On this episode of Into the Fire and Beyond the Call of Duty, I sit down with Jocko and talk about his experience with a fellow warrior, Tim Kennedy. We talk about how important it is to have a support network around you, and what it means to be surrounded by people who are willing to do whatever it takes to be there for you. I hope you enjoy this episode, and I can't wait for you to listen to it again! -Dakota (Jocko Podcast 115) - Into The Fire & Beyond The Call Of Duty (Into The Fire) - Tim Kennedy (Tim Kennedy's Podcast) - Beyond the call of duty (Intro the Call OF Duty) - Iron sharpens iron (Iron Sharpens Iron) - I m surrounded by a group of guys who are better than average, and you have no option but to support them. I m so lucky to have them in my life. Thank you to everyone who has been a part of my life, and thank you for all the support you all have shown me throughout the years. I can t wait to do it again and more! - Dakota and Tim Kennedy - Thank you for being there for all your support. I appreciate you guys! -Tee heeee. -J.D. (Tee Heeee Hee Heee Hee- Heee- Hee heee- Thank you! -P.S. -D.E. (Dakotah) J.J. & J.Dakos Podcast - Into the fire! -JK - Beyond The call of Duty :D - J.V. . - - JK , JK - JJK . . . J.P. , JK, J.K, and J.R. & JK . .J.B. - JB . JK (J.K. :J.V with J.A. (JK) - JX, JB. J.O. JK & JJ. JJJJ.JK, I hope that you enjoy the podcast, JK is a good friend of mine, JB, and JK? I love you JK. JB - JHJ, JJB, JEJJ - JEK
00:00:08.000I feel super connected to you, man, because all day I've been listening to you on Jocko's podcast.
00:00:14.000First of all, anybody who really wants to know you in depth, in your element, talking with a fellow warrior, I strongly recommend that podcast.
00:01:38.000I think he knew the questions to ask because I think it was good for both of us.
00:01:42.000Because, you know, if you got to the point kind of in the middle of it, if you start hearing those silences, it was both of us trying to keep from tears falling, right?
00:01:51.000It was like that moment you're trying to...
00:01:53.000We really connected and it was a tough podcast.
00:01:58.000Well, you could tell because for Jocko, I mean, I listen to a lot of Jocko's podcasts, but that was one where he was really in his element.
00:02:05.000First of all, it's very obvious he has a deep respect for you and who you are and what you stand for.
00:02:10.000And then two, it brought him back to his own experiences and more.
00:02:13.000And so the whole thing is just, it's one of the most intense podcasts I've ever listened to, if not the most intense.
00:02:42.000I mean, you know, he does what he says, and he lives it, and he puts people first, and he's just, I mean, he's one of the greatest guys I've ever met.
00:03:16.000When you're surrounded by guys like Jocko and Tim Kennedy, you have no option.
00:03:22.000Even if you're last in that group, you're still above average.
00:03:28.000Well, there's a cliche, you know, that comes up when people talk about military, you know, that, you know, people will say things and sometimes it's hard to understand whether or not they grasp exactly what they're saying, but that people make sacrifices so that you could be free.
00:03:45.000It's hard to truly internalize that without having experienced what you've experienced, what Jocko and Tim Kennedy have experienced.
00:03:52.000When I'm listening to it, I know that it's correct.
00:04:32.000And most people who talk about war will have this peripheral, sort of cursory understanding about what they would like the world to be like.
00:04:40.000You know, that they would like no war, and that, oh, this is terrible, we shouldn't be over there.
00:04:44.000They don't truly understand what you understand.
00:04:48.000And I think, you know, the perspective that I get to come back, and I think all these guys telling their stories, you know, from Rob O'Neill to Marks Latrell, like, I think every warrior out there has to tell their story To make people understand, right?
00:05:02.000Like, it's so important for that because we've got a perspective of the world that a lot of people don't get.
00:05:07.000And, you know, I mean, I stood next to people that we couldn't, like, you talk about not believing, not being raised, not coming from the same place, not having, you know, we could have found every reason not to be on the same ground,
00:05:23.000but we stood next to each other and were willing to die for each other.
00:05:27.000We found, we chose to find the common denominator.
00:05:29.000And that was because there's only two types of people in this world.
00:06:35.000Actually, the cover of my book, it was that day.
