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00:00:54.000She's, I would, you know, I always, because, you know, sometimes I'll go back to New York to do shows and I imagine, like, what if I'm in a restaurant and I see her and, you know, what would a meeting be like?
00:01:29.000But there's a limit to the constant, you know, if you want people to forget that your dad is the reason you have the job, you can't bring him up every five minutes.
00:01:40.000Well, don't you think she's in a real pickle?
00:01:43.000Because that show is how she makes a living.
00:05:20.000They did a great thing, and I forget who did it, but it was her and Killer Mike.
00:05:23.000It was a panel that maybe P. Diddy sponsored or something, and it was a A panel of thought leaders in the black community, and she was on it, Killer Mike was on it, and one of the girls from Black Lives Matter, and it was a really interesting conversation.
00:07:35.000I didn't check every day, but I think it was somewhere after the first video, which was a really, really fun one, and she didn't like that.
00:07:42.000The thing now I'm nervous about is with all the new YouTube rules, can they just decide to get rid of my account for or to just say it's not commercially viable?
00:07:51.000You don't have a real problem with that because you're making fun of someone on the right.
00:08:43.000There was a couple that adopted a child from Russia and they thought that the child was a little kid and it turned out she might have been 30. They don't know how old she was.
00:09:17.000You almost got me killed by that midget!
00:09:19.000I mean, the idea that there are midgets dressing up as children and trying to burrow into family so that they can wake up in the middle of the night and kill them is truly the funniest thing that has happened in recent memory.
00:09:33.000I don't think she's technically a midget.
00:10:40.000Because, you know, you gotta think, who knows what kind of abuse this little kid had gone through, well, actually a 30-year-old, as a little kid through in Russia, you know, in all these foster homes and foster care, and, you know, they are fucking ruthless over there.
00:13:42.000Who alleges that after Natalia began acting out violently, attacking a baby boy, pushing Christine into an electric fence, and making death threats, the family sought out psychiatric health.
00:13:53.000Health care officials, including Barnett's primary care physician who performed a bone density test and a clinical therapist who treated Natalia, believe her to be an adult impersonating a child.
00:14:14.000Can you imagine going in and you're ready to hear like she's got cancer or brain damage and she go, actually, you're raising a 30-year-old from the Ukraine?
00:14:22.000In 2012, a judge approved the Barnett's application to have Natalia's date of birth officially revised to September 4th, 1989, officially changing her age from 8 to 22. Shortly after, they rented Natalia an apartment and placed her under the supervision of an Indiana state health care provider so she could receive psychiatric treatment as an adult.
00:15:48.000Brought formal charges of neglect against the Barnetts, now divorced.
00:15:52.000An affidavit of probable cause from 2014 provided by Refinery29 refers to tests performed by Peyton Manning Children's Hospital in 2013 that seemed to contradict earlier medical reports about Natalia's age.
00:16:06.000Investigators at the time found Natalia's claims that she was a Ukrainian child who had been abandoned by the Barnett's credible.
00:16:13.000But Michael Barnett's attorney told the Daily Mail that the charges had been filed because another couple, perhaps convinced by Natalia that she was a minor, had petitioned to become her guardian.
00:16:23.000Oh my god, she tried to rope another family.
00:17:34.000If someone's really, really, really good and you're tired...
00:17:37.000Yeah, if you're working hard, you just come...
00:17:40.000You drink a little bit, maybe you're on some antidepressants that make you a little loopy.
00:17:43.000I wonder if the parents are like, how good of parents are we that for three years we didn't know that we had a 30-year-old psychopath living in our house?
00:17:51.000Like, maybe we're not the best at this.
00:20:06.000I don't want to read them, I don't want them to upset me, and I don't want to be upset at them, and if I see them, I don't want to know they said it, because it's not real.
00:20:18.000It's not real in that it is their real thought, and they did write it, But they don't really know me.
00:20:26.000Sometimes I'll just respond to somebody and they'll go, hey, and they'll totally, like they'll say something nasty and then I'll respond and then they'll go, hey, just kidding.
00:20:43.000Yeah, a lot of people, it's not great right now.
00:20:45.000No, and even if it was not, even though the economy's doing better, the vast majority of people are not doing what they want to do with their lives.
00:20:53.000And most people, at some point in your life, and I'm sure you've had jobs like that that are fucking terrible.
00:21:02.000And that feeling of frustration when you see someone on YouTube, and it's so easy to just say something gross and mad.
00:21:08.000We all do it as comics, you know, because we'll see the trailer for somebody special or whatever, and we'll be like, ugh, you know?
