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00:03:59.000Literally, he thought I was talking about Adderall, and then he explained to me, like, when you're in a club and you want to stay up and you want to stay, like, energized, you take Adderall.
00:04:08.000But I don't drink, so I can stay up until 3, 4 o'clock in the morning and be fine.
00:04:13.000What's fascinating about Adderall is what they've essentially done is taken an amphetamine and made it so that if you prescribe it for a condition, right, like they give it to people who have...
00:05:31.000I think the idea is that it's proof that their system is wired wrong, which is why when you give them that speed, they can center out and mellow out.
00:05:39.000My friend's a doctor, and I was talking to him, and I used to just pop by to say what's up, and he goes, hey man, just to let you know, the more you go to a doctor, the faster you'll die.
00:08:19.000You just don't want to be operating on people that are on anesthesia with fucking headlamps on and shit and rubber gloves covered with blood.
00:08:29.000That would be the worst, having somebody die while you're working on them, and then you've got to go tell their family, hey, man, sorry, my bad.
00:09:07.000That's why, please, folks, if you're listening to me and you want to punch somebody and knock them out, please don't do it.
00:09:13.000Just go to a gym, get your frustrations out, don't fight on the street.
00:09:16.000You could kill somebody or you can get killed, even accidentally.
00:09:20.000Even if you really don't hate the guy that much, you punch him in the face, they go unconscious, their head hits the ground, people die all the time.
00:09:29.000I mean, I've told the story about when Kevin James used to work as a bouncer in Long Island, a guy that he was working with punched a guy and killed him.
00:12:11.000And my friend, same friend that was on the curb, we were three-wheeling, and where I grew up, there was a bunch of ditches.
00:12:18.000So we were going, and he thought he could go down in the ditch and come up the other side, but I think he forgot that it's flat on the bottom of real ditches.
00:12:27.000So literally, we're going, and We hit the bottom and I flew up and literally half my face was like just wrecked.
00:12:34.000I was in the hospital and we didn't have helmets at that time.
00:15:03.000Because if you say you love you, if you say I love you to someone, either they love you back and it feels great, or they don't and you don't hang out with them anymore.
00:15:16.000Well, I reserve it for people that I love.
00:17:31.000I really do believe, and I've been believing this more and more lately, though, that our understanding of what our memory is is very limited.
00:17:39.000And that the reason why people are scared of things, some things, is probably because there's some sort of genetic memory of someone that they knew...
00:19:38.000No, I think it's in his DNA. Okay, yeah, I get that.
00:19:42.000But what is the DNA? Like, doesn't your DNA carry some traces of information onto your own children?
00:19:48.000What I notice in my children is they share certain weird traits that I have, like obsessive-compulsive traits that I don't think they see, because I don't really bring that home.
00:20:00.000Especially the workout stuff and some things that I really get kind of psychotic about, martial arts stuff.
00:20:06.000My middle daughter has that in a crazy way.
00:20:10.000And I'm like, oh, okay, this is me if I was a girl.
00:20:13.000Like if I was a little girl, this is me.
00:23:18.000It was a celebrity fear factor, and there was a young lady who was scared to eat a roach, and she was going to get eliminated from the show, and so I said, listen, I'll make you a deal.
00:27:03.000And so what we had was certain interns that would volunteer for it, and they would get like an extra hundred and something dollars.
00:27:10.000And I would always give them money too.
00:27:11.000I would always give them a couple hundred bucks on top of it.
00:27:13.000But they would eat whatever the fuck it was, and then they would determine, all right, well, Mike usually can put it down like no one.
00:27:23.000And if he could only get through three, and then some other producer would come in and go, fuck this, we're being pussies, make them eat four.
00:31:30.000No, because how it happened, I was in Austin, Texas, and there was an ad in the paper that goes, hey, have you ever done anything adventurous?
00:31:37.000And I was like, no, let me go in for this cast.
00:31:39.000I was a radio DJ out there at this radio station.
00:31:43.000So I go in, and then Mikey, they called him the chimp, he was the casting person.
00:32:52.000It's easy in comparison to stand up in some ways, but it's not like I disrespect the kind of shit that Daniel Day- Oh, Day-Lewis and Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:34:34.000First of all, if they're coming here, that means their technology is far, way more advanced than ours.
00:34:40.000So why would they care if people saw them?
