On this episode of the podcast, we have a special guest on the show, Ted Nugent. Ted is a retired police officer turned gun enthusiast and owner of a company called Vaulttec. We talk about guns, guns, and more guns. We also talk about Ted's new business venture, Vaulttec, and we talk about his favorite TV show, Steven Seagal's "Louisiana Accent" and much more! Thanks to Ted for being on the podcast and for being a part of the show! We hope you enjoy this episode and we hope you have a great rest of your week! Stay tuned for Part 2 of this episode coming soon! Peace, Blessings, Cheers, and God Bless! -Jon Sorrentino and the Crew! -Jon & the Crew Jon & the crew and God bless! Jon and the crew! God bless you guys! XOXO, Jon & The Crew! Timestamps: 1:00 - 2:30 - 3:15 - 4:00 5:20 - 6:20 7:30 8:15 9:40 - 11:00 | 12:30 | 13:40 | 14:40 15:20 | 16:15 | 17:00 // 16:00 / 16:10 | 18:30 // 19:40 // 21:20 // 22:00 & 23:00/ 25: 26:00 + 27:00 @ 28:00 Or 30:00 ? 33:00 35:00 = 32:00? 31:00 , 35: 36:00 .35 37:00 # 39:00% 34: 35 : 36 : 35 & 36:10 40:00 Is it a gun podcast? 35, 41:00 Do you think I m a gun person ? 35 + 36:15, 36, 37, 38: 39, 41, 39 45, 42, 40, 43, 44, 47, 45 44 47:00, 46, , 41 , etc. & so on
00:02:31.000So there are people, I just did a post where somebody was on a jet ski and he had all his valuables and contents in there because it floats.
00:03:25.000Yeah, because you're out there beating the drums and sounding the alarms.
00:03:29.000And all these people that are anti-Second Amendment people were a lot of these motherfuckers that were lined up in California trying to buy a gun last minute.
00:03:35.000Because as soon as the lockdown hit, people started getting really nervous.
00:04:02.000I think it's a really important conversation.
00:04:05.000I think you're the best at explaining it from a very rational perspective that people during the times before COVID, they didn't think that this was important.
00:04:18.000But you were always one of those guys where it was like, hey, what if shit goes down?
00:04:43.000And it's not much of an encumbrance on my life where it's like, okay, it's not worth the day-to-day of me carrying a firearm, but if I ever needed it, That's going to be the most important thing I have on me to protect that life.
00:04:56.000So it's a small price to pay for something that has such a huge upside if it ever happens.
00:05:02.000Yeah, you're a best case scenario, though.
00:05:37.000Once we move past that understanding of, so, you know, you have the best case scenario, which you pointed out was theoretically me, so to speak, and then you have the worst case scenario where you have, you know, criminals, you have crazy people, mass shooters, things of that nature.
00:05:49.000Once we get out of that realm, so let's talk about the reality because, you know, there's overlaps, right?
00:05:54.000So I usually ask people, well, what law are you going to come up with that's going to completely stop that?
00:06:20.000You can ban them from law-abiding citizens, and we'd have to deal with that as it comes.
00:06:24.000But at the end of the day, criminals are still going to get their hands on guns.
00:06:27.000And so what you have to understand and accept is, from a reality standpoint, if you know that, When all the barriers that are placed to prevent these things don't work, the only person that's going to be able to do anything about it is you.
00:06:42.000And you want the best thing possible at your disposal to contend against that.
00:07:07.000But for people who are just understanding it from a practical perspective, like, okay, from self-defense, if that's the only box you want to live in, that's perfectly fine with me.
00:07:18.000I just have a problem where people say things like, well, no one needs to have a firearm.
00:07:23.000But then you're perfectly aware of all the violence and everything else that goes on in this country.
00:07:28.000And you understand the limitations of the first responders that we have in place to be able to prevent it.
00:07:34.000And if you understand that, theoretically speaking, you're on your own.
00:08:45.000There's a website that shows all the shootings in Chicago.
00:08:48.000And it's Fucking bonkers like I mean just look look at what just happened Father's Day.
00:08:53.000I think it was like a hundred and two people shot.
00:08:55.000Yeah Fucking ridiculous fucking crazy and but here's his thing about that, too There's there's a consistency in a pattern behind these types of shootings It's not even like so usually when you deal with a problem The first thing you do is you try to look for a pattern to see if you can figure it figure out a pattern So you can try to solve it.
00:09:11.000Yeah, and you see okay What's the common denominator of all these things and then wise and you can figure out start to figure out why it happens, but Right.
00:11:25.000I wasn't getting Don Lemon money, but essentially what I was doing was I was a commentator and I was a host of two shows on their platform.
00:12:59.000I think if I've set out to commit some crime against someone and I go try to get a gun and I can't get a gun, I'm going to try to find another avenue by which to get that tool that I need to commit that crime.
00:13:09.000And so, however, in the alternative, I can tell you actual stories about people trying to get firearms who needed them immediately but couldn't get them and thus probably died as a result of it.
00:13:25.000And so, and I know other people, people, like, I've had, hell, I've had girlfriends in the past who have dealt with situations with stalkers who were like, okay, I need a gun for tonight because this person showed up at my house.
00:13:37.000But don't you think that in order to safely, you want to make sure that someone is not a dangerous, violent felon before you sell them a gun?
00:13:56.000So the logic is, say if a woman knows that a guy is stalking her and might show up at her house tonight, she wants to be able to have a gun.
00:14:14.000So right now, if you go and buy a gun from a dealer, someone who has a license to sell firearms as a business, you have to have a background check.
00:14:31.000It's just that we live in a technical, you know, we have technology now, so it allows us to conduct a background check a lot quicker than we probably would 30, 40 years.
00:14:39.000Yeah, I bought my first gun in 94, and the background check is like, by pony.
00:14:46.000I don't know how they did it back then, but it took a while.
00:15:04.000And so, generally speaking, in most states, you're not required to force someone to get a background check if you were going to sell them a gun.
00:15:11.000Like, if you're in the business of selling guns, then that's one thing.
00:15:14.000But if you're like, hey, Joe, you want a gun?
00:15:17.000Say you saw one of my guns, and you're like, hey, I want to buy that gun.
00:15:23.000As long as I know you're not a felon or have a reason to know that you're a felon or a prohibited person of some sort, I can sell you the gun.
00:15:29.000So you don't have to do any kind of check?
00:15:33.000Now, I'm at liberty to say, hey, Joe, how about you meet me at this gun store and pay for a background check on top of the price of the gun and then conduct a background check, which a lot of people do.
00:15:53.000So like if you had a friend and she had a stalker and the stalker was going to break into her house, you could legally sell her a gun to Texas right there and then.
00:16:11.000And again, I bring this back to you are best case scenario.
00:16:15.000For a guy like you to have a gun, I don't worry about you having a gun at all.
00:16:19.000I think what I'm worried about is, again, people that are psychotic, people that are on medication, people that are dangerous, people that are criminals, people that are thugs.
00:16:28.000That's what everybody's worried about.