00:21:15.000And it's like, we shouldn't be focusing on that, but it's a lot of fun to commiserate with people in the shared hatred of something.
00:21:24.000And when someone's doing well, like yourself, your videos start picking up a little steam, people start recommending it, it's fun to shit on you.
00:22:04.000And some lady, he's, you know, he would, Otto had a puppet named George, and he would do the, you know, he would work the puppet, and the puppet would say fucked up things.
00:22:14.000And Otto would be like, hey, how are you saying that?
00:22:45.000That, to me, is so funny how somebody could just key in on something like that while the entire audience is laughing and having a good time.
00:23:16.000I mean, what we do, and you're obviously in the big, big venues now, but I was just in a club this past weekend, and it's like, it's an interesting time in the country to get a bunch of people in a room, pour alcohol all over them, and just let them go.
00:24:02.000It's a weird time for people shouting things out, too, because people think their opinion's more important than it's ever been before because of social media.
00:27:23.000It's like anything else, and no one cares anymore.
00:27:26.000Like, you know, there's shows that we all as comics do that are just routine jobs.
00:27:30.000You know, things would just show up, and they're like, okay, here we go, and here are the topics, and make some jokes, and then it's like, boom, boom, boom.
00:27:35.000I know, but at a certain point in time, you gotta be...
00:28:58.000I think all the money I squirreled away from the original season of Fear Factor, that took care of my family for a long time, and it'll probably be okay.
00:29:07.000I felt like this overwhelming responsibility to squirrel away more money.
00:31:54.000And I was just like, a hotspot is when I try to get into it, the maitre d' tells me to kill myself.
00:32:00.000And then they go, okay, well, let's do the joke again, but let's not say, kill yourself.
00:32:04.000I'm like, well, that's the joke, right?
00:32:06.000So they're like, just maybe say something like, when I try to get in, they say no.
00:32:10.000And I'm like, yeah, but that's not funny.
00:32:12.000So then we just tried to work around it a bunch of different ways, and I would just keep saying things, and you could tell they were just getting frustrated.
00:32:18.000Networks like Food Network love the idea of comedians.
00:32:21.000They're like, we love the idea of having a comedian come in to spice it up.
00:32:24.000And then when they get a real comedian, they're like, we don't want that.
00:32:27.000Well, they want a comedian with like three tracks.
00:33:36.000Bourdain did a brilliant show, but sometimes Bourdain's show was interesting because he'd be sitting with a family in Turkey and they'd be like, well, we haven't seen our daughter in two days and we don't really know where she is.
00:34:19.000But if he stays in his wheelhouse, his Hell's Kitchen, and doing all those shows that he did before, everybody would have been fine with it.
00:35:53.000And you would walk onto this beach, and then literally, they would drive you to the little tourist area, but you would just see people running around with bare feet, roosters.
00:36:03.000I mean, it was like you would drive through literal and crazy poverty, and you felt horrible because you were just on a boat that had 30 chefs.
00:36:11.000You were just on this disgusting boat with a 24-hour buffet where people are gorging themselves, and then you go to this island where people's bones are protruding out of their body.
00:36:19.000So it's a weird thing when you mix those worlds of food, travel, and education.
00:36:26.000That's often how it is, though, if you stay in a resort in a country like Mexico.
00:39:08.000Yeah, over the border, in Mexico, northern Mexico, and apparently the cartel and them had beef, and they put out a fucking hit on this family, and they shot down the wife, the daughters.
00:39:26.000And Jamie, there was an article, I think there was an article that people said was kind of like victim-blaming, where the New York Times ran it, where they were like, this family had a violent history.
00:39:35.000Yeah, there was a New York Times article about this family, I'm remembering it now, where they were basically like, this family's had a long violent history, or their name has been synonymous with violence, which is an interesting article to write, you know, right after they were massacred.
00:39:48.000Well, sometimes you read articles that are written, and you just, like, do you remember when Baghdadi died?
00:41:07.000They're still plotting shit, but, you know, their numbers have been diminished pretty substantially.
00:41:11.000Yeah, I think you've said it on this show, and I had a guy on my show, this guy, John Kiriakou, was a CIA guy who said, listen, we had decimated Al-Qaeda within a week or two of being in Afghanistan.
00:43:51.000If someone took over after Trump, and this guy was trying to get rid of the NSA and get rid of the CIA, and then there was some sort of a- He was going to the mafia, industrialists.
00:44:02.000And the mafia fucking got him into office in the first place.
