In this episode, Reggie Watts joins us to talk about the end of the world, aliens, and monkeys stealing babies. Also, Reggie talks about the pandemic that's going on in the world and how we're going to end it all, and how to deal with it. We also talk about some crazy UFO sightings in Idaho, and Reggie gives us the inside scoop on some of the craziest things he's seen in the past week, including a monkey that stole a baby from an alleyway and is now riding a motorcycle to take it away from a kid who's being dragged away by a man who's trying to save the kid from the man who is holding on to the kid and is trying to get him away from the kid, but the kid is too strong for the man and the man is too dumb to realize that the kid needs to be taken away from him, and the guy doesn't realize that. Reggie also talks about how dumb people are and how dumb monkeys are and why they do dumb things like that and why it's a good thing they don't have a leash to keep them from being taken away, because they're not going to get away from this kid, because it's going to be a problem, and it's not going away any time soon. Reggie Watts is an amazing human being. No finer person to share this spectacular, chaotic time than Reggie Watts. No better person to be here at the end-of-the-world than him. Thank you for being here! - Reggie Watts, I hope you enjoy this episode. I love you, I really appreciate you, love ya, bye. -Eugene, Eugene and Elyssa, Elexa, and Elesa, I'm sorry for the trouble you're in this one. -Eddie, I love y'all. -P.S. - Thank you so much, E.E. and I'm looking forward to seeing you in the next episode! -Everest, EJ and EJ, E-YEAH! -SORRY EJ & EJ. -R.B. - E. & E- EJ and E.J. & AYO-EJ -E. -D. -LJ, I'll see you next week! -PODCAST -EVERYBODY - ELEANDS -EUGE, ERLA, ELEMENT
00:05:52.000Something happened that caused us to divert.
00:05:53.000What's going to happen if they start talking to us?
00:05:56.000I don't know, but you know something we're gonna figure out some kind of a computer that's able to like read every tiny micro movement and interpret it right into words, right?
00:06:04.000You know, and they'll be like mood and then just words.
00:06:07.000Yeah, like, oh, I think it's saying this and it's just gonna get better and better and better What was that gorilla that they taught sign language was her name?
00:07:18.000And I think they eventually had to bring it to some sort of a rescue center because it developed a very unhealthy sexual relationship with this lady.
00:09:06.000And so that's part of the reason why there was all the speculation that maybe it was like some sort of a hybrid.
00:09:10.000It makes sense that there would be, like, definitely a, um, there's gotta be outliers, you know, because so much genetic information is shared between, like, all of the animals on the planet, including us, and we have bits and pieces of all of it.
00:09:49.000But I mean, you got to think, if human beings, they think in this form that we're at, we've only been around in this form for somewhere in the neighborhood of 250,000 to 450,000 years or something like that.
00:11:02.000They think that it's really possible that some sort of fungus could exist on an asteroid.
00:11:10.000We have chunks of the moon in Antarctica and other parts of the world where some big asteroid hits or a meteor hits the moon, a big chunk flies off, it gets sucked into our gravity and slams into Earth.
00:11:22.000And if that can happen, you can get some fungus on that, some sort of spores.
00:14:23.000We only like what we are what we like what we look like, you know, I mean Yeah, I mean that's the kind of goes like to like what's happening like now even like with all these riots and protests and all this stuff.
00:14:34.000It's like You know, I was talking to a friend about it My drummer Guillermo grew up similarly like mostly white culture had parent.
00:14:46.000So I have my French mom And my my african-american dad who was from Cleveland, Ohio and And so the mixture of the two, plus the fact that they were married in 1967, 68, and in the United States it still wasn't legal to marry interracially.
00:15:25.000But it's just like all that stuff when I think about how much went on and to get me to a point at which I can just be chill and be like, oh, hey, what's up?
00:16:18.000Because most of the time, Montanans, even if they're kind of, I'm uncomfortable with a black person, even if that was the case, and I come up and I'm having a conversation with them, and after a while, they're like, oh, that's cool.
00:19:27.000No, I mean, yeah, I guess it was like, I was in Montana when I remember, I kind of vaguely remember being in the courthouse and being made a citizen of the United States.
00:19:50.000Yeah, very, very strange when I think about it.
00:19:52.000It's like all the ingredients are insane.
00:19:56.000Like, I'm so stoked I got to grow up where I got to grow up, and I had the experiences that I got to experience, and I love Montana, and I love my friends from Montana, and I like being a guy that people never expect is from Montana, and it's like...
00:20:08.000Well, you're an unusual guy in that you're very left-wing, like me, but you're also very Second Amendment, pro-Second Amendment, like me.
00:20:20.000You know, I find, like, you and I have very big parallels on that.
00:20:25.000You know all for everyone's rights like for everything I mean just I want people to be free you do whatever yep, but when shit like this goes down and people are just randomly lighting targets on fire and you know and Smashing windows and stealing things and knocking cars over and pulling people out of trucks now you understand that the veneer of civilization is very thin and the the chaos of being is very deep and And
00:20:56.000I don't ever want to have to use a gun.
00:21:02.000If I make it to the grave and never have encountered anyone that I needed to shoot to protect my or my loved one's lives, I'd be a happy person.
00:21:11.000But I'd be much happier if I get to make that choice.
00:21:16.000And I have the opportunity or the ability to protect myself or to protect someone I care about.
00:21:22.000Well, I mean, it's like it depends on the climate that you're, you know, we live in a climate that is like for very, so many reasons have we've gotten to this point at which.
00:21:32.000Essentially, I could just say the blanket blame goes to capitalism in general.
00:21:37.000I mean, I'm sure you talk about this on the show a lot.
00:21:40.000And capitalism in its most fundamental state is just essentially trade.
00:21:46.000You set up a fruit stand and someone's got bread and you trade and then there's kind of like an understood value for things.
00:21:53.000On a basic level, it's just kind of what we do as human beings.
00:21:55.000We barter, we trade, things like that.
