The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1321

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00:00:05.000 What's happening, baby?

00:00:06.000 What's up, Joe?

00:00:06.000 How are you, brother?

00:00:07.000 I'm feeling great, man.

00:00:08.000 Thanks for having me.

00:00:09.000 You're looking great.

00:00:10.000 Thanks, brother.

00:00:10.000 You're looking rather large.

00:00:11.000 I threatened Joe before the show.

00:00:13.000 I said, you need to start off and tell me how beautiful I am.

00:00:15.000 Strong and pretty.

00:00:17.000 Yeah.

00:00:18.000 Is that your t-shirt company?

00:00:19.000 Yeah, that's my clothing company.

00:00:21.000 It's all through Bunker Branding, and basically, that's basically where I repaid.

00:00:24.000 Try to keep this like a fist from your face.

00:00:26.000 There we go.

00:00:27.000 I'm just afraid everyone's going to hear me breathe like a fat guy.

00:00:31.000 How much...

00:00:32.000 Do you do any cardio?

00:00:34.000 I do, most definitely.

00:00:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:36.000 Have you watched Strongman on ESPN? So, like, when you pull a truck, like 70,000 pounds, you pull it for 100 feet with a harness restraining your chest, like, not expulsion, but...

00:00:47.000 Your chest expansion.

00:00:49.000 That's the hardest cardio I've ever done.

00:00:52.000 I've played football for a long time.

00:00:53.000 I can only imagine.

00:00:55.000 But I was thinking that.

00:00:56.000 You have to have some cardiovascular strength to do some of those routines.

00:00:59.000 Some of the different challenges that you guys have to do.

00:01:02.000 For sure.

00:01:02.000 And normally, worlds will start with what we call a load medley.

00:01:06.000 So you'll have, normally like four implements, like you'll have two kegs and two sandbags.

00:01:11.000 And the kegs will both weigh 265 pounds, and the sandbags will be 330. That's what we did last year, which was fucking brutal.

00:01:19.000 But you'll have to load each one of them onto a platform that's about 60 feet away.

00:01:25.000 So, you know, if you get going, it's not just cardio.

00:01:28.000 You have to have diaphragm strength, too.

00:01:30.000 Like, if you've got a weak diaphragm, you're just going to fold.

00:01:33.000 I've seen guys black out, and I've seen guys black out at World's Strongest Man.

00:01:37.000 So, how does one strengthen their diaphragm?

00:01:41.000 What we do, the normal exercise we did, it doesn't really have a name.

00:01:47.000 It's just kind of something we made up.

00:01:48.000 You'll lay on your back, and you take, like, a sandbag and put it over your upper abdomen.

00:01:54.000 And you'll expand.

00:01:55.000 You'll push out really hard.

00:01:56.000 And you try and hold it for, say, like two minutes.

00:02:00.000 And you learn to take tight little breaths while flexing your upper abdominals.

00:02:06.000 Whoa.

00:02:06.000 I can spoke.

00:02:07.000 Yeah.

00:02:08.000 So you've got the weight on you.

00:02:10.000 Right.

00:02:11.000 And you just...

00:02:12.000 Yep.

00:02:13.000 And you stay flexed.

00:02:14.000 And it's like, you know how you see fighters taking punches just to keep tight?

00:02:18.000 Yeah.

00:02:19.000 Similar thing.

00:02:20.000 And so like me, I have a big barrel gut, like a big chest and gut, but it's solid.

00:02:26.000 Yeah.

00:02:26.000 I literally get, like, I'll brag a little bit.

00:02:28.000 I've got side abs in the morning sometimes, you know?

00:02:31.000 Actually, I gotta say this.

00:02:32.000 The best compliment I was ever given, I put up a post and it was me drinking coffee in the morning just naked but, like, from, like, the hip up.

00:02:41.000 And somebody gave me a compliment that actually comes from something you said.

00:02:45.000 They said, damn, Robert's got a really good dick root.

00:02:48.000 laughter I think I invented dick root.

00:02:52.000 Dick root is when those dudes...

00:02:54.000 I don't understand why dudes do that.

00:02:55.000 They wear their shorts so low that you basically see the top of their cock.

00:03:00.000 You see the root.

00:03:01.000 They've got nothing else to show.

00:03:02.000 That's a weird move.

00:03:04.000 If you Google dick root, that's all that comes up.

00:03:07.000 I think I invented it.

00:03:08.000 I appreciate it.

00:03:09.000 It was a very nice compliment.

00:03:11.000 Congrats on the dick root, bro.

00:03:15.000 It's just a weird thing.

00:03:16.000 I mean, when did guys start doing it?

00:03:18.000 I get girls doing it.

00:03:19.000 I get it.

00:03:20.000 Right.

00:03:20.000 I just don't get guys pulling their shorts all the way down low like that.

00:03:24.000 No.

00:03:25.000 Seems like you're just asking to get pantsed.

00:03:27.000 Like, I don't understand, like, sagging.

00:03:30.000 I guess it, like, it comes out of prison culture?

00:03:32.000 From what I heard.

00:03:33.000 But I hate it now, but I feel like an old man because I used to do it as a kid.

00:03:37.000 Used to sag?

00:03:38.000 Well, I grew up in an area that was, like, it was a very low-income, like, That's the way to say it.

00:04:08.000 Well, my problem is, like, if somebody, like, grabs your pants, like, you're done.

00:04:12.000 Like, you're gonna have to reach for your pants, and then they're gonna punch you in the face.

00:04:16.000 Like, this is a test.

00:04:17.000 You're, like, asking to...

00:04:18.000 You're, like, at a handicap.

00:04:20.000 Yeah.

00:04:20.000 You sound exactly like my father right now.

00:04:23.000 It's, like, exactly what he would say.

00:04:25.000 You're gonna get your ass kicked.

00:04:27.000 Yeah, I have friends that tried it, like...

00:04:29.000 Even 10, 15 years ago.

00:04:31.000 A guy's my age.

00:04:32.000 I was like, what in the fuck are you doing?

00:04:34.000 What are you doing?

00:04:35.000 The thing now is skinny jeans and sagging, which is counterproductive in a way.

00:04:40.000 It just doesn't seem like it goes together.

00:04:42.000 Right.

00:04:42.000 They're trying to combine styles.

00:04:44.000 They don't understand what they're doing.

00:04:45.000 Right.

00:04:45.000 Well, I mean, if they've got a good enough dick root, then maybe that's what it is.

00:04:50.000 They just got to show...

00:04:52.000 Do you wear regular jeans or do you wear like the stretchy type jeans?

00:04:57.000 These are stretchy.

00:04:57.000 Revtown jeans?

00:04:58.000 Yeah.

00:04:58.000 These are stretchy.

00:04:59.000 I love those, man.

00:05:00.000 You can move.

00:05:01.000 I can't go back to regular jeans.

00:05:02.000 Right.

00:05:03.000 Once you wear like Revtowns or barbells or any of those kind of things, fuck all those regular jeans.

00:05:08.000 Damn, man.

00:05:09.000 I mean, I ripped so many jeans just sitting down, you know?

00:05:12.000 Well, I think with your size, like, it must be fucking so hard to just find clothes.

00:05:16.000 Right.

00:05:16.000 And I'm built differently.

00:05:18.000 Like, my waist is like a 40, but my inseam's like a 34. And so normally, like, if you find a 40 waist, it's like a 28 or a 30 leg.

00:05:28.000 So it's like for a shorter...

00:05:29.000 Like, chubby guys.

00:05:32.000 You can still say fat guys and no one gets mad.

00:05:35.000 If you say fat girls, people are like, hey, don't be so insensitive.

00:05:39.000 But fat guys don't catch a break.

00:05:41.000 Nobody gives a fuck about fat guys.

00:05:43.000 Deal with it, fat guys.

00:05:44.000 Fucking deal with it.

00:05:45.000 Fat guys are happy they're fat sometimes.

00:05:47.000 That's true.

00:05:47.000 That's the difference.

00:05:48.000 Fat girls will pretend they're happy they're fat, but they're really sad on the inside.

00:05:52.000 So there you go.

00:05:53.000 But fat guys, especially if they drink, they're like, ha, ha, ha.

00:05:57.000 Like Burt Kreischer.

00:05:58.000 Burt Kreischer does not seem to give a fuck that he's fat.

00:06:00.000 No.

00:06:01.000 He does not have a problem with it.

00:06:02.000 No.

00:06:02.000 He takes his shirt off the moment he gets on stage.

00:06:04.000 Doesn't care.

00:06:05.000 He'll do it on daytime TV. Yes.

00:06:07.000 If he doesn't, people get mad at him.

00:06:09.000 Yeah.

00:06:10.000 If he doesn't take his shirt off, people are like, hey.

00:06:12.000 Come on, Bert.

00:06:13.000 You're the fat guy that gets naked.

00:06:15.000 Where's your shirt?

00:06:15.000 Get naked.

00:06:16.000 Dance, monkey.

00:06:17.000 Yeah, take it off.

00:06:18.000 That's part of your gig.

00:06:19.000 It's like, what's his name?

00:06:21.000 Gallagher, without a watermelon.

00:06:22.000 No sledgehammer?

00:06:23.000 Get the fuck out of here.

00:06:25.000 Speaking of him, what are you guys thinking for Sober October?

00:06:28.000 We really haven't decided yet.

00:06:30.000 Bert wanted us to do some dance contests.

00:06:32.000 He could suck my dick.

00:06:33.000 Because he wanted to do that so he could just win without working hard.

00:06:36.000 Or just take his clothes off.

00:06:36.000 I get it.

00:06:37.000 I'm getting crazy!

00:06:38.000 I'm gonna win!

00:06:39.000 Ooh!

00:06:40.000 Right.

00:06:41.000 But how about this?

00:06:41.000 No chance.

00:06:43.000 What if they found a way to score a dance thing so there is no judgment and it was points based on athletic types of movements or something like that?

00:06:54.000 I'm sure the internet could come up with a way.

00:06:56.000 Because I understand what you're saying and what you're saying makes total sense about how you earned that shit.

00:07:01.000 You want it to be regulated.

00:07:02.000 Especially last year.

00:07:04.000 Because last year we literally were killing ourselves.

00:07:07.000 We were working.

00:07:07.000 Working out seven hours a day.

00:07:09.000 And I was just trying to grind those guys in the ground.

00:07:11.000 I was like, I'm just going to take you to deep water and see.

00:07:14.000 It was awesome, man.

00:07:15.000 I fucking loved it.

00:07:15.000 I loved it.

00:07:16.000 I couldn't stop watching.

00:07:17.000 Well, Bert was talking shit.

00:07:18.000 And that's when I was like, oh, I cannot have this guy win.

00:07:21.000 This is not going to happen.

00:07:22.000 That's why you fuck up.

00:07:23.000 I knew Ari was going to be a problem because he's crazy.

00:07:25.000 Ari tried really hard.

00:07:27.000 But he doesn't have a lot of experience grinding like that.

00:07:31.000 So he did his best.

00:07:32.000 He hung in there.

00:07:33.000 Yeah.

00:07:35.000 You're a vet with that shit.

00:07:36.000 Yeah, Bert's trying to win this with fucking style points.

00:07:39.000 He can fuck off.

00:07:40.000 No.

00:07:41.000 No, I think if somebody can come up with a way that dancing is, like, regulated in a point system that has nothing to do with people's opinion, to where, like, it's...

00:07:51.000 I don't know even how you would do that, where it's like, there's an athletic type of movement that's required for this, so learning that takes this and gives you that.

00:07:59.000 Yeah, it gives you points.

00:08:00.000 That's the only way it would even work, where it wasn't based on someone's opinion.

00:08:03.000 It's too much time, too.

00:08:05.000 That's the part of the problem.

00:08:06.000 It's like learning how to dance.

00:08:07.000 I did a movie once, Zookeeper, and I had to learn how to do this elaborate dance with Leslie Bibb.

00:08:15.000 That shit took forever.

00:08:17.000 It took weeks, and you were constantly training and drilling and going over the movements, and I don't even like that kind of dancing.

00:08:25.000 It's not like, if I'm doing martial arts and I'm training, I'm interested.

00:08:29.000 I love that.

00:08:30.000 I want to get better at it.

00:08:31.000 I didn't want to get better at dancing.

00:08:33.000 I just wanted it to be over.

00:08:34.000 I just wanted to film the scene so I could fucking relax.

00:08:37.000 Yeah.

00:08:38.000 Move on.

00:08:39.000 Yeah, so I don't know what we're going to do.

00:08:40.000 We haven't decided.

00:08:42.000 Well, we're all waiting.

00:08:43.000 Yeah.

00:08:44.000 I said we should have a hold your breath competition.

00:08:47.000 Oh, that'd be cool.

00:08:48.000 Yeah.

00:08:49.000 Underwater.

00:08:50.000 That takes practice.

00:08:52.000 I mean, I think you guys have to add something in.

00:08:54.000 My favorite part of it was seeing you be like, nah, fuck this.

00:08:58.000 We'll all go to the gates of hell.

00:09:01.000 That's me.

00:09:02.000 I love talking trash, right?

00:09:04.000 That's my thing.

00:09:05.000 And in Strongman, it's not very popular.

00:09:07.000 Really?

00:09:08.000 Oh, no, they don't.

00:09:09.000 It's very old school.

00:09:11.000 You're supposed to do your work, not act like you're supposed to get paid, not act like you're supposed to want any attention, not draw any attention towards yourself.

00:09:18.000 Really?

00:09:19.000 It's like karate in 1960. It's old school.

00:09:24.000 Be respectful of the weight.

00:09:26.000 And I totally get that.

00:09:27.000 I understand that.

00:09:29.000 I mean, I don't think anyone can get to the top echelon without having that respect.

00:09:34.000 But...

00:09:36.000 It's ridiculous for people who've never been on that level to tell other people how they're supposed to behave.

00:09:44.000 If I want to talk shit, I'm going to talk shit.

00:09:46.000 I do.

00:09:47.000 I was talking shit to you when you first started coming out.

00:09:50.000 That's just what we do.

00:09:51.000 Yeah, it's fun.

00:09:52.000 Talking shit is fun.

00:09:53.000 And also, I feel like that makes it more entertaining, and we want more eyes on the sport.

00:09:58.000 Exactly.

00:09:59.000 I mean, that's my argument about the UFC. I always like it when people talk some shit.

00:10:03.000 Right.

00:10:04.000 And win or lose, sometimes you have to eat that.

00:10:06.000 Ben Askren.

00:10:08.000 Exactly.

00:10:09.000 Flatline.

00:10:10.000 That was brutal.

00:10:11.000 But, I mean, he also took that on the chin.

00:10:12.000 He put up a post right after that, like, well, that sucked.

00:10:15.000 Yeah.

00:10:15.000 He takes it on the chin better than anybody.

00:10:17.000 He's got a great personality.

00:10:18.000 And Masvidal said, it's not even over.

00:10:21.000 Masvidal said, listen, he goes, I don't like that dude.

00:10:23.000 He goes, if I see him at Whole Foods, he's getting smacked up.

00:10:25.000 Oh, shit.

00:10:26.000 Can you imagine the guy flatlines you with the fucking fastest ever KO in UFC history and he's promising you that if you're looking for Brussels sprouts, it's gonna smack you in the face.

00:10:34.000 Yeah.

00:10:35.000 Oh, man.

00:10:35.000 He already gave him two extra shots to the face.

00:10:37.000 Which, by the way, people are giving him shit for it.

00:10:40.000 That's his job.

00:10:40.000 Yes.

00:10:41.000 It's go till the referee stops you.

00:10:43.000 Well, especially when there's a heated contest like that where you talk so much shit.

00:10:48.000 And he insulted Masvidal's manhood.

00:10:51.000 He talked about his ethnicity.

00:10:54.000 He said a lot of shit that really pissed Masvidal off.

00:10:58.000 And he had a statement about it.

00:11:00.000 He's like, why is it okay to talk all this shit online about me before the fight?

00:11:04.000 But then after I knock him out, I'm not supposed to showboat?

00:11:07.000 I'm not supposed to celebrate?

00:11:08.000 Get the fuck out of here.

00:11:10.000 If you got a problem with it, stop him.

00:11:12.000 Winners get to do what they want.

00:11:13.000 He's ice cold, man.

00:11:14.000 When he said, and it's not over.

00:11:16.000 If I see him, he's getting smacked.

00:11:17.000 I was like, oh my god.

00:11:19.000 That is so intense.

00:11:21.000 Savage.

00:11:22.000 That move, though, was so brilliant because Askren always grabs your legs.

00:11:22.000 Savage.

00:11:27.000 And if you get that close to him, he's going to think almost like he has to grab you.

00:11:32.000 It's his instinct.

00:11:33.000 And you saw him, like, I saw somebody put a video up in practice, and he rounded it out to the outside, and then acted as if it was going to be just a normal step, and then it's two quick steps on the knee.

00:11:43.000 Oh, and you see how stiff he was before he hit the...

00:11:46.000 I'm sure you saw, but damn, he was stiff.

00:11:48.000 Yeah, his head was up, and one leg was up.

00:11:51.000 I mean, he was stiff.

00:11:53.000 That was a...

00:11:54.000 Here he is practicing.

00:11:55.000 Yeah.

00:11:57.000 That was an absolutely ruthless KO. And it's the fastest ever UFC KO at five seconds, but really he was out cold at two.

00:12:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:07.000 It just took the ref a few seconds to get there.

00:12:09.000 Yeah, whatever, maybe three, I guess, maybe.

00:12:11.000 I mean, whatever it took for him to run over there.

00:12:13.000 It seems like two seconds.

00:12:15.000 It was like one, 1,000, two, it's over.

00:12:18.000 Out.

00:12:19.000 Yeah.

00:12:19.000 Fuck.

00:12:20.000 Fuck.

00:12:20.000 Well, at least he got a lot of face time before he got in the ring.

00:12:24.000 Yeah.

00:12:24.000 Have you ever thought about fighting as big as you are?

00:12:27.000 No.

00:12:28.000 I mean, I messed around with wrestling and stuff.

00:12:31.000 I worked with Jon Jones with the supplement company for a while.

00:12:34.000 Oh, really?

00:12:35.000 Yeah.

00:12:35.000 And I know a lot of fighters.

00:12:37.000 I know a lot of old school wrestlers.

00:12:38.000 I've got a lot of friends in the industry, but...

00:12:42.000 I'm fucking...

00:12:42.000 Old school wrestler wrestlers or pro wrestlers?

00:12:44.000 Pro wrestlers, sorry.

00:12:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:12:46.000 They're a totally different thing.

00:12:47.000 It's just...

00:12:48.000 But still, that would be a great avenue for you too, right?

00:12:50.000 I did think about that for a while too.

00:12:52.000 It's just...

00:12:53.000 Contractually, it's just...

00:12:55.000 It's a shit show.

00:12:56.000 I'm sure.

00:12:57.000 Injuries and all that stuff too would take you out of competition.

00:13:00.000 Plus, they want...

00:13:01.000 Where I'm at now...

00:13:03.000 I started and worked my ass off just to get a little piece of that pie.

00:13:07.000 And when you go to the WWE or something like that, you have to step back all the way to the ground level.

00:13:14.000 You have to earn your stripes.

00:13:16.000 And I understand that, but I have a son, I have a family, I take care of people.

00:13:20.000 I can't Give up everything that I've earned, like, basically breaking myself for five years just to crawl back up and hopefully, you know, end up where I am.

00:13:29.000 But, you know, it's a cool thing.

00:13:31.000 I was a big fan of wrestling when I was a kid, you know, back in the day.

00:13:35.000 And, you know, like, I love watching it.

00:13:37.000 One of my buddies right now, a guy who was a strong man with me, his name's Braun Strowman, and he's in the WWE. He's a badass, so I love watching him do it sometimes.

00:13:46.000 Do you follow Pujanowski fighting in MMA? I haven't seen a lot of his MMA stuff.

00:13:51.000 I know him, and I've watched him.

00:13:53.000 He's still active.

00:13:54.000 He's freaking crazy, man.

00:13:55.000 He's fucking people up, too, man.

00:13:57.000 He's really getting better.

00:13:58.000 When he first started fighting, he was just this giant dude who was just swinging arm punches, and if he hit you, he would fuck you up.

00:14:06.000 But he got crazy, and he decided to fight Tim Sylvia.

00:14:09.000 Who's a former UFC heavyweight champion, and Tim beat the shit out of him.

00:14:12.000 It was horrible.

00:14:14.000 I don't know why he thought he could beat Tim Sylvia.

00:14:17.000 He thought that Tim was washed up or older.

00:14:19.000 How old is Tim now?

00:14:23.000 How long has he been out of the game?

00:14:24.000 He's definitely in his 40s.

00:14:27.000 I don't know.

00:14:28.000 How old is Tim?

00:14:30.000 Tim's giant now.

00:14:32.000 It's probably 400 pounds.

00:14:33.000 See, that's me.

00:14:35.000 I'm 400 pounds.

00:14:36.000 I can't cut both my legs off to make 265. Well, I think that's so weird that they have a 265 cutoff, because heavyweight is supposed to be the biggest guy.

00:14:45.000 Right.

00:14:45.000 Like, in boxing, you remember that dude, Valiwev, who fought...

00:14:49.000 Who did he fight?

00:14:50.000 Did he fight Holyfield?

00:14:52.000 He was, like, seven feet tall, this giant-ass Russian dude.

00:14:56.000 Yeah.

00:14:56.000 He was fucking enormous, this boxer, but he was well over 300 pounds.

00:15:00.000 Seven foot tall, he'd be skinny at 300. Yeah, but he was big, man.

00:15:03.000 He had gigantitis or whatever it is when you have a pituitary gland tumor.

00:15:07.000 Yeah.

00:15:08.000 What is that?

00:15:08.000 See if you can find that guy.

00:15:09.000 Value of...

00:15:11.000 I think he fought Holyfield.

00:15:13.000 I think Holyfield beat him for the title, which is even crazier when you think that Holyfield started his career at 190. He started his career as a cruiserweight.

00:15:21.000 195 pounds.

00:15:21.000 Really?

00:15:22.000 I didn't know that.

00:15:23.000 Yeah.

00:15:24.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:15:24.000 Here's the guy.

00:15:26.000 Jesus.

00:15:26.000 Evander Holyfield and Valuev.

00:15:26.000 Look at this.

00:15:28.000 And this is in 2008. Look at the size of that guy, man.

00:15:31.000 I mean, get the fuck out of here.

00:15:33.000 He's so big, man.

00:15:35.000 But I think when guys are that big, like with that giantitis or gigantitis, they're always hurting.

00:15:42.000 Everything hurts.

00:15:43.000 Your knees hurt, your elbows.

00:15:45.000 It's like you can't really move that good.

00:15:47.000 I know a lot of guys.

00:15:49.000 Andre the Giant was my hero growing up.

00:15:51.000 He was like my first real hero.

00:15:53.000 And I knew a lot of guys who had known him.

00:15:55.000 I actually met Roddy Roddy Piper like three weeks before he passed.

00:15:59.000 And I was wearing an Andre the Giant shirt.

00:16:01.000 And we got to sit in the VIP section at a baseball game.

00:16:05.000 And he was badass, man.

00:16:06.000 He was so fucking cool.

00:16:07.000 I wanted to get that guy on the podcast.

00:16:09.000 And Tony Hinchcliffe was actually trying to set it up.

00:16:11.000 But then he died.

00:16:12.000 Yeah.

00:16:12.000 He used to go to the comedy store a lot.

00:16:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:16.000 He even went on stage a couple times there.

00:16:18.000 Yeah.

00:16:19.000 He would just tell stories, man.

00:16:20.000 He was awesome.

00:16:21.000 He was like one of the first guys also to cross over into movies.

00:16:25.000 Obviously, Andre was first.

00:16:27.000 He did a few guest spots in movies.

00:16:29.000 Princess Bride.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:30.000 But he was a star of They Live.

00:16:32.000 Remember that?

00:16:33.000 Mm-hmm.

00:16:33.000 The John Carpenter movie?

00:16:34.000 That's a great fucking movie.

00:16:36.000 Huge.

00:16:36.000 Yeah.

00:16:37.000 So he was in that, too.

00:16:38.000 So cool.

00:16:39.000 Yeah, he was a fun guy, man.

00:16:41.000 Yeah, we're actually, what I was, what we're doing, the whole, basically the reason I was here to talk about a TV show, this next season, season two, we're going to do, we, so I'll start over.

00:16:53.000 We, the whole TV show is based on us doing acts of strength throughout, for strong men throughout history.

00:17:00.000 And what is the name of the show called?

00:17:01.000 History Strongest Man.

00:17:03.000 Strongest Man in History.

00:17:04.000 And this is an ESPN show?

00:17:05.000 It's on History.

00:17:06.000 Oh, it's on History Channel.

00:17:07.000 Oh, that's awesome.

00:17:08.000 So, one of the episodes next season we're hoping to do is Andre the Giant, which we're going to talk about.

00:17:13.000 But what we do is we travel to where a historical strongman lived or where he did this famous feat of strength.

00:17:20.000 And we recreate those feats of strength and we kind of talk about who they are as people and stuff.

00:17:25.000 And bring to light a lot of the cool aspects that most people lose.

00:17:29.000 So, it'd be cool to...

00:17:31.000 Take somebody like Andre the Giant and meet with his daughter and figure out little parts that people haven't really paid attention to and bring that to light.

00:17:41.000 One of my favorite episodes we did was this guy, Peter Francisco, who was born in...

00:17:47.000 I think it was Colombia.

00:17:51.000 Am I mistaken?

00:17:53.000 Peter Francisco.

00:17:53.000 There we go.

00:17:54.000 The Virginia Giant in Portugal.

00:17:56.000 There you go.

00:17:57.000 So he was born to a wealthy family and was kidnapped and sold as a slave.

00:18:02.000 And he ended up in America.

00:18:05.000 And at 16, he signed up to fight in the Revolutionary War.

00:18:09.000 He was 6'7", 6'8", just this giant of a man, especially 1776. Yeah, there was nobody that big back then.

00:18:17.000 You know, a lot of people don't realize Jack Johnson, the former heavyweight champion who they called the Galveston Giant, I think he was only 6'3".

00:18:25.000 Pull up Jack Johnson and see how big he was.

00:18:29.000 He towered over everybody else he fought.

00:18:31.000 Like Rocky Marciano was 185 pounds, 189 pounds, like somewhere around there.

00:18:36.000 It says he was only six foot tall.

00:18:38.000 What?

00:18:39.000 That's what Google popped up from is Wikipedia.

00:18:42.000 Hmm.

00:18:42.000 I think he's a little taller than that.

00:18:44.000 But he was a giant back then.

00:18:46.000 Right.

00:18:46.000 They called him the Galveston Giant.

00:18:48.000 Well, everybody was so poor then.

00:18:49.000 They didn't have any food.

00:18:51.000 Right.

00:18:51.000 You know, the turn of the century.

00:18:53.000 Yeah, everybody's struggling.

00:18:54.000 Six foot tall is whatever.

00:18:55.000 That's crazy!

00:18:56.000 See?

00:18:57.000 That's crazy.

00:18:57.000 Joe Lewis was 6'2", Jack Dempsey 6'1".

00:19:00.000 Wow!

00:19:01.000 And Marciano, I think, was 5'10".

00:19:03.000 Hmm.

00:19:05.000 I think Marciano was 5'10", 185 pounds.

00:19:08.000 It's crazy because Jack Johnson towered over everybody and was fucking everybody up.

00:19:13.000 I mean, it's a food thing, man.

00:19:15.000 No one had any fucking food back then.

00:19:17.000 If you look at the size of the people that fought during the Civil War, they were tiny-ass people.

00:19:22.000 Right.

00:19:22.000 Like, really tiny, like 125-pound men.

00:19:25.000 I didn't even go back further.

00:19:26.000 All the skeletons.

00:19:27.000 Look at that picture of him.

00:19:28.000 They're making it out like he's giant.

00:19:29.000 Look at the picture on the right.

00:19:30.000 Look at his back.

00:19:32.000 He is pretty jacked.

00:19:34.000 But yeah, sure.

00:19:35.000 He's definitely jacked.

00:19:37.000 Look, he's big.

00:19:39.000 But in comparison to a real heavyweight today, if you put him next to Anthony Joshua, Joshua would be towering over Deontay Wilder who's 6'7".

00:19:50.000 Yeah.

00:19:51.000 Or Francis Ngannou, you know, big giant dudes.

00:19:55.000 Real, legit giant dudes.

00:19:56.000 People that weren't that big back then.

00:19:57.000 So that guy, the wrestler, the Portuguese guy, I mean, that must have been unbelievable to see someone that big back then.

00:20:04.000 Insane.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:05.000 And what was cool is, like, there's a lot of cool things that you find out.

00:20:09.000 Like, George Washington...

00:20:10.000 I had a quote on his gravestone that said that there were several battles that we would not have had go the same way, and we don't know if we would have even been able to win the war if it wasn't for him.

00:20:19.000 He was a one-man army.

00:20:21.000 And for George Washington to say that, that's huge.

00:20:24.000 That's crazy.

00:20:25.000 So it was cool to get to talk about him and all the things he had done and show a little love for a guy who I'd never even heard of.

00:20:33.000 There was the story.

00:20:34.000 He was on the battlefield and he was pulling people off of horses and basically beating them to death because he ran out of bullets.

00:20:43.000 And then as he goes marching up towards this guy who pulls his musket out to shoot at him and the musket misfires, he takes the musket from him and beats him to death with his own musket.

00:20:52.000 Stuff like that.

00:20:52.000 Oh my god.

00:20:53.000 Or when the battle was over, they had a cannon stuck in the mud.

00:20:57.000 And this is one of the feats of strength we did.

00:20:59.000 They had a cannon stuck in the mud and he didn't want the British to end up with it.

00:21:02.000 So he just yanks the thing off of the wheels, puts it on his shoulder and marches off with it.

00:21:06.000 How much did it weigh?

00:21:07.000 It depends.

00:21:08.000 Depends on the story that you believe.

