In this episode, we discuss the spread of the zombie virus that has infected the entire country and the lack of action being taken by the government to stop it. We also talk about how the government is handling the situation and what we can do to prevent it from happening in the first place. We also discuss the impact on the elderly and sick, and what the government should do in order to prevent them from getting infected. And of course, we have our Hot Take of the Day from Andy Stump, who has a hot take on this whole zombie outbreak and why we should do something about it. Also, we give our thoughts on the new movie Idris Elba and how he's doing so far, and why he should be worried about this. We finish up the episode with our Hot Takes of the Week from the past week, and our predictions for the future of the outbreak and the impact it could have on the economy. Stay tuned for Part 2 of this episode next week! Stay safe out there, and Don't Get Lost in the Storm! -Jon Sorrentino and Andrew Stump Jon and Andy Don't Tell Mom: e. Jon & Andrew Andy's Hot Take: - Jon's Hot Takes: What's going on with the Zombie Outbreak? What should we do about the zombie outbreak? - What's the best thing we should we be doing about it? -- Jon and Andrew's Hot Tip: Is it safe to eat in the middle of the country? What are you worried about it's going to be safe to go to eat at Disneyland or Disneyland or go to Disneyland or Disney World? Jon's hot take: What do you think of the best place to get sick in the worst place to eat the most authentic food in the most dangerous place in the best restaurant in the biggest place in America? ? -- What are the best way to get out of your local park or the most fun place to watch the most accessible place to be the most affordable place in your most authenticest place in Disneyland or the best to get the most of your best day to get your healthiestest and most authentic experience in your best night out in the greatest place? Is there any evidence that you should be doing the most rest and the healthiest possible day to be most authentic and the most efficient and most fun? , and much more! --
00:00:20.000I have the same information sources that everybody else does.
00:00:22.000My concern is not that we shouldn't protect...
00:00:27.000People that are sick and people that are old.
00:00:30.000My concern is that these decisions are being done by politicians and that they want to do this so that they can be elected come re-election.
00:00:39.000They don't want people to be upset at them for not acting.
00:00:43.000And so they're making these decisions.
00:00:46.000And they're not showing us exactly how they're going to get out of this.
00:00:50.000Like, when you're shutting down Los Angeles for a month, just the staggering amount of people that are going to be in debt, and there's some number that we looked it up recently of the amount of people that live check to check.
00:03:16.000It's a wild time because of that, because there's no clear information and because you're seeing some people look really healthy and then you're seeing the stories that come out of Italy.
00:03:23.000One thing to take into consideration with Italy is Italy has one of the oldest populations.
00:03:27.000They have a lot of old people And a shit ton of smokers.
00:03:31.000Those two factors are huge here because this is a respiratory disease.
00:03:35.000Well, don't they also have, in comparison to the rest of the world, more generations living in a single household?
00:03:42.000Which I would imagine is going to be, as those generations move on, you're going to have higher risk people living with people who are lower risk but might be transmitting it.
00:04:32.000He's immune compromised for sure because of coming off of the testicular cancer and then on top of that with asthma and bronchitis and then he gets a respiratory disease.
00:04:43.000Those are the people that really have to worry and I really wish there was a clear way to help them other than shutting down everything for a month.
00:04:54.000I was talking to Evan Hafer this morning, called out of the blue, and we were having kind of a conversation about this.
00:04:59.000And he brought something up that just about the narrative.
00:05:03.000And to me, what's happening right now is it's interesting from a couple of perspectives.
00:05:09.000For one, I've traveled the world enough and seen people living in a variety of different living conditions that right now, in my opinion at least...
00:05:19.000People are getting a glimpse into what it is like to live in the non-first world.
00:05:24.000Maybe you don't even have a grocery store, but if you go there, you can't get everything that you want.
00:05:28.000You can't travel when you always want to.
00:05:31.000You don't have the freedom of movement that you want.
00:05:33.000A lot of people live their life, take the virus out of the equation.
00:05:37.000A lot of people live their life day to day in situations just like this or much worse.
00:05:42.000So I think it should be eye-opening, hopefully, for people that There's a thin margin between, you know, the excess and luxury that we have in the first world and how fast that can be removed and we can start stepping down that staircase.
00:05:57.000And it shows to me, you know, I try to view the videos that you see online of people fist fighting for toilet paper.
00:06:06.000I think those are the anomaly and I try not to let the anomaly paint the norm.
00:06:09.000I don't think most people are doing that, but there are people that are doing that.
00:06:13.000And there are people who are going in And they're hoarding and buying.
00:06:17.000I don't think – like toilet paper is a good example.
00:06:19.000I can give you 15 different ways to wipe your ass without toilet paper.
00:06:23.000Like you're going to be OK. Like do you have a garden hose?
00:07:25.000And the conversation I was having with Evan was, you know, it'd be great if we were talking about, you know, the people who are going to get crushed, and I'm not an economic expert by any stretch, but are the ones you already talked about, are living paycheck to paycheck.
00:07:38.000How about the elderly who are in the high-risk category that are on Social Security fixed income?
00:07:42.000And they can't even go out right now because they don't feel comfortable getting groceries.
00:07:47.000And I would love to have a conversation about a social construct or relationship that we have where we start talking about what are we going to do to get food and aid to these people?
00:07:58.000What are we going to do to come together and help everybody out instead of assholes and Target hoarding toilet paper?
00:08:05.000And to me, a lot of that is driven by fear and a lot of it is driven by panic.
00:08:10.000And believe me, I'm not an expert at all, probably on anything in my life.
00:08:14.000But one thing that I have some experience in is surviving and thriving in high-risk situations that are high stress, which is kind of what's going on right now.
00:08:23.000And the most dangerous thing you can do is lose control of your emotions or let your emotions take over your decision-making cycle, which is what I see people doing, and it's so dangerous.
00:08:32.000And I think we need to start finding ways to back away from that and start talking about the we greater than me.
00:08:37.000I don't think there's a toilet paper shortage.
00:08:39.000There's a shortage of people with common sense who are buying too much toilet paper, which is freaking other people out.
00:08:44.000So they're buying too much stuff, which they don't actually need, which is freaking – you know what I mean?
00:10:22.000Here, I'm going to show this to you, Jamie.
00:10:24.000Maybe we can put this up on the screen because it's really kind of crazy that this is the choice that they've made to shut everything down.
00:10:34.000Here, I'm sending this to you right now.
00:10:53.000I mean, it's more of a recommendation than anything, but they do have to close businesses.
00:10:57.000Well, I think they're hoping that people do buy into a social contract, like maybe we can care about the we over me, but you see people not doing that when they're pressed, and that gets rough.
00:12:23.000144 cases, 31 out of 144 to 70 hospitalizations, so 31.3 to 70.3 hospitalizations, 6 to 29 ICU fatalities,
00:12:39.00010 So the vast majority of fatalities, you're looking at people between 75 and 84, which is 4.3 to 10.5, and then 85 +, which is 10.4 to 27.3.
00:12:53.000So it's really obviously not good for really old people.
00:12:57.000It looks like you got a 25% fatality rate at the worst case scenario for hospitalized people that have the case.
00:13:05.000But again, for young, healthy people, it's not the big monster that everybody thinks it is.
00:13:16.000I mean, there's people running around, terrified, that are young and healthy.
00:13:22.000Well, other than the spectrum, too, there's the young people running around terrified and healthy, and then there's the people who are mobbing beaches in Florida on spring break saying...