00:21:57.000But then you flash forward and you overlay complexity over complexity over complexity that is then guided by people who are like, oh, I can game the system a little bit more.
00:22:06.000Oh, I can game the system a little bit more.
00:22:08.000And now you get all these hoarders and hoarders and people and choke points of resources, right?
00:22:14.000And so then they're kind of dictating the value, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:22:19.000It's like, yeah, I enjoy the reason why...
00:22:23.000I enjoy my ability to have a firearm is because I respect their power.
00:22:28.000I'm an engineered-minded person, so I like the engineering and the craftsmanship behind it, and I like the responsibility and the safety factor of it, that people take it seriously.
00:22:39.000When I grew up, people were really adamant about the safety of guns.
00:22:43.000Whenever I touched a gun, looked at a gun, before you pick it up, they'd be like, Never put your finger on the trigger.
00:22:49.000Never pointed it at anybody unless you plan on firing it.
00:22:52.000All the things that we all hear about gun owners are supposed to be taught.
00:22:57.000And so growing up with guns, I didn't really fear them.
00:23:15.000Growing up in my friend's house, seeing a deer hung up, strung up, you know, on the rafters with a bunch of cardboard on the ground, you know, getting ready to be processed.
00:24:27.000Whilst it was an interesting experiment, I will say, and when I talked to all my law enforcement friends in Montana, like, you know, who was the guy who walked in?
00:24:37.000He walked in his suit and had a full-on three-piece suit and then had his carry, concealed carry, on him and then walked in with a huge bag of, like, crazy guns.
00:24:46.000But he is a prosecutor and has to have security when he goes to cases and things like that because when they get convicted, sometimes people sick their friends on him and stuff like that.
00:24:58.000Anyways, he's never had any altercations, but an interesting guy, really like very heavily armed, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:25:05.000I was like, what would happen if in order to get a firearm, You had to, like, back when the NRA was the, when Truly was the NRA, when it was a bunch of, like, war vets who were like, this is how you use firearms safely.
00:25:18.000Like, way back in those days, if people had to go through training and had to be And when I talk in that way,
00:25:35.000they're like, I don't really have a problem with that.
00:25:37.000And I'm like, yeah, because you're only doing yourself a favor.
00:25:42.000You're promoting safety and you're educating people about firearms.
00:25:46.000And it's up to them if you want to have a firearm or you don't want to have a firearm.
00:25:49.000But if you do, you have to know how to safely operate a firearm.
00:26:33.000I never feel nervous or anything like that.
00:26:36.000But they're highly opinionated about people who open carry.
00:26:39.000People who open carry, they're always like, those people are almost always, concealed carry permit people always say that they don't like those people.
00:26:48.000Because you have a weapon that's visible, and it doesn't have a fancy biometric lock on it.
00:27:31.000It's not a thing where you want to do all the time, but if some shit goes down and you have a gun outside of your house, The law should be, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
00:27:42.000The law says you're allowed to open carry so you can have this gun outside your house.
00:27:47.000It doesn't mean you go to the movies with a fucking AK-47 strapped to your chest.
00:29:21.000And then the people who are really anti-gun, they're like, any hint that there might have to be a compromise made, then they're also equally like, no!
00:29:29.000And nothing's ever going to get done unless you get soldiers, cops...
00:29:35.000People who have to use guns for a profession, talking to people who are heritage gun owners, people who've been growing up for generations doing that, to people who live in urban situations where there's illegal gun sales and black market guns and there are problems with guns in their communities.
00:29:52.000All that stuff needs to be talked about, but the sides are so entrenched, it's very, very, very difficult.
00:30:00.000Well, I think something like we're experiencing right now, these riots and the looting, this opens people's eyes.
00:30:06.000This is like we're talking about our liberal friends that are very interested in getting a gun now.
00:30:23.000And my thing is, too, it's like technology is amazing.
00:30:27.000And guns are an interesting form of technology because, obviously, if, again, in a healthy situation, you're like, oh, did you see the new blah, blah, blah, blah, blah?
00:30:47.000Then there's the whole cultural thing that movies, you know, like bad boys and everything, just guns are just stuff that people just have and they're just shooting around.
00:30:55.000And the thing is, like, people never understand when you talk to a war vet about guns and gunfights and firefights, especially recent firefights, they're like, I never...
00:31:15.000Because I know things can change so quickly.
00:31:17.000A bullet, when you shoot a gun and it hits somebody and it ends their life, even if they were threatening you and so forth, that is one of the most traumatic things.
00:31:25.000Things that can happen in a human being's life.
00:31:28.000And they have to live with that all the time.
00:31:30.000I mean, soldiers, at least they have like, I'm on a side and I'm trained, you know, and there's psychological help and all that stuff.
00:31:44.000I will say that, you know, my friend who carries, I was like, what if the first three rounds that you have in your personal protection gun, like at home, or whatever your handgun, whatever it is, what if the first three rounds were rubber?
00:31:56.000And then there were live rounds after that.
00:31:59.000And he was like, oh, that's an interesting idea.
00:33:37.000And he doesn't know because that was another order placed by someone that wasn't him.
00:33:42.000And then suddenly it turns into pandemonium, and the next thing you know, another dude loses him.
00:33:45.000A guy that I knew that was a friend of a friend lost his eye in the WTO, right?
00:33:49.000It's because the guy, the police officer shot at him directly instead of bouncing it off the ground.
00:33:56.000It's just like, and it comes down to my gun guru dude that I was training with for a film, and that's kind of what launched me back into stuff.
00:34:06.000But he was saying, training, training, training.
00:34:09.000When it comes to police officers, it's community outreach, being able to actually establish a contact with your community so that they can at least have some form of trust or someone that they can talk to, that they can relate to.
00:34:20.000So they understand the police are there for their protection.
00:34:22.000Then the other thing is like training.
00:34:24.000A lot of these officers are just like, they're just sending them out and going, hey, good luck.
00:34:40.000I just think most people do not have the kind of temperament and character to deal with being in a position of having control over other people.
00:34:49.000Really ultimate fatal control over other people.
