The Joe Rogan Experience - September 20, 2019


Joe Rogan Experience #1355 - Mark Normand


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 21 minutes

Words per Minute

205.94595

Word Count

41,529

Sentence Count

5,038

Misogynist Sentences

149


Summary

In this episode, the boys talk about a wide range of topics, from the early days of stand-up comedy, to their favorite ACDC songs, and everything in between. We also have a special guest on the show this week, our good friend and friend of the show, Jamie, who happens to be a comedian, comedian, writer, podcaster, and all-around funny guy. We hope you enjoy this episode and that you enjoy it as much as we enjoyed making it! Stay tuned for Part 2 of this episode next week where we talk about our favorite movies and tv shows, as well as our favorite pratfalls and other things we like to talk about. Stay tuned, stay tuned, and stay safe out there in the world of comedy and music! -The Guys Who Know Best (feat. Dave Chappelle) Music: "Goodbye Outer Space" by Fletch & The Wangerys Art: Mackenzie Moore Editor: Will Witwer Logo by Ian Dorsch Theme Music: Jeff Kaale ( ) Music: Hayden Coplen ( ) Editor: Christian Blumberg ( ) Additional Compositions: Willy Wonka & The Goodfellows ( ) Art: Ben Bateman ( ) Thank you to our sponsor, and ( ) for making this episode so beautiful! Thank you so much for coming to us with your support and making us a safe space to record this episode. We appreciate you guys. Thank you for being a safe, positive vibes, support us, and support us in any way possible, we really appreciate you. We really appreciate it. We can't thank you, you're amazing, we appreciate you, and we're grateful you're listening, we're so much, we can't do it, we love you, we'll send you back, Thank you, thank you back and we'll see you, back, we won't stop sending us back, more of you, more than we can do you, so we'll keep you, ya'll'll, more and more, more, we truly appreciate it, more in the next week, more & more, bye bye, bye. -Merry Christmas, bye! xoxo, bye, Kristy, bye <3 -JOSH, JOSH & JUICY -P.J. ( ) -PJ & GABY


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Penn Jillette said that.
00:00:02.000 Penn Jillette told you that it's fort, not forte?
00:00:04.000 Yeah, and he's, you know, I don't fuck with it.
00:00:06.000 He's a well-read man.
00:00:07.000 Oh, yeah.
00:00:08.000 He's, uh, he was just on.
00:00:10.000 Oh, yeah.
00:00:11.000 He's an interesting cat.
00:00:11.000 Is that true?
00:00:12.000 Is he correct, Jamie?
00:00:14.000 There's a little thing over the ear, right?
00:00:15.000 There's two pronunciations.
00:00:16.000 One is forte, like, yeah.
00:00:19.000 Well, that's like the word literally.
00:00:20.000 You know, the term literally has, we've actually changed the meaning because so many people used it wrong.
00:00:26.000 Okay, forte.
00:00:28.000 Forte with the A right there.
00:00:31.000 Uh-huh.
00:00:32.000 I don't know.
00:00:33.000 Well, the A is first.
00:00:34.000 And fort.
00:00:35.000 So there's two different ones.
00:00:39.000 But it might be like Selfie, how it just creates itself over a while, you know?
00:00:42.000 Yeah, a thing that someone excels at.
00:00:44.000 Smalltalk was not his Fort A, or Fort.
00:00:49.000 Well, maybe Fort was original, and then someone kept fucking it up, like Tumeric.
00:00:54.000 Yeah, Turmeric.
00:00:56.000 Yeah.
00:00:57.000 We were just talking about how Tumeric has an R in there.
00:01:01.000 It's T-U-R, which I didn't know at all until...
00:01:07.000 Laird Hamilton put his coffee machine in here.
00:01:09.000 Did you just turn the volume down?
00:01:10.000 Oh, sorry.
00:01:11.000 Is that my mic?
00:01:12.000 My cans are a little hot.
00:01:15.000 I'll turn it down.
00:01:15.000 I appreciate it, sir.
00:01:16.000 Is that better?
00:01:17.000 Yeah, I gotta touch your stuff.
00:01:19.000 I get crazy ears.
00:01:21.000 Pat Carney likes to hear himself loud when he talks shit.
00:01:23.000 He's got some hearing problems.
00:01:26.000 He's a drummer.
00:01:27.000 Oh, yeah.
00:01:28.000 Rockstar, drummer.
00:01:29.000 All those guys go deaf, right?
00:01:30.000 Yeah.
00:01:30.000 Or they have issues.
00:01:31.000 Well, that's the dude from ACDC, the lead singer.
00:01:34.000 He can't sing anymore, right?
00:01:36.000 Because his ears are just shot.
00:01:38.000 That's awful, man.
00:01:39.000 Yeah.
00:01:40.000 Every song sounds the same.
00:01:42.000 They're the best.
00:01:43.000 I don't know about the best.
00:01:44.000 Come on, bro.
00:01:45.000 I mean, I like them.
00:01:46.000 The fucking best.
00:01:47.000 I don't know about the best.
00:01:48.000 Well, they are an iconic band.
00:01:51.000 I'll give you that.
00:01:52.000 There's songs.
00:01:53.000 There's certain songs.
00:01:53.000 I'm on my high.
00:01:56.000 Yeah, they're great road trip video game songs, but I feel like they kind of bleed together.
00:02:02.000 A little bit.
00:02:03.000 There's a sound.
00:02:04.000 They have an ACDC sound, for sure.
00:02:07.000 Sure.
00:02:07.000 Oh, yeah.
00:02:08.000 It's all one sound.
00:02:10.000 Yeah.
00:02:11.000 But, you know.
00:02:12.000 But back to turmeric.
00:02:14.000 Can I say that...
00:02:16.000 You know how, like, the Middle East, there's not a lot of funny people out there?
00:02:19.000 There's not a big part of their culture is comedy in the Middle East.
00:02:23.000 And Seinfeld thinks it's because we have a love of language.
00:02:27.000 He thinks that's why Americans and British people are really funny.
00:02:30.000 Because we think about the words.
00:02:34.000 I don't think they're...
00:02:35.000 Same with German.
00:02:36.000 Not a lot of German ha-ha.
00:02:38.000 You know what I mean?
00:02:38.000 We had a German comic that was big in Germany that came to the store and was here for a couple of years.
00:02:44.000 Did he suck?
00:02:45.000 He didn't suck, but it was all physical.
00:02:48.000 Exactly.
00:02:49.000 In Germany, he's huge, but it was all like slipping on stage and pratfalls.
00:02:54.000 Yeah, come on.
00:02:55.000 We can do better than that.
00:02:56.000 We got words.
00:02:57.000 The words are the interesting part.
00:02:59.000 What you say, the writing.
00:03:00.000 You know what's a thing that people don't consider?
00:03:02.000 Those pratfall guys are always in pain.
00:03:05.000 They're always hurt.
00:03:06.000 That's true.
00:03:07.000 Well, so are we mentally.
00:03:09.000 Yeah, but in a physical way.
00:03:10.000 I think I was always wondering about Chevy Chase.
00:03:12.000 Because you know Chevy Chase is supposed to be kind of grumpy?
00:03:14.000 Yeah.
00:03:15.000 I've heard that.
00:03:16.000 Yeah.
00:03:16.000 I've heard he's a dick.
00:03:17.000 I've heard he gets real grumpy.
00:03:19.000 And I wonder if the dude is just in constant pain.
00:03:22.000 Because, you know, remember how many times he used to fall down?
00:03:25.000 Like, he fell down all the time on Saturday Night Live.
00:03:28.000 Did he?
00:03:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:03:29.000 In Fletch, the detective movie.
00:03:32.000 Yeah, yeah, I remember.
00:03:33.000 He prat-falled all the time, like, wicked hard falls, where it was clearly him.
00:03:39.000 Wow, I didn't know he was a fall guy.
00:03:40.000 You know, Buster Keaton, he's like so underrated.
00:03:44.000 He broke his back and didn't realize it, and the doctor was like, so when did you break your back?
00:03:48.000 He's got that crazy story.
00:03:50.000 Like, that guy fell all day long.
00:03:53.000 I think it was his neck, in fact.
00:03:54.000 Was it neck?
00:03:55.000 Was it neck?
00:03:56.000 Someone just brought this up on the show, didn't they, Jamie?
00:03:59.000 Didn't somebody just talk about that?
00:04:01.000 It was just a few episodes ago, I believe.
00:04:02.000 Oh, maybe, but he's like not really brought up a lot.
00:04:05.000 He's fucking crazy how ballsy he was and how innovative he was.
00:04:09.000 He would do stuff, like he would draw, I remember one of his gags, he would paint on a wall a hook and then hang his hat on it.
00:04:15.000 Yeah, this is yours.
00:04:17.000 Who brought it up, Jamie?
00:04:18.000 Was it Penn?
00:04:19.000 It might have been Patton.
00:04:20.000 It might have been him or maybe Gaffigan.
00:04:22.000 Look at that.
00:04:23.000 I mean, it's all bits.
00:04:24.000 That's clever shit.
00:04:25.000 That's amazing shit.
00:04:27.000 This is like 19, what, 24?
00:04:29.000 Yeah, I mean, just right there was amazing.
00:04:31.000 Yeah.
00:04:31.000 Jumping through that person.
00:04:33.000 I mean, you could do this all day.
00:04:34.000 It's all clever and it's all redone a million times, but he did it first.
00:04:38.000 Wow.
00:04:38.000 And there was no one before him, right?
00:04:40.000 No.
00:04:41.000 So there's no guidebook.
00:04:43.000 Yeah, and everything ends in a punch.
00:04:44.000 It always pays off.
00:04:46.000 There's no weak ones.
00:04:48.000 And he just, sometimes he would just try it.
00:04:51.000 And I heard an interview with him and he was like, yeah, I would just go for it.
00:04:53.000 And sometimes he would be in midair and you'd think of another thing.
00:04:56.000 And then you'd do that before you hit the ground.
00:04:58.000 I mean, brilliant guy.
00:05:00.000 Check him out if you don't know him.
00:05:02.000 Right now, we're watching a video of him running over the top of a train.
00:05:06.000 He's clearly really doing it.
00:05:07.000 Yeah, he's really doing it.
00:05:08.000 He's going to do something with that hook.
00:05:09.000 There it is!
00:05:10.000 Wait for it!
00:05:11.000 Wait for it!
00:05:13.000 Come on!
00:05:15.000 The water is what broke his neck.
00:05:16.000 No!
00:05:17.000 That's right.
00:05:18.000 Is that right?
00:05:18.000 That's what the video says.
00:05:19.000 Yeah, he underestimated the force of the water coming out of it.
00:05:23.000 Think about how much weight...
00:05:25.000 There is.
00:05:25.000 Right.
00:05:26.000 Behind that water.
00:05:27.000 I mean, it's like waterfalls.
00:05:29.000 Yeah.
00:05:29.000 Like, if you jumped off of the Niagara Falls and hit the bottom, what would kill you?
00:05:33.000 I mean, it might just be the force of the water hitting you against the rocks.
00:05:37.000 Right, right.
00:05:37.000 Because I think that's what happened with him.
00:05:39.000 Like, he got hit so hard.
00:05:40.000 I believe it was Penn.
00:05:42.000 It might have been.
00:05:43.000 I can double check.
00:05:44.000 Yeah.
00:05:44.000 But whoever it was.
00:05:46.000 Well, they were just explaining there was the weight of the water he underestimated.
00:05:51.000 That kind of kills the whole fucking in the waterfall scenes in every movie.
00:05:54.000 Dude, it does.
00:05:55.000 That would ruin it.
00:05:57.000 You'd get pummeled.
00:05:58.000 Imagine, like, you're headed up there and it's your idea and she slips and bashes her brains out against the rocks just because it was your stupid idea.
00:06:06.000 She's like, let's just do it right here.
00:06:08.000 Right.
00:06:08.000 No, let's go into the waterfall.
00:06:10.000 And you're so stupid, you don't understand how much force is coming down.
00:06:13.000 Yeah.
00:06:13.000 Yeah, that was a hot scene in Cocktail.
00:06:15.000 Was it?
00:06:16.000 Oh, yeah.
00:06:17.000 I believe it was Elizabeth Shue.
00:06:18.000 They fucking the Jamaican waterfall.
00:06:21.000 I'm a big...
00:06:21.000 I had no cable as a kid, so we would just watch everything that came on.
00:06:26.000 Do you remember that movie with Elizabeth Shue and Nicolas Cage?
00:06:30.000 Leaving Las Vegas?
00:06:31.000 Yeah, of course.
00:06:32.000 And gets a boner at the very end.
00:06:34.000 Of course.
00:06:35.000 What?
00:06:37.000 That's a good drunk guy thing.
00:06:39.000 I mean, those random drunk boners.
00:06:41.000 We've all been there.
00:06:42.000 Here it is.
00:06:43.000 Cocktail scene.
00:06:44.000 There it is.
00:06:45.000 Waterfall.
00:06:45.000 This is my whole childhood.
00:06:47.000 Just these weird 80s movies on VHS. They were weird.
00:06:52.000 Somebody raised a good point about how we have so many options.
00:06:55.000 I'm dating a lady who's a little younger than me.
00:06:57.000 She's about 14. I'll bring up a movie like Ghostbusters.
00:07:02.000 She's like, never seen it.
00:07:03.000 Godfather, never seen it.
00:07:03.000 I'm like, don't you care?
00:07:06.000 Don't you want to see that?
00:07:07.000 She's like, I've never seen it.
00:07:08.000 It came out before my time.
00:07:10.000 I'm like, yeah, but I know about the 70s and the 60s.
00:07:13.000 Why do I know about that?
00:07:15.000 I know about Buster Keaton.
00:07:17.000 Why do younger people now?
00:07:19.000 They only go forward.
00:07:20.000 They don't go back at all.
00:07:22.000 Have you noticed that?
00:07:23.000 Yeah, I think they're inundated with too much stuff.
00:07:25.000 I guess so.
00:07:26.000 Think about it.
00:07:26.000 They got Hulu.
00:07:27.000 They got Amazon.
00:07:28.000 They got Netflix.
00:07:29.000 They're streaming things constantly.
00:07:31.000 They're doing TikTok and Instagram, and everybody's checking social media to force a kid to sit down and watch National Lampoon's Family Vacation.
00:07:40.000 Good luck.
00:07:41.000 I know, but it's good.
00:07:42.000 It's great.
00:07:43.000 It's great.
00:07:44.000 I don't think they do that as much.
00:07:46.000 Yeah.
00:07:46.000 I think a lot of kids are playing video games.
00:07:48.000 Sure.
00:07:49.000 And they're streaming things.
00:07:51.000 And YouTube is giant for them.
00:07:53.000 Yeah, it's fast.
00:07:54.000 Giant.
00:07:54.000 You can never suck it all up.
00:07:56.000 But here's the clinker is they're missing out on a lot.
00:08:00.000 I watched The Office with her and she's missing references to a fucking Indiana Jones joke.
00:08:04.000 And I'm like, you like this show, but you know, you missed that joke.
00:08:10.000 And then I gotta explain it to her, and she's like, who's that?
00:08:12.000 I'm like, it's Harrison Ford.
00:08:13.000 He was a this.
00:08:14.000 He was an archaeologist.
00:08:15.000 She's like, archaeology?
00:08:16.000 That sounds terrible.
00:08:16.000 I'm like, no, it was fun.
00:08:18.000 My nine-year-old watches these little videos on YouTube where they blend things.
00:08:25.000 These kids get together and they're silly and they're laughing.
00:08:27.000 It's so dumb.
00:08:28.000 And they blend things.
00:08:29.000 But it's dumb because I'm 52. Right.
00:08:31.000 If I was nine, it would be awesome.
00:08:33.000 Like, for her, it's awesome.
00:08:34.000 Like, she's really enjoying it.
00:08:35.000 She's laughing.
00:08:36.000 It's like, it's not fake laughing.
00:08:38.000 She watches them whether or not you tell her to or not.
00:08:41.000 She's interested in it.
00:08:42.000 Like, in a blender?
00:08:43.000 Yeah, they just throw food in a blender and try to drink it.
00:08:45.000 Wow.
00:08:46.000 It was so...
00:08:47.000 It was so dumb.
00:08:47.000 That's it?
00:08:48.000 It's so dumb.
00:08:48.000 And they're being silly, and things slip out of their hands, and then they show a slow-mo of the things slipping out of their hand.
00:08:55.000 It is inane.
00:08:57.000 It's just made for nine-year-olds by people who are odd and 18 and 19. And I bet it's got millions of views.
00:09:04.000 Millions of views.
00:09:05.000 You can't predict.
00:09:07.000 I'm trying to write the best joke ever, put this video out.
00:09:09.000 This is the funniest video!
00:09:11.000 Nobody cares, and then you fart on a taco salad, and that goes viral.
00:09:15.000 Well, do you know the makeup artist drama that took place on YouTube?
00:09:20.000 Do you know about all that?
00:09:21.000 No.
00:09:21.000 I got rubbed into that, too, because of my kids.
00:09:23.000 That's good, though.
00:09:24.000 You're seeing new shit.
00:09:25.000 Yes.
00:09:25.000 There's this young homosexual fellow who has makeup tutorials, and he got into some sort of a public scrap with his mentor.
00:09:35.000 James?
00:09:36.000 Yes.
00:09:36.000 Something?
00:09:37.000 I did hear about this.
00:09:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:39.000 This guy.
00:09:40.000 Wow, he's good.
00:09:41.000 Wow.
00:09:41.000 Look, the videos are fucking entertaining.
00:09:44.000 It's quite hilarious.
00:09:45.000 And he got in a scrap with that person, right?
00:09:49.000 Yes.
00:09:49.000 And, you know, it was a lot of terrible things were said.
00:09:54.000 But it was, I had, you know, I'm like, what is happening here?
00:09:57.000 So I'm like, what does he do?
00:09:59.000 He does makeup tutorials, and I'm watching his makeup tutorials.
00:10:02.000 They're oddly entertaining.
00:10:03.000 Yeah.
00:10:04.000 Well, if it's impressive, anything is good, you know?
00:10:07.000 But the thing is, like, networks missed...
00:10:11.000 Sloppy, but entertaining.
00:10:12.000 They missed that.
00:10:14.000 Everything was done well.
00:10:16.000 Everything ended with a laugh track.
00:10:18.000 Right.
00:10:19.000 They missed.
00:10:20.000 There's a whole avenue.
00:10:22.000 Good call.
00:10:23.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:10:23.000 Yeah, well look at me.
00:10:24.000 I'm on the fucking Fallon.
00:10:25.000 I'm wearing a suit.
00:10:26.000 I don't wear a suit, but they make you wear one.
00:10:28.000 Yeah, they make you wear one.
00:10:30.000 They take the gritty off of everything, and the gritty's the good.
00:10:33.000 Well, you is the good.
00:10:34.000 The who you really are is the good.
00:10:35.000 Who you really are, yeah.
00:10:36.000 Who you really are, yeah.
00:10:37.000 When you want someone to conform, at least aesthetically, to who you'd like them to be, like, what are we doing here?
00:10:43.000 It's all shit.
00:10:44.000 Let the guy wear a fucking t-shirt.
00:10:45.000 Who gives a shit?
00:10:46.000 Right.
00:10:46.000 Why does it matter?
00:10:47.000 We should have learned that when, remember when you were kidding, bloopers came on?
00:10:50.000 It was the fucking greatest thing ever.
00:10:52.000 Yes, yes.
00:10:53.000 But we went, ah, they're bloopers.
00:10:54.000 What are you going to do?
00:10:55.000 But that was, we should have held on to that.
00:10:57.000 We should have gone towards the bloop.
00:10:58.000 Well, America's Funniest Home Videos was the original YouTube.
00:11:01.000 That's right!
00:11:02.000 Right?
00:11:03.000 Kicked in the balls by a Shetland pony.
00:11:05.000 I mean, that was it.
00:11:06.000 Yeah.
00:11:08.000 That's what everybody realized they wanted to see people get kicked by animals.
00:11:12.000 The way they run the show now, you submit a YouTube link to them, and they just take it from YouTube and put it on the show.
00:11:17.000 Wow.
00:11:18.000 It's still on TV. It's on TV, but it's YouTube clips.
00:11:21.000 Yeah.
00:11:21.000 That's hilarious.
00:11:22.000 They just gave up.
00:11:22.000 They tapped out.
00:11:24.000 They gave in to their maker.
00:11:27.000 That's hilarious.
00:11:28.000 They tapped.
00:11:29.000 Remember, that was Danny Tanner, who was a dirty comic.
00:11:32.000 Or not Bob Saget, sorry.
00:11:35.000 Yeah, but that's the stage name, right?
00:11:36.000 That was his name in the show, wasn't it?
00:11:38.000 That was his full house name.
00:11:39.000 The full house name.
00:11:40.000 Yeah, Saget was a dirty comic.
00:11:41.000 Yeah, filthy.
00:11:42.000 Still is.
00:11:43.000 I mean, he is now.
00:11:44.000 But I think he probably had to take some time off while he was doing the show, right?
00:11:48.000 He didn't do any specials or anything.
00:11:50.000 Remember America's Funniest People?
00:11:51.000 What was the difference?
00:11:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:11:54.000 It's a spinoff.
00:11:55.000 They needed more time slots to dominate.
00:11:58.000 Yeah, they were probably getting tons and tons of tapes.
00:12:00.000 They had to put them on another show.
00:12:01.000 They have animal ones too, right?
00:12:03.000 The difference is that's why they can't compete with YouTube.
00:12:05.000 Because YouTube shows nine-year-old girls getting launched into the air by bison in Yellowstone Park.
00:12:10.000 Like, really getting launched.
00:12:12.000 Yeah.
00:12:12.000 And you're like, holy fuck!
00:12:14.000 Yeah, this is the TV unclean version.
00:12:17.000 It's a guy getting hit by a car or, you know, knife wound fist fight.
00:12:21.000 You can watch all sorts of, like, cartel shootouts on YouTube.
00:12:26.000 But yeah, you can't say, you know, some weird...
00:12:30.000 Right-wing joke.
00:12:31.000 Isn't that funny how it's the words we're all about now?
00:12:33.000 Like, that's what I never got about.
00:12:34.000 Like, if I do a pedophilia joke, everybody's up my ass.
00:12:38.000 But we'll all get around the campfire to watch the Michael Jackson doc.
00:12:42.000 Yeah.
00:12:43.000 Like, that happened.
00:12:44.000 He's talking about splitting a kid's ass cheek apart, and everybody's like, this is crazy.
00:12:48.000 But the joke that some comic tells bothers people.
00:12:52.000 I find that odd.
00:12:53.000 Well, I think both those things bother people, for sure.
00:12:55.000 I mean, the reason why the documentary was made was because people were bothered by it.
00:12:59.000 I know, but they're excited to watch.
00:13:01.000 It's like a cultural phenomenon.
00:13:03.000 We're like, this is going to be a big show tonight.
00:13:06.000 Popcorn.
00:13:06.000 We know something was really wrong with Michael Jackson.
00:13:12.000 Something was really wrong.
00:13:14.000 There was never anybody quite like him.
00:13:16.000 That was from a tiny little boy.
00:13:19.000 How old was Elvis when he got famous?
00:13:22.000 Probably like 20 or something.
00:13:23.000 Yeah, maybe later.
00:13:25.000 And that was probably the biggest thing that had ever happened in pop music before Michael Jackson.
00:13:31.000 But Michael Jackson was the first that we ever saw that was a baby.
00:13:35.000 When he was on ABC, it's easy as one, two...
00:13:39.000 He was a little kid.
00:13:40.000 He was dancing around with his beautiful afro, and then we watched him become a grown man, one of the biggest superstars in the world, and we watched him go insane.
00:13:48.000 Sure.
00:13:49.000 We knew...
00:13:49.000 Anybody who got that much plastic surgery, you know they're insane.
00:13:53.000 You know something's really wrong.
00:13:54.000 Yeah.
00:13:55.000 So we all knew it.
00:13:56.000 So when the sex accusations, the pedophilia accusations happen, of course everyone's going to want to tune in.
00:14:02.000 It's not like, you know...
00:14:05.000 It's a human oddity as much as it is celebrity gossip.
00:14:11.000 Agreed.
00:14:12.000 But what is it about jokes that really bother people?
00:14:14.000 More than a movie.
00:14:16.000 You know, you could have a movie rape, but about a joke, you could really graphically show the rape.
00:14:22.000 Yes.
00:14:22.000 Everything.
00:14:23.000 The whole thing's acted out?
00:14:24.000 In a movie.
00:14:36.000 I don't know.
00:14:37.000 I'm not a big rape joke guy.
00:14:41.000 I'm just saying it's weird.
00:14:42.000 There's something about jokes that really crawls up people's sphincter and pisses them off.
00:14:48.000 One of the things is it sounds like you're just talking.
00:14:50.000 If you got a movie, and in the movie you play some serial killer, and they...
00:14:58.000 You know, prepared the scene for you.
00:15:00.000 You're ready.
00:15:01.000 You're wearing the clothes they told you to wear.
00:15:03.000 You're doing the lines in the script.
00:15:05.000 We all agree this is a dramatic interpretation.
00:15:09.000 I don't know what you're doing when you're doing stand-up.
00:15:11.000 Some people are just doing satire, right?
00:15:14.000 Like some people are pretending to be racist, pretending to be a Republican asshole.
00:15:19.000 But it's just a character.
00:15:21.000 There's a bunch of guys who do stuff like that.
00:15:23.000 Or some people are, you know, some people are sarcastic.
00:15:26.000 Some people are like Jeselnik.
00:15:28.000 They say the worst shit, and it's always hilarious.
00:15:31.000 I love him.
00:15:32.000 I love him too.
00:15:32.000 And what he's doing is, that's not who he is.
00:15:35.000 These are great jokes.
00:15:37.000 Yeah.
00:15:37.000 You know, he's not really lighting the maternity ward on fire.
00:15:41.000 It's just the name of his special, right?
00:15:43.000 It's like, so there's a bunch of different kinds of, and then there's other people that just fucking tell the truth, man.
00:15:48.000 There's other people, they'll talk about all the weird shit in their personal life, they'll talk about anything.
00:15:53.000 And you go, oh, this is just a funny guy who's great at telling the truth.
00:15:57.000 So it's like when you say they're jokes, but everybody does it different.
00:16:03.000 And the problem is, this is the real problem, for people who aren't stand-ups.
00:16:07.000 We're stand-ups, it makes sense to us.
00:16:09.000 People who are fans of stand-up, it makes sense to them.
00:16:12.000 But to regular folks who are getting mad, it seems like you're just talking.
00:16:15.000 Yeah, but why do we buy the Jeselnik but we don't buy the other guy?
00:16:19.000 Because it's culturally convenient.
00:16:20.000 Yeah.
00:16:21.000 Hmm.
00:16:22.000 What do you mean?
00:16:23.000 Well, some guys are better at it.
00:16:25.000 Some guys, the writing is cleaner and sharper.
00:16:30.000 It's clear it's a joke, is what you're saying.
00:16:33.000 He's preposterous over the line, obviously into joke land.
00:16:37.000 And he's obviously really smart.
00:16:40.000 Like, there's a thing that happens, I think, when someone is really good at writing jokes, where they're giving it to you in a way that you are almost equally impressed with the efficiency of their use of language as you are with the funny in it.
00:16:55.000 You can see the art in it.
00:16:56.000 And Jasenek's a combination of both.
00:16:58.000 He's got the funny, but he also has a very impressive way of setting things up.
00:17:02.000 It's a smart way of setting things up.
00:17:04.000 So you let him get away with more.
00:17:05.000 He's funnier.
00:17:06.000 I agree, but I think there's something also to hiding the technique.
00:17:10.000 You know, he's so technique, he's a technician, he's precise, he's great at it.
00:17:14.000 But I think something about the guy just being loosey-goosey, and you don't even see, oh shit, that was the punch, I didn't even see it coming.
00:17:21.000 No, that's the thing.
00:17:22.000 That's cool too.
00:17:23.000 Oh, it's great too.
00:17:24.000 There's no better way.
00:17:25.000 You know, there's Joey Diaz, who I think is the funniest guy that's ever lived.
00:17:28.000 He's completely loose.
00:17:30.000 Yes.
00:17:30.000 Completely loose.
00:17:32.000 You know?
00:17:32.000 Yeah.
00:17:33.000 But he'll catch these waves.
00:17:36.000 Well, you can't believe it's possible for a person to be any funnier.
00:17:39.000 Right, right.
00:17:40.000 He just hits Joey.
00:17:40.000 Have you ever seen him murder?
00:17:42.000 I've never seen him live.
00:17:42.000 Oh, my God, dude.
00:17:43.000 He always says he's the goat.
00:17:44.000 I'm like, I want to see this goat.
00:17:45.000 He hits these waves where people are just like, shut the fuck up.
00:17:49.000 Where comics in the back of the room are holding themselves.
00:17:52.000 I've seen everybody, man.
00:17:53.000 I've seen everybody kill.
00:17:55.000 Yeah.
00:17:55.000 I've never seen anybody stronger than Joey.
00:17:57.000 Wow.
00:17:57.000 It's just these...
00:17:58.000 It's not...
00:17:59.000 Like, he's a Jessenek-type writer.
00:18:02.000 Sure.
00:18:02.000 Like, if he does a special, it's going to be so polished from the beginning to the end.
00:18:05.000 No, he's trying to find himself in it.
00:18:08.000 But he's got seriously underrated joke-writing ability.
00:18:12.000 Oh, really?
00:18:12.000 His economy of words.
00:18:14.000 And he just says shit.
00:18:15.000 You don't see it coming.
00:18:16.000 And it hits you like a fucking brick.
00:18:18.000 Yeah.
00:18:19.000 And you're like, oh, my God.
00:18:20.000 And, you know...
00:18:21.000 That's what I love.
00:18:23.000 But I love Jessel Nick too.
00:18:25.000 I love Seinfeld.
00:18:27.000 So do I. I love all kinds of comedy.
00:18:30.000 I love the fact that Hedberg had a completely different way of doing it than Santino does.
00:18:36.000 Everybody's got their own thing.
00:18:38.000 I know.
00:18:39.000 It's a cool art.
00:18:40.000 I love it.
00:18:41.000 I love that I'm in it and I love that I'm getting paid to do it.
00:18:43.000 Do you know Andrew Santino?
00:18:45.000 Oh, yeah.
00:18:45.000 He's super conversational.
00:18:47.000 Yes.
00:18:48.000 Like, you almost think that he's just saying this for the first time.
00:18:51.000 He's talking to you like a friend.
00:18:52.000 Like, hey, he's one of those guys where you're at the bar.
00:18:54.000 Like, dude, dude, come here.
00:18:56.000 You know he's a fucking moron.
00:18:58.000 Right.
00:18:58.000 He does have that.
00:18:59.000 He's the guy.
00:18:59.000 He's the guy.
00:19:00.000 And you're like, well, he's your brother, but he's a fucking moron.
00:19:04.000 He's a fucking moron.
00:19:05.000 And then he starts being funny.
00:19:06.000 Right.
00:19:07.000 He's the guy that brings you in like, come on, let's have a drink.
00:19:09.000 Yeah, I wish I had more of that.
00:19:11.000 I'm such a nervous nut that I got to have every word precise.
00:19:16.000 I'm a precision guy.
00:19:16.000 How many years in are you?
00:19:17.000 I'm about 12, 13-ish.
00:19:19.000 Well, that's who you are then.
00:19:20.000 Yeah, that's it.
00:19:22.000 And I'm okay with it.
00:19:22.000 I like it.
00:19:23.000 I've figured it out.
00:19:24.000 It's a great way.
00:19:25.000 You know, when you get it polished down, you know, it's like some of the most impressive stand-up ever.
00:19:30.000 Like, one of my all-time favorites is Richard Jennings.
00:19:32.000 Oh, he's a beast.
00:19:33.000 Oh, my God.
00:19:34.000 Underrated as hell.
00:19:36.000 But he was talking about precise.
00:19:38.000 He always said, I get five minutes a year, maybe.
00:19:40.000 Five good minutes of material a year.
00:19:42.000 That's why he killed himself.
00:19:43.000 I mean, it's brutal.
00:19:44.000 Yeah, he was super precise.
00:19:46.000 He had a bunch of mental demons, unfortunately.
00:19:49.000 Yeah.
00:19:50.000 Don't we all?
00:19:51.000 I ran into him on a plane once.
00:19:52.000 I was coming home from, I think it was Austin.
00:19:54.000 I was doing the club, and he had a corporate gig.
00:19:57.000 We just...
00:19:57.000 I said hi to him.
00:19:59.000 Hey, what's up, Richard?
00:20:00.000 What's up, man?
00:20:00.000 We're talking.
00:20:01.000 I was just right behind him.
00:20:04.000 And...
00:20:05.000 He just seems so fucking bummed out, man.
00:20:08.000 Which is funny because as a young comic, you're like, you're bummed?
00:20:10.000 You're killing it!
00:20:11.000 You're one of the funniest guys ever!
00:20:13.000 You don't get it that they can also be successful and miserable.
00:20:16.000 Well, mental illness is just...
00:20:18.000 It just gets people the same way lung cancer gets people.
00:20:21.000 Sure.
00:20:22.000 The same way polio or, you know, something that you can catch.
00:20:25.000 He was just depressed, man.
00:20:27.000 Like, severely depressed.
00:20:28.000 But goddamn, he was good.
00:20:30.000 I think it was because that was the only time he was ever having fun.
00:20:32.000 It was when he was doing stand-up.
00:20:34.000 Right.
00:20:34.000 Man, I didn't know the guy that well.
00:20:36.000 I only was casual with him a few times, but I was a giant fan.
00:20:40.000 Oh, yeah.
00:20:40.000 I worked at Eastside Comedy Club when I was like...
00:20:44.000 I think I was probably 23-ish, 24. This was my first time making it to New York, and I was doing Long Island.
00:20:51.000 And they told me that Richard Jenny had been there that night, or that weekend, and did two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, each totally different.
00:21:02.000 Ah, that kills me.
00:21:04.000 Dude, it was the hardest thing to hear.
00:21:05.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:21:06.000 I always hear that.
00:21:07.000 Oh, this guy did four different hours.
00:21:08.000 I was like, this is not even possible.
00:21:09.000 I know.
00:21:09.000 How did he do it?
00:21:11.000 Yeah.
00:21:12.000 Everyone was in awe.
00:21:14.000 They were in awe.
00:21:14.000 It was Joey Cola.
00:21:16.000 Oh yeah, he's a funny guy.
00:21:17.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.
00:21:18.000 He's like a Long Island legend.
00:21:19.000 Yeah, he's a great guy.
00:21:20.000 We were talking about it.
00:21:21.000 We were like, how the fuck does he do that?
00:21:23.000 Joey was ahead of me.
00:21:24.000 He had been doing stand-up longer than me.
00:21:26.000 He had more time that he could do on stage.
00:21:30.000 But I just couldn't imagine ever coming to a point in my life where I have four different hours.
00:21:37.000 That's crazy.
00:21:38.000 And they said he murdered.
00:21:39.000 I believe it.
00:21:40.000 Just murdered.
00:21:41.000 Do you have that deal?
00:21:41.000 You always hear Bill Hicks say that thing of like, you know, the material is what you fall back on when you're out of things to say, which I don't agree with.
00:21:49.000 I think the material is what you show up to do.
00:21:51.000 People want to hear your point of view.
00:21:52.000 They don't want to hear about, you know, they might want to hear you rant a little bit in the beginning, but do the act.
00:21:58.000 That was Hicks' style, though.
00:21:59.000 He had his own way.
00:22:01.000 His way was like he was trying to almost inject philosophy into people while he was telling jokes.
00:22:06.000 Yeah.
00:22:06.000 And the jokes were really smart.
00:22:08.000 Sure, I like the jokes.
00:22:09.000 He was obviously a smart guy, so that was his thing.
00:22:12.000 But I hear you.
00:22:13.000 The thing about him, though, is he didn't have podcasts.
00:22:17.000 Right, right.
00:22:18.000 He could have used one.
00:22:19.000 Yeah.
00:22:20.000 He would have had the greatest podcast ever.
00:22:22.000 And then I bet his stand-up would have gotten better.
00:22:24.000 Because he wouldn't have felt like he had to be so funny on stage.
00:22:28.000 Or so poignant.
00:22:30.000 Poignant.
00:22:30.000 Yeah.
00:22:30.000 He would have felt like, I'm just here to do jokes.
00:22:33.000 During the podcast, I get to talk about life.
00:22:35.000 Right, right.
00:22:36.000 I talk about everything.
00:22:36.000 And I don't even have to be funny.
00:22:38.000 Yeah.
00:22:39.000 Oof.
00:22:39.000 I've had some bad...
00:22:40.000 You mentioned corporates.
00:22:41.000 Did you do any?
00:22:42.000 No.
00:22:43.000 Oh, man.
00:22:43.000 Thank God.
00:22:44.000 Thank the baby Jesus.
00:22:45.000 I did a gig at the cellar.
00:22:46.000 This guy showed up and he goes, I like your stuff.
00:22:49.000 You're edgy.
00:22:49.000 You're raw.
00:22:50.000 Come do my country club.
00:22:52.000 Come roast my country club.
00:22:53.000 I was like, oh, great.
00:22:54.000 So he gave me a sheet of all his employees and all their dirt.
00:22:58.000 And he's like, really zing them.
00:22:59.000 Really make it vicious.
00:23:00.000 They always say vicious.
00:23:02.000 And I show up and it's like Mercedes and, you know, Benz's everywhere and Maserati's.
00:23:06.000 And I'm like, oh shit.
00:23:07.000 White tablecloths.
00:23:08.000 I go up and I do the mic tap.
00:23:11.000 Hey everybody, I'm gonna do some comedy.
00:23:13.000 And they go, he's gonna roast everybody.
00:23:14.000 Sit back.
00:23:15.000 He's got a cigar and a suit.
00:23:16.000 And I go, hey Bill!
00:23:18.000 And Bill stands up and I go, we all know you're on Coke!
00:23:20.000 We've seen it!
00:23:21.000 And Bill's like, what?
00:23:22.000 And his wife's like, oh my god, you're supposed to be clean!
00:23:24.000 And I'm like, alright, well that didn't go well.
00:23:26.000 And I'm like, hey...
00:23:28.000 Hey, Jeff, Jeff, we all know you're cheating on your wife.
00:23:30.000 And she's like, I knew it!
00:23:32.000 You know, and the kids are crying.
00:23:33.000 And, you know, Rob, we all know you're gay.