00:14:06.000As my nine-year-old says, they have mushy brains.
00:14:09.000I was trying to explain to the nine-year-old what the development of the frontal lobe is.
00:14:15.000And I'm like, you know, because we were just talking about, I talk to my kids like they're kids, but I also talk to them like they're adults.
00:14:21.000In that I lay things out and then I explain.
00:14:24.000So I lay things out like I laid to an adult.
00:14:26.000And then I'm like, your frontal lobe is a part of your brain that makes the decisions and it's not fully developed until you're 25 years old.
00:14:32.000And so you see the little nine-year-old brain spinning.
00:17:27.000And he said that they could have had a coronavirus vaccine.
00:17:31.000That once SARS happened, SARS, which is also a coronavirus, they could have worked on developing a coronavirus vaccine then.
00:17:38.000And that we are far too flippant about how we approach these things.
00:17:42.000And if it's not there right in our face, they don't allocate resources towards those kind of things.
00:17:48.000I think our society is kind of defined by its excess and luxury.
00:17:51.000And when you live in that environment, and I'm not saying it negatively at all, but if you live in that environment, if you never leave that environment, if you don't bend yourself before the world bends you a little bit, shit's going to come off the rails when you get pressed.
00:18:05.000And that's where the behavior of people scares me far more than the actual virus itself.
00:18:09.000I mean, I have no control over if I get the virus and how that plays itself out for me.
00:18:17.000But I can control my behavior and how I act and try to exude calm when it comes to my kids or my family, my friends, and my social circle.
00:18:25.000But yeah, I hope that people on the other side of this, because it's not going to be the end of the world, but I hope on the other side it gives them a greater understanding and appreciation and perspective.
00:18:38.000Of what we have, how lucky we are, and then just maybe to think about, you know, the people...
00:18:42.000What's the obesity rate in the U.S. right now?
00:19:07.000In my experience, spend a lot of time, energy, and effort focusing on things that they cannot control.
00:19:12.000And that is definitely one thing that I learned from my old job is that at some point you have to surrender the emotional and mental horsepower on the things that you can't control and only focus on the things that you can, which is specifically yourself.
00:19:24.000Like, you can't control what happens to you, but you can control how you receive what happens to you.
00:19:30.000And being scared, allowing that to make the decision-making process for you is what gets people in substantial trouble.
00:19:37.000Like, I'll give you an example from my old job.
00:21:53.000And the only thing that you should spend your time, energy, and effort working on are the things directly inside of your circle of influence.
00:21:58.000And even inside of that one there could be the circle of control.
00:22:01.000And what do you have control over at all times?
00:22:03.000The things that come out of your mouth.
00:22:12.000Whether or not you decide to work out as opposed to shoving 4,000 excess calories in your face every single day.
00:22:19.000If you focus on those things and put your time, energy, and effort in there, you're going to get through stressful situations just fine because you actually have more mental capacity because you're trimming off other things that you can't control.
00:22:32.000The thing about things that you can't control, though, is some people, they're thinking that this is one of those things that if you were a paranoid person and you prepped and worried about the future, you would have already stockpiled enough food and toilet paper and ammo and all these different things so that you were ready for this,
00:22:50.000whereas people that were just concentrating on day-to-day life didn't act, didn't think, and then got caught.
00:25:02.000And, like, the entire unit, I mean, not everybody did this, but basically we were ineffective for 48 hours because guys' stomachs were so destroyed from eating all of the MREs.
00:25:12.000And you'd see guys just take a sleeve of Thin Mints and just...
00:28:36.000There's a lot of people that actually enjoy it.
00:28:40.000Apparently the most disgusting food, and this is coming from the late, great Anthony Bourdain that he ever tried, was fermented shark from Iceland.
00:28:47.000He said, there are no words to describe the putrid, disgusting smell and taste.
00:28:55.000And he's like, he couldn't imagine that people would ever acquire a taste for this.
00:29:54.000It's a bunch of hot girls in bikinis that go cave diving, and they find blind sharks that live deep in the caves, and then they get, spoiler alert, some people get fucked up by sharks.
00:32:31.000Mind you, only one of the two people is holding this.
00:32:34.000The other person has zero entertainment for that time period because you're just along for the ride as the buddy.
00:32:39.000So you're holding onto their elbow to pinch them to make sure you're still there.
00:32:42.000But most of the time, if you're the driver, the person navigating, your buddy will stay on one side of you.
00:32:48.000And you know that you're there because they'll check in every once in a while and squeeze your elbow.
00:32:51.000And I had, on more than one occasion, diving in the dark, weird noises under there.
00:32:58.000Because with a rebreather, you don't have the as you exhale.
00:33:01.000So you can hear the crackling and the eating and boats come over your head.
00:33:04.000It sounds like you're going to die at any time.
00:33:06.000Perhaps I have an overactive imagination.
00:33:09.000I've watched Jaws too many times, so I'm sitting there trying to navigate and then just thinking like, oh my god, we're going to get eaten by a shark.
00:33:15.000But my buddy is on my right-hand side and you'll get slammed by something on your left and you'll just see it go off in the phosphorescence.
00:33:21.000The question is, do you look or do you just keep your head down and keep going?
00:33:32.000And if I had looked and if it had been a shark, I would have probably killed myself just doing a nuclear submarine porpoising out of the water.
00:34:10.000Yeah, but still, you would think one guy.
00:34:13.000I know guys who've been struck by lightning.
00:34:16.000I wonder what your odds are, lightning strike versus shark attack.
00:34:19.000I bet it's way higher, lightning strike if you're outside, than if you're in the water.
00:34:24.000I know of them canceling dives because there was shark activity in the area, but I don't know of a single guy who's actually had an interaction where they got bit.
00:35:53.000It works really, really well until it doesn't.
00:35:56.000And you see people do the nuclear submarine out of the water, ripping their mouthpiece out because it's called a caustic cocktail.
00:36:03.000There's one-way valves in each of the hoses.
00:36:05.000So the loop has to be correct and continuous.
00:36:09.000So when you exhale, it needs to go into the scrubber.
00:36:11.000And then when you inhale, it needs to come...
00:36:14.000Because if there was no one-way valve, you know what I mean?
00:36:16.000The oxygen would flow through the system without being able to recharge.
00:36:20.000Because if you inhale enough, it'll give you another hit of pure oxygen and it can continue that cycle.
00:36:25.000But so the canister will start to fill up and you can hear it too.
00:36:29.000Like after every dive, you maintain your own gear.
00:36:34.000But you'll dump out the canister and the chemical, it'll turn, at least the stuff that I was using when I was in, it'll turn like a purplish color as the effectiveness is starting to reduce.
00:36:45.000You can actually do more than one dye with it because you open the container up and you make sure that the chemicals are okay.
00:36:49.000And then you tilt it over and on every dive, water starts coming out of it.
00:37:02.000And again, you can spend time worrying about that, or you can just drive on and deal with, if it becomes an issue, you can deal with it at that time.
00:37:10.000What do you do if it becomes an issue?
00:38:01.000So there's boats that are up top that not only are they there to help in case an emergency would come up, but boats don't see those little buoys because it's just a little orange buoy traveling along.
00:38:10.000And at nighttime, you put You know, chem-like glow sticks on them, which nobody is looking for.
00:38:15.000So boats are up there to basically push other boats away.
