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00:00:48.000People are like listening to this going, what in the fuck is going on here?
00:00:52.000Do not smoke weed and watch this episode.
00:00:53.000What is here is when there's people that are just listening.
00:00:56.000If you're just listening, you probably should stop this and go to YouTube and watch the YouTube version because Whitney brought a robot that they made for her recent comedy special, which is called Can I Touch It?
00:02:43.000I think because she was flirting with him and because she was trapped.
00:02:49.000And because he could save her and she would love him.
00:02:54.000I mean, that's really what was going on in the movie.
00:02:57.000She was playing this game to get him to fall in love with her so that she could eventually escape.
00:03:01.000The end of the movie, spoiler alert, when she leaves him locked in that room and he's smashing at the door trying to get out and she gets in that helicopter.
00:03:11.000Because I think the most fucked up thing about this thing, because this is such a weird experiment that I want to do, is how I anthropomorphize her and, like, worry about her.
00:03:43.000But no, he thinks it's really weird and creepy.
00:03:46.000But I was reading about the reason we're creeped out by robots is pathogen avoidance.
00:03:52.000We've evolved to be repelled by anything that looks human but doesn't move like a human because our primordial brain thinks it could be diseased.
00:04:00.000It's basically like our primal brain saying, don't fuck this thing that's sick.
00:04:29.000I mean, I think that what was being explained to me was that pathogen avoidance means we've evolved to be repelled by anything that looks human but doesn't move like a human.
00:05:55.000My concern is artificial intelligence.
00:05:58.000I have a legitimate concern for artificial intelligence because I think that what we are is some sort of an electronic caterpillar and that we're making cocoons and that we're going to give birth to a butterfly and that's going to be the next stage of life.
00:06:11.000And that if you go back and look at the evolution of the human species, at one point in time we were Australopithecus, we were some weird hominids, and we evolved and became what we are now.
00:06:23.000And if you went back to those things and asked them, hey, one day do you want to drive around in a Tesla and talk on a phone and stare at the movie screen?
00:06:30.000They'd be like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, but I've got to go find some nuts.
00:07:08.000Have you ever left your, I mean, you're not, you probably are cool about it, but when I leave my phone somewhere and I realize I've lost something, it's like an emotional, it's like you've lost your kid at the mall.
00:08:06.000Yeah, so they're sending you things that piss you off.
00:08:08.000Whether it's abortion or Catholic priests, whatever it is that is going to get you to post the most, and usually those are things that get people outraged.
00:08:16.000So it's literally raising the level of outrage in our discourse.
00:08:21.000Yeah, because we're so addicted right now to self-righteous indignation.
00:09:07.000Well, I told you I wanted to get a real doll, a male real doll, and I wanted to call them up and say, no dick, no asshole, just so I could practice jujitsu on it.
00:13:35.000So I think it's like when I feel like the people that are most afraid of robots are the ones that are least used to the fear of other things.
00:13:42.000Because I'm used every day, anyone could kill me all the time.
00:13:46.000Like that's just part of my reality that anyone at any moment could snap and kill me if they wanted to.
00:13:50.000But the reality of weapons is most people can kill most people.
00:14:02.000So it's like the first time in your life there's really something that's like, oh fuck, that might not be something I could kill if I really wanted to.
00:14:08.000That's an interesting way of looking at it.
00:14:12.000I have because, well no, just because I've listened to you and Lex talk about it, and Lex Friedman, because now that I have a robot, I have to fucking know...
00:18:43.000If you couldn't jerk off, that's when it would be a real problem because then your whole life would be clouded, all your judgment would be, your decisions would be made, just how can I get rid of this cum?
00:18:56.000I do know a lot of guys now, and maybe they're full of shit, but that are going like, I haven't masturbated in two years and I'm more focused and I use that testosterone as an engine for other things.
00:20:12.000With no altitude, that could be a thing.
00:20:14.000Some people legitimately have problems.
00:20:15.000But I think most people get this for companionship.
00:20:18.000Like it's more it's like because I got onto the I signed on to a forum online of all the guys that own the sex dolls and I monitored their conversations just to like see what they were up to because I was like what if this is some depraved fucked up thing where guys are just like practicing murdering I didn't know what it was so I just wanted to see it's a lot of guys that are handicapped it's a lot of guys whose wives died and they feel guilty moving on with a human woman which is kind of well there was one guy who would dress his doll up in his wife's clothes The weirdest
00:20:48.000part is that he was like, you know, it's like she's still here, which makes me think she'd been dead for a while.
