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00:01:16.000Well, they were first given snitches for people who are violating social distancing, but now they're moving on to businesses that are non-compliant.
00:01:23.000But how are you supposed to make money?
00:01:54.000First of all, I'm sure what he meant is like a viable treatment, a vaccine, but they're saying that even a vaccine, there's never been a coronavirus vaccine.
00:02:06.000Mayor, LA will never completely reopen until we have a cure.
00:04:29.000But hey, I get along with people that are red, by the way, more a lot of times than I get along with people that are like, ideologically left, like without thinking about it.
00:04:41.000There's people that are left because they're compassionate and they want people to have freedom and the choice to do whatever they want to do with their body.
00:05:11.000We lived in San Francisco in the middle of where Lombard Street is.
00:05:16.000It was all just flower children and gay people and fuck this war.
00:05:21.000I was in San Francisco when the Vietnam War broke.
00:05:24.000Okay, when I was a little kid when it ended when when the war ended rather and I remember thinking like wow, they're never gonna have war again.
00:05:32.000Thank God because I was worried You know, there's people that were around me that were you know, if there was younger folks are worried about being drafted And so you were pretty indoctrinated with all that?
00:05:56.000It's like instead of thinking rationally and looking at the faults of both sides, the faults of one side are completely ignored or exonerated or, you know, you find a way to forgive it or to find out for...
00:06:08.000You do mental gymnastics until you can...
00:06:11.000Let them get away with all sorts of heinous shit, privacy invading shit, going after whistleblowers, drone attacks, like fucking across the board.
00:07:17.000Well, what's interesting I think on the left and what you're saying is it's more of a religion and it's a free-floating ideology that everybody's a bit enamored by, but they don't have that one personality that they rally around and that they focus on.
00:07:32.000And they feel like they don't have a voice either.
00:07:34.000So it's very similar feelings, I think, that drive that.
00:07:38.000And it's similar also in that the really far-left people are the ones that people point to when they mock the left, whereas the vast majority of them don't fall into that.
00:07:48.000And I've been hard on the left, hard on them.
00:07:52.000And rightfully so, I think, to a certain extent, because I do see a lot of the stuff like the language policing and the erosion of...
00:08:00.000Freedom of speech to a certain extent as deeply terrifying, but I've kind of been saying I see fascism, you know, on all sides kind of encroaching.
00:08:11.000There's elements of it, the creepy worship of the cult of personality, the, you know, just abiding by this mob mentality.
00:08:21.000And I've just been, I've been feeling pretty nihilistic.
00:08:25.000But isn't it also because you've been locked up?
00:09:35.000The sitting president, exiting president, literally hires or gets the FBI to investigate Trump.
00:09:45.000I don't know anything about Obamagate, but I did see a takedown of Obamagate that was pretty harsh, where the guy was like, it basically relies on you having to believe a series of conspiracy theories in order for it to even hold up.
00:09:58.000And I am going to sit here right now before everyone's all like, I know nothing about Obamagate.
00:10:21.000And that you're essentially using the FBI to spy on Trump.
00:10:27.000And then when it turned out that all that Russia stuff that they were claiming was going to happen didn't take place and that they knew it wasn't really happening to begin with.
00:10:35.000What they were saying was all exaggerating and hyperbole, and they were trying to turn it into something that it wasn't.
00:11:47.000Moving this girl around and she runs up this hill and as she runs up the hill you see like rocks falling and you see the shadows it's spectacular and Kevin said you know he tweeted it to me and he said look at this and imagine I believe he said 25 50 100 years from now of course we're in a simulation because this is this is going to be just as realistic in 25 50 100 years from now as the world that you're experiencing right now But isn't
00:12:17.000there the question that we don't know that this isn't?
00:13:24.000Both those guys, even though they're left, both progressive guys, they're very open-minded and very honest about what's going wrong and what's wrong about it.
00:13:33.000Jimmy Dore, especially, he has some fucking epic rants.
00:13:36.000An epic rant recently about when people tried to whitewash the negative things that happened during the Obama administration.
00:13:43.000He's like, you guys are gaslighting people.
00:13:45.000This is what happens when you have your standard, you know, this is the relationship, right?
00:14:20.000And then he said he was going to make him some serious Tubmans.
00:14:22.000They're taking over all the streaming.
00:14:24.000I saw a whole thing about how- Who's they?
00:14:27.000The Obamas, I think, they're getting into the streaming game, and I read somewhere that the Clintons are that could be wrong.
00:14:34.000Well, the Obamas apparently have some sort of a deal with Netflix to produce shows, documentaries, and then they have a deal where they're doing podcasts as well.
00:15:20.000But when you listen, if someone does an accurate job of breaking down what went wrong, particularly what's going on with this Flynn case, where they're trying to drop all the charges and then some new judges coming in saying, no, we're not dropping shit.
00:15:35.000I just feel so ill-equipped to process this stuff.
00:16:24.000Freaking pathway forward out of this ship show is it seems like it's gonna get worse before it gets better which is my fear it certainly is gonna get worse it has to get worse unless the the world starts back up and there's some sort of a shift in treatment some sort of a shift in and how much More survivable the disease is.
00:18:08.000Yeah, so nothing's open and no one's on the road, but there's just like this kind of drifter population in LA, and they're the only ones that you see, so it's so highlighted right now.
00:18:19.000Is anybody doing a tally on how many more homeless people there are?
00:20:42.000Michigan was one, and I can't remember the other one, maybe Pennsylvania or somewhere.
00:20:45.000So there's precedent, and there are people who are saying this isn't violating our rights, but I would really love to hear two people who aren't idiots, like me, have a discussion about whether or not this is the case.
00:20:59.000Johnson overturned it and then they had all these bars and all these people were just getting hammered in the bars and people were really pissed off because the bars are packed with people.
00:21:07.000I think people are getting pissed off because it looks like fun.
00:21:22.000They don't want anybody fucking listening to Garth Brooks singing, I Got Friends in Low Places, throwing back Jack Daniels and high-fiving each other.