00:06:37.000We were sitting on that mountain because we had chased some Taliban up that hill.
00:06:43.000And we were sitting up there, and this afghan looked at me and he just said, I hope that someday you can bring your family here on vacation.
00:06:50.000I hope that we can get it to that point.
00:07:01.000We all just want to live a great life, and we all just want to get along.
00:07:04.000I mean, if you don't get along, it's because you choose not to get along.
00:07:07.000For people who don't understand the conflict in Afghanistan, explain what is happening and why we're over there.
00:07:14.000Yeah, so, you know, basically Afghanistan, and it was the same thing in Iraq, too.
00:07:18.000I mean, you know, that's where these terrorist organizations were, right?
00:07:21.000And, you know, we're over there fighting alongside Afghanistan.
00:07:24.000We're over there fighting alongside Iraq.
00:07:26.000We're not fighting Iraq and fighting Afghanistan.
00:07:28.000We're fighting alongside both of those countries and trying to rebuild it up and trying to get rid of these terrorist cells that are inside those countries, you know?
00:07:38.000Like you said, I mean, everybody thinks that, you know, we're fighting Iraq and we're fighting Afghanistan, and it's not the case.
00:07:43.000We're alongside them, helping them rebuild their countries.
00:07:46.000You know, when you go to Black Rifle Coffee in Salt Lake, you know, those guys are awesome.
00:08:20.000They just don't want war, but it's like, you know, I mean, there's no way.
00:08:25.000I mean, you can go in your house and lock your doors and sit there and try to pretend that the evil that we fight doesn't exist, but it exists.
00:08:57.000In comparison to the rest of the world, a It's very rare that you have a place where you really can start at the bottom and make your way up to be a successful person.
00:09:09.000I mean literally you can start here and come from nothing and within your generation be the President of the United States.
00:09:37.000It's gonna be draining right and everybody's getting so emotional and fired up and yeah, and it's like, you know, like it's gonna be whatever But the cool part is is that this country like from all of us in the military from all our first responders our police officers You know,
00:09:52.000we're the only country on the face of the planet that doesn't swear allegiance to a person We swear allegiance to a document to a piece of paper and And that's what allows us to be us.
00:10:03.000That's what allows us to not have one person come in and be able to change up this idea that we have of democracy, of freedom.
00:10:41.000And I think ultimately that's going to prove to be good for everybody because those people that are Highlighting all these bad things, then everybody else has to think about it, and we'll slowly but surely evolve and come to an understanding and make the world a better place.
00:10:55.000It's a way better place now than it was 100 years ago or 200 years ago, and I think this is a – I mean, Steven Pinker talks about this all the time in his books, and he's criticized for it because a lot of people don't like the idea that things are getting better.
00:11:07.000They want to I think the most important focal point if we want to have a good world is concentrate on the good aspects and how amazing it really is that we have this incredible ability to express ourselves,
00:11:40.000And this is one of the rare places in the world where you can, if you're so inclined, if you have the discipline, if you can figure it out emotionally, if you can figure it out in terms of what you want to do in your life, you can live a healthy and successful life in this country.
00:13:24.000You know, I think that what's not put out there is, you know, I hear kids talking about, hey, you know, did you use this or did you use this or did, you know, you hear people say, well, did you kill somebody, right?
00:14:05.000Like, the more desensitized, and then you start, you know, the more the movies go, and the more, I mean, you know, I think that, like, we've just, like, we've pushed ourselves away from, you know, from being empathetic to, hey, these are real people.
00:14:39.000The old art that I was always told to live by is treat someone as you'd want to be treated yourself.
00:14:46.000And if you were in those shoes, and every time I pass somebody, every time I see somebody suffering, I always look at that and be like, well, what would I want somebody to do if they see my daughter suffering?
00:14:58.000I mean, look at all these times that I see these people holding their video cameras up in their video and somebody, like, getting just beat.
00:15:06.000And it's like, how do you do that and not help?
00:15:08.000How does that not just suck everything out of you to not want to do something?
00:15:12.000Yeah, there's a thing called diffusion of responsibility that happens to people in crowds, unfortunately.
00:15:18.000And it's also the same thing that I think when you're filming something that's happening in real life is the same thing that you've seen in these video games and on television shows.
00:15:26.000I mean, we have never had more violence in film form and in video game form ever.
