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00:00:10.000Well, we were just talking about the Air Force admitting that their pilots had seen UFOs, and you were telling me you interviewed one of those pilots.
00:00:19.000Yes, I interviewed Commander Fravor, and he was saying that this...
00:01:02.000You know a radar does a blip, blip, blip, blip.
00:01:05.000They don't know how fast it actually went.
00:01:07.000They just know it went this insane distance.
00:01:12.000In less than a second, less than a radar jump.
00:01:16.000And they had observed them in that area without his knowledge, like other Air Force pilots had observed them, and then had brought it up the top of the food chain, but it wasn't something that got distributed to everybody until he saw it.
00:01:31.000When he saw it, he was like, what in the fuck am I looking at here?
00:03:18.000This is what I keep telling people, and no one seems to think this is a big deal.
00:03:23.000But, you know, the Democrats and the mainstream news have spent the last three years telling everybody that Trump is a Manchurian candidate, he's a traitor to our country, and working under the behest of Vladimir Putin.
00:03:35.000And while they're impeaching him, they're voting to give him an extra $131 billion to go bomb anybody he wants.
00:03:41.000And if he's bombing at the behest of Vladimir Putin, why would you give him an extra $131 billion?
00:03:45.000Now let me tell you how much $131 billion is, Joe.
00:07:16.000David Pakman put a video up that showed all the different times that Trump has struggled to talk.
00:07:21.000But there's one that's really disturbing because it's obvious he's under some sort of sedative or he's coming down from some speed and he's barely staying awake while he's talking.
00:07:31.000It's like if you called me at 3 o'clock in the morning and I just worked 24 hours in a row and you're like, hey man, what are you doing?
00:08:17.000There was a reporter that named the Dwayne Reed pharmacy that he had gone to in New York to fill this prescription for a metabolic condition, which he said is like a bullshit reason.
00:11:39.000I know you're probably right in terms of one of the reasons why they released it, but I think there's also this...
00:11:46.000When you get a bunch of really credible people, like that Commander Fravor guy, when you get actual data, like radar, you actually can look at the video of the infrared camera of them tracking that thing.
00:11:59.000There's enough of those now that people are like, well, what the fuck is going on?
00:12:03.000And if you guys have all this money and all this equipment, is this something that the Chinese are doing or the Russians are doing?
00:12:09.000Or is this something that you can't explain?
00:13:42.000The mind shifts when you see bodies, when you've killed people, when you've made these rationalizations, and also you're very aware that someone's trying to do to you what you've done to people, and your entire existence, from dawn till dust, is eliminate the enemy.
00:14:00.000It's a mindset that people slide right into.
00:14:55.000Oh, so he said he smoked pot when he was in Vietnam, because I told him I smoked pot, right, just to let him know everything that's happening with me chemically.
00:15:03.000And he said that, he said, yeah, I did it.
00:15:07.000He goes, yeah, I did it once in Vietnam.
00:15:09.000He said they would have a helicopter circling the medical, he was a doctor, the medical, and so you could always hear it constantly searching for whatever, people coming to get us, and then all of a sudden I didn't hear it.
00:15:22.000So I had to go help the guy, and he said, I just smoked pot, and as a doctor, you have to be able to disassociate from what you're doing, and he said, I couldn't.
00:15:30.000And he said, so when I came up on him, and I could tell this guy was going to be crippled, and I couldn't, it messed me up.
00:15:39.000And I could see, could you imagine, like, you're new to pot, you know how it makes you sense things extra, especially when you first start, you know how you just extra sense, and then you walk up on a scene like that, like, oh my god, I couldn't imagine that.
00:15:54.000So that, yeah, I probably would stop smoking pot if Talk about bad trips.
00:16:11.000When I would travel out of the country, I would always think that, oh, I get like a little cold flu thing every time I travel out of the country.
00:16:20.000Like I would get night sweats and I would kind of get headaches and I would feel a little flu-y, you know?
00:16:27.000And then I got this dental implant, and so I didn't, so I want, you know, they say don't smoke or whatever, so I'm like going to be extra good.