00:24:39.000And again, I believe there was precedent for lockdowns like in the 1918 flu pandemic.
00:24:45.000I think this isn't because, you know, you talk about adversity and when this first started happening and people were asked to do this, I understand taking away someone's livelihood and not giving them any right to work is...
00:25:01.000But also, no one's had to make any sacrifice either.
00:25:04.000So we're talking about a generation that hasn't experienced much adversity and hasn't experienced having to sacrifice because my grandfather went off to war, you know, when he was 18 years old.
00:25:17.000He just went because it was World War II. But there was an attitude of sacrifice that you made for your country.
00:25:25.000And so people, I think, the reason people got so on board behind this was they felt like they were doing the right thing, their civic duty.
00:25:35.000I mean, I think a lot of it was fear for their own...
00:25:38.000But I also think that it was a sense of civic pride and duty, and I actually don't think that's a bad thing, that people rallied to help save our most vulnerable people.
00:25:50.000That's good, but at what point are we now hurting more people than we're saving?
00:25:57.000My thoughts on the lockdown in the beginning were, this is great because this shows that people can act together To protect people when they're not worried about it themselves.
00:26:08.000I know a lot of people that weren't worried about it.
00:26:09.000They're like, well, if I get sick, I'm healthy, and I take care of my body, and it seems like, according to the actual statistics, I'm going to probably be okay.
00:26:17.000But some people aren't, so it's lockdown.
00:26:25.000Let these super smart people figure this out.
00:26:27.000And the images coming out of Italy were terrifying.
00:26:30.000And, you know, my friend was in Italy.
00:26:32.000They were in lockdown in Rome for months.
00:26:34.000And they were all singing from balconies.
00:26:36.000And she said she was saying watching America from Italy.
00:26:40.000It's funny because you guys are so partisan about everything.
00:26:45.000She's like, we've been through so many wars in Italy that there's a sense that the community can suck it up and rally together for a little bit for the good of the community.
00:28:09.000Well, this one particular, it's a 100-year-old company, and they sell clothes up in Portland, and it was a dad and his son who were running it, and they were about to celebrate their 100 years, and they can sell the clothes online, but because they had so many huge brands,
00:28:25.000so many huge stores cancel their orders, and...
00:29:07.000Everybody else is basically not worried about it and doesn't want to get it.
00:29:12.000But now I know nine people that have gotten it.
00:29:15.000And everyone's been fine except for Michael Yeo.
00:29:18.000And I also found out yesterday that Michael Yeo told me that not only did he do all those things like fly to New York, do all the radio, do different shows, do the shows at night, fly back on very little sleep, and then drive to Vegas and drive home, but he's also vitamin D deficient.
00:29:35.000So when he saw the Rhonda Patrick podcast and saw the post that are put up on Instagram that showed how, you know, there's a massive difference between the number of people that are in critical condition in the ICU that are vitamin D deficient versus vitamin D sufficient.
00:29:51.000And the vitamin D sufficient was really low, like 4%, whereas the vitamin D deficient was a huge percentage of the people that were in the ICU. Huge.
00:31:54.000So we've been talking to just, you know, I reached out to my audience and A lot of people are okay, and so they're willing to make the sacrifice.
00:32:02.000A lot of people have their own health worries that they're worried about.
00:32:05.000People who are overweight or diabetic are obviously more concerned, and that's a problem in our country.
00:32:12.000One of the things that I've been thinking a lot about is just the school.
00:32:16.000And my uncle and I were talking about this that year...
00:32:22.000Kids who are in homes that are abusive or kids who already are at a disadvantage.
00:32:29.000Maybe they live in the vulnerable communities and education is one of the only ways out of their circumstances.
00:32:41.000There's already something, I believe it's called the summer gap, and they fall very far behind because they don't have, like, summer camps and they don't have all the access that some other kids do.
00:32:52.000And now they're missing almost a year or half of a year, six months.
00:32:57.000And this is time that these kids are never going to get back.
00:33:14.000Yeah, but it's a monetary thing, really.
00:33:17.000It really comes down to if you're poor, this is going to hurt you a lot.
00:33:21.000But this is also a disease where wealthy people can lose everything.
00:33:24.000People that have had a really good run and had a great business and built it up for years and years and years and worked hard, all of a sudden, boom, it could be gone and you could have nothing.
00:33:50.000There's a place by me that's one of the gymnastics places that I used to take the autistic kids to go to and I don't know how they're gonna make it.
00:33:58.000I don't understand how they're justifying keeping kids out of school.
00:34:01.000It's not a disease that is killing kids.
00:34:05.000The amount of kids that die from this disease are very small.
00:34:12.000So if you look at how many kids die from the flu and you look at how many kids die from COVID, we should be terrified of the flu.
00:34:17.000But yet, we'll let our kids go to school with teachers and we're not checking these teachers to make sure these teachers don't have the flu.
00:34:23.000Yeah, and they often go teach with the flu.
00:34:25.000Yeah, the real question is, do the teachers have something and can they give it to the kids and the kids go home and touch grandma and give it to her and give it to people that are vulnerable?
00:35:32.000Because the other thing that bothers me and worries me is mental health.
00:35:37.000I have a lot of single female friends and they haven't hugged anyone in like two months.
00:35:45.000This is what we do to people when we put them in prison, and we put people in isolation because it's really one of the worst things you can do to a human.
00:35:54.000And so all of these people in isolation who might already be wrestling with depression, anxiety, or whatever mental illness or problems they have now are alone and isolated, and I'm worried.
00:39:07.000And also, I think they were in a situation where they had a clear room in the hospitals because these new patients were coming in and they were running out of space.
00:39:14.000You know, the New York City situation is a different situation.
00:39:18.000They got it way worse than anybody else.
00:39:20.000They've had more than, I think, last time I checked, it was like 25,000 deaths, whereas the entire state of California is only at like 1,800 or something.
00:41:50.000People that don't know how to use a gun, never shot a gun, they're all lining up to buy guns.