00:34:43.000They would show up, if I was an alien and I was that far ahead of us, I would lay in that bitch right in the middle of Times Square and be like, what?
00:35:31.000Whenever any civilization has ever encountered a civilization far superior to them, The results have always been catastrophic, every single time.
00:35:43.000Every time Europeans have invaded North America, every time the Spanish visited the Mexicans, every time this has happened, it's been a disaster, and this is human beings.
00:35:54.000If there was something that came down here from another planet and was so unbelievably sophisticated that it could travel through vast distances in space and had insurmountable, impossible technology, We would look to it for all of our answers.
00:37:00.000If we cared about a rare monkey that we found in Indonesia, some strange monkey, we would do whatever we could to make sure that monkeys' populations thrived.
00:37:09.000If there was a way to help them, I mean, that's one of the reasons why zoos exist.
00:37:13.000They take rare animals, they try to breed them in captivity.
00:37:16.000But we're also sharing the same Earth.
00:37:19.000Well, maybe they look at the universe that way.
00:37:21.000And maybe they look at nuclear civilizations, like our civilization.
00:37:25.000I mean, our civilization's a very dangerous one because we're a bunch of semi-hairless monkeys with nuclear weapons.
00:38:13.000That's why when you go to the Galapagos Islands, you're not allowed to take your shoes that you walked around Los Angeles and walk around the Galapagos Islands.
00:38:19.000Because people have done that, and they've gotten seeds from their shoes stuck in the sand over there, or the ground over there, and then new plants grow that are an invasive species.
00:41:11.000But the whole thing was that this python had ate the alligator, and then once they eat it, they can't move, because they got a fucking 900-pound alligator inside of them.
00:41:32.000And that in houses and cities and even towns, even if you have a town, it's rare that a fucking wild predator makes its way into your town.
00:41:38.000But man, that's the whole rest of the world.
00:41:40.000That's the whole world, including the ocean.
00:41:42.000Everywhere is all just predators and prey, predators and prey, predators and prey.
00:41:47.000We've figured out a way to insulate, but in insulation, the problem is when we're isolated from it, we neglect it as an aspect of nature.
00:41:55.000We put it in some weird box, like, oh my god, this is weird.
00:44:38.000Well, people don't respect it because they think they're slow, too.
00:44:41.000So when they see them, I think they run like 24 or 25 miles per hour where a person that runs a 100-yard dash in the Olympics, I think average around like 29 to 30 miles per hour.
00:46:07.000If anyone I knew got killed the first day that something gets killed by a fucking python in Florida, when a human gets jacked, we should send in the marines.
00:46:17.000Just go through the fucking swamp and kill them all.
00:46:52.000It used to be there were some snakes, like cottonmouths and stuff like that, and there was alligators, but then there was like marsh hares and raccoons and skunks.
00:47:34.000I was watching this video of a crab, and it's a mother crab just sitting there eating its babies.
00:47:40.000It had, like, thousands of babies all around it that had just hatched, like, a couple weeks ago, and it's just sitting there eating its babies.
00:48:46.000I mean, it's not like I want them to go extinct, but that's one animal that we, in our house, kill ourselves and no one has a problem with it.
00:48:55.000Like, if they brought them a rabbit and you had to throw it in the water like fatal attraction, if that was the only way to keep...
00:49:24.000What's crazy is this whole Animal Kingdom thing, but one thing that scares me that you were doing when I walked in is playing these fucking shooter games.
00:51:16.000Like that thing that guy just picked up, that's like 175 health.
00:51:20.000And you want to get all the armor that you possibly can.
00:51:23.000Then you also want to be clever about weapons choices because you're always engaging at different distances, different kinds of fights.
00:51:30.000Sometimes you're stuck in a corridor and sometimes you're in an area where they can't shoot you but you can shoot them if you use the right weapon.
00:51:39.000Man, you need to bring it back to old school.
00:51:41.000Atari, that one red button, that one red button did everything on the joystick.
00:51:47.000No, you never killed a guy with a railgun.
00:51:50.000Once you kill a guy with a railgun, you'll understand.
00:51:52.000I don't want to kill a guy with a real gun.
00:54:24.000There's guys out there that are 150 pounds that I can roll with that I know will tap me virtually every time we roll.
00:54:29.000Because their technique is sharper, they train more often than I am, they're more focused, they're more in the groove.