00:21:45.000When people find out about it now, they freak out.
00:21:47.000Yeah, I wouldn't even post anything on my Instagram of hunting because PETA would just, like, people would just tell you, like, oh, we should hunt you.
00:21:56.000We should shoot you with a bow and arrow.
00:21:58.000I mean, you know, but they can go watch people get killed.
00:22:34.000Everybody's got their own, it's interesting, like their own thing that gives them a sense of purpose that makes them feel like they're doing something that makes a difference and makes a change.
00:24:19.000Even when I drink, it's from corn, right?
00:24:21.000Anthony Bourdain used to get really angry about this.
00:24:23.000And one of the things that he said was, this is a first world problem.
00:24:26.000He's like, we are so fortunate that we have this problem.
00:24:30.000And in other countries, they're just trying to get enough protein to feed their family.
00:24:33.000They're just trying to get enough food to feed people.
00:24:36.000You know, and he was, it wasn't like he was indifferent to animals, but he was deeply concerned about people.
00:24:43.000You know, because of all his traveling, he had like a great deal of empathy for all these different people in these different cultures and their cuisine, and he had a tremendous amount of respect for it.
00:24:52.000Like, he would talk about it like it was religious to him almost, you know?
00:24:55.000Yeah, like, you know, when we would go into villages and eat, I mean, if they had meat, like, that was a big deal.
00:25:01.000Like, if they brought meat out to you, then they, you know, that was a huge deal.
00:25:48.000When you're working or you're at a job or you own a company, you're always just fixing, I call it putting out fires.
00:25:56.000And if that's all you do is constantly put out fires, at what point do you become grateful?
00:26:00.000At what point of the day do people stop and look around and they're grateful for what they have and they're appreciative of...
00:26:09.000I had a guy tell me, when I was going through my divorce, I was a train wreck.
00:26:13.000Just call Tim Kennedy and he'll tell you.
00:26:17.000You know, I'll never forget a guy sat me down.
00:26:19.000I was talking about all these problems and just nitpicking and fighting over the small stuff.
00:26:24.000And I mean, literally just, well, she worded it this way and she needs to do it this way.
00:26:28.000Like literally just every little thing.
00:26:30.000And a guy finally sat me down and he looked at me and he goes, look, Dakota, he said, if you can make choices or decisions to change it, Then it's not a problem.
00:26:39.000The day that you can't make a choice, you've got cancer, your kid's sick, or something like that, he goes, that's the day you've got problems.
00:26:46.000Until then, you've just got inconveniences.
00:27:28.000And at the point, we get so focused and get into autopilot And it'll focus on, you know, it's kind of like your camera.
00:27:35.000You pull it up and you got it on autofocus.
00:27:37.000It never focuses on what you want it focused on, right?
00:27:39.000Until you go back to the manual focus and you push where it's at.
00:27:42.000And I feel like all these problems that we have are just made to, hey, we need to tighten our lens back up to focus on what really, really, really matters.
00:29:12.000I think every day it goes by, I think there's a reckoning of it.
00:29:15.000The way that I've seen it that day is not the way I see it today.
00:29:19.000And, um, I think that comes with, you know, just, just sharpening and just your body, you know, you change and you, you see different things in perspective, but yeah, I mean, you know, I, I, I, you know, that day, I mean, it's still, I mean,
00:29:35.000it's still, it's just, you know, just, it's just, there's so many lessons that come from that day that, that, you know, I look at people complaining about stuff here in America and it's like, I've seen him one day, the best of humans, the worst of humans, and nobody thought they were wrong.
00:30:17.000Like, I... Like, I just want to go fight.
00:30:20.000Like, you know, but every fight I had before that, it was like, you know, I always had airplanes sitting, you know, or helicopters sitting around.
00:30:27.000I always had, you know, it was like, I'm going to go in there and start the fight and then I'm going to call in all this other stuff to win, right?
00:30:35.000And that day it wasn't there and literally I walked out of there and I just think about all the time today, I just think about all the time of how many generations just that day were changed.
00:30:51.000How many generations of people's lives were changed.
00:30:57.000You know, all my teammates died, so they'll never have kids.
