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00:02:47.000But at the end of the day, I learned the hard way.
00:02:50.000And I talked about it on stage the other night.
00:02:52.000You were there when I said that my daughter invited me to a party, that she went to school with a kid, and his parents are transgender, and I felt kind of weird, and I went.
00:03:00.000And on the way out, I looked at the kid.
00:03:32.000Just stop with that and we're going to be fine.
00:03:34.000Look, there's some statistic, see if this is true, that someone sent me that out of the 14 states that allow high school kids to compete as the gender that they identify with, rather than their biological gender,
00:03:51.000in those 14 states, transgender students are just dominating.
00:05:17.000I mean, there's not a whole lot of women other than maybe Amanda Nunes, but Amanda Nunes is doing it with them little gloves on.
00:05:22.000I wonder if she would be able to do it like that with those big gloves.
00:05:26.000I think she probably could because she hits that goddamn hard.
00:05:29.000But, you know, you got to judge each sport by, you know, like we see Paulie Malignaggi goes over to bare-knuckle boxing.
00:05:36.000He doesn't do that well in comparison to say, like, if somebody, like, you know, like a really good high-level striker with knockout power with the big gloves on, would you put, like, if you put Deontay Wilder in little gloves, I don't imagine anybody being able to take that.
00:05:54.000He's fucking people up at, like, a heavyweight with those big gloves.
00:06:05.000The outlier, like if you get one superior athlete and then you have them sort of commensurate with a transgender athlete.
00:06:15.000Like a guy who was an athlete who became a woman, you know, in his 30s, and then identifies, goes through the surgery, but how much benefit does he take of having testosterone flow through his body for 30 plus years?
00:07:05.000But when the outliers, when there's so many, when you see so many transgender athletes that are dominating in sports, and then when you add combat sports, which is how I got involved in this, when a woman was doing that, who was a transgender woman, Just not telling anybody and saying it was a medical issue.
00:15:03.000Yeah, they've made a deal with them because this links also to the, if you want to watch it, you can pay right here to rent it and all that stuff.
00:15:32.000When they would say, cut, you got, you know, A-Team, go sit down.
00:15:36.000Belushi was so fucked up for the night before, he would just wander off into a neighborhood, knock on somebody's door and go, you mind if I crash on your couch?
00:17:15.000Doug, I did a podcast with Jim Florentine, and I explained to Jim Florentine that what people don't know is that Hudson County, New Jersey, Northern New Jersey is the number one place in the country where they have the most UFO sightings.
00:19:15.000You know, it's not just one guy that says, I don't know, UFO. It's people who got knocked on the door and said, did you see anything at 11, 10 at night?
00:25:48.000If you're a lawyer, and you see something, and then you convince yourself that what you saw was something extraordinary, and you have the feeling that you're looking at something from another world, But if it's just some drone or some military vehicle and then you look at it and then you convince yourself,
00:26:04.000then it becomes a bigger and bigger deal in your head.
00:26:45.000When you have military fighter pilots, that's an extraordinary human.
00:26:50.000If you can be one of those guys that flies one of those B2s, for them to trust you with that billion dollar fucking spaceship, dude, you gotta be an exceptional human.
00:27:02.000There's no room for someone who's full of shit.
00:27:04.000You're gonna be a top flight fighter pilot, you're gonna fly around with gunfights in the sky, because that's what they do.
00:27:12.000They have gunfights in the fucking sky.
00:27:14.000Those guys are exceptional human beings.
00:28:20.000Like tracking it on radar or something like that?
00:28:22.000I know what you're saying because I feel like I've heard that description of it too, but this article just says it's video of two aerial encounters.
00:29:45.000Explanation of what he caught and what...
00:29:46.000He said that though tracking equipment, radar, and infrared cameras on his aircraft detected UFOs both times, he was unable to capture them on his helmet camera.
00:30:03.000I would imagine as fast as those goddamn things are going, it must be really hard to get a camera to be able to constantly focus in and out.
00:30:16.000A squadron of UFO followed his Navy strike group up and down the eastern coast of the U.S. for months.
00:30:23.000That's, I'm telling you, that little fucking...
