On this episode of Bands Back Together, the guys talk about how they got back together after a long break. They talk about some of their favorite memories together, and what brought them back together in the first place. They also talk about what it's like to be in a rock band, and how they came back together. They also discuss some of the craziest things that have happened to them in the past year, and why they decided to re-unite. And of course, they talk about the new song they're writing for the new movie they're in the middle of making. We hope you enjoy this episode, and stay tuned for the next one! Stay tuned to the end of the episode for our next episode, where we talk about a new song the band is writing and why it needs to be named after Brad Pitt. Cheers, the boys. -Jon & Ben (feat. Chad Dawson) Jon & Chad Dawson (Bands Back Again) (Music by Chad Dawson and the rest of the band) Music by the band Chad & the boys (Bradley Cooper) Chad and the band's new song (Chad Cooper and more! (Karen & the band ) Brad and the boys talk about their new song and how it's coming out in the next episode of the new music they're doing in a few weeks. , and much more! Cheers! -Jon and the boyz - Ben & the guys . Ben and the rockin' back together again! and the guys are back together! Thank you so much love you all so much! - Jon & the other guys! -Ben & the rest are back again! - The band is back together, we love you, we're back together!! - Chad & The boys! - Jon and The band are back! - Ben and The boys are back with you! - Chad and The rest are all back together with the rest! - Cheers - the whole gang back together!!! Thankyou, Ben & The rest of our thoughts and love, JB! - JB & The band's back together ! JB. (JB & the whole team back together , JB and the gang is back!! & JUICY! - SONGS BACK AGAIN! -
00:06:46.000Whether you have kids or don't have kids.
00:06:47.000When you don't have kids, you have the option to love and support the kids in your peripheral area, like my nieces and nephew and stuff, and my friends' kids, and then you can go home and you don't have to deal with the other shit.
00:07:01.000But then, for me, it was a strong education.
00:07:05.000Education in humanity and just learning how to be a person, a different kind of person, a person that raises little people, a person that's responsible for babies.
00:13:01.000But, you know, if that's all you got and you're just sort of, like, paid to look beautiful, like, there's something really fucked up about that.
00:14:12.000And for women, I would imagine women already worry about being marginalized for their brain anyway.
00:14:20.000So then it's almost like some of them feel like they have to prove themselves extra because they happen to be pretty and they're a model and people just assume they're a moron.
00:17:18.000I think I told you this, but when we went to dinner afterwards, John Prine was right in front of us, and I... Really, really wanted to tell him how much I loved his music.
00:18:03.000Listen, one of the best music shows I've ever seen in my life is when you guys were on stage with Gary Clark and you were singing Midnight Rider.
00:18:10.000Careful, you might have to pay the Allman Brothers right now.
00:19:17.000That whiskey, Uncle Nearest, this guy named Nathan Green, was at least, to my knowledge, the first recognized master distiller who was an African-American, taught Jack Daniels how to do his thing.
00:20:10.000I am an old woman Named after my mother My old man is another A child that's grown old If dreams were thunder And lightning was desire This old house would have burned down A long time ago That
00:20:42.000flies from Montgomery Make me a poster of an old rodeo Just give me one thing that I can hold on to To believe in this living is just a hard way Right?
00:21:31.000When I was a young girl And I had me a cowboy It wasn't much to look at Just a free rambling man That was a long time No matter how I tried Those years just flown by Like a broken down man Baby Just
00:22:13.000give me one thing I can hold on to To believe in this living It's just a hard way to go Tag it Leaving this living is a hard way to go.
00:23:26.000Isn't that crazy that you know how, whether it's warm or cold, based on the strings, based on you running that thing across, what is that thing called?
00:23:52.000I was watching this one thing on TikTok where they had this girl who was a witch and they said, you know, we want to know, like, have you actively cursed the police officers and have you cursed the looters?
00:24:08.000And she was going, oh yeah, we've already done that.
00:24:11.000We've already put hexes on all of that.
00:24:35.000Well, we all want people to like us and all someone has to do is not like you ferociously and that can make you upset.
00:24:42.000I'm not talking about negative spells.
00:24:44.000But I'm just saying that's the beginning of it, right?
00:24:46.000If someone has a lot of intention and they put intention on you like having a terrible life or you getting diseases and you hear about that, it probably fucks with your head.
00:24:57.000I mean, that's what voodoo is probably all about.
00:29:27.000I think ultimately society needed this.
00:29:30.000They didn't need that guy to die, but they needed this event to snap out of whatever bullshit relationship particularly the black community has with police and the videos that have come out since of police officers doing shit while this is all going on during this like it's like they have a they have a pattern Some of these cops.
00:30:16.000The position of being a person that has that kind of power over people, where people have to comply to you, is just psychologically fraught with peril.
00:30:27.000Whether it's black people, there's a lot of it doing with white people.
00:30:30.000There's a horrible video on my friend Joe Schilling's page.
00:30:33.000Joe, you know, Joe Schilling the kickboxer.
00:30:42.000It's like, is this to serve or protect?
00:30:43.000And this is this old man and the guy has a cane and the cops are slamming into him with their shield and he goes flying and falls and hits his head on a bike rack.
00:32:28.000Dakota Meyer is a guy who served overseas and had some horrific instances where he literally had to fight a man to the death and kill him with a rock.
00:33:09.000I could text him if we have to but they give it to Soldiers and people with PTSD and whatever that anxiety is all that fucking pent-up shit that just you just can't be normal It goes away and it can last for as long as a year What?
00:33:31.000It's administered by healthcare professionals into the neck of an individual with screens suffering from PTSD. The treatment is not a cure for PTSD. He was talking about how amazing it was.
