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00:03:24.000Singer who was doing that and like he just put a song out a week his name was Russ and I was like alright that's he's a worker I can I can at least control that I can outwork somebody so I'll do that and I put the joke out for a week and like the joke started to go and like someone would go viral and I was like yo this is crazy and People are coming out to shows and then my YouTube guy hits me.
00:03:43.000He goes you know something weird is happening.
00:03:44.000I go what's up and he goes When people watch a clip They'll watch for two hours I go, what do you mean?
00:03:52.000Like, they'll just get lost in a wormhole.
00:03:54.000And I go, so wait a minute, so people aren't watching an hour of stand-up?
00:04:00.000On the networks, because it's too long.
00:04:02.000But they're watching two hours of mine.
00:04:04.000I'm like, why the fuck would that happen?
00:04:07.000And we figured out that it was, you made the choice.
00:04:11.000When you're in control of your destiny, right?
00:04:14.000You'll invest as much time as you want.
00:04:16.000It's hitting snooze on the alarm clock.
00:04:18.000It's like, I'll take another eight minutes.
00:06:46.000So it's not the situation where you have to go, okay, maybe I hit 37 minutes in this bit that I love.
00:06:52.000No, you're going to get that bit right away, and then you're going to go back to the beginning and go, okay, I'm going to watch this all the way through.
00:07:04.000Musicians put out a single for a reason.
00:07:06.000Yeah, I kind of, I like that if you're thinking about marketing.
00:07:11.000Yes, complete, complete, like, you and I are in way different places with stand-up, right?
00:07:15.000Like, you're one of the most famous people in the world, right?
00:07:18.000So you don't need to find new people to see you.
00:07:21.000People are going to watch your stand-up because they're like, alright, I have an intimate relationship with this guy, I listen to him eight hours a week, and I just want to see his stand-up, right?
00:09:52.000You know how, like, every rich person goes, money doesn't make you happy, and every poor person is like, man, when I'm rich, I'm going to be happy?
00:12:08.000Imagine you're one of these like insurance guys that has to like tell people they can't get their bills paid from their car accident because it was their fault.
00:12:15.000Or imagine if you're like one of those big tobacco guys.
00:12:18.000You're driving around at a Rolls Royce knowing that someone's on an iron lung somewhere.
00:12:43.000He's like, because people used to always make the boxing analogy and I hated that because I used to box a little bit and I never at all felt that it was similar.
00:12:53.000I've never heard a boxer go, yeah, this is just like stand-up.
00:12:56.000It is like a martial art in that the truth is what works.
00:13:03.000Because in martial arts, particularly in martial arts, not just in boxing, but boxing is a martial art, but the only stuff that works is the stuff that works.
00:13:14.000And if you hit a guy and he goes unconscious, it doesn't matter.
00:13:16.000One of the things that I used to like about fighting was that everybody could hate me, and I didn't care.
00:13:21.000I didn't care because when I got in there, I'm like, I knew that I was going to fuck that guy up.
00:13:27.000It doesn't matter what his friends think.
00:13:29.000It doesn't matter how loud his parents cheer.
00:13:31.000I'm going to kick that dude in his head and I'm going to separate him from his consciousness.
00:16:59.000I want it to put his nose up against my nose, and then I want to skewer it.
00:17:04.000But before I skewer it, I want to fucking do that shit where I click my heels, and I do the little cape, and I want to entertain the fuck out of the crowd with this dangerous...
00:18:25.000What you're doing is you're going out there, you're expressing yourself, and the great thing about being turned down by all these platforms is they can't censor you.
00:18:33.000They're not going to tell you, hey, Andrew, we really like you, but...
00:19:41.000Well, it's bad because that's how the soldiers used to talk about him and the people used to talk about him during World War II when they were at war with him.
00:20:18.000There was a trans chick that got upset at the joke, and she was like...
00:20:22.000You know, she basically said to me, she's like, you probably wouldn't like it too if as you were walking home at night someone called you tranny and then threw a bottle at you.
00:20:30.000And I was like, I don't respond to the negative comments, but all I'm thinking is if you were walking home at night and someone said transgender and then threw a bottle at you...