00:18:46.000I mean, you would call it paranoia, but I kind of welcome it sometimes because I think it's good to be hyper-aware of all these different things.
00:18:54.000And it makes you appreciate when you're not.
00:18:56.000I think that feeling that you get when you get high, when you're like, oh my god, everything is fucking dangerous.
00:19:01.000The world is a dangerous place, and I'm going to die someday for sure.
00:20:15.000That was more like my, that was a weird, that was the weirdest feeling I had ever had up to that moment was like my legs just stopped working.
00:21:40.000It was the way it worked out, like, you know, they're calling, okay, you're up.
00:21:43.000You can feel it's coming, but you can't go right now.
00:21:45.000Yeah, it's like, oh no, and then he just makes the rock up there, and then all of a sudden, blah, blah, blah, blah, diarrhea, he's like, oh my god, he wound up winning the fight.
00:23:19.000I think it's because I'm eating so much meat that when you have too much protein, there's something called glucogenesis, I think it's called, where your body breaks the protein down and turns it into glucose.
00:27:15.000Well, you know what's funny is I've noticed this.
00:27:18.000If people watch a musician go up and play, like even an open mic or whatever, and he plays a song or two and you don't like him, you'll still applaud after he's done.
00:27:25.000But if a comic goes up and he's not funny, it's like, what the fuck does this guy think he's doing?
00:29:40.000I might not be able to go to Zaney's, but I could Well, there was a time during the 80s where there was so many spots and so few comics that some really mediocre comics got on television.
00:35:00.000Where you can dose your friend, we all joke around about it, laugh about it more, nothing happens.
00:35:06.000And he actually got a bump in his career.
00:35:08.000Like, he started selling out places faster, and when he was going places, Ari would be doing shows, and people would yell out, Dose me, Ari!
00:35:19.000And before that, Ari used to do something, I should say allegedly, because this thing, which may or may not have happened, is very illegal.
00:35:26.000But he would do, in places where weed was very illegal, he would play a game called Find the Edible.
00:35:34.000So he posted on Twitter, he'd give people hints, and he would leave some fucking nuclear edible to some North Dakota guy who's going to find it, who probably doesn't get any real weed.
00:35:46.000And he's going to get one of those stars of death.
00:35:49.000And he got in trouble, I think in Minnesota.
00:38:23.000Where you feel like you're tripping a little and you're experiencing the...
00:38:27.000God save me from the comments, but people get mad at me when I talk about this, but there's a thing that happens when you...
00:38:32.000Because I've talked about it so many times, and I know I'm a repetitive fuck, but when you eat marijuana, your body produces something called 11-hydroxy-metabolite.
00:38:41.000It's four to five times more psychoactive than THC. So as it's processed by the liver, you get something that's not psychoactive in the smoked form.
00:38:48.000So when you smoke it, you get THC. But when you eat it, you get 11-hydroxy metabolite.
00:39:32.000I took the pumps like 20 minutes before he got here, and then in the middle of the podcast, I'm like, holy shit, I don't know if I can...
00:39:40.000Thank God, Sam is like a super articulate guy, so I could just kind of throw a question his way, and while he's expanding and talking, I was pretending to listen, but really just trying to keep it together.
00:39:53.000Trying to keep it together and make sure that I try to sober myself up.
00:41:24.000One time I was talking to a guy, and his girlfriend was sitting right there, and she just kept spinning in her chair and playing with her phone.
00:41:32.000Spinning in her chair and playing with her phone.
00:41:33.000And I'm trying to pay attention to him, but I'm just seeing this girl spinning in her chair and playing with her phone.
00:41:39.000And then afterwards I was like, no more.
00:45:27.000So we realized that those can be taken down and then we started doing it ourselves and then we realized like the only way to really stop them from doing it in real time is to do it, like film it, have the podcast filmed, and then have the clips cut up and then release it.
00:47:35.000So he's saying, the guy who investigated said he thinks it's intelligence.