00:32:05.000I always remember just like I remember it like I see it every night like I remember like I just see his face and I got just because there was a point There's a point that I feel like that anybody that when they whether they're injured or Anything like they realize they're defeated like they like it like I don't know I just think there's a point when you look at somebody and they know they're gonna die and I'll never forget that and I you know now I look at it and I see it and I always think that like This
00:33:42.000He had a weapon, and I ended up shooting him from the ground.
00:33:45.000I thought he was dead when he fell on the ground and I kind of moved down and got down with Dada Lee because we I was still getting shot at from this machine gun up on this hill and I was trying to make myself small as I could and This guy ends up coming up and choking me like I thought he was I thought he was dead and he ends up choking me out he starts trying to choke me out and Eventually let up a little bit and I end up getting around him and I just got we were fighting back and forth and I can remember all I was thinking about was like don't let his legs get on me
00:34:16.000like you know these guys their legs are I mean they've been crawling up mountains her whole life and he was a he was a pretty big dude and I I just remember getting on top of him finally got on top of him and I was rolling on top of him he didn't have all the gear on I did and I remember getting on top of him like I was straddling him and I'm just reaching up trying to grab for anything I can and I'm holding him and holding him down with my forearm and I'm just grabbing anything I can and finally I ended up grabbing a rock and I just
00:34:46.000started beating this dude's face in and I started beating and beating and beating and I remember just like Finally like after hitting him, you know, I don't know three or four times four or five times whatever I Remember him like finally just kind of looking at me and like just it's it's like he's like just I'm just looking him in the eyes like obviously closer than me to you right now and You just see all the you can tell like he knows where this is going And I always think about that,
00:35:17.000Like, I don't feel bad about that part of it.
00:35:19.000But I just think about, like, in that moment, if I can find a way to relate to him in that moment, a man I'm taking his life, we all in America can find a way to connect with each other.
00:35:34.000If we don't connect with each other, it's because we choose not to.
00:35:38.000I don't care what your differences are.
00:35:41.000Like, don't, like, find a reason of why we can get along, not why we should not get along.
00:35:46.000And I always think about that moment, you know, of this guy and, you know, he obviously ended up dying.
00:35:53.000And what it showed me was, is that no cause that you have that's built on hate will survive.
00:36:04.000But I was willing to take his life because of what I loved.
00:36:11.000And that's what we have to build our lives and our foundation on, is not being angry and hating each other, but because we love the cause that we believe in so much.
00:38:34.000Everybody would get on the same page and start fighting if anybody tried to come to America because nobody would want to give up their stuff.
00:39:52.000All these differences go away, but we come back to what matters.
00:39:56.000Well, that's something that a lot of people who experience war...
00:39:59.000have said that this is where they felt the most connected because their life was literally in danger and because they knew because they had lost loved ones to this thing they had lost brothers to this thing that this was real and that to this day that is the most exciting and happiest time of their life because they were so connected Sebastian Junger wrote about this in a movie book Tribe yeah have you read it?
00:40:24.000It's very good and it probably would speak to a lot of the exact same things that you say But you know, I find the same thing, not the same thing, obviously, because my life's not in danger.
00:40:37.000And I hope that I never have to go a day where my life's in danger again.
00:40:40.000And I find the same appreciation back here in a country that...
00:40:49.000You know, I narrowed it down because I had to come up with a reason of, like, why, you know...
00:40:53.000I mean, it's hard to sit here and watch the valleys that you fought for and then the government go and give those valleys back to the Taliban, you know?
00:40:59.000There's this one video me and my buddy were laughing about the other day.
00:41:04.000A base that he had been on and he shows me this video and it's, like, literally the treadmills that were in the gym there.
00:41:10.000It's a Taliban guy running on our treadmills, right?
00:42:05.000I justify it as all we tried to do, no matter whether we were passing out soccer balls to kids, or we were going in and providing security for a whale, or we were taking out an enemy combatant, all we were trying to do was make that part of the world that we were in a better place.
00:42:21.000We're trying to leave it better than we found it that moment.
00:42:25.000And if we take that same concept and we apply it here, And we all go over and do it for the person on the left and the right of us.
00:42:33.000And if we use that same concept, you can apply it here in America every day.
00:42:39.000Every single day, you can make this world just a little bit better.
00:42:44.000There's a lot of people in this country that don't think we should be nation-building in other countries.