00:25:55.000It's like, oh, I can't do that type of comedy, so I'm going to make that comedy radioactive so that this is the only type of comedy that's allowed.
00:26:51.000The second I had an opinion that went against the grain, immediately I'm labeled as something that they don't even have to have a dialogue with.
00:27:52.000But once you're in a good place, everything feels good.
00:27:56.000Say if you're in a good relationship and you have a good woman in your life and you're happy and everything's going well, then you see a lot of things for what they are.
00:28:06.000Versus if you're in the hunt, you're trying to get people to love you.
00:28:12.000I mean, this is a weird segue to it, but I've never did a lot of drugs, but I tried Molly at Burning Man, and it was the first time that I experienced, maybe outside of comedy, but the first time I experienced having extra love.
00:28:28.000So instead of operating on a deficit and like trying to make you laugh so I filled a void or like trying to say something interesting so I filled a void, I had extra.
00:28:36.000And what I did with the extra without even realizing it is I called my closest friends and my parents and I just told them how special they were.
00:28:44.000Now, I didn't realize that until years later that that's what you do with excess.
00:31:33.000If you're a fan of that kind of fucking vicious, awful comedy, it's very difficult to get anymore because people don't roast each other anymore.
00:34:28.000We can get to that in a little bit, but once you realize the value you get from giving… As long as it's the right person, then you just can't wait.
00:34:37.000Yeah, it's a trick to think that you should keep it all to yourself, because when you keep it all to yourself, you feel like shit.
00:36:59.000Like, you know, some child slaves make the iPhone and, you know, we're like, I just go, you can only really be connected to what's in your world, direct world.
00:38:55.000Make all these people who want to buy iPhones and you want to have your iPhone built by some Asian slave, how about you work for a year in a factory?
00:39:14.000Because they're the only people who care about the environment, the only people who care about animals, the only people who build wells in Africa.
00:39:20.000No, my friend Justin Wren builds wells in the Congo.
00:42:24.000These hardcore, perceivably hardcore feminist chicks, they'll hear my comedy, which could be the opposite of that, and they're in the DMs saying, I don't know why I'm here.
00:44:33.000At least if you're cute and your boss is disgusting and he's a fucking asshole, you could flirt with him a little bit and you could maybe get him to like you more.
00:44:53.000One of the things that I love more than anything is when I talk to women and they'll do this thing where they look around to make sure no one's looking, no one's around, and I go, look, I would never say this publicly, but some bitches are fucking crazy.
00:45:06.000That's what we do with, like, racist shit.
00:45:09.000Didn't Burr have that bit about like, you look around and then you slide in?
00:45:16.000Well, women feel like they've got momentum in this little war of ideas with the Me Too movement and Bill Cosby getting arrested and R. Kelly getting arrested and Harvey Weinstein.
00:45:29.000In my opinion, and I bet you think this too, these are good things.
00:45:55.000Imagine if you were married and Harvey Weinstein tried to fuck your wife and she went in on an audition and you knew that there was all these security guards and all these fucking levels before you got to him and your wife got into that level and he was treating her like shit and being mean to her and telling her if you want to work in this town,
00:47:33.000Well, I think the issue with these things is like we know we're going to have Weinsteins, but the people that protected Weinstein, like the second you complain about a guy for groping or doing something crazy, right?
00:48:13.000They're not worse because they're not doing it, but they're so bad because they stripped the person who was assaulted from...
00:48:23.000Not only equality, but they stripped her from life in a way.
00:48:27.000They made that person go, oh shit, life isn't fair and I don't have a shot.
00:48:33.000Do you know the expression diffusion of responsibility?
00:48:36.000It comes when there's large groups of people that watch something and feel like someone's going to step in.
00:48:41.000It's like that lady, Genovese's or something.
00:48:44.000Remember that there was some woman who was getting raped in Queens and she was screaming for like 40 minutes and there was all these neighbors around like, yeah, I heard it, but I thought Ted was on it.
00:49:00.000Well, it's just how corporations work.
00:49:03.000So if you're working for a corporation, the corporation's dumping pollutants into the river, you feel like, well, it's not my responsibility.
