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00:03:20.000Dude, there's a fucking article I was reading today about a bionic eye that will be available in five years that will be superior to a biological eye.
00:05:22.000Not the movie itself, but there's one scene where the spaceship is in the foreground and in the background is supposed to be like, you know, some space type shit.
00:05:37.000Yeah, and because the way they were focusing, you barely could see it, so it was fine in the film when he was watching it in low def on his monitors.
00:07:56.000The problem is he said outlandish shit over the course of X amount of years.
00:08:02.000And if you dissect it, it's like he's just spouting it out all day long.
00:08:06.000The way they do it is they take you out of context and then they change what you are, right?
00:08:11.000Because if you're a guy like Trump who does say ridiculous shit sometimes, particularly before he was ever president, but a lot of people do.
00:08:18.000It's called talking shit, and it's what a lot of people do, right?
00:08:22.000But you can't do that if you ever plan on being president.
00:08:24.000But if you just take all of those talking shit moments and condense them together and go, This is him!
00:08:29.000You're like, oh my god, this is a monster.
00:11:24.000So it's like it forces you into writing jokes.
00:11:26.000It takes away the one thing that fucks most comedians is that they don't write.
00:11:31.000So when you're forced into a battle, like you're going to have to do battle next Tuesday with this girl, and this girl's vicious, like you've got to come up with some mean shit to say about her and it better be really funny.
00:11:40.000And she's writing some mean shit about you.
00:11:42.000Yeah, you already know that she's going to have some shit for you.
00:13:13.000I mean, that was so baffling to me when I first came to the Comedy Store about 10 years ago, because I remember hearing about the Mencia beef and everything, and then I'm like, what happened?
00:13:24.000And when I heard about what happened, I was like...
00:14:39.000But there was only like a few, and they wouldn't come that often.
00:14:42.000So it was like, when Martin would come, the main room would be flooded with people just Pauling out into the hallways like people forgot how big Martin Lawrence was in those days This is the leather jumpsuit days sure the you so crazy days,
00:14:59.000Yeah, he was king of the world for sure He was on top of the world like people forgot they forgot how hard he murdered too.
00:15:04.000He was so good The hardest decision I ever had to make was one day Martin Lawrence and Chris Rock showed up at the same exact time and they both wanted to go up and I had to decide Who is gonna go on?
00:15:16.000That was a tough one How long ago was this?
00:15:41.000When I used to follow Martin Lawrence, man, I developed...
00:15:46.000Like this ability to accept the fact that I was gonna eat shit and Not be so scared because I had gotten beaten down a bunch of times by those crowds and that was the brilliance of Mitzi She knew that you know, it was a tough spot She'd just put me on after Martin Lawrence every time,
00:16:11.000You ever seen that video online where there's these Nigerian guys, or these African guys, rather, and it's at a funeral, and when the music starts playing, they go to these guys, and then there's a guy getting knocked out, and then when the guy gets knocked out, you go back to the guys dancing with the coffin.
00:19:14.000It's just about creating impressions and memes and getting these short attention span motherfuckers to hold on to a narrative as hard as possible.
00:32:52.000It's leading, only looking at one perspective, and that's the perspective that enhances fear.
00:32:57.000This is, wear a mask, wear your gloves, use hand sanitizer, don't touch anything, stay apart from each other.
00:33:04.000And then the other perspective is get out in the sun, get your vitamin D, drink lots of water, stop drinking soda, check your vitamin levels if you can, but give yourself X amount of vitamin C a day, X amount of D, take zinc.
00:33:17.000Zinc has been shown to have a very positive effect on people with high zinc levels or sufficient zinc levels that have this virus also have a much better outcome.
00:33:34.000I mean, people fucking, they should be, yeah, they should be pumping this into our fucking bloodstream via the news, but it's all bullshit.
00:33:42.000When Rhonda Patrick was talking about the vitamin D levels in people that are in ICU, it's like, if you were a scientist, you'd be like, hold on, we found it.
00:35:15.000And as long as you're clear on all that stuff...
00:35:18.000We should be doing that and call it a day.
00:35:20.000They wear a mask, they stay away from you, I mean, mostly, except when they're taking your meal or dropping off your meal.