00:45:09.000Sidebar, South Dakota today started a new campaign, anti-meth campaign, but it is onmeth.com, and meth, where on it is the slogan, that they spent over $450,000.
00:46:52.000I mean, I don't think that Barr, the Attorney General, has any real...
00:46:56.000Desire to get to the bottom of what happened.
00:47:18.000So if you don't want to open up that wound because it's never going to stop bleeding and guys like Barr who are – this is a guy that's participated in multiple cover-ups.
00:47:30.000I don't think he has any really interest in – he's a lifelong government official.
00:47:37.000You could say whatever it is, but he's just a career.
00:47:39.000His job is to protect the interest of these power factions in Washington, these government officials.
00:47:45.000There's no way they open this up, and there was no way that they could have had Jeffrey Epstein in open court, pointing fingers at maybe prime ministers and presidents.
00:51:43.000She probably had five different phones.
00:51:45.000She probably drives them into a spirit.
00:51:46.000I think it's hard for people to understand that elements of the CIA or the Mossad would condone the abuse of children to get leverage and information on people, but that's kind of what's happened before.
00:51:58.000Yeah, I think they just figured, look, these 15, 16-year-olds, they're going to keep their mouths shut.
00:52:03.000I mean, we're talking about when this happened.
00:52:19.000When did he start bringing people out to the island?
00:52:22.000He got the island, I think, late 90s or early 2000. Yeah, so nobody really understood the concept of social media or where it was all going to go.
00:52:30.000But what's really crazy is, like, no one's ever accounted for how that fucking guy got all that money.
00:52:35.000Well, Les Wexner, who was the head of Victoria's Secret, was, like, his mentor, and they were buddies, and Wexner gave him...
00:52:42.000And you know what's so funny about the mainstream press, you know?
00:52:44.000The Wall Street Journal ran some article.
00:52:46.000They're like, how could a guy like Les Wexner, who sold women's jeans forever...
00:53:29.000Well, my favorite thing about that was, I think the prince is autistic or something, and the people on Twitter were like, don't make fun of him.
00:55:49.000You see it come out as comedy sometimes.
00:55:51.000Every now and then there's a flash, you know, on Kill Tony, which is so much fun, sometimes I'll sit next to him and then you'll see like somebody, whether a comic, they might go over by, and you just see a flash go through Tony.
00:57:18.000We're supposed to help, the family says.
00:57:21.000They just so happened to come across this person that was not being treated right and cared enough to put the effort to make sure that something was done about it, she said.
01:01:40.000People are like, I have five Pulitzer Prizes.
01:01:42.000You're like, take a look at this fat guy yelling at his wanting to fuck his dad.
01:01:45.000I wish we could convince Meghan to just, like, just unblock you.
01:01:50.000I thought it would be funny, because I'm headlining Caroline's in March in New York, and I thought it would be funny to shoot a promo where I show up dressed as her and just sit in the audience of The View.
01:01:59.000I thought that would be funny, but I've been advised legally that that might not be the best course of action.
01:02:14.000You know, what I would think would be amazing is you in the dressing room, the makeup chair, getting turned into Meghan McCain, and Meghan McCain walks in and beats the fuck out of you.
01:07:37.000Well, the other thing is, you've got to remember, guys like Bill O'Reilly and Matt Lauer, they rose through the ranks to the heads of their...
01:07:42.000I mean, it's a certain type of person that gets there.
01:07:47.000What is new information, though, is that her agreement demanded she turn over all evidence which she conversed with O'Reilly, and furthermore, to act like such evidence never existed.
01:07:55.000Her settlement also required that she lie, even in legal proceedings or under oath, if any evidence becomes public by calling the evidence counterfeits or forgeries.
01:11:06.000I just don't know what the future for...
01:11:08.000Because there's guys that are like David Dobrik, huge YouTubers that are making all this money, and then a lot of them have talked about their ad revenue has been cut substantially.
01:11:20.000A lot of these guys are going, oh, the ad money is going to move into podcasts.
01:11:24.000Well, podcasting is a little cleaner in that if you have an audience, it's just an RSS feed and it gets aggregated through iTunes and through the Android apps and all these different apps.
01:11:33.000Do you think right now, supposedly, and I don't know, you would know more about this than me, that there's something that is transcribing podcasts?
01:11:39.000There's a way that they're going to transcribe podcasts that are going forward and ones that have already happened?
01:12:27.000Even if I disagree with somebody, even if I think what they're saying is abhorrent...
01:12:30.000As long as they're not harassing or threatening or doxing people, I'm never somebody who says they shouldn't be allowed to have a platform.