00:21:23.000They have more wrinkles on their fucking face.
00:21:25.000And then a lot of the guys that have them, when you start monitoring their conversations for a while, they start to not want to fuck them anymore because it feels weird.
00:21:35.000And they anthropomorphize them and they start worrying that they're lonely and they get them a friend.
00:21:41.000It starts to spiral, and they start being like, I feel like I need to close the door when I take a shit.
00:21:49.000And it starts to kind of consume their lives.
00:21:51.000So when it comes to robots, I feel like I'm more worried, not about the robots, but more how we're going to get emotionally attached to them.
00:21:57.000Like the way at the end of Ex Machina, he thought that she was going to...
00:22:17.000I mean, this is going to be a reality one day.
00:22:19.000We might not be here, but I do think these are going to be like iPhones at some point.
00:22:23.000Well, I think one day you're going to go over to your friend's house, and he's going to have this really hot girl in lingerie, and she's going to be cleaning up, and you'll be like, is she real?
00:25:13.000But also, my thing with that is just like, if they're weirdos, if they're freaks, if they're perverts, don't you want them all to be in one place?
00:27:27.000I've been reading so much about this shit and a lot of the problems with the robots and the mistakes that they're making are obviously the humans are making the mistakes with the algorithm because so many smart people have to make dumb algorithms and they're like almost too smart.
00:27:40.000So there was Peter Haas, he's a robotics guy at Brown, was trying to teach a robot to differentiate between a husky and a wolf and What?
00:28:55.000There's a group of people that thinks within – they think 2042, like the 2042 symposium.
00:29:00.000It's like their concept is – and I went to this thing, me and Ari and Duncan for sci-fi.
00:29:06.000We went to this thing in New York City a few years back where all these guys think that in 2042 there's going to be some sort of – Some revelation in technology that allows human beings to download their brains into computers.
00:29:24.000Download consciousness and even make replicas of your own consciousness.
00:29:40.000But when Kurzweil explains it, that everybody is short-sighted.
00:29:43.000Because if you look at the exponential progress of technology, Even though we're so far away in our eyes that everything changes exponentially.
00:29:53.000And within 20 years, we'll have gone through a million years of technological evolution or some other crazy number.
00:30:00.000Fill in the crazy number, whatever it is.
00:30:01.000But by the time 2042 actually rolls around, we will be so far ahead of where we are now that it's impossible for us to even imagine the territory.
00:30:13.000Yeah, which is, I think part of the reason I wanted to, like, make her, is like, why isn't anyone talking about laws?
00:30:20.000Like, no one's really thinking about, like, I feel like everything, we sort of, after it's become too late, that's when we start pulling it together in terms of legislation and shit.
00:30:29.000How do you incorporate her in your set?
00:32:31.000Is this some insane, they just put a golf course on her body, 18 holes?
00:32:35.000I just didn't know what I was kind of endorsing or talking about.
00:32:39.000And I was just, I gotta be honest with you, I was just so surprised at how, it was kind of touching, to be honest, when they were telling me about what the guys ordered.
00:32:47.000I was a little surprised that it didn't align with where everyone's like, there's this impossible standard of beauty, like that's all you fucking hear these days.
00:32:56.000Half the guys that ordered them requested pubes, spent an extra $1,400 for them.
00:33:49.000But I also just felt like there was a little bit, you know, when they were telling me that, I was like, oh God, maybe fucking guys are made to now feel shame for what they're into.
00:33:57.000You know, no one talks about the way that, you know, and I do a lot in my special.
00:34:01.000I'm going to get a lot of shit for this because I'm basically defending guys the whole time.
00:35:21.000But so yeah, I guess it was just like, I feel like the media wants to be like, these are so bad for society, just because everyone's outraged about everything now.
00:37:00.000Dark areolas are huge, which is interesting because I think there is a biological basis for that because once your nipples get dark, it means usually when you give birth, your nipples get darker so the baby can find the nipple.
00:37:54.000I was really fascinated by this one roboticist.
00:37:57.000The coolest part about having a robot is that I get to talk to all these fucking roboticists and he was saying that the big fear with robots is because they're all about efficiency.
00:38:05.000And there was that one study where they told a robot to jump on the table.
00:38:10.000And what you would do is you'd go, okay, you would just jump on the table.
00:38:12.000But it actually took more energy to jump on the table than to just break the table and push it to the floor and step on top of it.
00:38:19.000So it just went and just stepped on top of it.