00:34:53.000I think most people, I mean, I think that takes a really powerful person and there are powerful people out there that handle it and handle it well and they're great cops.
00:35:01.000And then there's guys like that guy who put his fucking knee on that man's neck.
00:35:05.000For eight minutes and 38 seconds or whatever it was and finally the the family got their own autopsy and the the autopsy showed the man did die from Asphyxiation?
00:35:16.000Yeah, not not just asphyxiation, but also from the blood being cut off to the brain Which is really what it is.
00:35:22.000It's a blood choke because you're you're putting your shin on the side of the neck It's cutting off the carotid artery.
00:35:27.000It's like a choke like like a jujitsu choke You know, the idea that that's not what killed him is like, come on.
00:36:07.000And the guys that were just kind of sitting there, you know, the cops that were sitting there, it's like they, again, it's also a training issue.
00:36:13.000It's like, you know, and if you're a cop and you've noticed another fellow officer in the field doing some shit that Right.
00:36:47.000Well, some people that do step out, they get in trouble, right?
00:36:52.000Some people that do call out other officers for shitty behavior.
00:36:55.000But there was one woman really recently, I think it was either yesterday or today, there was a guy and he's arguing with these protesters, this male cop, and this woman gets on her knees in front of him.
00:38:57.000And, you know, unless your life is in danger, like, you know, but that these situations are not that these are cops that are like, something happens, there's like something clicks, and there's chaos all around.
00:39:07.000And the instinct is like, essentially the same mentality as someone who's taking advantage of it on the other side, who are like the people who come out after the initial rage wave of like, You know, which is a natural kind of biological instinct and it's a rebalancing but then they're the opportunists that sneak in behind the wave and those are the people that you see like targeting in a very organized way targeting these stores knowing exactly where they're gonna go and they're gonna take advantage of these moments of chaos yes and of course that gets mixed in and the cops see
00:39:37.000that and it's like well they kind of get on get in on that wavelength instead of the majority wavelength which is just like we're pissed we're emotional we're loud But we're allowed to do this.
00:39:48.000Have you seen these bricks that people have been finding at all these different sites where people are protesting?
00:40:56.000Okay, Jamie, I'm airdropping it to you right now.
00:40:58.000So this old shitty police car, and then these three, you have all these protesters, and then these three people move in a very organized fashion.
00:41:07.000And there's a guy who made a video about it.
00:41:09.000Have you seen the video, Jamie, where the guy breaks down the Antifa?
00:42:09.000I mean, and I'm not saying that as a joke, but some performance artists go to that length.
00:42:15.000But that's very, very organized and very ominous and very weird.
00:42:19.000I mean, I hope that those were reported and that the police picked them up.
00:42:22.000Well, one thing that is happening that's promising is these provocateurs...
00:42:27.000Are getting caught by actual Black Lives Matter protesters and grabbing them.
00:42:32.000And these assholes that are breaking windows and spray painting things, like, they're grabbing these people and saying, hey, you fuck, and they're turning these people in.
00:42:40.000Like, these people are smashing things.
00:44:03.000While these peaceful protests are going on, and he's smashing windows with a gas mask on, fully dressed in military-issued garb, and people are like, well, that's an Asian provocateur.
00:44:26.000I think some people just wish they want it to turn into something massive and they want it to be like a civil war.
00:44:34.000And there's also like the whole race war thing that, you know, you hear about white supremacists and stuff like that talk about, you know, and there's Then there's like the right way.
00:44:44.000The thing is like your mind can swim in all kinds of like conspiratorial ways.
00:44:49.000And it's probably it's a mixture of all kinds of things.
00:44:51.000You know, it's definitely like it's probably like, hey, I'm going to do this or like, hey, we should do that.
00:44:56.000Or someone kind of kids around and someone's listening, you know, in the police police department or whatever.
00:45:00.000And they're like, yeah, what if we were doing that or whatever?
00:45:02.000And they hear that they're like, I am going to do that.
00:45:59.000And you know that there's like a whole wave of those people because, I mean...
00:46:04.000I remember going to Brandenburg, Germany.
00:46:07.000A friend of mine out there has like a bunch of kind of Antifa slash anarchists but like kind of mellow version, German mellow version of that.
00:46:17.000Bought a bunch of land that was actually kind of like a weird shaky history but it was like Goebbels training camp for the Nazi youth at one point.
00:46:26.000And then it was before that it was like a Polish, I don't know, like Air Force place or something like that.
00:46:33.000Anyways, it has like this military, weird, shaky history, but they bought it and they've converted it.
00:46:39.000And now it's like very accepting of all people, like all kinds of people live on there.
00:46:43.000And then they are people who work on the, what's it called?
00:46:48.000The Fusion Festival, which is one of the biggest festivals in the world in Germany that's in Brandenburg.
00:47:27.000I remember once, because I was renting an Audi R8 V10 Plus, and I drove it onto the grounds when they were tearing down.
00:47:35.000And this young woman came up with a spray paint can and was like shaking the can and going like, what are you doing here with this kind of a vehicle?
00:47:43.000And it was this weird tense standoff, but I was with one of the people who's like one of the- Like she was going to spray paint your car?
00:48:00.000I mean, I'm okay with, like, when it comes to, like, people who are that passionate about, like, anti-corporate and stuff like that, I'm like, I get it.
00:50:30.000So if you want to affect change, you're either going to fit into the feedback loop, you're going to feed back into the feedback loop, or you're going to figure out a way to shift it so that you're able to spiral away from it.
00:50:41.000And I like people taking responsibility for getting rid of the fuckwits that are fucking it up for everybody, because guaranteed, whether it's the police or whether it's protesters, it's always a very, very small percentage Of those people are going to fuck it up because also the news loves sensationalism.
00:52:12.000And that's taking a part, that's happening while these peaceful protests are happening, all the while people just got done watching The Joker.
00:52:25.000Which is this fucking billion dollar movie where this guy kills everybody and burns it to the ground, shoots people on TV, and here's the problem.