01:12:59.000But if they demonetize you, what it also does, it sends a signal to people that are also like that, that maybe haven't stepped out that far yet to like, oh, rain it back a little bit.
01:13:40.000So do you think, I think after December 12th, YouTube's going to be able to, if your channel's not commercially viable, they'll be able to just get rid of it if they want.
01:13:47.000That's a way for them to stop something in its tracks.
01:14:02.000Listen, we're going to take the view, and we're going to pull it off of YouTube if you don't get rid of that fucking fat fuck that's impersonating me.
01:14:09.000Sometimes I wonder if the shadow banning and stuff is because I just made Gary Vaynerchuk mad.
01:14:15.000And I'm like, I made a joke about him.
01:14:17.000Do you think he's powerful enough to just go to all these companies and be like...
01:14:40.000He puts out a little too much content.
01:14:43.000But it's also like all my loser friends think they're going to be the CEOs of companies because this guy is telling them there's a business inside of everyone.
01:15:01.000We don't need everyone thinking that they're going to be the next CEO. Right, but he's got to send the message out there as if everyone can be.
01:15:09.000That way the people that are listening and get it, the people that get it, they're like, okay, he's saying everyone can, that means me, I'm going to go for it, and then they make it.
01:15:19.000And I appreciate him doing that, but I need to send the message that most people can't.
01:15:23.000So in the same way that he has a message, I have a message, and my message is, it's not going to happen, and he has the...
01:15:30.000But it's also, there's no specific guidance with a lot of these guys, not only him, but he'll say things like, you could talk about it, or you could do it, but you better do both.
01:17:28.000I mean, and my point there is not to say anything shitty about Hogg, but to say, listen, if you're just going to tweet vague, meaningless horse shit all day, like, that's all that kid does, David Hogg will wake up and he goes, racism is bad.
01:20:15.00013. A fan of his sent me a pair of his sneakers, and actually they're K-Swiss sneakers that he's put his name on, but they're nice and comfortable.
01:20:25.000Yeah, he sent me like 10 and a half, so my feet are all fucked up in them.
01:20:38.000Her first video she launched was talking to the girl that was fired from CBS for putting out that ABC clip, and she said she was falsely fired.
01:22:03.000Oh, it's an open door into a lot of powerful people having to account for themselves, and that's not in their plan.
01:22:08.000I think that's part of what's happening to YouTube, where they're like, we don't like the idea that somebody like Alex Jones can start a channel and have more views than the nightly news.
01:22:15.000That means we're losing power and we're losing control.
01:22:18.000And I think that somewhere, whether it was in Davos or whatever, Bilderberg Conference, there was a room full of people that were like, we gotta rein technology in a little bit.
01:22:26.000You don't think that there's some thought to that?
01:22:33.000Well, I mean, especially people that have already done things that are illegal or immoral, unethical, and there's some sort of evidence of them.
01:22:47.000If you're a conspiracy theorist looking for something really crazy, this is a best case scenario because it has everything.
01:22:52.000It has powerful people, it has underage girls, it has all the equations.
01:22:56.000It has illegal sexual activity with underage girls on an island that he flies you to that has a fucking temple that's painted the color of the Israeli flag.
01:24:15.000It doesn't seem – I would have to have faith that – I think there's elements in the FBI and there's probably elements in the government that want to get to the bottom of this.
01:24:22.000But they're going up against a wall of people that don't want to get to the bottom of this.
01:25:10.000These guys are very good at what they do.
01:25:11.000If this was Mossad, or if it was CIA, or even if it was billionaires that contracted this out, too, I mean, these people are very good at what they do.
01:25:19.000Did you ever read the book The Strange Death of Vince Foster?
01:26:05.000And this guy, Terrence Yeeke, ended up, like, again, shooting himself in the head and then crawling a mile and climbing a fence because he wanted to die somewhere more private.
01:28:40.000And I think it's so weird that we look at that from times of peace, or from the land of peace, the environment of peace, and even comprehend, like, just jokes.
01:29:55.000I get that things happen in wartime that we, you know, sitting here in a cushy environment in Los Angeles, like, couldn't possibly understand.
01:30:03.000But I do think, you know, you can't just let the chaos of it become its own law.
01:31:09.000You just became president and you're going in around these generals who are like the baddest military motherfuckers on earth in the middle of a real war where they have to kill bad guys.
01:31:19.000And this is what you're relying on to kill these bad guys who could be very, very dangerous.
01:31:22.000I know Obama had no experience with that.
01:32:07.000Didn't know how to assert himself, and he probably, even though it didn't work out so well, I mean, what the fuck do you tell a guy like McChrystal who's running this war?