00:41:11.000And then I started watching videos about people that got attacked by sharks, and there's a girl who had her arm bitten off by a shark, Bethany something, and she said that it, like, almost felt orgasmic.
00:41:21.000Because like dopamine rushes to the area to get you to keep fighting for your life basically because if you felt the pain you would give up.
00:41:28.000So I didn't really feel a lot of pain until I got to the ER and then it started like throbbing after like a couple hours when the blood dried up and it just started to get uncomfortable and itchy.
00:41:39.000But there was something that was so quick.
00:45:41.000I think something that, and I was talking to this facial transplant person about how it's actually really hard to get something to look similar.
00:45:50.000Like the bone start, everything's got to be perfect.
00:46:38.000But the idea was that these pods, they came from outer space, they grew, and then when you had them in your house, they would create a double of you that would take you over.
00:46:49.000If you came home and you saw that, because it looks like you, but it doesn't look like you.
00:46:56.000What is different about it besides the lack of wrinkles?
00:47:57.000The guys that buy these on the chat rooms, they usually spend most of the time talking to each other about how to fix the fingers because they break them off by accident constantly.
00:48:36.000But if you came home and that was in your house, standing there staring at you, what kind of a fucking heart attack would you have if you didn't know that you had, like if you didn't have this, right?
00:48:44.000If you didn't go through all the process, you went, and one day you put the key to your lock, you open up your door, you step inside your house, and she's standing there in like some sexy lingerie or in a bikini or something like that staring at you.
00:48:56.000What a fucking heart attack you would have.
00:53:49.000He got under his meat of his chest to make his chest poke forward more.
00:53:55.000And so is that something somebody does because they can't accomplish it naturally or they're just lazy and cutting corners?
00:54:01.000You'd have to ask them, but the reality is there's things, some people are ectomorphs, and ectomorphs are like really thin people that have an incredibly hard time gaining weight.
00:54:16.000Male plastic surgery is a really big thing now, but putting filters on it, I don't know, it feels like a slippery- I fucking love that show, Botched.
00:54:24.000One episode was actually pretty interesting, where a guy had been in an injury and he got his breast destroyed, his peck, and they had to fix it.
00:54:47.000He fought Vitor Belfort in 1997. He was Vitor Belfort's inaugural fight in the UFC. And we didn't know about Vitor when Vitor was 19 years old.
00:54:57.000And I knew who he was because I was training with Vitor back then.
00:55:00.000I was a white belt at Carlson Gracie's school on Hawthorne in West Hollywood.
00:55:07.000So we knew he was this phenomenal talent, but a lot of people didn't know that he was this incredible boxer at this crazy hand speed.
00:56:25.000They would get into duels with swords, and they would have dueling scars.
00:56:29.000And a lot of the Operation Paperclip Nazis that we got from Germany at the end of World War II When NASA took on a bunch of German scientists, a lot of them had these horrific dueling scars on their face.
00:58:17.000See, so he's got a plate over his nose to keep his nose intact, because he couldn't really stitch that bitch back on.
00:58:22.000But they would take these huge scars on their cheeks, because they would be dueling with real fucking swords, and they would have these practice dueling matches.
00:58:29.000And then they'd have to stitch them up, so these guys all had these huge scars.
00:58:34.000By the way, when it comes back to cauliflower ears, a lot of guys did that themselves on purple.
01:00:10.000We were talking about before the show started that I think it would be cool to have a robot that moved at like 50%, like a martial arts robot, that you would be able to practice technique on.
01:00:22.000You'd basically, what you would do is do drills, right?
01:00:25.000Like you do like a Dutch combination, which is one, two, left hook to the body, right leg kick.
01:00:29.000And you would do it like, while it's in front of you, advancing, you'd pop, pop, bang, boom!
01:00:33.000And it would have to like react to your punches, but it would do everything like 50% speed.
01:00:38.000So you could take a chance of this thing hitting you, but it probably wouldn't.
01:00:43.000It would provide you with enough movement so that you could develop patterns in your mind, and your body would synchronize with these patterns, so that in a real fight, you would have these things sort of ingrained.
01:00:57.000One of the things that happens in a fight is...
01:01:00.000Things happen that you don't think of.
01:01:02.000You just do them, and you don't realize you were even going to do them until you already did it.
01:01:39.000Unlike a woman, she's not even going to flinch.
01:01:42.000Like, if you see porns, it's one thing about porns, it's like the moment the load hits, no matter how good of an actress is, the moment the load hits, like...