00:18:29.000If I was someone who had an anti-Second Amendment message, you're the biggest nightmare.
00:18:35.000A lawyer who's a friendly guy, good-looking, articulate, really good at media, you're always doing things, and you have a passion for these guns, and you talk about them.
00:18:45.000You did this thing where you're walking around, there's a bunch of tires around, and you're smiling.
00:19:34.000All the sensorial effects that you get from an American muscle car, generally speaking, with a little bit more refinement, you get from Aston Martins.
00:19:41.000But then they also go wrong and they also lose value incredibly.
00:20:37.000Yeah, it's like my first time ever driving a car around a track like that.
00:20:41.000And I got to drive pretty much anything I wanted.
00:20:44.000And the car I walked away from that was like, I mean, anywhere from like a Ferrari Pista to a 911 GT3. And the car that I walked away from, like, yeah, it was actually the Porsche 911 GT3. Yeah.
00:20:57.000And we're talking about a $300,000 to $400,000 car.
00:22:44.000And one of the writers basically said his justification for it was, you know, during the time when they were working on the actual cartoon, it happened really close to the Vegas shooting.
00:22:53.000And so they were like, everyone in the media wanted to stay away from guns.
00:22:56.000So I'm like, but the scythe and explosions are okay?
00:24:53.000So my mind goes, okay, this is more of a cultural thing, right?
00:24:57.000I think there's an attempt to be made to erase the idea of firearm ownership in this country.
00:25:02.000Because I think there are a lot of people like me, like we grew up, even though I didn't grow up with firearms, I still grew up with an understanding of the Second Amendment.
00:25:09.000I was taught about the Second Amendment to a certain degree in school.
00:25:12.000I guarantee you they're not teaching about the Second Amendment in schools now.
00:25:26.000I'm assuming the demographic of people that are going to be watching that would be largely you and I who kind of grew up with it in the past for the nostalgia effect.
00:25:34.000But then also a new generation of kids are going to be watching that as well.
00:25:37.000And we all grew up with Elmo Fred having the shotgun.
00:25:46.000But see, here's the funny thing about that.
00:25:48.000You know, when it comes to the issue of firearms and the gun debate in this country, you get people like Joe Biden talking about, you know, all you need is a shotgun.
00:26:51.000There's a video of me right now on YouTube where I was hunting hogs at night with an AR. And the funny thing is, a lot of it too, for me, I mean, we have cougars in Texas.
00:27:05.000So people don't think about that component.
00:27:06.000So I may be hunting one animal, but there may be another animal hunting me.
00:29:00.000Yeah, we got a lot of messages from people.
00:29:01.000I got a lot of messages from cops that think that I had a bad take on the Atlanta case because the guy stole a taser and then they shot him.
00:29:12.000And they, you know, what they were saying to me is essentially that this guy had a criminal history and that just because someone is being compliant doesn't necessarily mean that they don't have an evil intentions.
00:32:04.000There's things that happen to people in high-pressure situations that you can't attribute normal thinking to them in high-pressure situations.
00:32:12.000I've had somebody also, because I've had multiple conversations.
00:32:15.000So when stuff like this comes out, I haven't talked about this because I don't think it's a gun issue.
00:32:20.000So I don't talk about it on my channel.
00:32:22.000But I do have these conversations personally.
00:32:26.000And so I talk to different people who I know will have different perspectives.
00:32:29.000One thing somebody pointed out to me was the idea that, like you talked about, in the moment...
00:32:33.000With the adrenaline being pumped and then you have the tunnel vision and all that stuff that's going on.
00:32:38.000There is a sort of kind of a reactive nature to hearing the sound of a pop going off and then a cop possibly thinking that he was shooting a gun.
00:33:44.000Training courses and these cops are there paying for it themselves.
00:33:47.000It's not even like the department sent them there or they're subsidizing their training.
00:33:52.000They're there by themselves paying their own money to go to these training courses so that they can be more proficient and better at firearm handling, safety, so forth and so on.
00:34:02.000So when I'm saying I have two positions, my one position is that I think cops need way better training.
00:34:08.000I think it just it should be a higher priority for us to have like elite people like Navy SEAL caliber people as police officers and people that are trained to defuse situations and people are trained and also people that live in the community and people that have a relationship with people in the community so that there's more of an investment.
00:34:31.000I say the entirety of our nation needs to be better trained on firearms.
00:34:36.000We have over 300 million guns in this country.
00:34:38.000There's absolutely no reason why we should have so many people not versed and have the knowledge necessary to own and operate a firearm safely.
00:34:47.000So you're one of those people like a well-armed society is a polite society.
00:35:27.000You're going to interact and you're going to come across a gun at some point in your life in this country.
00:35:30.000And so as a result of that, we should be talking about, all right, maybe we subsidize the idea of mass distribution of knowledge with respect to firearm use and teaching people to be responsible gun owners so as to create a culture.
00:35:43.000That looks at firearms, one, under the guise of the Second Amendment, but also knowing how to operate them safely and responsibly.
00:35:50.000It's so funny because people have this contradiction, right?
00:35:54.000Part of them does not want that because they don't want to encourage firearms because they think that'll create more firearms.
00:36:02.000I see your point, too, that the firearms already exist, and at least this will give people an understanding of the safe way to use them, the proper way to use them.
00:36:11.000I mean, how many people have guns and they've never even fired them?
00:36:56.000People have to go to your Instagram page to be educated in how to...
00:37:00.000But there's good in that, too, because you do have a large following on Instagram, and a lot of people are going to go, and they're going to learn some things from those videos.
00:37:16.000I can tell you, if I brought my business partner here right now and we talked about that, I'm telling you, you saw what our numbers were before in terms of who we were able to reach and what they are now?
00:37:36.000Everything is intelligent and you're clearly well educated on the subject both in the arguments against gun use in the Second Amendment and also the correct way to use them.
00:37:46.000Let me play devil's advocate against myself.
00:37:50.000Could very well be the fact that they may see that aspect of me and other people like me, but they don't have the same faith in other people.
00:40:13.000Because I'm very much of, look, you do what you want to do with your life as long as it doesn't interfere with mine or step on any of my rights, we're good.
00:40:51.000However, on social media and in general, the idea of having a nuanced perspective on a particular issue is so far gone now that you can't even really have a conversation.
00:41:02.000I can say in one breath, I am pro cop.
00:41:28.000I think we can also say in one breath, I'm pro-cop, but I'm also pro these peaceful protests.
00:41:34.000I think these peaceful protests are important.
00:41:38.000Maybe I did a bad job of explaining what I was trying to say, but whatever basketball player was mad at me the other day, because it was something I said that I think a lot of these people are fighting like an invisible enemy when they're protesting.
00:41:48.000What I mean by that is Yes, we need bad cops.
00:41:53.000Yes, cops should stop shooting, whether it's black people or white people or anybody for the wrong reason.
00:41:58.000I remember our last segment, we made a mistake verbally and people jumped on it.
00:42:24.000There's also statistically not even just shooting people.