00:21:10.000 When we went, I don't want to get too much into it, but when we went, that's the biggest question was.

00:21:15.000 Because anybody who's ever lifted a bunch of weight and thrown things around, it's like, that sounds pretty crazy.

00:21:21.000 Because cannons can go from anywhere of, like...

00:21:23.000 Like a normal field cannon will be like 300 pounds, but they've got field cannons from that era that are 1,000 pounds.

00:21:31.000 And depending on who tells the story, that's what we try and figure out with it.

00:21:37.000 How the fuck would you even get that on your shoulder if it's in the mud?

00:21:40.000 So you're staying in the mud, so you don't have a firm ground to push off against.

00:21:40.000 Exactly.

00:21:44.000 So we're in the...

00:21:44.000 Right.

00:21:45.000 Squashing around in the mud, and you've got this giant...

00:21:49.000 Cannon you're trying to throw on your shoulders.

00:21:51.000 Fucking A, man.

00:21:51.000 No handles.

00:21:53.000 Right after battle, too.

00:21:55.000 The guy was a savage.

00:21:56.000 It was really cool.

00:21:58.000 Afterwards, he ended up a wealthy man and was taken care of.

00:22:02.000 It was a really cool story.

00:22:05.000 I was actually pretty proud to get to tell that one.

00:22:07.000 That's awesome.

00:22:08.000 A lot of them were like that.

00:22:09.000 How did you get involved with doing strongman competitions?

00:22:13.000 I played football.

00:22:14.000 I played football for a long time.

00:22:16.000 And then, you know, football was done with me.

00:22:19.000 Basically, I didn't want to have a real job.

00:22:24.000 Just to be totally honest, I'm not a 9-to-5 sitting in an office guy.

00:22:28.000 I don't think anybody is.

00:22:29.000 I don't think so either.

00:22:30.000 I really don't.

00:22:31.000 No, it's a terrible way to live.

00:22:32.000 And there's people listening right now that are like, that's what I'm doing!

00:22:36.000 Fuck this place!

00:22:37.000 Get out!

00:22:38.000 Get out while you can.

00:22:39.000 Get out!

00:22:40.000 I'm telling you, I convinced one of my best friends to quit his job and come with me to China for a week.

00:22:45.000 And then, of course, you have to struggle and find your way.

00:22:48.000 But then after that, it was the best thing he's ever done.

00:22:51.000 Yeah.

00:22:52.000 Definitely better off being a nomad.

00:22:54.000 Yeah.

00:22:54.000 Just find something.

00:22:55.000 You'll feel better, you know?

00:22:58.000 Like, I was talking to a friend of mine today about Thailand.

00:22:58.000 Exactly.

00:23:01.000 When I went to Thailand last year, it kind of reshaped my idea of what makes people happy.

00:23:06.000 Because everybody over there is wearing flip-flops and fucking shorts.

00:23:10.000 Everything is real cheap.

00:23:12.000 Food's real cheap.

00:23:13.000 There's no extravagance.

00:23:15.000 And everybody's happy.

00:23:16.000 And like my friend John Wayne Parr, he says it's the land of smiles.

00:23:19.000 That's what he calls it.

00:23:20.000 And I was like, okay, he lived there and trained there for a long time.

00:23:23.000 But I'm like, well, I didn't get it until I went there.

00:23:26.000 And I'm like, goddammit, everybody's happy.

00:23:28.000 But you'll drive by, you'll see like a fucking kid, a baby, sitting on the gas tank of a motorcycle while a guy's driving.

00:23:36.000 And the lady's behind him.

00:23:38.000 And she's holding on to the guy's waist.

00:23:40.000 And he's got one hand on the handlebars and one hand on a baby.

00:23:43.000 And I'm like, what in the fuck am I seeing?

00:23:45.000 And they're wearing flip-flops.

00:23:47.000 And they're just, everyone's happy.

00:23:49.000 I haven't been to Thailand, but it's like that in parts of China, like rural parts of China.

00:23:54.000 It's a lot like that.

00:23:55.000 I've seen people tied to each other on a motorcycle just so that people wouldn't fall off.

00:24:00.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:24:01.000 What a terrible idea.

00:24:02.000 It's so bad.

00:24:03.000 Bill Burr sent me a fucking horrible video yesterday of this guy.

00:24:06.000 These two guys are riding like assholes on a bridge with motorcycles weaving in and out of traffic, and one guy loses control of the bike, and he hits the cement barrier on the edge of the bridge and then goes off the edge.

00:24:17.000 Oh, my God.

00:24:18.000 Yeah, just watch it.

00:24:19.000 Bang!

00:24:20.000 When he flies off.

00:24:22.000 It's like all I've been seeing the last week, too.

00:24:25.000 We just did this.

00:24:26.000 Oh, here it is.

00:24:26.000 Jamie got it already.

00:24:27.000 Jamie's the fastest guler in the West.

00:24:29.000 You're on it.

00:24:30.000 See, these guys are flying.

00:24:31.000 Look at this.

00:24:32.000 Oh, he touched, too.

00:24:32.000 Boom!

00:24:34.000 Yeah, that's a wrap.

00:24:35.000 You see him put his foot down and try and collect himself?

00:24:37.000 Yeah, and watch when you see when they pull over and you get to look at how far this motherfucker dropped.

00:24:43.000 Like, he's done, Zero.

00:24:44.000 Shit.

00:24:45.000 That is...

00:24:46.000 That guy's got his hands in his pockets.

00:24:50.000 Of course it's Florida.

00:24:51.000 Looks like it.

00:24:52.000 Sure it's Florida.

00:24:52.000 Fucking assholes.

00:24:53.000 It's gotta be Florida.

00:24:55.000 He probably landed right on an alligator.

00:24:57.000 Ugh.

00:24:58.000 Ugh.

00:25:00.000 He would have been fine.

00:25:02.000 But now he's chewed up.

00:25:03.000 I read a story in Florida about Tampa.

00:25:05.000 It was!

00:25:06.000 Tampa, Florida!

00:25:07.000 Of course!

00:25:07.000 Called it.

00:25:08.000 Of course, man.

00:25:09.000 Florida is a fucking mess, man.

00:25:10.000 I was there for two weeks.

00:25:12.000 I was scared shitless the whole time.

00:25:13.000 I've been everywhere.

00:25:14.000 It's Florida.

00:25:15.000 I was like paying attention to everyone walking around me.

00:25:18.000 People on bath salts eating people's faces.

00:25:21.000 Exactly.

00:25:21.000 Everything fucked up happens there.

00:25:23.000 They just issued a shoot to kill on iguanas.

00:25:27.000 They're trying to get people to kill as many iguanas.

00:25:28.000 Apparently there's so many iguanas there that they're digging holes under bridges and roads and roads are collapsing.

00:25:36.000 Yeah.

00:25:36.000 Buildings are collapsing because they're digging trenches under the foundations.

00:25:41.000 That's so crazy.

00:25:42.000 And they're big, like five feet long.

00:25:44.000 What do you got?

00:25:44.000 What's his smile on his face?

00:25:47.000 Florida iguana hunter mistakes pool boy before iguana shoots him.

00:25:52.000 Florida!

00:25:53.000 You gotta get your shit together, guys.

00:25:55.000 Come on.

00:25:55.000 It's not going to happen.

00:25:56.000 My sister lives in Florida.

00:25:58.000 She's probably listening to this.

00:25:59.000 Laura, get out of there.

00:26:01.000 Run.

00:26:01.000 Run for your lives.

00:26:03.000 It's a fucking goofy place to live, man.

00:26:05.000 It really is.

00:26:05.000 It's so crazy.

00:26:06.000 It's a goofy place to live.

00:26:08.000 But for people who like chaos and partying, it's fun.

00:26:11.000 Yeah.

00:26:12.000 That's what it's all about.

00:26:14.000 Yeah.

00:26:14.000 My friend Billy Corbin, he made Cocaine Cowboys 1 and 2. He fucking loves it down there.

00:26:20.000 And he's a smart guy.

00:26:21.000 And he lives in Miami and he just fucking loves it.

00:26:24.000 He enjoys the chaos.

00:26:26.000 Yeah.

00:26:27.000 I mean, I guess if you can separate yourself enough that you don't feel crazy on the inside.

00:26:31.000 I don't know how you can.

00:26:33.000 I couldn't do that here in LA. Like, I mean, LA is not even a quarter of that.

00:26:37.000 But, like, I lived in Playa Del Rey and in Sherman Oaks for two and a half years.

00:26:41.000 And I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.

00:26:43.000 You know what the problem with this place is?

00:26:44.000 There's so much instability.

00:26:46.000 Because there's so many people that want to be something other than what they are.

00:26:50.000 That's a big part of this place.

00:26:50.000 Right.

00:26:52.000 Yeah.

00:26:52.000 Whereas, like, you live in Texas now.

00:26:54.000 Yeah.

00:26:54.000 Those are people.

00:26:56.000 Those are real people.

00:26:57.000 I fucking love Texas.

00:26:59.000 They are people.

00:27:01.000 They don't have any illusions of becoming famous from some fucking reality show.

00:27:04.000 Or if they do, they're the anomaly.

00:27:06.000 They're not the norm.

00:27:08.000 Out here, it seems like everybody...

00:27:10.000 Well, not everybody, but a giant percentage of the people that came here came here with some dream.

00:27:14.000 They came here with some dream of being an actor.

00:27:16.000 Some dream of being famous.

00:27:18.000 Some dream of, you know...

00:27:19.000 Of making it.

00:27:19.000 Right.

00:27:20.000 And then they got jobs.

00:27:22.000 And so there's this weird instability and this need for acceptance and this need for recognition.

00:27:29.000 You know, you go to Montana, you don't get any of that.

00:27:32.000 You get regular people.

00:27:34.000 You go to Colorado.

00:27:35.000 Well, Colorado's now filled with stoners.

00:27:37.000 Colorado's crazy.

00:27:38.000 It's getting a little different.

00:27:40.000 Well, now that the shrooms are all illegal there, too, I'm wondering what's going to take time.

00:27:44.000 They're trying to bring in wolves!

00:27:46.000 My friend Johnny Hamilton told me they're trying to stop mountain lion hunting and trying to bring in wolves.

00:27:51.000 Really?

00:27:52.000 Yes!

00:27:53.000 What?

00:27:54.000 Yeah, well, they brought in wolves in the 90s to Yellowstone.

00:27:57.000 I remember, and that went really badly, right?

00:28:00.000 Well, it depends on who you ask.

00:28:02.000 The wildlife people think it went really well because it did a lot of great things in terms of like it preserved a lot of plant species that were getting decimated by elk and deer.

00:28:13.000 The problem is like it happened so quickly that the elk and deer really didn't understand what was going on until they were decimated.

00:28:19.000 Right.

00:28:19.000 And they, you know, in some places they've lost more than 50% of their populations.

00:28:22.000 Oh, But then other people say that they really should have never been that high in the first place.

00:28:26.000 It's hard to understand who's – because, like, you try to be objective.

00:28:30.000 But, you know, I hunt and I eat a lot of elk and deer.

00:28:34.000 So for me, I hear it from hunters that it's a terrible thing.

00:28:38.000 But then you hear it from people that are concerned with balance and wildlife ecology and a balanced ecosystem.

00:28:45.000 They think it's a good thing.

00:28:46.000 Hmm.

00:28:46.000 And so it's very controversial.

00:28:48.000 They don't think there ever should have been these giant herds of elk, you know, like a thousand elk in a field.

00:28:54.000 That's unnatural.

00:28:56.000 And that's akin to apparently what they experienced when a lot of the Native Americans were wiped out by plague.

00:29:05.000 When the European soldiers arrived, when they talk about these great herds of buffalo, like millions of buffalo, they think that the reason why there were so many buffalo was because literally 90% of the Native Americans were killed by European disease.

00:29:19.000 Right.

00:29:19.000 And so these buffalo, during that time period that happened, they just bred...

00:29:25.000 My friend Dan Flores wrote a book on it.

00:29:27.000 Really, really interesting shit, because most people just assume that that's just how it was back then.

00:29:31.000 The buffalo were everywhere, and then the white man came and shot all the buffalo.

00:29:35.000 But apparently the buffalo were only all over the place because the white man came and gave diseases to the Native Americans.

00:29:42.000 Right.

00:29:42.000 It's fucking nuts, man.

00:29:43.000 So, the balance issue.

00:29:45.000 So, I don't know if it's a good idea to bring wolves around people that are on mushrooms, either.

00:29:49.000 That, that too.

00:29:51.000 If it was me, I'd try and pet it, you know?

00:29:53.000 Like, we're good, buddy, you know?

00:29:55.000 I'm reaching out to the forest.

00:29:58.000 I have a friend of mine.

00:29:59.000 She lives in a place in the mountains above Boulder.

00:30:02.000 And there's mountain lions in my neighborhood.

00:30:05.000 Like, when I was living up there, a mountain lion ate my fucking dog.

00:30:08.000 And she was like, well, I just set my intention when I go into the forest.

00:30:15.000 And I let the forest know.

00:30:16.000 I embrace it.

00:30:17.000 I'm here for you.

00:30:18.000 She was a yoga instructor.

00:30:20.000 She might be a little crazy.

00:30:20.000 Yeah.

00:30:22.000 Rest in peace.

00:30:23.000 She's still alive, apparently.

00:30:25.000 Still alive.

00:30:26.000 Yeah.

00:30:28.000 Sat Nam.

00:30:29.000 Namaste, mountain lion.

00:30:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:31.000 That worked out great for Six Feet and Roy, right?

00:30:34.000 Colorado already has some wolves that have been in Colorado.

00:30:39.000 They're entering in the fringes and from other areas where they're present, like Wyoming.

00:30:44.000 You know, in Idaho, there's wolves that are neighboring Colorado that will eventually make their way into Colorado if they give it enough time.

00:30:51.000 The reintroduction of wolves, the issue with that is like it's abrupt and the animals might not know what's going on.

00:30:57.000 And they also make a lot of money off of their hunting activities.

00:31:02.000 Like the tags and all the economy that comes from people that hunt there.

00:31:08.000 Colorado's a big hunting state.

00:31:11.000 Last I heard it was the big Arctic wolves they were bringing into Montana, right?

00:31:15.000 Yeah.

00:31:16.000 Like the giant ones.

00:31:16.000 They're bringing in from Canada into Montana.

00:31:20.000 Right.

00:31:20.000 Okay, so that's the same.

00:31:37.000 I think?

00:31:41.000 If it's cold as fuck, those deer are like 300 pounds when they're fully grown.

00:31:45.000 Like a big male is like a 300 pound deer, which is crazy.

00:31:47.000 They're more than double the size, but it's because of the cold.

00:31:50.000 Right.

00:31:50.000 I never thought about it.

00:31:51.000 That makes sense.

00:31:52.000 I love Texas.

00:31:53.000 Yeah, it's nice.

00:31:53.000 What part do you live in?

00:31:54.000 I'm in New Braunfels, which is right outside of San Antonio.

00:31:57.000 Oh, nice.

00:31:58.000 I've never been to San Antonio.

00:31:59.000 It's nice, man.

00:32:00.000 San Antonio is a cool city.

00:32:01.000 We're actually right between Austin and San Antonio.

00:32:03.000 Oh, that's great.

00:32:04.000 It's perfect.

00:32:05.000 There's like that Riverwalk area.

00:32:07.000 Supposed to be dope.

00:32:08.000 That's cool.

00:32:09.000 I mean, that's like the tourist thing, you know?

00:32:10.000 It's like, um, it's what they do.

00:32:12.000 It's like going to see the Hollywood sign.

00:32:14.000 But like, there's, if you, if you want to have a good time, just let me know when you come to Texas and we'll go do some redneck shit.

00:32:20.000 Well, my friend John Dudley was just there with the Black Rifle Coffee Guys.

00:32:24.000 And they went to some ranch that's just outside of San Antonio that the fucking astronauts used to go to.

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:30.000 He said there's these photos of Neil Armstrong with a fucking deer.

00:32:35.000 Hell yeah.

00:32:36.000 Texas, that is a uniquely American place.

00:32:36.000 Yeah.

00:32:40.000 I think when other people think of America, they really think of Texas.

00:32:44.000 Most people.

00:32:44.000 I mean, if they're thinking America, they'll say it'll be Texas, but if it's like Hollywood, they'll say California, you know?

00:32:52.000 Right.

00:32:52.000 Those are the two.

00:32:53.000 Some people, like, every once in a while think New York.

00:32:56.000 But I think when people think about, like, crazy gun-toting, screaming at football, you know, like, that's Texas.

00:33:04.000 Yeah, guaranteed.

00:33:05.000 Yeah.

00:33:06.000 Driving trucks.

00:33:06.000 100%.

00:33:07.000 Proud of it, too.

00:33:07.000 Proud of it.

00:33:08.000 Damn sure.

00:33:09.000 Well, it's a fun place.

00:33:11.000 A lot of fun.

00:33:13.000 A lot less regulations, a lot more self-accountability.

00:33:17.000 Yeah.

00:33:17.000 Well, they have fucking zebras and giraffes and shit everywhere.

00:33:21.000 They're loose, running around.

00:33:23.000 I work with a—just became an accredited zoo that works a lot with confiscated animals.

00:33:30.000 Yeah.

00:33:30.000 They've got hundreds of animals that basically some redneck was like, oh, I'm going to have a white lion.

00:33:36.000 Can't take care of it, so they take it.

00:33:39.000 These are folks who got high in this abandoned house, and they were in the house in Texas.

00:33:45.000 And they're wandering around this house smoking weed, and they walked into a room with a fucking tiger in a cage.

00:33:51.000 Oh, my God.

00:33:52.000 They called the police.

00:33:54.000 And they had the police come and rescue this fucking tiger.

00:33:57.000 But this was in an abandoned house.

00:33:59.000 The house?

00:33:59.000 Oh, shit.

00:34:00.000 Oh, my God.

00:34:00.000 Yeah, there's just a...

00:34:01.000 I mean, they weren't sure.

00:34:03.000 Like, here, you find it here?

00:34:05.000 Oh, you got these goddamn pop-up ads.

00:34:09.000 They're getting craftier and craftier with these pop-ups.

00:34:12.000 And then you don't know if, like, clicking exit's gonna download something nowadays.

00:34:15.000 Texas Man, look at this.

00:34:16.000 Texas Man enters abandoned home to smoke weed, finds Tiger and Stine instead.

00:34:20.000 That's fucked up, man.

00:34:22.000 Yeah, he thought he was hallucinating.

00:34:24.000 Oh, man.

00:34:27.000 He said it was in a rinky-dink cage in the home's garage.

00:34:30.000 Oh.

00:34:31.000 But it's weird when you treat animals like property, when you can just do whatever you want with them.

00:34:36.000 That's how Texas views exotics.

00:34:40.000 If you have white-tailed deer in Texas, they have pretty liberal tags.

00:34:45.000 You can shoot a good number of them, but you have to get tags.

00:34:48.000 But if you have a black buck, which is an African animal, or a kneel guy or something like that, you can shoot as many as you want.

00:34:55.000 Right.

00:34:55.000 Yeah, you do whatever you want.

00:34:57.000 You sell them to your friends.

00:34:58.000 What does it say?

00:34:59.000 It was secured only with a screwdriver and a nylon strap.

00:35:03.000 Jesus Christ.

00:35:05.000 I hope this guy got some kind of fucking punishment.

00:35:07.000 The guy who owned the fucking house?

00:35:09.000 Yeah.

00:35:09.000 That's a dick move, man.

00:35:11.000 Yeah.

00:35:11.000 That's a beautiful tiger.

00:35:13.000 Yeah, there's something really fucked up about seeing tigers locked up.

00:35:16.000 I don't even like the fact that they feed them.

00:35:19.000 I mean, I feel like you should just let something loose in there.

00:35:22.000 Yeah, that's what I was saying, too.

00:35:24.000 That's what I was saying.

00:35:25.000 Keep that party rolling.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:28.000 What I was told was that that was just not PC, like it wasn't acceptable.

00:35:32.000 I'm sure.

00:35:33.000 Do you ever see the footage of when the U.S. soldiers overtook Baghdad?

00:35:38.000 They had...

00:35:42.000 We're good to go.

00:36:10.000 And that's how they ate.

00:36:12.000 People got pissed, I'm sure.

00:36:13.000 People shouldn't be pissed.

00:36:14.000 That's what it is.

00:36:16.000 If you watch a fucking...

00:36:17.000 You go and see a parrot eating seeds.

00:36:20.000 That's what it eats.

00:36:22.000 Maybe you really identify with seeds and you feel like that's brutal murder of seeds.

00:36:27.000 But that lion wants to do that.

00:36:29.000 That's what makes them a lion.

00:36:31.000 It makes them happy.

00:36:31.000 And it's what they have to do, you know?

00:36:34.000 It's like there's a lot more people getting publicity, not publicity, but there's a lot more people showing that side of things at least.

00:36:41.000 We were talking about right before we came on, there's this Instagram page called Nature is Metal.

00:36:46.000 Yes, I love that page!

00:36:48.000 It's fucking badass, isn't it?

00:36:48.000 He got taken down for a while.

00:36:50.000 He got back up, but he has one of the very best pages.

00:36:55.000 How can you take it down?

00:36:56.000 He had nothing to do with any of those situations.

00:36:59.000 It's not like he had some kind of ulterior motive and came in and put these animals in the situation.

00:37:05.000 That's just reality.

00:37:06.000 Dude, Instagram's cracking down hard lately.

00:37:08.000 I don't understand it.

00:37:10.000 They take all kinds of stuff down for virtually no reason.

00:37:14.000 It's weird.

00:37:16.000 Someone has to complain enough and they'll take it down.

00:37:18.000 Yeah.

00:37:19.000 They need to get that fixed where it's instead of like...

00:37:22.000 I understand it's a lot, right?

00:37:24.000 It's a lot of people.

00:37:25.000 So having a computer regulate that just doesn't work.

00:37:28.000 No.

00:37:28.000 It's not just a computer regulate that.

00:37:30.000 Someone can target you.

00:37:31.000 Like, say maybe you could be doing something and they just decide you're offensive.

00:37:35.000 And then just start, like, make a targeted campaign to complain about your content.

00:37:40.000 Yeah.

00:37:41.000 Yeah, so one of those tattoo girls, she got her post removed, just having her hand above her crotch, like covering her crotch, her legs spread, and showing all her tattoos, and they took down her page.

00:37:56.000 But she's covered up.

00:37:57.000 Makes no sense.

00:37:58.000 I mean, she has that pants on, but you can't see anything.

00:38:01.000 Right.

00:38:01.000 Fuck, what are we doing?

00:38:02.000 Isn't this America?

00:38:03.000 Censoring legs.

00:38:04.000 What kind of shit is this?

00:38:05.000 Texas needs to open a new Instagram.

00:38:07.000 What's that?

00:38:08.000 I'd say that's different than what nature's metal is, though.

00:38:11.000 He might have gotten in trouble for taking, like, photographer's copywritten works and reposting it.

00:38:15.000 It's not different, because she's wildlife.

00:38:16.000 She's being wild.

00:38:17.000 Exactly, and that's her natural habitat.

00:38:19.000 Yeah, she's being wild.

00:38:20.000 Goddammit, young Jimmy.

00:38:21.000 Jesus, Jimmy.

00:38:21.000 I was talking about this with a friend of mine yesterday.

00:38:23.000 Were you a communist?

00:38:24.000 No, like...

00:38:27.000 Selective enforcement of those copyright laws.

00:38:29.000 At what point, if like, you know, YouTube, some stuff is good, even on Instagram.

00:38:33.000 Some stuff they let go and some stuff they don't.

00:38:35.000 At what point are people supposed to understand what is okay and what is not okay?

00:38:40.000 Yeah, it's hard.

00:38:40.000 Well, you also have to think of it.

00:38:42.000 How many people are on Instagram?

00:38:43.000 Let's just guess.

00:38:44.000 I don't know.

00:38:45.000 Let's guess.

00:38:46.000 How many people do you think?

00:38:47.000 I'm not either, but...

00:38:48.000 Fuck.

00:38:49.000 Let's say, we think 100 million?

00:38:51.000 150. More than that.

00:38:52.000 More than that?

00:38:53.000 Probably close to a billion, maybe.

00:38:55.000 Really?

00:38:55.000 500 million, like somewhere in that range, I would say.

00:38:58.000 All right, I'm going to go with 300 million.

00:39:00.000 300 million and one, please.

00:39:03.000 Jamie, you're going with a billion?

00:39:06.000 Yeah.

00:39:07.000 How many people are on Instagram?

00:39:08.000 One billion people use Instagram every month.

00:39:10.000 Jesus Christ.

00:39:11.000 But that's one billion use.

00:39:13.000 Yeah.

00:39:14.000 But what about all the people that are on that don't even use it?

00:39:17.000 So it could be like two.

00:39:18.000 Does that include the Russians?

00:39:20.000 What?

00:39:22.000 Yeah, it's a lot.

00:39:24.000 Jesus Christ.

00:39:25.000 That's crazy.

00:39:26.000 Well, Twitter still lets porn happen.

00:39:28.000 You can still have porn on Twitter.

00:39:30.000 What do they say?

00:39:30.000 It's just because it has an 18-plus warning or something like that?

00:39:34.000 It doesn't even.

00:39:35.000 My feed, I'll be scrolling through my feed.

00:39:39.000 I've got to make sure my kids don't ever grab my phone.

00:39:41.000 Because if they're looking through my phone, I fall.

00:39:43.000 The age thing might be in there, though, because when you sign your account, you say how old you are.

00:39:47.000 It might just be built into the system.

00:39:49.000 That makes sense.

00:39:50.000 A lot of those things are protections for people that are under 13. I don't know why there's that internet rule, but there is some government protections.

00:39:57.000 They need to be watching out for the minors that are online.

00:40:00.000 That makes sense.

00:40:01.000 But is that the case with YouPorn or places like that?

00:40:05.000 You just go there.

00:40:06.000 I don't know.

00:40:07.000 Come on.

00:40:08.000 You don't know.

00:40:09.000 I don't know if a kid knows what porn is.

00:40:13.000 I don't know the line.

00:40:15.000 What is this mystic U porn you speak of?

00:40:16.000 What is this porn?

00:40:17.000 What are you talking about?

00:40:18.000 How do you get there?

00:40:20.000 Use a browser.

00:40:22.000 Do you know what a browser is?

00:40:25.000 Well, when the virtual porn fucking world opens up, that's when things are going to get very squirrely.

00:40:30.000 Duncan said it's too real.

00:40:32.000 Duncan had a HTC vibe, and he was watching porn with the helmet on, which I only want to be a fly on the wall.

00:40:40.000 Watch him standing there.

00:40:41.000 That's what I was going to say.

00:40:42.000 Standing there, beating off, looking at a 17-foot-tall vagina in front of him.

00:40:46.000 Oh, my God.

00:40:48.000 A haptic suit would be the next step, and those are here, so I don't know what that's like if they've synced it up.

00:40:53.000 Yeah.

00:40:54.000 I mean, I've done that place we talked about, The Void.

00:40:58.000 You ever do a virtual reality place?

00:41:00.000 I haven't.

00:41:00.000 It's pretty dope.

00:41:01.000 They have a new one that I just saw in Vegas.

00:41:05.000 Some new one that looked like you go into a warehouse and you're shooting at things.

00:41:10.000 But you put on this helmet and you enter into this room.

00:41:16.000 And there was two different ones that I went on.

00:41:18.000 One was a Star Wars one and one was a Wreck-It Ralph one.

00:41:21.000 Nice.

00:41:22.000 And it's crazy.

00:41:23.000 You look around, the entire thing is animated.

00:41:27.000 Above you, below you, you see the ground.

00:41:29.000 You see stormtroopers.

00:41:30.000 They shoot at you.

00:41:31.000 You feel the laser beams hit your chest because you're wearing a vest that vibrates when you get hit.

00:41:36.000 You walk into a room where there's fire and you feel the heat.

00:41:39.000 It's getting really interesting.

00:41:41.000 When you're in that, say this room was empty, would you walk around as if it was the entirety of the room?

00:41:48.000 Yeah, you can walk over.

00:41:49.000 They have it set up so that they have rooms that you go into where you open doors or doors open for you.

00:41:55.000 And you see the door open like in virtual reality, but a real door does open while that fake door that you're seeing opens.

00:42:03.000 And then you go into it and then they have these plastic guns that you pick up.

00:42:08.000 So you actually pick up the gun.

00:42:09.000 But when you're holding it, it looks like a stormtrooper weapon, you know, like a Star Wars weapon.

00:42:14.000 That's cool, man.

00:42:15.000 It's getting weird.

00:42:16.000 It's going to be weird.

00:42:17.000 But I think what's interesting is that kind of stuff is so much less satisfying, to bring it back to what you do, than something that you have to really work for, and it's really difficult, and it's a very visceral,

00:42:34.000 real feeling.

00:42:35.000 The feeling of accomplishment you get when you do something virtual will never be able to compare Yeah, you feel it.

00:42:48.000 You live it.

00:42:49.000 When I was doing World's Strongest Man in Botswana, Africa, I tore my bicep and I just was getting beat up over and over again.

00:42:58.000 I was just so wrecked my body wasn't accepting.

00:43:00.000 I went from football to strongman.

00:43:03.000 And in football, we've never done deadlifts.

00:43:05.000 It was all hand cleans and power cleans.

00:43:07.000 Which, by the way, just a quick little tip.

00:43:09.000 Deadlifts, if you're deadlifting to be a better deadlifter, fine.

00:43:13.000 If you're not doing that for deadlifts' sake, then don't fucking do it.

00:43:16.000 The risk-to-reward ratio is a joke.

00:43:18.000 For deadlifts?

00:43:18.000 For deadlifts.

00:43:19.000 Really?

00:43:19.000 And a lot of people aren't going to like that I'm saying that.

00:43:21.000 But if you go into any NFL gym, in any Division I college football gym, in any athletics where people are actually getting paid and it matters what they're doing, they're not deadlifting.