00:35:26.000Because we've already gone over the game plan ad nauseum.
00:35:29.000We know exactly how we're going to do it, you know, how to have access to the bathrooms, social distancing in the room, where the comics can enter the stage so they're not fucking in the thick of it.
00:36:33.000And then there's you and Joey Diaz and, you know, everybody else and Whitney Cummings and all the A-plus level comics are there every single night when they're in town.
00:36:46.000And then that leaves you, you know, and then from 11 to 12, that's all the Andrew Santino's and the Eric Griffin's and the Fahim Anwar's and all these other beasts that aren't filling fucking arenas, but they're the next ones up, you know?
00:37:02.000So if you're some new guy or gal who's coming up the line...
00:37:05.000Yeah, that leaves like five spots a night at the end of the lineup.
00:37:08.000And you've got 250 comics calling in every week just that fit into that paradigm.
00:37:14.000So it's like, sorry, you know, it's nothing personal.
00:37:20.000No club ever been like it either, where there's no shortage of people in the audience.
00:37:25.000I mean, those years from when I came back to when the pandemic hit were the craziest years I've ever seen in stand-up comedy at that place.
00:37:34.000By far, like a whole new dimension, like a whole world had shifted.
00:37:40.000It's been so fucking cool to watch, you know, and to see that shift.
00:37:46.000There's some comics that are coming up right now.
00:37:48.000Some of the ones that I passed in the last year or two, I'm so excited about.
00:37:52.000Like this guy, Brian Simpson, you've got to...
00:37:56.000Nick, when we reopen again, I'm telling you, this guy's a beast.
00:38:17.00020 people or something in the crowd and more people were in the crowd by the end of her set than were there in the beginning because people were coming in because she was slaying.
00:40:17.000When I was gone and then I came back, it made me realize, like, oh, this is a very valuable thing for your comedy.
00:40:25.000Like, you can't just go to, like, random comedy clubs and just jump in and do sets.
00:40:30.000Like, having a home base and having a home base filled with, like, Jezelnik and all these fucking assassins, it's like you'd just be around murderers just all day long slaying.
00:40:40.000And it just makes everybody's level higher.
00:40:43.000I felt like the level of comedy that I was experiencing there was higher than I'd ever seen it before.
00:40:49.000Like, you know, there was always the murderers like Martin Lawrence and Damon Wayans, but there was a lot of bullshit in there.
00:40:55.000A lot of fuckin' bodaks and a lot of dudes who were doing literally the same act, no bullshit, for 25 years.
00:41:02.000I know I had to get rid of a lot of them.
00:41:05.000Like, you would see a guy, and then you'd not see him for 10, 15 years, and you'd see the same act in the same order verbatim with old, like, Ronald Reagan as president references and shit, and like, whoa!
00:41:16.000So that was when I came here in 94. There was a lot of that going on.
00:41:31.000I mean, I'm so fortunate to have the people calling in every week that they could call in, because from 9 o'clock to literally 1215, it's just wall-to-wall killers.
00:41:42.000Yeah, we need to get the president involved in this.
00:41:45.000Tell him that he'll get the support of all the comedians if he just has a federal mandate to open up all comedy clubs.
00:44:44.000But what made me, it made me think in that state of mind, like I'm so thankful that I have such an amazing group of friends, so thankful that I have an amazing family, so thankful that I have friends that I love, that we can fuck with each other and talk shit to each other.
00:47:46.000And you look at his business, though, like, you've got, I believe, the way they have, you would be able to know this, the app, their app, you get everything through the app, right?
00:47:57.000Yeah, the WWE Network, I think is what's Right, so when you sign up, you pay a monthly fee, and you get all the events.
00:48:06.000The UFC, like, if you get ESPN +, you gotta pay for ESPN +, but when, like, Conor McGregor fights or Jon Jones fights, you gotta pay for that.
00:48:14.000Yeah, I found out the hardware about, what was that, like, three weeks ago.
00:48:28.000And a lot of people, like WWE used to have that model.
00:48:32.000They used to have, you'd pay for pay-per-views.
00:48:34.000They have their regular shows and they have the big time pay-per-views.
00:48:37.000Yeah, I remember that with like SummerSlam and even the WWF days.
