26.000When my sister, my dad was an eye surgeon, did well, and when my sisters wanted to go to college, he said, I think that's a great idea and made her pay for it.
01:07:13.000I always sought to make those rehearsals and whatever as memorable as possible because you can do a whole lot more at getting ready than you are throwing the punch.
01:12:14.000A couple of bike gangs went at it, and there was a scrap, and when everybody cleared out, there was a fella right in the middle of the floor.
01:12:42.000I remember sitting in that ballroom at four in the morning in the days when we carried our own equipment and stuff and thinking of all the people who'd been in there and everybody who'd performed there and so forth and dozens and dozens of places, you know, that were all a little bit different.
01:12:59.000And our thing was that we could play anywhere.
01:15:46.000If you looked at the amount of human beings that have had the kind of impact that you've had, it's the tiniest, tiniest fraction of a percent, like the amount of human beings that can relate to your personal life experiences.
01:15:58.000I'll paraphrase the James Brown movie.
01:16:20.000There's a little bit, whenever you see videos today, doesn't matter if it's hip-hop, doesn't matter if it's rock and roll, doesn't matter if it's classic or pit-ball.
01:17:17.000What's interesting about music that's different than anything else, too, is it brings you back to the moment where you heard it or when it was significant to you or where, you know, like if I hear Dance the Night Away, if I'm in my car and Dance the Night Away comes on, it's just like, God, you get goosebumps.
01:18:31.000Books will, if you used a paperback and you open it up and the pages are still dried from the vacation sun.
01:18:39.000You know, you were reading it at the beach and the salt there made the pages kind of old and dry and crackly and some sand comes out and you get the memory.
01:20:37.000Instead of the requisite two and a half, three years it takes for most acts, we spent five and a half years working the clubs and the bars and everything like that.
01:20:46.000So, you know, we came in with scars and stars.
01:20:55.000We'd done the state fair circuit like that.
01:21:21.000They're getting that $10,000 and then ultimately that $30,000 an hour mark.
01:21:27.000Yeah, the Beatles, I think it's Malcolm Gladwell's book where he's talking about the Beatles and when they came up, when they were performing in Germany and they were doing these shows where they were doing multiple sets a night every night of the week and that this is really what made them so good is this constant performing and that they were doing it so much and so often that they just became this smoothly oiled machine.
01:21:52.000If you have a team that you're working together Again, this is another kind of thing I learned along the way.
01:22:03.00040 hours a week is about your minimum if there's a team, like we're a rugby team or a SWAT team or an emergency room, kind of a C-block, kind of, you know,
01:22:19.000intensive, like that, inner-city intensive.
01:22:21.000We call it Vietnam sometimes, like that.
01:22:24.00040 hours a week is about your minimum that you need to train together in order to be going without looking at each other.
01:22:32.000When the lights go out, you don't lose velocity, so to speak.
01:22:40.000Ultimately, you'll start to look like each other.
01:23:56.000And remember, always treat the weakest one as your best friend because there's somebody else in the gang who thinks you're the weakest one.
01:24:03.000And that's what you learn, you know, as you go.
01:24:06.000What are you going to learn from working the clubs and the bars and stuff?
01:25:19.000A number of ways, but a mistake that a lot of young writers in my department, the lyrics, make is that they think of it as secondary.
01:25:30.000They wait for the music or the track first, and then you'll walk into a studio and hope that the hand of God will descend and grace you with amazing epiphanies.
01:31:29.000He pulled out a bottle of sake and two little cups.
01:31:35.000Became one of my best friends in Tokyo.
01:31:39.000Shit, first six months, I might have got seven words.
01:31:45.000Well, for a guy like that, in this day and age, it must be insanely difficult to get someone to have that sort of appreciation for commitment.
01:31:56.000You learn that stuff in grade school, and it's sort of like music lessons, okay?
01:32:01.000Painting and calligraphy is as well known as perhaps piano lessons.
01:32:05.000What were you thinking while you were doing all this, while you're learning this and spending months and months?
01:32:10.000I focus on specifically that, knowing that at the end of the term, I'm going to be a little, I don't know, I'm sharpening things a little bit, and when I'm called upon, even to have a discussion like this.
01:32:24.000I can bring a little contribution to it.
01:32:28.000It can be more entertaining for all of you listening to this.
01:32:34.000That's an amazing recognition that you have, though, that you realized while you were doing this that even though consciously all you're doing is doing calligraphy, you're working on other parts of your mind.
01:32:43.000Oh, I knew I was never going to paint for shit.
01:35:52.000Well, the need is like when Al Honnold goes climbing, he's going to put on some sunblock and he doesn't want to touch that shit for another four hours.
01:38:32.000When you're in your 20s, there's an aha moment.
01:38:35.000When you're my age, there's more than one.
01:38:40.000And that's when we went, aha, again, third time today, and began to expand.
01:38:45.000Laugh to Win makes ink, the original, and we have 60 other products coming up.
01:38:51.000All of it developed for people who live in vans like Alex Arnold, folks who live in transit at hotels, people who live urban camping is what we do, especially me and my tour bus.
01:39:06.000Everything I do is in the disco submarine.