00:30:26.000I read something about the Hudson River, that all those people that live across the Hudson River, whether on the Weehawken Edgewater side or the west side of Manhattan, those are where the people on their balconies see all that shit.
00:32:08.000What you're seeing when you're seeing stuff that's flying around the sky most likely is made by a person because people make stuff and people know how to make stuff that flies around the sky but then when you get to shit that defies physics like some of the things these fighter pilots see that's when you gotta go wait a minute you see these extraordinary feats of traversing distances like they can get from one place to another place so fast it looks like they disappear This is something they all talk about.
00:32:38.000They all talk about the insane speed at which these things can go.
00:34:23.000If you can imagine a person who can make a spaceship that defies all of the rules that we know about travel, about air travel.
00:34:33.000If they can make something that defies all that shit and somehow or another keep the whole development and production of it a secret and then have this thing and take it off and no one knows how the fuck they did it.
00:34:47.000That's almost more impressive than aliens.
00:34:51.000Because what these things are doing is if these pilots are accurately reading what's happening and they're telling the truth, the thing that's remarkable is their stories are very consistent.
00:35:04.000There's a lot of very similar stories from different people that make a living flying super fast warships.
00:35:56.000I saw gray fur movement wolf squirrel.
00:36:02.000Like, if you're dumb, or if you're compromised, or if you're a little drunk, maybe a little tired, you know, maybe you just saw something that looked really weird because of, you know, whatever weather conditions that are affecting some...
00:36:44.000When you look at all these things, you can't decide, just because there's a bunch of crackpot stories about UFOs, that the ones by legitimate fighter pilots, that those aren't real.
00:39:19.000Your version of it is a rehashed version that you keep repeating to yourself.
00:39:25.000You know, if you saw something, like say if you were hiking and you saw a wolf, right?
00:39:30.000If you saw that wolf, when you try to describe that moment you saw that wolf years later, like, what are you actually seeing when you're going into your memory?
00:42:23.000You know, you try to go back on your memory.
00:42:26.000Then you start to write a little bit and your memory gets better.
00:42:29.000Yeah, but even when your memory gets better, the problem is, with my memory, I'm always wondering how much of this is accurate.
00:42:39.000How much of it was I really paying attention during the moment?
00:42:44.000If you have a biased perspective of something that's happening and then you have a memory of it, how much does your memory and the biased perspective shape what you think happened?
00:42:58.000You could actually kind of twist the past.
00:45:42.000You know, like just that, you know, and then there's a theory that there's times, like you go back to Newark, like you, I don't know if there's a fight, are you going to Newark, that fight?
00:48:46.000I used to get my dick sucked listening to that when I was 14. Yeah, music, more than anything, is like an imprint of the time of your life when you saw it.
00:48:56.000Like if you go back and think about, like for me it was Stripes with Bill Murray.
00:52:41.000And then because we talked about it being funny, then they were just laughing hysterically and cracking all these jokes about what that thing looked like.
00:54:13.000They would do wide shots, so they would show the Chinese people running, and then they would just have a single shot of Godzilla moving through the air.
00:55:00.000And it was really complicated, and these guys had to be really strong because they're carrying around this gigantic rubber suit, and it's heavy as fuck and hot as fuck.
00:55:08.000So the reason why it moves so fluid, what the Japanese did that was brilliant, was they had men, and they put men in these monster suits.
00:55:17.000Look at the fucking smoke coming out of his mouth.
00:55:19.000Yeah, go and Google the men who wore the Godzilla suit.
00:56:47.000Somebody from the United States dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki when they used nuclear weapons.
00:56:52.000The idea was that and all the nuclear tests that they had done in the water, there was no real understanding of what the fuck was going to happen.
00:56:59.000And so the science fiction version of that would...
00:57:02.000It might be that all that radiation would create some super monster.
00:57:06.000Yeah, the Japanese were dealing with radiation poisoning and death on an unbelievable scale.
00:57:13.000I mean, hundreds of thousands of people wiped out instantly from atomic bombs.
00:57:18.000I mean, and so just the sheer force of the power of those things, you couldn't even imagine that there could be anything that could do that.
00:57:28.000Just one thing that falls out of an airplane that can do that.