00:48:42.000Yeah, they used to advertise those all the time on cable.
00:48:45.000If you could imagine, though, if like Tuesday night, Rochester knew you or Conor McGregor would just fight a championship fight and then you see him again on Saturday.
00:49:39.000That business though, what I was going to say is I think because of the app, the WWE, because of the app, the way they have it set up, they don't have the live gate anymore.
00:49:49.000So all that money from those, they do these giant arenas, they're selling out like crazy all over the country, 200 plus a year.
00:53:34.000We're just hearing, inject yourself with fucking Clorox.
00:53:36.000And if you talk to people like, well, you don't want to shame people for, you know, for having a poor diet or for being overweight, like...
00:54:53.000No, I think it was tempered because of the real danger.
00:54:56.000I think the real threat and the real fear tempered it.
00:54:58.000And now that that's gone away, the real fear is going to give way to a new level of anger because of this level of despair people are going to be experiencing financially over the next few months.
00:55:09.000So there's going to be a heightened...
00:55:11.000It's almost going to have a slingshot effect.
00:55:14.000People got less cunty and they're gonna get more cunty and more self-righteous.
00:55:20.000More self-righteous, more people chastising, criticizing people.
00:55:25.000And on Twitter you really see it because people are literally forced to be at home.
00:55:29.000So if you're forced to be at home and you don't have the discipline to stay off Twitter and you happen to comment something and someone comments on your comment and then you start talking shit to each other, that's your day.
00:55:38.000Not only is that your day, but you're going to be crazy.
00:55:41.000You're going to be thinking about it in the middle of the night.
00:56:34.000It's like when you post it, it's important.
00:56:36.000But when you're dealing with whatever the fuck it is, 100 million people that are on Twitter or more, probably more, that are posting on a regular basis, and then most of what they want to say is angry.
00:56:49.000Most of what they want to say is negative.
00:57:49.000Or there's people that want to dox people because they don't like this politician that they support, or they want you to not have to wear a mask.
00:57:59.000There's so many people that are so fucking angry and weird online, and then you add this pandemic to it, and you just got this boiling pot of shitty thinking.
00:58:28.000And that's what I loved about the comedy stores.
00:58:29.000People that, you know, didn't disagree, but they fucking, you know, they're still the camaraderie, and they're, at the end of the day, they're in the same boat.
00:59:08.000Which makes me think that can't be real.
00:59:10.000It makes me think that it's probably a lot of it is people shaping their opinions so that they're more accepted and loved by the community that they've chosen to try to excel in.
01:01:41.000But I realized in the middle of the conversation, I'm like, oh, people do shit like that because they think they're supposed to like a movie.
01:02:09.000I wanted to find out why he could ever possibly think that that was a good idea for that lady to date that fucking asshole, that mean guy who just needed a pill.
01:02:50.000He was saying it because he thought it was the thing that he should say.
01:02:53.000And in talking to this guy, I found this, like, it was like one of those fake houses where they film a TV show where there's nothing behind it.
01:04:41.000And there were a lot of comics that were like that at the Comedy Store that were doing it just to get women and they didn't have any real love for the art form.
01:05:19.000There's a way to be healthy and still approach it.
01:05:21.000And the way to be healthy and approach it is to approach it as an art form.
01:05:24.000Don't approach it as a method for getting you attention.
01:05:26.000And the problem is it's like set up to chase the attention.
01:05:29.000It's set up to chase the sitcom role or the record that you put out or whatever the big thing is, the movie that you get into, the big thing that's supposed to elevate you and define you.
01:05:42.000And instead of that, I think if you can, as you're evolving as an artist, reach a point where you're just trying to do your best work.
01:05:52.000And that must feel so fucking good to reach that point.
01:08:22.000And it really, look, for me as a person who's met people like John Carmack, who is the lead programmer of id games, who created Doom and Quake.
01:10:03.000When he gets people to do things and tells them, you're on a bus, and the bus is about to go off the cliff and into the ocean, and you don't know how to swim, people would be screaming.
01:10:13.000The midnight ones where it was the dirty one, they would always do the dirty show.
01:10:17.000One time I saw, it was a couple, and this guy, he convinced this girl she was in a porno.