01:32:42.000I mean, as amazing as he is, as intelligent as he is, as well-read and articulate as he is, he's still fucking kind of young to be running the greatest army the world's ever known.
01:33:35.000One thing I would try to do in a situation like that is set an example of how I want my neighbors to act.
01:33:41.000I don't want my neighbors to fucking cancel each other if one guy says the other guy looked intimidated about something to his wife and you hear about it.
01:33:47.000Part of that is because you're a fighter and you came up with that conflict resolution and then you have, you know, isn't that, do you think part of that's martial arts, the way you look at situations or no?
01:33:55.000I mean, maybe, but it's also a sense of camaraderie.
01:33:58.000I think people can work out a lot more problems than they think they can.
01:34:41.000Oh, in person, in private, Team McChrystal likes to talk shit about many of Obama's top people on the diplomatic side.
01:34:48.000180 calls Jim Jones, a retired four-star general, veteran of the Cold War, a clown who remains stuck in 1985. But listen, this is what guys do.
01:37:36.000When he started talking about automation taking over jobs and about universal basic income, people going to need it to stay alive and survive.
01:38:21.000It started out when we were really complicated.
01:38:24.000So we were really complicated, and it was like flint tools.
01:38:27.000And then it went from flint tools to a bow and arrow with a flint on the end of it, to a fucking canoe, to a house, to a this, to a that, to electricity and solar panels.
01:38:35.000And it just kept getting better and better and better and better at an insane accelerated rate.
01:38:40.000But we look like the same people that made the fucking arrowhead.
01:40:21.000The algorithm now is, the gatekeepers are done, they're done, it's the algorithm.
01:40:26.000They're deciding who sees your stuff and who can see it and who becomes a fan and who doesn't.
01:40:31.000So that's AI already running our careers and lives.
01:40:34.000Well that's programmed, I mean what that is, is like computer learning and their algorithm is essentially just set up to figure out how to make the most money possible.
01:40:43.000It turns out, keep us arguing with each other.
01:41:04.000How about you have a Tinder where people can just meet up somewhere and just beat each other's asses.
01:41:09.000And it turns out that's more profitable because more people want to watch you beat the fuck out of each other than even turning you on to the new abortion article on Facebook.
01:43:22.000Oh, when they get banned for a little bit?
01:43:23.000Yeah, when they come back, that's when you know you got a live one.
01:43:27.000They go, I just got out of Facebook jail, so they go, I'm going to take it slow, and then they start, within a few statuses, they start getting back into like, hey, here's Nancy Pelosi's address, and Michelle Obama's a man, or whatever.
01:44:47.000Yeah, I would love to do it and I want to go on there, but during the holidays we could have Santa hats on and it would be nice and festive.
01:45:32.000Like Boston's a great comedy town or D.C. It's because there's a natural tension that you can kind of just touch on those tension points as a comedian.
01:48:53.000Let's Google how many slaves were there in 1864. In America, we're arguing about whether the chicken sandwich shop we like supports our views.
01:52:24.000But I think, you know, listen, people have heart attacks.
01:52:27.000Did you hear that there were, it turns out probably false, but there were rumors over the last couple days that Trump might have had a heart attack or had some sort of heart problem because he was in, like, some people were reporting that he was rushed to the hospital over the weekend and they hadn't seen him for a couple days.
01:52:40.000He came out this morning and said he didn't have a heart attack.
01:53:48.000These guys are freaking out to have that many people upset at you, that many people plotting against you, that many people that want to impeach you, that many people that don't want your policies, that many people that want to hold you by everything you've ever done, ever in your whole life, and bring it up every time you hold a press conference.
01:56:58.000It's like the scene from Borat, where he's doing the thing at the rodeo, and you could see their faces starting to change, because they're like, oh wait, something's off.
01:57:06.000You could see Acacia Cortez's face start to change as a woman started talking about eating infants.
01:57:54.000We just heard her say that, and as I was Googling it, Snopes came up, and it says, did AOC supporters suggest that fact-check mixture of results?
01:58:04.000I'm not going to go to the thing to read what they say, but why wouldn't they just say true?
01:59:52.000YouTubers are going to have millions of dollars, millions of fans, and no skills when they're all 40. I will make him the president of the United States.
02:02:02.000And what that means is you start swinging for the fences.
02:02:05.000And sometimes you land and sometimes you don't.
02:02:07.000But if one of them could have stayed technical and just boxed and just fired off sharp jabs and cleaned right hands and moved a lot and kept your hands up and boxed, don't get emotional.