00:54:35.000But I also heard you say, like on one of your podcasts, you've got to watch out who you train with because they might just try to hurt you.
00:58:29.000That style heavily favors being built like a little tank.
00:58:33.000Whereas that long, like you are, you're a tall, long guy, you would have good darse chokes, good rear nakeds, good arm bars, good triangles.
00:58:44.000You would have length and leverage with that length.
00:58:48.000Because long-legged guys, sometimes a guy like me with short legs, I'll get my legs crossed and I have to adjust a lot to be able to cinch up by triangle.
00:58:58.000Whereas you might be able to just close it up right there.
00:59:00.000So you'll have more opportunities for triangles because of the length of your limbs.
00:59:05.000Would you have ever been at a point in your career when you were doing jiu-jitsu where you...
00:59:11.000How would you have been in the UFC? Like, at your prime, like...
00:59:23.000I was kickboxing, and first it was Taekwondo, and then I went to kickboxing, and by the time the UFC came around, like, on the ground, I was useless.
00:59:35.000I would go to the gym, and if I tapped anybody, like, if it was, like, a week went by, and I tapped one guy, I'd be like, woo, I fucking tapped a guy.
00:59:45.000There wasn't that many people doing it.
00:59:47.000So I was going with like, there was a couple of white belts maybe, and then there was like blue belts and purple belts and brown belts, and those guys would always tap me.
00:59:54.000And so that's just how it went for a long time.
00:59:58.000Unless you're some kind of freak, like some big-ass football player or some super athlete, you're probably not going to be able to hold these guys off.
01:01:33.000If it's a jiu-jitsu fight, if you guys get into some sort of a tussle, and that guy grabs you and trips you, and boom, and he's on the ground with his hand on your jacket and a knee on your chest, you're a dead man.
01:02:09.000I had some friends that liked to throw down when I was younger, and I wouldn't do it.
01:02:15.000I was watching, but now it's kind of like you've got to watch everybody because you don't know what kind of training they're doing.
01:02:20.000Everybody's so educated on it, and it's so big right now.
01:02:23.000Well, some guy fought off a guy in the subway that was attacking with a knife with some moves that he learned watching the UFC. He never even trained before.
01:02:41.000I think it's good, like, when you mention it, I think it's good just to learn so you would feel better about yourself in case danger comes.
01:02:54.000If you don't know how to fight and there's some drunk asshole who doesn't know how to fight either, but he might come over and punch you in the face and sucker punch you and he could hurt you or knock you out in front of your woman...
01:03:25.000We've all seen these 7-Eleven fucking parking lot fights on YouTube where some asshole, and both of them don't know how to fight, but one guy might fuck that guy up.
01:03:33.000He might kick him in the face while he's down.
01:04:57.000So did you just stop lifting weights or do you still look a little bit...
01:05:00.000No, I'm all cardio now because, you know, like trainers, any trainer I work with, since I got a big frame, they're like, well, put some sides.
01:07:55.00040% decrease with people that were doing the sauna four times a week.
01:07:58.000Well, I will tell you this, because the whole thing is, everybody wants to feel young.
01:08:02.000And when you were young, the thing you did most was sweat.
01:08:06.000And I feel like when I sweat, it just feels, I don't know, I just feel good sweating because it reminds me when I played sports, it reminds me, even though I'm not doing on the, you know, I sweat a little on the treadmill, but when I do that infrared sign, it makes me feel great and young.
01:08:21.000I think there's a bunch of shit going on, but there's that for sure.
01:08:24.000Like, it's good to feel good, like you're sweating.
01:08:58.000Yeah, that's why I got a regular sauna, because Dr. Rhonda Patrick told me that the studies that have been done have all been done with a regular sauna.
01:09:06.000And she said there might be some benefit for infrared sauna, but I don't know what's published.
01:11:36.000Some suicidal person lands on your fucking head.
01:11:38.000I was at Adidas, the flagship in New York, Adidas, and like five minutes before I got there, a person just jumped off and killed themselves right outside the store.
01:12:51.000Yeah, well, you're happy, and that's an awesome thing.
01:12:53.000But, you know, when we're talking about spectrums, there's clearly a spectrum of that.
01:12:59.000And some people, I think, have it horrifically.
01:13:02.000They just have, for whatever reason, chemical imbalance, life experiences that are awful, PTSD, whatever the formula is, they have it to the point where it's almost unbearable every day.