00:33:50.000It's not a cure, however, it's highly effective, well-tolerated, fast-acting, inexpensive biologic technique that provides prolonged relief from the debilitating symptoms of PTSD. Did they just start doing that?
00:35:10.000And now that I'm leveling out, It's so weird to live – I can function better.
00:35:16.000I can process my stress in a way that I never could for over a decade.
00:35:21.000And the reason I was – I was reading about Saraset – I think they did this study.
00:35:27.000I'll send it to you at some point and we could probably post it.
00:35:30.000But the – The conditions that police officers are under physically, like from night shifts just to stress to what you said, opening the door and seeing all these just horrifying things and not having the therapeutic elements and rehabilitation.
00:35:41.000And then you factor in racism or just discrimination.
00:35:46.000Like, I mean, it's a lethal combination and it's so crazy to just see it like we are every day now.
00:36:05.000You got to go in there and you got to get it rid of anyone who exhibits any sort of behavior like that in any way, in any abusive, you can't have any abuse.
00:36:15.000Because you have an extraordinary ability to control people.
00:36:18.000A normal person is not allowed to treat people like that.
00:36:21.000So for you to be able to do that, you have to show that you're an unusual person.
00:37:12.000Well, another thing that came out of this whole COVID thing, and then with this coming afterwards, it's like, when you're dealing with perpetually crime-ridden neighborhoods, like, they've had crime in them forever, and a lot of these neighborhoods are African-American neighborhoods that have had crime,
00:37:30.000like, whether it's the south side of Chicago or outside of Baltimore, like, when you see how the government can spend so much money bailing out corporations that are fucked, But they don't bail out cities that are fucked?
00:38:47.000But you can do a way better job of protecting people from crime, a way better job Of insulating them from drug deals and all that crazy shit.
00:38:57.000Well, and shielding them or integrating people in a healthier way into an economic system that addresses their needs.
00:39:04.000But that's what we're so vulnerable from, from a leadership perspective.
00:39:10.000Because of lobbying and because of just like a natural instinct of self-protectionism.
00:39:16.000And like, well, I've got to make sure that my family is taken care of first and not.
00:39:19.000The cornerstone speech that Killer Mike encouraged people to read, did you guys read that?
00:39:32.000I was going to say president or vice president of the confederacy.
00:39:35.000And like for all intents and purposes like the first half of the speech was like pretty logical in terms of commerce and how to care for your cities and like you know just you know economics and then he just gets down to this part where he talks about African Americans is like They're subhuman.
00:39:55.000It's just so clear cut and dry in his mind that the superior race is white.
00:40:01.000By God, he was quoting the Bible and thousands and millions of people, millions of people Follow that ethos.
00:40:45.000Well, it's weird walking in, being an adult in 2020, right, and not having anything to do with anything that happened in the 1800s, but you walk into the wake Of that era,
00:41:17.000Like, we have a thing that we do with Native Americans, right?
00:41:23.000We kind of acknowledge that our settlers, the European settlers, the original great—whether they're your relatives or not, mine aren't.
00:41:30.000Mine all came third—I'm third generation, so my family arrived in the 20th century.
00:41:35.000But the people that arrived— Earlier than that, like if your family goes all the way back to 1600, there's some fucking Native American blood on your hands, son.
00:42:15.000If they started finding wealth on their lands, then it got even worse.
00:42:20.000I just read this book called Killers of the Flower Moon, which is just a...
00:42:25.000A horrifying thing that happened in our history that is not well known with the Osage Native American tribe in Oklahoma, and they were all forced onto this reservation, and it turned out to be millions and millions of dollars rich in oil.
00:42:41.000And then all of the members of the tribe were given head rights, and every year all these white people would come in, and they would rent their land basically for oil rigs.
00:42:55.000And each member of the tribe had millions of dollars.
00:42:57.000But the government didn't recognize them as full citizens, so they were given stewards to manage their wealth.
00:43:04.000So a lot of them were living in poverty while their fucking babysitters were robbing them, murdering them.
00:43:11.000And the whole book is about this series of murders and also how the FBI was birthed.
00:43:19.000So Hoover used this as his platform because, but the sad part is there was like three dudes that went to jail for killing like 25 people.
00:43:30.000One, they weren't given, they weren't put to death because no white jury could kill them for killing Native Americans because they weren't considered full human.
00:44:55.000I really got into a big, long stretch of being fascinated with Native American history from a book somebody recommended to me called Empire of the Summer Moon about the Comanche.
00:45:06.000And it's really like why Texas is the way Texas is.
00:45:12.000Texas is the way Texas is, mostly, because they fought off the fucking Comanches.
00:45:55.000It changed my perspective of what happened in the West.
00:45:59.000You realize that there were some people that came over here from somewhere in the neighborhood of between 11,000 and 5,000 BC. They made it across the Bering Land Bridge from Asia into America.
00:46:12.000They were basically the same kind of people that lived in Siberia.
00:46:16.000And they were Stone Age when they got here.
00:50:31.000They want to take advantage of people, and they want people to comply with their ideology, and they try to push things and say, if you don't go along with this, we know where you stand, we know where you are, you're on the other side.
00:50:41.000You get forced into some weird compliance.
00:50:44.000You've got to be real careful about that because, again, it's sort of the same thing you see with bad cops.
00:50:48.000When people have power over people, even if it's just psychic power, when people have power over people, they abuse it.
00:50:54.000Well, having a revolution after revolution, you look at the French Revolution or something like that, you know, they tear it down in the name of liberty and then they're just...
00:51:03.000So it's, you know, there's a pattern that we can examine.
00:51:06.000But I think it's important to not, you know, obviously these events are catalyzing, but what we need to take from the event is that we don't need an event.