00:38:18.000So you'll get up there and you literally just, you know, you wave your hand and the boat will come over and they're going to get you to a corpsman, which is, you know, the medical personnel on the Navy side of the house, and they're going to start treating you right there.
00:38:27.000But the chemical, the caustic cocktails are gnarly.
00:38:30.000I mean, guys will just come up projectile vomiting.
00:38:32.000It doesn't happen that often, but every dive you dip that thing over and the water starts coming out of it.
00:38:59.000I do not know off the top of my head, but an exhaustion dive on a dragger, for me, you could go somewhere between three and a half to four hours.
00:40:24.000What would be the best way to describe it?
00:40:27.000There are multiple squadrons inside of that command.
00:40:32.000They all have the same skill set, but you need multiple, so one can be on deployment while another one is training and the other one is resting.
00:40:39.000You want to get into a rotation cycle.
00:40:42.000So at the end of selection, an X number of people get partitioned off to each one of those.
00:40:47.000And it takes time to get up to speed because the selection tactics and the way that you train are good, but you get better as you are working with the guys with more experience, specifically the real-world experience.
00:40:59.000And so they pulled us out of selection about a month early and sent us over to augment the car's eye detail.
00:41:07.000We basically, you know, you're a deterrent at that point.
00:41:09.000And it's one of the worst missions because you can't...
00:41:11.000It's very reactive security detail stuff.
00:41:14.000You can't really do anything until somebody else does something, so you're already behind the power curve.
00:41:17.000It's my least favorite mission set, I think.
00:41:20.000But we came back from that, and then the intel started kicking off for Iraq, and they sent us over to Saudi Arabia, and we were there for...
00:41:30.000Probably somewhere between 7 to 10 days.
00:41:32.000That's where I watched Bush give the speech.
00:41:33.000You know, Saddam Hussein has, I think it was 24 hours to comply or turn himself in, whatever it was.
00:41:39.000And we had already taken a look at – we knew before going over there that there were two or three objectives that we were going to look at.
00:41:47.000So we had already basically planned missions that we were going to do.
00:41:50.000While we were in Virginia Beach, we were planning for stuff in Iraq.
00:42:12.000You have all your normal shit on anyway.
00:42:14.000Like there's guys carrying quickie saws in a hazmat suit with a gas mask on, breathing through a blower on their back, overworking the blower.
00:42:22.000And it's amazing how close to suffocation I've actually come inside of those gas masks.
00:43:58.000But I think they had gotten enough gas, and we had to hit the tanker on the way back as well.
00:44:02.000So you're just sitting there waiting for three and a half, you know, three and three-quarter hours, and about ten minutes out, you start getting your gas mask and stuff on because you've got to stuff the drape.
00:44:18.000Which is why you notice when people are actually using them, they will all constantly have movement in their head because they're increasing their field of view and up and down.
00:44:26.000And that's when you can orient them to a good offset to your eye.
00:44:29.000Now imagine putting a gas mask in between your eye and the lens of the night vision goggle.
00:46:05.000So we come in, number one chem biotarget in Iraq, and we had looked at it from the perspective of like air conditioning specialists and, you know, from architects to what we could encounter on the ground, potential threats, satellite imagery of historical stuff,
00:46:47.000And by the time I got to the front door of that structure, I was probably as close to being unconscious due to asphyxiation as I often am doing jujitsu, getting choked out.
00:47:08.000Like the intelligence was so horribly and incredibly off when it came to that.
00:47:12.000So I just ripped my mask off at some point because I would have rather died from whatever horrendous disease could have been in there than suffocate.
00:47:19.000And then we cleared through it and I knocked my night vision goggles off with a sledgehammer.
00:47:48.000The information that we had going into the hospital is that it was a Fedayeen hotbed, like 50 to 500 people was the expected amount of resistance that we could have, and we could fit 27 people in the helicopter.
00:48:00.000So that's what we launched with in the back of our head.
00:48:05.000And fortunately, we didn't meet any resistance inside of the structure.
00:48:08.000And it actually was kind of business as usual.
00:48:11.000Looking back, like there was nothing exciting about that target whatsoever.
00:48:15.000People in the modern day, if they were to action that target now with the experience that they have, they wouldn't even register on the radar scope.
00:48:23.000Or the little amount of resistance that was encountered outside, it just would be another day at the office.
00:48:27.000There was a public story of that, and then there was a lot of dispute about whether or not that was accurate.
00:48:34.000I remember she actually took some heat.
00:49:49.000If you're a male or a female, you're not going to have a good go of it, for sure.
00:49:53.000And, again, I'm not an exact expert on what happens specifically with her— But from my understanding, she experienced that as well as all the other medical issues.
00:50:03.000But when we – she was in bad shape when we pulled her out of the hospital for sure.
00:50:07.000But then – so – and I remember there were two people with us that were carrying video cameras.
00:50:14.000And there was a little bit of footage that was taken from that like when she was in the hospital bed in the hospital.
00:50:20.000And a lot of the rest of it was from the cameras on the helicopters and some – the sensors overhead.
00:50:25.000But the narrative from that, not a word was said by anybody that was there executing that objective or from her.
00:50:31.000And I think my hypothesis is we were a month into that war.
00:50:37.000A lot of that war was based on we need to go rid this country and this dictator of their WMDs.
00:50:45.000From a PR perspective wise, it wasn't probably going as well as they wanted it to do and they wanted to have a PR victory.
00:50:53.000But the stuff that was said, the stuff that made the news, all the stuff that got blown out of proportion, none of that came from the people that were actually there.
00:51:00.000It came from all the layers on top of it.
00:52:14.000And so they had abused her and then taken her to a hospital?
00:52:17.000I get a little grainy on the details of what happened in between the wreck and when we picked her up because there are conflicting narratives.
00:52:30.000Or there are reports that they attempted to put her into an ambulance and bring her back to U.S. forces.
00:52:36.000But at that same time, the Fedayeen were using ambulances as basically military fighting vehicles.
00:52:41.000So they said that when they tried to do that, the ambulance was shot at, which makes sense if there was a trend of people using an ambulance as a military vehicle.
00:52:50.000That would make sense and they would get turned around.
00:52:51.000So they might have tried to bring her back.
00:52:54.000You know, that hospital was being used as a fedain staging point because they're, I mean, they're not dumb people.
00:53:00.000They understand we're not going to likely bomb hospitals or religious structures.
00:53:03.000So use them to their military advantage.
00:53:17.000That story was a giant story in the media about the war and people trying to sort out what was true versus what was the publicity narrative.
00:53:29.000I would say, on average, take 90% of what you hear off the top.
00:54:09.000But it's not – to me at least it's not fascinating and I wish other people were less fascinated by it because then they would be less likely to be taken advantage of by people who are snake oil salesmen.
00:55:29.000My background is 100% a two-sided knife.
00:55:34.000It'll open doors, and some of them I'm not qualified to walk through, but they will open it because of what they think or are fascinated by what I used to do.
00:55:42.000Well, it's fascinating for people because they're never going to experience it.
00:55:49.000But still, you understand why that would be compelling to at least try to understand it or process it in your mind for someone who isn't going to experience it.
00:55:58.000Like for me, when I talk to you or if I talk to Jocko or anybody that's had a lot of experience I am fascinated.
00:56:07.000And I can understand why it would be something that you would want people to not be fascinated by.
00:56:14.000But for someone on the outside looking in, I want to know what that's...
00:56:19.000Because the only experience that we can sort of absorb is film.
00:56:26.000We could either watch Restrepo or watch...
