The Joe Rogan Experience - June 26, 2019


Joe Rogan Experience #1318 - Hotep Jesus


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 32 minutes

Words per Minute

185.82576

Word Count

28,261

Sentence Count

2,734

Misogynist Sentences

109


Summary

On this episode of the podcast, we have special guest and friend of the show, Vibe High, aka Hotep Jesus. We talk about how he got his start in the hip-hop industry, how he came up with his name, and what it means to be a "hotep" on social media. We also talk about the importance of social media's role in society, and why it's important to have a "safe space" in your social media presence. We also get into the current state of the music industry and how social media has changed the way we consume music and music in the 21st century, and how it's changing the way people consume music, music, and social media as a whole. We finish off the episode with some interesting listener questions that we have been getting a lot of questions about. Enjoy the episode and tweet us what you thought of it! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - How did Hotep get his name? 4:30 - How the name Hotep came about 6:15 - How he got into the hip hop industry 7:00 What is a hotep Jesus? 8:20 - What does it mean to him? 9:20 How does he think about social media? 10:30 11:10 - What is the future of music? 12:40 - Should you be on a social media platform? 13:00 | How can I have a safe space? 14:30 | Should I get on the social media board? 15:15 | How do I get a seat on the right wing? 16: Should I be on the board on the left wing or the middle? 17: What s a left wing person? 18:40 | What do I need to get on a right wing group? 19:10 | How should I get my voice? 21:20 | Who should I be getting on the Twitter Safety and Counsel Board? 22:00 // Is there a voice on that I should be on that s the middle-day? 26:00 + 27:00 & 27: Is it better than the middle day? 27:10 28: What's your opinion? 29:00 Can you get on that board? ? 30:00 Are you better? 35:00 What do you need to be on it?


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Two, one, boom.
00:00:03.000 Hotep Jesus.
00:00:04.000 How are you, sir?
00:00:05.000 I always wanted to say that.
00:00:07.000 I wanted to call somebody that.
00:00:08.000 I need that drop.
00:00:09.000 How the fuck do you get a name like Hotep Jesus?
00:00:12.000 How'd that come about?
00:00:13.000 It wasn't my idea.
00:00:14.000 I had just went through my spiritual awakening.
00:00:18.000 I just left the hip-hop industry, and I went through that mace thing.
00:00:21.000 What are you doing with the headgear?
00:00:23.000 We got a lot going on up there.
00:00:24.000 I had to tie my hair down.
00:00:25.000 It's a black thing, man.
00:00:26.000 I gotta screw you up.
00:00:29.000 So you have a spiritual awakening.
00:00:31.000 Yeah, I had this spiritual awakening.
00:00:32.000 And I'm, you know, tweeting on Twitter like I do.
00:00:35.000 Right.
00:00:36.000 And somebody said, what do you think you are?
00:00:39.000 Some kind of hotep Jesus?
00:00:40.000 Ooh, that's good.
00:00:41.000 And I was just like, ooh, that's sexy.
00:00:43.000 Yes, I do think I'm hotep Jesus.
00:00:45.000 That's perfect.
00:00:46.000 And now you own it.
00:00:47.000 Now I own it.
00:00:48.000 That person is probably like, fuck!
00:00:51.000 God damn it, that was a great name I gave that dude.
00:00:53.000 Yeah, I don't know who that person is or was or where they are now.
00:00:57.000 Shout out to whoever you are.
00:00:58.000 Exactly.
00:00:59.000 And Vibe High, your Twitter, why didn't you switch it to Hotep Jesus?
00:01:03.000 Can you switch it?
00:01:04.000 Does anybody own Hotep Jesus?
00:01:06.000 I do.
00:01:07.000 So you have Hotep Jesus on Twitter too?
00:01:09.000 Yeah, I reserved it.
00:01:10.000 Oh dude, I think they could probably swap.
00:01:11.000 Do you have one of them cute little blue check marks yet?
00:01:14.000 No.
00:01:15.000 What the fuck is that?
00:01:16.000 How do you get one of those?
00:01:16.000 I don't know.
00:01:17.000 There's some people that have those that have like a thousand followers.
00:01:20.000 Yeah.
00:01:21.000 How are you getting it?
00:01:22.000 Like if you work for the New York Times or some shit?
00:01:23.000 I thought you had the hookup.
00:01:25.000 I'll do Joe and then I get verified.
00:01:27.000 I don't know how Twitter feels about me.
00:01:31.000 I mean, I think Jack likes me.
00:01:32.000 He's been in a couple of times, but I think the whole...
00:01:34.000 They're weird, man.
00:01:36.000 They want...
00:01:37.000 I mean, I think all social media, all tech companies want you to toe a line right now.
00:01:42.000 And if you're not toeing that line and you're bringing on forbidden guests and you have people that have controversial ideas, you know, they have that finger on the button of getting rid of you.
00:01:51.000 They don't know what to do.
00:01:52.000 It's just like radio, you know?
00:01:55.000 Like radio...
00:01:56.000 A lot of people don't know, but radio has to play happy songs because happy people buy things.
00:02:01.000 Really?
00:02:02.000 Yeah.
00:02:02.000 Well, that's what the studies say, allegedly.
00:02:04.000 The marketing studies and advertising studies say people who are in a good mood tend to buy things, right?
00:02:09.000 So the radio is supposed to play happy songs all day long.
00:02:13.000 And the radio works for the advertisers, kind of like media and so on and so forth.
00:02:17.000 So social media is no different.
00:02:19.000 They have advertisers.
00:02:20.000 So if there's people on the platform who are creating disgruntled crowds, it could be hurting the bottom line.
00:02:27.000 Yeah, but Facebook's algorithm actually favors that.
00:02:30.000 The way Facebook has it set up, like say if you get into debates with people on abortion or something very controversial, they will start sending that shit to your feed.
00:02:40.000 They will sort of steer it in your direction.
00:02:44.000 Because the more you engage, the more clicks they get, the more money they get, the more advertising dollars they get.
00:02:50.000 Absolutely.
00:02:51.000 Absolutely.
00:02:51.000 The Facebook algorithm is quite unique in the way that things can go viral there.
00:02:58.000 Twitter, I feel like the Twitter Safety and Counsel Board.
00:03:04.000 Yeah, what do they call it?
00:03:05.000 Trust and Safety?
00:03:06.000 Yeah, is that what it's called?
00:03:07.000 Yeah, something like that.
00:03:07.000 Yeah, so when I go and look at the entities that contribute to that board, I kind of start saying, oh, okay, I see why certain topics are taboo.
00:03:18.000 When there's a board...
00:03:21.000 Those people on the board are the voice.
00:03:24.000 They're the ones that have the opinion.
00:03:26.000 So if your group isn't represented, maybe you need to figure out how to get on that board.
00:03:30.000 You know what I mean?
00:03:31.000 Right.
00:03:31.000 I don't know if anybody's getting on that board.
00:03:33.000 Nah, it's not going to happen.
00:03:35.000 And you better be left wing if you're going to get on that board.
00:03:38.000 I don't think there's any right wing people on that board.
00:03:41.000 I think Jack's more like in the middle.
00:03:43.000 Yes.
00:03:44.000 I think he's closer to the middle.
00:03:45.000 I don't think it's Jack.
00:03:46.000 I think it's...
00:03:46.000 Jack's working on a bunch of different projects.
00:03:49.000 But I think it's probably whoever else is in the office making the day-to-day decisions.
00:03:56.000 Yeah, I like Jack a lot.
00:03:58.000 But I think Jack is in the middle of a gigantic corporation.
00:04:02.000 And there's so many people with so many ideas.
00:04:05.000 Essentially...
00:04:07.000 The founding fathers of our country had a great idea when it comes to freedom of expression.
00:04:11.000 They felt like it was very important that you have free speech.
00:04:14.000 And you can't be silenced, you can't be...
00:04:18.000 You can't be undermined by people who disagree with you because it's dangerous.
00:04:22.000 It's dangerous when someone can just decide that you can't have a voice anymore and only their voice can be heard.
00:04:28.000 We're kind of seeing that with Twitter and we're kind of seeing that with Facebook and with Google and they're deciding what could be heard and what not could be heard.
00:04:35.000 They think they're doing it for good reasons.
00:04:37.000 They think they're doing it to preserve our culture and our civilization and they want to protect people from the election.
00:04:43.000 Do you know Reddit shut down the Donald Trump support Reddit page?
00:04:49.000 Yeah.
00:04:50.000 That's not a good idea.
00:04:52.000 Right before the Dem debate.
00:04:54.000 Yeah.
00:04:55.000 Right before the Democratic debate.
00:04:56.000 And, you know, that is like where all the funny memes come from.
00:05:00.000 And look, man, you can't do that.
00:05:03.000 I mean, just because if you have some people that are saying some shit that's bad on there, get rid of those people.
00:05:09.000 Get rid of that.
00:05:10.000 But you can't just shut down a whole forum.
00:05:13.000 Like, it seems, that seems insane.
00:05:15.000 Yeah.
00:05:16.000 Is there a reason for it?
00:05:17.000 It's not shut down.
00:05:18.000 It says it's quarantined.
00:05:19.000 What the fuck does that mean?
00:05:20.000 Does it have a disease?
00:05:21.000 It's sort of like temporary suspension.
00:05:23.000 It's got Ebola?
00:05:23.000 It happens to people.
00:05:24.000 They've got to do something.
00:05:25.000 It says there's violent threats.
00:05:27.000 I'm looking to see what happens.
00:05:28.000 Repeated misbehavior.
00:05:30.000 Violent threats.
00:05:31.000 We'll see.
00:05:34.000 Skeptical?
00:05:34.000 Very.
00:05:35.000 Seems weird, right?
00:05:36.000 I feel like all of this stuff is...
00:05:39.000 We're seeing what the First Amendment is really all about, why it exists.
00:05:45.000 We're seeing it play out with all these social media sites.
00:05:48.000 I really think that.
00:05:49.000 My thing is with the Reddit thing, right?
00:05:51.000 It's very easy to create an actor.
00:05:53.000 The left can create a right-wing actor online to pretend like it's something else.
00:05:59.000 They can go into Reddit...
00:06:01.000 Do something malicious to get the whole Reddit banned, right?
00:06:05.000 Like an agent provocateur.
00:06:07.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:08.000 And I never leave that off the table when I look at instances like this.
00:06:12.000 When I say, oh, somebody was...
00:06:14.000 It's the internet.
00:06:15.000 Everybody's anonymous.
00:06:16.000 You know, how are you tracking this back to who it is?
00:06:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:06:18.000 Do you know it's conservative?
00:06:19.000 Do you know it's a Republican?
00:06:20.000 Are you sure?
00:06:21.000 So, you know, I take these things, these pieces of information with a grain of salt.
00:06:26.000 Yeah, you should.
00:06:27.000 But is this election meddling?
00:06:30.000 It kind of is, right?
00:06:31.000 It's what it feels like.
00:06:32.000 If you're killing a whole sub...
00:06:34.000 Well, it depends.
00:06:36.000 That would be really interesting if it turns out that it was someone from the left that was posing as someone from the right.
00:06:42.000 In order to shut down a forum and pretend there's death threats.
00:06:46.000 I mean, you look at YouTube, right, and what's been happening with YouTube, even just the algorithm.
00:06:53.000 I'm pretty good with keywords.
00:06:54.000 I do SEO and marketing.
00:06:55.000 So when I type in certain keywords to find certain things, I know what's going to come up or what type of content comes up.
00:07:02.000 Now when I type in those keywords, it's like ABC, NBC, ABC, CNN, and I'm like, that's not what I want.
00:07:08.000 They don't even talk about these keywords.
00:07:10.000 What are you talking about?
00:07:11.000 So when you start seeing that, you start thinking about Ingsoc and Orwell in 1984 and socialism and communism and fascism and the degradation of society and a lot of control coming down.
00:07:28.000 In some ways, it's like Was the internet created for freedom or was it created for control?
00:07:36.000 Right?
00:07:37.000 So it's two different pathways.
00:07:39.000 We could probably look at that.
00:07:40.000 But it seems like in many ways, they set us up to be controlled.
00:07:46.000 And they're doing it through monopolies.
00:07:49.000 Google controls search through YouTube and Google.
00:07:54.000 And by what you search, you can think it's the truth, but what did Kanye say?
00:07:58.000 Kanye say, Google lied to you.
00:08:02.000 Kanye says a lot of crazy shit, though.
00:08:03.000 You gotta really think about that.
00:08:05.000 He does.
00:08:06.000 And I like crazy.
00:08:06.000 I do too.
00:08:07.000 I'm a big fan of crazy.
00:08:08.000 I'm a little crazy.
00:08:09.000 A lot of crazy sometimes.
00:08:11.000 So I appreciate his crazy side more than his calm side.
00:08:15.000 Well, great things come from wild thoughts.
00:08:18.000 Right.
00:08:19.000 Exactly.
00:08:20.000 I think the internet was initially created to exchange information and then when it got loose to the general public, they realized what a crazy idea that was.
00:08:28.000 What I think we're seeing right now with the algorithms is that these corporations are influencing these companies to say, hey, When someone's looking for these things, how about you send them over to ABC? How about you send them over to NBC? We want to be able to get the first views on these things.
00:08:44.000 So if someone's searching for that, I don't know how they do it.
00:08:46.000 I don't know whether they have agreements with them.
00:08:49.000 I mean, there's also a lot of copywritten shit that's on there that could get YouTube in some significant trouble if they ever really decided to pursue it.
00:08:57.000 How many videos are on YouTube?
00:08:59.000 YouTube that people have on their channel that are just straight off of Fox News or NBC News.
00:09:03.000 There's a lot of copyright protected content that YouTube is essentially profiting off of.
00:09:09.000 Oh yeah.
00:09:10.000 Yeah, they make a ton of money off of that stuff.
00:09:13.000 So they might have deals where they say, look, we'll send these people to, you know, this first.
00:09:18.000 Yeah, and that's why I say, you know, that's where the control comes in.
00:09:21.000 You know, the advertisers.
00:09:23.000 The advertisers are the ones paying, you know, for the platform to be a thing.
00:09:28.000 It's not us, the users, that are paying for it.
00:09:30.000 YouTube's free.
00:09:31.000 So who's paying, right?
00:09:33.000 They're monetizing us.
00:09:34.000 They're monetizing us, the users and the viewers.
00:09:37.000 Yeah, that's where it gets tricky, right?
00:09:39.000 Because as soon as the advertisers get on board, they say, look, we want to give you money, but this content is not advertiser-friendly.
00:09:47.000 Right.
00:09:48.000 And then they start moving stuff around and demonetizing things.
00:09:52.000 And with demonetization, the real thing that they're doing, in a lot of ways, whether it's intentional or not, is you're influencing what people post.
00:10:01.000 You're asking them to self-censor.
00:10:03.000 Because if you say, hey, you guys want to discuss...
00:10:06.000 Abortion rights or, you know, there's some things that you start discussing them and they will automatically demonetize you.
00:10:13.000 Yeah, well, who was the girl that put out the abortion documentary, right?
00:10:18.000 And they snatched that down.
00:10:19.000 I forget what it's called.
00:10:21.000 I'm bad at memorizing these things, but there was basically an anti-abortion thing that exposed some things about abortion.
00:10:29.000 There was a documentary, and I believe the day it went up, it got shut down.
00:10:32.000 She had to re-upload it.
00:10:33.000 Was it Lauren Southern?
00:10:36.000 Might have been Lauren Southern.
00:10:36.000 Yeah, there's those two cute white chicks that everybody thinks are super racist.
00:10:40.000 Lauren Southern and Tammy.
00:10:42.000 What's the other one?
00:10:42.000 Tammy Lauren.
00:10:43.000 Tommy Lauren.
00:10:44.000 Tommy Lauren.
00:10:45.000 So she did a documentary, but then you have like the James O'Keefe thing where, you know, he put up the exposing YouTube and then that got, you know, obviously they're going to take it down.
00:10:56.000 The most recent one that exposed Google, right?
00:10:58.000 Right.
00:10:58.000 Yeah, I've been asking people about that.
00:11:00.000 I'm like, okay, break this down for me.
00:11:02.000 Is there any way that this could have been deceptively advertised or deceptively edited?
00:11:06.000 It seems to me like they're saying that they're going to manipulate search results and they're going to manipulate the way people see things because of the 2016 election.
00:11:17.000 They don't want that happening again in 2020. That's what it seems when I'm looking at it.
00:11:21.000 Absolutely.
00:11:22.000 That's exactly what it looks like.
00:11:23.000 Could it be doctored?
00:11:24.000 Of course it could.
00:11:26.000 That's always possible.
00:11:29.000 When you go and experience it for yourself, like what I was talking about with doing a keyword search, you start seeing the parallels.
00:11:38.000 And then Uncle Hotep, his channel was doing great, and then the algorithm flipped, and next thing you know, he wasn't making the same money anymore.
00:11:48.000 So it's like, I don't have to go to some doctor video or whatever video to understand this problem.
00:11:54.000 The people around me are being affected by it.
00:11:57.000 This is a primary source.
00:11:58.000 I don't have to look at somebody on the internet.
00:12:02.000 In a way, I don't like playing victim with the topic.
00:12:10.000 It's their platform.
00:12:11.000 Do what you want with it.
00:12:13.000 We choose to be there.
00:12:15.000 We don't have to be there.
00:12:16.000 There's not another game in town, though.
00:12:19.000 It's not.
00:12:19.000 It's weird, right?
00:12:20.000 When you think about how big the internet is, there's only one YouTube.
00:12:24.000 Right.
00:12:25.000 Vimeo and all those other ones, they're great, but...
00:12:28.000 Well, I always relate it to the black community.
00:12:31.000 The black community always say, oh, white people this, white people that, white people this, white people that.
00:12:35.000 They're not giving us opportunity.
00:12:36.000 And it's always like, well, is that the only opportunity?
00:12:39.000 Can you not create your own opportunity?
00:12:41.000 You know what I mean?
00:12:41.000 So I never want to take a victim mentality and say, oh, let's take Google to court, all this stuff.
00:12:48.000 It's like, if you want to do that, that's fine.
00:12:50.000 That's not how I'm looking at this.
00:12:52.000 I'm looking at it long term like...
00:12:54.000 We're good to go.
00:13:14.000 And the other payment platforms for creators.
00:13:16.000 So we're creating tools to circumvent these things.
00:13:19.000 So that's how I look at it.
00:13:20.000 I'm like, oh, Google's doing this?
00:13:22.000 Great!
00:13:23.000 This is a great opportunity here.
00:13:25.000 Let me seize it and let me build it and be the alternative.
00:13:29.000 I love to see that.
00:13:32.000 Is the alternative going to be YouTube and as popular?
00:13:35.000 Of course not.
00:13:37.000 It's just not.
00:13:38.000 But it's still a viable option.
00:13:40.000 You can still communicate with your people.
00:13:43.000 The number one communication tool for an influencer with their community is email.
00:13:48.000 Build your email list, right?
00:13:50.000 People still subscribe to your email list, right?
00:13:53.000 That's not YouTube.
00:13:54.000 That's not Google.
00:13:54.000 That's your email list.
00:13:55.000 That's your contact list.
00:13:57.000 So it's like you can complain about YouTube or Google, but you can build your audience almost anywhere.
00:14:02.000 It depends on how powerful you are.
00:14:04.000 Are you powerful enough to convince people to come to this other platform or to wherever you are?
00:14:09.000 A lot of people are powerful enough to pack a room at $2,000 a ticket.
00:14:13.000 You tell me you can't get somebody to go to another platform for free?
00:14:16.000 Who charges $2,000 a ticket?
00:14:18.000 I mean, a lot of these speakers, you know, like the Tony Robbins type cats.
00:14:21.000 He charges $2,000?
00:14:23.000 I think he charges like $10,000.
00:14:25.000 Yeah, I think some of his stuff is like 10. But he's doing like these week-long events where everybody gets together.
00:14:32.000 I'm going to change your life.
00:14:34.000 Doing karate kicks and shit.
00:14:39.000 Well, that's how you get the bigger check.
00:14:41.000 You got to create a bigger experience.
00:14:42.000 So it's like, all right, so we'll do a one day 2K, right?
00:14:45.000 It's like, well, how do I get 10K? It's like, well, let's just extend it for the week and, you know, add like, you know, the kickboxing class and, you know, we'll chat in the sauna.
00:14:53.000 You just, you know, create that's part of marketing, you know?
00:14:55.000 But, yeah, I'm not complaining about these tech companies, man.
00:15:00.000 I'm not scared of these dudes, man.
00:15:02.000 The content is us.
00:15:04.000 The content is certainly us.
00:15:06.000 What I got from talking to Jack and Vidja was it's almost impossible to manage a site like that.
00:15:14.000 Just the influx of...
00:15:15.000 I used to have a message board on my website.
00:15:18.000 One of the things that I noticed before we shut it down was I was getting...
00:15:22.000 Thousands and thousands of Russian emails that were signing up for my website.
00:15:28.000 Remember that, Jamie?
00:15:29.000 This is years ago.
00:15:30.000 This is like three years ago.
00:15:32.000 I mean, fucking tens of thousands of Russian email addresses were signing up, like similar addresses.
00:15:40.000 It was something like the IRA, something like the Internet Research Agency, which does that, which is responsible for all those Yeah.
00:16:05.000 And I was like, wow, this is fascinating.
00:16:06.000 And then when it also happened, and then it happened with Facebook, and it became a big part of the election, you realize, like, this is like concerted effort to use these platforms to wiggle.
00:16:16.000 So when you're Jack, or you're whoever runs Google, you have to look at that and go, okay, how the fuck do we manage that?
00:16:22.000 I mean, if we're into free speech, we should just let these people manipulate everybody.
00:16:25.000 Right.
00:16:26.000 Yeah, let it be Wild Wild West.
00:16:27.000 I mean, it's...
00:16:29.000 When you have these people that are working for the Russians or even people that are working on the left that are trying...
00:16:36.000 I mean, if there really is someone that's doing that to the Donald subreddit on Reddit, if you're into free speech, you're supposed to allow that, right?
00:16:45.000 You could just create a metric or some sort of mechanism that red flags an account publicly.
00:16:52.000 Right, but I think this is where it gets slippery, right?
00:16:55.000 Because then you're talking about an algorithm.
00:16:58.000 You're talking about manipulating search results.
00:17:00.000 You're talking about...
00:17:01.000 No, not that route.
00:17:02.000 What I'm saying is...
00:17:03.000 I mean, not that route, but this is where it goes, right?
00:17:04.000 If you just keep managing the content.
00:17:06.000 Instead of just...
00:17:07.000 Like someone like Gab, where they just let the content flow free.
00:17:11.000 But obviously, you go there.
00:17:12.000 There's a lot of dumpster fires, man.
00:17:14.000 It's like fucking chaos when you do that.
00:17:16.000 Oh, yeah.
00:17:17.000 Absolutely.
00:17:17.000 Absolutely.
00:17:18.000 Nothing's going to be perfect.
00:17:19.000 I think whenever you see bad, that's good.
00:17:24.000 Oh yeah.
00:17:26.000 Bad is a portal to good.
00:17:30.000 It is an opportunity.
00:17:33.000 To fix something.
00:17:35.000 Because at some point, that problem was going to emerge.
00:17:39.000 It just emerged now.
00:17:41.000 So it's like, oh, wow, okay, here's this problem.
00:17:43.000 The solution every problem lies within a problem.
00:17:46.000 So technically, there is no problem.
00:17:47.000 So let's just go ahead and solve this problem and move on to the next one.
00:17:51.000 I love problems.
00:17:52.000 I love solving problems.
00:17:53.000 I think it's really fun.
00:17:55.000 So when I see a problem, I go, hmm, okay, let's think about this.
00:17:58.000 And sometimes it's not a one-person job.
00:18:00.000 It's a whole committee and a whole bunch of minds have to get together.
