Joe Rogan Experience #1440 - Fortune Feimster
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2 hours and 50 minutes
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192.77745
Summary
In this episode, the guys talk about Tom Segura's new comedy special, UFC 246, and the crazy things that go on in the world of the UFC. Also, we talk about the UFC and what happens when a woman gets her head kicked in the face by a man who doesn't know how to speak English. We also talk about how the UFC is changing the way we think about women in the UFC, and why we don't want to get punched in the head by a woman who's got a " Frankenstein's forehead". And of course, we discuss the UFC 246 and the craziness that went on in UFC 246! Don't miss this episode of the pod, it's a must listen! Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends and family about this episode to let them know what's going on in your world! Thank you so much for listening and supporting the pod! Cheers! -Jon Sorrentino and Matt Beloved, Tim Ferraro Jon & Matt Tim Ben Mike Chris Jack Jake John Dan Joe Chad Michael Josh Will Corey Justin Christian David Luke Jordan Sam Matthew Alex Brandon Andrew Daniel James Nick Kacz Jacob Kevin Tom Evan Ryan ( ) Canelo Brian Cody Conor Chacho Ian Chey Jaden , and much more! We love you guys, thank you for checking us out! Can't wait to hear from you guys! Thanks for listening to the pod Thank y all for tuning in, we really appreciate you guys for your support and support us out, we appreciate you, you're a lot, we love you, y all so much, so much love ya back, yooooOOO! ! - Thank you, thank ya, bye, bye! Love ya, JUICY, JORDY, YA'LLYA, JOSEPH, MRS. -JOSH & KAREN CHEERY, RYAN, JOSH & JOSH & JOSIE
Transcript
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Well, there's a lot of specials coming out right now.
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God damn, is this the craziest time ever for specials?
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Yeah, it's like one after another after another.
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I can't remember ever in the history of comedy that there's been this many specials released.
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Netflix is a joke on Instagram, has a copy of it.
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Oh, because he's doing English and Spanish, right?
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Yeah, this one's just English, and he's going to do one in Spanish.
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People don't know that Tom Segura is fluent in Espanol.
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He had his mom on his podcast, and that was cool.
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Sometimes Mexicans will talk shit around him and he'll just look at them and then say something in Spanish and they're like, oh no.
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And by the way, they color corrected it because it was way worse than that before.
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It looks like he kissed Christina and then went out to do the show.
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They put lipstick on him and they put white makeup all over his face.
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I had that happen once because you really can't tell when they're putting it on.
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Someone made me look like the marionette doll with the big red rosy cheeks and I was hosting an award show and the whole speech is online.
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It's so crazy because you let someone dictate what your image is going to be.
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Someone that really has no business doing that.
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They just do makeup and when someone does makeup they want to do makeup.
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I'm the only one in the UFC broadcast that doesn't put makeup on, too.
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And I'm like, we're talking to people that are getting their heads punched in.
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Okay, literally, Ioana Jacek, who's the former strawweight champion, She had a fight with this woman, Zhang Weili, who is the strawweight champion from China.
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It's crazy, epic, like one of the best fights in history.
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At the end of it, Ioana's head was like a Frankenstein forehead.
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Now imagine me with makeup on standing next to her.
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They're like, well, we're just gonna cut down the shine.
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She hasn't taken, and that's what she looks like normally.
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That lady is as tough as human beings can possibly be.
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Her fucking forehead's twice the size of normal.
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The whole fight was like back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.
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Are you guys super bummed out when people throw one punch and the person falls down and that's it?
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There was a recent fight where Donald Cerrone fought Conor McGregor.
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In the clinch, Conor McGregor slammed his shoulder into Donald's nose and broke his nose.
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So they came out of the clinch, like seconds into the fight, his nose is bleeding.
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And then he got head kicked and he got pummeled and they stopped the fight in 40 seconds.
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Yeah, and everybody was bummed out because it was this huge pay-per-view event, this big deal, but that's part of what's crazy about this sport is that it's the fighting in either boxing, kickboxing, or MMA is the only sport where you can end it early.
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We've had fights that have ended, I think, Well, who's got the record now?
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It was like eight seconds, but it was like four or five.
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I think they said it's five, but I think it's three.
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So that was just one fight out of many, many, many, many fights.
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No one's ever invited me, and I'm not proactive enough to be like, let me get some tickets.
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We're like, hey guys, we're here to see a fight.
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Maybe he showed up with Hannibal one time a long time ago, but I can't remember.
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Every comic that comes to the show is like, why are you waking up this early?
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Because we're all doing spots so late, you know?
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Just a whole idea of, like, it has to be on at 8 a.m., ready, go!
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You know, 7 to 9 every morning, Monday through Thursday.
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We only know that people are listening because they call in.
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Just talking to mics, you hope there's an audience.
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It would be kind of fun to do a show where no one could record it, and it just goes out live, and there's no recording it at all.
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That was one of the fun things about the Howard Stern Show back in the day, because it was so crazy for radio.
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But you were hearing this, and this is the only time you were ever going to hear it.
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I remember when his show was on the E! Channel.
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She was one of the first, like, I mean, if Instagram was around, she would have been one of the first Insta-hoes.
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Everyone was following her life and her lawyer.
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So they had two Howard Stearns on the E channel.
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And that was post-divorce after her husband, well, not divorce, he died.
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He was like 95 years old in a wheelchair, and she was a fucking bombshell.
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Yeah, they were trying to keep the money from her.
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And my joke was, you know, like, don't you think he's a tad crafty?
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But, like, two kids or however many kids he has, they don't need a billion dollars.
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That's one weird thing that happens to old people.
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I think I'm going to get my ears reduced when I hit 150. Oh, really?
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My plan's about 150, 160. I'm going to die on the operating table, get my ears reduced.
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We had a guy on yesterday talking about the coronavirus.
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Well, because, you know, you don't really know what's coming.
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There's a whole bunch of other diseases that we discussed, too, like chronic wasting disease.
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There's a lot of shit that's on the table that could happen to people.
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Well, aren't there, like, because certain things are melting, certain diseases that are sort of, like, being uncovered from...
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Yeah, there's a theory that the permafrost is going to release when it gets melted.
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It's going to release some ancient bacteria that we don't have an immunity to.
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There's something that happens with any time you have overpopulation.
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And one of the things that happens is nature starts to try to course correct.
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It's not a coincidence that this disease came out of China, which is heavily overpopulated.
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He was talking to us in depth about these wet markets that they have in China, where they have all these animals that they sell, and they're all just laying around.
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He said there was chickens, and what was above the chickens?
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They were like dropping their shit on them or something.
00:10:48.000
And there was some weird combination with that.
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And he was saying like with crossover diseases, that's like a test tube.
00:10:56.000
But he's like the perfect test tube, perfect environment for creating a new disease.
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Bats is what you eat when you're starving to death.
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Well, China, again, has a fucking billion people.
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And when you see the stuff that they're eating over there, there was a salamander that they had that was like...
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And they got the wing spread to let you know it's a good one.
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In America, if we had bats that big, we'd whack them.
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Clearly, they're popular because that's a lot of bats for sale.
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Imagine if they were like the size of a horse flying around.
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I like how when they die their mouths are open like they're still trying to bite you.
00:13:08.000
Yeah, I just typed in bats in the wet market so we could see what it looked like.
00:13:14.000
My dog threw up in my car today, and I caught it in a coffee cup.
00:13:19.000
Well, he was sitting in the front seat, and sometimes he gets sick, especially when he just eats.
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They start moving, and I just put a coffee cup right where his mouth is while I was driving.
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Yeah, I have a little dog who will just throw up out of nowhere.
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We always grab them and pull them off the couch.
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Well, when you're driving, you know, the fortunate thing is he's sitting right next to me in the front seat.
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Just wants to hang out with you and give you kisses and go on walks and shit.
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Oh, those are cute little dogs, but they're a little yappy.
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And then the other one's a terrier chihuahua mix.
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Well, they're good guards in that they let you know something's up.
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And I went to, randomly, Luke Bryan's house and shot guns for the first time.
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I went to a charity event they had at their house, and it's so nice.
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I didn't get to do that, but then they had some rifle shooting.
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While you're at work, she's out there shooting.
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If you see me on Dateline, you heard it here first.
00:16:05.000
She's got a Punisher t-shirt hidden away in her closet.
00:16:08.000
But, you know, I would want to learn the gun safety, how to use it better.
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I mean, they could teach you that in just a few minutes.
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Don't ever point it at somebody, even when it's not loaded.
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That's where, when you hear about people doing really stupid things, it's just, that's what it is.
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Was that some Instagrammer or TikTok or some guy shot his fucking computer accidentally?
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He thought it was unloaded and he pulled a trigger on his computer and fucking shot around through his computer.
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It's like video taming him and then disappears.
00:17:11.000
Sometimes when you hit that video to play on Twitter, it doesn't play the first time.
00:17:39.000
It went right through his computer screen, I think.
00:17:57.000
Yeah, you can't get fined if you shoot an intruder.
00:18:02.000
If you shoot your computer, even if you shoot a person, like in Texas, you can kind of, you can shoot, I remember a story where a guy was repoing a guy's car.
00:18:13.000
A guy hadn't made payments on his truck, I believe.
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And the repo guy was opening up the door, and you know, with the Slim Jim and getting into his car, and the guy reached out the window with a rifle and shot the guy in his driveway.
00:18:28.000
Yeah, they said someone was breaking into your car, as far as you knew.
00:18:35.000
But then you hear stories about people getting sued, like if they shoot somebody that was trying to break into their house.
00:18:48.000
Somebody's breaking into your house, you're kind of, you know, backs against the wall.
00:18:53.000
Well, you're supposed to assume that they're not going to hurt you.
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When they've already made the commitment to enter your home by force, they're already doing something insanely risky.
00:19:05.000
The idea that you're supposed to somehow or another warn them as much as you can.
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What if it's a teenage kid that doesn't know any better and they're just stupid and they're with their friends and they think it's funny to rob someone's house?
00:19:32.000
It's horrible that people have guns and they can just shoot you and kill you.
00:19:37.000
But it's also horrible if you can't have a gun to protect yourself from someone who wants to kill you.
00:19:42.000
If no one had guns, the world would be a way better place.
00:19:52.000
Yeah, guys like the Mountain from the Game of Thrones, he would just be the king of the world.
00:20:01.000
Before people figured out sticks and spears and rocks and stuff, the biggest humans just fucking ran shit.
00:20:09.000
Like, that motherfucker, when he gets close, it's a problem.
00:20:11.000
Well, if he's on the way, on the way to me, I'm gonna fucking whack him.
00:20:41.000
Never runs out of arrows and he never gets a pass through.
00:20:43.000
It's been like 60 years he's been in the zombie apocalypse.
00:20:47.000
These zombies are so soft, you could walk up to them, stab them in the skull, and your knife will go through their skull.
00:21:02.000
You have to be really fucking strong, and you gotta hit a good spot.
00:21:07.000
But he just goes right through him with that stupid arrow, but then it never passes through.
00:21:17.000
Not only that, he doesn't even have broadheads on him.
00:21:21.000
Those tips on his arrow, they're like little tiny, they'll make a pencil hole.
00:21:38.000
It was a great show for the first two or three seasons.
00:21:41.000
I watched it up until Rick, the main guy, left.
00:21:48.000
Yeah, when they killed Glenn, I was like, I'm done.
00:21:55.000
You guys got no respect for your main characters.
00:22:05.000
I want to say it was out of UFC. He might have been out of UFC. In the crowd.
00:22:13.000
Like he was bummed out about his character getting killed that way?
00:22:16.000
I mean, can you imagine if you're on a show and you're one of the big players on the show?
00:22:21.000
I mean, he was one of the main guys and one of the more interesting guys and he's on the show for five six years or whatever it was and then one day they just Baseball bat you.