01:14:47.000Now I'm paraphrasing, but I would say they think it's a bore just living our normal lives.
01:14:52.000And unless they're fighting for our country and saving people's lives, like, everything else is just boring.
01:14:58.000Yeah, I mean, you talk about literally life being turned up to 10. There's nothing else that compares to it on the planet other than being a police officer.
01:16:24.000You know, I've been pulled over a couple times, and I gotta say, you know, most of them, like my dad, you know, they say a black thing to do when you have a black father.
01:16:32.000They tell you very early on, when a cop pulls you over, hands out, let him see it.
01:16:36.000You know, it's taught to us when we're born and raised, especially where I grew up.
01:16:40.000So, you know, I've even been profiled.
01:18:44.000I said, okay, now let me ask you this.
01:18:45.000What if everybody agreed to never speed?
01:18:49.000Like, we made a six-month agreement in this country where we would never speed, and no one speeded, and there was no more traffic violations in terms of speeding tickets.
01:19:03.000Yeah, they were like, I think they would just slash the police department.
01:19:07.000They put quotas on you because you're a glorified revenue collector.
01:19:11.000I mean, that's what those guys are doing.
01:19:12.000Well, don't you think that's a problem, though?
01:19:13.000Like, when you're pulling people over, and I think that it all, look, the problem is with the police and people start from the court, and that's a major problem.
01:19:22.000If you have to pull over people, even if you're a cop and go, eh, they're not really doing anything bad, but I have to meet my quota of tickets, that starts from a very negative place.
01:22:01.000My wife is in the backseat with my son.
01:22:03.000Rolls down the window when he's walking away and goes, excuse me, how do you know it was this black SUV? I see lots of black SUVs passing us.
01:26:42.000What I hate about this conversation, whatever side they're on with the cops, they're going to pull whatever they want because we've talked negative.
01:28:18.000For us, there were no cell phones or internet.
01:28:21.000And then, in like the last 35 years, I don't think you'll ever see a technology boom, like in this last 35 years.
01:28:28.000So many advancements happen so quick, and that's why we today can't react to them fast enough.
01:28:36.000We don't know, like now parents are doing, like parents that are our age are doing the same things the kids are doing, where my dad never cared about parents.
01:28:58.000I think we haven't even scratched the surface.
01:30:15.000If you can wear something that picks up on that in the same way, picks up on Wi-Fi in the same way, picks up on cellular signals, whether it's 4G or 5G, which is coming out soon, which is supposed to be unstoppable and powerful, if that can feed information directly to your brain,
01:31:09.000We're talking about within the next decade, maybe two decades, there's gonna be something that changes a person and makes...
01:31:18.000If you're a person with a limited education and no phone, Think about how little access to the world's knowledge base you had.
01:31:28.000Now, if you're a person with limited access to information and education, but you have a phone, and that phone is online, you have everything.
01:31:47.000But you have possibility of finding all the information.
01:31:52.000Now, in the future, I think that's going to be escalated.
01:31:57.000And it's going to be escalated exponentially.
01:31:59.000There's going to be some new leaps in technology that happen that guys like you and I that don't work in the field, we're going to see it coming.
01:32:06.000These people are working on these things right now.
01:32:08.000And they're competing with people in China and Russia and all over the world that are also working on these technologies.
01:33:46.000There's things that help people, like that gal right there is not a big person, but she can work in a factory, and you can carry things that are much heavier than what you would ordinarily be able to carry.
01:33:57.000Now, they think that as technology moves and improves, they're going to get to the point where they develop what's essentially like an Iron Man suit.
01:34:54.000And the one they tell them, they're going to make them for sale and they're not going to give them the option as to whether or not they regulate them.
01:34:59.000They're just going to make them for people and then you're going to have to figure out the laws once people have them.
01:35:04.000And then once grandma has one and all of a sudden grandma's playing tennis again, you tell me grandma can't play tennis because some bad guys want to use an exoskeleton to rob a bank?
01:35:16.000But I still, everything you've said so far still, to me, is not bigger than not having internet.
01:35:23.000Well, the internet opened the door, but we don't know if that technology, like the thing that you can, like, talking to your phone, and you can say, hey Siri, when was the Constitution formulated?
01:35:36.000You know, hey Siri, what was the first draft of the Declaration of Independence written on?