00:43:32.000 They're hand cleaning and power cleaning.

00:43:32.000 Really?

00:43:33.000 Why is that?

00:43:34.000 Because of the risk-to-reward ratio.

00:43:37.000 It's so hard to be a great deadlifter and to not risk your low back and to be using your upper back properly.

00:43:45.000 There's so many little chances for you to get hurt.

00:43:50.000 Hamstrings, deadlifts, that was me...

00:43:53.000 My first world's strongest man.

00:43:54.000 I was the only rookie in the finals.

00:43:56.000 Bro.

00:43:57.000 China.

00:43:58.000 How much weight is that?

00:43:59.000 That was 880 pounds.

00:44:01.000 400 kilos.

00:44:02.000 Me and my pink chucks.

00:44:05.000 I weigh less than that now.

00:44:07.000 I'm less of a bowling ball though.

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 Really?

00:44:09.000 Wow.

00:44:11.000 Well, they made those weights ridiculous looking, too.

00:44:14.000 Right.

00:44:14.000 Well, that right there is something we overhead press, too.

00:44:18.000 So they'll take some of the weights out of it, and it's so flimsy when you clean it.

00:44:22.000 It's basically like holding that earthquake bar that you have out there.

00:44:25.000 It's just like that, and it's fucking brutal.

00:44:25.000 Oh, really?

00:44:28.000 So they take weight out of that round thing?

00:44:30.000 What is in that round thing?

00:44:30.000 Yeah.

00:44:32.000 Well, there's several different attachments to it, so maybe some of them are way different.

00:44:35.000 I've never been a part of that, but either that or it unscrews at the end and they take weights out of it.

00:44:41.000 I'm not positive.

00:44:42.000 So you leave the NFL or you leave playing football.

00:44:45.000 Were you in the NFL? No.

00:44:47.000 I had a brief shot at it.

00:44:48.000 Never actually got to do it.

00:44:50.000 No.

00:44:50.000 I was...

00:44:51.000 So what kind of transition, like what is the transition to getting into Strongman?

00:44:55.000 Went from that to, I was a security guard.

00:44:59.000 In Santa Cruz, there's this place called The Catalyst, which is where I worked for like six years.

00:45:03.000 It's a really cool bar slash concert venue.

00:45:05.000 So I was like spoiled.

00:45:07.000 I got to hang out with Rob Zombie and Willie Nelson and shit.

00:45:10.000 Yeah, it was cool, man.

00:45:11.000 I was spoiled.

00:45:12.000 Rob Zombie, I geeked out really hard for.

00:45:13.000 That's dope.

00:45:14.000 It was fun.

00:45:15.000 Yeah, we're working on getting him here.

00:45:16.000 Dude, he'd be awesome.

00:45:18.000 Yeah, I'm sure he would be.

00:45:19.000 He was really cool.

00:45:21.000 I'm sure he is.

00:45:22.000 He's really into horror movies, man.

00:45:23.000 Dude, and he does the best ones.

00:45:25.000 Yeah.

00:45:25.000 I love his horror movies, man.

00:45:27.000 They're wild.

00:45:27.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:45:28.000 Huge fan.

00:45:29.000 He's like the Quentin Tarantino of horror.

00:45:31.000 It's awesome.

00:45:31.000 Yeah.

00:45:32.000 But it's such a weird transition, you know?

00:45:34.000 You gotta go from being a rock star to a horror film director.

00:45:34.000 Yeah.

00:45:37.000 He's just crazy in the head.

00:45:39.000 And his brother is actually the lead singer of Power Man 5000. Really?

00:45:42.000 Yeah.

00:45:43.000 Oh, wow.

00:45:44.000 In the family.

00:45:45.000 So I went to security and I was working there and a buddy of mine who I had played junior college ball with was just obsessed with strongmen.

00:45:52.000 And I'd never heard of it.

00:45:53.000 I never watched it.

00:45:54.000 Like when I was growing up, we were poor.

00:45:56.000 Like there was 10 of us in a three bedroom house.

00:45:58.000 And from high school on, we didn't have electricity.

00:46:01.000 So we didn't watch TV. We would play outside.

00:46:04.000 We had a trampoline.

00:46:05.000 You didn't have electricity in high school?

00:46:07.000 On the weekends, my dad worked for Caterpillar, Cashman Equipment.

00:46:10.000 So on the weekends, he'd bring home a little generator, and he'd plug that in, and we'd have three things we could use.

00:46:15.000 But that was it.

00:46:16.000 The hot water heater would work for the weekend, and then maybe the TV on Saturday night or something, like TGIF or something.

00:46:23.000 I mean, as a kid, it's not that big of a deal.

00:46:23.000 Fuck.

00:46:27.000 You just go play with your brothers outside.

00:46:29.000 But I never knew what Strongman was because of that.

00:46:29.000 Right.

00:46:32.000 I mean, I had no idea.

00:46:34.000 So he was obsessed with it, and he kept trying to get me to do it.

00:46:38.000 And then went home and Googled it, checked it out.

00:46:41.000 Actually, I don't know if it was Googled.

00:46:42.000 I might have YouTubed it.

00:46:43.000 Back then, who knows what we had.

00:46:46.000 But I was excited and went and tried it out.

00:46:51.000 First day, the amateur world record at Log Press was like 320 pounds at the time.

00:46:58.000 And I had no idea.

00:46:59.000 But the first day, I hit 330 pounds and just put it down and I looked over at my buddy and I was like, you know, how'd that look?

00:47:06.000 And he's like, get the fuck out of here.

00:47:08.000 Like, he's been trying his whole life to do this.

00:47:11.000 I just came in and took it.

00:47:13.000 And then eight months later, I mean, six months later, I was competing in England and I had my pro card.

00:47:19.000 Two months after that, I was in China at that photo right there, World's Strongest Man.

00:47:23.000 I was the only rookie in the finals.

00:47:24.000 So is it the log thing?

00:47:26.000 Is it the awkwardness of holding onto a log and getting it under your hands?

00:47:30.000 Yeah.

00:47:31.000 And actually, it's a lot healthier for your shoulders.

00:47:33.000 Instead of being, how would you call that with your hands right there?

00:47:37.000 Pronated or supponated.

00:47:39.000 I forget which one is which.

00:47:40.000 We're the worst.

00:47:41.000 I like it when trainers use that, though.

00:47:43.000 You know what you're talking about.

00:47:44.000 This guy's got his shit together.

00:47:45.000 This fat dude eating french fries.

00:47:48.000 So it's better for you.

00:47:52.000 It's much better for your wrists and your shoulders.

00:47:54.000 Makes sense.

00:47:55.000 And also, like, that's what my...

00:47:57.000 Jamie's showing us.

00:47:57.000 There it goes.

00:47:58.000 Neutral grip, supinated grip.

00:48:00.000 So, yeah.

00:48:01.000 Neutral grip is much better for your wrists and shoulders.

00:48:05.000 Okay, so handles like this.

00:48:07.000 They say that with bench press as well.

00:48:08.000 Like those benches.

00:48:08.000 Yeah.

00:48:10.000 They have new bars that have handles.

00:48:11.000 The football bars from Rogue.

00:48:12.000 Yeah, those are dope.

00:48:13.000 Awesome.

00:48:14.000 Rogue makes good equipment.

00:48:15.000 Yeah, I use all their shit.

00:48:16.000 My house and here.

00:48:17.000 I know.

00:48:18.000 And they don't pay me.

00:48:19.000 It's not free.

00:48:20.000 I buy all of it.

00:48:21.000 I don't work with them either, but they're the best.

00:48:21.000 Same here.

00:48:23.000 Yeah, it's the best shit.

00:48:25.000 So we went to Worlds and then, oh yeah, I totally lost the whole getting hurt thing.

00:48:30.000 First of all, you beat the fucking world record log press the first time out.

00:48:34.000 Amateur world record.

00:48:35.000 Amateur world record.

00:48:36.000 The fuck ever.

00:48:36.000 Yeah.

00:48:38.000 Where's the temp?

00:48:39.000 That's hilarious.

00:48:40.000 So it was good.

00:48:41.000 What's the pro record?

00:48:42.000 Right now, the American record's been mine for four years, and that was 211 kilos, and that's fucking 468. Something like that.

00:48:54.000 Is this you here?

00:48:55.000 This is me.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, this is in Australia, in front of Arnold.

00:48:59.000 Jesus Christ.

00:49:00.000 Arno was there?

00:49:01.000 Yeah, that's his shirt.

00:49:03.000 That's his competition.

00:49:04.000 This is my competition.

00:49:06.000 So this is a log press right here?

00:49:08.000 That's a skinny log too.

00:49:08.000 Yep.

00:49:09.000 This was a hard log to use.

00:49:11.000 But a buddy of mine had that record and he passed away.

00:49:15.000 And I wanted to be the one to take it from him after he died.

00:49:18.000 And that was this moment.

00:49:20.000 Jesus Christ, that looks heavy.

00:49:21.000 Can you show me show off a little bit too?

00:49:24.000 I like to do this after I get it up.

00:49:28.000 Wow, so that's the world record.

00:49:30.000 American record.

00:49:31.000 Who's the world record?

00:49:32.000 The world record...

00:49:33.000 I like to hold it up there and talk shit.

00:49:37.000 Every time you see a record broken, the guy gets it to here, and then he just throws it down.

00:49:40.000 Right.

00:49:41.000 That doesn't count.

00:49:42.000 So the world record is...

00:49:42.000 That doesn't count.

00:49:46.000 219 kilos, I believe.

00:49:48.000 Something like that.

00:49:48.000 Something right around there.

00:49:50.000 It might have been 220. How close are you to that?

00:49:53.000 I can break it right now.

00:49:54.000 Yeah.

00:49:54.000 Yeah?

00:49:55.000 In January.

00:49:56.000 Break that shit, Robert.

00:49:57.000 I'm going to London.

00:49:58.000 I'm going to give London a little introduction to Texas.

00:50:02.000 What do you call it?

00:50:03.000 Texas pride.

00:50:04.000 Texas powerlifting.

00:50:05.000 For sure.

00:50:05.000 Wow.

00:50:06.000 I'm excited.

00:50:07.000 So you go and you break the American amateur record right away, first attempt out, and is that when you felt like, fuck, I could do this shit?

00:50:16.000 I went home and I told my fiancé at the time, We were living in a studio and we were just broke.

00:50:16.000 Yeah.

00:50:23.000 And I was volunteer coaching for high school, which is my passion, high school football.

00:50:28.000 And then I was working at that club at night.

00:50:31.000 So I didn't have a lot of time, but I was like, I can make this happen.

00:50:35.000 With my personality and this as a platform, I can do this.

00:50:39.000 And everybody kept telling me, there's no money in Strongman.

00:50:42.000 There isn't any.

00:50:43.000 And there really wasn't.

00:50:44.000 There wasn't like...

00:50:45.000 There was no money in Strongman until I made money in Strongman.

00:50:48.000 Really?

00:50:49.000 There were several other people, but what we did was we cultivated a whole new era of Strongman.

00:50:57.000 Puginowski was a guy who got a lot of attention because he looked just shredded, jacked.

00:51:02.000 But, I mean, he's got like a Cribs episode that they did in Poland, and he's got this tiny little house with like little knick-knacks and stuff he's so proud of.

00:51:11.000 It's really weird.

00:51:11.000 It's crazy.

00:51:12.000 But like even then, he's five-time World's Strongest Man winner.

00:51:16.000 There's really no money in that.

00:51:18.000 I would have thought he would have been balling out of control.

00:51:20.000 You would think so.

00:51:20.000 Because I know who he is.

00:51:21.000 I feel like if I know who you are and you do something on TV, you must be rich.

00:51:24.000 Yeah.

00:51:26.000 That's the rapper's display.

00:51:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:29.000 I'm flying in first class and then you catch a little Bow Wow in the back.

00:51:32.000 Well, I remember one of the weird things that I read about Pujanowski is how much candy he eats.

00:51:36.000 Huh.

00:51:36.000 Yeah, and that he really likes candy in between workouts because he's blowing out so much sugar that he would eat chocolate bars.

00:51:44.000 Yeah.

00:51:44.000 That makes sense.

00:51:45.000 We do a lot of, like, I do peanut butter and honey, stuff like that.

00:51:48.000 During competition, peanut butter and honey are Snickers bars.

00:51:50.000 Really?

00:51:51.000 Yeah.

00:51:51.000 And when you eat peanut butter and honey, do you eat it with a spoon?

00:51:53.000 I usually make the sandwiches.

00:51:55.000 I see guys just pouring honey in their mouth, like the Russian guys.

00:51:59.000 Wow.

00:51:59.000 There's a Russian guy who was rushing Secret Service for a while.

00:52:04.000 You look in his eyes and you're like, this motherfucker has done some bad things.

00:52:08.000 But he's the nicest dude in the world.

00:52:11.000 He's like the sweetest guy.

00:52:12.000 He always comes over and talks to me and my family.

00:52:15.000 He doesn't speak good English, but he's really nice about trying to get his point across and everything.

00:52:20.000 But yeah, that guy's done probably scary shit.

00:52:23.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:52:25.000 There's a lot of that because we compete with people from all around the world.

00:52:28.000 And we tend to forget that everywhere else there's a lot of...

00:52:33.000 It's normal almost to be like that in some places.

00:52:36.000 Right.

00:52:36.000 To survive.

00:52:37.000 And if you're a giant dude, it's probably the best way to make a living.

00:52:40.000 Exactly.

00:52:41.000 Yeah.

00:52:42.000 And so they just squirt honey in their mouth?

00:52:44.000 Yeah.

00:52:44.000 They'll just pour a whole little canister of honey and just take that.

00:52:49.000 You see guys do that right before they go lift and stuff.

00:52:52.000 The way I grew up and the way I did things, I was always taught and it kind of worked with being broke, but a warrior goes to war hungry.

00:53:02.000 Like in football, I would never eat before a game, ever.

00:53:05.000 And then got into Strongman, and I did that for a long time, and I got up to 440 pounds, and I would do an entire show, like five, six hours without eating.

00:53:17.000 But then during it, I would snack a little bit, but I would never eat a meal.

00:53:20.000 Right.

00:53:21.000 Because the resources, it eats up your resources, right?

00:53:24.000 Right.

00:53:24.000 And see, for me, it felt like anything in my stomach just made me feel like slow.

00:53:31.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

00:53:33.000 That's the same with comedy, too.

00:53:35.000 I learned that from Cat Williams watching an interview with him.

00:53:38.000 Just don't eat before you go on stage.

00:53:39.000 I'm like, that makes sense.

00:53:40.000 You're better off being hungry.

00:53:42.000 Hunters do that, too.

00:53:43.000 The best hunters, they hunt hungry.

00:53:45.000 Yeah.

00:53:46.000 But what happened to me was I lost 80 pounds.

00:53:49.000 I was 440. I lost 80 pounds.

00:53:51.000 And when I got hurt in Botswana, I lost all that weight.

00:53:55.000 Just because of the bicep tear?

00:53:56.000 No, I chose to do that.

00:53:58.000 When I graduated high school, I was 370 pounds, so I've always been a big dude.

00:54:03.000 But I got up to 440 and just walking around was laborious, you know?

00:54:07.000 I felt like fucking horrible.

00:54:10.000 How big were you when you did that log press?

00:54:12.000 That log press, that was like...

00:54:15.000 Like 425-ish, 430, right around that.

00:54:18.000 So I gained a little bit more after that.

00:54:20.000 Everyone tells you in the sport, the bigger you are, the stronger you are.

00:54:23.000 And that kind of holds true to static lifting, like kind of.

00:54:28.000 It's not necessary all the time, but it kind of holds true.

00:54:31.000 But we got to move, man.

00:54:32.000 Like we're talking about pulling a truck and doing load events and all that stuff.

00:54:36.000 When you're 440 and your body's not agreeing with that 440, it just holds you back.

00:54:42.000 Yeah.

00:54:42.000 You want to imagine the load on your joints too.

00:54:44.000 Particularly lower back.

00:54:44.000 Yeah.

00:54:46.000 Yeah.

00:54:46.000 My low back was bad.

00:54:48.000 So that's what happened.

00:54:48.000 Yeah.

00:54:49.000 I got hurt and I felt like I was done because my low back, I'd have to take me like 45 minutes to get out of bed in the morning.

00:54:56.000 I was messed up, man.

00:54:56.000 Really?

00:54:56.000 Oh yeah.

00:54:58.000 Really bad.

00:54:59.000 Did you get an MRI? I never got an MRI and didn't.

00:55:02.000 I'm scared too.

00:55:03.000 Suck it up.

00:55:04.000 Exactly.

00:55:05.000 Just fucking roll.

00:55:06.000 How'd you fix it?

00:55:07.000 When I lost weight, it got better, and it's core strength for me now.

00:55:11.000 Core strength and stretching.

00:55:12.000 And also, I smoke weed.

00:55:14.000 A lot of athletes are against it, and a lot of people think that there's some negative connotation with being someone who smokes weed.

00:55:22.000 I mean, I'm watching guys take Vicodin like it's Skittles.

00:55:26.000 I've seen guys throw away their lives, their families, their career over a bunch of pills because they didn't want to smoke.

00:55:32.000 And it's crazy, you know?

00:55:34.000 And we actually officially got World's Strongest Man to take marijuana off of the drug testing.

00:55:40.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:55:41.000 There's drug testing in World's Strongest Man?

00:55:43.000 Are they making sure you're on steroids?

00:55:43.000 Yeah, every year.

00:55:46.000 Like, we have to test you to make sure you're strong.

00:55:49.000 What the fuck kind of bitch-ass kid are you taking?

00:55:53.000 Not enough drugs in this guy's system.

00:55:55.000 Do you know who Robert Frank is?

00:55:57.000 It sounds familiar.

00:55:58.000 He's a hilarious Instagram guy.

00:56:02.000 I can't recall, but it sounds really familiar, yeah.

00:56:04.000 He's really funny, man.

00:56:06.000 He's like, he talks like this!

00:56:08.000 He's really fast!

00:56:10.000 He's got this fucking hilarious rant about someone Getting the girl pregnant and taking responsibility.

00:56:17.000 And he goes, I have to ask you.

00:56:20.000 He goes, if you're trying to get jacked and tanned, what kind of gear are you on?

00:56:24.000 I have to question your gear if you're getting your girl pregnant.

00:56:27.000 What kind of swearers do you have?

00:56:31.000 That guy's got so much energy.

00:56:33.000 I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:56:34.000 He's another one.

00:56:35.000 He gets censored off of Instagram all the time.

00:56:37.000 They pull his posts, and he's got a million followers, and they won't give him a fucking blue checkmark.

00:56:42.000 That's ridiculous.

00:56:43.000 People don't understand.

00:56:44.000 That's our livelihood.

00:56:45.000 A lot of people, that's social media is how we feed our fucking family.

00:56:49.000 Well, also, he's fucking funny.

00:56:51.000 Yeah.

00:56:51.000 But he's funny with...

00:56:53.000 Toxic masculinity.

00:56:55.000 Right, right.

00:56:55.000 He's toxic.

00:56:57.000 Because his opinion's different when I'm allowed to have it.

00:56:59.000 He's jacked and tan!

00:57:00.000 That's it right there.

00:57:01.000 Yeah.

00:57:02.000 He's not tan, he's red.

00:57:03.000 Play this, play this.

00:57:04.000 That motherfucker's red.

00:57:05.000 He's funny, man.

00:57:06.000 He's funny.

00:57:07.000 The most glorious day of the week.

00:57:09.000 Chest day.

00:57:10.000 Every chick on the cardio deck will want a piece of my pole.

00:57:13.000 I want to tell you a story about What a bro who said I ruined his life.

00:57:15.000 He said my videos give him the motivation to get juicy as fuck and he shows up to the bar every weekend with his guns hugging the sleeves on his medium deep V-neck tees and he's nailing hoes from different area codes like a fucking boss.

00:57:24.000 Problem is, one of them called him up saying she's pregnant.

00:57:27.000 Now he's blaming me for introducing him to the game.

00:57:29.000 First of all, who the fuck told you to go wrong-dogging it?

00:57:31.000 And if that's how you roll, there's plenty of other techniques for when you get the freaks in the sheets like the sticky belly or sticky lower back.

00:57:35.000 Perfect method.

00:57:36.000 For when you get the hose on the sack, or as I've been told, since I was four years old, that you're days of old, and nights were bold, and condoms weren't invented, they tied a sock around their c**, and babies weren't prevented, and to this day, I still carry an extra sock in my back pocket, because you never know which is gonna want the rocket, but when she does, I'm gonna blast off on that a**, because I'm Robert And I'm the women's pet and the men's biggest threat.

00:57:54.000 And what my knight has in store is to get some big booty whore on all fucking fours with her cheek pressed up against my bedroom floor.

00:57:59.000 Oh my god.

00:58:00.000 You think he writes that all himself?

00:58:02.000 I think so.

00:58:03.000 Oh my god.

00:58:04.000 As long as the goal, size is the prize.

00:58:06.000 Let's get the clock, motherfucker.

00:58:07.000 Let's go!

00:58:12.000 It's funny shit, man.

00:58:14.000 It's fucking funny shit.

00:58:16.000 And he can't get approved.

00:58:19.000 And they've gone through publicists.

00:58:21.000 They've tried to get him...

00:58:23.000 What is it?

00:58:23.000 Recognized?

00:58:24.000 What is it called?

00:58:25.000 Verified.

00:58:25.000 Try to get him verified.

00:58:26.000 Try to get that blue checkmark next to his name.

00:58:29.000 It's silly, man.

00:58:30.000 I don't know how that even works.

00:58:32.000 Somebody did mine for me.

00:58:33.000 Too much muscle.

00:58:34.000 Yeah.

00:58:35.000 I mean...

00:58:35.000 Well, you can do it because you're not making fun of things.

00:58:37.000 He's making fun of things and talking about getting his cocks out.

00:58:39.000 I'm fucking pretty.

00:58:40.000 That's what it is.

00:58:40.000 And strong.

00:58:41.000 God damn it.

00:58:41.000 Strong and pretty.

00:58:42.000 That's perfect.

00:58:43.000 No, it's silly that they do that, though.

00:58:46.000 You know, it almost...

00:58:46.000 I mean, if you look historically back, every time they've done that, those people have gotten more power.

00:58:51.000 Yes.

00:58:52.000 Like, all you're doing...

00:58:53.000 is feeding that guy so in 10 years when you look like the asshole that censored him he's gonna be 10 times that well especially now that we're talking about him yeah yeah which is good yeah it's good that this exists yeah it's fucking good i think so a lot of people appreciate it well i think this is a weird time where you can't you're having people dictate what you can and can't see or what isn't is val is it and isn't valid and it's just that seems like nonsense to me like we're moving backwards Especially with something like that.

00:59:19.000 He's being funny.

00:59:21.000 Like, he's funny.

00:59:22.000 We're allowed to make jokes.

00:59:22.000 He makes me laugh.

00:59:23.000 Yeah, we are.

00:59:24.000 What the fuck, man?

00:59:26.000 Even bad jokes, man.

00:59:27.000 Even bad jokes by juice heads.

00:59:28.000 Yes.

00:59:29.000 Like, it's funny.

00:59:30.000 He talks about being a juice head.

00:59:32.000 It's hilarious.

00:59:33.000 My first introduction to comedy, I loved, growing up, I was a huge fan of Richard Pryor and all that stuff.

00:59:39.000 I'm a huge fan of Carlin.

00:59:41.000 I'm a big fan.

00:59:42.000 I even liked, what was his name, Jeff Foxworthy.

00:59:46.000 I love Foxworthy.

00:59:47.000 It was great.

00:59:48.000 And my first time I ever got to see a show, I came in, I moved into LA, and a buddy of mine brought me to see you and Uncle Joey.

00:59:56.000 And I was like, holy fuck.

00:59:59.000 First, Joe comes out there, and you can't even breathe.

01:00:02.000 When Joe's gone, you don't get a second.

01:00:04.000 It's like, goddamn!

01:00:05.000 He's an animal.

01:00:06.000 He's got some shit right now.

01:00:08.000 Like, if you get a chance while you're in town, he's got some new shit.

01:00:11.000 We were falling on the ground crying the other night.

01:00:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:14.000 I'll come check him out.

01:00:15.000 He's the best ever.

01:00:16.000 He crushes.

01:00:17.000 He crushes.

01:00:18.000 No one's, like, funnier in bursts.

01:00:20.000 You might get, you know, guys who are really good joke writers, guys who are really funny, guys who are, like, they're valid in terms of our culture, but no one's funnier than Joey Diaz.

01:00:31.000 No one.

01:00:31.000 Right.

01:00:32.000 The whole room.

01:00:32.000 No.

01:00:33.000 It was like we were uncomfortable.

01:00:35.000 We couldn't stop laughing.

01:00:37.000 You're so damn good.

01:00:39.000 Then when you went up, it's a whole different style, but it's super along the way that I think about how you're introspective and comparative with different things and stuff and the way you make people look at something at a different angle and then you poke fun of the way that you originally thought about You know?

01:00:56.000 That's at least how that set was.

01:00:58.000 But it was...

01:00:58.000 I mean, being in a live audience is so different than watching a special on TV. Oh, yeah.

01:01:04.000 It's way better.

01:01:05.000 Well, I met you in the Belly Room, which is one of the best places to do stand-up.

01:01:09.000 Over the last Tiny Room?

01:01:09.000 Right.

01:01:10.000 I did a set on Belly Room.

01:01:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:12.000 Did you really?

01:01:12.000 I've been on stage once.

01:01:13.000 And I did...

01:01:14.000 Yeah, the Belly Room.

01:01:15.000 Yeah.

01:01:16.000 I went up there and did...

01:01:17.000 It was Storytime.

01:01:19.000 And Tate Fletcher and...

01:01:23.000 Oh, man, I can't remember who else.

01:01:24.000 A bunch of people just kept telling me, like, just go up there and tell a story.

01:01:27.000 Just go tell a story.

01:01:28.000 And I was like, all right, there's no cameras in here, right?

01:01:31.000 I can tell a real story?

01:01:33.000 What kind of story are we talking about?

01:01:35.000 But they got me up there, and I did six minutes.

01:01:38.000 They gave me four, and I ran home for six.

01:01:41.000 I didn't know what the lights meant.

01:01:42.000 I was just talking, you know?

01:01:43.000 I didn't know.

01:01:44.000 And I told a story about being in China, and we thought we were going to go to jail in China and stuff.

01:01:48.000 And it was fucking hilarious.

01:01:50.000 What happened in China?

01:01:51.000 That year you saw me in the picture.

01:01:53.000 We got done with World's Strongest Man.

01:01:55.000 And we do like a celebration.

01:01:57.000 We all go to dinner and all that stuff.

01:01:59.000 And I was fucking excited because I was the only rookie in the finals.

01:02:04.000 I was super excited.

01:02:05.000 So I'm hammered drunk.

01:02:07.000 And you're in China and then little things start to click.

01:02:10.000 You see people all wearing the communist uniform that they have.

01:02:14.000 They were celebrating...

01:02:15.000 I don't know if it's called Communism Day or whatever.

01:02:18.000 But they celebrate that.

01:02:19.000 And like...

01:02:20.000 Almost the entire city.

01:02:22.000 We were in Sonia, which is a little island, which is like their kind of vacation island.

01:02:28.000 Almost everybody was dressed in those uniforms.

01:02:30.000 And I'm drunk, and I'm looking around, and I'm starting to feel uncomfortable.

01:02:34.000 And we finally get up to go, and we all get on this bus.

01:02:37.000 And the guy who runs World's Strongest Man is a very old man.

01:02:41.000 He's got to be in his 90s, right?

01:02:43.000 But he needs help moving around, all that kind of stuff.

01:02:48.000 We get on the bus and we're setting up and the camera crew left all their stuff on the front seat, which is the older guy's seat.

01:02:56.000 We make sure that he has that seat.

01:02:59.000 We're trying to finagle the...

01:03:02.000 We're not finagle.

01:03:03.000 We're trying to be assertive but nice to the camera crew that they have to move back.

01:03:09.000 And they didn't speak English at the moment, you know, and they were acting like they just didn't understand.

01:03:14.000 They were being really rude about it.

01:03:16.000 And Nick Best, who's actually on the TV show with me, He came over and he picked up the camera and he was like you're moving and started walking back with the camera case and then the guy got up and started yelling at us in English and he's totally knew exactly what we were saying the whole time and he's yelling at us and freaking out and Nick puts the camera down like towards the middle of the bus And then sits back down.

01:03:39.000 The guy marches off the bus, comes back on the bus with three cops, three police officers in Chinese uniforms.

01:03:45.000 And I'm fucking scared shitless.

01:03:48.000 I've heard horror stories about Chinese prison.

01:03:51.000 It does not sound like the place to be.

01:03:53.000 And the guy...

01:03:54.000 The guy and the cops are getting really worked up about the fact that he touched his equipment and that Nick called him an arrogant American, all this stuff, like freaking out.

01:04:04.000 And the police officer, literally, nobody ever believes this, but it was like in 300, almost fucking exactly.

01:04:10.000 He goes...

01:04:11.000 This is China!

01:04:13.000 And he's screaming at a bus full of the world's strongest men.

01:04:17.000 He's fucking scared all of us into thinking we were going to go to jail.

01:04:21.000 This is China!

01:04:22.000 And he's screaming at them.

01:04:23.000 And Nick Best kind of sits back in his seat and puts his head down.

01:04:26.000 And he realizes, like, we better shut the fuck up.

01:04:29.000 So we all kind of tucked our tails in and sat there.

01:04:32.000 And then the older guy got on the bus, took his seat.

01:04:35.000 And then the camera guy kind of pretended like it didn't happen and went and sat back down.

01:04:39.000 The police officers left.

01:04:40.000 But in the entirety of that situation, like, I fucking...

01:04:44.000 I could have swore I was going to prison, like, scared to death.

01:04:48.000 Yeah, you do not want to get locked up in an Asian prison.