00:22:33.000
So not only does this new guy on the show who's getting all the heat, but now he baseball bats you to death.
00:22:39.000
And then you're just out there in public and probably people are like mocking you on social media.
00:22:43.000
If you're not smart, you read that shit and you feel all bummed out.
00:23:18.000
Yeah, Josh was on the podcast like early on the show.
00:23:23.000
And we're like, dude, I can't believe you're on the fucking Walking Dead.
00:23:40.000
And then we went, we got in there early because we had to do radio back then.
00:23:46.000
And I said, hey man, you want to work with us all week?
00:24:14.000
If they ever do a Bill Hicks movie, especially with that haircut that they gave him.
00:24:20.000
But he kind of went off the radar a little bit because, you know, the fans are so fanatical that it was just like a lot on Instagram and social media and it was too much and he just went off all that stuff.
00:24:40.000
Once you start doing the fucking improv again, you're going to need that shit.
00:24:44.000
Unless he just decided he's going to be an actor now.
00:24:46.000
Yeah, he might, because he really loves the acting.
00:24:47.000
But I remember he couldn't tell anybody that he had gotten the show.
00:24:55.000
I mean, not that I'm one to criticize someone's hair, but I'm like, dude, what are you doing?
00:25:22.000
They might put some pieces, but he grew it out and dyed it dark.
00:25:27.000
And then I was at a wedding with him when the announcement came out.
00:26:06.000
I want to say like Heather Cut or something like that.
00:26:16.000
Anytime a guy would show up with a gold chain, you're like, what are you up to?
00:26:25.000
There's something about white dudes with more than one gold chain that's really atrocious.
00:26:37.000
It's like when guys out of nowhere start wearing a bunch of rings.
00:26:42.000
Like skull rings, those big pewter or silver rings.
00:26:48.000
Either you used to do that, and you don't anymore, or you just don't.
00:26:58.000
Yeah, when I first met Bourdain, he had a thumb ring.
00:27:05.000
And he's like, I'm too old for this thing, and he abandoned it.
00:27:12.000
I think it was kind of cool for a little bit, you know?
00:27:23.000
Yeah, but the thumb is like, what are you doing, stupid?
00:27:26.000
Or a pinky ring, like, what are you in the mafia?
00:27:31.000
Joey Diaz has an American Indian pinky ring that he wears, and you know why he wears it?
00:27:37.000
He put it on, and he gained weight, and it's stuck forever.
00:27:49.000
Because I always see him with that fucking ring on.
00:27:50.000
Now that everybody's having to wash their hands, maybe it'll slip off.
00:27:55.000
No, Michael Osterholm was saying it's not going to help you.
00:28:03.000
If you're close to people and they're breathing on you, you're going to get it.
00:28:06.000
If you touch things, you're going to get it too, though.
00:28:10.000
I mean, maybe it'll help a little bit if you wash your hands a lot.
00:28:13.000
But it's, you know, crowded places is where it's gonna be an issue.
00:28:16.000
Pearl Jam apparently just canceled all their gigs.
00:28:21.000
And they were playing Madison motherfucking Square Garden.
00:28:26.000
I know my tour is starting and I'm like, really?
00:28:31.000
I've been on these text threads with all my friends and like, are you canceling any dates?
00:28:36.000
Like, comic-wise, no one's canceled, I don't think.
00:28:39.000
Like, I haven't seen comics canceling, so maybe everybody's kind of waiting to see.
00:28:46.000
Once one goes, you're like, oh, here goes another one, here goes another one.
00:28:50.000
Like, South by Southwest, kind of, I felt like, is going to have a ripple effect.
00:28:55.000
They're saying Coachella's going to be October?
00:29:02.000
He said that they should postpone Coachella until it stops sucking.
00:29:21.000
No, that's Jaden Smith flew a Model X over the crowd.
00:29:39.000
People know that Elon Musk is reading his tweets.
00:29:53.000
Maybe he just hires people to do all the stuff now.
00:29:58.000
When the Model 3 production was underway, he was telling me that he was working 16 hours a day.
00:30:06.000
Maybe he gives himself a little bit of a break and then he goes on tweet storms.
00:30:12.000
His tweets have cost him millions of dollars, and he's still tweeting.
00:30:18.000
When you have a lot of money, you're just like, whatever.
00:30:24.000
Yeah, when he wrote Tesla stock selling private at 420 or secured at 420, like as a joke.
00:30:32.000
He's got like weird 420 jokes, but he doesn't even smoke weed.
00:30:35.000
Like when he smoked weed on my podcast, he barely inhaled.
00:30:39.000
Yeah, I don't think he really smokes weed, but he makes a lot of 420 jokes.
00:30:43.000
Maybe he smokes weed on the sneak tip and just didn't want it in front of everybody, so he just didn't want to be rude because I was offering, so he just took a little bit.
00:30:59.000
Yeah, because I wouldn't know what to talk with him about.
00:31:05.000
Like when he's sitting down there talking like me.
00:31:15.000
I have like a peripheral knowledge, a cursory understanding of many things.
00:31:22.000
It seems like you remember a lot of the things that you do read.
00:31:30.000
Because I'll read things and it'll go, you know, I'll be like, oh yeah, I read that book.
00:31:35.000
I couldn't tell you what I read like a year later.
00:31:40.000
I only have a memory for things that I think are interesting.
00:31:43.000
If I think something's interesting, I remember it.
00:31:45.000
But if my wife tells me some shit, I don't give a fuck.
00:31:50.000
And she'll say it again, and I'll go, what are you talking about?
00:32:11.000
It works well for memorizing scripts, though, for the short-term memory.
00:32:22.000
Well, I feel like as stand-ups, we have to have a memory.
00:32:28.000
Yeah, and the only reason I'm able to remember my set is because it's so much repetition.
00:32:33.000
Some people bring notes on stage, but I always find that to be a big distraction.
00:32:38.000
Like, I feel like, like, Bill Maher brings a fucking, like, a concert pianist's, like, one of those stands, you know, one of those things?
00:32:46.000
Yeah, and he, like, looks at the notes and, like, passes over them.
00:32:49.000
Like, if you're in a choir, like, yeah, I gotcha.
00:32:56.000
I have brought notes on stage, and as soon as I start talking, I put it down and never look at it.
00:33:03.000
Because it feels odd to stop the rhythm, to be like, let me see what my notes are.
00:33:10.000
You're like, just go with it and see what happens.
00:33:12.000
Well, if you have new shit you're working on, then I understand it.
00:33:15.000
Then, like, I've seen guys go on stage and they have new shit.
00:33:18.000
But sometimes people go on stage with notes just to let you know they're working on new stuff.
00:33:29.000
I just flat out tell them, I don't have a punchline to this.
00:33:33.000
I'm going to make you go on this five-minute journey, and then it's going to peter out.
00:33:38.000
Does you feel like sometimes that's how you find the punchline?
00:33:45.000
And they legitimately, like, three dudes raised their hand.
00:33:58.000
I'm doing that show tonight at the store, Stand Up on the Spot.
00:34:06.000
Well, it used to be called Thunder Pussy, which is a way better name.
00:34:08.000
And it actually is something that I used to do at the end of my shows.
00:34:12.000
At the end of my shows, I used to do a Q&A, and I stole that from Jerry Seinfeld.
00:34:16.000
Before I ever did comedy, I was like 19. I took my girlfriend to see Jerry Seinfeld at the Paradise in Boston.
00:34:24.000
And at the end of the show, he gets requests from the audience.
00:34:50.000
And then afterwards, he actually says, thank you very much, thank you very much.
00:34:54.000
And then he says, I'm going to take some questions from the crowd, you know, if you have any questions.
00:35:00.000
And then some guy says, how do you feel about the big dig?
00:35:03.000
Because there's this big thing going on in Boston when they were digging tunnels.
00:35:06.000
And he went on this whole impromptu, improvised rant on the big dig.
00:35:11.000
And then someone yelled out something about something.
00:35:13.000
It's like, that is a great way to come up with material.
00:35:22.000
So I do an hour of stand-up and then an hour of that nonsense.
00:35:29.000
Well, because sometimes in that you can find some real gold, and then other times it's just like no one cares.
00:35:55.000
I'll find punchlines on stage, but I have to know where I'm going.
00:36:05.000
It was my day job while I was pursuing comedy at night.
00:36:12.000
I was the student speaker at my college graduation, and this actress was a commencement speaker, and she hired me to come out to LA and be her assistant.
00:36:24.000
And her neighbor wrote for the LA Daily News, and she's like, I heard you're a good writer from your speech in college.
00:36:49.000
So I was going to movie premieres or the Grammys, Oscars, Emmys.
00:36:54.000
I talked to celebrities on the phone and would write stories.
00:37:07.000
So I was getting to learn all this stuff about the business.
00:37:10.000
Were you trying to make them funny or were you just laying it out?
00:37:24.000
So I wrote all day from like 9 to 6. And then I would do events at night.
00:37:31.000
And then I started doing comedy like two years into that.
00:37:38.000
Wow, so you would write all day and then do comedy at night.
00:37:41.000
So while you were writing, would you say, ooh, this could be funny, and then set it aside?
00:37:45.000
Yeah, well, I always was requesting to go to funny movies.
00:37:56.000
I was like, oh, can I go to set and interview all the comics?
00:38:02.000
Knowing that I love comedy, but I was never that person like, I do comedy, because I'm brand new in stand-up.
00:38:08.000
But it was more of just like, it taught me the skill of just getting to the story faster.
00:38:13.000
Like, what's the interesting part of this interview?
00:38:18.000
And getting to that helped me just be a better writer.
00:38:22.000
Yeah, that's a great skill to have when you're crafting bits.
00:38:25.000
Well, I never knew when I started stand-up that it would be so much writing.
00:38:31.000
Obviously, now that I'm a stand-up, I'm like, duh, you have to have material.
00:38:35.000
But going into it, you just don't realize the content that you need to create.
00:38:39.000
Well, there's a big mistake that many comics make where they do just write on stage.
00:38:43.000
And then they have these sort of rambling intros to a bit or a bit...
00:38:48.000
Maybe they have something there, but they don't sit down in front of a computer for hours and just try to pick it apart and try to find the best way to do it.
00:38:58.000
But if they did that, they would cut down on the process of creating that bit.
00:39:04.000
Some guys are just great at figuring out how to shorten things up and get to the point really quick, but some people are not.
00:39:12.000
And they get comfortable with kind of half-assing it.
00:39:15.000
And then they stick to that form through the entire bit.
00:39:18.000
And you'll see the bit and you're like, hey man, that bit would be so much better if you chopped out like half of the words.
00:39:24.000
And I mean, I'm definitely more of a storyteller.
00:39:26.000
So that's why I like to sit down and write it because I'm not doing set up punchline, set up punchline.
00:39:32.000
I'm telling a story, but I'm trying to make it funny on the way there.
00:39:36.000
And so for me, I have to write because I have to see what it looks like because I'm like, oh, that sentence is really bland.
00:39:41.000
What like one word can I put in there that just you're like, oh, I see it now.
00:39:49.000
Instead of just being like, you know, a ball, you know, you're finding something more unique about it.
00:39:59.000
The one you could do is you could just do it on stage.
00:40:01.000
You could just fuck around on stage and you will come up with an act.
00:40:04.000
Or you can write in front of your computer or in front of a notebook and then you go on stage, you improvise on stage, and then you listen to your sets.
00:40:15.000
So you can fuck off on the other three and just go on stage.
00:40:19.000
If you're a good comic and you can figure out how to develop and act that way.
00:40:22.000
But I really think you're doing yourself a disservice.
00:40:24.000
And comics come up with this bullshit like, oh, I write on stage.
00:40:30.000
I sit down and there's some of my best punchlines have come from sitting in front of the fucking computer.
00:40:39.000
I would stare at my computer for an hour until I find even if it's one sentence, that makes it better.