01:35:40.000You can ask those questions, and Siri will answer those questions.
01:35:43.000Google search will answer those questions for you.
01:35:48.000What if that thought interfaces with your brain in a way where it describes things maybe in symbols or direct feed of information through some unfathomable technology that literally just permeates language.
01:36:02.000It gets through all of that and just gives you information.
01:36:05.000If I speak to you in a different language, it'll automatically translate it.
01:36:52.000Because people are already pooling up in these little echo chambers, whether it's message boards or Twitter groups that you're in, and they feed off of each other and agree on each other with each other all the time.
01:37:05.000You've got to be really careful with information these days.
01:37:07.000And also, they have to keep scholars to keep the real information, because it's just like that one show, I forgot what it's called, Black something, Black Box, Black Mirror.
01:40:38.000I remember I was driving somewhere, and I made a turn on the street near my house, and it was one or two days after 9-11, and I never saw more flags on cars in my life.
01:41:17.000That was one of the things that Reagan said once when he was talking about, they were meeting with Gorbachev, and he said, I often wonder how we would put our differences aside if we were faced with an alien threat from another world.
01:42:41.000If America, like the whole country, could look in the mirror when Donald Trump was elected, it's a reflection of America when he got voted.
01:42:49.000It's a reflection of a percentage of us, for sure.
01:43:24.000Donald Trump has brought more people together against him.
01:43:28.000Americans were marching for Muslims after Donald Trump became president.
01:43:33.000The positivity that Donald Trump has created with the opposition and the togetherness, you had a million women march because Donald Trump was president.
01:43:42.000You had people marching for the Muslims because Donald Trump was president.
01:43:46.000He's brought, for the first time, I feel like the side that opposes Donald Trump, they're more together than ever.
01:43:53.000And even though we say it's ripped the country apart, you know, because there's some problems in this country, but it has brought a bunch of people together.
01:44:01.000And I don't think if Hillary was president, you wouldn't have had the Women March.
01:44:05.000You wouldn't have had the March for the Muslims.
01:44:07.000You wouldn't have had people backing immigrants.
01:45:05.000I think Hillary without Bill didn't exist.
01:45:07.000I think that guy was a dick-slinging buccaneer, and he made his way into the motherfucking White House, and she rode that wave.
01:45:16.000There was a giant V12 sucking gasoline like it was going out of style, blowing a big wake behind it, and she was hanging on to that fucking wakeboard line.
01:45:46.000And maybe she's a liar because she's a politician, but when just you compare what was public, like her knowledge of what went wrong with the email servers and all that jazz, and many other instances too, just one we'll talk about,
01:46:02.000and what Comey said when Comey was examining the evidence and what they did wrong and what she said they did wrong.
01:46:32.000And then they say, these are the things you can go after, and these are the things you can't, because if you go after this, we can't protect you from it.
01:46:40.000I really believe those conversations happen in the White House.
01:46:43.000Like, what kind of things do you think they say they can't protect you from?
01:46:57.000Don't talk about the CFR. Stay out of Bohemian Grove.
01:47:03.000I just think there's a list of corporations, big corporations that run America that they say you can't go after because a lot of presidents go in there saying, I'm going to do this against this corporation.
01:47:13.000I'm not going to even say the corporation because I want to live.
01:47:16.000And I feel that Secret Service really calls these people in, the presidents, and go, hey, this is who you can't go after.
01:49:31.000Yeah, and then also you have to take that long, slow turn where, you know, it's not like you just drive by going 50 miles an hour and you've got to get your gun out of them and shoot them quick.
01:50:45.000I think a certain percentage of the population loves Trump right now, period.
01:50:50.000And, you know, they have reasons to back it up in terms of the economy, what they think is happening with job creation, all these different things that he's doing that may or may not have devastating implications, depending on who you talk to that's an expert, and I'm not one.
01:52:17.000Yeah, they're like, bro, you get over there, it's nice, you get a shower, they have delicious food, they have a taco stand, you have a fucking party over there, bro, margaritas, you party with the guards once you get to know them, they're good guys.
01:52:30.000And that's the thing, it's like, what do you do?
01:54:00.000Yeah, I just think, globally, if people ever could get their shit together, and this is what I hope, this is my, if I had like a pipe dream of technology, that technology gets us to a place where we can read each other's minds.