00:23:35.000 Just come out already.
00:23:36.000 And this is all the shit he gave me.
00:23:38.000 And the place, you know, the place is in a brouhaha.
00:23:41.000 And I fucking, the guy came back.
00:23:42.000 He's like, get the hell out of here.
00:23:44.000 So that was tough.
00:23:45.000 True story.
00:23:47.000 I would have imagined you would have double checked.
00:23:50.000 No, I just used what he gave me.
00:23:51.000 This is all I knew.
00:23:52.000 That seems so ridiculous.
00:23:54.000 That guy's...
00:23:54.000 Now, did you ever communicate with him after the game?
00:23:56.000 He was furious.
00:23:57.000 Furious.
00:23:58.000 He was mad.
00:23:58.000 He was pissed at me.
00:23:59.000 He's like, what happened?
00:23:59.000 I'm like, what do you mean what happened?
00:24:00.000 I did the shit you gave me.
00:24:02.000 You said it'd be vicious.
00:24:03.000 Because he's like, I thought you'd make it funny.
00:24:04.000 I'm like, I just said the shit.
00:24:06.000 I made jokes, but I still had the dirt.
00:24:09.000 Oof.
00:24:09.000 It was bad.
00:24:10.000 I tried to do a couple, you know, jokes after about taxis and peanut butter, but it didn't fly.
00:24:16.000 Nothing?
00:24:17.000 No, they were just yelling at each other.
00:24:21.000 The whole thing was ruined.
00:24:22.000 I ruined the whole party.
00:24:23.000 Did you get paid?
00:24:23.000 I got paid.
00:24:24.000 I had to fight with the guy.
00:24:25.000 Really?
00:24:26.000 And it was a solid check, I might say.
00:24:28.000 Wow.
00:24:28.000 Nice chunk of change.
00:24:30.000 But yeah, corporate.
00:24:30.000 They always say, I've been fired from every gig when they say, be edgy.
00:24:34.000 Every time, they don't know what edgy is.
00:24:36.000 Edgy to us, we're dead inside.
00:24:38.000 Edgy to us is, you know, abortion and miscarriage and AIDS and anal and queef and jizz.
00:24:43.000 But these guys, they want, you know, maybe a Jew joke or something.
00:24:48.000 Edgy is one of those things where, even though I might enjoy it by classical definition, like what it actually is, I never enjoy hearing someone say it's edgy.
00:24:58.000 No, no.
00:24:58.000 Whenever someone says something's edgy, I'm like, ew.
00:25:00.000 Yeah, you sound like my dad.
00:25:02.000 Sounds like horse shit.
00:25:03.000 Right.
00:25:03.000 Like, it's nonsense.
00:25:04.000 Oh, it's so edgy.
00:25:05.000 You gotta see him.
00:25:05.000 He's really edgy.
00:25:06.000 I don't want to see him now.
00:25:07.000 I'm not seeing anybody.
00:25:08.000 I'm not seeing anybody edgy.
00:25:10.000 That term is just a gross term.
00:25:13.000 Edgy.
00:25:14.000 It sounds dorky.
00:25:15.000 I think it's rated R. Whoa!
00:25:17.000 But it's just corny.
00:25:19.000 It's edgy.
00:25:20.000 Edgy means you're trying.
00:25:22.000 Yes.
00:25:23.000 You're trying too hard.
00:25:24.000 Exactly.
00:25:25.000 Trying to be cool.
00:25:26.000 I don't give a fuck.
00:25:27.000 He's edgy.
00:25:28.000 I'm going to make fun of everybody.
00:25:30.000 I'm talking shit.
00:25:31.000 Right.
00:25:32.000 I do like dark humor, though.
00:25:33.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:25:34.000 Me too.
00:25:34.000 I love dark humor.
00:25:35.000 I just don't like that word.
00:25:36.000 That word edgy just kills me.
00:25:37.000 Same, same.
00:25:38.000 It makes me think of the worst.
00:25:39.000 Yes.
00:25:40.000 Like, it's just the shittiest.
00:25:42.000 Right.
00:25:42.000 Well, they always say, that's distasteful.
00:25:46.000 That's bad taste.
00:25:47.000 That's what they always say when I do edgy.
00:25:48.000 Like, no one would call Richard Pryor edgy.
00:25:51.000 I mean, I guess you could, but nobody who likes him...
00:25:55.000 Would you?
00:25:56.000 How could you dare?
00:25:56.000 I wouldn't, but yeah.
00:25:57.000 That's not edgy.
00:25:58.000 I really like good, edgy comedy, like Richard Pryor.
00:26:02.000 Like, get away from me.
00:26:03.000 To me, that's just comedy.
00:26:04.000 That's what stand-up is, is Richard Pryor.
00:26:06.000 Exactly.
00:26:07.000 That's who he was, right?
00:26:08.000 Yeah.
00:26:09.000 He wasn't Stephen Wright.
00:26:10.000 Stephen Wright found his thing.
00:26:12.000 Yeah.
00:26:13.000 You know, that's the great thing about it is that...
00:26:16.000 It's like if you had a drug that has a bunch of different effects, and it's all just drug.
00:26:21.000 You go to the store to get it, and you don't know what you're going to get.
00:26:24.000 Right, right.
00:26:25.000 You know what I mean?
00:26:26.000 That's interesting, yeah.
00:26:27.000 What drug we got today.
00:26:28.000 It could be a Viagra, it could be a birth control.
00:26:31.000 It could be speed.
00:26:32.000 We're going to get comedy.
00:26:34.000 Oh, okay.
00:26:34.000 What kind of comedy are you going to go see?
00:26:36.000 Just fucking whatever.
00:26:37.000 We just took a laxative.
00:26:38.000 Yeah, I mean, it could be anything.
00:26:40.000 Yeah, that's interesting.
00:26:41.000 It could be Guns N' Roses.
00:26:42.000 It could be Barry Manilow.
00:26:44.000 Right.
00:26:44.000 It could be anybody.
00:26:46.000 Yeah, and it's...
00:26:46.000 Sheena Easton.
00:26:48.000 And it seems like they're never happy with what it is, you know?
00:26:51.000 Oh, I mean, neither would you be if you went to see bands and you were, like, really into ACDC. Yeah.
00:26:55.000 And it was a bunch of Fiona Apple clones.
00:26:57.000 You'd be like, enough whining!
00:26:59.000 Right, right.
00:27:00.000 I get it, Sarah McLaughlin.
00:27:02.000 You like puppies.
00:27:04.000 I get it.
00:27:05.000 I did like the Fiona Apple.
00:27:06.000 She was good, but I know what you mean.
00:27:07.000 She was great.
00:27:08.000 She still is, I'm sure.
00:27:09.000 So is Sarah McLaughlin.
00:27:11.000 She's got a beautiful voice.
00:27:12.000 I got it.
00:27:12.000 You know, sometimes you want to hear fucking Cro-Mags or something.
00:27:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:27:17.000 Gwar.
00:27:17.000 Yeah.
00:27:18.000 Or Coldplay.
00:27:18.000 There's a lot of different pieces.
00:27:20.000 Yeah, I get it.
00:27:20.000 I get it.
00:27:21.000 There's different styles.
00:27:22.000 Yeah, I did.
00:27:23.000 I got hired for it by...
00:27:25.000 I shouldn't say the name, but I got hired by this internet company.
00:27:28.000 Pretty big one.
00:27:29.000 And I was supposed to do a Hollywood...
00:27:30.000 Did it run with Google?
00:27:30.000 No, it was older.
00:27:32.000 Couple letters.
00:27:33.000 Three letters.
00:27:34.000 Okay.
00:27:34.000 So I got hired by them to host their Halloween show.
00:27:38.000 I was the host, like Bob Barker style, bad suit, skinny mic, and they were like, be edgy!
00:27:43.000 So I was hosting the Halloween costume.
00:27:45.000 We had a live audience, judges, the whole thing, and they were like, be edgy!
00:27:49.000 We saw your act!
00:27:49.000 We like it!
00:27:50.000 And I go, great!
00:27:51.000 So I'm trying to be funny, I'm getting some zings, some zangs, and Catwoman walks on, like a sexy Catwoman, I make fun of her, pussy, joke, whatever, and It's going well.
00:28:01.000 You're trying to be funny.
00:28:02.000 It's not easy.
00:28:03.000 And then she's walking off and an African queen is walking on.
00:28:07.000 She's like a big headdress black lady.
00:28:09.000 And I go, hey, watch that whip around the African.
00:28:12.000 And I swear to God, the cameras just went, like the whole thing shut down.
00:28:16.000 I felt like the power went out.
00:28:17.000 I was like, well, that was weird.
00:28:18.000 And they fired me right after.
00:28:20.000 Right.
00:28:21.000 You can't, wait a minute, if someone's wearing African garb, you can't say the African?
00:28:26.000 I said watch the whip, because Catwoman had a whip, and she was passing her, going off, and she was coming on.
00:28:32.000 I thought it was a quick, you know, zing-zang.
00:28:33.000 That's fucking funny, man.
00:28:34.000 Thanks!
00:28:35.000 I appreciate it, but they didn't think so.
00:28:37.000 Wow.
00:28:37.000 They fired me.
00:28:38.000 That was bad.
00:28:39.000 That was the first day.
00:28:40.000 I was supposed to do all five days.
00:28:41.000 How funny is that?
00:28:43.000 I mean, you would think that most people would just say, well, that clearly is a joke.
00:28:49.000 Of course, of course.
00:28:50.000 That's about as jokey joke as you can get.
00:28:52.000 And in my dumb mind, I was like, ooh, I fucking nailed that one.
00:28:55.000 I thought so, too.
00:28:56.000 I was quick.
00:28:56.000 I was quick.
00:28:57.000 All right.
00:28:57.000 Or if you were at the seller, that would be you nailed it.
00:28:59.000 Yeah.
00:28:59.000 Right?
00:29:00.000 But I don't know what your dumb parameters are, people.
00:29:03.000 Just because you own a company, I don't know what you like.
00:29:06.000 Yeah, but the problem is you're doing corporates.
00:29:08.000 You can't do them.
00:29:09.000 Ah, well, I needed money, Joe.
00:29:10.000 I get it, brother.
00:29:11.000 Yeah.
00:29:12.000 I get it.
00:29:12.000 I took any gig then.
00:29:13.000 I took Harlem, I was in Connecticut, I was uptown, downtown, all around.
00:29:17.000 Oh, believe me, I used to do bachelor parties with no microphone.
00:29:20.000 Oh, wow.
00:29:21.000 I did horrible, horrible gigs.
00:29:22.000 You gotta do what you gotta do.
00:29:24.000 That's brutal.
00:29:25.000 I did a couple with no microphone.
00:29:27.000 Kind of good for you, though.
00:29:28.000 I look at it like fighting.
00:29:30.000 You want to be a good fighter.
00:29:31.000 I want to be able to grapple.
00:29:33.000 I want to be able to get into a bar fight and win.
00:29:35.000 I also want to be able to get in a playground fight and a boxing ring fight.
00:29:40.000 You want it all.
00:29:41.000 You just want to be good at fighting.
00:29:42.000 Mix it up.
00:29:43.000 Mix it up.
00:29:44.000 Yeah.
00:29:44.000 No, for sure.
00:29:45.000 I think those gigs are good for you.
00:29:47.000 Even the ones where you bomb.
00:29:49.000 It also gives you a greater appreciation of the good shows, and you might have more enthusiasm for If you go to a comedy club and the middle act is already killing and you get out there and there's great energy, you're like, oh, this is so good.
00:30:03.000 You realize how good it is because you did the corporate gig.
00:30:06.000 Maybe you wouldn't appreciate those club gigs unless you had done the corporate gig.
00:30:11.000 Do you remember when you found you?
00:30:12.000 I remember where I was.
00:30:14.000 I bombed for like three years straight when I started.
00:30:16.000 And I remember how I clicked.
00:30:18.000 I just came online and became who I am and it changed everything.
00:30:22.000 What'd you do?
00:30:23.000 I was at a show called Mo Pitkins.
00:30:25.000 That was the name of the bar.
00:30:26.000 It was on Avenue A. And I was bombing and I was doing my dumb horse shit, observational, and this guy started heckling me.
00:30:33.000 And I just, after bombing and living in New York and having bedbugs and just being poor and sad and lonely and drunk, I just snapped on this guy and it was killing!
00:30:43.000 And I was like being me!
00:30:44.000 And I was calling this guy a piece of shit and like, what's your life?
00:30:47.000 And I broke down his whole life and made him feel like an asshole and...
00:30:51.000 I left there like, I felt like an archangel.
00:30:53.000 I was like a phoenix rising.
00:30:55.000 It was amazing.
00:30:56.000 So you've realized that you can be yourself, and if you are yourself, you're even funnier.
00:31:00.000 Exactly.
00:31:00.000 I was in this Seinfeld-y Paul Reiser shell, and I cracked that macadamia nut open and got out of there.
00:31:07.000 It was great.
00:31:09.000 That's beautiful.
00:31:10.000 I felt 10 feet tall.
00:31:11.000 I love hearing stories like that.
00:31:12.000 But I still bomb constantly.
00:31:13.000 Well, if you take chances, you're going to bomb.
00:31:16.000 Of course.
00:31:17.000 If you write new jokes, they're going to fall.
00:31:19.000 Right.
00:31:20.000 You lived in New York, huh?
00:31:21.000 Yeah.
00:31:22.000 That's when I got way better.
00:31:25.000 There you go!
00:31:25.000 I had to get way better.
00:31:26.000 I had to get way better.
00:31:27.000 I was coming from Boston, New York, and in Boston I'd rely too much on regional humor.
00:31:33.000 Wow.
00:31:33.000 And it was also, there was too many, like, bar gigs where you could kind of sustain yourself.
00:31:39.000 And guys did it for too long.
00:31:42.000 They didn't venture out into the rest of the country.
00:31:44.000 And so when I did go to New York, I felt like, first of all, 10 minutes of my material now is useless.
00:31:49.000 Right.
00:31:49.000 Like, gone.
00:31:49.000 Like, bits that were killing.
00:31:51.000 Yeah.
00:31:51.000 Used to kill before.
00:31:52.000 Local humor gets you local work.
00:31:54.000 Yeah, it does.
00:31:55.000 It does.
00:31:56.000 It was a trap, for sure.
00:31:57.000 Yeah, but it works.
00:31:58.000 I had some serious...
00:31:59.000 Bomb sessions, some really bad sets.
00:32:02.000 And I had to realize, okay, I've got to really, really, really go to work and look at this.
00:32:07.000 I can't just look at this casually.
00:32:08.000 I've got to say, why am I so nervous when I go on stage?
00:32:12.000 Why don't I have a really good bit to start with?
00:32:16.000 Why don't I ease into it?
00:32:18.000 Let's look at all the problems that I've had.
00:32:20.000 Being awkward at first, you can't recover.
00:32:23.000 Exactly!
00:32:24.000 So all those different things.
00:32:26.000 When you have to move to a completely new environment, you're forced to rethink how you do comedy because now you're around the Chicago guys.
00:32:34.000 And maybe the Chicago girls and guys do their stand-up different.
00:32:39.000 And you get around them and you go, oh, well, these guys are, this is another level.
00:32:44.000 And then you go to New York, oh, this is another level.
00:32:46.000 This is a higher level.
00:32:48.000 And New York and L.A. are even different.
00:32:50.000 Sure, sure.
00:32:51.000 There's different styles, and all of it is good for you.
00:32:55.000 You're exposed to different styles, you're exposed to different audiences.
00:32:58.000 People who don't do the road, you can't do it.
00:33:02.000 You can't.
00:33:02.000 You can't be a real comic if you don't travel.
00:33:05.000 Exactly.
00:33:06.000 You could be like a niche weirdo, but if you want to entertain the country or the world, you've got to get out there.
00:33:11.000 A lot of those niche weirdos from Boston are some of the greatest comics of all time.
00:33:15.000 That's true.
00:33:15.000 But it's not smart.
00:33:17.000 It's like the problem is then the world doesn't get to see.
00:33:20.000 Yeah.
00:33:21.000 Then only the people around you get to see and you're missing out on a giant chunk of the people that could appreciate your work.
00:33:29.000 You could have these fans.
00:33:31.000 You would make them feel better.
00:33:33.000 They would see you and laugh.
00:33:34.000 You're missing all that.
00:33:35.000 You're missing all that because you're not making the right steps.
00:33:38.000 Yeah, it's actually kind of closed-minded.
00:33:40.000 Well, I just, it's convenient.
00:33:41.000 Sometimes guys get married, they have kids, you know, and they get stuck.
00:33:44.000 They're in school.
00:33:45.000 They don't want to go on the road every weekend.
00:33:47.000 You know, it's like, it's too much, you know?
00:33:49.000 Yeah.
00:33:49.000 But you lived in New York.
00:33:51.000 When you moved there, did you have money?
00:33:52.000 No.
00:33:53.000 Yeah, okay.
00:33:53.000 That was hell, right?
00:33:54.000 It was real bad.
00:33:56.000 I was actually staying with my grandfather, who was living in Newark, New Jersey, on North 9th Street.
00:34:02.000 God!
00:34:03.000 Right next to a guy who got his door broken down for selling crack.
00:34:06.000 Sounds good.
00:34:07.000 He had an Audi parked in his driveway.
00:34:08.000 He had some cheddar.
00:34:10.000 Yeah, my grandfather was there and bought a house.
00:34:14.000 I think he bought a house in like the 40s.
00:34:18.000 And somewhere later, like in the 50s or the 60s, they did this thing called blockbusting.
00:34:24.000 I remember that.
00:34:25.000 Good video.
00:34:26.000 I think that was the story.
00:34:28.000 Oh, sorry.
00:34:28.000 They would say that, like, hey, a black person's moving into your neighborhood.
00:34:32.000 Black people are going to move into your neighborhood, and it's going to drop your property value.
00:34:36.000 So you've got to sell now before this happens.
00:34:38.000 And a lot of people panicked and just sold their houses.
00:34:42.000 My grandfather was like, I like black people.
00:34:44.000 I'm staying right here.
00:34:45.000 So he just never moved.
00:34:47.000 Bad business.
00:34:48.000 He was just like, this is my fucking house.
00:34:51.000 This is where I live.
00:34:52.000 And he was there, and it turned from this all-Italian neighborhood to it was a black neighborhood for a while, and then it became, right now, or when I lived there, rather, it was more of a Latino immigrant community.
00:35:06.000 There was a lot of Spanish-speaking people from all sorts of different countries.
00:35:11.000 I didn't do a survey and find out what country they're all from, but...
00:35:13.000 Do you think black people go, shit, the Latinos are moving in?
00:35:16.000 Like, do you think they get upset about that?
00:35:18.000 Like, you know, blockbusting with, you know, Latins?
00:35:22.000 I think it's all about where people can move where they can survive.
00:35:26.000 Cheap.
00:35:26.000 If it's got to be cheap.
00:35:27.000 That's why artists go there, too.
00:35:29.000 Artists are the lowest rung of everything.
00:35:30.000 Yeah.
00:35:31.000 We're the brokest and least—we can't do anything.
00:35:34.000 At least, like, black people and Latinos, they have, like, some skills.
00:35:37.000 Artists have one skill, and that's painting or some shit.
00:35:40.000 Yeah, or telling jokes.
00:35:41.000 That was always like a badge of courage for guys who lived in Alphabet City.
00:35:44.000 Like, whoa, he's real.
00:35:46.000 What do they say?
00:35:47.000 A is for...
00:35:48.000 No, D is death.
00:35:49.000 C is...
00:35:51.000 I don't know.
00:35:52.000 Cool it.
00:35:52.000 Crack.
00:35:53.000 Yeah, crack.
00:35:54.000 And B was, you know, be careful.
00:35:56.000 And A was anal.
00:35:57.000 I don't know.
00:35:58.000 It was something.
00:35:59.000 That whole area was...
00:36:00.000 If you knew a guy who lived there, he probably wore...
00:36:04.000 He probably wore those, what are those fucking boots?
00:36:07.000 Doc Martens.
00:36:08.000 Oh yeah.
00:36:09.000 What's that?
00:36:09.000 Timberlands?
00:36:09.000 No, he was a Doc Martens guy.
00:36:11.000 If you were a white guy and you lived in Alphabet City, you were like a tortured fan of the Creeps.
00:36:16.000 Right.
00:36:16.000 Right?
00:36:17.000 You remember that band, the Creeps?
00:36:18.000 Sure.
00:36:19.000 I think that band had such a cool logo that a bunch of people just signed on to become fans just because they liked that creepy...
00:36:26.000 That weird, you know what I mean?
00:36:27.000 That greenish, kind of droopy.
00:36:29.000 That weird fellow.
00:36:30.000 Like, music for bad people.
00:36:32.000 Remember that?
00:36:33.000 It was a good t-shirt, I remember.
00:36:35.000 I dated a gal who would go to those shows, and she would mosh, and she'd come back with headaches.
00:36:40.000 Damn!
00:36:41.000 She'd come back dizzy and shit?
00:36:43.000 Yeah.
00:36:44.000 She got bonked in the head in a fucking mosh pit at some punk rock show at the Ratskeller.
00:36:49.000 Yeah, I moved to New York with $400, and I got bedbugs the first year, landlord died of AIDS, and I got mugged three times in the first year.
00:36:59.000 Oh my god.
00:37:00.000 It was hell, man.
00:37:01.000 Mugged at, like, what?
00:37:02.000 Knife point?
00:37:03.000 Gun point?
00:37:04.000 Well, it was mostly my fault.
00:37:06.000 I'm victim-blaming here, but I was always such a blackout drunk that I was just, like, asking to be mugged.
00:37:12.000 Oh.
00:37:21.000 Really?
00:37:34.000 Oh yeah, at four in the morning, yeah.
00:37:36.000 Two, three hours?
00:37:37.000 Because the trains change and they never show up and then the garbage train comes.
00:37:42.000 It takes forever.
00:37:43.000 And I live in Crown Heights, man, which is like way out.
00:37:46.000 So I fell asleep in this little alcove and I woke up and four or five guys are going through my shit.
00:37:52.000 They're blockbusting.
00:37:53.000 And I'm like, oh shit!
00:37:55.000 And I was like, what?
00:37:57.000 And he goes, he's getting up!
00:37:58.000 And he hit me and I went out again.
00:37:59.000 They took my keys, my phone, my joke book, and my wallet.
00:38:04.000 And starting from scratch with no money, you've got to somehow get a MetroCard, but you have no wallet to get the MetroCard.
00:38:10.000 You've got no credit card to get the wallet.
00:38:12.000 I mean, it's brutal.
00:38:14.000 How'd you get by?
00:38:15.000 What'd you do?
00:38:15.000 I just had to walk home, which took forever, and then I think I jumped the turnstiles, got home, and then you find your roommate, you call your mom, and she helps you.
00:38:24.000 Wow.
00:38:25.000 I fell asleep.
00:38:26.000 Oh, this is a crazy story.
00:38:27.000 I fell asleep on the subway.
00:38:28.000 I went like four stops past mine in Brooklyn.
00:38:31.000 I got out and I was like, I'll walk in.
00:38:33.000 It's a nice night.
00:38:33.000 I see five guys in the corner, right out of Stensville casting, shooting dice, thugged out guys on the corner, drinking 40s.
00:38:40.000 And I go, I'm going to cross the street.
00:38:42.000 These guys look a little shady.
00:38:44.000 And I walk across the street and now an older guy is coming to our white beard, big older black guy.
00:38:49.000 And he gets up to me and I had an old iPod.
00:38:51.000 He goes, give me that radio.
00:38:52.000 And I go, it's not a radio.
00:38:54.000 Thinking that would like...
00:38:56.000 You know, turn him away.
00:38:57.000 And he goes, just give it to me.
00:38:58.000 And I go, I don't think so.
00:38:59.000 And he grabs at it.
00:39:00.000 So I grab at it.
00:39:01.000 Now we're tugging.
00:39:02.000 And he picks me up.
00:39:03.000 And he's slamming me against a business.
00:39:05.000 Like, you know when the metal gate closes?
00:39:06.000 That pow!
00:39:07.000 Pow!
00:39:08.000 And I'm kicking him.
00:39:09.000 I'm punching him.
00:39:10.000 And I can't.
00:39:11.000 I think he was on PCP or something.
00:39:12.000 And before I know it, those five guys run over and just beat the shit out of him.
00:39:16.000 I'm talking.
00:39:17.000 He hits the ground.
00:39:18.000 They're kicking him in the face.
00:39:19.000 And I'm just like, ugh!
00:39:20.000 I grab my iPod and I get out of there.
00:39:22.000 So those five guys helped you?
00:39:24.000 They saved my life, yeah.
00:39:25.000 Holy shit.
00:39:26.000 I talked to a cop about it like a month later and he was like, oh, those were drug dealers and they can't have some white kid getting killed in the neighborhood.
00:39:33.000 So they had to make a choice.
00:39:35.000 And I was like, wow, thank God for drugs.
00:39:39.000 You can't judge.
00:39:40.000 I'd totally judge those guys.
00:39:41.000 Well, they're like a local mafia.
00:39:43.000 They take care of their block.
00:39:44.000 Exactly.
00:39:45.000 I mean, that's what the mob always did.
00:39:46.000 The one thing that people liked that lived in communities that were run by the mob is that they kind of kept an order.
00:39:52.000 Right.
00:39:53.000 It was a terrible order if you fell foul to them.
00:39:56.000 Yeah.
00:39:57.000 You had an issue with them.
00:39:59.000 Yeah.
00:39:59.000 But you didn't.
00:40:00.000 They always said that when the mob ran Vegas...
00:40:04.000 Like old ladies would always say that.
00:40:05.000 It was beautiful when the mob ran it.
00:40:07.000 That's true.
00:40:07.000 Yeah.
00:40:07.000 The mob ran Vegas.
00:40:08.000 It was classy.
00:40:10.000 You hear that about Buddy Cianci.
00:40:11.000 He was like the Providence mayor.
00:40:14.000 And he was like a big, big mob guy.
00:40:16.000 But everything was clean and well run.
00:40:19.000 But he was also whacking people in the back of a butcher store.
00:40:21.000 Ugh.
00:40:22.000 So you get the good with the bad.
00:40:23.000 It's like Al Capone showing up with a turkey on Thanksgiving, but then he's killing your uncle for not paying the bills.
00:40:28.000 Yeah.
00:40:28.000 Yeah.
00:40:29.000 Yeah, that was the thing about John Gotti in Crown Heights, right?
00:40:32.000 He would light the fireworks.
00:40:34.000 Was it Crown Heights?
00:40:35.000 Is that where he lived?
00:40:36.000 I don't know.
00:40:37.000 There was some place in Brooklyn.
00:40:39.000 Was it Bensonhurst?
00:40:40.000 Maybe Bensonhurst.
00:40:40.000 That was very Italian.
00:40:43.000 Wherever it was.
00:40:44.000 Where Gotti would have this enormous fireworks celebration every year.
00:40:48.000 And everybody knew that the Godfather put on this fireworks celebration.
00:40:51.000 It was like his peacock feathers that would flare once a year.
00:40:55.000 Right.
00:40:55.000 And, you know, they all, like, appreciated him, and they'd come to give him respect, and, you know, they'd have this open display of the mafia in the form of fireworks.
00:41:05.000 Uh-huh.
00:41:05.000 That's great.
00:41:06.000 And everybody knew.
00:41:07.000 And it was a weird thing.
00:41:08.000 Like, everybody knew that he was putting it on.
00:41:10.000 Wow.
00:41:10.000 It's very strange.
00:41:12.000 Very strange.
00:41:13.000 And then they're in with the cops, too, so that's weird.
00:41:15.000 You feel very safe.
00:41:16.000 It's dangerous.
00:41:19.000 Too much murder.
00:41:22.000 Yeah.
00:41:33.000 Yeah, I guess so.
00:41:35.000 It's just better.
00:41:36.000 It's way better.
00:41:37.000 Yeah, it's got issues.
00:41:38.000 But it's based on the idea that we're all equal and that we all have equal rights and the laws are supposed to protect us from people committing crimes to us and stealing from us.
00:41:47.000 Yeah, imagine if a mob guy knocked on your warehouse and was like, hey, hey, you gotta pay up.
00:41:51.000 Exactly.
00:41:52.000 Wouldn't that be crazy?
00:41:52.000 What would you do?
00:41:53.000 Hire more SEALs.
00:41:55.000 You got SEALs here?
00:41:57.000 Yeah.
00:41:57.000 That's what those guys are?
00:41:58.000 Yeah, I'm not paying anybody.
00:42:01.000 I don't know, but then now you're in the bad spot.
00:42:04.000 Yeah, you don't want to be in the bad spot.
00:42:05.000 Yeah, so it's a tough gamble.
00:42:07.000 And then you're just thinking about it.
00:42:08.000 You're laying in bed at night and you hear somebody tapping on your door and you're like, fuck!
00:42:11.000 And then they start taunting you.
00:42:12.000 Then your life is ruined!
00:42:14.000 Then they fuck with your wife.
00:42:15.000 Who knows what's going on?
00:42:16.000 Yep, and that's how they get people to pay.
00:42:18.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:42:18.000 That's how people get scared.
00:42:20.000 Now they call it unions.
00:42:21.000 Oh, boy.
00:42:22.000 What are you saying?
00:42:23.000 Sorry, sorry.
00:42:24.000 Some unions are legitimate, sir.
00:42:26.000 You're obviously on the hooch.
00:42:27.000 You've drank too much of that Buffalo Trace whiskey, sir.
00:42:30.000 Gotta get over the hump.
00:42:31.000 You're on the hooch.
00:42:32.000 Boy, you got big mitts.
00:42:33.000 Look at the size of those hands.
00:42:35.000 Jesus, you could choke a man.
00:42:38.000 Wow!
00:42:39.000 Alright, sorry.
00:42:39.000 The coffee's...
00:42:41.000 I'm on the moon here.
00:42:42.000 This stuff's no joke!
00:42:44.000 It's not for the timid at heart.
00:42:46.000 I gotta get the buffalo in me just to even out.
00:42:49.000 Long night.
00:42:49.000 Yeah, it's that Laird Hamilton coffee, son.
00:42:51.000 He's a hunk.
00:42:53.000 He's a hunk of a man.
00:42:54.000 Him and his wife.
00:42:54.000 Wouldn't you love to watch them fuck?
00:42:56.000 You know a Pat from the Black Keys?
00:42:58.000 Yes, I would.
00:42:59.000 That's a beautiful spawn they would have.
00:43:01.000 I mean, with genetics.
00:43:03.000 Even Larry David's kids are hot, and he's a troll.
00:43:06.000 Ha!
00:43:07.000 You know?
00:43:08.000 I mean, I love him.
00:43:08.000 He's my hero, but...
00:43:09.000 Her genes just took over.
00:43:11.000 They picked up the weight.
00:43:12.000 The wife gene.
00:43:13.000 Yeah, the wife gene.
00:43:14.000 Yeah, the wife is beautiful.
00:43:15.000 Yeah, so the wife gene just picked up the extra weight.
00:43:17.000 Like, we got it.
00:43:18.000 We got it.
00:43:18.000 Don't worry.
00:43:18.000 Aren't you glad that women find funny...
00:43:21.000 What would we do if...
00:43:22.000 You know, you're a wilder beast.
00:43:26.000 I'm a dweeb.
00:43:27.000 You know, like...
00:43:28.000 The real problem.
00:43:29.000 Yeah, we'd be fucked.
00:43:30.000 Thank God women can see past looks.
00:43:33.000 I know, because men can't.
00:43:35.000 Jesus!
00:43:36.000 I mean, imagine if we had to wear makeup.
00:43:38.000 Oh God, I'd kill myself.
00:43:39.000 Imagine, like I was watching a lady this morning in the car.
00:43:42.000 I was ahead and my kid had a little thing at school.
00:43:46.000 One of those little, what are those things called?
00:43:49.000 Mascara.
00:43:50.000 No, they get on stage.
00:43:52.000 Jewel.
00:43:53.000 Assembly.
00:43:53.000 Thank you.
00:43:54.000 God, why couldn't I come up with assembly?
00:43:55.000 I was just at one this morning.
00:43:57.000 You're getting old.
00:43:58.000 I'm looking at this lady in traffic and she's applying bass on her face and she's doing this all while she's in between traffic stops.
00:44:06.000 Unbelievable.
00:44:06.000 They hit the red light and immediately they're putting their mask on.
00:44:10.000 Yeah.
00:44:11.000 Dolling it up.
00:44:11.000 Wow, it's such a weird thing to want to do.
00:44:15.000 Yeah, I feel bad for women, but then I also hate when they blame men for that.
00:44:19.000 You know, they go, oh, in a man's world, I gotta wear the makeup.
00:44:22.000 Like, no, you don't have to, but you can also be considered less attractive.
00:44:25.000 Like, it's a give and take here.
00:44:27.000 How much less?
00:44:28.000 Listen, man.
00:44:29.000 Yeah, yeah, good point.
00:44:33.000 Sure, but you've got to have a nice face, too.
00:44:36.000 I mean, realistically, you can't just not have...
00:44:39.000 You sound like the Dalai Lama.
00:44:40.000 Well, let's get down to...
00:44:41.000 Did you hear what happened with him?
00:44:42.000 No, what happened?
00:44:44.000 They were talking to him about, would there ever be a female Dalai Lama?
00:44:47.000 He goes, yes, but it must be good-looking.
00:44:49.000 Oh, well, I'm not saying that.
00:44:51.000 And the lady was like, what?
00:44:52.000 And he goes, yeah, nobody wants to see this face.
00:44:55.000 And he makes, like, this ugly face.
00:44:57.000 Oh, well, he's no peach himself, but I'm saying biology is the ultimate misogynist.
00:45:02.000 Sure.
00:45:03.000 When you really break it down.
00:45:04.000 You know, women, they've got to get pregnant before this age, and they also want to have a career, but they want to get knocked up, but then the tits and the boobs and the butt and the waist, it sucks.
00:45:14.000 Yeah.
00:45:14.000 And some women want a career simply because they want to show everybody that they're not inferior to men.
00:45:21.000 Yeah, that's weird, too.
00:45:23.000 Yeah, it's like society's trick, I'm not saying trick them, but trap them in a situation where not only do they have to have the babies, they have to create humans, and on top of that, they have to compete with men and show that they can.
00:45:36.000 Right.
00:45:37.000 I always find that the women who are mothers, but are also corporate people, they're insanely competitive.
00:45:45.000 Yes!
00:45:46.000 Like a Gabrielle Reese.
00:45:48.000 If she went that way, if she went the corporate way, she'd be insanely competitive.
00:45:52.000 Killer.
00:45:53.000 Which is why she was this killer volleyball player.
00:45:55.000 Right, right.
00:45:56.000 I really feel like that's a really new thing for humans.
00:46:03.000 Yeah.
00:46:03.000 What year was it?
00:46:05.000 I mean, not...
00:46:06.000 It's not that it's bad, because it's great that women have the option to do whatever they want.
00:46:10.000 But what I'm saying is just historically, how recent is it?
00:46:13.000 Because it seems like it's only within the last hundred years that women have had this sort of career, working alongside men in business, in the boardrooms, and making these big decisions, and being CEOs of companies.
00:46:29.000 Which is great if you want to do that, and if you're good at it.
00:46:31.000 You still have to be good at it.
00:46:32.000 I hate all like, we've got to put a woman in.
00:46:34.000 Well, what if she sucks?
00:46:35.000 Put a woman in who's good.
00:46:36.000 There are women who are good at it.
00:46:38.000 It's insulting and condescending.
00:46:40.000 She's like, put a woman in.
00:46:41.000 We want to have a good quota.
00:46:42.000 Put a good one in.
00:46:43.000 I had a conversation like that with my friend.
00:46:45.000 She has a TV show, and she was talking about wanting to hire a diverse cast of writers.
00:46:50.000 And I was like, as long as they're good, that's number one.
00:46:53.000 That's how I feel.
00:46:54.000 Number one should be, are they good?
00:46:55.000 Exactly.
00:46:55.000 And she's like, well, I just want it to look a certain way.
00:46:57.000 I don't want it to be all white men.
00:46:59.000 I'm like, okay, you got one shot at this.
00:47:01.000 If you're going to do a stand-up show, you got one shot at this.
00:47:04.000 You got to put your blinders on and just say, who is the funniest?
00:47:07.000 Isn't it?
00:47:09.000 It's a meritocracy.
00:47:10.000 You're trying to make a funny show.
00:47:11.000 That's the ultimate meritocracy.
00:47:12.000 The ultimate equality.
00:47:13.000 I get it if you don't think that someone can be funny but right for women, that you might be right there.
00:47:17.000 Yes, I agree with that.
00:47:18.000 I agree with that.
00:47:18.000 That's why the UFC is great.
00:47:20.000 You just let it go.
00:47:21.000 Just don't touch it.
00:47:22.000 And it's fucking...
00:47:23.000 You got a Russian guy.
00:47:24.000 You got an African guy.
00:47:25.000 You got a Swedish guy.
00:47:26.000 You got a German guy.
00:47:27.000 An Irish guy.
00:47:28.000 No one's going, oh, there's not enough black people.
00:47:30.000 Oh, thank God Silva's here.
00:47:32.000 Thank God Anderson Silva's here.
00:47:33.000 No, he's just good.
00:47:34.000 And then you got the good women, too.
00:47:36.000 You got the cyborgs and the whatnots and the rowsies.
00:47:38.000 Just let it happen.
00:47:39.000 Let it be good.
00:47:40.000 It should work itself out.
00:47:41.000 Yeah, fighting's the ultimate meritocracy, right?
00:47:44.000 Yeah, yeah, completely.
00:47:45.000 Which is why it's so popular, I think.
00:47:46.000 Yeah.
00:47:46.000 I think there's as little bullshit in it as possible.
00:47:49.000 There's bad decisions and there's injuries and stuff like that.
00:47:52.000 Eye pokes.
00:47:54.000 But overall, it's like the least bullshittable out of all sports.
00:47:59.000 I think it goes back to the blending.
00:48:01.000 The shit your daughter's watching.
00:48:03.000 Because it's just...
00:48:04.000 We want basic.
00:48:05.000 We're craving basic shit.
00:48:07.000 And I know basic is like an insult now, which is ironic.
00:48:10.000 But it's like, we just want...
00:48:11.000 Give me the core.
00:48:13.000 We got so much...
00:48:14.000 Dog shit.
00:48:15.000 Our sushi has mayonnaise on it now.
00:48:17.000 What the fuck are we doing?
00:48:18.000 The best sushi is just the simple roll.
00:48:20.000 Give me a BJ. Don't put, you know, don't give me a reach around.