00:56:28.000We talked about this last time I was on.
00:58:05.000Yeah, they're talking to the VFX dude.
00:58:06.000Okay, we'll get that explosion in the background.
00:58:09.000Give me an aircraft carrier going this way.
00:58:11.000Yeah, I mean, how could you ever make that authentic?
00:58:15.000I think Trevor and I were talking about Saving Private Ryan and the storm in the beach at Normandy was probably the only scene ever in a movie that accurately represents what it must have been like at that time.
00:58:25.000Some of them get it right, like snippets.
00:58:27.000I actually think we talked about this last time too briefly.
00:58:29.000Black Hawk Down gets a little bit right.
00:58:31.000You can get an understanding of like...
00:58:34.000The confusion, the sense of losing utter and complete control, not knowing what to do next, having limited information, having to make decisions on limited information, having to make decisions where somebody might live and others might die.
00:58:47.000You can get snippets of that, but I don't think there's any one film or TV show that captures it really accurately.
00:58:52.000Well, it's weird to me, too, when there's someone who you know...
01:00:03.000The whole famous guy playing someone else thing has got to be so fucking strange.
01:00:11.000If you're that person, like Jessica Lynch, if they did the Jessica Lynch story and Scarlett Johansson played Jessica Lynch, she'd probably be like, what in the fuck is going on?
01:01:20.000Here's the one example that I always use, and I'm sorry if you've heard this before, but the fucking end of the film, Mark Schultz in the movie has a UFC fight.
01:01:31.000And in the real world, he had a UFC fight against Big Daddy Goodrich.
01:01:36.000Big Daddy Goodrich is a pioneer of MMA, a famous fighter in the world of fighting.
01:02:35.000But when I see this Russian guy standing there, and then Mark Schultz gets in the cage to fight this Russian guy, I'm like, what are you doing?
01:04:03.000You know, they think they know better and they want to make something exciting and so they fuck with reality to turn it into a based on an historical event or based on a real world story.
01:04:15.000How you just described how you feel about those type of movies is exactly how I feel about them.
01:05:04.000But, you know, it allows you, you can take those experiences and do amazing, positive things with them.
01:05:08.000And Jocko is an example that I would point to with that.
01:05:11.000Not everything that happens in the military applies to the civilian world.
01:05:16.000You just can't take a lot of the things that the military does and apply them.
01:05:20.000But some of the things you can do are the leadership lessons, which Jaco does.
01:05:24.000I mean, he's freaking amazing at it, at taking those lessons and applying them and talking about them in manners that people can adapt them.
01:05:33.000But not all the experiences are that way.
01:05:38.000We should, I think, because people are fascinated with it Take what can improve society and so we don't have to relearn the lessons because, you know, I can't speak for Jocko, obviously, but the things that he learned and he talked about in his books or continues to talk about,
01:05:55.000those were taught to all of us instead of the military.
01:05:57.000And then somebody taught the person who taught us.
01:06:11.000But if they're all open and you have your choice, you can get yourself in trouble.
01:06:18.000Jaco is an example that I point to all the time of somebody who is taking those lessons that people are fascinated by and recapsulating them in terms that they can apply in their everyday life.
01:06:27.000Yeah, there's certain human beings like him that are their fuel.
01:06:30.000Like you can go to him and it will change your state.
01:06:35.000Like, you could go to Jocko's Instagram page and watch one of his videos, and it'll enact a physical change in your state, and it'll go, fuck it, I'm going to the gym.
01:06:44.000And you literally will go do something.
01:07:58.000It's people with time or people that are at work and fucking hate their job and they have free time where they can just leave comments and that's one of the reasons why so many of them are toxic.
01:08:16.000Technology is something I'm very fascinated by, and I'll go to a technology YouTube page, and I'll watch someone doing a review of, say, a new Linux laptop, and then I'll go into the comments.
01:08:33.000It's all nerds just talking about different builds and what they do for the kernels and this and that and how they break this down and restore that.
01:11:24.000Again, a lot of it I put back to people letting their emotions drive their behavior and the way they communicate instead of detaching from that and being objective, which is easier to let the emotions do it when you're angry at a keyboard.
01:11:35.000It'd be very hard to do face-to-face because there's consequences to your emotional behavior.
01:11:40.000There's consequences for sure, but there's also you realize what a cunt you're being if you say something really mean to someone.
01:11:46.000Even if you say something mean to a small girl, this 100-pound girl in front of you, and you say something mean, and you see her so that you feel bad, unless you're a sociopath.
01:11:56.000And then there's issues with that as well.
01:12:49.000So he disposed of the bodies in multiple grocery store garbage dumpsters.
01:12:56.000And then they eventually got caught because in the middle of the night they broke into a Hooters to steal t-shirts and got caught by the cops.
01:13:04.000And I believe it was in her purse they found a Spyderco knife with like hair and like basically tissue still on the knife.
01:13:30.000But again, so this is sociopaths out there, and this is another thing that I try to tell people often.
01:13:35.000The best people that I ever was around in my entire life was in the SEAL community, and my mortal enemies and the worst people I've ever seen on the face of the earth was in the SEAL community as well.
01:13:44.000He was the honor man in my BUDS class, which, if I look back, he had passed more evolutions from a statistical perspective than anybody else in the class.
01:13:55.000Viewing him through the lens of, is this person honorable?
01:13:58.000They weren't grading him by his integrity.
01:14:01.000But it just goes to show you that no selection process is perfect.
01:14:04.000And if you can't separate an individual from an occupation or a uniform or a black belt, right?
01:14:10.000If you think that because you have a black belt that you're going to be an awesome person or because somebody is a SEAL that you're going to be a great person, stand the fuck by.
01:14:18.000I don't want him as the anomaly to paint the norm, but it's important for people to remember that those people are out there.
01:14:26.000And again, they can leverage – from my background, they can leverage the fascination, the curiosity, people wanting to give back.
01:14:31.000I mean one of the most common questions that I get from people is – How can I thank people for their service?
01:14:37.000I'm like, well, A, just say thank you.
01:14:38.000And then my answer to them is B is provide them an opportunity if you feel it's necessary, but don't allow them – don't do anything for them and don't give them any special treatment.
01:15:13.000Provide the opportunities for veterans, but treat them exactly like the person who is in the cubicle next to them, if it's in that environment, obviously.
01:15:46.000And if that person is sociopathic or they are – there's a bell curve.
01:15:51.000There's a top 10 percent and the top and the bottom 10 percent.
01:15:56.000If he's in that bottom 10 percent, by holding him to that standard, you're going to get an objective viewpoint of that as opposed to just being blinded by whatever it may be.
01:16:03.000It's interesting, but only you can say that or someone in your position can say that.
01:16:07.000It's very difficult for someone who's a non-veteran to say anything remotely close to that.
01:16:12.000Well, I hope they listen then because they don't need to say that.
01:16:56.000Everything is based on tactics and standard operating procedures or TTPs, tactics, techniques, and procedures.
01:17:03.000And everybody is trained to those standards, so you know what to expect from somebody, whether they're from an East Coast team or a West Coast team.
01:17:09.000You can meet in the middle, and we all are taught to clear rooms the same way, and it's just – it's not complicated.
01:17:18.000Actually, the way to make us less effective and efficient would be to make it complicated.
01:17:23.000The simpler that you can make it, the better you're going to be.
01:17:55.000That applies to what's happening right now, too.
01:17:58.000So what you're talking about, you know, BUDS is a physical test.