00:47:41.000And so the reason why he took that claim on that was to show that he could take down every one of my videos because that chimes in every one of my videos.
00:47:49.000So for a while, so until that copyright strike got cleared up, I don't have a liaison.
00:47:54.000It took a while, and so we took that chime out of all our videos.
00:48:15.000We've gotten copyright hits for a screenshot, you know, when you see the video and there's like two heads and there's a small photograph, a screenshot.
00:48:24.000The screenshot was a photo that someone had took and they were claiming copyright on that photo that was just on the internet.
00:48:32.000Just because we had it in our screen, we had to change the photo.
00:50:43.000It was the whole, but there was the LA Times, it was an unbelievable smear.
00:50:47.000But the New York Times one was the one where they tried to say that his conversation with David Duke, where he was like, oh, of course you're not racist!
00:50:56.000It was as clear as day that he was joking.
00:51:00.000As clear as day that he was being sarcastic.
00:52:26.000That's the beautiful thing about having corrupt and dishonest media, is that it opens the door for honest media like you and independent guys like yourself, like Pacman, Kalinske.
00:54:28.000But isn't it some, like, there's forms of insider trading that are legal if you're in Congress that wouldn't be legal if you were a regular citizen?
00:54:38.000I know that they don't have the rules that they should.
00:54:42.000There's rules that, I shouldn't say a regular citizen, but if you were working for a corporation, there's rules like they're allowed to get information and influence in terms of how they invest money.
00:56:00.000So when George Bush, when the Republicans lose the House and she becomes leader and they go, you're going to impeach him, she goes, impeachment's off the table and nobody can figure it out.
00:56:08.000But nobody pushed her on it because we were just so glad we had a check on George Bush at that time.
00:56:13.000Well, Julian DeSantis then reveals there's the memo that shows that she was briefed in 2002 on their torture program, which makes her complicit in torture because she didn't do a goddamn thing about it.
00:56:23.000Did you see the interview that I did with Edward Snowden?
00:57:14.000That's kind of like the mission of my show, is to remind people how we got Trump.
00:57:18.000People want to pretend that corruption and lying started in January 2017. The Afghanistan Papers just came out, Joe, that revealed that three administrations in a row lied completely, 100% about Afghanistan from the day they took over to the day they left.
00:57:33.000Stuff like Donald Rumpfeld saying, we don't even know who the bad guys are.
00:58:21.000So what happened was they did a study, just like the Pentagon Papers, right?
00:58:25.000They do their own study that reveals that they're lying.
00:58:28.000So they interviewed 400 people that were like in the generals and in the military and contractors and all these kind of people to find out, so they can know what would happen in Afghanistan.
00:58:48.000They would lie that it's going well, and then their personal writings would be revealing that they didn't know what the hell they were doing.
00:58:54.000And so, it's worse than you think, but we can still just keep sending $4 billion a month there.
00:59:43.000I mean, Trump, like, actively, while in office, and this is like an Eisenhower thing, like as he's leaving, while in office, is talking about the military, and it barely got mentioned.
01:00:41.000We've just invented a whole other economy!
01:00:43.000Just since Trump got elected, $131 extra billion!
01:00:48.000I mean, just think what you could do with that.
01:00:50.000You could build 131 Yankee stadiums every year.
01:00:54.000Non-cynically, do you think that a lot of this impeachment stuff and a lot of the scandal stuff is really a distraction for a lot of these things they're pushing through?
01:01:04.000Just like I told you, because if they really believe that he was doing all these things, why would they keep giving him extra money to go bomb people at his own business?
01:01:13.000They don't try to put handcuffs on him.
01:01:17.000So that's how you know they're full of shit.
01:01:19.000And the reason why they're coming at Trump in the way...
01:01:23.000So now they're starting to oppose him because of this Iran thing.
01:01:25.000So now you turn on CNN and Chris Cuomo goes, hey, why doesn't Congress do its job and take back the war powers that they gave to the president under this AUM? So now, which is what I predicted would happen when Trump...
