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00:03:31.000I remember when Netflix used to have those DVDs that you would get like in front of the fucking supermarket and you have to send them back.
00:05:08.000Like, my grandparents were from Sicily, and they would talk in dialects, and even people that knew Italian wouldn't know what the fuck they were saying.
00:07:43.000Yeah, because sometimes I watch those shows on, like, Nat Geo or something like that, and they're just living off the land, and they've got to, like, make a hut or make a yurt, you know?
00:07:56.000What you want is like a real tent with a real sleeping bag so you stay warm and you're healthy and you're not worried about fucking freezing to death or anything weird like that.
00:08:50.000All pigeons, all the pigeons you see in the United States are all brought in from somewhere else for food, and then they release to become feral.
00:08:57.000They're like the wild hogs of the bird world.
00:08:59.000What are young rats called that are used for food?
00:09:37.000I live in Jersey, and that's one of the reasons I love Jersey, because I'm from South Carolina, so I'm used to seeing deers and possums and just different types of wildlife running through the streets.
00:09:58.000Not on my property, but when I used to stay with my aunt in the Poconos, the bears used to come in her backyard because there was like a scream in the backyard, and they would come in there and just grab fish out of the screen.
00:11:33.000Me and Duncan Trussell went and interviewed scientists and interviewed all these different archaeologists, all these different people that didn't believe and did believe.
00:11:42.000It was a real animal at one point in time.
00:12:43.000I was sitting at the lunch table and I was telling everybody I was going to turn into this werewolf at lunchtime.
00:12:49.000And I was saying this for like a week straight and we was all sitting at the table and I was just sitting there like, it's going to happen.
00:13:16.000Oh yeah, I grew up Jehovah Witness so I used to leave the Kingdom Hall and I would walk outside of the Kingdom Hall and I would like jump in the air and be looking down at the Kingdom Hall and I'd stay up there for a while and then I would come down.
00:14:31.000They just get talked into believing that they actually did something.
00:14:34.000If you're a kid, especially a young kid from the hood, and you're like 15, 16 years old, and the police are like, you're going to jail for 20 years if you don't tell us what we need to know.
00:15:20.000Listen, when I was young, I used to have a red tractor trailer.
00:15:23.000It was a red plastic trailer with a farmer on top of it.
00:15:26.000Like one of those hard plastic trailers.
00:15:28.000That farmer used to get off that trailer and fuck with me.
00:15:31.000And I took it in the yard one day, put kerosene on it, and set it on fire.
00:15:35.000And in my mind, I remember hearing that farmer scream.
00:15:40.000My mom will even tell you the story of how I used to always talk about how this fucking farmer used to come off of this tractor and fuck with me, and she saw me set it on fire.
00:15:48.000And I thought I was crazy until years later I met Tiffany Haddish, and she said she had experiences where her teddy bears used to come to life and fuck with her.
00:16:13.000Almost all those UFO abductions happen while people are sleeping.
00:16:17.000And they think what's happening is your brain is releasing endogenous psychedelic chemicals and it's forcing you to have these hallucinations.
00:16:48.000You would either put a straw broom at your door or you would take salt and sprinkle salt at your door because when the hag enters your room, you got to pick up every kernel of salt.
00:16:55.000So by the time he picks up every kernel of salt, it's fucking daytime.
00:19:09.000There's one where you get up and you're mad that we don't believe you that you saw Bigfoot or something.
00:19:13.000That kind of shit, the idea that when you think of infinity, we think about it as being really big.
00:19:21.000It's impossible to put in your head that infinite, infinite universes, like the size of the universe, 14 billion light years apart, infinite numbers of those.
00:19:30.000Not only that, they think that inside every galaxy is a supermassive black hole, and inside that black hole may be another universe, with hundreds of billions of galaxies, with hundreds of billions of black holes, inside each one of those hundreds of billions of galaxies, hundreds of billions of black holes,
00:19:47.000that it's fractal, and that it's impossible for you to even conceive.
