In this episode, the boys talk about Magic the Gathering being canceled, George Orwell's new novel, and how social justice warrior mentality is ruining our society. Also, J.J. shares his thoughts on the movie Blackface and why it's one of the worst movies he's ever seen and why he thinks it's good that it's now out of the movie franchise. Also, the guys talk about how the world is falling apart and how we need to engineer a perfect storm that would allow us to get back on track and get back to the way we used to do things and why we should be worried about what s going on in the world and how things are going to get worse and worse. The boys also discuss how the internet is ruining the economy and how it s going to be a disaster in the future and how to stop it from happening. They also talk about social justice warriors and clickbaity and how they re ruining the world, and why you should be mad at them for it. Enjoy the episode and tweet us if you liked it! and don t forget to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts! Timestamps: 5:00 - What's the worst movie you've ever seen? 6:30 - What s the dumbest movie you ve ever watched? 7:20 - Is it good or bad? 8:15 - What do you think of Magic The Gathering? 9:40 - Why it s racist? 11: What's your favorite movie? 12:00: Is it racist? 13: What s your favorite color? 15:00 16: What are you going to do? 17:10 - How do you like it? 18:10 19:40 21:15 22:30 27:30 Is the worst thing you think it s better than it s a good thing? 26:20 25:30 What s a problem? 29:30 Do you like the best thing you ve watched so far? 30:00 Is it better? 31: What would you like to watch? 32: Does it feel like? 33:00 Do you feel like you re having a good day? 35: What is your favorite meal? 36:00 Can you get better than that? 37:40 Do you have a question? 39:30 Can you give me a compliment?
00:00:53.000I mean, like, in the modern world, primetime TV. Jimmy Fallon was doing, well, he's doing a Chris Rock impression, which, by the way, you used to be able to do.
00:01:01.000When I was in high school, my friends were Mr. T for Halloween.
00:01:42.000It just shows how fucked up everything is.
00:01:46.000There's a lot of thin skin out there right now, apparently.
00:01:48.000I just don't, I mean, it seems like a perfect storm.
00:01:51.000Like, if you wanted to engineer the downfall of society, you would do it in several steps.
00:01:57.000You would have a reality show president, where everybody's mad at them, and then all the liberals get their feathers in a ruffle, and everybody gets real super uptight, and then there's this big divide between the left and the right that's kind of, you know, manufactured, and then you'd have this disease.
00:02:20.000So if your business falls apart, you could be the most hard-working, diligent, disciplined person who's always at work an hour early, always has your I's dotted and your T's crossed, and you still go broke, and you're still fucked.
00:02:33.000Then you have this George Floyd thing and then boom it just ignites the power keg the other thing that you have to wrap around all this is this social media which is You know I'm only gonna post things that are just gonna completely make everyone that sees whatever I'm posting emotional and and filled with rage whether you're on the left or you're on the right my goal is to enrage people and That's the goal.
00:03:00.000And then that just gets spun up over and over.
00:03:02.000So you're taking all these little incidents and you're multiplying times thousands and thousands of views.
00:03:08.000And then on top of that, mainstream media is the same thing, right?
00:03:13.000It's not like there's this huge difference between what the mainstream media shows and what social media is.
00:03:36.000And yet, that's what our society is based on right now.
00:03:39.000It's based on these emotional reactions.
00:03:41.000Yeah, because of social media, I think, and because of things like YouTube and user-created content where anybody can kind of make videos, so many things are vying for folks' attention that mainstream media has resorted to click-baity type shit.
00:03:57.000Whether it's New York Times articles, which, you know, used to be beyond reproach.
00:04:02.000They've gone social justice warrior and click-baity.
00:04:04.000And all these other websites are 100% click-baity.
00:04:07.000That's the only way they can get people to pay attention.
00:04:09.000Like, I saw the dumbest fucking article.
00:05:17.000I mean, maybe he felt like they wouldn't shoot at him because the gas tanks were right behind him, the pumps were right behind him, but why would they leave that out?
00:05:25.000Guy with gun in gunfight with cops dies is the right title, not Hispanic man gunned down by cops.
00:05:33.000They're literally trying to incite Anger and violence they know that you read that and you see Hispanic man shot by cops like these motherfuckers They're murderers they won't stop and they leave out this picture of this man with a gun pointing it You're looking at me like I'm going to say some kind of really profound answer.
00:06:01.000Anyone that actually opens it up and reads it would actually probably say something like, hmm, sounds like the cops did a good job on that one and killed a bad guy before he blew up a gas station and killed a bunch of innocent people.
00:07:36.000I think most people are pretty reasonable.
00:07:37.000I think, you know, anybody looking at the George Floyd case is like, yeah, that's completely wrong, that's disgusting, it's horrible, it's heinous to watch.
00:07:46.000I haven't heard anyone say anything other than that.
00:07:49.000So, how are we just getting so completely divided on this whole thing and start attacking people, start attacking each other just over absolutely everything?
00:08:00.000That's a good point because this is literally a case where no one Is saying there's nothing wrong with what that cop did.
00:08:48.000Seven times and you got a risk giving them brain damage permanently injuring them if people know what they're doing I mean Obviously if people know what they're doing.
00:09:01.000Yeah, we're all good Yeah, obviously You know it's the people that are doing it wrong is the problem the people that shouldn't be doing in the first place It's untrained people it's but if you're if you're not you're a cop and you're a fight for your life, and you can't use Chokeholds that's fucking crazy insane you're gonna get shot and killed or somebody else is gonna get shot and killed someone's gonna take your gun yeah,
00:09:24.000and and the idea of defund the police and I I understand the premise okay, and this is once again where Many people that say defund the police, they don't mean, hey, just get rid of police.
00:09:37.000Of course, there's a fraction of people that are saying defund the police means we don't want any more police anymore.
00:09:42.000There's a portion of people saying that.
00:09:44.000There's some people that are saying, well, if we defund the police, we can relocate some of that money and we can do, you know, better schools and we can put money into the infrastructure inside these neighborhoods.
00:10:38.000The thing I've been saying is cops should train one-fifth of the time.
00:10:43.000One-fifth of the time you should be training, whether it's two hours a day, four times a week, or whether it's one day a week, where you're going to go and you're going to go through scenarios.
00:10:58.000I mean being a cop is I think is the hardest job in the world and by the way They're not gonna have to worry about defunding the police because no one's gonna want to be a cop anymore Who is gonna be fired up to be a cop right now?
00:11:08.000Who's gonna think you know what when I grow up?
00:11:11.000I want to be hated by entire you know by a massive portion of the country I want to be viewed as someone that's a that kills innocent people The recruiting in cop for police is gonna go down so hard.
00:11:25.000It's gonna be ridiculous It's gonna be ridiculous and then who are you getting there?
00:11:28.000You're gonna get people that are Worst level people worst level humans are gonna show up to be cops so the training piece though They should do very, very scenario-driven training, right?
00:11:43.000Where you come into a room, and this isn't like super expensive stuff either.
00:12:18.000It's just like jujitsu in the fact that What makes jujitsu good?
00:12:22.000What makes jujitsu good is we can go hard against each other over and over again and Not really get hurt not really get killed so you get really good at it That's what you need to do in training for police You need to go through these tough scenarios over and over again because you do get better at it You do get better at it you become You learn how to mentally detach and not get emotional and realize that there's other things that are happening when you see the George Floyd case A couple of the other cops too,
00:12:51.000I think two of the other guys were complete rookies, right?
00:12:53.000They had been on the force for a very short period of time.
00:12:56.000No one in that group of four, obviously you got the killer himself.
00:13:01.000He's actually conducting the act, but all the other guys are not paying attention.
00:13:13.000Whereas if someone would have showed up on the scene or one of those guys had been through some good training in their life, they would have said, What's happening here?
