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00:04:36.000Especially when you create something exceptional, like if you're an Olympic athlete or you're a world-class athlete or professional athlete, as you continue to move up the ladder of difficulty, so to speak.
00:04:50.000The shorter the window is that you can compete at that level, obviously.
00:04:53.000But everybody's athletic window is limited.
00:04:57.000So the length of time you can be a competitive fighter is, you know, who knows how long.
00:05:03.000I guess I've seen some stats that say over five years it starts to decline.
00:05:08.000Over seven, or around seven, it really starts to take a nosedive.
00:05:11.000Yeah, they say for a pro MMA fighter, it's like you have nine years to compete at a very high level.
00:05:18.000And even then, that nine years is still more towards the tails and not into the middle of it.
00:05:23.000And, I mean, a lot of folks, you'll see them, you'll get to the UFC... They are there for about three, four years, and then even towards that tail end of that four years, it's like they're no longer in the running for any of the major fights.
00:06:07.000I mean, there's all kinds of other factors that just can't be accounted for.
00:06:10.000That's why it's kind of crazy when you see a high-level fighter who's training for a world championship fight and they're in one of those group class environments where there's like 13 other dudes around them.
00:06:31.000Being derived from wrestling, from the jujitsu, from martial arts structured elements, but also the money wasn't there for dedicated trainer-manager types.
00:06:42.000It's like, as soon as the manager construct came into MMA, and I say construct because I don't think most MMA managers are actual managers.
00:06:54.000They find fights and whatever, and they'll get a collective of other fighters under their wings so they can have some sort of collective bargaining by having these other athletes or always being able to shuttle somebody in depending on what a...
00:07:08.000The UFC or some other organization might need, but they're not really overseeing someone's career.
00:07:14.000We should talk about that, like what that means.
00:07:16.000What you're essentially saying is they're not like a boxing manager will slowly build you towards a world title fight and a UFC fighter doesn't really get that opportunity.
00:08:14.000And it lasted as the youngest UFC champion of all time until Jon Jones beat it by a few months or something like that, by age, when he won his title.
00:08:27.000But these management types came into the fold and then they're like, well, you know, we get 33 percent or 20 percent or all these different percentages.
00:10:42.000But there's incredible fighters everywhere, and there's also that process towards graduating a fighter up to their best position and giving them the best experience for that fighter.
00:10:54.000And I was just talking to someone at the UFC the other day about Victor, and he goes, you're doing the right thing with him.
00:12:06.000You just can't come out and immediately win at everything that you're trying to do and you won't come out and immediately be great at everything you do.
00:12:14.000Some things, sure, but it's about the overall It's about your overall growth and where you started and where you end up.
00:12:24.000And I think if you look at the overall talent pool in the world, it used to be that the elite fighters were all either at Pride or at UFC. That's what it used to be.
00:12:36.000But now, like you see when Eddie Alvarez went over to one, he fought that Timothy Natsuyukin.
00:13:06.000Who's fighting he's fighting for the title this weekend against Jose Aldo and Piotr Jan is this badass Russian dude who's fucking vicious and when he first came over the UFC I'm like Jesus Christ where's this guy been?
00:13:17.000It's like you see these guys who are all over the world now, you know, you've seen elite world-class fighters and it's not just the UFC anymore like I firmly believe Douglas Lima is one of the best welterweights on the planet Agreed.
00:14:19.000If you ever come across Gene, if my name comes out of your mouth, he's going to go, Tell him Uncle Gene said thanks for teaching him a Kimura.
00:14:59.000And I mean, if you think about just the level of awareness of elite fighters now, because of YouTube and because of all these different streaming services, I mean, you can watch, you could be anywhere in the world and watch top flight talent.
00:15:15.000There's even amazing guys out there like Jack Slack and Lawrence Kenshin that do breakdowns on specific fights, fighters, and specific techniques.
00:15:25.000I send Jack Slack and Lawrence Kenshin stuff to my team all the time in group chats.
00:15:41.000Those clips are so great, too, because they'll highlight a specific technique, they'll show the KO or the finish, and then they'll break down all the different moving parts.