00:48:24.000 Just go with the shit that works.
00:48:26.000 Don't put hot sauce on my dick.
00:48:27.000 Yeah, whatever that is.
00:48:28.000 Or the fucking cert or whatever they eat.
00:48:31.000 The mint.
00:48:32.000 It's good.
00:48:33.000 Don't break.
00:48:34.000 What is it?
00:48:34.000 Don't fix what's ain't broke.
00:48:35.000 Yeah, that would be the most ridiculous porn series ever.
00:48:39.000 Hot ones with dicks.
00:48:41.000 Where they just put different kind of hot sauce on dudes' dicks and these girls are crying and snot's coming out of their nose and they're blowing guys who have like Dave's Red Hot.
00:48:50.000 Yeah, that wouldn't be milk they're drinking though.
00:48:52.000 Like, what's the most ridiculous one that they always have on the Hot Ones show?
00:48:57.000 Oh, The Last Dab.
00:48:58.000 The Last Dab, that's what it's called?
00:49:00.000 Yeah.
00:49:00.000 There's one that, like, Ari got me some of this shit that has a skull and crossbones on it, and I'm telling you, I'd have a bowl of, like, chicken noodle soup, and you put a fucking drop.
00:49:09.000 Yeah.
00:49:09.000 Just blip!
00:49:10.000 And you eat it and you're like...
00:49:11.000 One tiny little drop.
00:49:14.000 That's not fun.
00:49:15.000 Also, dumb for those salesmen.
00:49:16.000 You're never going to sell a bottle.
00:49:18.000 But you are.
00:49:18.000 You're wrong.
00:49:19.000 Who's going to buy a bottle if a drop goes a long way?
00:49:22.000 Some people can do it, man.
00:49:24.000 We can't do it, but some people can do it.
00:49:25.000 I don't get it.
00:49:26.000 They used to get these guys that would come from Nepal to this chili...
00:49:29.000 There was a place called Chili My Soul in Encino.
00:49:31.000 And it was crazy how hot this guy would make his chili.
00:49:35.000 Yeah.
00:49:35.000 Fucking insane.
00:49:36.000 He had different levels, like level one, level two.
00:49:39.000 I forget what the number system was, but he had this one level that was so fucking insanely hot.
00:49:44.000 He would let you try it, but they would give you a tiny little paper cup.
00:49:48.000 They'd be like, this is all you get.
00:49:49.000 Your tongue would go numb.
00:49:51.000 You couldn't stop sneezing.
00:49:52.000 What's the fun?
00:49:53.000 Well, he told me these guys from Nepal came in, ate that, and were pouring more hot sauce on top of it.
00:49:58.000 I was like, there's no way.
00:49:59.000 He goes, I'm telling you, they just have a different thing.
00:50:02.000 Their system is set up differently.
00:50:04.000 They can just eat it when you can't.
00:50:05.000 I love hot sauce.
00:50:06.000 I'm from New Orleans.
00:50:07.000 We grew up on that shit, but I don't get the painful stuff.
00:50:11.000 It's almost like a risk-fun thing, like jumping out of a plane or something.
00:50:15.000 I feel like some people don't feel things the same way.
00:50:19.000 Oh, well that's for sure.
00:50:20.000 For sure, right?
00:50:21.000 It has to be.
00:50:22.000 Yeah.
00:50:23.000 Like, you know, people have different tastes in art.
00:50:26.000 Like, some things that I think are garbage.
00:50:28.000 Other people are willing to pay thousands of dollars for it.
00:50:31.000 Like, this is amazing.
00:50:32.000 You know?
00:50:33.000 Like, there's things that they resonate with some people, but other people think they're trash.
00:50:38.000 Yeah.
00:50:38.000 Yeah, but I think a lot of that is BS. They just want their friends to think they know, they want to seem cultured.
00:50:43.000 But I see what you're saying, but I think there's a lot of art that's just about the image.
00:50:47.000 Yeah, there's a little bit of that.
00:50:48.000 Okay, but what about music then?
00:50:49.000 Same thing.
00:50:50.000 Think about the radical differences between jazz and, say, hip-hop.
00:50:54.000 There's definitely devotees for both, both jazz and hip-hop, and they can't be more mutually...
00:51:00.000 More different.
00:51:02.000 Yeah, I like both.
00:51:03.000 Yeah, I like both too, but they're so fucking different.
00:51:06.000 Yeah.
00:51:06.000 Like some people would love one and hate the other.
00:51:09.000 Totally.
00:51:10.000 Totally.
00:51:10.000 My dad.
00:51:11.000 So that's like just a taste, like appreciation for things.
00:51:14.000 But is there that much variation in taste buds?
00:51:17.000 Mmm, I think so.
00:51:19.000 Because there must be.
00:51:20.000 Because there's things I love that other people think are disgusting.
00:51:22.000 Well, they say you taste what your mom is eating as a fetus.
00:51:27.000 Like, that's the first introduction to, like, you know, preference.
00:51:31.000 And I think that has a lot to do with my friend from Whitman, Mass, Joe List.
00:51:35.000 We have a podcast together.
00:51:36.000 I know that guy.
00:51:37.000 Yeah, you know Joe.
00:51:38.000 He...
00:51:58.000 It's crazy.
00:52:01.000 That's too much.
00:52:03.000 And I'm like, how can you?
00:52:04.000 And he just grew up with pizza and birthday cake and chips.
00:52:07.000 Whereas my mom is a foodie cunt, so she had all kinds of weird stews going.
00:52:13.000 She's a foodie cunt.
00:52:14.000 I mean, my mom would cook anything.
00:52:15.000 I think she's like a Depression-era whore, because she would have a fridge with chicken bones and a box of cream, and she would make something.
00:52:23.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:52:24.000 Oh, yeah.
00:52:26.000 Yeah, I'm the same, man.
00:52:27.000 I love different kinds of food.
00:52:28.000 I love Indian food, man.
00:52:30.000 Love Indian.
00:52:31.000 Been on an Indian food kick lately.
00:52:32.000 Thai food.
00:52:33.000 Love!
00:52:34.000 Thai's the best Asian, I think.
00:52:35.000 I think so, too.
00:52:36.000 Food and people.
00:52:37.000 Whoa.
00:52:38.000 Just kidding.
00:52:38.000 Well, have you ever been?
00:52:40.000 Thai?
00:52:40.000 Yeah, to Thailand.
00:52:41.000 No, I've been to China.
00:52:42.000 Super nice people, man.
00:52:43.000 No Thai.
00:52:43.000 Thailand's like the nicest people you're ever going to encounter.
00:52:46.000 It's strange how nice they are.
00:52:47.000 Everybody's so friendly.
00:52:49.000 Best looking Asian, too, I think.
00:52:50.000 They look pretty hot.
00:52:51.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:52:53.000 But you might be catching the wrong gender.
00:52:56.000 Oh!
00:52:57.000 That's a deal there.
00:52:58.000 Well, gender's a construct.
00:52:59.000 It is.
00:53:00.000 And there's the best proof of it.
00:53:04.000 That's a good point.
00:53:05.000 They also figured out the best way to kick people in the legs.
00:53:08.000 Like Thai boxing.
00:53:09.000 Interesting.
00:53:10.000 Elbows, the best elbows, knees, leg kicks.
00:53:13.000 Is that Thai?
00:53:14.000 Yeah, it's Thai.
00:53:14.000 I thought Brazilian had that cornered.
00:53:16.000 Oh, Muay Thai.
00:53:17.000 Yeah, Muay Thai.
00:53:18.000 Of course.
00:53:18.000 The Brazilians is Jiu-Jitsu.
00:53:20.000 Right.
00:53:20.000 The Brazilians figured out Jiu-Jitsu and the Thais figured out kickboxing.
00:53:23.000 Right.
00:53:23.000 Uh-huh.
00:53:24.000 What about Krav Maga?
00:53:25.000 Is that any good?
00:53:26.000 Sure, yeah.
00:53:26.000 You don't hear much about Krav.
00:53:28.000 Well, it's a combination.
00:53:29.000 It's a self-defense system.
00:53:31.000 I believe it was created for the Israeli military.
00:53:34.000 Uh-huh.
00:53:35.000 But what it essentially is is the best aspects of all these different martial arts, like a Jeet Kune Do, like a Jewish Jeet Kune Do.
00:53:42.000 Mm-hmm.
00:53:42.000 Bruce Lee's idea of Jeet Kune Do is like you take what's useful from whatever martial art and combine them.
00:53:47.000 With Krav Maga, there's some of them, you know, some are more striking based, some are more grappling based in terms of what they teach in their classes, but it's essentially a combination of...
00:53:58.000 Striking arts and grappling arts.
00:54:01.000 Jiu-jitsu techniques along with karate techniques, Muay Thai techniques.
00:54:05.000 So they do real martial arts.
00:54:08.000 If you see a Krav Maga expert, you go, oh, well that guy is a real martial artist.
00:54:14.000 It's not like...
00:54:14.000 It's not like watching some of those kung fu people that do wacky shit.
00:54:17.000 Right, right.
00:54:18.000 They're like, I don't think that's real.
00:54:19.000 It's just noises.
00:54:20.000 You're just touching the guy in the chest and the guy's falling down.
00:54:23.000 What they're doing is real stuff.
00:54:24.000 Okay.
00:54:24.000 So they just combined it.
00:54:26.000 Isn't it funny how the Jews really flipped when they got to America?
00:54:30.000 You go to Israel and it's like chiseled, tan, tall, full head of silky hair, hot lady, and then in America it's just like diners and banks.
00:54:39.000 What happened?
00:54:39.000 What happened?
00:54:39.000 What do you think?
00:54:40.000 I don't know.
00:54:41.000 Allergies and, you know, stuff like that and crazy moms.
00:54:46.000 Well, I don't know anything about the Jewish lineage, the genetic lineage, but I would imagine there's a difference between the European Jews and the Israeli Jews.
00:54:54.000 Uh-huh.
00:54:54.000 But it's something about America.
00:54:55.000 Look at African-American black or African black and then African-Americans.
00:54:59.000 Very different.
00:55:00.000 Hmm.
00:55:01.000 You know, I think it's something...
00:55:02.000 America in general.
00:55:03.000 Yeah, it's America, I think.
00:55:05.000 You can do it with almost every group, like...
00:55:07.000 Italians.
00:55:07.000 Italians!
00:55:08.000 The food's different here.
00:55:09.000 Yes!
00:55:10.000 Spaghetti and meatballs, you'd think that's Italian.
00:55:12.000 That doesn't even exist over there.
00:55:13.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:55:15.000 Yeah, their pizza's not like our shitty triangular mess.
00:55:18.000 Yeah.
00:55:18.000 You know?
00:55:19.000 And just the people.
00:55:19.000 Yeah, their food is very fish-oriented, very light.
00:55:22.000 The meals are like these long experiences where you sit down for multiple courses.
00:55:26.000 Right, right.
00:55:27.000 And we got all kinds of...
00:55:28.000 We got Olive Garden.
00:55:29.000 That's what we did to it.
00:55:31.000 Breadsticks.
00:55:32.000 Well, I think that's probably the price you pay for being competitive.
00:55:35.000 I guess.
00:55:36.000 Because if you go to Italy, they don't have a lot of industry.
00:55:39.000 When you go to the touristy places, of course, it's all tourists.
00:55:43.000 But you've got to think, what chunk of their economy is based on people visiting Italy?
00:55:47.000 It must be enormous.
00:55:49.000 Yeah, it's got to be huge.
00:55:50.000 I mean, I've been there to see the Colosseum and all that.
00:55:52.000 Yeah, it's got to be an enormous sum of money.
00:55:54.000 Oh, yeah.
00:55:55.000 It has to be like, I would say it's probably like 50% of their economy or something crazy.
00:55:59.000 Right.
00:55:59.000 There's people visiting them.
00:56:00.000 Big on the catcalling over there.
00:56:02.000 This country is, yeah, real big.
00:56:04.000 Oh, yeah.
00:56:05.000 They go hard in the paint.
00:56:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:56:07.000 Cultural.
00:56:07.000 But this country is like frantic.
00:56:10.000 We're like the most frantic ants at the center of the colony.
00:56:14.000 Money, money, business, business, business.
00:56:17.000 Yeah, corporate, corporate, corporate, chains.
00:56:19.000 Especially somewhere like New York, right?
00:56:21.000 Stacked on top of each other.
00:56:23.000 Yeah, I mean, I saw a little bit of the real New York, and now it's just Pinkberry's, Dwayne Reed's, and Chase Bank.
00:56:29.000 It's crazy.
00:56:30.000 I saw a little, but that's also when I was getting robbed.
00:56:33.000 There's a theme to this episode, and it's the good and the bad.
00:56:37.000 There's a balance.
00:56:37.000 You get mugged, you get spit on, you get catculled, but then you get the pink berry.
00:56:42.000 Judah Freelander's been there forever, and he told me that when he first moved there, it was like all artists.
00:56:47.000 Yeah.
00:56:47.000 And he said, now it's all bankers.
00:56:49.000 Yeah.
00:56:50.000 It's like, it's so weird how it happened.
00:56:51.000 It's kooky.
00:56:53.000 Guys rolling through downtown in Lamborghinis.
00:56:55.000 Yeah, there's a lot of that now.
00:56:57.000 It's so weird.
00:56:57.000 It's very odd.
00:56:58.000 And neighborhoods you go to before had this cool dive bar, and now it's this wacky condo that's all glass and futuristic.
00:57:05.000 And you're like, what the fuck is this?
00:57:06.000 When did this pop up?
00:57:07.000 Yeah.
00:57:08.000 I bought a moped.
00:57:09.000 I love this thing.
00:57:10.000 I'm zipping all over Manhattan.
00:57:11.000 I don't know why more people aren't buying mopeds in New York.
00:57:14.000 I mean, it's perfect for Manhattan.
00:57:16.000 Manhattan is 14 miles long, 2 miles wide.
00:57:18.000 It's just moped city, and I'm the only guy out there.
00:57:22.000 I feel like I beat the system.
00:57:24.000 I'm jumping from spa.
00:57:24.000 I did six sets the other night, just jumping around on a moped.
00:57:27.000 Yeah, it's the best!
00:57:28.000 You park it right on the sidewalk, put a lock on it, you run in, run out, no parking, no tickets, no garages.
00:57:34.000 Do you worry about getting hit?
00:57:35.000 I do, but you've got to live, man.
00:57:37.000 I'm just living.
00:57:38.000 You're just living.
00:57:39.000 Yeah, and I'm going through red lights, I'm in the bike lane, I'm in the real lane, I'm all over the road, and I've got a podcast in my ear, I'm listening to Jim Jeffries or something while I'm zipping around, Malcolm Gladwell, you name it, and it's great!
00:57:53.000 I forgot my point.
00:57:54.000 Do you have a helmet on?
00:57:55.000 Nah, I gotta get a helmet.
00:57:56.000 Jesus, bro!
00:57:57.000 Well, come on.
00:57:58.000 You're not using a helmet?
00:57:59.000 Look at his hair!
00:58:00.000 I can't flatten that.
00:58:01.000 Beautiful, beautiful hair.
00:58:01.000 Thank you, thank you.
00:58:02.000 You don't have to wear a helmet in New York?
00:58:04.000 Oh, I see cops.
00:58:05.000 I peel off.
00:58:06.000 I go off to the left.
00:58:09.000 Illegally.
00:58:09.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:58:10.000 But I'm getting around, man.
00:58:11.000 I'm getting more material worked out than ever before.
00:58:13.000 And, you know, the city is so beautiful.
00:58:16.000 Like, I'm seeing, like, oh, my God, Times Square at night.
00:58:19.000 Then you turn off, like, oh, I'm on Fifth Avenue.
00:58:20.000 And then you're like, there's Grand Central.
00:58:22.000 And there's Alphabet City.
00:58:23.000 There's the West Village.
00:58:24.000 There's the arch in Washington Square Park.
00:58:26.000 It's so pretty.
00:58:27.000 And I got the wind in my hair.
00:58:28.000 And it's fall.
00:58:29.000 And I love this thing, man.
00:58:31.000 I highly recommend getting a moped.
00:58:32.000 And you go to Italy, you go to Rome, everybody's on a moped.
00:58:36.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:58:36.000 Why aren't we doing it?
00:58:37.000 And I don't want them to do it.
00:58:39.000 I feel like I got in early.
00:58:40.000 So are you the only one on a moped?
00:58:42.000 I'm the only comic moped-ing.
00:58:43.000 Do you see other people on mopeds and you give each other a nod?
00:58:46.000 It's just me and Chinese delivery drivers.
00:58:48.000 Do you give them a week and a nod?
00:58:49.000 They don't know my people and they don't care.
00:58:53.000 They're just zipping along with their noodles and moving on.
00:58:56.000 They don't care about me.
00:58:57.000 Do they have DoorDash in New York?
00:59:00.000 They must.
00:59:00.000 They must.
00:59:01.000 I don't know what that is.
00:59:01.000 It's everywhere.
00:59:02.000 But they must.
00:59:02.000 It's one of those deliveries because you call the restaurant.
00:59:05.000 Oh yeah, I'm sure.
00:59:05.000 You get it off your app.
00:59:07.000 Everybody does that shit.
00:59:08.000 Isn't that amazing?
00:59:09.000 You can see on Saturday all the hangover people getting their delivery.
00:59:12.000 What a genius idea because everybody before was trying to figure out like, God, why don't they deliver?
00:59:16.000 I wish they'd deliver.
00:59:17.000 And now a company said, we'll do it.
00:59:19.000 McDonald's delivers.
00:59:20.000 Wow.
00:59:21.000 It's kooky, man.
00:59:22.000 McDonald's delivers.
00:59:22.000 Weed delivers.
00:59:23.000 Everything is delivery.
00:59:24.000 How lazy do you have to be?
00:59:26.000 I feel like if you're going to torture your body with McDonald's, at the very least, you should get out of the house and go get it.
00:59:31.000 I agree.
00:59:31.000 I agree.
00:59:32.000 Just go earn it.
00:59:32.000 That's the peak of laziness.
00:59:34.000 Jamie's saying, nope, get it delivered.
00:59:36.000 About time.
00:59:37.000 You don't have enough time?
00:59:38.000 Yeah, you can buy time.
00:59:39.000 On your way home, order it and it can meet you there almost.
00:59:42.000 Ah, you got a point.
00:59:43.000 I like time.
00:59:44.000 Don't spend that half an hour in line to half an hour in traffic here.
00:59:46.000 Fuck that.
00:59:47.000 Yeah, that's a good point.
00:59:48.000 Isn't it kooky to think about when our parents were kids, how much time they spent on just getting somewhere or just writing a letter and then going to mail it, buying the stamp and then going to the post.
00:59:59.000 We can knock all that shit out with click one email.
01:00:02.000 Yeah.
01:00:02.000 Yeah.
01:00:03.000 So think about all the time you've accumulated just from not doing that one thing, let alone Ubering and flights.
01:00:11.000 Remember you used to call the travel agency?
01:00:13.000 Now you can just, boop, I got an app.
01:00:16.000 I got a Delta app.
01:00:18.000 That's so many minutes.
01:00:19.000 Counting over and over through your whole life.
01:00:21.000 So we can do pods.
01:00:22.000 We can do comedy.
01:00:23.000 We can do martial art.
01:00:24.000 We can go to the gym.
01:00:25.000 Before, people did one thing.
01:00:27.000 You had Jack LaLanne.
01:00:28.000 He was just a workout guy.
01:00:30.000 That was it.
01:00:30.000 Now you're a fucking renaissance guy.
01:00:32.000 You're all over the road.
01:00:33.000 You got 12 hobbies and two kids.
01:00:35.000 You're living.
01:00:37.000 I have three kids.
01:00:38.000 Three!
01:00:38.000 Sorry!
01:00:39.000 Shit, I thought one died.
01:00:40.000 But, you know, you're on the road as well.
01:00:42.000 I mean, we can do so much more because of all the time.
01:00:45.000 It's pretty amazing.
01:00:46.000 You can get a shirt.
01:00:47.000 Oh, I like that shirt.
01:00:48.000 Boom, it's at my house tomorrow.
01:00:49.000 One click.
01:00:49.000 Amazon.
01:00:50.000 It's amazing.
01:00:51.000 It's incredible.
01:00:52.000 We're in a good time except for all the complaining.
01:00:53.000 It's funny how you complain more when things are going great.
01:00:57.000 The better things are, more people complain.
01:00:59.000 I think the problem is more people have access to something that can broadcast their complaint.
01:01:04.000 That's what it is.
01:01:05.000 Sure, sure.
01:01:05.000 It's not just that more people complain than ever before.
01:01:08.000 I think you go to some poor town in India, even when they show the African kids with the distended belly, none of them are going, this sucks!
01:01:15.000 I hate it here!
01:01:16.000 They're still just sad.
01:01:17.000 They're not complaining.
01:01:18.000 You go to an Indian town, I think they're happier than we are, ironically.
01:01:22.000 I just think it's a broadcast issue.
01:01:24.000 I think it's a social media thing.
01:01:26.000 I don't think it hurts it.
01:01:27.000 I'm with you.
01:01:28.000 That's where the signal's coming from.
01:01:30.000 Otherwise, these whiny people have always existed.
01:01:33.000 We just didn't encounter them as frequently.
01:01:35.000 Sure, but I think we're arguing a different point.
01:01:38.000 I'm saying the more you have, the more you complain.
01:01:41.000 Yes.
01:01:41.000 Like, who's going to complain more?
01:01:43.000 The poor family out to dinner at the shitty restaurant or the rich cunt at the nice restaurant who goes, ah, my Dom P is warm.
01:01:50.000 It's room temperature.
01:01:51.000 She's got more, so she's got more to complain about.
01:01:54.000 Whereas the other family's just happy to be out at, you know, Sizzler.
01:01:57.000 Yeah, that is definitely true.
01:01:58.000 Yeah, we agree on that.
01:01:59.000 But the access to complain, and now we can hear about it, like Dave Chappelle said after his...
01:02:14.000 Right.
01:02:34.000 Yeah.
01:02:46.000 I got that today.
01:02:47.000 This is hate.
01:02:48.000 This is violence.
01:02:49.000 And they'll just keep hitting you with like 30, 40 of them in a row.
01:02:52.000 That's the same level of ambition and drive that causes someone to write a letter to Dave Chappelle 15 years ago.
01:03:00.000 And today, they'll just storm tweet you.
01:03:02.000 Like this tweet storm of 10 different angry messages to you in a row.
01:03:08.000 And those tweets hurt.
01:03:10.000 I don't think people realize they sting.
01:03:12.000 They just go, you're evil.
01:03:13.000 And you're like, you don't even know me.
01:03:14.000 That's crazy.
01:03:15.000 How cruel are you?
01:03:16.000 You're a bad person.
01:03:17.000 I know you think you're a hero, but you're a douche.
01:03:20.000 You're the problem.
01:03:22.000 You should be yelled at.
01:03:23.000 I just tried to make a joke.
01:03:24.000 You're like, well, your joke hurt people.
01:03:26.000 Yeah, but I wasn't trying to hurt people.
01:03:27.000 You're trying to hurt me.
01:03:29.000 Isn't that worse?
01:03:31.000 I have no intent on hurting anyone.
01:03:33.000 I'm just trying to be funny.
01:03:34.000 And then we reward these twats.
01:03:37.000 Like, what are we doing?
01:03:38.000 And that's all they're doing it for.
01:03:40.000 They're just doing it for that weird moment because they have nothing going on.
01:03:43.000 They just want to pat themselves on the back.
01:03:44.000 And also, if you hate my joke, go hate it.
01:03:47.000 Tell your friends.
01:03:48.000 Why do you have to publicly hate it?
01:03:49.000 That's when I think it gets fishy.
01:03:51.000 That's when I go, oh...
01:03:52.000 I think?
01:03:57.000 I think?
01:04:13.000 And that's okay.
01:04:14.000 But they want you to know.
01:04:16.000 They want you to know that they're offended.
01:04:18.000 Yeah, but sometimes they don't even at you.
01:04:20.000 This is what social media is for.
01:04:21.000 Sometimes they don't even at you.
01:04:22.000 They just go, I'm pissed at this guy and who's with me and all that.
01:04:25.000 And you're like, well, talk to me.
01:04:27.000 Just tell me how you feel and we'll work it out.
01:04:28.000 I didn't mean to hurt you.
01:04:30.000 Why are you telling everyone else?
01:04:32.000 Why does this have to be public?
01:04:33.000 That's where I raise an eyebrow.
01:04:34.000 Well, maybe they couldn't figure out a way to get a hold of you privately.
01:04:38.000 Oh, I mean, we got Twitter.
01:04:39.000 But even if they did, if someone's just complaining to you privately, you're going to go back and forth with this one person from one show?
01:04:45.000 I used to, and I gave it up.
01:04:47.000 The problem is it's a volume issue.
01:04:49.000 Right, right.
01:04:50.000 And the people that are more apt to complain are also more apt to be annoying.
01:04:55.000 It's possible.
01:04:56.000 Yeah, I can see that.
01:04:57.000 The numbers go up, at least, in terms of percentages.
01:05:00.000 It's a tool.
01:05:01.000 That's what it is.
01:05:02.000 It is.
01:05:02.000 It's this new broadcast tool.
01:05:04.000 Their tools.
01:05:05.000 And, ah, that too.
01:05:06.000 And people are using it irresponsibly.
01:05:08.000 Right.
01:05:08.000 And, you know, I think anybody using it to attack people, I mean, unless there's someone that really fucking deserves it, like they're doing something that's threatening democracy.
01:05:19.000 Of course, of course.
01:05:19.000 Or someone's health and life.
01:05:20.000 Yeah, so they're doxing people, you know, and you want everybody to know, hey, we've got a criminal amongst us.
01:05:27.000 Right, right.
01:05:27.000 Right.
01:05:28.000 Other than that, there's just too much hate.
01:05:30.000 It's a bandwidth issue for you as a human being.
01:05:33.000 I think you're right.
01:05:34.000 I was explaining this to a friend, talking about negative stuff.
01:05:39.000 Let's say your brain has 100 points of whatever the fuck it is that comprises your bandwidth.
01:05:46.000 If you think about something negative that you could avoid, you have 10 points that are now dedicated to this stupid thing that's bouncing around your head.
01:05:54.000 Now you only have 90 points for all the things you love.
01:05:57.000 Maybe there's a few other things.
01:05:58.000 And then maybe you go on Twitter and you start arguing with people.
01:06:01.000 Now it's 80% of your fucking bandwidth.
01:06:03.000 I know, but if you avoid it, then you start thinking, A, am I a bitch for not standing up for myself?
01:06:08.000 Or, B, am I out of the zeitgeist?
01:06:10.000 Should I be a little bit in the zeitgeist and keep up with a few things?
01:06:13.000 Am I out to lunch too much?
01:06:14.000 Am I out of touch?
01:06:16.000 Both valid points.
01:06:17.000 So then you got that to worry about.
01:06:19.000 Yeah.
01:06:19.000 But I just think it's, I don't know, it's kind of gross.
01:06:22.000 Like, that's why I like Andrew Yang.
01:06:25.000 I'm voting for Yang all day.
01:06:26.000 Yeah.
01:06:26.000 Because he got in, I don't want to bring up the whole SNL thing, because that's been done to death, but he emailed the guy or tweeted the guy and said, hey, let's talk.
01:06:36.000 Like, I don't like what you did, but it's a teachable moment or whatever, and we can, let's see if you're really a bad guy.
01:06:42.000 And I think that's the wokest thing of all.
01:06:43.000 Instead of just going, fuck this guy, I'll kill him.
01:06:45.000 Yeah.
01:06:46.000 The wokest thing is for the Asian guy to reach out and have a conversation.
01:06:49.000 Yeah, and he seems like a very sincere guy.
01:06:52.000 I've had him on the podcast and I've talked to him.
01:06:54.000 Andrew Yang is a very intelligent guy.
01:06:57.000 Yang gang.
01:06:59.000 But, you know, people would be suspicious.
01:07:01.000 Like, is he doing that to get attention?
01:07:04.000 I get that.
01:07:04.000 There's always going to be that.
01:07:05.000 Well, I'm, what do you call it, naive.
01:07:08.000 Or you're optimistic.
01:07:09.000 Or I'm optimistic.
01:07:10.000 I'm not saying that I would think he was.
01:07:13.000 But I did hear something.
01:07:14.000 Uh-oh.
01:07:15.000 Find out if this is true.
01:07:16.000 Don't ruin my Yang.
01:07:16.000 Did Andrew Yang say that he, the solution, like one of the things to stop getting people to eat meat is to tax it so high and make it so expensive they don't want it anymore?
01:07:28.000 No!
01:07:28.000 Oh, no.
01:07:30.000 I can't believe that he really said that.
01:07:31.000 It was one of those things in a Twitter tweet, and I looked at it on somebody else's page.
01:07:36.000 I just, out of nowhere, saw it.
01:07:38.000 I was like, I don't want to look into this.
01:07:39.000 Oh, no.
01:07:40.000 Let me check it later.
01:07:43.000 You're ruining my yang.
01:07:43.000 No, listen, I enjoyed the shit out of talking to that guy, and I think he's right about universal basic income.
01:07:47.000 I think we're going to run into a time where so many jobs are removed so quickly that people are going to be in a bad place.
01:07:54.000 And I think that if there was something that...
01:07:56.000 I could give them enough money for food and shelter and necessities so you could tide them over while they're looking for employment or try to change their life.
01:08:05.000 I think it'd be good for everybody.
01:08:06.000 Yeah, hear, hear.
01:08:07.000 I hear the arguments against it, too, though.
01:08:09.000 Some people say it kills people's motivation.
01:08:12.000 Right, there's that.
01:08:13.000 They don't have purpose, they don't have meaning, they're just getting free money.
01:08:17.000 We might have to check this live.
01:08:18.000 I can't watch the video.
01:08:19.000 It says, government needs to target cattle, modify Americans' diet to eat less meat.
01:08:27.000 Now that's weird.
01:08:28.000 I don't want you to tell me what to eat.
01:08:29.000 Here's the thing, you can't say that because there's people that would, I mean, he's going to experience this.
01:08:34.000 There's a whole group online called Defending Beef that talks about ranchers and the way people look at the cattle industry and that a lot of it has been sort of distorted.
01:08:45.000 And one cow feeds a lot of fucking people.
01:08:50.000 Sure.
01:08:50.000 I mean, a lot of fucking people from one cow.
01:08:53.000 Yeah.
01:08:53.000 And it's one death.
01:08:54.000 I don't know if people consider a cow to be a better life than a mouse.
01:08:59.000 Use the whole buffalo is what I'm saying.
01:09:02.000 If the cow is supposed to have a more important life than a mouse, but if you're buying grain, I can guarantee you that there's mice that have died in the procuring of that grain.
01:09:15.000 Yeah.
01:09:17.000 All kinds of shit gets fucking chopped up in them.
01:09:20.000 A lot of things die.
01:09:21.000 Animals get displaced.
01:09:23.000 Pesticides kill them.
01:09:24.000 When you see buzzards flying over fields after they cut the crops down, that's because there's dead animals all in there.
01:09:31.000 A lot of them.
01:09:32.000 That's a fact.
01:09:36.000 This idea that the way to stop people from killing is to try to alter the American diet, get them to stop eating meat.
01:09:46.000 It's not sustainable to look at it this way.
01:09:49.000 We're looking at it in a dishonest way.
01:09:51.000 He doesn't know all the facts.
01:09:53.000 He doesn't know all the facts in terms of nutrition value.
01:09:56.000 There's way more nutrition value in steak, especially grass-fed steak, especially for the way your body digests proteins and enzymes.
01:10:07.000 This idea that a plant-based diet is all you need to go by and that we all need to move on to that, that is not right for everybody.
01:10:14.000 No, I agree.
01:10:15.000 It's just not.
01:10:17.000 Yeah.
01:10:39.000 And everybody agrees that this is acceptable, and this is a part of being a human, and this is the cycle of life.
01:10:45.000 Yeah.
01:10:45.000 Now, you don't have to agree with that.
01:10:47.000 But for you to say you're going to change the entire American diet, well, that's nonsense.
01:10:50.000 You ain't changing shit.
01:10:51.000 No, no.
01:10:52.000 You're not changing shit.
01:10:53.000 I don't know if that's exactly how he said it.
01:10:55.000 I don't think, reading it, I can't hear what he said, but...
01:10:58.000 People get roped into propaganda.
01:11:00.000 Yeah, that's scary.
01:11:01.000 And I thought he was against propaganda.
01:11:03.000 That's why I like he's like a computer, you know?
01:11:05.000 But I think...
01:11:06.000 When you say it about the environment, this is a big one.
01:11:08.000 This is really big.
01:11:09.000 Because they're always talking about the cattle industry and its effect on the environment.
01:11:12.000 The farting.
01:11:12.000 There's a fucking...
01:11:14.000 I've got a chart on Sean Baker's page, Dr. Sean Baker, the guy who's the carnivore advocate, but it shows in a pie chart how much of the methane that's produced and how much of the effect on the environment is because of the ranching and cattle industry.
01:11:31.000 It's this tiny little sliver.
01:11:32.000 Oh, really?
01:11:33.000 Tiny little sliver, yeah.
01:11:34.000 Oh, they act like it's putting a hole in ozone layer.
01:11:35.000 Dude, it's fucking pollution, man.
01:11:37.000 Oh, interesting.
01:11:38.000 It's factories, it's trucks and cars.
01:11:41.000 I was talking about the ozone layer.
01:11:42.000 I don't know if this is right, not a scientist, that it's getting smaller for the first time in 20 years.
01:11:49.000 It's probably from cow farts.
01:11:50.000 Cow farts are healing it.
01:11:52.000 Smaller is good?
01:11:54.000 I just don't like a guy who thinks he's going to fix the diet of everyone.
01:11:58.000 Have you had any debates with people who are pro-carnivore or pro-omnivorous diet?
01:12:04.000 People that have changed their health because they started eating organ meats?
01:12:07.000 I mean, there's a guy named Chris Kresser.
01:12:09.000 I've had him on my show a couple of times.
01:12:11.000 He explains what goes wrong with a vegetable-based diet, with a vegan diet, with some people.
01:12:19.000 Some people have these nutritional deficiencies and it leads itself to chronic illness.
01:12:24.000 And it happened with him and he explains it.
01:12:26.000 It doesn't mean that you can't live on a vegetable diet.
01:12:29.000 The problem is people get cultish with this shit and they jump on, you know, they want you to think only the way they do and they have virtue in their way of living.
01:12:40.000 The virtue is the problem.
01:12:40.000 The vegans want you to think that they're doing right and they're causing no harm.
01:12:45.000 Unless you're growing your own fucking vegetables in your own little organic backyard, you're definitely causing some harm.
01:12:51.000 Are you causing less animal harm?
01:12:53.000 Well, that's debatable.
01:12:54.000 What about insects?
01:12:55.000 Do you count insects?
01:12:56.000 Because they're getting smashed and crushed if you're getting large-scale grain operations.
01:13:00.000 Yeah.
01:13:01.000 Yeah, well, we do it all day long, but could you imagine if we took meat away?
01:13:03.000 We'd have, like, meat speakeasies and shit, where we'd have to, like, hide meat.
01:13:07.000 They're doing it in certain schools.
01:13:09.000 Really?
01:13:09.000 Yeah, they're doing it in cool schools.
01:13:11.000 They're giving kids meatless meals.
01:13:12.000 It's fucking terrible for them.
01:13:14.000 Really?
01:13:14.000 Yeah, for developing kids.
01:13:16.000 Well, cafeteria food was never top-notch.
01:13:18.000 It's all dog shit, right?
01:13:20.000 Yeah.
01:13:20.000 Yeah.
01:13:20.000 But they need some animal protein.
01:13:23.000 Most kids do when they're growing up.
01:13:25.000 I mean, this is one of the reasons why vegans have been arrested for having malnourished babies.
01:13:30.000 Oh, is that right?
01:13:30.000 Yeah, you never heard of that?
01:13:31.000 No, I don't read the news.
01:13:32.000 It's really common that vegans get arrested for having malnourished babies.
01:13:36.000 It's been in the news many times.
01:13:38.000 Oh, jeez.
01:13:38.000 Many different versions of it.
01:13:39.000 That's terrifying.
01:13:40.000 It's like you're not getting enough nutrients.
01:13:42.000 I grew up on a lot of shellfish, and I've noticed a lot of my New York friends can't eat shellfish.
01:13:46.000 Yeah, it's real common.
01:13:47.000 Yeah.
01:13:48.000 It's a real common illness.
01:13:48.000 But it's so good.
01:13:49.000 Imagine not having shrimp.
01:13:50.000 I know.
01:13:51.000 That's kooky.
01:13:51.000 I would have to kill myself.
01:13:53.000 We found out on Fear Factor that if you're allergic to shellfish, you're also allergic to roaches.
01:13:58.000 What?
01:13:59.000 Yeah.
01:13:59.000 I grew up with both of those.
01:14:00.000 There you go.
01:14:01.000 Not eating.
01:14:02.000 We wrote, but we had a shitty house.
01:14:03.000 We had an episode of Fear Factor where we served these people in Madagascar hissing cockroaches.
01:14:08.000 This guy's throat started closing up.
01:14:10.000 Just seeing it?
01:14:11.000 No.
01:14:11.000 Just being around it?
01:14:12.000 Because he ate one.
01:14:12.000 Oh, he ate one?
01:14:13.000 Yeah.
01:14:13.000 Oh!
01:14:14.000 So they have to call the EMT, and I think they shoot you up with adrenaline.
01:14:18.000 Wow!
01:14:19.000 Yeah, did you have roaches in your house as a kid?
01:14:21.000 Oh, yeah.
01:14:21.000 Me too.
01:14:22.000 They would fly.
01:14:22.000 Remember that?
01:14:23.000 I don't remember too many of them flying.
01:14:24.000 That might be a New Orleans thing.
01:14:25.000 That might be a Louisiana thing.
01:14:27.000 Is that where you grew up?
01:14:28.000 Yeah, Cajun.
01:14:28.000 You grew up in New Orleans?
01:14:29.000 I grew up in the heart of New Orleans.
01:14:31.000 Treme was the name of my neighborhood.
01:14:33.000 Theo Vaughn was like more sticks outside of it, but I was in the city, and it was terrifying.
01:14:39.000 It was a rough and tumble city when I was there.
01:14:42.000 My dad got a wild hair at his ass and bought a dilapidated mansion in a poor black neighborhood.
01:14:48.000 No running water for a while.