00:18:03.000 So when I look at the conservative community, I think about, you have all these minds, but are your minds working to complain or are your minds working to solve the problem?
00:18:13.000 And it seems like the minds aren't working to solve the problem.
00:18:16.000 They're working to complain, right?
00:18:18.000 So, for example, during the early 20th century, early 1900s is due with this newspaper super popular in New York.
00:18:26.000 And he put some inflammatory things about a certain family in New York City and all the department stores boycott the newspapers.
00:18:35.000 He has no advertisers.
00:18:36.000 So they did that to put him out of business.
00:18:39.000 And this gentleman takes the space and gives it to the proletariat or the, you know, small business guys in the area.
00:18:47.000 And he gives them full front page ads, right?
00:18:50.000 Stuff that the department stores couldn't buy.
00:18:53.000 And then what happened was, after the newspaper got a circling like that, the department stores came back and they said, yo, alright, fine, fine.
00:19:02.000 We'll pay.
00:19:02.000 We'll come back.
00:19:03.000 And he said, no, I don't need you anymore.
00:19:05.000 I have people that can do this.
00:19:07.000 I can do this with the people.
00:19:08.000 And his newspaper was successful until the day he died.
00:19:12.000 So when I look at that example that was able to thrive in 1920 or something or 1910 or whatever it was, I look at it and I'm like, if this guy just stood on his laurels, And didn't bow, you know, then why can't we do it as a nation or as a team?
00:19:28.000 You know, I think it's very possible to.
00:19:32.000 So, for example, like when we look at Gap, right, there's a new competitor.
00:19:35.000 I'm not going to mention a name, but it's like they whoever was the establishment created this alternative platform to compete with Gap.
00:19:43.000 There's another purpose.
00:19:44.000 Yeah, you don't want to mention the name?
00:19:45.000 No, screw them.
00:19:46.000 Really?
00:19:46.000 Yeah, fuck them.
00:19:48.000 What's bad about them?
00:19:49.000 They're establishment, right?
00:19:50.000 Oh.
00:19:51.000 So when I look at- So establishment has created another free speech platform?
00:19:55.000 Allegedly.
00:19:56.000 Allegedly.
00:19:56.000 They're just going to collect the data on these people and then sell it off.
00:20:00.000 What makes you think that?
00:20:02.000 Intuition.
00:20:03.000 Hotep's been told you.
00:20:07.000 You should make a shirt.
00:20:08.000 That should be a shirt.
00:20:09.000 Oh, we got a shirt.
00:20:10.000 Hotep's been told you?
00:20:11.000 Yeah, that's our show.
00:20:12.000 Oh.
00:20:12.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:20:13.000 Me and Uncle Hotep, that's our show every Thursday, 8 p.m.
00:20:15.000 Eastern time.
00:20:17.000 So, yeah.
00:20:21.000 I've been calling a lot of these shots and a lot of these things.
00:20:24.000 And there's just certain things that...
00:20:26.000 I'm a tech startup founder, right?
00:20:28.000 Right.
00:20:30.000 It's certain things I can see within a business that the average person can't see.
00:20:33.000 And I'm like, ah, that doesn't make sense.
00:20:34.000 That doesn't look right.
00:20:35.000 And when you see, you know, as a tech startup, it's really hard to get going, right?
00:20:40.000 At first.
00:20:41.000 But when you see like MSNBC, and it's just like, how'd you get all this coverage that fast?
00:20:48.000 Who do you know?
00:20:49.000 You know what I mean?
00:20:50.000 And then you start seeing the influencers that are going over there and pushing them like, oh, these are all the establishments.
00:20:55.000 I see what's going on.
00:20:56.000 What you didn't want, you didn't want an alternative platform.
00:21:01.000 That you didn't control.
00:21:03.000 Okay.
00:21:04.000 So they're creating an alternative platform that they can control.
00:21:07.000 That they can control.
00:21:07.000 Air quotes alternative.
00:21:09.000 Correct.
00:21:09.000 Yeah.
00:21:10.000 Well, I think the writing is on the wall, right?
00:21:12.000 If they look at the...
00:21:13.000 There's only one Twitter.
00:21:14.000 There's only one Instagram.
00:21:16.000 There's only one YouTube.
00:21:18.000 And those are giant.
00:21:19.000 And Facebook is basically the only thing like that, right?
00:21:23.000 I mean, there's really no competitor to Facebook in that space.
00:21:28.000 I mean, there's four of them.
00:21:29.000 They're all trash.
00:21:30.000 Let's be honest.
00:21:30.000 Oh my goodness.
00:21:31.000 It's all trash.
00:21:32.000 Hotep is going off.
00:21:34.000 Facebook trash.
00:21:35.000 I've been saying that for like the past decade.
00:21:37.000 Facebook's trash.
00:21:38.000 I stopped using Facebook a decade ago, right?
00:21:40.000 If I used it, it was just like forced.
00:21:42.000 I use it as a publishing outlet.
00:21:44.000 When I put tour dates or something like that, I put it on Facebook.
00:21:47.000 I don't engage.
00:21:48.000 Right, exactly.
00:21:49.000 So, you know, I can respect that.
00:21:51.000 I don't use Instagram.
00:21:52.000 I left it months ago when Farrakhan got kicked off the platform.
00:21:55.000 A bunch of conservatives got kicked off the platform.
00:21:57.000 I'm like, I don't need this shit neither.
00:21:58.000 So I left.
00:22:00.000 Did you keep your account just in case?
00:22:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:22:02.000 It's bookmarked.
00:22:03.000 I got an automated bot I'm going to set up and all that stuff.
00:22:08.000 So F these platforms.
00:22:11.000 We don't need them.
00:22:12.000 They're not that great.
00:22:13.000 If you look at the story on Instagram, Instagram was a...
00:22:18.000 A lucky project.
00:22:19.000 It was serendipitous, right?
00:22:20.000 Basically, what happened was some kids built a project.
00:22:23.000 It was called Instagram.
00:22:24.000 They were working on a whole bunch of other things.
00:22:26.000 Some popular kids started using the platform.
00:22:29.000 It blew up, and then they passed it on to Facebook.
00:22:31.000 From the very inception, I said this is a very trash product.
00:22:35.000 It's just horrible.
00:22:36.000 Horribly curated, right?
00:22:38.000 It's so horribly curated that Facebook can't even monetize the platform properly, right?
00:22:43.000 But that's a whole other story.
00:22:45.000 But the platform itself and its functionality is stupid.
00:22:49.000 It's just popular.
00:22:50.000 Well, you know what's weird is, like, replying to people and reading replies, like, in the comments.
00:22:56.000 Like, you can't even keep up with anything.
00:22:58.000 No, no.
00:22:58.000 And you can't get all your notifications.
00:23:00.000 The notifications aren't curated properly.
00:23:02.000 It's just, it's like as if they don't care, right?
00:23:05.000 They don't care, right?
00:23:06.000 Is it that they don't care or is it that it got so big so quick and it's stuck in this format?
00:23:11.000 You'd have to kind of reformat the way it's...
00:23:13.000 They don't care.
00:23:14.000 Don't think so?
00:23:15.000 They don't care.
00:23:17.000 They don't care.
00:23:18.000 If you want to build a product for your user, you can do that.
00:23:24.000 If you want to build a product for advertisers, you can do that.
00:23:27.000 They built the product for advertisers and not for users.
00:23:29.000 If they built it for users, you and I will be able to have a conversation on that.
00:23:33.000 Well, isn't it originally, wasn't it Text America?
00:23:36.000 Was that the same thing?
00:23:38.000 Was Text America the original one?
00:23:41.000 That's the one where I have the picture of the prostitute in the bathroom.
00:23:44.000 You mean like where you would text something to...
00:23:45.000 You'd send a photo.
00:23:47.000 You'd send a photo and a text message and it would go up to an internet website.
00:23:50.000 It would be like on a site like Imgur or something, not like a feed where people would follow you like that, was it?
00:23:54.000 No, there was a thing that you would follow.
00:23:56.000 That's where that picture came from.
00:23:57.000 I know that, but I didn't remember it being like a website or anything like that.
00:24:00.000 That was back when there was no applications, man, because I took that from a flip phone.
00:24:03.000 Oh, then that's the big deal.
00:24:04.000 That's the difference.
00:24:05.000 We're on a phone or like a smartphone.
00:24:07.000 Yeah, there was no smartphones back then.
00:24:08.000 And then you would have to go to a website to see all your photos.
00:24:11.000 So you have a young Jamie Page on Text America and all the pictures that you had taken.
00:24:17.000 The first photos on Instagram, a lot of people were, you'd be like, as a photographer, you'd be kind of like shit on if you weren't taking it with your iPhone only.
00:24:24.000 And you were uploading...
00:24:26.000 DSLR photos, you'd be like, oh, you're fucking cheating.
00:24:29.000 Look at you, like that kind of shit.
00:24:30.000 Right, but now it filters.
00:24:31.000 Like, some of these girls, they look like cartoons.
00:24:33.000 They don't even look like humans.
00:24:35.000 You know, what comes down to is like, you know, what shit kahunas, right?
00:24:38.000 So, you know, a lot of people told me, they was like, yo, you missing out on a lot of money on Facebook.
00:24:42.000 You missing out on a lot of Instagram, money on Instagram.
00:24:45.000 My homie's a millionaire off of Instagram and Facebook advertising.
00:24:48.000 And he told me about it.
00:24:49.000 I'm like, yo, I'm not in this for money, bro.
00:24:51.000 I got a message to get across, and I can't get it across on these platforms.
00:24:54.000 They suck, right?
00:24:57.000 But are you going to have the cojones to come and say, I'm choosing my laurels over, I'm choosing my morals over the money?
00:25:06.000 Because there's a lot of people out here that are on the Facebook platform just for money.
00:25:10.000 I spoke to a conservative influencer and brother basically said, I'm trying to feed my daughter.
00:25:17.000 But the stuff he's putting out on Facebook, he doesn't believe in.
00:25:22.000 So he's just doing it for profit.
00:25:24.000 He's doing it for profit.
00:25:25.000 Ooh, that's where it gets weird, right?
00:25:27.000 Because then people are not going to believe you once you say, well, I was doing that for money, but now I'm telling you the truth.
00:25:31.000 But these, I'm talking about, these are the people that everybody believes.
00:25:36.000 I think?
00:26:01.000 I don't go that route.
00:26:02.000 You know what I mean?
00:26:03.000 If I don't like Facebook, I'm not going to use it.
00:26:04.000 If I don't like Facebook, I'm not going to use Instagram.
00:26:06.000 You know, I'm just going to, you know, stick with what I like.
00:26:09.000 I like Twitter and I told people in 2009 when I go to that, I'm Twitter, you know, I deal in marketing.
00:26:14.000 So I always say focus on one channel when it comes to social media, just one channel, unless you have the staff to manage.
00:26:21.000 Well, Twitter's how I found out about you, and that's how I found out about your videos, and I found out about you, and I watched your videos, and if that didn't exist, and the portal for the video, you're putting your videos on YouTube, right?
00:26:32.000 Mm-hmm.
00:26:33.000 I mean, how else would someone get their message out?
00:26:36.000 If you think that these platforms are all trash, if they didn't exist, I wouldn't find out about you.
00:26:40.000 Twitter's great.
00:26:42.000 Twitter's great.
00:26:42.000 Remember, I've never mentioned Twitter, and I think you said all of them are trash.
00:26:47.000 All of them except for Twitter.
00:26:49.000 Twitter's my baby, man.
00:26:50.000 I love Twitter.
00:26:51.000 What do you like so much about Twitter?
00:26:53.000 It's a perfect platform to crowdsource information, number one.
00:27:00.000 Like you said, without Twitter, I wouldn't be sitting here right now.
00:27:03.000 I could have never got to you on Facebook or Instagram.
00:27:06.000 That would have never happened.
00:27:06.000 Maybe Instagram.
00:27:09.000 Most of it is like, hey, one of my friends says, check out this guy.
00:27:12.000 This guy's cool.
00:27:13.000 This guy's interesting.
00:27:13.000 Maybe you should talk to this guy.
00:27:15.000 That's how it usually happens.
00:27:16.000 And then I'll go to your page, and I checked it out, and I saw a lot of interesting conversations you were having, and saw some videos.
00:27:22.000 Well, the thing is, Instagram doesn't allow you to see in my heart.
00:27:27.000 They don't allow you to see in the soul.
00:27:29.000 Twitter, I can really connect with people.
00:27:31.000 How come you can't do that in Instagram?
00:27:33.000 The algorithm, man.
00:27:35.000 Oh, you mean because it hides stuff?
00:27:37.000 Yeah.
00:27:38.000 But once you develop a good following, it doesn't really matter.
00:27:40.000 People will go to your page, they'll go look for you.
00:27:43.000 But how often can you post?
00:27:45.000 On Instagram?
00:27:46.000 How often can you post?
00:27:47.000 Well, you can't do it like Twitter where you can just do it every couple minutes.
00:27:50.000 You see what I'm saying?
00:27:51.000 So if I wanted to, I could go from deep to where my middle-aged white women at.
00:27:57.000 Right.
00:27:58.000 In 15 minutes time.
00:28:00.000 Right.
00:28:00.000 You know, I can take you deep and then I can make you laugh.
00:28:03.000 Yeah.
00:28:03.000 You know what I mean?
00:28:04.000 And I can share, you know, something else.
00:28:05.000 I can share my video.
00:28:06.000 And you can have photos on Twitter just like you could have on Instagram if you really wanted to.
00:28:10.000 I can go live.
00:28:11.000 And so Twitter is great at how they curate the live feature, right?
00:28:18.000 It lands at the top of your phone on mobile, right?
00:28:21.000 It's beautiful.
00:28:22.000 Like they get product.
00:28:24.000 I don't feel like Instagram gets product.
00:28:27.000 But Twitter is...
00:28:29.000 Matter of fact, this is a great time.
00:28:32.000 I brought you my book.
00:28:33.000 I thought that was McDonald's or Burger King.
00:28:35.000 Nah.
00:28:35.000 I was like, what is he eating that garbage from?
00:28:37.000 This is your book?
00:28:38.000 This is my book right here, Twitter Marketing.
00:28:40.000 I brought that for you.
00:28:41.000 It retails on...
00:28:42.000 How to build a cult-like following.
00:28:44.000 Yeah.
00:28:46.000 And that's basically all my secrets on how I got on the Joe Rogan experience.
00:28:51.000 I'm trying to remember who told me about you.
00:28:53.000 I want to give someone the credit.
00:28:55.000 Well, you know, people said to me, you know, you should go on Joe Rogan.
00:28:59.000 So I retweeted it and then it started this firestorm in your mentions and then you followed me.
00:29:03.000 Yeah.
00:29:04.000 And then I retweeted it again.
00:29:05.000 I followed you because someone told me, though.
00:29:06.000 Right.
00:29:07.000 I'm trying to remember who the fuck it is.
00:29:09.000 Oh, it was somebody you knew?
00:29:10.000 Yeah, somebody I knew.
00:29:10.000 Oh, okay.
00:29:11.000 I think it was like a serendipitous thing.
00:29:13.000 I don't even know if they had seen you post that you're trying to get on the podcast.
00:29:17.000 Oh.
00:29:17.000 I think someone had just contacted me and said, hey, check out this guy's shit.
00:29:21.000 Oh, wow.
00:29:21.000 I watched some of the YouTube conversations.
00:29:23.000 It just looked like you were having a good time, but you were talking about serious shit.
00:29:26.000 Yeah.
00:29:26.000 Yeah.
00:29:27.000 It's, you know, so I got kids, so...
00:29:31.000 When I teach my kids, it's always through edutainment.
00:29:34.000 If I can't make my kids laugh while I'm doing my lecture, every day when they come home from school, or I try to do every day, there's a lecture waiting for them.
00:29:41.000 I'm going to talk about something real in life.
00:29:43.000 How many kids do you have?
00:29:44.000 Three.
00:29:45.000 My daughter's 16 and my boys are 10. I have twin boys.
00:29:49.000 Dallas, Phoenix, and Sydney.
00:29:52.000 They're all named after cities.
00:29:55.000 So every day they come home, I have a lecture waiting for them.
00:29:58.000 But when I prepare my lectures for them, I always figure, how am I going to make them laugh?
00:30:04.000 Because my son Dallas, he's very linear in thinking.
00:30:07.000 I could lecture, and he'll sit there and listen to every single word.
00:30:10.000 The other two are like me, though, just like zone out.
00:30:13.000 So your twins, are they identical twins?
00:30:15.000 Fraternal.
00:30:15.000 Fraternal.
00:30:16.000 Yeah.
00:30:17.000 So his brother and his sister, just like me, will all tune out and go into La La Land and start dating.
00:30:23.000 It's got to be weird when you have two kids that were born at the exact same time.
00:30:26.000 They're twins, but yet they're totally different.
00:30:28.000 Yeah, and they look different.
00:30:29.000 That's so weird.
00:30:30.000 One's brown skin, one's light skin.
00:30:31.000 Whoa.
00:30:33.000 Both come out of the box at the same time, too.
00:30:35.000 Yeah.
00:30:35.000 You know, it's a crazy dynamic.
00:30:37.000 Genetics are nuts, man.
00:30:39.000 Yeah, their personalities are very different.
00:30:40.000 That is one of the things that tripped me out the most about having kids.
00:30:43.000 Mm-hmm.
00:30:43.000 It's how does they are their own little person out of the fucking box.
00:30:48.000 Yeah.
00:30:49.000 You influence them a little.
00:30:50.000 You teach them.
00:30:51.000 You can give them morals and ethics, and you can set a good example.
00:30:53.000 But, boy, they come with their own unique set of ingredients.
00:30:56.000 Yeah, they do.
00:30:57.000 Yeah, they do.
00:30:58.000 And, you know, I don't try to change that.
00:31:01.000 All I try to do is push them in that direction.
00:31:04.000 Like, whichever way you're going, I'm just going to try and assist that.
00:31:07.000 You know, I don't try to, like, bring you back this way.
00:31:10.000 So my son Dallas, he likes to draw, you know, and I'm like, all right, well, here's some YouTube videos, tutorials, do it every day.
00:31:16.000 My son, Phoenix, is like, I want to have my own comic book.
00:31:19.000 I'm like, well, start writing it.
00:31:20.000 And he starts writing his comic book.
00:31:21.000 And then he comes and he asks me questions and I help him.
00:31:24.000 We share in the Google Doc and we just do the damn thing.
00:31:26.000 You know what I mean?
00:31:27.000 That's cool.
00:31:28.000 Yeah.
00:31:29.000 They're little startups.
00:31:30.000 So you kind of just got to feed them.
00:31:32.000 That's a good way of looking at it.
00:31:34.000 Yeah.
00:31:35.000 You just got to water them, man, and just let them grow.
00:31:38.000 I think sometimes we try to prune them too much.
00:31:40.000 Well, you definitely see that a lot with people that are too, they're just way too heavy-handed with their kids, and the kids are just always resisting.
00:31:49.000 Oh, yeah.
00:31:49.000 They're just constantly, just get the fuck away from me, man.
00:31:52.000 That shit's unnecessary.
00:31:53.000 It's unnecessary, it's unproductive, and you're gonna develop a rift between you and your kids.
00:31:58.000 Yeah, so this story I always tell is, you know, when you're black and you go in the supermarket, you get that talk like, you better not go in here, you better not touch that, don't ask for nothing, right?
00:32:08.000 So, you know, that's how I grew up.
00:32:09.000 A lot of us grew up.
00:32:10.000 So when I go into the supermarket or I went to the supermarket this one time and my son is Phoenix, my twin, he's running around in the supermarket.
00:32:18.000 And, you know, I try not to yell at my kids and all that stuff, right?
00:32:21.000 So I just tap his brother and sister on the shoulder and I said, look at him, look at him, look at him.
00:32:25.000 And they look, and then we just start laughing at him.
00:32:27.000 So he turns around and goes, like, why are y'all laughing at me?
00:32:30.000 So then I start imitating, doing all that type stuff.
00:32:34.000 And so I put the mirror in front of him.
00:32:36.000 I call it the mirror.
00:32:37.000 And when he does that, never again.
00:32:39.000 It's not a problem again.
00:32:40.000 I didn't have to yell at him.
00:32:42.000 I didn't have to hit him.
00:32:42.000 I didn't have to cuss him out.
00:32:43.000 I didn't have to threaten him.
00:32:45.000 It's just basic psychology.
00:32:47.000 Yeah, that's one of the hardest things for people to do, to see how other people see them.
00:32:50.000 When someone sees you with humor and you look like a fool, like, oh shit, that's me?
00:32:54.000 Damn, that is me.
00:32:56.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:32:58.000 So you just got to put your mirror up.
00:32:59.000 But, you know, Twitter, you know, I handle everything.
00:33:03.000 You know, I figure you can't change culture through lecture.
00:33:06.000 You change culture through entertainment.
00:33:08.000 What do you think about all this talk, like Elizabeth Warren's talked about it and some other candidates have talked about it, some other politicians have talked about breaking up these big companies, breaking up Facebook, it's too big, break up Google, break up Twitter.
00:33:19.000 What do you think about that?
00:33:21.000 Well, I think we have to study what happened to Standard Oil.
00:33:25.000 What happened to Standard Oil?
00:33:26.000 Standard Oil, they broke it up and it became...
00:33:32.000 Exxon, Chevron, Texaco, I think BP. Don't quote me on that one.
00:33:39.000 Does anybody have brand loyalty to gas?
00:33:42.000 Is anybody like, dude, I'm a Chevron man?
00:33:44.000 They create those cards, right?
00:33:47.000 Oh, loyalty cards?
00:33:48.000 Oh, okay.
00:33:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:33:49.000 So that's how they create a loyalty program.
00:33:50.000 Here it is.
00:33:51.000 The evolution of Standard Oil.
00:33:52.000 Jamie pulled it up on the screen.
00:33:53.000 Yeah, there you go.
00:33:55.000 Wow.
00:33:55.000 So Standard Oil was too big.
00:33:57.000 Yeah.
00:33:57.000 Like, fuck this place.
00:33:58.000 Right.
00:33:59.000 We have to move it around a little bit.
00:34:01.000 1911. Standard Oil of...
00:34:02.000 In 1911 they did this.
00:34:04.000 Right.
00:34:04.000 So if you look at it, it's broken up into...
00:34:06.000 I think it says 34, right?
00:34:08.000 34 companies, right?
00:34:09.000 So you see Stardom on the left, right?
00:34:11.000 And then as you go, what do you see?
00:34:13.000 You see a consolidation, don't you?
00:34:15.000 Merged.
00:34:16.000 You see these merges?
00:34:17.000 Yeah.
00:34:18.000 So when you break up a monopoly...
00:34:20.000 You're not really breaking up a monopoly.
00:34:22.000 What you're doing is you're creating a divide and conquer dynamic.
00:34:24.000 So it's like, okay, I'll let my brother control this one, my sister control that one, my cousin control this one, and you actually corner the market.
00:34:33.000 So breaking up a monopoly isn't exactly a good thing.
00:34:37.000 In that case.
00:34:38.000 Yeah.
00:34:38.000 In that case.
00:34:39.000 And I think we'll see the same thing with Google.
00:34:42.000 If we break up Google, what you're going to do is just have little subsidiaries or little satellite things that will just control a certain segment under a different name, which will make it harder to track back to its source.
00:34:53.000 So, you know, when I say, you know, breakup monopoly, I think that the establishment's like, yeah, come on, break me up, baby.
00:35:00.000 Do you think so?
00:35:01.000 Do you think they want it?
00:35:02.000 I don't think they want to lose any control.
00:35:04.000 I certainly don't think Facebook does.
00:35:05.000 It's not losing control, though.
00:35:06.000 They're trying to get rid of Zuckerberg forever.
00:35:09.000 Right?
00:35:10.000 Aren't they trying to get rid of him?
00:35:11.000 The board members are like...