00:20:13.000And if you look at how diverse the Earth is, there's different species of shit in the woods, different species of shit in the water, different species of shit in the jungle, different species of shit in the sky.
00:20:21.000Why wouldn't the Earth, I mean the universe, be just as diverse?
00:20:50.000Now we have 300 years to travel millions of light years away to get to another galaxy, to see other planets, to see if they have some shit.
00:20:58.000So let's say there is another species that somehow found a way to take the consciousness that they have and put it in a robot that can then last for thousands of years.
00:21:10.000Then they would have the opportunity to come here.
00:21:58.000So if someone's flying around the Earth in a plane versus us sitting on Earth, they will age fractionally less, right?
00:22:03.000So if you just increase their speed and decrease ours, or keep ours at the same, they will, let's say, not age at all compared to us aging, like, 30 years.
00:22:20.000From CERN, from the Large Hadron Collider.
00:22:23.000He has a bunch of different podcasts and shows.
00:22:26.000He said that if you were born, and right next to you, like your mother and you, both put on a watch at the moment you were born, and then you checked that watch 30 years later, if you had a perfect watch, it was never out of time, your watch would have a different time than her watch,
00:22:41.000because you have gone through time Differently than she has.
00:23:26.000But over the course of time, it proves that everyone experiences time at a slightly different rate.
00:23:31.000Which proves Einstein's theory that if you do travel very fast in a spaceship and then come back, you would look at your brother who was your age and now he's 100 years old and you're only 30. So I think I figured it out, how we can time travel.
00:23:44.000Or not time travel, but I think I figured it out.
00:25:49.000A lot of people think he's full of shit.
00:25:52.000There's a recent documentary by Jeremy Corbell, and the more you look at the documentary, he knows too many things.
00:25:57.000He knows too many things that prove that he absolutely worked at Area 51. He got arrested for bringing people to a lookout peak to look over where the area where they would launch these spaceships.
00:26:08.000And he's got video of these things flying through the air doing all these maneuvers that no conventional spacecraft could do in 1980, whatever the fuck it was, where he got arrested.
00:33:12.000No, because I think you guys represent, and I think the illusion was, before I went on here for the first time, the illusion was that these things operated in separate spheres.
00:33:21.000That there were these different vacuums, like the Charlemagne world, and then the Rogan world.
00:33:25.000And then I went on, and I found all these people that knew me from our podcast, That also listen to yours, right?
00:33:31.000So it turned out in that moment, I was like, oh shit, it's not as fractured as people think.
00:34:43.000Like, you can only take a story that sad and that tragic and turn it into a sitcom.
00:34:47.000She was talking yesterday about her ex-husband who shot her in the titty, shot her in the head, shot her in the titty, shot her in the back of the head, shot her in the titty, got her pregnant, was fucking her when she was 12, got her pregnant when she was 14, with two kids by the time she was 16. She had an abortion when she was 16 with his third kid.
00:35:05.000She called him up to try to get him to apologize to her.
00:35:09.000He wouldn't apologize to her, so she forgave him, and she said it released this huge weight off of her shoulder.
00:37:21.000Maybe you're not actually forgiving the person and letting them offer what they did, but maybe you're just removing them from your consciousness.
00:37:27.000People forgive when they're not going to do shit.
00:38:17.000When you guys have surpassed people in your career that were pieces of shit to you as you were coming up, did the anger that you had towards them totally leave your body?
00:38:58.000Yeah, yeah, because they told him that if he fired me and whatever he bought in didn't work, they was going to send him back to St. Louis because he had moved from St. Louis to be the PD in Philly.
00:39:58.000When I was starting out as a comic, and it was rough in New York, and motherfuckers were just dickheads to you, I used to carry a list of people who were pieces of shit in my wallet.
00:40:09.000Of all the people, I was going to say, fuck you two when I passed them.