01:14:49.000 He turned the back half into a bed and breakfast because we ran out of money.
01:14:53.000 It was a crate we got robbed all the time because we were the white family in the neighborhood, and everybody thought we had money because of our big house.
01:14:59.000 So we got robbed constantly.
01:15:01.000 I walked in on a couple robberies as a kid.
01:15:03.000 My alarm would go off at like 2 in the morning.
01:15:06.000 It's like an 8-year-old.
01:15:06.000 You just know there's a guy in your living room scrapping around.
01:15:10.000 Oh, wow.
01:15:10.000 I think that's why I'm so squirrely because that really fucked with me.
01:15:14.000 Oh, for sure.
01:15:14.000 My bike got stolen all the time from under me.
01:15:17.000 I had a transvestite nanny growing up named Enos.
01:15:21.000 I know this sounds crazy.
01:15:24.000 They don't use that word anymore.
01:15:25.000 What is that?
01:15:26.000 Transvestite.
01:15:27.000 Well, he wasn't...
01:15:29.000 Trans, he just had women's clothing on.
01:15:32.000 Right.
01:15:32.000 Like Mrs. Doubtfire.
01:15:33.000 Right.
01:15:33.000 But, like, they don't...
01:15:34.000 When was the last time you saw someone even refer to things that way?
01:15:37.000 Well, what is it?
01:15:37.000 Drag Queen?
01:15:39.000 I don't know what you would call it now.
01:15:40.000 Like either you're trans or you're transgender or you're non-binary?
01:15:44.000 What are you?
01:15:45.000 He was a dude.
01:15:45.000 He was a big black dude.
01:15:46.000 Right.
01:15:47.000 He looked like Ving Rhames, but he would wear high heels and a wig.
01:15:50.000 Yeah.
01:15:51.000 And he would sweep the house.
01:15:53.000 So was he trans?
01:15:54.000 He had a dick.
01:15:55.000 I don't know.
01:15:56.000 Can you say trans and then it's all inclusive?
01:15:59.000 Transvestite and transgender?
01:16:00.000 I guess.
01:16:01.000 Why not, right?
01:16:02.000 Yeah, but that's a big umbrella.
01:16:04.000 I think they've abandoned transvestite.
01:16:17.000 No.
01:16:25.000 No.
01:16:32.000 Okay.
01:16:33.000 Cross-dresser.
01:16:34.000 Whatever.
01:16:34.000 Where's the compassion for the guy who lost his gig?
01:16:36.000 I'm sorry for getting lost in the weeds.
01:16:37.000 So you had a...
01:16:37.000 So I had a transgender, a transvestite nanny, and he taught me everything.
01:16:41.000 He taught me how to fight and put the seat up and go on a date with a girl and how to do this with a car.
01:16:46.000 Yeah, because my parents were always working because the house was so big they had to afford it.
01:16:50.000 That's so ridiculous.
01:16:51.000 It was crazy, man.
01:16:52.000 We had roaches and mice.
01:16:54.000 I remember we didn't have lights in the house.
01:16:56.000 We had those mechanic lamps in your room.
01:16:59.000 Really?
01:17:00.000 Yeah, had a light in your room.
01:17:01.000 It was a weird way to grow up, but then the back half was serene.
01:17:05.000 It was like a bed and breakfast, and we had traveling musicians and Asian businessmen coming in.
01:17:10.000 I tried to pitch this as a show, and everybody's like, this is too dark.
01:17:13.000 Ha!
01:17:14.000 Nobody would take it.
01:17:15.000 But the racial tension was insane.
01:17:18.000 How many times do you guys think you get robbed?
01:17:20.000 Oh, I mean, you get robbed real good, like six times a year.
01:17:24.000 Whoa!
01:17:24.000 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
01:17:25.000 And you guys stayed.
01:17:26.000 Yeah.
01:17:27.000 How about this?
01:17:28.000 So Enos was like my male role model, you know, this big black guy in a wig.
01:17:34.000 And one time I was riding home from summer camp, and, you know, these three street toughs, you know, were coming up next to me, three of them like, hey, man, let us try your bike.
01:17:43.000 And I was like, ah, I'm good.
01:17:45.000 You know, I knew what they wanted.
01:17:46.000 And I was like, I'm good.
01:17:47.000 No, thank you.
01:17:47.000 And they're like, come on.
01:17:48.000 They're doing their back tire or their front tire against my back.
01:17:51.000 You know, that move starting to skid me out a little bit.
01:17:54.000 So I go, all right, all right.
01:17:55.000 And these kids are 17. I'm probably like 13. And they're like, all right, let me just try it.
01:18:00.000 So I remember I kept my hand on the handle.
01:18:02.000 And he got on it.
01:18:03.000 And he's like, ah.
01:18:03.000 And he just brushed my hand away and just went, check you, and rode off.
01:18:07.000 And I was like, ah.
01:18:08.000 So I ran home crying.
01:18:10.000 And I got there.
01:18:11.000 And Enos was like, what happened?
01:18:11.000 I'm like, ah.
01:18:13.000 A couple of kids took my bike, and it was like the fourth time.
01:18:15.000 So he's like, fuck that.
01:18:17.000 Get in the van.
01:18:18.000 I'm like, I'm good.
01:18:19.000 I'm so defeated.
01:18:20.000 It's so emasculating.
01:18:22.000 You feel like a bitch.
01:18:24.000 So I was like, I'm good.
01:18:25.000 He's like, get in the van.
01:18:26.000 We had a big van, and we're driving around the neighborhood looking for my bike.
01:18:30.000 I don't want to see these guys again.
01:18:31.000 I just want to let it go.
01:18:33.000 And he's like, we're going to find that bike.
01:18:35.000 We're driving around, and we go some back streets, and we see these kids on a stoop taking it apart, because you've got to camouflage it a little.
01:18:42.000 So I'm like, and he's like, is that your bike?
01:18:43.000 I'm like, yeah.
01:18:43.000 I'm slunched down and shotgun.
01:18:45.000 Like, yeah, it's my bike.
01:18:46.000 Let's get out of here.
01:18:47.000 Fuck it.
01:18:47.000 Abort.
01:18:48.000 And he goes up to these guys.
01:18:49.000 He walks up to these guys, and he's wearing high heels, a wig, and like a v-neck, and he looks weird.
01:18:56.000 It's the 90s.
01:18:57.000 And he goes up to these guys, and they're all going, ah!
01:18:59.000 They all lose it because they're like, look at this fucking fag.
01:19:02.000 They're all going crazy and they're flipping out and call them names and stuff.
01:19:05.000 And this guy was stone cold.
01:19:07.000 And he goes, that's not your bike.
01:19:08.000 And I go, what are you going to do about it?
01:19:10.000 And this is like five kids with tools, you know?
01:19:12.000 And he goes, I'm going to take it back.
01:19:14.000 And they were like, I don't think you are or whatever.
01:19:17.000 And I remember he put his hand on the middle bar of the bike just to kind of see what happened.
01:19:22.000 Looked him in the eye, yanked it.
01:19:25.000 And he said, that's what I thought.
01:19:26.000 Threw the bike over his shoulder, walked to the van, slid the door open, threw it in, closed the door, we drove home.
01:19:32.000 Whoa.
01:19:32.000 Unbelievable!
01:19:33.000 I mean, talk about a 13-year-old seeing like that's like, oh, that's what a man is.
01:19:38.000 That changed my life.
01:19:40.000 Wow.
01:19:41.000 Unbelievable.
01:19:41.000 I never rode it again, mind you.
01:19:43.000 What if they beat him to death with wrenches?
01:19:45.000 And you're stuck in the van crying.
01:19:47.000 I would have learned to drive real quick.
01:19:49.000 Did he leave the keys?
01:19:51.000 No.
01:19:52.000 I think he did, yeah.
01:19:53.000 I think it was running.
01:19:54.000 But I just, because you know when you're a kid and you see these bully types, you're just like, I could never beat him.
01:20:00.000 And then to see someone beat him was so, it was mind-boggling.
01:20:05.000 I loved him ever since then.
01:20:08.000 I mean, I loved him before, but...
01:20:09.000 You still in touch with him?
01:20:10.000 No, he died.
01:20:11.000 He got killed in a sexual encounter.
01:20:13.000 Oh, wow.
01:20:14.000 Like he was hooking up with a guy and the dong came out and the guy flipped and killed him.
01:20:18.000 Fff.
01:20:19.000 Yeah, he was like a burlesque dancer by night, so he got into his...
01:20:22.000 You know, New Orleans is a wild devil of a lady.
01:20:26.000 But yeah, he was a good egg, and I needed him growing up because I had no parents around, you know?
01:20:33.000 My parents are weird.
01:20:35.000 I don't know if you noticed, but I can't make eye contact.
01:20:38.000 I've been doing it pretty good, but yeah, I don't know how to connect.
01:20:42.000 But that Enos stuff was great.
01:20:45.000 He was a cool dude.
01:20:48.000 You've always had that with your parents?
01:20:50.000 Did they do that with you as well?
01:20:52.000 They don't connect with you?
01:20:53.000 Yeah, they're like military, tough, you know.
01:20:56.000 You know, they provide it and all that.
01:20:58.000 But I think that's why I like comedy.
01:20:59.000 Because, you know, the audience laughs and you go, hey, hey, we're feeling this.
01:21:03.000 There's something happening here.
01:21:04.000 Yeah, right, right.
01:21:04.000 And I like the truth of comedy because you go, okay, I'm not crazy.
01:21:08.000 We're all agreeance.
01:21:10.000 Yeah.
01:21:10.000 Because the laugh is kind of an agreeance in a weird way.
01:21:14.000 Yeah, everybody's like, right?
01:21:16.000 Yeah, exactly!
01:21:18.000 That's why the involuntariness of a laugh is interesting because you couldn't help it.
01:21:26.000 You fucked that word up so much, I forgot what the real words mean.
01:21:29.000 Involuntary?
01:21:30.000 Involuntary-ness of it.
01:21:32.000 Is that a word?
01:21:33.000 Involuntariness?
01:21:34.000 Probably not.
01:21:35.000 Involuntary-ability?
01:21:36.000 Yeah.
01:21:38.000 Involuntary?
01:21:39.000 Involuntary.
01:21:40.000 I think it would just be involuntary.
01:21:42.000 I guess the involuntary...
01:21:44.000 Response?
01:21:44.000 Yeah, okay.
01:21:45.000 The involuntary response is so...
01:21:48.000 You can't help it that...
01:21:50.000 Is that a word?
01:21:52.000 Involuntariness.
01:21:52.000 Wow!
01:21:54.000 That's public school, folks.
01:21:56.000 Look at that.
01:21:58.000 Involuntariness.
01:21:59.000 I love that.
01:21:59.000 I don't think I've ever heard that before.
01:22:01.000 Have you ever heard it before?
01:22:02.000 It's with an I instead of a Y. Wow, look at it there.
01:22:05.000 There you go.
01:22:05.000 See, we're learning.
01:22:06.000 Love of language.
01:22:07.000 It doesn't even look right.
01:22:09.000 If someone sent me that in a text, I'd be like, you verbose piece of shit.
01:22:13.000 Verbose is not bad either there, fatty.
01:22:15.000 Who are you trying to...
01:22:17.000 That's pretty good.
01:22:20.000 Involuntaryness.
01:22:21.000 Yeah.
01:22:22.000 Wow.
01:22:23.000 I know, that's...
01:22:24.000 Acting or done without one's will.
01:22:26.000 An involuntary participant in what turned out to be an argument.
01:22:29.000 There you go.
01:22:30.000 Interesting.
01:22:31.000 Look at that, we're learning!
01:22:32.000 We are fucking learning here.
01:22:33.000 But yeah, you've been to New Orleans before, huh?
01:22:36.000 I loved it.
01:22:36.000 It's a weird city.
01:22:38.000 I did a gig there a couple years ago was the last time I was there, I think.
01:22:40.000 Maybe two years ago?
01:22:41.000 Not the best crowds, if I'm being honest.
01:22:43.000 Because comedy's not our thing.
01:22:44.000 We like strippers and booze and parties and, you know, brothels and all that.
01:22:50.000 But Mardi Gras, jazz.
01:22:52.000 Comedy's not ours.
01:22:54.000 It was fun.
01:22:55.000 I enjoyed it.
01:22:56.000 I had a good time.
01:22:57.000 I was there once.
01:22:58.000 I did a House of Blues there.
01:22:59.000 And then after my show, there was a burlesque show.
01:23:02.000 And I stuck around to watch the burlesque show.
01:23:04.000 And I just didn't quite get it.
01:23:07.000 Yeah, burlesque sucks.
01:23:08.000 It seemed like...
01:23:09.000 Let's be honest.
01:23:10.000 Yeah.
01:23:11.000 It's like, just either strip or become a real dancer.
01:23:15.000 It was confusing.
01:23:17.000 You're taking something off, but it's not all the way, so the whole thing is a tease.
01:23:21.000 Well, it's also like, why are you dancing that way?
01:23:24.000 What is this?
01:23:25.000 Yeah, right.
01:23:26.000 Is it sexy?
01:23:27.000 Is it not sexy?
01:23:28.000 Am I gay?
01:23:29.000 Yeah, it's also in my own head.
01:23:31.000 I'm like, why do I give a fuck?
01:23:32.000 People like it.
01:23:33.000 It's very indulgent.
01:23:34.000 It feels like this is all for you.
01:23:36.000 This should be an even thing here.
01:23:38.000 I should be entertained.
01:23:39.000 Right, but also some people must enjoy it.
01:23:41.000 They have burlesque shows, so why do I give a fuck if other people enjoy what I think is dumb?
01:23:45.000 No, I don't care if they enjoy it.
01:23:47.000 I just...
01:23:47.000 I do.
01:23:48.000 Oh.
01:23:49.000 I get mad at them.
01:23:50.000 Well, they can do whatever the hell they got bad taste.
01:23:51.000 I know.
01:23:51.000 I mean, I'm just upset at myself for wanting to know why.
01:23:55.000 Why people...
01:23:56.000 When there's certain things that people like that I don't like, I want to know why.
01:23:59.000 I guess I have that, too.
01:24:00.000 I'm like, what do you see in that comic?
01:24:02.000 Sure.
01:24:02.000 Really?
01:24:02.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.
01:24:03.000 That guy?
01:24:03.000 Or that gal?
01:24:04.000 Yeah.
01:24:05.000 If you have to follow someone that's terrible and the audience is laughing, you have disdain for them.
01:24:13.000 Completely.
01:24:13.000 Did you really laugh at that?
01:24:14.000 Yes!
01:24:14.000 That nonsense?
01:24:15.000 I know.
01:24:16.000 And movies, too.
01:24:18.000 But then we all have our guilty pleasure bullshit, too, don't we?
01:24:21.000 For sure.
01:24:22.000 We all have our thing we like, so you've got to be sympathetic.
01:24:25.000 Yeah, man.
01:24:26.000 It's less time worrying about what other people like.
01:24:29.000 Yeah.
01:24:30.000 Live your life.
01:24:31.000 I think there's a lot of people just looking for problems.
01:24:34.000 Oh, for sure.
01:24:35.000 Dude!
01:24:35.000 They're not that big.
01:24:36.000 Have you seen the documentary They Shall Never Grow Old?
01:24:42.000 Do you want a fake beer?
01:24:43.000 Sure.
01:24:44.000 This is a Heineken Zero.
01:24:45.000 All right.
01:24:46.000 It tastes like Heineken.
01:24:47.000 All right.
01:24:48.000 There's not any alcohol in it, but we're drinking alcohol.
01:24:50.000 You ever tried that White Claw, by the way?
01:24:53.000 Yes.
01:24:53.000 Woo!
01:24:54.000 That stuff's exciting, huh?
01:24:55.000 That's exciting.
01:24:55.000 It's exciting when a new thing is invented.
01:24:57.000 Remember when Red Bull was new?
01:24:59.000 That was exciting.
01:24:59.000 Now Uber, and now White Claw.
01:25:01.000 Yeah.
01:25:01.000 I love White Claw.
01:25:02.000 What exactly is in it?
01:25:03.000 I think a lot of people forgot about Zima ever existed.
01:25:06.000 I liked Zima.
01:25:07.000 You were the one.
01:25:08.000 I would drink Zima.
01:25:09.000 People would get mad at me.
01:25:11.000 They'd say it's not manly enough.
01:25:13.000 I'm like, I wear a fanny pack, too.
01:25:14.000 I don't give a fuck.
01:25:15.000 I like Zima.
01:25:16.000 It's just hard Stelzer water.
01:25:18.000 Tastes good.
01:25:18.000 Yeah, and it's less filling.
01:25:20.000 Why is it supposed to be manly to drink something that tastes like shit?
01:25:24.000 Like, what is that?
01:25:24.000 Well, how did, like, wine coolers go for guys in the 90s?
01:25:27.000 Well, that's all sugar.
01:25:29.000 Yeah, but if you were a guy and you were into wine coolers, you cried a lot.
01:25:32.000 You were into James Taylor.
01:25:34.000 Yeah.
01:25:34.000 You wanted to do picnics.
01:25:36.000 You would fucking, like, meticulously make a picnic.
01:25:39.000 There's fucking alcohol, though, right?
01:25:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:25:41.000 Barely.
01:25:41.000 Barely.
01:25:42.000 You're into wine coolers.
01:25:43.000 The girl's gonna leave you.
01:25:44.000 It's true, and that's the weird thing about it.
01:25:46.000 Oh, we should all have emotions, but yet there's a little tinge in your veg when I pop a wine cooler.
01:25:51.000 That's not good.
01:25:52.000 It's drying up.
01:25:53.000 They want you to have a level of emotions.
01:25:56.000 Just to know you care.
01:25:57.000 Exactly.
01:25:58.000 That's what makes us interesting, is we're different.
01:26:00.000 We like to go pretend like we're the same.
01:26:02.000 But if we're the same, how come men suck?
01:26:04.000 Yeah, when the shit hits the fan, you're going to want us around.
01:26:07.000 Right, right, right.
01:26:08.000 Wine's okay, though.
01:26:09.000 Wine's fine.
01:26:10.000 Wine's sophisticated.
01:26:11.000 Wine tastes like shit.
01:26:13.000 I hate wine.
01:26:14.000 I'm with you.
01:26:15.000 I mean, you can't drink wine the way you could drink, like, 7-Up.
01:26:19.000 You know, 7-Up, you could just throw back a glass of 7-Up.
01:26:23.000 You can't drink wine.
01:26:25.000 I mean, you could, for sure.
01:26:27.000 There's actually a couple.
01:26:28.000 You can get squirrely.
01:26:29.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:26:30.000 Crazy Chardonnay.
01:26:31.000 Drink a bottle.
01:26:32.000 Oh, sure.
01:26:32.000 We're not saying that.
01:26:34.000 We're just saying it sucks.
01:26:35.000 Chardonnay's not wine.
01:26:35.000 That's girls' wine.
01:26:36.000 Okay.
01:26:37.000 Okay.
01:26:37.000 All right.
01:26:38.000 But red wine.
01:26:39.000 Like, no one drinks a glass of red wine like a 7-Up.
01:26:42.000 You know what I mean?
01:26:43.000 Yeah, maybe like a wino.
01:26:44.000 Yeah, like an iced tea.
01:26:45.000 You drink an iced tea, you drink the iced tea.
01:26:47.000 Yes.
01:26:48.000 You never drink wine like that.
01:26:49.000 It makes you thirstier.
01:26:51.000 You sip it.
01:26:51.000 You enjoy it.
01:26:52.000 I like it that way.
01:26:53.000 I enjoy wine.
01:26:54.000 I don't like it.
01:26:55.000 But it doesn't taste good in terms of like, it's a different kind of taste.
01:27:00.000 Like, I enjoy the taste.
01:27:02.000 Yeah, it makes my tongue thick.
01:27:04.000 I don't like it.
01:27:05.000 You know what I mean?
01:27:06.000 I hate that.
01:27:07.000 It's like a brick of wood and you've got the purple lips, the red teeth.
01:27:10.000 Come on.
01:27:11.000 I understand.
01:27:11.000 I feel you.
01:27:12.000 I know what you're saying.
01:27:13.000 But see this movie.
01:27:14.000 It's going to change it.
01:27:15.000 I saw it on the plane.
01:27:17.000 It was blowing my mind on the plane here.
01:27:19.000 There it is.
01:27:21.000 I know we're getting into, like, dude shit here, and I sound like an asshole, but...
01:27:25.000 Peter Jackson did it.
01:27:28.000 It's so well done.
01:27:29.000 It's unbelievable.
01:27:30.000 The footage they have of World War I is unbelievable.
01:27:33.000 And I'm not, like, a war buff or anything.
01:27:35.000 It's unbelievable what these people went through and how they joked through it and how they had smiles and how they had to shit themselves and they got gangrene and they couldn't clip their toenails but the camaraderie and the fact that they wanted to go to war.
01:27:47.000 You talk about having goals.
01:27:48.000 They're like, I got nothing going on.
01:27:49.000 The factory's closed.
01:27:51.000 I'm going to war.
01:27:51.000 Fuck it.
01:27:52.000 And they all died.
01:27:53.000 80% of them died.
01:27:55.000 But the ones that came back, they're like, I saw my best friend next to me.
01:27:57.000 They all talked to the old people.
01:27:59.000 You never hear this shit.
01:28:01.000 It's amazing this footage they have.
01:28:03.000 Unbelievable.
01:28:04.000 This is them practicing.
01:28:05.000 This is nothing.
01:28:06.000 But when they get into the shit, they show it.
01:28:08.000 They got footage of people's heads blowing off and just the fear in their eyes.
01:28:12.000 These are 19-year-old kids smoking cigarettes.
01:28:14.000 Their fingers are shaking.
01:28:16.000 And you're like, I can barely...
01:28:17.000 I'm nervous to make a phone call.
01:28:19.000 I don't want to check my voicemails.
01:28:20.000 Oh, look at their teeth.
01:28:21.000 They're British, first of all.
01:28:23.000 Their teeth are fucked.
01:28:23.000 Back that up, though.
01:28:24.000 Back that up.
01:28:25.000 Look at their fucking teeth.
01:28:27.000 Look at these guys.
01:28:28.000 Well, they don't have a toothpaste out there.
01:28:29.000 Look at that.
01:28:30.000 Look at their teeth.
01:28:30.000 These are kids that are living out in the land.
01:28:33.000 Look at their fucking teeth.
01:28:34.000 They got one uniform for four years.
01:28:36.000 One uniform.
01:28:37.000 Wow.
01:28:37.000 The boots were hell.
01:28:39.000 I mean, the cigarettes were currency.
01:28:42.000 It was crazy.
01:28:44.000 Your rifle was your best friend.
01:28:45.000 I mean, it makes you realize how weak you are and how tough they were.
01:28:49.000 And look, that's from mustard gas.
01:28:51.000 Now they gotta walk the blind guys around.
01:28:53.000 Like, everything was a thing.
01:28:54.000 They had to dig trenches every day.
01:28:56.000 It was brutal!
01:28:56.000 Look at that!
01:28:57.000 Come on!
01:28:58.000 The rats!
01:28:59.000 My God, the rats!
01:29:00.000 Wow.
01:29:02.000 Yeah, crazy.
01:29:03.000 And then the stench of the dead horses, they said, was indescribable.
01:29:06.000 I mean, it's...
01:29:07.000 How long was the movie?
01:29:08.000 Eh, you know, it's an hour and change.
01:29:10.000 Fuck.
01:29:11.000 This is their day off, and they said on their day off, they didn't know what to do.
01:29:14.000 They just was like, we just were shot at for four years and bombed at, and now we're sitting here, and they said it was just silence the whole day.
01:29:20.000 They didn't know what to talk about or what.
01:29:22.000 Like, that's them playing.
01:29:23.000 They're trying to make the most of it.
01:29:24.000 The guy said it was weird how much comedy came up, because you needed it.
01:29:27.000 You were so miserable.
01:29:29.000 Yeah.
01:29:30.000 Oh, dude, you gotta see it.
01:29:31.000 Wow.
01:29:32.000 This should be required viewing.
01:29:35.000 That guy just shot his own helmet off on accident.
01:29:38.000 Now, they got a beer.
01:29:39.000 I mean, it's crazy.
01:29:40.000 The gas mask, I don't know who that kid is.
01:29:42.000 That's them burying.
01:29:43.000 I mean, it's unbelievable.
01:29:44.000 The footage!
01:29:45.000 I can't believe they pulled this footage together.
01:29:46.000 Wow.
01:29:47.000 I'm really talking it up.
01:29:49.000 And I'm not a war guy, but it's so well done.
01:29:53.000 It should be required viewing in every school.
01:29:55.000 Well, that's about as far back as we can go, right?
01:29:58.000 Maybe.
01:29:58.000 With film?
01:29:59.000 Maybe.
01:30:00.000 What was the earliest film?
01:30:02.000 It was like the late 1800s, right?
01:30:04.000 Was that the earliest film?
01:30:05.000 Yeah.
01:30:06.000 And as far as historical events like war, that's probably as far back as we can go.
01:30:10.000 There can't be a lot of sound they have then, right?
01:30:12.000 A little bit.
01:30:12.000 Not much.
01:30:13.000 Not much.
01:30:14.000 All narration.
01:30:15.000 Okay.
01:30:15.000 Yeah.
01:30:15.000 If you think about historical events that were documented, like how far back did they go before World War I? It's about...
01:30:22.000 Yeah, that's 1914, so probably nothing.
01:30:25.000 Maybe some reels, like that spinny Cinescope thing.
01:30:29.000 That's a window in time, you know?
01:30:31.000 Oh, yeah.
01:30:31.000 They had nothing going on.
01:30:33.000 And the weird thing is they said when they came back, nobody gave a fuck.
01:30:37.000 They're like, I just saw this, and people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're doing this now.
01:30:40.000 And he's like, I just gave my life for you and this, and everybody's like, yeah, what are you going to do?
01:30:44.000 That's weird.
01:30:44.000 They had a different appreciation for life.
01:30:47.000 And, you know, the guys that do wind up going to war, one of the things that, you know who Sebastian Younger is?
01:30:54.000 He's a journalist who wrote books on war.
01:30:57.000 And he wrote a book called Tribe.
01:30:59.000 It's a really interesting book.
01:31:00.000 It talked a lot about this sort of thing that happens with these guys like Hurt Locker.
01:31:06.000 Remember the guy who wanted to go back?
01:31:07.000 Yeah.
01:31:08.000 The sense of camaraderie and of being alive and the excitement of life, it's like this heightened state.
01:31:15.000 So many of them describe wartime, this horrific time, as some of the most memorable moments of their life, the happiest moments of their life, the most attached to their brothers and their comrades.
01:31:26.000 Right.
01:31:27.000 It boils everything down to the basics of survival, and I think we've kind of lost that.
01:31:32.000 Now we have so much, you know, we've got Dine and Dash, or whatever the hell you said, Diner Dash, whatever.
01:31:36.000 You know, the McDonald's is coming right to you.
01:31:39.000 Yeah, like, you don't have to, the survival, we've cushioned it so much that we're sitting up here on eight blankets, eight mattresses, where it used to be just, you're on the floor.
01:31:48.000 Yeah, and I think the heightened experience of knowing that life is fleeting and seeing people die around you.
01:31:54.000 I mean, I had a friend of mine who was from Israel, and he was always laughing and dancing and playing bongo drums and shit like this.
01:32:04.000 And I said, why?
01:32:05.000 I go, is this like where you're from in Israel?
01:32:08.000 Is it like this?
01:32:09.000 He goes, yes, everybody, party, party.
01:32:11.000 I go, why?
01:32:12.000 He goes, because tomorrow you could be dead.
01:32:14.000 There you go.
01:32:14.000 Tomorrow you could be dead.
01:32:15.000 Exactly.
01:32:16.000 Everybody, party, party.
01:32:17.000 What did I say?
01:32:17.000 The more you have, the more you complain.
01:32:19.000 These guys are like, hey, we could die at any moment.
01:32:21.000 We get bombed.
01:32:22.000 Let's live, baby!
01:32:23.000 It gives people a feeling of all the systems are firing.
01:32:28.000 I think one of the things about people with sedentary lifestyles and no goals and no activity in their life is your body just starts to fall apart.
01:32:36.000 It doesn't want to live like that.
01:32:38.000 It just doesn't want it.
01:32:39.000 And then it starts feeling bad all the time.
01:32:42.000 It just feels shitty.
01:32:43.000 Yes.
01:32:44.000 It's like a dog almost, not to compare us to dogs, but if you don't give the dog, you know, the dog wants to hear what to do a little bit, you know?
01:32:50.000 You've got to give it a little bit of order or else it's just like biting his own tail.
01:32:53.000 They need activity.
01:32:55.000 Yes.
01:32:55.000 They have a lot of energy.
01:32:56.000 Totally.
01:32:57.000 We do too.
01:32:58.000 Oh yeah.
01:32:59.000 Oh yeah, but we're trying to take energy away.
01:33:01.000 Like everything is built, like the internet, you can just sit there all day.
01:33:04.000 It's not good for people.
01:33:05.000 You don't need to go outside.
01:33:06.000 Yeah, that's not good for people.
01:33:07.000 It's not good for people also to be in these weird virtual environments all day long where you're talking to people without actually talking to people.
01:33:14.000 Completely.
01:33:15.000 I mean, this is why the moped is so...
01:33:17.000 I'm on that thing.
01:33:17.000 I get the wind in my hair.
01:33:18.000 I get off the moped.
01:33:19.000 I'm on stage like, whew, I'm alive, baby.
01:33:21.000 Yeah.
01:33:21.000 You know, I got that kiss of wind, and then I'm on stage talking to random strangers.
01:33:25.000 Then somebody hands you a wad of cash.
01:33:26.000 You jump back on the moped.
01:33:28.000 You go bang your girlfriend.
01:33:29.000 Woo!
01:33:30.000 Have a beer.
01:33:30.000 Woo!
01:33:31.000 Living, baby.
01:33:32.000 Living.
01:33:33.000 Queef.
01:33:34.000 Yeah.
01:33:35.000 Yeah, I love it.
01:33:36.000 Yeah, those are real experiences.
01:33:38.000 That's one of the reasons why people still love comedy.
01:33:41.000 Yes!
01:33:41.000 You can't kill it.
01:33:43.000 It's a live, real experience.
01:33:45.000 We're the entertainment...
01:33:46.000 We're cockroaches of the entertainment world, you know?
01:33:49.000 You can't bomb us.
01:33:50.000 We'll keep coming back, because you need the truth, folks.
01:33:52.000 You need action movies, and you need comedy.
01:33:54.000 Those are two stalwarts.
01:33:56.000 Yeah, John Wick is going strong.
01:33:58.000 Oh, my God.
01:33:58.000 Yeah, it's the most murderous movie of all time.
01:34:00.000 In the time where everybody wants to get rid of guns, this guy kills everybody.
01:34:04.000 Right, exactly.
01:34:05.000 It's the number one movie, and everybody loves him.
01:34:08.000 I know.
01:34:08.000 Everybody loves Keanu Reeves.
01:34:09.000 He seems like probably the nicest guy that's ever existed.
01:34:11.000 I know.
01:34:12.000 He seems like a cool dude, and he's got a motorcycle collection.
01:34:16.000 Yeah, he's a aficionado.
01:34:19.000 That's the only thing that bummed me out about John Wick 3 is there's no muscle cars.
01:34:23.000 How come you have no muscle cars?
01:34:24.000 Boy, I see.
01:34:25.000 That was part of the problem.
01:34:26.000 I see your fame and whatnot, and the cars are what really makes me...
01:34:31.000 I don't care.
01:34:32.000 I don't need money or fame.
01:34:33.000 I don't care about any of that.
01:34:34.000 I don't even want to be famous.
01:34:35.000 I'd rather have an anonymous life.
01:34:41.000 There's coffee and the booze and the non-alcoholic.
01:34:45.000 I don't want to be that.
01:34:46.000 I was talking to Ari.
01:34:47.000 He's like, I want to go to a music fest, lay in the grass, and not have somebody go, can I get a photo?
01:34:51.000 And I said, yes, I'm with you.
01:34:52.000 Right.
01:34:53.000 You're huge.
01:34:54.000 You're famous, man.
01:34:55.000 That scares me.
01:34:56.000 But when you pulled up...
01:34:58.000 I didn't want to tell you this.
01:34:59.000 I was jizzing a little.
01:35:00.000 I was walking to the comedy store to do some bullshit in the belly room, work on my Uber bit, and you pulled up and that fucking Chevy Corvette, the silver one, the Stingray, that thing...
01:35:13.000 Oh my god!
01:35:14.000 I jizzed and my twat leaked.
01:35:17.000 It was so hot!
01:35:18.000 And then you pulled in, you parked it, and I was like, now that's what I want!
01:35:21.000 I want to have a cool car!
01:35:23.000 That's why I bought the moped, too.
01:35:24.000 It kind of satiated that car thing.
01:35:26.000 But I want a 69 Porsche 911 Irish Green Tan Interior!
01:35:31.000 Ah!
01:35:33.000 69?
01:35:33.000 You want the long hood?
01:35:34.000 Yeah, I like the old stuff.
01:35:36.000 It looks better to me.
01:35:37.000 Me too.
01:35:38.000 Yeah.
01:35:38.000 Hashtag.
01:35:39.000 Yeah, they'll take those and they'll put really good motors in them now, too.
01:35:43.000 That's the Singer shit.
01:35:44.000 Yeah, the Singer shit, but there's also a bunch of companies that do it in a way where you can drive it everywhere.
01:35:49.000 The problem with the Singer is you're dealing with a half a million dollar car.
01:35:52.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:35:52.000 That's the coolest looking car to me.
01:35:54.000 I love that fucking car.
01:35:56.000 It's cute, but also got balls and also sexy.
01:35:59.000 It's got everything to me.
01:36:00.000 There's a bunch of guys who take those cars and they hot rod them out.
01:36:04.000 Yeah, I don't need all that.
01:36:05.000 Like a 993 engine and they put it in there so it has more power.
01:36:09.000 Yeah, I just want it to be a driver.
01:36:11.000 You know, I want to go back and forth daily with it.
01:36:14.000 Can they do that?
01:36:15.000 Oh, for sure, yeah.
01:36:16.000 It'll absolutely probably be more reliable than these old engines.
01:36:19.000 Right.
01:36:20.000 I would imagine.
01:36:21.000 Yeah, even if it was like a...
01:36:26.000 You're dealing with 150,000, 200,000 miles.
01:36:29.000 I mean, who knows how many miles it is.
01:36:30.000 Yeah, of course.
01:36:30.000 But I grew up, when I was a kid, I bought a 71 Cutlass Convertible Supreme, and it was the coolest car ever, but it would break down, you know, once a month.
01:36:39.000 And I'd be at a bar like, shit!
01:36:41.000 And it was so embarrassing, I'd have to, like, push it around the block so I could start it and try to, like, play with it.
01:36:46.000 Because you didn't want to start outside the bar, your friends would laugh at you.
01:36:49.000 Yeah.
01:36:49.000 So I would have to, like, tinker with it, and it was fucking brutal.
01:36:52.000 And I always thought, if I ever got rich, I'm going to buy a nice car and just put a good engine in it.
01:36:56.000 Because these things, they're so fickle.
01:36:59.000 Yeah.
01:37:00.000 But it's like, that's your dream car?
01:37:02.000 Is it a 69 Porsche?
01:37:03.000 Well, right now, because I'm not very financially stable, so that's probably my ceiling.
01:37:09.000 But I could probably go crazier.
01:37:09.000 That would be a good one to drive around in Manhattan, too.
01:37:11.000 Yeah.
01:37:11.000 It's small.
01:37:12.000 Oh.
01:37:13.000 Marketplaces.
01:37:14.000 Oh, God, my dream.
01:37:15.000 Do you know how to drive one of those fuckers?
01:37:17.000 Could you teach me stick?
01:37:18.000 No.
01:37:18.000 You don't know how to drive a stick?
01:37:19.000 I drove stick like...
01:37:21.000 You don't want to learn on a Porsche.
01:37:22.000 Well, obviously.
01:37:23.000 Maybe I'll get a rental.
01:37:24.000 You want to get a rental car.
01:37:25.000 Yeah, just tear that thing up.
01:37:26.000 You can still get rental cars with a stick shift.
01:37:28.000 It's not hard to learn.
01:37:29.000 You can learn in five minutes.
01:37:30.000 No.
01:37:31.000 Yes.
01:37:31.000 I did it once or twice.
01:37:33.000 I don't know.
01:37:34.000 No, listen.
01:37:35.000 I can teach you in ten.
01:37:36.000 Guaranteed.
01:37:37.000 Let's film that.
01:37:38.000 Yeah.
01:37:39.000 That could be a fun video.
01:37:40.000 You don't want to do one that's hard.
01:37:42.000 But, you know, a Porsche, especially an old one, it's also their hinge on the floor.
01:37:45.000 It's a different setup.
01:37:46.000 Yeah.
01:37:47.000 Like, the ones that most of them are coming, like the way Porsches are, it's like on a hinge.
01:37:51.000 It feels different.
01:37:52.000 All the things are connected at the bottom instead of connected and dropping down.
01:37:57.000 Like on a modern car, everything drops down and you push it.
01:38:00.000 You have to learn that that feels a little bit different.
01:38:03.000 And then, you know, those cars are tricky.
01:38:06.000 Are they?
01:38:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:38:07.000 You have to learn how to drive them.
01:38:09.000 There's something called lift throttle oversteer.
01:38:11.000 So if you're taking a turn with an old 911, and on the turn you let off the gas, your ass hand will kick out.
01:38:20.000 What?
01:38:20.000 Yeah, it's called lift throttle oversteer.
01:38:23.000 And it's because they're a rear-engine car.
01:38:26.000 They're not a mid-engine car.
01:38:27.000 They're a rear-engine car.
01:38:29.000 The engine is actually behind the tires.
01:38:31.000 So there's something that happens as you're going around a corner when you let off the gas.
01:38:35.000 It just wants to spin.
01:38:38.000 And they didn't have much grip either.
01:38:41.000 The problem with those ones versus the Hot Rod ones is they had little skinny-ass fucking tires.
01:38:46.000 Because that's all anybody had back then.
01:38:48.000 Those tires suck dick.
01:38:49.000 They're not good.
01:38:50.000 You want fat, grippy...
01:38:52.000 You want a Toyo or a Michelin or a fucking killer R-compound tire.
01:38:58.000 So you can drive around corners and get some real fucking traction.
01:39:03.000 You have to learn how to drive that thing.
01:39:05.000 It's not a regular car.
01:39:06.000 I thought they were the best drivers.