00:35:12.000 That's what they claim, but...
00:35:14.000 Get that robot out of here.
00:35:15.000 Look at the way he drinks water.
00:35:16.000 Right.
00:35:17.000 He does look like a robot.
00:35:18.000 The way he drinks water in front of Congress.
00:35:21.000 But isn't that socialism?
00:35:24.000 That's socialism.
00:35:25.000 When the government comes in and tells you what you can do with your corporation, that's socialism.
00:35:30.000 So what I feel is like the powers that be are pushing socialism are like, we can use this as an excuse to infiltrate corporations and start controlling this internet space.
00:35:43.000 So the internet space is now communist.
00:35:45.000 I'm of the opinion, though, that if we believe in freedom of speech and you create something that's so big that it's essentially a town square, which is what I think these platforms are, if you ban people, especially if you ban people for shit like Learn to Code, Like things that don't make any sense.
00:36:01.000 There's people that are getting banned for some pretty ridiculous ideas.
00:36:04.000 Yeah.
00:36:04.000 That as soon as you start doing something like that, you are going against the fundamental ideas this country has found on.
00:36:11.000 Absolutely.
00:36:11.000 Freedom of speech.
00:36:12.000 I think it's incredibly important that if you have someone saying something that you think is wrong or is hurtful, there should be an avenue where people can examine that and talk about it and combat it.
00:36:26.000 Yeah.
00:36:48.000 Oh, how could you?
00:36:49.000 These people are racist.
00:36:50.000 I don't care if they're racist.
00:36:52.000 That doesn't affect me.
00:36:53.000 I'm not asking them for a job so they can't be racist towards me.
00:36:57.000 You know what I mean?
00:36:58.000 But when you have these groups that people call fringe, I feel like the people that are fringe Are the test for freedom of speech.
00:37:10.000 It's not the people in the middle.
00:37:11.000 It's the fringe groups on the outside.
00:37:13.000 If they don't have freedom of speech, everybody in the middle is screwed.
00:37:17.000 So I stood up and I was like, yo, let these dudes talk.
00:37:19.000 Stop doing that.
00:37:20.000 I don't care if they're racist or whatever.
00:37:22.000 People call me names.
00:37:23.000 But then now you see it coming down.
00:37:25.000 And we lost Louis Farrakhan.
00:37:27.000 He got deplatformed.
00:37:28.000 He lost his verification.
00:37:31.000 Was there anything specifically that he said that allowed him to do that?
00:37:35.000 Did they just make a sweeping?
00:37:36.000 Because they got rid of Milo.
00:37:38.000 They got rid of Gavin McGinnis.
00:37:39.000 They got rid of a bunch of people that were on Instagram and Facebook that they hadn't deplatformed.
00:37:43.000 But it didn't seem like there was anything that happened that caused them to do that.
00:37:48.000 It seemed like they just made some sort of a decision that I think was probably based on preparing for the 2020 election.
00:37:55.000 Absolutely.
00:37:56.000 So what I think what happened was the banning of Louis Farrakhan.
00:38:02.000 It's just a theory, but they were like, all right, if we ban these conservatives, the conservative crowd is going to just go apeshit, right?
00:38:10.000 But if we throw them Louis Farrakhan...
00:38:13.000 It'll kind of settle things down a little bit because it'll look like we're fair.
00:38:17.000 I think you're exactly right.
00:38:18.000 Yeah.
00:38:19.000 So I'm like, so that's what they did.
00:38:20.000 They're like, ah, let's throw them in there and smooth things over.
00:38:23.000 That's exactly what I thought when I saw it.
00:38:25.000 Yeah?
00:38:25.000 Yeah, I was like, this seems weird.
00:38:27.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:38:28.000 It's like they have to justify.
00:38:29.000 Like, no, we got rid of him too.
00:38:32.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:38:34.000 It's a strange time because even though there is Gab and there's Mines and there's a couple other startups that are trying to make their way, the Jordan Peterson one, there's nothing that really stands out.
00:38:48.000 And once a giant group of people starts using something, Unless it's like, what's hilarious is when one of them vanished, like MySpace.
00:38:56.000 How fucking badly did they manage MySpace?
00:38:59.000 Because MySpace had it all.
00:39:00.000 They had everybody.
00:39:02.000 And then it just fucking died.
00:39:04.000 And it's still around, but now it's like some fringe music publishing platform.
00:39:08.000 It's very weird.
00:39:10.000 It still exists.
00:39:11.000 But what Twitter is right now, and what Facebook is right now, and what Instagram is right now, It seems like there's no real competitors, specifically YouTube.
00:39:22.000 There's no real competitors to these people.
00:39:24.000 Because when, you know, I don't want to, you know, dog pod on, you know, minds or gab or anything, but the problem is, when you build a social network, and this is why I will not build a social network, at least not into the next 10 years, you have to understand that you can't build a social network that mimics another one.
00:39:45.000 It has to be different.
00:39:48.000 That's why SNAP is still here.
00:39:50.000 SNAP is inside a certain demographic.
00:39:53.000 That's my daughter's generation.
00:39:55.000 That's them.
00:39:56.000 They're on SNAP. So when you build these things, You really have to sit down and say, like, you know, what are we going to focus on?
00:40:07.000 Like with minds, right?
00:40:08.000 You post videos, you post photos, and then how do the photos appear, right?
00:40:13.000 So when I look at minds, minds is my Instagram.
00:40:16.000 When you look at minds on mobile, the font's really small.
00:40:19.000 So it's like, I can't read this, so I'm just going to use this for photos.
00:40:22.000 When I put the photos, it pops up, right?
00:40:24.000 So it's like, is mine going to go that route?
00:40:28.000 Are they going to go the video route?
00:40:29.000 Are they going to go the tweet route?
00:40:31.000 You got to pick one and then grow from there.
00:40:33.000 If you look at Twitter, Twitter didn't have all these features in the beginning.
00:40:37.000 You just had tweet.
00:40:39.000 That's it.
00:40:39.000 There was no threads.
00:40:41.000 You know what I mean?
00:40:42.000 There's none of that.
00:40:43.000 So you have to start at your core.
00:40:45.000 But the other problem they do is they try to build these social networks.
00:40:51.000 Completely robust, right?
00:40:53.000 With all the bells and whistles of the giants.
00:40:57.000 Nah, bro.
00:40:58.000 You gotta start small and slim and then let your audience tell you what the next feature is.
00:41:04.000 So if you were going to start one up, what would it be?
00:41:06.000 I don't know.
00:41:07.000 Or do you not want to give out that information?
00:41:08.000 No, it's not I don't want to give it out information.
00:41:10.000 I think information should be free, but you know, I... I hate the idea that people want to create social networks.
00:41:17.000 I'm like, they exist.
00:41:18.000 Let's use the ones that exist, and let's just figure out how to make them better, right?
00:41:21.000 But when you do that, then those have so much power because they can dictate who's on and who's not on.
00:41:26.000 Right.
00:41:27.000 So what you do is, when you have something like a Twitter, you use your Twitter to congregate your minds, right?
00:41:34.000 But then your bills of the world, your Andrew Torbers of the world have to listen to the community, right?
00:41:43.000 And then curate their product around what the community needs, right?
00:41:49.000 Andrew Tober figured out what the dissenter, when he found out, oh, the internet is blocking comments.
00:41:55.000 So he created, you know, you can comment on anywhere on the internet, and then Google Chrome smashed it, right?
00:42:01.000 I said, get that out of here.
00:42:02.000 Yeah, why do they do that?
00:42:03.000 What was the justification for getting rid of that?
00:42:05.000 They want to censor information.
00:42:09.000 Is that what they want to do or they want to keep a competitor from using their platform and profiting off of it?
00:42:13.000 That's how I looked at it.
00:42:14.000 I looked at it from a marketing or a business perspective.
00:42:17.000 Nah, I ain't worried about his name.
00:42:18.000 Because it could be, but if it becomes huge, I mean, anything can become huge if it's useful.
00:42:23.000 It seemed useful to me that they were going to be able to comment on anything.
00:42:28.000 You'll have like a little link, and if you use Gab, you can comment on anything that comes up.
00:42:33.000 Yeah, you can look at it like that.
00:42:35.000 I don't.
00:42:36.000 I feel like their budgets are so huge, their cash reserves are so huge that they're not worried about competition at all.
00:42:43.000 You know, what they're worried about is controlling thought.
00:42:49.000 And that's their primary goal.
00:42:52.000 Control thought, right?
00:42:54.000 For the betterment of the ruling class.
00:42:57.000 And that's, to me, that's the end of it all.
00:43:01.000 But these people that create tech products, like when we create CoinBits app, or for example, my app Jiffetize.
00:43:13.000 You can only do one thing on Jifritize.
00:43:15.000 The only thing you can do is save a video or Jif from Twitter.
00:43:21.000 I always call it GIF. Is it Jif?
00:43:23.000 I think it's Jif.
00:43:24.000 I don't think I ever hear anybody say it.
00:43:27.000 GIF could be correct.
00:43:30.000 Could be correct.
00:43:32.000 Do you know what you call it, Jamie?
00:43:33.000 I call it GIF. GIF, GIF. GIF is peanut butter.
00:43:37.000 GIF is peanut butter.
00:43:40.000 But our app does one thing, right?
00:43:44.000 And people love it.
00:43:46.000 When I first came on as a co-founder, this app did more than that.
00:43:51.000 And when it did more than that, it didn't do as well as it does now.
00:43:55.000 What did it used to do?
00:43:56.000 It had incentives to share the app.
00:44:01.000 You could edit GIFs.
00:44:03.000 You could put text on them.
00:44:08.000 Crop them.
00:44:09.000 All types of like...
00:44:10.000 It had an editor in there.
00:44:11.000 So I was like, yo, take this editor, toss it out.
00:44:14.000 Oh, we had a keyboard.
00:44:15.000 You know, it still has a keyboard, but I was like, took some of the functionalities, and I just started taking stuff out.
00:44:20.000 Just like, get this out of here, get this out of here, get this out of here, and slim it down, right?
00:44:23.000 As soon as we slimmed it down, we gave it a new face.
00:44:26.000 Boom!
00:44:27.000 Our revenue quadruple.
00:44:29.000 What's it again?
00:44:30.000 Tell people to get it.
00:44:31.000 Yeah, GIFITIZE. GIFITIZE. There it is.
00:44:33.000 Jamie's got it.
00:44:34.000 Yeah, GIFITIZE. The ultimate Twitter GIF downloader.
00:44:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:44:40.000 And this thing's about to be super huge.
00:44:44.000 We have a gallery coming soon, and that's going to be awesome.
00:44:47.000 It's going to be perfectly curated.
00:44:49.000 I'll speak to my partner Simone this morning about that.
00:44:52.000 That's one of the fun things about Twitter.
00:44:54.000 When someone says something stupid and then you look at all the GIFs underneath it, all the memes and GIFs.
00:44:59.000 Yeah, so we empower people.
00:45:01.000 Black Twitter is on our app.
00:45:03.000 So whenever there's a new video out, something funny happens and you use it as a reaction.
00:45:10.000 So on iOS there's no way to save it.
00:45:13.000 Now you can with our app.
00:45:14.000 But our app only does one thing.
00:45:16.000 Everybody and they love it, right?
00:45:19.000 That's the core of the business.
00:45:24.000 What's the core of minds?
00:45:27.000 What's the core of gap?
00:45:29.000 What's the core feature?
00:45:30.000 Does anybody know?
00:45:32.000 There is not a core feature.
00:45:33.000 Yeah, I would say just something as an alternative to traditional media.
00:45:37.000 You see what I'm saying?
00:45:38.000 Yeah.
00:45:38.000 So there is no uniqueness.
00:45:40.000 Where there is no uniqueness, you can't compete.
00:45:42.000 You have to first create uniqueness or fill a need.
00:45:48.000 There's no need for me to be on these other platforms.
00:45:52.000 The problem is when you get on those other platforms and there's no one there, you go, ah, let me go back to Twitter real quick.
00:45:57.000 Yeah, and that's why I say when you build a social network, before you build a network, I mean, before you build the platform, you have to build a network.
00:46:06.000 Well, it's interesting if you go back to like 2003 when MySpace was king, and then you imagine what the world would be like 16 years later, no one would have saw this coming.
00:46:16.000 No one would have saw all these social media platforms and that it's used as a way of breaking news now.
00:46:23.000 I mean, especially in places that don't have real objective news.
00:46:29.000 So if you're in some country that's some war-torn country and some horrible shit is going down, You see the news breaking on Twitter before anywhere, which is really interesting.
00:46:39.000 Oh, yeah.
00:46:40.000 That's why I tell people, like, screw Facebook and Instagram.
00:46:42.000 The news breaks on Twitter.
00:46:43.000 You know, by the time my friend shows me a video, I'm like, I saw that on Twitter like two weeks ago, bro.
00:46:52.000 Because he's on Facebook or he's on Instagram.
00:46:54.000 Right.
00:46:55.000 So it's like, how do you market a product or market yourself when you're two weeks behind?
00:47:02.000 Is everything two weeks behind on Instagram, though?
00:47:04.000 I get a lot of shit on Instagram, too.
00:47:06.000 But you're Joe Rogan.
00:47:08.000 Yeah, I am.
00:47:10.000 So it's a bit different, you know what I mean?
00:47:12.000 I guess, yeah.
00:47:12.000 And it depends on who you're surrounded by, right?
00:47:14.000 Right.
00:47:15.000 So when we talk about a network, it's like, you know, who are the people connected to you?
00:47:17.000 Who are you following?
00:47:18.000 Who are you interacting with?
00:47:20.000 Right.
00:47:20.000 But I get, like, well, that's not true.
00:47:22.000 I was going to say I get, like, most of the fucked up videos of news stories of bad things that are happening in the news come to me on Instagram.
00:47:29.000 They send it to you.
00:47:30.000 Yeah, but I think it's even.
00:47:31.000 I think it's even with Instagram and Twitter, people sending me things.
00:47:35.000 Well, when you're Joe Rogan, even if you're a Hotep Jesus, people will say to me, how do you know so much?
00:47:41.000 I'm like, yo, my followers send me books and links and stuff like that.
00:47:45.000 They're just sending it to me.
00:47:47.000 Sometimes I ask, sometimes I don't, but they're volunteering information.
00:47:51.000 Yeah.
00:48:15.000 What makes you relevant?
00:48:17.000 Right, right.
00:48:17.000 That's where a lot of people that do content, whether they're podcasters or whatever, they probably should be thinking about developing an email list and putting things on their website, having something available independently of these big platforms.
00:48:32.000 Mm-hmm.
00:48:52.000 I think it becomes like a game of shooting ducks.
00:48:55.000 People get excited about it.
00:48:56.000 They like taking people out, whether it makes sense or not.
00:48:59.000 And I think there's a lot of that going on, where people are calling for people to be deplatformed just because they disagree with them.
00:49:05.000 And so far, these big tech companies have resisted some of it, but not enough of it for my taste.
00:49:13.000 Yeah, yeah, you know, my boy Alex Jones, they got him out of here.
00:49:20.000 I think, you know, if I was Alex, my ego would be so huge after getting deplatformed.
00:49:27.000 Well, when we did a podcast together after he was deplatformed, it was one of the biggest podcasts of all time.
00:49:31.000 Yeah.
00:49:32.000 What did they get, like, 16 million YouTube videos or something?
00:49:34.000 Yeah, that's your highest one, yeah.
00:49:36.000 Meanwhile, YouTube did not demonetize that one.
00:49:38.000 We let them know in advance, just, heads up, Alex Jones is coming on.
00:49:42.000 Yeah.
00:49:42.000 And they just took that money.
00:49:48.000 It's interesting how it works, right?
00:49:50.000 Like, what they choose to deplatform, what they don't choose to.
00:49:54.000 You know, it's...
00:49:57.000 I mean, I don't like the argument that they're doing it for our good.
00:50:00.000 I don't think they are.
00:50:02.000 Who made them God?
00:50:04.000 Who made them mom and said, this is good for you?
00:50:07.000 Do you think they should be forced to follow the First Amendment?
00:50:10.000 No.
00:50:11.000 What do you think they should be forced to do?
00:50:13.000 Nothing?
00:50:13.000 Nothing.
00:50:14.000 I think they should be...
00:50:16.000 Operating in a manner that doesn't hurt Earth.
00:50:19.000 It doesn't hurt nature, right?
00:50:21.000 If they're polluting or doing something that harms somebody specifically, then yes, right?
00:50:28.000 So if they become a giant monopoly just because they're better than everything else that's available like YouTube has become, then they run the show.
00:50:34.000 But there's always the underground.
00:50:36.000 Yeah.
00:50:37.000 Look at hip-hop, right?
00:50:38.000 There's always been an underground in hip-hop.
00:50:41.000 Comedy as well.
00:50:42.000 Comedy as well.
00:50:43.000 You know, so you got dudes, you know, so I was talking to somebody the other day and we were talking about conscious hip-hop and dudes said, oh, there's no money in conscious hip-hop.
00:50:51.000 I'm like, what?
00:50:52.000 Pharoah Monch tours consistently.
00:50:56.000 Dead Prez.
00:50:57.000 Dead Prez tours consistently.
00:50:59.000 They've never had any mainstream attention at all.
00:51:03.000 The closest thing they had to mainstream was when Dave Chappelle's block party.
00:51:07.000 Okay.
00:51:08.000 That was about it.
00:51:09.000 Yeah.
00:51:09.000 So it's like, you don't need mainstream.
00:51:13.000 We don't need mainstream.
00:51:15.000 Here's the thing with mainstream.
00:51:16.000 When you get mainstream, you're that bitch now.
00:51:19.000 You got to play by their rules.
00:51:21.000 You know?
00:51:22.000 And once you break those rules, you get deplatformed.
00:51:25.000 What you need to do is you need to focus on building your own platform.
00:51:29.000 So they can't touch you when you get to a certain place.
00:51:32.000 Say if you were helping me out.
00:51:34.000 I called you in Hotep Jesus.
00:51:35.000 I need some help.
00:51:36.000 Right.
00:51:36.000 What do I do with this platform?
00:51:38.000 This platform right here?
00:51:39.000 This platform right here.
00:51:39.000 Oh, dang.
00:51:40.000 What if they come down on us?
00:51:42.000 So you got to self-host it probably on blockchain.
00:51:46.000 I would definitely, BitChute just locked up.
00:51:49.000 How do I self-host it on blockchain?
00:51:51.000 I don't know.
00:51:52.000 Blockchain is one of those words that I use that I don't really understand.
00:51:55.000 Me too.
00:51:57.000 I just say it because it's a cool buzzword, right?
00:51:59.000 That's a great word.
00:52:00.000 It sounds like if some dude is a tech guy like yourself, is a tech startup, and you start talking about blockchain, I go, oh, yeah.
00:52:06.000 I just nod my head, yeah, blockchain.
00:52:08.000 My friend uploaded MP3 to the BSV network, maybe.
00:52:13.000 Okay.
00:52:13.000 It's just very confusing.
00:52:15.000 And I was trying to ask him, now that it's on there, how are people going to get it?
00:52:19.000 And he wanted to just be the first on there, which he is.
00:52:22.000 It might not be BSV. I might be speaking wrong.
00:52:24.000 Is that your rapper friend?
00:52:25.000 Yes.
00:52:25.000 Okay.
00:52:26.000 Hey, well, he's ahead of this.
00:52:28.000 He's just like him on some of this Bitcoin stuff.
00:52:30.000 But that's where it's at.
00:52:32.000 And I was talking to him for that.
00:52:33.000 He's almost my guinea pig.
00:52:34.000 Like, all right, you did it.
00:52:35.000 How you figured it out.
00:52:36.000 Now, how do I get a three-hour podcast on there?
00:52:39.000 And how are people going to get it?
00:52:40.000 And it's like, it's not figured out yet.
00:52:42.000 People are definitely working on it.
00:52:44.000 And every day there's been advances.
00:52:46.000 I just don't know how it's going to go.
00:52:49.000 I mean, you could build your own cloud.
00:52:51.000 Yes.
00:52:52.000 Build your own cloud and self-host.
00:52:55.000 You know what else you could do?
00:52:57.000 You could connect with all your other celebrity buddies, pool your resources together, and just build a competitor and then own this space and be like, I'm the new YouTube.
00:53:06.000 It's called Rogentube now.
00:53:09.000 You know what I mean?
00:53:10.000 You could do that and then everybody just runs to your platform.
00:53:13.000 I'd support it.
00:53:13.000 I'd have to have a way better name.
00:53:14.000 How do you do that without using Google's cloud services?
00:53:17.000 What you need to do is buy Vimeo.
00:53:18.000 Vimeo's dying on the vine.
00:53:20.000 That bitch is barely alive.
00:53:21.000 So these questions that you ask, right?
00:53:25.000 They own the internet, kind of.
00:53:27.000 Right.
00:53:27.000 Almost.
00:53:27.000 So these questions that you ask, I don't know, I don't code, right?
00:53:30.000 So what we do is we get the best tech minds in the building and we ask them the questions.
00:53:35.000 Hey, answer this.
00:53:36.000 It's not like they can't answer them.
00:53:38.000 They're going to find solutions.
00:53:40.000 There's always a way.
00:53:41.000 You know, just got to put the right minds in the room.
00:53:44.000 The right minds in the room and the right people that are influencers that can get the word out.
00:53:48.000 Yeah, you have to follow the drop on the napkin rule.
00:53:52.000 And, you know, when you put the drop on the napkin, it spreads out, right?
00:53:56.000 So you got to figure, you know, who's your network?
00:53:58.000 And then, you know, maybe build like 12 people around and make sure that these people are linked, you know, based upon interest, right?
00:54:05.000 So then it starts at those interest points or affinities.
00:54:10.000 And then the next tier grows out from there.
00:54:13.000 But as long as that tight-knit group...
00:54:17.000 Alright, so the problem with Gap, right?
00:54:19.000 It's all...
00:54:19.000 People say, oh, it's all Nazis, right?
00:54:22.000 Well, that's that tight-knit group.
00:54:25.000 A tight-knit group of Nazis.
00:54:28.000 Gap should sell a shirt that says that.
00:54:31.000 It's not just that, though.
00:54:32.000 It's not just that.
00:54:33.000 If you have a hundred regular folks and one Nazi, that Nazi becomes the defining factor of the group.
00:54:38.000 Like, oh, there's Nazis in there.
00:54:40.000 Right.
00:54:40.000 So, you know, it's not that at all, but...
00:54:44.000 There is a strong white nationalist movement that first gravitated over there.
00:54:49.000 If he didn't have that, there would be no gab.
00:54:53.000 You think so?
00:54:54.000 I mean, I don't think so at all.
00:54:56.000 Really?
00:54:57.000 Yeah.
00:54:58.000 Like, who would go there?
00:54:59.000 People that got kicked off of Twitter.
00:55:01.000 But the only people that got kicked off Twitter in the early days were the white nationalists.
00:55:04.000 Well, who was the first people?
00:55:06.000 If you go back to...
00:55:07.000 Gavin McGinnis.
00:55:08.000 Yeah.
00:55:09.000 Gavin McGinnis is an interesting character.
00:55:11.000 He does not...
00:55:13.000 He doesn't identify as a white nationalist.
00:55:15.000 No, he does not.
00:55:16.000 And his wife is actually Native American.
00:55:19.000 He's just made some stupid choices.
00:55:22.000 Right.
00:55:22.000 Well, I mean, like Baked Alaska was kind of thrown into that conversation.
00:55:25.000 Yeah, but he's just like a meme maker.
00:55:28.000 Right.
00:55:28.000 He's a guy who makes funny memes.
00:55:29.000 Very funny, right?
00:55:30.000 Yeah.
00:55:30.000 Very entertaining.
00:55:32.000 But I think it comes down to who's dangerous or not.
00:55:35.000 Yeah.