00:40:12.000And as I would start to pass them, I felt zero anger.
00:40:42.000I've been fired four times from radio, you know what I'm saying?
00:40:44.000So I'm not angry at the people that fired me, but the people who told me things like, there was a guy named DJ Kaz in Charlton, South Carolina who told me, my first time I got fired, he told me I would never work in radio again because I was an asshole.
00:40:55.000And then Boogie D told me, this is why you'll never make it in radio.
00:40:59.000So those two individuals just need to be reminded.
00:47:49.000Kill them or kill someone else trying to get them?
00:47:51.000That hand on your neck when they're choking you, they want to be like close to the door of you doing something violent to them while you're fucking them so it feels good while you've got control over their life.
00:48:01.000You really have like, you're holding their neck, you've got control over their life.
00:48:51.000But the kind of girl that wants you to choke her like that, I think you should leave that one alone.
00:48:55.000Dude, my wife likes a little choking, but I mean, as we've gotten older, all of that stuff has kind of like subsided, but she used to like a lot of choking.
00:51:32.000She saw him wearing, or at least he was wearing an outfit, clubbed her over the head, and did all kinds of crazy shit to her and left her for dead.
00:52:39.000They say they're drinking at these mini bars and drinking at these bars and they've been testing the alcohol and it's like fake alcohol or some shit like that.
00:52:46.000I don't know what the fuck is going on.
00:52:53.000All it takes is nine people going to fuck up your whole tourist economy.
00:52:56.000You would think, but we live in this era where people are like, oh shit, let's go over there and see if we can survive the DR. It's become like a fucking game almost.
00:54:10.000Those high-altitude herders, they put a big wad of that shit in their mouth, they chew on it, and it releases into their bloodstream, and it's actually healthy.
00:54:19.000It's when they process it and turn it into cocaine that it's bad.
00:54:22.000What I've had is coca leaves in a tea form.
00:54:26.000So you just take the leaves, and it's in a tea bag, and you drink the tea.
00:54:30.000It just makes you kind of like hyper, and you talk too much.
00:54:32.000I'm not going to lie, when I smoked that cocaine with that weed by accident, that was the best high I've ever had in my motherfucking life.
00:57:33.000It's like, you don't get to notice that until you're there.
00:57:36.000Like, it's so easy to tell people, hey, you should be grateful, and then you'll feel better.
00:57:40.000But if they're not able to feel the sensation of gratitude, you're explaining to them, you're explaining Chinese to someone who doesn't even know what the fuck the language is.
00:57:51.000We're all in this unique situation where we've probably experienced that, and we probably tried to find ways to give back, et cetera, and then we felt really good because of it, and we're like, I should keep doing this.
00:59:58.000I think they're just suppressing shit so much, but eventually I think that shit just explodes in them and causes them to go crazy if they don't fucking get killed first.
01:00:05.000There are people, though, that don't experience any emotions the way we experience them.
01:00:15.000When I started going to therapy is when I started piecing things together.
01:00:20.000I made myself cold just because of how I felt like the world and the business was treating me at a certain point.
01:00:31.000I was purposely making myself cold, and I thought that was the way that I had to be.
01:00:35.000You fucking around to read books like the 48 Laws of Power when you're young, and you study all of these people who got to a certain point, and they all had this coldness about them, like this ruthlessness, like I'll step on anybody to get the way I need to be.
01:00:49.000But then you realize, these motherfuckers are miserable.
01:01:25.000He's one of these guys, I promise you, his understanding of life is unparalleled.
01:01:30.000Unparalleled to anybody I've ever studied.
01:01:32.000And you see a song like Smile Bitch, and we see it maybe on surface value, but everything he does has a purpose, and he's aware of the purpose, right?
01:01:39.000He's aware of the energy he puts out in the ecosystem and how it affects the ecosystem.
01:01:43.000And he was telling me how he likes to go to the islands.