00:42:28.000If you look at the death statistics for cops and black people, there's a thing that people like to do where they say, well, actually cops shoot more white people than black people.
00:42:42.000There are more white people than black people.
00:42:46.000But the other thing that I think is as important if not more important is cops are physical with black people more than they are white people.
00:42:53.000Cops are physical with brown people, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans.
00:42:56.000They're physical with them more than they are white people statistically by as much or more than 25%.
00:43:45.000And I always hesitate because, like I said, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I have to call a spade a spade.
00:43:50.000There's a subversive group in this country that wants to topple the current structure of the United States so that they can gain power because they think they can rule better.
00:44:00.000And a lot of those people, generally speaking, are Marxist.
00:44:19.000The leader, the founders of Black Lives Matter, like, the founders of Black Lives Matter literally just came out and basically said she's a trained Marxist.
00:44:25.000She didn't basically say, she said blatantly, she's a trained Marxist.
00:45:24.000And this is what I did a shitty job of explaining.
00:45:26.000There's a lot of people that are out there protesting.
00:45:29.000I don't necessarily think they understand what needs to be done.
00:45:34.000What needs to be done to keep us safe is not defunding the police.
00:45:39.000What needs to be done is, they need to go through the fucking police department with a fine-tooth comb and every one of these motherfuckers that has multiple complaints, just get rid of them.
00:45:50.000If the multiple complaints don't make sense, then leave them alone.
00:45:54.000But find out, like that guy, that guy that killed that guy, or anybody who could do that to a person, who could lean on a person's neck like that for eight minutes.
00:46:04.000Something's fucking wrong with you, and you should have never been a cop in the first place.
00:46:06.000And we all know that there are people like that.
00:46:09.000When you talk to people that are in the military, there are folks that they have to work with that are fucking sociopaths.
00:46:14.000And they hope that BUDS training and that SEAL training is going to weed those guys out, or that Ranger training, or whatever the fuck it is that they have to do, but it doesn't always.
00:46:22.000And sometimes they get in a situation, and Jocko was talking about how you'll get an entire SEAL team that they have to disband and reset up, because they have bad leadership.
00:46:33.000And so you did these same guys, and they come in with good leadership, and they get trained correctly, and it turns around.
00:46:38.000And it turns out, you know, if we join some sort of a military group, and you're being led by some fucking piece of shit commander, what do you do?
00:47:21.000Something happened, like first day on the job, he witnessed some crazy shit and he was basically told, hey motherfucker, this is how we do shit.
00:47:30.000Like get all that fucking goody-two-shoes dragnet bullshit out of your head.
00:47:36.000And so then you're indoctrinated into this force that's already compromised.
00:47:40.000And I think that's where a lot of people come from when they talk about the systemic aspect of this.
00:47:45.000It's that culture that breeds the mentality that says, all right, this is the way things are going to be done, so you either get down or you lay down.
00:47:53.000And so in a lot of that, that responsibility is born on the leadership in these places.
00:48:13.000And so at that point, if you can't really reasonably justify why this person is getting a lot of complaints, and like you said, if it doesn't make sense why they're getting complaints, then okay, cool.
00:48:21.000But if you're like, all right, this just seems real suspect.
00:48:24.000Either do a deeper investigation of it or get rid of them.
00:48:27.000Yeah, and there's a problem with most people when you give them ultimate power over someone else.
00:48:32.000And it's not just the power of having a gun, it's the power of being able to tell someone, do what I'm telling you to do.
00:48:38.000There's a crazy video I watched the other day of a white guy pulling over another white guy, and he's telling the guy, get out of the car, and the guy's going, why do you want me to get out of the car?
00:48:47.000He goes, because I'm fucking telling you to get out of the car, and he pulls out his pepper spray.
00:51:23.000Me as a citizen should understand that because there are certain people who are bad apples, who carry firearms, that are interacting with the cops and may want to do ill will towards the cops, that I as a citizen should understand and have the responsibility that says, all right, there are certain things I'm going to do whenever I'm interacting with a cop that signals to them,
00:51:39.000hey, I don't mean you no harm, I mean you no threat.
00:51:42.000I get pulled over, the first thing I do is I pull over, roll the windows down, I have my ID, and I have my concealed carry license in hand, right?
00:51:50.000Everything I'm doing is just to put the cop at ease.
00:51:53.000I'm demonstrating to the cop, look, I understand.
00:56:39.000The organization, though, that's the problem I have because they're essentially the leadership of this.
00:56:45.000So you think that the leadership has almost like a secret motive that the people that are involved that are doing all the groundwork probably aren't even aware of?
00:56:57.000Because I remember Black Lives Matter, and it was a video I did, I think, two years ago.
00:57:01.000And this is when I was with the NRA. And Black Lives Matter was attacking the NRA, basically saying that they don't really care about black gun ownership, so forth and so on.
00:57:30.000All of a sudden they get this massive wave of funding and their whole direction shifts into some other stuff that I have no idea what it has to do with anything.
00:57:40.000Now it's become this kind of like all-encompassing umbrella of LGBTQ and some other stuff.
00:57:45.000But then even aspects of, I guess, I don't want to say Antifa is under the umbrella, but the whole Marxist kind of communist socialist aspects of politics kind of creeping into that as well.
00:57:57.000And then when you couple that with the idea that you have the actual founders saying that they're trained in Marxism, and then you have what you see now playing out where you have these very peaceful protests being co-opted by violent people who are now just engaging in rioting and looting and then branding it Black Lives Matter.
00:58:39.000And really, he was like, they really was just a bunch of kids just running around taking advantage of the chaos and just kind of breaking windows.
00:58:45.000And you have to take into consideration these kids haven't worked in three months.
00:58:47.000They're probably broke as fuck and looking for free shit.
00:59:09.000There's so many videos of people filming on the streets where all this madness is going.
00:59:13.000This one crazy video where all these people are breaking into shit and this guy runs in the street and another guy hits him with a car and he goes flying through the air and the car takes off.
01:00:36.000And there was all these empty promises, and it's like they got away with giving out one check, and then they stopped.
01:00:42.000But it was supposed to be a constant thing, right?
01:00:45.000From my understanding, I mean, I didn't get anything clearly, but from my understanding, it was supposed to be a constant thing, and it didn't happen the way it happened.
01:00:53.000But it should demonstrate to a lot of people You're going to take the same government and put your safety completely in the hands of the same government?
01:01:46.000Whether it's optimistic or pessimistic, it's realistic.
01:01:50.000When you get a hand of cards, and if you're dealt a shit hand of cards and you just sit around complaining about it, it doesn't do you any good.
01:01:58.000There's people that have been dealt shittier hands and they've figured it out.
01:03:00.000The unfortunate thing is that some people are not gifted with a parent that gives them the sort of perspective that your mom gave you.
01:03:09.000That life is not fair, deal with it, and then you go forth with that knowledge.
01:03:13.000There's a lot of people out there that unfortunately, they're born into terrible households where they're abused and there's crime around them and violence and they never get a chance.
01:03:21.000They never get a chance, and I get it, because they've developed in these abusive mentalities, these mentalities that develop in this fucked up situation.