00:40:47.000
You could do a hundred sets and never change your bit.
00:40:51.000
But you could have one hour session in front of a computer where you're like, oh...
00:40:57.000
Because if you're just alone with nothing else and no distractions, and you can look at the stuff, it just makes sense that with focus and time, you can create better.
00:41:09.000
It just makes sense, so you can look at it better.
00:41:10.000
Yeah, and that's what I was doing when I was prepping for this Netflix special.
00:41:15.000
It was like, I don't know, 18 pages, something like that.
00:41:18.000
And then I was going on stage and working it out.
00:41:21.000
Taping it, listening to it, and then constantly moving this paragraph, moving this.
00:41:26.000
All of the work was done at the computer, moving it to where it needed to be.
00:41:33.000
Do you use a program or anything to move stuff around?
00:41:42.000
I like it a lot because what I do is I'll put all of the subjects on the left column.
00:41:50.000
And then when you click on each one, it'll be the whole bit.
00:41:57.000
I used to write in something called Write Room.
00:42:02.000
And the problem is with the Macs, their laptop keyboards suck.
00:42:07.000
You were saying there's something you discovered.
00:42:17.000
The keys are curved, so your fingers fit into them.
00:42:22.000
There's like 1.7 millimeters to, I think their maximum one is 2.2 millimeters, and the minimum is 1.5.
00:42:28.000
1.5 is probably as low as you really want to go.
00:42:31.000
Because anytime you get around 1, it's just not enough key travel.
00:42:42.000
Because you've made a tool that doesn't work as well.
00:42:48.000
They have that beautiful C shape that Lenovo has.
00:42:53.000
So your fingers, you know which key you're hitting.
00:43:00.000
My mom made me take keyboarding in high school.
00:43:24.000
You just have it updated at night or something.
00:43:29.000
Well, especially if you're spending so much time riding on something like that.
00:43:33.000
If you're just surfing the net, it's like, eh, I see, whatever.
00:43:37.000
I have this ThinkPad X1 Carbon, and it fucking weighs nothing.
00:43:43.000
On the road, I'm always like, my book bag is like, oh my gosh.
00:43:52.000
It's heavy and then you have that big old power strip.
00:43:55.000
Yeah, but that I could fuck somebody up with that if they're trying to mug me.
00:43:58.000
If you have a bag with a 17-inch laptop in, that's like a bomb.
00:44:03.000
But that's actually the reason why I have that one because the key travel was different back then.
00:44:08.000
The key travel is actually pretty good on that.
00:44:12.000
But once they started trying to make them thinner and lighter, they fucked up.
00:44:17.000
So it's like my little fat fingers are like Kitty P. It's hard.
00:44:22.000
And it changed something recently where it's like I'm writing words and it's changing it for me.
00:44:48.000
But it's like the craziest words that no one's ever going to use.
00:44:59.000
At some point, they need to embrace that people are saying fucking.
00:45:02.000
Well, why don't they have, like, a way you can click on it and say, learn?
00:45:06.000
Like, maybe old people don't want you suggesting fucking.
00:45:10.000
Or, you know, hardcore Christians or something like that.
00:45:13.000
But if you're a person who says fuck all the time, you should be able to autocorrect to fuck.
00:45:19.000
Once you've used it enough, it should be like, all right, this is a standard word.
00:45:28.000
My partner is an Android, but I've never asked.
00:45:38.000
Partner is always like, are you guys in business?
00:45:47.000
But I think because people couldn't get married for so long, it was like they couldn't say wife or husband.
00:46:00.000
Just standard words that we just use over and over again.
00:46:27.000
A friend of mine used it and he was talking about his wife.
00:46:39.000
Well, it's like people who are progressive, they try to use words that gay and lesbian people use.
00:46:46.000
And they try to use it almost as like they're an ally.
00:47:01.000
We've been engaged for over two years, but it's weird to be like, this is my fiancé.
00:47:18.000
I mean, we are getting married, but we are like, just neither of us are planners.
00:47:23.000
You should be able to say it the week before the wedding.
00:47:26.000
My fiance and I. The week before you could say it.
00:47:31.000
So if you come up with a better word for me, let me know.
00:47:33.000
One good thing about fiance is that it's gender neutral.
00:47:39.000
It's just spelled differently, but no one really cares about that.
00:47:43.000
Whereas I read in some country they have a marriage contract that lasts a certain amount of time.
00:47:54.000
It was like a five-year contract with an ability to renew.
00:48:10.000
Anna Nicole Smith's husband would have loved that.
00:48:23.000
In a case like the Anna Nicole Smith situation, that kind of situation is weird when one person has the money and you can tell the other person is only with them for the money.
00:48:36.000
And they're trying to talk them into signing a contract and then they'll eventually leave them.
00:49:05.000
Watching it on the outside, we're like, that poor bastard.
00:49:09.000
Because then your friend's like, well, what's wrong with me?
00:49:21.000
The moment I saw the two, I was like, oh, he's got money.
00:49:37.000
Yeah, she was looking around for other dick, too.
00:49:46.000
Being a prostitute's illegal, but being a gold digger's fine.
00:49:50.000
Like, you should go to jail for being a gold digger.
00:49:51.000
And what's the difference, you know what I mean?
00:50:00.000
Like, do you remember Donald Sterling, the guy who owned the Clippers, the other really hot girlfriend?
00:50:19.000
I had a whole bit about it because it's really funny.
00:50:21.000
What he said was, he goes, I don't care if you fuck these guys, just don't take pictures with them.
00:50:29.000
See, everybody, like, it was a virtue signaling opportunity for everybody to make sure that everyone knew that they were not racist and that they abhor racism.
00:50:41.000
He said, I don't care if you fuck these guys, just don't take pictures with them.
00:50:52.000
I don't care if you take pictures with them, just don't fuck them.
00:51:01.000
He's saying, I don't care if you fuck these guys.
00:51:08.000
Everybody would be like, well, that's reasonable.
00:51:09.000
If he said, you know, just take pictures all day, but don't fuck them.
00:51:13.000
That would be like a standard thing that someone would ask of a spouse.
00:51:16.000
I mean, most spouses don't want you fucking other people.
00:51:28.000
There's guys that want guys to fuck their girl.
00:51:31.000
Oh yeah, because there is like a masochist or something like that?
00:51:47.000
And the origin of the term is like a man who knows his wife is fucking other guys.
00:51:52.000
And either approves of it or likes the feeling of shame.
00:51:56.000
There's some men that like the feeling of shame and humiliation.
00:52:08.000
But isn't it weird how it does take all types of people to run this world?
00:52:16.000
When it comes to sex stuff, people are all over the spectrum.
00:52:26.000
There's a lot of CEOs that like to hire dominatrix to tell them what to do and kick them in the balls.
00:52:32.000
It's the only person that will talk to them like that.
00:52:36.000
They like women to spit on them and stuff and piss on them and just treat them like shit.
00:52:42.000
I'll tell you this, I don't want to be pissed on.
00:52:52.000
I was like, I'm going to just be in pain for the next two hours.
00:53:03.000
Why do you have to go straight to pissing on my foot?
00:53:09.000
We were snorkeling, and then we got near this reef, and I wanted to put my feet down, catch a little break, and I just went right onto a sea urchin.
00:53:18.000
Well, I attempted to surf in Hawaii, and I couldn't even get my board past the break, and so it kept pumping.
00:53:29.000
And I got so tired of just like, I had no upper body strength.
00:53:34.000
I stood up and immediately like stood on the sea urchin.
00:53:40.000
They don't want to get eaten because they're delicious.
00:54:19.000
I think I'm just coming up with excuses not to eat fruit.
00:54:31.000
It's different because it's not like that hard...
00:54:35.000
Something about the hard, crunchy thing I don't like.
00:54:50.000
That's what you do when you become a super baller.
00:54:52.000
You're flying around in private jets, get your toes done.
00:55:40.000
But I think once I got with my fiancée, she's very skinny.
00:55:46.000
She's very skinny and she comes from a healthy family.
00:55:48.000
And did she ever, like, bitch, you're crushing me?
00:55:57.000
She just was like, you know, we were like in love and it was new.
00:56:02.000
We were eating like 10 course meals all the time.
00:56:04.000
You know, you're just like, then you're just like...
00:56:17.000
But we both just like, we got engaged and saw our engagement photos and we were like, oh shit.
00:56:25.000
Like, there's no joy in looking at our engagement photos.
00:56:32.000
We did that Whole30 thing, you know what that is?
00:56:35.000
It's, like, for 30 days, it's an elimination diet.
00:56:38.000
It's, like, no sugar, no dairy, no gluten, soy, all that stuff, no alcohol.
00:56:44.000
And it really, like, made me, for the first time, start reading labels.
00:56:50.000
Chemicals are in foods and it's basically eating whole foods like meat and vegetables basically for a month.
00:57:00.000
Kept it off and then did another round like six months later lost another like 18-20 and I kept it off for a while and it's like over the holidays like Seven pounds or so creep back in.
00:57:14.000
Yeah, but at least I'm like, we're trying to go hiking together.
00:57:25.000
And I just never really learned that nutrition thing, you know?
00:57:30.000
And when you're poor, all the, you know, the worst foods for you are like a dollar.
00:57:35.000
Yeah, isn't that amazing that poor people are fat in this country?
00:57:38.000
This is the only time in history where poor people are overweight.
00:57:42.000
In the past, I mean, look at photos from the 1920s when people were poor.
00:57:51.000
Yeah, so, you know, it's like when you don't have a lot of money, you do tend to go to, like, the fast food places, the food that's not good for you.
00:57:59.000
So I'm almost, like, having to retrain myself and my brain as an adult.
00:58:12.000
Like if you can get like three egg McMuffins and just take away the bread and just eat the ham and the egg.
00:58:26.000
It's really the yellow of the yolk looks like your legal pad.
00:58:33.000
I used to have chickens, but the coyotes killed them all.
00:58:45.000
When I would get them from the chickens that I raised because I'd let them roam around, but that's also how they got whacked.
00:58:51.000
We lost a bunch of them that way and then we lost more of them because they broke into the chicken coop and killed them all.
00:58:57.000
I buy them now from this organic company that lets their chickens free range and their dark, dark, healthy yolks.
00:59:04.000
You don't get that from McDonald's, unfortunately.
00:59:07.000
But you still get eggs, which are good for you, and ham, which is not bad for you.
00:59:13.000
Yeah, I think where I get messed up is the road.
00:59:17.000
The road's hard for me to, like, really maintain that.
00:59:22.000
I need, like, oh, you know, every day, we're gonna hike, we're gonna do this, we're gonna eat at home.
00:59:29.000
Oh, we're, you know, well, we gotta taste this delicacy from, I don't know, Detroit.
00:59:37.000
Well, actually, after shows is a real problem for everybody because you're tired.
00:59:43.000
And when you're tired, you make the worst food choices.
01:00:00.000
There's one of my favorite restaurants ever is in Montreal.
01:00:05.000
I've never been, but all the comics love that place.
01:00:08.000
And the guys, Fred and David, have been in here before.
01:00:41.000
So you thought you were getting a hamburger and they gave you raw horse meat?
01:00:45.000
They're like, listen bitch, I'll tell you what to eat.
01:00:59.000
It is interesting what we choose to eat and what we choose not to eat.
01:01:03.000
I went down a homesteading rabbit hole last night.
01:01:06.000
For whatever reason, you know, sometimes I go on these YouTube rabbit holes and last night I spent an hour watching videos of people who raise all of their own food in the homestead.
01:01:17.000
And this one guy was talking about rabbits, and he raises rabbits, and he has these rabbits in hutches, and then they keep them and eat them.
01:01:28.000
And he was like, two rabbits will give you 600 pounds of meat a year.
01:01:41.000
And then you mix them up and make them fuck them.