01:01:45.000I visited him in Bahamas, and he likes to be in the Bahamas.
01:03:14.000He goes, you eventually get to a certain point where you realize you're going to die.
01:03:18.000And all these things that you want to accomplish that you thought you had to accomplish and all this shit that you thought you had to get done in order to value yourself is meaningless.
01:03:24.000It was just distraction until we get there.
01:03:28.000It's hard to swallow, dude, because you have to let go of ego, right?
01:03:31.000You have to go, okay, I'm okay as I am, and I'm okay having a good conversation with somebody or a good interaction today or just fucking sitting on the beach and looking at the stars, right?
01:04:14.000He had a heart transplant last year and he came on the podcast a year after his heart transplant and you've never seen a guy more loving and open and friendly and thankful and tells everybody he loves him and he's hugging everybody and just genuinely grateful because he was at death's door.
01:05:09.000That would be a great concept for a movie.
01:05:11.000Like somebody who was a male chauvinist all his life and shitting on women and then had to get a woman's heart and his whole concept of life change.
01:05:18.000It's like a Jim Carrey movie or something.
01:06:40.000How do we know that it's not fucking groups of animal rights activists, animals in the woods, saying these fucking bears need to stop killing these kids?
01:07:04.000And there was somebody tweeting about how horrible it is, but I bet there's a bunch of fish that are pulling up on that shark like, oh, look what we got here.
01:09:15.000I guess what I'm saying is like with C.T. Fletcher, right?
01:09:18.000He needed to see death in order to have this amazing revelation about life.
01:09:23.000And maybe the fucked up things that happen in the world.
01:09:25.000Maybe if there is some sort of design to all this.
01:09:28.000Maybe the fucked up things that happen in the world allow us to have a little bit of empathy and joy for being able to be here.
01:09:34.000Well, you got to give a fuck about life, first of all, because I can think about all the near-death experiences I had, whether it was somebody pulling a gun on me, whether it was me being drunk as shit and wrecking my mom's white aluminum caravan, and literally the only reason I survived is because I didn't have a seatbelt on it because I was so drunk that the impact didn't kill me.
01:09:51.000I didn't think about stuff like that until decades later.
01:09:54.000When it happened in the moment, it was just like...
01:09:59.000But when you're older and I got three daughters and I look at my wife and I look at people that love and care about me and I really appreciate and value life now, I start thinking back on that shit like, what the fuck was I thinking?
01:10:09.000I didn't give a shit about life back then.
01:10:11.000But I can get an anxiety attack thinking about those past moments because those past moments would have caused so much not to happen if I'd have died.
01:10:37.000You might not even know what real love is until you have children and you realize like, man, this is like my heart walking around outside my body.
01:12:25.000So while sitting there eating this mushy mashed potato textured banana, I was thinking about, there's not another person in this world I would do that for.
01:13:04.000People say I would die for you, but they don't mean it most of the time, unless they're a soldier who's willing to dive on a fucking grenade.
01:13:12.000But if I could die and I knew that my kids would be happy and healthy, but if I lived, they would die.
01:13:20.000I left New York 5.30 this morning simply because I was supposed to fly out last night, but my daughter had a track dinner, which I forgot about.
01:13:28.000And it was literally like a track dinner.
01:13:30.000It's in a fucking gym, and they're serving chicken tenders and lasagna and pizza and listening to Old Town Road 10 different times.
01:13:40.000Everybody gets a participation trophy.
01:13:59.000You both have these kids and you need to balance Loving them so much and telling them they're the most amazing people in the entire world and not making them horrible human beings.
01:14:09.000Well, more than that, not making them weak.
01:16:11.000We was in Grenada, and her and my niece, because my niece comes with me all the time, and they're just talking like, the food is so much better in Anguilla than here.
01:16:21.000I'm like, yo, you know what the fuck I was doing when I was nine?