02:02:17.000If they could just box and not get emotional, they'd start landing.
02:02:19.000And if you start landing, you start hurting the guy.
02:02:21.000You got to start hurting the guy with punches that...
02:04:21.000It's like, all the preparation, all your nightmares, you get knocked out, all the weird feelings, like you get hurt in training, you have to work around it, it still hurts when you get in there.
02:04:31.000All that stuff that they're dealing with when they go in there is like, stand-up times a million.
02:04:35.000Like, the thing about stand-up is if you do your prep work and you get your shit together, you could do it many, many nights in a row.
02:10:57.000Now, if you grew up, the thing is, if you grew up in an orthodox religion, in a religion that's very rigid, and you trust in them, even if it doesn't make any sense, like, I know a lady who did that, where she grew up in the Mormons,
02:11:13.000and then she got out of the Mormons, and once she got out, it was really hard for her to tell if people were full of shit.
02:11:20.000She felt like it was too easy to dupe her.
02:11:23.000She would get taken in by cult people, taken in by spiritual people, taken in by kooks.
02:11:36.000Because she believed such crazy bullshit for so long.
02:11:39.000If you're willing to believe that Joseph Smith found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus, and only he could read it because he has a magic seer stone, and then when the people came to read him, the angels took him away because God didn't believe you trusted him.
02:14:58.000I think until you get really good at it and then you either innovate or you really find what you're doing.
02:15:03.000But even with sales, it's like a personality-driven thing.
02:15:06.000You're trying to get this person to like you enough and also enjoy the product enough so you're trying to hype them up about it.
02:15:12.000You've got to show a certain amount of enthusiasm yourself so it's contagious.
02:15:16.000Someone who's a good salesman will talk to you about certain objects with such enthusiasm that you'll get more hyped up about the opposite.
02:15:23.000I was always so bad that I wouldn't shut up.
02:17:28.000But when you tell us, like, the work ethic, when you're, like, in the car and you listen back and you do two hours and you listen back to the thing, it's like, we're all just like, okay, well...
02:17:37.000Yeah, this, like, especially as you get older, like me, and you run out of...
02:17:43.000Like, I have to make these fucking premises work, and I'm doing a new special, like, every couple of years?
02:17:53.000You gotta get that shit out there, and you gotta tighten up those bits with the most, like, focus that you can give them during the time you're making them.
02:18:01.000And you go on stage at this store, and you turn the lights off, there's no crowd work, there's no...
02:18:37.000Because every now and then if I do a bit and it doesn't really work, sometimes I'll try to crowd work the audience back to being on my side and then try the next bit.
02:19:21.000Like a crowd work bit, there's no legs.
02:19:24.000Sometimes I'll try the next night to reference something that happened that I thought was funny, and if it's just not in the moment, it doesn't work.
02:19:42.000Your guy can teach you to keep your hands up, punch comes this way, you gotta learn how to catch things and move, you gotta learn how to counter.
02:19:49.000No, you have to figure it out on your own.
02:19:51.000You can vary your approach so much in boxing, only so much, but in comedy, it's Do you think people getting into stand-up now because of the way that things are, everything's social media driven, do you think that we're in the last era of that traditional type of stand-up?
02:20:30.000Although way more people are doing jujitsu than doing stand-up.
02:20:34.000Most people can do it because you don't have to have a certain personality like you do in stand-up.
02:20:39.000But if you could just put the time in, if you're a reasonably funny person and you start doing it and you put the time in and you're a driven person and you realize you can keep getting better if you keep paying attention to it, you're going to get addicted.
02:21:48.000And the video game led me to, like, challenges in a very unusual spot.
02:21:54.000Like, I got so lucky that I walked into Boston...
02:21:58.000Right at the cresting of the wave of the comedy boom.
02:22:19.000There was Nick's Comedy Stop, then there was a Comedy Connection on the same street, and then above it was the Comedy Club at the Charles Playhouse?
02:24:14.000It was next to another place that was larger.
02:24:19.000I can't remember the name of the other place, but the other place that was next to it that was really pretty big, next to Stitches, I Fuck, I wish I could remember.
02:24:27.000It was like a rock club, and they occasionally have big acts there.
02:24:30.000And I went to see Jerry Seinfeld there.
02:25:37.000I didn't want to drink before I went on stage.
02:25:39.000One thing I did make a decision, I said, look, if I have a drink right now before I go on stage, I'm probably going to want one every time I go on stage.
02:28:31.000And it was also the first time I'd ever been...