00:51:34.000So this poor little girl has to deal with, imagine being a 17-year-old black girl watching a man get a knee put on his chest while he's asking, please let me up, please I can't breathe.
00:51:45.000And you know that guy died and you filmed it and your video gets uploaded and the world just explodes.
00:51:51.000There are fucking, there's protests in Tokyo.
00:54:02.000A good friend of ours, per the Trump Bible photo, our friend said, Trump holds a Bible like a guitar player who doesn't know how to play guitar.
00:54:12.000I said he held it like a dirty diaper.
00:54:48.000He stepped down because he said that the abusive use of force that they used to clear out that square so Trump could come in for that photo op.
00:55:11.000You did something to people that were peacefully protesting.
00:55:14.000And it's even scary that maybe he doesn't even know.
00:55:16.000There was some shit that I tweeted today, too, where it's been proven that they used a certain type of tear gas that you're not supposed to use on people.
00:57:22.000So James Miller Jr. who served as the U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for policy from 2012 to 2014 recalled that he swore an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution of the United States and to bear truth and faith.
00:57:35.000An allegiance to the same, similar to what the defense secretary had done before he took office on Monday, June 1st, 2020. I believe you violated that oath, Miller wrote to Esper.
00:57:46.000Miller's reasoning centered on President Donald J. Trump's visit Monday to St. John's Church in Washington, D.C., where police cleared peaceful protesters with tear gas.
00:57:56.000So he could pose with a Bible for photographs.
00:58:00.000That defines 2020, that this was an idea that was not only just throwing up the flagpole, but they're like, fuck yeah, let's do it.
00:58:08.000Wait, I'm sorry, I feel really dumb right now, but what was the, like, was there like a quote under the Bible?
00:58:12.000Like, was it just him or the Bible, or did he have something to say?
00:58:20.000One of the things that's going on is that they lit this church on fire, okay?
00:58:23.000And another thing that's going on is that someone posted that they lit the church on fire, and then CNN's Brian Stelter, is that how do you say his name?
00:58:54.000This place burnt down, and I'm going to go stand in front of it, and I'm going to hold up a Bible.
00:58:58.000Yeah, and that's what he's fighting about.
00:59:00.000There's a lot of ego shit going on with that.
00:59:02.000That's why he decided to stand in front of that church holding that Bible.
00:59:05.000It was also that he's in a dogfight right now when it comes to his constituents, when it comes to the idea of a re-election, when it comes to the fact that everything keeps falling apart.
00:59:16.000He's had the worst set of circumstances, whether he brought it on or not.
00:59:20.000COVID, George Floyd, the fires, the riots.
00:59:24.000He couldn't have predicted any of this, the looting.
01:04:18.000I was trying to get some sense of normalcy, and I was trying to eat food, and I put on Planet Earth, which was very healing at that time, of just being in a total place.
01:07:50.000You know, I just watched the Joe Exotic thing and in regards to that, there's like this weird megalomania with like, Convincing yourself that you have this control over these wild beasts.
01:08:04.000I had these moments where it was really like really first of all they're all bunch of narcissists and they're crazy but I felt really sad for Joe Exotic because it was like what would have happened if maybe he were truly accepted For who he was when he was a kid and loved by his father,
01:08:20.000like would he have gone to these extremes with his life?
01:08:22.000No, but then we wouldn't have enjoyed that fucking amazing show.
01:08:25.000This is my whole point about Grizzly Man.
01:08:28.000Even though that guy lived this fucked up- It's about your entertainment!
01:08:31.000Even though this guy lived this fucked up tortured life, ultimately what was created was amazing and it was entertaining for millions of people.
01:08:38.000It gave millions of people a great feeling watching Grizzly Man and watching Joe Exotic.
01:13:53.000My friend Chewy, who's an amazing musician, he used to be the doorman at the comedy store, he and this guy Dave would carry, who's Marilyn Martinez's husband, who's a hilarious comedian, would carry Richard Pryor to the chair, and they'd put him in the chair, and they would crank up the volume like this.
01:14:41.000But the fact that everybody got to see him when they knew he was rapidly deteriorating, it wasn't going to get better, and he just wanted to be out there with his fans, and people loved him so much.
01:14:52.000And I would go on stage, and it was like I was at a funeral trying to tell jokes.
01:15:01.000First of all, it felt bad because the first time I ever really understood what comedy was, I saw Live on the Sunset Strip in a movie theater.
01:15:08.000My parents took me when I was like 15. And we were in the audience, and I remember looking around at all these people falling out of their chairs laughing.
01:15:15.000And I remember I was laughing so hard.
01:15:16.000I was like, how is this guy doing this by just talking?
01:16:40.000Pull up a photo of Francis, just so he gets an understanding of what the fuck he's writing down.
01:16:45.000Francis Ngannou is absolutely the scariest heavyweight to ever compete in the UFC. I think he's 6'6", 260 pounds, freak athlete who grew up working in the sand mines.
01:17:41.000You're talking about Diaz and suffering.
01:17:45.000People that have had really intense things in their lives that they've overcome and grown from are the most incredible people on the planet.
01:18:16.000We can't control what's coming at us, but you can control how you fucking deal with it and your accountability.
01:18:22.000And I am with you on the front of people that inspire me on that level, that have been through things that I can't imagine but have come out in this...
01:18:34.000Beautiful way that they express themselves with inspiration and comedy and music and acting or whatever, artistic, but, you know, not even art.
01:21:01.000I was reading this whole story about what really happened, that Paul Revere wasn't really riding down the street with a horse saying the British are coming, the British are coming.
01:21:10.000No, another dude did it and he was taking credit.
01:21:40.000The thing is, you know, back to Donald Trump, like, there's just...