00:55:35.000 Well, the Proud Boys became a dangerous idea because once you have a group and you don't control who joins the group, then assholes can join your group and then your group is made out of assholes.
00:55:45.000 And you're like, well, I didn't want it to be assholes, but you let anybody in.
00:55:48.000 If you let anybody in a group...
00:55:50.000 Yeah.
00:55:50.000 I used to have a joke about vegans about that.
00:55:52.000 The problem with any group is the same.
00:55:55.000 Like, if you get any group of 100 people, if you're in a room with 100 people...
00:55:58.000 Yeah.
00:55:59.000 What's the odds that one of them is going to be a fucking idiot?
00:56:02.000 Well, it's 100%.
00:56:03.000 One of them is going to be a fucking idiot.
00:56:05.000 Well, if you have 300 million people, you're going to have, by odds, 3 million fucking idiots.
00:56:12.000 And the joke was, a lot of them are vegans.
00:56:16.000 It's not that there's anything wrong with vegans.
00:56:19.000 It's with a group, and people just identify.
00:56:21.000 They get in that group, and this is my group, and I'm here to represent.
00:56:24.000 And then, it's just dummies.
00:56:26.000 The thing with the Proud Boys is, the ruling elite are afraid of men.
00:56:30.000 It's a huge soy boy movement coming down the pipe.
00:56:34.000 Soy everywhere.
00:56:36.000 If anybody's listening right now, or everybody that's listening right now, soy is bad for you.
00:56:40.000 It's not good.
00:56:41.000 It is very bad for you.
00:56:43.000 It's processed nonsense.
00:56:44.000 It gives you estrogen.
00:56:45.000 Yes.
00:56:46.000 Well, it activates the phytoestrogens.
00:56:49.000 It has active phytoestrogens that attack the endocrine gland system.
00:56:55.000 Now, when we look at the endocrine gland system, for people in the spiritual world, the endocrine gland system is the physical manifestation of the so-called chakras.
00:57:04.000 Now, at the heart chakra, what we have is called the thymus gland.
00:57:08.000 And the thymus gland is the one that controls your sexual maturity.
00:57:14.000 And when you have an endocrine gland disruptor, your sexual maturity is affected.
00:57:21.000 So a man who would ordinarily like women now likes, you see what I'm saying?
00:57:27.000 But wouldn't you have to have massive quantities of soy for that to take place?
00:57:30.000 That's subjective based upon your biological structure.
00:57:33.000 I always think of it as more as like a fun thing to say.
00:57:37.000 I don't think, you know, eat too much tofu, you turn into a bitch.
00:57:39.000 Well, here's the thing.
00:57:40.000 You can't go in a grocery store and find something that doesn't have soy.
00:57:46.000 When you go look at your Cheez-Its or your crackers, it always says soy lecithin.
00:57:51.000 Soy in everything.
00:57:53.000 Soy everywhere, right?
00:57:55.000 They use it as filler for some meats.
00:57:57.000 So the whole vegan movement, right?
00:57:59.000 You go and you go get your vegan burger.
00:58:03.000 A lot of these burgers are soy-based.
00:58:06.000 A lot of them are plant-based, for sure.
00:58:08.000 Plant-based oils.
00:58:09.000 Right.
00:58:09.000 Which is not good for you.
00:58:11.000 Right.
00:58:11.000 And then you also look at the links between soy and cancer, but that's a whole other story.
00:58:14.000 But when you have something that's disrupting your so-called chakras, you can see how you can start affecting an entire population of people, right?
00:58:24.000 You start affecting their development at an early age.
00:58:27.000 And then, you know, you got these men who are acting like women who can't even, you know, control their wives.
00:58:34.000 You got some men out here that let another man sleep with their girlfriend, right?
00:58:40.000 Out here?
00:58:41.000 I don't know about out here.
00:58:43.000 What are you saying out here?
00:58:44.000 Well, when I say out here, I mean- That's everywhere.
00:58:46.000 Out in the world.
00:58:47.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:48.000 But- But isn't that just people are just kinky and the weird shit?
00:58:51.000 Well, no.
00:58:53.000 No.
00:58:54.000 You don't think so?
00:58:54.000 No.
00:58:55.000 What do you think it is?
00:58:56.000 I think it's pushed.
00:58:57.000 I think debauchery is highly pushed, yeah.
00:59:00.000 By who?
00:59:02.000 The ruling elite.
00:59:03.000 The ruling class.
00:59:04.000 I want to say elite because they're not elite.
00:59:05.000 They really have time to sit around and go, you know what we need to do?
00:59:07.000 We need to push debauchery.
00:59:08.000 Well, when you look at the degradation of Russia, right, before the Bolshevik Revolution, what they do is they come in first with alcohol, right?
00:59:20.000 So they purchase your hops and your barley and they produce alcohol.
00:59:24.000 Then what they do is they sell the alcohol to the farmer on credit because he ain't got no money, right?
00:59:28.000 Because he's been drunk.
00:59:29.000 He hasn't been producing the crops like he should.
00:59:31.000 He falls into credit.
00:59:32.000 He falls into debt.
00:59:33.000 When he falls into debt, he's now a slave to the land he once owned.
00:59:37.000 Now I can sell whatever I want to this population or give this population whatever I want because they are now technically my slave.
00:59:45.000 But in order to rule a nation of people, you have to destroy morality.
00:59:51.000 You have to destroy integrity.
00:59:53.000 So you feed them drugs, alcohol, and sex.
00:59:57.000 And then tear apart the family.
00:59:59.000 But do you think that that's just a natural progression of people's slovenly instincts?
01:00:05.000 Or do you think that's some sort of a grand plan?
01:00:07.000 Do you think people have a slovenly instinct?
01:00:09.000 Some people do.
01:00:10.000 I think some people are lazy, and some people are weak, and some people are greedy, and some people just...
01:00:16.000 They lean towards just pleasure without sacrifice and discipline because it's easy.
01:00:26.000 They just lay in bed and jerk off.
01:00:27.000 I don't think anybody's telling them.
01:00:28.000 I don't think there's any sinister government manipulating their strings that makes them watch porn all day.
01:00:34.000 Well, yeah.
01:00:35.000 Actually, Instagram's a gateway to porn.
01:00:38.000 Instagram, you can't go on Instagram without looking at some booty.
01:00:43.000 Yeah, but it's also a gateway to sunsets and people's kids and muscle cars and a lot of cool shit.
01:00:49.000 Come on, Joe.
01:00:50.000 Anybody going on Instagram?
01:00:51.000 Look at that sunsets.
01:00:53.000 People are going on Instagram and look at booty.
01:00:55.000 There's a lot of that.
01:00:56.000 The yoga community has went from, hey, check out my bakasana to check out my backside.
01:01:04.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that.
01:01:04.000 In these yoga pants, right?
01:01:06.000 A lot of yoga pants pics.
01:01:07.000 Booty.
01:01:08.000 Booty.
01:01:08.000 Booty.
01:01:09.000 Just booty alone is an industry.
01:01:11.000 It is a giant industry.
01:01:13.000 On Instagram.
01:01:13.000 Yeah.
01:01:14.000 So what happens is you wake up in the morning, you check your notifications, then your homie tags you, yo, look at this chick.
01:01:22.000 Boom!
01:01:23.000 Right.
01:01:23.000 Now you have an erection.
01:01:24.000 What's the first thing you do?
01:01:25.000 You're like, ah, let me go to my browser, open an incognito browser and hit Pornhub.
01:01:29.000 Boom!
01:01:30.000 Now you out of here, right?
01:01:31.000 Now your day's done.
01:01:32.000 You just depleted your energy, right?
01:01:34.000 And this is coming out of my book where I talk about, you know, why you shouldn't jerk off and all that stuff.
01:01:37.000 You write that you shouldn't jerk off?
01:01:39.000 Yeah.
01:01:40.000 Never?
01:01:41.000 Well, there's a calculation.
01:01:45.000 You have a jerk-off algorithm?
01:01:47.000 Yeah, there's a jerk-off algorithm.
01:01:49.000 It's created by the Taoist sexology.
01:01:54.000 And I think it's your age times 2. No, your age divided by 2 times 100. I forget what it is.
01:02:01.000 It's in my book.
01:02:01.000 I can't remember it.
01:02:02.000 But I got it from the Tao, right?
01:02:04.000 Which is why I don't have it memorized.
01:02:06.000 Age times.2.
01:02:08.000 I think it's age times.2.
01:02:11.000 And then to tell you how many days, right?
01:02:13.000 So at my age, I'm 38 now, my age, it's about seven and a half days between ejaculation to maintain who I am.
01:02:21.000 Really?
01:02:22.000 Yeah.
01:02:23.000 Damn.
01:02:23.000 Yeah.
01:02:24.000 So a man's strength is his balls, right?
01:02:27.000 Right.
01:02:28.000 So every time you deplete yourself, you're not the same man anymore.
01:02:31.000 You lose your superpowers.
01:02:32.000 Right.
01:02:34.000 Now, when you lose your superpowers to some, you know, IG model, it's not even worthy.
01:02:42.000 Your orgasm doesn't feel the same as a natural interaction with a woman.
01:02:47.000 Right.
01:02:47.000 You know what I mean?
01:02:48.000 True.
01:02:53.000 So you're wasting a percentage of your vital energy?
01:02:56.000 Your vital energy, as well as the proteins and minerals and zinc and magnesium and all that stuff that, you know, is lost.
01:03:03.000 Yeah, you know, I think it's equivalent to like two New York strips, steaks, eggs, oranges and apples or something like that.
01:03:08.000 Really?
01:03:09.000 Oh yeah, it's a lot of vitamins.
01:03:11.000 Depends on the size of the loads you shoot though, no?
01:03:13.000 Oh yeah.
01:03:16.000 That's why ladies should swallow.
01:03:19.000 Whoa!
01:03:19.000 Jesus, ladies.
01:03:20.000 I'm sorry.
01:03:22.000 That's why you should ingest it if the man is healthy because it's a full meal.
01:03:29.000 It's a full meal.
01:03:30.000 It's a full meal of nutrients that a man loses.
01:03:34.000 Is it vial available that way?
01:03:37.000 I wonder if anyone's done studies.
01:03:38.000 I bet they have.
01:03:39.000 I bet people have done like nutrition slash load studies.
01:03:42.000 There's probably a startup out there like trying to do this right now.
01:03:45.000 Yeah, like calculate it into an app.
01:03:51.000 Where's this conversation gone now?
01:03:53.000 I totally forgot what we were talking about.
01:03:54.000 Well, we're talking about manipulating you, turning you into a soy boy, making people weak.
01:03:59.000 You think there's actual, this is where we differ.
01:04:01.000 You think there's actual manipulation taking place.
01:04:04.000 I think it's just natural instincts.
01:04:06.000 And then I think that people see it around them and then they cater to those natural instincts and then they support those natural instincts.
01:04:14.000 But I think people have a natural instinct to be undisciplined and lazy and Just gratuitous and, you know, dive into pleasure before sacrifice and commitment and discipline.
01:04:25.000 So are we making excuses for it?
01:04:26.000 Not making excuses.
01:04:27.000 I think it's also the softness of the world we live in.
01:04:31.000 Oh, yeah.
01:04:32.000 I mean, we live in this incredibly easy to get by in world.
01:04:35.000 Right.
01:04:36.000 You know, where the poor people are fat.
01:04:38.000 Yeah.
01:04:39.000 There's never been a time in history where poor people are fat.
01:04:41.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:04:42.000 That comes down to what's in the actual food.
01:04:45.000 Yeah.
01:04:45.000 So-called food.
01:04:46.000 It's certainly that.
01:04:47.000 It's certainly the food is garbage.
01:04:48.000 But it's also that there's this strange lack of discipline because it's not necessary.
01:04:55.000 All you have to do is just show up to your job, put in the least amount of effort you can without getting fired, and you can exist.
01:05:01.000 Right.
01:05:02.000 That didn't happen in the wild world when people are hunters and gatherers.
01:05:06.000 If you didn't put 100% effort, if you didn't really struggle, you didn't make it.
01:05:09.000 You weren't a benefit to the tribe and they kicked your ass out and you got eaten.
01:05:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:05:14.000 Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be.
01:05:15.000 I do agree with that.
01:05:16.000 Yeah.
01:05:16.000 I do agree with that.
01:05:18.000 Discipline is, you know...
01:05:36.000 I know.
01:05:42.000 That's a weird thing about Twitter, isn't it?
01:05:44.000 That it's a giant platform, but they allow porn.
01:05:46.000 Yeah.
01:05:47.000 You know, when I had Jack on with Tim Pool, I think Tim Pool didn't even know that porn was legal on it.
01:05:52.000 Yeah, I saw that.
01:05:53.000 I saw that, yeah.
01:05:54.000 I found a little bit of information.
01:05:57.000 I don't know how accurate it is.
01:05:58.000 About 10 pools Twitter use?
01:05:59.000 No, on the ejaculation frequency.
01:06:01.000 Okay, yes.
01:06:02.000 Recommended by the Taos.
01:06:03.000 Yeah, here we go.
01:06:04.000 It said, the most respected of the Tao theorists, Sun Simiao, quoted above, recommends ejaculation no more than once every 20 days for men over 50. Oh, Jesus.
01:06:14.000 And no more than once every 100 days for men over 60. I should be dead.
01:06:20.000 Okay.
01:06:20.000 Because I should have no energy.
01:06:22.000 How am I getting everything done?
01:06:23.000 You're getting age retarding hormones as you're about to ejaculate and then there's a level you want to keep before you ejaculate.
01:06:32.000 So you've got to balance before you excrete the hormones.
01:06:36.000 That's what it's saying.
01:06:37.000 So tantra.
01:06:38.000 Yeah, I think so.
01:06:39.000 You're supposed to come internally.
01:06:42.000 There's a level you can optimize yourself.
01:06:44.000 Injaculation.
01:06:45.000 Those people are out of their fucking minds.
01:06:47.000 I'm trying to get rid of this shit.
01:06:49.000 I've always said that it helps you think.
01:06:51.000 Because too many times with a man, your mind is clouded by sexual desire.
01:06:56.000 If you can just jerk off and then you can think clearly.
01:06:59.000 I always have a bit about it.
01:07:01.000 I say jerk off first, then think about it.
01:07:03.000 Like if you jerk off and then you want to call a girl, it's because you love her.
01:07:07.000 You're not just trying to fuck.
01:07:08.000 You actually like her as a human being.
01:07:11.000 You want to be around her.
01:07:12.000 You don't just want to be around her for sex.
01:07:14.000 You actually...
01:07:15.000 Really love her.
01:07:16.000 Yeah, I think there's a level of discipline, right?
01:07:20.000 Yeah, if you're about to make that risky text message, you might want to shoot your load and reassess it.
01:07:28.000 That's what I'm talking about.
01:07:29.000 And you're like, what the fuck?
01:07:30.000 I'm going to watch a fucking documentary.
01:07:32.000 Put that phone down.
01:07:33.000 But that's for an undisciplined man.
01:07:36.000 Yes.
01:07:36.000 Right?
01:07:37.000 So a disciplined man is going to say, no, I'm not going to send this thirst trap, you know, this thirsty comment.
01:07:44.000 I'm going to stay disciplined in who I am because in order to get the woman, I have to stay away from the woman.
01:07:51.000 In order to get the woman, I have to stay away from the woman.
01:07:53.000 Yeah.
01:07:54.000 And keeping your vital man energy, for me, keeps me on edge.
01:08:03.000 I'm always like an animal.
01:08:05.000 You know what I mean?
01:08:06.000 Because I want to release.
01:08:08.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:08:09.000 So what I do is I'll work up that energy and then channel it into work.
01:08:17.000 I'll just immediately pull my laptop out and just bang out because it's like that frustration there and then just you got to release it that way or I'll go running or I'll go work out.
01:08:25.000 But when I get around women with a full sack, I'm not the same as when I'm empty.
01:08:34.000 Yes.
01:08:35.000 And you can see the difference in how they're attracted.
01:08:37.000 You sit up different.
01:08:39.000 Your chest pokes out.
01:08:40.000 When you're around other men, you're like a little bit more...
01:08:43.000 Edgy.
01:08:44.000 Yeah.
01:08:45.000 Yeah.
01:08:45.000 You know what I mean?
01:08:46.000 After you blow your load, you're kind of like...
01:08:48.000 Chilled out.
01:08:49.000 Yeah.
01:08:50.000 Non-competitive.
01:08:51.000 Non-competitive.
01:08:52.000 Yeah.
01:08:52.000 Interesting.
01:08:53.000 You hold on to that.
01:08:54.000 Like fighters.
01:08:55.000 You know how to fight a fighter.
01:08:56.000 Mike Tyson never did that.
01:08:58.000 Mike Tyson said, no, I always like to come as much as possible if I'm not distracted.
01:09:04.000 He'd just shoot his loads and then beat the fuck out of everybody.
01:09:07.000 But I think Mike had a lot of extra loads.
01:09:09.000 I think if you had a guess...
01:09:12.000 His level, he was just an ultra man.
01:09:15.000 He was not a regular man.
01:09:18.000 It says, A research published by the U.S. National Library of Medicine and National Institutes of Health found that after seven days of not ejaculating, men's testosterone levels reached 145.7% of the baseline.
01:09:30.000 Bam!
01:09:31.000 The interesting thing is...
01:09:33.000 That they didn't observe significant fluctuations from the baseline on days 2 through 5. The research also showed that the peak levels were at day 7. Yeah.
01:09:44.000 Risks, Tao.
01:09:46.000 It's actually Tao, by the way.
01:09:47.000 It's T-A-O. You say it as Tao.
01:09:50.000 The Tao of Jeet Kune Do.
01:09:52.000 Risks of too frequent ejaculation when sex is performed with the recommended Tao frequency.
01:09:58.000 It becomes an inexhaustible source of energy, like a well that never runs dry.
01:10:03.000 Yeah.
01:10:04.000 However, when ejaculation frequency exceeds the capacity of the body to fully replenish the semen, man can experience chronic fatigue, low resistance, loss of sex drive, loss of focus, and irritability.
01:10:17.000 Long-term excessive ejaculation can cause chronic low zinc conditions, which can cause chronic fatigue, mental confusion, and significant loss of sexual drive.
01:10:27.000 But what if you're with a freak like that girl Will Harris was talking about?
01:10:31.000 My friend Will Harris was in here the other day, and he was saying he...
01:10:34.000 He needs to meet these girls and go overseas.
01:10:36.000 Oh, it's also considered harmful to ejaculate when ill, drunk, or gorged with food.
01:10:41.000 Whoa.
01:10:42.000 Here's the next line.
01:10:43.000 Oh, which one?
01:10:45.000 Ejaculation control and discipline is not to be confused with the frequency of sex.
01:10:50.000 There are significant physiologic...
01:10:53.000 Phys...
01:10:54.000 What's that word?
01:10:55.000 Physiological?
01:10:55.000 I don't think there's supposed to be a period there.
01:10:57.000 Oh, physiologic and therapeutic benefits to having sex.
01:11:01.000 Frequent sex and decourse maintains a man's interest in the acts as well as his capacity to continue indefinitely until his partner is fully satisfied.
01:11:11.000 So they're saying fuck but don't cum.
01:11:13.000 Yes.
01:11:13.000 Those people are out of their fucking mind.
01:11:15.000 I cum every time I fuck.
01:11:16.000 Yo, I used to...
01:11:18.000 Trying to get rid of this stuff.
01:11:19.000 I used to fuck with girls.
01:11:20.000 I used to fuck with girls' heads like that.
01:11:22.000 We would not come?
01:11:23.000 Yeah.
01:11:23.000 Really?
01:11:24.000 They start crying.
01:11:25.000 Wow.
01:11:26.000 I had a girl straight down and break up crying.
01:11:28.000 I can't please you.
01:11:29.000 Is it me?
01:11:30.000 Is it not?
01:11:31.000 I'm just like, no.
01:11:31.000 I just wanted you to be happy.
01:11:33.000 How do you feel?
01:11:33.000 I feel good.
01:11:34.000 Good.
01:11:35.000 Then I go and I hit the laptop and it just turns them on.
01:11:38.000 Oh, really?
01:11:39.000 Oh, yeah.
01:11:39.000 They love that.
01:11:40.000 They love that.
01:11:40.000 Right.
01:11:41.000 Because nature wants them to get you to come.
01:11:44.000 Yes.
01:11:44.000 Women only respect a disciplined man.
01:11:48.000 That's true.
01:11:49.000 Once a woman can drop your defenses, she's no longer attracted to you.
01:11:54.000 If she can control you, she's not attracted to you.
01:11:56.000 A woman wants a man she can chase.
01:11:58.000 In my book, I talk about how women are the apex predator.
01:12:00.000 They're the ones that chase after sex.
01:12:02.000 I mean, they can have sex endlessly, right?
01:12:04.000 Once we're not, it's like we're pretty much done.
01:12:06.000 Like, give me a couple of minutes to recharge.
01:12:08.000 But it could keep going.
01:12:09.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:12:10.000 So they're, you know, technically like, you know, freaks or whatever.
01:12:14.000 But just because she's undisciplined in her sexual energy doesn't mean you have to be.
01:12:20.000 And if she feels like she has to go outside of the relationship to go get her fix, that's on her.
01:12:25.000 That has nothing to do with you.
01:12:27.000 Your aspirations as a man are higher than sex.
01:12:30.000 A woman's role is to create life and support the man.
01:12:34.000 The man's role is to create or forge in the future of humanity, building things and innovating.
01:12:43.000 It is true that a woman is not attracted to a guy without discipline.
01:12:46.000 Correct.
01:12:47.000 Men who are lazy and weak, that is a giant turn off to a woman.
01:12:51.000 But if a woman is hot, she could be pretty lazy.
01:12:54.000 Right.
01:12:55.000 Absolutely.
01:12:56.000 They are the laziest people of us.
01:12:57.000 But we don't care.
01:12:58.000 Men don't care.
01:12:59.000 I don't care if a girl's lazy.
01:13:00.000 She's hot.
01:13:02.000 As long as her body holds up.
01:13:03.000 Unless she can get to the gym.
01:13:05.000 I used to make girls work to get me, man.
01:13:07.000 Really?
01:13:07.000 Yeah, like, you know, I would say, you know, I'm working on this project, you know, I'm going to send you a spreadsheet over.
01:13:12.000 I need you to go organize it.
01:13:13.000 And if she'd say no, I'd just be like, all right, well, you're worthless to my life.
01:13:17.000 I need somebody that's going to build with me.
01:13:19.000 What if she's building on her own shit?
01:13:22.000 Fuck her shit.
01:13:25.000 Go build your shit.
01:13:26.000 If you need help, I'll help you.
01:13:28.000 So you want a partner.
01:13:31.000 You don't want just a lover.
01:13:32.000 That's what you're saying.
01:13:33.000 No.
01:13:34.000 No.
01:13:35.000 You want someone to help you?
01:13:36.000 No.
01:13:37.000 I want her to prove her worth.
01:13:38.000 Whoa.
01:13:39.000 She got to be worthy to get me.
01:13:41.000 Like, you know, it's easy to get a girl.
01:13:43.000 It ain't easy to get a good man.
01:13:45.000 You're only going to find one hotel Jesus in your life.
01:13:47.000 I could find a ton of you, shorty.
01:13:49.000 Wow.
01:13:50.000 You everywhere on Instagram.
01:13:51.000 After Joe Rogan, they're going to be everywhere.
01:13:57.000 Now, some would say that that's a sexist generalization.
01:14:02.000 Sure.
01:14:02.000 Sure.
01:14:03.000 I don't care.
01:14:04.000 We can have that conversation.
01:14:06.000 Bring me on your platform.
01:14:07.000 We can talk.
01:14:08.000 If you want to call it sexist, it is what it is.
01:14:11.000 Have you ever had a conversation with a radical feminist about this kind of thinking?
01:14:14.000 No.
01:14:14.000 They won't talk to me.
01:14:15.000 They all block me.