01:39:08.000 The new ones, sure, if you've got a new one.
01:39:13.000 Yeah, they drive amazing.
01:39:14.000 And those things are interesting.
01:39:16.000 What they are is really mechanical.
01:39:18.000 I have an old one out there.
01:39:20.000 What?
01:39:20.000 I didn't see it.
01:39:21.000 A 93 RS America.
01:39:23.000 Oh, nice.
01:39:24.000 It's really light.
01:39:25.000 It's got a roll cage in it.
01:39:26.000 No air conditioning, no radio, no nothing.
01:39:29.000 It's all just engine and fun.
01:39:31.000 Oh, boy.
01:39:32.000 But that car is tricky.
01:39:33.000 Yeah.
01:39:34.000 There's no traction control.
01:39:36.000 The first time I drove around the corner, I said, let me see what it's like when I let off the gas in mid-corner.
01:39:41.000 It's like, yo!
01:39:42.000 Oh, really?
01:39:43.000 Yeah.
01:39:43.000 So do you kind of hate driving it?
01:39:45.000 No, no, no.
01:39:45.000 I had it tightened up.
01:39:47.000 A company called Shark Works did a bunch of things to it and tightened up the suspension.
01:39:50.000 We changed the tire.
01:39:51.000 It's got a grippier, fatter tire.
01:39:54.000 The thing about those cars is so thrilling, especially a car that doesn't have automatic power steering and it has a manual transmission.
01:40:03.000 You feel every fucking bump of the road.
01:40:08.000 You're attached to that.
01:40:09.000 There's no numbness in the steering.
01:40:11.000 It's alive.
01:40:12.000 And it's the rear engine, so the front end is kind of light.
01:40:15.000 So you can move it around pretty good, even though it doesn't have power steering.
01:40:20.000 And then you hear the gears, and it's all air-cooled, so it's like...
01:40:26.000 Like you hear gears and shit.
01:40:28.000 It's a crazy sounding engine.
01:40:30.000 Anyone else hard?
01:40:31.000 They make me hard.
01:40:32.000 Yeah.
01:40:33.000 That's the most viscerally thrilling car to drive.
01:40:35.000 It's not nearly as fast as my Tesla.
01:40:37.000 The Tesla buries all of them.
01:40:39.000 I know, but the Tesla has no soul, it feels like to me.
01:40:42.000 It feels so electric.
01:40:44.000 And I got nothing against electric, but it doesn't feel like a machine.
01:40:46.000 It's like a vacuum cleaner or something.
01:40:49.000 Have you driven one?
01:40:50.000 Of course not.
01:40:51.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
01:40:52.000 I've never been in one.
01:40:53.000 We got one.
01:40:54.000 I'll let you drive mine.
01:40:55.000 What?
01:40:55.000 Come on!
01:40:57.000 When you drive it, it makes you feel like, oh, okay.
01:41:02.000 Other cars are just stupid.
01:41:04.000 Other cars are a stupid idea.
01:41:05.000 Really?
01:41:05.000 Oh, my God.
01:41:06.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:41:07.000 Because there's no gears, right?
01:41:09.000 It doesn't go for a second, third, fourth.
01:41:11.000 It doesn't do that.
01:41:12.000 It just goes...
01:41:15.000 It does that faster than anything you've ever been in your life.
01:41:17.000 It does it like rollercoaster fast.
01:41:19.000 This is how fast it is.
01:41:21.000 They just did a Nürburgring time.
01:41:23.000 The Nürburgring is this famous track in Germany.
01:41:27.000 This is a very, very famous track where times of cars speeding around the Nürburgring has always been like the benchmark.
01:41:34.000 Okay, like the mile, the four-minute mile.
01:41:36.000 It's a big deal.
01:41:36.000 I have a GT3 RS, which is really essentially a race car for the street.
01:41:41.000 And that supposedly goes around the Nürburgring, I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 7 minutes and 40-something seconds.
01:41:51.000 This new Tesla just did it 7 minutes and 20 seconds.
01:41:55.000 Oh, wow.
01:41:55.000 So that's 20 plus seconds faster than a Porsche race car.
01:42:00.000 That's insane, because it doesn't have to shift.
01:42:03.000 It doesn't have to shift, and it has this crazy power.
01:42:06.000 The power and the acceleration is not like anything I've ever experienced in my life.
01:42:10.000 Wow.
01:42:11.000 I've had all kinds of muscle cars.
01:42:13.000 I've had all kinds of different things.
01:42:15.000 I've had big cars and small cars.
01:42:17.000 That thing's a totally different animal.
01:42:19.000 Yeah.
01:42:20.000 It's a totally different animal.
01:42:21.000 This is all news to me.
01:42:22.000 I thought Tesla went bankrupt.
01:42:24.000 It's fucking nuts.
01:42:25.000 We're doing these shows tonight.
01:42:27.000 Yeah.
01:42:27.000 I'll bring it, and then afterwards we'll drive it.
01:42:30.000 Hey, don't bend over backwards for me.
01:42:32.000 It's going to freak you out.
01:42:32.000 No, you need experience.
01:42:33.000 All right.
01:42:34.000 I appreciate it.
01:42:34.000 I feel like a salesman.
01:42:35.000 Yeah.
01:42:36.000 Apparently it's capable of doing that 720. Uh-oh.
01:42:40.000 Here we go.
01:42:40.000 No, it did it.
01:42:40.000 No.
01:42:41.000 What do you mean?
01:42:42.000 It says it's possible.
01:42:43.000 It broke down.
01:42:44.000 No, it did a 724. I'm looking at it right now.
01:42:46.000 It broke down.
01:42:47.000 It broke down when?
01:42:48.000 During the race.
01:42:49.000 What?
01:42:50.000 It's not a race, Jim.
01:42:51.000 Or during the time trial.
01:42:53.000 Well, they definitely completed one.
01:42:55.000 Hold on a second.
01:42:56.000 Porsche passed them?
01:42:57.000 Are they racing?
01:42:58.000 Watch a video of a Porsche passing the broke down Tesla on the Nürburgring.
01:43:01.000 But is that today's Tesla?
01:43:05.000 21 hours ago.
01:43:06.000 This is worse for Elon than the weed smoking.
01:43:09.000 No, it makes sense.
01:43:10.000 Alright.
01:43:11.000 If you're going around a track on a car that's all batteries and it heats up, they had real concerns about that.
01:43:19.000 This is their tweet.
01:43:19.000 It says, it can't achieve it.
01:43:21.000 It didn't say they did achieve it.
01:43:22.000 Well, how do we know if it can if it didn't?
01:43:24.000 Data from our track tech indicates, but I thought they had a second one.
01:43:28.000 With some improvements, 705 may be possible, but they definitely did 723 or something like that, which is still insanely impressive.
01:43:36.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:43:36.000 So, pull up It's Nurburgring Laps 723. But no, there's more than one test.
01:43:44.000 This was the second.
01:43:45.000 They started doing it a couple of days ago.
01:43:48.000 What they're trying to do is beat Porsche's electric car.
01:43:50.000 Porsche has this badass new electric car that they just came out.
01:43:53.000 The Taycan wanted it.
01:43:55.000 One Tesla completed that lap at a very unofficial time of 723. Unofficial?
01:43:59.000 How does it say very unofficial?
01:44:00.000 That's what it says.
01:44:00.000 Very unofficial.
01:44:01.000 How does that mean?
01:44:02.000 I don't know.
01:44:02.000 So it probably left it to Tesla to measure it, maybe?
01:44:05.000 Right.
01:44:06.000 That's probably what it means.
01:44:07.000 Not a judge.
01:44:08.000 Do you know anything about Nurburgring?
01:44:10.000 Just from playing video games, it's one of the best.
01:44:13.000 In the video games, it's a dope track.
01:44:15.000 In the video game, do they have an official that gives you the ready, set, go?
01:44:22.000 Yeah, it'd be like Gran Turismo or something like that.
01:44:28.000 That makes sense.
01:44:28.000 You would have to have an official.
01:44:30.000 You couldn't trust...
01:44:32.000 Look, companies lie about how much their gas guzzlers their cars are.
01:44:38.000 Didn't that happen with Volkswagen?
01:44:40.000 They lied about their gas mileage.
01:44:42.000 They got in trouble for that.
01:44:43.000 Was it emissions or gas mileage?
01:44:44.000 I think it was emissions.
01:44:45.000 Yes, right?
01:44:46.000 So companies will definitely lie about their acceleration.
01:44:49.000 Informally timed.
01:44:50.000 Informally timed on the circuit at 7.23.
01:44:54.000 Stopwatch was timed but made by a correspondent of the German publication Automotor and Sport.
01:44:58.000 Oh, okay.
01:44:59.000 So they at least had a journalist that was doing it.
01:45:02.000 The Tesla did have the advantage of using race compound tires.
01:45:06.000 That doesn't account for the almost 22nd advantage over the Porsche Taycan.
01:45:10.000 Mm-hmm.
01:45:10.000 Publicized lap time, 742. Yeah.
01:45:13.000 They're a burger.
01:45:14.000 I've gotten around the Nuva ring.
01:45:15.000 Either way, even the Porsche one, that 742, that is fucking insanely fast for a four-door car.
01:45:20.000 Yeah, that's crazy.
01:45:20.000 It's insanely fast.
01:45:21.000 So they're all insanely fast.
01:45:23.000 And if you could find the difference between the Tesla and the Porsche in daily driving, I think you're an asshole, because you're probably driving way too fucking fast.
01:45:30.000 You know?
01:45:31.000 Like, if you could tell the difference between 723, which is insane, and 747...
01:45:36.000 Right.
01:45:36.000 That sucks that it broke down, though.
01:45:38.000 Well...
01:45:39.000 But I think those things overheat.
01:45:40.000 Uh-oh.
01:45:41.000 But I think you're not supposed to drive them like that.
01:45:43.000 I think you're supposed to drive them like you would drive a regular car.
01:45:46.000 Still pretty cool that it did it.
01:45:48.000 Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
01:45:50.000 And this is like...
01:45:52.000 The reality of electric cars is that we're basically in a fetal stage.
01:45:58.000 We're in a grammar school stage.
01:46:01.000 There's going to be a college athlete and an Olympic stage.
01:46:05.000 We've got a ways to go.
01:46:06.000 They're really just getting going with this shit.
01:46:08.000 And if they made some breakthroughs with batteries, like the amount of juice you can get out of a battery, if they did that and had them thousands of miles of range instead of...
01:46:20.000 The really good one today, I think, is like 315, I think, is the most you can get.
01:46:26.000 315 miles.
01:46:27.000 Oh, okay.
01:46:28.000 But that's if you don't drive like a dick.
01:46:30.000 Right, right.
01:46:30.000 Well, let me...
01:46:31.000 Oops, sorry, GMO. I just recently heard, through something I was looking up, someone else mentioned on the podcast the other day, something about solid-state batteries being worked on right now.
01:46:39.000 Have you ever heard anything about that?
01:46:40.000 No.
01:46:41.000 Because it sounds like it would be useful for this.
01:46:42.000 I don't even understand.
01:46:43.000 What does that mean?
01:46:44.000 I don't know.
01:46:45.000 It's like how solid-state hard drives are completely different from...
01:46:48.000 Oh, okay.
01:46:49.000 Okay.
01:46:50.000 Moving hard drive.
01:46:51.000 It's just maybe the same kind of thing.
01:46:52.000 That's where I really didn't understand.
01:46:53.000 I was looking it up, and I felt like I fell in the simulation because the guy's name is Good Enough.
01:46:58.000 He's a scientist.
01:46:59.000 His last name is literally Good Enough.
01:47:01.000 He's 97 years old, and he's done a bunch of...
01:47:04.000 I mean, think about how much you need batteries, and how little do you know about batteries?
01:47:09.000 I don't know jack shit about batteries.
01:47:11.000 Come on.
01:47:11.000 Who does?
01:47:13.000 I had a new iPhone, got a good battery.
01:47:16.000 Right.
01:47:17.000 It's going to give me more time before I have to plug in.
01:47:20.000 Let me throw this one at you, Sloppy Joe.
01:47:22.000 They say you should never buy your dream car because then you've got nowhere to go from there.
01:47:28.000 That's nonsense.
01:47:29.000 You think so?
01:47:29.000 Those people are assholes.
01:47:30.000 I mean, there could be something to it.
01:47:32.000 That's like a Dalai Lama bullshit.
01:47:34.000 Nonsense.
01:47:34.000 All right.
01:47:35.000 Nonsense.
01:47:35.000 You want to have something to strive for.
01:47:37.000 You've got nothing to strive.
01:47:38.000 No, you just enjoy it.
01:47:39.000 You don't have to do that.
01:47:40.000 I strive to write better jokes.
01:47:42.000 I strive to do better sets.
01:47:44.000 But that's not, that's never ending.
01:47:45.000 That's the beauty of it.
01:47:46.000 It's never going to end.
01:47:48.000 Yeah, the car thing is just, cars are just cool.
01:47:50.000 They don't stop being cool.
01:47:51.000 Dude, I parked that Corvette and I get out and look at it and go, fuck, look at this thing.
01:47:55.000 Yeah.
01:47:55.000 That's what I do.
01:47:56.000 Dude, when you pulled up, the light was, the Sunset Boulevard lights were glimmering off it.
01:48:01.000 It was pretty juicy.
01:48:03.000 The 1965 Corvette, like that shape.
01:48:06.000 Yeah!
01:48:07.000 They just nailed it.
01:48:08.000 But that's, again, that's no committee.
01:48:09.000 That's just some guy designing.
01:48:11.000 I feel like everything now is so cornered and curved and boring.
01:48:15.000 Well, they have to be aerodynamic now.
01:48:17.000 And also, we rely on them to get these good lap times.
01:48:20.000 Wow.
01:48:20.000 Like, I don't even think they released the Corvette's lap time on the Nurburgring.
01:48:24.000 I don't think they released an official lap time for the Z... Z51 or the Z06. Or even the ZR1. I don't think the big league Corvette...
01:48:36.000 I don't think they ever released a lap time.
01:48:38.000 That's a big track.
01:48:39.000 Like, if you want to compete with Porsche or...
01:48:43.000 You know, there's other major sports car brands.
01:48:46.000 A company has to release a lap time at the Nurburgring.
01:48:48.000 Or at least some.
01:48:49.000 Laguna Seca.
01:48:50.000 You have to have, you know, there's the freeway.
01:48:53.000 There's one in Atlanta that's really good, too.
01:48:55.000 Uh-huh.
01:48:55.000 Road America.
01:48:56.000 Video of them doing it, but they didn't release the time, I guess.
01:48:58.000 Yeah.
01:48:59.000 Well, then it must not have been good.
01:49:01.000 I mean, it's real simple.
01:49:04.000 The speed is cool, but this car looks silly to me.
01:49:07.000 Does it?
01:49:07.000 Yeah, this is like a...
01:49:08.000 I don't know.
01:49:09.000 It's silly.
01:49:10.000 It looks like a joke to me.
01:49:11.000 Really?
01:49:12.000 Yeah, I mean, to me, this is too much.
01:49:14.000 This is retarded.
01:49:16.000 What does it look like?
01:49:17.000 Have you seen it?
01:49:18.000 Pull up a black one.
01:49:20.000 There's no style.
01:49:20.000 You don't think that looks good?
01:49:21.000 I mean, it's style.
01:49:22.000 This is like gaudy and over the top.
01:49:24.000 I don't know.
01:49:24.000 To me, this is not sexy.
01:49:26.000 I like subtle.
01:49:27.000 Interesting.
01:49:28.000 Okay, so you like old, classic muscle cars.
01:49:31.000 Yes, there's some art to it.
01:49:32.000 John Wick.
01:49:34.000 When John Wick was driving that 1970 Chevelle, you're like, fuck.
01:49:38.000 Love that, love that, love that.
01:49:40.000 That 70 Chevelle, white with the black stripes.
01:49:43.000 Goddamn, that's a car.
01:49:44.000 That's a car.
01:49:45.000 That's a fun time.
01:49:46.000 When I bought that car as a teen, a 71 Cutlass, it looked so good, but then the reality hits you, like, this thing's fucked up, the alternator sucks, and then the starter breaks, and then the rust and all that, like...
01:50:00.000 I didn't think about all that as a kid.
01:50:01.000 There he is, right there.
01:50:02.000 Oh, man.
01:50:04.000 Look at that fucking car.
01:50:06.000 See, if you have the money, you can just keep that car up.
01:50:09.000 Yeah, well, that's the classic one, too.
01:50:11.000 The black with white stripes.
01:50:13.000 When I was a kid, one of the buddies in my neighborhood, his friend had a black with white stripes Chevelle, and he gave me a ride somewhere.
01:50:22.000 I remember thinking about being in this guy's car, like, how could anybody...
01:50:25.000 Own this.
01:50:26.000 Yeah.
01:50:27.000 How do you sleep?
01:50:28.000 Exactly.
01:50:28.000 Knowing that you have a 1970 Chevelle in your garage.
01:50:32.000 Oh, yeah.
01:50:32.000 How do you sleep?
01:50:32.000 I would just get up in the middle of the night and touch it.
01:50:34.000 I know.
01:50:35.000 Just get up in the middle of the night.
01:50:36.000 That car right there with the fucking, the black with the white stripes that he, when he slammed into that motorcycle rider, he was hauling ass all around the town.
01:50:44.000 That's an incredible car.
01:50:45.000 I remember having a car when you were a kid.
01:50:46.000 Look at that, Citibank.
01:50:47.000 That ruins that whole fucking shot right there.
01:50:49.000 I didn't even notice it.
01:50:50.000 Yeah, I'm an animal.
01:50:51.000 But the thing about when you have a car as a kid, it was such a big deal that you cleaned it.
01:50:57.000 Remember, you liked cleaning it.
01:50:58.000 It was like fun.
01:50:59.000 You got in there and you changed the oil and you fucked with the tires and you rotated them.
01:51:04.000 You loved it.
01:51:05.000 It was like a thing.
01:51:05.000 You loved it.
01:51:06.000 You know what fucked me up, though?
01:51:08.000 I bought an Audi Fox.
01:51:10.000 I had a neighbor that had a 1972 or something like that.
01:51:17.000 Audi Fox.
01:51:18.000 It was pretty cheap.
01:51:19.000 I don't know Audi Fox.
01:51:20.000 It was a weird little tiny car that was manual transmission.
01:51:23.000 Yeah, that was exactly what it looked like.
01:51:25.000 Oh, look how cute!
01:51:25.000 I had a tan one.
01:51:26.000 I had one that was basically...
01:51:29.000 Look at that thing.
01:51:29.000 Looks like Brad Williams.
01:51:30.000 Right to the left of that picture, right below that one, yeah, that color.
01:51:34.000 That was basically the color that I had.
01:51:35.000 The brown?
01:51:36.000 Pretty much.
01:51:36.000 It was like a tan.
01:51:37.000 It wasn't that gross looking.
01:51:39.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:51:39.000 It's like a tan Audi Fox.
01:51:41.000 Four-door?
01:51:42.000 I think it was a two-door.
01:51:45.000 Did they make a two-door?
01:51:46.000 Yeah, it was a two-door.
01:51:46.000 That's it.
01:51:47.000 That's it right there.
01:51:48.000 That's kind of cool.
01:51:48.000 That's kind of got a style to it.
01:51:49.000 It's got subtle lines on it.
01:51:51.000 But what I learned is that little cars handle so much better.
01:51:56.000 I drove that little car around.
01:51:58.000 I was like, oh, these other cars that I'm driving, these muscle cars, are pigs.
01:52:02.000 Right, right.
01:52:03.000 You could really jerk that thing around some turns.
01:52:06.000 Well, it was a front-wheel drive car, too, if I remember correctly.
01:52:09.000 I'm pretty sure it was front-engine.
01:52:12.000 Front-engine, front-wheel drive, and it pulled around.
01:52:16.000 It's like pulling the car instead of pushing the car.
01:52:19.000 Right, right.
01:52:20.000 And I was like, oh, this is a smarter way to do it.
01:52:22.000 You know, it's a version of the car similar to that that I love.
01:52:25.000 It'd be my number two is the BMW 2002. Oh, yes!
01:52:29.000 Like a 71ii.
01:52:31.000 Oh, that car is sexy.
01:52:34.000 That's a sexy car.
01:52:35.000 Well, you know...
01:52:36.000 There it is.
01:52:36.000 TII. Have you seen that Bronco that I have?
01:52:39.000 That Icon Bronco?
01:52:41.000 That is so slick.
01:52:42.000 The Bronco.
01:52:44.000 Like the OJ? No, no, no.
01:52:45.000 It's an old Bronco.
01:52:47.000 The point is, put that picture back up.
01:52:50.000 This company Icon is going to take one of those and they're going to put a 2018 or 2019 chassis and engine from the 2 Series BMW. That's heaven.
01:53:03.000 So that That little tiny little car will have probably a 350 horsepower engine and a modern suspension and modern brakes and modern transmission.
01:53:14.000 He's in the process of building the first version of that right now.
01:53:18.000 Wow.
01:53:19.000 He's a wizard.
01:53:20.000 He does really cool shit with cars.
01:53:22.000 Yeah.
01:53:22.000 So they're going to take it.
01:53:24.000 Look at that.
01:53:25.000 Good looking.
01:53:26.000 There's a guy from Bavarian Workshop, Mark from Bavarian Workshop, put together a car that's similar to that.
01:53:35.000 He put an M3 engine in an older 2002, and I actually saw it the other day.
01:53:41.000 It was parked in front of his shop.
01:53:43.000 Yeah, that's it.
01:53:44.000 It was on Jay Leno's garage.
01:53:45.000 That's exactly it.
01:53:46.000 That car is radical.
01:53:47.000 That is a lunch car.
01:53:49.000 Back up a little bit?
01:53:50.000 Back up a little bit?
01:53:52.000 Yeah, that's it.
01:53:53.000 That's it.
01:53:53.000 There's Mark right there.
01:53:55.000 That's Mark Norris.
01:53:56.000 Ah, similar name.
01:53:58.000 Yeah.
01:53:58.000 He made this dope car.
01:54:00.000 Were you nervous about beating Big J? No.
01:54:02.000 Leno?
01:54:03.000 I've met him before.
01:54:04.000 He's really nice.
01:54:05.000 He's always been nice.
01:54:06.000 I know, but he's like a comedy, Massachusetts comedy god.
01:54:09.000 Yeah.
01:54:09.000 You know, The Tonight Show, and then now this car god.
01:54:12.000 So he's like two loves.
01:54:14.000 He does have that.
01:54:15.000 But man, he is so much more comfortable and happy talking about cars.
01:54:21.000 Yeah.
01:54:21.000 When he was on The Tonight Show, he's basically like, you know, hey, here's this guy.
01:54:25.000 You ever hear the Hicks bit?
01:54:26.000 Yeah, of course, of course.
01:54:28.000 With Joey Lawrence.
01:54:29.000 Hey, you got a girlfriend?
01:54:31.000 Well, sort of.
01:54:32.000 She doesn't know.
01:54:34.000 He pulls out a gun and blows his brains out.
01:54:37.000 His brains form an NBC peacock.
01:54:39.000 Yeah.
01:54:39.000 Because he's a company man to the bitter end.
01:54:41.000 And he's got an ooze in his mouth and he keeps changing clips.
01:54:45.000 Yeah.
01:54:47.000 The older guys like Leno and Seinfeld, they're so much more zen now.
01:54:52.000 They don't have to Instagram and all that shit.
01:54:54.000 They don't care.
01:54:55.000 They don't podcast.
01:54:56.000 They don't do any of this shit.
01:54:57.000 They don't do stories and tweets.
01:54:59.000 And they seem like...
01:55:00.000 I've hung out with Seinfeld.
01:55:01.000 I don't want to say we're buddies, but I've hung out with them a few times because of comedy.
01:55:05.000 And...
01:55:06.000 He's like wise and he does TM, you know, and he doesn't drink and he's like centered and he's got a family and he loves comedy and he's got his money and it's just he's a good guy to look up to as a comedian and like a business person.
01:55:23.000 Where you want to be and as a man, where you want to be in life and how you want to be and what you want to be like.
01:55:29.000 Have you heard about how I met him?
01:55:31.000 No.
01:55:31.000 Oh, dude.
01:55:32.000 I mean, he was my guy.
01:55:33.000 I was doing him when I started, and it was embarrassing.
01:55:37.000 Did you do a guy in the beginning?
01:55:38.000 Yeah, I did Jenny.
01:55:38.000 Okay.
01:55:39.000 I caught myself on stage once going, oh.
01:55:42.000 Yes, dude.
01:55:43.000 Sounds exactly like him.
01:55:44.000 I did an open mic in New York.
01:55:45.000 In New York, they were ruthless.
01:55:47.000 I was walking to the mic, and some kid in the back went, And it fucking crushed me!
01:55:54.000 Because he was mocking me, leveled me, because he was right!
01:55:57.000 And ever since that day, I chewed him out on the mic, but I also changed my ways, because it hit me right to the core.
01:56:03.000 And so, you know, whatever.
01:56:05.000 I'm doing four sets in a night, and I run over to Gotham, and they go, hey, slow down, buddy.
01:56:11.000 And you know when you've got four sets, you've got to make those times, or else it's like dominoes, you lose them all.
01:56:15.000 And they go, hey, slow down, Seinfeld's on.
01:56:17.000 I go, ah, damn, I mean...
01:56:18.000 That's how jaded we are as comics.
01:56:20.000 The biggest comic on the planet is on, and I'm like, ah, fuck.
01:56:23.000 I could sit down and watch him, but I'm like, I gotta make my shows!
01:56:26.000 So they go, don't worry, I think he's going short.
01:56:28.000 So he gets off, and they go, you gotta follow him.
01:56:31.000 And I go, fuck, that's bathroom break for most people, you know?
01:56:33.000 Seinfeld's done, we're not gonna watch the next douche.
01:56:36.000 So he's walking past me offstage, I'm walking on, and I go, you still got it.
01:56:40.000 And he goes, hey!
01:56:42.000 I like your stuff!
01:56:43.000 And he just said that in passing, and I was like, oh my god!
01:56:47.000 I figured he wouldn't even acknowledge me.
01:56:48.000 And I'm freaking out.
01:56:50.000 So now I go, and it's for Merrill Lynch or something.
01:56:52.000 It was like a corporate kind of thing.
01:56:53.000 So you had to be clean.
01:56:54.000 So I go up, and I'm beaming from this Seinfeld compliment that I just...
01:56:59.000 Fucking level the room.
01:57:00.000 It's coming out of me.
01:57:01.000 It's oozing out of my eyeballs.
01:57:02.000 And I killed!
01:57:04.000 And turns out he was watching!
01:57:06.000 So not only did I have to go after him, but I had to be clean, thank God.
01:57:09.000 I have like eight minutes on school shootings, pedophilia, and midgets.
01:57:13.000 So I had to be clean, and it went well.
01:57:16.000 And I got off, and so I was like, oh, that was fun.
01:57:19.000 Let's go to the next set.
01:57:20.000 And he goes, hey, he came out of the shadows.
01:57:21.000 He goes, let's go hang out.
01:57:22.000 So I go, oh my God!
01:57:24.000 And it was like a hot lady.
01:57:26.000 You know, when you have a good set, you got a little juice with her.
01:57:28.000 I would never have anything to do with this lady without comedy.
01:57:31.000 And we go in the green room.
01:57:32.000 We talk for an hour and a half.
01:57:34.000 I'm shitting myself for the first ten minutes.
01:57:37.000 He's my hero.
01:57:38.000 I grew up watching him with my family.
01:57:40.000 Must see TV! NBC! Thursday nights!
01:57:43.000 And the first ten minutes, I'm shitting.
01:57:45.000 Because you know this guy's face.
01:57:47.000 You know his voice and everything so well.
01:57:48.000 I know everything he's done.
01:57:49.000 I've read his biographies and shit.
01:57:51.000 And then after 10 minutes, he's just a comic.
01:57:53.000 He's just a Long Island car guy, baseball guy, comedy guy.
01:57:57.000 And it was just super cool.
01:57:58.000 And we talked.
01:57:59.000 And he goes, take my number.
01:58:01.000 And I go, I'll never call you.
01:58:03.000 He goes, use it.
01:58:04.000 Use it.
01:58:05.000 And that was it.
01:58:06.000 Wow.
01:58:07.000 Wow.
01:58:07.000 Texted a little.
01:58:07.000 And then as I was leaving, he did a bit that was new.
01:58:11.000 And I go, hey, I got a tag for you on that cemetery bit.
01:58:14.000 And he goes, whatever, take it easy.
01:58:16.000 Next day, what do you got on the cemetery bit?
01:58:18.000 Now we're texting.
01:58:19.000 And I had nothing.
01:58:20.000 So now I had to go write a bit.
01:58:21.000 You know, I had to write a bit in the time.
01:58:23.000 You didn't really have anything?
01:58:24.000 I had nothing.
01:58:24.000 I was fucking with him.
01:58:25.000 So now I'm writing a cemetery bit.
01:58:27.000 I'm like, ah, I'm googling cemeteries and shit.
01:58:30.000 I don't know anything about cemeteries.
01:58:31.000 So I came up with some headstone pun bullshit and I sent it to him and I could tell he was like, ah, that sucks.
01:58:36.000 Blow me.
01:58:37.000 And then I happened to say, I tried to save it.
01:58:39.000 I wanted to keep it going.
01:58:40.000 It's like talking to a supermodel.
01:58:41.000 Right, right.
01:58:42.000 And I was like, but you don't want to step on Carlin's cemetery bit.
01:58:45.000 And he goes, wait, what's that?
01:58:46.000 So I sent him that clip.
01:58:47.000 And now we're going back and forth about Carlin.
01:58:49.000 And I go, I think he's better than Pryor.
01:58:51.000 And he goes, what, are you crazy?
01:58:52.000 So now we're going on a Carlin Pryor fight.
01:58:54.000 And we just fucking had it.
01:58:56.000 Two hours of texting.
01:58:57.000 It was amazing.
01:58:58.000 Wow.
01:58:58.000 Why didn't you just call each other?
01:58:59.000 You could have got that conversation done in 20 minutes.
01:59:01.000 Yeah.
01:59:03.000 Waiting for a fucking text message while you're also watching TV. I know he's 65, too.
01:59:07.000 He took forever to get the words out.
01:59:09.000 Probably has to use his glasses.
01:59:10.000 Yeah, but I didn't want it to end.
01:59:12.000 I was happy it was long.
01:59:14.000 So, yeah, so now...
01:59:15.000 You're besties.
01:59:16.000 I wouldn't say that, but I mean...
01:59:17.000 Pretty close.
01:59:18.000 I wouldn't even say pretty close.
01:59:20.000 I'm closer to you than I am to him.
01:59:22.000 It's one of the weird ones.
01:59:24.000 Yeah, you don't want to bother.
01:59:25.000 Yep, I get it.
01:59:26.000 And then you don't want to come on too strong where he's like, this guy's up my ass because I'm famous.
01:59:30.000 How many people must be bothering that guy all day long?
01:59:33.000 Exactly.
01:59:33.000 So I'm trying to keep it...
01:59:34.000 Like, Colin Quinn and him are buddies.
01:59:35.000 Me and Colin, I love.
01:59:37.000 By the way, very underrated.
01:59:38.000 Oh, yeah.
01:59:39.000 Super underrated.
01:59:40.000 Never talked about Colin Quinn.
01:59:41.000 Genius comedy.
01:59:43.000 But they're tight.
01:59:44.000 But you did Tough Crowd.
01:59:45.000 We were on those days.
01:59:46.000 That's my whole comedy world is Tough Crowd.
01:59:49.000 That's like my influence.
01:59:50.000 Were you ever on it?
01:59:51.000 No, no, no.
01:59:52.000 That was 2004. I started in 2006. I came around...
01:59:56.000 I mean, I was on, like, maybe second season or something like that.
02:00:00.000 I forget.
02:00:00.000 And Colin, I hadn't seen him in forever.
02:00:02.000 And he was warming up the crowd.
02:00:04.000 So he's doing stand-up to warm up the crowd.
02:00:06.000 I mean, and fucking murdering.
02:00:08.000 And I was thinking, he's, like, right now doing something that's way better than the show itself.
02:00:14.000 Oh, interesting.
02:00:14.000 Like, this is so weird.
02:00:16.000 Right.
02:00:16.000 Because his stand-up, it was very tight.
02:00:18.000 And they were huge Colin Quinn fans and tough crowd fans, so they were laughing hard.
02:00:23.000 But what that show was was the first show where comics could ball bust.
02:00:28.000 Yes.
02:00:29.000 Like we do in the back bar at the store or like we do when we're in the green room.
02:00:34.000 We talk shit about each other.
02:00:36.000 We fuck around.
02:00:36.000 Yeah.
02:00:36.000 We have fun.
02:00:37.000 And we make fun of each other and we laugh.
02:00:39.000 And it's real.
02:00:40.000 It wasn't fake.
02:00:41.000 They try to reenact the ball busting and it's always embarrassing.
02:00:45.000 If someone says something and they're like, Mark, we didn't get coverage on that.
02:00:49.000 Can you repeat that?
02:00:50.000 Can you call his mom a skank again?
02:00:52.000 We didn't get it.
02:00:53.000 Get the fuck out of here.
02:00:54.000 I'm not faking that.
02:00:55.000 I remember DiPaolo had some lines.
02:00:57.000 He said Ralphie was sitting on a big red beanbag chair and DiPaolo said, you look like you jumped out of a plane and landed on a coke machine.
02:01:05.000 Oh my god.
02:01:07.000 He called Patrice Star Jones.
02:01:10.000 One time he bombed and he took a sip and Patrice goes, yeah, take another sip of timing.
02:01:15.000 I mean, there were just so many zings and these guys were the king of zing and they knew each other and it was genius.
02:01:22.000 No, and it was a show that I don't even think you could do today.
02:01:25.000 No, it was too real.
02:01:27.000 Yeah.
02:01:27.000 Too real.
02:01:28.000 Well, it was very much like stand-ups actually talking shit to each other.
02:01:32.000 Well, kind of the way they used to.
02:01:33.000 Yeah, the way they used to.
02:01:34.000 Now you gotta be like, well, this guy's, you know, bi, so go easy on him or whatever.
02:01:39.000 Is this New York?
02:01:39.000 Is it New York you're experiencing this?
02:01:42.000 Yeah, all New York.
02:01:43.000 I'm a New York guy.
02:01:44.000 Right.
02:01:44.000 But you don't get that out here.
02:01:46.000 Oh, that's right!
02:01:47.000 How do you live like that?
02:01:48.000 I did a show at the store and I was like, there's a lot of guys on the show.
02:01:51.000 We're going to get in trouble.
02:01:52.000 And Santino was like, shut up.
02:01:54.000 This is LA. I was like, Jesus.
02:01:56.000 LA is a full-on meritocracy.
02:01:58.000 There's a lot of funny women, but they have to actually be funny.
02:02:01.000 You don't get on a show just because you're a chick.
02:02:03.000 But it's weird that that's even controversial.
02:02:05.000 Of course there's funny women, there's funny minorities, blah, blah, blah.
02:02:08.000 It's funny everybody.
02:02:09.000 It's more offensive to put you on because you have a...
02:02:14.000 Gash.
02:02:14.000 Well, that's why, like I was saying about this girl that was telling me that she wants to have a certain look for her writer's room.
02:02:19.000 I'm like...
02:02:19.000 That's weird.
02:02:20.000 The look should be hilarious.
02:02:22.000 Yeah.
02:02:23.000 Find the funniest fucking people that are willing to work for you.
02:02:25.000 Right.
02:02:26.000 Don't worry about, I want black, gay women, I want this, I want that.
02:02:31.000 Listen, don't do it.
02:02:32.000 Yeah.
02:02:33.000 It's a trap, because you're not going to get the best show that way.
02:02:36.000 Of course.
02:02:36.000 The best show is find the best comics.
02:02:38.000 If they happen to be all women...
02:02:40.000 Yeah.
02:02:41.000 Fuck yeah.
02:02:41.000 Go nuts.
02:02:42.000 You got it.
02:02:43.000 I get diversity.
02:02:44.000 I don't know all the shit black people know or Asian people know, so get them in here, but just get the funny ones.
02:02:51.000 Yeah, the real problem is actual racism.
02:02:53.000 Yes.
02:02:53.000 The real problem is not...
02:02:55.000 And guilt.
02:02:55.000 Guilt is a problem.
02:02:56.000 That's definitely a problem with some folks.
02:02:58.000 But the actual racism is the real problem.
02:03:00.000 Not, like, ensuring that there's diversity to the point where you're seeking it out and eliminating the better candidates that just happen to be a white woman or a white man.
02:03:10.000 You know, you want this instead.
02:03:12.000 Very strange.
02:03:12.000 But it's not wise, okay?
02:03:14.000 Because your product is going to suffer.
02:03:16.000 Because if someone's got a skill, like, the real problem is someone...
02:03:21.000 I mean and it rarely happens I would imagine where someone decides that the far better person like It depends on the job for sure.
02:03:32.000 But if you're in a situation...
02:03:33.000 Sports, it's one of the reasons why sports is so awesome.
02:03:36.000 Yeah.
02:03:36.000 In the Jack Johnson days, they did try to do that.
02:03:40.000 They did try to keep Jack Johnson from fighting for the title because of racism.
02:03:45.000 Totally.
02:03:45.000 Because they didn't want a black man to run because they knew he was the best.
02:03:48.000 Of course.
02:03:48.000 So they were trying to keep him from being the best.
02:03:50.000 But in most...
02:03:52.000 I think?
02:04:09.000 The response to that is not forced diversity.
02:04:13.000 The response to that is like, racism is awful, and we should all agree.
02:04:16.000 But it's not that you should force diversity.
02:04:18.000 I agree.
02:04:19.000 I think it's strange.
02:04:20.000 You make a mistake.
02:04:21.000 Yeah.
02:04:21.000 You're making a mistake.
02:04:22.000 Yeah, and it's weird and kind of wrong and kind of gross.
02:04:25.000 Especially with comedy.
02:04:25.000 Yeah, of course.
02:04:26.000 But it's just...
02:04:27.000 And I get the whole, we gotta try to...
02:04:29.000 We went so far the wrong way, then now we're trying to...
02:04:31.000 We go too far the other way.
02:04:33.000 But it's weird that people can't see that.
02:04:35.000 And then they call you racist, and you're like...
02:04:38.000 It's always people without black friends who call you racist, ironically.
02:04:42.000 You don't even know any black people.
02:04:43.000 And why are you using that word so liberally?
02:04:47.000 Weird word to say that.