01:04:51.000 No.

01:04:52.000 Especially China, right?

01:04:53.000 No, no, no, no.

01:04:54.000 And especially that spot, because...

01:04:54.000 Not there.

01:04:56.000 Like, it was their vacation island, but it's fucking dirty.

01:05:00.000 Like, the stories you hear about kids shitting in the streets and stuff, it's not everywhere in China.

01:05:05.000 But on that island, it was everywhere.

01:05:07.000 Like, the kids just stop, pull open their little shorts and take a shit.

01:05:11.000 Ari told me he saw that in the mall.

01:05:13.000 Inside?

01:05:14.000 People just in the mall, walking, they just stop, pull their pants down, shit on the ground.

01:05:18.000 Yeah.

01:05:18.000 And I went, what?

01:05:19.000 On the floor.

01:05:20.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 Yep.

01:05:21.000 Yeah.

01:05:22.000 That's what they do, man.

01:05:23.000 It's crazy.

01:05:24.000 It's so crazy.

01:05:24.000 So who comes and cleans up the shit?

01:05:26.000 I don't think anybody when it's outside.

01:05:26.000 I don't know.

01:05:29.000 It's just everywhere.

01:05:30.000 Really?

01:05:31.000 Yeah.

01:05:31.000 You just see human shit everywhere.

01:05:33.000 All over the place and it smells like it.

01:05:34.000 And we almost, I think there was 30 of us, like 26 of us, all got stomach flu.

01:05:40.000 Or stomach intestinal parasites.

01:05:42.000 Oh, I bet everything has got shit on it.

01:05:44.000 Yeah.

01:05:44.000 If people are just shitting on the street, there's probably shit everywhere you touch.

01:05:48.000 Yep.

01:05:48.000 They were burning tires for their streetlights.

01:05:50.000 Yeah.

01:05:50.000 It was nasty, man.

01:05:51.000 What?

01:05:52.000 Yep.

01:05:53.000 The island, it's gorgeous, too.

01:05:55.000 I'm telling you, like, the photos, the pictures, Sonya Island is gorgeous.

01:05:59.000 They were burning tires for streetlights.

01:06:02.000 And these motherfuckers want us to switch to electric cars?

01:06:05.000 Yeah.

01:06:06.000 They're over there burning tires in China?

01:06:09.000 Well, at least in 2013 they were.

01:06:11.000 Fuck, man.

01:06:12.000 That is crazy.

01:06:13.000 Crazy.

01:06:14.000 Where else have you had to travel for Strongman?

01:06:17.000 I've done Africa.

01:06:19.000 Dubai is one of my favorites.

01:06:21.000 It's creepy sometimes, just realizing...

01:06:25.000 I don't like not feeling like I'm in control of what happens to me, my destiny.

01:06:30.000 When I'm in Texas, I feel great.

01:06:33.000 90% of the people around you are armed.

01:06:35.000 If some shit happens, they got it.

01:06:37.000 My girl actually, she rides horses and she manages a gun shop.

01:06:41.000 So like...

01:06:41.000 I'm straight.

01:06:42.000 I don't have shit to worry about.

01:06:44.000 But when you're in the Middle East or when you're in China or anything like that, you just have this feeling inside.

01:06:51.000 You're like, it could fucking go wrong quick.

01:06:54.000 But when we go to Dubai, we actually do World's Ultimate Strongman in Dubai.

01:06:58.000 And we're going to do another competition there October 25th.

01:07:03.000 It's the highest paid strongman show that exists.

01:07:06.000 It's a really big show.

01:07:07.000 It's a lot of fun.

01:07:08.000 We go out there and they fucked up.

01:07:11.000 They gave me the keys to a Ferrari and I just fucking went crazy.

01:07:14.000 I went through downtown going like 120. There's also no cops too.

01:07:19.000 Dubai doesn't have any cops?

01:07:21.000 They might have a few in certain areas, but basically they use cameras everywhere.

01:07:28.000 So, if you speed or if anything happens or you steal or anything like that, it's all on camera.

01:07:34.000 Like, there's literally cameras everywhere.

01:07:37.000 And that's how their judicial system works.

01:07:40.000 They don't use police.

01:07:41.000 They just say, oh, well, let's look at the camera footage.

01:07:44.000 Exactly.

01:07:44.000 Lock that motherfucker out forever.

01:07:46.000 Yep.

01:07:47.000 And when we were there, like, it was craziness going on with the royal family and stuff.

01:07:51.000 Like, it was pretty tense.

01:07:52.000 What was going on?

01:07:54.000 I'm going back in October.

01:07:55.000 I don't know.

01:07:56.000 Maybe we should probably shut the fuck up.

01:07:57.000 You could Google it.

01:07:58.000 It's crazy when you look at that place, like what it was like in 1970 versus what it is now.

01:08:03.000 Right.

01:08:03.000 Like some of the before and after footages, it's insane.

01:08:07.000 There's so much wealth there.

01:08:08.000 Yeah.

01:08:09.000 I mean, they have built the biggest building in the world.

01:08:11.000 They're the tallest building in the world.

01:08:12.000 Burj Khalifa.

01:08:13.000 I shit my pants at the top of that building.

01:08:15.000 Not literally, but like I hate heights.

01:08:17.000 And I went up there and like I couldn't walk.

01:08:19.000 How many floors is it?

01:08:21.000 Like 130?

01:08:22.000 I don't know, man.

01:08:23.000 We get in the bottom of the elevator, and Eddie Hall, who's also in the show with me, it's me, Eddie Hall, Nick Best, and Brian Shaw.

01:08:33.000 First of all, how the fuck is that elevator going to carry all you assholes?

01:08:36.000 Exactly.

01:08:36.000 Right.

01:08:37.000 We get in, they close the door to go up, and Eddie farts.

01:08:40.000 Oh no!

01:08:41.000 And I was like, this motherfucker!

01:08:43.000 No!

01:08:44.000 130-something floors smelling this guy's ass, you know?

01:08:48.000 It was horrible.

01:08:49.000 And Eddie's the worst.

01:08:50.000 He's English, so he's eating porridge and shit like that.

01:08:54.000 Drinking tea and farting.

01:08:55.000 I will put Tate Fletcher's farts up against any man who's ever lived.

01:08:58.000 Oh my god.

01:08:58.000 Really?

01:08:59.000 The worst?

01:09:00.000 Back in the day when he was fighting, I think he just over-consumed protein.

01:09:04.000 But he was legendary.

01:09:05.000 Legendary.

01:09:06.000 And he would laugh.

01:09:07.000 He would laugh, and you'd be like, oh, we gotta run!

01:09:09.000 Because you knew the fog was coming.

01:09:11.000 He would laugh first, and then it would come.

01:09:14.000 Like, Jesus.

01:09:14.000 Oh, no.

01:09:15.000 That's the worst, when they enjoy the fact that you're dying.

01:09:18.000 God.

01:09:20.000 He doesn't do it anymore though.

01:09:21.000 He must have cleaned his diet up.

01:09:22.000 He's never got me either.

01:09:23.000 Never.

01:09:25.000 I loved going out with Tate because normally when I go out, especially in LA or something, I just draw way too many weird eyes.

01:09:33.000 I feel like I just need to hide in the corner.

01:09:35.000 But with Tate, it's like the Bash Brothers walked in.

01:09:38.000 Right, right, right.

01:09:39.000 Kate's not as big as me, but he totally normalizes me.

01:09:41.000 Right, right, right.

01:09:42.000 It's so awesome.

01:09:43.000 Going into the comedy store was my favorite, man.

01:09:45.000 I used to go in there.

01:09:46.000 Actually, I saw a lot of the transition from when you started coming back, and I saw the culture change, man.

01:09:53.000 You did a lot for that place.

01:09:55.000 You fucking changed the entire culture of that back room.

01:09:58.000 It was awesome, man.

01:09:58.000 That's crazy.

01:10:00.000 Well, that's my spot.

01:10:01.000 I wasn't there for seven years.

01:10:03.000 Yeah.

01:10:04.000 Yeah.

01:10:04.000 And I was there just before and then just after.

01:10:08.000 And I used to go in there a lot.

01:10:10.000 I used to go hang out a lot.

01:10:11.000 And I'm telling you, just the way the comedians interact with each other is totally different.

01:10:16.000 When I first went there, it was very like...

01:10:19.000 Like, oh, well, I have this, and I can do this.

01:10:22.000 And it was basically like Hollywood at the comedy store.

01:10:25.000 So if you're waiting to audition for a commercial, and these people are all telling each other how cool they are, that's what it felt like.

01:10:33.000 Then now, I mean, not now.

01:10:35.000 I haven't been there for maybe a year or two.

01:10:37.000 But then after that, it became more like what we do.

01:10:40.000 We're talking shit to each other, and it's a camaraderie thing.

01:10:43.000 It's not like I'm better than you.

01:10:45.000 It's like we can all talk shit.

01:10:46.000 We're all on the same level, you know?

01:10:48.000 That's very important to me.

01:10:49.000 I think that it probably comes from martial arts, but it's also just my own philosophy.

01:10:56.000 It's like, I want everybody to do good.

01:10:58.000 I don't want to be the only one doing good.

01:10:59.000 I don't understand that.

01:11:01.000 I've never understood that.

01:11:03.000 I want...

01:11:04.000 When I go on the road, I try to bring the best people alive.

01:11:10.000 I want everybody to have fun.

01:11:12.000 I want the audience to have a great show.

01:11:14.000 I want people to kill.

01:11:15.000 And I try to help comedians.

01:11:17.000 I really want to support them.

01:11:19.000 I try to get them all on my podcast.

01:11:21.000 I try to tell everybody they're great.

01:11:22.000 I try to tell everybody to go see them.

01:11:24.000 And you see what that cultivates, too.

01:11:27.000 Everybody got better.

01:11:28.000 Yeah.

01:11:29.000 I mean, Joey probably exactly the same.

01:11:31.000 He's always been a monster.

01:11:32.000 He's always been the same.

01:11:33.000 But part of when Joey became a monster is because he got all this love, you know, and he realized he could just be himself up there.

01:11:38.000 Yeah.

01:11:38.000 Like when he stopped taking coke and all that stuff.

01:11:40.000 Yeah, that helped.

01:11:41.000 But even when he was doing coke, he was fucking amazing.

01:11:43.000 Yeah.

01:11:43.000 I can't imagine him not being funny.

01:11:46.000 I can hear him tell the same story five different times and still crack up every fucking time.

01:11:51.000 He's an American original.

01:11:52.000 There's not a whole lot of people like that guy.

01:11:54.000 Savage.

01:11:55.000 But that place, yeah, it's just insecurity.

01:11:59.000 When people realize they're loved and that there's real camaraderie and a brotherhood and a sisterhood and that you really do care about each other.

01:12:07.000 Everybody, like that place is all hugs, man.

01:12:09.000 You go there, everybody's hugging.

01:12:10.000 Yeah, and it wasn't that way.

01:12:12.000 I know every time I give you a compliment, I see you kind of wince a little bit.

01:12:16.000 When people like yourself, I'm the same way.

01:12:20.000 Whenever I do something well and someone tells me, I'm like, nah, I should have done this this way.

01:12:24.000 I'm always that I should one-up-myself guy.

01:12:27.000 But you really changed the fucking culture there, man.

01:12:29.000 And you've made a lot of people better.

01:12:31.000 The same with a podcast.

01:12:32.000 Big ups, man.

01:12:33.000 It was awesome.

01:12:33.000 Oh, thanks, brother.

01:12:34.000 Yeah.

01:12:34.000 Thank you.

01:12:35.000 Well, I feel very lucky.

01:12:37.000 I'm a very fortunate person, so I like to spread it.

01:12:40.000 Fucking from where you started to where you are now, the hustle, man.

01:12:44.000 That's inspiring.

01:12:45.000 I always feel like I need to do more and I need to extend myself in different areas and stuff.

01:12:50.000 I look at...

01:12:51.000 Like, so many people out there now, we actually have access to, and you can see, like, Jocko.

01:12:58.000 Like, this dude's up at 4.30 in the morning, and I'm, like, complaining the fact that I only got six hours with this guy.

01:13:04.000 You know, like, you really learn your level of hustle in reality versus where you put yourself in your head.

01:13:10.000 You're like, oh, I'm killing it, I'm working so hard, there's nothing more I could be doing, and then this motherfucker's up four hours before you, killing it.

01:13:18.000 Well, those guys, they're fuel, right?

01:13:19.000 Guys like Goggins, him, Jocko, Cameron Haynes, those guys are fuel.

01:13:25.000 If you ever start thinking, maybe I'll slack off, maybe I'll take a day off.

01:13:30.000 You look at Jocko's fucking hairy gorilla arm with that 430 on his Iron Man watch, and it just says, attack.

01:13:38.000 That's right.

01:13:39.000 I was showing some of that today.

01:13:40.000 This lady at the clinic that I go to, she was talking about how her boyfriend's into Jocko.

01:13:46.000 She'd go to his fucking Instagram page every morning and you'd see that 4.30 watch.

01:13:51.000 And it's like, fuck, I gotta go.

01:13:53.000 I gotta get going.

01:13:54.000 What am I doing with my life?

01:13:55.000 But it really is fuel.

01:13:58.000 You feel charged up.

01:14:00.000 When I listen to, like, Goggins talk, it's like, a lot of soft motherfuckers want you to stay in bed!

01:14:05.000 Fuck that shit!

01:14:06.000 Fuck that shit!

01:14:07.000 You gotta get up and go attack!

01:14:09.000 Stay hard!

01:14:10.000 And you're like, I'm gonna stay hard, David!

01:14:12.000 Get up and start running!

01:14:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:15.000 Yeah, I love it, man.

01:14:16.000 I love it.

01:14:17.000 It's nice, man.

01:14:18.000 It's cool that we actually have that nowadays.

01:14:20.000 This didn't exist before.

01:14:20.000 Yeah, man.

01:14:21.000 I mean, think about before the internet and podcasts and social media and stuff like that.

01:14:26.000 You had to find that inspiration.

01:14:28.000 It was hard to find.

01:14:29.000 And sometimes you'd think you'd have an inspiring person in your life, but in reality, it was just...

01:14:29.000 Yeah.

01:14:34.000 Some shitbag who was just close enough that it looked like that.

01:14:38.000 Right.

01:14:38.000 When you step back as an adult, you're like, oh, okay.

01:14:40.000 Yeah, there's a lot of fake in it.

01:14:42.000 A lot of people fake like they work hard.

01:14:44.000 Right.

01:14:45.000 Actually, somebody was trying to tell me the story.

01:14:47.000 I've heard you talk about it on here about that guy who pretended to be an MMA guru or whatever and ended up murdering his girlfriend.

01:14:55.000 Well, no, he murdered his girlfriend's husband.

01:14:55.000 Yeah.

01:14:58.000 Yeah, he pretended to be a black belt, and Eddie rolled with him.

01:15:04.000 When you roll with someone, there's no fake in it.

01:15:06.000 With karate, you can kind of fake it.

01:15:09.000 There's guys that are athletic, and they can throw some kicks.

01:15:13.000 Just like learning on the streets.

01:15:13.000 Yeah.

01:15:15.000 Just hanging out with their friends.

01:15:16.000 They know how to throw some kicks.

01:15:16.000 There's people that know how to throw a wheel kick that have never taken a martial arts class in their life.

01:15:21.000 And if you see him throw a kick, it's like, wow, that guy's legit.

01:15:23.000 Right.

01:15:24.000 But you don't know unless you see him actually fight.

01:15:28.000 So the problem with that is in sparring, a lot of karate sparring, you're kind of polite and you're not trying to hurt each other.

01:15:36.000 And you can kind of fake it a little bit.

01:15:38.000 You can throw some shit in the air and fake it and touch each other.

01:15:40.000 Yeah.

01:15:41.000 But in jujitsu, you have to roll.

01:15:43.000 It's, you know, the guy's grabbing your arm, he's arm dragging you, he's taking your back, you gotta defend correctly.

01:15:49.000 And Eddie was like, man, I don't know what the fuck is going on, but that dude is not a black belt.

01:15:53.000 And I'm like, really?

01:15:55.000 I go like, what do you think he is?

01:15:56.000 He's like, he's terrible.

01:15:57.000 He's like, he has nothing.

01:15:59.000 Eddie said he was a CIA. It was before Eddie was deep, deep, deep, deep, deep into conspiracies.

01:16:04.000 Back then, it was like, he was barely, he was like into UFOs and shit.

01:16:07.000 It was barely into conspiracies.

01:16:09.000 He's way off the deep end now.

01:16:10.000 Shit, you got me into UFOs, man.

01:16:13.000 Goddamn.

01:16:14.000 Well, maybe it is true.

01:16:15.000 I'm scheduled to have a phone call today, this afternoon, with George Knapp.

01:16:20.000 He wants to brief me on all this shit.

01:16:22.000 George Knapp is the guy that broke the Bob Lazar story in the 1990s.

01:16:26.000 Yeah.

01:16:26.000 And he shares my opinion.

01:16:28.000 He's like, most of this is bullshit.

01:16:30.000 Most of these people are liars.

01:16:32.000 Most of these people are crazy.

01:16:33.000 Right.

01:16:34.000 Yeah.

01:16:37.000 Right.

01:16:42.000 Right.

01:16:55.000 No.

01:16:56.000 Talking about Sasquatch.

01:16:57.000 Exactly.

01:16:57.000 Yeah, it's Air Force pilots.

01:16:59.000 People who, they're trained to fly jets and have gunfights in the fucking sky.

01:17:04.000 Right.

01:17:05.000 These are exceptional human beings.

01:17:07.000 Yeah.

01:17:07.000 When they see things like that, you gotta go, they know what the fuck they're seeing.

01:17:10.000 That's so crazy.

01:17:11.000 Yeah.

01:17:12.000 Who knows?

01:17:12.000 The thing is, like, every day, you go out there and look in the sky and you don't see shit.

01:17:16.000 You go, there's nothing out there.

01:17:18.000 Because you're not seeing it.

01:17:19.000 But if you go to a fucking lake, you're never going to see a shark.

01:17:23.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:17:24.000 It doesn't mean sharks aren't real.

01:17:26.000 It's like you're looking in the wrong spot or you aren't there when they show up.

01:17:29.000 But they're real.

01:17:30.000 So we have enough accumulated data to know that, oh, there are sharks.

01:17:33.000 They are real, but they're not in lakes.

01:17:35.000 They're in the ocean.

01:17:36.000 Here's where they are.

01:17:37.000 This is how you find them.

01:17:38.000 Go to South Africa.

01:17:39.000 Oh, look, there's a shark.

01:17:40.000 Yeah, let's go to Santa Cruz.

01:17:40.000 Yeah.

01:17:40.000 There's a bunch of them.

01:17:41.000 Oh yeah!

01:17:42.000 Or fucking Catalina.

01:17:44.000 I worked at a Boy Scout camp in Catalina and I was teaching snorkeling.

01:17:50.000 And that was like, the whole time I was shitting myself.

01:17:53.000 It's the nicest water in the world though.

01:17:56.000 It's so warm and salty.

01:17:57.000 You just float.

01:17:59.000 We did Fear Factor out there a couple of times.

01:18:01.000 Really?

01:18:02.000 Yeah, we did a couple of stunts.

01:18:03.000 Nice.

01:18:03.000 A couple of water stunts.

01:18:04.000 It's a cool spot.

01:18:05.000 We stayed on the other side.

01:18:07.000 There's the hotels on the one side and everything.

01:18:09.000 We were on the other side of the campsites.

01:18:10.000 It was awesome.

01:18:11.000 Awesome.

01:18:12.000 I was like 13 and I got so roasted.

01:18:16.000 My entire body became one blister.

01:18:18.000 Oh no.

01:18:19.000 Stupid.

01:18:19.000 I was stupid.

01:18:20.000 No sunscreen?

01:18:21.000 None.

01:18:22.000 Out there all day long.

01:18:23.000 Yeah.

01:18:24.000 So I don't know if UFOs are real, but it's certainly believable enough.

01:18:31.000 It's not like the sky is empty.

01:18:33.000 It's filled with stars.

01:18:35.000 So do you think, after speaking with them, do you think we've had contact like that?

01:18:40.000 It's hard to tell.

01:18:41.000 Yeah, but you, for your own opinion, not for the listeners, not for anybody else, just you, when you're at home and you're chilling, do you think it?

01:18:48.000 I don't know.

01:18:49.000 I really honestly don't know.

01:18:50.000 I couldn't say yes or no.

01:18:51.000 I'm more inclined now to think there's something going on than I was before I met Lazar and watched that documentary.

01:18:58.000 Not that I was saying that aliens are not real.

01:19:01.000 I think there's 100% life out there.

01:19:04.000 For sure.

01:19:04.000 Let's just say that.

01:19:05.000 It's too big.

01:19:06.000 Right.

01:19:06.000 It just doesn't make any sense that there isn't.

01:19:08.000 It's the question of whether or not it ever has gotten here before is the weird question.

01:19:12.000 And it's also, the problem is that you feel foolish talking about it because so many people who believe in it are foolish.

01:19:21.000 And so many people who tell stories, their stories are foolish.

01:19:24.000 So you feel foolish kind of going along with it.

01:19:27.000 But I'm very careful about stuff like that because I'm like, just because something makes you feel foolish doesn't mean it's true.

01:19:33.000 Doesn't mean it's wrong.

01:19:36.000 I definitely think there's a very high likelihood that there's life out there.

01:19:40.000 And it's entirely possible that something's gotten here before.

01:19:43.000 But as to whether or not something really has made contact with people, I don't know.

01:19:49.000 If I would say, like, where's my scale?

01:19:52.000 It's like probably 65% believe.

01:19:55.000 35% going...

01:19:55.000 Yeah.

01:19:56.000 Especially after talking to that guy.

01:19:58.000 Yeah.

01:19:59.000 But he could have experienced something that was an experimental aircraft that they didn't want to tell him.

01:20:05.000 You never know, man.

01:20:05.000 Right.

01:20:06.000 I mean, I just don't know what the tech...

01:20:08.000 Look, I'm a moron.

01:20:09.000 Like, I don't understand physics at all.

01:20:11.000 I have no knowledge of propulsion systems or mathematics, and I don't know what...

01:20:33.000 I don't know.

01:20:41.000 I mean, who knows what that was?

01:20:43.000 I mean, they're taking this guy who was a physicist from Los Alamos Labs, who went to Caltech, and they sent him to these classes at MIT to learn fucking nuclear shit, and then they try to see if he can figure out how to back-engineer something.

01:20:58.000 That doesn't mean it comes from another world.

01:21:00.000 It could have been a Russian thing.

01:21:01.000 It could have been something that the Germans figured out.

01:21:04.000 I don't know.

01:21:05.000 But I'm more inclined to believe him than not believe him.

01:21:09.000 Yeah, he didn't seem like he was full of it, you know?

01:21:11.000 Exactly.

01:21:11.000 And just looking at him, he also didn't seem like he even wanted to be here.

01:21:15.000 He didn't.

01:21:15.000 He was just like, I'm done with this.

01:21:17.000 He was getting migraines, just talking about it before we even got out here.

01:21:20.000 He was like, I just gotta tell you, I'm getting a migraine.

01:21:22.000 Yeah.

01:21:22.000 And like, you know, Jeremy was trying to talk him into doing it, like, we're gonna be fine, George.

01:21:27.000 I mean, Bob is important, it's really good to do this, and We're going to be able to really get the story out.

01:21:32.000 But I think more people told me that they got more out of the conversation because it's just him talking, no spooky music, no edits.

01:21:41.000 And you get to see, like, he's honest about what he knows and doesn't know.

01:21:45.000 And when he would say, like, what do you think about this?

01:21:46.000 He's like, maybe, I don't know.

01:21:48.000 He wasn't a bullshitter.

01:21:49.000 He didn't seem rehearsed or full of shit, nothing.

01:21:52.000 What he was saying, if he didn't believe in that, at least to himself, what he was saying, I'd I'd be fucking amazed.

01:21:59.000 And his story has not deviated in 30 plus years, which you can't...

01:22:03.000 Try to have me tell a story of something that actually really did happen from 30 years ago, and I probably told it a bunch of different times.

01:22:12.000 I don't know what we started the podcast with.

01:22:14.000 Exactly!

01:22:15.000 It's hard to remember, especially when you...

01:22:17.000 My memory varies day to day.

01:22:19.000 Like, some days it's awesome, and some days it's dog shit.

01:22:22.000 Yeah, it's crazy how that works, huh?

01:22:24.000 Yeah.

01:22:24.000 You've had a few concussions, right?

01:22:26.000 Oh, yeah, sure.

01:22:27.000 Same here.

01:22:28.000 Yeah.

01:22:28.000 I have horrible memory.

01:22:30.000 But from football, it's like probably the worst thing ever for concussions, because you're getting them even from body hits.

01:22:36.000 When dudes as big as you are clashing into each other, your fucking brain's getting rattled around in there, even if your head doesn't get hit.

01:22:42.000 Right.

01:22:42.000 And I played rough.

01:22:43.000 Like, I didn't avoid anything.

01:22:45.000 I'm sure.

01:22:46.000 Yeah.

01:22:47.000 Well, that's a strength of yours.

01:22:49.000 A guy as big as you, I mean, I would imagine you would impose that.

01:22:52.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:22:52.000 That's what you paid for college.

01:22:55.000 What did you go to college for?

01:22:57.000 What was the major?

01:22:58.000 History.

01:22:59.000 Oh, that's cool that you're on the History Channel now.

01:23:00.000 Yeah, it is awesome, man.

01:23:02.000 It's actually the only thing I ever liked in school.

01:23:05.000 Like, science and math didn't really click, but history.

01:23:08.000 It was all special to me.

01:23:10.000 Do you listen to Dan Carlin?

01:23:11.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:23:12.000 Of course.

01:23:13.000 The best.

01:23:13.000 Hardcore history.

01:23:14.000 I wish he would just do more.

01:23:16.000 That's the only thing.

01:23:17.000 It's so hard.

01:23:17.000 I know.

01:23:18.000 The research.

01:23:19.000 That's what you have to appreciate.

01:23:20.000 I'm embarrassed to call what I do a podcast in comparison to what he does.

01:23:24.000 What he does is like a lecture.

01:23:26.000 What yours is a podcast, though.

01:23:28.000 He needs to call his something else.

01:23:30.000 That's what it is.

01:23:30.000 It's way more in-depth.

01:23:32.000 His hardcore history on World War II and World War I and the one on the Mongols...

01:23:38.000 Oh, so good.

01:23:39.000 The greatest fucking shit I've ever heard.

01:23:41.000 The Mongol one, I've listened to like four or five times.

01:23:43.000 The Wrath of the Khans.

01:23:44.000 Mm-hmm.

01:23:45.000 Fuck, it's good.

01:23:46.000 He's so good.

01:23:47.000 He's so entertaining, too.

01:23:48.000 It's like if history was that entertaining, we'd have a fucking world full of history scholars.

01:23:52.000 Right.

01:23:53.000 And we wouldn't be censoring Instagram right now because people would know how that works.

01:23:57.000 Then they'd be jacked in town!

01:23:59.000 Put a sock on your cock!

01:24:03.000 Yeah, Dan Carlin, he's a fucking man.

01:24:06.000 He really is.

01:24:07.000 His podcast is incredible.

01:24:08.000 And the fact that he only charges a dollar for them.

01:24:11.000 Oh, I didn't even know he did that.

01:24:12.000 Well, they're free.

01:24:13.000 And then when you go deep into the archives, he charges a dollar a podcast, which is fucking nothing.

01:24:18.000 I mean, they're an hour and a half long.

01:24:20.000 It takes them months and months to do.

01:24:22.000 And he's really just trying to make up for production costs.

01:24:25.000 He's not trying to get rich.

01:24:26.000 He would be charging much more.

01:24:26.000 Right.

01:24:28.000 And they're worth more, man.

01:24:29.000 I've learned.

01:24:30.000 I learned more from that than I did from college.

01:24:32.000 And you retain it because he's entertaining.

01:24:34.000 He's the man.

01:24:35.000 And he's a great guy, too.

01:24:36.000 I really love that guy.

01:24:38.000 And his story is interesting, too.

01:24:40.000 He's an old-time radio guy.

01:24:42.000 He did radio and then was always a history buff.

01:24:45.000 And he even says he's not a historian.

01:24:47.000 He's very self-deprecating.

01:24:48.000 But god damn, you're probably the most important historian of our time.

01:24:52.000 Exactly.

01:24:52.000 For guys like me, I've learned more about history from that guy than probably from anybody.

01:24:58.000 Yeah.

01:24:59.000 So, I mean, probably at this moment now, he technically is a historian, you know?

01:25:03.000 I think he is!

01:25:03.000 We should at least give him that.

01:25:04.000 I mean, he's got...

01:25:05.000 We dub him.

01:25:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know what you have to be to be, I guess, a practicing scholar.

01:25:10.000 I think if you say it on this show, it's official.

01:25:13.000 He's absolutely a historian.

01:25:15.000 Boom.

01:25:16.000 Dan Carlin, you are a historian.

01:25:18.000 Give that man a plaque.

01:25:19.000 Give him a plaque.

01:25:20.000 Give him a piece of paper for some bullshit group of dudes.

01:25:23.000 That's one of my favorite things about the TV show, is being able to, like...

01:25:27.000 Dive into the history of this stuff.

01:25:29.000 We did an episode in England.

01:25:31.000 We were in London for most of it.

01:25:33.000 This guy, Thomas Topham, he was a fucking psychopath person.

01:25:39.000 Just a crazy person.

01:25:41.000 He owned a pub and his way of getting people in was doing these crazy feats of strength.

01:25:47.000 He would go out there.

01:25:49.000 One of the biggest feats of strength, which we challenged ourselves to do and we Actually, attempted a world record.

01:25:56.000 I can't say if we broke it or not.

01:25:57.000 But we took these giant barrels of whiskey out in front of this pub, downtown London, and we were picking them up on like a yoke.