01:39:09.000We travel, and you've got to be familiar everywhere.
01:39:18.000Today, we travel the entire world with impunity.
01:39:21.000You go to South America, you go to Europe, and something as simple when you go to Japan, you're really going to go find dental floss on your own?
01:39:54.000Every container has to be able to be sat on in a third-world airport.
01:39:59.000You've got to be able to Stevie Wonder it in your backpack.
01:40:03.000It's an insensitive illusion analogy, but every one of our containers is such that you can stick your hand in the bag while you're driving and find it.
01:43:26.000You're going to make all the mistakes, too.
01:43:28.000You're going to go out, and you're going to try and find cheap shit moisturizers that you're going to put on there, and you're going to smear it all over yourself, and it's going to look like that scene from something about Mary when she puts that shit around.
01:43:43.000And everybody's going to think, what's that shit all over Bobby's arm?
01:51:08.000Especially now, if you go back and look at some of her older bits, and especially if you looked at it written down as opposed to her saying it, we're in such an overwhelmingly sensitive time when it comes to subject matter that, yeah, that would be a big hurdle for her now.
01:51:24.000It made such an impact the first time I ever saw her do it.
01:51:26.000And this is a tradition that goes all the way back.
01:51:28.000Back during Lincoln, there was a fellow who wrote the NASB letters where he pretended to be a Southern racist and making fun of Southern racism.
01:51:38.000By pretending to be, Lincoln kept the articles clipped from the newspaper in his drawer so he could read them occasionally and laugh during the Civil War.
01:51:48.000You know, this is a tradition of acting out the character that you are about to execute.
01:52:04.000They don't care whether or not you're pretending.
01:52:06.000They see you have said something or there's something written that shows that you said something that they feel is in violation and so they want to go after it.
01:52:58.000All these things are trending in a very, very clear and obvious direction.
01:53:01.000And I think when you have coddled minds and you have more safety, people start running around looking for things to be upset at.
01:53:09.000And also a lot of young people that are very idealistic think they're going to change the world.
01:53:14.000And one of the ways they're going to change the world is by policing language and policing the way people talk about things and discuss things.
01:53:20.000And so stand-up comedy, which is, you know, you say a lot of things you don't really mean because they're funny.
01:53:25.000You know, that's the whole point behind it.
01:53:27.000And so it's ripe as far as a target for that kind of recreational outrage.
01:53:33.000The musical equivalent, perhaps, is really shitty songs written about important subjects.
01:55:36.000Yeah, I saw him at his major, major prime there.
01:55:39.000So I'm very curious as to, well, stagecraft is one thing, but what Freddie was and what he brought was way more than what you saw on stage.
01:57:01.000What we're very used to, even in country.
01:57:05.000I had a very famous black producer, African American producer, say to me, David Lee, do you know what it means to be a black man in the United States today?
01:59:23.000And when you run out of conversation at a beer-soaked frat party, high school, whatever, which is in about two sentences, you either quote your favorite movies.
01:59:35.000That's how you would converse as guys.
01:59:37.000Hey, you know that scene where he fucking blows them away?
02:03:44.000Stay at the Marriott all the way near whatever at Universal, and you can just work from sushi bar to dispensary, from sushi bar to dispensary.
02:04:54.000You have to be able to put out material.
02:04:57.000Because most of us are doing Netflix specials now, and most of us seem to be on a schedule of doing one every couple of years.
02:05:04.000So you have to be able to turn over an hour every couple of years, and then take that hour and hammer that motherfucker down to a samurai sword.
02:05:17.000You have to have it, and then you have to know when to release it, which is one of the things that I ask, like, how do you know when you're writing a song like Running with the Devil?
02:05:57.000You hit that mine, and you're like, There's so much here, and there's so many also branching off little rivers from this mine, this one initial mine.
02:06:15.000You know, I'm a giant fan of Leonard Skinner.
02:06:17.000And one of the things that I always thought was crazy about Skinner was their riffs.
02:06:21.000When they would do guitar riffs, it was the same riff.
02:06:25.000When they would do a solo, their solos were, like, orchestrated.
02:06:29.000Like, they don't get enough credit for bringing...
02:06:34.000Dynamic musical artists as well as these southern dudes that were just drinking and singing about whiskey and getting away from women like they're fat ugly dudes and most their songs about getting away from women like I gotta go I gotta be free I'm moving on call me the breeze it was so like I gotta get the fuck out of here before you lock me down that was a big part of their music but when you see like Like some of their,
02:07:20.000When we moved to more channels in recording, when Leonard Skinner recorded all their early stuff as 8-track, and then you had to double up early Van Halen, same thing.
02:07:30.000You had to compile your tracks or whatever.
02:07:33.000You had to really walk in with your solo written, okay, and play, and you would work it until it really had a thing, and then crescendos.
02:07:56.000And then when it's time to mix, they'll put a little of track two and a little of track six and start moving those channels in a way that you would never think To play the guitar.
02:08:09.000For example, Ed started doing that on a couple of tracks.
02:08:14.000Original solos, running with the devil.
02:09:08.000That Wabasabi approached to making solos.