01:01:36.000The silver lining of a Trump presidency was all the shit that the Democrats and Republicans have been agreeing on, which is war, fracking, opening the Arctic to drilling, all that stuff, gassing immigrants at the border.
01:01:48.000Now we're all going to become aware of it.
01:01:50.000Well, the Democrats spent three years doing frickin' Russiagate, so they didn't ever oppose him on that stuff, and they let him keep doing it.
01:01:56.000And so now people are starting to become aware of what's happening.
01:01:59.000And so now Chris Cuomo is going, hey, why don't we, why doesn't Congress do their job?
01:02:04.000Why are you letting crazy President Trump?
01:02:06.000Well, they just gave him 131, they gave him his spying powers.
01:04:27.000They're digging their own grave, though.
01:04:28.000What they're doing is they're making themselves less and less relevant, and they're making guys like you and independent people more and more relevant and more and more trustworthy.
01:04:37.000And that's why they keep going to the catnip of Russiagate or Trump's tweets or impeachment and this phone call to the thing.
01:04:44.000And look how the media runs interference for the establishment.
01:04:48.000It's amazing to pretend that the Bidens aren't corrupt.
01:05:17.000So yeah, I saw that video, but the defense to that is they're saying, but that prosecutor was corrupt, and the next guy was even more tougher of an investigator, but that guy was investigating Burismo at the time.
01:06:20.000That's why we don't have a functioning medical system or a functioning banking system, because Barack Obama was paid off by the health insurance companies and the Wall Street banks.
01:07:32.000But it's amazing that they still honor that.
01:07:34.000They're so rock-solid in their commitment to this corrupt system that even after the guy can't even help him anymore, he's out of office, they hook him up with these speaking jobs.
01:20:05.000There's some people that I've seen where they do well, especially like some podcast folks, they have a crowd and then the people will come to see them when they do their shows and like, oh, they're just happy to see you and you do well.
01:20:17.000But then you go do a show, a rando show at the fucking improv where there's like five other people, especially that lab.
01:26:27.000I used to talk to my grandfather because he was an immigrant, and he came over from Italy, and he told me all the horrible shit kids in school would say to him, all the horrible shit people in the street.
01:27:54.000But most of the country, most of the country, and this is the dirty secret about the United States of America is that we rely, a lot of, I shouldn't say we, a lot of industry, podcasts, it doesn't really rely on illegal immigrants, but a lot of industries rely on illegal immigrants, and it's a fucked up situation to be in for them because they really don't have a path to become legal,
01:28:14.000even if they've been proven for decade after decade that they're a viable, contributing part of our culture because they got over here illegally.
01:28:23.000Even if they came over here as a child, then we can't let you stay, you know?
01:28:27.000And that's another thing, you know, the immigration, they've been scapegoated since, as far as I can remember, Bill Clinton.
01:28:35.000So Bill Clinton, if you go back to the C-SPAN videos of him saying Mexicans coming here taking our jobs and all that stuff, he did all that stuff.
01:28:42.000And Hillary Clinton, she bragged that she voted for a border wall.
01:29:55.000Do you think that the main thing about impeachment is supposedly that he tried to get Ukraine to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden?
01:30:30.000Because he debunked it, like a good reporter's supposed to do.
01:30:34.000He always makes the point that Trump is not a suitable steward of imperialism.
01:30:40.000And they think he puts an ugly face on the shit we've been...
01:30:43.000Trump puts an ugly face on the stuff we've been doing all along.
01:30:48.000And so now people are going to be more aware of it, and we would have been more aware of it if the Democrats would have actually opposed him on substance instead of Russiagate.
01:30:55.000He says things sometimes that you go, you are just allowed to write your own speech?
01:31:01.000Like when he was talking about Baghdadi, that he died like a dog.
01:31:07.000You're allowed to say that he died like a dog?
01:31:09.000Or how about the, this is the weird thing, that he uses Twitter to threaten other countries.
01:31:14.000Like when he was talking about Iran, that if they respond, we will respond in perhaps a disproportionate manner.