00:52:35.000If this was a movie and a bunch of people were like, look, we're going to fucking end this corrupt system of capitalism, start smashing windows and burning things, part of you would be going, hmm, let's see how this turns out.
00:52:52.000But then in the movie, if you saw these pallets of bricks just mysteriously appearing at these areas where people are scheduled to protest and where these marches are supposed to go by, you're like, hey, what the fuck is going on here?
00:53:05.000Yeah, there's something else at play that's trying to push it over into that fantasy, to move from the fantasy into the reality.
00:53:14.000And my left-wing friends think it's right-wing people that are agent provocateurs that are trying to start this sort of chaotic scene so that the military can be called in, which is what essentially Trump apparently did today.
00:53:27.000Apparently, Jamie, why is everybody saying that it's martial law?
00:53:32.000Is that something that happened after his speech?
00:53:35.000Because during his speech, he was essentially saying that if they didn't call in the National Guard, he was going to bring in the military, which is...
00:53:52.000Which, in a weird way, goes against...
00:53:54.000I mean, you were talking about left-wing people saying it's the right-wing, and I'm sure that there are right-wing people that are saying, oh, it's the left-wing because they want it to make it.
00:54:50.000I guess it was like 2001 or 2002 that he put this video out, and he detailed how the World Trade Organization, when those people were protesting against the WTO, and this was in Seattle.
00:55:13.000Early 2000s, maybe 2000, 2001 or something.
00:55:15.000So these people were protesting against the WTO, and then these guys dressed exactly like that guy I was talking about earlier, all black, face covered, military-issue outfits, military-issue Vibram-soled shoes, all dressed uniformly, started smashing windows,
00:55:32.000smashing cars, pushing over post office boxes, lighting things on fire, and then they wound up shutting down all the protests, and even had They had a no-protest zone where people were showing up at work where they had a WTO stick or a WTO pin with a red line through it.
00:55:52.000They made them take that pin off of their jacket before they went through the line because you couldn't have anything that was any sort of a protest.
00:56:03.000Like this is all documented in this film.
00:56:05.000Then they eventually, all these guys who were the agent provocateurs, holed up in a building and then the police negotiated with them and then released them.
00:56:15.000So there was some sort of an order from higher up and they were all released.
00:56:21.000They used these guys, they used military people, some branch of the government, who knows what the fuck they were or who they were, they used them to turn a peaceful protest about a legitimate concern these people have about the doings of the World Trade Organization,
00:56:37.000and they turned it into a violent encounter that they could then justifiably bring in the police and shut everything down.
00:57:16.000And it's like, again, you know, when it comes to stuff like that, I'm like, I want to stay informed.
00:57:21.000I want to keep those ideas in mind in the most simplistic way, which is, if you've got a lot of shit, you're going to do whatever it takes to keep your shit.
00:57:30.000And you'll do all kinds of crazy shit to try to maintain power and control.
00:57:37.000And what really sucks is that if you did the opposite, if you did what that sheriff did, you actually not only get what you want, but you get more.
00:57:55.000Being very inefficient and terrible at being selfish and greedy.
00:57:59.000If you were really selfish and if you were really greedy, You would make sure that the well-being of your population was met so that there was reverence for your position.
00:58:08.000And if there's reverence for your position, then you have the goodwill of people and it's easier to make things happen.
00:58:24.000It's like the type of person that wants to be in that position is the type of person that just wants control and power.
00:58:29.000They want people to be afraid of them.
00:58:31.000Even the way Trump talks about it, he talks about using dogs.
00:58:36.000He's talking about using the most vicious dogs.
00:58:41.000He's got such a foolish way of communicating in times of crisis, and that's what's really dangerous, because some people are really good in times of crisis.
00:58:50.000Obama was very good in times of crisis.
00:58:53.000Even George W. George W. gave a speech after 9-11 that made everybody love him.
01:00:06.000Because he's like, Justin Trudeau is like this super social justice warrior guy, and he's a handsome fellow with a beautiful thick head of hair.
01:00:16.000If all of a sudden Trump wakes up and he's in MMA shorts with his big man boobs.
01:00:59.000Like, if you wanted your government to fight, how about better yet...
01:01:04.000We break it down to one versus one, and the best controlled situation where we're going to lose the least amount of life, you challenge to a duel the other person from the other country.
01:03:25.000I mean, on a human, I need to accomplish something level, that's, you know, that's good.
01:03:32.000If there's something, you know, I was asked today that Maria Bamford had a questionnaire, 25 questions that you're supposed to answer for a certain column or something like that.
01:03:42.000And one of the questions was like, did you learn something from someone that you didn't like?
01:03:48.000And in a way, like in that video, it's like, well, I don't like Putin, but...
01:07:35.000He said it's a humorous anecdote that Kraft retells for laughs.
01:07:40.000He loves that the ring is in the Kremlin and, as he stated back in 2005, he continues to have a great respect for Russia and the leadership of President Putin.
01:11:58.000But those old ones, when you're going around a corner, you have to stay on the gas.
01:12:05.000You can't let off the gas if you go around the corner or they get something called lift throttle oversteer.
01:12:11.000So as you lift off the throttle, the car will oversteer and many a dude lost their lives because the ass end kicked out because they didn't know how to drive these cars correctly.
01:12:23.000Now, if you know how to drive the car correctly, you can actually manage that oversteer.
01:12:27.000There's something about those old cars that once you learn how to drive them, and I'm by no means an expert in how to drive those old cars, but there's something about that sliding that you know how to time.
01:12:38.000So you know how to time that slide and it actually gets you into these corners better.
01:15:56.000There's a couple guys from Japan, a bunch of brasilaros, some guys from Brazil, Americans, this woman from Florida who I follow on Instagram, who's badass.
01:18:27.000Like the kind of the favorite Brazil guy, there were two Brazil racers actually, a really young guy who was like, he and his father have this amazing relationship and he's super regimented and strict about his training and stuff like that.