01:14:16.000 They block you?
01:14:17.000 Yeah, they all block me.
01:14:19.000 The whole black left feminist.
01:14:22.000 The reason why they block me is because they can't beat me.
01:14:25.000 When we have conversations, I'm so objective that it's too dangerous for them to engage with me.
01:14:31.000 How so?
01:14:32.000 Because I'll be like, it's sexist.
01:14:34.000 Yes.
01:14:34.000 And?
01:14:35.000 So let's continue the conversation.
01:14:37.000 And then that's where they don't want to go.
01:14:40.000 Right.
01:14:40.000 Because then they're going to have to provide reinforcement and evidence and they're dealing with an educated man and I'm going to come with my evidence and facts.
01:14:47.000 So you don't have a problem being sexist.
01:14:49.000 That's what the problem is.
01:14:50.000 Because if someone calls you sexist and you go, yeah, yeah, I'm sexist.
01:14:54.000 Yeah.
01:14:54.000 Yeah, it is what it is.
01:14:55.000 It's like if somebody called me racist, sure, whatever.
01:14:57.000 I don't care what your opinion is.
01:14:59.000 I don't care about these isms that you create.
01:15:02.000 I understand nature.
01:15:03.000 I understand myself.
01:15:05.000 That's an interesting thing that I see today that I find really strange, is that people that are denying evolutionary biology, I mean, there's...
01:15:14.000 Decades of research being done, why people behave the way they behave, what women are attracted to, what men are attracted to, and what the spectrum is.
01:15:21.000 And then they say, science is racist.
01:15:24.000 Yeah, that's what's weird.
01:15:25.000 Science is sexist, or fuck your science.
01:15:28.000 That's fucking fascinating to me.
01:15:31.000 When people don't want to look at it because it doesn't support their ideology.
01:15:34.000 They want to deny all this research, deny all these really objective geniuses that have been studying all this stuff.
01:15:41.000 The best minds in the field have come to these conclusions based on just… Insurmountable amounts of data.
01:15:49.000 Not interested.
01:15:50.000 Yeah, so fine.
01:15:51.000 The patriarchy.
01:15:52.000 Yeah, I have a shirt that says, I am the patriarchy.
01:15:57.000 You know, like, no matter what you throw at me, I'm just going to embrace it.
01:16:00.000 I'm going to show you, yeah, it's real.
01:16:01.000 There is a patriarchy.
01:16:02.000 There's also a matriarchy.
01:16:04.000 You need to handle your matriarchy and stop worrying about the patriarchy.
01:16:07.000 Because if you handled your matriarchy, the patriarchy wouldn't be your problem.
01:16:11.000 Your problem is you don't know how to be a woman.
01:16:14.000 What do you think is a good piece of advice for women on how to be a woman?
01:16:17.000 A good piece of advice on how to be a woman?
01:16:19.000 Hotep teaches women.
01:16:22.000 Hotep teaches women.
01:16:23.000 What's a good piece of advice?
01:16:24.000 Emotional control.
01:16:25.000 Emotional control.
01:16:28.000 So the number one problem I see with women is...
01:16:31.000 Damn, this is a lot here, right?
01:16:35.000 All right, let's go here.
01:16:37.000 Okay.
01:16:39.000 Women let their friends...
01:16:41.000 They tell their friends their business.
01:16:43.000 Yes.
01:16:44.000 Stop that.
01:16:45.000 Stop telling your friends your business.
01:16:47.000 When I have problems with my girl or in the past when I had problems with women, I ain't run back, yo, guess what, man, yo, yo, man.
01:16:56.000 We don't do that.
01:16:57.000 If my friends do that, they better be laughing.
01:17:00.000 Right.
01:17:01.000 If my friend goes, dude, you're not going to believe what this chick said to me.
01:17:05.000 They give me a hard time about it.
01:17:06.000 But if they go, dude, I don't know, man, she wants me to quit my job.
01:17:08.000 Like, hey!
01:17:10.000 Don't do that to me, man.
01:17:11.000 Don't put that shit on me.
01:17:13.000 Yeah, you know?
01:17:14.000 So, I think women...
01:17:16.000 Also, you have to understand that they're giving this information to a friend who is also single.
01:17:23.000 When a woman gets in a relationship, she loses a friend, right?
01:17:27.000 Because now you have less time to spend with your bestie.
01:17:29.000 So, the bestie's jealous of the relationship.
01:17:31.000 So, whenever you go back and tell her, she's never going to give you sound advice.
01:17:34.000 True.
01:17:35.000 She's always going to take your side.
01:17:36.000 Yep.
01:17:36.000 So you have to judge your friends and say, well, if I'm giving this information to my friend, is she an objective friend or is she a subjective friend?
01:17:42.000 She's going to feed my ego.
01:17:43.000 And if you can't analyze that on your own, then you'll never have peace in your relationship.
01:17:48.000 Because the worst thing to do is, here's the problem, the relationship's built on trust.
01:17:51.000 So if a man and a woman come together and you tell all my business to your friend, where's the trust?
01:17:55.000 Where's our privacy?
01:17:57.000 We have none.
01:17:58.000 Right, we have none.
01:17:59.000 We don't have a relationship.
01:18:00.000 You have a relationship with your friend.
01:18:02.000 So go be with your friend.
01:18:04.000 I don't got time to be, you know, something happens in my personal life, I'm going to go tell this strange girl what happened in my personal life, something I told you that was private, to relate it to something else that could be happening in our relationship.
01:18:16.000 You know what I mean?
01:18:17.000 Yeah, but I think we have different instincts.
01:18:19.000 Women have the instinct to gossip.
01:18:20.000 They love it.
01:18:21.000 It comes from that hunter-gatherer culture, where back in the day, that's what happened.
01:18:26.000 The men would go out and try to hunt the food, and the women would stay home, and they would talk shit.
01:18:30.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:18:31.000 Yeah.
01:18:32.000 Again, discipline yourself, women.
01:18:34.000 Yeah.
01:18:34.000 Discipline yourself, ladies.
01:18:35.000 Another thing, get a hobby, a healthy one.
01:18:38.000 Women don't have hobbies.
01:18:40.000 Their hobbies are all in consumerism.
01:18:42.000 Some women don't have hobbies.
01:18:44.000 All of them.
01:18:45.000 Not all of them.
01:18:46.000 I know women with hobbies.
01:18:47.000 All of them.
01:18:48.000 That's not true.
01:18:49.000 That's not true.
01:18:51.000 But, you know, in my book, I say, you know, say all because it gets the people going.
01:18:55.000 Right.
01:18:55.000 It gets them upset.
01:18:56.000 Yeah, it gets people going because they always go, oh, I know it's some.
01:18:59.000 It's like, I know it's some, you moron.
01:19:00.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:19:01.000 But I say all just to get the people going.
01:19:03.000 But majority women don't have hobbies, you know?
01:19:07.000 Why do you think that is?
01:19:09.000 Because they're inundated with advertising.
01:19:11.000 Their hobbies become consumerism.
01:19:15.000 Retail, therapy, or I do makeup for fun.
01:19:18.000 No, you don't do makeup for fun.
01:19:20.000 That's not what you do.
01:19:21.000 That's not a hobby.
01:19:22.000 Makeup's not a hobby.
01:19:23.000 I'm sorry, ladies.
01:19:25.000 A hobby is something that develops your individual person, something that makes you better.
01:19:30.000 Some kind of a discipline.
01:19:32.000 An art form.
01:19:33.000 Right.
01:19:34.000 Some way to express yourself.
01:19:35.000 Some physical thing that you do.
01:19:37.000 Yeah.
01:19:38.000 So like one of my hobbies is chess, right?
01:19:40.000 That helps me focus.
01:19:41.000 When I see that my attention span is getting short because I spend too much time on social media, I go to chess and I'll spend time on chess.
01:19:50.000 To bring that back to reality.
01:19:52.000 Do you play physical chess or do you play online?
01:19:54.000 Online.
01:19:55.000 I can do OTB, but I do most of them.
01:19:58.000 What's OTB? Over the board.
01:20:00.000 Oh, what does that mean?
01:20:01.000 That means physical.
01:20:02.000 Oh, that's what you call it?
01:20:03.000 Yeah, it's called OTB. Do you do speed chess where you hit the timer or do you do regular chess?
01:20:07.000 Well, online I do speed chess.
01:20:09.000 I do five minute games.
01:20:11.000 That's impressive.
01:20:12.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:20:13.000 It's a whole other world.
01:20:14.000 I've been scared of chess.
01:20:15.000 I've always been scared of chess.
01:20:16.000 I have an obsession with games.
01:20:18.000 I have real problems.
01:20:19.000 And chess is one of...
01:20:21.000 I've played it a little bit, but I'm like, fuck, this could take over my life.
01:20:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:20:27.000 If I'm not careful, I'll be sleeping and playing chess.
01:20:34.000 Sometimes I'll be chilling, like we'll be having a conversation, and I'll space out and be doing chess problems in my head.
01:20:40.000 So that happens sometimes, a lot.
01:20:44.000 Especially on days that I play a lot of chess.
01:20:46.000 I remember Howard Stern was really getting into chess, and he was taking private lessons, and he was talking about it all the time, and I think he found the same thing.
01:20:52.000 Do you remember that?
01:20:54.000 I think he found the same thing.
01:20:55.000 I think he just got too obsessed with it and was like, I can't fucking do this anymore.
01:20:58.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:20:59.000 Well, one of my life goals is to be a chess master one day.
01:21:02.000 Really?
01:21:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:21:03.000 And when you say chess master, what do you have to do to be a master?
01:21:06.000 Okay, so you have National Master, then you have International Master, and then you have Game Master, or the GM, I forget what it's called.
01:21:15.000 National Master, you have to participate in, I believe, one of the tournaments, one of the, I forget the Federation, but you have to enter one of these tournaments, and you have to place a certain...
01:21:27.000 I think it's maybe top two or top three at a certain tournament.
01:21:31.000 Don't quote me on this stuff.
01:21:32.000 But you have to go through the tournaments.
01:21:34.000 And I think in order to become international, you have to first become national master.
01:21:38.000 And then national master, you can go be international, if I'm not mistaken.
01:21:41.000 And then, you know, GM. Do you ever see the video of Eddie Fisher?
01:21:46.000 Or Bobby Fisher?
01:21:48.000 Bobby Fisher, yeah.
01:21:48.000 When Bobby Fisher was walking down this row of chess games.
01:21:52.000 He was playing like ten different games simultaneously.
01:21:55.000 Yeah.
01:21:56.000 Yeah, the champ now, Carlson, does something similar, where Carlson will play several people, or he'll play without a board.
01:22:09.000 That always interested me.
01:22:10.000 I've seen people do that.
01:22:12.000 Yeah.
01:22:12.000 This dude I knew who went to prison was playing, this is a pool hall that he used to play at in White Plains, executive billiards, and this kid was a chess master.
01:22:21.000 He was like a 16-year-old, I don't know, master, I mean, Chess genius.
01:22:24.000 Right.
01:22:25.000 16-year-old kid, and he was playing with this dude who was in his 40s who had been in prison.
01:22:30.000 He learned how to play chess with no board in prison.
01:22:33.000 So they were just sitting across from each other talking, saying the moves, and then they would both recognize where the pieces were on the board.
01:22:40.000 Really interesting.
01:22:42.000 Yeah.
01:22:42.000 I mean, that level of visualization is where humanity has to take itself.
01:22:49.000 Right.
01:22:50.000 You know, that's why I say chess is great because it allows you to visualize.
01:22:55.000 And in order to manifest your desires in this world, you have to be able to visualize what you want.
01:22:59.000 The more you can focus, the more you can visualize, the better your mind is, I believe.
01:23:04.000 Because our life is based upon visualization.
01:23:07.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:23:10.000 Women need to get back to that too.
01:23:13.000 Visualizing goals.
01:23:14.000 I think women are very spiritual.
01:23:18.000 So in Africa there's this...
01:23:20.000 Oh man, I'm slipping on my studies.
01:23:23.000 I studied this a long time ago.
01:23:24.000 But the man is holding the child and the woman is pointing up to the sky, right?
01:23:31.000 And it's like the man is like that earthly thing, like we handle things in the physical.
01:23:36.000 And the woman's sort of like that intuitive being, right?
01:23:40.000 Women have to get back to being that intuitive being.
01:23:44.000 Because if you notice, our women always seem to warn us about stuff, right?
01:23:48.000 Like, oh, don't do this.
01:23:48.000 Like, damn, I should have listened to her that time.
01:23:50.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:23:51.000 They have to get back to their spiritual nature.
01:23:53.000 And I think a lot of them get away from that.
01:23:55.000 And that'll ground them, too.
01:23:56.000 And they won't need so much emotional support from friends and family because...
01:24:00.000 They're back in their spiritual nature.
01:24:02.000 Well, how does a woman do that?
01:24:03.000 You can start with meditating.
01:24:05.000 You know, meditating.
01:24:07.000 Being happy with just being alone with yourself.
01:24:10.000 A lot of people can't be alone with themselves.
01:24:13.000 Yeah.
01:24:13.000 You know, they always need some sort of device.
01:24:16.000 Isn't it interesting that it's attractive when people are capable of being alone?
01:24:20.000 Yeah.
01:24:21.000 I remember these two girls were talking.
01:24:23.000 About some guy that one of them was dating.
01:24:25.000 And she goes, yeah, he's really into his career, which is a huge turn-on.
01:24:30.000 I was like, oh, that's interesting.
01:24:32.000 He just needs time.
01:24:33.000 He's disciplined.
01:24:34.000 He works all the time.
01:24:35.000 He's always working on his career, which is a huge turn-on.
01:24:37.000 And I was like, well, you two...
01:24:39.000 Two little cluckers.
01:24:41.000 Well, women have to get back to that, too.
01:24:43.000 Y'all gotta learn how to pick a good man.
01:24:45.000 Sometimes y'all are picking crap men based upon the money or things that they have.
01:24:49.000 You get in a relationship, you find out he's $100,000 in debt.
01:24:52.000 He's a douche, right?
01:24:53.000 Even though he's got these things.
01:24:55.000 I think women have to get better at seeing potential in men.
01:24:58.000 But don't they have to be tricked a few times before they can see the problems?
01:25:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:25:02.000 That's part of the experience, yeah.
01:25:04.000 That's a fucking dirty thing for a girl.
01:25:06.000 Let some loser fuck you and go, God damn it.
01:25:09.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:25:10.000 Thought I had him.
01:25:11.000 Thought I had a winner.
01:25:12.000 Yeah.
01:25:13.000 I mean, I've been a victim of that.
01:25:15.000 Well, not a victim, but I've done that to women myself.
01:25:18.000 Sorry, ladies.
01:25:19.000 Back in the day?
01:25:21.000 Yeah.
01:25:21.000 Yeah, I've done some wrong stuff.
01:25:23.000 Well, you become a different person as time goes on.
01:25:25.000 Yeah, you grow from it.
01:25:26.000 Part of evolution of the human.
01:25:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:25:29.000 Yeah, I think society's expectations in women are, it's very difficult for a man to understand it.
01:25:36.000 You know, we see it from the outside.
01:25:38.000 But to feel it as a woman, it's got to be very different.
01:25:42.000 And there's a lot of women out there that are looking for a man, like a successful man.
01:25:47.000 They're looking for a successful man, and they want to touch themselves.
01:25:49.000 And that's the goal.
01:25:51.000 That's not a goal of men.
01:25:53.000 So it's very difficult for us to understand that.
01:25:55.000 Our goal, obviously we're generalizing, right?
01:25:58.000 But our goal is to be successful ourselves.
01:26:01.000 Right.
01:26:01.000 Well, you can't...
01:26:02.000 You can't know what man you want unless you know who you are.
01:26:07.000 And a lot of people are getting in relationships without being in relationship with themselves first.
01:26:13.000 So in order to have a sound relationship, you have to know your socioeconomic stance.
01:26:25.000 It's sad when you get into a relationship with a conservative and you're liberal and you start arguing about Donald Trump.
01:26:31.000 And a relationship breaks because he's on one side.
01:26:34.000 These are the conversations that you need to have up front.
01:26:36.000 And if you don't know where you are politically and socioeconomically, for example, they say a lot of relationships break up because of money, right?
01:26:44.000 And you got one person's a bad spender, the other one's thrifty, right?
01:26:48.000 These are the conversations you need to have first.
01:26:50.000 How do you manage your money?
01:26:51.000 Are you good with your money?
01:26:53.000 And if you guys don't agree with how you want to pull your resource and how you want to pull your money and what you want to do with it in the future...
01:27:00.000 Some people...
01:27:01.000 You might get in a relationship with a girl and she's like, I want a Porsche.
01:27:03.000 I want a Land Rover.
01:27:05.000 And I'm like, I want a business...
01:27:08.000 I want a VC. You know what I mean?
01:27:11.000 So you have two people that are going separate directions.
01:27:13.000 One's going as consumer route, one's going independent producer route.
01:27:17.000 So you have to first see, are you a consumer?
01:27:19.000 Maybe you need to be with a consumer.
01:27:20.000 Are you a producer?
01:27:21.000 You don't need to be with a consumer.
01:27:23.000 You need to find someone as a producer.
01:27:24.000 So if you agree on socioeconomics, you'll have a better relationship with people.
01:27:29.000 But you have to know what you want out of life first and then find people connected based upon that, not the physical looks and all that other stuff.
01:27:36.000 Yeah, and I think sometimes people think they want something because it's very difficult to attain.
01:27:40.000 They see these things and they go, oh, that's the prize.
01:27:44.000 Yeah, well, the thing is these stuff aren't hard to obtain.
01:27:48.000 Like, you know, getting a Porsche isn't hard, right?
01:27:51.000 It's hard for a lot of people.
01:27:52.000 Depends on how much you make, what you do, what kind of job you're trapped in.
01:27:56.000 Hard is relative.
01:27:57.000 Right.
01:27:57.000 You know, like I tell my kids, hard is basically undiscovered.
01:28:03.000 That's all it is, right?
01:28:05.000 So, for example, when you first do algebra, it's hard, right?
01:28:09.000 But that's just because it's new.
01:28:10.000 So hard equals new.
01:28:13.000 That's what hard means.
01:28:15.000 It's new because once you do algebra 3, 4, 5, 10 times, it's not new anymore and therefore it's not hard.
01:28:22.000 So once you break past the newness of a thing, it's no longer hard.
01:28:28.000 Like building a business, it's not new to me, therefore it's not hard.
01:28:34.000 It's very easy for me to build a business because I've done it so many times in my life.
01:28:40.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:28:41.000 Jiffetize is cash flowing 4x what it was doing when I first joined the company.
01:28:49.000 And all I did was make a few tweaks.
01:28:50.000 That's only because I'm not new to the tech startup space.
01:28:54.000 I've been working with over 20 startups.
01:28:57.000 Over 20 startups in a matter of two, three years as a consultant.
01:29:01.000 So this stuff, when people say, oh, it's hard.
01:29:03.000 It's like, no, no, it's not hard.
01:29:05.000 It's new and you're an idiot and you don't know what you're doing.
01:29:08.000 It's not hard to achieve anything in this life.
01:29:12.000 You know, I used to work for 50 Cent, right?
01:29:15.000 And when I lived in New Brunswick, right by Rutgers, I wasn't really a 50 Cent fan.
01:29:21.000 I enjoyed his music, but I wasn't a fan to buy a poster.
01:29:23.000 I bought this poster.
01:29:24.000 It was him and G-Unit, and he had this big stash of money.
01:29:28.000 I was like, yo, this poster motivates me.
01:29:31.000 You fast forward 10 years and some other things I did to get close to 50, and I actually worked with 50. That was technically hard, right?
01:29:39.000 It's not easy to get next to 50, but when I did it, It happened like that.
01:29:44.000 Then I started working with Carmelo Anthony.
01:29:46.000 So you're saying once it actually happened, it turned out it wasn't actually hard.
01:29:49.000 No, hard.
01:29:50.000 It's hard for some people.
01:29:52.000 No, they're just not disciplined.
01:29:54.000 Hard is dealing with yourself.
01:29:58.000 That's what's hard.
01:30:00.000 Can you defeat your own mind?
01:30:02.000 So when I wake up every morning, the only thing I got to defeat is doubt.
01:30:06.000 It's the only thing I have to defeat.
01:30:08.000 Once I defeat doubt, I live in a limitless world.
01:30:14.000 Infinite possibilities.
01:30:15.000 I can literally do anything.
01:30:17.000 So people told me, oh, in order to be in tech, you need a million dollars and this, that, and the third.
01:30:23.000 Dude, I got equity in three tech companies.
01:30:27.000 Three tech companies.
01:30:28.000 And I'm not rich.
01:30:29.000 I didn't put up millions to get into these companies.
01:30:32.000 I'm part of these companies because I built me.
01:30:36.000 And it wasn't hard.
01:30:37.000 It really wasn't hard to get into these companies.
01:30:39.000 I just had something to offer and they saw value in me.
01:30:42.000 I want to be the next Elon Musk.
01:30:46.000 I want to be the next Bill Gates.
01:30:47.000 I want to be the guy that Zuckerberg hates.
01:30:50.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:30:51.000 I want to be the guy that builds the new Silicon Valley on the East Coast.
01:30:57.000 Those are my aspirations.
01:30:59.000 So when people tell me what you can and can't not do and it's hard, I'm like, dude, I'm selling Bitcoin.
01:31:05.000 How many black dudes you know sell Bitcoin?
01:31:09.000 None.
01:31:10.000 I don't know anybody who sells Bitcoin.
01:31:12.000 Exactly.
01:31:13.000 And people are telling me this is hard.
01:31:15.000 It's not hard.
01:31:16.000 You get what you want.
01:31:17.000 And I didn't get into Bitcoin out of dumb luck.
01:31:21.000 I manifested that.
01:31:22.000 I said I wanted to sell Bitcoin.
01:31:24.000 How can I manifest it?
01:31:25.000 Then I let it go and the universe brought me the opportunity and then it happened.
01:31:28.000 When I first said, I want to be a VC. First thing I want to do is start building a portfolio.
01:31:36.000 I didn't look for companies.
01:31:38.000 They found me.
01:31:40.000 I just had to ask the universe and it presented opportunities and I just had to...
01:31:44.000 So what do you mean by you had to ask the universe?
01:31:47.000 I had to put the intention out there.
01:31:49.000 So do you think that literally by thinking about things you can make them happen?
01:31:52.000 You can make the opportunity present itself.
01:31:56.000 And then you have to be ready to take advantage.
01:31:58.000 So let's we got to walk through the story to 50 cent thing, right?
01:32:00.000 So I get invited to his bus launch right for the company.
01:32:04.000 Now I'm sitting on the bus.
01:32:05.000 They move me to the back because of security reasons.
01:32:08.000 So I'm in the back of the bus when the bus start moving.
01:32:12.000 In my head, fear kicks in and doubt kicks in.
01:32:14.000 And I'm telling myself, I should just hop with the bus stop.
01:32:17.000 And I said, I should just hop up and just start screaming.
01:32:19.000 I'm on the bus for 50 Cent.
01:32:20.000 And I'm like, nah, I don't do that.
01:32:22.000 They invited you out here.
01:32:23.000 You got to sit here and that's not right.
01:32:25.000 And, you know, all these things society says is right.
01:32:28.000 So I stand up and I go, yeah, I'm on the bus for 50 Cent.
01:32:31.000 Right?
01:32:32.000 And then the whole crowd rushes the bus.
01:32:34.000 After the crowd finishes, they take one of the energy drink shirts, they throw it on me, throw the hat on me, they bring me to the front of the bus.
01:32:41.000 Now I'm sitting next to 50 Cent.
01:32:43.000 Fast forward two years later, I'm in a 50 Cent company.
01:32:46.000 But it's because I started off with defeat and doubt.
01:32:51.000 But also listening to my intuition, my intuition said to hop up and do that.
01:32:56.000 Right?