00:57:44.000That's what the new one's about, too, right?
00:57:46.000The new one is the same kind of thing, like a dinosaur got zapped.
00:57:50.000I believe the new one was all the other dinosaurs came back and they had to reawaken Godzilla because he's the only thing that can fight him.
00:58:07.000At the end of the last one, everyone complained because there's this weird winky scene where Godzilla and the main guy looked at each other in the eye and we're like, same team, bro.
00:58:14.000You know who the real Godzilla is, man?
01:07:35.000There's a big community of Orthodox Jews, but in New York and Brooklyn particularly and Ari was explaining how they didn't they don't leave this community This is where they they stay.
01:08:55.000We often went to Chinatown after playing pool because it was like the best thing back in my early stand-up days when I didn't have obligations.
01:09:02.000We'd stay up playing pool until 2, 3 in the morning and then go and you have a real meal.
01:11:51.000I was more of a sporting guy when I was growing up, and yesterday I was on a plane, and they had DirecTV on there, and they were showing the best 10. I was looking at the iPad anyway.
01:12:03.000I was watching something on the iPad, but that screen was on, and they were showing the best 10 football plays.
01:12:09.000And they showed Joe Montana throw it to Dwight Clark in 81. And right away, my memory's like, wait a second, I won 800 on that game.
01:12:17.000Because I had the over, I had San Francisco getting a point.
01:12:21.000Fucking Dallas went into San Francisco giving a point in those days.
01:14:22.000And if that was the case, if we was able to mess up his movement and get him to miss a little bit, you know, get him so that he was having a hard time moving correctly and keep chewing on that leg, then maybe there would be openings for him to jump in with some punches.
01:14:37.000The problem is when they're both on the outside, Francis is bigger and the consequences are way more grave.
01:14:44.000If Francis clips you, it's nighty-night, I don't care who you are.
01:15:11.000When Francis was coming after him, he used good defense and he kept moving and kept picking away at him, picking away at him, picking away at him, taking his shots when they were there and then started wearing Francis down, taking him down, beating him up and then just dominated him.
01:15:25.000Clear-cut, unanimous decision for five rounds.
01:15:27.000It takes a guy like that, a guy like Stipe that has the mental fortitude to stick to a game plan, not panic in the firefight.
01:15:35.000Because that's what happens with Ngannou.
01:15:37.000You're like, Jesus Christ, I'm going to see lights any second now.
01:15:41.000I'm going to see a big flash, and I'm going to be out cold.
01:15:44.000Any second now it's coming, and you see the reaction they have to him.
01:20:04.000See, when you're talking about like Edson Barboza, though, like the spinning kick he landed on Dan Hangman, kept fucking kicking his body with those spinning back kicks, just fucking insane.
01:20:12.000You gotta commit to that spinning back kick.
01:20:14.000Speaking of my commitment, how about Max Holloway spinning the little fucking cap off the bottle?
01:21:14.000He achieved a very high level of skill in karate.
01:21:20.000I don't know exactly what it was, but from people that I know that have done martial arts with him and trained with him, they said, that guy's a bad motherfucker, like a legit badass, really knows martial arts.
01:22:46.000I had a friend that he used to say the best way to kill somebody is breaking the house, take the fucking pipe, the gas thing out of the stove, point it down, and light a can on the refrigerator, and then leave.
01:31:07.000Just so I could get some cool documentaries and shit that you would get from Europe.
01:31:11.000Just as a reminder, I want to give props to American Airlines for returning my luggage after the whole weekend, and they missed that fucking half ounce of weed in my boxing glove.
01:31:41.000I'm 56, the targets, the thing, and I take the class, everybody else, I do everything else, I die, then I go to one boxing, because Tuesday and Wednesday, Tuesday and Thursday is boxing.
01:31:51.000Now when you do the class, do they have you spar?
01:31:55.000I'm 56, I light, no head key, none of that shit.
01:31:58.000Just me and you tapping, popping out, working on combinations, shit like that.
01:32:03.000Saturdays, Sundays, I go in, there's an open mat.
01:32:05.000If I'm home, I go in, there's a chick that's like an ice cop.