01:10:21.000And they gave her a banana, and she started deep-throating the banana, and the whole crowd was going insane.
01:10:27.000And then they got in, like, he, like, Sadly, he beat her up in the parking lot.
01:11:48.000Right, if we were hanging out in the back bar, the comedy store, and you and me just hanging out in the back there, we would talk just like this.
01:11:53.000Thank God for Eric creating that back bar.
01:23:18.000He actually, with Janet Leigh, he made sure that it was ice cold water so that the scream, like he would turn it to make sure that the water was ice cold right when she was getting stabbed.
01:23:30.000So those screams are like actual fucking primal screams.
01:24:46.000When I saw The Exorcist in the theater when they re-released it after the 25th anniversary, me and my friends were hilariously laughing at some of the scenes because people had built it up so long our whole lives.
01:27:33.000Because Kubrick was a fucking master at Creating suspense and and using the sets and the color contrast like just the the the color patterns are Unsettling and the fact that he used those twins weren't exactly they weren't twins There were just little differences that makes it unsettling.
01:27:52.000There's so many different ways Do you know he used to do complex mathematics for fun?
01:28:54.000Sorry, I was in the middle of reading the 237 stuff.
01:28:56.000Yeah, I heard it was also possibly about Native Americans, how the hotel was built on an ancient Indian burial ground, and even Shelley Duvall sort of looked Native American.
01:29:06.000You could hear Native American music playing in the opening credits.
01:29:10.000I wouldn't be surprised if there was many layers to it.
01:29:45.000You know, and he's the guy that the conspiracy theorists, when they get the most crazy, when they really want to dive into who did it, they think it was all Kubrick.
01:29:55.000Kubrick literally filmed the fake moon landing, uploaded it to the American TV satellites.
01:30:51.000Alex Jones was talking about that way before anybody was.
01:30:54.000He called it way before, and he said, there's this service, and they take these elites, and they bring them to this place, and they have sex with underage girls.
01:32:08.000Three books, and he's working on his fourth one now, and it's all about, it's like, they're thrillers, but like, there's espionage and political shit going on in there, and the main protagonist- Clancy?
01:32:21.000I don't know, I've never read Clancy, but the main guy is a Navy SEAL, and there's all this crazy shit that happens in all these stories, but in a lot of them, you go, wow, like, I used to think that something like this is preposterous, that people are just making up this idea that people would conspire to do evil,
01:32:43.000creepy shit all over the world and do it to make money and sacrifice people's lives.
01:32:47.000But as I've gotten older, I'm like, oh, that's probably way closer to what's really going on.
01:36:06.000Let him do all of his sets for like a month and piece it together.
01:36:09.000We let him go for an hour, and we got a lot of good material with Holtzman.
01:36:15.000There's a thing where it's the end of the night, you did your show, and then you're leaving the back bar, and you gotta go take a leak, and you go take a leak, and then you hear, What the fuck did I just say to you?
01:36:27.000And you're like, oh my god, Holtzman's in...
01:36:30.000You walk in there, there's like eight other people.
01:37:14.000Hold on your crystals because we're gonna talk sister.
01:37:17.000I think there's some real power in objects and I think when you're around objects and you have fun, like if you are in that room, that comedy store, that room is like an encasing.
01:42:30.000It's certainly more essential than some of the other fucking businesses.
01:42:34.000Think about how much different is the contact, the close proximity to contact that you get if you were in a comedy show versus if you were in line at a store and you're handing a cashier your money and they're giving you money back and you're looking at it,
01:45:55.000And you've got to give them the education to help them get over that cold, to help them keep that virus from getting to them with all the precautions that everybody's using every day anyway.
01:46:03.000Yeah, the structure to make sure that they're as safe as possible.
01:48:05.000They have some talk of potentially passing laws for recovery from lost money, legalizing it.
01:48:13.000What I've found out of doing my Texas studies, because I have been doing research, is Austin in particular is a very interesting combination of liberal folks and conservative folks.
01:48:27.000Like red Texas, and then blue Austin, and then a lot of blue stuff.
01:48:33.000That's going on, and then the governor doesn't want them to do certain things, and the governor doesn't want them shutting down construction sites, but the city of Austin is more blue.