00:41:54.000And then there was a lot of my friends who were super liberal who never wanted guns, who were asking me how to get guns, how do you shoot a gun, where do you go to practice.
00:42:03.000That was hilarious, watching liberals learn about their gun laws.
00:42:07.000I'm like, you guys voted for the, that my friends would be like, do you have to wait 10 days?
00:42:29.000My friend, I will not name him, but he's always had guns when he was younger and he's married and they have a kid and his wife was like, no fucking guns.
00:42:38.000You're never gonna have a gun in this house.
00:43:16.000If they start thriving and the cases go down, we understand better treatment methods and people take better care of their bodies and use smart nutrition, California's gonna be fucked and someone's gonna come along and exploit that.
00:43:30.000And say, this is what I would have done, and this is what I'll do now.
00:44:34.000This area, if you're in the movie business or the television business, any place where you have to get hired, the difference between podcasts, stand-up, and then having to get hired is massive.
00:44:45.000And you see these people that have been infected.
00:44:48.000You see these stand-up comics that have been infected by their connection to Hollywood?
00:44:52.000So they'll spout up some liberal horse shit, and then you...
00:44:56.000You ask them, you question them on it.
00:44:58.000They don't have a great rational response, but they know the virtuous thing to say, especially public when you're on a podcast publicly.
00:45:07.000They know the thing they have to say to be ingratiated with all these people that are going to hire them for projects.
00:45:13.000It's really fucked up because it's like a form of self-censorship by limiting your employment options.
00:45:20.000Well, this is how I ended up in this space.
00:45:24.000I got picked up by a manager for a script, and we were going to either try and sell a show or get into a writer's room.
00:45:31.000And then on Twitter, I was like, why am I self-censoring?
00:45:34.000And I was doing comedy a lot, and I kept feeling like I couldn't say...
00:45:37.000I was self-censoring around my comedian peers.
00:45:40.000And I was like, this is fucking weird.
00:46:48.000There was a Republican uncle, and one of my uncles was gay, and it was a whole mishmash of...
00:46:54.000And my grandparents were like, you do not fight about politics.
00:46:58.000Everyone's allowed to have their opinion, but you don't lose family members That's why this whole thing of like, you need to go to Thanksgiving and confront your fox-watching parents.
00:47:11.000There are always articles around Thanksgiving where you need to go home and confront your- Everyone who writes those articles is mentally ill.
00:47:19.000They're all mentally ill, anxiety-ridden, with a rotting foundation.
00:47:25.000If you really think that it's a good idea to confront your Fox News watching relatives and yell at them over Thanksgiving, you fucking idiot.
00:49:30.000And then when you find out how many different large tech organizations and people and influential people that he was involved with, it's crazy.
00:55:56.000I was partying like a legend and I got three bottles of wine and I drank an entire bottle of wine in the park and then my friend came and took me back to the ashram and I was hammered and I was crying and making a scene and he was like,
00:57:34.000Well, there was this Malaysian way of raking that was really interesting where we would mow, but then you'd rake it all into a line and you'd have to put it in a tarp and take it all away out of these fields.
00:57:47.000And it was like a really interesting way of taking away all the scraps.
00:58:17.000Non-stop drama with like all that and he encouraged it and loved it and that's what's weird about these places is they use that to manipulate you into staying.
00:58:44.000My friend Todd, who's a great guy, like not a cult member at all, super normal guy, he watched the first episode of Wild Wild Country and he was like, this looks great.
00:59:08.000Wouldn't it be great if we just all loved each other and we all embraced our fears and understood our position in the universe and were kind to each other and let go.
00:59:17.000Let go of all this fear and all this bullshit.
00:59:19.000And what better way to do it than to get a bunch of like-minded people and move to a spot in Oregon?
00:59:24.000Well, that was that in the piece I wrote about it.
00:59:27.000I said I had a lot of conflicting feelings because it's amazing how quickly my bio rhythms adjusted to waking up at five or six, you know, living just the lack of waste.
00:59:38.000We had the compostable toilets so that poor the poo became manure, you know, like manure.
00:59:45.000This was the same on the weed farms, too.
00:59:48.000And it's nice to just not feel like you're creating all that waste because I know that every time I get a package from Amazon, I'm like, ugh, this is not sustainable.
01:00:02.000I mean, all this stuff could be fixed, all this chopping down of trees.
01:00:05.000You could make some crazy number of, like, if you take 100 acres of hemp, how much more paper you could get out of 100 acres of hemp than 100 acres of trees, because you could regrow it every year.
01:00:20.000Whereas if you're regrowing trees, you're not making paper out of those trees for years.
01:02:07.000And I would love going in the morning when there was dew on the plants and there'd be sun coming up and it was just so, you could feel so much.
01:02:15.000There's something special about them for sure.
01:02:17.000There's something going on you feel when you're next to them.
01:02:20.000Especially if you go to a grow-up and there's like a bunch of them in the room.
01:02:23.000There's a tangible difference you feel when you're in the room.
01:02:25.000Almost like you're around these little angels.
01:04:24.000He also did the documentary The Culture High, which is another great movie on marijuana.
01:04:29.000But The Union is all about this one particular area where you see how intertwined pot growing is and how it's kind of accepted but still kind of illegal.
01:05:28.000You know, just going around, making sure everybody's following the regulations, check your fishing license, that kind of stuff.
01:05:32.000That's what he thought it was going to be.
01:05:33.000It turned out he had to run a fucking...
01:05:35.000Tactical unit to stop the cartels from these grow-ups and gunfights and they're using dogs, the sick dogs, where they sick them on fucking cartel members.
01:05:45.000It's crazy and it shows how it all starts for him, that they found this one diverted stream and it was a very important stream for Steelhead.
01:05:54.000And see, these fish were kind of fucked because the water had somehow or another been diverted and dried up.
01:05:59.000So they thought, well, let's just follow the stream, get to the source of it, and it's probably some sort of an issue that we can solve.
01:06:08.000Well, they get to the source of it, and it turns out there's a giant Mexican cartel illegal grow-up.