01:03:31.000And that's the thing, too, that I think that's a problem with the conversation that's going on.
01:03:34.000Too many people are too dismissive of that reality, right?
01:03:36.000Because even though I can sit here and tell you, basically what I'm saying is pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.
01:04:11.000So as a result of that, I look at that, and I understand what the 80s crack epidemic did to black families during that time period.
01:04:17.000So now you have crackheads raising crackheads and then having kids.
01:04:24.000That's essentially what happened as a result of that.
01:04:27.000So to ignore that and to say, nah, nah, nah, you know, everybody has it hard, which they do, but you can't discount it and say that it doesn't have an effect.
01:04:36.000Because there is an aspect of being so low, you really don't stand a chance in hell.
01:04:41.000And to dismiss that wholesale, I think is disingenuous.
01:04:55.000At bare minimum, at least have the conversation.
01:04:57.000Yeah, I think the conversation should be, how come you guys had trillions of dollars to bail out these corporations during the COVID lockdown, but you didn't have trillions of dollars to fix these impoverished communities that have been in the same situation for decades?
01:05:14.000It's like there's so much money that you can spend to avoid an economic collapse, but yet there's no money to fix what's been an economic collapse forever.
01:05:23.000I mean, what are you doing with my money?
01:05:35.000Give people more of an opportunity to get better.
01:05:37.000Give people more of an opportunity to succeed.
01:05:40.000They should look at all those spots, whether it's Baltimore or Detroit or South Side of Chicago, look at all those spots in this country as places where people have much less of a chance.
01:05:52.000So if you give them more of a chance, you're going to have more productive people, you're going to have a stronger country.
01:07:23.000But what's interesting is what Brett Weinstein's...
01:07:28.000What his theory was, or his thought was, he's a biologist, and he was on the podcast last week, and one of the things that he pointed out was there's all these indications that this is something that escaped from a lab, like very specific indications.
01:07:48.000And then he pointed out some things that I'm not going to remember because I'm a moron.
01:07:51.000But he said also it seems like because of the fact that it dies in sunlight, but it spreads very easily without sunlight, it's very contagious.
01:08:02.000He thinks it may have evolved in this laboratory environment to be more contagious while indoors.
01:08:07.000So his thought is that this is something that they probably had created in order to test various antiviral medications and all these different things, and that during this process somehow or another it got out.
01:08:24.000And it's one of the reasons why this thing spread so quickly to people indoors.
01:12:57.000But I try to learn from those mistakes.
01:13:00.000And then another thing, too, because there is no nuance, most of the people who are mad at me, especially with the Black Lives Matter aspect of things, I don't have a problem with the Black Lives Matter sentiment.
01:14:13.000Like, I don't see why anybody would get mad at Black Lives Matter, and I don't understand why anybody would get mad at All Lives Matter.
01:14:18.000But I can see why somebody would get mad at someone saying All Lives Matter in response to Black Lives Matter, because what it seems like it's doing is just undermining and just kind of tossing aside the aspect of the complaint.
01:15:01.000However, if there is a particularized group of people within that inclusiveness that feel like their lives don't matter, At bare minimum, we should have that conversation.
01:15:12.000We should just at least have that conversation and say, alright, why do you feel that way?
01:15:17.000What is it exactly that makes you think that your life doesn't matter?
01:15:20.000And then when we go through the particular points and address each one, you know what?
01:15:27.000Or it may be completely, utterly valid.
01:15:29.000But at bare minimum, if we can't even get to the point where we have the conversation because our instinctive gut is to say, no, all lies matter.
01:16:35.000I think we're doing better at it than we ever have before, though, just because of the fact there's been these gigantic peaceful protests and the conversation is going.
01:16:43.000And also because, look, I don't think it's good that people get fired for saying all lives matter, but they do get fired for saying all lives matter now.
01:16:53.000I think people should be allowed to say whatever they want without fear of retribution.
01:16:56.000Well, I do too, but it's fascinating to me that there's these fearful people that want to cancel people for every mistake and everything they've done wrong.
01:17:04.000One thing that I had a conversation with somebody about it when they were saying, like, what's wrong with saying all lives matter?
01:17:10.000I'm like, there's nothing wrong with saying all lives matter, but here's the problem.
01:17:13.000The only reason why people are saying black lives matter is because there's people out there that don't feel like they matter.
01:17:20.000If you said white lives matter, people would be like, duh.
01:17:25.000You couldn't have a movement in this country that says white lives matter.
01:17:29.000People would be like, what the fuck are you complaining about?
01:17:31.000But here's the thing about that, too, though.
01:17:36.000In a country as mixed as we are, everyone has the particularized issues in this country.
01:17:42.000Everybody has their own problems as a group.
01:17:45.000I'm not going to discount your problems because I don't suffer from them.
01:17:48.000So if you want to tell me all white lives matter, cool.
01:19:43.000He suffers from the same kind of headline focus.
01:19:46.000He'll see it and won't really investigate it any further.
01:19:48.000And then he'll just and then he'll kind of take whatever confirmation bias he may have over here and over here and just kind of throw it together and then he'll say something.
01:20:41.000But to be in that position and do what you have to deal with, I have no choice but to respect it, which is why I will always respect the office and who's in it.
01:21:09.000What everybody should be hopeful or should have been hopeful for when he got erected is to be pleasantly surprised.
01:21:14.000Pleasantly surprised that he said, like, I'm sorry all the shit I said about Mexicans being rapists, but now I'm not gonna do that anymore.
01:21:21.000I'm gonna do my best to make this place the best place to be.
01:21:23.000Even that, even that was taken out of context.
01:21:36.000But what I think a lot of it is, is man, we have so much information now, and so many people are angling for their own agenda based on the same information.
01:21:57.000So it's going to be hard for somebody who's just trying to raise a family.
01:22:00.000Hell, it's not like you don't have a family to raise either.
01:22:03.000But it's hard to be able to parse through all the information we have at our disposal to come out with what's actually true and correct or full context.
01:22:12.000You know, I mean, that's the other thing.
01:22:14.000It's so difficult for someone like me who does talk for a living, and I fuck things up all the time.
01:22:19.000You know, and I can't imagine being in charge of as many things as anybody that is a president or a governor or even a mayor is in charge.
01:22:34.000In terms of just my little platform over here in this little small area.
01:22:37.000And it's a lot, man, because especially if you actually give a damn.
01:22:41.000Yes, if I'm if I was just out here acting and just saying shit because you know just Feeding my bass whatever they want to hear right then that'll be a different story But I challenge I challenge my bass all the time Well, I think that's one of the reasons why you resonate because you are a genuine person like you're It's very obvious that the things you say you say them because you mean it and this is your perspective and this is your well-thought-out perspective on things and I think that that's There's a big difference between that and someone who just says shit because they think
01:23:11.000that this is their brand, and this is their audience is going to respond to this, and this is probably going to get me more likes.
01:23:18.000And that's a real problem with social media.
01:24:15.000But like my mom said, you made your bed and I lay in it.