00:13:22.000Hold on my partner over there has been on this guy for two minutes.
00:13:25.000He's not moving anymore I'm gonna walk over and say hey man, let me take over.
00:13:29.000I got this deep go over there decompress This takes training you have to train people and I got I saw this over and over again in the SEAL teams training guys I You get a young kid that's coming through training for the first time and they go into a room and they're getting shot with simunition bullets or there's someone yelling and screaming or that we put we put Arabic women coming walking out of rooms We'd have people get blown up with wounds.
00:13:51.000We would do this to them over and over again.
00:13:54.000So they realize okay I just got to relax.
00:13:58.000I got to detach from this situation so I can process what's happening and I can make a good decision because as I said earlier No one is making a good decision when they're panicked when they're freaked out when they're scared as a jujitsu guy When someone puts hands on you,
00:14:17.000I know what to do here If you don't know jujitsu if you've never had someone grab you before or you haven't had someone grab you in 17 months or 14 months no one's laid hands on you because you got a badge and a gun so people when you tell them to do something 95% of the time they go okay Yeah, I don't want to get in trouble,
00:14:33.000but then somebody grabs you you're instantly your your emotions are spiked your adrenaline spiked and The only way to overcome that is through consistent training That happens on a regular basis.
00:14:46.000You can't just train somebody one time.
00:15:18.000Whether you're doing a ride-along, whether you're going into any situation where you're thinking you could be killed, and even if it's just a remote chance, but you're doing that all the time.
00:15:48.000And a lot of those, that's not including, you know, like a car accident or COVID. There's been a bunch of died of COVID. But just people that have been engaged with bad guys and they got killed.
00:16:02.000When another cop gets killed, you're thinking that could be you.
00:16:04.000So that's your mindset, and that mindset builds, and that mindset builds, and you're working 10-hour days, and you're working 12-hour days, and there's no training, and there's no breaks.
00:16:27.000And from a, from a, like an entire Systemic way of training and recruiting and and keeping police Ready to do their job Whatever that job entails because let's face it most of the time that a job entails Well,
00:16:47.000I guess most of the time it entails hey, I'm gonna go have a bad I'm about to go have a bad relationship with another human being That's what's about to happen right whether I'm pulling you over Whether I'm I've been called to your house because you were yelling and screaming and people heard your wife screaming or whatever That's what's happening.
00:17:17.000And then they have to also be trained for, hey, this is a bad guy that's going to, this is the guy that you just talked about at a gas station with a weapon that wants to kill a bunch of people.
00:17:27.000You've got to be prepared for that whole spectrum as a police officer.
00:17:30.000And yet we send them to a three month long police academy, and then we send them out in the street, and that's what they do.
00:17:40.000It seems to me that they need to be vetted to Much better than they are now just like the seals like you can't get through buds unless you are a superior human being You have to be able to tolerate a bunch of shit that most people are gonna fall apart during and This is this seems to me.
00:17:58.000There's a great way to weed out people that just don't have it Yeah, there's Well, one thing that's interesting, just from a physical perspective, most police departments don't even have a minimum physical requirement to continue to be on the force.
00:18:17.000You have to be at a certain level to graduate from the academies, but oftentimes there's no standard beyond that.
00:18:22.000Yeah, I've seen cops before that were like, this is hilarious.
00:18:26.000Like, what is going to stop someone from closing the distance on you?
00:18:41.000And you only get really comfortable through training a lot.
00:18:45.000And yet, we put these people in these horrible positions over and over and over again, and we don't give them the proper training.
00:18:52.000And now there's these politicians that because of the current social climate, they're encouraged to want to defund the police.
00:19:00.000That's a great way for them to get brownie points from their constituents.
00:19:05.000The people want the police defunded, which is the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life.
00:19:11.000It's so crazy that this is actually gaining steam to the point where in Minneapolis, because they're trying to quiet down the mob, they've actually gone ahead and done it.
00:19:20.000What the fuck is Minneapolis gonna look like in a year from now?
00:19:49.000The other thing that, you know, you're talking about this brownie points for the politicians and there's brownie points and there's people trying to create sides.
00:20:00.000It's my side versus your side and that's a completely political thing, right?
00:20:04.000And all that does is increase the divide between the police and the civilians.
00:20:12.000And this reminds me a lot of Of a counterinsurgency, right?
00:20:18.000So, counterinsurgency, the insurgents are, you know, bad guys inside of a country.
00:20:26.000So, what you have to do is you actually have to go out and build relationships with the good people inside that country so that the good people inside that country can help you get rid of the bad people.
00:20:39.000What happens if you go out, and so this is Ramadi, Iraq.
00:21:02.000They have the same goal as a normal family.
00:21:04.000They're just a normal bunch of people.
00:21:06.000And inside that group of people, there's a bunch of bad people.
00:21:09.000These are insurgents some of our foreign fighters some of them are foreign regime elements from Saddam, but they're bad and they want to create chaos and mayhem so Americans we go in there if we go in there super heavy-handed and while I go to capture or kill one bad guy I Kill or maim a couple of those normal civilians what happens?
00:21:33.000Well, a couple of those normal civilians family go, wait, you guys aren't good.
00:21:46.000And each time that we do this, we're creating more animosity from the local populace, who, by the way, like I said, they're just good, normal people.
00:21:55.000So what we had to do is really focus on going out and building relationships with the local populace.
00:22:05.000And one of the things, this happened after I left, but you remember the surge that took place and they sent a bunch more troops over there.
00:22:12.000Part of the reason that they sent that surge and part of the reason that that was allowed to happen was because the Battle of Ramadi, where I fought, went very well.
00:22:20.000And since it went well, people said, well, maybe we can pull this off.
00:22:25.000And one of the directives that General Petraeus gave He said there can be no more drive-by counterinsurgency and what he meant that by that was when you go to a neighborhood You can't just drive through the neighborhood in your Humvee in your bulletproof Humvee with your windows up drive through show of force and then leave you That doesn't work.
00:22:47.000What you have to do is stop your vehicles.
00:22:53.000You have to ask them if they need anything.
00:22:54.000You have to build relationships with the local populace, the good local populace that just wants those insurgents out of there.
00:23:02.000And that's what I don't see happening and the more we Increase this divide between the police and the civilians The worse that's gonna get and so the police have to start doing a better job of outreach of hey Well, you know I asked you if you did a ride-along They should be offering ride-alongs all the time till the total local kids 17 year old kids 15 year old kids.
00:23:25.000Hey come and see what my job is like come and help me out That 15-year-old kid, he knows who the bad actors are.
00:24:09.000They're they're wrapped up in it and And that's another part, you know, I talked about recruiting who you recruiting recruit those kids Recruit those kids, but you have to build a relationship with them before you can add before anyone's gonna go into the police and look the I think it's the LA Police Department,
00:24:28.000if you look at the LA Police Department, compared to the racial makeup of LA, they're pretty equivalent, and they're pretty equivalent on purpose.
00:24:38.000So you gotta get that, you gotta continue to build those relationships so that we talk to one another.
00:24:45.000You know, we actually communicate with each other.
00:24:48.000Because anytime, you know, I'm allowed to sit over here in my area, and you're sitting over there in your area, We're building animosity.
00:24:55.000We build that kind of animosity between each other and now the littlest thing the littlest thing I mean there was a woman that was killed in Minneapolis like two three years ago.
00:25:07.000Yes female like a yoga instructor Called the police the police called the police to report a disturbance police showed up and There's no video no footage.
00:25:17.000She gets killed by the cops She gets killed by the cops It's insane that these things happen.
00:25:59.000So you think in a police force of a thousand people or whatever size your police force is, you're gonna have some people that are Steady, mentally stable, they can deal with it.
00:26:08.000They can be in an officer-involved shooting today, and tomorrow they can go back to their job and be perfectly fine.