00:49:12.000Somebody else is going to handle this.
00:49:15.000And I think if you're working in the Weinstein company and you knew Harvey was out there slinging dick, first of all, In their defense, you probably didn't know the specifics, right?
00:49:27.000Because it's like, oh, Harvey's a dog, he's always out there trying to fuck.
00:50:09.000I believe they're attracted to power, and they're so wildly insecure that they need to be looked at like a god.
00:50:16.000And children, when they look at you, somebody that they admire, something they truly look up to, etc., they can look at you in that godlike state.
00:50:24.000And so I don't think it's a physical thing.
00:50:27.000Like I was watching that abducted in plain sight.
00:50:29.000He gets whacked off by the dad, right?
00:51:11.000They have that thirst for power and they're going, who in my community has that amazing power where they're looking at him as this godlike figure?
00:51:21.000Oh, it was the priest at our Catholic Church.
00:51:44.000The vast majority of people who are abusers were abused themselves.
00:51:49.000And there's some horrible hijacking of the psychology of the person when you're a six-year-old boy and some grown man has cock in your ass.
00:52:00.000That it fucks with their head, especially if it happens a lot and it becomes a part of your life and the guy's nice to you as well and buys you things and does things for you.
00:52:10.000And then you get older and you, for whatever reason, perpetrate this same horror on other kids.
00:52:58.000I see Kanye as this guy who's just wildly insecure and he's trying to justify his coolness constantly by taking things that are not cool at all and making them cool within a community,
00:54:05.000All he cares is about proving that he's that dude and he takes the most uncool thing and puts it on his head and he's like, yo, I'm going to make MAGA cool.
00:54:15.000And that's when people are like, at least his community was like, nah, we're not going to play with that shit.
00:56:38.000I go, you better be nice because I go, if you keep fucking with gay people, they're going to do something and they're going to do something and you're not going to be able to take it back.
00:56:46.000Like, what if gay people decided to take over camo?
00:56:49.000And the bit was like, look what they did to the rainbow.
01:00:18.000But this is all from this energy that's inside of him.
01:00:21.000He figures out how to channel that energy and put it in good ways, but occasionally, it's also not a coincidence.
01:00:29.000That when Kanye was on stage, I think it was in San Jose, and he said that he didn't vote, but if he was going to vote, he would have voted for Trump, and the crowd went crazy, and they booed the shit out of him, and then he canceled his tour, and then he went to the Mental Health Institute.
01:00:43.000All that shit happened together because he felt the pain of this.
01:00:47.000Then his response to that was to double down.
01:00:49.000His response to that was to attribute qualities to Trump that he doesn't even really have.
01:04:02.000The interesting thing about the kicking aspect of it is when I would see guys learning how to box, the hook is a tough punch for people to get.
01:04:13.000It's something you almost have to pop.
01:04:15.000People try to throw it instead of let your body throw it.
01:07:24.000And Muay Thai, for whatever reason, I mean, you go to Muay Thai events and they're rabid and it's like a very deep community of people that really understand and appreciate the sport.
01:07:36.000They'll play the Thai music and they wear all the Mong Kong on their head.
01:07:54.000Yeah, because it's elbows and knees and a lot of clinch work and a lot of dumping where they trip you and slam you to the ground and they kick you on the way down too.
01:08:04.000They'll throw you into the ropes and if you're still on your way down, you get punted in the head.
01:09:46.000Yeah, but he's just about getting you to the ground and fucking you up.
01:09:50.000He just has such unbelievable confidence, and he should, he's undefeated, in his wrestling, that he just concentrates on absorbing whatever he can and grabbing you.
01:11:14.000But the same you could say about Stylebender.
01:11:17.000The thing about Stylebender is he's an elite kickboxer.
01:11:21.000He lost the glory middleweight title in a very controversial decision to Jason Willness, who was one of the elite of the elite, one of the best guys out there.
01:11:29.000So Stylebender competed at the highest level of one of the most difficult combat sports in the world.
01:11:35.000And in that world, he's known as a precision artist.
01:13:00.000Because the best wrestler can dictate where the fight takes place.