01:21:46.000A complete lack of information of like, is this like one person saying this thing, the other person saying this thing, and I'm watching a video and you're telling me it's not true.
01:32:07.000They get out of their own head, they fuck up.
01:32:09.000It could be a clear example of just how she acts all the time, that she is always racist, and she always exaggerates anything that's happening and lies.
01:32:19.000She posted a video after the fact and said, Andrew Schultz talks about this.
01:32:51.000And when you're looking at someone that's doing something awful in a crisis situation, like we've seen people hit people with, I was watching this video the other day, of this lady coming up to this guy on the street, and the only reason why I found this is because people kept saying, dude, is this you?
01:33:06.000Did you hit this lady in the head with a 2x4?
01:33:09.000Because there's this fucking lady in some Spanish neighborhood.
01:33:49.000Yeah, so it looks like they're in front.
01:33:51.000Yeah, see, that's the guy in the white shirt, and they're talking shit to each other, this guy and this girl, which is just so crazy, right?
01:36:00.000But I'm saying, when you look at what it really is, it's a woman who is alone with a man, and the man is catching her doing some shit she's not supposed to do.
01:38:37.000But you also understand, like I've come across, you know, ones that have been killed by wolves.
01:38:42.000We came across, me and my friend Mike, we were in, Mike Harkridge, we were in Canada, in BC. We came across this moose calf that had been destroyed by wolves and torn apart.
01:38:56.000It was like part of me was because it was real fresh like within a few days like maybe a day might have been that day and When they walked away from it because it was like hair everywhere and these stripped down bones And it was just a spot in the middle of the woods where you just came across a moose calf.
01:39:13.000Yeah, and you realize like wow This is how they usually go Yeah, the violence is a different type of violence.
01:41:09.000And when you're fly fishing, you start to become aware of the bugs that are around you and what kind of flies that you want to make for your bait.
01:43:54.000You're thinking about this small insular little world that you live in.
01:43:58.000You're a part of something that's literally infinite and you're flying through it right now.
01:44:03.000And you've decided that it's more important to be able to drive at 10 o'clock down a nice well lit street than it is to see the majesty of the universe.
01:44:13.000Well, the inability to understand that plays into so many of the things we were talking about earlier.
01:44:19.000Just cops freaking out, people freaking out, unable to recognize, you know, a more total awareness in a situation.
01:44:27.000But if you want to boil it down to the natural brass tacks of like, you know, Mother Earth, if you want to look at it that way, saying, go to your fucking room.
01:44:38.000And we have to sit and let her breathe.
01:44:41.000I mean, think about what's happened in the past few months is just in terms of pollution and the way that the earth is growing and breathing.
01:44:46.000All kinds of incredible things are happening.
01:44:49.000Like with the monkeys in, was it India?
01:45:32.000Racism, classism, sexism, all the different isms and all the different biases that things have, people leaning left and leaning right and censoring people that oppose them.
01:45:42.000If you wanted to look at it like a system, like the thoughts are a system and then all the life forms are a system.
01:45:47.000There's some sort of a moving, flowing give and take to all of it, to life and death and the organic...
01:45:57.000Structure of the land that you live on.
01:46:09.000How about we grow these fucking things with chemicals and we put them in a big warehouse and we force Mexicans to work here for $3 an hour.
01:47:42.000You can't eat any of the fish that you catch because sometime in the 70s or 80s the mines that they were using in the area started leaking minerals into the river and it contaminated the area and you'll get really sick.
01:48:15.000It would be an ecological catastrophe of the highest order the United States has ever seen if all the rivers in Montana were polluted to the point where you couldn't eat the fish.
01:48:24.000You're talking about a certain section?
01:48:30.000But even then, one of our last river trips a couple years ago, Ben and I were hired as entertainment for this incredible trip on the Snake River in Hell's Canyon in Oregon.
01:48:44.000I mean, no cell service for three days, so you don't have a fucking cell phone.
01:49:21.000I have aluminum foil, and I planted it in his shit, and I had him standing over it with his pants down to his ankles, giving me the thumbs up, and we're in the middle of Montana.
01:49:32.000Let me tell you something, Callan and I, we hunted for seven days.
01:49:36.000It was one long, ridiculous joke after another.
01:49:40.000All we were doing was stuff like that.
01:51:28.000Slickens are pieces of ground in the upper Clark Fork watershed devoid of life due to heavy metal contamination dating back to the early 20th century flood that washed mine waste off the Butte Hill and down river all the way to Missoula.
01:51:43.000So all the way down there, those fish could die.
01:51:47.000But that's what's so disconcerting is, you know, back to when Ben and I did this river raft trip, which was so, it was just beautiful.
01:51:57.000But I mean, you're in the middle of nowhere, no cell service, like nothing but nature.
01:52:02.000And when we were on the Snake River in Hell's Canyon, it's a canyon, right?
01:52:07.000So any runoff from farms up top is going to end up in the river.
01:52:12.000And we did a lot of fishing and almost everything I caught, any catfish that came up, bass, all had weird abscesses on them.
01:52:55.000That's the darkest deal with mining, right?
01:52:57.000That's the thing that everyone's terrified of.
01:52:59.000I have a lot of good friends that are involved in conservation and a lot of the laws that get passed in terms of what affects wildlife, what areas are allowed to be open for mining and stuff like that.
01:53:11.000They're always moving and trying to stop stuff like that from being happened, from being drilled.
01:53:41.000There's this great book called The Four Fish, and it came out a long time ago, which makes it scarier.
01:53:47.000But the writer talks about the four remaining fish, and then there's all the farming industries and how that's kind of like...
01:53:59.000Just kind of cross-bred into our river systems.
01:54:02.000And so at this point, if someone's like, this is your Atlantic salmon, it's not necessarily the Atlantic salmon that would have been the same salmon.