01:01:43.000
And they all fuck each other and they make more rabbits.
01:01:47.000
And the other thing that he was saying was the rabbit poop is like the best fertilizer on earth.
01:01:54.000
And you scatter the rabbit poop and also the birds...
01:01:57.000
Will actively peck at the rabbit poop and they will turn the rabbit poop.
01:02:17.000
He was homeschooling his children, you know, the whole deal.
01:02:20.000
Like, Jesus is coming back, and when he does, we're gonna give him rabbit meat.
01:02:29.000
I know those little kids, they try to intertwine with other kids at some point.
01:02:38.000
That's a rough spot for kids if they've been homeschooled and then one day they get out in the real world.
01:02:45.000
I mean, listen, if you want to homeschool, good for you.
01:02:48.000
I understand some people, you know, you could end up getting a much better education if you're a good homeschool teacher, but socialize your kids.
01:02:57.000
I knew this one kid that was socialized and his dad used to take him to jiu-jitsu and he was pretty talented, like pretty talented jiu-jitsu kid.
01:03:04.000
But he was just so socially awkward for someone his age.
01:03:08.000
Whereas other kids, I want to say like 16, 17 at the time, other 16, 17-year-old kids who would come to class, they'd be like kids.
01:03:15.000
They'd be having a good time, trying to learn, like, wow, this is cool.
01:03:23.000
We're out here in the world in his jiu-jitsu class and he seemed like a little shell-shocked to be around large groups of people, whereas kids that go to school, you're used to being around large groups of people.
01:03:35.000
There's a very valuable socializing aspect to school.
01:03:40.000
I mean, most people don't even learn anything in college.
01:03:43.000
They just learn how to be a cool person to hang out with.
01:03:49.000
Well, they do learn, but some people also learn how to push buttons.
01:03:57.000
They learn how to get people to think you're virtuous and how to be for the right causes and how to shame people that are for the wrong causes and how to try to...
01:04:06.000
Yeah, there's a lot of that going on in college, too.
01:04:08.000
But that's also part of being a young person, right?
01:04:11.000
You're young, you have these ideals, and you're trying to enforce them on other people.
01:04:14.000
Or you think you know more than everybody else.
01:04:19.000
When I go to college shows now, I'm like, oh, you guys are so young.
01:04:25.000
Like, here and there, it's Once in a Blue Moon.
01:04:29.000
Because, you know, those kids just, like, they don't know how to take things, like, they don't get the joke sometimes, you know what I mean?
01:04:41.000
Where you're like, hey, I was being sarcastic, you know?
01:05:03.000
I had a kid come up to me once and tell me that something was anti-Semitic.
01:05:12.000
It was like a little auditorium, not a big crowd.
01:05:27.000
And the guy comes up to me and goes, that joke was very anti-Semitic.
01:05:40.000
That may be a stereotype, but it's a positive stereotype.
01:05:55.000
It's a stereotype, but it's a positive stereotype.
01:05:57.000
But no one's been like, yo, Joe, don't say I have a big dick.
01:06:05.000
Yeah, because there's usually more people where that is true than not.
01:06:09.000
It's a stereotype, but it's a positive stereotype.
01:06:12.000
There's a difference between something that's discriminatory, like it's mean and nasty, and something that's just fun.
01:06:35.000
And I was like, how is that possibly anti-Semitic?
01:06:59.000
I'm taking up time just explaining the joke I just told.
01:07:05.000
Because there's nothing negative about it at all.
01:07:26.000
I've had fucking comedian, like older comedians in particular, say that.
01:07:30.000
So what kind of shit do you talk about on stage?
01:07:31.000
Like, well, I talk about the hierarchies and how we can dismantle them and separate people.
01:07:46.000
They'll be like, you can talk about me if you want.
01:07:54.000
People that think I'm going to talk about them on stage.
01:08:25.000
And, yeah, I wasn't there that night, but it was all the talk, obviously.
01:08:32.000
And just, you know, that was when, like, no one was coming to shows.
01:08:43.000
I felt like, damn, what if that shit place goes under?
01:08:58.000
Yeah, but back then it was like, I was like performing like four drunk dudes.
01:09:09.000
Just like all you guys coming back and doing sets all the time?
01:09:29.000
And I remember being there and going, wow, these people are fucking creative.
01:09:36.000
And I came back because, well, first of all, because Adam Egan and because Tommy got fired, the dipshit that was running it, but also because Ari was doing his comedy special there.
01:09:57.000
I was friends with him when he was a doorman at the store.
01:10:01.000
Now here he is doing his Comedy Central special there.
01:10:05.000
And so I went there the night before, which was a Tuesday.
01:10:09.000
I came to the night before and I saw Roast Battle and then hung out.
01:10:30.000
And then I saw Ari's set, and then I sat down with Pauly, made nice nights with Pauly, became buddies again.
01:10:40.000
And then when I came back, Joey came back I think a little bit before me.
01:10:44.000
I think Joey was back like maybe a month before I was, which helped me as well.
01:10:49.000
And then Duncan came back a little bit after that.
01:10:52.000
And then Adam, because everybody loves Adam, he opened the door to a bunch of comics that never worked the store before.
01:11:01.000
A lot of people thought it was like a gross place.
01:11:05.000
There was, like, you would walk down the hall and you could feel that sort of heaviness.
01:11:13.000
Well, that place has gone through weird peaks and valleys.
01:11:15.000
When I went there in 94, I first came here from Boston, or from New York, actually.
01:11:23.000
We would talk about it like, dude, that's where Kinison came from.
01:11:31.000
I mean, we would talk about it with hushed tones.
01:11:36.000
But then when I came here in 94, it was dog shit.
01:11:41.000
See, what happened was, Kinnison died in like 92. And when he died, there was a vacuum.
01:11:50.000
He left the store, I think, like a year or two before that.
01:11:58.000
And there was a wave when he was there where a bunch of people would come to see him and some of the other guys like you know Rick Duke come in and some you know there was Martin Lawrence was there and then well actually Martin Lawrence was there during the time during 94 when I was there yeah maybe like 95 or 96 but when I when I came back most of the nights you would be there like Monday Tuesday Wednesday it was like terrible half filled rooms yeah terrible acts People that should have quit comedy years ago,
01:12:27.000
They were getting spots, but they weren't working.
01:12:31.000
And they were working probably the same material.
01:12:45.000
I remember the first night I came there, I sat in the back of the room to watch a show.
01:12:51.000
Me and Jim Brewer, we're out here filming a pilot.
01:13:06.000
I mean, I'm sure he was there occasionally, but it wasn't like it is tonight, where any night you go there, you'll see...
01:13:11.000
Ron White, Chris D'Elia, Nick Swartz, and Whitney Cummings, fucking Anthony Jesselnik.
01:13:17.000
Ali Wong, just killer after killer after killer after killer.
01:13:30.000
Delia was just starting to do the OR. It was an interesting time.
01:13:37.000
Whitney was doing a lot of spots in OR. It was very cliquish.
01:13:45.000
I just started in the belly room and worked my way down.
01:13:49.000
It was cool, though, because it made you better.
01:13:54.000
I rarely did a show with more than 10 people in the audience.
01:14:05.000
Tommy didn't care if people were on TV. I remember Jordan Peele had just finished Mad TV. He, they put him up on, it was like that Bringer, not Bringer show, it was an open mic.
01:14:16.000
They let him do like three minutes on this open mic.
01:14:19.000
And he wasn't what he is now as far as like he had this huge hit movie.
01:14:25.000
But he would have been on MADtv for seven years.
01:14:39.000
And so I just kind of kept to myself and just kept doing jokes.
01:14:44.000
Well, Tommy should have never been in a position ever to tell anyone what to do.
01:14:48.000
And they let him do that because he was basically Mitzi's caretaker.
01:14:52.000
You know, along the way, he alienated a lot of people.
01:14:58.000
But I had, you know, I was lucky because early on, like, guys started seeing me perform in the belly room and they were the ones, because, you know, it was hard to get his ear.
01:15:07.000
You had to, like, get his ear to, like, let you showcase.
01:15:10.000
But, like, I remember Brett Ernst saw me at a show and he's like, you gotta, you gotta showcase.
01:15:19.000
So it was like dudes would like, you know, he would see Tommy and be like, you gotta let her showcase, you gotta let her showcase.
01:15:24.000
I always wondered if maybe he was like Jack Nicholson in The Shining, like in the Overlook Hotel.
01:15:31.000
Like maybe he was just vulnerable and dumb enough so that the ghost could get in his head.
01:15:58.000
Justin Martindale was the last person she passed.
01:16:07.000
So I got to do the belly room on Friday nights.
01:16:11.000
And then I was a non-paid regular for like six months and then I got past it.
01:16:17.000
I was a non-paid regular for like I think four or five months.
01:16:20.000
I was going on every night, late, late, late at night or going on after the show was over.
01:16:27.000
I got past three years in the stand-up, so I wasn't complaining.
01:16:41.000
Well, also, it's like you get used to the club.
01:16:48.000
But I was six years in a comedy when I came to L.A. Yeah.
01:16:52.000
And I remember the day I became a paid regular.
01:17:00.000
I was staying in the Oakwood Gardens apartments.
01:17:07.000
And I was laying in bed going, holy fuck, I'm a paid regular at the store.
01:17:20.000
And it was like, because I started an improv and sketch at the Groundlings.
01:17:26.000
Yeah, so I had like, even though I was newer to stand-up, I had that stage experience for a couple years before I started stand-up, which I felt helped me just get in the rhythm of stand-up right away.
01:17:37.000
And so I just kind of hit the ground running and...
01:17:40.000
You know, to me, one of my biggest accomplishments is being a paid regular and that I got it before I was on TV. Because sometimes, you know, I feel like that does help when you're like on TV. They're like, oh, they're, well, they're funny.
01:17:56.000
And so it made me feel like a real comic to get passed and not have any TV credits.
01:18:04.000
I mean, having any kind of performance experience is going to at least give you this comfortable feeling of performing and talking in front of people.
01:18:17.000
They say that's one of the most terrifying things that some people can do.
01:18:49.000
It's a good season, and it had gone away and come back, so it was kind of an experience.
01:18:56.000
Yeah, and so I did that, and I started The Road after that, but like shit gigs, you know?
01:19:06.000
It had been on, and it was more of a reality show with stand-up, and when they brought it back, it was just stand-up.
01:19:20.000
Yeah, for sure, because I was like, I don't want to live in a house with a bunch of stand-ups.
01:19:25.000
So, we just got to do stand-up, and then I started touring after that, and then...
01:19:30.000
2011, I got Chelsea Lately, and then I started...
01:19:42.000
He's always been so nice to me, and he'd always be like...
01:19:51.000
I just started touring and wasn't going in as much for a little bit.
01:19:58.000
But he's always like, you need to stop acting and just do stand-up.
01:20:16.000
I just didn't think that he would be into my comedy, you know?
01:20:22.000
Yeah, and he loves the art form, and he respects people that work hard at it and that are good at it.
01:20:31.000
And no matter all the success that he's had, I've known him forever.
01:20:39.000
Like, if you tell him that he's doing well, it's like, ah, a lot of people are doing well.
01:20:48.000
I mean, this is also a unique time in that comics are putting out all these specials, and the specials are better with each time.
01:20:55.000
Like, I think Paper Tiger was one of his best specials ever.
01:21:00.000
And it's hard to top yourself at his level, you know?
01:21:03.000
But that's the thing about the store that's so wonderful.
01:21:06.000
I hate to use that word because it makes me sound fake.
01:21:10.000
It's so amazing that there's so many people doing that.
01:21:13.000
And it's cool to be able to sit down and talk to the different people that are doing it in different ways.
01:21:20.000
Bill doesn't put himself on any kind of a cycle.
01:21:23.000
He just decides when it's time to do a special.
01:21:27.000
Whenever I want to do it, then I'll do a special.