01:16:24.000I was lighting toys on fire in my backyard.
01:19:01.000What I see in the communities that I live in is I always like the rich kids that have nannies that take them everywhere and they don't see their parents very much because their parents work all the time.
01:19:10.000And their parents vacation without the kids.
01:19:12.000They like to go places without the kids all the time.
01:25:37.000They can't really do much with that job either besides teach it now either.
01:25:40.000That's why, to go back to Joel's point when you said I'm the last in radio, the reason I'm probably the last in radio is because I'm the guy that's staring people away from radio.
01:25:49.000When kids come up to me and they're like, y'all want to get in the radio?
01:26:13.000You know, I'm even experiencing that with commentary for the UFC because I love doing commentary for the UFC, but you know what I love even better?
01:31:58.000The word is, and I get this from a reliable source, is inside the fight community that Anthony Joshua got dropped in training camp right before the fight.
01:34:07.000I don't remember that when I was young.
01:34:08.000Buster Douglas is like one of the most talented guys that just didn't have the kind of drive and discipline that you needed to be a champion.
01:36:22.000Dude, we had Roy on Flayer 2, and I asked him, I was like, were you ever worried about getting knocked out and losing something, leaving something in the ring?
01:36:31.000And he takes a second and he goes, I'll be honest with you, man, I didn't come in the ring with much sense to begin with, so I wasn't really worried about losing it.
01:37:25.000It's like, some guys start, they start fight fighting or they start doing MMA. They start doing a little Brazilian jiu-jitsu or some shit like that, right?
01:37:31.000And they put a couple chokes in, in like a safe, controlled environment.
01:37:34.000And you get that, like, delusional confidence.
01:37:38.000And that's why sparring is so important.
01:37:40.000Do you remember the first time you guys sparred?
01:45:45.000Hosting a show is why American Got Talent, all that kind of stuff, where you've got to be really excited about somebody juggling dildos or some shit.
01:47:53.000What was strange about it is the fact that she didn't think she was going to suffer any consequences from that.
01:47:58.000I think people forget that Donald Trump Even though he is the ex-executive producer of Celebrity Apprentice and he was a reality star, he's the president of the United States of America.
01:48:08.000It's rules about threatening heads of state.
01:52:53.000I buy what she was saying though that she was told that she was Native American because many people were and then they find out when they get a DNA test that it's not.
01:53:07.000Yeah, I was like, growing up, around the time I was going to college, a guy that works with my dad found out that he filed the paperwork to his college 10 years after the fact and got a bunch of money back.
01:53:19.000And so my dad's like, well, we're Native American.
01:55:06.000Okay, so Ticketmaster, you know the place where you buy tickets.
01:55:08.000I had no clue about this Ticketmaster thing.
01:55:10.000I'm just starting to do some theaters and shit on the tour, so I'm starting to look at what they charge to do the processing and servicing, right?
01:55:41.000So I'm starting to think, I'm going, okay, for the first time in my life, I'm like, okay, I'm selling some tickets and everything's good, and I'm just getting a piece of the door, so I'm happy, right?
01:55:49.000And my boy, who's like this genius fucking kid, OJ, Nigerian, all these Nigerians are geniuses, and he comes up to me, he's like, okay, but what about the processing fee for Ticketmaster?
01:56:58.000We could create a way cheaper ticketing service that gives every one of those emails to a comic.
01:57:05.000And it's like comics used to do back in the days by putting the comic cards on the tables and you collect them afterwards.
01:57:09.000You can have an email list for every time you go to Idaho, an email list for every time you go to New Jersey, an email list for all these different places.
01:58:03.000The only way you perform here is you do it with our promotion company, which is the Live Nation, and you're going to have to use our ticket processing fee and our venue.
02:00:07.000Or we could just create the ticket processing that charges them way less and already starts aggregating the emails.
02:00:15.000And then if you want to get real crazy with it, you have a boy of yours that, like, let's say my buddy Akash, right, that I do a podcast with.