01:31:21.000Like, you're using Twitter to threaten, like, Nobody ever thought that there was going to be this sort of a venue for a president to just have mouth diarrhea.
01:31:36.000I really believe that's a big reason why a lot of the establishment wants to get rid of him, because he makes them look bad.
01:32:47.000And so they have to extort money out of their own candidates saying, if you don't give us $170,000 each to do this unity video, we won't have any money to help you once you win the nomination.
01:32:56.000So they all ponied up and they're all in it.
01:32:58.000And Bernie's in a unity video where he's supposed to be speaking against the millionaires and billionaires.
01:33:02.000There's two billionaires in the fucking video.
01:33:35.000And I tell you what, if he picked Tulsi Gabbard as his vice president, he would crush Donald Trump.
01:33:39.000Because there are a lot of right-wingers, and there's a lot of independents, there's a lot of anti-war people who are upset with the Republican Party, a lot of independents, libertarians, and they like her because she's A in all the things that you like about her.
01:33:51.000She's strong, she doesn't fly off the hip, and she's proven herself as a patriot, all that stuff.
01:36:47.000And then when she got her DNA test, Trump said that if she was Native American that he would give her a million dollars or something like that.
01:36:56.000And she was like, well, time to pay up.
01:38:35.000NIWRC is a non-profit working to protect Native women from violence.
01:38:38.000More than half of Native women have experienced sexual violence and the majority of violent crimes against Native Americans are perpetrated by non-Natives.
01:38:45.000Send them your $1 million check, real Donald Trump.
01:38:48.000So she's saying that because she's Native American, she tested a trace amount.
01:38:54.000Really, it's probably like she blew a Native American guy in college.
01:38:58.000By the way, real Donald Trump, I remember saying on 7-5, you'd give me $1 million for charity if my choice of DNA showed Native American ancestry.
01:39:34.000I mean, I thought that when she said she got fired from teaching and then the video came out and said she quit, I thought that would be the end.
01:41:03.000But I mean, it's just, it's amazing how much they can keep quiet.
01:41:06.000Well, it's amazing that the Epstein thing just comes and goes and nobody gets, nobody, nobody gets thrown, run out of office, nobody gets nothing.
01:44:41.000Because he became the heavyweight champion of the world in an incredible knockout, and I bet everybody was kissing his ass, and he bought a Rolls Royce.
01:45:22.000But I don't know if he can sell a lot of pay-per-views, especially after that second performance.
01:45:27.000The problem with the second performance is the second performance was so piss poor that you're going to need multiple, like, We're good to go.
01:46:07.000When you're a heavyweight and you're slinging those fucking gigantic fists at each other, all those guys need to do is catch each other once.
01:46:16.000Apparently it just happens all the time.
01:46:18.000There was a Russian heavyweight boxer who was just criticized because he showed this video of a sparring session where he flatlines his trainer or his sparring partner with one punch.
01:46:30.000For the knockouts you see in the ring, there's probably, you know, Dozens more you'll never see with top-flight guys that are just, you know, they're bringing in guys.
01:46:41.000Like, when Klitschko was the champion, he brought in guys like Anthony Joshua to spar with.
01:46:46.000He brought in guys like Deontay Wilder.
01:50:01.000And in it, Picasso's painting, and he's talking, and he says, an artist must stay well fucked.
01:50:09.000Otherwise his eye goes from the page to the windowsill down to the street across over to the cafe where the girl's sitting with her skirt up and And it's like you got that's what that always stuck with me Yeah, if an artist doesn't say well fuck that I was gonna be doing is thinking about getting laid Yeah,
01:50:26.000men will understand that but men will rarely say that in the presence of women and so because of that women Either don't believe it or they dismiss it or they think you're a pig for expressing it.
01:50:54.000I heard a thing on NPR one time, probably 15 years ago, and they were doing a story about this woman who decided to transition to be a man.
01:51:03.000And so she documented it and did like an audio thing and she talked about how when she was into it and started feeling her testosterone and she would become attracted to women and she goes, it didn't have to be a boob.