01:13:04.000The best wrestler can get a hold of a guy and drag him down like Khabib Nurmagomedov, who might be the best fighter in the world.
01:13:11.000He's the UFC lightweight champion, and what stands out about him is that he can get a hold of guys, and once he does, they can't do jack shit about it.
01:13:20.000He's not the best striker in the world, but he's good enough so you have to be scared of him on the feet, because he dropped Conor McGregor.
01:14:59.000Compared to a kick sport, I would say if we're standing, what, two, three feet away from each other in kickboxing, it's one and a half in boxing.
01:16:48.000Because the smaller people learn how to use leverage and technique, and they can't muscle things.
01:16:52.000Whereas if you're like a 250-pound gorilla, you're some big football player dude, and you're like, man, I want to learn some fucking jujitsu.
01:18:21.000Was gonna get off with the jab, or at least he knew Mosley thought that he was gonna get off with the jab.
01:18:25.000And there's a moment, even in the first round, I know he gets tagged with that overhand right, but there's a moment where Mosley pops the left jab, and Floyd sees it, steps back slightly, and then comes straight over at the right.
01:18:39.000In that moment, you could see Shane know that there's nothing he can do.
01:18:44.000Because Floyd has timed the jab, And countered it directly.
01:20:53.000Obviously, he's eating healthy food on top of that, but if he feels like fucking off and getting a Big Mac, he can do that, and there's no performance benefit or no penalty.
01:22:58.000But the thing is, you don't have to jump that much in MMA. And he can hit you in the face with a flying knee.
01:23:04.000But what he knows how to do and what he can do physically in terms of his wrestling and his ability to close the distance and smash guys and time people, he's an elite athlete.
01:23:15.000I mean, I think he could have done that.
01:23:17.000His two brothers play NFL. Here he is.
01:30:09.000Remember when he was abducted into the Hall of Fame?
01:30:13.000Bro, I thought you were about to tell me he was abducted in plain sight.
01:30:15.000And I was like, bro, if this guy fucks Jordan too, he is the GOAT. Do you remember when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame and he was talking about writers?
01:31:46.000Something about the best athletes, they all have, they have a fucking self-loathing, and they also have an ego, and they have this anger towards the competition.
01:31:59.000Like, if you beat them, they would say that if you beat Jordan at a game of pool, yeah, anything, fucking hate you for two months.
01:33:42.000I think if you truly love what you do, like if you love the creative aspect, and then you have high standards for yourself, then you can achieve both.
01:34:26.000He's like, there's these different phases in life.
01:34:28.000And none of them is better or worse than the other, but there's this vegetable phase where you're just going to work and then you're coming home.
01:37:08.000Stop making people think a little bit.
01:37:11.000Well, also, the thing about comedy is I've always said that if you can make someone laugh about something, you force them to think about it.
01:37:17.000If you're just on stage spouting your opinions, like one of the real problems that I have with a lot of what they're calling comedy, where they're just waiting for a Applause breaks when you say something.
01:38:07.000If you're a hardcore Republican Trump supporter and someone does a joke about Trump that makes you fucking laugh, you're like, God damn it, he got me.
01:39:10.000Like, for me, I remember for the show in the Comedy Store in LA when you walked in, like, that was crazy for me.
01:39:18.000Because, obviously, any comic, you're, you know, watching this show and you're seeing, and you're like, man, it would be so cool one day to be on Joe Rogan's podcast, right?
01:39:26.000And then, but it was nothing I would ever ask for.
01:41:51.000I'm taking a job making people eat animal dicks while I'm doing comics.
01:41:55.000The difference is, I'm still doing comedy, and these motherfuckers are just looking for some sort of gravy train to ride off into the sunset.
01:42:02.000If the show was good, people would watch it instead of these reality shows, and then it wouldn't exist anymore.
01:42:10.000But there were so many bad sitcoms that it opened the door to Real Housewives and all these other things, and the next thing you know...
01:46:09.000Now if I go to you and I'm like, okay, give me 200 million to make a movie about, it's this mob guy and he's kind of got like some anxiety...
01:46:17.000You're like, are you out of your fucking mind?