01:24:17.000I'm not complaining about it, but I just need some people to understand the perspective and where I'm coming from and why I'm not quick to talk about a lot of stuff.
01:24:25.000Because sometimes I just need time to figure out what the hell is going on.
01:24:28.000Because there are a lot of people, I get messages, who rely on my information to make their decision.
01:24:43.000So I'm going to try to give it the best gas as possible.
01:24:45.000And so that's what I try to do, especially when I talk about the gun issue.
01:24:49.000Because right now there's so much misinformation on the gun issue.
01:24:53.000And a lot of times people don't even know what they don't know.
01:24:56.000For instance, when you had Alonzo Bowden on here, I could tell a lot of what he was saying was coming from a good place.
01:25:02.000There were some things he just didn't know he knew or didn't know.
01:25:05.000And so that's kind of where I put myself.
01:25:08.000I said, okay, how do I tailor and craft videos in such a way that somebody who isn't necessarily a gun person can understand it?
01:25:15.000What Alonzo Bowden said, what bothered you?
01:25:19.000Some of the misinformation with respect to background checks.
01:25:23.000The background check aspect of it, where he kind of talked about it from the standpoint of the waiting period, the questionnaire that you filled out in the beginning, before you submit yourself for the background check, that that was the background check.
01:25:37.000A lot of people think that, oh, you just go there, fill out a yes or no questionnaire about whether or not you can own a gun, and then you get a gun.
01:26:50.000So if there's a law that says you can't have more than 10 rounds, like here in California, right?
01:26:55.000I can't have a magazine that has more than 10 rounds.
01:26:58.000If I'm a criminal and I know I'm going to commit a crime, do I really give a damn about a law that says I can't carry 10 rounds in my magazine?
01:27:12.000Because there's whole dialogues about what size gun you can have, how many rounds you want to have, what bullet caliber, things of that nature.
01:28:26.000They're stealing them from someone's gun safe or from someone's house.
01:28:29.000That's what a lot of it is coming from anyway.
01:28:31.000I think a lot of the kind of project, not so much the politicians, I think the politicians are by and large very disingenuous, but a lot of people who support these ideas, who are just regular people, I think it's their way of trying to figure out some way of control.
01:28:44.000Because mass shootings terrifies because they're so random.
01:29:08.000And even though they account for almost a statistical zero of gun violence in this country, they still terrify us because we don't know when or where it's going to happen.
01:29:17.000See, the other gun violence stuff doesn't really terrify us as much because we know where it happens.
01:29:52.000And he was like, I was like, well, if a teacher is willing to sacrifice, we have teachers that have sacrificed their lives for their students during school shootings.
01:30:00.000So I'm like, if a teacher is willing to sacrifice their life for their kids, why not put a gun in their hand to give them the power to fight for their life?
01:30:07.000And he goes, because they're teachers.
01:32:08.000Well, it's also a long conversation, and this is my problem with any of those shows, is that you've got like three minutes to discuss something that should be three hours.
01:32:17.000And at the end of three hours, you're probably still...
01:32:20.000You've still got to walk away with a lot of questions and maybe not even...
01:32:40.000And I think, again, one of the reasons why I wanted to bring you on right after this COVID thing when I contacted you, because I think that people are now understanding that, hey, this police thing that you were counting on to protect you,
01:32:56.000Well, there's a lot of people that are trying to defund them now.
01:32:59.000You're not going to get them in certain places because they're in conflict with the state and the government, like in Atlanta, or in New York, where they're quitting left and right, and in California, they're trying to get the sheriff of Santa Monica to step down.
01:33:14.000I mean, you've got a lot of problems with the police.
01:33:16.000It's not as simple as, call the police, they'll be there for you.
01:33:19.000Even when it was that simple, it still was in effect.
01:33:24.000And this is what you and I, and I know we talked about this before, that this idea that you shouldn't be self-reliant, that you should be dependent upon the government.
01:33:36.000This is what the Second Amendment was written for.
01:33:40.000People say it was designed like a well-armed militia.
01:33:43.000It was designed in case, you know, someone was coming and attacking you.
01:33:46.000Like, no, it could be the government themselves.
01:34:10.000So even if it doesn't work, you think the government's going to say, well, better yet, this whole idea that they're going to have a gun buyback program, the voluntary buyback.
01:34:21.000You think they're going to give you your guns back if it doesn't work?
01:34:24.000If the crime rate still stays the same, which it has in other places that have done the same thing...
01:35:31.000And there's some concern that this might have been some sort of intelligence operation.
01:35:39.000That there's something more to this story.
01:35:41.000Because they were talking about the way he got that money that it very well could have been that he was involved in something on a totally different level.
01:35:51.000The Nova Scotia shooter case has hallmarks of an undercover operation.
01:35:55.000Police say the killer's withdrawal $475,000 was highly irregular and how the RCMP agent would get money.
01:36:05.000Royal Canadian Mounted Police, I think that is.
01:36:08.000Withdrawal $475,000 in cash by the man who killed 22 Nova Scotians in April matches the method.
01:36:14.000That is Royal Canadian Mounted Police, right?
01:36:17.000Use this to send money to confidential informants and agents, sources say.
01:36:22.000Gabrielle Wattman, who is responsible for the largest mass killing in Canadian history, withdrew the money from a Brinks deposit in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, March 30th, stashing a carryall filled with $100 bills in the trunk of his car.
01:36:47.000And they're Canadians, so they're actually nice.
01:36:49.000Sources in both banking and the RCMP say the transaction is consistent with how the RCMP funnels money to its confidential informants and agents and is not an option available to private banking customers.
01:37:02.000The RCMP has repeatedly said that it has no, in quotes, special relationship with Wartman, which means the regular relationship.
01:37:10.000Court documents show that Wartman owned a New Brunswick registered company called Berkshire Broman, the legal owner of two of his vehicles, including one of the police replica cars.
01:37:40.000And there's no reason to believe that it also would require him to handle large amounts of cash.
01:37:47.000If Wartman is or was an RCMP informant or agent, it would explain while the force appeared not to take action on complaints about his illegal guns and his assault on his common law wife.
01:38:59.000Alright, so assault rifle, and assault rifle is, to put it simply, And I'm trying to explain this in plain language for people who don't know any different.
01:39:06.000Most people think when they hear assault rifle, they think a machine gun, which is fully automatic or semi-automatic.
01:39:38.000Well, why does who call an assault rifle?
01:39:40.000Why do people call an AR an assault rifle?
01:39:42.000Well, because that's language used by the anti-gunners who are pushing an agenda.
01:39:46.000So what they want to do is they want to closely tie the idea of a machine gun that people largely see being used in movies to what's being sold on the streets.
01:39:55.000So the distinction would be automatic versus semi-automatic.
01:39:58.000And the difference between an AR is you don't have to cock it like a bolt-action rifle every time you fire a shot.
01:41:25.000Because the pharmaceutical industry has a shitload of money, and there's a lot of these politicians that are in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry.
01:41:32.000They have a firm grip on the narrative.