01:18:04.000You're actually, I would say, having gone back as an instructor, which I learned much more about the process applying the curriculum as opposed to going through it, because as a student, you're just like, ah, I want this day to be over.
01:18:16.000As an instructor, you can kind of, and you also don't really know what you're going to do the next day as a student.
01:18:21.000As an instructor, I can look at the entire curriculum and I think?
01:19:32.000If you talk to people, where my experience has been is in talking to people, in their most dire moments where things are getting the worst, they're often more concerned about the people to their left and right than they are about themselves.
01:19:43.000My biggest fear probably, I know what it was in the SEAL community, but to this day, is that I am not going to be there when somebody needs me.
01:19:51.000That was my biggest fear in the SEAL community that I wasn't going to live up to the standard of the people to the left and right held at me and that they were going to suffer for it.
01:19:59.000I was more concerned about letting them down than myself getting hurt or killed.
01:20:02.000And that starts with that ethos from SEAL training, but it's not a complicated course.
01:20:08.000We're stressing the body to stress the mind.
01:20:11.000And if you look at the people who make it through, so when I went back as an instructor, As a student, when you're going through training, if somebody next to you quits, you never see them again.
01:20:21.000Like, there's no, hey, dude, what the fuck are you doing?
01:20:39.000You left a D1 scholarship to come here because you saw for yourself no value in the higher education and you wanted to come to the SEAL community and you quit.
01:20:50.000Time and time and time again, the answer I would get from the students is they got overwhelmed.
01:20:54.000So they were doing the opposite of keeping their world small.
01:20:57.000Because there's two ways you can look at BUDS. It's 180 days long, I think plus or minus one or two.
01:21:02.000Or you could look at it as a sunrise and a sunset 180 times.
01:21:07.000So you could look at a pie and go, oh my god, I have to eat this whole thing.
01:21:10.000Or you can look at a slice and eat the slice and not worry about the rest of the slices and keep doing that and doing that until the training process is complete.
01:21:28.000It's It's horrendous to go through and it's pretty entertaining as an instructor because you can just totally fuck with the students because they're off their rocker by Tuesday afternoon.
01:21:37.000But almost all of the attrition occurs from Sunday night until I'd say Tuesday morning.
01:21:42.000And beyond that, you're probably going to make it through because you've invested so much.
01:21:45.000But the advice that I was given when I went through was don't look at Hell Week as a five-day pipeline.
01:21:53.000They have to feed you every six hours.
01:21:54.000So if I can stack six hours on six hours on six hours and just focus on getting to the next meal, doesn't matter how much I'm in pain, doesn't matter how cold I am, if I can just get to the next meal, I'll get a reprieve, a mental reset, and I can continue on.
01:22:11.000That's That in combination with some, you know, the mental toughness is how you approach and set your goals and then resilience.
01:22:20.000And my definition of resilience would be the ability to get bent and come back stronger than you were before.
01:22:25.000And the way you do that is by bending yourself as often as possible, which...
01:22:29.000You do all the time by running sprints.
01:22:32.000You're mentally tough because of that.
01:22:34.000And if you can apply that resilience to setting and approaching your goals from digestible perspectives, you can accomplish an insane amount.
01:22:45.000I mean, it's a physical test, but we're just testing the mind.
01:22:47.000Can the individual ignore the big and focus on the small?
01:22:51.000Can you do the step that you need to do and not get overwhelmed, regardless if you're tired, exhausted, hungry, cold?
01:25:21.000They'll do races where they have to run, go out past the surf zone, flip the boat over for no reason other than it's difficult and it forces them to get wet, right the boat, come back in, continue the race.
01:26:19.000Like from a physiological perspective, there's ones that are faster runners and from a contractile potential, like more stamina or cardiorespiratory endurance.
01:26:30.000It's like probably like a 3% difference between the students.
01:26:32.000But these little pods of seven people...
01:26:35.000Some of them can work together and they're just crushing it.
01:26:37.000And other ones, you'll see, you know, there's oars in the boat.
01:26:41.000So when they run, they're stuffed on the top and you'll see they'll be out paddling and then you'll just see a sword fight start with people just knocking each other's heads off with oars.
01:27:22.000Plus they're out in the water and I'm not going out there.
01:27:27.000A lot of the times you're watching it through binos.
01:27:30.000It seems like that's one of those things that once you get through, and once you get through BUDS, and once you get through Hell Week, and once you get through all the difficult physical tasks, and you actually become a SEAL, how many people maintain that sort of Goggins, Jocko level of discipline and keep training constantly,
01:27:48.000and how many people do the bare minimum?
01:27:59.000And I can only speak from when I was in 2013. I left the last day of June of 2013. So if it has changed since then, I don't know anything about it.
01:28:08.000But the Navy, obviously you're a Navy SEAL, so you're governed by the United States Navy.
01:28:13.000They make you do a PRT, a physical readiness test, which is running, pull-ups, push-ups, sit-ups.
01:28:20.000And a swim, I think, because we're SEALs.
01:28:23.000And your wife could meet the standards.
01:28:27.000My 11-year-old daughter could probably meet.
01:29:28.000Again, hard to say because I know it has drastically changed since I was in.
01:29:32.000The amount of – so I was telling you before, I sat down with Henner Gracie yesterday and we were just talking a lot about his interaction with law enforcement and how they got started and it was with the Rodney King riots.
01:29:42.000Actually, I didn't know that but that's when they started interfacing with law enforcement.
01:29:46.000He had his dad, the generation before him, they started sitting on a panel, you know, talking about, I think essentially combatives with the, you know, hand on hand type stuff with the LAPD. But that's where it started and it's grown since then.
01:31:00.000I would have assumed that it would have been a core part of training, like from the beginning, just to build character and to understand what happens if you do lose your gun or if you are in a situation where you don't have a weapon.
01:32:16.000Increase the deadliness of these situations unintentionally and get yourself into a position where you might have to take somebody's life, but they didn't deserve it.
01:32:26.000It was actually your fault because you drove them to that point because you were not judiciously applying the pressure that you needed to.
01:32:33.000Well, you see that with police when you watch videos of cops trying to detain suspects and then they lose control of the situation.
01:32:40.000And it's purely because they don't have an understanding of how to control a person.
01:32:44.000I have a ton of empathy for law enforcement.
01:32:48.000If you're out on the streets and you have verbal commands and then a taser and maybe a pepper spray is in there somewhere, I don't even know if they still use that, but then your next resource is a gun.
01:32:58.000And you rapidly go through all those options.
01:33:00.000I understand how those situations occur and I'm not trying to justify them in any way whatsoever, but I understand what happens when you reach the limits of your tools and you're left with what you think is a life-threatening situation.
01:33:10.000Henner has some great videos of breaking down what goes wrong with police when they're trying to detain someone.
01:33:17.000I mean, it's oftentimes two and three on one and they wind up getting killed.
01:33:21.000There's videos of guys having a suspect on the ground and a suspect who's not trained in martial arts.
01:33:26.000But unfortunately, the cops aren't either.
01:33:29.000And they're doing these stupid things and hitting this person and trying to control them.
01:33:33.000And then the guy gets out, gets to his car, pulls out a gun and kills them.
01:33:37.000And I've watched a video like that recently.
01:33:40.000So the guy who got me into jujitsu is a sheriff.
01:33:45.000I actually just, the only reason I started is because I wanted him to shut up.