01:33:00.000There's a lot of people come over here because They were super unfortunate in where they were born.
01:33:05.000They grew up in a shitty place, and they wanted to make it better, but they didn't know how to do it, so they came over to America by hook or by crook.
01:38:03.000You stay out of trouble, you mind your business, you know.
01:38:06.000I mean, you and I grew up on the East Coast, where you go to a Chinese restaurant, and you'd see the husband and wife working, and the kids would be doing homework at the back table.
01:38:18.000And if you came in the daytime, it was a different couple, which is telling me that two couples got together, they buy a home, And they open a business together.
01:41:52.000If you're contributing to the physics department at Harvard or something like that, and you were born in Germany or wherever, you probably could get citizenship a little bit quicker.
01:42:01.000And you have just a guy who lives in Guatemala and wants to come to America because he thinks he can advance his life.
01:42:08.000He thinks he can get better, whereas where he lives, you can't go anywhere.
01:42:21.000Listen, when you talk about immigration, you're going to get good and bad from every country.
01:42:26.000You know, Castro in 79 opened up his prisons in Mario, and you got 100,000 Cubans and 100,000 fucking spoiled, rotten savages from Cuban prisons where they wear no clothes and this.
01:42:39.000They have to shit in a hole in the middle of the floor.
01:43:22.000I have a friend who's married, and she told me one day that before they come here, they take a course to prep them on how to get money as soon as they land.
01:43:32.000Three days after they land, they get cash in dollar.
01:43:38.000Paperwork, what to say, they coach you.
01:44:03.000They got a thousand loopholes now, brother.
01:44:06.000And if you learn those loopholes, you could cave the fucking system.
01:44:10.000There's nothing wrong with having a group of people that all agree on certain rules, right?
01:44:15.000Which is what the United States should be.
01:44:17.000But the problem with having a group of people is you don't get to pick, like, who's in that group.
01:44:22.000So you're just deciding, instead of being admitted by your merit, or how good a neighbor you are, or how nice of a person you are, whether or not you're born on the dirt.
01:44:34.000Were you born on this dirt or that dirt?
01:44:36.000Because if you're born on that dirt, you can't stay.
01:44:38.000But if you're born on this dirt, even if you're a shit human being, you get to hang out.
01:44:42.000You get to ruin other people's lives while you're here.
01:44:44.000As long as you don't do enough that we need to put you in a cage.
01:44:47.000And then if we do, we keep you for a couple years and let you out and you do more.
01:45:04.000What the percentage of good people versus bad people that come across the border?
01:45:07.000The thing is, every time there's a bad one that comes across the border, it's highlighted as an example of why we've got to keep the border closed.
01:45:15.000When you see someone who is talking about illegal gang members that are sneaking across the border and murdering people, it absolutely has happened.
01:45:43.000You don't want your children, your family to be in danger because someone snuck across the border and they have a long history of working for the cartel murdering people.
01:46:19.000Did you notice that when you go on, there's homeless people on Ventura fucking Boulevard, on Lancashire Boulevard, under bridges everywhere.
01:46:27.000Has it ever come to your mind that anywhere you go, there's cars everywhere, and they're between Uber and Lyft and cabs.
01:46:33.000Now there's traffic in every major fucking city.
01:47:38.000All the dealers were taking Puerto Ricans and putting them to the Cleveland, Ohio area to work in the fucking Ford plants and all those type of plants.
01:47:49.000And after all those places sat down, all those people sitting there holding on to their dick.
01:47:53.000When you go to certain parts of Ohio, there's a suburb outside of Cleveland.
01:48:45.000If you go by my office for the podcast, in the middle is a A 24-hour daycare.
01:48:50.000How many times I leave my office at midnight and I see parents picking up their kids, you know, carrying them out over their shoulders into that car?
01:48:58.000You know, it costs a lot to control the American family.
01:50:25.000There are more than 110,000 empty rental units in Los Angeles.
01:50:29.000Filling those spaces won't solve the housing or the homeless crisis.
01:50:32.000Yeah, but the problem is if these fucking things are for rent and you have these homeless people that are drug addicts and probably mentally insane and you let them stay in those rental apartments, they're going to destroy your rental place.