01:41:38.000Yeah, and they also don't want all the other people that are on these psychotropic medications to feel bad that they're on them, that they could be lumped in with these same people.
01:41:46.000Like, imagine if we just started Like if it's SSRIs or antidepressants or anti-anxiety medication, imagine if that becomes the narrative in the news.
01:41:56.000Like that people on SSRIs are fucking dangerous because all these school shooters are on SSRIs.
01:42:01.000That would almost be a better argument than the NRA. Because if you look at the NRA and you look at NRA members and the amount of NRA members that have Actually done these horrible mass shootings.
01:43:24.000I know how to handle it, but I'm very sensitive.
01:43:27.000And it could speak to the notion that when you hear people describe the account of interacting with a mass shooter, them having this kind of stoic, motionless face.
01:43:40.000I mean, it's really like the numbers are staggering.
01:43:43.000And I'm not saying medication causes people to do that.
01:43:46.000But I mean, it's something that needs to be talked about and explored.
01:43:50.000Now, I sit on the board of Walk the Talk America.
01:43:53.000Which is a mental health, a 2A mental health organization, whose goal basically is to address the correlation, if any, between firearm ownership and mental health.
01:44:06.000And is this something that you got involved because of the attacks on gun ownership and the recognition that there is some sort of correlation?
01:44:13.000So the catalyst for it was to say, because a lot of gun owners will say, well, it's a mental health issue.
01:44:19.000As you and I agree, we do believe that is the case.
01:44:22.000So what Walk to Talk America does is it says, okay, so let's walk the talk.
01:44:26.000Let's try to figure out how to fix or deal with the mental health issue component.
01:44:30.000If we're going to say that's what it is and it's not the gun and we do believe that, so let's start having that conversation and doing what needs to do.
01:44:37.000So what the organization does is it crosses the aisle with people in the mental health space and brings them over into the gun side and vice versa.
01:44:45.000And so we can have those conversations to figure out a way how we can kind of balance the firearm ownership with mental health.
01:44:52.000Because that conversation is not being had.
01:44:54.000And so I think if we're going to talk about it and say it is a mental health issue, okay, so let's start this deep-sea dive into the mental health issue and see if we can come up with a solution that speaks to why we have so many people that have these mental health issues.
01:45:07.000And then how do we exist in a world where this many people have mental health issues in a world also where we have this many guns.
01:45:14.000And so that we can better solve whatever problems we think we have instead of just throwing around, well, we need to ban this.
01:45:21.000We need to come up with this stupid law, like, instead of doing that.
01:45:27.000I don't think it's as simple as banning things because I think there's a lot of people that are responsible gun users and gun owners, and I don't think you should do anything to take away their rights.
01:46:28.000There's certain topics like, here's a good one, global warming.
01:46:33.000I guarantee you, man, if you had across the board how much of climate change is natural versus how much of it is man-made, and just a simple question and you threw that out there, I guarantee if you looked at the numbers and you could get a real accurate assessment of how many conservatives and how many liberals responded.
01:46:53.000And I think that if you said, is it a hoax, when you went to the yes side, yes, it's a hoax, it's overwhelmingly conservative people who think it's a hoax, or that it's not an issue.
01:47:03.000I think the reason for that, to a degree, is because you have so many people, you have very...
01:47:09.000Very out-front figureheads who've tried to utilize global climate change as a way to kind of undermine the economic structure in this country.
01:47:25.000It's just trying to entirely change the economic structure of our country to be more beneficial.
01:47:30.000Well, can you define the New Green Deal for people who don't know what it means, like what they're trying to do?
01:47:34.000Basically, they're trying to replace all of our kind of conservative means of production with respect to energy and replace it with green energy.
01:47:43.000And I don't think it's completely sustainable.
01:47:45.000And it's not even like it's progressive.
01:47:47.000It's a complete turnaround, 180. And I just think that's irresponsible.
01:47:59.000I have not done enough research on climate change to have a definitive opinion about it.
01:48:08.000So what I'm telling you is what I'm seeing other people say.
01:48:12.000And that's why I think there are a lot of people on the conservative aspect of it that are like it's a hoax because they see it as basic economic conversion.
01:48:20.000Now, as far as climate change in and of itself, I don't know.
01:48:24.000I'm probably the last person to talk to about that because I like my cars to destroy the environment.
01:49:41.000They have an independent front suspension, so it handles really well.
01:49:43.000By the way, none of these fucking suburban housewives are ever taking those goddamn things off-roading, so I don't even know why it ever had two live axles, right?
01:49:51.000It's like, most of what it is, is like, moms are picking up their kids in these fucking things.
01:50:34.000If everybody had electric cars, that would be the case all day long, every day.
01:50:38.000Yeah, but then some people make the argument that what you need, like the batteries and so forth and so on, cause as much destruction as...
01:51:51.000Because it was something that Jeremy Clarkson said on Top Gear, that when the exhaust that comes out of a 911 turbo is actually cleaner than the air in a polluted area.
01:52:30.000I was like, okay, so now this is where we get the marriage between the practical efficiency of electric cars and then the sensorial effect of having the old world cars.
01:52:40.000Now it's starting to get that marriage and that balance right.
01:53:51.000Porsche states that under normal driving conditions, this car exceeds 31 miles per gallon and does indeed only produce a maximum carbon output of 300 units.
01:54:01.000So in retrospect, Jeremy Clarkson's conclusion upon the heavily polluted cities is plausibly correct and therefore quite amazing.
01:54:46.000So it's not as bad, but it's bad enough to go like, oh, man, this is bad.
01:54:51.000Well, there's a friend of mine who is buddies with this photographer, and this photographer is like, he, whenever shit goes down, he goes out and gets photographs and videos, and he got this insane video of Hollywood the very night where everybody was smashing and burning everything.
01:55:12.000I mean, I don't want to share it because it's his personal video, but he's walking down the street, and he's panning, and it's just people smashing windows, and things are on fire, and people are running out of stores with packages, and it's all happening on the street in front of them.
01:55:26.000The streets are covered with debris and dirt, and he's just panning back and forth with his camera.
01:55:32.000I'm like, oh my god, this is Hollywood?
01:55:34.000This is where I drive to go tell jokes?
01:57:30.000But people tell me that I'm ridiculous for wanting to own a firearm.
01:57:34.000Yeah, they're ridiculous, and they look ridiculous now.
01:57:38.000I mean, again, I'll say it again, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on right after it hit.
01:57:42.000When I contacted you, I was like, this is the time to really talk about this stuff because this is where people are more open to this idea.
01:57:50.000We live in a messy world, and I know that there's a lot of good people that don't want guns.
01:57:56.000I had a conversation with this comedian friend of mine when one of the mass shootings happened, and he was like, we just got to take away all the guns.
01:59:01.000So that's another reason why the whole notion of having waiting periods for me, I'm just like, nah, I can't get with it.
01:59:05.000It's so crazy how everything went sideways.
01:59:09.000I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the fact that I had a really dumb person tried to explain to me that they think that George Floyd was murdered so that the riots could happen.