01:21:44.000
Jeselnik is one of the hardest workers and one of the most clever writers in the business.
01:21:50.000
And his jokes are one of those jokes where you hear it and you go...
01:21:57.000
Well, because you don't see it coming, too, which is a real talent.
01:22:04.000
There's only so many people that can get away with that.
01:22:16.000
It's like if you're going to drive fast, you better be really good at driving.
01:22:21.000
If you're going to do dark comedy, you better be really good at crafting jokes.
01:22:35.000
There was a LA Times, I don't know what it was, they were interviewing Sebastian Maniscalco, and they came to the store to interview him, and they said that Jeselnik came in the room where he was being interviewed and just sat and stared at him to purposefully Make him uncomfortable.
01:22:58.000
And then he finally got to Sebastian and was like, okay, can you get out of here?
01:23:12.000
Well, that's the cool thing about comedy right now.
01:23:14.000
I mean, you've seen so many different iterations of it, but dudes are selling out arenas.
01:23:27.000
It was always the rock guys were here and the comics wanted to be them, and now all these guys are like...
01:23:34.000
Yeah, well, the difference is the rock guys have a fucking band and they have to get along with the band.
01:23:50.000
I'm going to plug in an amp and hear the feedback.
01:24:16.000
Joe's all showing his plane and Bert's showing his tour bus.
01:24:24.000
They're showing off their loads of transportation.
01:24:28.000
And I'm all like, I hope I get upgraded on American this weekend.
01:24:39.000
That's just, you're just begging to get stalked.
01:24:52.000
All of us, all of his friends are like, what are you doing, man?
01:24:55.000
But he's been that guy forever where he's just like, hey, I'm going to a bar after the show.
01:25:06.000
And in college, he was like the dude, the party guy.
01:25:09.000
He was the inspiration for that movie with Ryan Reynolds.
01:25:18.000
So a guy like I love him to death, he would have a bus with his face on it.
01:25:32.000
It's also, he's so grateful because he had this Travel Channel show.
01:25:40.000
And all of us, Bert was out there traveling and he's doing these shows and he's gone for months and months at a time.
01:25:49.000
And all of us, like Bill talked to him about it, I talked to him about it.
01:25:52.000
I remember I called him once and he was drunk on a motorcycle in Vietnam.
01:25:58.000
He said you were a big reason why he was like, I gotta stop doing this and get back to stand-up.
01:26:08.000
And you'll be at the beck and call of these people on the Travel Channel who want to censor you.
01:26:15.000
I mean, everything has to be squeaky clean down the middle.
01:26:18.000
I was friends with Bourdain, and he had real problems with the Travel Channel.
01:26:22.000
At the time, I think they were owned by very religious people.
01:26:36.000
I mean, he enjoyed being employed on television.
01:26:51.000
And I could do the store at night, but I was telling him, I'm like, listen, man, you won't be happy unless you have a career as a standup.
01:26:59.000
You're always going to see these guys, but you're going to drive by the improv, see these guys headlining.
01:27:15.000
Yeah, I mean, it's a direct result of him deciding to take that chance, and that's a hard chance to take when you have a family.
01:27:21.000
I'll tell you, that's one of the hardest things in this business is betting on yourself.
01:27:26.000
Because it's so hard to get stability in this business.
01:27:28.000
So when you get a taste of it, you're like, oh, I can't.
01:27:34.000
But you don't realize that the risk is greater.
01:27:36.000
You might fail, but the risk is if it works, it works like five times.
01:27:43.000
But that's a hard leap for a lot of people to take.
01:27:47.000
It's one of the reasons why I have so many jobs.
01:27:49.000
I don't want anybody to have any power over me.
01:28:04.000
And the more people that are in your ear talking to you about stuff and telling you what to do and what not to do and what you can get away with and not get away with, the more you're fucked.
01:28:12.000
It's like you're never going to find your best voice.
01:28:16.000
Because you're not being you at the end of the day.
01:28:19.000
You're compromising yourself for some company or you're compromising yourself because you want to get hired for the next job after this job is over.
01:28:27.000
But when you don't have a job and you're just an artist, then you just get to create the best comedy you can create.
01:28:34.000
And the podcast thing just sort of became like a support.
01:28:42.000
And then it became like a support mechanism, and then it became this, what it is now, which is just bizarre.
01:28:56.000
Yeah, I started after I got booted from the store.
01:29:07.000
But then my wife got pregnant when we were in the mountains.
01:29:11.000
And we got a house in the mountains, like 8,500 feet above sea level.
01:29:25.000
And what would be like the perfect antidote to big crowds?
01:29:32.000
When a woman gets pregnant at very high altitude, it's actually kind of dangerous.
01:29:39.000
Denver, which is only 5,500 feet, has a very high number of premature births.
01:29:52.000
People are not supposed to live up there, probably.
01:29:56.000
So we moved back, and when we moved back, I was like, all right.
01:30:01.000
And so me and Redband started doing just with a laptop answering questions.
01:30:07.000
Just like doing a live stream and answering questions to knuckleheads.
01:30:19.000
And then after a few months we decided to start uploading it to iTunes as an audio version of it.
01:30:33.000
Well, now you are not making decisions out of fear.
01:30:37.000
And that's where people really get bit in the ass.
01:30:51.000
When did you first realize fully you're making a living doing stand-up?
01:30:56.000
When did you go like, I don't need anything else?
01:31:00.000
I mean, like I said, I started touring in 2010, but it was like, you know, small clubs and...
01:31:20.000
Last Comic Standing and Chelsea, they came back to back.
01:31:24.000
Yeah, and so, because I had been at the store for three years just honing my material and I was doing sets all the time.
01:31:32.000
Last Comic Standing launched a lot of people, right?
01:31:42.000
Did Alonzo get launched from last time, Stanley?
01:31:45.000
Him and Kathleen Madigan, they did it early on.
01:31:55.000
But Gary Goldman was on that fucking Dane Cook thing.
01:32:04.000
Yeah, and so I wish I had middled, because I would have like, still to this day, I'm like, God, I'm so curious how other people do their shows, you know?
01:32:11.000
But I just sort of went from zero to 60, like, doing the story for three years.
01:32:24.000
I was headlining, but because of my improv background with Groundlings, I did a lot of crowd work.
01:32:30.000
Oh, well that's good for you for taking that chance.
01:32:35.000
So you were three years into your act and you were headlining on the road, off of television.
01:32:42.000
But, you know, I packed a lot into the first three years.
01:32:45.000
Because, you know, a lot of people, you're just trying to find stage time.
01:32:52.000
So for three years, I was doing like six nights, seven nights a week of multiple shows.
01:33:04.000
I did the show for Adam Barnhart for a year every Sunday night.
01:33:09.000
He would give me 10 minutes in brand new comic.
01:33:11.000
You know, that's huge when you're a brand new comic.
01:33:17.000
But like for as far as like a good set, it was like 30 minutes.
01:33:21.000
But then I would do the crowd work and I would sprinkle it in.
01:33:27.000
You know, turn out to be a decent 45-minute show.
01:33:43.000
And I was doing well at clubs the last couple years.
01:33:45.000
And then my Netflix special, Sweet and Salty, just came out.
01:33:49.000
And this is my first theater tour and it's been selling well.
01:33:53.000
So now I feel, I get to answer your question right now.
01:34:03.000
Listen, 13 years to get into a theater tour at 13 years is amazing.
01:34:12.000
My timeline's so all over the place that I don't know.
01:34:19.000
And, you know, that's the nice thing about the Netflix reach, you know.
01:34:24.000
Does anybody come up to you and go, I love Sirius.
01:34:37.000
I mean, I've done a lot of acting the last few years.
01:34:41.000
I did the Mindy Project for three seasons and some other things, a bunch of guest stars, some movies.
01:34:47.000
What kind of contract do you guys have for doing that serious thing?
01:34:51.000
I think we signed a year contract, and then it's kind of like we'll see it a year if everyone's happy.
01:35:02.000
And then the special, as far as stand-up, I mean, I feel like a lot of people, because they knew me from acting, didn't know I was a stand-up.
01:35:12.000
But stand-up's always been so important to me, and I was always on the road.
01:35:17.000
Even when I was acting, I was constantly headlining.
01:35:20.000
And I ran into Bill like a year ago on the road and he was like, what are you doing?
01:35:27.000
People don't know I've been headlining since 2010. I just don't talk about it.
01:35:32.000
And now that I had my special come out, it's really great.
01:35:51.000
Now, what do you do in terms of now that your special's out and then you're going to tour again?
01:36:06.000
So are you going to throw some of the old bits in there?
01:36:12.000
Nate Briazzi was like, you should do your new stuff, do as far as you can, and then throw in some classics, because people enjoy that.
01:36:21.000
They want new stuff, but then they like certain bits, and why not?
01:36:29.000
Gaffigan has to do his fucking Hot Pockets bit, or people blow a gasket.
01:36:35.000
Sebastian does a lot of his classic bits when he does The Road.
01:36:40.000
Yeah, so it's, you know, the challenge, as you know, is like, oh crap, now I gotta, like, what's my story that I want to tell next?
01:36:53.000
Well, that's, I mean, that's the beautiful thing about being a writer, right?
01:37:04.000
I will say that I did this weed dinner with Chelsea where we ate like a five course meal that was all cooked with weed.
01:37:12.000
And I, because I love food, ate every course and like cleaned the plate.
01:37:29.000
Some people go into a fucking K-hole if you give them that much weed.
01:37:38.000
But people to this day are like, that wee dinner was the funniest thing I've ever seen.
01:37:49.000
And then at the very end of the night, it was all fog.
01:38:02.000
And then opening the door to my house and then blank again.
01:38:08.000
I do remember thinking in my head, like, don't text anyone.
01:38:16.000
You don't know what you're going to say right now.
01:38:34.000
Yeah, because it did sort of open something in my head that let the silliness just run.
01:38:43.000
So I should do a little bit, you know, before I write.
01:39:12.000
I don't even know if I know how to smoke it right.
01:39:29.000
I don't even know if I know how to inhale right.
01:40:07.000
Like level six world champion and cheerleader and he's built like a tank.
01:40:20.000
I was like, listen, if you try it, try it with a friend and try a tiny bit.
01:40:32.000
Because I don't want you to have a bad experience.
01:41:11.000
Who's the biggest freak out we've ever had in here?
01:41:16.000
Like where they just start acting way different?
01:41:26.000
That weed they have is, I don't know, it's that good.
01:41:30.000
The stuff out here is like beyond, beyond, right?
01:41:34.000
Yeah, so we got barbecued before the podcast because I know he loves weed.
01:41:54.000
Yeah, because they weren't sure what they would say.
01:41:57.000
There was a tension to the fact that all these eyeballs were on you right now, currently.
01:42:10.000
The only person that ever gets me scared is Joey.
01:42:26.000
And he does it in front of you and he's laughing.
01:43:18.000
He wrote a book and I had him on with a doctor who was a cannabis enthusiast.
01:43:25.000
And one of the things that they talked about is How marijuana, to some people, can potentially induce schizophrenia.
01:43:41.000
So you think that happened to some of the people, Joey?
01:43:52.000
And for sure I think I know people that have done that and have lost their fucking minds.
01:44:00.000
But is it that star death stuff you're talking about?
01:44:03.000
Those and the chibichus that are even more strong.
01:44:12.000
I think once they went full legal, is that the case, Jamie?
01:44:20.000
So if you get gummy bears, you'll have 10 that are 10 milligrams, and that's 100. So you'd have to take two and a half bottles to equal one of the old ones.
01:44:37.000
They're not making these things in a lab right next door to a place where they're making microchips.
01:44:43.000
Some dude is cooking this shit up in some bullshit commercial kitchen that he got his friends to chip in money for.
01:44:53.000
I'm sure a lot of them are being made by giant businesses now.