01:08:04.000Yeah, well, I'm sure that's going to happen with everything that's worth money, right?
01:08:07.000Yeah, but I have, I don't know, I have mixed feelings about that too, because in places where there's this beautiful soil, they're paving over the soil and putting up like huge domes where there's no ambient light, and now you have light pollution in places because they're growing everything indoor,
01:08:24.000because you can control it, obviously, so...
01:11:27.000Because they've started limiting it now.
01:11:30.000But yeah, I think my friend was just on the podcast.
01:11:33.000He works at Nautical Theme Grocery Store.
01:11:36.000And he was saying that he thinks that it's just like...
01:11:41.000I was asking him about the psychology behind this, and he was saying he thinks that one person would take three, and then the person standing next to them sees that and is like, oh shit, I need to take three.
01:11:52.000And then that person sees there's empty toilet paper shelves and people are stocking up, and then it just becomes this spiraling.
01:11:59.000And then you start seeing it online, and it became like a spiraling freakout, basically.
01:12:12.000I was a little worried in the beginning because I was worried that it was going to be as bad as they were saying.
01:12:15.000And then as the numbers came in, especially the numbers of people that weren't experiencing any symptoms and the numbers of people that went through it and didn't even know they had ever had it and they tested positive because someone in their family had had it and they had the antibodies and it's like,
01:14:48.000You know how you have, like, if you get an electronic ticket, you get that ticket, and you can bring it, and they scan your ticket, and then you can get on board a plane, right?
01:15:13.000The number one thing that we need to concentrate on is the number one thing that you don't hear a goddamn peep about, and that's nutrition and health.
01:16:56.000The way the economy goes, you will, correspondingly, you will see a loss of life.
01:17:01.000If the economy goes down, if there's more depression, if there's more drug addiction, if there's more suicide, you will see a loss of life that's directly attributable to the way people respond to the economy collapsing.
01:17:23.000In how the economy dips, you'll see a corresponding loss of life due to suicide, corresponding loss of life due to drug addiction and overdose.
01:17:31.000Look, depression is for sure, it takes in a lot of factors.
01:17:36.000Some people have it just genetically, some people have it because of the circumstance.
01:17:40.000As your circumstance erodes, it's much more likely that you're going to be depressed.
01:18:00.000So everything falls apart, and it kicks in people's resilience, and the people that survive are the ones that you're going to hear great things about.
01:18:07.000Yeah, I would have to look at the actual studies, because I'm not sure when it started counting the lives that were lost.
01:18:13.000My grandparents went through the depression and I used to talk to them about it.
01:18:16.000And when my grandmother died, one of the things, they found little coffee cans filled with money all over the house.
01:18:22.000Dollars and change and store them in all different places.
01:18:28.000I mean, I've been poor for so long in terms of being freelance writer and always, I do a weird thing where I don't invoice and all of my editors are like, we owe you money.
01:18:38.000But it's that psychological like, oh, I have money.
01:19:50.000I think that even my friend who I interviewed, he was saying people are thanking him for his service and he hates it at the nautical grocery store.
01:20:01.000But I think that it's people who have never even had to consider the food supply chain are considering it.
01:20:09.000And they're suddenly like, oh my God, thank you.
01:20:12.000Remember how they were really pumped about firemen?
01:20:47.000Because I used to consider, like, oh, well, if there's a natural disaster, like if Yellowstone blows, you really want to be right next to it.
01:20:55.000You don't want to be surviving nuclear winter when everything becomes fucking horrible gray sky wasteland and everyone's freezing and choking.
01:23:15.000But now the conspiracy theorist in me is like, now they're going to see how far they can fucking push it.
01:23:19.000Well, I don't think that's a conspiracy theory.
01:23:21.000I think that is just like your cult friend that was calling you a scumbag and trying to break you down.
01:23:27.000When you're in a position of power, there's an archetype of a person in a position of power and then all the potential things that can go wrong when a person's in a position of power.
01:24:40.000He's a human being who grew up in the United States of America, and he has this incredible amount of power, over 40 million people in the state.
01:24:47.000And he's deciding, we're going to go step one, and you're going to allow it to be, go outside and look at the sunset.
01:25:39.000This is a good time to work on your health.
01:25:41.000Because what you're seeing across the board is vulnerable people that are getting really sick from this.
01:25:47.000Whether they're vulnerable because they have underlying health conditions, or they were stressed out, or they're hospital workers, they're vulnerable because they're getting this massive viral load from all these people.
01:26:52.000You're supposed to be in jail for 30 years, but we're gonna let you out because we don't want you to get a cough.
01:26:56.000Yeah, I don't, all of it, again, I come back to trying to stay optimistic in the face of conditions that feel like they're rapidly deteriorating.
01:27:33.000Do you know how much the alcohol consumption is up?
01:27:35.000If any indication of how much bread I've been eating is how much weed and beer and alcohol I'd be consuming, I would be in the hospital with cirrhosis of the liver.
01:27:47.000Yeah, you're just using that, the bread.
01:29:32.000There was that meme that was going around that was hilarious, like, pray for the teachers next year who are going to have kids coming in who have been taught by their moms or their parents who have been day drinking.
01:29:47.000I have been day drinking, but I've been drinking wine.
01:30:20.000It says, while most people in the United States remain stuck at home during the COVID-19 pandemic, many are increasing their alcohol purchases and likely their consumption.
01:30:28.000No, they're just stockpiling it and using it for hand sanitizer.
01:30:32.000According to the data reported by Nielsen, an international measurement of the data analytics company, so up 55%.
01:30:39.000Off-premise alcohol sales were up 55%.
01:30:41.000So I wonder what that means in terms of overall, like what percentage of alcohol sales were done in bars and restaurants, and what percentage was, I guess that's what off-premises means.