00:26:14.000There's other people, they can never work again after they're in an officer-involved shooting.
00:26:17.000What kind of investment are we making into this psychological health of police?
00:26:24.000And look, I hope it doesn't sound like I'm sitting here Just putting it all on the police because everyone is playing a role in this and one of the things that you need to look at as well is how to get arrested, right?
00:26:40.000There should be a public service course on how you should get arrested This is what you should do if the cops are pulling you over if the cops ask you if the cops approach you about something Here's what you should think one of the things you should think is okay This cop may not be bad.
00:26:57.000This cop may be looking out for my welfare right now.
00:27:38.000The police should be putting out, hey, if you interact with the police, we hate to have to say this, but since our police sometimes are in bad situations, here's some things we recommend and we highly suggest, and we beg.
00:28:54.000We're going, oh, who the hell lets this guy continue to police?
00:28:57.000And by the way, interestingly enough, if you talk to internal affairs at police departments, the vast majority of the complaints that they get about police are from police.
00:29:34.000I don't see a way if we don't talk to each other that that's where there's no solution Because you know look for every 10 viral video that you see of a of a cop hitting somebody with a baton or a Rioter throwing something through a window for every 10 of those viral videos.
00:29:52.000There's another viral video that has You know the guy with the free hugs t-shirt on that's out talking to the cops and saying hey You know I I get it and they're communicating with each other and talking and when you communicate with people It's just like a hostage rescue basic technique you want to humanize you want to humanize instead of dehumanize And right now,
00:30:13.000we're just dehumanizing each other completely.
00:30:16.000And that's what scares me more than anything else, is if we can't talk to each other.
00:30:21.000Because, look, you take the most hardened soldier in war, some badass soldier that's done four deployments, six deployments, whatever, and you put them into a room with a kid and a mom, an Iraqi kid and a mom, or an Afghan kid and a mom,
00:30:36.000and you put them in that room and say, hey, sit here for 15 minutes and find out what they're about.
00:30:48.000You take a hardened jihadist and you say, hey, talk to this guy over here about what he's trying to do inside your country.
00:30:54.000Well, just just just talk to him when you open up the communications and are you gonna get some extremists on both ends?
00:31:00.000Yes, you will so maybe I shouldn't have said the most hardened Soldier and the most hardened because you know what the most hardened soldier becomes a killer Becomes a killer that that happens happens all the time.
00:31:12.000You know, I I I shouldn't say it happens all the time.
00:34:59.000Hey suspicious person running through the neighborhood.
00:35:01.000They roll up on the scene They start a couple a few cops are now searching for this guy and they see a building with an open door They go okay, let's that maybe he's in there.
00:35:14.000Let's go clear this building with an open door They go in this building with an open door their shots fired one of the cops killed one of the other cops so just Friendly fire, death.
00:35:28.000That right there, if you take that and you just extrapolate that over how hard it is to be a police officer, that you can be going into a building and you shoot one of your friends because you think they're bad.
00:37:18.000It's also that the cop is just a person who has this extraordinary power and extraordinary responsibility, too.
00:37:27.000What's terrifying to me is that when I'm looking at this idea to defund the police, and then I'm thinking, what do these neighborhoods look like if you wind up doing that?
00:37:38.000And then how do you get back out of that?
00:38:08.000Like, you could get a department that was so completely and utterly corrupt that you said, you know what, we're getting rid of all of them.
00:38:16.000Great documentary, but one of the things it talks about is the corruption during the cocaine era of the 80s, where the entire graduating police force, from the police academy, the entire graduating year, everyone was either murdered or went to jail for corruption.
00:39:00.000Because you can take a bunch of knuckleheads and you give them a good leader and they'll do fine.
00:39:06.000So it always comes down to the leadership.
00:39:09.000Sometimes they'll replace a leader, but if the and usually when they replace leader You'll watch the platoon will turn around almost instantly because someone steps in and says all right Here's what we're doing.
00:39:19.000Here's how we're doing it And they they make that change, but sometimes you have just Like a bad platoon and they say you know what you guys are done It seems incredibly difficult to be a good leader one of them one of the more interesting things about what you're doing with your platform whether it's your podcast or the Instagram videos you put out you're showing what good leadership is and There's not a lot of people when you look at if you get a thousand people
00:39:49.000How many of those people are going to be a real good leader?
00:39:53.000Well, this is what's this is what has become my career after the SEAL teams Because I got very very lucky in the SEAL teams very very lucky first of all my whole career was just luck I was the luckiest guy ever in the SEAL teams and I happen to be in the right places at the right times and I got some great experience and In some very tough situations and then the last thing that I did in the SEAL teams for almost the last three years I was in was I ran the training the Tactical training not the training
00:40:23.000where guys carry boats on their head and carry logs around but I didn't do that I didn't I went through it, but I didn't run that training I ran the training where Everything I was talking about you're running scenarios.
00:40:33.000You're putting people in bad situations.
00:40:34.000You're using simunition You're doing all these things so I got to see over and over again Leaders get put into pressure situations and how their leaders responded in that how the team responds to that leader and what these different things wash out how they wash out and what's interesting is and what I really realized when I was in that position is that their Leadership is a skill and you can get better at it now just like fighting just like jujitsu There's
00:41:05.000certain people that have a natural propensity to be good at you got some let's say someone's really strong, right?
00:41:13.000They're gonna have a little advantage Let's say someone has they're big right these things are advantages in fighting Leadership it's the same thing.
00:41:20.000Let's say someone is super articulate.
00:41:23.000That's helpful Let's say someone doesn't have a bad temper.
00:41:27.000That's very helpful, but everyone is at a different level Well, just like you can take a bunch of different sized and shaped and athletic ability people and you can make them better at fighting You can take a bunch of people with different levels of leadership characteristics and you can improve them and then there are actual Moves there's actual moves that you can do as a leader that are just like a jiu-jitsu move Oh Joe comes to me and he's yelling and screaming at me that he didn't get the I didn't give
00:41:57.000him two extra people to go on his job Instead of me going hey Joe shut up.
00:42:01.000You don't know what you're talking about instead.
00:42:05.000I didn't know you needed that many people.
00:42:07.000What do you what do you need them for?
00:42:08.000So I show a little sense of urgency I kind of reflect what your emotions are so I'm not just Creating a fight between you and me because if you and I are fighting you and I are not finding a solution So I'm gonna reflect a little bit of your emotion and then I'm gonna diminish it a little bit so you and I can have a real conversation so there's moves that you can do and As a leader that function like a jiu-jitsu move and they're very very powerful and the more of them you learn the better off you'll be and You need to practice
00:42:39.000You won't be good at them out of the gate It's gonna take some just like if I showed you an arm lock and you never done jiu-jitsu before You're not gonna be able to just get on the mat and do it to somebody you're gonna have to try it a couple times You have to learn little nuances to the move so there are ways that leaders can get better and yes, there's absolutely Natural leadership qualities that make people just a natural better leader But they even those people can improve so your question of out of a thousand people how many?
00:43:05.000Really good leaders there are well you have to ask Okay, you just talking about how many people are just naturally born great leaders You're probably your suspicion is correct.
00:43:15.000It's not a huge amount But how many of those leaders can you improve?
00:43:20.000Exponentially in their ability to lead and that's what you don't have a company echelon front That's what we do all the time is we go and work with companies.
00:43:27.000We work with leaders That is exactly what we do and we take Companies of I mean we work with companies that have 150,000 employees and you start getting everyone all the all the leaders aligned and getting the frontline troops understanding where the where the leadership is and what they're thinking and So you can become a much much better leader over time now How much of this do we see in the civilian sector how much even more directly how much of this do we see in the political world
00:43:57.000the answer is An unbelievably small amount.
00:44:03.000I mean, it's a ridiculously small amount.