01:33:49.000I had known him for like a year and he's like, jiu-jitsu.
01:33:52.000And for me, it's like the harder you push that at me, I'm like, I'm not doing it ever.
01:34:01.000So, we were at my house, drunk, downstairs at the bar, and he was just like, you know, we were standing there drinking, he tried to put me like a standing head and armchair, he's like, this is how I would choke.
01:34:10.000He was like, if you start right now, you'll never tap me.
01:34:13.000He was a four-stripe white belt at the time, got his blue belt shortly after.
01:34:51.000But fortunately they have procedures like...
01:34:53.000I guess if you check in and then for a certain period of time, like if you don't, people start moving their car in the right direction, start coming to you.
01:34:59.000If you don't check in in a longer period of time, you know, the lights and sirens come on.
01:35:18.000And this is an interesting thing too that I've come to understand better, developing friendships with law enforcement.
01:35:24.000They come up to a car and they're just – they're doing a stop and it's another touch point for their day.
01:35:30.000But somebody in a car might be in the back of their mind thinking, oh my god, I have a misdemeanor or a felony.
01:35:36.000I might be going to prison for the rest of my life.
01:35:39.000So two very different head spaces as they converge.
01:35:43.000In this instance, I believe there's a pistol that was in between the driver's seat and the little center console.
01:35:48.000The individual went for it and somehow they came out of the car and it just became a scuffle at that point and they fought until other cops arrived and basically dogpiled on the person and ended it.
01:35:59.000And it was over, I believe they were at that for like 10 to 15 minutes.
01:37:01.000I saw some of the same stuff where you can elicit responses for people.
01:37:04.000I was resisting, but not a crazy amount.
01:37:08.000And the amount of pressure that they started applying to me, grabbing fingers and pulling my fingers back, I wanted to ramp it up, just like anybody else would.
01:37:20.000So without that skill or without that tool in their tool belt, You run out of options.
01:37:27.000I mean, they have a dangerous job as it is.
01:37:32.000And so after doing that defensive tactics, it's actually why I created this shirt.
01:38:01.000Hegan Machado, I believe, Howder, Matt, and then my coach, Travis, who you met the last time I was on, is the owner of the SBGs.
01:38:09.000But you talk to these guys and we do this session and You can see that their eyes are kind of wide, like, what the fuck just happened?
01:38:19.000And then the next thing I want to know is about cost.
01:38:22.000And Travis does an awesome job, and I think it's SPG-wide.
01:38:25.000They will give a discount for law enforcement, but I feel like it's so important for them, and I want them to be better at doing their job for my family.
01:38:32.000So I literally just made this shirt, and every penny that goes from the sale of the shirt, I'm going to start doing scholarships.
01:38:39.000Not all the way for the guys because they need to have some skin in the game.
01:38:42.000But I want to get as many law enforcement and first responders on the mats as possible.
01:38:46.000So I want to lower the cost working with Travis and the SBG organization to start with to just get people in the door.
01:38:54.000Because, I mean, you know this probably better than anybody.
01:38:57.000Like you don't actually have to know that much.
01:38:59.000To radically increase your safety, especially if you're dealing with somebody who doesn't know shit.
01:39:04.000Yeah, the average bluebell could manhandle the average human.
01:39:44.000So trying to raise as much, or not raise as much money, but sell as many shirts as possible and then go all that money towards scholarshipping those guys into the organization.
01:39:53.000Yeah, I think all martial arts, I mean, I think they should learn striking for sure.
01:39:57.000But I think that out of all martial arts, jujitsu for a law enforcement officer is probably the most important because the struggle for a gun, the struggle for, you know, getting ahold of someone pulling a gun and being able to control their arm and getting ahold of them, it's so critical.
01:40:23.000Or you see people start to clench their fins.
01:40:27.000You can see those behaviors in a simple arm drag where you can step behind and control the other arm.
01:40:33.000For a law enforcement officer to understand that concept and be able to do that, you're already in control.
01:40:38.000Whereas if you don't, you see the guy, and the next thing you know, you're in a boxing match, and it's like, I don't know, maybe you were a Golden Gloves boxer, and maybe your teeth are going to get fucking knocked out, and you're going to get a knock, your family's going to get a knock on the door.
01:40:50.000Yeah, I always try to tell people, you know, for every law enforcement video that you see where things went wrong, when someone was a piece of shit, and some cop did something horribly abusive, you've got to think of the millions of interactions that cops have with people who don't go.
01:41:39.000And a lot of times those are the ones you're seeing in these situations.
01:41:42.000And also, a lot of times when you're looking at these videos, you're looking at someone who's got severe PTSD. Untreated, unrespected, they're encountering every day, they're encountering liars and thieves, and at any moment, they're pulling somebody over and they could lose their life.
01:41:58.000At any moment, they're looking at this car, and it's got tinted windows, they don't know who's in the backseat, and they're like, fuck, is there a shotgun pointed at my face right now?
01:42:33.000I have a ton of empathy for people who operate in that world.
01:42:37.000And if you've never had to make decisions like that in time-compressed environments, it's hard to describe.
01:42:42.000Yeah, and I was driving down the street once in LA, and there was a billboard where they were trying to hire police officers, and they were touting how much money you get paid.
01:42:51.000And I remember thinking, looking at that billboard, that is one of the worst pieces of motivation.
01:42:59.000Like, if that's your motivation to be a police officer, look, you can get $35,000 a year to start.
01:43:07.000Because if you don't truly love the idea of being a law enforcement officer, if you're not truly in love with that, and you're just saying, oh, this is a good way to make $50,000 a year.
01:43:17.000There's better ways to make $50,000 a year than aren't going to have a risk to your life on a daily, hourly basis.
01:43:23.000Ideally, what you'd want is everyone who's doing it to want to do good for the community and want to make the world a better place.
01:43:31.000And then you get varying levels in between that and the people that are just doing it because they don't have another way to make 50 grand a year.
01:43:39.000It's kind of the same as military, too.
01:43:43.000The military is a stable paycheck, but if you're coming to the military for the money, you're probably better off doing a shorter tenure or tour.
01:43:52.000If you want to stay for longer and you want to dive deep, it probably, at least from my opinion, would be that you need to have some sense of purpose or calling that is coming from that occupation as well, because you're not going to get rich in the military, for sure.
01:44:08.000What you get out of that though, the one thing that I notice from military folks and just from, whether it's team guys or just people that have, there's a level of discipline that I know that you have.
01:44:22.000If you've had a successful career in the military, particularly if you're a team guy, there's a level of discipline that you have that gives me comfort.
01:44:30.000I'm like, I know this guy's got his shit together.
01:45:46.000So you see guys, they're just wildly entrepreneurial because they'll find something they're passionate about and then they apply that same concept of just continuing to go forward.
01:45:55.000They'll have micro failures, but they don't allow micro failures to impact macro outcomes, right?
01:46:01.000Because it's, again, small versus large.
01:46:48.000I mean, you might have to adjust it based on time constraints.
01:46:50.000But if you just write down, today I'm going to run four miles, I'm going to do 500 push-ups, I'm going to do 1,000 sit-ups, I'm going to do this and that and that and this, and then check it off.
01:47:02.000If you could just write shit down and make sure you do it every goddamn day, write down what you have to do that day, it's amazing what you can accomplish.
01:47:10.000My list would have none of those things on there.
01:48:23.000She was on this little side hill trying to put her skis on, and she just, whee, right into the trail, right when I was coming around a corner, and I was like, I'm going to kill this lady.