00:16:16.000This place is an extension of everything that you're trying to create for yourself.
00:16:21.000And that is honestly, whether you have the means to create something like this, or you just have the means to create something really small in your own little apartment.
00:16:39.000And you can't do that if you're insincere.
00:16:42.000You can't do that if you're just trying to be the packaging and not the item.
00:16:47.000Yeah, we were talking about that earlier, that there's too many...
00:16:51.000And I think this is part of the problem with social media, is that people are intoxicated with this idea of having other people think they're awesome.
00:16:59.000So they put out all this stuff to make it look like they're this amazing person and they'll put up these quotes and put up this shit.
00:17:09.000But it's not really what they're into, they just want you to think they're into it.
00:17:17.000One of my biggest pet peeves, and I posted a quote last night, not a quote rather, but an image of Miyamoto Musashi, because I got into the Book of Five Rings again.
00:17:27.000I cannot wait to hear what just criticism somehow came out of nowhere to tell you what a jerk you were, how wrong you are, whatever.
00:17:36.000I don't know if there is any criticism.
00:18:07.000And I didn't say this last night, but this is what I meant when I posted it.
00:18:11.000If you want to take inspiration, there's something about the words of Miyamoto Musashi that are profoundly inspirational.
00:18:19.000Because he's a man who bested over 60 men in one-on-one sword fights.
00:18:24.000So when he's talking about strategy, or he's talking about technique, and he's talking about preparation, and you must research this, you must look into this, and this is how you go about attacking, this is how you play off your opponent's strategy.
00:18:39.000He's talking about life or death with a fucking sword.
00:18:44.000It just comes through in his words, man.
00:18:46.000Even translation from Japanese to English, even though it's 400 years later, there's something about that guy that gives me goosebumps, man, when I read his shit.
00:18:54.000I fell in love with samurai philosophy a long time ago from Nitobe and the Hagakure, and there's even one called...
00:19:10.000I forget the name of it, but it's a really short, succinct book that really nails down some things.
00:19:15.000And I think part of why what they have to say is so...
00:19:21.000So authentic and so real, so to speak, is because it's life or death for them.
00:19:28.000Reading Storm of Seal by Ernst Jünger, and you're reading this guy's take on being in World War I. And it's not that he was never afraid.
00:19:36.000It's not that he didn't understand what war is.
00:19:40.000It's just from his position as a soldier and the way he approached things and the way he even still saw beauty in these moments in living in that part of his life.
00:19:50.000It's clearly somebody that I believe has a good grip on being towards death, as Heidegger would put it.
00:19:58.000Like embracing what it means to be alive and by embracing that, you're also embracing the fact that you are going to die.
00:20:07.000That death is alongside you and you don't know when it's coming.
00:20:10.000And there's no need to because you're not supposed to be thinking about whether or not you're going to die or when it's going to come or anything like that.
00:20:16.000But you need to be thinking about what you're going to do before that time does show up and how you're going to do it and for why.
00:20:23.000How are you finding meaning and fulfillment in life so that when death comes along and tugs on your shirt sleeve, You're like, alright, well this is it.
00:20:33.000Yeah, and those guys, people that you've described, whether it's Musashi or any of those people, what comes out in their words is authenticity because of the fact that they have led these extraordinary lives and they have faced incredible danger.
00:20:48.000They have lived There's something about that where you can genuinely learn from those people, whereas there's a lot of people that really haven't, but they know that people long for those things, so they try to recreate it.
00:21:01.000They try to recreate these quotes, or they try to find some words that will inspire you to get going and seize the moment and make the most of the day and go out there and conquer and kick ass.
00:21:19.000It is attempting to take on – it's presenting the persona of that kind of individual mainly because they know that deep down all of us realize that there's weight to those kind of people.
00:21:30.000And I'm sure Peterson would be like, it's the bloody archetype or something.
00:21:36.000But – Well, he's an example as well.
00:21:39.000I mean when he talks about – whatever he's talking about, he's talking about – I don't know.