01:02:57.000Because I was like, this special, and I loved your special because, like, you acknowledge, you're like, I'm gonna get in trouble for this, like, you're gonna be so, like, that was just so fucking smart.
01:03:07.000When I was writing this special, it's the first time I've ever done one where I started cutting bits, because I was like, it's just not worth the fighting.
01:03:12.000Like, I don't even want to fucking deal with it, you know?
01:03:14.000Like, I had this whole bit on Marilyn Monroe, and how I don't think she's a, like...
01:03:19.000I feel like she's being forced on us as a feminist icon.
01:03:23.000All my girlfriends are posting photos of Marilyn Monroe, being like, you know, always show up two hours late, keep a man waiting.
01:03:31.000I'm like, this woman is a fucking asshole.
01:03:34.000She's a slob, and she's not my Gloria Steinem.
01:03:38.000And I was just like, oh, they're going to say I don't like women, and I'm shaming, slut-shaming.
01:03:43.000I was just like, it's not even fucking worth it.
01:06:39.000And then you would try to ignore the girl.
01:06:41.000It was this whole thing where you're supposed to be mean to her to make her like you or some shit.
01:06:45.000Yeah, well that works on really vulnerable people.
01:06:48.000And pretty girls who are used to compliments and used to getting a lot of attention.
01:06:52.000Well, for men that are ignored and that have faced rejection over and over and over again, they view women as, if not the enemy, as some source of negative feelings, right?
01:07:07.000And for you to get over on them would be to get some of that back.
01:07:19.000Over the time that I knew him, I met him when he was in his 20s and as time went on into his 30s, he became more and more bitter and angry because he wasn't very attractive.
01:07:29.000And he would have these interactions with women and they would wind up dumping him or abusing him.
01:07:43.000He associated them with pain and emotional discomfort.
01:07:46.000And so for a guy like that, he wasn't into the game or anything like that.
01:07:50.000But for some of those guys that are vulnerable, like this incel thing.
01:07:55.000A lot of these men, involuntary celibates, they develop these forum groups and subreddits, and they meet up and talk about what to do, and maybe I'll get facial surgery.
01:09:26.000Yeah, I used to have a whole bit about them, the coyotes.
01:09:30.000Because they were like, they would prey on these guys.
01:09:32.000I was hanging out once with me and a friend of mine, and we heard this conversation between this fat, balding guy and this really pretty girl with big tits.
01:10:01.000That's what I felt like, because these women would have this feral look in their eyes.
01:10:05.000Like, when you're down to fucking people for money, and that's how you're getting by, and you've got some cocaine in your purse, maybe a few dollars, and you probably don't eat well, and you don't have a lot of money, and whatever money you do have...
01:10:18.000He's spending on drugs or whatever, and there's a feeling that you get when you're around them, like they're feral.
01:14:53.000Which is kind of, this might interest you.
01:14:56.000I was learning, because I had all kinds of shit, and the way that they make boobs look good is, because I think I heard you talking about someone about the shitty old breast implants.
01:15:06.000The way they make them good now is that they put you on like a crucifix.
01:15:25.000But so I admit what I have, you know, but it is alarming because it does feel like female comedians, a couple of famous ones that we know when they age, went down that route.
01:15:35.000I don't know if it's like the same thing that got you into comedy, it's the same thing that made you think you had to do that.
01:15:40.000I've read a lot of stuff about childhood sexual abuse.
01:15:42.000When people go really off the grid with their face, that's like a type of dysmorphia.
01:15:47.000Or a lot of psychologists have said, because I've talked to a therapist whose job is in dysmorphia to advise on whether another surgery should be done by somebody, like if they're getting dysmorphic.
01:15:59.000And a lot of times, if you've had childhood sexual abuse, you want to change your face so that you don't see the person in the mirror that got a bit.
01:16:07.000Well, that's the Michael Jackson thing.
01:17:55.000They want a skinny girl that just looks good, sashaying down the runway with her bag of bones...
01:18:00.000Which I was reading, and I actually did a whole paper on this when I was in college about actually the reason that fashion had such tiny models is because there was a shortage on fabric during World War II. So they just started making dresses smaller and then models skinnier.
01:18:15.000It wasn't even really something that we wanted.
01:19:16.000And then I was on tour, and this is, I mean, there's some stuff in the special that I'm sure, like, blogs are going to come at me for, but, you know, I was going around talking about all the stuff happening in the news and sexual harassment stuff and getting your ass grabbed at work.
01:19:27.000And one time I was in Houston and this woman just yelled out, I was like, a guy that grabs you on the ass, she went, take the compliment and move on!