02:04:48.000 But you know, why are you using that word so...
02:04:50.000 That's an important word.
02:04:51.000 And you can't just...
02:04:52.000 In a world where we can't fat shame and slut shame, you can call racism and sexism so quick.
02:04:57.000 Racism is the worst thing in America.
02:04:59.000 Me, a bigot is the worst thing.
02:05:00.000 Maybe pedophilia.
02:05:01.000 But like...
02:05:02.000 It's weird that you use that so quick you don't even know the person.
02:05:05.000 That's crazy.
02:05:06.000 It's an easy weapon to use.
02:05:08.000 It's an easy weapon.
02:05:09.000 If you're playing Dungeons and Dragons and you've got a battle axe to throw, you let it fly.
02:05:12.000 I agree, but this ain't D&D, baby.
02:05:14.000 This is life, and people's careers will get ruined because you want to win an argument?
02:05:19.000 Yeah.
02:05:20.000 Ah, it makes me sick, and I hate...
02:05:22.000 Now I'm going off on a tear.
02:05:23.000 No, you're correct.
02:05:24.000 But I hate these new...
02:05:26.000 It's all whitey, by the way.
02:05:27.000 I hate these people who get real evolved all of a sudden, and then they've got to tell us about their evolvement.
02:05:33.000 It's like, yeah, we knew that shit already.
02:05:35.000 But we're not going on social media and having a big parade about how evolved you are.
02:05:41.000 I already knew these people were marginalized in that.
02:05:43.000 But just because you found out, now we've got to hear your side?
02:05:46.000 That's privilege.
02:05:47.000 That's the ultimate privilege.
02:05:48.000 Like these documentaries about, I have privilege...
02:05:51.000 You're getting paid a million bucks to do the documentary, you whore!
02:05:54.000 What are you, crazy?
02:05:55.000 It's insane!
02:05:56.000 Like, you think black people are enjoying this?
02:05:58.000 They're going, oh, this is fucking embarrassing, and how come I don't get a show?
02:06:03.000 You have the privilege, again, still!
02:06:05.000 It's so entitled and narcissistic, they can't even see outside their own cunt!
02:06:10.000 Gah!
02:06:10.000 Sorry.
02:06:11.000 Thank you, Mark Norman.
02:06:12.000 Thank you.
02:06:12.000 Ah, well, that'll get me canceled.
02:06:14.000 I'm gonna bang the gavel.
02:06:15.000 All right.
02:06:16.000 Mr. Speaker, you have four minutes to respond.
02:06:20.000 I want good.
02:06:21.000 I want it all worked out.
02:06:22.000 I want everybody to get a job and I'm all about the funny.
02:06:24.000 But you also don't want anybody to suffer sexism and don't want anybody to suffer racism.
02:06:29.000 But you want the best people to be chosen.
02:06:31.000 Yeah.
02:06:32.000 I do too.
02:06:32.000 And I think those things aren't mutually exclusive.
02:06:34.000 I think it's possible.
02:06:36.000 I pitched a show about having these stand-ups and do this, and people were like, we love it.
02:06:39.000 Here's a list of people we think you should put on.
02:06:42.000 And I read the list, and I was like, these are all hack retards.
02:06:45.000 This sucks.
02:06:46.000 These people are all unfunny, and I know all of them.
02:06:49.000 And you start going, why would they want to use these people?
02:06:51.000 They're talentless.
02:06:52.000 I've watched them.
02:06:53.000 I do shows with them.
02:06:54.000 The industry sucks!
02:06:56.000 The industry is a bunch of finance cunts.
02:06:58.000 They're all just wearing a suit.
02:07:00.000 You know, whatever.
02:07:01.000 But they're all wearing a suit, and then they're in the room, and they don't know anything about comedy.
02:07:04.000 I know about comedy.
02:07:05.000 I'm in the trenches.
02:07:06.000 I'm in the clubs.
02:07:08.000 But they don't know anything about comedy, but they're all in a suit in a warehouse or a nice building downtown, and they go, this is what we should do.
02:07:15.000 So they look good.
02:07:16.000 They look woke or progressive, but it's not funny.
02:07:19.000 Like, I hate that.
02:07:20.000 And then they all go, I love Pryor.
02:07:22.000 I love that guy.
02:07:23.000 I love Carlin.
02:07:24.000 No, you don't.
02:07:25.000 Name me one bit.
02:07:26.000 You don't know anything about comedy.
02:07:27.000 You're just at work.
02:07:29.000 You've got a coffee machine over here, and you've got a nice car, and you want to keep your gig, and you want to seem like you're on the up-and-up, and you want to seem like you're evolved and on the right side, but you don't actually care about funny.
02:07:42.000 Well, the problem is that they're involved at all.
02:07:44.000 I agree.
02:07:45.000 Why are those kind of people involved at all?
02:07:46.000 But we need them.
02:07:47.000 We need them for TV broadcasting.
02:07:48.000 You don't need TV. Well, not anymore.
02:07:50.000 Not anymore.
02:07:51.000 You don't need them anymore, really.
02:07:52.000 They're irrelevant, and they've made themselves more relevant with this kind of thinking.
02:07:56.000 Of course, but they pay well.
02:07:56.000 So it's great.
02:07:57.000 They do.
02:07:58.000 And then they don't suck your dick until you're making money.
02:08:01.000 Then they come and I go, hey, will you represent me?
02:08:04.000 They go, blow me, douche.
02:08:05.000 And then you start getting some, it's like Ari.
02:08:08.000 Ari did a TV show.
02:08:10.000 Everybody hated Ari.
02:08:11.000 Some people still do.
02:08:12.000 And mostly Nazis.
02:08:14.000 But he had a show and then he got popular online.
02:08:17.000 So they go, okay, we'll give it to you.
02:08:19.000 We'll give you the show now.
02:08:20.000 And then now it's a storytelling show that's still on with Roy Wood, by the way, who I loved.
02:08:25.000 But yeah.
02:08:26.000 I do too.
02:08:27.000 So it's just like, you don't know anything.
02:08:29.000 Stop telling me what's funny.
02:08:31.000 I'm funnier than you, and I know what's funny.
02:08:33.000 If they are going to work for a company that is going to pay money, that's going to get involved in the comedy business, there's going to be a bunch of people who are not comedy people that are involved in the creation of comedy.
02:08:45.000 And then their ego gets involved, and they want to change the suit and do this to the background, and we want to do this.
02:08:52.000 Then the show's ruined.
02:08:53.000 Yeah.
02:08:53.000 Yeah.
02:08:53.000 I mean, Pat from the Black Keys was talking about it last night, that you'd get these record douches from fresh out of college, and they would want to change something in the sound.
02:09:04.000 And you have this situation where you have this non-artistic person that's trying to influence your art, and they want to put their greasy little thumbprint in the corner of your art.
02:09:14.000 But it's normal.
02:09:15.000 When people give you money, they give you money for a product, and then they give you status.
02:09:20.000 They want to fill.
02:09:21.000 Like they have a job, too.
02:09:22.000 If you're an executive at one of these networks, you're Comedy Central, and there's a show with a bunch of stand-ups, are you going to just let them do whatever the fuck they want?
02:09:31.000 Are you going to give them some feedback?
02:09:33.000 Well, they're going to want to give you feedback.
02:09:34.000 They're the ones who are like, we get to decide whether this gets greenlit or not.
02:09:37.000 Sure, and that's fair because it's their platform.
02:09:40.000 But it sucks.
02:09:40.000 It is, but they shouldn't be there.
02:09:43.000 There's no reason for them to be involved in the world of comedy.
02:09:46.000 The whole idea of the network is always going to be hampered.
02:09:49.000 They're going to be handicapped, except financially.
02:09:52.000 They have studios and production value, and they have real directors, real producers that they work with, and they have a history, a long history of making real television shows.
02:10:01.000 Exactly, which is impressive, and I don't have that.
02:10:03.000 They don't have the sloppy shit.
02:10:05.000 Yeah, it's back to the grit you want.
02:10:07.000 People want the sloppy.
02:10:08.000 Stand-up.
02:10:08.000 Live stand-up is a sloppy shit.
02:10:09.000 And then podcast.
02:10:11.000 This is the sloppy shit.
02:10:12.000 Right.
02:10:12.000 This is what it is.
02:10:13.000 This is real human shit.
02:10:14.000 Yeah.
02:10:14.000 It's not like polished up and edited perfectly with a Tide commercial shoved in the middle of it.
02:10:20.000 Yeah, well, sorry.
02:10:23.000 Before I get inundated with tweets about how I'm in a suit, and I was just on Fallon last night, which is the top of the heap of, you know, clean, corporate, whatever.
02:10:31.000 To me, I just, people go, why do you do these late nights?
02:10:34.000 And I go, because I want to see if I can pull it off.
02:10:37.000 Let me see if they give all the restrictions, if I can still do it.
02:10:40.000 It's like, yeah, I'll go in the octagon, but let's see if you can bare knuckle.
02:10:43.000 And that's why I like to do these late nights, because I'm like, alright, they're going to tailor my act, they're going to tweak it and turn it and take this word out and fluff that word off, but if I can still kill with their bullshit, then I know I'm actually good at this.
02:10:57.000 Does it annoy you, though, that you're giving up your material for some fucking stupid show?
02:11:01.000 I mean, what are the numbers of people watching these shows now?
02:11:04.000 It's all for me.
02:11:05.000 I don't do it for the giving it up or who's watching or whatever.
02:11:08.000 I just go, I'm in 30 Rock, there's a lot of history here, Stallone's on, Cedric the Entertainer's on, Jimmy Fallon's a comic.
02:11:15.000 I do it for the tradition, and it's fun.
02:11:17.000 It's a tightrope.
02:11:18.000 You run that set for weeks and weeks and you hone it and you tweak it and you get an ending, an opening, and then you buy a suit and you go out there and you knock it out and you can flub on television, which is fucking terrifying!
02:11:30.000 And that's why you do it.
02:11:32.000 You do it for that little moment in time where you're on edge and it's great.
02:11:37.000 It's like a high.
02:11:38.000 And that's why I do it.
02:11:39.000 How many have you done?
02:11:40.000 That'll be 12 or 13. Wow.
02:11:43.000 Yeah, I like it.
02:11:43.000 You're like an old school comic, man.
02:11:45.000 Yeah.
02:11:46.000 You're like the Rich Jenny days.
02:11:48.000 Rich Jenny used to go on all the shows.
02:11:50.000 He would do a night show constantly.
02:11:52.000 Yeah, prior to.
02:11:53.000 Multiple times a year.
02:11:54.000 Prior to Sullivan, but then you go to the bar and he's talking about, you know, blowing a dude.
02:11:58.000 You know, and to me that's cool.
02:11:59.000 He can do Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu.
02:12:02.000 And I like that.
02:12:04.000 I don't want to wear a suit, but you know.
02:12:05.000 I went out last night and I slept in, but yeah, it's fun.
02:12:09.000 It's fun like, alright, let me go in your arena and kick some ass, and then I'll go back to the club.
02:12:14.000 You know?
02:12:15.000 No, that makes sense.
02:12:16.000 Have you ever thought about, I mean, you don't need it, but you could do it for you.
02:12:19.000 It'd be interesting.
02:12:20.000 My time constraints are not going to lie to me.
02:12:22.000 Oh, yeah.
02:12:24.000 I like tight, short jokes.
02:12:25.000 Yeah.
02:12:26.000 My bits are more stories that lead into other fucked up stories that I can't tell the third story until you've heard the first two stories, because you have to know how I fuck around about things.
02:12:37.000 Right.
02:12:38.000 I don't want you to think right away that I'm really serious about some of the things that I'm saying.
02:12:42.000 You've got to know that I'll say things I don't agree with just because I think it's funny.
02:12:46.000 And then I'll say, I don't even agree with that.
02:12:49.000 And also, I don't have enough time to just work on a five-minute set.
02:12:54.000 When I'm working, I'm trying to do my act.
02:12:58.000 And for me, a lot of bits are five minutes.
02:13:00.000 Sure.
02:13:01.000 Do one.
02:13:02.000 That'd be cool.
02:13:03.000 That'd be cool if you do one bit.
02:13:04.000 And it's not about giving it away.
02:13:06.000 You could write another five.
02:13:07.000 That's not what it is.
02:13:08.000 Just I don't appreciate the medium.
02:13:11.000 I get it.
02:13:12.000 I understand that it's a challenge.
02:13:13.000 I understand it is a challenge.
02:13:14.000 But I don't appreciate the medium.
02:13:16.000 It's not great for us.
02:13:17.000 No.
02:13:18.000 For me, stand-up is, you know, you're making people laugh in a nightclub setting.
02:13:22.000 Everything else is an advertisement for that.
02:13:24.000 Sure.
02:13:25.000 Other than podcasts, obviously, a totally different thing.
02:13:27.000 But when I'm doing anything else I'm doing, if I was doing a TV show in the past, it was basically an advertisement to come see me in the clubs.
02:13:35.000 Yes.
02:13:36.000 That's what I cared about.
02:13:36.000 I am the same way.
02:13:37.000 And the money.
02:13:38.000 Yeah, sure.
02:13:39.000 Take the money.
02:13:39.000 But the real thing was like, if I had to choose between one of the two, what are you talking about?
02:13:44.000 This is not a competition.
02:13:45.000 You can't beat stand-up.
02:13:47.000 Stand-up's the greatest thing the world's ever known.
02:13:49.000 If you're a comic, and you're murdering, no one is ever going to understand what that feels like.
02:13:53.000 It's the best.
02:13:53.000 When you are killing.
02:13:54.000 Nothing like it.
02:13:55.000 And the audience is dying laughing, and The high is so insane and their high is so insane.
02:14:02.000 It's so much fun to make people feel good.
02:14:05.000 It's amazing.
02:14:06.000 I feel bad for people who can't kill.
02:14:08.000 I do.
02:14:08.000 I know.
02:14:09.000 They're going through life and they're never experiencing what we experience all the time.
02:14:13.000 Right?
02:14:13.000 And then they turn it on the art form.
02:14:15.000 They go, this sucks, it's not fair, people are mean, and whatever.
02:14:19.000 Oh, that's nonsense.
02:14:20.000 Yeah, you gotta figure it out.
02:14:21.000 Everybody's gotta figure it out.
02:14:22.000 When people have excuses for why they're not doing better, or excuses for why people are doing well, you're looking at shit the wrong way.
02:14:28.000 You're wasting that bandwidth.
02:14:30.000 You're wasting that bandwidth.
02:14:31.000 Well, who gives a fuck why Justin Bieber's famous?
02:14:34.000 Stop.
02:14:34.000 Right, he figured it out.
02:14:35.000 You're wasting that bandwidth.
02:14:36.000 It's not his fault.
02:14:36.000 Don't worry about that.
02:14:37.000 Worry about yourself.
02:14:38.000 I completely agree.
02:14:39.000 There's only a certain amount of time for you to think about things in a day.
02:14:43.000 I know.
02:14:43.000 Yeah, we're all gonna die one day, folks.
02:14:45.000 But it's even the amount of time you have in a day to accomplish what you want to do.
02:14:48.000 I don't understand people that have extra time.
02:14:52.000 Yeah.
02:14:52.000 And a bunch of time that they can stick on shit that's nonsense and useless, and that's gonna take up most of your day?
02:14:58.000 Yeah.
02:14:58.000 Thinking about nonsense, useless opinions?
02:15:00.000 Like, why?
02:15:01.000 Why?
02:15:01.000 I know what you mean.
02:15:02.000 You know when you wake up kind of early, and you didn't get enough sleep, but you just say, fuck it, and you get up, and then you get a ton of shit done that day?
02:15:08.000 Sometimes, yeah.
02:15:09.000 There's nothing better.
02:15:11.000 Discipline.
02:15:11.000 Discipline.
02:15:12.000 Force yourself.
02:15:12.000 Force yourself.
02:15:13.000 And I used to go, let me lay here and try to sleep.
02:15:15.000 Now I lost three hours doing that.
02:15:17.000 I should have just gotten up, because I didn't get to sleep anyway.
02:15:18.000 Yeah.
02:15:19.000 So I'm with you on all that.
02:15:20.000 But again, with the late nights...
02:15:22.000 I'm a nobody.
02:15:23.000 You forget.
02:15:24.000 You're nice enough to have me here and the booze and the cars and everything, but I got no draw or whatever.
02:15:31.000 I'm still doing the B rooms.
02:15:33.000 I'm doing the funny bones.
02:15:34.000 I can't sell a ticket.
02:15:36.000 So like...
02:15:37.000 First of all, I have to make strangers laugh still.
02:15:39.000 I don't have fans, which is a real...
02:15:41.000 That's all I want is a fan.
02:15:42.000 You have some fans.
02:15:42.000 I got a fan and a half.
02:15:44.000 Jamie might like me.
02:15:45.000 But I can't fill a room.
02:15:47.000 I can't fill a weekend.
02:15:48.000 But these late nights, if you put 12 together, that's, what, 60 minutes?
02:15:53.000 That's a special.
02:15:54.000 So people kind of get a little YouTube clip of me.
02:15:57.000 I think the YouTube clips and the Instagram clips and everything like that is what's going to help you.
02:16:01.000 Yeah, they go a long way.
02:16:03.000 That's going to help you more than anything.
02:16:04.000 You're a rock-solid stand-up, man.
02:16:06.000 You're a really good comic.
02:16:07.000 It's all I can do.
02:16:08.000 It's all I care about.
02:16:08.000 I work really hard at it.
02:16:10.000 Yeah, I appreciate that.
02:16:11.000 That means a lot to me.
02:16:12.000 Thanks.
02:16:13.000 I love the art form.
02:16:14.000 It's amazing.
02:16:15.000 I do my best to try to encourage people to go out and see it.
02:16:20.000 Yeah.
02:16:21.000 But how come you get it?
02:16:22.000 It's funny that you're not industry.
02:16:24.000 I mean, I know you're a comic, so you're in the mix, but...
02:16:26.000 How come they can't?
02:16:27.000 I know so many funny people.
02:16:30.000 Because they're not comics, man.
02:16:30.000 They're not comics.
02:16:31.000 Comedy is one of those things that you can be a comedy fan, you understand and appreciate it, and never want to do stand-up yourself, but you've got to be in it.
02:16:38.000 You've got to get it.
02:16:39.000 You've got to get in there deep and look at it from the perspective as a fan.
02:16:42.000 But as a comic, man, I've had this conversation too many times, but there's not that many of us.
02:16:47.000 There's maybe a thousand of us in the entire country that are worth a fuck.
02:16:51.000 Yeah, maybe less.
02:16:52.000 Maybe less.
02:16:53.000 And out of the ones that are really doing well and headlining at clubs all over the country, what is there?
02:17:00.000 250?
02:17:00.000 300?
02:17:01.000 400?
02:17:02.000 Okay, how many of them will sell out theaters?
02:17:04.000 It's maybe 100?
02:17:05.000 Yeah.
02:17:05.000 Okay, how many are doing arenas?
02:17:06.000 Is it like 10?
02:17:07.000 Right.
02:17:08.000 There's not that many of us.
02:17:09.000 There's a tiny amount of us.
02:17:11.000 It's fucking small out of 320 million people.
02:17:13.000 I love that it's small.
02:17:14.000 It's very small.
02:17:15.000 We're in a secret union club thing.
02:17:18.000 It's fucking great.
02:17:19.000 And the real ones will do anything for you.
02:17:21.000 I know, I know.
02:17:22.000 But the backlash against comics now, these weird, these two sides you have to be on, I don't get it.
02:17:27.000 Can I like this guy and that guy, or this lady and this horrible, offensive dirtbag, and this wokey, progressive, clean, lefty?
02:17:36.000 I like them both!
02:17:37.000 Yeah.
02:17:37.000 Why can't I like...
02:17:38.000 Why do I have to pick these sides?
02:17:40.000 And people just...
02:17:40.000 I'm sure there's people listening now going, oh, he's one of them.
02:17:44.000 I'm done with him.
02:17:45.000 No, no!
02:17:45.000 Why?
02:17:46.000 I'm a good egg!
02:17:47.000 Don't forget that!
02:17:48.000 I'm a good guy!
02:17:49.000 I just like jokes!
02:17:50.000 I like shit humor!
02:17:51.000 I like slurs!
02:17:52.000 I think they're funny!
02:17:53.000 I'm sorry!
02:17:54.000 Blow me!
02:17:55.000 Suck my ass!
02:17:56.000 Shit in my face.
02:17:57.000 I don't care.
02:17:58.000 I like it.
02:17:59.000 My opener is a black guy, Chris Allen, and he's like, we just sit and shit on black and white all day.
02:18:05.000 I'll just call him a horrible N-word.
02:18:07.000 He'll call me a white devil in slavery.
02:18:10.000 We're buddies, and we love it.
02:18:12.000 He's got me in a headlock, and if anybody saw that, I would go straight to, you know, cancel jail.
02:18:17.000 Comedy jail.
02:18:17.000 Yeah, I would go straight to jail.
02:18:18.000 I'm like, you don't know our relationship.
02:18:20.000 We're friends.
02:18:20.000 We do the road together.
02:18:22.000 We're in the trenches.
02:18:24.000 We're like in World War II. We're out doing shitty rooms.
02:18:26.000 And we love each other, but if anybody saw that, I'd go to hell.
02:18:30.000 Because you're having fun.
02:18:32.000 Yeah.
02:18:32.000 Yeah.
02:18:33.000 Yeah.
02:18:33.000 We're having fun.
02:18:34.000 We love it.
02:18:34.000 Right.
02:18:34.000 And we find it funny.
02:18:35.000 Why can't I find that funny?
02:18:37.000 But you're saying things that they say are forbidden.
02:18:38.000 You're having fun, but in their eyes, you're not allowed to have that fun.
02:18:42.000 It must be forbidden.
02:18:43.000 Why?
02:18:44.000 See, we don't do that with anything else.
02:18:46.000 Like you joked around about me and my third daughter saying, oh, I thought she's dead.
02:18:50.000 It's funny.
02:18:51.000 But see, to me, if you were in a meeting with a guy who was a muffler salesman and you said that, He would fucking shit his pants.
02:19:00.000 Maybe, maybe.
02:19:01.000 Most of the time, people are going to get very angry at you.
02:19:03.000 But here's the thing.
02:19:04.000 They go, you're a bad person.
02:19:06.000 I go, no, I'm not.
02:19:06.000 I just made the joke.
02:19:07.000 How can you call me a bad...
02:19:09.000 I know me more than you know me.
02:19:11.000 I just made a joke.
02:19:11.000 I would have talked you out of saying the things about the coke and the guy cheating on his wife at the corporate gig.
02:19:16.000 I would have said, listen.
02:19:18.000 I want to talk to you out of those.
02:19:19.000 He gave me the dirt, by the way.
02:19:20.000 He did give me the dirt, but that guy is the same kind of guy.
02:19:23.000 Right, right.
02:19:24.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.
02:19:26.000 Yeah.
02:19:27.000 Well, maybe I'm just saying just because you find it offensive doesn't mean I'm a bad person or I did anything wrong.
02:19:33.000 And Jim Norton had that great point.
02:19:34.000 It's like we're obsessed with this movie about a clown who eats kids.
02:19:39.000 That's like the biggest movie in the country.
02:19:42.000 And then we love Ted Bundy.
02:19:43.000 We love all that.
02:19:44.000 True crime is the biggest thing.
02:19:46.000 This really happened.
02:19:47.000 And yet...
02:19:48.000 Jokes!
02:19:49.000 They really sting people for some reason.
02:19:51.000 Well, one of the things is that we'll argue with them.
02:19:54.000 It's very difficult to get it to argue back with you.
02:19:57.000 Ah, that's why Joey Diaz is fine.
02:20:01.000 You can't shut down Joey Diaz.
02:20:03.000 No, you can't.
02:20:03.000 He's too strong.
02:20:04.000 Interesting.
02:20:05.000 He's Chernobyl.
02:20:06.000 They don't know what the fuck to do.
02:20:07.000 They just get out of there.
02:20:08.000 But with someone like you, if you respond, they can go after you.
02:20:13.000 It doesn't have a fucking Instagram page where he's going to answer his comments.
02:20:17.000 Hey, fuck you.
02:20:17.000 You're a homo.
02:20:18.000 I wear a clown outfit because that's how I trick kids.
02:20:22.000 I'm not wearing makeup because I'm a girl.
02:20:24.000 He's not getting trapped and arguing.
02:20:27.000 I mean...
02:20:28.000 But they go, it's not real.
02:20:29.000 Well, neither is my act.
02:20:31.000 It's a performance.
02:20:32.000 But how many times have you seen someone, especially comics, get into it with fans online and going back and forth with people and people shitting on them and they're shitting on them?
02:20:40.000 It's an ugly look.
02:20:41.000 Yeah, it's not good.
02:20:42.000 It rarely works.
02:20:44.000 Right, it's bad, but it takes a while for comics to realize, I shouldn't engage with people.
02:20:48.000 Yeah.
02:20:48.000 But a lot of people never learn that, right?
02:20:50.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:20:51.000 So, they're there.
02:20:52.000 They're there as targets.
02:20:53.000 Now, if you're a person, and you're bored, and you're 15, and you're going to school somewhere, and your stepdad's a piece of shit, and your mom's dumb, and she's on pills, and you're stuck, but you got an internet account, and all of a sudden, Mark Norman, this fucking cunt thinks he's funny, fuck you, Mark Norman, And they say something shitty to you and you're like,
02:21:10.000 fuck you, your mom's getting fucked right now by some meth head.
02:21:13.000 You're like, goddammit, he's right.
02:21:14.000 My mom is getting fucked by a meth head.
02:21:16.000 You're getting involved with this because you're an accessible target.
02:21:20.000 If he tweets the guy who made the Godzilla movie, that guy's not going to tweet back at him.
02:21:25.000 But a comic might.
02:21:27.000 Yeah, yeah, we're accessible.
02:21:29.000 And it's also good when you write articles because it's a polarizing and polemic topic.
02:21:33.000 Exactly.
02:21:34.000 When you write articles, it's a good thing to write articles about someone's jokes being problematic and cancel culture.
02:21:40.000 Yeah.
02:21:41.000 But thank God there's guys like Bill Burr out there that are still swinging and Chappelle still swinging.
02:21:46.000 Big names that are still doing comedy exactly the way they always did it.
02:21:51.000 Exactly.
02:21:51.000 They're not changing it for anybody.
02:21:52.000 And people go, oh, these men or whatever want to be assholes on stage and they think they can say whatever they want in the name of comedy.
02:21:58.000 No, no, we don't think we're anything.
02:22:00.000 We're not politicians.
02:22:01.000 We're just doing what we think is funny.
02:22:02.000 That's all it is.
02:22:03.000 They don't get that.
02:22:04.000 This is all in the umbrella of comedy.
02:22:06.000 And they go, well, maybe it's just hate speech, but you call it comedy.
02:22:09.000 Well, maybe it is, but it's funny to me.
02:22:13.000 Then it's comedy.
02:22:14.000 Then it's comedy.
02:22:14.000 Exactly.
02:22:15.000 It's just comedy.
02:22:16.000 You can't just decide it's not good because it's hate speech.
02:22:18.000 Right.
02:22:18.000 Right, right.
02:22:19.000 Because your definition of hate speech is not...
02:22:22.000 If you call some guy some terrible name in your act because you're pretending to be your racist grandfather, that doesn't mean you're committing hate speech.
02:22:33.000 Exactly.
02:22:33.000 You don't know how I feel.
02:22:34.000 Well, sometimes you're doing bits, and this is how the best way to describe that bit is going to make people laugh.
02:22:40.000 That's why you do it that way.
02:22:42.000 Exactly.
02:22:42.000 You're not doing it that way to hurt people's feelings.
02:22:44.000 Exactly.
02:22:44.000 And just like spicy food, we're the chef.
02:22:46.000 We like it this way.
02:22:47.000 This is how we make it.
02:22:48.000 I'm sorry.
02:22:48.000 If you don't like it, just don't eat at the restaurant.
02:22:50.000 And I would argue, and this is a bold one, but I noticed that the shittier the guy on stage, like the jizzle neck, like the mean, dark, say the real dark shit, those are usually the best guys.
02:23:02.000 Or girls.
02:23:03.000 Have you noticed that?
02:23:03.000 In real life, they're good eggs and nice people and giving and heartwarming.
02:23:08.000 And then these super activist-y, we've got to make this right and this guy, blah, blah.
02:23:14.000 You meet them in real life, you go, oh, you're evil.
02:23:17.000 You're kind of evil in me.
02:23:18.000 Look at Cosby.
02:23:18.000 Yeah.
02:23:19.000 Look at that!
02:23:20.000 Clean as a whistle!
02:23:21.000 America's dad!
02:23:22.000 Jell-O! Postalizing!
02:23:24.000 Yes!
02:23:24.000 Always telling people what to do.
02:23:26.000 Yeah, I mean, every time.
02:23:27.000 It's a smelted-delted.
02:23:28.000 Every time somebody calls out a guy for being offensive, they start looking through his shit.
02:23:33.000 And then you go, oh, this guy hates Malaysians, or whatever the hell.
02:23:37.000 Well, you know that.
02:23:37.000 Happens every time!
02:23:38.000 That story about the guy who outed Shane.
02:23:42.000 Shane Gillis.
02:23:43.000 Is that his name?
02:23:44.000 Yeah, Gillis.
02:23:45.000 The guy who outed him deleted 6,000 tweets on Sunday night.
02:23:49.000 We're all flawed, folks!
02:23:51.000 The night before he released it.
02:23:53.000 Is that true?
02:23:54.000 Has that been proven?
02:23:54.000 Yes.
02:23:55.000 So he deleted thousands.
02:23:57.000 I know.
02:23:57.000 But then they go, well, that was 10 years ago.
02:23:59.000 Okay, well, maybe this is Shane's 10 years ago.
02:24:02.000 Let him evolve.
02:24:03.000 How about that?
02:24:04.000 You know, they go, well, that's old.
02:24:05.000 So what?
02:24:06.000 So what?
02:24:06.000 So Trudeau was like the best guy ever.
02:24:09.000 He was the height of the mountain.
02:24:11.000 Everybody loved Trudeau.
02:24:12.000 No feminists.
02:24:12.000 Yes.
02:24:13.000 And then we found out the blackface thing, did we lose all of that worth that he gained?
02:24:18.000 Or is it...
02:24:19.000 Right.
02:24:20.000 Do we let him slide, but not Shane?
02:24:22.000 I don't get it.
02:24:22.000 There's no consistency.
02:24:24.000 That's a very good point.
02:24:25.000 Thank you, I have a point.
02:24:26.000 That's a very good point.
02:24:27.000 I don't get it.
02:24:28.000 He's human.
02:24:29.000 It doesn't mean he should be canceled for some stupid shit that he did when he was young and dumb.
02:24:32.000 Exactly.
02:24:33.000 I thought it was hilarious, though, when he said he didn't know how many times he wore blackface.
02:24:36.000 Ah, that's funny.
02:24:37.000 They said, how many times you wore blackface?
02:24:38.000 Because a couple extra ones came out.
02:24:40.000 And then he's like, I don't remember how many times.
02:24:42.000 Like, what?
02:24:43.000 Was that your thing?
02:24:44.000 Yeah, that's a lot of polish.
02:24:45.000 It seemed like that was his thing.
02:24:46.000 I know, right?
02:24:47.000 His thing.
02:24:47.000 Also, I like how they called it black and brown face.
02:24:50.000 I was like, oh, we've got to have diversity, even with the true polish.
02:24:53.000 Arabian Nights.
02:24:53.000 Oh, okay.
02:24:54.000 Yeah, he wore a fucking turban on and everything, the whole deal.
02:24:59.000 That's less bad because there's no mammy minstrel.
02:25:03.000 I thought the history of the minstrel was the whole problem with it.
02:25:06.000 No, but now we've perverted that, and it's become any shade...
02:25:10.000 I mean, self-tanning, that's racist.
02:25:13.000 That's great!
02:25:13.000 If you're using a tanning salon...
02:25:15.000 That's a bit!
02:25:16.000 Write that down, J-Mo!
02:25:17.000 If you're fucking getting spray-painted, you know, you're getting spray-tanned, you're basically using blackface.
02:25:22.000 That's appropriation.
02:25:23.000 Well, me and Brendan Schaub had one of the most hilarious fucking conversations we ever had was about chocolate face.
02:25:29.000 What's that?
02:25:30.000 Well, bodybuilders.
02:25:32.000 Bodybuilders, when they would do competition, they'd do chocolate body, but then they'd also do chocolate face.
02:25:38.000 They'd make themselves brown with self-tanning.
02:25:40.000 I'm like, that guy is wearing blackface.
02:25:42.000 I'm like, how is this different than blackface?
02:25:44.000 And then we found out that some people are sensitive to it, so they only tan from the neck down.
02:25:49.000 So they have white heads and chocolate bodies.
02:25:52.000 Oh my god!
02:25:53.000 God, look at that!
02:25:54.000 How fucking strange.
02:25:56.000 Wow, that's kooky.
02:25:58.000 That's weird!
02:25:59.000 That looks fake!
02:26:00.000 It looks like a Photoshop.
02:26:01.000 Dude, it's so crazy, because they used to do their face, too, for continuity, but they can't do that anymore because of the outrage over blackface.
02:26:07.000 Oh!
02:26:09.000 Fascinating.
02:26:10.000 It's gotta be a bummer with the dong, you know?
02:26:12.000 Seeing a white-sized dong with that color is a letdown, folks.
02:26:18.000 It's so crazy.
02:26:19.000 It's really weird.
02:26:20.000 Look at that.
02:26:20.000 See, that guy's got blackface.
02:26:22.000 Whoa!
02:26:23.000 So we went into this crazy rant about it, and then it became probably one of the most viral videos that we ever did.
02:26:30.000 Yeah, look at that.
02:26:32.000 Yeah, that's it right there.
02:26:33.000 Why would you want to be—that's a little dark, right?
02:26:35.000 I mean, you can't even see the lines and the definition.
02:26:37.000 Well, I think that shows—on the big screen with the lights on you, I think that shows your muscles better.
02:26:41.000 Oh, okay.
02:26:42.000 Yeah, that's why they do it.
02:26:43.000 They really—they're painting themselves.
02:26:45.000 Uh-huh.
02:26:46.000 They paint themselves like a dye and it gets in the skin and it shows all the muscles out and shows highlights and contrasts and everything.
02:26:53.000 Wow.
02:26:53.000 Geez.
02:26:54.000 I had another point and now I lost it.
02:26:56.000 But it's funny how now everybody's getting on board with Bill Burr.
02:26:59.000 You know, like all these certain comics who used to hate him are like, that special was great, it was very thoughtful, I liked it.
02:27:04.000 And you're like, yeah, but remember when he was working it out, you hated him.
02:27:07.000 You know, let the guy, let people work it out.
02:27:09.000 You know, like, let's not be so quick to hate.
02:27:11.000 The people who are all about open-mindedness and inclusion are so quick to shut people out, ironically.
02:27:17.000 Well, most of them are bad.
02:27:19.000 They seem bad.
02:27:20.000 Yeah, there's not a lot of them that are really good, like really sharp and really funny.
02:27:25.000 Yeah, do you really care about that group?
02:27:27.000 Or do you just want us to think you care about that group?
02:27:28.000 What are you doing for that group?
02:27:30.000 Well, they're struggling, and they're probably thinking they're doing the right thing.
02:27:32.000 They might even trick themselves.
02:27:34.000 But if you really know what comedy is, you know that people fuck around on stage to try to find a way to say...
02:27:39.000 I've said things the wrong way all the time.
02:27:41.000 Oh, same.
02:27:41.000 And said things in a way that used to be funny, and now it's offensive.
02:27:45.000 Like, oh, you fucking idiot.
02:27:46.000 You ruined the funny part of it by trying to make it more edgy in this direction.
02:27:50.000 Now people just think you're mean, or now people just think you're ignorant.
02:27:53.000 Right.
02:27:53.000 You're trying things, and maybe you come back six months later, that bit might be murdering.
02:27:58.000 I might figure it out.
02:27:59.000 But if you just put it on YouTube like they did with Louis, and when all those comics were getting pissed at him for that Parkland shooting thing, just because you pushed some fat kid in front of the way, I'm like, look, if you were in that audience, that is a fucked up thing to say,
02:28:14.000 and it's funny, and it went national.
02:28:16.000 There's no way he would have ever released that bit in that form nationally.
02:28:20.000 No, it's not ready.
02:28:21.000 Right, he wasn't ready.
02:28:22.000 But he might have found a way to get you to laugh at it.
02:28:25.000 I guarantee you would have found it.
02:28:26.000 I guarantee you.
02:28:27.000 Yeah, he was good at it.
02:28:28.000 I mean, he had that bit about 9-11.
02:28:29.000 He's like, I jerked off.
02:28:30.000 You can tell how good of a person you are by when you jerk off, how soon.
02:28:33.000 And he's like, for me, it was between the two towers falling.
02:28:35.000 That's great!
02:28:37.000 Why is it that you're allowed to shit on my taste?
02:28:40.000 Because let's say you were like, my great-grandfather was in the Holocaust, and I went, ah, that's not real.
02:28:45.000 Obviously, that's a joke.
02:28:46.000 But people go, that is horrible that you would say it's not real.
02:28:49.000 I'm like, what are you, a fucking idiot?
02:28:50.000 I'm joking, you fucking queef!
02:28:52.000 You could say that to Ari.
02:28:53.000 Yes!
02:28:54.000 His father was a Holocaust survivor.
02:28:56.000 His father's a gross, dumb heeb!
02:29:00.000 Why are you laughing?
02:29:01.000 Wait, stop, Joe!
02:29:02.000 Why are you laughing?
02:29:03.000 Ari's my friend!
02:29:04.000 It's problematic.
02:29:05.000 I'm promoting hate speech.
02:29:06.000 It's not the first time.
02:29:07.000 I just find that stuff funny.
02:29:08.000 I love the Jews.
02:29:10.000 They're the best.
02:29:11.000 I find everything funny.
02:29:12.000 If it's funny.
02:29:13.000 If it's funny.
02:29:14.000 If it's funny.
02:29:14.000 If it's funny.
02:29:16.000 Yeah.
02:29:16.000 Ours is a Campbell-faced joke.
02:29:17.000 This is the last outpost.
02:29:19.000 The last outpost in the we're on speech is what you're allowed to joke about.
02:29:25.000 Yeah.
02:29:26.000 I don't know why.
02:29:27.000 I guess because there's a lot of truth in comedy.
02:29:29.000 There is a lot of truth in comedy.