01:59:20.000Oh my god, that's the dumbest argument of all time.
01:59:22.000Like, yeah, you got a fucking sociopath who's a known sociopath who just happened to have him arrest a guy that he's already had a personal beef with.
01:59:38.000You have this Polemic, sort of polarizing president, right?
01:59:46.000And then you have this disease that comes from another country, and he's calling it the Chinese virus, and you know, we're already in trade war talks with China.
01:59:55.000So you go, wow, imagine if China, like, released this virus.
01:59:58.000There's all these crazy, if you're one of those people, there's all these crazy conspiracies you can come up with.
02:00:03.000Then the George Floyd murder, which is months into this horrible lockdown where everybody's losing their fucking money, nobody has any money.
02:00:16.000Because when people start losing money and there's no way to get it back and they're just losing their businesses through no fault of their own.
02:00:21.000And then on top of that you see a video of a guy getting murdered by a cop and it's a slow torture murder and it's horrific and then the fucking city explodes and then what's unprecedented is that the whole world responds.
02:01:14.000I understand humans, and I understand that we are a strange animal, and we live in this bizarre state of civilization that has a thin veneer A thin veneer that protects us from all of our survival instincts and chaos and all of our tribal instincts and our brutality that we have just under the surface.
02:01:47.000I support people like you, and that's why I want to have these kind of conversations, because I don't think there's enough people looking at it realistically, and I think there's more now.
02:01:55.000And I think having a conversation with someone who's so well-reasoned about this is very important right now.
02:03:35.000So I found the most remote diner in San Francisco I could possibly find for my hotel.
02:03:41.000I rented this 911 GT3, and I drove about an hour and 30 minutes to this diner.
02:03:47.000Had some eggs, had some oatmeal, ate, got back in the car, drove back down the mountain, went back to my hotel, and then the next day, I plotted out another course, and I did the same shit.
02:04:14.000I don't have a problem with it at all.
02:04:17.000The people that do have a problem with it, it is this emotional, in my opinion, narrow-minded perspective.
02:04:25.000I think it's narrow-minded in that, well, okay, it's...
02:04:31.000I think, in one way, it's not narrow-minded.
02:04:33.000In one way, if you would want to look at it with the best perspective possible, you would hope that we have evolved to the point where we no longer need guns.
02:06:54.000And it's a very weak-minded perspective, too.
02:06:58.000I mean, there's different kinds of success, too, right?
02:07:01.000There's the success of someone who built a business versus success of someone who's doing some shady shit with loans and fucking over people with subprime mortgages.
02:07:15.000There's different things that make you successful.
02:07:18.000There's the Wolf of Wall Street money that you get from ripping people off and scamming people.
02:07:24.000That being said, though, that's pretty blatant.
02:07:26.000But it's also like the gun problem, man.
02:08:26.000Or it means find the strength within yourself to overcome an issue that you're dealing with.
02:08:31.000The gun showed me, and not only taught me that, it taught me responsibility.
02:08:36.000Because now we are talking, however I want to Disney-fy it, as far as the sporting enthusiast aspect of it, it's still something, it's life and death.
02:09:16.000I'm going to need therapy because it's made me value life.
02:09:18.000Not that I didn't value life before, but it's something that brings it to the forefront of your consciousness when you have a gun and you understand what that gun can be used to do.
02:09:26.000And so that happens to way more people than people realize.
02:09:31.000Most people think that people get a gun and they just become reckless murderers who want to kill everybody.
02:09:35.000When in reality, there are a number of stories of people out there who...
02:09:38.000I know a guy who the firearm helped him get out of his depression.
02:09:59.000He was young and he was depressed, but when he got into firearms, that allowed him to deal with his depression because he found something he was passionate about.
02:10:06.000That is crazy, but that's something that does actually work when you find something you really love and pursue it.
02:10:14.000That's one of the problems I have with the term depression.
02:10:17.000Boy, that's a blanket that you throw over so many different...
02:10:34.000But depression is in many ways like that in that there are people, and I know these people, that have a real problem with their brain and the way their brain produces chemicals.
02:10:44.000Same way some people have problems with their liver.
02:10:46.000Some people have they're born with ineffective lungs.
02:10:49.000These are all just parts of being a person.
02:10:51.000And some people have like legitimate issues that I think they need medication for.
02:10:55.000And then there's other people that they just don't feel good and they call it depression because their life sucks and their job sucks and no one wants to have sex with them and they don't have any money.
02:11:05.000So they're depressed and they say I'm suffering from depression.
02:11:10.000Well, some of those people get on medication, and I don't know if that's really the answer, because there's a lot of those people that I know that have discovered jiu-jitsu or discovered other things, yoga even.
02:11:21.000Physical things often, because they release endorphins and because they're actually healthy for you, but also you get passionate about something and you see this improvement.
02:11:29.000And when you were talking about that with guns, I was trying to describe to someone why I like shooting guns, and I said, one of the reasons why I like it is because I'm not very good at it.
02:12:54.000And there are some people, and it's hard, I'm not gonna lie to you, it's hard.
02:12:57.000Because I do so much shooting, now there's an expectation that I should be good.
02:13:01.000So, when I go out and do a gun review, and I'm missing with a particular gun, and then I see comments, man, you couldn't hit shit with that gun, man, you don't know, it does hit my ego a little bit.
02:16:39.000When he was on with the RZA from Wu-Tang, I said, well, Donnell is just, he's a wild motherfucker, and he's funny as shit, and he's always loud, and he's just crazy.
02:18:04.000A lot of people don't realize that people who put themselves out, like, you know, in front of the camera, like you and I, so forth and so on, like...
02:18:10.000Even though we may kind of get affected by your comments, they're never anywhere close to being as bad as what we tell ourselves in our heads.
02:18:27.000You know, it's just like I have good self-love, too.
02:18:29.000Like, I'm not as much as I'm supposed to.
02:18:34.000Because I have a problem in that I don't want to say I'm too driven, but I get very focused on things, especially things that I'm trying to get good at, and things that I take seriously, whether it's stand-up or whether it's doing this podcast or other things that I do,
02:19:21.000I mean, I can have any type, and this can't be healthy, but any type of thing I succeed at or anything that I do that is a milestone that people are like, oh, this is awesome.
02:19:31.000It lasts maybe 10 seconds, and I'm like, alright, you need to do better.
02:19:34.000Yes, but that's also why you're really good at things.
02:19:36.000And this is another thing that you see from people that are mediocre.
02:19:42.000Where they come up with excuses for why they fall short.
02:19:46.000They come up with excuses for why they didn't succeed in their chosen profession.
02:19:50.000They come up with excuses for why other people do well, but they've been ostracized, or they've been cast out, or they never were accepted, or they were treated like a second-class citizen.
02:20:39.000When I see people, particularly this happens, when you see people who are not very good commenting on people who are successful, they start saying, this is one of the reasons why I could never make it, because the people that made, they're sellouts, or they're this,
02:22:06.000I don't think it's a good way to communicate.
02:22:08.000And I said it with Bill on the show when he was trying to talk to me and doing the show and I think I agreed to it but then I found ways to get out of it.