01:47:53.000All these podcasts that popped up, people realized, hey, we're not in competition with each other like Jay Leno and David Letterman were because everybody wanted the Tonight Show spot.
01:52:06.000Their thing was, we're going to make the artsiest shit, Hollywood's going to give us a Grammy or something like that, and then it will qualify our platform.
01:53:45.000And then you get to share it immediately on your Facebook feed.
01:53:48.000If I was Facebook, I'd be super careful about buying anything because I think the government's been thinking about breaking them up for a while.
01:53:55.000Elizabeth Warren is already talking about that.
01:53:57.000That's one of the parts of her platform in running for president is breaking up Apple, breaking up Facebook, breaking up Twitter.
01:54:05.000She wants to break up all these things she thinks are monopolies.
01:57:37.000You know, I like being around funny people, man.
01:57:41.000The thing about comics, especially the needy, annoying ones, in the early days, like early days of your career, they have to be the center of attention.
01:58:08.000If the best creation is you rant with him and you jump in together and you go back and forth like a game of tennis, then you do it that way.
01:58:14.000But you have to be able to feel the vibe.
01:58:16.000And then some people are not going to like it that way.
01:58:18.000They're going to want, why don't you let your guest talk?
02:01:14.000I wonder if he's chimpish in that he's potentially wasting his life being upset or miserable when he could be focusing on things that would give him joy.
02:01:33.000Is being so smart that you don't even try to just be happy and focus on your happiness?
02:01:39.000I don't necessarily think he's unhappy, but I do think that he puts himself into situations where the amount of stress that he absorbs is almost unfathomable.
02:01:49.000Like when he was trying to get the Tesla Model 3 production schedule ramped up, he was sleeping on the floor of the factory and working Literally working like 19, 20 hours a day.
02:05:25.000They wanted their lips to be, you know, there's like a symmetrical proportion that your face is supposed to fall into this Fibonacci sequence of numbers.
02:05:34.000Like, if you get a nose job, I look at you and I go, what's wrong with his nose?
02:07:14.000Like, if there was a way that a girl could lift weights at the gym and make her tits bigger, and she went and got fake tits, you wouldn't like them as much.
02:09:09.000The only problem with those gals is that there is a reality to certain levels of musculature that most likely they're only achieved by injecting male hormones.
02:09:21.000So the clits kind of get big or whatever?
02:15:58.000I think there's that too, but then there's also like, if a girl's in really good shape, one of the things that you admire is that that girl's got, she's got discipline and power.
02:16:09.000Like a girl's hitting the gym all the time and working out, that's a girl who gets things done.
02:16:13.000Like if you see a girl and she's lazy and her body is just like soft, doughy, she's like skinny fat, like, oh, you're going to complain a lot.
02:20:52.000That is Viking DNA. It's just the best DNA from the world.
02:20:55.000Thousands of years ago, guys like him would be on a boat with a fucking dragon on the front of the boat, and they'd have a sword, and they couldn't wait to jump off that fucking boat and start hacking people to bits.
02:27:19.000It's like you got to grow it into them.
02:27:21.000There's this- I feel like I tell this story every single time I'm talking on a podcast, but there's this great thing about how Nescafe broke into the Japanese market.
02:27:39.000And he goes, well, they don't know what the fuck coffee is over there.
02:27:42.000Okay, you're trying to be tea, you're not tea.
02:27:44.000So what you're going to do is you're going to make a cartoon, and you're going to spend a few million on that, and then you're going to make a candy based on a cartoon, and then that candy is going to be flavored as coffee.
02:28:50.000So it's like, if I want to make it okay, I got to do it outside.
02:28:55.000I have to go a little bit outside of the industry and make it okay.
02:28:59.000And the way they were thinking was, hey, let's get underneath and just fucking grow these ideas in.
02:29:04.000I feel like that's why we fight wars over ideas all the time, right?
02:29:07.000It's like people understand, oh shit, if people start believing in socialism or whatever the new thing they want us to be afraid of now, they believe in it and it sounds good enough, they'll want it.
02:29:16.000So we gotta nip this in the bud in Vietnam.
02:29:45.000Look, there's all sorts of positive aspects to most of the ideas that they push.