00:42:50.000Including people like Tulsi Gabbard, who served, but then you got people like Dan Crenshaw, who I've had on the podcast, who, his perspective is, you have to go over there.
00:43:03.000Like, you can't allow these groups to get more powerful and gain more control.
00:43:20.000And you can notice when America's strong, everybody hates us.
00:43:29.000When America's weak, the world suffers.
00:43:32.000And I'm not saying we need to go in and fight everybody's battle, obviously, right?
00:43:37.000But on the backside of it, you know, we're not necessarily going in and fighting for other countries, but we do have an obligation to go and help People.
00:43:48.000Like you take Syria when they are gassing.
00:43:58.000If nobody else is going to go send rockets in there, if nobody else is going to go hold somebody accountable for it, there's nobody that's serving, that's wearing the uniform, that's not gladly gassing.
00:44:09.000Doing that and gonna go hold them accountable for it has nothing to do with anything other than good and evil and If we don't go fight the evil then who's gonna do it?
00:44:23.000And we don't want the evil to get bigger You don't want the evil to get bigger You don't want the evil to to to progress and you don't want the evil to to think that they can I mean imagine you see what they're doing right now and and I think the world knows that that America will come and show up and And you see how they're still going.
00:44:40.000Imagine if they didn't have to worry about us doing it.
00:45:02.000You know, and you can have all these opinions about what we should be doing, you know, and that we need to stop these warmongers, we need to stop this and stop that.
00:45:12.000And I've had those opinions myself in the past and gone back and forth.
00:45:17.000And the only thing that's changed my mind is I listen to people that actually know.
00:45:22.000I think it's one of the most important things you could ever do.
00:45:24.000And don't try to form an opinion if you don't really have any facts or any real understanding.
00:45:38.000Thousands of people died and none of them volunteered.
00:45:42.000To give their country for their life that day, except obviously the first responders.
00:45:47.000You look since 9-11, besides a couple attacks that's been in America, but you look since 9-11, everybody that's given their life overseas has volunteered to do that.
00:45:59.000They volunteered to go fight the evil.
00:46:03.000And for us to go over there and do that and keep it off the country, to keep it out of our country, to keep it to where our kids and our families and our mothers and fathers don't have to worry about this.
00:46:16.000I mean, obviously it could happen anywhere, but I can't think that us being over there and giving them a place to fight us Has not helped this country keep from being attacked multiple times if we had not gone over there.
00:46:33.000That's a hard pill for people to swallow, right?
00:47:31.000Throwing people because of their sexual preference off the top, tying their hands and legs together and throwing them off the top of a building?
00:47:40.000These are the type of people that, this is the type of evil that we're going after.
00:47:47.000And if we don't do it, who's going to do it?
00:48:39.000It's hard for people to swallow, right?
00:48:40.000Because people want to think that the reason why it'll never be resolved is because the military-industrial complex wants to keep us at war and this is just a big money grab and that's all they're trying to do is the reason why they have us over there is they're sending people over there to die so they can make money.
00:48:55.000This is how people love to look at it.
00:48:59.000I think it's just because everybody wants to find a reason.
00:49:03.000Everybody wants a reason that they can touch, feel, and blame.
00:49:26.000We're just so lucky that we have an all-volunteer military with some of the greatest people that's ever walked the face of the planet who are willing to go do this.
00:49:34.000Who are willing to do it on mining your behalf.
00:53:23.000It's the first time, you know, I always, like, I'm always nervous.
00:53:25.000Like, if in the middle of the night my daughter gets scared or she, you know, she comes down and gets in my bed, like, I'm always really, like, nervous about that because, like, I don't, I would, like, I was so nervous about it because I was just, gosh, I never want them to see me in that state,
00:56:03.000Before the needle came out of my neck, Dr. Sean Mulvaney is the guy that's putting all this together.
00:56:09.000When the needle came out of my neck, it instantly took me from being like my whole life was downtown New York City in rush hour traffic, 15 minutes late to a meeting that my life depended on, to instantly being driving down a quiet country road with nowhere to be.
00:56:28.000So basically what it does is, this is how it was described to me, and you have like two systems.
00:56:34.000You have like your automatic nervous system and then you have your manual, right?
00:56:38.000So your automatic is like your eyes blinking, breathing, things like that.
00:56:43.000Your manual is like, hey, I need to reach over here and grab this bottle of water.