01:30:52.000Yeah, you would have to really know what, that would be hard, yeah, you'd have to know how much alcohol was sold to the restaurants yeah and then all that's hard to find because it's usually through it's not like a retail you're getting it right 55 is a big number though yeah that's big but i think a lot of i i mean i i don't know if i if i was drinking i'd be drinking a lot i can tell you that all my this is what the reason i brought it up is the friends that i have were like you know they would maybe have a glass of
01:31:22.000wine at night now they're going through a bottle or two every night that was my normal but yeah this is fill out yeah everybody's getting thick Yeah, I was, I definitely the first, you know, like I was saying, the first three weeks, I was kind of sick.
01:31:33.000So I started baking bread because I needed a challenge because I couldn't work out.
01:31:37.000And man, that like, the COVID-19 is real.
01:31:42.000Now I have another, now I have another challenge.
01:32:12.000We call it Something is Better Than Nothing because all of us, the first couple weeks, were just off the rails with the, like, sweets and my other sister was baking and...
01:36:04.000Fox, there's been speculation for the NFL that they're going to pump in, I think probably just for the people watching, but crowd noise and fans, like fake fans.
01:36:44.000Are they just trying to get us to be in our house and order shit?
01:36:46.000I was joking that this is a plot by Amazon and Netflix to just get us all inside.
01:36:53.000I was joking this is a plot from AI to get us to the symbiotic relationship that's inevitable.
01:37:02.000Where human beings are going to merge with some form of technology.
01:37:06.000It's already happened with things you carry around like your phone or your glasses or something that someone's made that you can't live without that makes your life better.
01:37:14.000It's eventually going to be a part of you.
01:38:07.000This is something that's going to be around.
01:38:10.000We might have herd immunity and might be able to wipe it out that way, but this is not something that they can just spray away or inject away.
01:38:18.000So this is something, well, hopefully one day they'll have some sort of a real treatment, whether it's a vaccine or whatever it is.
01:38:23.000We're probably going to have to take a vaccine every couple years or every year or something like that.
01:38:51.000But there's people that want to get back to work, and there's people that don't want anyone to go anywhere.
01:38:57.000And it's become this sort of, again, this ideological battleground where the people that want to go back to work, you're putting dollars over money.
01:39:07.000You know, like someone said, you're going to be the richest man in the cemetery to Elon Musk because he wants to open up his factory.
01:39:40.000If you're using these to help people manage pain, but you know a certain amount of people might become addicted or die, there's all kinds of trade-offs that we're making.
01:42:16.000Yeah, I mean, it's been somebody, I think a writer, I forget her name, Megan, someone, she had a tweet.
01:42:24.000She said, it's a blacklight No, it's a, yeah, it's a blacklight on, like, the sperm-filled hotel room, basically, the pandemic.
01:42:34.000It's just revealed, like, all of these institutional failures and all of the structural failures and all of the ideological battleground is up to 11 now.
01:42:47.000Most people are wrestling and don't know really what to do, but I think most people are grown up enough to want to be able to take that risk for themselves.
01:42:57.000I walk around, I see all these businesses, I'm like, how are these businesses going to come back?
01:45:23.000And I read a thing about how a college might go bankrupt, too.
01:45:27.000So I don't know how the schools are going to stay afloat.
01:45:29.000A lot of private schools that are charging exorbitant rates and expect people to do that shit in front of a computer, they're going to go under.
01:47:30.000The idea is socialism has never worked.
01:47:32.000But the way he describes it is democratic socialism.
01:47:35.000He doesn't describe it as a socialism where you're thinking about some sort of military dictatorship like North Korea or something like that or China.
01:47:43.000When you equate those two, that's when people get weird.
01:47:45.000But the problem is whenever people get in the kind of position of power where they have this big government machine and they control over people, they abuse it.
01:47:57.000Our health care system sucks, but I don't know that I trust the government to make it better because there's nothing that they do that they do very well.
01:48:09.000No, there's not one thing you're like, well, they're really good at the post office.
01:48:24.000But other than that, I don't know that I would want...
01:48:27.000I think that the healthcare thing drives me crazy because I don't I'm again I just feel hopelessly dumb and it's such a huge massive problem and it causes me and so many people I know you know debt and problems and it's not fair to you shouldn't I don't understand why it's tied up with your job like that seems like a really silly idea that makes no sense to me Right,
01:48:51.000and if you do have a nationalized healthcare system, what do you do about people that abuse their body?
01:49:08.000Do you say, well, all our tax money is going to go to you because we have to keep you alive?
01:49:13.000But that's why I understand from a heart perspective.
01:49:18.000You know, I think when I was reading this stuff that I wrote when I was like 24 and I was a waitress, and I was like, holy shit, I was AOC. Like, I sound like AOC. Oh, that's interesting.
01:54:09.000He sounds like a character in a movie.
01:54:12.000Mansef Slaoui, former pharmaceutical executive at the White House.
01:54:17.000Chose to lead a crash development program, acknowledged that the 12- to 18-month timeline cited by Dr. Anthony Fauci was already very aggressive, but one by January is possible.
01:56:46.000Sam has had quite a bit of experience with not just meditation, but all sorts of altered states of consciousness and those silent retreats.
01:56:55.000He goes to those silent retreats where no one says anything.
01:57:01.000So, yeah, when I was in Sri Lanka, it was the last time I used LSD, and I was determined to use it intentionally because I couldn't hold joy.
01:57:14.000I come from a pretty chaotic upbringing, and every time I would...
01:57:20.000Be in a place where I was experiencing joy and having fun.
01:58:56.000Hunter stole this sign from the O'Farrell Theater in San Francisco, signed it and gave it to a friend along with 20 hits of acid as a wedding gift.
02:04:05.000If a company owns something, there's two arguments, and like there's the David Pakman audience, which is an argument rather.
02:04:12.000David's argument is that, I hope I'm not misquoting him, he'll be on soon, is that the company should have the ability to set their own guidelines and remove people from the platform if they say things that they feel are objectionable or things that don't align with the way the company views things.
02:04:32.000The problem with that is if it gets so big that the company's got trillions of dollars and it's seen by billions of people every day, and then who gets to make the decision that what they're saying is objectionable?