01:44:58.000
But back in the day, especially, like right now I can't really speak of it.
01:45:03.000
But back in the day when you would first get edibles, you had no idea.
01:45:11.000
If you're a grower, you're like, bro, let me educate you.
01:45:15.000
The only ones that ever worked on me, I would just fall asleep.
01:45:19.000
I found out it was like a grandma making them in her house because she liked them.
01:45:23.000
And then she would sell her leftovers to this one particular dispensary.
01:45:49.000
It freaks him out and then he throws two more down.
01:45:57.000
He's like, I almost had a fucking panic attack.
01:46:05.000
He was so pumped about those pills that he gave me.
01:46:15.000
I love Josh Wolf's old stories about them coming up together in Seattle, I think.
01:46:29.000
The thing is this Berenson guy, Alex Berenson, who wrote this book, had a really good point.
01:46:35.000
Is that we think it's fine because it's fine for you.
01:46:40.000
But that doesn't seem to be the case for everybody.
01:46:42.000
Everybody has a different point they can go to.
01:46:45.000
I think people have different brain chemistry, right?
01:46:48.000
I think that's one of the reasons why some people have...
01:46:51.000
Depression run in their family, and we could all say, oh, hey, you just gotta suck it up.
01:46:57.000
Because we're built in a way where we can suck it up.
01:47:00.000
That's true, but also it's like, I don't know how your brain is working.
01:47:05.000
There's no thing, like, I could take your temperature, right?
01:47:08.000
And if your temperature is like 96, whatever the fuck it is, it's hot.
01:47:22.000
How come the float tank, they want it to be 94?
01:47:29.000
Yeah, as I say, your internal temperature is 98.6, but when you get to the outside, it's not probably the exact same.
01:47:45.000
It's like, so we could assume, oh, they just got to get their shit together.
01:47:50.000
Or it could be a thing like a, like some people are born with bad vision, right?
01:47:54.000
Why wouldn't we assume that that would be the case with mood too?
01:48:02.000
There's less of a feeling of joy, maybe an overwhelming sense of gloom just genetically.
01:48:07.000
We all know people who've just always been kind of down.
01:48:13.000
Now if you give certain people like that some medication, it can help them.
01:48:24.000
They're always trying to find things that work for you.
01:48:28.000
Like, if people are in a situation where—I know people that have been, like, really suicidal, and they got on some stuff, and it helped them a lot, and then they slowly weaned themselves off of it after they had improved their lives, and they found they didn't need it anymore.
01:48:51.000
But the goal is to get you feeling better than you feel.
01:48:55.000
But I feel like since some people need that and some people don't, it just makes sense that some people would interact with...
01:49:04.000
Whether it's alcohol or drugs or cocaine or amphetamines.
01:49:08.000
There's some people that get a taste of amphetamines and they can't get enough.
01:49:11.000
And then other people don't want to have nothing to do with that shit.
01:49:13.000
They're like, get that crazy fucking sauce away from me.
01:49:16.000
I don't want to be running around like a maniac.
01:49:21.000
But I wonder what it is about weed that can open some other portal to, like you said, the schizophrenia thing for some people.
01:49:31.000
Again, obviously I'm an idiot and I don't know anything about what I'm talking about, but I would imagine that what's going on is that some people have a tendency to lean towards mental illness anyway.
01:49:42.000
Maybe they're struggling a bit and then something comes along like a Big dose of edibles and it just knocks their already shaky cart off the trail.
01:49:55.000
It's a blowout event that their brain wasn't ready for.
01:50:00.000
And I think there's a bunch of mitigating factors, right?
01:50:03.000
I would like to know when do these people experience these bouts of schizophrenia?
01:50:11.000
Is it just something that genetically they're predisposed to?
01:50:16.000
But he was saying that it's possible, and we don't know what the numbers are, but some people might have real mental health episodes because of a high dose of weed.
01:50:32.000
The problem is, because it's been illegal for so long, they haven't funded adequate testing, right?
01:50:39.000
And it wasn't even legal to test on, I mean, for a long time, right?
01:50:44.000
It's like the federal government has to approve whether or not you can test on shit that's Schedule 1. Like, if you wanted to do some studies, and you wanted to do some studies on cocaine, and what it's like when people use cocaine, what's the effect of cocaine?
01:51:00.000
Why would we want to get to the bottom of what it does to you?
01:51:05.000
You might be right, because it's getting medical.
01:51:14.000
All the stuff that can get you to see God is Schedule 1. Hallucinogenic stuff.
01:51:25.000
Because morphine, don't they still use that shit in the hospital?
01:51:32.000
The fact they give you the ability to just juice yourself up.
01:51:40.000
Especially if you could feel sorry for yourself if you're in surgery.
01:51:47.000
Especially when you're just sitting there anyway.
01:51:56.000
It's like, I can do that and go, okay, I don't want to do that ever again.
01:52:01.000
And I don't think we should think of that as anything other than a chemical thing.
01:52:06.000
Seems like there's going to be behavioral things with people, right?
01:52:09.000
There's some people that are addicted to gambling, right?
01:52:10.000
It's not a chemical thing, but it still kind of is.
01:52:14.000
Yeah, I think all that behavioral shit, it all ties in together.
01:52:23.000
Well, it's really interesting to think how other people's brains work.
01:52:31.000
I can't imagine what it would be like looking through that guy's brain.
01:52:52.000
In the left brain and the right, there's the whole left brain, right brain thing, you know?
01:53:05.000
You know, there's a different part of your brains affect those.
01:53:11.000
I wonder if there's going to be a way to target those.
01:53:12.000
I bet there's going to be a way where they put something on your head, because the things they do for PTSD patients, they do this thing where they energize with magnets, some crazy magnetic thing in it.
01:53:28.000
It concentrates on a certain area of your brain where they feel you've been damaged.
01:53:34.000
And fighters and some people with injuries, CTE injuries from the war, they've gone to this.
01:53:43.000
It's near where the bases are down in San Diego.
01:53:54.000
I'm obviously butchering it, but somehow or another they're helping your brain heal itself.
01:54:00.000
When I hear something like that, I'm like, okay, what if you just juiced up the right side?
01:54:09.000
Yeah, nothing's wrong with it, but I just want you to juice the fuck out of it.
01:54:11.000
I'd like to be able to pass my math test today.
01:54:14.000
Imagine if they came up with a technology, if they came up with a technology that allows you to help your brain heal.
01:54:19.000
And I know this is stupid, and I know I'm not a biologist.
01:54:22.000
But if they came up with that and they can help use these super magnets or whatever it is, from the outside you're wearing like a helmet or something and it juices up your brain and helps your brain heal itself, why couldn't they make you smarter?
01:54:35.000
Could you fucking imagine if they just started using, like really rich people just started wearing those helmets all day and just juicing their brain up all day and their brain just keep getting bigger and their heads start growing?
01:54:50.000
The hot look used to be the bigger the person, like if a king wasn't fat, he wasn't attractive.
01:54:56.000
Kings wanted to look fat because that would mean you had all this wealth and all this prosperity.
01:55:02.000
And then people got skinny like, oh, this means you're fit.
01:55:07.000
Maybe one day the ideal is going to be a big old head.
01:55:15.000
I don't know much about even repairing your brain.
01:55:17.000
You always heard that once you mess it up, it's messed up.
01:55:23.000
I mean, there's for sure therapies that they're doing, but I think they're learning a bunch of different methods of how to help people heal from certain brain injuries.
01:55:42.000
Their whole body is like, you know, it affects everything.
01:55:46.000
It affects how you see things and think about things.
01:55:59.000
You know, you're like, you're juicing the pump station.
01:56:02.000
That's why I'm like, if you ride a motorcycle, put a helmet on.
01:56:09.000
Have you ever seen the videos when they're doing brain operations and they like, I think they make the people like play a guitar.
01:56:16.000
Yeah, there's a video of a girl playing the violin during surgery.
01:56:22.000
I think you lose the ability, or they're afraid, maybe they're afraid they might lose that ability if they're not continuing to do it while that's going on.
01:56:30.000
The best is when people wake up from brain surgery and they have this whole other skill.
01:56:35.000
There's stories of people suddenly being fluent in Spanish.
01:56:42.000
I mean, I don't know anybody like that, but I hear stories.
01:56:46.000
That is a really fascinating idea that someone could get a brain injury and come back with some new special skill or a language.
01:57:02.000
Well, I was reading an article about Mary Stenbergen.
01:57:18.000
She came back and had suddenly the ability to write music.
01:57:21.000
And she wrote songs for a soundtrack of a movie that just came out.
01:57:34.000
Stenburgen's brain became musical after a strange complication from a routine surgery.
01:57:55.000
We all want to hold people the way they think to a certain standard.
01:58:00.000
Everybody wants everybody else to think the way they do.
01:58:06.000
We just have to come up with a better way of A better way of expressing that no one has any idea how you see the world.
01:58:18.000
The way we talk to each other, we assume that your version of the world is exactly the same as my version of the world.
01:58:26.000
Yeah, but not only are you coming from a different environment, but your brain...
01:58:42.000
And you can tell when you're talking to those people.
01:58:49.000
I think we have to be a little bit more understanding of some people like that.
01:58:54.000
That's where all the weirdos, that's where the crazy ones come from.
01:58:57.000
That's why they say that, oh, that person's wired differently.
01:59:00.000
You don't think Quentin Tarantino's wired differently?
01:59:04.000
I mean, how are you going to make a movie like Once Upon a Time in Hollywood unless you're wired differently?
01:59:10.000
That you can see this alternative ending to this horrific story.
01:59:14.000
Want to go on a ride through that dude's brain?
01:59:20.000
That guy creates some fucking wild, dark images.
01:59:24.000
But you know, that guy, his brain is different.
01:59:30.000
That's why a lot of this, you-can-do-it stuff that you hear, like inspirational shit that you hear.
01:59:45.000
That's always, like, if you can, think on the positive side.
01:59:47.000
But not everybody can physically do everything.
01:59:51.000
You should definitely think positive in terms of energy, in terms of the way you view people and accept the moments.
01:59:57.000
But you shouldn't think positive in terms of you can do something that's not physically possible.
02:00:04.000
You shouldn't, like, if I decided at 52 I want to play football in the NFL. Right.
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My career would last 10 seconds if I was lucky, and that would be it.
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It doesn't matter how much positive thinking I do.
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It doesn't matter how much positive thinking I ever have.
02:00:45.000
Well, that's like when people who don't believe in science, you know, someone gets sick, they go, we'll pray.
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You go, okay, well, you, listen, I'm not knocking praying.
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Just people that are studying their entire lives to try to figure out how to fix you.
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They're not always right, but they're right way more than you are.
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But just the term makes me go, what are you doing?
02:01:29.000
But for sure, also, there's a lot of people that are kind of faking that thing.
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Telling you how to heal yourself and telling you what herbs to take.
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Where's the evidence these herbs are doing jack shit?
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There's a certain amount of you just believing you got some medicine.
02:02:04.000
I mean, if you take something that's like sugar pills, and you definitely feel like it made a big difference, your illness took a turn for the better, you just immediately start thinking that.
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There's no good quality evidence that homeopathy is an effective treatment for these or any other health conditions.
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Some practitioners also claim homeopathy can prevent malaria or other diseases.
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There's no evidence to support this and no scientifically plausible way that homeopathy can prevent diseases.
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They're probably trying to save money on their socialized medicine.
02:02:44.000
Yeah, I think if you believe that eating walnuts is going to make you feel like you have more energy and feel pure, and someone tells you and convinces you, you eat those walnuts, you'll start feeling different.
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You're not going to get the really skeptical people.
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But for some people, you give them some sugar pills and it'll work if they really believe it works.
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And I think depending upon how much you buy into it, I bet that has a big impact on the effectiveness of it.
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Because if you buy in 100%, you do, I think, feel that change.