01:51:45.000But you've got men denying it because they want women to like them, and then you've got women dismissing it because they think that the men who express it in an honest way are pigs and sexist and they exhibit toxic masculinity, which is...
01:52:00.000That's a hilarious expression because you need to thank toxic masculinity for all the bridges, all the jets, all the rockets, all this toxic masculinity.
01:52:10.000If you break down all the things that men have invented and all these toxic men have prevented you from being murdered in war and protected the country and all the different things that you could attribute to toxic masculinity, most of it's positive.
01:52:29.000Yeah, now I forgot what that is because I had this question as it's sitting in my head since you started talking about toxic masculinity and I fucking can't even get the word out.
01:52:48.000They just have any women who developed in a terrible way, most likely with bad parents, most likely abuse, physical and or sexual, and then they become a monster at the end of all this process.
01:54:22.000Both statements, generalizations are disgusting, whether they're a gender-based generalization or a sex-based generalization, whatever it is.
01:54:31.000So they would say that that's okay to say that about white men because of the power dynamic.
01:56:13.000I read this tweet once by this person who was saying, basically, to shame people into using that, ram it down their throats, and eventually they'll accept it, and it'll become normal.
01:56:23.000Because if they want to refer to us as trans, we have to refer to them as cis, and we have to force them to refer to themselves as cis.
01:56:59.000But the problem with that is trans is extremely rare.
01:57:02.000It's the reason why you have that prefix in the first place, because it's really, really unusual to meet a trans woman, despite how the internet would have you feel.
01:58:34.000A lot of Jamaicans refer to themselves as Jamaicans, though.
01:58:36.000The thing about Jamaicans is, like, it's really unique how, like, unique cultures are known for, like, specific things that are very positive.
01:58:44.000Like, Jamaicans are known for incredible work ethic.
01:59:21.000I'll do a show where I'm criticizing someone or something, and then I'll smoke a joint afterwards to relax, and then I start second-guessing everything I said.
01:59:36.000I mean, I'm thinking about my poorly worded rant of male versus women, and I'm thinking like, well, I probably should have said that better.
01:59:45.000What I was getting at from all of this, though, is that...
01:59:49.000We have to look at each other as individuals, and this identity politics bullshit that people play, whether it's male versus female, whether it's black versus white and Asian and this and that, they have to be humans, humans first.
02:00:03.000And one of the weirder things that's going on in Hollywood now is they're leaning so hard on diversity that it gets distracting.
02:00:13.000It's like it gets, like, I went to see, as an example, I went to see Frozen, the musical.
02:01:28.000If there was a musical, and there was a guy, and we decided, we'll just have a white guy play the father of some black guy, and we're just not going to say why he had a kid that was black.
02:01:40.000We just assume that you'll figure it out.
02:01:57.000I appreciate it, because I think ultimately what it is, is it's all...
02:02:03.000All of it is moving in the right direction It's just doing it in a very clunky way They're moving against discrimination They're moving against racism They're moving for cultural diversity Beautiful But it's just distracting.
02:02:26.000And then they'll just fucking start hiring Asians for things and trying to get Asian people jobs and try to, look, look, look, look, we have Asians!
02:02:55.000So when these things come up, they use this controversy to gain money or notoriety or push their cause or to use it as the wind behind their sail so they can talk a lot of shit about other people and get a lot of attention.
02:03:28.000You know I was sexist because I voted for Jill Stein.
02:03:30.000Well, anybody that says you're sexist for making fun of Elizabeth Warren dancing is a fucking buffoon, and that's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
02:03:36.000Like, are you saying that you're a person running for the commander-in-chief of the greatest army the world has ever known, and you can't make fun of the way they dance because they have a vagina?
02:04:14.000And if we don't believe in the individual, then we don't really believe in equality.
02:04:20.000We have to, everyone has to have their own way to make it through this life and express themselves in a unique way where they can contribute in a unique way and we can appreciate them for who they are.
02:04:31.000Not appreciate them as a woman or appreciate them as a man or as a white man or a black woman or what.