01:48:33.000And I wiped out, cracked my fucking head, but slammed my knee really hard, and I knew something was wrong, and then I went and got it checked, and I did an MRI, and there's actually a fracture in the shin bone.
01:49:38.000It's perfect because the frame is for pack.
01:49:42.000Outdoorsmen make an excellent hunting frame, a pack.
01:49:45.000It's like a really sturdy pack that I learned about from Remy Warren and Steve Rannell and these guys just swear by this one backpack frame because it's like super sturdy.
01:49:57.000And it's just excellent for packing out like elk.
01:49:59.000Like, you know, you've had to pack out an elk before.
01:50:01.000You don't know what weight is until you're going uphill with a fucking leg on your back.
01:50:11.000The difference between a backpack with a frame, like a Kofaru, a really well-made outdoor-centric backpack versus some bullshit backpack that's just designed to have a laptop in it and you're trying to carry shit for It's a big difference.
01:50:29.000Just the way the loading shelf is, and the way it straps in, and the angle that it's supposed to sit on your back, there's all science to it.
01:50:39.000So with these Outdoorsman's frames, you get the best aspects of an outdoor pack, but you have this big-ass post on the back, just like an Olympic bar.
01:50:50.000You slide those plates on it and clamp it down, and it all sits perfect.
01:50:56.000Insane workout with one of those on, one of those stairmills.
01:50:59.000Oh yeah, it'll change if your normal workout is without that and you just start light people.
01:52:26.000Because I was a little dizzy afterwards, I was with my 11-year-old and we were going on to the ski lift and I was out of it and the things come around and I timed it wrong.
01:54:11.000That's what I actually thought about that afterwards because you will see people who, you know, I'm here because I want to learn to protect myself in the street.
01:54:20.000And if I had done that on the street...
01:55:22.000Yeah, guys have gone for takedowns with guillotines.
01:55:27.000Like I said, a guy shoots in for a takedown, and a guy grabs a guillotine and pulls back, and then this guy's head is the first thing that hits the ground.
01:55:37.000Oh, because it's tucked under their armpit?
01:55:48.000In training, shoots in for the takedown, and the guy gets him in a guillotine, and all their weight together falls on this guy's head, and his neck compresses, and his neck breaks, and he loses his ability to move for the rest of his life.
01:56:05.000Not common, but it's happened multiple times that I'm aware of.
01:56:09.000And, you know, you gotta imagine on the street, you know, someone tries to take you down on the street and you elevate and go into a guillotine position and they fall down and slam their fucking head first.
01:56:19.000You're gonna crack it open probably too.
01:56:43.000Until you deal with a skilled opponent, and if you deal with a skilled opponent who has takedown defense, and then you're stuck in the situation where, okay, now you're in a realm where you're a white belt, and this guy's a black belt.
01:56:55.000Like if someone is a wrestler who can strike, it's a terrible position to be in.
01:57:00.000And we saw that with a lot of, in the early UFCs in particular, a lot of jujitsu black belts just didn't have takedowns.
01:57:06.000And then they would get involved with a wrestler Who would easily stuff their takedown, and the wrestler was a better striker.
01:57:16.000I mean, the only thing a lot of guys did was they would follow their back and try to pull guard and try to entice a guy into coming to their back.
01:57:22.000And then they would kick off their back.
01:57:24.000Like Hickson used those tactics when he fought Funaki.
01:59:45.000I watch them over in the corner and I hear just...
01:59:47.000I'm like, okay, I'm going to sit down.
01:59:50.000It's a beautiful thing to learn, though.
01:59:52.000It's a beautiful thing to learn if you can get someone that will really work with you and who's technique-oriented, not someone who just wants you to spar all the time.
02:00:02.000Because one of the things that happens with judo a lot when people are just getting involved in it There's a lot of scrambling on the feet that could put your legs in a compromised position when your knee blows out.
02:00:12.000How much is your time watching the UFC? How many of the takedowns do you see are judo-based?
02:00:17.000It's not that often, but some guys are really good at it.
02:00:20.000And the guys that are really good at it, it comes up.
02:00:25.000Back when Caro Parisian was fighting, Caro was a great judo player who was in the earlier days of the successful UFC, was one of the better judo guys, and he would hit hip tosses and all kinds of different judo throws all the time.
02:00:43.000And Ronda, of course, would do it all the time too, but...
02:00:47.000With Rhonda, that was basically the only way she would take you down was with upper body grabs.
02:00:52.000Her move was to grab the head and then take people down with that and use judo.
02:01:25.000You know, I mean, just, and again, with wrestling, see, I always say that if a kid wants to learn martial arts, like, there's a lot of good things they should learn, but one of the things they should learn first is wrestling, because it sucks so hard.
02:01:50.000I need to determine whether or not he was talking about his experience, other people's experience, or he was making up every goddamn thing he was saying.
02:03:27.000So he basically wants a huge shotgun with a huge magazine tube, but a barrel that sits two feet back from the magazine tube, so he'll just bounce stuff.
02:06:26.000They look good because they're big and fluffy, but it's so much crotch, crotch, crotch before you get to the real, there's like air in them.
02:07:42.000And I called him up and I go, dude, I've never been happier in my life.
02:07:45.000And I think that's one of the things that you really have to get into those valleys to appreciate, to really hit those peaks.
02:07:53.000I think that's what's going on right now.
02:07:54.000As you're saying that, I'm thinking about literally what's happening in this country, and I hope that we get to the point where we see the sun and we feel it, but then we have to also not forget.
02:09:14.000And then later on in the day, another person came out and downstream of that took a bath in the water.
02:09:21.000And later on in the day, a woman came out with two kids and got their drinking water downstream from both of those things and went back to their house.
02:09:47.000So that's the thing about people, that's this...
02:09:50.000The willingness to do something that you know is going to negatively impact others, but you don't care because in the moment it's good for you.
02:09:57.000Like when you see someone throwing a cigarette out the window of their car, that's a perfect example of that.
02:10:03.000They don't want that cigarette in their car, so they just say, oh, somebody else will handle it.
02:10:06.000Yeah, but if you see enough of those things or in that, it reframes the way that you look at what people complain about.
02:10:14.000And I have thought about that day very often because in that short period of time, it's just like, I don't ever really have that much to complain about.
02:10:23.000Like what's going to go on right now for the next few months, I would guess, maybe the rest of the year is going to be horrendous.
02:10:29.000And I hope that everybody makes it out okay on the other side.
02:10:32.000But the reality is people are going to die and it's going to suck and it's going to destroy families.
02:10:36.000And the economic destruction will probably be worse than the physical destruction from the death side of the house.
02:10:44.000But we're still going to be okay at the end of that.
02:10:46.000And even if it gets horrendous here, we are doing so much better than so many other people on the face of this earth.
02:10:54.000Their daily best is not going to even approach what it's going to look like at our worst as we navigate our way through this.
02:11:00.000My biggest concern is not just the deaths, which is a big concern, not just the financial crisis, which is also a big concern, but it's also the government gobbling up freedoms in exchange for the illusion of safety.
02:11:38.000Being objective, they're being emotional.
02:11:40.000And that clouds your vision and it clouds your judgment.
02:11:42.000And when they're not paying attention because they're scared because they're online all goddamn day looking at people taking pictures of the empty toilet paper aisle in the grocery store, other people who might have malicious intent are moving on that intent and nobody is paying attention to it.