02:09:13.000So it was a very oblique or unique kind of way of creating a solo.
02:09:19.000It was utilizing the digital future, multi-tracking, and improvising.
02:09:26.000As opposed to, I'm going to sit down and I'm going to create something like a book.
02:09:32.000Here's the beginning, here's the scene, here are the characters, here's the conflict.
02:09:37.000Instead, it's, let's just mix that all up together in interesting ways.
02:09:41.000In literary, Burroughs came up with, Bill Burroughs many, many years ago, came up with the idea of writing a book, then clipping the pages into pieces, putting them all in a hat, then pull the pieces out one by one.
02:09:56.000This is piece number one, this is piece number two, piece number three.
02:09:59.000And that's the way you actually remember a story.
02:10:53.000He's running across the top of a train, because they started, as opposed to, here's the field, horse walks onto the field, I see the cabin...
02:11:04.000What I'm getting from this in regards to song making, in particular the way Eddie and you did it, was there's no shortcuts.
02:14:43.000The point at the top gets a different kind of stone in the middle of the sword, etc., It's amazing.
02:14:51.000Japanese culture, and especially when you look into the ancient samurai culture, Book of Five Rings is one of my greatest all-time books.
02:15:00.000I've read it dozens of times in my life.
02:15:03.000But to put yourself in the mindset of someone with such a singular vision, to become a great samurai, he needed to become a No, just like your kids.
02:15:37.000This is a liberal arts education as seen through the eyes of somebody in the 1500s.
02:15:42.000It's just I'm so fascinated with Japanese culture because so many things came from that one small island.
02:15:48.000I mean, in terms of, like, martial arts contributions, I mean, it is probably...
02:15:54.000There's a bunch of contributors, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Chinese Kung Fu and Western boxing, but goddamn, you look at the contributions of Japan.
02:18:53.0002012 was the first hunting trip I went on.
02:18:56.000My good friend Steve Rinella took me on a trip on his television show Meat Eater and then I became obsessed.
02:19:01.000Well, I was trying to figure out what I was doing because I had seen a bunch of factory farming videos and I was like, okay, I'm either going to become a vegetarian or I'm going to become a hunter.
02:22:11.000And with Alex Honnold, I mean, the guy lives out of his van because he wants to live out of his van because all he wants to do is just drive around to different mountains and climb them.
02:22:39.000If you talk to surfers, there's something...
02:22:42.000There's a weird, corny way to put it, but I haven't talked to all of them, obviously, but a lot of high-level surfers like Kelly Slater or my good friend Shane Dorian, they're spiritual in some strange way.
02:26:38.000I would routinely make a two-hour trip to my art lessons from where I lived all the way downtown into Ebisu and all the way back like that.
02:26:47.000When you drive around today as opposed to in the old days before cell phones, do you notice a difference with people paying attention?
02:26:55.000I know that getting off the line could take a week depending You can see, you know, the light changes and counting on how long it takes is everybody's got to sign off their phone, turn off the computer, do as or whatever.
02:27:12.000By and large, what I have noticed is that when people are watching you, they no longer have their hands in their pockets and pretend to be whistling.
02:27:24.000Now you pretend to stare into your cell phone.
02:27:45.000I walk into a coffee shop or a restaurant or even a club, which is, essentially, a social experience, and everybody is staring into their cell phones at different banquets and different whatever.
02:28:02.000More often than not, I'm the only one who's actually present.
02:32:59.000One of my closest colleagues that I work with two and three nights a week, Colin Smith, has written 17 books on how to run Adobe Photoshop.
02:33:10.000We've been working on an art project together for quite some time.
02:36:29.000During the Cold War, right around 1965-66, it became a legal imperative that all radio stations, regular ones, had to operate an FM band station.
02:37:03.000Because, you know, in case there's a national emergency.
02:37:06.000You were not allowed to take your normal programming, though, from KFWB and put it on your sister station on FM. Had to be different programming.
02:42:15.000It's Kenny Chesney going, and I say it with respect, you know.
02:42:20.000Hi, this is Kenny, and I was just walking down here in Panama City, and my phone went dead.
02:42:25.000No, I walked inside, and I asked these good fellas right here at the Joe Rogan Barbecue to fire it up, if I could just sort of charge it up, and they said, hell yeah.
02:42:34.000So I just want to tell you, y'all come down to Rogan Barbecue, and see, you can always find us right here on No Shoes Radio.
02:48:19.000Their expectations was the funny, the funny, interview the guests, have pop...
02:48:26.000Culture funny guests right in the subject matter just as we've touched on subjects here that are Hilarious and subjects are pretty dense Yeah, as I call it, you know, it's gonna detonate halfway down the turnpike.
02:48:40.000That's gonna go away real quick Do you have you thought about doing that now?
02:48:43.000Like what if Apple came to you or one of these streaming services came to you and wanted to do something like that?
02:48:48.000They always arrive with expectations and And the expectations, just as we discussed the three phases of Anna Nicole Smith and Elvis, which Dave are you referring to?
02:49:38.000You didn't hire Mike Fitzgerald and Ken Buchanan or whoever the fuck the other people are that work in the office that also want the jizz and the soup.