00:56:46.000And what happens is, is fight or flight gets stuck in your automated, like there's no longer do you say, I recognize this as a threat and now I go into fight or flight.
00:56:55.000So what it does is you've been in that so long that it gets put over into the automatic side.
00:57:01.000And so what this does is it's kind of like a restart.
00:57:05.000There's nothing that lasts long in it.
00:57:07.000It goes in and it basically, I think it gets on, it's called the sciatic nerve, and it basically gives you a restart.
00:57:25.000So it comes down to, I mean, sometimes I get one a year, one every six months, but it just comes down to, do you go back and expose yourself to these chaotic situations, right?
00:57:37.000Like, do you go keep making bad decisions?
00:57:40.000But for me, I look at it as a solution to...
00:57:46.000So it's that flashbang that gives you the moment, the separation, to where now I can make decisions that I don't feel like I'm out of control.
00:57:53.000Now I can make decisions to get things back together.
00:57:57.000What is the actual chemical that they're using?
00:58:15.000Post-traumatic stress disorder develops in response to being exposed to extreme stress.
00:58:20.000The sympathetic nervous system, fight or flight, has been known to play a part in PTSD. It's believed that extra nerves of the system sprout or grow after extreme trauma.
00:58:30.000Leading to elevated levels of Norepinephrine, an adrenaline-like substance which in turn over activates the amygdala, the fear center of the brain.
00:58:40.000This chain of events results in PTSD symptoms that may persist for years.
00:58:46.000So, part of the sympathetic nervous system called the stellate ganglion, a collective of nerves in the neck, seems to control the activation of the amygdala.
00:58:54.000A recent innovation offers potential in rapidly treating symptoms of PTSD for a prolonged period of time, placing an anesthetic agent on the stellate ganglion in an anesthetic procedure called the stellate ganglion block.
01:02:51.000No, I think it just in my subconscious, I think, you know, obviously your brain is always trying to Like when you're asleep trying to file things and process things and I think that's what happens is like consciously you know You know consciously it doesn't bother me to talk about it Like yeah,
01:03:08.000I went back and I was in another gunfight four days later and I mean literally I was Packing up all my teammates stuff and getting ready to go back to fight again and I got into another gunfight and I think that,
01:03:24.000you know, coming home, your brain's still trying to process all that stuff.
01:03:39.000I think that's what people are dealing with, and it's just...
01:03:42.000I think that's why you see so much anxiety across the world is because of all this desensitization consciously and people are processing it subconsciously.
01:03:56.000That really makes sense, that they're taking in all this information.
01:03:59.000They think it's not affecting them at all, but it really is.
01:04:02.000It is, and I think that's why you see all these people feeling like their lives are out of control.
01:04:06.000And it's because, consciously, like, we're not sitting here talking about it.
01:04:10.000Like, well, yeah, yeah, you know, I seen a car wreck the other day, or, you know, so-and-so died, or, you know what I mean?
01:04:15.000And it's like, they're not ever processing it consciously, but their body will, like, your body will, I always say, you can either exorcise your demons, or they're going to exorcise you.
01:04:26.000What do they recommend when you, I mean, do they check on you to see if you are having anxiety or do you have to come to them and explain it?
01:04:37.000Yeah, I mean, you just, you go to them.
01:04:39.000Does anybody get through it without anxiety?
01:04:42.000I mean, I, like, I would worry about the people that got through it without it.
01:05:00.000But me, you know, I used to drink a lot, but I was doing it not because I was an alcoholic.
01:05:08.000I was doing it as a, I just, I had rather, I could regulate my drinking better than I could the effects of what medicine would do to me.
01:05:16.000Now, do the Marines have a system that they, will they check on you and make sure you're okay or guide you into a specific type of treatment when they know there's something wrong?
01:05:26.000Yeah, yeah, but you know the problem is for all these war fighters is like they don't want to go talk about it or tell the Marine Corps because then they're, you know, or the military, I'll just say military-wide, you know, they look at you as, well, now this person can't operate.
01:05:43.000Everybody's too worried to talk about this because they're afraid of not being able to do their job because they're afraid that somebody will look at them and say, oh, well, you got PTSD, so you don't need a gun.
01:05:53.000And it's like, you know, Most people that have PTSD are car wreck victims.