01:51:25.000Yeah, it's called CEDU. It's C-E-D-U. And they called it that because you could see yourself how you want to be, and then you'd do something about it.
01:51:37.000Damn, that sounds like something that Tony Robbins would say.
01:51:42.000I think it was created originally from something called Synanon, which I think is more well-known.
01:51:49.000That sounds like some cheesy, not Tony Robbins, but like a low-level, online, motivational guy?
01:53:10.000My mom didn't know what to do with me, but after the third time I got sent up to the psych ward, they said, if you do this one more time, anything else, we're going to have to send you away somewhere more serious, probably.
01:53:24.000And so, I did it again, and then we took a tour up to, they said we were just going to go up to take a tour of this school that I could be sent away to.
01:54:41.000So I had only been at the school two hours.
01:54:44.000I'd just been strip searched and I'd been put into one of these three-hour wraps and the girl next to me was like rocking back and forth on the chair, sort of like sobbing quietly.
01:54:56.000And then the kid next to me got up, walked across the room and switched seats with someone because you weren't allowed to talk to someone next to you.
01:55:05.000And that kid started screaming at the kid right next to me over here.
01:55:08.000And then this one just started screaming at the floor and started screaming at the floor like, I hate you mom, I hate you dad.
01:55:18.000And then someone started putting all this Kleenex, all these tissues, and I'm like, why are they putting all these fucking tissues here?
01:55:25.000And then you just see all this snot and spit and mucus empty out of this girl's body.
01:55:32.000Because she's just screaming and like blood vessels are popping and she's crying and screaming and it was the most disgusting thing you've ever seen.
01:55:41.000And I was like, oh my god, I'm going to be here for two and a half years and this is going to happen three times a week.
01:55:55.000They were told by the counselors at the psych ward that it was like a place for troubled kids when you didn't know what else to do with them.
01:56:47.000But it was a really weird mix of students.
01:56:50.000It was like, I think Paris Hilton went there at one point, and then there was like, just a lot of kids there on court orders, and there was, you know, it was just a real mix, weird mix of people.
01:57:01.000But they had these 24-hour, what they called profites, and they were all named after a different chapter of the book called The Prophet by Khalil Gibran.
01:57:32.000They have these things called profites.
01:57:35.000So you go through the program with a peer group.
01:57:38.000So everybody that was enrolled at the same time as you in the same like two months, you go through these almost like these rites of passages called profites and there were these 24-hour long workshops.
01:58:09.000And what was odd is that all the staff members were, there were a lot of, there were like two or three staff members who were the counselors at the school.
02:00:27.000It's like levels, there's levels of where people can, you know, they can control people in the strangest ways and get people, like the Hale-Bopp comet people.
02:00:45.000Yeah, the main guy cut his balls off and he encouraged others to cut their balls off as well to free themselves from the confines of sexual lust.
02:02:30.000And one of the things she said that was kind of shocking.
02:02:32.000She was like, I'm more, because she left that religion, and she's like, but I'm very susceptible to bullshit.
02:02:40.000Like, I'm very susceptible to gurus and cults.
02:02:43.000It's like, there's a part, when you develop your whole life, 35, 45 years of thinking a certain way, and then all of a sudden, it's shut off.
02:02:52.000And you're like, okay, all that stuff that you believe, that was all bullshit.
02:04:26.000It's an intense commitment to your fake god.
02:04:30.000I went along with it because I didn't want to extend my sentence.
02:04:33.000If you got in trouble and you didn't play along and you didn't follow the rules, then you add six months to your sentence and you drop a peer group.
02:04:40.000But you didn't know going in that it was a cult.
02:08:36.000But yeah, my buddy, our buddy, Jeff Garland, put me in touch with this fantastic writer who writes a lot of episodes of Better Call Saul, and we're almost done with our pilot.
02:08:46.000We're gonna pitch it in about a month.
02:08:52.000That's one that's going to be fascinating to see how they play that narrative out.
02:08:57.000Whether they will show that kind of shit, like a 13-year-old girl in a guy's lap, that seems like you can't even do that.
02:14:32.000But I found out about seven or eight years after the club was closed, they found out that there was actually a serial killer that was working at the school.