00:44:10.000First of all, who at this point In the world thinks that that sounds like a great job, right?
00:44:17.000Hey, I'm gonna go get attacked from all sides.
00:44:20.000I'm gonna have my personal life picked apart I'm gonna get you know make I'm gonna work really hard and really not I'm gonna pay cap on how much money I make there's all kinds of reasons why becoming a politician is Doesn't look like the best job for most people that would look and say,
00:44:35.000hey, would I rather be the CEO of a company and make a ton of money and create a huge product and leave a big impact and influence thousands of people that work at my company in a positive way?
00:44:44.000Or would I rather go and get ridiculed and get broke down and have to try and get my job again in four years or two years or whatever the case may be?
00:46:22.000And he has more bucks in his pocket than that now.
00:46:26.000So, and most important, I think he's just a popular guy.
00:46:31.000You know, he would get up and when the country's going through hard times, you know, I was talking to a friend on the way up here and They were saying, hey, you know, people want leadership and they're looking for it and they're not hearing it.
00:46:48.000And a lot of times people don't even recognize the fact that they don't have leadership.
00:47:02.000SEAL platoon raids a house, there's some explosions, there's some gunfire, and no one's really sure where it's coming from, and no one's really sure what to do.
00:47:10.000Now that individual, a lot of the individuals in that platoon are just kind of holding on security.
00:49:12.000And maybe if I've got to make a little adjustment, I say, hey, make this little adjustment here, or maybe use this weapon over here, or whatever.
00:49:17.000I make little tiny adjustments, but it's still your plan.
00:49:20.000And from a leadership perspective, that means you and your team are totally bought into the plan.
00:50:04.000That sounds fantastic, but what if you're a Republican and they're Democrats and then you get on the ground and you have a mayor that's non-compliant, you have a governor that disagrees with your strategy.
00:50:15.000They don't want you there in the first place.
00:50:31.000Because if you're telling me you want to defund the police because you think that this police department is completely and utterly corrupt, okay, let's explore that.
00:50:57.000So even right now, like when you threaten me right now, right now, you're like, hey, what if I tell you I want to defund the police and I tell you I don't want the cops and you tell me all those things as a good leader, you know what I'm gonna say?
00:51:24.000Because as we start peeling back the layers, even the most ardent anti-police person, you're going to get to a point where you say, okay, when one of your constituents' house is being broken into, Who are they going to call?
00:51:40.000What mechanism are we going to put in place for security?
00:51:43.000How are we going to keep people safe from crime?
00:51:47.000And then they've got to answer that question.
00:51:48.000And maybe they come up with a good answer.
00:51:58.000There's a saying from Patton, leader on the front line is always right.
00:52:04.000The leader on the front line is always right.
00:52:07.000So I've always tried to embrace that theory, not just from a leadership perspective, but even from a human perspective.
00:52:13.000You know, when you want to tell me something that I don't know about, I'm going to listen to you.
00:52:18.000I'm actually really going to listen to you.
00:52:21.000I'm going to try and ask myself, well, Let's see, Joe lives in this city and Joe's here with this community and Joe is telling me right now that we should have no police here.
00:53:04.000I think, yeah, well, I really hope it doesn't get to that point.
00:53:09.000What you're saying all makes fantastic sense, but the problem is everybody is so partisan.
00:53:13.000It's so difficult to get people to work together, and people are so, they have so much invested in keeping this party divided by these party lines.
00:53:24.000Keeping the country divided by the right and the left.
00:53:40.000It's like, you know, here, I'll drop dime on myself.
00:53:44.000I'm a big, like when I was a kid in the SEAL teams, I was an instigator.
00:53:48.000If I could talk smack to two different people and let them start to get escalating like they wanted to fight, I would do that all day long.
00:53:56.000Especially once I started training people with Jiu-Jitsu.
00:53:58.000You know, I'd be the guy that was saying, oh, he thinks he could take you now.
00:54:01.000Because he trained for two weeks, you haven't been here.
00:54:03.000And he'd be like, what are you, he said that?
00:54:05.000You know, I would do that all day long.
00:55:10.000Nancy Pelosi on this thing, you must be, you know, a communist.
00:55:14.000You know, either way, but that's the way, that's where we're at.
00:55:18.000That's why, unfortunately, well, fortunately, unfortunately, but if The Rock was going to run, I think he would have to run as an independent.
00:55:56.000Yeah, well there's a whole like money thing that happens, right?
00:55:59.000There's a whole money thing where if you're not a Republican or Democrat You're not going to get those big coffers full of money to put paid advertising out and get people in the streets to vote for you Yeah, you don't have the machine behind you.
00:56:11.000You know the DNC behind you or the Republican Party Yeah, it's um, it's a real weird situation we find ourselves in with no clear path to sanity There's no clear path to sanity if we don't talk to each other and right now we're not Yeah,
00:56:29.000we're not I've seen a you know the people are so Just angry and just angry when you talk to him about this stuff Just anger comes out.
00:57:53.000But for most people running for president alone, just the grueling, just the schedule that's involved, and traveling, and doing all these speeches, and It just breaks them down.
00:58:06.000I mean, one of the reasons why Hillary lost was she just wasn't willing to travel as much.
00:58:10.000There was all these different events that she was supposed to go to.
00:58:44.000That you're looking at this group of, whatever, we've got 350 million people, 320 million people in America, and this is who you end up with?
00:58:50.000Yeah, I mean, fucking anybody but Biden.
00:59:38.000If we had a powerful gay leader, I think it'd be great for the country.
00:59:43.000One of the things about Obama being in office, besides the fact that he's very articulate and educated and just a well-spoken statesman, is that it's like, hey, look, we're making progress.
01:02:43.000They took that for me and to come back here and and now see this this this country being ripped apart It's that's the most horrible thing for me.
01:02:57.000This is something that gets discussed a lot by guys in teams and By different guys in the military period that when you've served overseas with with these guys that racism becomes the the least The least considered thing.
01:03:16.000It's your brothers because you're literally the consequences of your actions the consequences of your day-to-day existence is so so dire life and death It's the the most drastic consequences that we are aware of there's nothing you're losing your life Or you're not or they save you or they don't your brothers you're all together and But in this world,
01:03:40.000the consequences are less grave, and the requirements of people are less extreme.
01:03:52.000You're not as vulnerable in that sense.
01:03:56.000And because of that, I think people are more outraged, and they're finding more reasons why we're separate, more reasons to divide us, more reasons why they're different from us, whether it's because of ideology or skin color.
01:04:11.000You know, Sam Harris has a podcast where he's discussing all the different things, and he brings up one really great point, a podcast that's out now.
01:04:18.000He said, could you imagine a world where we think of color the same way we think of hair color?
01:04:26.000The color of people's skin is the same way.
01:04:28.000Could you imagine a world where I don't trust redheads?
01:04:31.000Those people with dark brown hair are fucking creepy to me.
01:04:35.000All the people in my neighborhood that are blonde, they're all shady.
01:05:26.000And so, for me, this is like super regressive to be going through this, to watch the country go through this and think, how did...
01:05:34.000Wasn't I just ten years ago like overseas with a bunch of guys and we didn't care about any of this didn't didn't didn't enter into our minds We're not looking at it all the time and I guess part of it is because You got a beer you're in a fight you're in a struggle and and right now let's face it in America There's not a lot of struggling happening.
01:05:57.000Well, we're kind of making our own struggle right now.
01:06:00.000And I think one of the things you've talked about that's very important is that a lot of this divide is because of this really shitty way of communicating, whether it's through social media or whether it's through reading stories or watching videos.
01:06:13.000It's a terrible way to not just get in for information, but it's a terrible way to interact with people.
01:06:18.000The way to interact with people is the way you and I are doing it right now.
01:06:22.000And I think the vast majority of problems would be solved amongst reasonable people if they just talked through.