02:04:49.000And we should, especially when it comes to meritocracy things, like positions of power in government, like you get elected officials, or even comedians or anything else, you want to make sure that the person who's They're good.
02:05:09.000But then there's also this other little part of it.
02:05:12.000So even someone who, say, doesn't have the pedigree, like there's a white guy from Harvard, right?
02:05:17.000He has the straight A's, the greatest whatever.
02:05:20.000And then you might get an A-minus student who's a minority or a B-plus student, and that would be more effective to have in a position because they have a different world experience.
02:05:30.000So a meritocracy, in a sense, kind of leaves out some people who have different hurdles to get over and have different life experiences that this person won't have.
02:05:40.000Like, you become the people you're surrounded by.
02:05:42.000So you might be an African-American, but...
02:05:48.000So it's more important to have different economic represented, because you can be really smart, like Chelsea Clinton, but she doesn't know what it's like to have her medicine.
02:05:59.000She doesn't know what it's like to have to drop a pharmacy to get medicine for her daughter.
02:06:03.000She might be super smart, but she doesn't have this information that we need, which is like when FDR, when he was doing the banks and stuff, he got a banker from Texas.
02:06:16.000So there's something to that too, right?
02:06:18.000So it's not just a straight meritocracy.
02:06:20.000Well, it is a meritocracy in that there's merit in their life experiences.
02:06:24.000These individuals that live these difficult lives.
02:06:28.000I think that's one of the greatest currencies that a person really carries with them in their life is their experience overcoming adversity.
02:06:36.000Their experience overcoming adversity Shapes their character.
02:06:40.000And when you meet someone, maybe you meet this woman and she has all B's through college, but she's been through a lot of shit and she's uniquely clever in how she handles things.
02:06:54.000And you talk to her and you look at her record and you go, you know what?
02:06:56.000I like you better than this guy who got all A's because he seems kind of like spectrum-y and he's not going to fit in with my company.
02:09:47.000Like, the actual downloads, I mean, he does alright, but he doesn't do as good as, like, Dax Shepard or me or any of the people that are at the top of the heap in comedy.
02:09:56.000Well, you know, you use your platform, Joe, to actually have real conversations and say things.
02:10:01.000Now, I haven't listened to Conan Bryan's podcast because, you know, I've got anything else to do, but...
02:12:04.000That's the cognition of a fucking first lady.
02:12:07.000We're going to talk about cognition, how we fucking got here, and you're smarter than that, Andy Richter, and that's why I hold his feet to the fire.
02:12:23.000Let's forget that Barack Obama was unbelievably corrupt, which is why we don't have a functioning banking system, which is why we don't have a functioning healthcare system, which is why he took us from two wars to seven, which is why he had a peace prize and a fucking kill list.
02:13:13.000So I was doing a show and this woman who I know who was involved in Democratic politics, I kind of want to say anything about who they are, because they'll get in trouble.
02:15:29.000There's got to be some new action taken to clean up a lot of these crime-ridden communities.
02:15:35.000And the idea that we can spend all this money overseas, but we can't spend money on Flint, Michigan, or Detroit, or the South Side of Chicago, that to me is insane.
02:16:08.000You don't know what that's like, and we should make it so that no one knows what that's like.
02:16:12.000If we want America better, the best way to start is to clean up all the spots that suck and make people that are coming out of there have a real chance at making something out of their life.
02:16:22.000Don't have it so that they're starting out from the time they're a child with a massive deficit.
02:16:48.000They've got to do something about the violence and do something about the gangs in this repetitive cycle of people growing up in these neighborhoods and getting trapped in these same horrible conditions that their parents did or their grandparents did.
02:18:07.000And he told me he was a Waffle House cook.
02:18:10.000And he told me, and I might have even told you this before, he said, hey, we all knew that Donald Trump was a loudmouthed Yankee who should have had his ass kicked a long time ago.
02:18:17.000But Hillary Clinton wasn't offering us anything.
02:18:20.000So he was at least offering us something.
02:19:07.000And you like beating the shit out of people.