02:15:52.000I think there was a lot of them where there was a lot of people that were experimenting with different lifestyles, and they're experimenting with drugs, and then there was a lot of people.
02:16:00.000Whenever you do drugs around people, there's always people that have answers.
02:16:47.000Yeah, man, there was a whole time where people were, you know, regularly getting together groups of people and getting them to do things and telling them things and telling them, you know, got to drink the Kool-Aid and telling them, you got to come with me, we got to...
02:17:03.000Kill that pregnant lady and write pig on the wall.
02:18:07.000They wanted him to get these hippies to do fucked up things because it would disgrace the anti-war movement and it would get people to be against hippies.
02:18:39.000Tom's book comes out, and they close it.
02:18:43.000They closed down this free clinic a couple of months after his book comes out, showing that that free clinic was being used in the 1960s by the CIA to dose up hippies and follow them around and do studies on them, and then dose up Johns in whorehouses.
02:18:58.000They set up fake whorehouses with two-way mirrors and let these guys take acid.
02:19:03.000They thought they were getting a drink and they were going to have sex with a prostitute, and they would pour acid into their mouth and follow them and fucking run studies on them.
02:19:42.000Here's the thing I was going to talk about.
02:19:43.000I watched over this past weekend the entire Netflix special on the Unabomber.
02:19:49.000There's a four-part special on the Unabomber.
02:19:51.000And it mentions a lot of fucked up things about the Unabomber.
02:19:55.000I don't want to spoiler alert anybody, but one thing it kind of leaves out was that he was a part, and I'm pretty sure this has been documented, of the CIA, LSD, Harvard drug studies.
02:20:08.000He was a part of some sort of psychological study in Harvard for three years.
02:20:12.000By the way, he graduated from school early, so he was at Harvard when he was 17. A 17-year-old kid, they're putting him through this psychological study where they humiliate you.
02:20:23.000And break down your ideas and call you a fool, and there's recordings of it, of him talking to an adult, 17 year old kid talking to an adult who's just openly mocking him and his ideas and shitting on him, and they think they gave these kids- They created the fucking Unabomber.
02:20:36.000They think they gave these kids acid too.
02:22:18.000This is a part of our history 50 years ago.
02:22:21.000The only studies I've seen is like the famous videos like when they give it to like a housewife.
02:22:25.000There's all this stuff called MKUltra and MKUltra was a real project where they were really experimenting on people to find out what would happen to them.
02:22:52.000And they taught him how to manipulate others with acid.
02:22:55.000How to use acid to break down societal norms and break down all the structure they had in terms of what was okay and not okay in relationships and their relationship to society, how society was fucking them over.
02:23:07.000He would force them to have orgies and go, you're going to have sex with her and he's going to have sex with him and put everybody together.
02:23:14.000Straight, all acid, all fucked up and literally he would pretend to take acid and then like guide them and guide their thoughts and program them and he did it every night and everybody was like, well, where'd he get the acid?
02:23:55.000He spent almost his entire life in prison.
02:23:57.000And most likely, they're pretty sure they were involved in acid studies during that time, at least towards the end before they released him.
02:24:09.000And they release him, and he's just getting away with things.
02:24:12.000Like when he does things, like they think he murdered a guy, they think he murdered a guy at the ranch, the guy disappeared, and he confessed to it later.
02:25:06.000This Dr. Jolly, this famous LSD doctor from that clinic, went to visit Lee Harvey Oswald, excuse me, went to visit Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald.
02:25:16.000When he leaves, Jack Ruby's crawling off the ceiling, screaming and yelling.
02:26:13.000Digging through here, it doesn't specifically say that those tests had LSD in them, but they were psychological tests that happened at Harvard to undergraduate students in the late 60s, or maybe even...
02:26:25.000Yeah, they brushed over it in the documentary, the Netflix thing, about how they would use drugs on patients.
02:26:33.000But they were talking about a variety of methods, and they sort of glossed over the fact, and drugs.
02:27:03.000I can't wait to see this fucking baby.
02:27:05.000But I think, like, when I'm watching the Unabomber thing, and I'm thinking, how many people like that aren't murderous, but lost their fucking mind?