01:54:17.000I am such an optimist at heart, but in terms of fishing and getting—and you could probably relate to this with hunting—authentic, clean fish, it's not a thing.
01:54:28.000We've fucked with the earth too much with our pesticides and the way that we farm and the way that we try to fuck with nature.
01:54:34.000It's just not—you don't know what you're catching and if you're going to ingest it.
01:54:53.000And he's just one of the best representatives for the best well-read arguments for a hunting, fishing lifestyle.
01:55:03.000But he has this great podcast called Meat Eater, and he had on this guy who wrote this book on salmon, and he was explaining how complicated it is for salmon to bounce back.
01:55:13.000Because if you took some farm salmon and you just threw them in a river with a bunch of salmon that are swimming up river to breed, these dumb salmon wouldn't know where to go.
01:56:39.000It's got other consequences, too, with orcas.
01:56:41.000There's a resident population, I think in the Puget Sound, around Seattle, in the Pacific Northwest, there's a resident population of these dolphins that only eat salmon.
01:57:56.000Well, I think it's also, because we figured out how to make these houses and get away from being eaten, We've gotten super ridiculous about the way we allocate resources, and we made way too many of us.
01:58:33.000But I should say that in the culture of fly fishing, it's more common and respected to catch and release than I would say any other type of fishing.
02:09:27.000You have to be honest and you have to stay away from any sort of forum where someone can judge you in a dishonest way.
02:09:34.000So if you're honest and someone is judging you on Twitter, if they're saying something to you and type on Twitter something mean and nasty to you.
02:09:41.000Like we were talking about earlier before about people who are bullies.
02:09:45.000And people who are bullies like send you things and like...
02:09:48.000When someone does something like that, it's a function of the limitations of the system that you're working in.
02:09:57.000You're working in this weird thing where you're agreeing to type things.
02:10:39.000Maybe like a hundred people over the weekend just like via voice message and video message and Every conversation I had whether I was met with adverse opinions Was peaceful and like because we got to hear each other's voices and I don't want to fight with anybody like that There was a rule of like if you're gonna be nasty I'm not gonna respond to you But if you want to talk to me about your opinions and the the progress that I felt like I was I made for myself just in trying to understand things that I could never understand because It
02:11:24.000That wasn't just reposting things, and that has its purpose as well, but I got to actually talk to people that had something to say, and it was great.
02:11:35.000And all the trolls that like to comment without having any, like, you're not going to fucking get anywhere, I didn't hear from those people.
02:13:27.000I'm not against the sentiment that's attached to good or bad words.
02:13:32.000I want you to be able to accurately express yourself so I can't play games with what you're saying.
02:13:38.000So you say something to me and it seems valid, but then you say the word pussy or something like that, oh, well, now I discredit everything you said because you said a magic word that you can't use in my accepted version of speech.
02:17:14.000Yeah, she got into archery and she found out that a lot of people, what a lot of people found out ever since, I mean, the beginning of time, there's something really weird.
02:17:23.000It's really satisfying about releasing an arrow and watching it land on a target.
02:17:27.000It doesn't have to be, you could be a total vegan and enjoy archery.
02:17:30.000Archery is a sport for everyone just like yoga.
02:17:36.000When you catch a fish, you know how you catch a fish and it taps into some sort of ancient DNA? It's the same thing with archery.
02:17:43.000There's something about, when you watch that arrow, but I think it has to do with the fact that throughout human history, for like thousands of years, that was the best way to kill your dinner.
02:17:54.000You had to have a bow and arrow until they figured out guns.
02:18:46.000It all taps into our human reward system that is designed to reward us for the behavior that makes us more likely to survive, particularly when we're living in a place where we can get eaten, which is most of the human history.
02:21:04.000You know, which is like, when you get to anywhere around dog size, like 70, 80 pounds, you know you're not dealing with a coyote anymore, probably.
02:21:14.000But that's, if there's any animal that I would love to, like, if I could just fucking follow them around with a drone, and just watch them live their lives without me having any idea I was there.
02:24:26.000But listen, this happened, it was up to 40% of the population, stretching from like Texas to, scroll down a little bit, Texas to West population stretching from Southern Texas to West Virginia.
02:24:41.000Hookworms stymied development throughout the region and bred stereotypes about lazy moronic southerners.
02:24:48.000While the South eventually rid itself of hookworms, those parasites cost the region decades of development and bred widespread misconception about the people who lived there.
02:24:59.000Yet hookworm has not been defeated for good.
02:25:03.000Today, hundreds of millions of people in dozens of nations around the world suffer from hookworm infection.
02:25:09.000The South's experience, measured in both successes and pitfalls, can provide a rough blueprint of how to seek out and quash this American murderer no matter where it's found around the world.
02:26:51.000So there's just something in humans where they're able to adapt to the situation.
02:26:55.000It says hookworms aren't endemic to America's, having likely arrived in the U.S. in the 17th century, unwittingly imported with the Atlantic slave trade.
02:28:25.000Look, throughout history, here it goes, contracted by direct contact with feces, as unseemly in the South, unsurprisingly, wanted no association with such a disease.
02:28:52.000I forget the podcast, it might have been NPR, Radio Lab, where they were talking about the South, and one of the reasons why the South is what it is, is they have this sort of honor tradition, and it's like a different way of looking, based on the people that initially...
02:29:10.000Yeah, based on the people that initially arrived in that area, and there's so many factors, and again, you could take this out of context and say I'm some sort of an apologist for racists.
02:29:21.000I'm not, but I think you absolutely have to think that all those people down there, whether it's the people that were the slaves, the people that are slave owners, all those people, most likely had a lot, there was a giant percentage of those people that had that hookworm,
02:29:38.000and who knows how much that affected Just the whole region, the culture.