01:51:42.000If every fucking hiker got paid for, for a fucking taxpayer, we'd be broke.
01:51:47.000So like in Colorado, say if you're one of those hikers who goes and snaps her ankle and you're on a ridge somewhere, they come and get you.
01:52:02.000If you get hit, listen, like a lady who got stuck in Hawaii for a week, wherever the fuck she was a month ago, those helicopters cost something.
01:52:48.000When you start getting those $1,100 bills from when they look in your knee and in your neck, when you get 10 of those, how are you going to pay them?
01:52:58.000Because you can't pay it until you get the settlement from the fucking attorney.
01:59:44.000I heard that there's lots of deals that get made from, like, if you had a friend that was, like, maybe refilling mini bars, your other friend would then refill the little bottles with not actual liquor or something like that.
02:00:20.000I don't know if that's what's happening in the DR, but that's what I've read speculation online says that there's just sort of something going on.
02:01:39.000I mean, how many people come over here from another country every day and wind up dying while they're here?
02:01:46.000Is that a normal thing that people do?
02:01:47.000Because people do, I mean, if people are dying of heart attacks and all sorts of strokes and all sorts of other shit, is that because someone's doing something to them?
02:01:55.000Or is it because 100,000 people a day come over here and one of them a day dies?
02:02:18.000All these people are older than 50 or older.
02:02:21.000Yeah, right, which can happen at any point in time, especially if you're on vacation, doing Viagra, drinking straight Jack Daniels, fucking up a storm.
02:04:14.000About 2.7 Americans visited the Dominican Republic last year, which publicly releases data only about natural deaths such as car crashes and drownings.
02:04:25.000It does not release information about deaths by natural causes such as heart attacks or strokes, even though it compiles reports on all Americans who die abroad.
02:04:35.000It's a matter of statistics that a certain number of travelers will suffer serious illnesses, accidents, and even death while traveling internationally.
02:04:43.000The death rate in the Dominican Republic is not any higher than the death rate in the states, officials said.
02:05:49.000She saw a guy with an outfit on from the resort, like an employee's outfit, and he fucking clubbed her and beat the shit out of her, and she doesn't remember anything.
02:08:27.000And I remember being a kid and going to my mom's bar and there were certain people that would walk in and my mom would go, before you say anything, I want you to know that he remembers everything.
02:11:03.000You know, because they're just these crazy sea mammals that are super intelligent, live in the water right off the coast.
02:11:12.000I mean, that said, it's such a paradise because what Hawaii has that no other place does is it's fully surrounded by the most beautiful, pristine water.
02:19:09.000But if sharks run out of shit to eat and then the seals run out of shit to eat, the sharks start running out of seals and they start going after people.
02:20:34.000It's just they can't get out of the water.
02:20:36.000I mean imagine if that was like right next to the woods and you know that if you didn't go into the woods you'd be okay.
02:20:41.000But if you did go into the woods there's a giant gray thing that moves 30 miles an hour that just bites the legs and arms off of everything it runs into.
02:22:35.000The bull sharks, they're a weird animal.
02:22:38.000I think that monster guy, that television show River Monsters, that dude, that cool guy, I think that guy caught one somewhere, if I remember correctly.
02:22:47.000That guy that used to hang out with Wild Boys, Steve-O and Chris Pontius, Manny, he got into that water in the bay at San Francisco with like 200 bull sharks.
02:24:04.000Despite the fact that Stallone was sued by Wepner in 2003 for using his story for Rocky, he ultimately settled for an undisclosed amount of money in 2006, according to Forbes.
02:24:14.000Seems to be in a good spirit about Wepner's tale being told on the big screen.
02:24:18.000In an interview with Deadline, Chuck, producer Mike Tolan, said that Stallone was supportive of everyone involved, reading the script and even showing up on set.
02:24:44.000No, but it kind of makes sense that that would be based on because Carl Weathers was kind of like a Muhammad Ali character and Rocky Balboa was kind of like Chuck Wepner.
02:24:52.000But if I remember that fight correctly, I remember Muhammad Ali beating the shit out of Chuck Wepner.
02:24:59.000I don't remember it being like a close fight.