02:28:36.000First time I'd ever seen like legitimate professional stand-ups performing in a club like that too.
02:28:42.000Like in those environments with amateurs.
02:28:45.000Like the first time I ever saw like the stark difference between a guy like me and there was this guy Teddy Bergeron who was another Boston legend.
02:31:18.000They think that what they're gonna do is they're gonna give people, like, a shitty comic for, like, 15, 20 minutes, and then they're gonna go on after them and look like a hero.
02:31:31.000Also, it doesn't help anybody because the shitty comics, the reality is a lot of people that are really, really shitty, they're not going to get much better.
02:32:20.000It's a tiny fraction of people that go from open mic nights to headlining at the improv.
02:32:24.000It's a super, super, super small fraction.
02:32:26.000And it's not that they're not capable of it either, because sometimes people just, it's a little wrong zig or a little wrong zag, and then they go off the track and then they don't come back.
02:32:37.000You also have to not, you have to like getting kicked in the face a little.
02:32:40.000Because things are gonna, I mean, you're gonna have those times when things are not good and you have to deal with that.
02:32:47.000Like, I remember one guy looked at me once, he had a really rough set and he ended up quitting like two weeks later, but he looked at me, you could see it in his face, he goes, this wasn't fun.
02:32:54.000And you could see he was internalizing that in a way that was going to lead him eventually to the exit door.
02:33:01.000I think sometimes that just, you know, it's the pain of the bombing.
02:33:05.000It's just like you're not equipped for it.
02:33:08.000You know, at different points in your life, you're equipped for different kinds of pain, right?
02:33:11.000And sometimes the pain of that rejection of bombing is just you're already an emotional mess and you're already so fucking barely hanging on.
02:34:22.000I honestly think people used to go more bonkers back in the day when they got development deals.
02:34:26.000Yeah, they were just handed hundreds of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars.
02:34:30.000Not only that, but everybody had some crazy story about their show definitely is going to go, and already picked up by Universal, and they have a $1 million backup deal, and Warner Brothers is really interested in it.
02:34:40.000Dude, you'd have these conversations with these people.
02:34:42.000And back in the deal days, you would say to a comic, like, hey man, what's up?
02:34:47.000He's like, hey, well, everything's real good right now.
02:34:49.000Warner Brothers picked up my pilot and I'm in the middle of this process where I'm taking my life story and I'm going to turn it into a cartoon.
02:34:58.000Burr told me, he goes, you know, you used to do a five, seven minute set at the improv and if you killed, there was a chance somebody in the back had a bag of money.
02:35:32.000What would happen with the development deal thing would be you would get a deal, and then you'd be convinced your show was going to go, and then you started acting like you were famous.
02:36:12.000A shit ton of them just went away, man.
02:36:14.000And a lot of that, and it was just people that were like, it's all happening, and they just let it get to their head.
02:36:19.000And then if you're the head of a show, like, you know, I talked to Roseanne about it.
02:36:24.000She was talking about how she went fucking bonkers when she was running her original show and was making all that fucking money, like, out of nowhere.
02:36:32.000You know, that's one of the reasons why I worked so hard to, like...
02:36:36.000Get her comfortable and talk to her on the show and get her to open up about who she really is.
02:36:41.000Most people don't even know the story about her getting hit in the head by a car when she was 15, spending nine months in a mental health institute.
02:36:56.000But people need to understand, if you guys really respect mental health, like you say you do, if you're really compassionate, like you say you are, this is not a bad person.
02:37:15.000Yeah, she has challenges other people don't.
02:37:17.000But it's, you know, a lot of these people, you know, with Shane Gillis, you know, these are the same, the guy on SNL, these are the same people that are like, talk about mental health all day.
02:37:24.000And then they're tweeting this kid every single two minutes that, you know, he should be, you know, thrown out of a window.
02:37:31.000It's like, you don't know any of these people personally.
02:38:33.000It's a part of being a person, you know, and mob mentality is fucking real.
02:38:37.000It's real in person if you've ever experienced it.
02:38:40.000I've been in a couple of situations before where it just felt like anything could break out at any moment and things got wild.
02:38:46.000Last one was at the Conor McGregor fight.
02:38:48.000When Conor McGregor fought Khabib Nurmagomedov and then Khabib jumped out of the octagon and had a street fight with Dylan Dennis and people are flying into the octagon jumping over the top and punching Conor in the face and it was one of those feelings like holy shit anything can go on right now and I'm still broadcasting.
02:40:41.000I think a few people are screaming out while the herd of us is running towards a cliff.