02:22:14.000This is why, man, talking one-on-one is hard enough.
02:22:18.000Like, you have a thought, sometimes you're expanding, and I have a thought, and I'm holding onto it, but then you keep talking, and I don't know when to get it in there, and I lose it.
02:22:26.000Now, when there's three other fucking people, and they're all trying to get sound bites they're hoping are gonna be on YouTube...
02:23:01.000But having conversations in front of crowds, it's like a weird added element and you're appealing to others to chime in and reinforce your thoughts.
02:23:32.000I'd be lying if I said I did not value the ability for the time being within this two-hour, three-hour space to have access to your audience.
02:23:43.000At the same time, because I don't understand why.
02:23:47.000I mean, I understand why, but I'm just passionate about this.
02:23:50.000In a way that sometimes even I have a hard time articulating.
02:23:54.000And so when I see all of these new people, because I know your audience is very vast.
02:24:05.000And with your audience, it gives me the ability to speak to a wider gap of people who would otherwise never even look in my direction because of what I talk about.
02:24:18.000And there aren't that many platforms that are available right now that are willing to open their doors to the opposite perspective.
02:24:26.000Because you're a smart guy, you know this.
02:24:30.000This puts you in a very peculiar situation.
02:24:33.000You can end up looking really bad because you're literally confronting and testing out all of your ideas in front of your audience that thinks that you know everything.
02:24:44.000And so many people aren't willing to do that because they're worried about looking bad, which is why I give mad props to Bill Maher as well, because there aren't too many platforms.
02:24:54.000Most people just want to sit in their echo chambers, yell at their audience and say, all right!
02:26:35.000Yeah, but I think the problem is some people have this expectation where they tell themselves, well, I have to know this because people expect me to know this.
02:26:43.000And if I say that I don't know, then I'm going to lose.
02:26:45.000And look, I made, I don't know, maybe there's some diehard climate.
02:26:48.000You know, somebody can make an argument that says, okay, well, yeah, that's because most people don't follow you for climate change.
02:27:12.000And I don't think it's a control issue in meaning that people are trying to control people, and that people are trying to gain control of one very small factor in our mortality.
02:27:43.000And I think if you look at the history of the world, there's been radical changes before we ever came about.
02:27:50.000Whether it's asteroid impacts or massive fucking ice ages or all kinds of crazy shit that's killed off people from the beginning of fucking people.
02:28:00.000And if you think that switching totally to solar is going to stop all that other shit from happening, you got another thing coming.
02:28:07.000It doesn't mean that solar is not good.
02:28:08.000It doesn't mean that cleaning the air is not good.
02:28:10.000I think these are very important factors.
02:28:11.000But the idea that it's going to save us.
02:28:13.000But that's why I say I think, based on my limited knowledge, with respect to the New Deal and things of that nature, I think some of it, if not more of it, seems to me economically subversive.
02:29:37.000I only know about them in a fascinating body.
02:29:39.000I tend to drink and then watch documentaries on Netflix about World War II and stuff like that.
02:29:47.000I oddly watch a lot of Hitler documentaries because the manner in which the people...
02:29:54.000It's so fascinating in a very scary way.
02:29:57.000It's scary the strong leader, the amount of power a strong leader has over whether it's Kim Jong-un or you know any that's the thing I would keep saying to people when they don't think that all that shit can happen.
02:30:10.000I'm like listen, they're human beings in 2020. Human beings in 2020 are under the control of a military dictatorship.
02:31:37.000When I was working there, I saw a lot of shit.
02:31:40.000And I developed, in a very short period of time, most of the guys that I... I got the job because one of the guys that I trained with at my Taekwondo school was a security guard.
02:32:19.000So we're out there and we almost instantly...
02:32:23.000Develop this us-versus-them mentality almost instantly we'd yell at people when they were doing things wrong We treat them like shit and I recognized that I was like wow, this is weird like instantly I'll become like I've developed this attitude that these people because they didn't want to listen They kept doing things they're not supposed to do and you're supposed to enforce it and you get mad and you do have some power Because you have the security jacket.
02:33:45.000It's just funny because it's like, how quickly, how quickly they relegated themselves to doing the exact same shit That they were critiquing and criticizing.
02:34:58.000And funny, we kind of talked about this the last time I was here.
02:35:01.000And the problem is that when you only watch the end result of your repetition and getting to where you are now, people oversimplify what it is that you do.
02:35:15.000And so what happens is they think they can do it better, even though they haven't engaged in the same level of repetition or thought process to really think it out.
02:35:24.000So what I think is happening is you got all these kids with these grandiose ideas, right?
02:35:29.000They go to these schools and teach them these grandiose ideas from professors telling them, like, this is the way we can do it.
02:36:20.000The Founding Fathers understood that human nature, that if there's a vacuum of power, there's always going to be someone or something willing to fill it.
02:36:30.000And if left unchecked, it will become a black hole of power, which is why they tried to organize our country the way that they did, by separating the powers to serve this check against other entities.
02:36:43.000People don't really appreciate The beauty of that.
02:37:59.000And then what do we do about the places where they want to defund the cops, where they're voting overwhelmingly in Minneapolis to defund the police department?
02:38:20.000And you're right, because there's a lot of people that, like, in the gun debate or in the gun discussion, you know, when we talk about places like California and people are like, oh, it's not fair.
02:39:58.000And I used to say that when I was in law school and I talked about the law, the practice of the law, and the idea that I was like, theoretically, the justice system is perfect.
02:40:08.000It's just executed by imperfect people.
02:40:32.000Now, like I said, people do fall through the cracks, and there are some things that are deteriorating as a result of it, and those things need to be addressed.
02:40:42.000But, by and large, people need to understand that.
02:40:46.000It's 244 years old, or whatever the fuck it is.
02:41:35.000Like, they're not really a corporation that's like free and independent like Apple or, you know, I don't even know how independent they are when you get to a certain size.
02:41:52.000Well, especially when you're dealing with information, like with Google and Apple, and you're collecting so much data, and the government would love to take a look at that stuff.
02:51:17.000Then another shooting will happen, 20. Now, as somebody who's an entrepreneur who can, generally speaking, make their schedule, maybe they may be able to do that.
02:51:31.000There's no way they're going to be able to satisfy that.
02:51:34.000And people don't think about the real implications of that.
02:51:37.000And even then, even from an inner city perspective, people who are talking about policing that we police the inner city too much, well, where do you think they're going to go and enforce these laws?
02:51:53.000If we have more of them, where do you think they're going to enforce them?
02:51:56.000They're not going to Malibu to enforce gun laws.
02:52:01.000They're enforcing them in South Central.
02:52:04.000Like, I mean, that just is what it is.
02:52:06.000So people don't think about the actual real consequences of these laws.
02:52:10.000They look at them and say, oh, well, it's not that bad.
02:53:48.000But I just want to say, I think you're doing a great job.
02:53:50.000And I think, you know, out of all the people that are promoting guns, and you do it in, in my opinion, the most reasonable and well thought out perspective.