01:07:18.000I've gotta do something because my daughters, they deserve the best father possible.
01:07:23.000They had no choice in coming in this world.
01:07:27.000I might not want to deal with it and face it for myself, but they deserve for me to wake up every single day and give them the best father that they could possibly have.
01:12:19.000Unless you're testing things on a regular basis, you might be selling something.
01:12:25.000I had a guy named John Norris who wrote a book called The Hidden War, and the book is all about how he was a game warden, and during his normal dunies, like making sure that people aren't overfishing or hunting without a license, that kind of stuff,
01:12:41.000they started finding these cartel grow-ops.
01:12:43.000And these cartel grow-ops are extremely—the weed that they're putting out is extremely dangerous because it's got these super-toxic pesticides to keep animals away and to keep bugs away.
01:12:53.000And so they're putting this shit on weed, then that stuff winds up getting to the hands of people, particularly in other parts of the country where it's illegal, and it's just filled with pesticides.
01:13:03.000And, you know, you can get sick from that stuff, and people can get real sick from it.
01:13:39.000Investigators at the California Department of Consumer Affairs served a search warrant Thursday, October the 3rd in a light industrial space, Northwest Los Angeles Canoga Park District.
01:13:50.000They found an illegal cannabis product manufacturing operation apparently operated by Cushy Punch.
01:13:56.000A legal state licensed company, authorities seized a number of finished products including gummies in the Cushy Punch packaging and disposable vaporizers in Cushy vape packaging.
01:14:07.000In photos obtained by Leafly, the facility appeared to be performing Petrosolvent extractions where a technician concentrates the active ingredients in cannabis, THC. Petrosolvent extracting is legal with a permit in California.
01:14:22.000The extraction method can sometimes have the effect of concentrating pesticides along with the THC. But it says it's legal.
01:14:46.000San Fernando Valley facility appeared to be in the business of putting those extracts into professional-looking THC foods as well as disposable vape pen cartridges.
01:14:56.000Tall file cabinets held, thousands of boxes of cushy vape pens and cushy punch edibles.
01:15:00.000I don't understand this because it says if it's legal, a source familiar with cushy punch accused the adult use licensee of maintaining two facilities, one licensed and one black market.
01:16:54.000The problem is, that was a different part of the episode.
01:16:56.000The B story was that Cartman called Ice on his friends because he just, like, he found out that you could just call Ice and, like, have people suspected.
01:17:09.000So he called it on Kyle and had Kyle fucking arrested and his whole family arrested.
01:24:14.000I lit a Honda CRX. And it was like right there in the middle of the seats, like the phone.
01:24:20.000But it helped me because I used to get gigs because like booking agents, like if someone couldn't make a gig or somebody fell out or got sick, they would call me.
01:25:02.000But then what happened was some people got pagers that could send text messages.
01:25:07.000I was going to say, at first they expanded it to you could get sports updates.
01:25:11.000Everyone needed to get sports scores all day long.
01:25:13.000They paid an extra five bucks a month.
01:25:15.000But I remember I was at the Comedy Store in the back kitchen area, and one of the people that worked there had a page, maybe it was a comic, I don't remember, but they had a pager with a keyboard.
01:29:02.000But I mean, the emotional pain that people cause anytime they want, where they could just reach out and say something terrible to people, especially people doing it through anonymous accounts.
01:29:16.000The people that you're judging, the people that you're criticizing their lives, that the media chooses to put out there, they're real people going through real problems too.
01:29:27.000Do you think that you have, and this is going to be a crazy question, but do you think that you have more of an appreciation for life because you've taken life?
01:29:40.000I think that I have more appreciation for people in life because I have seen what suffering looks like.
01:31:44.000And so she talks about, you know, on your tombstone, you have the day you were born and the day you die, which are two of the most insignificant days of your life.
01:31:54.000They're both the only two days in your life that aren't 24 hours.
01:31:58.000But what matters is that dash in between.
01:31:59.000And you don't have control of the day you're born or the day you die, but you have control of what that dash looks like and how you made people feel and how they're going to remember you the day that you're gone.
01:32:20.000Wake up every day and put it all on the table and put it into making people's lives better.
01:32:27.000And so I'm launching this site to where it's like it's helping people, empowering people to owning their dash, to being okay with being the best them.