02:25:52.000The story of Rocky is this guy who actually was a good fighter but just never focused himself decides to focus himself for this preposterous opportunity to fight for the title and actually hurts him.
02:26:03.000Actually hurts him and it's a draw at the end of the fight.
02:26:06.000It's a crazy fucking war and turns out to be a draw.
02:28:34.000Well, if you watch, like, Tom Cruise in Collateral, when he goes into the Japanese bar in Koreatown or whatever it is, he's using tactical shooting, you know, like it's real tactical.
02:28:45.000I always knew that Tom Cruise was an ultimate professional, you know, that's why he gets 20, 80 million a movie, the whole deal, but...
02:28:53.000When I talked to our boy, he was telling me, nah, that all these movies now, you go over there five, six months before the movie starts.
02:29:01.000And it's, you know, eight hours of training.
02:29:04.000I mean, you got to give it up for your boy John Wick.
02:29:52.000I had a friend that lived on the second floor and he would just peg off kids and As they were walking home from school, Richie Vanacek, he was in school too, so he would run home from school, go on his second, third floor attic, lay on the floor like a mercenary,
02:33:00.000The cop, the black dude in North Carolina, whoever he was, I don't know where he was, I'm sorry if it's North Carolina, he was smoking a blunt.
02:33:08.000The cop pulled him over, he fucking dragged the cop, grabbed him by the elbow.
02:33:14.000Jamie, I know you saw it on the news, dragged him twice!
02:35:45.000Body dash cam shows Florida man driving, of course it's from Florida, driving off with a deputy, dragging from his car after a traffic stop.
02:35:53.000The man is now facing an attempted murder charge.
02:35:57.000Okay, was he dragging the car or was the guy hanging on?
02:36:03.000Like, was the guy hanging on while he was trying to drive off?
02:40:59.000By 13, he had already been smoking, like, fucking eight years.
02:41:04.000And I swear to God, he had cavities, so he would just put the cigarette in the tooth gaps and just leave it there and talk to you with the cigarette in the cavity.
02:43:55.000How crazy it would be if you took one of these ads, like if you knew your grandfather died of cancer, and you took one of these ads and fucking took it to the cigarette companies, got some badass attorneys, and said, you know what, man?
02:44:10.000Look at what you guys were putting out in the 50s and 60s.
02:44:15.000Doctor's favorite cigarette is Camel Cigarette?
02:44:36.000They're not saying like my accountant's favorite cigarette.
02:44:40.000They're not saying my police officer's favorite cigarette.
02:44:43.000They're saying doctors to let you know it's going to be okay because they know it's not going to be okay and you know it's not going to be okay.
02:46:47.000This says that when people were doing it, they would say it was embalming fluid because it would make you turn into a zombie, but it was really just PCP. Oh!
02:47:42.000How do you know it was PCP? Because years later, I found out THC crystal didn't fucking exist.
02:47:48.000Well, THC crystals is like the crystals off of wheat.
02:47:51.000So what they tell you at that time, you'd ask the dealer, like, where'd you get this from?
02:47:55.000Word on the street was you took stems, you threw them in a pot with boiling water.
02:48:01.000And when it comes to a head, the stuff that stays to the edge, you scrape that off, and you put it into a powder form, and that's what you're snorting.
02:51:22.000It's very dangerous when one person wants to be the only one to talk and tell you what to do and make the rules and be special.
02:51:31.000When you've got that one person that gathers a group of people and has all those people listen to him without question and tries to say that he has the answers, for whatever reason that's appealing to people.
02:51:42.000It's very weird, but people fall into that trap over and over and over again when you have a strong, confident man who is telling you what you know.
02:51:50.000And then you see them giving into the power, and for whatever reason it makes it even more attractive to a certain segment of the population.
02:51:57.000When you see someone reveling in the power of being a cult leader.
02:52:01.000Like, I guarantee you, when that guy in Waco, what the fuck was his name?
02:52:07.000I guarantee you, when he was on the news and talking about how they'll never give up, girls were probably beating down his door trying to get in that cult.
02:52:15.000The crazier and the nuttier and the more...
02:52:20.000The more apocalyptic your message, the more people that want to join.