02:29:30.000 It's like what we said earlier.
02:29:31.000 It's like sometimes it seems like that's what you're really saying because it seems like you're just saying something because everybody can just say things.
02:29:38.000 Yeah.
02:29:38.000 You can say things.
02:29:39.000 Everybody that doesn't do comedy can string together sentences the way we're doing right now.
02:29:44.000 Yeah.
02:29:44.000 So when you're on stage and you're saying things, it seems real simple.
02:29:47.000 It seems like you're just saying shit, and then I already say shit, so I don't agree with what he's saying.
02:29:52.000 Right.
02:29:52.000 Oh, I have a forum.
02:29:53.000 Look at this.
02:29:54.000 I've got a thing called Instagram.
02:29:55.000 Right.
02:29:55.000 Or a thing called Twitter.
02:29:57.000 And I'm going to say shit to him about the shit that he said.
02:30:00.000 And then you're going to go, hey, I don't like it when they say shit about the shit I say.
02:30:03.000 Yeah.
02:30:03.000 And then it piles on.
02:30:05.000 And then people go, hey, stand-up's under attack.
02:30:09.000 No.
02:30:10.000 Morons have more of an ability to reach you now.
02:30:14.000 People have always been offended by jokes.
02:30:16.000 They just haven't had a chance to express themselves.
02:30:18.000 But a lot of these people aren't morons.
02:30:19.000 They're well-educated people I knew starting out in stand-up.
02:30:22.000 I go, I was a smart lady or a smart guy.
02:30:24.000 This is a well-educated person.
02:30:26.000 It's more than...
02:30:29.000 Moron, there's like a Kool-Aid thing happening here.
02:30:32.000 There's a little of that, too.
02:30:33.000 There's a little thing going on with, like, these people are almost, I don't want to say brainwashy, but there's like a reality is kind of gone a little bit.
02:30:40.000 They're almost so wrapped up in their own horse shit that it's, I don't know, it's like taken over.
02:30:46.000 There's certainly a little bit of the compliance thing going on.
02:30:49.000 Yeah, and they build up from talking to each other.
02:30:51.000 It reinforces it, and they kind of get more and more juiced up, and they go, fuck, this is real.
02:30:56.000 Hey, and then you put the feel-goodness factor on top of it.
02:31:00.000 Like, I'm a good egg.
02:31:01.000 I'm a good person.
02:31:02.000 And in this society now of rewarding people who will shut you down for, like, people want to call out a racist guy not because they hate racism so much, but because they know how many points it'll score them, I feel like.
02:31:14.000 There's definitely that happening, too.
02:31:16.000 And I think that's...
02:31:17.000 And I feel like...
02:31:17.000 You know when you go to Italy...
02:31:18.000 But there's also people actually trying to call out racists, too.
02:31:21.000 Of course.
02:31:21.000 And please do.
02:31:22.000 I don't want racism.
02:31:23.000 Or sexism.
02:31:24.000 Or homophobia.
02:31:25.000 It's all bad, obviously.
02:31:26.000 There's all kinds of things happening all at once.
02:31:29.000 The thing is it's overwhelming.
02:31:30.000 It's overwhelming.
02:31:30.000 You're trying to manage it at scale.
02:31:32.000 That's what it is.
02:31:32.000 You're dealing with...
02:31:33.000 If you have a million Twitter followers, good luck reading those mentions.
02:31:37.000 You can't do that.
02:31:38.000 It's not possible.
02:31:39.000 There's too much coming at you.
02:31:41.000 The core is you've got to know what you are.
02:31:43.000 Yes.
02:31:44.000 You have to have a good group of humans around you, too.
02:31:46.000 Yeah.
02:31:46.000 That helps.
02:31:47.000 There's a lot of different factors that are going to be at play if you want to try to get through these fucking tuning nets.
02:31:53.000 Yeah.
02:31:53.000 Because if you get caught up in any bullshit, there's more bullshit for comics to think about now than ever before in terms of response from people.
02:32:01.000 But there's also more avenues for you to put your shit out.
02:32:05.000 Right.
02:32:05.000 I mean, you can just look at what Schultz has done.
02:32:09.000 Andrew Schultz just put his fucking special on YouTube, and he went from doing pretty good in clubs to selling out in theaters and doing multiple shows in a night.
02:32:18.000 Unbelievable.
02:32:18.000 Murdering it.
02:32:19.000 Murdering it.
02:32:19.000 Right?
02:32:20.000 So this is something that never existed before.
02:32:23.000 Yeah.
02:32:23.000 But he found it, he figured out how to use it properly, and now you're like, oh, I don't even need those cunts over at this network that were telling me to wear the purple suit because it's funnier, and I like when your pants are too short.
02:32:35.000 I just think it fits them.
02:32:36.000 Yeah.
02:32:36.000 I think the short pants is just, when I see them, I mean, it's Mark Norman, short pants.
02:32:41.000 You're right.
02:32:42.000 And we're so insecure and weak that we go, maybe they're right!
02:32:44.000 Right.
02:32:44.000 This person has a house, I don't.
02:32:46.000 Or even better, you're like, this fucking moron is telling me to wear short pants.
02:32:49.000 I can't believe I have to take advice from this dipshit.
02:32:51.000 No, that too.
02:32:52.000 And you do.
02:32:53.000 Yeah.
02:32:53.000 You do if you want to get that show passed.
02:32:54.000 Exactly.
02:32:55.000 Nonsense.
02:32:56.000 Chaos.
02:32:57.000 It's just too much.
02:32:58.000 It's too much.
02:32:59.000 But...
02:33:00.000 There's still enough of us.
02:33:01.000 There's still enough, like, real comics out there.
02:33:04.000 Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
02:33:05.000 There's a good number.
02:33:05.000 There's a good number of real comics.
02:33:07.000 The thing about this Shane guy and this shit that happened to him, it's like, what they're doing is this unplanned shooting the shit conversation, you know?
02:33:18.000 And they're from that Legion of Skanks sort of environment where everybody is constantly offensive and rewarded for it.
02:33:26.000 Yeah.
02:33:27.000 And it's funny and people enjoy that kind of just mean, you know, shit talking.
02:33:32.000 Yeah.
02:33:32.000 And especially in this day and age where things are very PC. It's fun to say it.
02:33:36.000 It gets a little rise out of you.
02:33:37.000 Yes.
02:33:37.000 So what people did was they took a clip of that and then it was like, well, we can't have this at the network.
02:33:44.000 Mm-hmm.
02:33:45.000 Like, as if that is everything that guy is.
02:33:48.000 I'm sure.
02:33:49.000 I know, I know.
02:33:49.000 Everybody says that guy's a good comic.
02:33:50.000 He's a good comic.
02:33:51.000 I haven't seen him.
02:33:52.000 Yeah.
02:33:53.000 But universally, everybody says he's a good comic.
02:33:56.000 He's open for me, and he's a tough follow.
02:33:58.000 My thought is, he's better off this way.
02:34:00.000 Probably.
02:34:01.000 For sure.
02:34:02.000 Yeah.
02:34:03.000 Look, apologize for that.
02:34:04.000 You know, he already did.
02:34:06.000 You know, he said he missed.
02:34:07.000 You know, he takes chances.
02:34:08.000 He misses.
02:34:09.000 Well, you don't know that a million people are going to listen to that.
02:34:12.000 It wasn't a great clip, but again, you don't know who he is, folks.
02:34:15.000 That's the problem.
02:34:15.000 You've got to stop calling people a racist.
02:34:17.000 That's the worst thing.
02:34:18.000 A bigot in America is the worst thing you can be.
02:34:20.000 I think a serial killer is a little worse.
02:34:22.000 I don't know anymore.
02:34:24.000 I don't know.
02:34:25.000 It's tough.
02:34:25.000 Serial rapist?
02:34:26.000 Here's a fun story.
02:34:27.000 I hooked up with a girl on Tinder years ago, and we were laying in bed after the sex, and she goes, I've got to tell you, your photo, you look like a serial killer.
02:34:34.000 And I was like, Jesus.
02:34:36.000 And I was like, in your photo, you look easy.
02:34:38.000 And she flipped out.
02:34:39.000 I'm like, well, yours was worse, but that's where we're at in our society.
02:34:43.000 You said I look like I murder multiple people.
02:34:45.000 I'm saying you look easy, but I guess the problem is she was easy.
02:34:49.000 I wasn't a serial killer.
02:34:52.000 And again, girls get all mad about that joke, but nothing ends easy.
02:34:56.000 I like sluts.
02:34:59.000 I think you just slut-shamed.
02:35:00.000 I was a slut myself.
02:35:02.000 I love a good, uh, what do you call it?
02:35:05.000 A good hoo-ah.
02:35:06.000 Go promiscuous it up, I say.
02:35:09.000 That's also another weird thing.
02:35:10.000 Like, whenever a guy's like, yeah, I fucked a bunch of chicks, women go, oh, geez.
02:35:12.000 Like, well, aren't you slut-shaming now?
02:35:14.000 Why isn't he allowed to go fuck a bunch of people?
02:35:16.000 I don't know.
02:35:17.000 But no one ever celebrates if a girl fucks a bunch of guys.
02:35:19.000 If a girl's like, how was your weekend?
02:35:21.000 I fucked ten different guys.
02:35:23.000 I didn't even know them.
02:35:23.000 Let them all come inside me.
02:35:26.000 Girls would be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
02:35:28.000 Oh, that's interesting.
02:35:30.000 If your buddy said he fucked ten gals, you'd be like, whoa, how did you do it?
02:35:33.000 You're saying even women go.
02:35:35.000 That's weird.
02:35:35.000 Exactly.
02:35:36.000 Women get mad at you.
02:35:37.000 Yeah, interesting.
02:35:38.000 Women get mad if they find out their friends had foursomes.
02:35:41.000 Yeah, that is weird.
02:35:42.000 Where's the love?
02:35:44.000 It's the same with fat people.
02:35:45.000 We all talk about big is beautiful, but then every gal goes to the gym.
02:35:49.000 And you're like, I thought it was beautiful.
02:35:51.000 Which one is it?
02:35:52.000 We just don't want you to feel bad, sweetie.
02:35:54.000 Well, then just say that, because I got some spectrum-y shit where if you tell me one thing, I'll believe it.
02:36:00.000 So you're just lying to me now.
02:36:02.000 Yes, they're just lying.
02:36:03.000 Okay.
02:36:04.000 That's all I need.
02:36:05.000 That's all I need.
02:36:05.000 She's amazing.
02:36:06.000 You don't need to lose anything, sweetie.
02:36:07.000 You're amazing.
02:36:08.000 Your body's amazing.
02:36:09.000 Yeah.
02:36:11.000 She's got a fucking jug of Mountain Dew sitting next to her in her car.
02:36:14.000 She's not happy.
02:36:16.000 This is nonsense.
02:36:16.000 This is not amazing.
02:36:18.000 This is a person that's eating themselves to death.
02:36:19.000 Yeah, it's very unhealthy.
02:36:21.000 And then, how long till we outlaw mirrors?
02:36:23.000 That's common.
02:36:24.000 Mirrors are terrible.
02:36:25.000 Yeah, because that's...
02:36:26.000 What you need to do is just have a Snapchat filter for everything.
02:36:29.000 Yeah, we don't like truth.
02:36:30.000 Truth is out.
02:36:31.000 Will you imagine if augmented reality changed your shape?
02:36:34.000 Imagine if I put one of those new Google glasses, augmented reality glasses on, and you looked like one of those bodybuilders with the white face and the chocolate body, but you were jacked and ripped.
02:36:44.000 If I took the glasses off, you look like a normal guy.
02:36:47.000 Right.
02:36:47.000 But on them, you know, you could...
02:36:48.000 Have this sensation that you're with someone who's incredibly attractive.
02:36:52.000 You can have sex with them and never see their real body.
02:36:55.000 That's coming.
02:36:56.000 Yeah, for sure.
02:36:57.000 That'll be here.
02:36:58.000 And then people will get surgery to just keep the glasses on.
02:37:00.000 They won't want to take them off because it's too harsh.
02:37:03.000 Staple them in.
02:37:03.000 But you've got to realize the fun part is working on your body.
02:37:07.000 It's like getting in there and fixing stuff and eating better and it's hard and you discipline yourself and you make it work and you turn down the ice cream and you get the kale.
02:37:15.000 You feel better.
02:37:16.000 That's what life's all about.
02:37:17.000 Yeah, but you're talking about discipline.
02:37:19.000 I guess.
02:37:19.000 Some people don't want to hear that shit.
02:37:21.000 They would rather just you be celebrated for who you are.
02:37:24.000 You're amazing.
02:37:25.000 Everything is amazing.
02:37:27.000 There was a guy who got in real trouble.
02:37:29.000 He was a writer for Vox.
02:37:31.000 He was kind of a whiny dude anyway, but that was his shtick.
02:37:34.000 But he fucked up, and he's a gay guy, and he said that we should stop looking at these gay thirst trap pages with all these guys that have these unattainable bodies and these unrealistic body types, and the gay folk went at him with the furor.
02:37:50.000 Good!
02:37:50.000 Good for them!
02:37:51.000 They were furious.
02:37:53.000 Gay it up, I say.
02:37:55.000 But the idea of realistic body types in the gay community, those guys are not trying to hear that.
02:38:03.000 No, no, no.
02:38:04.000 Those young, wild gay dudes just DTF, they don't want to hear that nonsense.
02:38:08.000 Yeah, let them live.
02:38:08.000 Shut your fucking mouth, stupid.
02:38:09.000 Exactly.
02:38:10.000 And that's the beauty.
02:38:11.000 As a straight white guy, I'm the devil, but you can't really say much.
02:38:15.000 I feel like if you're gay, you've got a little juice.
02:38:17.000 Because, hey, I'm gay.
02:38:18.000 I'm a gay man.
02:38:19.000 I'm a minority.
02:38:20.000 I'm a victimized.
02:38:21.000 So you can be like, fuck you, we're doing it this way.
02:38:22.000 Don't try to tell us how to live.
02:38:24.000 And it seems like empowering.
02:38:26.000 But if you do it, it seems kind of rally, clancy.
02:38:29.000 Yeah, little Charlottesville-y.
02:38:31.000 Yeah, and you're like, I just want to live too.
02:38:33.000 You know, I thought we were all the same.
02:38:35.000 I'm sorry.
02:38:35.000 Don't hurt me.
02:38:36.000 Yeah.
02:38:37.000 I don't know.
02:38:37.000 I love the gays.
02:38:39.000 It's a fun time for great comedy.
02:38:41.000 That's what I think.
02:38:42.000 It's a great time for great comedy.
02:38:44.000 Yeah.
02:38:44.000 Because people are so happy.
02:38:45.000 When you make a point, and it's kind of offensive, but it's also hilarious, and they have to agree with what you're saying, because there's actually logic to what you're saying.
02:38:53.000 Right.
02:38:53.000 That is, for whatever reason, that just...
02:38:57.000 It turns people's engines.
02:38:59.000 Yeah, and especially now, if you can weave through, because I still have to perform for people who don't know who I am, and you've got to weave through that offensive blog and get to the punch and still get a laugh?
02:39:09.000 It's like you went under the chicken wire on your elbows, and you got there, and the bombs are going off around you, but you still got to that punch.
02:39:15.000 That's a good feeling.
02:39:16.000 Yeah, so it's a great feeling.
02:39:17.000 It's like a puzzle.
02:39:18.000 You nailed it.
02:39:19.000 Yeah, it just makes it a little bit more difficult.
02:39:21.000 And when people try to do sloppy and clunky, and sometimes they're doing it because the bit's in progress, like Louie.
02:39:28.000 I think that's where Louie's thing was.
02:39:30.000 It was just in the progress, in the process, rather, of being created.
02:39:34.000 But when you let someone figure out how to navigate those...
02:39:44.000 Yeah.
02:39:46.000 Yeah.
02:40:01.000 You know, bits take a long time.
02:40:04.000 You know, Chris Rock's bit about...
02:40:06.000 N-words?
02:40:07.000 Yes.
02:40:08.000 That bit, he said, took like a year to work out.
02:40:10.000 I believe it.
02:40:11.000 It's long and it's heavy.
02:40:12.000 It's heavy.
02:40:13.000 And he said people were mad at him when he first started doing it.
02:40:15.000 Black people.
02:40:15.000 It wasn't doing well.
02:40:16.000 Yeah.
02:40:16.000 But he figured out a way to just cut it down to this perfect form.
02:40:21.000 Just polish the diamond to the point where it's now like one of the most iconic bits of all time.
02:40:27.000 Amazing.
02:40:27.000 As a guy who grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood, that bit hit home.
02:40:31.000 That was huge.
02:40:32.000 It's a murderous bit.
02:40:33.000 Unbelievable.
02:40:34.000 It's poignant, it's hilarious, it's great.
02:40:37.000 Tight.
02:40:37.000 Tight as hell.
02:40:38.000 So many tags.
02:40:39.000 Yeah, it made him.
02:40:40.000 But it was also undeniable.
02:40:42.000 Like, the shit that he was saying in the bit was so undeniable.
02:40:45.000 It was so well made.
02:40:46.000 Yeah.
02:40:47.000 You know, but that guy, it took a long time.
02:40:49.000 Now imagine if somebody released that when there was a crowd that was mad at him.
02:40:52.000 Yeah.
02:40:52.000 Maybe they did it today, and it was one of the times where he's first trying it out, and, you know, someone releases it.
02:40:57.000 Like, you can't, that's not, you know, it's, comedy is a long process.
02:41:03.000 You can go watch it happen.
02:41:04.000 One of the cool things about the store is you'll get people that come back multiple times, and they'll say, hey man, I saw you do this bit five months ago.
02:41:11.000 It's so much better now.
02:41:12.000 Oh, that's amazing.
02:41:13.000 Five months ago, it kind of sucked a little bit, I'm not going to lie.
02:41:16.000 I'm embarrassed you were there.
02:41:17.000 That's the flaw of our art form, and I hate to keep calling it an art form because I sound like a pretentious cleef.
02:41:22.000 As long as it's an edgy art form.
02:41:26.000 But you need people to work it out so they see the shit.
02:41:30.000 It wouldn't be nice if you could go tinker in a lab and then go, I got it!
02:41:34.000 Eureka!
02:41:34.000 But no, you gotta slog it out in front of these fucking fat white idiots.
02:41:38.000 I don't know anybody who is capable of writing all their material perfect with no crowd.
02:41:45.000 Page to State.
02:41:45.000 A friend of mine, Sam Murill, is like a joke technician beast, and he'll text me shit.
02:41:50.000 I'm like, that's amazing.
02:41:51.000 And he'll just go right up and do it.
02:41:53.000 But it's tough, man.
02:41:55.000 I like to play around with it on stage because you never know where it could go, and then you find a new thing because the audience and the laughter helps you go a certain direction.
02:42:03.000 So I think a half and half is good.
02:42:05.000 Yeah, it's all different styles, too.
02:42:08.000 I think a guy like Hedberg, that's a completely unique style.
02:42:13.000 And he used to write a lot, apparently.
02:42:15.000 He wrote a lot.
02:42:16.000 He had a lot of material.
02:42:17.000 A friend of mine opened for him two things.
02:42:19.000 He said he showed up.
02:42:20.000 He was sleeping on a couch, probably like a heroin high.
02:42:22.000 And he just goes, Hi, I'm Neil.
02:42:25.000 And the guy goes, Best job in the world.
02:42:26.000 And fell back asleep.
02:42:27.000 So that's fun.
02:42:29.000 And then two, he said he would put pages out on the front of the stage, in front of the microphone, and it was all like a new bit, like note cards.
02:42:35.000 And so he would go, joke, joke, joke, then he would try a new one, and then he would go, okay, joke one of the note card didn't work, and he just did that all night.
02:42:44.000 Wow.
02:42:44.000 Because with those short jokes, you have to have a lot of them.
02:42:47.000 Oh, yeah.
02:42:48.000 So...
02:42:48.000 Yeah, I would imagine, like, when he did a special, I wonder if he had those note cards out on the stage when he did it, because everything's non-sequiturs.
02:42:54.000 Yeah, that's true.
02:42:55.000 And he's on heroin.
02:42:56.000 Yeah.
02:42:56.000 So he's not really...
02:42:57.000 How the fuck do you remember all the bits when you're on heroin?
02:43:01.000 Did you know...
02:43:02.000 You probably knew all these heroin guys, because comics...
02:43:04.000 I knew him a little.
02:43:05.000 Stanhope was closer to him than I was.
02:43:07.000 I'd worked with him before at the comedy store.
02:43:09.000 I knew him a little.
02:43:10.000 I was always a giant fan, though.
02:43:13.000 He's one of my favorite things to listen to when I would go to the airport.
02:43:17.000 Because I would go to the airport and it would be like, traffic sucks.
02:43:21.000 But he was so silly.
02:43:23.000 It would put it all into perspective.
02:43:25.000 I'd just be laughing at silly nonsense.
02:43:27.000 And so it was a good thing to listen to for me.
02:43:31.000 I associate it with going to the airport.
02:43:34.000 Interesting.
02:43:35.000 Yeah.
02:43:35.000 Well, it's funny because I always use, people go, you know, when you do a joke that's offensive, they go, you think racism is funny?
02:43:41.000 Yeah, if it's said the right way.
02:43:43.000 You know, it's like, I don't think rice is funny, but when Hedberg goes, rice is great when you're hungry for 2,000 of something, that's fucking genius!
02:43:51.000 So rice isn't funny, but you make it funny.
02:43:53.000 It's the same with racism or the Holocaust or miscarriages or whatever.
02:43:56.000 You make it funny.
02:43:57.000 That's what jokes are.
02:43:59.000 Well, this is a time of compliance, and this is one of the things that we've been talking about.
02:44:02.000 It's compliance.
02:44:04.000 People want you to comply.
02:44:05.000 They decide that this is a new day, and you're going to have to change your way.
02:44:09.000 Oh, boo-hoo, comedians, you can't say what you want anymore.
02:44:12.000 Yeah, there's consequences.
02:44:14.000 Tough shit.
02:44:14.000 I get it.
02:44:15.000 They say that because they're not comics.
02:44:17.000 So they don't care.
02:44:18.000 They don't care whether or not they tank your career or stop you from telling jokes.
02:44:22.000 They don't care.
02:44:23.000 They want compliance.
02:44:24.000 They want compliance over at fucking Google.
02:44:28.000 They want compliance over at the Chevy dealership.
02:44:31.000 They want compliance.
02:44:32.000 What is happening now is a trend of compliance.
02:44:36.000 And some of it's gussied up in the social justice warrior ethic.
02:44:39.000 And some people are sincere.
02:44:41.000 Some people are really trying to help.
02:44:42.000 And all those things exist at the same time.
02:44:44.000 Because there's always been people that are trying to get people to listen to them and do what they want.
02:44:49.000 And, you know, we've always had friends that decide they're going to dominate where we go and what to say.
02:44:54.000 You know that one person.
02:44:55.000 Sure, sure.
02:44:55.000 Look, we're going.
02:44:56.000 It's the best fucking movie.
02:44:58.000 Trust me.
02:44:58.000 Come on, all of us.
02:44:59.000 We're going.
02:45:00.000 Oh, great.
02:45:01.000 We've got to go to Mike's movie.
02:45:02.000 That's always happened.
02:45:03.000 People always wanted to tell people what to do.
02:45:05.000 This is a version of that.
02:45:08.000 Along with, there's a motive.
02:45:10.000 Like, well, wouldn't it be better if there's no racism?
02:45:12.000 Yes.
02:45:12.000 What's the best way?
02:45:13.000 Demand inclusion.
02:45:14.000 Demand women be hired everywhere.
02:45:16.000 Demand every board has a woman on it.
02:45:19.000 So this is the way they're going.
02:45:20.000 But that's not the right way either.
02:45:22.000 The right way is to never keep someone from the position because they're a woman.
02:45:26.000 But it's not to hire a woman if they suck.
02:45:29.000 Yeah, I agree.
02:45:30.000 Because the man is right there and he's great.
02:45:31.000 And I'm assuming that that's the case.
02:45:33.000 It's also not to hire the man.
02:45:34.000 Because he said, we have to have some men.
02:45:36.000 No.
02:45:37.000 No, just the best.
02:45:38.000 Just hire the best.
02:45:39.000 I agree.
02:45:40.000 Hire the women.
02:45:40.000 Also, you want to pepper in that the media is a bunch of koozes who just come in and go...
02:45:45.000 Ooh, we got a fucking, just a sizzle of a scandal.
02:45:49.000 Throw it out there.
02:45:50.000 Yeah, but it might ruin a guy's name, career, and life.
02:45:53.000 Ah, who cares?
02:45:54.000 Put it out there.
02:45:54.000 We might get one click from Bed Bath& Beyond.
02:45:56.000 It's worth it.
02:45:57.000 His whole name is tarnished.
02:46:00.000 But hey, we might get some ad money from Ray-Ban.
02:46:04.000 Throw it on!
02:46:05.000 But this is the click world.
02:46:06.000 I mean, these people are starving to death, these journalists.
02:46:08.000 They have to get clickbaity titles.
02:46:10.000 They have to have clickbaity stories.
02:46:12.000 If they don't, no one's clicking.
02:46:14.000 And God forbid you work for some place that's got a subscription model.
02:46:17.000 So if you're writing for the Washington Post and the New York Times, and you can read a chapter, and it's like, if you would like to read more, please subscribe.
02:46:27.000 Right, right.
02:46:28.000 They give you a taste like a crack dealer.
02:46:30.000 Have you noticed?
02:46:31.000 I subscribe to a lot of them, but I almost reluctantly click through with my login info.
02:46:37.000 Because I'm like, what are you doing to me here?
02:46:39.000 I already subscribe and you're hitting me with this grossness.
02:46:43.000 Right, but how do they sleep at night?
02:46:44.000 They have to.
02:46:45.000 That's the only way to survive.
02:46:46.000 I guess so.
02:47:08.000 We're good to go.
02:47:29.000 It's going to happen.
02:47:30.000 You fed that monster and it bit your leg.
02:47:32.000 Yes!
02:47:32.000 There you go.
02:47:32.000 You fed it.
02:47:33.000 You fed that monster.
02:47:34.000 No one's standing up.
02:47:35.000 The real problem is stopping the real issues, whether it's sexism or homophobia.
02:47:43.000 The real homophobia.
02:47:44.000 People chanting, all fags go to hell.
02:47:48.000 Sure.
02:47:49.000 Those Westboro Baptist churches.
02:47:50.000 That's real homophobia.
02:47:52.000 That's real.
02:47:53.000 Of course.
02:47:53.000 It's not this perceived thing because you don't think that it's the best idea for trans men to use a child's girl's bathroom.
02:48:02.000 Right.
02:48:03.000 You know what I mean?
02:48:03.000 Like, what are we doing here?
02:48:04.000 No, we're all together.
02:48:06.000 Everyone.
02:48:06.000 All genders.
02:48:07.000 Gender non-specific.
02:48:08.000 Enormous bathrooms with giant men with dresses on shitting right next to little girls.
02:48:13.000 Right.
02:48:13.000 You know, while your father waits outside.
02:48:15.000 Like, what is this?
02:48:16.000 I'm with you.
02:48:17.000 And it stunts progress, because, you know, you might say a fact, like, you just read off Google, you know, you read off the census or whatever, and it says, like, the dropout rate with black children is through the roof or whatever, and then you say that, and people go, whoa, whoa, you racist!
02:48:32.000 You're like, well, maybe if we work on that, we can solve this problem and help it, or, you know, like, I thought you cared about this group, like, let's try to, you know, it's like if we had a leaky pipe, and you're like, we gotta fix that, but whoa, whoa, what do you, hate pipes?
02:48:44.000 Yeah.
02:48:44.000 No, let's work on it.
02:48:46.000 Let's help.
02:48:47.000 Isn't that the whole point?
02:48:48.000 But if you call somebody these horrible things, then the media picks up on that one little headline, that one tweet, and now you're fucked.
02:48:56.000 So you can't do anything.
02:48:58.000 Now you're just like, fuck, I won't even leave the house or tweet or say anything.
02:49:01.000 Well, this is a fairly new thing, right?
02:49:03.000 The world of clickbait articles online.
02:49:05.000 And I think it's going to probably morph into something else.
02:49:08.000 Yeah.
02:49:08.000 We probably don't even see that coming.
02:49:10.000 I guess.
02:49:11.000 That's what I'm thinking.
02:49:12.000 It feels like we're just going to go into two camps.
02:49:15.000 You want some of those?
02:49:16.000 I'm okay.
02:49:16.000 That's what I thought.
02:49:18.000 That's heavy duty.
02:49:19.000 Oh, J-Mo's going to touch it.
02:49:20.000 J-Mo can't get high enough.
02:49:22.000 He can eat like a thousand milligram edibles and it barely affects him.
02:49:26.000 I'm a shroom guy.
02:49:27.000 J-Me, me too.
02:49:28.000 Oh, yeah?
02:49:28.000 I enjoy them.
02:49:29.000 Oh, I love a shroom.
02:49:30.000 That's my favorite drug.
02:49:31.000 It's a pretty goddamn good drug.
02:49:33.000 I mean, no hangover.
02:49:34.000 It's five hours.
02:49:35.000 You feel a lot better after it's over.
02:49:36.000 Yeah, you feel good.
02:49:37.000 You think some good shit.
02:49:38.000 It's almost like clearing the trash.
02:49:41.000 Yeah, like a defragging of the hard drive.
02:49:44.000 Yes, yes.
02:49:44.000 You see some shit clearly, you laugh.
02:49:47.000 It's almost, you can't live like that, because you just stare at that knife and go, alright, that knife was made in Taiwan.
02:49:54.000 Some guy, he had a life, he had a wife, he had kids, he was molested.
02:49:58.000 Like, you just keep going back, and you're like, whoa, shit, I've spent two hours on the knife.
02:50:02.000 And then if you do that with everything in the fucking room, Jamie's gay, then you go off into that world.
02:50:07.000 Never move.
02:50:07.000 You never move!
02:50:08.000 That's true.
02:50:09.000 Yeah.
02:50:09.000 Or you go too far and then you're like, what's the point?
02:50:12.000 Right.
02:50:13.000 Yes, exactly.
02:50:14.000 Well, I am one of everything.
02:50:15.000 I'm a part of a molecule.
02:50:16.000 Exactly.
02:50:17.000 And this molecule combines with all other molecules around it.
02:50:20.000 Right.
02:50:20.000 Need some Sam Harris shit.
02:50:24.000 That's why I love Neil deGrasse.
02:50:26.000 I can just listen to that guy, because he makes science accessible, and I'm like, oh, he's so right!
02:50:29.000 He took a sip of water, that water had a molecule in it from Abraham Lincoln, who fucked a kid, and that kid, you know, rode a donkey down a hill.
02:50:37.000 I don't think Abraham Lincoln fucked any kids, bro.
02:50:39.000 He freed the slaves.
02:50:40.000 That top hat had a kid in it.
02:50:42.000 Oh no!
02:50:43.000 Four-year-old and seven-year-old ago.
02:50:46.000 I find this really hard to hear.
02:50:48.000 Sorry.
02:50:49.000 See, I like horrific jokes.
02:50:51.000 I do too, man.
02:50:52.000 Roast Battle's one of the rare places still left where they can go hard in the paint.
02:50:58.000 Right, right.
02:50:59.000 I love that.
02:50:59.000 And then they hug afterwards.
02:51:01.000 Yeah!
02:51:01.000 That's like part of the show.
02:51:03.000 Like, you know, Moses sets up the rules when he gets on stage, and he says, when it's over, no physical, nobody gets physical, no pushing, no shoving, no hitting.
02:51:13.000 Yeah.
02:51:13.000 But afterwards, everybody hugs.
02:51:15.000 I love it.
02:51:15.000 I've seen that.
02:51:16.000 There's like a handicapped kid who gets fucking brutally shit on, and then he'll shit on someone else with like...
02:51:22.000 And it's funny, because you go...
02:51:23.000 We talk about slut-shaming and fat-shaming.
02:51:25.000 You go down to the core again, and...
02:51:28.000 Those are all the jokes.
02:51:29.000 You know, you fuck black guys.
02:51:31.000 You're fat as shit.
02:51:32.000 You're a whore.
02:51:33.000 You're secretly gay.
02:51:34.000 Your mom fucks everybody.
02:51:36.000 Like, it all comes back to those old, you know, those old things we pretend like, oh, that doesn't matter.
02:51:41.000 You can do whatever you want.
02:51:42.000 But yet, when it comes to insults, it all goes back to that hard shit.
02:51:45.000 It's part of being a person.
02:51:47.000 Yeah!
02:51:47.000 I mean, this utopia they're chasing, if they ever achieved it, it would be the most boring fucking place on earth.
02:51:53.000 It's not that we shouldn't work towards utopia because that's ultimately going to make reality better.
02:51:58.000 Agreed.
02:51:58.000 And it is better already.
02:51:59.000 Yeah, it's definitely better.
02:52:00.000 That's another thing that people don't like to hear.
02:52:02.000 Even though there is racism and sexism and murder and rape and crime all over the world, it is a fucking way better place to live today than it's ever been in history.
02:52:12.000 Oh, yeah.
02:52:13.000 And we're lucky.
02:52:13.000 No doubt about it.
02:52:14.000 You and I and everybody listening to this, we're all lucky that we're alive this time.
02:52:18.000 This is the time where you don't have to worry about invading hordes of Mongols coming over the hills with swords and fucking bows and arrows.
02:52:27.000 You don't have to worry about most things that people lived in fear of in terms of disease and injury.
02:52:34.000 Most of that stuff they can fix.
02:52:36.000 Yeah.
02:52:36.000 They can diagnose things now.
02:52:38.000 People live way longer now.
02:52:40.000 There's nutrition and health.
02:52:41.000 There's way more things to do and listen to.
02:52:44.000 Oh, yeah.
02:52:45.000 Think about if nobody was smart enough to invent a plane or the internet or cars.
02:52:49.000 We'd be fucked.
02:52:50.000 There's more geniuses now than ever in history.
02:52:52.000 Yes, this is a wonderful time.
02:52:54.000 Yeah, there's a few problems, but there's also a bunch of whining cunts who fuck up everything because all they do is constantly complain, and they make you miss the beauty of life.
02:53:04.000 Yes, what did I say?
02:53:05.000 The better things are, the more people complain.
02:53:07.000 It's the rich lady at the nice restaurant with the lukewarm champagne.
02:53:11.000 It's also people that are in this cult.
02:53:12.000 There's a cultural trend.
02:53:14.000 The cultural trend is like complaining and activism, and they think that even journalists should be activists.
02:53:20.000 Right.
02:53:20.000 Right.
02:53:20.000 And that they should be promoting the ideology that they subscribe to.
02:53:23.000 I mean, this is what's also leading to a lot of this censoring people on social media and de-platforming people.
02:53:32.000 All that stuff comes from the same sort of idea that you're socially engineering the world.
02:53:37.000 Instead of subscribing to the First Amendment, to freedom of speech, so we can all work out who's right and who's wrong.
02:53:46.000 Yeah.
02:53:47.000 But as soon as you say that someone can't talk, then you don't allow this working out process.
02:53:52.000 No discussion.
02:53:52.000 You've just decided that you're the dictator.
02:53:54.000 Right, right.
02:53:54.000 And so if you've got this culture of compliance, where everybody is almost shamed and bullied into believing one thing, and pushed into this direction, And especially when the vast majority of tech is controlled,
02:54:11.000 at least socially, by people that subscribe to very progressive ideas and very liberal ideas.
02:54:16.000 And that's also a part of the culture of the people that are going to universities, and those are the people that are getting the jobs at Google, right?
02:54:22.000 So it's all this self-fueling thing.
02:54:26.000 Yeah, and I'm a liberal cuck, douche, twat, loser, but I feel like you've got to have some common sense here.
02:54:33.000 You've got to stay out of that weird fog that everybody gets in, and then the brainwashing happens, and they all start blowing each other, and it's chaos.
02:54:41.000 Yeah, you've got to stay out of the weeds.
02:54:43.000 And even that Andrew Yang guy talking about getting people to stop eating meat.
02:54:48.000 Like, hey, no.
02:54:50.000 Yeah, come on.
02:54:51.000 Stop.
02:54:51.000 You can't.
02:54:52.000 That's what I liked about him.
02:54:53.000 He was analytical.
02:54:53.000 He was just, let's fix this problem that's broken.
02:54:56.000 He probably believes that that's key to making the world a better place.
02:55:01.000 All right.
02:55:01.000 I think there's a lot of people that would argue against that.
02:55:04.000 I think if he sat down with those people and had a debate, I don't think he'd do well.
02:55:08.000 Yeah.
02:55:08.000 I think if someone who could explain the nutrition requirement, like really explain, like a Chris Kresser guy, based on actual science, someone like Rhonda Patrick, no one...
02:55:20.000 You're not gonna stop people from eating beef.
02:55:22.000 Just stop.
02:55:23.000 That's not smart.
02:55:24.000 It's not wise.
02:55:25.000 You're gonna put all these ranchers out of business.
02:55:27.000 It's an elitist thing to say.
02:55:28.000 You don't understand how many jobs are on the line.
02:55:30.000 You don't understand how many people love steak and wouldn't have a problem.
02:55:33.000 If you don't kill the cow, tell me what happens.
02:55:35.000 They live forever?
02:55:37.000 What happens?
02:55:37.000 They become fairies?
02:55:38.000 What happens?
02:55:39.000 Then they're dead, sitting there.
02:55:41.000 Let them free, and they get taken out by bears and mountain lions in your backyard.
02:55:44.000 So we rise of predators, or we just let them breed everywhere.
02:55:47.000 Interesting.
02:55:48.000 And then every time you're trying to drive to the store, a bull comes and smashes into the side of your fucking car because it's got a heart on.
02:55:53.000 Right.
02:55:53.000 Because that would happen.
02:55:54.000 We're going to let them roam free?
02:55:55.000 What are you going to do?
02:55:56.000 Are you going to cull them?
02:55:57.000 Are you going to give them birth control?
02:55:58.000 What are you going to do?
02:55:59.000 What are you going to do at this point?
02:55:59.000 How about we just eat them responsibly and ethically?
02:56:02.000 How about that?
02:56:03.000 How about we feed them grass, it's real healthy food, and if you believe a life is life, just one life is worth a life, well, you're responsible for way more death because you're responsible for birds and bugs and ground nesting birds and fucking rodents and anything that gets chopped bunnies,
02:56:19.000 they get chopped up in those combines.
02:56:21.000 Yeah.
02:56:21.000 Farmlands that displace wild animals left and right.