01:32:57.000 But the opportunity was presented to me.
01:33:00.000 I didn't create the opportunity.
01:33:02.000 They DM'd me and said, yo, we want you to come.
01:33:06.000 I didn't ask.
01:33:08.000 They invited me.
01:33:09.000 But it's because I kept putting that 50 cent energy out there.
01:33:13.000 You see what I mean?
01:33:14.000 I kept putting that out there.
01:33:15.000 Like, I want to mess with 50 cent.
01:33:17.000 I want to mess with it.
01:33:17.000 For 10 years, I've been putting that energy out there.
01:33:21.000 50 of you listening, yo, holla at me.
01:33:22.000 I want to work with you again.
01:33:24.000 But I just really love 15 and his attitude.
01:33:27.000 He's just really a fun dude.
01:33:28.000 He had a funny thing about Father's Day.
01:33:30.000 You see his rant about Father's Day?
01:33:31.000 Oh, yeah.
01:33:32.000 The difference between Father's Day and Mother's Day is very funny.
01:33:36.000 But, you know, the universe, anything you ask for, it will present the opportunity.
01:33:43.000 The only thing is, are you woke enough to see it?
01:33:46.000 Can you identify it when it hits?
01:33:48.000 And can you defeat the fear?
01:33:52.000 And do you have all the other bases in your life covered where you have the bandwidth to tackle something that's difficult?
01:33:57.000 Correct.
01:33:58.000 But usually the universe only presents you opportunities you can handle.
01:34:02.000 Because if you couldn't handle it, you wouldn't be able to recognize it.
01:34:06.000 Do you say this, like the universe presents this to you, this like a spiritual concept?
01:34:11.000 Is this like, are you manifesting reality with your thoughts and intentions?
01:34:16.000 Do you really believe that?
01:34:17.000 All of that.
01:34:17.000 Why do you believe that?
01:34:19.000 Because I lived it.
01:34:20.000 I experienced it.
01:34:21.000 But you lived it and you're successful at it.
01:34:23.000 See, that's why my perspective on that is always you hear about things like the secret and the law of attraction.
01:34:28.000 You hear that from people that are successful.
01:34:29.000 They say, well, I willed it into existence.
01:34:31.000 Yeah.
01:34:32.000 But what about the people that tried to will it into existence and nothing ever worked out right?
01:34:35.000 Well, ora et labora, right?
01:34:37.000 Ora et labora is Latin for work and pray.
01:34:39.000 A lot of people go into the secret and they're just praying, but they ain't working.
01:34:43.000 Right.
01:34:43.000 That's important.
01:34:45.000 I don't look at it in the same way, but I look at it in a similar way.
01:34:52.000 I think there is something to intention.
01:34:55.000 There's something.
01:34:56.000 And there's something also to having that kind of faith to believe in intention.
01:35:00.000 Whereas I think a lot of people, they're reluctant to give in to that because it seems too woo-woo.
01:35:05.000 And it seems like some crystals and fucking astrology and horse shit.
01:35:09.000 You know what I mean?
01:35:10.000 Because there's a lot of that out there.
01:35:11.000 A lot of that out there.
01:35:12.000 The new age has ruined the law of attraction.
01:35:15.000 You know what I mean?
01:35:16.000 It's like, oh, just speaking into it.
01:35:17.000 This isn't happening.
01:35:18.000 No, that's not true.
01:35:19.000 You have to first educate yourself.
01:35:21.000 So when we talk about Hotep, right?
01:35:24.000 When we talk about Hotep, you got to bring up the 5% nation, you got to bring up Supreme Mathematics, zero cipher, one knowledge, two wisdom, three understanding.
01:35:32.000 But it first starts at the number one, right?
01:35:34.000 Number one is knowledge.
01:35:35.000 So the problem is people are trying to manifest, but they ain't got no knowledge of anything.
01:35:39.000 Right.
01:35:40.000 So how do you manifest something with no knowledge?
01:35:42.000 Got to educate yourself.
01:35:43.000 You got to first start educating yourself.
01:35:45.000 Discipline yourself so that you can educate yourself as well.
01:35:47.000 Right.
01:35:48.000 And also, knowledge is the springboard for imagination.
01:35:52.000 So, if there's a complicated calculus problem, but you don't know what calculus is, how can the intuition feed you insight or inspiration to solve a calculus problem?
01:36:04.000 You first have to have the knowledge of calculus, then when you get it, you get all this influx of inspiration, like Einstein talks about.
01:36:11.000 You know, he sits down, he kind of meditates, and then the inspiration comes.
01:36:14.000 But the inspiration can only talk to you based upon your understanding.
01:36:21.000 See what I'm saying?
01:36:21.000 Yes.
01:36:22.000 So the problem is people are out here not educating themselves.
01:36:26.000 You know, my day begins and ends with educating myself.
01:36:31.000 Begins, ends, and during the day, I'm just reading books, hopping between books, and reading and listening to lectures, and people think I'm deep, and I'm like, I don't know, I don't know, whatever, whatever I'm intelligent, but really my secret is consuming as much information as possible.
01:36:46.000 That's my secret.
01:36:48.000 And then from that, I'm able to say, oh, well, you know, dah, dah, dah, or studying history, you know, you can do a lot of things.
01:36:55.000 But if you're not educating yourself or doing, you got to do something, like just start, you know what I mean?
01:37:04.000 When you said you're going to write a new book, you're in the middle of writing a book, are you putting this kind of stuff in your book?
01:37:09.000 Guidelines like that, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but guidelines like that, I think that's very critical.
01:37:14.000 When someone sees someone who's successful and they see someone who's disciplined and focused, like, okay, what are your guidelines?
01:37:20.000 How do you do this?
01:37:21.000 The way you're laying it out right now.
01:37:24.000 So this book here, right?
01:37:26.000 Twitter marketing.
01:37:27.000 Yeah.
01:37:27.000 This book is the how.
01:37:29.000 How do you do it, right?
01:37:31.000 Like, how do you physically build a brand from start?
01:37:34.000 Using Twitter as a platform.
01:37:36.000 Now, this book can actually be used for any platform.
01:37:38.000 I just use Twitter as the example, right?
01:37:40.000 But this is the how that people won't tell you about.
01:37:42.000 What marketers won't tell you about, this is the how, right?
01:37:45.000 It's all this uses in there.
01:37:47.000 Now, the next book I have is with the editor.
01:37:49.000 It's done.
01:37:50.000 It's written.
01:37:51.000 That's for men and how to have peaceful relationships with women.
01:37:55.000 Right?
01:37:55.000 Because as we see, there's a gender war in America.
01:37:57.000 So we need to create peace.
01:37:59.000 And what I say is the fault isn't on the women, the fault is on the men.
01:38:02.000 Right?
01:38:02.000 So that book was, the cover was designed by Rolo Tomasi, the rational male author.
01:38:09.000 Then we have the book of Hotep, which you're talking about, which is already written.
01:38:12.000 I wrote it two, three years ago.
01:38:14.000 And it's that structure for your life so you can manifest these things.
01:38:21.000 You know, so you can use spirit in your work.
01:38:24.000 To manifest these things.
01:38:25.000 If you're a Christian, there's secrets in the Bible that show you how to manifest things.
01:38:33.000 You can't ignore your spiritual self.
01:38:38.000 If you ever watch Doctor Strange, she pushes him out and his astral body comes out.
01:38:43.000 So the human being is dual nature.
01:38:45.000 We have our physical body and we have our astral body.
01:38:47.000 If you never connect with your astral body, you only use half of your potential.
01:38:51.000 What's your astral body?
01:38:53.000 It's basically...
01:38:56.000 An ethereal version of your physical body, but it's not bound by time and space.
01:39:07.000 So what do you mean by that, though?
01:39:08.000 What does that mean?
01:39:08.000 What do you mean?
01:39:09.000 What does that mean?
01:39:09.000 A ethereal version of your spiritual body.
01:39:11.000 Like, it's not physical.
01:39:12.000 You can't touch it.
01:39:13.000 Okay.
01:39:13.000 Right?
01:39:13.000 You can't, like, interact with it, right?
01:39:15.000 Okay.
01:39:15.000 But it can travel through space and time, right?
01:39:20.000 Or we talk about our higher selves.
01:39:23.000 Or we can, to make things more understandable, because all this stuff is based upon subconscious mind, right?
01:39:29.000 So you use your subconscious mind to program, I mean, use your conscious mind to program your subconscious mind.
01:39:35.000 Then the subconscious mind communicates it to your higher mind.
01:39:38.000 Then the higher mind That's where the magic stuff happens.
01:39:40.000 It's out of your control now.
01:39:42.000 The higher mind or spirit or God or Jesus, whatever you want to believe in, that's when they start working on this stuff.
01:39:47.000 But it has to be a part of you.
01:39:50.000 And then life starts reflecting what's in your subconscious mind.
01:39:54.000 The astral body thing is kind of like something that we use to either communicate with people in long distance, travel through time to see things that have happened in foreign lands at different times.
01:40:10.000 Get inspiration.
01:40:11.000 So when we look at Think and Grow Rich, right?
01:40:15.000 The book Think and Grow Rich, what does it tell you to do?
01:40:17.000 It tells you create a council of, I think he says dead people or something like that, right?
01:40:21.000 So create a council of dead people, your council, right?
01:40:23.000 So if I did mine, it'd probably be like Malcolm X, Tupac, Nipsey Hussle, you know, like a whole bunch of people, right?
01:40:30.000 And you have this congregation meeting of minds.
01:40:33.000 You can't do that with your physical body.
01:40:35.000 So who's going to be present at this meeting?
01:40:38.000 The astral body has to be present at this meeting.
01:40:40.000 So that's an example of how we've seen that science taught.
01:40:45.000 And think and grow rich, right?
01:40:47.000 So we can't state this stuff.
01:40:48.000 But aren't you saying, when you're talking about a council of dead people, you're saying your imagination.
01:40:55.000 You're looking at this council of dead people.
01:40:58.000 What would Tupac do?
01:41:00.000 That kind of shit.
01:41:01.000 How would I draw inspiration from Muhammad Ali?
01:41:03.000 How would I take the knowledge of...
01:41:09.000 Fill in the blank.
01:41:10.000 Whoever's dead, that's brilliant.
01:41:12.000 Yeah.
01:41:13.000 So there is that aspect, right?
01:41:14.000 Where it's your imagination, right?
01:41:17.000 What would Jesus do?
01:41:18.000 Right.
01:41:18.000 What would Jesus do?
01:41:19.000 That's the thing.
01:41:21.000 Right.
01:41:21.000 But what we have to understand is there's going to be...
01:41:24.000 A sliver of inspirational insight.
01:41:27.000 So let's say 90% of your meeting with these people are pure physical, your mind imagining these things.
01:41:33.000 Then there's that one sliver, that one 10% that slides through that gives you that piece of inspiration that you never would have thought about.
01:41:39.000 It's like an idea.
01:41:40.000 Sometimes you're chilling and like, oh, oh yeah.
01:41:42.000 That idea that just pops in your head, that is what happens.
01:41:46.000 Now, once you get more advanced, you can get more of that influx of inspiration from spirit or whatever you want to call it.
01:41:52.000 Get more advanced, meaning practice this all the time?
01:41:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:41:57.000 Practicing, you know, using your astral body to project out and being in another space.
01:42:04.000 Happy Gilmore calls it his happy space.
01:42:06.000 Remember that movie?
01:42:08.000 Yeah.
01:42:08.000 So what did he do in order to manifest his dreams?
01:42:11.000 He went to his happy place to detach himself from his physical problems.
01:42:18.000 You see what I'm saying?
01:42:20.000 And then he came back and he put...
01:42:21.000 He did the impossible.
01:42:24.000 So it's like they're trying to let you know.
01:42:26.000 So if you were to construct this and put this down into guidelines, you're basically streamlining the process of how to be as successful and how to...
01:42:38.000 How to just make your dream come true.
01:42:42.000 Make your reality.
01:42:43.000 How to be a person who's got their shit together.
01:42:47.000 Yeah.
01:42:48.000 You know, the main thing is problem with people, especially young people, is they don't know what they want to do.
01:42:52.000 They don't know their passion or their purpose.
01:42:54.000 And again, that just comes back to knowledge.
01:42:56.000 Are you studying?
01:42:57.000 Take your interest and study it.
01:42:59.000 When you get bored with it, drop it.
01:43:01.000 Move on to the next thing.
01:43:03.000 But, you know, like over the years, I've collected a lot of skills.
01:43:08.000 All of them are being used now.
01:43:10.000 You know, like I'm not a Photoshop guy, but I know how to use Photoshop.
01:43:13.000 But that happened because at one point I was running a blog.
01:43:17.000 I had to know how to edit something or do something, you know what I mean?
01:43:21.000 So just because it's not a skill you want, like at one point I had a photography business when MySpace was popping, I had a photography business.
01:43:28.000 Now, I don't do photography anymore, but I understand it.
01:43:32.000 So when I'm someplace, I can still use these skills, whether it's for a product or something or event, I can still use these skills to my advantage.
01:43:40.000 You know what I mean?
01:43:40.000 So even if you don't like that skill at that time, it might come in play later on, right?
01:43:46.000 But the bottom line is you have to start with your knowledge and then allow the spirit or intuition to feed it.
01:43:59.000 Allow it to feed it.
01:44:00.000 I don't use my logical mind.
01:44:02.000 My logical mind is only for after inspiration.
01:44:08.000 You get that?
01:44:09.000 Yeah.
01:44:10.000 So you get inspired and then you use your logical mind to figure out how to make this work.
01:44:14.000 Right.
01:44:15.000 And that's where we have to be.
01:44:17.000 Let the logical mind just carry out the menial tasks.
01:44:21.000 Let the higher mind or intuition lead the way.
01:44:25.000 Now, do you think of these things as being like separate entities, or is this all a part of you?
01:44:31.000 It's all one.
01:44:32.000 So when you think of your higher mind, how do you visualize this?
01:44:36.000 Do you visualize this as something that you don't necessarily have control of, but you can tap into?
01:44:42.000 Yeah, I guess you can look at it like that.
01:44:44.000 Like, you know, I'm not the Dalai Lama on this topic, you know what I mean?
01:44:48.000 But, you know, for one exercise, what I might do is I'll put light around my head.
01:44:57.000 I'll visualize a sphere of light around my head.
01:45:00.000 And you see this in religious texts and art.
01:45:03.000 You always see Jesus Christ or saints, they always have this glow around their head.
01:45:06.000 They call it a halo, right?
01:45:09.000 But really the halo is like your aura.
01:45:12.000 But also the second aspect is that when I want to use my brain in an advanced way, I can start the firing of neutrons or whatever the technical term is by visualizing something.
01:45:27.000 Even if I want to visualize thunderstorms in my head.
01:45:30.000 You know, that'll get the brain working, you know, but usually like light.
01:45:34.000 If I want to do distant healing, right?
01:45:36.000 Let's say you tell me you sick, right?
01:45:38.000 I probably shouldn't be saying this.
01:45:39.000 But if I want to do distant healing, I would envelop you in light.
01:45:46.000 I would sit at home, rest, make sure you sleep.
01:45:50.000 Then I would picture light around your broken.
01:45:53.000 Do you think that you can do that?
01:45:55.000 You think you can actually heal people from a distance?
01:45:58.000 No.
01:45:59.000 You're not healing anything.
01:46:01.000 What you're doing is you're giving the intention to God that you want this person to be healed and God of the universe is healing.
01:46:08.000 We can't heal a damn thing.
01:46:10.000 Right, but you really think that by thinking about something you can put that intention out and it'll change the result.
01:46:16.000 Yes.
01:46:17.000 Really?
01:46:17.000 What makes you think that?
01:46:19.000 Well, they have these scientific tests.
01:46:21.000 I haven't studied this in a while, but there's a test where they fire like these electrons or something like that.
01:46:27.000 And the electrons are supposed to be like on a predictable path.
01:46:30.000 And then when they introduce people to the experiment, the intent is… I know what you're talking about.
01:46:33.000 The wave spirit.
01:46:35.000 You know, the problem with that is that's misinterpreted.
01:46:37.000 Okay.
01:46:38.000 The real change is in observing it.
01:46:41.000 Yes.
01:46:42.000 But the changes in observing it because you're measuring it.
01:46:44.000 So by measuring it, you're changing the pattern.
01:46:47.000 Like if you talk to a real physicist about it, they'll say they've added all this woo-woo to this.
01:46:51.000 Right.
01:46:51.000 That's unnecessary.
01:46:52.000 Because really what it is is just the tools and the instruments they use to measure it are changing the results.
01:46:57.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:46:58.000 I can definitely see that.
01:46:59.000 The thing is that physics has to marry spirituality, and spirituality has to marry physics.
01:47:05.000 If you don't have that connection between the two, we don't got the whole picture.
01:47:08.000 Mm-hmm.
01:47:10.000 Spirituality is a weird word.
01:47:11.000 What does that mean?
01:47:12.000 It's a very taboo word.
01:47:15.000 It's a very abused word.
01:47:16.000 It's abused, for sure.
01:47:17.000 I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual and that kind of shit.
01:47:22.000 That's where it gets weird.
01:47:23.000 Yeah, I don't like that at all.
01:47:25.000 When I speak about spirituality, I'm speaking about something that really can't be put into words.
01:47:30.000 It's unfathomable.
01:47:31.000 Our language isn't designed to talk about this stuff.
01:47:35.000 When we look at Orwell and Newspeak, there's certain words that You don't exist for this stuff.
01:47:42.000 You'd have to use an ancient language.
01:47:45.000 And even an ancient language, you try to translate into English, it's like, we don't have a word for this.
01:47:48.000 You ever had to...
01:47:49.000 Like ancient Hebrew when they try to translate things.
01:47:52.000 Right.
01:47:53.000 Ancient Hebrew, all the numbers were actually...
01:47:55.000 All the letters, rather, were actually numbers as well.
01:47:57.000 Correct, correct.
01:47:59.000 Yeah.
01:47:59.000 Do you know when you talk about halos that the original halo was a mushroom cap?
01:48:04.000 A what?
01:48:05.000 Yeah.
01:48:06.000 A mushroom cap?
01:48:07.000 Yeah.
01:48:07.000 Oh, you're talking about...
01:48:08.000 Okay, I got you.
01:48:09.000 The original halo was...
01:48:11.000 Well, there's a book called The Sacred Mushroom in the Cross.
01:48:14.000 It's by John Marco Allegro, and he was a biblical scholar that was one of the guys that was assigned to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls, which is the oldest version of the Bible.
01:48:24.000 Yes.
01:48:25.000 The only one I think that they've ever found, it's written in Aramaic, and it was found in Qumran and these clay jars, and it's all written on animal skins to decipher it.
01:48:38.000 They actually had to run DNA tests on the animal skins to figure out which skins belonged to which animals, so they could put all the stuff together to figure out, like, all these pieces were a part of this one scroll.
01:48:48.000 Yeah.
01:48:49.000 Well, this guy, John Marco Allegro, studied it for 14 years, and it was his conclusion after he was done that the entire Christian religion was a giant misunderstanding.
01:48:59.000 And what it was originally about was the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals.
01:49:04.000 And they started doing all of these different scholars who studied ancient art and ancient religious art.
01:49:12.000 They started finding this mushroom iconography and all this ancient artwork.
01:49:18.000 And one of the things they notice is that the bottom of a mushroom, if you take particularly the Amanita muscaria mushroom, which is the one that they connect to the Christian religion, look at the bottom of it and see what it looks like with all those lines.
01:49:31.000 Now look at that.
01:49:33.000 That was the original halo.
01:49:35.000 If you see that picture with Jesus, with the halo around his head, the halo was essentially the bottom of a mushroom cap.
01:49:42.000 And the idea, they believe, was that these people were the ones that were consuming the psychedelic mushrooms, so they had this great wisdom and this connection to God.
01:49:52.000 That's what they thought mana was.
01:49:55.000 They thought These psychedelic mushrooms were the flesh of God.
01:49:59.000 I like that.
01:50:23.000 Surrounded by this translucent mushroom image.
01:50:26.000 So the idea that they were in these mushroom-induced euphoric states and that they were dancing around all these religious depictions.
01:50:34.000 Yeah.
01:50:35.000 Very interesting.
01:50:35.000 Because if you think about ancient religions, right?
01:50:38.000 No science.
01:50:39.000 They had no idea what shape the world was.
01:50:42.000 They didn't know anything.
01:50:43.000 But they did know if you found these mushrooms and you took them, you'd trip your fucking balls off.
01:50:48.000 Right.
01:50:48.000 And you would have this incredible experience.
01:50:50.000 They thought that was God.
01:50:51.000 That was their connection to God.
01:50:55.000 That's interesting.
01:50:56.000 Yeah.
01:50:57.000 It's a great book, and the Catholic Church actually bought it out, and they got rid of it.
01:51:03.000 And then you could only buy used copies of it, but then it was republished recently.
01:51:06.000 Over the last few years, someone got the rights to it.
01:51:10.000 That's interesting.
01:51:10.000 It's intense stuff.
01:51:11.000 Yeah, I like that conversation.
01:51:14.000 Yeah.
01:51:14.000 That's sexy.
01:51:15.000 You know, anything that goes away from the norm, I think is real sexy.
01:51:20.000 It needs to be talked about.
01:51:23.000 You know, speaking of sexy, see that woman that accused Trump of rape?
01:51:27.000 She said that she was talking about rape being sexy?
01:51:31.000 Yeah.
01:51:32.000 And Anderson Cooper's like, we'll be right back.
01:51:35.000 Cut to commercial.
01:51:36.000 What?
01:51:37.000 Yeah, she's a loony bitch.
01:51:39.000 Well, she seems like she might be medicated.
01:51:41.000 Yeah, you can definitely tell there's something off there.
01:51:43.000 Yeah, maybe.
01:51:44.000 Maybe she's super nervous being on television, too.
01:51:47.000 That's also...
01:51:47.000 It's hard to figure out how people are when you see them on television.
01:51:53.000 I like to consider myself a good judge of character.
01:51:57.000 She's off her rocker.
01:51:58.000 She seems off her rocker.
01:52:00.000 I don't know her in person, though.
01:52:01.000 Some people really do have panic attacks when that camera's on, that white light, and they're in the CNN studios, and then...
01:52:09.000 And it just comes out weird.
01:52:10.000 And then they're like, what the fuck was wrong with me?
01:52:12.000 Right, right.
01:52:13.000 Yeah.
01:52:14.000 Yeah, I could see that.
01:52:15.000 I don't think in her case.
01:52:16.000 I think she's just really like...
01:52:19.000 Do you think she's trying to sell a book?
01:52:22.000 She's trying to sell something.
01:52:23.000 She definitely wants some attention.
01:52:25.000 Yeah.
01:52:26.000 But Teflon Don, she can't do nothing to Teflon Don.
01:52:30.000 Pfft!
01:52:31.000 It is crazy how he's been able to shake everything off.
01:52:34.000 Everything.
01:52:35.000 If you stand ten toes down, he can't really do nothing to you.
01:52:37.000 That's why I keep saying, don't worry about these tech companies.
01:52:39.000 Stand ten toes down.
01:52:41.000 Stand ten toes down?
01:52:42.000 Yeah.
01:52:43.000 What does that mean?
01:52:44.000 Stand on your foot, man.
01:52:47.000 Stand your ground.
01:52:50.000 Don't waver just because somebody says something.
01:52:53.000 I get criticized a lot online.
01:52:56.000 And my response is, I said what I said.
01:52:59.000 You know, I'll infuriate the left and I'll infuriate the right.
01:53:03.000 And the right will feel like, well, last week you were pro-Trump and now you're saying something that's different.
01:53:07.000 It's like, and?
01:53:08.000 Well, you got the most shit, I think, for that Starbucks video.
01:53:11.000 The Starbucks video was hilarious.
01:53:12.000 Thank you.