01:06:30.000They just talked and tried to figure out, you know, hey man, I didn't like that you did this.
01:06:35.000Well, alright, well, I was thinking when I did this, you're right, here's why I did it, and this is what I was thinking, and I was wrong because of that.
01:06:43.000And if people could just say that, and people could accept that, and people could shake hands or hug it out, Rather than have a fucking Twitter beef that leads to a gunfight.
01:06:53.000I mean literally that's the way we exchange information with each other back and forth through social media is the absolute worst way people can talk.
01:07:33.000We evolved to communicate with social cues and to look at each other and be around each other.
01:07:39.000You could say something to a person and you're both laughing or you see it written down the same way and you're like, that guy's a fucking asshole.
01:07:51.000Even from a leadership perspective, we'll talk about this a lot with, hey, I'll send you an email that says, hey, Joe, can you get this project done next week?
01:08:12.000And I'm looking at you and kind of give me a blank stare, and I explain it to you a little bit more, and all of a sudden it turns into a perfectly good conversation.
01:08:17.000But when I send you that email, or in this case, Tweet right then you you hate me.
01:08:23.000Yeah, it's like we got management to do right now you gotta When you want something out of someone or you want you want some things to get done You got to manage that person's personality and mood and you got to manage the relationship that you have with each other and you have to be Proactive you have to you'd have to call them.
01:09:04.000The world, through Zoom right now, so, we're doing a lot of Zoom meetings, so my company, Eslon Front, Just the video alone increases your ability to communicate, right?
01:09:16.000It doesn't get all the way there, but just being able to look at someone and have a conversation with them, as opposed to either just A, hearing them on the phone, or absolutely.
01:09:24.000So that idea of, hey, I'm actually going to sit down and talk to you.
01:09:38.000How you doing talking to him and then all of a sudden in three days we were doing everything online Everything hey to meet me on this zoom call and you can get there you can get 97% Effectiveness just by looking at someone and talking to him you know like I said There's a little percentage that you're still not gonna get but if you think you're gonna communicate effectively through social media tweets You're just freaking wrong.
01:10:00.000Yeah, that's one step below email, right?
01:10:02.000Social media tweets is one step below email.
01:10:23.000It's weaponized by social media tweets and Yeah, because by the way, when you send me a tweet to be an asshole to me, I actually just retweet that and tell everyone what an asshole you are.
01:11:03.000The idea of coming to work in a place, the idea of, hey, I'm going to show up and work at a place with other people, that is such a huge part of getting back to where we need to be.
01:11:16.000When you pull everyone out of work, and even worse, even just beyond COVID, You know, what happens?
01:11:26.000We've moved all manufacturing overseas, right?
01:11:28.000So all those people that used to go and work in the same place every day, that used to show up and have a common mission and a common goal, they don't have that anymore.
01:11:36.000Much of the middle class doesn't have that anymore.
01:11:40.000They used to have it, they don't have it anymore.
01:11:43.000And that's, interestingly, China's middle class is growing right now.
01:12:49.000But now you realize like, oh, well with COVID, You know, we were cut off from even getting goods and supplies from other countries, and then we were getting so much of our medical supplies from China, and then we're getting so much of our vaccines and medicine, all these different things manufactured by China.
01:13:05.000You're like, hey, why don't we do that here?
01:13:06.000Well, we used to, but it was cheaper by like a dollar a thing to send it over there.
01:13:13.000And people are realizing now there's a great benefit to making things here in America.
01:13:18.000And it's not just this idea of national pride.
01:13:22.000National Pride's great, but also like you don't you don't have to go anywhere to get things and you keep jobs here Yeah, and I think Kanye West is looking to build same same thing as we're doing he wants to manufacture stuff in America Why because he knows when you have a bunch of underprivileged kids the best thing you can provide a bunch of underprivileged kids is Jobs Jobs that they can entry-level jobs.
01:13:48.000I know when I was a kid It was almost like, hey, if you're not careful, you're gonna end up working in the factory, right?
01:13:56.000That's what's gonna, you know, you can end up working in a factory.
01:14:19.000A year two years three years from losing the knowledge of how to actually do that and luckily my buddy Pete has started you know Grabbing people that know how to do it and passing that information down to the next generation so we can actually be a self-sufficient country and we can bring back those jobs of people that look that's a that's a Proud way to make a living these are craftsmen like you said these are crafts men and crafts women by the way our factory is
01:14:49.000mostly filled with women and And they're out there.
01:15:28.000If you started from scratch, like if I started from scratch, I don't know shit about how to make a boot.
01:15:34.000There's a long learning curve of figuring out how to make an excellent boot that fits right, is well made and durable, like those boots that you guys sell.
01:15:55.000That knowledge because that's not that's not that's not our generation that learned that right we're we're pulling that information from the old shoe dogs up in Maine that are 60 years old 70 years almost you know out of the workforce having to bring them back into the workforce to to Educate the younger generation on how to actually do this.
01:16:16.000We got a kid up there name is Cameron Oh, he's 22. He's a young kid.
01:16:21.000And he has learned now how to weave the material for our geese.
01:16:26.000So he's the guy that knows how to weave material.
01:16:37.000Yeah, we've got looms up there, but we had to get the knowledge, right, from the old timers that said, okay, let me show you how to do this.
01:17:41.000They're gonna fall into, oh, maybe I'll sell drugs, maybe I'll commit robberies, whatever I'm gonna do, but they're not doing it by choice in many cases, or if they're doing it by choice, it's because they don't see any other choices to even make.
01:17:53.000So we've let our manufacturing go away, and now we've got...
01:17:58.000Voids we've got voids where people don't have an ability to make an income and that's That's that's that's just a complete loss of pride Right if you don't have the ability to earn money to take care of yourself to take care of your family If you don't have that ability,
01:19:12.000Someone made some decisions to save a little bit of money and make a little bit of money and completely short-sighted, didn't look at the economy as a whole, didn't look at the nation from a position of a patriot, someone who looks at the country as a whole.
01:20:17.000It's good that people are opening their eyes, though.
01:20:19.000It's good that people are realizing because of the pandemic and because of the fact that all goods and services that were being imported on a daily basis were shut down.
01:20:27.000And also people are terrified of getting things over there.
01:20:30.000What are you going to spray everything down?
01:21:09.000Then I did Washington, D.C. Then I did New York City, Seattle, San Francisco, and L.A. Every event shook hands and bro-hugged between 1,000 and 2,000 people.
01:21:24.000That's what I did at the end of January.
01:21:26.000I went to the absolute ground zero locations for COVID and just bro-hugged and talked to a bunch of people and shook hands and just got after it.
01:21:55.000It wasn't real bad, but it was, you know, it was bad enough that, you know, I think I might have skipped, like...
01:22:01.000I'm just gonna stretch today cuz I really feel like crap for a workout type of thing so I didn't get I wasn't down hard I wasn't in and I didn't miss any I didn't miss anything but I felt bad and so I figured that was my that was my COVID experience my wife got sick my son got sick two daughters in college and my young daughter Didn't get sick at all.
01:22:18.000My 10-year-old daughter didn't get sick at all.
01:22:45.000I think it would be crazy if that travel schedule that I had sitting on all those airplanes from and to and from all those different airports in all those airports That's just that's just crazy.
01:23:00.000That was another you know, we're talking about egos The the the scary thing about the whole COVID unraveling was that The leadership wouldn't say, hey, you know what?
01:23:14.000I actually think I was wrong about this and we're moving in this direction now.
01:23:27.000That's a great point because that really was a failure of leadership because it was very clear at some point in time when they found out, when they did the large-scale antibodies test, particularly in California, and they were like, Jesus Christ, hundreds of thousands of people have been exposed to this.
01:23:42.000This is not what we thought, and the amount of people that are actually sick.