02:29:43.000There's always gonna be a problem when someone can force someone to work for free, right?
02:31:28.000Have you seen the meme of a child, there's a child with his hands over his head, leaning down, like kids in the future, trying to remember for history class what happened in 2020?
02:31:47.000You posted something the other day and I started following the account.
02:31:50.000It was like Lil Duvall, is that right?
02:31:52.000Lil Duvall is the best follow during the pandemic.
02:31:55.000It's so funny and right on point where there's a woman going like this and it's like, what area of revelations am I looking at now or something like that?
02:32:38.000I think just the nature of the fact that so many people are protesting.
02:32:42.000I think we're dismantling things that haven't worked for a long time, and I don't know what the answers are, but we're bulldozing this shit.
02:32:51.000And I'm hopeful that as a collective people, we will work towards cohesion.
02:34:07.000But I was walking around the Silver Lake Reservoir, and I told Ben I had this, like, you know, every black person I passed, I just, like, I felt more love for them than I have ever.
02:34:21.000I mean, I always feel love for everybody.
02:35:06.000And if you see black folks, and you guys make eye contact, and they know what the fuck is going on in the world, and you know what the fuck is going on in the world, just say, what's up?
02:35:36.000One of the reasons why we're so angry about that man killing George Floyd is because we know in the darkest of darkest regions of all of our minds that is humanly possible for someone to do.
02:35:49.000We know that, and we hope and pray it's not possible for us to do, or anyone we know, or anyone we love.
02:35:56.000Could you imagine if that was your son?
02:35:57.000Can you imagine if your son was on television, leaning on this man's neck for 8 minutes and 40 seconds?
02:36:30.000Not to throw this into the arena, but things I've been reading are white supremacy infiltration into the police force, and that fucking terrifies me.
02:37:05.000That's what we need to concentrate on.
02:37:06.000Instead of getting mad at the people that fuck up and do terrible shit, which is all justified, but we really need to trace this back publicly.
02:37:15.000Like, what is making a cop kill someone by leaning on his neck for eight and a half minutes?
02:37:27.000A person, when you're 35 years old, you're kind of an equation.
02:37:31.000There's a lot of you that is just an accumulated gathering of experiences and your interpretation of those experiences along with your genetics, your neighborhood, your family, all the expectations people have on you, and then boom, here you are.
02:37:53.000And a huge part of that equation is the system we grew up in, which happens to be fucking racist in a lot of ways, or at least has had trouble dealing with that issue from the very beginning.
02:38:47.000Out there with a gun, wading into crime, trying to arrest people, and then he finds this piece of paper and says, oh, this is systemic racism.
02:38:55.000And then he finds out about the red line laws.
02:38:57.000Did you ever see Do the Right Thing, the Spike Lee movie?
02:41:38.000I started doing Zoom sessions on my website as supplemental income and also just to have that experience with people because any live stream I do is just, you're literally fucking looking at yourself and then comments underneath.
02:41:54.000And I don't get to have this experience where I'm sitting across from someone, even digitally, where, you know, it's like...
02:44:00.000We, you know, we're going to do a little podcast this week with each other and just like post a couple songs and it was like a big deal for us and it still is.
02:44:09.000But obviously this week fucking blew up and it wasn't really like lined up.
02:44:15.000But 10 or 15 minutes after we posted on our Honey Honey page that we were going to post some podcast songs, you texted and were like, let's do a podcast!
02:47:14.000I feel like there's something about these marches.
02:47:17.000You've got to take the looting out of the picture.
02:47:20.000Because I think if you want to follow the ideology of determinism, however you got there, there's a combination of a bunch of things that are probably out of your control, and who you are, and where you're from, and who your dad was, and who your mom was.
02:47:38.000There's something about when you hear a song from 1971 or some shit like that, and you realize we're still dealing with the same shit in 2020 that really makes you worry that we're not going to get it right.
02:47:51.000I didn't think you were going to go that way with it.
02:51:44.000And he's done some really interesting work on primates and baboons and that toxoplasma shit that we were talking about before.
02:51:56.000But one of the things that he was talking about, I had a podcast with him a couple years back and He's a really interesting guy.
02:52:04.000He was saying that in the future he thinks that one of the biggest mistakes that they'll look back on with us is that we didn't understand how a human being comes to be the person they are today and how many factors are out of their control.
02:52:22.000And we try to pretend that everybody is that.
02:52:24.000I'm paraphrasing greatly, but it was basically that human beings are responsible for their own actions.
02:52:31.000And that collectively, we all influence each other's actions.
02:52:35.000We're all different people around each other.
02:57:14.000And it was in a photograph and it said, not left, not right, but forward.
02:57:19.000And like this whole bipartisan stuff, like you can't, if you can just take a minute and listen to each other with an open heart, it's so hard for people, but it's really not.
02:58:38.000You know, and it's something that it's taken a long time and experience for us to be able to even communicate.
02:58:43.000I feel like you set me up to, like, our relationship has set me up to, like, face adversity in the world because we have fought so much, but we love each other so much.
02:58:53.000And at the end of the day, we just want to hear each other out.
02:58:56.000And that's the thing with people that are aggressive or disagreeing with your rhetoric.
02:59:01.000Like, they just want to be heard, and so do you.
02:59:38.000I don't want to see another black person get murdered by a police officer in a video ever again, as well as all of the other things that everybody wants to talk about.
03:00:19.000And, like, there's so many details of, you know, we were speaking earlier about police officers and, like, their instability, like, their mental dysfunctional aspects, and, like, that needs to be addressed in,
03:00:59.000So when they go hate-wire, you know those three guys that sat around while that guy kneeled on that dude's neck, like, what do you charge those guys with?