01:18:39.000And then this other dude, who's his friend, that he taught the younger guy how to drift.
01:18:47.000They know each other and they're competing against each other.
01:18:49.000But the guy, the older guy, he wears this cowboy hat and he wrecked his car and didn't have enough money to build a new car for drifting years and years ago.
01:18:58.000So it was a big deal for him to put a car together.
01:22:39.000It's so, they're riding this fucking razor edge of performance and Ayrton Senna was famous for having these spectacular instincts, but ultimately died in a crash.
01:22:51.000Yeah, I mean, and unfortunately, you know, fortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately, he had the crash, but then they changed so much, you know, because the racers were complaining about, like, how dangerous it was.
01:23:02.000Well, he was responsible in some way for the design of the NSX. Oh, really?
01:23:09.000Yeah, they had an Ayrton Senna version of the NSX that didn't have a sunroof.
01:23:13.000It had a solid fixed roof, and I think they did some different modifications to the suspension.
01:23:21.000It's kind of crazy when you look at it, you know, we were talking about cars earlier before we started the show, and modern sports cars are so goddamn fast, they have so much horsepower, but the NSX, when it came out, I think, I want to say it had 275 horsepower.
01:26:11.000I know they took some liberties here and there.
01:26:13.000But, yeah, kind of a cool lesson in decisions that companies make about emotional products, you know, and also just like, you know, dudes being dudes or whatever.
01:26:28.000Like, well, we're going to create a race program that's going...
01:28:00.000And then he ended up buying a Pontiac Firebird.
01:28:05.000I forget what color it was, but it was a type of green.
01:28:11.000Anyways, he had this amazing American sports car in Europe, and everyone was freaking out over it.
01:28:16.000And he had that, and then his second car was a...
01:28:19.000I can't remember what his third car was, but then his car after that was a Chrysler Cordoba, which was kind of just like a classy, chill, kind of, yeah, like a luxury sedan is what it was.
01:28:33.000But it was still two-door, so it was a luxury coupe, I guess.
01:28:40.000So then when I finally got my stuff together, and I had enough credit, thanks to my business managers, and knock on wood, I had enough credit where this car that I have, it cost me very little money.
01:29:25.000This is the first time I've seen one of the new ones in person.
01:29:28.000And I was saying that your car is, it's not understated, but it is compared to the Turbo S, but it's the perfect amount of sleek design, but slightly, compared to a car, for the amount of performance that that car has under the hood,
01:29:45.000Or under the bonnet, I guess you would say, because it's the rear.
01:31:36.000And it has tech that all cars should have, you know?
01:31:38.000I mean, the way I viewed it is like, you know, I wanted to drive a Porsche because everybody who drives Porsche always says the same thing.
01:33:28.000It has adaptive cruise control, which is a very, very important thing when it comes to...
01:33:32.000Any car, really, but a sports car especially, and I didn't have it in the TTR. So if you're in bumper-to-bumper traffic, you're just pedaling back and forth, pedaling back and forth, and it sucks.
01:33:42.000But with the Porsche, I just set it, you know, and just cruise, and it had lane keep assist.
01:35:18.000And then I'm going to probably move on to, I don't know, something.
01:35:21.000Or maybe I'll just, you know, something will happen and the world will completely change and I'll have no access to my resources and I'll just go back to just gardening.
01:35:29.000Yeah, man, you might have to get an axe.
01:36:40.000It's the things that happen when people don't have anything.
01:36:43.000You've greatly increased the amount of people that are fucked.
01:36:47.000And then you've thrown this horrific circumstance where we all get to watch a video of someone being murdered by a cop while these other cops sit around and watch.
01:36:57.000And then this is all compounded by all these videos.
01:36:59.000There's a video that I tweeted where this fucking guy is at a stoplight And these Denver cops are shooting his car with pepper gas.
01:37:09.000And he's like, hey man, my fucking pregnant girlfriend's in this car.
01:38:46.000Someone should have gone over there, liked that fucking sheriff from Flint, talked to him, apologized, and then keep the car moving.
01:38:53.000The problem is, you know, my friend Tim Kennedy was tweeting this, that there needs to be some...
01:38:58.000He's a ranger, a special forces guy, and used to fight in the UFC, and he tweeted there needs to be some sort of a fundamental change in how we train law enforcement.
01:41:36.000And I talked to my friend Scotty, Scotty Reitz, or back in the day, he was just like saying like, I was in SWAT in the 70s in LA. And we were part of the first league of SWAT. And he's like, the shit that people would do that he would see in the department all the time and would They had to deal with and then there were all like those purges that happened throughout the the years You know once yeah,
01:41:56.000there'd be this corruption thing and then they would just have to fucking let go.
01:42:03.000That was the people that they suspected someone from the rampart unit of killing Biggie They think that yeah, yeah, there was a crazy Rolling Stone article that someone paid him off They suggested it was Suge Knight that was involved and Oh my god.
01:43:54.000And everybody was committing crimes and helping people commit crimes and hiding millions of dollars in holes in the ground in their backyard.
01:44:02.000They think to this day, there's a bunch of dead people that died with millions and millions of dollars in their backyard just buried in holes.
01:45:20.000Just come out there and I'm like, what do you have to do?
01:45:22.000Most of it is stopping people from bringing in booze and keeping people from doing certain shit.
01:45:28.000First day I got there, okay, there's a dude named Alley Cat.
01:45:30.000Alley Cat was the head security guy who ran the joint.
01:45:33.000And they caught this kid, this drunk kid, stealing a golf cart, because everyone would drive around the concert area and golf carts, security guys would.
01:45:42.000So this drunk kid stole this golf cart, they tackled him, and I watched him beat the fuck out of this dude with a walkie-talkie.
01:45:49.000Like, beat this dude in the head with a walkie-talkie.
01:47:57.000But you understand how that can happen.
01:47:59.000I remember very clearly that even I was developing, I was mad at people for not listening to me.
01:48:05.000Like I would say, hey man, I told you, park your fucking car on the other side of the line.