01:26:38.000So we start thinking about, hey, how would we make these things?
01:26:42.000And then a couple days later, the government, the government, comes out and says, masks don't do anything, don't wear masks, don't get masks.
01:26:49.000So I talked to Peter, I said, hey man, it looks like we don't need to do it, because it looks like it doesn't help at all.
01:26:55.000Five days later, they're like, everyone wear a mask at all times.
01:27:00.000And by the way, we're going to pass laws that require you to wear a mask.
01:27:26.000It's hard, the problem is people get shamed.
01:27:30.000And the World Health Organization came out and basically said the only reason you should be wearing a mask, what is the CDC? Fauci said US government held off promoting face masks because it knew shortages were so bad that even doctors couldn't get enough.
01:29:05.000Actually, we're getting incentivized to report deaths as COVID. Elon Musk on the podcast said if you got killed by a shark, but you were COVID positive, they were listed as a COVID death.
01:29:15.000Obviously, he was being facetious, but not entirely, because there's a lot of people with leukemia that also had COVID listed as a COVID death.
01:29:23.000Obesity, heart attacks listed as a COVID death because they tested positive for COVID. Cancer.
01:29:36.000You know, when you hear those statistics, then you see these things that they're saying, and just the lack of trust that you end up with the government.
01:29:49.000There's no one that's always thinking the government has always given the straight skinny.
01:29:52.000And it goes back to this click-baity bullshit.
01:29:54.000My wife pointed out this story yesterday where she's reading about this kid that died, 17-year-old kid, perfectly healthy, it says.
01:30:02.000She reads into the article, type 1 diabetes!
01:30:06.000Type 1 diabetes is not perfectly healthy.
01:30:09.000That's really sick and fucking dangerous and you have to take insulin to stay alive.
01:30:13.000Yeah, and think you can get complications from, like, oh, everyone's living type 1 diabetes, diabetics can live real normally, and then they can have an instance that causes them to die.
01:30:22.000Yeah, they can have their foot removed.
01:30:24.000Yeah, there's all sorts of shit that goes wrong when you have diabetes.
01:30:27.000Your immune system is severely compromised.
01:30:30.000But it's like, our information, it's not pure.
01:31:30.000I don't know exactly how this is going to play out.
01:31:32.000These are some contingencies that I'm preparing for.
01:31:35.000That is so much more acceptable from the troops than when you try and pretend like you know what you're talking about and it turns out you're wrong.
01:32:45.000They were allocating them along with other types of hand sanitizer and a bunch of different things they were selling specifically to them first and first responders.
01:40:23.000And this goes back to the idea of as a leader, Taking the information from the frontline troops and saying how you tell me what's a good way to run this?
01:40:34.000You tell me you tell me what's a good way to run this and let's see if we can figure out a solution to this problem.
01:40:38.000Well you would really want to talk to jiu-jitsu gym owners and my suggestion I've never run a jiu-jitsu gym.
01:40:45.000My suggestion would be have people fill out a waiver or So they waive their rights, have people fill out a form that says, I have not tested positive.
01:41:16.000You know, are you mad that people have steak and you can't afford a steak?
01:41:19.000Well, you know, there's people, there are different stages of life, you know, in this game called society and capitalism and you start off at square A, you know, everybody starts at a different spot, granted, but I started at the bottom and you figure out a way to get a fucking test!
01:41:37.000And if you're in a spot right now in your life where you can't have a test, well, definitely don't go and expose yourself until we know what the fuck it is.
01:41:43.000But don't get mad if people can afford tests, you crazy fucks.
01:41:46.000And what we're at right now with Jiu Jitsu gyms is you should have a form that you fill out, just like when I was at a restaurant, I went to the Lonesome Dove restaurant, shout out to them, in Austin, Texas.
01:43:00.000It's like there's health department guidelines.
01:43:04.000They're trying to open up, and they don't want to get sued, and they don't want to get people mad.
01:43:08.000We're trying to protect everybody, but we don't know how to do it.
01:43:11.000And it doesn't matter what the science is.
01:43:13.000You could show them an article that shows that masks are bullshit, and they're still going to tell you, but you're still going to wear your mask.
01:43:18.000Because we're playing a little game here.
01:43:20.000We're playing a game called Keep People Safe.
01:43:22.000Nobody's saying a goddamn thing about take your vitamins, drink water, stay healthy, workout, get out in the sun.
01:46:04.000Hangs out with his wife's family in Vegas and drives back home that and so eight hours in the car just that day Then the next day he's got auditions day after that.
01:46:11.000He's got auditions then boom hits the wall and he's fucked He feels like shit.
01:46:15.000Yeah, and he felt like shit By the way his mom got it.
01:46:18.000She also tested positive beat it in a day How long was he down for he was down for a week?
01:46:24.000But he ran himself down, also vitamin D deficient.
01:46:54.000Most consecutive nights, because I was in the Navy, I was deploying, I was going on trips, and then when I retired, I was working with consulting all over the place.
01:47:56.000Victory MMA and Fitness in San Diego, California.
01:47:59.000You know so it's a big gym yeah, and you know every 2,000 members that means they're all interacting with you know three or four other people Outside of the gym if not five or ten people so and they're literally sweating each and mouth complete.
01:48:12.000Oh, yeah, that's another thing That's another indicator when I got sick my main training partner this guy Andy Andy Burke I trained with all the time he got sick and then his girlfriend got sick who's also a jiu-jitsu fighter MMA fighter she got sick too so Very likely.
01:48:36.000When you break down your body and your immune system gets...
01:48:39.000You know, when you're one of those guys that trains really hard, you do have a tendency to get little colds because your immune system gets tested.
01:50:44.000You're in the Olympics for wrestling, let's say, and you've got your whole entire life is on one day.
01:50:52.000If you get sick, anything bad happens that day, yeah, you're done.
01:50:57.000Yeah, those big moments like that are fucked.
01:50:59.000You're so stressed out too, so your immune system is super jacked.
01:51:03.000But I think there's a thing about peaking for a big event, whether it's a fight or the Olympics or something, versus maintaining consistent conditioning.
01:52:23.000Just eat it and run through a fucking wall.
01:52:27.000Yeah, it's the really weird thing about watching people go through camps through fight camps and you know I really I basically don't train fighters anymore like I used to just because I don't have time anymore But you would you would work so hard to make sure that on that night That they're there,
01:52:45.000And some people get in the cage and they do better than they would normally do.
01:52:50.000Some people get in the cage and they don't do as good.
01:52:53.000And you got, you know, Jeremy Stevens is a great example, because especially when he first came out and started training with me, and he's not with us anymore, but when he first started training with us, like, he was...
01:53:04.000White belt in jiu-jitsu, but man when he got in the cage he would just elevate man like mentally Psychologically elevate and he would perform way better in the cage and then I've had other fighters that you'd get like they would be kicking people's asses in training and they get in the cage and it's a down step and it's so hard to see that so hard is because sometimes those guys are very committed and they're working hard and They're doing great and they just get in there and it
01:56:05.000I mean, you can kind of tell he's drunk.
01:56:07.000And he gets in and starts training with these guys.
01:56:10.000And see if he can get to some actual training footage, because they were humiliated.
01:56:14.000I mean, he was ragdolling these dudes and beating the shit out of them and dropping them.
01:56:18.000It looks like nothing, but it's the problem, you know, he's a world-class kickboxer, and these guys just really have no idea how to handle his movement and the skills that he has.
01:56:37.000People don't think there's as much of a difference between like a black belt in jujitsu and what would be considered an equivalent, you know, world champion in Muay Thai.
01:57:01.000I go, people could do that to you standing.
01:57:03.000I go, you have to understand that the fight starts standing.