01:53:12.000 When you walked into Starbucks and you said, you guys are racist.
01:53:16.000 I'm here to get my free Starbucks.
01:53:18.000 And that lady was like, okay.
01:53:21.000 Amanda, shout out to Amanda.
01:53:22.000 Shout out to Amanda.
01:53:23.000 She's like, yeah, I heard that.
01:53:25.000 Hold on, I'll get you a coffee.
01:53:26.000 It's like, I didn't know you could just give away coffee if you work at Starbucks, but I guess she just did.
01:53:31.000 I manifested that.
01:53:33.000 Where was that?
01:53:34.000 That was New Jersey Wilbury Commons Mall, I think.
01:53:37.000 That's hilarious.
01:53:39.000 Yeah.
01:53:39.000 But, you know, like, I manifested that.
01:53:40.000 And you can go look at that.
01:53:42.000 The tweet two weeks before said, I said, if you want to be on mainstream media, pretend to be a liberal.
01:53:49.000 Then I also said to my followers, I said, can y'all get me on Fox News?
01:53:54.000 The next week, I pulled this stunt and then got on Fox News.
01:53:59.000 Now, when they had you on Fox News, what was the premise?
01:54:01.000 What were they going to talk?
01:54:02.000 What'd they say?
01:54:03.000 They just wanted a story.
01:54:04.000 They just wanted some...
01:54:06.000 They just wanted some shit to...
01:54:07.000 And they also probably wanted a little bit of potential outrage.
01:54:10.000 Like, look at this guy asking for coffee reparations.
01:54:13.000 Yeah, you got a black guy who's asking for reparations.
01:54:15.000 They kind of like that.
01:54:16.000 Especially when it's spoofing the left.
01:54:18.000 So, you know, they kind of wanted to weaponize me.
01:54:21.000 Yeah.
01:54:21.000 So, yeah, it was a lot of that.
01:54:23.000 I thought it was funny.
01:54:24.000 I thought it was hilarious.
01:54:25.000 Yeah.
01:54:26.000 You were very friendly about it.
01:54:28.000 You know, it wasn't like you were being angry or anything.
01:54:30.000 Did you have your son with you or someone, too?
01:54:32.000 Yeah, my boys.
01:54:33.000 The whole family was with me.
01:54:34.000 That's funny, man.
01:54:35.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:54:36.000 My son didn't.
01:54:37.000 He was like, I told him, somebody go ahead and get a free coffee.
01:54:38.000 He's like, yeah, right.
01:54:40.000 It's like, your dad's really about to pull this off, bro.
01:54:43.000 You had a debate recently about reparations with...
01:54:46.000 CJ Pearson?
01:54:47.000 Yes, that young guy who's...
01:54:51.000 He's an interesting guy.
01:54:53.000 Very intelligent and articulate fellow.
01:54:56.000 Isn't he like 19 years old or something like that?
01:54:58.000 16. 16?
01:54:59.000 Yeah.
01:54:59.000 Is he really only 16?
01:55:00.000 16, yeah.
01:55:01.000 Really?
01:55:02.000 Yeah, that's what they say at least.
01:55:04.000 I thought he was older than that.
01:55:06.000 He writes for Quillette.
01:55:08.000 Is he really only 16?
01:55:10.000 Yeah.
01:55:11.000 CJ Pearson, is that what it is?
01:55:12.000 Yeah.
01:55:13.000 Find out how old he is.
01:55:14.000 That seems crazy.
01:55:15.000 Does it say he's 16?
01:55:16.000 Wow.
01:55:17.000 He's fucking smart as shit.
01:55:19.000 No, he's not.
01:55:21.000 What?
01:55:21.000 No, he's not.
01:55:22.000 Why do you think he's not smart?
01:55:23.000 He's not smart.
01:55:24.000 Smart people create things.
01:55:26.000 Stupid people.
01:55:27.000 Oh, he's fucking 16. You don't think he's got an exceptional vocabulary and ability to express himself at 16?
01:55:33.000 What does that mean?
01:55:34.000 It means you got something going on.
01:55:36.000 I don't mean shit.
01:55:36.000 It doesn't mean shit.
01:55:37.000 An exceptional...
01:55:39.000 You speak in absolutes sometimes.
01:55:41.000 What does vocabulary mean?
01:55:42.000 You memorize some words?
01:55:44.000 Well, you have use of them, access, instantaneous access.
01:55:48.000 That means they're in your mind all the time, which means you've done a lot of reading, which means you've done a lot of studying, which means you have a command of the English language, which was the only thing that we have, if you speak English, that you can use to express your intent.
01:56:02.000 Right.
01:56:03.000 And Orwell talks about these political types who sound very educated.
01:56:09.000 He says it.
01:56:10.000 They sound very educated on a matter.
01:56:11.000 And then when you break down what they actually said, it's so very vague.
01:56:15.000 It's so very nonspecific.
01:56:17.000 There's actually no solutions.
01:56:19.000 You know, all they do is talk about problems.
01:56:21.000 What is your platform, CJ Pearson?
01:56:24.000 Candace Owens, what is your platform?
01:56:26.000 Is your platform I hate Democrats or is your platform I want something for the people?
01:56:30.000 Because it seems like when you watch these people, they're all saying the same thing for clicks.
01:56:34.000 Like I told you, my homeboy makes all that money on Facebook.
01:56:36.000 He's doing the Candace Owens and CJ Pearson thing for money.
01:56:41.000 But are they the same?
01:56:42.000 They don't have the same ideology, C.J. Pearson's and Candace Owens.
01:56:46.000 They're cut from the same cloth.
01:56:47.000 You think so?
01:56:48.000 They're the same person.
01:56:49.000 He's the younger version.
01:56:50.000 I heard him speak on the Sam Harris show.
01:56:52.000 I believe it was him, right?
01:56:54.000 Was it him?
01:56:56.000 Google that.
01:56:56.000 C.J. Pearson.
01:56:57.000 I'm pretty sure it's the same cat.
01:56:59.000 And I was very impressed, especially with someone his age.
01:57:02.000 Yeah, I mean, he talks very well.
01:57:04.000 That's hard to do.
01:57:06.000 Here in the United States of America.
01:57:08.000 Oh, it's not him.
01:57:12.000 They have pre-planned catchphrases.
01:57:16.000 Pre-planned catchphrases.
01:57:18.000 You're learning, you're just learning another language and that's what he's speaking that language.
01:57:23.000 There's no dig on him.
01:57:23.000 That's low, bro.
01:57:24.000 I see what you're saying.
01:57:26.000 So you're saying that they have this sort of ideology that they're subscribing to, this predetermined pattern of behavior.
01:57:32.000 They know what works and then they just follow it.
01:57:35.000 Sort of like Top 40 DJ talks.
01:57:37.000 There you go.
01:57:38.000 Right.
01:57:39.000 What new thought has he created?
01:57:43.000 I don't know.
01:57:44.000 He hasn't.
01:57:44.000 I just listened to that debate.
01:57:48.000 It's a conversation that I think is a fascinating one, the conversation of reparations, because there can be no doubt that something horrible happened to the black community and they're still suffering from it, especially in the Deep South when you look at these places where the people who lived are the direct descendants of slaves.
01:58:03.000 And then these are the same impoverished neighborhoods that no one's ever done anything to try to fix.
01:58:08.000 So how do you fix it?
01:58:09.000 You first have to start with the subconscious mind or the black mind.
01:58:13.000 The problem with the black mind is the fact that the black mind starts off with a fetus mentality.
01:58:19.000 From the day you're born, you're taught the white man's out to get you.
01:58:22.000 So you start off with a boogeyman and then you're taught that you're a slave.
01:58:28.000 So when your subconscious mind believes that the beginnings of your race is a slave, how do you aspire to be more than that?
01:58:38.000 So in order to correct the black community, you have to teach black history or so-called black history or what I would say African history in chronological order.
01:58:47.000 Before we were slaves, we were kings.
01:58:49.000 So how do you have a whole entire nation of 40-some-odd million black people and majority of them never heard of Queen Angola, who never heard of the Songhai Empire, the Mali Empire, you know, none of this stuff, right?
01:59:03.000 King Mansa Musa.
01:59:04.000 How do you...
01:59:07.000 How do you raise a people's level of awareness about this stuff, and how do you elevate them to want to do things in life when they think they are a slave?
01:59:14.000 That's the first thing that you have to do to help black people.
01:59:17.000 You have to teach them who they are.
01:59:18.000 That expression, before they were slaves, they were kings.
01:59:21.000 The problem with that is a king is a monarch, and a monarch is one person who controls giant groups of people.
01:59:26.000 You can't have a bunch of kings.
01:59:27.000 There's not a lot of kings.
01:59:29.000 You can't have a nation of kings.
01:59:31.000 Correct.
01:59:32.000 But that's very different from saying, you know, we had four kings, right?
01:59:37.000 Let's say there were just four, right?
01:59:39.000 That's better than saying Harry Tubman, Frederick Douglass, and these free slaves, right?
01:59:44.000 You actually have to see at least one king.
01:59:46.000 I see what you're saying.
01:59:48.000 So see one advanced human being that also looks like you that came from the same part of the world where your ancestors came from.
01:59:58.000 So recognize that the trajectory that you and your family are on is a direct result of being enslaved.
02:00:06.000 That someone was enslaved in the past and brought over here against their will.
02:00:09.000 That's why there's the negative mindset.
02:00:12.000 That's why there's a negative self-image is because there's this Great history of oppression.
02:00:18.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:00:19.000 You know, when you think you're a slave, you can't operate outside of that.
02:00:22.000 And even if you don't think you're a slave, you think you're inferior.
02:00:25.000 Do you know who Miss Pat is?
02:00:27.000 No.
02:00:28.000 Hilarious comedian.
02:00:29.000 One of the funniest human beings alive.
02:00:30.000 And she was here, and one of the things she was talking about was when she was younger, that when she would see white people, she wouldn't look them in the eye.
02:00:37.000 She would get nervous.
02:00:38.000 She felt inferior being around them.
02:00:41.000 She just wanted to get away.
02:00:42.000 She didn't feel like she belonged.
02:00:43.000 Right.
02:00:44.000 Right.
02:00:45.000 And that's a product of not knowing who you are, not knowing your own personal power.
02:00:49.000 You know, when you look at the second Punic Wars of Carthage, you had Hannibal went through the Alps, which is a mission impossible, and he went all the way to the doors of Rome.
02:01:00.000 And Rome said, yo, we ain't coming outside to fight you, bro.
02:01:04.000 We ain't coming.
02:01:05.000 That's how strong the power for the army was.
02:01:07.000 They said, we don't want to fight.
02:01:09.000 They knew if they came outside those gates, they would get their ass whooped.
02:01:13.000 So how do you how do you have a people that walk around not knowing that Hannibal Barker is a well studied war general?
02:01:24.000 Today, the Pentagon still studies him.
02:01:26.000 Right.
02:01:27.000 So how do you how are you operating in America as a black person and not know who Hannibal Barker is?
02:01:33.000 Well, it's difficult, I think, for people that were born in America and all their known ancestors from America to even relate.
02:01:40.000 Like, my family is mostly from Italy and Sicily and some of them from Ireland.
02:01:46.000 I don't relate at all.
02:01:48.000 I visit Italy in the summer times.
02:01:50.000 I don't relate at all.
02:01:51.000 Right.
02:01:52.000 So then the other side is the fact that we were the natives.
02:01:56.000 We were not brought here on slave ships.
02:01:59.000 That's not economically sound.
02:02:01.000 What do you mean?
02:02:03.000 So when Christopher Columbus got here, Christopher Columbus got to the Caribbean, according to primary source, they basically said the first thing he did was take slaves.
02:02:12.000 He didn't bring slaves.
02:02:13.000 He took slaves from the island.
02:02:15.000 He captured people.
02:02:16.000 So when you have colonization, you got to remember the United States was only built 13 colonies at first, right?
02:02:22.000 You think this whole land was empty?
02:02:24.000 No, there were natives here.
02:02:25.000 But today, we're taught that natives are some other people.
02:02:29.000 No, natives are the melanated African being that has come here since the beginning of the Mali Empire.
02:02:35.000 We're talking about 14th, 13th century.
02:02:39.000 We had already come here from Africa.
02:02:42.000 Really?
02:02:42.000 Oh, yeah.
02:02:43.000 Yeah, we had already come here.
02:02:45.000 To the United States or to the Caribbean?
02:02:48.000 This landmass we call the United States.
02:02:50.000 So the way the ocean current works is it works from Africa, leaves out of West Africa, comes to South America and the Caribbean.
02:02:58.000 That's just how the currents go.
02:03:00.000 You don't need no paddle boat or nothing.
02:03:01.000 The currents take you there and then you travel up.
02:03:04.000 But we had already been here.
02:03:05.000 All you got to do is look up the story of Sarah Rector.
02:03:07.000 Sarah Wright is a wealthy so-called Native American.
02:03:12.000 I think she was a Choctaw tribe or one of these tribes, but she was wealthy and she wanted to be a pass to go somewhere.
02:03:20.000 And they had her classified as a free person.
02:03:24.000 Why don't we know about the wealthy so-called black people in America?
02:03:31.000 Why don't we know that there were black slave owners in America?
02:03:35.000 Why is that not taught?
02:03:37.000 How many black slave owners were there?
02:03:40.000 Man, the natives here had slaves.
02:03:42.000 They were trading slaves with the so-called white men.
02:03:45.000 Well, they definitely did that.
02:03:46.000 Natives enslaved people of other tribes.
02:03:48.000 Right.
02:03:48.000 So if those people are us, the so-called black men, if those natives were us, then we have to tell that history and say how we did have...
02:04:00.000 Territories, and we did carry out commerce, and we weren't slaves.
02:04:04.000 We were slave owners.
02:04:05.000 But the majority of African Americans that lived here were brought over here.
02:04:12.000 No.
02:04:13.000 No.
02:04:13.000 No, that's not economically sound.
02:04:15.000 What do you mean by it's not economically sound?
02:04:17.000 There were slave ships, right?
02:04:19.000 Let's say you wanted to sell marijuana, right?
02:04:22.000 Right.
02:04:23.000 Would you import marijuana or would you grow it here if it's already here?
02:04:28.000 Well, it depends on whether or not marijuana grew here.
02:04:32.000 Well, can you grow marijuana here?
02:04:34.000 You can, but we're just talking about marijuana.
02:04:36.000 What if we're talking about something that you can't grow here?
02:04:38.000 So what I'm saying is, people were already here.
02:04:43.000 Does it make sense to go all the way to this other continent to bring people on the boat when we know that half of your stock is going to die?
02:04:51.000 You wouldn't do that.
02:04:52.000 So how many people do you think were brought over from Africa on slave ships?
02:04:55.000 Because that definitely happened.
02:04:58.000 I don't believe it.
02:04:59.000 What do you mean you don't believe it?
02:05:00.000 I don't believe that story.
02:05:02.000 You don't believe that Africans were brought over on slave ships?
02:05:05.000 Correct.
02:05:05.000 I believe it may have happened, you know, maybe people were brought over as slaves, but I don't think that the black people in America Came from Africa on slave ships.
02:05:17.000 I believe the people that were here were slowly conquered.
02:05:20.000 First, they got the East Coast, and then they started spreading out West, little by little, conquering.
02:05:25.000 And when you conquer a tribe, what do you do?
02:05:27.000 You enslave them.
02:05:28.000 They're POWs.
02:05:30.000 Right?
02:05:30.000 Okay.
02:05:31.000 That's what you do.
02:05:32.000 So after you conquer this tribe, you make them slaves.
02:05:36.000 Now, how do you conquer the natives here?
02:05:38.000 So let's say you got this tribe is warring against this tribe.
02:05:41.000 Well, this tribe goes talk to the white man.
02:05:43.000 White man says, yo, if you help me wipe out these people, then boom, you know, I'll help you with whatever, whatever.
02:05:49.000 So they get together and they wipe out this other tribe.
02:05:51.000 Now guess what?
02:05:52.000 The white man now outnumbers this tribe, so he wipes them out.
02:05:54.000 You just kill two birds with one stone.
02:05:56.000 You just keep moving like that.
02:05:57.000 But I'm still confused.
02:05:59.000 There's a great history of slave ships being brought over from Africa with Africans that became slaves and worked in the South.
02:06:07.000 Do you think that's lies?
02:06:09.000 History is his story.
02:06:11.000 Right.
02:06:12.000 What about my story?
02:06:14.000 Is my story not valid?
02:06:16.000 But if you do 23andMe on someone from these parts of the country, you'll find out that they...
02:06:23.000 23andMe?
02:06:23.000 Well, that's real.
02:06:24.000 What is 23andMe?
02:06:26.000 So when I take a 23andMe test, right?
02:06:29.000 Yes.
02:06:29.000 What's it going to tell me about Africa?
02:06:31.000 That's a good question.
02:06:32.000 We should find out.
02:06:33.000 It's probably going to say, oh, you're from Kenya or you're from Angola, you're from this, this, right?
02:06:38.000 Right.
02:06:39.000 These things, these borders were created by Europe.
02:06:44.000 Yes, in terms of what parts of Africa and how it's distributed and what's a country and what's not a country.
02:06:51.000 So you can't classify me based upon a European name.
02:06:59.000 I understand that, but they're saying geographically.
02:07:03.000 Mm-hmm.
02:07:03.000 Geographic location, you can call it whatever name you want.
02:07:06.000 Right.
02:07:06.000 They can tell you where your genetics originated.
02:07:10.000 Right.
02:07:10.000 Like, I've got some weird shit in me.
02:07:11.000 I've got, like, 1% Asian.
02:07:12.000 I don't know why it's there.
02:07:13.000 1.6% African.
02:07:15.000 Okay.
02:07:15.000 There's all sorts of weird stuff that you find in your DNA that, like, your ancestors and ancestors' ancestors.
02:07:21.000 So let's walk down that.
02:07:22.000 Let's walk down that path, right?
02:07:23.000 Right.
02:07:23.000 So, either way, if you take black people here in America and you do their DNA sample and it point back to Africa, what does that say?
02:07:31.000 It says black people in America are Africans.
02:07:33.000 Now, the argument is, were we brought here or were we already here?
02:07:38.000 Did we bring ourselves here or did the white man bring us here?
02:07:41.000 You see, when you say the white man brought us here, what you're doing is you're removing our ability to transport ourselves.
02:07:49.000 You're saying, oh, we didn't know anything about boats.
02:07:52.000 That's what you're trying to tell me.
02:07:53.000 You're trying to tell me that we didn't know that there was a landmass here.
02:07:57.000 Only the holy white man knew there was land to the west.
02:08:02.000 But when you look at the holy white man, he said, when we got here, we met black people.
02:08:05.000 Go look at the primary source.
02:08:07.000 We got here, we met black people.
02:08:08.000 When we got to the Caribbean, we met black people.
02:08:09.000 You think the Caribbean is right next to America and they weren't in America?
02:08:15.000 That's interesting.
02:08:16.000 Does it make any sense?
02:08:17.000 It makes sense that you do have people that have traveled, whether it's Polynesians that traveled to Hawaii, or people...
02:08:25.000 I mean, there's the Olmecs, who were thousands and thousands of years ago in South America.
02:08:30.000 They have...
02:08:35.000 We're good to go.
02:08:54.000 I've heard about him, yeah.
02:08:56.000 Read his stuff.
02:08:57.000 It's really fascinating because he's all about that.
02:08:59.000 He's all about the fact that the idea that human beings were probably living in advanced civilizations far longer than 14,000 years ago and they did travel all over the world and that you do find the remnants of these ancient cultures that we have no explanation for throughout the Amazon and throughout different parts of South America and Central America.
02:09:21.000 I mean, when you go and you look at real European history, you had the Magyars would believe that if they took a bath, it was bad.
02:09:32.000 They didn't even want to change their clothes.
02:09:35.000 They thought that dirty was purity.
02:09:37.000 When we talk about the Moors going into Spain and into Europe, the stories in the history of Our history says that when we met the so-called Caucasian, he was sleeping in the barn with the animals.
02:09:52.000 And we told him, no, you can't sleep in the barn with animals.
02:09:55.000 We taught them etiquette.
02:09:56.000 We taught them running water.
02:09:57.000 We brought that technology to Europe.
02:10:00.000 Now, if we brought the technology to Europe that saved Europe from the black plague.
02:10:05.000 You mean to tell me that if we saved the white race, that we weren't already in America already?
02:10:11.000 When we brought the technology?
02:10:13.000 When Rome was dependent on Africa for food?
02:10:16.000 Remember when the Black Plague hit Rome?
02:10:20.000 The cause was one of the officials was stealing the grain that was coming from Africa.
02:10:28.000 So there was famine, hit Rome.
02:10:31.000 If your source of sustenance is from Africa, how are you superior?
02:10:40.000 You're not.
02:10:41.000 You get your food from me.
02:10:43.000 So if you get your food from me, who's more likely to travel this globe?
02:10:48.000 Me, I'm the source of food.
02:10:50.000 And that's the first thing you need to survive on this planet.
02:10:53.000 So if your whole civilization is dependent on me to supply food, I made it to America first.
02:11:00.000 It's just that you won the war and you got to tell the story.
02:11:02.000 Is that their only source of food?
02:11:04.000 I mean, it's a source of food that Rome had, right?
02:11:06.000 But Rome is also very close to Africa.
02:11:08.000 Well, let's talk about that.
02:11:10.000 What kinds of food did they have?
02:11:11.000 Well, I don't know.
02:11:13.000 It's a very rudimentary.
02:11:14.000 It was a very rudimentary civilization.
02:11:16.000 It wasn't all what is cracked up to be.
02:11:19.000 When you go look at what the Greeks said about Egypt when they're going to Egypt, it's like, yo, it's like the New York City of that time.
02:11:25.000 The ultimate.
02:11:26.000 If you really want to talk about African civilization being advanced, Egypt is the ultimate because Egypt to this day is still unexplained.
02:11:35.000 No one really understands how they built those things.
02:11:38.000 No one understands how old the culture is.
02:11:40.000 That's another thing that Graham Hancock and Dr. Robert Schock from Boston University, who's a geologist, he's Pointing to water erosion and the Temple of the Sphinx that leads you to believe that that place might have been as old as 9,000 plus BC. Oh,
02:11:56.000 it absolutely is.
02:11:57.000 If not older.
02:11:58.000 Going back to Pharaoh Ramses.
02:12:00.000 There's also different styles of architecture, right?
02:12:03.000 There's older styles of architecture they find deeper in the sand.
02:12:05.000 They think it might have been indicative of an earlier kingdom.
02:12:09.000 And then there's also the Nubian structures of some of the faces.
02:12:11.000 Yes.
02:12:12.000 Particularly the Sphinx.
02:12:14.000 You know, the Sphinx, they believe, had a lion's face, and then when they were conquered by the Nubians, they changed the actual structure of the face of the Sphinx and turned it into a king's face.
02:12:25.000 Well, the way it was taught to me was that it is Upper and Lower Egypt.
02:12:29.000 So Upper Egypt is actually our New South, right?
02:12:32.000 That's our south.
02:12:33.000 And the way it was taught to me was that was the mind of Egypt and the economic Section of Egypt was what we see, Giza pyramids.
02:12:42.000 And it's economic because if you look at it, it sits between three continents on the Mediterranean Sea.
02:12:47.000 So it's a perfect place to carry out commerce.
02:12:49.000 It's the perfect place.
02:12:51.000 That's why everybody wants to be there.
02:12:52.000 That's why there's a war in the Middle East, because it's a perfect place to be.
02:12:56.000 So do you believe that some Africans came over here in slave ships or none?
02:13:01.000 Very minimal.
02:13:02.000 Very minimal.
02:13:02.000 Really?
02:13:03.000 Very minimal.
02:13:03.000 So you think it's a myth?
02:13:05.000 Almost.
02:13:06.000 Now, is there any scholars that support these opinions?
02:13:09.000 Are these your opinions?