02:00:21.000It's like, hey Akash, you're about to go on tour?
02:00:23.000Yo, why don't you just use my data set, man?
02:00:25.000They're going to know you from doing a podcast with me.
02:01:23.000I'm saying now, like, everybody that's coming out to your shows is coming out from this podcast.
02:01:26.000They're not coming out because of Ticketmaster.
02:01:28.000And if you use a different email service or ticketing service, they would come out with that one.
02:01:33.000There was a Sam Harris podcast where he talked about this, where he had on this expert, and they were discussing how data is, it's like a commodity that no one knew was a commodity, and we signed off on it before we realized it, and these people that don't provide any service are getting that data, and it's worth billions and billions of dollars,
02:01:50.000which is essentially what Facebook is.
02:01:53.000But it's also shaping the way we communicate with each other because the things that attract people are conflict, right?
02:01:59.000So the things that get you to engage are conflict.
02:02:02.000So that's the stuff that shows up in your email feed or your Facebook feed.
02:02:05.000They find out what's going to annoy you.
02:02:07.000And that's the shit that they show you.
02:02:09.000That's why OJ has 800,000 followers in two fucking days.
02:02:13.000Instantly on Twitter, which nobody grows on Twitter anymore.
02:02:15.000Yo, but at least Twitter, at least Facebook, they're not charging.
02:04:17.000They basically took all the recordings of me talking and made me say words that I've never said before.
02:04:25.000It talked about me sponsoring a hockey team made entirely of chimpanzees and a bunch of other crazy shit that I might actually say, but it said it.
02:07:03.000I was telling my therapist about it, because that helps me when I'm dealing with my anxiety, because it's like, you know, breathing exercises, things that get you back to center.
02:07:09.000Even though you're falling, and you can feel the dragon breathing on you, it's just like, when you realize...
02:07:26.000But if they have a roller coaster with virtual reality, like if you're wearing virtual reality goggles and they put you on a roller coaster.
02:07:54.000I'm glad you talk about it the way you do because I think you've opened it up for a lot of people.
02:07:57.000I think you've made it a subject that's okay to talk about for someone like you who's like a cool guy who's a smart dude who is successful and talks openly about anxiety and about how it's affected you.
02:08:11.000I think you're doing a very big service for that.
02:08:14.000I didn't even know what anxiety was until 2010. Because growing up in the environment that I grew up in, I just thought all those feelings were normal.
02:08:21.000I thought all those feelings of paranoia or being anxious all the time.
02:09:37.000So in my mind, all I gotta do is get me another job, get back in position, and everything will be okay.
02:09:42.000But when you get back in position, and you've made more money than you've ever made in your life, and you've got books that are selling and TV shows and all of this other shit, and you're still having those same panic attacks, you're like, well, what the fuck is going on with me?
02:10:06.000It's pressure with people's eyes on you and expectations and criticisms and all these different things that the average person is not going to experience that for millions of people.
02:11:24.000Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, there's no way to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
02:11:28.000So the only thing you can do is just either let it consume you and probably ruin you just because you took it all in, or you just keep it the fuck moving.
02:11:37.000You have to be confident enough to know what's the truth and what's not the truth.
02:11:41.000Yeah, and so now you don't read any comments anymore?
02:11:54.000We were talking about it yesterday, me and Duncan Trussell.
02:11:57.000We were saying that it's like your diet.
02:11:59.000Like your diet, if you take in junk food all the time, eat a bunch of shitty things that are unhealthy, it's not good for your body.
02:12:06.000Well, your mental diet is important too.
02:12:08.000And if you're always taking in these toxic arguments, I mean, half of Twitter is just people screaming at each other and just yelling and insulting each other and trying to find ways in this person's being shitty or wrong or negative.
02:17:15.000And he was like, the reason that they chose magic was because they wanted to erase a lot of these stigmas.