01:32:40.000I think people want to be the best of them.
01:34:12.000You know, so I do that, and then also, you know, we just, I was telling you earlier, you know, we just launched, you know, Discipline Go with Jocko, right?
01:34:20.000I've got a signature flavor coming out called Dak Savage.
01:39:51.000I mean, anybody who has the world record for the longest flight suit in one of them flying squirrel fucking suits, that guy's out of his fucking mind.
01:40:01.000But he doesn't do the flying squirrel suit anymore.
01:41:21.000I mean, there was one that we played on this podcast that's horrendous where a guy was trying to bridge the gap through the Golden Gate Bridge and he slams into the bridge while these people are watching.
01:43:57.000I mean, it also, whenever I, you know, if I go to Dallas or Houston, it's a difference in me getting home that day versus me staying another night and not being able to wake up, you know.
01:44:16.000I've flown them in them when you do the tour of the volcanoes.
01:44:20.000And then recently, my friend Bill Burr, he's gotten really into flying helicopters, and he took me up, and we flew around downtown LA. It was crazy.
01:44:29.000We went around Malibu after the fires, too.
01:46:03.000For people who don't know, it's really actually a necessary evil because these wild pigs in Texas in particular, they've overrun the state.
01:46:59.000Pigs, they're destructive and they're terrible and they're terrible for the ranches and they're terrible for these farms, but they're damn delicious.
01:47:49.000And then I think it only takes them, like, I don't know how it is, but usually after they have their litter, they're pregnant the next day.
01:49:03.000They get about as far south as Bakersfield, the Bakersfield area, but eventually they're probably going to make their way to the San Fernando Valley.
01:51:06.000Back when people didn't really have the same information that they have today.
01:51:10.000Like, now today, people can understand, like, oh, conservation is actually very important.
01:51:15.000And it's important to remove certain numbers of the population of these animals.
01:51:19.000And also, the money that you spend on these tags and on...
01:51:23.000Hunting licenses and even on gear, a percentage of that goes towards protecting habitat and hiring game wardens.
01:51:30.000It's a very efficient system and it's a system that's actually managed by wildlife biologists.
01:51:39.000Yeah, it's a system that's very managed.
01:51:42.000Just like in Alaska, they're game wardens up there.
01:51:45.000It seems like if you killed a moose or you fished with the wrong thing, the wrong hook, it's more important than if somebody got killed or something.
01:51:55.000You know what somebody told me, though?
01:53:44.000To this day, elk in this country are only in a small percentage of the population, including grizzly bears, a small percentage of the place where they used to be.
01:53:54.000California has a goddamn grizzly bear as its state flag.
01:59:27.000Yeah, it's a crazy place to live, but it's also like when you're up there, you recognize like, oh, these people have a way closer relationship with the natural world than we do.
01:59:45.000It's just a different relationship with wildlife.
01:59:49.000Yeah, it's like, you know, and everything up there, like, the one thing I noticed is if whether you're going out to, there was a cabin, there was a cabin at Mount Denali, and so what we would do is we'd ride snow machines.
02:00:00.000You'd have to park, and then you'd have to ride snow machines out to it.
02:00:02.000And it's like everything you do up there is, it's like serious.
02:02:38.000And the crazy thing is, is like, you're talking about, I got so fired up because, you know, I mean, I come from a farm and, you know, the deer there, it's not like they're, you know, they're not, we don't feed them, you know, we don't grow deer there, right?
02:02:51.000And so you're driving out and literally you're getting out to open the gate, leaving the King Ranch and you look over to your right, you know, 10 feet off the road and there's, you know, a non-typical huge deer right there and you're like, I'd give anything to have that on my wall.
02:03:27.000Even if it's a million acres, if it's a million acres in every, you know, 800, 900 yards, you have a feeder, and all the animals gather in the feeder, so you've got a blind that you hang out by the feeder.
02:04:56.000I had a bit in my act a couple years ago in my triggered Netflix special, triggered, about Texas and about how there's more tigers in captivity in Texas than in all of the wild of the world.
02:05:15.000In private collections, there's more tigers in Texas than all of the wilds of the world.
02:05:21.000So these giraffes, I think the story behind them was, and don't quote me on it, but I think the story behind them was the zoos couldn't afford to feed them anymore, and so they brought them in and let them run, and so they feed them.