01:48:08.000I'm like, why am I talking to this guy like this?
01:48:10.000It becomes, obviously I was 19 and I was a moron, but there's a thing that happens when you have the power and you have control and there's a bunch of other guys with you.
01:48:20.000So I have this team of goons that were with me and then there's these people that don't want to listen.
01:48:27.000And I'm like, hey, I fucking told you to pick that up and put it over there.
01:49:22.000And it's hard when it's in a complex situation, like urban environments, you know, where you're like, there's city streets, tall buildings, compact areas, tiny, tiny streets winding around, whatever.
01:49:33.000You know, it's different than being like a cop in like from my hometown, Great Falls, like, you're just cruising around a cruiser, and you can see pretty clearly in every direction, and it's laid out like a grid.
01:49:41.000This call comes in, someone stole a chicken!
01:49:44.000Yeah, and you're just like, oh, well, better go check.
01:49:46.000That's probably all Hank Swenson, if I'm not mistaken.
01:49:49.000Oh, Hank, that chicken-stealing son of a gun.
01:49:51.000Oh, God, you know, or it's some meth kid that's, like, standing in the middle of traffic or something like that, or something like that.
01:49:57.000But it's just totally different rules.
01:50:00.000And not only that, but everything is so, oh, it's so...
01:50:03.000It's so hard to feel like you can communicate with police officers.
01:50:07.000There's never a time when I get pulled over, and I know police officers, but I get pulled over, I'm just immediately terrified.
01:50:12.000And also because I'm a black man, so my immediate thing is, okay, so keep the hands on my wheel.
01:50:19.000The windows are rolled down all the way.
01:50:40.000I know that for those officers that feel that way, it's going to be tough, but they really need to be the ones that are the majority, or at least that are made known to be the majority.
01:50:50.000And then from the cops perspective, anyone you pull over could be the guy that shoots you.
01:50:55.000Anyone you pull over could be some guy who's out on a warrant and you don't know if you're ever going to see your family again.
01:51:01.000Also, I think there's a giant percentage of them that are dealing with just crippling PTSD. Yeah, there's definitely PTSD, and there's also a lack of communication to civilians to be able to also pre-deescalate, you know?
01:51:17.000Because so many videos that I watch, those dash cam footages of people saying, like, you know, a cop coming up to the window and saying, license and registration, and then their immediate thing is, what are you pulling me over for?
01:51:27.000And then the cop is like, can I just have your license and registration?
01:52:16.000But it's hard, you know, but you have to hold the line.
01:52:19.000It's harder when everything's against you, when everyone's expecting you to do the wrong thing.
01:52:24.000Well, one thing that's a positive trend, and this is not something that people really even want to discuss after someone gets murdered by the cops, there's been a distinct drop in people being killed by cops since 2015,
01:52:40.000particularly in black men being killed by cops.
01:52:43.000I think I think it's one of those things where whenever something like this happens, it's a catalyst for change.
01:52:52.000It's almost like we need, first of all, How ironic is it that Colin Kaepernick takes all that shit for kneeling at the Super Bowl and this fucking guy kneels on this guy's neck and proves the point.
01:53:08.000Kills the guy by doing the very thing that Colin Kaepernick was criticized for.
01:53:14.000Going down on one knee and doing it to a black guy and killing him.
01:53:49.000They didn't want anybody being the guy who gets attention from protesting.
01:53:54.000They're like, this is a bad precedent to set.
01:53:56.000I don't know anything about football, so I don't know what his skill level was, whether or not he would...
01:54:02.000I mean, those guys get pushed in and out anyway.
01:54:05.000Like, the number of years that a guy can play, the average number of years that a guy can play professionally in the NFL, I think it's like two.
01:54:23.000Yeah, but it's like, you know, it's the same thing with Facebook and Zuckerberg and his, like, you know, his continued position of, like, well, we've got to balance things.
01:54:57.000So what you do is a reflection of what you believe in, right?
01:55:02.000So in his particular case, he must actually believe this, but he just believes that to say nothing, to do nothing about the things that are posted, which...
01:55:12.000You know, you can argue in court all day.
01:55:14.000Does it incite violence or is it just someone expressing their free speech or, you know, whatever the deal is.
01:55:20.000But if someone's consistently hitting a certain angle and the response is pretty palpable and fairly measurable, and yet you choose to just allow it to be what it is because, you know, people will figure it out.
01:55:35.000They'll educate themselves, that type of a thing.
01:55:38.000You have to take some kind of a position from a humanitarian point of view.
01:55:42.000And I think that I'm very disappointed in social media in general because they're trying to protect their bottom line.
01:55:49.000And that's really what it comes off as.
01:55:52.000It doesn't come off as like, well, I want to protect free speech.
01:55:55.000It, to me, comes across more like we need to protect our bottom line because if we start editing something, then it's going to be a huge landslide.
01:56:03.000Everyone's going to be like, oh, well, screw these guys for stifling free speech and all of that stuff.
01:56:09.000When in actuality, the only reason why you would make decisions like that are really just to protect the bottom line.
01:56:16.000I don't really understand any other...
01:56:20.000I mean, even Apple takes a position, you know, like Tim Cook will issue a letter that's then able to be circulated and you can read the letter and like, oh, okay, that's interesting.
01:56:29.000They don't believe in this and they don't believe in this as a company.
01:57:03.000Apple makes phones and computers and they have an app store and, you know, they take down bad apps and, you know, things that they find that are spying on people and the like, but they don't really have the same dilemmas that someone like Facebook has.
01:57:17.000When you talk about the importance of free speech, when as soon as you decide, okay, this person can't talk, but this person can, what you're essentially saying is my viewpoint is better than the viewpoint of the person that I disagree with.
01:57:36.000Now, if you have very specific things, like you can't dox people, you can't threaten people, you can't say anything racist or sexist or homophobic or...
01:57:47.000Once you establish those parameters, if you decide that this is how you're going to operate, if this is your company, There's a real good argument that you should be allowed to do that because it's your company,
01:58:03.000but then when the company gets big enough where it's like Facebook or Twitter, then you get a real argument like, wow, the best argument for bad speech, the best antidote, is more speech.