00:21:47.000He's talking about it from a place of profound understanding and that resonates like when he critiques Marxism or critiques certain philosophies and certain Certain trends that he sees in social social behavior like he's doing it from a place of profound understanding and that's that's why it resonates with people That's why he became so famous so people think somehow or another that he became so famous because There's an angst in
00:22:18.000a lot of weak men that he tapped into.
00:22:58.000I was just under, I felt like I was under attack all the time for things that I didn't do and things that I, from arguments that I had or accusations.
00:23:06.000I'm like, I don't understand why I am being, this is being offloaded onto me at the time.
00:23:12.000So I start researching and researching and researching because I truly believe, And essentially, like J.S. Mill says, he who understands only one side of the argument, not the other, understands a little of both.
00:23:26.000And so even through all this, I had to come to the fact that as much as if you'd want to take that shallow diagnosis of Peterson...
00:23:38.000It's the same as if you want to take a shallow diagnosis of Marxism.
00:23:42.000These things aren't operating out of complete falsity.
00:24:33.000So if you're going to plant it, you have to plant it in steel boxes and concrete barriers and things to make sure that the bamboo stays only where it's supposed to be.
00:24:42.000Otherwise, it's going to be fucking everywhere and it's going to out-compete and dominate everything else.
00:25:07.000But then when you apply it large scale and then you take into account human nature and how humans find ways to blame others for their own shortcomings and find ways to juke the system and then you wind up with a mess.
00:26:38.000But, you know, I thought Capitol Hill had really jumped the fucking shark a long time ago when I was reading an article about people wanting to be on Capitol Hill so bad that they were willing to live in shared living space scenarios where they're sharing bathrooms and kitchens and all this and paying stupid money for a room.
00:27:44.000But it was a groovy, very densely cultural place.
00:27:49.000And, you know, famous for a lot of things, you know, some things unfortunate, like Mia Zapata getting killed behind the Comet Tavern, but also for many, many great things, too.
00:27:59.000But it would definitely be the place where you would see something like a Chaz pop up.
00:28:04.000It's just that the separation from idea to reality was something like a Chaz, and it's always going to be this case.
00:28:13.000It's always going to be just mountains in between the two.
00:28:16.000The funniest part, I think, for me is watching that altercation video with Raz and his new police stating, we're the police now.
00:30:23.000But watching that, you know, so the side of me is going, see, like, perhaps, you know, a little bit of fisticuffs could make things a little better, you know, especially if we're to talk about the law of mutual combat that exists in Washington.
00:30:36.000Which I think should be national, to be perfectly honest.
00:30:39.000The only problem I have with that is that they let people fight out on the street, which you should be aware that if you get KO'd, you might die.
00:34:03.000What cannabis does is it allows you to have these possibilities that you can open these doors or not, but they're there.
00:34:12.000If you're high, if you've been doing your act and you're doing stand-up four or five nights a week and you're really in the groove, you're honed, and you're not going to get thrown off by some pot, you know what you're talking about.
00:34:23.000And especially if you smoke pot a lot.
00:34:25.000But what pot does do is it gets you to these places where you might not have gotten before.
00:34:32.000Like, you go, who the fuck is judging whiskey?
00:34:59.000You just never know what's going to come with any sort of alteration to your mind state.
00:35:04.000It also makes stand-up a little more dangerous, so it gets you a little scared, and that is also good because it opens up possibilities and it allows you to stay sharp because you're a little nervous.
00:35:17.000I've been doing stand-up for 31 years.
00:35:19.000When I go on stage, it's kind of normal.
00:35:21.000Even last weekend I did the Houston Improv.
00:37:58.000On winter vacation from the University of Montana, one of my wrestling coaches called me up, and AMC Pancration was a pro gym that had pro fighters, and they were out there, and I knew of them, but this was 1996, so this shit was still real DIY,
00:40:01.000When you get started, it felt like my first ever wrestling match to some degree, and everything kind of turned into tunnel vision.
00:40:07.000And it's a strange feeling about how everything seems to be going a million miles an hour.
00:40:15.000And you watch it back in reverse, and you're like, oh my god, there was actually a lot of time in between segment A to segment B. And I do remember my first wrestling match, especially because I fucking head and arm this guy who had already placed in the district.