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But if you're like, yeah, this is not going to do anything.
02:03:35.000
It's almost like some religions are, that's what they are.
02:03:42.000
Like some religions are just, if you believe, if you just really believe, you get rewarded.
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If you really believe, and that's the pull of a cult, right?
02:04:05.000
And that's also how you get people to, you know, the churches that do the tithing.
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Yeah, some Christian religions definitely do it.
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Yeah, especially if you're an entertainer and you're giving your agent 10 and your manager 10. Yeah.
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I don't know if Jesus would have wanted you to give payments like that.
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See, as Methodists, we just passed a collection plate and, you know, if you put a dollar, how's that different than a 20?
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You're just like, I gave something, wouldn't Jesus be just happy that I made the effort?
02:05:03.000
Yeah, it's almost like they should just charge a membership fee.
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Like, do you get more prayers if you put in a 20?
02:05:24.000
Well, do you remember when preachers, these late night preachers, they came up with this really dastardly move?
02:05:29.000
And the really dastardly move was to convince poor people to send them all of their money and that God would return it tenfold or twofold or whatever it is.
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And they had all these different stories of all these poor, gullible people that they were telling I mean, I don't know who was doing the stories where they would tell the success stories.
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I did this, and this happened to me, and I made so much money afterwards, and now we have a house, we have a car, and they get these people convinced.
02:05:59.000
Imagine targeting people's last remaining dollars.
02:06:09.000
Some of that televangelist stuff is, you know, really preyed on that, especially back in the day.
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Look at what they have because they did this for the church, for us.
02:06:20.000
Meanwhile, the preachers are flying from the jets.
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There was a preacher, I think I heard it on Stern, there was a preacher that told the church flat out, I need another plane.
02:06:36.000
And there was one, it was a woman interviewed this preacher as he was getting into his limo, just getting off his plane.
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She asked him, is it because you think poor people are demons?
02:06:50.000
He had said something crazy about he doesn't want to fly commercially with all those demons.
02:07:40.000
Missouri Attorney General sues Jim Baker over misleading coronavirus cure claims.
02:07:57.000
Totally eliminate it, kills it, deactivates it.
02:08:01.000
I love when guys go to prison for being shady and they're like, not stopping.
02:08:12.000
So he's saying he's got a $125 cure for the coronavirus.
02:08:27.000
When you throw up, that's the demon coming out of you.
02:08:31.000
I didn't know he was still wheeling and dealing.
02:08:55.000
Imagine if he really did have the cure, and we were mocking him the whole time.
02:09:00.000
What if there was like one scientist that lives in the woods, and he brought the guy in, and the guy had the cure, and they figured it out, it worked, but no one else knew, so he can't get fucked over by the FDA, so he's just going to sell it from his website.
02:09:19.000
What if Jim Baker becomes the king of the world?
02:09:51.000
You're letting somebody drill ink into your eyelids.
02:10:04.000
So people get them tattooed on, but you can't tell.
02:10:07.000
I think we're one or two generations from them being able to do whatever the you want.
02:10:17.000
One or two generations, like 50 years from now.
02:10:20.000
But you know, I feel like people can change their face so much already.
02:10:26.000
When people fix certain things, they take away what was unique about them.
02:10:47.000
You know, some gals got convinced that they needed to get their lips thicker and so they had surgeries on them or had their lips opened up.
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And, you know, you can get scar tissue anytime you have surgeries.
02:11:09.000
Lips are weird too if they don't match your face.
02:11:12.000
Immediately you're like, what's happening here?
02:11:19.000
But I think that people thought because they could do it with tits, why can't they do it with lips?
02:11:28.000
Ridiculous tits where we're like, okay, we're in.
02:11:35.000
I'm off the market, so I haven't been testing it.
02:11:43.000
People are getting their implants removed, too.
02:11:48.000
You know, some people, there's a woman named Kat Zingano, and she fought in the UFC. Now she fights for Bellator.
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She was one of the top bantamweight contenders.
02:11:58.000
She had hers removed, and she detailed it on her Instagram and talked about all the negative effects it was having on her health-wise.
02:12:07.000
And now once she got them removed, she felt infinitely better.
02:12:11.000
Well, especially the old implants, you know, that were leaking and a lot of people were getting sick from it.
02:12:20.000
But the problem is, apparently, it's just like everything else, like stuff we were talking about earlier.
02:12:26.000
Some people have a reaction to it and some people don't.
02:12:32.000
For whatever reason, their body rejects it and it creates an immunological response by their immune system.
02:12:46.000
Well, the trend right now, small boobs, big butts.
02:13:01.000
For when our society collapses, we have to go back to living in the forest.
02:13:09.000
This coronavirus turns out to be just like the flu, and everybody just gets the flu.
02:13:19.000
But we've got to be really prepared for a real one.
02:13:26.000
Well, because you're seeing how fast even this is spreading.
02:13:42.000
I think we need to pay way more attention to this shit.
02:13:47.000
I mean, I have no idea if they're underfunded or if it's a matter of scientific innovation, like how much time it takes to figure out a new, better way to protect from these diseases or...
02:13:58.000
He was talking about some of the existing vaccines that they, you know, that they could have possibly worked on to make a vaccine for a coronavirus.
02:14:10.000
They never bothered doing it after SARS. Right.
02:14:13.000
Apparently, which is another coronavirus type thing.
02:14:18.000
I think apparently a lot of them are like that, including the flu.
02:14:21.000
A lot of them are people get it from like pigs.
02:14:27.000
It jumps from the animals to us and we get sick as fuck.
02:14:34.000
It's really scary because you're already dealing with life.
02:14:47.000
The way we look at it, we look at it like it makes sense.
02:15:04.000
If all the people that are dying of diseases were really just dying of demons?
02:15:08.000
I would buy that $125 thing Jim Baker was selling.
02:15:12.000
But why is it less scary to have them die of disease than it is for them to die from demons if they're both just going to kill you?
02:15:25.000
If we just looked at diseases like demons, there's a fucking holy war going on out there.
02:15:33.000
Instead, we're like, oh no, it's just COVID-19.
02:15:45.000
We should treat healthcare in this country the same way we would treat fighting demons.
02:15:54.000
Isn't there a path to fight most of those demons?
02:15:56.000
Like, silver bullet, fucking steak through the heart.
02:15:59.000
Well, we haven't put enough money into fighting the demons.
02:16:03.000
We've accepted a certain amount of loss of the demons every year.
02:16:19.000
Like how many people die of disease in this country every year?
02:16:26.000
Like a lot of young kids and old folks die from the flu.
02:16:46.000
You know, if we've thought about all that shit like demons, we'd be working harder to fight it.
02:17:00.000
It's only going to kill people with lung problems.
02:17:21.000
These good shows do like eight or ten episodes.
02:17:46.000
He gives his stories out for young directors to make projects with.
02:17:56.000
But HBO does that thing where they make you fucking wait.
02:18:13.000
To wait a week for these shows feels like a month.
02:18:17.000
They also have to give in to this idea of this certain window of prime time.
02:18:21.000
A certain window of prime time, which is whatever the fuck it is.
02:18:24.000
8 to 10. People want to watch whatever the fuck they want to watch.
02:18:38.000
Streaming just fucked everything over for these people that want you to tune in.
02:18:44.000
What is it made by your boy Alex Garland that did Ex Machina?
02:18:49.000
This is just me guessing based off of the trailer.
02:18:52.000
It looks like it's about the people that make the simulation sort of.
02:19:11.000
Have you ever contemplated the idea of life as a simulation?
02:19:31.000
He said if he had one question, what did he say?
02:19:33.000
He would want to know what's behind the simulation or what's beyond the simulation.
02:19:41.000
That was like his one question he would want to have answered.
02:19:49.000
What's beyond the simulation I think was his quote.
02:19:55.000
And then if you talk to some scientists that have tried to study this, like look at it objectively, they think it's more probable that we are living in a simulation than not.
02:20:06.000
Yeah, but it would be like, yeah, the question really is, because it can't just exist, right?
02:20:18.000
Eventually there's going to come a time where if you think about what you can do now, have you ever fucked around with one of those like HTC Vives?
02:20:28.000
The Oculus one is pretty sweet because it's just a headset and it plugs into a laptop or iPad rather.
02:20:37.000
Plugged in and you step away from it and you're in this fucking world.
02:20:45.000
There's games with swords and shit and you're swiping at like geometric patterns that are flying by you and you're playing drums on them.
02:21:00.000
If they keep going with that, think about what a movie used to look like in 1930. It was so ridiculous.
02:21:09.000
They're so bad that it's like for kids today, it's actually funny.
02:21:13.000
I've showed it to my kids and they thought it was funny.
02:21:24.000
So what we can do now with these HTC Vibes and these Oculus and all these places like Sandbox where you go and play these games and these warehouses with virtual reality, this is just the beginning.
02:21:42.000
There's going to come a time where they can create a digital realm that you can exist in and it's indistinguishable from this world.
02:21:55.000
If we don't blow ourselves up, it might take...
02:22:04.000
If we can survive for a certain amount of time in prosperity.
02:22:13.000
They're probably going to stop us from destroying the world.
02:22:19.000
If I was from another planet, I wouldn't think it would be a good idea to fuck with people.
02:22:23.000
I'd be like, let's just let them sort this out.
02:22:27.000
But I definitely would want to step in before they hit the nukes.
02:22:32.000
Like, we can't let them nuke the whole planet, these idiots.
02:22:45.000
Well, when Trump was fighting with Kim Jong-un, I was like, we're really close.
02:22:52.000
Does Pakistan, do they have nuclear weapons as well?
02:23:00.000
They're right next to each other and they hate each other and they get mad.
02:23:07.000
There's like one dude that if he's like really pissed off, who's going to stop him, you know?
02:23:13.000
Pakistan's weapons of mass destruction is one of the nine states to possess nuclear weapons.
02:23:18.000
Pakistan began development of nuclear weapons in January of 1972 under Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
02:23:37.000
It's just a gentleman's agreement that they're not going to use these?
02:23:50.000
Parts of the world that just have wacky ass names.
02:23:53.000
There's a dude who fights in the UFC. He's the UFC lightweight champion.
02:24:01.000
They have a totally different way of using words over there.
02:24:09.000
Yeah, it's like this powerful, you know, Russian-sounding name.
02:24:15.000
Like, that so identifies you with that part of the world.
02:24:39.000
Like, that name shows you that it's that part of the world.
02:24:48.000
That we have a boring-ass name development program.
02:24:52.000
Well, we got lazy when people came off the boat, right?
02:25:18.000
But some parts of the world, they have fucking gallant names.
02:25:27.000
But, like, some languages, though, it's like this huge, long name, and then it's like a zero with a slash.
02:25:35.000
This long name can be represented by a tiny symbol in some languages.
02:25:51.000
Imagine having to learn that now at a grown age.
02:26:03.000
You had a brain injury and you just couldn't understand it and you couldn't explain to anyone.
02:26:12.000
Yeah, the crazy thing about Asian characters too, they developed a whole different way of saying stuff.
02:26:19.000
They developed a way of saying stuff like they can recreate our language inside their language, but they're doing it with these little symbols and they all kind of know what it all means when it's all pushed together like that.
02:26:31.000
But we look at it as just like a bunch of lines that we don't understand.
02:26:36.000
But if you could see it, that would be one of the weirder things about learning to read it.
02:26:41.000
All of a sudden, it would look like language to you.
02:26:49.000
And don't they read from, certain languages read the other direction, right?
02:27:02.000
Like imagine, you know how bad doctors have prescription handwriting stuff?
02:27:08.000
What's like a guy whose handwriting is terrible?
02:27:13.000
Do you have to really understand Mandarin to sort through that?
02:27:17.000
They're like, oh, that was supposed to have three dots.
02:27:20.000
I've gotten mail, like actual mail from friends, like a Christmas card or something like that, and they write something in it, and I'm like, hey, bro, what did you want to say to me?