02:29:53.000There's positive aspects to trying to stop terrorism.
02:29:57.000There's positive aspects to trying to stop radical fundamentalists from taking over parts of the world and radicalizing segments of the population and making these terrorist cells and attacking cities and doing a lot of things that we know really do happen.
02:30:17.000There's a Geraldo Rivera segment on Fox News where Geraldo Rivera was talking to Soldiers who were guarding poppy fields and they were explaining that the US soldiers had to guard the fucking heroin because this is how they got these Afghani farmers to cooperate against the radical fundamentalists that were running these religious sects.
02:31:12.000Now the Marines and their success are, in a sense, a victim of their success because now the population is, you know, they have these opium fields and we are tolerating it.
02:31:23.000We are tolerating the cultivation of the opium because we know that if we were to destroy it now, the population would turn against the Marines and it would be a real...
02:31:32.000Let me introduce Lieutenant Colonel Brian Christmas.
02:31:34.000He's the commanding officer of the 3rd Battalion, 6th Marines.
02:31:38.000Really, a wonderful group of Marines here.
02:31:40.000Is this okay to play on YouTube, or is this going to be a problem?
02:32:37.000I mean, Sturgill Simpson wrote a bit about it, or wrote a song about it, and they played that song on Saturday Night Live, and I don't even think they knew what the fuck the song was about.
02:32:47.000I mean, he's up there playing a song about the government being involved in the heroin trade.
02:34:27.000Yeah, there's this big scandal up there in Canada because he was involved, you know, with this company, which is a Quebec company that paid like $36 million to bribe the Libyan government.
02:36:14.000Let's break up Facebook and da-da-da-da.
02:36:17.000Well, that's one of the reasons why, for hard-working people, the Republicans are so attractive, even though a lot of people, they fall into a lower-income community.
02:36:28.000They would think they would be looking to have big business succeed, but the message is that you roll up your sleeves and you get to work, and that you work hard.
02:36:39.000You don't get a free ride, and they like that.
02:36:41.000That's also one of the reasons why people...
02:36:45.000That are Republicans are more likely to be involved in churches and a lot of church-going organizations because that's where their community comes from and community support.
02:36:54.000Instead of getting community support from the government, they get community support from local churches.
02:37:50.000I don't know what's going on, but you are minuscule.
02:37:54.000And that's hard for people to take, man.
02:37:57.000But you think that's why they're really into pushing atheism?
02:37:59.000I think it's because the religion that they see is so offensively stupid.
02:38:05.000I mean, look, there was a funny thing that happened the other day where Pete Davidson did a joke on SNL about the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church demanded an apology.
02:38:19.000How about he made a joke about child molesting and you guys are the number one kid fucking organization in the world.
02:38:24.000How about stop worrying about jokes and paying attention to the fact that you basically run a kid fucking organization that also sells Jesus.
02:39:27.000Like, that was what the movies we watched coming up, like, that was the first thing that the badass or something like that did in the movie.
02:39:33.000Wake up, roll over, undo the pack, you know, whatever.
02:39:36.000It will be look at your phone's mentions.
02:40:59.000Like when I was in Vegas, I was in Vegas for this thing that my daughter was doing, so I took my youngest daughter to Circus Circus playing these carnival games.
02:41:17.000But I think there's value in learning that it sucks to lose, because that makes you reassess what you did, that the other person did better, and how do I beat them.
02:41:28.000It's like when we're talking about weed, about weed making you nervous and makes you paranoid.
02:42:11.000You just have been on this path longer and you haven't fallen off of it.
02:42:16.000You've figured out what you need to do to stay on that path.
02:42:19.000We know a lot of people that were on the path at one time in their career and then something happened and they lost their enthusiasm or their body wasn't as healthy or whatever the fuck happened and they dropped off.
02:44:04.000And solidifying perspectives and honing material and uncovering new layers and looking at it and reanalyzing it and stepping back and listening to it drunk and listening to it sober and smoking weed and going over it again and just spending time mashing the keys,
02:44:24.000spending time looking at the notes, all that.
02:44:54.000But my writing, in terms of my most prolific creation of things that I never thought of before, comes out writing with a keyboard, writing on a computer.