01:26:04.000 You know what a yoke is?

01:26:05.000 Like a yoke walk?

01:26:07.000 Yes, yes.

01:26:07.000 So like that.

01:26:08.000 So the crossbar goes across your back, and you pick up, basically.

01:26:12.000 The world record we were attempting was, I think it was like 1,790 pounds, something like that.

01:26:21.000 It was big.

01:26:22.000 It was big.

01:26:23.000 And in front of a crowd.

01:26:25.000 That's a car!

01:26:26.000 That's a 1968 911. Yeah, exactly.

01:26:31.000 Engine and everything.

01:26:32.000 It was awesome, man.

01:26:33.000 That's crazy.

01:26:34.000 And we get to tell his story and talk about like...

01:26:38.000 My favorite thing we did for the whole season was probably his episode.

01:26:42.000 There's an old tale that he got drunk one night, and back in the day, London police officers had these little huts they would stand in so they could be out of the weather.

01:26:52.000 They were on the side of the road, almost like an outhouse, but a little bit smaller.

01:26:57.000 And they'd stand in there and they'd basically keep watching on the street so the rain didn't get on them.

01:27:03.000 There was a story that he got drunk with his buddies and just to fuck around with his cop.

01:27:07.000 He picked one of those up with him inside, carried it down the street, and threw him into an open grave at the graveyard.

01:27:13.000 Ha!

01:27:14.000 So we did that.

01:27:15.000 It was awesome, man.

01:27:16.000 We're running down these back, cobblestone streets with this, like, we didn't use the real police officer, obviously, but with the whole setup on our, some of us tried to do it on our back, some of us tried to do it other ways, you know?

01:27:27.000 But we're running down and all these people are cheering us on as we're celebrating this guy basically dragged a cop down the street and threw him into a graveyard.

01:27:36.000 It was hilarious.

01:27:38.000 Now, when you do something like that, say a stunt like that, how much of a consideration is, like, when you look at it, you go, okay, I think I can do this, but fuck, I might get hurt doing this.

01:27:46.000 Right.

01:27:47.000 Almost everything.

01:27:48.000 Everything's like that.

01:27:49.000 We were with the Daredevils last night.

01:27:52.000 For the Daredevils.

01:27:54.000 Evil Live.

01:27:55.000 We did a premiere where it was an homage to Evil Knievel.

01:28:00.000 The guy was going to jump a world record jump, but he actually broke his ankles doing the testing for it.

01:28:05.000 So this woman came out, and she broke a world record driving through.

01:28:10.000 They have these platforms set up with boards on fire.

01:28:13.000 And she did 13 boards that were all on fire.

01:28:16.000 She drove face first to them.

01:28:18.000 What?

01:28:18.000 She was a fucking savage.

01:28:20.000 And she was the baddest.

01:28:21.000 I'm so sorry.

01:28:22.000 I can't remember her name right now.

01:28:23.000 But she came over and spoke to me.

01:28:26.000 And I'm from Santa Cruz.

01:28:27.000 You hear the way I'm talking right now.

01:28:29.000 This is how I talk.

01:28:29.000 I'm not super official or anything like that.

01:28:33.000 She came over and I was like, so what are you thinking?

01:28:35.000 She's like, I don't know, bro.

01:28:36.000 Probably drive like 30. Put my face through the motherfucker.

01:28:38.000 I don't know.

01:28:39.000 Like that.

01:28:40.000 I was like, this girl is fucking savage.

01:28:42.000 I love this, you know?

01:28:44.000 It was so awesome.

01:28:45.000 You find her, Jamie?

01:28:46.000 Yeah.

01:28:47.000 What's her name?

01:28:47.000 Vicky Golden.

01:28:48.000 Vicky Golden.

01:28:49.000 She looks like a regular girl.

01:28:50.000 She's not even a giant.

01:28:51.000 She's very pretty.

01:28:53.000 She's normal, like, just...

01:28:54.000 She's putting her face through boards?

01:28:56.000 Yeah.

01:28:57.000 Jesus, Vicky.

01:28:58.000 Crushed.

01:28:58.000 It was so awesome.

01:28:59.000 Oh, my God.

01:28:59.000 Look at that.

01:29:01.000 Fuck, man.

01:29:03.000 See, that's the boards there.

01:29:05.000 That's the guy who had the record.

01:29:06.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:29:07.000 Yeah.

01:29:08.000 Oh, my God.

01:29:09.000 So she's just accelerating through these flaming boards.

01:29:12.000 Yep.

01:29:13.000 Fucking A. Thirteen of them.

01:29:15.000 And that's the kid that broke his ankle, Axel Hodges.

01:29:17.000 He got hurt just like four days before the live show.

01:29:22.000 Well, Evel Knievel, man, they put him back together again back when they didn't even know how to put people back together again.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:29.000 He used glue and shit and screws and rubber bands.

01:29:32.000 Crazy.

01:29:33.000 I mean, he just kept coming back.

01:29:34.000 You ever see the x-rays of Evel Knievel's body?

01:29:36.000 I saw, from this show, I saw a little bit of it.

01:29:39.000 Or the videos of him, like, flopping as he's rolling.

01:29:43.000 And you see his ankle go one way and his arm go the other way, and I'm just...

01:29:47.000 That just creeps me out, man.

01:29:48.000 That guy was an animal.

01:29:50.000 He just didn't...

01:29:51.000 I wonder if he would take something before he would go.

01:29:51.000 I wonder if he was...

01:29:54.000 Cocaine.

01:29:55.000 Everybody was on coke back then.

01:29:56.000 You think so?

01:29:57.000 Yeah, it makes sense.

01:29:57.000 Yeah.

01:29:58.000 Guaranteed.

01:29:58.000 Yeah.

01:29:59.000 I'm talking shit.

01:29:59.000 What year was that?

01:30:01.000 Probably the 70s and the 80s, right?

01:30:02.000 If it was before 95, everybody was on coke.

01:30:05.000 Yeah.

01:30:06.000 I bet they would.

01:30:07.000 It makes sense.

01:30:07.000 Yeah.

01:30:08.000 Hell yeah.

01:30:09.000 I mean, that would be the thing.

01:30:10.000 Do a fucking giant bump.

01:30:12.000 If he wasn't, he should have been.

01:30:15.000 Yeah.

01:30:16.000 God damn it.

01:30:17.000 Like, some meth type substance.

01:30:17.000 Right.

01:30:19.000 Yeah.

01:30:20.000 So that's what I was talking to them about, is basically the same way they look at a stunt is the way we look at a lift.

01:30:26.000 It's like, this could possibly cripple me.

01:30:29.000 This could finish my career.

01:30:31.000 All that stuff.

01:30:32.000 We could...

01:30:33.000 What do you got, Jamie?

01:30:34.000 When he jumped the Caesars Fountains in 1967, he crushed pelvis.

01:30:42.000 And femur.

01:30:43.000 Fractures to his hip, wrist, and both ankles.

01:30:45.000 Concussion that kept him in the hospital.

01:30:47.000 And rumors that he was in a coma for 29 days.

01:30:49.000 Mm-hmm.

01:30:50.000 He got out and kept jumping.

01:30:52.000 I think it was six months, right?

01:30:52.000 Came back.

01:30:54.000 Like, they talked about this.

01:30:55.000 I can't remember how long it was.

01:30:57.000 But he was right back out on it.

01:30:59.000 See if you can find a picture of his x-ray.

01:31:00.000 I did.

01:31:01.000 They're super old, so it's not clear what it was.

01:31:04.000 I looked for that first.

01:31:05.000 And I was just kidding.

01:31:06.000 He probably wasn't doing any drugs.

01:31:08.000 Just making a joke.

01:31:09.000 I'll say it.

01:31:09.000 He's doing coke.

01:31:11.000 Probably drinking, doing coke, having a great time.

01:31:13.000 Why not?

01:31:14.000 Fuck it.

01:31:15.000 Everybody else did.

01:31:16.000 Yeah.

01:31:17.000 It was...

01:31:18.000 For that specific lift that we did, I didn't really...

01:31:22.000 That's him at Caesars, huh?

01:31:25.000 Jesus Christ.

01:31:26.000 Look how fucking far...

01:31:27.000 This is actually his son.

01:31:28.000 That's looked too clear to be 1967. Oh, I met his son.

01:31:30.000 I met his son on the set of Fear Factor.

01:31:32.000 Yeah, his son made it.

01:31:32.000 I think he made it, right?

01:31:33.000 Yeah.

01:31:35.000 With the front end that high?

01:31:37.000 Yeah, that's Robbie.

01:31:38.000 Wow.

01:31:41.000 Oh, don't show me.

01:31:41.000 Fucking crazy.

01:31:43.000 Jesus Christ, he's gonna die!

01:31:45.000 He goes limp, man.

01:31:46.000 That stuff creeps me out.

01:31:48.000 Yeah.

01:31:49.000 Well, it was just weird that that was a thing.

01:31:51.000 Like, when we were kids, Evil Knievel was like the daredevil guy.

01:31:56.000 Like, you know, like, what do you think?

01:31:57.000 You're Evil Knievel?

01:31:58.000 Right, the toys and everything, man.

01:32:00.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:32:01.000 They had that wind-up back end that would just shoot him forward.

01:32:05.000 So you have to look at a lift similar to the way they would look at a stunt.

01:32:10.000 There's a high possibility.

01:32:12.000 Right.

01:32:13.000 And everything from where you step, those cobblestone streets, that was the scariest part of that.

01:32:18.000 Because the thing itself was, I think it was like 400-something, something like that.

01:32:18.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:23.000 It wasn't like crazy heavy.

01:32:24.000 It was around 400 pounds.

01:32:26.000 So for us, that's not that big of a deal unless you put your foot wrong with 400 pounds.

01:32:32.000 Then all of a sudden, there goes your ankle, there goes your knee, there goes your Achilles.

01:32:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:32:37.000 And the other thing is, once the whistle blows and it's on and we're racing or you're playing in a sport and the fight starts or the game starts, when the whistle blows, all that shit's gone.

01:32:49.000 Right.

01:32:51.000 The hesitation's gone.

01:32:52.000 I'm going to fucking win.

01:32:53.000 That's what I'm here for.

01:32:55.000 So that's when you really have to worry about that.

01:32:58.000 So beforehand, I'll always walk the course and just look like, okay, I want to hug this corner.

01:33:04.000 Even if it's going to take me a little bit longer, I'll be loose on this corner because it's a little bit of a dip.

01:33:10.000 You know, stuff like that.

01:33:11.000 But, you know, I mean, it doesn't always turn out right.

01:33:14.000 First World's Strongest Man, Franco Colombo, just destroyed his knee carrying a fridge.

01:33:18.000 Did he really?

01:33:19.000 Yeah, which actually changed a lot of the structure of contracts that we sign now.

01:33:23.000 Franco Colombo was in the first World's Strongest Man?

01:33:26.000 Yeah, I believe it was Franco Columbo.

01:33:28.000 There was Lou Ferrigno, Franco Columbo.

01:33:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:32.000 Franco was the shorter guy who used to turn with Arnold, right?

01:33:35.000 He was the guy who used to blow up hot water bottles with his lungs and make them explode.

01:33:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:39.000 Right.

01:33:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:40.000 Which is fucking insane about a lung power.

01:33:44.000 Yeah.

01:33:45.000 That's like longevity power, too.

01:33:46.000 That's the kind of stuff I really like.

01:33:48.000 I can't wait until I'm done with the sport and I can actually do stuff that'll make me feel good.

01:33:53.000 Yeah.

01:33:54.000 You know, instead of like waking up broken every day, I'll be like, oh, I can do a little bit of yoga.

01:33:58.000 I like to hike, that kind of stuff.

01:34:01.000 Yeah, you're looking forward to a normal life.

01:34:02.000 Yes, exactly.

01:34:03.000 What injuries have you had?

01:34:06.000 The first amateur show I was doing, I actually competed.

01:34:11.000 Brian Shaw, who was on the TV show with us, he's four-time World's Strongest Man winner out of Colorado.

01:34:17.000 He was hosting an amateur show in Colorado.

01:34:19.000 And I was in Santa Cruz training, ocean, sea level.

01:34:24.000 Went up to outside of Denver to compete at the show and fucking had a heart attack.

01:34:29.000 It was so, so hard.

01:34:31.000 But it was the deadlift.

01:34:33.000 It was like maybe two months after I started deadlifting.

01:34:39.000 Maybe three months.

01:34:40.000 So I'd never really deadlifted.

01:34:41.000 And we were deadlifting a car.

01:34:46.000 We're good to go.

01:35:08.000 So I go out, and I pull the car up.

01:35:10.000 I do the first rep, and I was like...

01:35:12.000 Just basically, it took 90% of everything I had for that first rep.

01:35:16.000 But like a meathead, I was like, I'll pull the second one, you know?

01:35:19.000 It's four reps.

01:35:21.000 So I go pull the second one.

01:35:22.000 About halfway up, my lower back pops, and I just let go.

01:35:26.000 Both my legs went stiff, and then they went numb completely.

01:35:29.000 I fall forward into Brian's arms, actually, as he's judging me.

01:35:33.000 And my legs were numb...

01:35:36.000 Maybe two months straight and then off and on for like two years.

01:35:41.000 They were just so bad.

01:35:43.000 For that first two months, I actually finished that show, ended up in second place, qualified for nationals, which was my goal so I could get my pro card.

01:35:54.000 I went home, started training for nationals with numb legs and had to sleep in my pickup truck because I couldn't lay down.

01:36:00.000 We had a studio at the time, no chairs, we just had a bed.

01:36:04.000 And so I would sleep in my pickup truck, get up, drive to the gym, go train.

01:36:07.000 And looking back, like, yeah, that was stupid.

01:36:11.000 It was really stupid.

01:36:13.000 But once I'd failed at football, in my eyes I'd failed.

01:36:18.000 Once I'd kind of painted myself in this corner, I was like, I'm just not going to lose.

01:36:22.000 And you never got an MRI? No.

01:36:26.000 I didn't have insurance.

01:36:27.000 Fuck, but even now you don't want to get a look-see?

01:36:30.000 I kind of do.

01:36:31.000 I mean, it feels good now.

01:36:33.000 I mean, I should take a peek.

01:36:35.000 I might.

01:36:37.000 I'm going to go get my Achilles checked out because this last World's Strongest Man had a decent pop in my Achilles.

01:36:43.000 So I'm going to get that checked out.

01:36:45.000 But I've been really careful about how I rehab stuff like that.

01:36:50.000 But you're right.

01:36:51.000 Yes, I should check out my back.

01:36:53.000 That is crazy, though, that your legs were numb for two years.

01:36:55.000 Yeah, off and on.

01:36:56.000 They were straight numb for about two months.

01:36:58.000 Straight numb, like someone could stab you in the leg?

01:37:00.000 Like a sleep.

01:37:02.000 Like that.

01:37:02.000 Oh, okay.

01:37:03.000 Yeah, and it was sciatic.

01:37:04.000 I pinched my sciatic is basically what I was told.

01:37:07.000 And so, you know, I figured that out.

01:37:10.000 Then after that, I was in Africa and I ripped my bicep off the tendon.

01:37:16.000 And I'd been getting beaten up a lot at that point.

01:37:20.000 And like my first year at World's Strongest Man, it was so easy for me to get to the finals.

01:37:24.000 I kind of just was like, you know, fucking, you know, it's whatever.

01:37:28.000 I don't have to work for this.

01:37:30.000 I am the strongest man without having to work for it.

01:37:32.000 We're good to go.

01:37:48.000 And sitting there and just feeling like broken.

01:37:51.000 Just like I didn't know what I was going to do with myself or anything like that.

01:37:54.000 And I walked back to the tent and the referees were telling me like, you know, get your stuff.

01:37:59.000 They don't want you there.

01:38:00.000 Once you get hurt, they have to fly you home right away.

01:38:02.000 They don't let you stay and watch the finish or any of that shit.

01:38:05.000 They make you leave.

01:38:06.000 Why?

01:38:07.000 I think it's a liability thing.

01:38:08.000 I don't know.

01:38:09.000 Basically, they just got to get rid of you.

01:38:11.000 But the judge for the show was like, hey, we're doing what's called the Hercules hold.

01:38:17.000 And you're up.

01:38:18.000 Are you going to do it?

01:38:19.000 And the Hercules hold means you reach out with both arms here like this.

01:38:23.000 And you have like a handle, like basically like in the gym, you know, the row handles like that attached to a tower that's falling.

01:38:33.000 And you hold it as long as you possibly can.

01:38:36.000 In my mind, I was like, this is the last time I'm ever going to be here.

01:38:39.000 So I might as well leave some fucking blood on the bar.

01:38:42.000 So I walked out and did it.

01:38:44.000 The torn bicep off the bone.

01:38:46.000 Yeah.

01:38:47.000 The tendon.

01:38:49.000 So I went over there, and I was just like, fuck it.

01:38:52.000 Let's at least leave a mark, you know?

01:38:54.000 I had to do something.

01:38:55.000 Did you tape it up or anything?

01:38:56.000 What are you going to tape up?

01:38:57.000 I mean, it's fully extended your arm.

01:39:00.000 It's basically just taking weight, pulling you.

01:39:04.000 So it's not direct curling hurting, but it's yanking a tendon further up into your bicep.

01:39:10.000 And I felt it creeping up into my shoulder as I was doing it.

01:39:14.000 And I did great, actually.

01:39:16.000 Yeah.

01:39:17.000 It was the best event I'd had that year.

01:39:19.000 That's crazy.

01:39:20.000 And I remember just closing my eyes and being gone.

01:39:20.000 I crushed it.

01:39:23.000 When I let go, it was almost like being baptized, man.

01:39:27.000 I felt all the pain and all the stress.

01:39:29.000 Everything I'd felt build up once I'd gotten hurt, I'd just dumped it all.

01:39:35.000 It took me...

01:39:38.000 I think it was two more years.

01:39:39.000 I finally fought back.

01:39:40.000 I thought I was done.

01:39:42.000 And then last year, I made it back into the finals.

01:39:46.000 I'm now, again, top 10 strongest man in the world.

01:39:49.000 So was it because of surgery and rehab?

01:39:52.000 Surgery.

01:39:53.000 And then everything else was so beat up.

01:39:55.000 Once I finally stepped back, I was like...

01:39:59.000 There's no reason I should have to take an hour to be able to walk in the morning.

01:40:05.000 There's no reason why my back should hurt from walking from the front door to the car.

01:40:10.000 I was so wrecked.

01:40:12.000 And so I just started working on different things, trying to take care of myself.

01:40:15.000 And I got back to Worlds.

01:40:18.000 That next year, actually.

01:40:19.000 I got back and I just didn't do well because I hadn't been able to do anything.

01:40:23.000 And then came back the following year, which was just this last year.

01:40:31.000 Basically, I'd been written off.

01:40:32.000 I was told it was my last time I was getting invited because at this point, you're done.

01:40:38.000 It's time for you to find something else.

01:40:40.000 And came out and I've had the show in my life.

01:40:44.000 I've been working so hard, but you never know how strong you are until you line up.

01:40:48.000 You never know what kind of athlete you are until you get tested.

01:40:52.000 So I lined up and I got done.

01:40:55.000 I just crushed.

01:40:56.000 When I finished, I loaded the stone and I knew I was in the finals.

01:41:02.000 Like, dude, I get emotional just thinking about it right now.

01:41:06.000 It just felt like somebody had just washed all that away.

01:41:08.000 Wow.

01:41:09.000 I remember ripping my shirt off.

01:41:11.000 I am a fucking showman, I'll tell you that.

01:41:13.000 I had my Strong and Pretty shirt underneath, and I ripped my World's Strongest Man shirt and showed my Strong and Pretty shirt, and I was just roaring.

01:41:21.000 We were in Malaysia, and everybody just kind of stepped back a little bit.

01:41:27.000 It was awesome, man.

01:41:28.000 So what kind of stuff did you do to try to rehab your body, to try to get your body back into condition?

01:41:32.000 Tons of core work, tons of stretching, and basically just digging out scar tissue is huge.

01:41:39.000 It's huge.

01:41:40.000 A lot of people use a Theragun and stuff like that.

01:41:42.000 I went the cheap route.

01:41:43.000 I took a Black& Decker skill saw, and I got the stuff attachments, put it all together.

01:41:49.000 It cost me like $65.

01:41:52.000 But like...

01:41:53.000 Stuff like that, I kind of figured it all out as I was going.

01:41:58.000 There's people out there that were telling you stuff, but it wasn't as easily accessible when I was first going.

01:42:05.000 Literally, now we have a website called Starting Strongman.

01:42:09.000 People who want to train and figure out what's a safe way to start out.

01:42:13.000 If I want to train like this, but I don't want to buy all the equipment.

01:42:18.000 Or if I do want to be the strongest man in the world.

01:42:21.000 If I just want to know what kind of type of lifts to use to keep your back healthy, to help you use your upper back instead of your lower back when you're pulling, that kind of stuff.

01:42:32.000 I mean, it's all there now.

01:42:34.000 Literally, that did not exist.

01:42:36.000 You just have to listen to the sock on the cock guy in the gym telling you what to do, you know?

01:42:42.000 Right, right.

01:42:43.000 That's what it was for me.

01:42:44.000 It was a bunch of older lifters, and I remember just, you know, warming up is for pussies and all that kind of shit.

01:42:50.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:50.000 Really?

01:42:51.000 Old school lifting, man.

01:42:52.000 Warming up is for pussies.

01:42:53.000 Yeah.

01:42:54.000 You ever see a lion warm up before it chases a gazelle?

01:42:56.000 I've heard that nonsense before.

01:42:58.000 It's ridiculous.

01:42:58.000 Laird Hamilton was talking that crazy.

01:43:00.000 It's crazy.

01:43:01.000 Yeah.

01:43:01.000 It's crazy.

01:43:02.000 I'm not a lion, and I'm not going after a gazelle.

01:43:05.000 Yeah, if you have to, it's there.

01:43:07.000 But if you want to take care of your body, it's definitely better to warm up.

01:43:11.000 Yes, exactly.

01:43:12.000 If you watch a guy like Manny Pacquiao train, I watched him work out once with Freddie Roach, and he warms up for a long time.

01:43:22.000 Yeah.

01:43:23.000 It's like 15, 20 minutes of warming up.

01:43:27.000 They said that about Ali, that Ali would warm up for one hour.

01:43:30.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 So an hour of his workout was him just warming up his body, just moving, moving along and getting, stretching and rolling his arms and his legs and rolling his hips.

01:43:42.000 And then once that blood's flowing, then he starts shuffling.

01:43:45.000 Right.

01:43:45.000 Then he starts hitting the bag.

01:43:46.000 Then he starts hitting the pads.

01:43:47.000 Right.

01:43:47.000 The older I get, the more I realize how important that is.

01:43:51.000 And how important it is to teach the next generation how to warm up.

01:43:57.000 Even just rolling your hips.

01:43:58.000 I only started doing that in the last year and a half.

01:44:01.000 That's crazy.

01:44:02.000 It's crazy!

01:44:03.000 It's crazy.

01:44:03.000 I put all that strain on my hips and low back.

01:44:06.000 I'm telling you, forever.

01:44:08.000 And didn't even move my hips in a circle.

01:44:11.000 For your low back, do you ever use a reverse hyper?

01:44:14.000 I do.

01:44:14.000 I use a reverse hyper.

01:44:16.000 I like to do a lot of stiff leg stuff.

01:44:18.000 I avoid deadlifts as much as possible, but I still compete.

01:44:22.000 I can't.

01:44:23.000 What I did now was, what a lot of guys do, is they use a suit.

01:44:27.000 I didn't know everyone was using deadlift suits and it was actually protecting their low back.

01:44:32.000 A lot of what a deadlift suit does is transfer it to your upper back.

01:44:37.000 I went to Worlds this year and it was the first time I didn't zero the deadlift at Worlds Strongest Man.

01:44:42.000 I pulled it up and it was fucking easy.

01:44:45.000 I was in my groups and I was cruising.

01:44:48.000 What does zero the deadlift mean?

01:44:49.000 I didn't get a no rep.

01:44:51.000 It was the first time I actually pulled the deadlift rep at Worlds Strongest Man.

01:44:55.000 Every year I've been fighting to get in the finals and doing my best with one arm tied behind my back because when this event comes I get zero points.

01:45:01.000 But I finally figured that out.

01:45:04.000 I was still thinking that I was close to retiring even though I was feeling better.

01:45:09.000 But then I realized that I'm so much stronger now and I don't have all the pain.

01:45:14.000 So I'm almost at peak age for strength too.

01:45:19.000 So I've got to give it a couple more years.

01:45:21.000 What's the peak age for strength?

01:45:22.000 They say, at least from what I've been told, they say it's like between 34 and 36 is four strong men.

01:45:28.000 This is what I've always been told.

01:45:30.000 But honestly, I think the longer we study this stuff, the more we're realizing is like, if you treat your body right, you can keep getting stronger as long as you don't break things, mess things up.

01:45:41.000 That's the big issue, right?

01:45:42.000 People break things and they have to work around those things and they break something else and they're compensating because one knee's fucked up and then the other knee blows out because it's compensating for the bad knee.

01:45:51.000 Exactly.

01:45:52.000 Yeah.

01:45:52.000 I always tell people, like I know a lot of people that have had ACL surgeries or ACL injuries and they try to not have surgery.

01:45:59.000 They try to just rehab it.

01:46:01.000 And I'm like, God damn it, just get the fucking surgery.

01:46:04.000 Yeah, you're going to be out for six months, but at least you'll have a fixed knee.

01:46:08.000 Right.

01:46:09.000 In a year you'll be happy.

01:46:10.000 Yeah, you'll be great.

01:46:12.000 And years can happen whether you like it or not.

01:46:14.000 Right.

01:46:15.000 And this way, that year happens, and while it's happening, you'll realize, like, hey, I gotta keep my fucking legs strong.

01:46:21.000 Right.

01:46:21.000 I gotta keep all those stabilizer muscles strong.

01:46:24.000 Right.

01:46:24.000 And then everything else doesn't fall apart.

01:46:26.000 Yeah, hamstring.

01:46:26.000 Hamstring strength is big.

01:46:28.000 Huge.

01:46:29.000 And butt strength.

01:46:30.000 A lot of guys don't like to do, like, butt exercises.

01:46:32.000 It's huge, man.

01:46:33.000 It saves your low back.

01:46:35.000 It makes you feel better.

01:46:35.000 And also, stretching out the front end of your hips and your abdominals.

01:46:40.000 Stretching that stuff.

01:46:41.000 That company, you've spoke about him.

01:46:42.000 So right.

01:46:43.000 Yeah.

01:46:43.000 They actually just, they hit me up the other day and they were like, we really want to send you one of these.

01:46:47.000 And I was like, fuck yeah.

01:46:48.000 Do we have them here?

01:46:49.000 Do you want one?

01:46:49.000 No, well they're sending me one.

01:46:51.000 We got one I'll give you right now.

01:46:52.000 Nice.

01:46:53.000 Yeah, they gave us a box of them.

01:46:54.000 I give them to people.

01:46:54.000 They're awesome.

01:46:55.000 I fucking believe in them.

01:46:56.000 They're not expensive.

01:46:57.000 It's real simple.

01:46:58.000 Super easy to use.

01:47:00.000 I put them down on the ground and lie on it.

01:47:02.000 It's just like, Gets in there and dig.

01:47:05.000 And it's not just for the psoas muscle.

01:47:06.000 It's for your whole back.

01:47:07.000 Right.

01:47:08.000 I use it on everything.

01:47:09.000 I use it on my shoulders.

01:47:10.000 I use it on my legs.

01:47:10.000 Yeah, I saw a video where this guy was doing the outside of his legs and everything with it.

01:47:14.000 Fucking brutal.

01:47:15.000 Yeah.

01:47:15.000 But you know what my favorite is?

01:47:16.000 That Tim Tam thing.

01:47:18.000 That thing right there?

01:47:18.000 You see that?

01:47:19.000 That jackhammer motherfucker?

01:47:20.000 Yeah.

01:47:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:47:21.000 That's like an upgraded Theragun.

01:47:24.000 That's like even more powerful.

01:47:24.000 Yeah.

01:47:25.000 The new ones, yeah.

01:47:26.000 Yeah, that thing's amazing.

01:47:28.000 And they don't die as quick, too.

01:47:29.000 A lot of the guys at Worlds use those.

01:47:30.000 Those are good.

01:47:31.000 They're so good.

01:47:32.000 Yeah.

01:47:32.000 All that kind of recovery stuff is so important.

01:47:35.000 Guys that think they could just work out and not take that time and recover.

01:47:39.000 Right.

01:47:40.000 I was that guy, though.

01:47:41.000 You learn.

01:47:43.000 When this ripped, it was the full tear, finally.

01:47:49.000 My tendon exploded.

01:47:51.000 It didn't rip, actually.

01:47:52.000 It had exploded.

01:47:53.000 Was that when you were doing the Hercules thing?

01:47:55.000 No, no.

01:47:56.000 That was after.

01:47:57.000 That was after.

01:47:58.000 So when that happened, it didn't fully separate.

01:48:01.000 But when I went home and I was training down the road, this was like a little while later.

01:48:06.000 So you didn't even get surgery immediately?

01:48:08.000 You couldn't.

01:48:09.000 You can't.

01:48:10.000 Because first off, if it's muscle or if it's not completely separated, you can't get surgery.

01:48:10.000 Why?

01:48:14.000 But this, basically what I'm saying is exactly what you're saying, just a different time period.

01:48:20.000 This exploded off the tendon when I was doing a world record attempt for an axle in training.

01:48:27.000 And that, I was like, I knew it was tore right away.

01:48:30.000 But we had the pilot for the TV show we were supposed to film in Nova Scotia, Canada the next day.

01:48:36.000 And I knew what an opportunity it was.

01:48:38.000 So I said, fuck it.

01:48:39.000 I went and took a shower and got on a plane and I flew to Canada.