01:58:18.000So if someone says something that's wrong, there's a real education value in being Being able to correct that and having other people correct it, like just eliminating it in some ways strengthens the resolve of the people that hold that marginalized idea,
01:58:35.000whether it's racism or sexism or whatever.
01:58:37.000When you just eliminate it, then they go off and it tends to strengthen their resolve.
01:58:44.000And then, particularly when it comes to things like right-wing issues or left-wing issues, if you're running a – there's no right-wing social media site that's as popular as the left-wing ones – but if there was, and they just decided, we're not going to tolerate any trans stuff, If you start talking about how a man who has a sex change is now a woman,
01:59:04.000we're going to tell you to go fuck yourself.
01:59:11.000That's the kind of shit that right-wing zealots would do to people that hold left-wing ideology.
01:59:18.000But Conversely, you do see that from people who are left-wing zealots, who are angry about people who have right-wing ideas, and maybe even not so right-wing.
01:59:31.000I'm sorry if you've heard this before, I used this.
01:59:34.000Example, if you're listening, Megan Murphy, who is what you would call a trans-exclusionary radical feminist.
01:59:42.000They call her a TERF. And what that means is she's a person that's a feminist that doesn't believe that you can just change your sex and then you can have these arguments and deal with women's issues.
01:59:52.000Like, a trans person she believes is different than a woman and a feminist.
01:59:58.000And there was some sort of a debate she was having online with someone on Twitter, and she said, but a man is never a woman.
02:00:06.000And so they told her she has to take that down.
02:00:22.000Look, it's one thing if you're shitting on someone and you're mad at someone, you're saying a man is never a woman.
02:00:27.000But if you want to just talk biology, a man is never a woman.
02:00:31.000So if you're a person who is a left-wing progressive zealot and you don't want anybody that's not adhering or complying to the ideology of progressive people, You ban someone like that.
02:00:52.000My opinion in that case is you let that woman say that, and you let people correct her, and you let people correct the people that correct her, and you get a lively debate where people get to discuss whether or not they are different things.
02:01:06.000And I think there's a real valid intellectual argument in that.
02:01:10.000There's a valid social argument in that.
02:01:12.000See, but this is the problem with censorship.
02:01:14.000Well, you know, and my thing is, like, I'm not exactly, I'm not saying, I'm not saying to censor.
02:01:20.000I'm just saying weighing in on the conversation.
02:01:25.000But what specifically are we talking about?
02:01:28.000Well, I'm just saying like, uh, for instance, if I look at my comments, uh, so they say I post something on Twitter and there's all these comments or whatever, like, like a lot of my friends who have Twitter accounts, they may, uh, they may read the comment and be like, oh, that guy's an asshole or whatever and never say anything.
02:01:44.000And there's just like all of these, you know, comments that are some of those just troll people just trying to get reactions and stuff like that.
02:01:51.000I like to personally engage all of that shit and I like to come at them with a conversation.
02:01:57.000And the thing that ends up happening with something like Facebook is because it's – I'm just a – I guess I'm biased because I don't think very much of Zuckerberg at all.
02:02:08.000And he's just kind of a little bit of a thief or a lot of bit of a thief.
02:02:13.000He's a thief and he's not an innovator in any way.
02:02:18.000When you say a thief – Well, because he stole the ideas.
02:02:22.000I have some people that were going to school with him around that time period, and he just basically stole the initial code for Facebook, which was generated by a few different people, and just kind of made off with it.
02:02:36.000It's like how many companies are formed.
02:03:08.000All I know is that in the beginning there was that, and then in parallel, as it was growing and as they were making decisions, I would hear from people that are in his orbit that would kind of describe his decision-making processes and so forth.
02:03:21.000And I don't get a sense that he understands...
02:03:29.000His social responsibility or his responsibility to the identity of the company seems very far removed.
02:03:37.000It's like a little bit laissez faire in a sense that...
02:03:42.000Going back to my comments, I'm commenting on those things because I'm letting people comment, but I'm engaging in a conversation with them in hopes that we can talk about stuff.
02:03:52.000Are you open to anybody being able to comment back to you and say whatever they want?
02:04:31.000Like, once someone comes in and says, hey, we would really like it if you removed those things that talk about some of the mean stuff that we do over here, and we're willing to do business with you, but we want you to put filters up.
02:05:12.000Whenever power is consolidated, there are always going to be problems because there's going to be all these different ways that people wish that it were and it's not working for them in this way and so forth.
02:05:25.000My thing is the future is distributed.
02:05:28.000It's a distributed network, distributed social networks.
02:05:31.000I have my own app, WhatsApp, that I created.
02:05:43.000I created a bunch of interviews with Jack White and Leslie Feist and Fred Armisen are on there in this stupid series I call Droneversations that shot entirely on drones.
02:05:52.000And you can't really hear the conversation because the drones are too loud.
02:06:28.000But my thing was, if I can create a template and keep getting the price down to make an app and they're just using the template that I created for other artists and other bands, then we can have a distributed network of apps that can intercommunicate with one another without the need of Facebook,
02:06:44.000Instagram, any of these social media platforms.
02:06:48.000And that way, when a fan comes to visit my site, they know it's my shit.
02:13:33.000So he takes these 2019, and I think that's the most recent you can buy, like a Motorola Android phone, and they take all the Google out of it.
02:13:44.000And so Google's no longer tracking you.
02:15:33.000He's just talking about all the different ways in these videos that he makes on YouTube all the different ways that you're being tracked and Through your fingerprints, through your Face ID, through every Google search, all your location data.
02:15:44.000And, you know, there's this recent thing that came up where Google is being sued in Arizona because they turn location services on even when you have it off.
02:16:09.000I mean, it's like, you know, I have this a little bit of that dumb attitude, but it is an attitude where I'm like, well, I'm going to do everything I can to protect myself.