01:57:06.000It's not like you start, like it's not EBI rules where you start on a guy's back and you know, you have a really good chance of submitting him if you've got a great rear naked choke.
01:57:14.000This is you start 20 feet away from the guy and you're standing and you know, you have to close that distance and you're not a great wrestler either.
01:57:24.000Yeah, well, that's the key component, right?
01:58:23.000Because you can close the distance, and if you're going to punch me, you have to get close enough to make contact with me, which means I can grab ahold of you and get you down.
01:58:31.000That's why the early UFCs, it was like, oh, you're going to have to get close enough to either punch or kick me, and when you do that, I can grab ahold of you and get you to the ground.
01:58:37.000Also, the chaos factor, especially in a street fight, the chaos factor.
01:58:41.000It's like bodies are flying, there's bad timing, the clinches happen.
01:58:45.000It's not like every, you know, you'll watch the occasional street fight where a guy tees off on some drunk guy and, you know, lands the perfect punch and knocks him out cold.
01:58:58.000Wild shit misses and then someone clinches and then The worst thing in the world is to fight a grappler who's good at takedowns when you're on the concrete.
01:59:08.000That is the absolute worst thing in the world.
01:59:10.000You get suplexed on your head on the concrete.
01:59:12.000I mean, one of the worst things that could ever happen.
01:59:14.000You're basically getting hit in the head by the world.
02:00:33.000I think the whole thing with CTE right now, that's why I think the popularity of jiu-jitsu is going to continue because it's a large part of fighting.
02:02:30.000Teach those kids, hey, there's going to be problems, there's going to be bullies.
02:02:34.000If you can, you don't need to fight them.
02:02:38.000Somebody hit me up, you know, because I'm always telling people, train jiu-jitsu, train jiu-jitsu.
02:02:42.000Had somebody hit me up, you know, I've tried it, but I don't, I want to try it.
02:02:46.000I tried it a couple times, but I don't like to fight.
02:02:49.000And I'm like, hey, if you don't like to fight, you more than anyone else should learn jiu-jitsu.
02:02:56.000Because if you know jujitsu, your chances of having to fight will go down a lot.
02:03:00.000Just by the way you carry yourself, just by the way you present yourself, the chances of you having to fight go down a lot.
02:03:06.000Also, with jujitsu, you're involved in real-life struggles.
02:03:11.000The thing about karate sparring and light sparring is it's not the real chaos that comes with an actual fight, whereas jujitsu is full blast.
02:03:23.000Someone's trying to get you, so you get used to full blast.
02:04:54.000The horrible video of this guy involved with this lady and he's a cop and he's talking to this lady and she's non-compliant and he grabs her and he fucking brute strengths her to the ground and throws her on her stomach and then gets her in a rear naked choke and people are filming this and yelling.
02:05:47.000When I'm looking at the video, I'm like, I just think he just wants to throw his weight around, which is another thing you wouldn't do if you know how to fight.
02:05:53.000That's part of why a lot of people act like that is because they really don't know how to fight.
02:05:59.000And that's really, they really don't know how to do that to a grown man.
02:06:03.000So when they're doing it to someone who they can do it to because they're just bigger, they do it.
02:06:09.000They'll force them, they'll impose themselves, they'll be a bully.
02:06:12.000It's horrible to see, but you wouldn't see a black belt do that to somebody.
02:06:22.000I posted something a few months ago, but some bully thing had popped up, and I said, hey, if you want to stop bullying, You know, have kids train jujitsu Muay Thai wrestling boxing.
02:06:46.000Which people don't understand, people cannot comprehend What that means, and it's exactly what you just said.
02:06:51.000If somebody actually knows how to fight, and you've been humbled, and you've been beat down, and you've been choked, and you know what that feels like, and you know what it means, and you know how that feels, the chances of you, look, you could still be an asshole, but the chances of you becoming a bully are way less.
02:07:32.000And jujitsu teaches you and fighting teaches you that if you do that, if you allow yourself to get wrapped up in the stuff, you're gonna make bad decisions.
02:07:39.000I think also for kids, a lot of the reasons why they do horrible shit is because they have too much fucking energy.
02:08:24.000Those riots, he was like, those were...
02:08:27.000The people that kind of instigated and started and perpetuated those riots, those were real, like gangsters, like shot callers, were making those things happen.
02:08:37.000This one, these riots were, he was like, yeah, these are kids.
02:08:41.000These are kids that drove down from Riverside.
02:08:44.000These are kids that, you know, and sure, some of their attitudes was like, hey, there's been, you know, injustices against police.
02:08:52.000And then he said, of course, there's a criminal element as well that are legit, normal robbery crews that are saying, oh, cool, we got some good cover right now.
02:09:00.000Let's get in there and make some, you know, steal some stuff and we probably won't get caught.
02:10:33.000What is it about the ocean that you always post pictures of the sunrise in the ocean?
02:10:40.000I don't think there's you know going surfing just going just going in the ocean and plus my my life was kind of being in the SEAL teams was always we always Had that it was part of our life, you know part of our life was the ocean growing up in the ocean just There's some,
02:10:58.000I don't know, you know, I guess for me it's a huge like nature thing, right?
02:11:02.000You know, people, you should go outside.
02:11:05.000Go outside and go hike in a mountain, you know?
02:11:08.000Go to Montana and hike around, see what that feels like.
02:12:28.000You know people say well what makes the SEAL team so good in one of the major components is the ocean Because when you've got to do an operation that involves the water it just sucks It just everything about it sucks everything about it sucks You're getting in a you know,
02:12:43.000you're parachuting from a plane into the water.
02:12:46.000It's nighttime You got boat yours freakin parachute like drifting around you got to get your motor started.
02:12:53.000It's freezing cold Boats flip over then you got to drive that boat to the beach and you got to drive through the surf zone Your weapons are covered with sand you're freezing cold.
02:13:02.000It's just everything sucks everything sucks about it So when that's kind of your starting and by the way you haven't even conducted your operation yet You do you haven't even started the operation and you're freezing cold you're tired your radio got flooded out your your night vision goggles are freaking filled with sand everything sucks and And now you've got to conduct your operation.
02:13:21.000So in order to survive that way on a regular basis, that's one of the things that makes the SEAL teams good is we're used to this one additional component all the time that you always have to deal with.
02:16:04.000You didn't even you know you and that's just the worst feeling that's the feeling that really makes you sick and so Between that carrot and stick carrot being like I know this is gonna be good and stick me I know at the end of the day if I'm putting my head on the pillow and I was a bitch That doesn't feel good.
02:16:28.000It's also when you're a type of person that wants to achieve and so you're always trying to get things done.
02:16:33.000You're always trying to push yourself.
02:16:34.000When you fall short because of cowardice or because it is the worst feeling that or just just failure any kind of failure the reason why you would one of the reasons why I mean, at least I can speak for myself personally.
02:16:49.000I do things so hard is because I've felt that sting of failure.
02:16:54.000You need to know what that feels like, especially when you quit.
02:16:58.000You need to know what quit- Yeah, see?
02:17:51.000Well, you know, these last four minutes won't really make that big of a difference.
02:17:53.000Shift in perception and I always noticed that from listening to music when I run like There's something about listening to a great fucking song when a great song kicks on when you're running like if I'm running in Ted Nugent stranglehold comes on You know there's something about stranglehold because it also has like a double meaning,
02:18:37.000You gotta figure out how to do that all the time.
02:18:39.000Yeah, that always is horrible to see in a fight when a guy, either he loses a fight, and after he loses the fight, he's raging, he's all mad, but he was just gassed.
02:19:59.000I wish there wasn't this little thing in the back of my head going, hey, hey, you know, you're actually, you could be doing a lot more right now.
02:22:14.000And for me, like, the competition that I experienced, the only competition I had other than inside the gym, you know, training partners, is fighting, and that's all fast stuff.