03:01:07.000You know, there's been a real movement to say...
03:01:11.000I wonder how old they were when they joined the force.
03:01:13.000Like, were they kids when they joined the force?
03:01:18.000It's a hundred percent a thing that...
03:01:22.000When you're in it, you're surrounded by people who are there to protect you if shit hits the fan.
03:01:30.000There's a brotherhood that's involved in the police force.
03:01:33.000If I had to guess what's wrong with the police force, but what is right about the Navy SEALs, is that one of them, it's really difficult to get into.
03:01:46.000Like, if you meet a person, and that person is a Navy SEAL, that motherfucker can take some shit.
03:05:05.000There's probably a lot of dudes out there that understand the abracadabra of porn, and they want to stay on the outside edges of the dangerous fear of control.
03:06:10.000I mean, we're getting, like, across the board, we're getting schooled right now.
03:06:13.000Like, all of those, like, quote-unquote comforts or whatever, you know, we're going to funnel our energy into, like, all that shit is, like, fading out.
03:09:11.000And it comes through in this weird melody, this weird sound that you can make with your voice.
03:09:17.000But what you're doing is you're showing people who you are.
03:09:20.000It's showing people who you are through the sound that you can make and these words and we use those sounds and those words as this like translator to figure out what you're really feeling and what you're really thinking.
03:09:36.000When it's wrapped up in your lyrics, the thing that's fascinating about it is how you guys are so tight, and you love each other so much.
03:09:45.000And you're putting words together, and you're singing these words, and you're all putting it together in this music.
03:09:51.000LA River is one of my favorite songs ever.
03:12:54.000And I have no disrespect, but I've always had a really hard time relating to people that are like, I've never been through anything difficult.
03:14:07.000If you're going around a racetrack, you should only go as fast as you can go without sliding off the road and slamming into the fucking trees.
03:15:42.000I just want to say, even though I'm embarrassed about this, but Jamie and I, we did an NAD drip the other day, and he got there faster than me.
03:18:48.000But we've got to be real careful with what we get mad at and what we don't get mad at.
03:18:52.000And here's a great example that fucking everyone, I'm not taking credit for this thought, everyone has had this thought.
03:18:58.000It is so fucking insane that you could get arrested for opening your business just a couple of weeks ago, and you don't get arrested for looting that very same business.
03:19:11.000Last week or fucking Friday night, like, what happened?
03:19:27.000I never trained there, but it's in a 10th Planet family.
03:19:30.00010th Planet Jiu Jitsu, I started out in Hollywood, and now they're in downtown LA. But there's a bunch of them.
03:19:38.000My brother Eddie Bravo has like, I don't know how many gyms he has all over the world, but one of them just burned to the ground in Long Beach for no reason.
03:19:57.000What doesn't make sense is that anybody's frustration bounces off the wall of reality to the point where people get victimized that had nothing to do with your pain.
03:20:07.000Yeah, there's a lot of friendly fire happening right now.
03:20:10.000I think we all want a lot of the same things.
03:20:13.000And in that respect, I'm looking for my Orbitz gum because I'd like to chew it.
03:20:19.000But in that respect, you have such a solid point.
03:20:24.000The ridiculousness of the logic is fucking overwhelming.
03:20:31.000Everyone's kind of saying the same thing, but they're still fighting.
03:21:53.000What year can fuck with 2020 when it comes to all this shit happening together all at once, coronavirus, three-month lockdown of the world?
03:22:02.000I think the onset of World War I and the Spanish flu could probably be like, suck our dicks.
03:22:09.000Close in terms of bodies and all that, but we haven't realized the amount of time that that took place in.
03:22:17.000We never would have imagined in 2020, where we are here in June, that we would be here.
03:23:26.000You know, it's like we have different ways of saying things.
03:23:29.000As soon as you have different ways of saying things, but yet you maintain that if you said, I can take it and put it in print and everybody can know exactly what you said.
03:26:37.000Whenever you think about, or I used to read about a lot of drummers, you know, famous drummers, and eight hours was kind of the magic number.
03:26:46.000All these guys, Tony Williams, even Billy Corgan, who's a great guitar player.
03:39:08.000It's not that I don't support the movement.
03:39:10.000I do, but I don't know who the fuck told everybody to have a black square on fucking election days, on a primary day.
03:39:18.000Okay, even if most people said, okay, I'm going to post a black square, and then I'm going to post my other shit, there's for sure a step back.
03:39:32.000If I knew where it came from, if The Rock got on his Instagram and said, we all need to post a black square To support that we love everyone!
03:42:20.000Right, but that's the thing that doesn't get talked about.
03:42:23.000If you want to talk about presidential campaigns or gubernatorial campaigns, whether it's the Senate or Congress, no one says, like, hey, hey, hey, this is a crazy game.
03:43:14.000I'm listening to the David and Goliath, Malcolm Gladwell book, and it has a lot of that, like, defying the odds in a lot of ways, you know.
03:43:22.000But, you know, in terms of the black box, that is an action that, like, to have a...
03:43:32.000To do something, even if it's so simple as a digital action, in solidarity, it feels powerful.
03:43:39.000It feels like a recognition and a cognizance that is a consciousness that, you know, you can sit here and thought, but when you start to open up a conversation or express yourself,
03:50:04.000You can probably a place like that would probably be easier because there's chairs you say, no one's sitting there, no one's sitting there.
03:50:41.000If I... If I had to write out my shit and then go out like randomly without ever trying it out in an audience, I might hit like 70% of the time.
03:50:53.000That means like 30% of my jokes are gonna be terrible.
03:50:59.000Dude, the pain of 30% of your jokes failing might kill you.