02:13:10.000 Where are you getting this from?
02:13:11.000 So, here's the thing.
02:13:14.000 This is stuff I've studied probably close to 15 years ago.
02:13:18.000 So, I don't remember a lot of my sources or who I learned it from, but I can give you a couple of names.
02:13:23.000 What you got to do is you got to look up Shaka Aghmos.
02:13:25.000 You got to look up Dr. Kaba Kameen, Dr. Phil Valentine, Bobby Hemet.
02:13:30.000 Who else is a good Egyptologist?
02:13:33.000 Shaka Akmos is a real good Egyptologist.
02:13:35.000 I think you should start there with Shaka Akmos.
02:13:37.000 But these are videos I used to watch and lectures I used to watch back in the day.
02:13:42.000 Now I focus on like startups and that's where my brain is.
02:13:44.000 That's where my knowledge is focused on.
02:13:46.000 But a lot of this stuff comes from my own common sense.
02:13:51.000 It just does not make sense logistically to take people from all the way from over there to bring them here, especially when half your stock is going to die.
02:14:01.000 When you got people right here, you have human resources right here.
02:14:05.000 All I got to do is pop them, shoot a couple of them.
02:14:07.000 The rest of them are like, all right, fine.
02:14:09.000 And you enslave them.
02:14:11.000 And none of them died except for the ones I actually killed, right?
02:14:13.000 I got a whole millions of people right here.
02:14:15.000 Why would I go all the way across the ocean to bring people back across the ocean?
02:14:20.000 It just doesn't make sense.
02:14:21.000 It's just stupid.
02:14:22.000 Nobody would run a business like that.
02:14:25.000 What's up, Jamie?
02:14:29.000 PBS? The title was How Many Slaves Landed in the U.S.? Well, scroll that up.
02:14:37.000 Scroll that up so I can read that whole thing.
02:14:38.000 Okay.
02:14:39.000 Right to there.
02:14:41.000 Perhaps you, like me, were raised essentially to think of the slave experience primarily in terms of our black ancestors here in the United States.
02:14:46.000 In other words, slavery is primarily about us, right from the Crispus attacks and Philip Wheatley, Benjamin Banneker, and Richard Allen, all the way to Harriet Tubman, Sojourn Truth, and Frederick Douglass.
02:14:59.000 Think of it as an instance we might think of as African-American exceptionalism.
02:15:04.000 In other words, it's the black experience.
02:15:07.000 It's got to be about black Americans.
02:15:08.000 Well, black Americans will think again.
02:15:10.000 The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of slave trade is the transatlantic slave trade database edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson.
02:15:20.000 While the editors are careful to say that all the figures are estimates, they believe that the best estimates that we have, the proverbial gold standard in the field, the study of the slave trade between 1525 and 1866, In the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Transatlantic Slave Trade Database,
02:15:38.000 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World.
02:15:43.000 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage disembarking in North America, the Caribbean, and South America.
02:15:51.000 How many of those 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America?
02:15:58.000 Only about 388,000.
02:16:01.000 That's right, a tiny percentage.
02:16:03.000 So a small percentage of all the Africans that were enslaved were actually shipped to North America.
02:16:08.000 That's probably closer to truth.
02:16:10.000 They didn't come from Africa, bro.
02:16:11.000 That don't make no sense.
02:16:12.000 Nobody would run a business like that.
02:16:14.000 Well, they're saying that a lot of people did, though.
02:16:16.000 That's 10.7 million people.
02:16:19.000 Came on boats?
02:16:20.000 That's what they're saying.
02:16:21.000 They were in the slave trade.
02:16:22.000 I don't know if that means that they necessarily came here.
02:16:24.000 They could have been going to Europe.
02:16:25.000 They could have been going to the Caribbean.
02:16:26.000 The slave trade does not have to come from Africa.
02:16:30.000 I can trade with you right here in America.
02:16:33.000 It said directly to North America is only under 400,000.
02:16:37.000 Right.
02:16:38.000 Right.
02:16:38.000 Involved in the shipping and going all over the world.
02:16:41.000 It could be going anywhere.
02:16:42.000 But from Africa, correct?
02:16:43.000 That's less than 10%.
02:16:44.000 African shipped, yes.
02:16:46.000 That's less than 10%.
02:16:47.000 Less than 10% in North America, but 10.7 million Africans enslaved and moved.
02:16:54.000 Yeah, 10.7 survived, right?
02:16:56.000 Mm-hmm.
02:16:56.000 We're shipped, but it didn't say where they were shipped.
02:16:58.000 It's just to the New World.
02:16:59.000 The New World is very arbitrary.
02:17:01.000 And only 388,000 actually made it to North America.
02:17:05.000 I could trade from Haiti or Jamaica or South America.
02:17:08.000 Right.
02:17:08.000 So you think that there was probably already a significant population of Africans that were sea bearing that made it all the way over here.
02:17:18.000 Yes.
02:17:19.000 Well, if you listen to the words of Hancock and the discussion of prehistoric, what we would consider prehistoric use of boats and ships, it's probably likely.
02:17:28.000 Look at ancient Egypt.
02:17:30.000 Don't you see pictures of boats?
02:17:31.000 Oh, yeah.
02:17:31.000 Oh, yeah.
02:17:32.000 So they would bury them.
02:17:34.000 What is the big science museum in L.A. that had the Egypt exhibit really recently?
02:17:43.000 It's fucking incredible.
02:17:44.000 They had a depiction of the boats that they used.
02:17:47.000 Yeah.
02:17:48.000 I mean, they had boats, for sure.
02:17:49.000 They had boats.
02:17:50.000 They definitely traveled.
02:17:50.000 So how can you tell me that a civilization had boats before Europe was literate, didn't come to America, didn't set up shop?
02:18:01.000 It's just not common.
02:18:02.000 I mean, I don't need to read a book to understand that.
02:18:05.000 But it definitely makes sense if they made it to South America.
02:18:08.000 I mean, if the Olmecs were, I mean, if you pull up an image of the Olmec heads, this is heavily disputed.
02:18:16.000 John Henry Clark is an author you should study.
02:18:19.000 John Henry Clark has a book, They Come Before Columbus.
02:18:22.000 I mean, look at that.
02:18:23.000 Look at these Olmec heads.
02:18:24.000 They all look like that.
02:18:26.000 That's South America.
02:18:27.000 It's kind of amazing.
02:18:30.000 There has to be a large population of people in order to create these things.
02:18:33.000 They have to be advanced.
02:18:35.000 So if they're here already in South America, why are you going to go across the sea when you've got people right here and you're just enslaved?
02:18:41.000 South America is connected to America.
02:18:43.000 You think we didn't come up north?
02:18:44.000 You think we didn't take that whoop?
02:18:45.000 Right.
02:18:46.000 That's just common sense.
02:18:47.000 Well, particularly when they're finding all this evidence of people that were here thousands and thousands of years before they ever thought people were.
02:18:53.000 Yeah.
02:18:54.000 Or the evidence in the Grand Canyon from Egypt.
02:18:57.000 What?
02:18:57.000 I didn't know about that.
02:18:58.000 What's that?
02:19:00.000 You heard about that?
02:19:01.000 Part of it, yeah.
02:19:02.000 What is it?
02:19:02.000 There might be some gold down there.
02:19:05.000 Is this Egyptian gold in the Grand Canyon?
02:19:07.000 Imagine if they found a fucking Egyptian tomb in the Grand Canyon.
02:19:10.000 There's Egyptian stuff that's been found in Ohio.
02:19:13.000 What?
02:19:13.000 Yeah.
02:19:15.000 Well, I was looking some stuff up where the grandma's telling me.
02:19:17.000 I went home and looked up the serpent mound stuff, and right up the road from where the serpent mound is, there's been a couple artifacts found there a hundred years ago.
02:19:24.000 Egyptian artifacts.
02:19:25.000 They're called mounds.
02:19:26.000 Pull that up.
02:19:27.000 There's mounds in America, which are supposed to be like pyramids or whatever.
02:19:31.000 There's even an Egypt, Ohio.
02:19:33.000 I don't think it's named after that, but it's literally in the same spot.
02:19:37.000 The history of human travel is fucking fascinating.
02:19:42.000 We've circumnavigated this globe before, man.
02:19:45.000 This isn't new stuff.
02:19:47.000 It's new to Europe.
02:19:48.000 It wasn't new to the African race, man.
02:19:51.000 We've been here.
02:19:52.000 They got the mounds, the archaeological evidence from Egypt and the Grand Canyon.
02:19:56.000 It's right there.
02:19:57.000 See, I've never heard that before.
02:19:58.000 That is interesting.
02:19:59.000 Archaeological evidence in the Grand Canyon.
02:20:01.000 Because it's not part of his story.
02:20:04.000 He's got to keep you thinking.
02:20:05.000 He's got to keep the black people thinking you were slaves and you came from Africa on boats.
02:20:10.000 That's what they got to keep you thinking.
02:20:11.000 But you really think that there's some sort of a grand conspiracy to withhold information?
02:20:16.000 Yeah!
02:20:17.000 Universities, scholars, all these people that are talking about the history of the world.
02:20:22.000 Universities are indoctrination centers.
02:20:25.000 The worst thing you could do is send a child to college unless they're going to learn a hard science.
02:20:31.000 Wait a minute, you think gender studies is bullshit?
02:20:35.000 Of course it's bullshit.
02:20:36.000 Wait a minute, what are you saying?
02:20:37.000 These make-believe degrees.
02:20:39.000 Gender studies, bro.
02:20:40.000 Serious stuff.
02:20:41.000 Yeah, gender studies.
02:20:42.000 It's a social construct.
02:20:44.000 I study gender in the bedroom with my girl.
02:20:48.000 That's why I study gender, okay?
02:20:50.000 Ain't no such thing as no gender studies in school.
02:20:52.000 Tell me, but there is.
02:20:54.000 You can pay for it and be in debt for studying gender studies.
02:20:58.000 You get a fat degree.
02:20:59.000 Yeah.
02:21:00.000 Do you find anything about Egyptian?
02:21:03.000 When I found it, I was down a deep hole, so I can't just find it that way.
02:21:07.000 I sent it to somebody, so I'll find it in a second.
02:21:10.000 They bury it.
02:21:11.000 Google it.
02:21:12.000 I just found the picture I found.
02:21:13.000 Here we go.
02:21:13.000 Pull it up.
02:21:15.000 Let me see some shit.
02:21:16.000 This is the...
02:21:17.000 Hotep's got to get his glasses on.
02:21:19.000 We're getting serious.
02:21:21.000 This is the good stuff, man.
02:21:23.000 Look at his head.
02:21:24.000 You see his head right there?
02:21:26.000 Yes.
02:21:26.000 That's not nappy hair?
02:21:27.000 No.
02:21:28.000 Well, that's a Thai Buddha.
02:21:31.000 That's not his hair?
02:21:32.000 I think those are braids.
02:21:34.000 Who wears braids?
02:21:35.000 A lot of people, including the Romans.
02:21:37.000 Oh, like Rachel Dolezal?
02:21:39.000 What is this, Jim?
02:21:41.000 This is from an old book.
02:21:42.000 That's why I was telling you.
02:21:42.000 It's really old.
02:21:43.000 This is a drawing of all the inscriptions that were found on this piece of stone.
02:21:47.000 And a lot of these are like hieroglyphs and whatnot.
02:21:51.000 See the Ten Commandments?
02:21:53.000 Somewhere around here is the thing that looks just like that serpent from the mound that's in Ohio.
02:21:57.000 Wow.
02:21:58.000 Yeah.
02:21:58.000 I don't know if that's necessarily Egyptian, but it's certainly fascinating.
02:22:03.000 It might not be Egyptian necessarily, but when I found it, that's what it was tagged as.
02:22:06.000 It could be just from that time period or very similar.
02:22:10.000 That's the Pennsylvania archaeology?
02:22:12.000 This is what the book is found from.
02:22:14.000 Oh, okay.
02:22:15.000 This is how I got to it.
02:22:16.000 Yeah, I've never seen this before, but there's some archaeological evidence on the walls.
02:22:21.000 Like you said.
02:22:22.000 A lot of people don't even know that Egypt's in Africa.
02:22:24.000 That's hilarious.
02:22:25.000 When you start talking to people about...
02:22:26.000 Think about that.
02:22:28.000 ...African culture.
02:22:29.000 Egypt is Africa.
02:22:30.000 Why don't they want the seven wonders of the world to be associated with Africa?
02:22:35.000 Well, because Africa's a continent, I guess.
02:22:37.000 They think of it in terms of...
02:22:39.000 Because Egypt is so unbelievably unique globally.
02:22:43.000 Yeah.
02:22:43.000 Like, there's nothing like it in the world.
02:22:46.000 We know Stonehenge is in Europe.
02:22:47.000 Yeah, but Stonehenge is clunky in comparison to the shit that you find in Egypt.
02:22:51.000 Oh, yeah, it is.
02:22:53.000 But they still pop up Stonehenge like it's some great thing.
02:22:57.000 You know, it's in Europe.
02:22:58.000 Yeah, Stonehenge is fascinating.
02:23:00.000 It's fascinating.
02:23:01.000 Like, hmm, why'd they do this?
02:23:02.000 There's a lot of shit in Europe, too.
02:23:03.000 They're finding now with LIDAR where they're using this.
02:23:06.000 They can map into the ground and find these structures and roads and pathways that existed.
02:23:12.000 And it's long since been reclaimed by nature.
02:23:16.000 This was one of the Graham Hancock things that he was talking about, how you look at South America when they're going through the Amazon, you're finding these incredible structures and incredible roadways and irrigations.
02:23:27.000 They believed that at one point in time there was a civilization of 20 million people living in the Amazon, and that when the European settlers came over, They brought smallpox and wiped everybody out.
02:23:37.000 Boom!
02:23:38.000 Yeah.
02:23:38.000 Boom!
02:23:39.000 Just like they did with the Native Americans.
02:23:41.000 That's another thing that people don't know.
02:23:42.000 When they talk about Native American genocide, the vast majority is disease.
02:23:46.000 It's disease, yeah.
02:23:47.000 So when people say, oh, you know, the white man came over here with violence, I'm like, nah, I don't know if he was that violent.
02:23:52.000 I don't think he had enough bullets to kill that many people.
02:23:54.000 They killed 90% with disease.
02:23:56.000 With straight disease, man.
02:23:57.000 It's just fucking crazy.
02:23:58.000 So where did disease come from?
02:24:00.000 You're dirty people.
02:24:02.000 Shit in the streets.
02:24:03.000 So how can you tell me that, you know, I'm just a slave?
02:24:09.000 Right?
02:24:10.000 When the filth, the degeneration of Europe is what came to America.
02:24:14.000 Greatness didn't come to America.
02:24:16.000 Degeneration came to America.
02:24:17.000 Well, some greatness did, too.
02:24:19.000 Well, I mean, when we talk about the people that came here, they were escaping the oppression of...
02:24:24.000 Yes, Europe.
02:24:25.000 They were the undesirables in Europe, right?
02:24:28.000 Or the people who tried to get away from religious persecution.
02:24:32.000 Right.
02:24:32.000 Things like that, yeah.
02:24:33.000 But these were the dregs of the society, right?
02:24:36.000 In many ways.
02:24:37.000 Yeah.
02:24:38.000 So you come here and you're dirty and you infect the people.
02:24:41.000 And maybe now that's why you got to go to Africa.
02:24:45.000 Because everybody's dead.
02:24:47.000 If you were speaking in front of Congress and you were talking about reparations, what would you have to say?
02:24:56.000 Keep the conversation going.
02:24:59.000 Open up the conversation.
02:25:00.000 Let's get more minds involved.
02:25:03.000 Don't shoot it down.
02:25:05.000 And Dems must pay.
02:25:07.000 You know, I got the hashtag going.
02:25:08.000 Dems must pay.
02:25:09.000 Why Dems?
02:25:11.000 Because it's a great start, number one.
02:25:12.000 So, you know, when we had the debate with CJ Pearson, he said, you know, in his rant...
02:25:16.000 You know, he went off about that and he said, if anything, the Dems should pay.
02:25:20.000 It's the liberals because they had the KKK. They owned slavery.
02:25:24.000 They ran the slave trade.
02:25:26.000 So it's like, well, if that's the case, then why don't we make them pay?
02:25:30.000 The other thing is, you know, if you're conservative and you're having this election race or whatever, why don't you just take the wild card away from them, you know, from the left?
02:25:38.000 And say, well, yeah, you know, if there is a reparations conversation, you know, that was the Democrats, that was the Dixiecrats that installed black codes in South Carolina.
02:25:48.000 They're the ones that...
02:25:49.000 That's an interesting conversation, right?
02:25:51.000 When you say that?
02:25:52.000 Yeah.
02:25:53.000 Wait, what?
02:25:55.000 Actually, the Democrats are responsible.
02:25:57.000 Yeah, you had the thing called black codes.
02:26:00.000 And if you were considered black...
02:26:03.000 Then you didn't have rights.
02:26:05.000 The funny thing is you could be technically African and be white.
02:26:10.000 White isn't a color.
02:26:11.000 It's a status.
02:26:13.000 Elon Musk.
02:26:15.000 What do you mean?
02:26:16.000 He's from Africa.
02:26:17.000 Is he?
02:26:17.000 Yep.
02:26:18.000 Well, I knew that.
02:26:19.000 But he's not an African.
02:26:20.000 Well, he was born in Africa.
02:26:22.000 But he's not an African.
02:26:23.000 South African.
02:26:24.000 So when we do his 23andMe, what is his name?
02:26:27.000 Probably Dutch or something.
02:26:28.000 Something from Europe.
02:26:31.000 But there's white people that their lineage historically is from Africa?
02:26:36.000 Sure.
02:26:37.000 Well, I mean, the Sephardic people that lived in Northern Africa, right?
02:26:42.000 Yeah.
02:26:42.000 Where it's considered more Middle East.
02:26:44.000 Right, right, right.
02:26:44.000 You can see some of that.
02:26:45.000 Absolutely.
02:26:46.000 But these people aren't the African.
02:26:48.000 These people come from Turkey.
02:26:50.000 Right, right, right.
02:26:51.000 They come from Kiev, Russia.
02:26:53.000 You know, that's where they come from.
02:26:54.000 They migrated into Africa.
02:26:57.000 That's not where they're from.
02:26:58.000 Their bodies aren't even biologically conducive to that environment.
02:27:03.000 You know, I'm not conducive to the New York environment.
02:27:07.000 White folks.
02:27:07.000 Who is?
02:27:08.000 Exactly.
02:27:09.000 But white folks is running down the street with shorts and I'm just like, yo, I need a jacket.
02:27:13.000 But there's definitely a biological difference there that we got to recognize.
02:27:16.000 Sure.
02:27:16.000 Let's just know where we came from.
02:27:18.000 Yeah.
02:27:18.000 You know?
02:27:20.000 Yeah.
02:27:22.000 Oh.
02:27:23.000 It's a lot to this conversation.
02:27:25.000 It is a lot to this conversation, but it's so heavily weighted.
02:27:28.000 People don't want to be objective about it.
02:27:30.000 Right.
02:27:30.000 What's up?
02:27:31.000 The thing I found about the Egyptians in Ohio was actually from a paper that was written.
02:27:36.000 It's postulating, and I guess they took a lot of the evidence that they had been finding and saying this shows that there might have actually been Egyptians there.
02:27:42.000 Right.
02:27:42.000 That's from 1937?
02:27:44.000 That's when the guy was, I think, born.
02:27:46.000 This is 40 years ago.
02:27:47.000 Oh, wow.
02:27:48.000 That amulet was brass, apparently, and it was found near Cincinnati.
02:27:51.000 And where I actually think it might have been trading, trade routes, because there was some, like, stones that have been found in various parts of the world that are from specifically Ohio because it's like a rainbow shale that was used in, like, arrowheads and stuff a long, long time ago.
02:28:04.000 That area was used to make weapons, like, the first, like, 12,000 years ago when the first people were kind of in North America.
02:28:12.000 But that area in Ohio also is known as the sandstone capital of the world, and I don't know if that's related to the Egyptians, because that's what the pyramids are made out of, you know?
02:28:20.000 There's tons of sandstone that is very specific to that region.
02:28:24.000 Pyramids made out of sandstone?
02:28:25.000 I thought so.
02:28:27.000 Yeah, there's 21...
02:28:28.000 From 1800 to 1980, 21 times the amount of sandstone that made the Great Pyramid was shipped out of Ohio to make various buildings all over the world.
02:28:38.000 Really?
02:28:38.000 Most of them in the United States, obviously, but all over the place.
02:28:41.000 Dun-dun-dun.
02:28:42.000 Yeah, just weird facts I found after Graham came through.
02:28:44.000 The history of the humans.
02:28:45.000 We don't know history.
02:28:47.000 We know some, all right?
02:28:48.000 The only history that we know is the one we go discover on our own time.
02:28:52.000 The one that's presented to us is not history.
02:28:54.000 It's all lies.
02:28:56.000 Well, it's not all lies.
02:28:58.000 All of it.
02:28:59.000 There's some lies.
02:29:00.000 I found that too.
02:29:00.000 Lost civilization in Grand Canyon was, wait, Egyptian?
02:29:04.000 The Smithsonian published some stuff in 1909, I guess, where all this came from.
02:29:08.000 There was an article that got written, and I don't know how much of it they proved or was proven or was just newspaper.
02:29:17.000 It's like bait back in the day.
02:29:18.000 Even more amazing, the artifacts didn't match up to anything on the known record.
02:29:22.000 Rather than appearing to be of Native American origin, as one might expect, the object had distinct Egyptian or Tibetan designs.
02:29:30.000 Mm-hmm.
02:29:31.000 Could there have been an entire civilization of Egyptians living here?
02:29:34.000 If so, how did they get here?
02:29:38.000 It's not that hard.
02:29:39.000 Hop in a boat, man.
02:29:41.000 You got cats that leave Africa and try to come to Spain on these places on a chicken wing.
02:29:48.000 Yeah.
02:29:49.000 It is interesting, right?
02:29:51.000 Like, the population of Cuba.
02:29:52.000 Cuba's so insanely diverse, and it's right there.
02:29:55.000 Like, what is the history of that other than the slave routes?
02:29:58.000 Like, what is the history of Cuba?
02:30:00.000 Because Cuba is very distinct African people living there.
02:30:03.000 The whole Caribbean, all that whole area has a lot of African roots to it.
02:30:10.000 But it's just a place that was conquered by the Spain, you know, by the Corteses, you know, those type of people.
02:30:18.000 What really disturbs me is there's no way to know exactly what happened.
02:30:22.000 It's like you're piecing things together based on artifacts and historical record, things that people wrote down and journals and logs.
02:30:30.000 Well, there's people that have traveled.
02:30:33.000 So, again, I've studied this so long ago, but I remember reading primary source from somebody that traveled with Cristobal Colon, aka Christopher Columbus.
02:30:42.000 And he was saying very specific things about his accounts when he reached these different places.
02:30:48.000 He was saying things like, we got to the land and we found Africans.
02:30:53.000 And I remember him specifically saying, so no matter where we go, we find Africans.
02:30:58.000 And he said it as if he was disappointed.
02:31:00.000 And then they started talking about their culture and describing their culture.
02:31:06.000 You just got to go look at the people that travel with Crystal Ball Cologne.
02:31:10.000 And there's some firsthand accounts there.
02:31:12.000 And they're very honest about it.
02:31:15.000 Dude, I'm going to look into that now.
02:31:16.000 That's very interesting.
02:31:17.000 I'm going to ask Graham about that, too, what he knows about it.
02:31:20.000 He's studied, especially on his latest book, he studied a lot about the various cultures that made it to North America and South America.
02:31:30.000 Okay.
02:31:31.000 Yeah, yeah, this is very rich in history.
02:31:33.000 Very, very rich in history.
02:31:35.000 I gotta wrap this up, but thanks for coming, man.
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