02:05:51.000That's what everybody would say that's thinking about it logically because the problem with silencing these people, particularly like the 5G folks, right?
02:06:39.000I'm with you, because I'm pretty much a free speech absolutist, I think.
02:06:43.000And then, even when I was thinking, I was reading Sam's book, and he mentioned something.
02:06:49.000It has nothing to do with free speech, and I don't really know where he stands on all this.
02:06:54.000I was just thinking when you were talking about how he was mentioning just how that ideology led to someone flying a plane into the trade centers.
02:07:05.000You know, so bad ideology is something we have to eradicate with more speech, obviously, but it's also...
02:07:54.000Some of the, you know, I don't really know anything about Milo, but I do know that he's been pretty much, like, de-personed.
02:08:02.000I don't even know if the guy can get, like, a bank, you know, I think once they have trouble getting, like, bank accounts and stuff, or they can't get, maybe it's not bank accounts, but, like, Venmo, you know, they get banned off of the PayPal,
02:08:21.000I guess it's just the early warning signs of people interfering with being able to make a living, but how are they supposed to make...
02:08:29.000What's tech deciding that they don't want you on their platform?
02:08:31.000And if they're in a position like Venmo or PayPal, and that's what you're using for donation, they can say, your ideology doesn't match up with the values of our company.
02:10:01.000I think that at a certain point in time, we have to look at whether it's the ability to tweet something or post a video or make an Instagram post.
02:10:17.000This is a way to express yourself that we should all enjoy along with the same way we enjoy the idea of free speech and the ability to assemble.
02:10:29.000The ability to assemble and talk about things.
02:10:31.000This is very similar to what these tweets are.
02:11:04.000When people find out that You know, like the Veritas stuff, you know, that guy, Project Veritas, James O'Keefe, when he was exposing that these Twitter executives were saying how they were talking about the strategies they use to silence MAGA users,
02:11:23.000to silence Trump supporters, and you just find certain algorithms and things they say, and then you make it so it's difficult to find their page.
02:12:29.000If I'm talking to a female friend, I'll be like, dude.
02:12:32.000It's a normal thing that men and women say to each other.
02:12:35.000Even if they're just friends, it has nothing to do with someone who's trying to insult somebody or pretend that you're a guy or misgender you.
02:13:17.000So if you used to be a girl and then you decided to transition to be a guy and I insist on calling you Bridget on Twitter, I'm banned for life.
02:15:38.000We've got to be really clear, because I don't want anybody to be upset.
02:15:41.000But there are impressionable people that, look, somebody talked those fucking Heaven's Gate guys into cutting their balls off and waiting for the comet that was going to take them away to some other planet.
02:15:52.000You could talk someone into being gay.
02:16:04.000Could someone talk you into being trans or is that the one thing you can't talk a person into being?
02:16:10.000Because you could talk a person into being a whole lot of things.
02:16:12.000Well, I wonder, too, if it's, you know, culturally just one of these things that they're trying on like a loose garment, but then because they've done a lot of studies.
02:16:22.000And you're not talking about everybody.
02:16:26.000But I'm just saying that maybe they've done a lot of studies that many times when kids experience gender dysphoria when they're younger, a lot of the time they'll grow out of it.
02:16:37.000Well, a lot of time they become gay men.
02:18:32.000I don't know how you can co-sign on that and be like, yes, this child who should be listening, you know, this child knows what's best for them.
02:18:39.000I wanted to do a lot of fucking things when I was a kid that I couldn't do.
02:18:44.000You know, if I wanted to become, if I was a talented musician and wanted to go join a band and I was some kind of phenom at 14, my parents would have been like, oh, too bad, you have to wait.
02:18:53.000They would have made me They would have said, you're too young to go do that.
02:19:11.000Here's the thing, it's like, the people that say that it's not something that you should be hesitant about, it's not something that should concern you, those are the people that have a problem with it, because what is your justification?
02:19:22.000Like, you must have some massive generalization, or there must be a switch that you know of that I don't, that someone is definitely trans or not trans when they're young and they're confused.
02:19:33.000Because it's the one thing that they know about, if you asked a three-year-old, what are you going to be forever and you can't change it, what's going to be your occupation?
02:20:09.000That's why the idea of being blanket for kids transitioning with hormone blockers and all this crazy shit like I had a conversation with Adam Conover about it and It was like a big viral moment for this discussion and people called me a transphobe like Nothing could be further from the case.
02:20:56.000And then when I ask you why you're so certain and you don't have good answers, I'm like, okay, this is a cult thing.
02:21:03.000You're in that cult and you know there's things that you have to say in order to be accepted by that cult.
02:21:07.000Yeah, that's what worries me is that it's more like take away from the children.
02:21:12.000I allow for kids to explore and whatever.
02:21:16.000I think it's great that society is more open because phobias of any like transphobia, homophobia, these are not helpful for our society in general.
02:21:29.000I do worry that parents eager to be progressive, you know, warriors for their team and in these progressive enclaves where they're trying to kind of outwoke each other will use their children as Means to,
02:23:24.000But anyway, my point is that people often use their kids as billboards for whatever signaling.
02:23:30.000I was watching some, it was a bunch of people protesting the lockdown, and this little kid was chanting something at the dude about fake news.
02:23:39.000And I was like, this is what we do to kids with, you know, sports.
02:26:38.000Yeah, it's weird to see the convergence of the anti-vaxxers and all of this talk, because I wrote a piece about, it was like a satirical piece, I was saying why Stop getting mad at antifaxers for bringing disease into the herd and it was all about it because it was during like the measles outbreaks which we've almost eradicated and now it's making a comeback and There's so much overlap in those Communities now with this
02:27:09.000yeah, but you can't really conflate the two because we know how to get rid of the measles We know we can get rid of the measles.
02:27:16.000We have something that works and Right, but it's a liberty thing.
02:27:20.000See, the problem is whenever you start telling people what they have to do, even if it's good for them, they get mad.
02:27:25.000Well, and even with the vaccine thing, I don't like to be so black or white about even that because there is a conversation to be had there.