02:11:57.000Yeah, that's where a lot of people that the more...
02:12:21.000Where there's moments where they can pass something like the Patriot Act or the Patriot Act 2, they do it.
02:12:28.000It's not because they've set this up to pass that.
02:12:31.000No, they use it as an opportunity because they know that people are scared and they use it as an opportunity to further diminish our rights because it makes it easier for them to control us.
02:12:43.000And it's something that people go, oh, that's the last thing you should be thinking about.
02:12:47.000No, it's one of the things you should be thinking about.
02:12:50.000There's many things you should be thinking about right now, besides your safety and your health and not spreading a disease and making sure you wash your hands and stay away from old people and maintain social distance.
02:12:59.000All that stuff is important, but also recognize what the fuck these...
02:13:04.000Career politicians and these career lawmakers and these career people that are in charge of controlling mass groups of people.
02:13:13.000Any laws that help you, any rights that help you, it makes their job more difficult.
02:13:19.000And that's something to be concerned with right now.
02:13:31.000But you have a choice in how you receive what is going on and you can allow the fear to cloud your judgment and drive your decision-making process or You can recognize that the fear of something, you know, fear of death overseas isn't what keeps you alive.
02:13:47.000Objective, analytical thought process and doing the things that need to be done keep you alive regardless of how scared you are or fearful you are.
02:15:23.000There's 100 deaths in this country, I believe.
02:15:25.000And I still think that those numbers are incredibly low.
02:15:27.000I think a lot of people are probably dealing – if you look at how they describe the symptoms, I bet a lot of people have already dealt with it and don't even realize it.
02:17:54.000Yeah, you could see him getting better as he was doing it, but he's doing like legit sparring, you know, getting thrown down, the whole deal.
02:18:00.000I didn't know you could throw somebody down if you caught their foot like that.
02:18:51.000No, and according to all who trained with him, I mean the guy trained as diligently and as hard as anyone that's a professional fighter.
02:19:01.000He just really went after it and really took it and took the approach of like that this is a life lesson and he's going to go at it with a hundred percent of his being.
02:21:09.000There was one of the gentlemen that was fighting on the undercard who has a scar that goes from the top of his thigh all the way down below his knee.
02:23:07.000I don't think Uriah got compartment syndrome because he didn't have to get cut open like Austin Hubbard did.
02:23:12.000But you think of it, it's fairly rare in terms of the amount of fighters that we see fight.
02:23:17.000I mean, I've seen thousands of fights.
02:23:20.000I've only seen one person have that injury to the extent that Austin Hubbard had it where he had to get the slice down the middle of his thigh.
02:24:54.000Yeah, the fact that he's uniquely fit and tough guy.
02:24:59.000But the thing about the shin, if someone just does it gently, like John Jones did it gently to Jim Norton.
02:25:07.000My friend Jim Norton is a series of fighters who have done things to him, like put him in chokeholds and arm bars and leg kicked him because he asked them to do it.
02:25:17.000And gently, just gently, just gently, just gently.
02:25:35.000There was a guy named Pedro Hizzo and he used to fight in the UFC in the heavyweight division and he fought Randy Couture and Randy Couture's leg was so fucked up from that fight that it took him six months to recover.
02:25:45.000Six months to recover from the leg kicks.
02:25:47.000He's the hardest kicker I've ever seen in all my years of watching people kick legs.
02:25:52.000I saw Pedro kick the bag at Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu in like the late 90s.
02:25:57.000I was there I forget what I was there for.
02:26:01.000And Pedro just happened to be doing a workout on the bag.
02:26:04.000And this was like the early days of big gyms in Los Angeles.
02:28:56.000What's interesting is they still, for some strange reason, I'm pretty sure, please Google this, are tie steel cups still allowed in MMA? I know Kenny Florian, throughout his career as a fighter, wore a tie cup.
02:30:04.000My friend Amir, Amir Renovardi, I rolled with him once and he mounted me and drove his dick into my chest with his steel tie cup and I was like, fuck!
02:33:27.000Hugo Martin, who was one of the- shout out to Hugo, who was the creator, one of the creators of Doom Eternals, this new amazing video game that's gonna ruin my life.
02:33:42.000So it doesn't say- Yeah, you have to, but that's MMA. Oh, okay, I thought this was the IBJJF. Yeah, see, so it's male mixed martial artist, shall wear.
02:36:53.000Yeah, I mean, you rarely see nut shots in tie fights, and I really think that's probably a big part of it, because they know there's a fucking steel cup there.
02:38:53.000And then we're relying on politicians to make these decisions and these choices based on disease experts who weren't adequately funded or prepared to take this on in the first place.
02:39:05.000Apparently, the Trump administration had gotten rid of the pandemic office.
02:39:09.000There was a whole office that's supposed to be...
02:39:11.000I've seen both yay and nay on that one.
02:39:15.000People are like, fact-checked it is not true, and then other people are saying that he did.
02:39:18.000That's a good question, because the woman who asked Trump kind of caught him off guard and he wasn't aware of it.
02:39:48.000I'm not going to deal in hypotheticals.
02:39:50.000She's like, well, this is a nonsense conversation, but it's this goddamn social justice narrative that people are still trying to push, even in times of crisis.
02:40:18.000Circle of influence versus circle of concern.
02:40:21.000Also, this is something that they know makes people upset and is something they know that can get a rise and something they know that can get traction in terms of a news story.
02:40:33.000Which is the exact opposite of what they should be doing.
02:40:36.000The one good thing about this is it highlights how much nonsense we put credence to, how much nonsense we spend time paying attention to.
02:40:46.000And when you're just trying to get food and toilet paper and stay healthy and not get a fucking killer disease, all those other things get thrown out the window.
02:41:06.000I really hope people come together and they realize that this is...
02:41:09.000We have had it so easy, and it's one of the reasons why we've been complaining about stupid shit, is because we had it so easy.
02:41:17.000Yeah, and I hope it tightens this social contract that we should have where we're taking care of older generations and everything in between.
02:43:56.000The idea of camo with animals is so interesting to me, you know, because when I first found out that animals don't see things the way we see things, they see movement.
02:45:02.000The opportunity is there for sure, though.
02:45:05.000I almost feel like, for me, I would have maybe gone and donated the meat.
02:45:10.000Because it's like, one of the things about, and people say, why would you do that?
02:45:13.000One of the things about hunting is, I think you have to do it a lot.
02:45:18.000It's like stand-up or jujitsu or a lot there's a lot of things Where the experience is so intense and so alien from everyday life that you have to be accustomed to like one of the things about Fighting that I always found like I fought way better when I fought often because of like like one of my biggest Tournaments that I won was the American Open that I won right at I fought one week and then I fought the next week and And I'm like,
02:46:19.000They need you to be a savage murderer in Lanai.
02:46:22.000Yeah, they fucking have 30,000 deer in a tiny island with 3,000 people.
02:46:26.000So they need you to, and also it's really hard to do.
02:46:29.000Like bow hunting on Lanai, one of the things that Dudley and I found out and Cam on our last hunt last year, we go, how many people are bow hunting this year?
02:48:53.000We had four days out there where it was...
02:48:57.000Just enough wind that it would swirl, and Barkle and I just trudge through and just discuss the most optimum ways to commit suicide in the evenings.
02:51:59.000What if one thing gets compounded by solar flares that knock out the power grid or an earthquake or multiple things that could happen simultaneously at any time?
02:52:09.000We're going to find out who people really are really fast.