01:48:42.000 And in Canada, with it completely torn, knowing that I needed surgery and it hurting like the worst pain ever, we had to flip a boat.

01:48:51.000 So like one of those little rowboats, we had to flip it like a tire.

01:48:55.000 Then we carried 300 pound water jugs up a hill.

01:48:58.000 We did like all this stuff with that separated and the entire time it just felt like someone was stabbing me with a cattle prod.

01:49:06.000 But that was meathead.

01:49:10.000 Were you worried that you were doing more permanent damage though?

01:49:13.000 Not on the bicep.

01:49:14.000 Once the bicep goes, the only thing worse you can really do is shove it up higher so they have to flay you deeper when they pull it down.

01:49:21.000 Flay is a hard word.

01:49:23.000 Yeah.

01:49:24.000 Flay.

01:49:25.000 I'm thinking of some fucking Inquisition-type torture device.

01:49:28.000 Right, right.

01:49:29.000 But I had a great surgeon.

01:49:31.000 I was taking care of men, and it wasn't too bad.

01:49:35.000 How long is the rehab?

01:49:37.000 Two minutes?

01:49:38.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:49:40.000 Three weeks in a cast, and then he gave me an arm brace that I'd adjust it every week or so to where it would go more and more straight.

01:49:49.000 And then that was maybe three months before I could use it.

01:49:54.000 And at that point, it's not like I could go do what I was doing.

01:49:57.000 It's at that point, you start over.

01:49:59.000 Wow.

01:50:00.000 And it was, my arm was like tiny.

01:50:00.000 Yeah.

01:50:03.000 I was pretty pissed off.

01:50:05.000 Well, even your arm tiny is probably.

01:50:06.000 Right.

01:50:07.000 I'm a regular person.

01:50:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:08.000 But how weird is that?

01:50:10.000 I'm walking around with one arm like this and the other arm looks like it works at some IT company.

01:50:15.000 Well, you know Boss Rootin?

01:50:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:17.000 I've met him a few times.

01:50:18.000 Boss has what he calls baby arm.

01:50:20.000 He has one arm that's small because of atrophy, because of pinched nerves.

01:50:24.000 Right.

01:50:25.000 It's really kind of fucked up.

01:50:27.000 Yeah.

01:50:27.000 To this day, I don't think he can hold up a jug of milk.

01:50:31.000 He couldn't hold a jug of milk in his arm and extend his arm.

01:50:31.000 Oh, shit.

01:50:35.000 That's a guy that, for some reason, didn't get a lot of the love that he so deserves.

01:50:40.000 He was a pioneer.

01:50:41.000 Savage.

01:50:41.000 Yeah, and one of the original technical strikers.

01:50:46.000 Right.

01:50:47.000 Taking on dudes way bigger than him and still handling them.

01:50:50.000 Like, Hoist Gracie is amazing and savage, but he was doing the exact same thing.

01:50:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:55.000 Yeah, he was just years later.

01:50:57.000 But if Hoist had to fight Boss Rutten, it would have been ugly.

01:51:00.000 But the thing is, like, in the early days, Boss didn't understand submissions either, so Hoist would have probably got him if it was, like, UFC 1. Who knows?

01:51:07.000 You know, it's a crazy sport, and the people that have been able to, you know, like pave the way, like a guy like Boss Root, they were massively important.

01:51:07.000 Right.

01:51:16.000 He's such a good dude, too.

01:51:18.000 He's so nice.

01:51:18.000 He's such a savage.

01:51:19.000 He would just shoot cortisone into everything.

01:51:21.000 All of his joints are all fucked up, because he would just take cortisone shots, just shoot it into everything.

01:51:26.000 Lidocaine, he'd shoot lidocaine into his shins.

01:51:28.000 Oh, my God.

01:51:29.000 So he could fucking blast people, not feel anything.

01:51:31.000 Not feel anything.

01:51:34.000 He's such an animal.

01:51:35.000 He's such an animal.

01:51:36.000 He had amazing stories, though.

01:51:38.000 We went to his gym.

01:51:40.000 I did Moss Wrestling.

01:51:41.000 Moss Wrestling is like an old Russian-style wrestling where you have a stick, and you each hold the ends of the stick and try and take it from each other.

01:51:50.000 I did it twice, two tournaments, and I was...

01:51:54.000 The undefeated American champion for a year and a half after doing it twice.

01:51:59.000 But we went to his gym to do the qualifiers to go to the world championship in Dubai.

01:52:05.000 And he came out there and he was judging and stuff.

01:52:07.000 And I remember like, I basically, I was way bigger than most people and I'm like upper body heavy.

01:52:13.000 So I just lean back and take it.

01:52:15.000 And at the end of it, he walked over and he goes, he's like, the force is strong with you, son.

01:52:20.000 Yeah.

01:52:21.000 I love this guy.

01:52:23.000 Yeah, he's got a great personality.

01:52:25.000 He's a great commentator, too.

01:52:27.000 It's fun.

01:52:27.000 He's great at that.

01:52:28.000 He makes shit fun.

01:52:30.000 Yeah, he seems like a cool dude.

01:52:31.000 What's the average lifespan in terms of how much time you can compete at the highest level for strongmen?

01:52:37.000 Because it seems like...

01:52:39.000 Everything is just so fucking heavy.

01:52:41.000 Everything's going to almost blow out.

01:52:44.000 How many years can a guy expect to compete at the highest level?

01:52:48.000 It depends on the guy.

01:52:49.000 We're getting better at holding on to that kind of stuff.

01:52:52.000 If you make it to the top echelon, so that you're saying at the top level...

01:52:57.000 I'd say the average is low.

01:52:59.000 It's probably like a year, two years.

01:53:01.000 But if you just took the last five years and kind of cut that out and did your own study with that five years, I'd say guys now are going to average more like three to five years, five, maybe six, if you're doing good.

01:53:17.000 But then you have these guys like Brian Shaw's been doing it since before I even knew what it was.

01:53:23.000 Brian Shaw's...

01:53:24.000 Four-time World's Strongest Man out of Colorado.

01:53:26.000 He takes his rehab seriously.

01:53:28.000 He doesn't care about how much it costs or what it takes.

01:53:34.000 To him, he's an athlete first.

01:53:36.000 So he's got these really amazing cold pools and hot pools right next to each other at his house and all the different type of equipment that he would need to rehab.

01:53:44.000 And he's always making sure he gets bodywork done two, three times a week.

01:53:48.000 And when we're on the road...

01:53:50.000 When we were on the road, for me, it was an education because I was with Nick Best, who's 55, and he's still doing this.

01:53:59.000 Really?

01:54:00.000 Yeah, 55. How?

01:54:02.000 He's just a savage, man.

01:54:04.000 He's an old powerlifter, and he's at the point where he needs help to get down to the ground to pick something up.

01:54:10.000 But he's trying to figure that stuff out, and he's definitely going to pay for the years of savagery, for sure.

01:54:17.000 But we have him, and then we have Eddie Hall.

01:54:19.000 Eddie Hall is one World's Strongest Man in 2017, and he's the strongest person to ever deadlift in the world.

01:54:26.000 He pulled 500 kilos from the ground, which is 1,104 pounds, I believe.

01:54:31.000 500 kilo deadlift.

01:54:32.000 Just straight stood up with it like it was nothing.

01:54:35.000 Looked around the crowd, made sure they understood he had it like it was easy, and then put it back down, you know?

01:54:40.000 Damn.

01:54:40.000 In a lot of people's opinion, that makes him the strongest man ever to live.

01:54:44.000 Deadlift, to a lot of people, is king.

01:54:46.000 Then we have Brian Shaw, four times world's strongest man, and he's a mad scientist with this stuff.

01:54:52.000 If you go to talk to Brian Shaw about the trajectory of a sandbag or Or how you want to put your hand placement or where you want to do this or that or like anything that has to do with the science of lifting.

01:55:04.000 He can dissect it like basically Bill Nye the science guy.

01:55:07.000 That's what I always call him.

01:55:09.000 Is that a Debo?

01:55:10.000 Because he gets crazy.

01:55:11.000 He reminds me of Debo from Friday.

01:55:14.000 And he makes me look small.

01:55:16.000 Brian's got me by like two inches and like 40 pounds.

01:55:19.000 Wow.

01:55:19.000 And when he gets tired or hungry, he starts to get that flex, you know?

01:55:22.000 And he's like, it goes like that.

01:55:24.000 He's like, Debo, calm down.

01:55:27.000 But I'm traveling the world with these guys, and I'm basically picking my little pieces out of what they've learned and what they've done, because I'm very young in this game.

01:55:36.000 I haven't been doing it for a long time.

01:55:39.000 I'm getting to the point now where I feel comfortable calling myself not a rookie.

01:55:44.000 I wouldn't say I'm a vet.

01:55:45.000 I'm right about that.

01:55:46.000 But I've got to learn what Brian does for his rehab.

01:55:50.000 How many times he gets massage therapy and what the difference is between massage therapy and a massage or someone who's a PT and someone who actually is fluent in deep tissue or sports therapy, that kind of stuff.

01:56:02.000 You learn all that stuff.

01:56:04.000 I never took the time or spent the money, honestly.

01:56:07.000 I just...

01:56:09.000 I was never in a situation where I could spend that money and take care of myself that way.

01:56:13.000 It always kind of seemed like a luxury, and it's not.

01:56:17.000 For them, it's maintenance.

01:56:19.000 It's like getting the oil changed in your car.

01:56:21.000 Do you roll out with a lacrosse ball?

01:56:23.000 Yes.

01:56:23.000 Or do you use one of those wad balls?

01:56:25.000 I use a softball.

01:56:26.000 Yeah, I use softball because it's big and it's not hard like a baseball.

01:56:30.000 So, I mean, for a lot of people that's too much, but for me it's perfect.

01:56:33.000 And I actually do a lot of, I try and get a lot of people to do them on the front of their hips too because it's nice like pressure point stuff.

01:56:40.000 Really good.

01:56:41.000 Or like an atlas stone.

01:56:43.000 The balls that we lift, the concrete stones.

01:56:45.000 You just roll your stomach over that and just relax.

01:56:48.000 And just let it sit there and it kind of just pushes everything back and moves it around.

01:56:53.000 So I like doing a lot of that stuff.

01:56:55.000 I've seen a lot of guys do that with kettlebells as well.

01:56:57.000 You lie down on them and roll it over your back because it's unforgiving and it pulls all the tissue apart.

01:56:57.000 Yeah.

01:57:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:04.000 Now, what about food?

01:57:06.000 What kind of diet are you guys on?

01:57:09.000 We all basically eat the exact same thing.

01:57:11.000 We all just a ton of meat and rice and we do a lot of peppers and stuff like that.

01:57:16.000 No one's vegan?

01:57:17.000 No.

01:57:18.000 No, no.

01:57:20.000 Isn't that one guy that Patrick, what the fuck's his name?

01:57:23.000 There's a vegan strongman I've heard of.

01:57:25.000 I don't remember his name, but he's never been the world's strongest man.

01:57:30.000 Well, there's a documentary they're doing with James Cameron where they're trying to promote him.

01:57:34.000 James Cameron is on this vegan kick.

01:57:37.000 His wife has a school and they feed the kids all vegan food and Arnold's a part of this too.

01:57:42.000 Yeah, that guy.

01:57:43.000 Yeah, I know who that is.

01:57:44.000 He's not one of the strongest men in the world.

01:57:47.000 He's a strong man and he's strong.

01:57:49.000 And no disrespect, I'm not saying anything bad about him.

01:57:53.000 Put that back up again, Jamie.

01:57:55.000 From what I recall, he's never even been invited to World's Strongest Man.

01:58:00.000 So it's bullshit.

01:58:01.000 Yeah, I mean, you can say a lot of things.

01:58:03.000 Like, this guy, say he broke a record in some powerlifting competition that was in a guy's backyard, right?

01:58:11.000 And they call that a world record.

01:58:13.000 And then all of a sudden, now he's a world record strength athlete because his buddy in his backyard said so.

01:58:19.000 A lot of that happens.

01:58:20.000 I don't know specifically about him.

01:58:21.000 I have no clue where he's getting his credentials from.

01:58:26.000 He eats one meal a day.

01:58:27.000 See, this is ridiculous.

01:58:29.000 One meal a day and vegan...

01:58:31.000 Vegan professional powerlifter, 2013, set the deadlift world record for his weight class.

01:58:38.000 Oh, so he's 672 pounds.

01:58:41.000 For how much does he weigh, though?

01:58:43.000 672 isn't even big for guys that are like 115 pounds.

01:58:46.000 Well, he's only 5'7".

01:58:47.000 Okay.

01:58:48.000 So he's smaller than me.

01:58:49.000 So they're talking about powerlifting, too.

01:58:51.000 So once you get into powerlifting, there's so many little federations and stuff.

01:58:56.000 Everybody and their mother has world records and just this and that.

01:58:59.000 Yeah.

01:59:00.000 So this documentary is touting, because that's why I was confused, like, all the strongmen that I've seen are giants.

01:59:06.000 Right, right.

01:59:07.000 Like, how can a 5'7 guy compete?

01:59:10.000 I've never seen him anywhere on the circuit or anywhere at a big show.

01:59:14.000 And there is a circuit, like a confirmed circuit with guys like you, Brian Shaw.

01:59:19.000 Yeah, we have giants.

01:59:20.000 Eddie Hall and Nick Best.

01:59:21.000 Huge, giant humans.

01:59:23.000 Yeah.

01:59:23.000 We have Giants Live.

01:59:25.000 Giants Live is the qualifying tour for World's Strongest Man.

01:59:28.000 So, to get to Giants Live, there's like a bunch of little federations that you could possibly do well in and they'll invite you.

01:59:34.000 Or, you know, like...

01:59:37.000 Getting invited is kind of like the only tricky thing, getting in.

01:59:41.000 But once you get there, if you prove yourself, you get top three, or if, like, say you go to my first Giants Live I went to, it was, like, stacked.

01:59:50.000 Like, it was ten of the strongest men on the planet, and normally Giants Live has, like, Yeah.

02:00:11.000 So, normally, you have to go to a Giants Live, prove yourself there, and then you get invited to World's Strongest Man.

02:00:17.000 Sometimes, like, we've had years where World's Strongest Man got pushed and was filmed early, so they had to invite other guys, but you can...

02:00:26.000 You can always tell who's strong.

02:00:28.000 Like, you can see when a guy shows up and he's ready to go, or if he's just got show muscles, or if he's just a big chubby dude, you know?

02:00:37.000 And it's, I mean, you strap a guy to a truck and tell him to pull it 30 meters, you're gonna figure that shit out real quick, you know?

02:00:45.000 Yeah, I can only imagine.

02:00:47.000 It's a shit show for some people.

02:00:49.000 Well, because the James Cameron thing, they're pulling this guy out as if he's some world record powerlifter, strongman guy.

02:00:57.000 He probably has a world record.

02:00:59.000 He probably has some type of world record.

02:01:01.000 I've seen him, because I've posted videos talking about my meals and stuff before, and a lot of people give me that, like, this guy does this, and he's vegan.

02:01:09.000 I mean, if the biggest pull he's ever pulled is 627, then that wouldn't even...

02:01:17.000 That would get last place at an amateur heavyweight show in America.

02:01:22.000 Also, the other thing is, in America, we have the strongest men in the world, too.

02:01:26.000 It's weird.

02:01:27.000 In America, we have these...

02:01:30.000 People have this love for other countries.

02:01:33.000 Everyone wants to be like, well, here in Iceland, they're really strong.

02:01:36.000 Or, oh, in Poland, they're this.

02:01:38.000 And it's like, motherfucker, we're strong here.

02:01:40.000 We're fucking strong.

02:01:42.000 If you're an American, getting in the world is the hardest way to get in.

02:01:46.000 If you go to another country, it's much easier.

02:01:48.000 Much easier.

02:01:49.000 Because here, we've got, out of the top ten, we've probably got four or five guys.

02:01:55.000 We're good to go.

02:02:18.000 We bang out here.

02:02:19.000 I believe you.

02:02:20.000 Yes, sir.

02:02:21.000 What about the mountain?

02:02:22.000 The guy from the game?

02:02:22.000 The mountain from Iceland?

02:02:23.000 Yeah.

02:02:24.000 He's legit, right?

02:02:24.000 He's a savage.

02:02:25.000 He won last year.

02:02:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:02:26.000 Yeah.

02:02:26.000 He's no joke, man.

02:02:28.000 He's strong.

02:02:28.000 How do you say his name?

02:02:30.000 Hafthor Julius Bjornsson.

02:02:32.000 Just call him Thor.

02:02:34.000 Say it again?

02:02:35.000 Half Thor Julius Bjornsson.

02:02:36.000 Half Thor Julius Bronsson.

02:02:39.000 Bjornsson.

02:02:40.000 Yeah.

02:02:41.000 He's a savage.

02:02:42.000 He's strong and he's definitely legit.

02:02:45.000 No joke.

02:02:47.000 He's good.

02:02:47.000 He got third place this year.

02:02:49.000 He's...

02:02:51.000 Isn't he fighting off Bell's palsy or something like that?

02:02:54.000 He had Bell's palsy a couple years ago.

02:02:58.000 I think he's almost all the way better.

02:03:02.000 Not to be rude, but his face always had a little bit of a...

02:03:05.000 I've got these huge, fat, chubby cheeks, so I'm allowed to talk shit, I guess.

02:03:09.000 But he had that look on his face a little bit already.

02:03:13.000 I'm pretty sure he's probably at least 99% done.

02:03:19.000 What causes that shit?

02:03:20.000 A lot of times it's stress.

02:03:22.000 It can be an infection.

02:03:24.000 I'm not a doctor.

02:03:26.000 You're not a doctor?

02:03:27.000 At the moment.

02:03:28.000 I'm working on getting my license.

02:03:32.000 What the fuck is this guy here for?

02:03:34.000 This fucking guy.

02:03:37.000 So, all of you basically, you're saying eat the same thing.

02:03:40.000 It's just meat and rice, basically?

02:03:42.000 Meat and rice, potatoes.

02:03:43.000 What kind of meat?

02:03:45.000 A lot of times it's bison.

02:03:48.000 That sounds strong.

02:03:50.000 I fucking love elk.

02:03:50.000 Yeah.

02:03:51.000 I love bison, too.

02:03:52.000 I love elk.

02:03:53.000 How long are you in town for?

02:03:55.000 Two more days?

02:03:56.000 You got somewhere you can cook?

02:03:58.000 I got a lot of elk for you, bro.

02:03:58.000 Yeah?

02:03:59.000 Oh my god, I love you.

02:04:00.000 Elk's my favorite.

02:04:02.000 I have commercial freezers in the back.

02:04:03.000 Nice.

02:04:04.000 I shot two last year.

02:04:05.000 Really?

02:04:05.000 Yeah, I tried to give it out to as many people as I can.

02:04:07.000 Nice.

02:04:07.000 Where'd you go?

02:04:08.000 One of them in Utah and one of them in Central California.

02:04:12.000 Nice.

02:04:13.000 Nice.

02:04:14.000 Nice.

02:04:15.000 In Oregon, they got a ton of elk hunting.

02:04:17.000 Sure.

02:04:17.000 It was Roosevelt elk in Oregon.

02:04:20.000 They're bigger bodied, too.

02:04:21.000 It's a big animal.

02:04:23.000 It's the best meat.

02:04:24.000 It is.

02:04:25.000 In my opinion, the best meat there is is elk, by far.

02:04:29.000 Yeah.

02:04:29.000 It's my favorite.

02:04:30.000 So good for you, too.

02:04:31.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 It tastes so damn good, too.

02:04:34.000 I've never had elk that I didn't like.

02:04:36.000 Even if the guy cooking it sucked, it still came out good, you Yeah, it's a crazy taste, right?

02:04:40.000 It's like people that think that venison is gamey.

02:04:43.000 First of all, just because someone hasn't prepared it correctly and they didn't take care of it after they killed it.

02:04:48.000 But two, it's like, not elk.

02:04:49.000 No, no.

02:04:50.000 That shit is always good.

02:04:51.000 You can have an old bull, like a fucking 10-year-old bull who's been rutting and stabbing other elk with his head and still tastes delicious when you cook it.

02:05:00.000 It's fucking amazing.

02:05:01.000 It's the best.

02:05:01.000 It's the reason why wolves are chasing those motherfuckers.

02:05:03.000 Exactly.

02:05:04.000 It's delicious.

02:05:04.000 They don't know what's going on.

02:05:06.000 So, how many times do you eat a day?

02:05:09.000 So, right now, it's usually about five, but right now, my five meals are smaller.

02:05:15.000 Like, when we're going into Worlds, like the last two months, I'm eating those five meals and then anything else, everything else.

02:05:23.000 Just going crazy.

02:05:24.000 Everything I possibly can.

02:05:26.000 I try and keep it clean, but you just want it all.

02:05:29.000 You want everything.

02:05:30.000 When you're in a competition, how many days is a World's Strongest Man competition?

02:05:35.000 World's Strongest Man is normally two or three weeks.

02:05:38.000 Two or three weeks.

02:05:39.000 It's fucking savage.

02:05:40.000 It's so brutal.

02:05:41.000 So are you working out at all while that's going on, or are you just doing the events?

02:05:44.000 You're doing the event, and then you immediately try and find some place cold.

02:05:48.000 Because normally, Worlds is in some exotic location that we're selling tourism to.

02:05:53.000 So it's like Malaysia, Africa.

02:05:56.000 We were in Florida this year.

02:05:57.000 It's always some hot, humid place.

02:05:59.000 So they're trying to get people to come to see it.

02:06:01.000 Right.

02:06:01.000 A lot of it's a tourism ad.

02:06:03.000 Yeah.

02:06:04.000 It's always beautiful background, right?

02:06:06.000 Beautiful background.

02:06:07.000 Fucking hell on us, you know?

02:06:09.000 It's brutal.

02:06:10.000 Yeah.

02:06:10.000 But I mean, it's part of what pays for everything.

02:06:13.000 And none of us really, we all know to expect it's going to be hot and humid.

02:06:17.000 We just, you know, now, myself, this is the first time I've had people come with me.

02:06:22.000 Like, every time I've been to Worlds before, it was just me and my gym bag.

02:06:26.000 And I'm just ready to bang, you know?

02:06:28.000 But now, I have to, for some reason, I kept thinking of the sock on the cock thing when I said that.

02:06:34.000 I need a bang!

02:06:36.000 I got a question for your gear!

02:06:39.000 So, but now, this year, and every year forward from now on, I had my crew, like, my girl was with me, and two of the guys I train with, and they basically...

02:06:50.000 So we'll be in our tent and like 400 yards away is them lifting and if I want to know who's doing what or what position they're in or like I'm competing in a group of five I need to know how many points this guy just scored what this guy has like I need to know all that before I would have to walk out there hot and humid find out that come back and be moving back and forth doing all that stuff if I wanted to get food Anything.

02:07:13.000 It's just a ton of extra stress.

02:07:15.000 This year, like, they literally wouldn't even let me bend over to tie my own shoes.

02:07:19.000 Like, they put them on me and had me set.

02:07:22.000 And I was fucking strong as shit, Joe.

02:07:24.000 I'm telling you.

02:07:25.000 Because of that?

02:07:26.000 Everything.

02:07:26.000 Like, the work, too.

02:07:27.000 Like, I really thank Brian, Nick, and Ed for how strong I was this year.

02:07:31.000 Like, just training with them.

02:07:33.000 And then, you know, when you're with somebody, like, you compete.

02:07:37.000 If you and I were walking to the door, I'd try and get there faster, you know?

02:07:41.000 It's just the way it is.

02:07:43.000 Right, right, right.

02:07:43.000 So doing that for the entire year going into Worlds, I showed up and I've been going chest to chest with the strong, in my opinion, Brian Shaw is the strongest man who ever lived.

02:07:53.000 And so I've been going chest to chest with this dude all year.

02:07:57.000 You 30 other dudes ain't shit.

02:07:59.000 I'm here to take your money.

02:08:00.000 Right, right, right.

02:08:01.000 I love it.

02:08:02.000 I felt great.

02:08:03.000 And having them help me and stuff, it all added up to me feeling the best I've ever felt.

02:08:08.000 Do you do a lot of ice baths?

02:08:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:08:11.000 I didn't before because I was basically just pussing out and just didn't want to.

02:08:16.000 But you have to.

02:08:18.000 If you're training with these guys, you have to.

02:08:20.000 They're not going to let you slide.

02:08:21.000 It's like that coach that's just like, yo, you don't want to.

02:08:24.000 Okay, well.

02:08:26.000 Twice as long for you.

02:08:27.000 When do you do the ice bath?

02:08:29.000 Because I was reading something, I think it was Andy Galpin had a study that he put up about hypertrophy and how it's affected by ice baths.

02:08:41.000 And that there's a certain amount of time after lifting, you should wait before you get in an ice bath.

02:08:45.000 Yeah, we've all known that for a while.

02:08:47.000 I didn't know that that was new information because a lot of people are just now finding out.

02:08:51.000 The way your body reacts after a workout, like the pain, the inflammation, all that stuff, you're supposed to allow that.

02:08:58.000 For how long?

02:08:59.000 For us, it's like we'll train normally.

02:09:02.000 It depends on filming because we work 13-hour days on top of that.

02:09:07.000 And you know, filming is fucking exhausting.

02:09:09.000 It's like, you did that perfect.

02:09:10.000 Do it three more times.

02:09:12.000 That shit's so crazy.

02:09:16.000 If we train in the morning, we would wait to ice pass to the end of the day.

02:09:20.000 But if we trained immediately after set, like we got off set, we went and trained, so it would be like 6 or 7 at night, we'd come back, we'd eat, and we'd like conversate, take our time, and then we would go just before bed.

02:09:36.000 So it's like, I think minimum we would do like two hours or so.

02:09:42.000 And I know maybe that's too long.

02:09:44.000 Maybe, but for us, that's usually just, that's our routine.

02:09:49.000 We don't want to avoid that stuff because that's kind of your body learning how to deal with that.

02:09:53.000 Yeah, I think what they were studying was the difference between someone who did it immediately after a workout or someone who waited an hour.

02:09:59.000 And the waiting an hour was beneficial to muscle growth.

02:10:03.000 Right.

02:10:03.000 And it's the same thing when you see people popping ibuprofen after workouts and stuff.

02:10:08.000 It's like, bro, you're supposed to feel that.

02:10:10.000 You're supposed to feel that shit.

02:10:12.000 Yeah, it's part of the whole thing.

02:10:14.000 Now, when you're eating these five meals a day, do you have a meal prep person that sets it up so you have the right amount of calories and nutrients and Yeah.

02:10:23.000 You're doing it like that?

02:10:24.000 I don't have to worry about that too much.

02:10:26.000 When we're on set, we have caterers and stuff, so it's super easy.

02:10:30.000 And do the caterers give you bison and rice and shit like that?

02:10:33.000 Always.

02:10:33.000 Everything you need?

02:10:34.000 Everything we need.

02:10:35.000 Nice.

02:10:35.000 It's nice.

02:10:35.000 So when it's that, it's that easy.

02:10:38.000 But when I get home, you get used to that too.

02:10:41.000 So you go home and you try and eat some shitty meat after like three straight weeks of clean food.

02:10:46.000 Your body's like, what are you doing, bro?

02:10:48.000 Enjoy these farts.

02:10:49.000 Exactly.

02:10:50.000 Exactly.

02:10:51.000 Run my girl out of the house.

02:10:53.000 They'll get bad.

02:10:54.000 What do you drink?

02:10:56.000 Do you drink just water?

02:10:57.000 Straight water.

02:10:59.000 I switch to those.

02:11:01.000 When we're doing humid shit, like we're in humid areas.

02:11:04.000 Like a liquid IV? We did those.

02:11:06.000 We did those.

02:11:07.000 And I got off of Gatorade and switched to those body armors.

02:11:11.000 Body armors is less sugar.

02:11:14.000 It's way better.

02:11:15.000 More electrolytes.

02:11:17.000 I only do those when we're actually training and it's humid.

02:11:21.000 I try the best I can to keep myself from...

02:11:25.000 Like, allowing that type of stuff, unless it's competition.

02:11:28.000 So, like, when it's competition, take the fucking ibuprofen, drink the body armor, all that shit.

02:11:33.000 Like, this is the moment you worked for.

02:11:36.000 Like, you want it to be as smooth as possible now.

02:11:38.000 But when you're leading up into that, it's water.

02:11:42.000 When I'm really tired of my diet, like, every once in a while, it'll be a Coke Zero, which, I'm telling you, it saves me.

02:11:50.000 I don't get to eat In-N-Out, but I'll have this Coke Sarah.

02:11:53.000 It'll be okay.

02:11:54.000 Can In-N-Out fuck with you?

02:11:56.000 No.

02:11:57.000 In-N-Out's amazing.

02:11:58.000 It's God's gift to us.

02:12:00.000 How can that be bad?

02:12:01.000 This is for everyone in Texas.

02:12:03.000 I'm so sorry, but In-N-Out is a million times better than whatever.

02:12:07.000 They're in Dallas now.

02:12:07.000 No, they're in Dallas.

02:12:08.000 They're in Austin.

02:12:09.000 They're in New Braunfels.

02:12:10.000 Yeah, those Whataburger people, they're drinking the Kool-Aid.

02:12:12.000 It's wrong.

02:12:13.000 You're out of your fucking mind.

02:12:14.000 If you're comparing Whataburger, you've got to compare it to McDonald's, to Burger King.

02:12:18.000 Oh, it's better than that.

02:12:19.000 In-N-Out's a different show.

02:12:20.000 This is a different ticket.

02:12:21.000 The only people that fuck with In-N-Out is Five Guys.

02:12:24.000 Okay, Five Guys.

02:12:25.000 But if you go to Austin, and where Onnit is, if you go out there, there's this place called P. Terry's.

02:12:30.000 There's only three or four of them, and they're only in that area.

02:12:34.000 I'm telling you, they crush everybody.

02:12:36.000 Really?

02:12:37.000 P. Terry's?