02:27:32.000Is it good to have vaccines that protect the herd immunity from diseases we've pretty much eradicated?
02:27:39.000Yes, because you're putting a lot of other people at risk and pregnant moms when they go to the waiting room, and there's so many side effects if somebody has measles.
02:27:47.000But Should they have 67 vaccines in order to attend school, including HPV? That's not herd immunity.
02:27:56.000Why do they need to get the California...
02:27:59.000Why do they need that when they're babies?
02:28:22.000When someone says, we have to get a vaccine, and everyone's going to have to take the vaccine, people automatically get cautious.
02:28:29.000And then when that person's a billionaire that might be connected to the Illuminati, you're like, hey, this fucking guy's going to make money off this vaccine.
02:29:59.000It's like a microblogging service, and I think Milo's there and Gavin's there, and it's a little bit like Twitter, but it's kind of like...
02:30:41.000And he was definitely doing some stuff that...
02:30:46.000There's a question of whether or not there was multiple accounts that he was using to anonymous accounts.
02:30:54.000That was an accusation, but Twitter didn't want to substantiate that when I talked to them about it because I think they're worried about the legal ramifications.
02:31:02.000Yeah, it's problematic because you end up, you know, as someone who's kind of all for free speech, I often get told that I'm bad because I have to defend people whose language I don't agree with.
02:31:20.000It's not defending everyone who says things that I love.
02:31:24.000It doesn't make any sense because that means you're right all the time.
02:31:26.000Like if you're only defending the things that you believe in.
02:31:29.000You write all the time about everything?
02:31:31.000But I have to defend the people who say things that are even atrocious and that I would never get on board with because that's what free speech is.
02:31:41.000And like you said, it is that slippery slope of who gets to be the arbiter of what is said.
02:32:11.000Because your ideas are contrary to my ideas.
02:32:13.000I'm going to cut off the pipeline for you to express those and work those out.
02:32:17.000And look, there's a lot of people that had some terrible ideas early in their life, and then they changed.
02:32:21.000There's that guy, what's his name, Christian Picciolini, who was in the KKK. He was in some sort of white supremacist organization when he was young, and now he talks about the dangers of these organizations.
02:32:33.000It's like me being AOC when I was young.
02:32:49.000So if you're taking everything away from somebody and then you're saying you're in the bad place now forever, What is their incentive to even open their mind and have a different—why not just double down?
02:33:54.000Because if, look, this is how I feel about televangelists, right?
02:33:58.000If you're so dumb, you want to give Joel Olsteen all your money even though you're poor because you think that somehow or another this is going to save you and God's grace is going to be upon you because you tithe all your money to Joel Olsteen and he drives around to Bentley and you're happy for him.
02:34:23.000If you're so fucking dumb, you really believe that David Icke's seen people's eyeballs shift over and that there's lizards that are secretly transforming into politicians and then going back to lizards when no one's looking.
02:35:39.000So David Icke was talking about 5G. From what I said, what I read rather, I don't even, because I didn't watch the whole thing, but I don't even think he was saying that 5G causes it.
02:35:48.000But he was doing some wacky, very articulate conspiracy shit.
02:36:00.000This is what we need to accept about people like David Icke and a lot of these people.
02:36:04.000There is clearly a lot of entertainment value in someone saying preposterous shit that any intelligent person knows is not true.
02:36:14.000There's some weird entertainment value in someone that really does believe that aliens live amongst us and that they're shapeshifters and that if you look back, all of our leaders have all been...
02:36:28.000Related together and they're one gene pool that the ancient Sumerians brought together.
02:38:14.000Why is it only acceptable if you have some kind of entertainment?
02:38:17.000Because there's so many rap videos that you could watch that I enjoy, but they're talking about shooting people and robbing people, and it's...
02:38:48.000It's so complicated and it's not just a or you know, it's not like one tribe or another has I I'm very Skeptical of anyone who's all in on like 100% this is the way.
02:40:13.000There's no logic to anything people are doing.
02:40:15.000If you're trying to look for logic in what's popular or human behavior or what people are really excited about, like what's scaring them, what's good and what's bad, this is the guy.
02:41:26.000So you're ultimately, after our long-winded, slightly terrifying conversation about the culture, ultimately, who do you think, do you think Biden's going to make it to the election?
02:41:37.000Well, it's going to be a joke if he does.
02:41:39.000The idea that people are all in on Biden.
02:41:42.000I don't think if they let the two of them talk in the same room and have some sort of a debate, I think Donald Trump's going to eviscerate him.
02:41:51.000I don't even think he's going to be close.
02:42:37.000Like when you can't find something, it's like the error page.
02:42:41.000I think this made it into one of our earliest episodes of Dumpster Fire because we have a whole segment on the show called Troll in Chief and it's basically like every week, what the fuck is he doing?
02:48:06.000We live in a world and society where people don't know who to trust, so it's easier to just get on board somewhere ideologically for your own brain.
02:48:59.000You know, the press thinks they're David and Goliath, but it's really like Goliath and Goliath, and all the people just desperately looking for truth are the little Davids out there trying to make sense of it.
02:49:13.000There was that frickin' thing last night on...
02:49:16.000Anderson Cooper had, you know, they had Greta on.
02:49:18.000And then they talked to Greta, and then he manages to take precious time during the pandemic To talk about the fact that people on Twitter were giving him shit because they put Greta Thunberg on there as an expert.
02:49:32.000I'm like, how do you guys manage to always fucking make the news about you?
02:49:37.000There's so much shit going on in the world and you're worried that people called you out because, yeah, nothing says this isn't an overblown hoax.
02:49:47.000Like there are people who think this is a hoax and there are people who think that it's a doomsday call, the pandemic.
02:49:53.000And then the way that they're gonna calm people down is by putting grit on!
02:49:59.000Well did you see CNN had this thing where Rand Paul was talking to Dr. Fauci and then this is the title of the argument or the title of the article was something along the lines of Rand Paul says to to Dr. Fauci you're not the end all hear his response You know what it really said?