01:19:54.000Because you have three different, completely different worlds.
01:19:57.000But we are in our little echo chamber, and it just feels so much bigger than it is when you go out in the world, and you're like, oh, you guys just want to fucking laugh.
01:20:14.000I think what's happening right now is...
01:20:18.000Okay, if you say something, and you have a certain intent, and that intent is not accurately expressed by the sounds you're making with your mouth, I can choose to get mad.
01:20:28.000But if I can read what you're thinking, then I know what your intent is.
01:20:33.000But it used to be we'd be able to tell.
01:20:35.000I'd be able to read your face and go, oh, Joe's joking.
01:20:37.000Because we're right in front of each other.
01:23:48.000And the audience wouldn't even know what to do, but that's something he was so fucking unbelievable at.
01:23:54.000Greg and I were on TV at the same time, and we were right next to each other on the lot at Gower, Sunset and Gower.
01:24:00.000I was on news radio, and he had his own show for a bit, and his show was right next to my show, and we would hang out.
01:24:08.000Because we're both guys from New York, more from the East Coast at least, that were doing comedy and we're out here thinking, oh, this is crazy.
01:24:16.000And I never thought he would die like that.
01:24:19.000When he died of a drug overdose, I was like, Greg?
01:26:38.000If anybody thinks that Eddie Murphy should do stand-up again, it's me.
01:26:41.000And I've even talked about on this podcast that he did some speech on a podium where he was talking about how bad Bill Cosby fucked up because he had to give his awards back.
01:29:41.000But have you ever seen the videos of Kubrick directing Shelley Law and all the stories about how he terrorized her throughout the production to get her into a...
01:30:38.000I mean, there's also, there's a director who, there was an explosion in a movie, and the actor, you know, it's a fake explosion, and you're going, ah!
01:30:46.000And then one take, he was like, just make it real.
01:31:03.000He's just a smart dude, and he just asked me to do a little guest spot, and I had to play a flight attendant in the 50s who was getting sexually harassed.
01:31:46.000And I was in there, and it felt very much, everyone was like, okay, whatever you feel comfortable with.
01:31:51.000And I was like, no, we have to do, we have to make this feel uncomfortable, you know?
01:31:55.000Like, don't worry about my feelings right now, you know?
01:31:57.000It's like, you know, so there is just this conversation about, like, a no-hostile-work environment, and everyone needs to feel emotionally safe, like...
01:33:21.000You know, but I do think when Daniel Day-Lewis is like, call me Mr. Lincoln or nobody talk to me, it might just be his way of being like, just fucking stop asking me if I want hummus.
01:33:29.000Like, just let me fucking focus, you know?
01:33:32.000But I think for, like, really intense roles, which I've never done, so I'm just completely talking out of my ass, I would think that you might have to maintain some really crazy state of mind to get there.
01:34:36.000But I'm sure it's different for everyone, but I do think though sometimes, you know, you've been on sets, like if you have to do a scene with somebody where you're screaming and you hate each other, if you're hanging out all day on Instagram, it's just like, it's hard to unfake like chemistry or knowing someone.
01:34:50.000So I just think it's interesting, like, you know, Stanley Kubrick probably would be canceled today.
01:35:10.000Like, a complex calculus and stuff like that.
01:35:13.000He would do shit where he would, I think on Eyes Wide Shut, he did, like, do 80 takes of Tom Cruise walking through the door and then I'll show up.
01:36:47.000You know that movie, Stephen King didn't like that movie?
01:36:49.000Well, that's why they say that the car on the road that's crashed on the road, there's a red car in the beginning of the movie that's crashed on the side of the road.
01:36:56.000And in Stephen King's version, there was a red car, so Kubrick crashed that car and then it was a yellow car.
01:37:02.000So he actually put shit in the movie to like troll Stephen King, which is kind of amazing.
01:37:38.000I mean, there's a whole documentary about this, but that the carpet, when the kid is riding the bicycle around the carpet, that he shot it both ways and intercut them so the continuity's not working and it just makes you feel...
01:37:59.000He was an actor, and he was acting in something that Kubrick did, and Kubrick wound up hiring him as an assistant, and then he just did all Kubrick's movies and hung out with him all the time.
01:42:19.000He was, I mean, besides depression, he was terrified that he was going to get dragged through the mud because he had paid off that boy who his girlfriend had fucked.
01:42:29.000And he had been so prominently defending women and going after Harvey Weinstein in this whole Me Too movement thing.