01:54:18.000And I think once we can read each other's minds, we can understand that we're not that dissimilar.
01:54:23.000That we're not nearly as far apart as we think we are, and that most of our problems that we have Are problems of ego and problems of ideology and problems of ethics and morals and truth and lies and that reading each other's minds will sort a lot of that out and then we're going to figure out a way to I don't want to say for redistribution of wealth.
01:54:47.000I don't think you should just give people things.
01:54:49.000What I think you should do is try to figure out a way to rebuild communities and give people opportunities to live better lives.
01:55:43.000We're the luckiest fucking people that ever walked the face of the planet.
01:55:46.000Anybody who doesn't acknowledge that, you've got to be crazy, man.
01:55:49.000I became friends with this lady at a restaurant, and me and my wife and son would always go in there.
01:55:54.000And we got really close, and she was just talking about her family's from Ecuador, and her kids, she can't afford her kids to be over here, so she's sending them to school over there, and she keeps sending money over there.
01:56:21.000Like, this lady we've known for over, like, eight years.
01:56:24.000And she tells these stories about, like, her sending her money and she has a person out there that basically, you know, lives in a little house and keeps everything secret.
01:56:33.000Because if it comes out that she's sending money to them, they'll hold that family hostage and cut their fingers off and Yeah.
01:56:43.000And we're living here, you know, we're lucky we're doing this podcast, but there are people struggling, and when I hear people go, ah, you know, that's their problem.
01:59:43.000You still have incompetent people that are distributing the money.
01:59:45.000They'll just create more jobs, there'll be more red tape, more bureaucrats.
01:59:51.000What we've got to do is figure out a real plan for engineering our civilization better.
01:59:58.000That's what people have to do, and there should be real discussion from real experts, biologists, historians, psychologists, people who really understand human beings, really understand what's wrong with our society today,
02:00:14.000and we have an open discussion nationally about that.
02:01:41.000There's never been a time where everyone had a say in one way, shape, or form.
02:01:46.000Whether it's through commenting, through Instagram, or Twitter, or social media.
02:01:50.000That's one of the reasons why upholding the freedom of speech in these things is so important.
02:01:54.000Even if people are saying things you don't agree with.
02:01:57.000The only way this all gets sorted out is we get to figure out a way to express ourselves.
02:02:01.000And there's going to be arguments back and forth, but what you've got to do is someone's got to put forth an educated plan, like a plan that's based on science and reason and a plan that you can debate against opposers of that plan.
02:02:14.000But when you have people that don't believe in science, how do you...
02:02:18.000Slowly but surely, you've got to educate people.
02:02:21.000It's going to take generations, is what I'm saying.
02:02:23.000It's like the momentum of our stubbornness and our past and the sort of the systems that we find ourselves stuck in, systems of behavior and thinking and culture...
02:02:34.000All that stuff is going to take a long time before we sort the wheat from the chaff.
02:02:38.000We've got to figure out what's good and what's bad, and we're doing it.
02:02:42.000But we're doing it actively, and it's frustrating because you're like, God damn it, this is the worst time.
02:02:58.000Like, 20 years ago, you heard N.W.A. make that song F the Police, and they're talking about the same things that are happening today, except you would hear the song and go, oh, that's a great song.
02:04:12.000So when you'd shake his hand, he would give you this weird handshake where he would shake your hand, but there was always one finger that wouldn't straighten out.
02:04:42.000It's just, we need to get to a better place.
02:04:44.000Yeah, we're getting to a better place.
02:04:45.000But I think it's a long, slow process.
02:04:49.000I think we are in the, I mean, there's people that say, like, hey, to minimize the suffering that people feel right now is unjust, and for you to say that is outrageous, and it's just a hallmark of your delusional perspective.
02:06:24.000That some fucking juggernaut like Mark Cuban or one of these billionaire characters is like hustling constantly and gathering up massive resources.
02:06:33.000Yeah, he's playing the game of Monopoly, but he's playing it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
02:06:38.000You can't stop people from doing that.
02:06:40.000What you can stop them is from doing unjust things with that money.
02:06:44.000And what maybe you can do is help someone lean towards a Bill Gates type situation where he does so much good and so much charitable work.
02:06:54.000It helps out so many people that you go, oh, well maybe it's not a bad thing for a guy like that to have all that money.
02:07:00.000Because you don't have to think of him as just Mr. Moneybags.