02:19:08.000Well, I like some violent things, and I have guns, and you know, there's a lot of things that you could make an inference, like, oh, that guy seems like you would be.
02:19:16.000But no, I... My friend Graham Elwood is, do you know him?
02:20:59.000That's why there's millions and millions of wild pigs.
02:21:01.000They started with just a few pigs that were on, like, the Pinta or the Santa Maria or some shit, and they spread across the entire country.
02:21:08.000But once you find out that they have emotions...
02:21:36.000The only time they do do that, though, in some places illegal, the only time they do do that with pigs is when they're trying to eradicate all of them.
02:21:44.000Like, there's some farmlands that experience just devastating losses because of wild pigs.
02:22:34.000So he has this portable chicken house and they roll it into a new field and then the chickens go into the chicken house at night and then in the morning they come out and then they go roam around and they move it to another spot.
02:22:45.000So they eat all the bugs and all the grass and all the stuff in the area and then they move to a new spot.
02:22:50.000And so they raise chickens and the eggs are healthier.
02:23:33.000Yeah, when a wild, when a pig, a domestic pig goes wild, I mean, there's different versions of them, but they can all breed with each other.
02:23:40.000When a domestic pig goes wild, like say if you had a domestic pig and you said, go ahead, Porky, be free, and you open up your gate, within weeks, within weeks, they start to physically change.
02:23:51.000Their snout starts to lengthen, their hair gets thicker and bushier, and their tusks grow.
02:25:05.000So there's grass-fed, that kind of shit?
02:25:07.000Yeah, you can buy grass-fed, grass-finished meat from farmers that have a commitment to humanely raised and humanely euthanized animals.
02:25:15.000I wouldn't say euthanized, killed animals.
02:25:18.000The way they kill them when they harvest them, they just lead them into a pen, they have no idea what's coming, and they put a bolt to their head and bang, they take them out.
02:25:25.000It can be done in a way where the animal has no idea what happens until it's over.
02:29:21.000I'll tell you why, because we used to eat differently, and we still have a leftover organ, some weird fucking organ for breaking down bark and shit.
02:33:18.000I think if we're going to spend money as a community, if we have a gigantic community of people, and that's what a country really is, right?
02:37:48.000And they had one of them called Call a Cab.
02:37:54.000And you would drink it, and it was like, I drank one on stage once, and by the end of the show, I was like, thank God the show ended the way it did, because I forgot how to talk.
02:39:43.000And what he would do is he would just unzip his pants, pull his sack out, and then just have only his sack hanging out while he was on stage.
02:39:50.000Who did it at the store where there was someone on stage?
02:41:59.000Yeah, well, how about guys who are addicted to, they hire women to gag them and shit on them and kick them in the balls and sometimes like really powerful men.
02:42:28.000I got all the guilt and hitting and somehow I managed to avoid that kind of shit.
02:42:33.000I think that is- Not that I don't have weird shit, but- That's some mommy shit and the whole pantyhose and beating you and kicking you in the balls.
02:42:41.000It's like, There's obviously a spectrum of pathologies that people can develop in their life.
02:42:47.000And there's probably a lot of mental illness involved in there and violence and abuse.
02:42:51.000But apparently there's a woman that I talked to who's a dominatrix.
02:42:55.000And she was telling me and Jim Norton.
02:43:00.000And she was saying most of her clients are like these wealthy CEOs, and they run these companies, and they're the fucking man, and when they walk in, oh, Mr. Wilson's here.
02:43:09.000Hello, Mr. Wilson, can I get you a cup of coffee?
02:43:11.000And everyone's kissing their ass, and they want someone to shit on them, like literally shit on them.
02:43:14.000They want someone to tie them up, and she would say that those are the guys.
02:46:10.000Yeah, but we're in denial of that because we work in these environments where men and women are side by side, 40 hours a week, and everybody's under a human resources fucking tight grip of behavior, and so everybody has to act weird, and then men don't want their women mad at them,
02:46:26.000so they have to pretend that, yeah, these guys are assholes.