02:50:19.000What he really said, he went over this, first of all, Rand Paul is a real doctor.
02:50:31.000He needs some vitamin D. He survived it, and he also survived it with a fucked up lung that he got when his neighbor attacked him and broke his ribs.
02:50:39.000They had to remove a piece of his lung.
02:50:42.000So this guy was in rough shape before he got COVID, and then was describing to Dr. Fauci his reservations about the advice that Fauci is given and then the direction that the current government is the way the way they're handling this in terms of like locking people down and making people stay at home and he had some reservations about that it wasn't simply like he like said some awful thing to Dr. Fauci like you're not the end-all he said basically with all due respect and
02:51:12.000As much as I appreciate you or as much as I respect you, I don't think you're the end-all for this.
02:51:17.000And then Dr. Fauci's response was, I am not the end-all for this.
02:51:21.000And what I am is a biological virus scientist, or whatever the fuck he is.
02:53:27.000How is that not a huge part of the news today?
02:53:30.000Because people actually get fucking pissed off about stupid petty shit, because I think they can get their minds around it, and when it comes down to like, oh, they can now search your internet searches without a warrant, everyone's like, I can't deal with it.
02:53:45.000Yeah, but Bill Maher told Rose McGowan in the 90s that he has a huge cock.
02:53:49.000Why aren't we marching in the streets?
02:55:07.000You ever do that when you're around people and you just drop a word that you probably shouldn't say and people are like, did she just say cunt?
02:55:58.000Because AB5 makes it impossible to be a freelance contractor, basically.
02:56:02.000It was why freelance writers were trying to...
02:56:08.000Get her to make revisions and now she has two more bills that are revising.
02:56:12.000I'm like, when your bill is so bad that you need other bills to try and fix it, because she didn't think of all the consequences of this bill.
02:56:54.000And so people in California were losing their writing contracts because companies in D.C. and places in New York were like, we don't want to deal with this because we basically have to make you an employee.
02:57:09.000It basically kills your ability to be a freelance worker.
02:57:13.000Yeah, it's nuts if you haven't I'm not an expert on this my friend Kira Davis she's down She is like deep down the rabbit hole and She's been you know fighting for because it hurts like manicurists it hurts Anyone who's basically freelance anyone who gets anyone who gets a Why am I blanking on it?
02:57:36.000What is it where you get like a freelance if you hired a designer and You know, up to a certain amount of money, you have to basically make them employee.
02:58:29.000The unions talk them into passing it this way?
02:58:32.000It's something to do with the Uber driver, the rideshare drivers.
02:58:37.000Because her argument is that it's to protect workers like Uber and Lyft drivers who the company can say, you're working a gig and we don't need to protect you at all or give you any kind of benefits or give you sick time or anything.
02:58:58.000And so it forces you to either join a union, basically.
02:59:04.000So her argument is that it's protecting vulnerable people from being exploited by these big corporations, which there has to be a way to do that without forcing everybody either to become an employee, because she's saying, basically, you can't work.
02:59:19.000Like she said to me as a freelance writer, you cannot work You can't write more than 32 freelance pieces per month or you'll have to be employed by whoever you might be writing.
02:59:33.000Now, if you're a freelance writer, some of my friends are cranking like a hundred of these things out.
02:59:41.000There are people who are much more educated on this than I am.
02:59:45.000I know very little about it, because basically the way you protect yourself, if you're someone like me, who I get 1099 by everyone, I get 1099 by Patreon.
03:00:40.000I wish that I could believe that, but just seeing the way she behaves, even when anyone calls her out, I mean, there's a whole website devoted to people who are telling stories of how I had three friends who were writers who had to leave California.
03:00:52.000So people were leaving California before any of the pandemic because they couldn't make their living here anymore.
03:01:58.000Yeah, it's something that I wish got more attention, and it's definitely something that was turning people red before all of the pandemic and the lockdown.
03:02:07.000When Tulsi Gabbard was on, she said fuck a couple of times, and I was like, she's running for president.
03:03:27.000That's been the other weirdest part of this whole fucking clusterfuck that we've been talking about is watching the Trump is literally Hitler crowd.
03:03:35.000For a while, they were all calling for him to institute martial law.
03:03:46.000Well, no, but they wanted Trump to institute federal martial law.
03:03:50.000I'm like, you want the guy that you're saying is literally Hitler to take over the whole country and not let every state do what they're supposed to do?
03:04:08.000I'm trying to understand it, so I didn't want to bring it up too fast.
03:04:10.000But a federal judge just passed something that said Los Angeles has like a week to move all homeless people away from the vicinity of a freeway or underpass.
03:04:22.000It's unreasonably dangerous to allow people to live in areas that may be contaminated with lead and other toxins or that carry increased risk of being injured or killed in a car crash or earthquake.
03:05:22.000So if they're looking at that, and then they're, you know, if you're going to buy a house in Brentwood, like you invested all your money, you've saved, you finally were going to put our first money down on a home, honey, and then you look like...
03:06:42.000Before everybody was thinking about leaving, and now that everybody has, I'm like, this is like when everyone's reading Harry Potter, and I'm like, no.
03:06:48.000Well, it sounds like that bill was the first alarm, right?
03:08:05.000I mean, if it's not making money, that spot would be very hard if you owned it not to just be like, all right, it's going to be a high rise.
03:08:12.000Listen, this whole world right now, I'm saying listen like I know, but the whole world in a year from now is going to be unrecognizable.
03:08:44.000And they're getting to dictate how professional businesses operate and run and what they need to stay open and what they need to stay alive.
03:08:52.000And their solution to everything is we'll send them money.
03:08:55.000But in the funds, did you see Pelosi's fund?
03:15:58.000I have friends who are nurses and on the front lines, and it's a very, you know, because we're not exposed to it, it's a very different experience.
03:16:05.000It's almost like you live in two different worlds.
03:16:19.000And then there's people that are also in hospitals where they're being furloughed because they can't work because there's no one there and the hospitals are going bankrupt.