02:22:25.000It's all, like, explosions and movement.
02:22:27.000So anytime where there's danger and anxiety and fear, your body's geared up to go quick and move quick.
02:23:16.000If they miss one, and then they try and shoot, usually I would just miss one and just keep shooting, like it didn't even happen, and maybe go back and get it, or you kind of have to go back and get it.
02:23:54.000I remember when I first started shooting rifles.
02:23:57.000Like, uh, that's what I would, I would experience that thing where you're anticipating the right, you know, 30, uh, uh, um, um, um, Win Mag, 300 Win Mag.
02:26:31.000And then when you're hanging out with a guy like Cam or a guy like Dudley and you hunt with them and you see them hunt, you go, oh, I get it.
02:27:09.000It's like you get the whole lifestyle thing from him.
02:27:13.000You get like this learning how the art of archery, which really is an art form.
02:27:19.000It's an art form just like martial arts are.
02:27:21.000Then this moment of keeping your shit together and the execution of a shot and then the big payoff when that does happen and Then the harvesting the animal carrying it out and then the meal that meal afterwards when you've had a successful hunting trip It's like goddamn when we were in camp in Utah and Dudley made that neck that neck roast with with jalapenos and the bell peppers and holy shit But it was also so good because you knew what went down.
02:28:26.000There's no fences, but it's private property.
02:28:28.000So there's not an overwhelming number of people.
02:28:30.000There's a lot of guys that they try to go into public land and Unless you're willing to hike in 20 miles, and there's a lot of guys that are willing now to hike in 20 miles because there's now this culture of these really fit backpack hunters like these Aaron Snyder type dudes who put these fucking heavy packs on and they just go.
02:28:50.000They're training for this moment all year round.
02:28:54.000Aaron has this crazy setup in his gym where he has this elevated treadmill, and then the treadmill on each side has an Olympic belt.
02:29:06.000And you lift the bar so you're holding weight and you're going up this elevated treadmill.
02:30:05.000Total rookie, you know, I'm still like a blue belt or maybe maybe I'm like getting ready to be a purple belt Maybe I might get my purple belt soon, but you know you go out with those guys They're fucking 10th degree black belts and it's like there's even though there's You know this this barrier for entry it is still possible It's still possible,
02:30:24.000but it's just like jujitsu It's like when you when you talk to that blue belt you like keep fucking going Yeah, and you can make it you can do this, you know speaking of which I I have to at least bring this up a little bit to clarify a little bit what I did to John Dudley on the jiu-jitsu mats.
02:33:19.000Wasn't like hey when you start to feel like you gotta you gotta tap out, right?
02:33:23.000He knew to tap out, but I kind of figured everyone knows how to tap out so I put the choke in on him, right?
02:33:27.000Well, he doesn't know what to do so he he's grabbing me and he's pulling he's squeezing me and So he's on the bottom, I'm mounted, I've got the Ezekiel choke in, and in order to defend himself in his own mind, he's squeezing me into him.
02:33:43.000Which the way I do my Ezekiel choke, it hurts, I mean it compresses the choke even more.
02:34:15.000And he only did it for a second, and then he taps out, and I was like, ah, you know, and I wasn't, I was just like, oh, you know, boom, and then he taps.
02:35:21.000The problem is when you get used to doing certain types of chokes and then you're doing it to someone who doesn't, especially that where you've got a fist in the neck.
02:35:45.000The other thing about people that have never done jujitsu, when they're doing it with someone who's a black belt, they probably feel like they can just kind of go crazy and you'll just absorb it and deal with it.
02:40:08.000We've been doing it since he won ADCC when Eddie beat Hoyler, when Dean won, when he beat Kakareko in the finals with what they now call 50-50, which he and I called Kakareko.
02:40:47.000And I did because I wasn't very tactically smart.
02:40:52.000I scrambled to a position and I tried to get a...
02:40:56.000As a matter of fact, I got a crucifix, because that was kind of one of my go-to moves, get a crucifix and I'd get a choke from there, when I should have taken the back and gotten points, and I didn't, and Roy Nelson, who is a great guy and he's a total stud, I got the crucifix position and he like powered out of bounds.
02:41:14.000And so then, and he beat me because he's a much better wrestler than me.
02:41:20.000Anyways, when he won that, we were doing this stuff.
02:41:25.000So, anyways, probably six months ago or three months ago, I was asking Dina, I said, hey Dina, are you starting to see things that you didn't know?
02:41:38.000When you're watching, because he watches, I said, are you starting to see jujitsu things that you didn't know, like footlock stuff?
02:41:45.000And he's like, yeah, about three or four months ago, I started seeing some things that I didn't think of.
02:41:50.000So that's how long it took people to get to and then start to develop their own stuff, which is pretty crazy.
02:41:57.000Well, it's fascinating that once the game moved into this sort of leg-lock heavy style that so many guys like Craig Jones and Gordon Ryan and this, you know, Gary Tonin, there's so many of those guys that you're seeing this game getting tighter and tighter with leg locks.
02:44:07.000And yeah, those guys, it's really cool to see those guys coming up.
02:44:11.000I mean, I shouldn't know why I'm kind of saying it coming up like I'm...
02:44:14.000But I'm watching this development come, which I was at kind of ground zero with Dean Lister.
02:44:21.000And the crazy thing is, Dean Lister...
02:44:26.000He has like a like a crazy savant mind where I would create one thing for every Whatever for every 20 things that Dean created It's probably like Eddie and I don't know Eddie as well as you do but Just the creative part of his brain is what the most powerful thing was yeah,
02:44:50.000and then once people saw it they're like okay now we can build upon this and Yeah, for Eddie, it's 100% the creative part of his brain.
02:44:55.000Also the fact that when I met Eddie, he hated lifting weights.
02:45:27.000And then he would find a way to do it.
02:45:28.000And, you know, he just developed all these, like, weird entries into things and these weird setups that people didn't see coming.
02:45:37.000And once he sort of improved upon these and then started expanding upon them and then developing that whole 10th planet system, I mean, really, it's an insanely creative system that's just developed based on his...
02:45:51.000Ability to just think outside the box.
02:45:54.000I had Jeff Glover at my training at my gym for a long time.
02:46:40.000Glover comes out and he like just he falls on his back flips inverted guard and starts like just going Insane just doing insane things and you know the rest of the matches are two guys you know playing patty cakes and looking for the takedown Glover comes out falls down freaking just doing all kinds of wild stuff and then submits the dude in 30 38 seconds and And my son looks at me and he goes,
02:48:23.000That's the thing that gets everybody is the goddamn neck.
02:48:27.000Because very few guys really strengthen their neck correctly either.
02:48:30.000I think the neck is one thing that you absolutely should strengthen.
02:48:33.000I think you can get away with not lifting weights and doing jiu-jitsu, but I don't think you can get away with not strengthening your neck for very long.
02:50:10.000It just doesn't seem like it would be a good thing to have.
02:50:13.000That's the thing that holds your head on.
02:50:15.000I can't wait for the future when your neck is all jacked up and you go in and they just put you in surgery for two hours and you come out and you got a metal spine.
02:50:41.000His lower back had been so smashed and suppressed that his, you know, that's one of the things that's why men, when they get older, they shrink, is your discs get squished to the point and they start touching.
02:50:55.000Do you think you can go too far with flexibility that it starts to injure you over the long term?
02:51:02.000Well, I don't think you can go too far with flexibility, but flexibility without strength, perhaps, because maybe that inflexibility, like maybe you'll get like some muscle damage, you know, when you're trying to push too far, that'll prevent you from getting disc damage.
02:54:24.000I'm going to figure out something to make it decompress and strengthen that area, and that's where the reverse hyper came from, which I think should be a staple in every gym.
02:54:32.000That reverse hyper machine for strengthening the lower back and then actively decompressing.