02:56:24.000 They put fucking pesticides into the ground.
02:56:27.000 There's a lot of fucking chemicals that get released into the ground.
02:56:31.000 Even what you would call organic agriculture.
02:56:34.000 You're still using machines.
02:56:37.000 There's a lot of bad shit that happens to the world.
02:56:40.000 It's also funny how these people love animals so much, and yet if you watch an animal planet...
02:56:45.000 Animals are the most vicious, cruel, evil, survivalist.
02:56:49.000 They're just, get out of my way.
02:56:51.000 I want to save my family or eat dinner.
02:56:52.000 But they're right about factory farming.
02:56:54.000 They're right about the repulsive feeling that you get when you look at animals.
02:56:59.000 They're stuffed into these pens and these inhumane conditions.
02:57:02.000 They're right about that.
02:57:03.000 They're not right about farms, though.
02:57:05.000 I think?
02:57:35.000 You know, I think they supplement them with other food as well, and healthy food, but they don't behave like a scared animal that's trapped in a pen just freaking out.
02:57:45.000 They live like an animal lives.
02:57:47.000 Yeah.
02:57:48.000 You know, the argument, and it's a real argument, like, why should you be able to kill?
02:57:52.000 Why should you be able to eat something that's an animal?
02:57:54.000 It's a good argument.
02:57:55.000 It's a real argument.
02:57:56.000 And if you really are an ethical person, and you look at that argument, and that's your point, like, we shouldn't be able to kill.
02:58:03.000 I understand you don't want anything to die and you don't want anything to suffer.
02:58:07.000 The way I look at it is the natural world is this fucking shark tank.
02:58:13.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:58:14.000 And all you're doing, if you're eating meat, if you're eating it in an ethical way, you're removing most of that from the animal's life.
02:58:20.000 And at the end of the animal's life, you're putting a bolt through its brain.
02:58:23.000 You might think...
02:58:25.000 That that's a horrible, terrible thing to do that that cow gets shut off in a second.
02:58:30.000 But if that cow was living in the real world, it would get ripped apart by wolves.
02:58:37.000 That's what a cow used to be.
02:58:39.000 It used to be an animal that had to run for its life and the wolves would sneak up on them and they would tear their legs apart and start eating them asshole first.
02:58:46.000 I've seen the ducks.
02:58:47.000 That's what every animal does.
02:58:48.000 It's crazy.
02:58:49.000 They all die like that.
02:58:50.000 All herbivores that live in a farm environment, if they're free range, if they're grass-fed cows that are just wandering around, all of them I think?
02:59:21.000 That's when they have a problem, when grizzlies and wolves find out about their cattle.
02:59:24.000 So when the natural enemies of these animals encounter them in these encaged areas, then they have to keep them out.
02:59:31.000 They have to protect these animals that they're going to kill from the animals that want to kill them.
02:59:35.000 The whole thing is crazy.
02:59:37.000 It's crazy, yeah.
02:59:37.000 But it's crazy on both sides.
02:59:39.000 It's all entitlement, really.
02:59:41.000 It's like a narcissism.
02:59:42.000 What?
02:59:42.000 We need to stop this.
02:59:43.000 But you're like, no, the world has a plan already.
02:59:46.000 It's going to happen.
02:59:46.000 There's a food chain and a pecking order, and they're going to get eaten.
02:59:50.000 But I don't think we should support factory farming, and I think they're right about that.
02:59:54.000 I think when you see factory farming, you see the horrific conditions that some of these animals have to live in, and then they just...
03:00:01.000 I mean, some of the pig farms, man, they flew a drone over one of them, and it had a lake.
03:00:06.000 I mean, like a lake filled with pig shit and piss.
03:00:10.000 And it was the most disgusting-looking fucking lake, and these animals were all stuffed into this area, and they would shit into this pipe, and the pipe would lead into these enormous lakes of pig shit and piss.
03:00:21.000 And you're like, well, these are like these meat factories, these meat-slash-torture factories.
03:00:26.000 Sure.
03:00:27.000 That's not how a pig's supposed to live.
03:00:29.000 Right.
03:00:29.000 A pig's supposed to live like the Joel Salatin pigs live.
03:00:32.000 I thought pigs liked shit.
03:00:32.000 They're wandering around.
03:00:33.000 Didn't they like pig and shit?
03:00:34.000 Didn't that the thing?
03:00:36.000 Slop.
03:00:37.000 They like to roll around.
03:00:38.000 Some pigs, I think, like to roll around and shit.
03:00:39.000 They definitely roll around and shit, but they don't want to just live stuffed on top until they're shitting into a metal grate.
03:00:46.000 Ew.
03:00:47.000 You ever see that video, Jamie?
03:00:48.000 Yeah.
03:00:49.000 Right, of course.
03:00:50.000 Yeah.
03:00:50.000 We get pulled off of YouTube, but it's a pretty terrifying video.
03:00:54.000 It's like rehab.
03:00:54.000 You ever look at a rehab?
03:00:55.000 They're always so nice.
03:00:56.000 You know, these people are always like, oh, this person was a heroin addict, we've got to save them.
03:01:01.000 I'm like, man, I should get on heroin and go to rehab.
03:01:03.000 They're like in Malibu and shit.
03:01:04.000 Yeah, they overlook the ocean.
03:01:06.000 Yeah, they're amazing.
03:01:07.000 Peaceful birds.
03:01:07.000 It looks pretty good.
03:01:09.000 Right.
03:01:10.000 But hey, I've never done heroin because I know I'll get hooked.
03:01:14.000 Yeah, it seems like one to avoid.
03:01:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:01:17.000 I don't even think pain pills are good to take.
03:01:20.000 I've dabbled, but yeah, I know how addictive it is.
03:01:23.000 Jordan Peterson just checked himself into rehab.
03:01:25.000 What?
03:01:25.000 Yeah.
03:01:26.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa!
03:01:27.000 For what?
03:01:28.000 He got on an anti-anxiety medication because his wife is dealing with...
03:01:36.000 His wife's dealing with heavy cancer, like liver cancer, and she's been going through operations, and apparently she's doing well now, and he's trying to get off of this stuff, and when he tried to get off of it, he had such a horrible withdrawal that he,
03:01:53.000 this is according to his daughter, It's on the news, yeah.
03:01:57.000 He had to check himself in.
03:01:58.000 So it's an anti-anxiety medication, apparently.
03:02:01.000 That's how it's used.
03:02:02.000 It's one of the ways it's used.
03:02:04.000 But it's a strong one.
03:02:05.000 Klonopin, it sounds like a drug that people take.
03:02:07.000 I mean, my friends took that in high school.
03:02:09.000 That's no Xanax.
03:02:10.000 That's like heavy duty.
03:02:11.000 What is it like?
03:02:12.000 It was just like it shut you down.
03:02:15.000 Is that one of the ones that they use to take people off of heroin?
03:02:19.000 That's methadone, I think.
03:02:20.000 But isn't there another one?
03:02:22.000 Isn't Klonopin one of those ones that they use as therapeutic?
03:02:25.000 I just know people take it recreationally and go in a K-hole.
03:02:27.000 They do?
03:02:27.000 Yeah.
03:02:28.000 Oh, K-holes.
03:02:29.000 Klonopin puts you in a K-hole too?
03:02:30.000 Or that's ketamine, I'm sorry.
03:02:32.000 Ketamine, yeah.
03:02:32.000 But I've seen people take it too.
03:02:34.000 It'll fuck you up.
03:02:35.000 It just fucks you up.
03:02:35.000 Yeah, like two beers and one of my friends tried to jump out of a window on it.
03:02:39.000 Like, it is bad news.
03:02:40.000 I think he was just really devastated that his wife was essentially dying right in front of his eyes.
03:02:45.000 And so he probably couldn't handle it, so he got on some medication.
03:02:49.000 Wow, he's one of those guys you're like, ah, he's tough as a bull, he'll be fine.
03:02:53.000 But then, you know, everybody's human.
03:02:54.000 Well, also, I think he's wise enough to understand his physical limitations, and I have never experienced real withdrawal.
03:03:02.000 I mean, I've experienced, like, caffeine withdrawal, but never, like, a real opiate withdrawal.
03:03:07.000 Apparently, it's fucking horrible.
03:03:09.000 It might actually be a smart thing to check yourself into rehab with people that know how to deal with it and help you through it, you know?
03:03:16.000 I guess it's the same thing as Klonopin.
03:03:18.000 It's called Klonazepam.
03:03:20.000 Yeah.
03:03:20.000 Oh, okay.
03:03:21.000 So there's, like, a street name?
03:03:22.000 Yeah.
03:03:24.000 But a doctor prescribed it, right?
03:03:26.000 Which is weird.
03:03:26.000 Like, oh, the doctor gave him the crack.
03:03:28.000 It's okay.
03:03:28.000 Well, all those pills are bad news.
03:03:30.000 It's pharmacy crack.
03:03:31.000 Yeah.
03:03:31.000 That's what fentanyl is, right?
03:03:33.000 Fentanyl is out of control.
03:03:34.000 It can treat panic disorder and anxiety and seizures.
03:03:37.000 It can cause paranoid or suicidal ideation and impair memory, judgment, and coordination.
03:03:43.000 This makes sense for a lot of people I know.
03:03:46.000 Combining with other substances, particularly alcohol, can slow breathing and possibly lead to death.
03:03:50.000 Jesus.
03:03:51.000 Mm-hmm.
03:03:51.000 There you go.
03:03:52.000 Doctor needed.
03:03:53.000 Doctor, doctor.
03:03:55.000 Prescription.
03:03:56.000 Hook it up.
03:03:57.000 Dude, I can't.
03:03:58.000 I just can't.
03:03:59.000 I need some Klonopin.
03:03:59.000 But you never take a Percocet and just lay it in a pool?
03:04:03.000 No.
03:04:03.000 Oh, baby.
03:04:05.000 I took either a Percocet or a Vicodin once at one of my knee surgeries.
03:04:09.000 Yeah.
03:04:10.000 And I was like, this is terrible.
03:04:11.000 Oh, really?
03:04:12.000 Oh, my God.
03:04:13.000 I hated it.
03:04:13.000 Whoa, that's good.
03:04:14.000 That's a blessing.
03:04:15.000 You don't want to like it.
03:04:16.000 It made me really stupid.
03:04:17.000 Yeah.
03:04:18.000 Like, my brain was so numb, I was like, I'd rather be in pain.
03:04:21.000 Wow!
03:04:21.000 Ignorance is bliss.
03:04:22.000 Anti-convulsion or anti-epileptic drug as well, huh?
03:04:27.000 That means it's strong.
03:04:29.000 So it must do a bunch of different shit.
03:04:31.000 Yeah.
03:04:31.000 Also used to treat panic attacks.
03:04:32.000 So he must have been having panic attacks.
03:04:34.000 Yeah, I mean, if it's the best time of your life, you know, you were an embattled professor fighting against social justice warriors and some sort of crazy law that was going to enforce 198,000 gender pronouns, and he was like, hey, this is crazy.
03:04:49.000 Like, let's stop, stop, stop.
03:04:50.000 Yeah, I remember that.
03:04:51.000 And then he becomes a national celebrity, and people fight him and they're angry with him, but also people are realizing the extent of the chaos that's going on in these universities.
03:04:59.000 We're these they, them, zim, zur.
03:05:01.000 They demand these pronouns, these nonsensical, made-up pronouns.
03:05:06.000 And he was like, you can't enforce speech.
03:05:08.000 You can't enforce people.
03:05:09.000 He's like, do you understand what this is and where this goes?
03:05:12.000 It leads to tyranny.
03:05:14.000 And everybody thought he was being, like, really exaggerating and over the top.
03:05:18.000 But then as time's gone on, you realize, like, oh no, he just saw all this.
03:05:22.000 He saw all this coming.
03:05:24.000 He was right.
03:05:25.000 Like, people are radicalizing.
03:05:26.000 And it's about, a lot of it is about compliance.
03:05:30.000 They want people to comply.
03:05:31.000 I want you to comply with my new pronouns.
03:05:33.000 Have you ever seen that video?
03:05:34.000 There's a video where this guy goes up and he says, Hey guys, point of privilege.
03:05:44.000 What did he get a problem with?
03:05:46.000 I get distracted very easily.
03:05:48.000 And if you could just please keep the fidgeting and the moving around.
03:05:51.000 And then this other guy gets up after him and says, I just want to stop the gendered language.
03:05:58.000 And they're serious.
03:06:00.000 And the woman who's giving the speech is calling everyone comrades.
03:06:04.000 She's calling them comrades because she's like a socialist.
03:06:06.000 You've got to listen to this.
03:06:07.000 You're going to fucking howl.
03:06:08.000 Give me some volume.
03:06:09.000 Is this a university?
03:06:12.000 No, it's at some...
03:06:13.000 Oh, it's a socialist convention.
03:06:14.000 Yes.
03:06:15.000 Here, listen to this.
03:06:16.000 To defeat capitalism, we are going to need a party that will organize working people to fight for the demands that we want and to win socialism.
03:06:24.000 Thank you so much.
03:06:26.000 Quick point of privilege.
03:06:27.000 Quick point of privilege.
03:06:29.000 Guys, first of all, James Jackson, Sacramento, he, him.
03:06:33.000 I just want to say, can we please keep the chatter to a minimum?
03:06:36.000 I'm one of the people who's very, very prone to sensory overload.
03:06:39.000 There's a lot of whispering and chatter going on.
03:06:41.000 It's making it very difficult for me to focus.
03:06:43.000 I know we're all fresh and ready to go, but can we please just keep the chatter to a minimum?
03:06:47.000 It's affecting my ability to focus.
03:06:49.000 Thank you.
03:06:50.000 Hold on.
03:06:50.000 Not enough.
03:06:51.000 Thank you, comrade.
03:06:53.000 Point of personal privilege.
03:06:56.000 Yes.
03:06:56.000 Please do not use gendered language to address everyone.
03:07:02.000 Oh, this is scary, man.
03:07:07.000 Oh, wow.
03:07:08.000 Oh, wow.
03:07:10.000 I've played this gig, by the way.
03:07:12.000 Thank you, comrade.
03:07:14.000 That is the person that went up there.
03:07:16.000 Oh, boy.
03:07:17.000 Some dude would address in a red wig.
03:07:19.000 I just want to hug these guys.
03:07:20.000 Come on, folks.
03:07:21.000 We got a life to live.
03:07:22.000 I just want to watch them from a distance on YouTube.
03:07:24.000 Well, yeah.
03:07:25.000 That's a good point.
03:07:26.000 I don't want to hug.
03:07:27.000 I don't want to be there.
03:07:28.000 I don't want to be there either, but I... Thank you, comrade.
03:07:30.000 We're going to make socialism win.
03:07:32.000 No.
03:07:32.000 That's their foot soldiers.
03:07:34.000 People that get easily distracted and get mad when you call everybody guys.
03:07:37.000 Point of privilege.
03:07:38.000 Woo!
03:07:38.000 Point of personal privilege.
03:07:40.000 I didn't know that was a new thing, but I'm going to use that from now on.
03:07:42.000 I like that.
03:07:42.000 Every time I'm upset about something at my house, I'm going to say, point of privilege.
03:07:46.000 Could you guys turn the volume down on your stupid, shitty show you're watching?
03:07:49.000 Next time I get heckled at a show, I'm going to go, hey, you didn't say point of privilege before you called me a homo.
03:07:53.000 When I was still working at a restaurant, they made it a point to tell us that at two restaurants, I sat us down, this is probably 2010, 2011, to stop saying, I've seen it come around now, again, to stop saying guys, to stop saying like, hey guys, what would you like to eat?
03:08:06.000 They made us like folks, or like, don't use the word guys.
03:08:11.000 I love the word folks.
03:08:12.000 I use it all the time.
03:08:13.000 I use folks all the time.
03:08:15.000 It's a fun thing to say.
03:08:17.000 Yeah, I like it.
03:08:18.000 I like it.
03:08:19.000 I actually enjoy the word.
03:08:20.000 It's very comedy.
03:08:21.000 Hello, folks!
03:08:22.000 Yeah, it's like a light-hearted sort of greeting.
03:08:25.000 I'm into it.
03:08:26.000 Folks is good.
03:08:27.000 I'm on board with folks.
03:08:28.000 The problem I had with it, all of the tables wouldn't do it back to us.
03:08:31.000 They would all use guys, and it would almost a lot of times be women using it, and I'm like, I'm fighting the language we're using.
03:08:37.000 Well, that's a microcosm for the whole country, isn't it?
03:08:39.000 You should explain to them that they're not woke, and you should have educated them.
03:08:44.000 This was an opportunity to educate, and you fucking dropped the ball.
03:08:48.000 That's how they turn on you.
03:08:49.000 They turn on you.
03:08:50.000 You should use your platform for good.
03:08:52.000 This is an opportunity to educate, and what are you doing?
03:08:55.000 If your comedy is not involving progress and social justice, then it's bullshit.
03:08:59.000 This was during Occupy Wall Street, so mic checks are still a thing.
03:09:03.000 Oh, mic check.
03:09:04.000 Mic check was my favorite.
03:09:05.000 What's mic check?
03:09:05.000 They would yell it out.
03:09:06.000 Mic check!
03:09:07.000 Mic check!
03:09:08.000 All pigs must die!
03:09:10.000 And they would start this fucking chant.
03:09:13.000 But they would yell out, mic check.
03:09:14.000 Like if someone needed to say something, they would yell out, mic check, mic check.
03:09:18.000 And everybody else would listen.
03:09:19.000 What is he going to say?
03:09:21.000 They're playing.
03:09:21.000 They're playing.
03:09:22.000 They're playing protester.
03:09:23.000 That's fun.
03:09:23.000 It's like a hip-hop concert.
03:09:24.000 We used to play Cowboys and Indians, but that's racist.
03:09:27.000 You can't do that anymore, so now they play protester.
03:09:29.000 Yeah.
03:09:30.000 I remember that Wall Street thing.
03:09:31.000 I went down there.
03:09:32.000 Half those kids are bankers now.
03:09:33.000 Did you know that?
03:09:33.000 No!
03:09:33.000 Half the kids that are protesting.
03:09:35.000 How do you like that?
03:09:36.000 Half of them.
03:09:36.000 50% of them.
03:09:37.000 No way!
03:09:37.000 I made that number up.
03:09:38.000 All right.
03:09:39.000 100% made it up.
03:09:40.000 But I wouldn't be surprised.
03:09:41.000 If someone told me those kids just gave up and now they drive Ferraris and they do a lot of coke, I'd be like, I knew it!
03:09:46.000 Yeah.
03:09:47.000 They just wanted to belong.
03:09:48.000 That was the interesting thing about the Aziz special when he said, who saw that thing in the post?
03:09:51.000 And the guy's like, oh, I saw it.
03:09:52.000 He goes, was it the post?
03:09:53.000 He goes, yeah, I think it was the post.
03:09:54.000 He goes, I made the whole thing up.
03:09:55.000 Did you see that in the Aziz special?
03:09:57.000 No.
03:09:57.000 That was the best part of the whole special was he just made up a scandal.
03:10:01.000 And he goes, how many people saw that?
03:10:02.000 And like, you know, half the hands go up.
03:10:04.000 And he's like, uh...
03:10:06.000 What paper was it in?
03:10:07.000 The guy was like, I think it was the post.
03:10:08.000 And he goes, well, I made it all up.
03:10:09.000 The guy looked like a complete idiot.
03:10:11.000 And it was a great moment because it just showed we're so scared of not being on the right side and not being around and aware that you just lie.
03:10:17.000 Right.
03:10:18.000 And now it's on Netflix forever.
03:10:19.000 Oh my god.
03:10:20.000 Yeah, it's fucking embarrassing.
03:10:21.000 That guy wants to sign the release.
03:10:23.000 He fucked up.
03:10:23.000 I guess so.
03:10:24.000 It's always shocking what people will sign.
03:10:26.000 You see cops or whatever and you're like, wow, somebody signed off on that.
03:10:29.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
03:10:30.000 Yeah, every episode.
03:10:32.000 Those people have to sign off.
03:10:33.000 Yeah, some lady's got a bag of crank and her hatchet wound, and she's like, yeah, I'll sign that.
03:10:38.000 Speaking of crank, do you remember Crank Yankers?
03:10:40.000 That was a great...
03:10:41.000 Is it coming back?
03:10:42.000 New season.
03:10:43.000 Jim Florentine is very happy.
03:10:45.000 Oh!
03:10:46.000 That show, they used to do it in Vegas.
03:10:49.000 So, because it was in Vegas, Vegas, you could record someone's phone calls if they don't know.
03:10:54.000 It's okay.
03:10:55.000 In California, everybody has to know.
03:10:57.000 You have to know.
03:10:57.000 I have to know.
03:10:58.000 I have to say...
03:10:59.000 Hey man, I'm going to record this call.
03:11:01.000 And you'd be like, okay, my name's Mark Norman.
03:11:03.000 Yeah.
03:11:03.000 And then we'd go ahead.
03:11:05.000 Right.
03:11:05.000 In Vegas, it doesn't matter.
03:11:06.000 They can just call you up.
03:11:08.000 No laws.
03:11:08.000 Well, it makes you wonder.
03:11:10.000 I just realized that show, no one answers the phone anymore.
03:11:12.000 No one talks on the phone.
03:11:14.000 How are you going to crank call somebody?
03:11:15.000 Right.
03:11:16.000 Robocalls.
03:11:16.000 Yeah, I think it's like customer service people and businesses and shit like that.
03:11:19.000 You can still get people to answer.
03:11:21.000 Older people will answer.
03:11:23.000 I'll answer occasionally.
03:11:24.000 All right.
03:11:24.000 Every now and then, I'm like, who's this fucking number?
03:11:26.000 Also, when did it go from prank to crank?
03:11:29.000 When I was a kid, it was prank.
03:11:30.000 When did that flip?
03:11:32.000 Yeah, well, I think, yeah, crank phone calls, though, when I was a kid.
03:11:35.000 Oh, okay.
03:11:36.000 When I was a kid, we used to call it crank phone calls.
03:11:38.000 Maybe it was, like, someone, right?
03:11:40.000 I think you'd do a prank, and you'd do a crank phone call.
03:11:43.000 Like, a prank is cold, and you'd crank call.
03:11:45.000 I wonder if that's from crank.
03:11:46.000 Like, the old phones, you had to spin that weird thing.
03:11:49.000 Oh, yeah.
03:11:49.000 Give that a goog, will you, J-Mo?
03:11:51.000 I wonder if that's an origin.
03:11:53.000 When I was a little boy, you'd have to do that thing with the dial.
03:11:56.000 Oh yeah, the rotary!
03:11:58.000 I remember when they invented push-button phones.
03:12:01.000 I thought it was magic.
03:12:02.000 Yeah, it saves so much time.
03:12:03.000 This is incredible.
03:12:04.000 So much time.
03:12:05.000 The rotary was like my grandfather's house.
03:12:07.000 I remember that.
03:12:07.000 That's how we used to make calls.
03:12:08.000 Took forever.
03:12:11.000 And if you got all the way to nine and you fucked up...
03:12:14.000 You had to hang up.
03:12:14.000 Oh my god, you had to start all over again.
03:12:16.000 It took so long to make a call.
03:12:18.000 My generation's version of that was T9 texting, remember?
03:12:21.000 Oh, yeah.
03:12:22.000 999-888-455-222, you know, and it took six weeks to tell somebody, hey, I love you.
03:12:29.000 Yeah, that was terrible.
03:12:31.000 But if they could do that, they have those little flip phones today that Nokia just released a bunch of them that have a few Google apps in them.
03:12:38.000 And I wonder if they just had voice-to-text.
03:12:41.000 If they just had voice-to-text, you might be able to get by just talking your text messages out.
03:12:46.000 I think they have that.
03:12:46.000 But on a flip phone?
03:12:47.000 Oh, no, no, no.
03:12:49.000 But they have a couple of Google apps.
03:12:51.000 I wonder if those flip phones have voice to text.
03:12:54.000 This is the internet.
03:12:54.000 I'm pretty sure that it connects to the internet.
03:12:58.000 If that phone doesn't connect to the internet by default, it's not.
03:13:01.000 You know what I mean?
03:13:02.000 Well, they have apps, though.
03:13:04.000 I think most of these phones, like even these ones that are flip phones, are probably 3G and 4G. And I'm not saying they don't connect.
03:13:11.000 I'm just saying by default they're not connected.
03:13:13.000 My iPhone, I'm pretty sure it's connected to the internet right now all the time because all the apps are running.
03:13:17.000 So when you're doing Siri and it's doing voice translation, it's connecting to an AI app that's translating your voice.
03:13:24.000 And if you're not, like with that flip phone, if it's not connected to the internet, you'd have to have all of that stored on the phone.
03:13:29.000 Now you have to have a big hard drive.
03:13:30.000 Right, but that's the difference between that and notes, because notes is doing it right from your phone.
03:13:36.000 You could have your phone on airplane mode, and you talk into the notes, and you could be on a plane, and you could say it, and it'll translate what you're saying.
03:13:46.000 Well, you don't want to say your bit on a plane.
03:13:49.000 No, you're not wrong.
03:13:50.000 You're right about Siri.
03:13:52.000 Siri doesn't work when you're not connected to the internet, but right here, we could do this.
03:13:57.000 We could go into notes.
03:13:59.000 I'll put my phone in airplane mode.
03:14:01.000 All right.
03:14:02.000 I'll shut off the Wi-Fi.
03:14:04.000 Maybe it's less accurate or something.
03:14:05.000 It's got to be.
03:14:07.000 I think Siri is actually doing a bunch of different shit, not just translating your text.
03:14:14.000 Whereas this is translating your text.
03:14:15.000 So if you're going to text message somebody, my point, they might be able to get that on a phone, have nothing to do with the internet, but you could just write a text out.
03:14:24.000 So I'm offline here.
03:14:25.000 Let's try it.
03:14:26.000 Mark Norman has been sucking cock secretly since he got here.
03:14:30.000 Bam!
03:14:30.000 It did it.
03:14:31.000 The whole thing?
03:14:32.000 Yeah.
03:14:32.000 Did it nail it?
03:14:33.000 Yeah, it nailed it.
03:14:33.000 Wow, maybe it's true.
03:14:34.000 It nailed it also with no internet.
03:14:38.000 So it's definitely not online.
03:14:40.000 Whoa!
03:14:40.000 See?
03:14:41.000 Airplane mode is off.
03:14:42.000 That's even scarier.
03:14:43.000 I mean, airplane mode is on, Wi-Fi is off.
03:14:44.000 That means they're listening to everything.
03:14:46.000 No.
03:14:46.000 It means your phone can translate text to speech.
03:14:49.000 Or speech to text.
03:14:51.000 So a flip phone, you could get by with a flip phone that does that.
03:14:55.000 Better than that T9 nonsense that Ari Shaffir has to use.
03:14:58.000 But again, just don't say your bits into your phone in public.
03:15:01.000 You know, be like, Nazi jizz sandwich, you know?
03:15:04.000 And that'll get you kicked out of a, you know, Southwest flight.
03:15:08.000 Yeah, if you were like sitting there waiting in line at a flight, like imagine if Nazi jizz was the most delicious shit on Earth.
03:15:14.000 There's something about really hating Jews.
03:15:15.000 It is the purest Jews.
03:15:17.000 It's the whitest.
03:15:18.000 You have to get them to really hate Jews, and you suck their cock right when they're in full seat pile.
03:15:24.000 And it's like the sweetest nectar.
03:15:27.000 Imagine if they found that out.
03:15:28.000 How the fuck did they find out that fish eggs were edible, that caviar is worth something?
03:15:32.000 All that shit's clams.
03:15:33.000 All that shit's crazy.
03:15:34.000 What were they looking for?
03:15:35.000 Even cheese.
03:15:36.000 Some guy had to eat old milk.
03:15:38.000 Yeah.
03:15:39.000 Oh my god, right?
03:15:40.000 Or a lemon.
03:15:40.000 You bite into a lemon, like, I'll keep this.
03:15:44.000 Well, what is that root, the cassava, that they eat in the Amazon?
03:15:48.000 There's this root that apparently it creates strychnine.
03:15:51.000 What?
03:15:51.000 Yeah, it's like one of the main staples of their diet, too.
03:15:55.000 And they have to soak it and process it in water.
03:15:58.000 How'd they learn that?
03:15:59.000 They leave that water around like little kids, and nobody ever fucks with the water because it's like full-on poison.
03:16:04.000 Yeah.
03:16:05.000 And they just have a bucket of it sitting around.
03:16:06.000 If you drank it, it'd kill you instantly.
03:16:08.000 Crazy.
03:16:09.000 It's strychnine water.
03:16:10.000 And they take that cassava root and they turn it into a bunch of different dishes.
03:16:14.000 Whoa!
03:16:15.000 It's this really nutty process where they have to boil this stuff for like hours and strain it.
03:16:21.000 My friend Steve Ranella was filming a show called Meat Eater on Netflix down there.
03:16:27.000 Oh yeah, seen that.
03:16:27.000 And he was watching them make this cassava shit.
03:16:31.000 And if you do it wrong, it kills you.
03:16:33.000 Yeah.
03:16:34.000 And it's the main thing in their diet.
03:16:35.000 Wow.
03:16:36.000 That's where tapioca comes from.
03:16:37.000 What?
03:16:38.000 Whoa!
03:16:38.000 Tapioca is a starch extracted from the cassava root through a process of washing and pulping.
03:16:42.000 What is tapioca?
03:16:44.000 Jesus.
03:16:45.000 Besides delicious?
03:16:46.000 It's a pudding, right?
03:16:47.000 What's better, tapioca or vanilla pudding?
03:16:50.000 Tapioca.
03:16:50.000 Why?
03:16:51.000 I don't know.
03:16:51.000 I don't know.
03:16:52.000 But it is.
03:16:53.000 Pudding's kind of gone away.
03:16:54.000 I love pudding.
03:16:55.000 I love chocolate pudding.
03:16:56.000 Oh, like a snack pack?
03:16:57.000 Remember those?
03:16:58.000 God, I could eat eight of those.
03:17:00.000 You know what the real pudding is, though, that people don't get anymore?
03:17:02.000 They don't get the pudding that you make, where you mix it and you make it on the stove.
03:17:06.000 It gets the skin on top.
03:17:08.000 I love that skin.
03:17:09.000 That's the black skin I like.
03:17:10.000 And then you crack into the skin.
03:17:11.000 You crack into the skin to get to the...
03:17:14.000 And then you put it in your bowl and it's warm when you eat it.
03:17:17.000 Yes.
03:17:17.000 Jell-O pudding?
03:17:19.000 Pudding.
03:17:19.000 Yeah.
03:17:20.000 Jell-O pudding.
03:17:21.000 You can have Jell-O pudding, but there's better companies.
03:17:23.000 I've never heard of one.
03:17:24.000 Well, Cosby.
03:17:25.000 There must be other companies.
03:17:27.000 Jell-O is the big one.
03:17:28.000 Do you avoid Jell-O pudding because of Cosby?
03:17:30.000 I mean, they're forever connected to him.
03:17:32.000 Yeah, but I think he's been out for a minute of Jell-O. Been out of the Jell-O business?
03:17:36.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:17:37.000 Remember, it was that little box.
03:17:38.000 It was so exciting.
03:17:39.000 Yes.
03:17:39.000 That box.
03:17:40.000 The powder.
03:17:40.000 You shake the powder.
03:17:41.000 You had the whisker.
03:17:42.000 Yes!
03:17:43.000 The blender, rather.
03:17:44.000 What is that thing called?
03:17:46.000 Electric one?
03:17:46.000 The whisk?
03:17:46.000 Yeah.
03:17:47.000 Yeah, or you could do it that way.
03:17:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:17:50.000 And you get all the stuff dissolved, all the powder dissolved.
03:17:53.000 Oh, yeah.
03:17:54.000 And then you slowly simmer it on the stove.
03:17:56.000 You'd always get mad if your sister was, like, turning up the heat too much.
03:17:59.000 You're turning up too much.
03:18:00.000 It's going to burn.
03:18:00.000 Fucking idiot.
03:18:01.000 You know what you're doing.
03:18:02.000 Jello instant pudding.
03:18:03.000 There it is.
03:18:03.000 Still out there.
03:18:04.000 Still going.
03:18:05.000 Yeah, see those packs when you open them up?
03:18:07.000 Not as good.
03:18:09.000 Right.
03:18:09.000 Not as good.
03:18:10.000 But I'll tell you what, it's goddamn delicious.
03:18:12.000 Jell-O pudding with, they have a sugar-free Jell-O pudding.
03:18:16.000 It sounds like no sugar in it at all.
03:18:18.000 And you could eat like a hundred of them.
03:18:20.000 I don't know.
03:18:21.000 It doesn't even feel like you ate anything.
03:18:22.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:18:23.000 How about that was big as a kid?
03:18:24.000 And Rice Krispie Treats, like the real ones in the pan?
03:18:27.000 Yes.
03:18:28.000 That was a big deal.
03:18:29.000 The real ones.
03:18:29.000 What is this?
03:18:31.000 What are they doing?
03:18:32.000 They're putting pudding on a steak?
03:18:33.000 Is that what you're saying?
03:18:34.000 Oh, interesting.
03:18:35.000 Is that what that is?
03:18:36.000 It says it's steak pudding.
03:18:37.000 Steak pudding.
03:18:38.000 What?
03:18:39.000 Maybe it's so tender.
03:18:41.000 Oh, yeah.
03:18:41.000 I think that's what I'm saying.
03:18:42.000 So they can make it into a pudding?
03:18:43.000 I don't know.
03:18:43.000 The preview is just them cutting steak real thin.
03:18:46.000 How to make chocolate pudding.
03:18:48.000 Look at these guys.
03:18:49.000 Whoa.
03:18:49.000 Oh, my God.
03:18:50.000 This used to be like an afternoon.
03:18:52.000 Like, you would do this.
03:18:53.000 Now you just go buy it.
03:18:54.000 What the hell?
03:18:55.000 That looks amazing.
03:18:56.000 Oh, this is a different thing.
03:18:57.000 This is like steak in some sort of...
03:18:59.000 1788. Look, they dress like old-timey people.
03:19:03.000 What's those brothers that made those videos?
03:19:06.000 Friars?
03:19:07.000 The songs?
03:19:08.000 Those brothers, they all wore the clothes from the 1800s and they drank out of mason jars.
03:19:14.000 Who are those guys?
03:19:17.000 It's not the Abbott brothers.
03:19:19.000 No, no, no.
03:19:20.000 God damn it.
03:19:22.000 I want to say the Brunson brother.
03:19:24.000 That's not it either.
03:19:25.000 No, no.
03:19:25.000 You know what I'm talking about?
03:19:26.000 No, no idea.
03:19:28.000 Let's leave this podcast with everybody in suspense.
03:19:30.000 You're never going to find that.
03:19:32.000 Someone's going to tweet you.
03:19:33.000 I had it in my head yesterday because I was just thinking of that moment.
03:19:36.000 From Wayans Brothers?
03:19:36.000 I saw the other being like, I'm monsters and mice.
03:19:39.000 Oh, the singers!
03:19:41.000 Yes, yes, yes.
03:19:42.000 Yeah, Avid.
03:19:43.000 No, Mumford& Sons.
03:19:44.000 Mumford& Sons, yes.
03:19:45.000 What?
03:19:45.000 You got the brothers in there.
03:19:47.000 He's throwing me off.
03:19:47.000 I fucked that up.
03:19:49.000 Ah, Sons.
03:19:51.000 Who are the Sons and who's Mumford?
03:19:53.000 How's that work?
03:19:53.000 That's a good question.
03:19:55.000 That's exactly how they dress.
03:19:57.000 Is that right?
03:19:58.000 No.
03:19:59.000 Oh, what do I know?
03:20:00.000 But they dress old-timey.
03:20:02.000 Are they still around?
03:20:04.000 Oh, those guys were great.
03:20:05.000 I saw them live once.
03:20:06.000 They were killer.
03:20:07.000 Yeah, great music.
03:20:08.000 But they dress real old-timey.
03:20:10.000 Did they update?
03:20:11.000 Yeah, they kind of lost it a little bit.
03:20:15.000 But didn't they have videos where they dress like they're from the 1800s?
03:20:18.000 Yeah, they did an old train tour.
03:20:18.000 Oh, there you go.
03:20:20.000 Somebody forced them into that.
03:20:22.000 Guaranteed there's a marketing guy behind that.
03:20:24.000 I don't know.
03:20:25.000 I need you.
03:20:25.000 I need you.
03:20:26.000 I need you in these vests.
03:20:29.000 Yeah.
03:20:30.000 What's that sound?
03:20:31.000 No one is wearing vests.
03:20:34.000 I hate a vest.
03:20:34.000 You guys can be the vest guys.
03:20:36.000 I'm telling you.
03:20:37.000 There's not a lot of outfits to wear when you have a banjo and a stand-up bass.
03:20:41.000 That's true.
03:20:42.000 Banjo is a whole accessory in its own.
03:20:43.000 Yeah, you can dress like that.
03:20:44.000 Now they're dressed like cool guys.
03:20:46.000 Those guys might as well be the Black Keys.
03:20:48.000 Those guys are killer.
03:20:49.000 They cook.
03:20:51.000 Jordan Peterson posts photos with Mumford and Sons.
03:20:55.000 Well, they're both doing Oxycontin.
03:21:01.000 Mark Norman, it's almost four hours in.
03:21:03.000 No!
03:21:05.000 Oh, shit.
03:21:05.000 Three hours and, like, what, 40 minutes or something?
03:21:08.000 Oh, shit.
03:21:09.000 How did that happen?
03:21:10.000 We had a good time, buddy.
03:21:11.000 Listen to my podcast, for Christ's sake.
03:21:12.000 Yeah, tell people how to get to it.
03:21:14.000 iTunes, the whole jizz.
03:21:15.000 You know how it goes.
03:21:16.000 The internet.
03:21:17.000 Tuesdays with stories.
03:21:18.000 Me and Joe list.
03:21:19.000 And, yeah, I'm on the road.
03:21:21.000 MarkNormanComedy.com.
03:21:22.000 Follow me on Twitter and yell at me and the whole thing.
03:21:24.000 And he's going to be with me tonight at the improv for two shows.
03:21:26.000 Yay!
03:21:27.000 I was so excited you texted.
03:21:28.000 Yes, Owen Smith and Ally Mikofsky.
03:21:31.000 So we'll see you freaks there.
03:21:32.000 Praise Allah.
03:21:33.000 Bye, everybody.
03:21:34.000 Big kiss.
03:21:38.000 That was great, man.