03:51:31.000But don't you think that the 85% you hit when you guys got comfortable Was probably one of the most satisfying experiences you could ever imagine.
03:51:46.000Because you know you went through the beginning.
03:51:50.000Well, and then we both also went off and did different projects and sort of had different assessments of what that percentage spectrum looked like.
03:51:57.000And now that we're sort of coming back to, you know, integrating our music together, it feels so differently.
03:52:05.000Like, we're both such better musicians.
03:52:07.000And I'd like to think, you know, we've had our separate therapy and our work, and so, like, it just feels different.
04:03:52.000We know it was going to be hugs and fun.
04:03:56.000We've known each other for 10 fucking years.
04:03:59.000Ben said, we had a relationship development yesterday, and you said to me about, I said, Ben, I'm really excited for our drive to Joe Rogan because I think we should listen to Run the Jewels and get super pumped up.
04:16:58.000I saw that we are able to tap into the brainstem, the adrenaline.
04:17:05.000We showed lying in bed, people producing more adrenaline.
04:17:10.000Now I know how to show it to people just in a couple of days.
04:17:14.000That means every listener right now is able to do that.
04:17:18.000So we have proven this scientifically and it showed that people lying in bed were able to produce more adrenaline than somebody in fear going for its first monkey jump.
04:17:34.000I'm still confused as to how you're doing anything differently other than deep breathing.
04:17:39.000You're taking a deep breathe in and deep breathe out.
04:17:41.000No, we retent from breathing after exhalation.
04:18:28.000You become lightheaded and at a certain point you're so fully charged and the pH levels go to a very high level, you're able to stay without air in the lung for minutes.
04:20:08.000Carbon dioxide went out, O2 went up, filled up all the cells and the pH levels go up.
04:20:16.000Then we are able to tap into the central nervous system and at the end we got the brainstem.
04:20:24.000And that's the place of the pineal gland, hypothalamus, pituitary gland.
04:20:29.000And the pineal gland makes the secretion of adrenaline in dangerous situations.
04:20:35.000Normally we do not get into it because of our shallow breathing.
04:20:40.000But this is the way to get into the most primitive part, the reptilian brain, without many difficulties and fend off bacteria, getting better into the endocrine systems.
04:21:23.000And this is the way to learn to use it, to tap in and bang, into the primitive brain, into the endocrine systems, immune systems, the way nature has meant it to be.
04:23:18.000I injured my vocal cords and had to go through therapy, and this style of breathing, this is something was addressed and learned to do, and it was incredible how fast I healed myself just through breathing.
04:23:30.000There's also something when people talk loudly, whether they're singing or speaking, there's a thing that we do where we strain the vocal cords.
04:23:43.000Yeah, and that's been a crazy, we were talking about it today.
04:23:47.000Pushing when it comes to your breath and singing is completely antithetical to what you're trying to do.
04:23:53.000And now you're like caught up in the momentum of trying to get people to pay attention.
04:23:59.000But someone like Marvin Gaye or James Brown, they're so calm in those moments, or at least in relation to that behavior, that they're able to resonate with their bone structure in a way that makes you react emotionally.
04:24:13.000Because they're so connected to their breath.
04:24:17.000People talk, Ginsburg talked about Bob Dylan that way.
04:24:19.000He said he got to this point when he was at kind of his peak in the 60s of that power.
04:26:17.000He's an incredible songwriter, and he's a wonderful person.
04:26:20.000And he's one of those that you're just like, that is the real deal.
04:26:23.000And, you know, we're all the real deal in our real different ways, you know?
04:26:28.000But, like, some people have had, like...
04:26:32.000Acutely different paths like Sturgill and it's just like tip of the hat man.
04:26:37.000It's it's really really special like everybody It's all different, you know It's like it's not a contest see who's fucked up more not that that's not what I want that's what so another Music thing is that's a medium.
04:26:53.000You just expressing it's not accomplishment base It's different from sport sport offers different shit, but with music The people with the clearest expression of self are the communicators, as opposed to this degree of achievement.
04:27:08.000And I think that's just a beautiful and linguistic part of it.
04:33:21.000So you run to the river, you run to the sea You sift through the rubble and search the debris But you won't find anything if you don't find peace Ooh,
04:34:41.000Don't wait until you die Cause you can always change your mind and make it right So why are you still waiting outside?
04:35:31.000So come out from the weeds and into my arms Oh babe, I know the dark and how it can harm you Yeah, I've had my conscience rip me apart too So here's what we're gonna do now Take all of your needs and all of your sins And
04:36:01.000all of the losses you threw to the wind We'll carry the weight if it breaks every limb Oh, and that's what we're gonna do now Don't wait until you die Cause you can always change your mind and make it right
04:38:36.000I'm floating on the wind Until I find you You won't feel a change We'll just become the same thing And never spend a single day
04:39:07.000apart Yes, I guess they have Oh, and yes, I've treated them the same as you All but quick I've let them dry And I licked the salty tea as they
04:39:37.000cried And many went from many to afraid The angel of death, babe, the end is near Keep your hand on your chest,
04:39:59.000don't let me whisper in your ear It's best to keep on walking, lock the door When I come knocking, mine's the voice you never wanna hear Maybe
04:41:00.000you'll be shocked by this admittance Cause things are rarely ever what they see Oh,
04:41:18.000I don't mean you harmed by my existence Just let your tired eyes slip into dreams Cause I'm the angel of death,
04:43:24.000I'm really excited that you're friends with me and that you make this music that makes me feel like...
04:43:32.000There's music that makes me realize that there's a purity in expression, you know?
04:43:40.000Sometimes people put out stuff that you just listen to it and you go, oh yeah, that guy is telling the truth or she's speaking from the heart.