02:27:28.000
Because I can't read a word of what that scratch was, but they still send it to you.
02:27:38.000
Oh my god, but that's how they're doing it in Chinese.
02:27:45.000
You imagine what kind of 10th degree black belt in Chinese you'd have to be to even understand what the fuck that is?
02:27:53.000
It just makes sense if we were thinking that people have terrible handwriting in English.
02:27:57.000
Why wouldn't they have terrible handwriting in Chinese?
02:28:03.000
Like, if you told me that was Chinese, I'm like, bro, that's scribbles.
02:28:16.000
Bro, it looks like letters that are being attacked by a tornado.
02:28:21.000
It looks like letters that are all being attacked by cartoon tornadoes.
02:28:35.000
I'm so bummed out that I'm too stupid to learn it at this day and age.
02:28:49.000
The beauty of Spanish is that things sound like they're spelled.
02:28:53.000
The hard part of the English language is so many things are not pronounced how they're spelled.
02:29:05.000
And Spanish is all using the same letters that we use.
02:29:09.000
You know, like if you had ever learned Russian, like, oof.
02:29:16.000
There's a bunch of those little weird Russian symbols.
02:29:20.000
But that must be how a Russian looks at English if they don't speak it.
02:29:24.000
But the thing is about other countries, a lot of them are bilingual.
02:29:32.000
I lived in Spain for a year and everybody there spoke two languages.
02:29:37.000
And a lot of them were coming from other countries and they spoke multiple languages there.
02:29:43.000
I wonder if that's one of the things that makes places like Italy or countries like that a little bit more artistically sophisticated still.
02:29:56.000
Maybe it's the fact that everybody knows more than one language.
02:30:00.000
I wonder if their brains just work a little better from doing that, processing two languages.
02:30:08.000
Like, every time I visited Italy, I'm like, how did all this art come out of this one place?
02:30:12.000
I know a lot of it they stole from other spots when they were the Romans.
02:30:15.000
But just the shit that they made, for sure, in Italy.
02:30:23.000
But my argument falls apart under scrutiny because they just spoke Italian back then.
02:30:33.000
They probably never made contact with each other like they do now.
02:30:36.000
But even now, you'll go to a gelato shop, and the cashier's fluent in Italian and English.
02:30:45.000
You're like, you could make a gazillion dollars being a translator, but they're just like, oh, we all know two languages.
02:31:00.000
And I don't think they even know how much they have, like what value they have in them.
02:31:06.000
I used to know this dude that I used to do Taekwondo with, and he was an international shipment guy.
02:31:14.000
He would get things in other countries and bring them back to America and sell them.
02:31:21.000
I used to deliver pizzas with this dude when he was trying to start his business up.
02:31:27.000
He just had a unique ability to learn languages.
02:31:31.000
And he would recite things from these languages to you.
02:31:34.000
I'm like, damn, dude, that's impressive as fuck.
02:31:39.000
And then he'd buy and sell things from other countries.
02:31:41.000
And he could talk to these people on the phone in different languages.
02:31:44.000
Yeah, well I think it's like having a musical skill.
02:31:47.000
I think you hear things like you are just able to translate it better.
02:31:52.000
One of my best friends growing up, he speaks like five languages.
02:31:57.000
I think you just have to be predispositioned to be good at that.
02:32:03.000
Is that what it is or is it just you just have to love it?
02:32:07.000
I think it's a combo of like you have to love it, you have to practice it, but I do think certain people have like the gift to do it more than others.
02:32:39.000
Where they think that the very, very elite, cream of the crop, they start really young.
02:32:45.000
And yeah, guys like Floyd Mayweather started boxing really, really young.
02:32:48.000
And he's pretty much regarded the best boxer ever.
02:32:51.000
And as he grew up, he grew up, like his body was developing while he was boxing.
02:32:59.000
So it becomes almost like a part of who you are.
02:33:01.000
Your body and your skills become one and the same.
02:33:04.000
And they think that when you're learning and you're like in your 30s, like say if you were like a pretty athletic person, you're learning in your 30s, you're always going to have like a giant...
02:33:18.000
When you're dealing with a guy like Floyd Mayweather.
02:33:27.000
And he has so much understanding because he's been doing it his whole life.
02:33:31.000
It's like there's certain things you see, almost like you can't catch up.
02:33:38.000
If you want to develop those skills to the ultimate peak for some people, it has to be done while they're growing and evolving, it seems.
02:33:47.000
And I always wondered if that was the case with voices, too.
02:33:51.000
Little kids are singing when they're really young.
02:33:53.000
I wonder if those little kids develop amazing voices because they're strengthening it as their...
02:34:09.000
I feel like there's a lot of energy involved in singing.
02:34:11.000
I can't sing, but I feel like there's a lot of projection and energy involved in that.
02:34:16.000
I would think that if you learn how to do that as you're young, as your body's growing and developing, it'll...
02:34:30.000
But if you started younger, it does seem like you would be at such an advantage.
02:34:34.000
I wonder if that's the case with talking shit, too.
02:34:39.000
If you don't learn how to talk shit when you're really young, it becomes a real problem as you get older.
02:34:44.000
It's hard to learn how to talk shit when you're in your 30s and 40s.
02:34:52.000
I feel like people with siblings are good at talking shit.
02:35:13.000
Well, I think that's what made me have a thicker skin.
02:35:18.000
So you're just like, from day one, you're a piece of shit.
02:35:23.000
But they love you, but they talk to you in a different, you're not coddled, you know, with brothers.
02:35:29.000
Yeah, it's a totally different kind of relationship.
02:35:36.000
You always find that really tough people, the really toughest people, a lot of them, not all of them, but a lot of them, they have older brothers that used to beat their ass.
02:35:48.000
Some of the best fighters in the UFC have older brothers.
02:35:53.000
But if I had to protect myself, I know that old school fighting with my brothers would just come out and I would beat somebody up.
02:36:09.000
You're like, oh, my brother's about to beat the shit out of me.
02:36:19.000
There was no, like, oh, you're a girl, you can't hit girls.
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The oldest one's 7 years older than me and the middle one's 3 years older than me.
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But yeah, I remember I got sent to the principal's office in second grade because I gave somebody a bird.
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They turned into really good guys, but when they were young, I heard stories like when they would walk past, that was back when people would keep their doors open in our little town.
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Everyone would see my brothers coming and would shut their doors.
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They were like the rugrats of the neighborhood.
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It certainly, certainly helps because you just, you know, we all eat shit at some point and you just go, alright.
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That's the hardest thing for people to take, right?
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Well, yeah, it's hard because you're like, it's just you and a microphone.
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And I mean, it certainly helps with like, you know, social media that we talked about.
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You just, you know, it's not fun, but you just kind of shrug it off and go, oh well.
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We look at them like they're really bad and it's terrible, but if you have energy, failures are valuable because it makes you realize, I got some correction to do.
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Yeah, because if people were just laughing, it's not making you get better at that thing.
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And it sucks when you're in it, but it does make you like, oh, something's not working here.
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Yeah, so I try to pretend that I just bombed every day.
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Especially when I'm about to go on stage of writing.
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Pretend like I'm doing a set right after I bombed.
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Well, I think that's why stand-up is a great equalizer.
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These huge comics can go for their audiences, go kill, kill, kill.
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But then they got to go back to the comedy club with that new stuff and start from square one and work it back up.
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Everybody's got to go back to the club at some point.
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We've been talking about that a lot lately because it's such an important point.
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And, you know, I was hanging out with Tommy this weekend.
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He just happened to be there doing stand-up the same weekend.
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So he came to the fights and I came to see his show.
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And his show, his special is just about to come out, and he's got all this new shit that he's been working out at the clubs.
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It's so fun to see that stage where someone's putting it together.
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They've got these big laughs, and he's got this part where they're trying to figure out where this goes, and then you can see how much of it is new and how much of it is polished.
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Do you, I mean, with someone like Tom who's, you know, so seasoned, do you look at stuff and ever be like, hey, I have a suggestion?
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If I really saw something, I mean, we talk about stuff and he'll give me one too.
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He'll tell me, you know, like, I like it when you did it this way.
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Like Bert and I were talking about a new bit that he had.
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Where he did it one way during the first show, and he missed the part of why it got such a big laugh.
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I was like, this is how, because I watched both sets, I was like, this is how I saw the first one.
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Otherwise, it seems like it's part of the sentence before it.
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You know, some good comics have given me really good advice.
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It's cool when you see it through somebody else's eyes.
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Because, yeah, there's so many things you miss.
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You've got to go back to that thing and explore it.
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I record all of them, I listen to half of them.
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I feel like if I learn that way, it seems to me that when I'm doing it, it's just...
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And for me, part of doing my best is I have to hear it.
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And if I felt like something went weird or something was clunky or I tried to do something backwards or try to do the punchline first and just fucking around with a bit, trying to expand on it, I need to hear it.
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It is kind of, but it's also, like, what's great about Joey Diaz is that it's an art.
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Yeah, and he's got a lot of opinions and they're funny.
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Because I just start with what's funny to me and then expand from there and hope that other people find it funny.
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Yeah, but when you're doing it, you're doing it for a specific reason, right?
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You're doing it because you're trying to figure out how to make it work.
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Well, because you know that certain stories from your life or family or whatever are funny.
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Sometimes we're like, but how do I get that across?
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That's the part for me that's always what I'm aiming for.
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I don't want them to go away going, oh, I guess you had to be there to find that funny.
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I want them to be like, oh, I felt like I was in that moment with you watching it happen.
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I always say that most jokes that you see recorded, it's probably 70% as funny as it was if you were there.
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Yeah, because there's a feeling that you get when you're laughing with people.
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Part of the fun of what we do is the fact that we do it in front of an audience.
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And the audience can control so much of the mood of the show.
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When you're live, or you're watching it at home rather, you're just getting a ghost.
02:44:42.000
So if you think someone's funny, what I'm saying is if someone thinks you're funny from Netflix, and I'm sure they will, you're more funny.
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You watch them live and you're like, oh my god.
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Before, when people would come to see you, they wanted every bit to be polished and done and ready.
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But now they know that if you come to the Tuesday night to the Comedy Store, there's going to be some clunky premises tossed about.
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Sometimes you have a new idea and you just get it off wrong right out of the gate and you can't recover.
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Uh, I've been doing, hitting different clubs, probably three, two to three a week.
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But I go to, I don't go like to the comedy store every week.
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I'll change it up and do different shows around town.
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There's some other, like, rooms that do, like, gay shows.
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I just felt very fabulous talking about the gay shows.
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It would be easy for me to go to the gay rooms and just do those shows, those audiences.
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For me as a comic, hitting the store has always got to be part of the routine.
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Because I want to appeal to the bros, to the straight chicks, to the married couple, to the whoever.
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I don't want my thing to be for one group of people.
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I think that attitude is why you're so fucking funny.
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You're looking at it objectively and you're saying, I want to mix it all up.
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Because there will be times I'm going to the store where I know I have a new bit.
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I know it's going to be hard, but I've got to do it.
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So for me, the store has always got to be part of my workout.
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You know, you see the arms crossed and be like, yeah, what do you got?
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You know, and then you have to slowly see those arms unfold and, you know, win those people over.
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And it doesn't always happen, but it makes you keep at it, you know?
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You have a very professional attitude about it.
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I know I'm on the newer side of it, even at 13 years.
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And I just try to find my place in it and how to keep getting better at it.
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As a comic, no, there's no, I mean, your storytelling is, like, unbelievable.
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I think the, one of the, I saw you doing that, um, what, what's happened?
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Yeah, and you just told, like, you're just telling a story.
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And you're just like, holy, it's like a whole other level.
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It's already 311. Dude, we've been doing this for three hours.
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That's my Instagram, fortunefeimster.com slash tour.