02:12:38.000 P. Terry's.

02:12:39.000 Is it just the letter P? Like Terry Crews?

02:12:42.000 T-E-R-Y apostrophe S. Really?

02:12:44.000 And I'm telling you, this is not a sponsored ad.

02:12:47.000 They are the fucking shit.

02:12:48.000 And their fries, In-N-Out's fries are okay.

02:12:51.000 They're not the best.

02:12:52.000 Five guys have better fries.

02:12:53.000 Way better.

02:12:54.000 And they have Cajun fries.

02:12:55.000 And they have better burger choices, too.

02:12:57.000 Five Guys, you can get weird jalapenos.

02:12:59.000 Bacon.

02:13:00.000 Exactly.

02:13:00.000 They have shakes.

02:13:01.000 Right.

02:13:02.000 Well, they don't have shakes.

02:13:03.000 In-N-Out's got pretty good shakes, too.

02:13:03.000 Oh, they do have shakes.

02:13:05.000 Five Guys didn't have shakes for a while.

02:13:05.000 Yeah.

02:13:07.000 Now they have shakes at some places.

02:13:08.000 But they win with the jalapenos.

02:13:11.000 Jalapenos and bacon.

02:13:11.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:12.000 Yeah.

02:13:12.000 The game's over.

02:13:13.000 More options.

02:13:13.000 Yeah.

02:13:14.000 You can't fuck with that.

02:13:15.000 Better buns, too.

02:13:16.000 Way better buns.

02:13:16.000 Yeah.

02:13:17.000 But when you go to Austin, you got to try Pete Terry's.

02:13:17.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:13:19.000 I'm fucking hungry now, man.

02:13:21.000 What have you done?

02:13:23.000 We left Evil Live 2 last night in a limo, and I was like, we've been here for nine hours.

02:13:28.000 We're stopping at In-N-Out.

02:13:29.000 The guy was like, you've never had In-N-Out?

02:13:31.000 I was like, no, I've had it.

02:13:33.000 We're just stopping there.

02:13:34.000 Look at that.

02:13:34.000 Damn.

02:13:35.000 Pete Terry's.

02:13:36.000 Bang for your burger.

02:13:38.000 That does look goddamn good.

02:13:41.000 That looks so good.

02:13:43.000 And they're only in that area, too, man.

02:13:45.000 Really?

02:13:46.000 They need to branch the fuck out.

02:13:47.000 That looks fantastic.

02:13:48.000 Yeah.

02:13:49.000 Woo!

02:13:50.000 Next time you're there, for sure.

02:13:50.000 Man.

02:13:51.000 Yeah, I'm in.

02:13:52.000 So, what about supplements?

02:13:54.000 Like vitamins?

02:13:55.000 Yeah.

02:13:56.000 I actually...

02:13:56.000 Minerals?

02:13:57.000 Protein is something I definitely stick to, and I do pre-workouts, depending on what mood I'm in.

02:14:04.000 What kind of protein powder are you using?

02:14:06.000 I'm spoiled.

02:14:07.000 I do the RTDs, like the ready-to-drinks.

02:14:09.000 Oh, nice.

02:14:10.000 I'll get those cases at Costco, man.

02:14:12.000 Costco's always got great deals, but...

02:14:14.000 I like to basically use whatever is easy on my stomach.

02:14:18.000 Do you like whey?

02:14:19.000 Do you like pea protein?

02:14:20.000 Hemp?

02:14:21.000 What do you like?

02:14:21.000 I've had pea.

02:14:23.000 It tasted kind of funny.

02:14:23.000 Pea was okay.

02:14:25.000 It's real weird.

02:14:26.000 Hemp's nice.

02:14:26.000 Hemp's always nice.

02:14:27.000 And if you can...

02:14:28.000 For me, it's just nice to go back to that.

02:14:32.000 Have we ever sent you any of the Onnit stuff?

02:14:33.000 No.

02:14:34.000 Onnit?

02:14:34.000 Shit, I wish I had some here.

02:14:36.000 I'll give you some.

02:14:36.000 No.

02:14:37.000 Do we have any Onnit?

02:14:38.000 Hemp?

02:14:39.000 Fuck.

02:14:40.000 Maybe.

02:14:41.000 We'll see.

02:14:41.000 It's always nice.

02:14:42.000 I'll get it sent to you, man.

02:14:43.000 It's always nice to go back to the hemp.

02:14:43.000 Whatever you need.

02:14:45.000 Like, for anything.

02:14:47.000 Like, if you're doing clothes or anything like that.

02:14:49.000 It's so easy to digest, too.

02:14:49.000 It's just...

02:14:51.000 Hemp protein just, like, goes...

02:14:51.000 Right.

02:14:53.000 No problem.

02:14:54.000 Nice.

02:14:54.000 Yeah, it's my favorite.

02:14:56.000 And then so I'll do...

02:14:56.000 Yeah.

02:14:58.000 I do pre's and stuff like that.

02:14:59.000 I actually work with a company called Nanoseutical Solutions that does...

02:15:03.000 Do vitamins.

02:15:04.000 And it's basically...

02:15:06.000 I'm going to fuck this all up.

02:15:07.000 Concussions.

02:15:08.000 Don't...

02:15:09.000 Don't fucking...

02:15:10.000 Don't email me telling me I fucked this up.

02:15:12.000 I'm telling you right now I fucked this up.

02:15:14.000 Okay?

02:15:15.000 Goddamn.

02:15:15.000 Email Joe.

02:15:16.000 Okay?

02:15:16.000 Email Joe.

02:15:17.000 That's why.

02:15:18.000 So Nanoseutical Solutions...

02:15:21.000 They take basically your normal vitamins and they break them down into a smaller bit.

02:15:26.000 Like normally, the smallest way you can...

02:15:30.000 It's called bio, like the way your body ingests it.

02:15:33.000 It's called bioavailability.

02:15:34.000 There you go.

02:15:35.000 Thank you.

02:15:36.000 That was going to bug me.

02:15:37.000 So for your body to actually accept it, like the lowest we've gotten is to, I think, micrograms or something like that.

02:15:46.000 And this guy out of San Antonio, he broke it down into nanograms.

02:15:51.000 And he's been working with me.

02:15:52.000 I think I'm the only athlete he works with.

02:15:54.000 He's a small company.

02:15:57.000 Yeah.

02:16:17.000 Dude, I'm telling you.

02:16:18.000 The B12 was just like getting a B12 shot.

02:16:21.000 What's the name of this company?

02:16:22.000 Nanoseutical Solutions.

02:16:24.000 Nanoseutical Solutions.

02:16:25.000 There we go.

02:16:26.000 James got it.

02:16:27.000 Proprietary manufacturing process allows for the molecular dispersion without excessive heat or breaking of the chemical bonds.

02:16:33.000 This allows the vitamins and supplements to remain unchanged and undamaged when they are absorbed in your body.

02:16:40.000 Fucking, I'm in.

02:16:41.000 That's exactly what I said, right?

02:16:43.000 Yes, exactly.

02:16:43.000 Didn't I say that?

02:16:44.000 Methyl B12, melatonin, glutathione.

02:16:44.000 Exactly.

02:16:48.000 Glutathione's the shit.

02:16:49.000 The shit.

02:16:50.000 Nobody knows about it.

02:16:51.000 Turmeric and curcumin.

02:16:52.000 I just found out that turmeric has an R in it.

02:16:54.000 I learned it this year.

02:16:54.000 Yeah.

02:16:55.000 I learned that from you.

02:16:59.000 I was like, I thought it was turmeric.

02:17:01.000 God damn it.

02:17:01.000 We're so stupid.

02:17:03.000 We are reptiles.

02:17:04.000 For sure.

02:17:05.000 You and I, for sure.

02:17:06.000 So I do that.

02:17:07.000 Thank God, small people out there making vitamins that are nanograms.

02:17:10.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:17:11.000 So I just try and eat clean and that kind of stuff, you know?

02:17:17.000 We can always tell when our body's acting a little weird or funny.

02:17:21.000 And you can just backtrack a little bit and you're like, oh, I've been doing this a little different.

02:17:26.000 I've had beer fucking six nights in a row, just chill out, that kind of shit.

02:17:32.000 So most of the time it's self-regulation.

02:17:34.000 Now, you said that they drug test you guys.

02:17:37.000 What are they testing for?

02:17:38.000 They test for everything.

02:17:39.000 When we get drug tested at World's Strongest Men, it's for everything.

02:17:43.000 Steroids.

02:17:44.000 For steroids.

02:17:45.000 Everybody has to be on steroids.

02:17:47.000 No?

02:17:48.000 I don't know what to tell you.

02:17:50.000 There's one test a year.

02:17:52.000 Right.

02:17:53.000 So you have to pass that test.

02:17:54.000 You have to pass that test and they can test you randomly too.

02:17:58.000 The randomly thing, from my experience, the random thing only happens if you're acting like you're on amphetamines.

02:17:58.000 Randomly?

02:18:06.000 If you're acting like you're on amphetamines, they're going to test you.

02:18:09.000 And there's been guys who pop for amphetamines after they randomly tested them.

02:18:13.000 If you're trying to put a sock on your cock!

02:18:15.000 Exactly.

02:18:15.000 If you're screaming at somebody about cock and sock and all that, you're going to get drug tested.

02:18:21.000 Oh, so that's what...

02:18:23.000 I would imagine that they would worry about that when it comes to lifting, right?

02:18:25.000 Most definitely.

02:18:26.000 You don't want somebody to die on air.

02:18:28.000 Right.

02:18:28.000 You know, you can't have that.

02:18:29.000 And we're, like, pulling that truck, I'm telling you, they stopped using the heart meters because people were losing their fucking mind, seeing that their hearts were so high.

02:18:37.000 It was like 240 a minute.

02:18:39.000 What?

02:18:39.000 Something like maybe 230. Yeah.

02:18:42.000 I didn't even know you could get that high.

02:18:42.000 It's insane.

02:18:43.000 That's what everybody else said, so they pulled the fucking meters.

02:18:46.000 Yeah.

02:18:48.000 That's hilarious!

02:18:49.000 Oh my god, dude.

02:18:51.000 That's like a jackrabbit.

02:18:52.000 Crazy, huh?

02:18:53.000 Wow.

02:18:54.000 2.40 a minute?

02:18:55.000 Fucking A. Has anybody pissed hot for steroids?

02:19:00.000 I believe one person got busted.

02:19:04.000 I would imagine.

02:19:04.000 I don't want to say his name because I don't know if it was for steroids or for meth.

02:19:09.000 Meth.

02:19:10.000 What did I say?

02:19:11.000 Amphetamines.

02:19:12.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

02:19:13.000 But I mean, I feel like for steroids, I mean, I don't want to...

02:19:17.000 Push it, but it seems like you'd have to be.

02:19:19.000 I mean, it's a sport where it's built for bigger men, but, I mean, there's a lot of guys who've gone through and been very adamant that they're not, and, you know, we get tested.

02:19:30.000 Literally, like, every year I have to explain to the guy, like, yes, there's going to be marijuana in my system, and that's in the rules that it says it's okay.

02:19:38.000 Like, I have that conversation every year.

02:19:40.000 And it used to be illegal.

02:19:42.000 Used to be illegal, and we got a switch, I believe, 14?

02:19:46.000 Did you help getting switched?

02:19:47.000 I brought it up a lot.

02:19:49.000 I don't know if that really changed anything.

02:19:51.000 But I was like, look at these fucking gorillas.

02:19:53.000 You want everyone here on Vicodin?

02:19:55.000 I literally...

02:19:57.000 All I'm saying is we should be able to smoke weed.

02:20:00.000 I'm not saying that you guys should be able to do meth or any of that other shit.

02:20:04.000 Well, I think we're finally recognizing, finally, as a culture, that weed is not what everybody thought it was when they were in the 50s and the 30s.

02:20:04.000 None of that.

02:20:12.000 Thank God.

02:20:13.000 Because, I mean, people were doing so much worse shit.

02:20:13.000 Thank God.

02:20:16.000 Well, that's why that little Jeff Sessions cunt was driving me fucking crazy when he was the attorney general and he was saying, good people don't smoke marijuana.

02:20:25.000 You're not hanging around with good people, first of all, because good people don't want to hang out with you.

02:20:28.000 Exactly.

02:20:29.000 So you don't know what you're talking about.

02:20:30.000 And wasn't it Hillary that was saying she was going to do her best to keep it illegal?

02:20:34.000 Yeah, she had some nonsense that she was saying too.

02:20:37.000 That was, I don't know, she'd be fucking, who knows.

02:20:41.000 That's crazy.

02:20:41.000 If I was you, and just being honest on this show would scare the living fuck out of me.

02:20:47.000 Because so many people listen, I'd just be worried that sooner or later, like, you know, somebody just show up.

02:20:53.000 Hillary just shows up.

02:20:55.000 Just show up?

02:20:56.000 One of the kings they carry you with the poles on the shoulders.

02:21:00.000 This big dude, she just comes and hops out.

02:21:03.000 Moves the veil and peeks.

02:21:05.000 Yes, that is the one.

02:21:06.000 Did you see that video I put on my Instagram of that dude who made that?

02:21:10.000 Trump?

02:21:10.000 Oh, that was badass.

02:21:11.000 That Trump robot with the Hillary head inside the body.

02:21:13.000 That was so badass.

02:21:14.000 Who is that guy?

02:21:15.000 Let's give that guy some props because that fucking animation is amazing.

02:21:19.000 Put it up on the big screen.

02:21:22.000 It's like one of those things where you're like, how does this guy even think of this?

02:21:25.000 And where is he buying his weed?

02:21:28.000 Because this is not something that a regular person thinks of.

02:21:32.000 This is his name.

02:21:33.000 Beeplecrap?

02:21:34.000 B-E-E-P-L-E underscore C-R-A-P. And he's got this video of this Trump robot with glowing eyes and one artificial leg moving and the entire body of the Trump robot is Hillary's giant head floating around in a vat of liquid.

02:21:54.000 Like a war-torn United States, I'm guessing.

02:21:57.000 Soldiers marching with him.

02:21:58.000 Yeah, it's some apocalyptic, post-apocalyptic scenario, but there's all these lights and it's fucking amazing.

02:22:05.000 It's so dope.

02:22:06.000 And Trump's body is weird and his feet are like baby feet.

02:22:10.000 Yeah.

02:22:10.000 Yeah, in his hands.

02:22:11.000 They do their best to just fuck with that.

02:22:15.000 I know.

02:22:16.000 Because it bothers him.

02:22:16.000 He should have never acted like it bothered him.

02:22:18.000 Did he act like it bothered him?

02:22:19.000 I think he said something about these big hands after they'd said it.

02:22:23.000 I don't know.

02:22:23.000 That's hilarious.

02:22:24.000 That's the thing.

02:22:25.000 Every dude knows.

02:22:27.000 If a guy flinches when you say some shit, you say some more of that shit.

02:22:30.000 Exactly.

02:22:31.000 That's what you do.

02:22:32.000 Exactly.

02:22:32.000 You're not supposed to flinch.

02:22:34.000 But they're the ones who say you don't body shame.

02:22:36.000 Meanwhile, they're body shaming this poor guy for having little...

02:22:39.000 He doesn't even have little hands.

02:22:40.000 He's got normal hands.

02:22:41.000 Rules don't exist anymore, man.

02:22:43.000 The same artist made this thing, too, which is like the opposite of what you're talking about.

02:22:47.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

02:22:48.000 It's like a gorilla.

02:22:49.000 Yeah.

02:22:50.000 If I was Trump, I would hire a trainer and just get on the best juice.

02:22:53.000 Dude, if I had abs like that, I'd never wear a shirt.

02:22:55.000 I'd go to funerals without a shirt on.

02:22:57.000 Sorry, bro, you're dead, but I'm jacked in town with you.

02:22:57.000 Yeah.

02:23:00.000 Put a sock on your cock!

02:23:03.000 I don't think Trump has little hands.

02:23:07.000 They're regular hands, but it is a constant theme.

02:23:10.000 But that thing, that Beeple crap guy, is that what you say his name?

02:23:14.000 Beeple underscore crap?

02:23:16.000 He's amazing.

02:23:17.000 He's got some great shit on his page too.

02:23:18.000 That's really cool.

02:23:20.000 God damn, look at that.

02:23:21.000 A giant Kim Jong-un robot.

02:23:23.000 What a weird dude.

02:23:24.000 Wasn't Trump just in North Korea right now?

02:23:26.000 Partying with that dude.

02:23:27.000 They probably killed somebody together.

02:23:29.000 I wonder if it was like the interview where he let him drive the tank and they were listening to Miley Cyrus.

02:23:34.000 Was it Miley Cyrus?

02:23:35.000 What was it?

02:23:37.000 I don't remember.

02:23:38.000 He was listening to...

02:23:38.000 It wasn't Miley Cyrus.

02:23:39.000 In the movie The Interview.

02:23:40.000 Oh, yeah.

02:23:42.000 They were driving around.

02:23:43.000 It was...

02:23:46.000 I don't remember.

02:23:47.000 That was the Seth Rogen movie.

02:23:47.000 Yeah.

02:23:49.000 Yeah.

02:23:49.000 Hilarious movie, by the way.

02:23:51.000 I never saw that movie.

02:23:52.000 Oh, you gotta see that shit.

02:23:54.000 It's fucking great.

02:23:56.000 No, you gotta see that one.

02:23:57.000 That's good.

02:23:58.000 That movie, like, vanished.

02:23:59.000 Like, I forgot about it.

02:24:00.000 Huh.

02:24:01.000 Like, until you just brought it up, I was like, oh, yeah.

02:24:03.000 I think it's on Netflix.

02:24:04.000 I'm sure it is.

02:24:05.000 Yeah.

02:24:06.000 All those, like, from Superbad got me, like, I was in love.

02:24:10.000 Superbad's hilarious.

02:24:11.000 You want to be good at sex when you go to college.

02:24:14.000 You don't want to be sucking dick at fucking pussy.

02:24:16.000 Ha ha ha!

02:24:17.000 That's so good!

02:24:18.000 Who wrote that shit?

02:24:19.000 Tell me who wrote that so I can say thank you.

02:24:21.000 I don't know, man.

02:24:22.000 But the scene where he's just drawing dicks?

02:24:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:24:26.000 Yeah.

02:24:27.000 It's so ridiculous.

02:24:28.000 It's so crazy.

02:24:29.000 I love movies like that.

02:24:31.000 Yeah.

02:24:31.000 Just preposterous shit.

02:24:33.000 Yeah.

02:24:33.000 Just, like, relaxed humor.

02:24:35.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:24:36.000 Like, he didn't care if it bothered somebody.

02:24:38.000 He wasn't trying to be a dick, but he was funny.

02:24:38.000 No.

02:24:41.000 Well, what's interesting is that was quite a few years ago.

02:24:43.000 I wonder if they would even do that movie that way today.

02:24:46.000 Phew.

02:24:46.000 That's interesting.

02:24:47.000 I mean, that movie was like 2013 or some shit.

02:24:49.000 There's a movie coming out about three younger kids than the Superbad movie, and it's rated R, and it seems like it's right along that same vein of humor and comedy and whatnot.

02:24:59.000 I forget what it's called.

02:24:59.000 Thank God.

02:25:00.000 We need more of that.

02:25:01.000 Yeah, it's like...

02:25:02.000 The backlash is stronger now than ever before, but also the appreciation of it is stronger now than ever before, too, because people are so tired of people being so politically correct and so upset about everything.

02:25:13.000 No one's telling you to be an asshole, but people are jumping on things that aren't even bad.

02:25:20.000 Right.

02:25:21.000 It's like I'm actually a little nervous about telling athletes that they should smoke weed now.

02:25:27.000 That's nerve-wracking because you're dependent on your boss and the places you work and the things you do, right?

02:25:34.000 So just saying something like that, if two people find that offensive and they raise enough hell, that's a big fucking deal.

02:25:40.000 But what we're just saying is it's better than Vicodin.

02:25:44.000 It's better than pills.

02:25:44.000 Yeah.

02:25:45.000 It's a very much healthier alternative.

02:25:50.000 Well, you know what it is, man?

02:25:52.000 It's like you can abuse tools, but you could also use them correctly.

02:25:52.000 It's a tool.

02:25:57.000 I mean, you don't want to fucking hammer nails with a saw, right?

02:26:01.000 But if you use marijuana correctly and you have discipline and you know what you're doing...

02:26:08.000 The problem is that it's been illegal for so long.

02:26:10.000 People don't understand what the best way to use it for is and what are the side effects.

02:26:15.000 What's the paranoia?

02:26:18.000 What's this heightened sense of awareness that kind of freaks people out?

02:26:21.000 How do you mitigate that?

02:26:23.000 How do you get over it?

02:26:24.000 What's the right dosage?

02:26:25.000 All that stuff is dependent upon information.

02:26:28.000 When people are lying to you about it being terrible and You know, making you fucking blind and losing your marbles.

02:26:36.000 Right.

02:26:37.000 You're going to kill people and all that stuff.

02:26:39.000 People are so confused about it that it also makes you more paranoid because as you're smoking it, you're thinking, oh my god, I shouldn't be doing this.

02:26:45.000 What am I doing?

02:26:45.000 Right.

02:26:45.000 I'm ruining my life.

02:26:46.000 I can't believe I'm doing that.

02:26:47.000 And then you get even more paranoid.

02:26:48.000 And then you're like, I'm never doing this again.

02:26:50.000 Exactly.

02:26:50.000 Yeah.

02:26:51.000 Yeah.

02:26:52.000 Now, what about sponsors?

02:26:53.000 Is it ever an issue with sponsors?

02:26:55.000 The weed thing would be.

02:26:57.000 Right now, the only people I work with other than myself is that Nanaceutical Solutions.

02:27:01.000 So, he's actually working on doing a CBD thing and stuff.

02:27:05.000 I don't know if I'll be a part of that because it's so available now.

02:27:10.000 I'd rather just find whoever does it the very best and not...

02:27:14.000 We're good to go.

02:27:32.000 Oh, wow.

02:27:50.000 So if you weren't holding her, she would literally, I watched her break her own nose.

02:27:56.000 She was 11 years old.

02:27:57.000 This sweet little girl, like just super nice and smiley.

02:28:02.000 But like if you didn't hold her, she'd just whack right in her own face.

02:28:06.000 And we found out that through, I don't remember exactly how it came about, but they gave her THC pills.

02:28:13.000 They gave her THC pills and then stopped.

02:28:16.000 She would walk around the house normally.

02:28:18.000 Like, she was still nonverbal.

02:28:20.000 It's not like it fixed her autism or any of that stuff.

02:28:22.000 But with the whole symptoms of feeling like she was falling, which I don't even think had anything to do with autism.

02:28:28.000 Again, I'm not a doctor.

02:28:31.000 Wait, what?

02:28:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:28:33.000 You gotta worry about that shit.

02:28:36.000 So they gave her THC pills and she was like just walking around the house smiling.

02:28:41.000 She would help us cook.

02:28:42.000 She would move around like she would help the other kids because there's four kids in the house.

02:28:46.000 She would help the other kids tie their shoes, stuff like that.

02:28:48.000 Oh, that's awesome.

02:28:50.000 Then her parents came back.

02:28:52.000 Must have been four months later, and their friends had guilted them about giving their daughter weed, and they stopped giving it to her.

02:28:59.000 And she went right back to it.

02:29:02.000 Straight back to it.

02:29:03.000 So stupid.

02:29:04.000 It's just ignorance.

02:29:05.000 People just don't understand what it is.

02:29:06.000 It's all it is.

02:29:08.000 Oh, that's so sad.

02:29:09.000 I felt so bad.

02:29:10.000 It was one of the things that just ripped me apart from working in that field.

02:29:16.000 There's so much...

02:29:17.000 There's these little rules that you don't understand.

02:29:20.000 We had a kid that would sit, right?

02:29:22.000 And he would feel stressed out and he would sit.

02:29:25.000 And the rule was, when he did that, we weren't allowed to help him up or move him or anything like that because that was rewarding bad behavior.

02:29:33.000 That's how they classified that.

02:29:34.000 So he would just sit in the middle of the road, and we weren't allowed to get him out of the middle of the road.

02:29:40.000 And then he learned that if he didn't want to do something, he basically would stay in his room all day.

02:29:48.000 He would stay in his room all day because he didn't like it.

02:29:51.000 The only worker he liked was me and I think it was just because I was big and jolly and all that.

02:29:56.000 But if he didn't like the person he was working with, he'd just sit in his room on the floor and then they couldn't touch him, they couldn't do anything and he'd just sit there.

02:30:03.000 He'd go days without eating or going anywhere out of the room or anything like that.

02:30:09.000 Yeah.

02:30:29.000 And I don't know if it's like that anymore.

02:30:30.000 This was a long time ago, but it was heartbreaking.

02:30:34.000 I remember everyone was terrified to work with this little boy.

02:30:37.000 He was 10 or 11. He was just a sweet little dude.

02:30:41.000 He got nervous.

02:30:43.000 And so I remember coming in, and one day I was like, you know what, I'm taking him to go to a football game.

02:30:48.000 So I took him to a college Division I football game.

02:30:51.000 Never had an issue.

02:30:52.000 Never had any problems.

02:30:54.000 Never sat down on nothing.

02:30:55.000 Sat second row in the end zone and would get all excited every time anybody came by.

02:31:00.000 The cannon went off for a touchdown.

02:31:02.000 It was like the greatest moment of my whole college career was hanging out with this 11-year-old at a college football game.

02:31:09.000 People were too terrified to even get out of his room.

02:31:13.000 That's terrible.

02:31:14.000 But that's so cool that you got him there, though.

02:31:16.000 Yeah.

02:31:17.000 I'd like to think that a lot of people worked more in that direction after I left, you know?

02:31:22.000 I'm hoping.

02:31:23.000 You could see in his eyes he was a sweet little boy, you know?

02:31:28.000 I've never met a kid that was evil, ever.

02:31:31.000 You just need to know how to work with him, how to talk with him.

02:31:33.000 Well, that's cool that you have that kind of patience.

02:31:35.000 Yeah.

02:31:36.000 Do you have kids of your own?

02:31:37.000 I do.

02:31:38.000 I have a three-year-old boy.

02:31:39.000 Oh, nice.

02:31:40.000 Yeah, my little Atlas bear.

02:31:41.000 First one?

02:31:42.000 Three-year-old?

02:31:42.000 Yeah.

02:31:43.000 Wow, that's a fun age, man.

02:31:44.000 They start talking to you and they're running around.

02:31:47.000 Telling all the stories and everything.

02:31:49.000 At night now, he doesn't even, like, we have to read books before we go to bed.

02:31:52.000 Because when we go to bed, he wants to tell me stories.

02:31:55.000 So he'll lay there and he'll be like, well, this one time?

02:31:58.000 And he'll talk for like ten minutes about some shit, you know?

02:32:01.000 It's so sweet and so cute.

02:32:04.000 It's a wild thing, having a little person that he made.

02:32:08.000 People that don't experience it, it's very, very hard to describe.

02:32:13.000 Yeah.

02:32:14.000 It's like the sweetest, most lovey, most intense sweetness you've ever felt in your life, yet the scariest, fucking most horrifying thing at the exact same time.

02:32:24.000 Right.

02:32:24.000 You just feel so vulnerable.

02:32:25.000 Yeah.

02:32:26.000 Vulnerable is a great word for it.

02:32:27.000 I also have so much more compassion for other people now because I think of other people now as babies that grew up.

02:32:33.000 Yeah.

02:32:33.000 Where I used to think, oh, look at this asshole.

02:32:35.000 And I just think, oh, that asshole used to be a little baby, like someone's little boy.

02:32:38.000 Right.

02:32:38.000 And someone was carrying him and holding him and...

02:32:41.000 He just got bad information and now he's all fucked up.

02:32:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:32:45.000 I saw some homeless guy today.

02:32:46.000 I was at a stoplight.

02:32:47.000 He was wearing a bathrobe.

02:32:48.000 The guy had a bathrobe and socks on.

02:32:51.000 It's just dirty.

02:32:52.000 Yeah.

02:32:52.000 Just fucked up.

02:32:53.000 And I was looking at him like this.

02:32:54.000 That was someone's baby boy.

02:32:56.000 Yeah.

02:32:56.000 And now here he is, a guy in his 30s or 40s, whatever he was, just wandering around all fucked up and dirty with mental health problems, wearing a bathrobe.

02:33:05.000 And I'm like, that used to be someone's boy.

02:33:07.000 Yeah.

02:33:07.000 That's...

02:33:09.000 It's good for you to feel that way, but it's rough to live like that.

02:33:12.000 Yeah.

02:33:13.000 Well, it's so hard when you look at all the problems in the world and all the people that are suffering from poverty and disease and strife and natural disasters and all these things.

02:33:24.000 There's just so many people to care about and think about.

02:33:27.000 It's almost like you can become paralyzed with compassion.

02:33:30.000 Most definitely.

02:33:31.000 Just looking at all the problems with the world.

02:33:33.000 Yeah.

02:33:33.000 And then the other side of it, the one that gets me a lot is like, When you see parents or you hear about parents, I haven't seen it a lot, but you hear about parents who just don't give a fuck.

02:33:44.000 It's like, this is a burden on me, and they avoid it and ditch it.

02:33:49.000 When you look at your daughter's eyes, have you ever once in your life imagined being able to walk away from that?

02:33:54.000 No.

02:33:55.000 Fuck.

02:33:56.000 That would kill me.

02:33:57.000 I heard a story about a lady who abandoned her kids the other day.

02:33:59.000 I just couldn't imagine it.

02:34:01.000 She abandoned her kids and wanted to start fresh, left the husband with the kids.

02:34:05.000 Just left.

02:34:07.000 Wow.

02:34:07.000 And I was just sitting there going, what in the fuck?

02:34:09.000 And then the fires came and their fucking house burnt down.

02:34:13.000 Wow.

02:34:14.000 And so here they are, the dad and the kids, daughters, and the mom fucking jet, and the guys there, no house.