02:40:46.000Yeah, my friend, my friend, Jessa Reed, who's a very funny comic, her mother was saying, you know, she has daughters, she goes, you know, you let the kids on the phones too much.
02:40:52.000She goes, Mom, in 10 years, they're going to be the phone.
02:42:06.000But what I'm thinking is, when I first saw 9-11 Road to Tyranny, it was one of the first videos that I ever watched, I was like, whoa.
02:42:12.000It's one of the first videos that ever opened my eyes up to certain conspiracies, and one of them was the conspiracies of using agent provocateurs to incite violence in riots to incite that feeling of chaos, and then they used it as an excuse for the police to come in and start arresting people,
02:42:28.000because now it's no longer a peaceful protest.
02:43:10.000But when he plays that video and you see that and it's like real clear and then you hear how it all played out that all the agent provocateurs wound up going to a safe house and then the police released them.
02:44:24.000Well, The Franklin Scandal was a scandal out of Omaha, Nebraska, the Franklin Credit Union, where there was a guy who was embezzling money, and then he was being investigated for that, but they said he has all this money because he's running an interstate pedophile network.
02:44:37.000And he's pandering kids to people in Washington, D.C. and New York.
02:44:41.000And there was a headline in the Washington Post or the Washington Times that were like, call boys get a tour of the Reagan White House.
02:44:47.000And this was a scandal with real victims who wanted to testify and then people started dying.
02:44:51.000The private investigator they hired, his plane broke up.
02:44:55.000One of the girls that testified was found guilty of perjury and then she was put in solitary confinement.
02:45:00.000They had to use two grand juries in Omaha to get rid of this scandal.
02:45:05.000Now, it's not as sexy as a Pizzagate or something because it happened in the 80s and 90s, but this shows you the blueprint for the government...
02:45:14.000You know, using, marshalling resources to silence people that were victims of this stuff.
02:46:20.000There was five Canadians there and they were like, I just started giving them an impromptu tour of Dallas because they were like, is this where Kennedy got wet?
02:46:27.000And I'm like, yeah, this is how it happened.
02:46:28.000How many people do you think have stood there and went like this?
02:48:36.000To me, it was the idea that that guy was killed immediately, and then obviously I've read a couple of books on it, but the idea that he gets killed immediately, that's where you go, something's wrong.
02:49:42.000It's an interesting thing because it really is...
02:49:45.000You know, Christopher Hitchens said that the Kennedy assassination was the movement that, like, that moment was the psychic movement of the 60s started.
02:49:53.000Like, that was the fracturing of reality for a lot of people in the same way that maybe Epstein was, where it just kind of...
02:50:00.000No, the president's got to be way bigger, man.
02:55:21.000It's like, now that that's on the table, you look at other events and you're like, well, we don't know necessarily how all of these things happen.
02:55:33.000Listen, there's conservative fire companies from Queens, from out by Long Island, that because they've gotten sick and stuff, have demanded a new investigation.
02:57:09.000Right after planes crash, all the dust is in the air, all the fucking pollutants, particulates, and everybody's breathing all that shit in.
02:57:16.000I mean, you've got to go back to work eventually, right?
02:58:12.000Source close to the singer tells TMZ, who we're hearing this morning, that Donna was in New York City during 9-11, living at an apartment near Ground Zero.
02:58:21.000Donna became almost paranoid about breathing the air, which was heavy, with a rancid odor.
02:58:28.000In the months and years following 9-11, Donna's feelings intensified.
02:58:32.000One source tells us that when he was around Donna, she would constantly spray some sort of disinfectant in the air.
02:58:37.000Danny Terrio, the host of Dance Fever, tells us when he was around Donna post-9-11, she would hang six sheets in her dressing room to prevent dust from coming in.
03:01:11.000When you're gone, it'll just be, you know, God only knows who's going to step in.
03:01:16.000yeah yeah it'll be not good jesus christ you know who knows you're so lucky you weren't a musician right yeah my dad was a musician but it didn't really work out that well i mean he was really good and really talented but he didn't really go to the next level but music sucks well imagine being in a band and you gotta make sure the other guys show up at rehearsal yeah it's tough and they don't want to it's hard and one of the guy's girlfriends wants to get married and have a baby and wants him to quit the band and get a job yeah like tommy We're going on the road.
03:02:03.000Just handle yourself, not a team of people.
03:02:07.000Yeah, I have a guy that I work with, Ben, who edits all my videos, who's great, who I love, but I don't have an interest in having a sketch group of people.
03:02:18.000I want to be able to be light and fast and do things that I want to do when I want to do.