02:17:30.000Well, I mean, I guess there's so much value in knowing.
02:17:35.000Once Facebook started getting insanely rich just off of data, there's so much value in knowing what you're up to, knowing where you're going, knowing what you're buying, knowing what you're seeing.
02:19:48.000Subscription to me is cool if Instagram and Facebook went to a subscription model so that I didn't have to see any of the fucking ads and that I was guaranteed that my tracking was being limited.
02:21:09.000That, you know, privacy is one day going to be a thing of the past.
02:21:12.000And not just in terms of, like, what you browse, but I think what you think.
02:21:16.000You know, one of the things that Elon said to me in the last conversation I had that really creeped me out is, like, you're going to be able to talk without words.
02:21:50.000So that idea of like being able to talk without words, it's like that happens all the time anyway.
02:21:54.000So you ever go on a dance floor and watch people like dancing and like someone's like communicating and they're just body language.
02:21:59.000They know what's going on or you're about to call your friend and suddenly your friend calls.
02:22:03.000That's why we communicating without words like on the dance floor is a perfect example of like one of them Porsches where the ass end goes out.
02:22:56.000You know, one minute they're teaching you a bunch of routines and then the next you're in a bathtub with no liver.
02:23:02.000Yeah, you're making out with some eastern block chick and all of a sudden you fall asleep and you wake up and there's a deep pain on the right side of your body.
02:24:09.000Most large cultural epicenters have had these moments where things kind of came into balance after some great turmoil and we were able to just put on cruise control for a little while and explore more in-depth, nuanced things about who we are.
02:24:25.000But those things existed before social media.
02:24:28.000I think the only way we're going to be able to pull that off today is with mushrooms.
02:24:32.000We're gonna need something that lets people know, like, oh, this reality that you're in is a very bland, two-dimensional projection.
02:24:44.000Of the reality that you can experience with our little fungus friends.
02:24:49.000Just a little bit of an escape from this tired realm into a land of infinite possibility of love and understanding and connectedness and a dissolving of the ego The likes of which you've never experienced before.
02:25:05.000If we could all do that, if that could be legal, look, marijuana has radically changed the culture of California, radically changed the culture of Denver, radically changed the culture of everywhere where it's been legalized.
02:25:17.000And it's changed the way people communicate with each other.
02:25:20.000It's changed their ideas about law enforcement because we're no longer worried about jackbooted thugs knocking down our door because we like to smoke a plant that makes us happy.
02:26:03.000We need rituals, some sort of psychedelic rituals, and best processed by real legitimate professionals and real established centers where people actually know what they're doing.
02:26:16.000We could help people get past this bump in our evolutionary travels.
02:26:43.000Because when children are born and their eyes are flinting everywhere and they're trying to absorb as much as they can about the world, they don't care about color.
02:27:13.000This planet is a part of a solar system.
02:27:15.000The solar system is a part of blah, blah, blah.
02:27:16.000And you also realize that your life experiences and your memories and even your personality is basically like a tiny pop-up tent that you've set up in the wilderness of real consciousness.
02:27:56.000And it's like, you know, I mean, and guaranteed I've had arguments with people.
02:27:59.000I mean, I remember there was like a skinhead on a bus once and we had a conversation together and he was still an active skinhead and we were sitting across from each other.
02:28:08.000But we kind of like, he commented on something I was wearing or something like that.
02:28:14.000We were talking about mutual things and then he got, he got up to get off the bus and he just kind of looked at me and just kind of went...
02:28:21.000And he just kind of shrugged and walked off.
02:28:57.000You know, I talk to my friends about it.
02:28:58.000It's like, there is a way, if you're smart, you're intuitive, and you're emotionally intelligent enough, you can always find your way to that person's core.
02:29:09.000If you can share one value, you can make it, you can learn something, even if it's a brief moment, just for a second, an interconnected moment with another person who shares none of your values at all.
02:29:25.000He is a blues musician who has personally converted more than 200 KKK and Nazi members and got them to leave.
02:29:35.000And he did this, he got them to leave these hate groups, and he did this because he met a guy at a gig.
02:29:42.000He was doing a gig, and he met this guy, and the guy was like, you play, you know, you're a really good musician.
02:29:46.000And they get to talking, and he sits down with the guy, and the guy says to him while he's talking to him, well, I never had a drink with a black guy before.
02:31:57.000It just works because, like, once you're just, like, you're not noticing the stuff and you're just casually talking, you're shooting the shit with somebody and you're like, oh, yeah, it's cool.
02:32:04.000Oh, I love, you know, and then before you know it, they're just like, oh, what?
02:32:12.000You're like, but they shouldn't be, but I was scared of, but I thought, you know, it's like the first time you meet, like the first time I saw like a queen, you know, like a drag off, you know, and I was like, they're so tall and so boisterous, so big,
02:32:28.000and I was like, I'll never be able to You know, be able to energetically mingle with someone like that and come to understanding.
02:32:34.000And then I've had some of the most incredible conversations with so many people of all different kinds of walks of life that I thought I didn't hate them or anything.
02:33:03.000And a lot of it is just being confident enough in yourself that you're like, whatever they're doing, whatever they're projecting at me, I understand it's them projecting at me.
02:34:10.000I think they've moved on, but they've changed.
02:34:13.000And I had some early, when we first moved there, problems with my dad sitting on the porch smoking his cigarettes and people going like, what's that guy doing out there?
02:34:25.000But all of these neighbors came out and people came down from the street, you know, and they're just like, oh, what's going on?
02:34:30.000They're like looking at the car and they're like, oh, hey, can I grab a picture and stuff like that?
02:34:34.000And the thing that I noticed, it's like, that was the first time all my neighbors were like together on the street for this moment.
02:34:41.000And then I kind of realized, well, when you have a platform where people recognize what you do, and oh, by the way, congratulations on Spotify.
02:34:54.000But when you have a platform, and you could be any way you wanted to be to anybody coming up to you if they recognize you from your platform, but if you are open and inclusive and taking the time to spend with people...