02:27:27.000I guess it's different in that they're not taking you to a place, but it's not in terms of one person with an extraordinary amount of power is using and abusing that power in a way that no one would ever consent to, and they don't understand it.
02:27:40.000They can't understand it, because in your case, when you're 14, you're a fucking little kid.
02:27:46.000In this case, when you're on acid, they're doctoring your neurochemistry.
02:27:51.000They're changing the way your fucking brain interfaces with reality and then programming you, talking to you.
02:27:57.000Anybody who doesn't think that that is insane, and when you find out that that actually went on, like, whoa, has anybody been held accountable for that?
02:28:08.000People still deny it to this day, apparently.
02:28:11.000But there's been some Freedom of Information Act documents and some other documents they found that were in CIA storage that confirmed the existence of this program and some of the things that they were trying to do.
02:28:57.000And meanwhile, you're coming in right on the heels of the regime that was literally operating whorehouses with two-way mirrors, dosing plumbers up with acid.
02:29:36.000First of all, also, if you give people that are in the position of any government agency or a police officer that's seen a lot of violence, they've seen a lot of crazy shit, they've seen the worst side of people, and then you give them this super secret power where no one can know what they're doing,
02:29:55.000and they can literally ghost people, they can make people vanish.
02:29:58.000You can just shoot somebody in the head and throw them in the ocean.
02:30:22.000Seems like that's what those cults are, man.
02:30:24.000It's like there's a combination of stupid, uninformed narcissism and that weird primal nature to tell people what to do.
02:30:32.000And you bang it all together with some delusional person with some good vocabulary and some wild stories of what's waiting for them after the Hale-Bopp comet passes overhead and you cut your balls off.
02:30:48.000How did it affect, once you got out and you realized you were out and you talked to all the other people that were out too and you all realized that you were out, how did it affect, did you have to like remap those years in your head?
02:31:00.000Did you have to kind of think about What life is really like?
02:31:04.000It was interesting, because I got out when I was 16, so I had to go out.
02:31:08.000As soon as I got out, I had two more years of high school.
02:31:11.000So I got thrown down the street at Taft.
02:31:13.000I went to Taft High School in Woodland Hills.
02:31:16.000And then, yeah, did a couple more years there.
02:31:19.000But it was tough to get re-acclimated.
02:32:21.0001-800-BE-A-BITCH. But when they call those numbers, they should have your phone number, and then when you go to vote, they should go, oh, look.
02:33:50.000I totally, not only do I not regret it, there's many, many, many days, more days than not, that I wish I could go back and do it all over again.
02:34:10.000I had all that other bullshit to worry about, but I didn't have to worry about a roof over my head, job, all the other bullshit that you have to worry about as an adult.
02:34:24.000About people, even in the Holocaust, because you know what they, and you know what the reason, I think it's a very small percentage of people that would have wanted to go back to that.
02:34:34.000But they said it's because they felt alive.
02:34:37.000A lot of people said that about war in general.
02:34:40.000During war, they feel like the stakes are so high and everything's turned up to 11. You know, I think that's what we're talking about when we're talking about the pandemic, the early days of the pandemic.
02:34:51.000I felt like this is going to be good for people.
02:34:53.000It's going to be a little bit of a lesson, but I'm much more cynical now.
02:35:01.000I mean, it's going to harden people's differences instead of force people to abandon a lot of the foolish stuff and concentrate on what's important, keeping our loved ones and our family alive, keeping each other alive and doing the right thing and protecting ourselves from this invasion of demons,
02:35:18.000invisible demons that can kill your grandpa.
02:35:39.000And until things bounce back to a steady place, I don't think that's going to resolve itself.
02:35:44.000Well, it's a very divisive issue, you know.
02:35:47.000But I do hope that some of us, the wise amongst us, some of us that like to think about things are going to look at this and go, Maybe my priorities were out of whack.
02:36:01.000Maybe I should have just tried to enjoy life and had more adventures and just appreciated people and just more dinners with wine, you know, laughing and hugging each other and just more having fun because there's so much of...
02:36:46.000And I hope that's sooner rather than later.
02:36:48.000I also hope that people that have been thinking about doing something, but they've been held back by this idea that you're going to play it safe, you realize there's no safe.