02:07:02.000Maybe you can think of him as he does have access to all this money, but he's also this incredible resource for hope and change and prosperity for some folks.
02:07:11.000I think people wouldn't mind giving money.
02:07:16.000To something that they see being built.
02:08:04.000What's interesting is one of the things that's cool about the government fighting is you get to see that even the president can't do the things that he wants.
02:08:10.000He has to consult with people and they have to agree on something.
02:10:20.000Like literally his Instagram, but in real life.
02:10:22.000And he'll never know this, but it's a thing that's, for me, just average schmo, Michael Yo, to take the time out every time I interview him, to ask me if I'm achieving my goals, if I'm moving forward in life, giving me positive things, positive thoughts,
02:10:38.000to take that time like five minutes after every interview.
02:13:46.000Well, if you want someone to hold one hand on the top of a building and then hold your wrist with another and know that he's got you, according to the movie poster, that's The Rock.
02:16:44.000The problem I had with being an entertainment reporter, they give you questions to ask and you have to ask them, or literally, it could be your job.
02:16:56.000So they float out like a bunch of real dumb ones?
02:20:50.000It's not the way to discuss things when you're coming out of the airport or you're on your way to a fucking restaurant somewhere and someone sticks a camera in your face.
02:22:56.000Look, if you're making a story and you want these characters in the story, like say if you have some big fucking goon who terrorizes people, you can't get Kevin Hart to play that role.
02:23:34.000Apparently he was working on some movie, some bullshit part in some movie, and he was super depressed and started doing this fucking character.
02:23:43.000You know, he does that character from Slingly, and then would do it in the mirror and shit, and practice it, and decided to make a whole fucking movie about it.
02:24:58.000You're making your own path, and I think with comedy, now is the time where people can make their own path and control their own destiny and get paid really well.
02:25:05.000I mean, just go to a comedy store and look at the parking lot now of comics.
02:25:08.000Well, what it is now is you're not dependent upon networks anymore.
02:25:13.000The networks that we've created, or what I like to refer to as an organic network.
02:25:55.000And one of the beautiful things about it is, no one's fighting for scraps anymore.
02:25:59.000It's not like there's TV shows, and there's only, like, if you and me are in the audition room, and we're friends, but we're both auditioning for the same role, like, I don't really wish you very well.
02:26:37.000Well, what I love about all you guys doing the podcast and blowing up, it's Jason Segel.
02:26:43.000I used to interview him a lot when he was making movies and stuff.
02:26:45.000And he said, the thing about Judd Apatow is after Freaks and Geeks, Judd basically made his own network.
02:26:52.000James Franco and those guys, and they supported each other no matter what.
02:26:56.000And I see that same thing happening now, and it's good with comedians.
02:27:00.000Comedians are pairing up and saying, this is our group, and if you're funny, you're funny, and let's watch each other's back instead of competing.
02:27:57.000To put out there this famine mentality.
02:27:58.000It's just that this, there was a, like we were talking about earlier, like if you're an actor, you gotta hope somebody's got something that you fit into.
02:32:35.000She brought comedians that were retired back.
02:32:38.000That was the first time I saw one show could be so powerful in a niche audience where if you love comedy, You're going to sell out all these people's shows while it's hot.
02:32:49.000And now it seems like this show is that comedians come on here, and they're just selling out all over the place.
02:32:55.000And that's a tribute to you, man, and your audience, how they're so passionate about you.
02:33:40.000So if I can do something that helps stand-up and helps comedians be successful and helps encourage more people to try it because I think there's thousands and thousands of just...
02:33:53.000Unexplored stand-ups across the country.
02:33:55.000They just never take a chance, never do it, never have anybody encourage them, never think about doing it.
02:34:03.000I really do, because your senses are so high.
02:34:06.000I've never been in a situation where when you're on stage, you're saying your act, you're thinking about something else, you're hearing conversations, like you're hearing a waitress take an order, and you're noticing what people are doing.
02:34:19.000It's almost like an out-of-body experience.
02:34:23.000I can't think of any other normal time throughout the day that would ever happen where it's pretty amazing what your mind can do when you're on stage.
02:35:13.000And the only way to get that honed fucking samurai sword edge, you've got to constantly be doing it.