02:34:23.000 Fuck.

02:34:24.000 I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ.

02:34:26.000 Man.

02:34:27.000 Yeah, man.

02:34:28.000 It's rough, because you've got to wonder, what is wrong with that person?

02:34:32.000 What kind of schizophrenia are they dealing with, kind of mental health issues?

02:34:35.000 How could you do that?

02:34:37.000 You think about what you experienced with your son, and I think about what I experienced with my daughters, and how could you not want to be there for them?

02:34:45.000 How could you not want to take care of them?

02:34:47.000 How could you not want to love them?

02:34:50.000 There's some kind of disconnect, man.

02:34:52.000 Yeah, what happened?

02:34:53.000 Well, I mean, you think about that poor girl who kept punching herself in the face because she thought she was falling.

02:34:57.000 Like, there's obviously an issue there.

02:34:59.000 Like, what other issues are there psychologically?

02:35:01.000 Empathy issues, detachments, you know, sociopathy.

02:35:06.000 Like, what's wrong with them that they can allow that in their life?

02:35:11.000 You know, there's almost too many people, man.

02:35:15.000 It's almost too much to pay attention to.

02:35:17.000 Yeah.

02:35:18.000 Well, I mean, legitimately, it's hard to say, but it is too much.

02:35:21.000 Yeah.

02:35:22.000 It's hard to say that and accept it, but it is.

02:35:24.000 I mean, that's how a lot of people end up going crazy.

02:35:26.000 Yeah.

02:35:27.000 Paralyzed from fear or worry.

02:35:28.000 Yeah.

02:35:29.000 That's where weed comes in.

02:35:31.000 Yes.

02:35:32.000 You just worry about other shit.

02:35:33.000 Think about aliens.

02:35:36.000 Aliens.

02:35:36.000 If you had a guess, I'll turn around on you.

02:35:39.000 What do you think about aliens?

02:35:40.000 Do you think Bob Lazar's telling the truth?

02:35:43.000 I know you didn't look him in the eye because you weren't in the room with him.

02:35:45.000 Yeah, but I told you, I'm one of the creepers that watched the YouTube video.

02:35:50.000 I'm that guy right there.

02:35:52.000 I sit at home.

02:35:53.000 I don't really watch much TV. Like, I'll sit at home and, like, stretch and watch these videos.

02:35:59.000 So I think there's a whole new thing to it.

02:36:02.000 Like, it adds an element that I really like.

02:36:04.000 Like, being able to see Miss Pat, dude.

02:36:07.000 Fucking hilarious.

02:36:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:36:08.000 Like, the entire time I was, like, glued.

02:36:12.000 Everybody.

02:36:13.000 I mean, I've never...

02:36:14.000 She's so funny when she talks about broke dudes who are great at slinging the dick.

02:36:17.000 Yeah.

02:36:19.000 You know who I love is Ari.

02:36:21.000 Ari's subtleness, like, oh man, he's fucking hilarious.

02:36:24.000 Well, I would imagine that for, like, a guy who's doing such ruthless, fucking explosive shit like you're doing all the time, like, comedy must be kind of important.

02:36:31.000 For sure.

02:36:32.000 It's a huge release.

02:36:33.000 Plus, I mean, like, I like it, and a lot of my friends were that, like...

02:36:50.000 Tate tried it for a little bit.

02:36:51.000 Yeah, I was with him.

02:36:53.000 I was hanging out with him a lot when he was working on material and stuff.

02:36:56.000 I remember he came over and he gave me this badass poncho one time.

02:37:00.000 He just randomly came over to give me a poncho.

02:37:02.000 Sounds like Tate.

02:37:03.000 Yeah, and then he wanted to hang out and we were sitting out on my deck and he was working and we were just chilling.

02:37:10.000 It's so cool.

02:37:11.000 One of the...

02:37:13.000 It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war?

02:37:13.000 What's that quote?

02:37:17.000 That's Tate.

02:37:17.000 Yes.

02:37:18.000 That's Tate.

02:37:18.000 Yeah.

02:37:19.000 Yeah.

02:37:19.000 And that's similar to you.

02:37:21.000 It's a lot of guys like that.

02:37:22.000 You see a lot of these guys who are just...

02:37:25.000 They're built ready to go.

02:37:27.000 If some shit went down...

02:37:30.000 I would happily stand next to you.

02:37:32.000 I'd feel secure.

02:37:34.000 But you don't have to worry about if you come in here, you're not going to have fake lat syndrome and flex up on somebody.

02:37:41.000 Not being an asshole.

02:37:43.000 That's one of the things you do see with fighters, too, is that most of them, in general, they're really nice people.

02:37:49.000 Yeah.

02:37:49.000 Because they're not always puffing their chest out for no reason.

02:37:53.000 They're acting like an asshole for no reason.

02:37:55.000 They're nice folks.

02:37:56.000 They get all that shit out.

02:37:57.000 They get it out in the gym.

02:37:58.000 And if you're a bad motherfucker, you don't have to act like a bad motherfucker.

02:38:02.000 You can just be you.

02:38:03.000 I wear pink chucks and strong and pretty shirts and shit.

02:38:08.000 I don't have to act like I'm bad.

02:38:09.000 I just do it.

02:38:10.000 Exactly.

02:38:10.000 Well, no one's disputing it.

02:38:12.000 Exactly.

02:38:14.000 Online they sometimes do.

02:38:16.000 Online, of course.

02:38:17.000 Who are they?

02:38:18.000 Yeah.

02:38:18.000 Are they even real?

02:38:19.000 That's the people I'm saying I'm not a doctor for.

02:38:21.000 Oh, for them.

02:38:22.000 Yeah.

02:38:24.000 But for the aliens...

02:38:25.000 What do you think?

02:38:26.000 If you had a bet.

02:38:27.000 If you had $100, your last $100.

02:38:30.000 It's hard.

02:38:31.000 If I had $100 and we were going to find out, I'd say I'm leaning more towards yes than no.

02:38:36.000 I'm leaning more towards yes, too.

02:38:37.000 I wasn't leaning...

02:38:38.000 Before that interview, I wasn't, though.

02:38:40.000 I was in before the documentary, that Jeremy Corbell documentary, Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Flying Saucers.

02:38:47.000 Before that, I was like, mostly bullshit.

02:38:50.000 Is that one available?

02:38:51.000 Netflix.

02:38:51.000 Netflix?

02:38:52.000 Yeah, it's great.

02:38:53.000 Yeah, I'll check that out.

02:38:54.000 There's a lot of old Bob Lazar shit, too, from the George Knapp interviews where he goes over the details of the craft and he describes it and explains it.

02:39:02.000 That motherfucker knew about Element 115 in the 1990s.

02:39:07.000 That's one of the big ones that gets me.

02:39:11.000 That's a big red flag that this dude's real.

02:39:13.000 There's a lot.

02:39:13.000 Who knows?

02:39:14.000 But there's a lot that makes me go, hmm.

02:39:17.000 I know.

02:39:19.000 You talk about this all the time.

02:39:21.000 But I so fucking wish Sasquatch was real.

02:39:26.000 Every time I'm in Oregon or in Washington, I'm walking around, I buy all the little roadside trinkets and shit.

02:39:32.000 I love that shit.

02:39:33.000 I wish he was fucking real, man.

02:39:35.000 It would be nice, but I think we would have found a dead one.

02:39:37.000 You would have.

02:39:38.000 I mean, that's one of the ones I'm like 90% sure.

02:39:41.000 You always got to give room.

02:39:43.000 You always got to give room for the possibility.

02:39:46.000 The thing is, when people really believe and then go looking for it, they invest so much time in it, they start going crazy.

02:39:52.000 Yeah.

02:39:52.000 Like Survivorman, Les Stroud?

02:39:54.000 He's gone.

02:39:54.000 Yes.

02:39:55.000 Gone, gone.

02:39:56.000 He's gone.

02:39:56.000 He's out there in the woods.

02:39:57.000 Yeah.

02:39:58.000 He's got a pup tent waiting for Bigfoot to knock out the fucking zippers.

02:40:01.000 It's weird, man.

02:40:01.000 Yeah.

02:40:02.000 He's a 100% believer now.

02:40:04.000 Yeah.

02:40:05.000 And he does that Survivorman, Bigfoot show.

02:40:07.000 He's like, what?

02:40:07.000 I heard a branch snap.

02:40:08.000 Cut the commercial.

02:40:09.000 That's definitely a Squatch.

02:40:11.000 Those shows are weird, man.

02:40:11.000 Yeah.

02:40:13.000 Because those shows have been on TV. Like, Surviving Bigfoot, or Finding Bigfoot, rather.

02:40:17.000 Finding Bigfoot was on TV for, like, what?

02:40:19.000 Eight fucking years?

02:40:20.000 They never found shit.

02:40:22.000 No.

02:40:22.000 Like, how the fuck do you keep renewing that show?

02:40:24.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:40:26.000 I'm going to breathe underwater.

02:40:27.000 The show's called Breathing Underwater.

02:40:29.000 Can you breathe underwater?

02:40:30.000 Tune in next week.

02:40:30.000 Not yet.

02:40:31.000 Next season, though.

02:40:32.000 We're going to try again to breathe underwater.

02:40:34.000 We'll figure this shit out, y'all.

02:40:35.000 Just give us an off-season.

02:40:36.000 We'll get this.

02:40:37.000 I'm talking to these scientists.

02:40:38.000 They're saying no one can breathe underwater.

02:40:39.000 Not yet.

02:40:40.000 They don't know shit.

02:40:41.000 Trust me.

02:40:42.000 South Louisiana, we got a guy.

02:40:43.000 He breathes underwater.

02:40:45.000 If there was a Bigfoot, no one would be happier than me.

02:40:48.000 Dude, I'd be right there, though.

02:40:50.000 I'd be so fucking stoked.

02:40:51.000 Imagine seeing it in a cage.

02:40:53.000 Yeah.

02:40:54.000 Just fucking trying to get out, looking around at people.

02:40:58.000 I want to see it in Pick a Destiny, like the Mushrooms trip where he's walking and singing with him.

02:40:58.000 No, not cage, though.

02:41:04.000 Oh, right.

02:41:05.000 Jack Black's Pick a Destiny.

02:41:07.000 Pick of Destiny.

02:41:08.000 I would want to be there.

02:41:10.000 I would want to see it with my own eyes.

02:41:12.000 A video I'd be like, man, I saw an 80 foot tall Donald Trump with a Hillary Clinton head, powering it, walking through a post-apocalyptic Philadelphia.

02:41:24.000 You can't prove to me that video is real.

02:41:26.000 I need to see it.

02:41:27.000 I would shit my pants.

02:41:29.000 I don't know what I would say though.

02:41:30.000 If I was in the woods and I was camping and I saw a fucking 9 foot tall gorilla, I don't know what I would say.

02:41:36.000 You wouldn't.

02:41:37.000 I mean, if you came back...

02:41:38.000 You probably have to.

02:41:38.000 I might keep my mouth shut.

02:41:40.000 Yeah, because you'd feel so stupid.

02:41:42.000 Well, plus, I mean, there's a lot.

02:41:44.000 I mean, say there is one out there.

02:41:46.000 There's a lot of bullshit artists out there telling you they saw some shit, you know?

02:41:50.000 A lot of people trying to get some camera time.

02:41:52.000 There can't be one, though.

02:41:53.000 If it's going to be a real thing, a living thing, there has to be a living population of them.

02:41:57.000 Yeah, because primates don't live that long.

02:41:59.000 Like, I don't think there's a primate that lives any older than humans.

02:42:02.000 Yeah.

02:42:02.000 We're just way into the weeds.

02:42:04.000 We know it doesn't exist.

02:42:05.000 Most likely it doesn't exist.

02:42:07.000 Yeah, as they get better and better at using drones and scanning the forest and stuff, it's getting less and less likely.

02:42:14.000 Yeah.

02:42:15.000 I used to do that as a kid, though, like walk out in the woods and look and hope he was around.

02:42:19.000 Hope!

02:42:20.000 Yeah.

02:42:20.000 When I was living in Oregon, I was like, Hell's Canyon is probably one of the least explored parts of Oregon.

02:42:25.000 If he was anywhere, he'd be up there, you know?

02:42:28.000 Well, there's some dense-ass thick forests in the Pacific Northwest, which is one of the reasons why I think it's so attractive.

02:42:33.000 Yeah.

02:42:34.000 Because, like, you think, like, man, anything could be in here.

02:42:37.000 No one knows.

02:42:37.000 Right.

02:42:38.000 Like, you go outside of Philadelphia, or, excuse me, Seattle, when you go into, like, you know, what is it?

02:42:44.000 What's the mountain out there?

02:42:45.000 What's the...

02:42:46.000 St. Helens.

02:42:47.000 St. Helens is the one that blew, but there's another one that...

02:42:49.000 Anyway.

02:42:50.000 Those big-ass mountains filled with soup.

02:42:53.000 The trees are so dense, it's like a box of Q-tips.

02:42:56.000 Yeah.

02:42:56.000 Just one after the other.

02:42:57.000 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

02:42:59.000 And the forest floor is all pine needles so that nothing would leave a footprint.

02:43:03.000 Right.

02:43:04.000 And then you look, you're like, what?

02:43:05.000 If you saw something 30 yards away, it could disappear instantly.

02:43:09.000 Left, right, you wouldn't know where the fuck it is.

02:43:11.000 You'd never find it.

02:43:12.000 And it could be out there.

02:43:14.000 So I think that also leads to this delusional idea that it might be alive.

02:43:20.000 Right.

02:43:20.000 But I think it definitely was a real thing.

02:43:22.000 You think back in the day?

02:43:24.000 Yeah.

02:43:24.000 They have that gigantopithecus that they've proven was a real bipedal hominid that existed as recently as 100,000 years ago.

02:43:35.000 In America?

02:43:36.000 It was in Asia.

02:43:36.000 No.

02:43:37.000 They found it in an apothecary shop.

02:43:40.000 There was an anthropologist who was in an apothecary shop and they found teeth.

02:43:44.000 And he was like, what the fuck is this?

02:43:46.000 And they said, we found these.

02:43:48.000 And he's like, where'd you find these?

02:43:49.000 Because he recognized them as primate teeth.

02:43:51.000 And then they started digging, and they found jawbones that were indicative of a bipedal hominid.

02:43:56.000 Because of the shape of the jawbone, they could tell the difference between the way a gorilla's bones are shaped and the way ours are.

02:44:02.000 And they think it was in the orangutan family, that it was enormous.

02:44:05.000 Some enormous fucking 8 to 10 foot tall bipedal ape.

02:44:10.000 Yeah.

02:44:11.000 So stories that build and build into something.

02:44:14.000 Yeah, that's probably where the lore and the legend comes from.

02:44:17.000 You've never seen a picture of what it looks like?

02:44:19.000 I don't know.

02:44:20.000 I remember you talking about it on here.

02:44:22.000 I don't remember if I saw a picture.

02:44:25.000 Yeah, you can find it on Google.

02:44:26.000 There's pictures of it standing next to a standard six-foot-tall man, like what a regular-sized man would be like.

02:44:33.000 Standing next to this giant ass fucking gorilla that really did live It really did live and it lived alongside people while people were real people They know at least a hundred thousand years ago.

02:44:44.000 It was alive.

02:44:45.000 That's that's what it looked like.

02:44:47.000 Oh shit.

02:44:48.000 Yeah That's a depiction of them.

02:44:51.000 This is a few different versions of that We'll get that other one with the arm up in the air Jamie in the lower right hand corner No, no, no go go up up up See those pictures?

02:45:03.000 See that?

02:45:04.000 When you have those little pictures in the little windows below it?

02:45:07.000 See the one with his arm up in the air?

02:45:08.000 Yeah, click that one.

02:45:09.000 That's the one.

02:45:10.000 Jesus.

02:45:11.000 That's what it looked like.

02:45:12.000 That shit would fuck you up.

02:45:13.000 I bet you it was fast, too.

02:45:15.000 Probably super fast.

02:45:15.000 Yeah.

02:45:16.000 But see how it's kind of like orangutan looking?

02:45:18.000 That's what they think.

02:45:19.000 They think it was kind of a member of the orangutan family.

02:45:21.000 Looks like my dad.

02:45:24.000 But it was a real thing.

02:45:26.000 But it's just funny how we want those things to be real.

02:45:29.000 We want mysteries to be real.

02:45:31.000 It's part of the reason why you have to really worry or wonder whether or not someone's telling the truth.

02:45:36.000 Because the desire for something to be real is so strong.

02:45:40.000 Like UFOs.

02:45:41.000 The same thing.

02:45:42.000 People want to believe.

02:45:44.000 God!

02:45:44.000 It's so hard to be objective.

02:45:45.000 What about with all that stuff Hotep was saying on here?

02:45:48.000 Because, like, a lot of it...

02:45:49.000 He sounds, like, way more intelligent than I was expecting when I first turned it on.

02:45:54.000 I didn't really know much about him.

02:45:55.000 You mean about Africans traveling the world in boats?

02:45:59.000 Well, about them being in America first or about them, like, giving that technology to Rome.

02:46:04.000 He said a lot of stuff that, like...

02:46:07.000 I mean, obviously, again, I'm a meathead, and I'm not like the smartest man on the planet, but he's made a lot of sense from what he was saying.

02:46:15.000 Well, for sure, when people think about Africa, they forget about Egypt.

02:46:19.000 Right.

02:46:19.000 And Egypt is one of the most fascinating and absolutely spectacularly advanced civilizations of all time.

02:46:26.000 We have no idea how they built those structures.

02:46:28.000 There's all this speculation about the...

02:46:30.000 Especially like the Great Pyramid.

02:46:32.000 It's just a stunning technological and physical accomplishment that to this day baffles people.

02:46:39.000 That's Africa.

02:46:40.000 So those people had boats, and we don't even know how long...

02:46:43.000 I mean, Graham Hancock believes, and so does Robert Shock and...

02:46:48.000 John Anthony West, when he was alive, believes that those people were building those things tens of thousands of years ago.

02:46:55.000 That is like a spectacularly creative and innovative society that was most likely wiped out by some sort of global cataclysm around 12,000 years ago.

02:47:06.000 And then everything after that was a rebuilding of past knowledge.

02:47:10.000 So it would make sense if they had traveled to south parts of America and And then just basically everything got wiped out.

02:47:17.000 And so they're working from a fresh start in America.

02:47:21.000 And then over on this side, they don't have the information about that because they all got wiped out.

02:47:25.000 Well, it certainly makes sense when you look at the Olmecs.

02:47:28.000 Those giant stone heads that look like African faces.

02:47:31.000 I mean, they look exactly like Africans.

02:47:33.000 And these are heads that came from thousands and thousands of years ago in a civilization, the Olmecs, that they know very little about.

02:47:41.000 Yeah.

02:47:42.000 I felt like I was crazy for thinking he wasn't crazy for some of the shit he was saying.

02:47:48.000 It's like the history of humans is something that becomes more, it unveils itself over time.

02:47:55.000 And the more they're starting to find new things, like there was something, there was some ancient castle that they just discovered that used to be underwater.

02:48:04.000 Yeah.

02:48:05.000 It's like 3,500 years old.

02:48:07.000 You know what I'm talking about?

02:48:08.000 Like the receding floodwaters?

02:48:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:48:10.000 They felt like, what the fuck is this?

02:48:12.000 They don't even know what it is.

02:48:13.000 So 3,500 years ago, long before Europeans ever came to America, these people had built this fucking castle that is now underwater.

02:48:22.000 Sea levels rise and fall.

02:48:24.000 That's it.

02:48:25.000 I think it's in Iraq.

02:48:25.000 Yeah, where is it?

02:48:26.000 Oh, yeah, it is in Iraq.

02:48:27.000 Yeah.

02:48:28.000 So they found these ancient...

02:48:29.000 Now, Iraq is also where Sumer was.

02:48:32.000 That's the earliest known civilization in terms of the earliest known writing, the earliest known agriculture and mathematics.

02:48:40.000 That's Sumer.

02:48:41.000 That's the Epic of Gilgamesh.

02:48:43.000 All that shit came from that part of the world.

02:48:45.000 So there's all sorts of stuff that is probably lost in that...

02:48:48.000 You know, thousands and thousands of years of history.

02:48:51.000 It's amazing!

02:48:52.000 It's so fascinating to be there, just like this place that I was in in Italy.

02:48:58.000 There's a church in Ravello that's a thousand years old, and below the church is a glass floor of the church.

02:49:06.000 There's pictures of it on my Instagram.

02:49:07.000 There's a glass floor of the church, and below the glass floor is another church that's so old they don't even know when it was built.

02:49:17.000 Oh, wow.

02:49:17.000 So it's more, that's it.

02:49:19.000 That's from my Instagram.

02:49:20.000 That's so fucking cool.

02:49:22.000 So that, they have it, like, blocked off and they put a glass floor over it so you could look down and see it because they don't want, you know, people to tread on it and fuck with it.

02:49:33.000 But the church itself, just the church that you could walk around in is a thousand years old.

02:49:40.000 Right.

02:49:40.000 You know, it's like, what?

02:49:42.000 And we're working off information that's basically just been since we started writing things down.

02:49:47.000 Yeah.

02:49:48.000 We've got this little short time period where we started writing things down.

02:49:51.000 I mean, acting almost as though that was the beginning of time.

02:49:55.000 And you have to take people's word for it.

02:49:57.000 Exactly.

02:49:58.000 There's no pictures, no video.

02:49:59.000 And the same thing with the aliens and the Sasquatch.

02:50:02.000 There's some things that you want to believe.

02:50:04.000 So throw that in there.

02:50:06.000 And history was written by the winners.

02:50:08.000 Exactly.

02:50:09.000 So a bunch of lying assholes that killed everybody.

02:50:12.000 Yeah.

02:50:13.000 We are the champions, my friends.

02:50:17.000 My son loves that song.

02:50:18.000 Between that one and We Will Rock You, we were in a limo yesterday.

02:50:22.000 He was like, put on We Will Rock You.

02:50:24.000 So I'm cranking We Will Rock You.

02:50:26.000 My three-year-old's in the back.

02:50:27.000 Boom, boom.

02:50:28.000 He's so excited.

02:50:30.000 That's awesome.

02:50:31.000 Yeah, that's a...

02:50:31.000 When you think about fucking classic songs, man, Queen had a gang of classic songs that just...

02:50:37.000 Worldwide.

02:50:38.000 To this day that are used at basketball games and football games all over the world.

02:50:43.000 Yeah.

02:50:43.000 Huge.

02:50:45.000 Such an icon.

02:50:46.000 Yeah, Jon Jones came out to We Are the Champions.

02:50:48.000 Yeah.

02:50:49.000 This last one?

02:50:50.000 Yeah.

02:50:50.000 Nice.

02:50:51.000 I didn't get to see the fights.

02:50:53.000 I know John went to a split decision, right?

02:50:57.000 Yeah, it was a tough fight, man.

02:50:59.000 Fucking Tiago Santos is dangerous.

02:51:01.000 He hit John with some big shots, fucked his legs up with kicks to the point where John had to be carried out.

02:51:07.000 When he walked out of the octagon, they were carrying him.

02:51:10.000 He couldn't walk.

02:51:11.000 His legs were fucked up.

02:51:12.000 That guy kicked the shit out of his legs.

02:51:14.000 And Tiago blew his knee out somewhere in the first, we believe.

02:51:18.000 He threw a kick and blew his ACL out, but never even winced.

02:51:22.000 He hobbled around on that knee and just kept throwing kicks with it and everything.

02:51:25.000 That's fucking crazy.

02:51:27.000 It was an awesome fight.

02:51:28.000 You think he fought...

02:51:30.000 Again, I'm not projecting anything.

02:51:32.000 I didn't get to see the fight.

02:51:33.000 Did he fight well enough to earn...

02:51:34.000 Suffered extensive damage to left knee.

02:51:36.000 He had surgery already.

02:51:37.000 Out for the rest of 2019. Oh, shit.

02:51:39.000 Well, then there goes the question.

02:51:40.000 I was going to say, do you think he earned another shot?

02:51:42.000 Well, he definitely did.

02:51:44.000 He proved he was worthy.

02:51:45.000 Yeah.

02:51:46.000 He had a split decision.

02:51:48.000 What?

02:51:49.000 What's up?

02:51:49.000 Complete ligaments torn in his left knee.

02:51:52.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:51:54.000 Yeah, we kind of saw it looking at it.

02:51:57.000 Yeah.

02:51:58.000 Show his left knee meniscus and all his ligaments are completely torn.

02:52:02.000 Wow.

02:52:03.000 The meniscus and all the ligaments.

02:52:06.000 That's brutal.

02:52:06.000 Jesus Christ.

02:52:07.000 And he still stood in there for four fucking rounds.

02:52:10.000 He needed surgery on his right knee earlier this year.

02:52:13.000 Also suffered damage during the fight as he compensated for his left knee.

02:52:17.000 Oh, man.

02:52:18.000 So he doesn't even know if he might need tests on his right knee as well.

02:52:22.000 But you know what?

02:52:24.000 The good news is the UFC doctors are at the top of the food chain.

02:52:27.000 They'll fill that motherfucker up with stem cells.

02:52:29.000 Mm-hmm.

02:52:30.000 Do everything they can to rebuild some of that inner tissue.

02:52:33.000 Good.

02:52:33.000 He deserves it.

02:52:34.000 If you're going to stand in there and put it all on the line like that, give that man his fucking stem cells.

02:52:39.000 If they fight again, Jon Jones fucking power doubles him, takes him to the ground.

02:52:43.000 Yeah.

02:52:44.000 I mean, I think.

02:52:44.000 I was shocked that he didn't do it.

02:52:47.000 I read, I don't know if it was on his page or on the one, like MMA Junkie or something, but he said that it was pride.

02:52:54.000 He didn't want to do that.

02:52:56.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

02:52:57.000 That's John, though.

02:52:59.000 But pride almost cost him the title.

02:53:01.000 Yeah.

02:53:01.000 Like, what if Tiago clipped him and dropped him in the third round, and then he won that round on all the judges' scorecards, and then he won a decision?

02:53:08.000 Yeah.

02:53:08.000 He almost lost the title because of it.

02:53:10.000 Crazy.

02:53:10.000 I mean, I don't agree necessarily with the guy who gave it to Tiago.

02:53:15.000 I'd have to watch it and see how they thought it.

02:53:18.000 Because when you're calling a fight, I'm trying to be entertaining.

02:53:22.000 I'm looking for patterns.

02:53:24.000 But I'm not really scoring it.

02:53:26.000 Right.

02:53:26.000 To score it, I think you have to do it in silence.

02:53:28.000 Right.

02:53:28.000 Yeah.

02:53:29.000 So I'd have to see whether or not I agreed with him.

02:53:31.000 But it was definitely close.

02:53:33.000 It was definitely interesting.

02:53:34.000 And a lot more interesting than a lot of people thought.

02:53:35.000 A lot of people thought John was going to blow him out of the water.

02:53:37.000 Yeah, that's what I was expecting.

02:53:39.000 I've messed around just like, you know, like bro, like pushing him around and stuff like that.

02:53:45.000 And he's way stronger than I would expect.

02:53:47.000 Oh, he's strong as fuck, man.

02:53:49.000 Strong as shit.

02:53:49.000 He took Daniel Cormier down, you know?

02:53:51.000 Yeah.

02:53:52.000 I mean, he's a motherfucker, dude.

02:53:54.000 And I think when he goes up to heavyweight, he's going to be even stronger.

02:53:56.000 And I think that's probably what's going to happen next for John.

02:53:59.000 Well, yeah, he fucking should.

02:54:01.000 Yeah.

02:54:01.000 Winter Steep and the Daniel Fighting.

02:54:03.000 That's out here in August.

02:54:05.000 August.

02:54:06.000 That is, yeah, that's in August, and that's at Anaheim.

02:54:09.000 Yeah.

02:54:10.000 Oh, man.

02:54:11.000 DC and Steep A2, that should be very interesting, too.

02:54:14.000 I don't even know who to root for, because I fucking love Steep A. Yeah.

02:54:18.000 I love him, but, like, I've got to...

02:54:21.000 I feel like I have to love Daniel because everyone else, for no fucking reason, doesn't.

02:54:25.000 They do now.

02:54:26.000 You think more and more he's getting more love?

02:54:28.000 The tide's turned.

02:54:29.000 The tide's turned.

02:54:30.000 Because he fucking deserves it.

02:54:32.000 He's a bad motherfucker.

02:54:34.000 Especially when he knocked out Stipe with one punch.

02:54:36.000 That turned the tide.

02:54:37.000 Nice.

02:54:37.000 Good.

02:54:38.000 Good for him.

02:54:38.000 When he beat Anthony Johnson, that turned the tide.

02:54:41.000 People get it now.

02:54:42.000 For a while, though, they were looking at him like he's illegitimate.

02:54:45.000 Yeah, that's absurd.

02:54:48.000 Welcome to the world of MMA. Pettis vs.

02:54:50.000 Diaz is on that card too.

02:54:52.000 And Yoel Romero vs.

02:54:54.000 Polo Costa.

02:54:55.000 I can't take it!

02:54:57.000 All right, brother.

02:54:58.000 Let's wrap this up.

02:54:59.000 It's already 3 o'clock.

02:55:00.000 We've been doing this for three hours.

02:55:01.000 Holy shit.

02:55:02.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:55:02.000 Yeah.

02:55:03.000 Time flies.

02:55:04.000 So tell people again when this show is on the History Channel.

02:55:07.000 We're on Wednesday nights.

02:55:09.000 It's Strongest Man in History with me, myself, and Eddie Hall, Brian Shaw, and Nick Best.

02:55:15.000 You can check me out on Instagram.

02:55:16.000 It's Robert Oberst, O-V-E-R-S-T. Beautiful.

02:55:20.000 Thank you, brother.

02:55:21.000 That was awesome, man.

02:55:22.000 A lot of fun.

02:55:23.000 Thank you very much.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 08, 2019

Joe Rogan Experience #1321 - Robert Oberst

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