02:17:21.000People thought that HIV and AIDS was a gay disease and they needed like an alpha male, I guess, to have it to kind of erase that stigma and to let people know that you can live with it.
02:17:33.000Like HIV and AIDS... You mean like they gave it to him?
02:19:55.000Because of that, he played 13 seasons in the NBA, went to nine NBA Finals, won five of them, won in college, came in, won his rookie year, and went one-on-one with HIV and fucking won.
02:23:15.000All the mosquitoes are carriers of yellow fever, dengue fever, Japanese encephalitis.
02:23:21.000There's no evidence that mosquitoes can transmit HIV. Studies with HIV have shown clearly the virus disappears in the mosquito after about one to two days.
02:23:28.000Yeah, but what if that shit bites you and then bites you?
02:24:58.000Russell Peters fixed it because he went with him.
02:25:00.000So what happened was, Charlie was trying to do it by himself, and really didn't have anything to say, and people would get bored after a while, and they would boo him.
02:25:07.000And he was like, oh, fuck you, I have your money, and he's like a bunch of dumb shit, because he tried to do this live tour, but he didn't plan it out.
02:25:14.000So then what he did is he brought Russell Peters with him.
02:25:16.000So Russell, who's the best at work in the crowd, He could just make something out of nothing.
02:26:09.000No, back then it was the right window of time.
02:26:11.000It was like him coming through and just being unapologetic about doing drugs, and you don't pay hookers to fuck you, you pay them to leave.
02:27:17.000Think about how many guys have gotten a signed baseball from their girlfriend as a gift.
02:27:22.000Think about what was going through their heads when they read the post that moment and there's this signed Derek Jeter baseball on their fucking mantle.
02:27:41.000What Joe's saying is very true, though.
02:27:42.000That's why I always say, like, when I see dudes still treating women like shit in 2019, like, fucking them and kicking them out the room, and like, ah, I'm not answering the phone for her.
02:29:54.000They're all leaning into it, and I think that people have had enough with the PC shit, so they really like to see the fact that this is out there.
02:30:00.000I mean, we're posting, you know, I'll tell you one thing, the Joe Rogan effect.
02:30:04.000We used to do a million views a week on my YouTube channel, and I came on here.
02:31:27.000And the reason I do is because I love our audience.
02:31:30.000I love that group of people who come to listen to us every week.
02:31:34.000They know that we just out here saying some wild shit, not even on purpose, just because we're...
02:31:40.000We're trying to get ideas out and we're just talking through things.
02:31:43.000It's when you bring those outsiders in who hear you, don't know any context or nothing, take that little piece out of context, give it to the rest of the world.
02:31:51.000Now the rest of the world is outraged.
02:31:53.000We didn't ask y'all to come over here any fucking ways.
02:36:38.000He'll be like, I'm done with him, whatever.
02:36:40.000So it's like, he just had this thing, and he had such positive energy, and I'm making fun of a guy for fucking being in a wheelchair, and he's making fun of me for having a shitty upper body, and like, literally, I go to him, I was like, I said, you know, your upper body's pretty good, and he goes, what's your excuse?
02:38:48.000Exactly, because I heard about that 20 years ago, and I thought that was crazy, but now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, what was their life like?
02:38:54.000I need to know what their life was like.
02:38:56.000If they had something to lose, if they was actually successful, would they be doing that?
02:39:01.000I need to know what kind of people were out there trying to catch this bug.
02:39:05.000There's every step in the spectrum of crazy.
02:39:09.000You think about it, and there's a whole fucking category of people that are doing that.
02:39:15.000It was a big thing where guys were actively going out and trying and guys who had HIV were trying to go give it to people.
02:39:23.000That's why the thing with karma, I don't even necessarily believe in karma anymore because every day of our life, we're trying to avoid crazy, right?
02:41:24.000Now don't get me wrong, there's plenty of things that I've thought about that I've manifested, but like you said, I took the steps to go put in the work.