02:35:20.000It's that thing that you're doing where you're talking about hearing all these things, but concentrating on what you're saying and being in the moment, which is the most critical, because they know when you're not in the moment.
02:35:29.000They somehow or another know when you're...
02:35:31.000You can say the same words with the same inflection, and it won't work.
02:35:35.000That's what's amazing about it, though.
02:36:53.000If you take enough time and enough effort and enough care on your craft and put together an act that's good, the people are going to enjoy it.
02:39:31.000I had a few good bits, but they weren't good enough, and I didn't have the confidence to go on after a Martin Lawrence or a Dice Clay or anybody who was really good.
02:39:39.000Anybody who was really famous, I would get nervous, like, Jesus.
02:39:45.000But through that, I figured out a way to do it.
02:39:48.000I figured out a way, like, okay, I have to figure out a way to grab people and let them know that I know the situation.
02:39:53.000Like, oh, this unknown fucking loser has to follow Martin Lawrence.
02:40:10.000I had to follow Pryor for five weeks in a row at the Comedy Store when he was really sick.
02:40:19.000And, um, uh, the late great Marilyn Martinez, her husband, um, and Chewy, who was the door guy at the comic store, used to help Richard Pryor to the stage, and it would take forever, because they would walk him, you know, losing control of his body,
02:40:35.000and, um, they sat him down, and they would crank the microphone up to, like, as loud as it goes, so it was like, he would hear the feedback, like, shh!
02:40:42.000And he would drink, probably wasn't supposed to be doing, because he was on medication, just drinking and just talking.
02:40:49.000And a lot of it was really sad, because you realize, like, wow, this is the greatest comic of our time.
02:40:54.000I mean, he's on the wall here in the studio.
02:40:56.000I mean, if he's not the greatest ever, he's certainly in the conversation.
02:51:12.000I don't think that's what life's all about.
02:51:14.000I think you can affect people in a very meaningful way and never have kids, and there's nothing wrong with that.
02:51:18.000But I think, for me at least, for being the caveman that I am, it's very important for me to see these little girls grow up and become We're good to go.
02:51:47.000And they can actually affect other people and have those other people treat the world in a different way and treat people with more respect and be nicer to people.
02:51:57.000We could have a better world for everybody.
02:52:33.000You want to talk about a super powerful fucking entertainer, one of a kind human being.
02:52:39.000I remember I was a kid, I was delivering newspapers, I was driving around, and I listened to, I had a cassette of I Want to Be Your Lover, which is like his first big hit, and I was like, holy shit, listen to this guy.
02:53:40.000I thought the Michael Jackson thing was interesting because I thought he's obviously a stunning, incredibly talented performer, but he was so weird and so unrelatable in every way.
02:53:52.000So oddly feminine and childlike, even though he's in his 30s.
02:53:58.000I was like, I get that he's super talented, but to And then when the plastic surgery started happening, his face started changing and morphing.
02:55:02.000But I think back then, people thought of him as an older guy that they didn't really care as much about anymore, who hasn't put out relatively popular music for quite a while.
02:55:13.000He turned into an artist, I guess they could say, where the music was just for himself.
02:55:20.000It wasn't any new smash hits, you know?
02:55:23.000It's like there's some guys, right, that, like, one of the things that keeps Kanye West relevant is that he's constantly putting out music.
02:56:26.000He is so opposite his persona on the outside that you see in gossip magazines and on TV. I used to host his Donda West Foundation event in Chicago.
02:56:38.000And a lot of people don't know the good he did in Chicago.
02:56:41.000If they had perfect attendance, he would go there every year, throw a huge concert, Bringing like Common and all different type of Chicago artists.
02:56:50.000He would bus everybody in from all over the city and throw a free concert for all these kids that had perfect attendance.
02:56:58.000And it was good to interview him that way because at that time, when his mom was still alive, he was such a down...
02:58:09.000If you're nailing something, if you really lock down something and boom, you put out a live on the Sunset Strip or a delirious or something like that, you're changing culture.
02:58:35.000It's amazing that when you do stand up, what I love about it is when I was just a host doing the entertainment shows, I would go into castings.
02:59:06.000So, how castings have changed, I go in now, they go, oh, we saw you at the Improv, or we saw you here or there, and you can host, this is amazing!
02:59:14.000So, just the respect you get From doing good comedy.
02:59:18.000You know, it's better to me than a Taylor Swift on stage because she has a whole band.