01:42:39.000And then all of a sudden he was this great hypocrite because his girl had sexually molested a 17-year-old kid.
01:49:37.000I think we're going to look back and the same way we look at Caligula and Nero and we're like, oh, they used to just have lions fight elephants for entertainment.
01:49:44.000Now we're going to look back and go, remember when we used to like take selfies with bears and ride elephants?
01:49:49.000Well, in the future, you're just going to be able to blink and you're going to have a picture of things.
01:49:52.000I think that's ultimately one of the ways they're going to get us.
01:49:55.000This Elon Musk thing is kind of interesting because they're trying to put these little fibers in your brain and you'll have some sort of Bluetooth link that increases your bandwidth with the internet.
01:50:05.000But I think the way they're going to get us is a hard drive that replaces your memory.
01:50:47.000So people, when they're molested when they're young, that's one of the things that they have hypnotic regression and then they remember it.
01:51:26.000That's the one thing about that that's alarming to me.
01:51:28.000But our memories are so flawed and there's this amazing neurologist in New York called Moran Cerf and he's got a bunch of shit on TED Talks and stuff.
01:51:36.000And I went to this lecture he did in New York about how our memories essentially were like comics.
01:51:43.000Like, we punch up the parts of stories that get the bigger responses.
01:52:06.000Didn't I tell you about there was a time that I was in Portland with somebody and they were like, Joe Rogan, him and I got in a car accident in high school.
01:52:14.000And remember, I texted you about it and you're like, that never happened.
01:53:00.000It's super common with old cars, especially if you're You don't have good tires.
01:53:04.000But I had a friend that came up to me, or he told another friend of mine about a fight that we had gotten into where I kicked somebody or something like that.
01:53:27.000It's basically like the guy that Becker, Ernest Becker, this is my dad died a couple years ago and I hadn't really had a lot of death and I started kind of just, I started getting into, and you called it too one time, one day you were like, you're doing too much shit.
01:53:45.000And I didn't realize, like, when you have death and you're—basically, terror management theory is—this is something you know, of course, but that because we have a prefrontal cortex and we're basically the only animal that can ponder the future and the past, like, we know we're going to die.
01:54:12.000In order to have a sense of immortality, right?
01:54:16.000It's basically just managing the anxiety of knowing that we're rotting every day.
01:54:20.000It's just dying and could die at any moment.
01:54:23.000It's just like a false sense of control and longevity.
01:54:27.000There's a great book called The Worm in the Hole, Solomon, something Solomon.
01:54:31.000I read this book and it totally blew my mind because I realized so many of my behaviors were just about this fear of death because it had been sort of right in front of me so quickly.
01:54:38.000And his death was so freak that I had a really hard time coping with the anxiety of death coming so suddenly and so shockingly and it fucked me up pretty bad.
01:54:50.000But I started just making myself busy with super irrelevant shit in order to try to cope with that anxiety.
01:54:58.000And so I got super into terror management theory.
01:55:16.000Terror Management Theory is a little bit controversial, I think, because it also justifies some, like, supremacy thinking, a lot of I'm better than you and, like, cultural...
01:55:30.000There's a guy named Solomon that did a talk about it just because you need so badly to feel important that you start to sort of have the delusion that you're better than other people.
01:55:39.000Just because you feel so insignificant because you know you're going to die.
01:56:02.000And, you know what I mean, to procreate the idea of, because we know our mortality is so present in our amygdala all day, every day, that I'm better than you, therefore I'm going to procreate more and we are going to sustain and propagate.
01:57:36.000And you would normally go, beautiful woods, nature, and they always pick cities because you just subconsciously felt more scared and wanted to be in a place that was safer.
02:02:13.000But there's a lot of songs over the last year that have gotten popular off there, including like Old Town Road, which is the number one song now.
02:10:52.000You'll be able to see how many likes you have on your photos.
02:10:54.000But you're going to screen grab it and post it?
02:10:58.000What I'll do is I'll post something in the morning and then three times throughout the day I'll post it to see how many likes I got so everybody can see.
02:11:27.000But it's interesting because it clearly reflects my lack of interaction because, like, I only have two million Facebook followers, whereas, like, everything else is way more than that.
02:11:37.000Well, that's the whole engagement thing now.
02:11:39.000So there was this, I, social media, it's a full-time job, so I was talking to a bunch of people to run my social media, and they're like, well, you have to engage people to get in the algorithm now.
02:11:48.000You have to ask a question so that people, like, you notice that celebrities for a while kept going, like, so what are you doing this weekend?