02:41:32.000I got this theory called putting the weed in the bag, you know what I'm saying?
02:41:35.000And it came from the movie Belly because Nas and DMX were sitting at this table with these two young kids and they were bagging up the weed and all the kids were like, I want to go out there and get money with y'all.
02:41:54.000I remember I was talking to this girl.
02:41:56.000She was a friend of a friend of mine, and she was telling me how I found the secret, and my life is going to be amazing now, and I'm going to get married, and I'm going to meet the right man, and everybody's like, okay.
02:42:07.000And then I ran into her like a year later.
02:42:09.000She came to one of my comedy shows, and I'm like, how's everything going?
02:43:53.000Every single one of us is going to say something that is going to offend somebody at some point in time.
02:43:58.000That doesn't mean that we shouldn't have a platform.
02:44:00.000I'm not calling for nobody to get killed.
02:44:02.000It also makes things fun when people say stupid shit sometimes.
02:44:06.000You know, when Stephen Smith was going off about Andrew Ruiz winning the title and about how it looked like Butterbean, this is a disgrace.
02:44:12.000I'm like, the guy is speaking the way he would speak if you were around him.
02:44:18.000Unless you want everybody to be Ryan Seacrest, you should fucking appreciate, not that there's anything wrong with Ryan Seacrest, but you should appreciate someone who's just giving you what they really think.
02:49:54.000Like, that's what really means something.
02:49:55.000When you talk to me about talking about anxiety and mental health, like, the past couple years, I feel like I've been walking in my purpose.
02:50:01.000You know, because I truly feel like if we can get more people to deal with their mental health issues, you'll reduce so much of the other bullshit we complaining about in America.
02:50:10.000The violence, the gun shootings, because when you got a bunch of people who have never dealt with their trauma, never dealt with their pain and their hurt, Hurt people, hurt people.
02:50:19.000And all we do is go around redistributing that pain to others.
02:50:21.000You think murderers and rapists do that shit because it's for the thrill of it?
02:50:37.000Yeah, there is a thing about purpose that like, what happens I think when some people reach financial independence, and I mean like fuck you money, meaning like you don't have to work anymore, your family, everything is good.
02:50:48.000You have, some people go, well I'm going to get even more money and I'm going to become a billionaire and a trillionaire or whatever.
02:50:53.000And then some people go, I'm going to live life instead of survive it.
02:50:57.000If you're working every week so you can get a paycheck, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that because the majority of people, but you are surviving.
02:51:39.000Like even when you're talking about something like opportunities on legislation, I feel like that goes hand in hand with mental health because environment is so important.
02:51:45.000So if you can, you know, get into these communities, these poor and disenfranchised areas, and you can start putting things in these communities that people actually need, like in the hood.
02:51:53.000You replace the liquor stores and the fucking chicken spots and the check cashing places with juice bars and mental health spas and wellness centers, things that people actually need.
02:52:05.000Now you're creating an environment where people can thrive in instead of just trying to fucking survive in.
02:54:46.000You've got to realize what harm you can do.
02:54:48.000You've got to be careful in the kind of things you say, the kind of things you promote, the kind of things that you sign off on or agree to.
02:54:56.000And I think there's also a responsibility to tell people about cool shit, tell people about things that have benefited you, to help people about how you've overcome your own personal mistakes.
02:55:05.000I think all those things are very important.
02:55:07.000Yeah, I never even thought about having influence until like the past three, four years.
02:55:12.000Because, you know, I'm just out here doing my thing.
02:55:46.000That right there lets me know I'm putting out the right energy into the ecosystem.
02:55:50.000Yeah, and also people become inspired to seek that same kind of path.
02:55:54.000When someone in the public eye like yourself and they see you grow and expand and change your views on things, it also inspires other people to open up themselves and change their own perspective and enhance their own way of looking at the world.