02:45:16.000So say if I was going to write a bit about Geraldo Rivera and the Poppy Seeds, I would smoke a joint, and I would sit down, and I would just go, Geraldo Rivera with his porn mustache, strolling around these train killers in Afghanistan, wearing his goofy-ass fucking tie.
02:45:33.000I wonder how those dudes think about Geraldo Rivera.
02:45:38.000Strutting around, puffing his chest out, hanging around.
02:45:41.000All these guys have been blowing people's brains out for the last six months, protecting America, while they're also simultaneously protecting heroin.
02:45:49.000Like, what the fuck kind of feeling is that?
02:45:50.000When your boy gets shot protecting a fucking heroin field, and it doesn't even make it into the paper, and then I'll just start going and going and going and going, and I might type out a few thousand words, and then when I go back, I might have two lines left.
02:47:33.000And then I got into this whole bit about the Kardashians becoming like these gargoyles and hovering over his bed and talking to him while he's sleeping.
02:47:50.000Yeah, that's something I would love for people to know.
02:47:55.000I do this show called Inside Jokes where I just get comics to come and we take our most divisive premises that don't work and we work it out together.
02:50:46.000It is, but when you see a guy like Andrew Zimmerman traveling around the world and doing that, or you see Anthony Bourdain or a lot of these people, you think, I want to be like that.
02:50:54.000Bourdain, the food was a lens for culture, though.
02:51:36.000Yeah, I don't know why the fuck they're leaving these things.
02:51:38.000But it's, you know, some people want a voice.
02:51:40.000But they got rid of it because they invested so much money in certain things that were getting down likes and I was like, alright, let's...
02:53:48.000He's a perfect example of it just being true.
02:53:50.000He'll show up Monday night at the Comedy Store in front of 13 people and he'll go on stage and he'll do a half an hour in front of 13 people.
02:53:59.000And he'll drink, and he'll smoke cigarettes, and he'll talk shit, and laugh at his own jokes, and everybody has one of the most magical experiences as an audience member you could ever have.
02:54:09.000I was a young comic in New York, and there was a place called the Comedy Village, which was the Boston.
02:56:58.000How do you find that the more successful you get when you have people that are coming to see you no matter what, where do we get our strength training?
02:57:58.000I wonder if this comes from having a fighting background because the one thing about fighting is if you have a hole in your game, it's exposed in the most brutal way.
02:59:15.000I like doing it because I always benefit from it.
02:59:18.000I feel like I come back from those little paranoid journeys like a little bit of a better person.
02:59:24.000And I think it's been responsible, along with other psychedelics and becoming a father, all those things, maybe a better person, maybe a nicer person, maybe more compassionate, more understanding, more friendly.
02:59:36.000Yeah, more understanding is the big one.
03:00:01.000Part of the problem is, and we've all seen this, when comics become really successful, they work to their own crowd and they don't do sets.
03:01:44.000He might not be the best writer, he might not have the most consistently crafted hours, but in terms of the highest highs, that motherfucker breaks through the magnetosphere and he wiggles out into the outer atmosphere of space like no one.
03:04:42.000When I come on stage, I'm fucking guns blazing, man.
03:04:46.000If you go on after Joey Diaz, when he hits that crescendo, you better be ready.
03:04:51.000When you came into the store, I remember I was about to ask you something, and you were on the wall, and then you just folded in half and touched your toes.
03:04:59.000And I was like, what the fuck is going on?
03:06:55.000I knew you started there, but I didn't know if you were from the city or- Well, I was born in New Jersey, but I lived all throughout my high school years and everything.
03:08:01.000They created a monster dynamic where all these young guys were coming up following these killers, and I was very fortunate to be one of those guys.
03:08:10.000And that's why I wanted to talk to Steve and tell him that on the show.
03:08:35.000I feel like one of the toughest things about the alternative scenes, and I'm not knocking necessarily the comedy, but...
03:08:42.000The litmus test for murdering is different.
03:08:45.000When I was coming up in New York and I had to follow, rest in peace, Mike DiStefano, Greer Barnes, guys that maybe are not household names.