00:40:30.000So, or the city, whatever, in Metro, we call it.
00:41:19.000It's like you enter into a world where all of a sudden the sky looks a different color, your hands don't move the right way, you hesitate, you're thinking too much.
00:41:30.000It's weird to watch people enter into that world for the first time.
00:41:34.000I think that part of it, I would say, is that we're too disconnected from things associated to that state.
00:41:41.000Not just danger, but just that- Chaos.
00:42:43.000So I'm sitting there, and as someone being so into Nietzsche, I started to look at it as, this is tapping into...
00:42:50.000Like your highest state of being, so to speak.
00:42:54.000So when I'm in the ring, I feel like...
00:42:58.000Things that are attached to me from modern and general living are removed.
00:43:03.000I feel like it is the most freeing, alive moment in my life.
00:43:09.000And as I can look back, even to that wrestling match, even to getting into fistfights as a little kid, there was always something about me that was drawn to it.
00:43:16.000Not just because I wanted to conquer and crush skulls, but that I literally...
00:43:22.000I could not get enough of the feeling of aliveness from it.
00:43:26.000And it wasn't just that it was dangerous.
00:44:19.000And everything requires so much attention and so much focus that when you go back to regular life, that's the thing that fighters have a really difficult time with.
00:45:44.000But not everybody's built the same to do the same things.
00:45:47.000Just as much as my way of abstract thinking, if I sit down with Eric Weinstein, And he leaves me behind if he takes certain subjects.
00:45:55.000I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm just going to be along for the ride because my brain can't operate on the same level in this fashion that you can.
00:46:03.000But you haven't spent time in that realm.
00:46:24.000Yeah, so it was Eric I was talking to because he's always interested for my take on violence and how violence relates to humanity and how it relates to being.
00:46:35.000I listened to his podcast with Jocko, and I would say, I mean, it was really great, and I've never met Jocko, but he sounds like a really awesome dude.
00:46:47.000But I said to Eric, I go, one of the things that I saw that was kind of different here in the way that both me and Jocko seem to approach this is that he's so very clinical about it, very regimented, and I understand that because if he's In a military presence,
00:47:03.000you can't just have a guy who's soaking himself in the enemy's blood and running around the battlefield screaming at the top of his lungs.
00:47:20.000Especially in 2020. Yeah, especially in 2020 when they went after Gurkha soldiers, Nepalese soldiers who were sent on a kill mission to grab some sort of extremist.
00:47:34.000And they were like, well, we want proof too.
00:48:53.000I don't know the history of why the blade takes on that shape, but I can say that the shape of the blade, the way it's designed, is— It's one of the greatest chopping devices you will ever come across because of the angle in the blade and the way that it widens out towards the tip.
00:49:11.000It creates this belly of cutting pressure that when you swing that fucker, it just whacks right through anything.
00:50:52.000So they don't have the exact same design, I'll give you that.
00:50:54.000With the way that they have designed the shape of the edge itself.
00:51:01.000And the way that they refine their point with that sort of wedged tip.
00:51:07.000But scimitars are curved also for their cutting ability and also for when you're on horse.
00:51:12.000If you come by and you swing that curved blade, when it starts to make bite as you're continuing to go through, it transfers that energy across the blade in such a way that it doesn't tear your arm off your horse.
00:51:24.000Imagine if there was a YouTube video of every person who ever died by the hand of a sword, just from the beginning of time, just chop, [...
00:52:43.000You know, even the better person, I don't necessarily even mean better than Ben, I just mean the better person as a general, has to look at that which, even if you dislike it, you hate the way Ben speaks and what he has to say, but that doesn't take away from what he's done.
00:53:14.000When he was the Bellator champion, I mean, they had a problem in that his style, no one could defeat him.
00:53:20.000And it wasn't fun to watch for people who didn't like MMA. Unfortunately, Ben's finishing capabilities did not...
00:53:28.000Did not grow or did not It didn't grow to the same level that his wrestling ability was.
00:53:37.000But it did when he went to 1FC. It got much better, but...
00:53:40.000Because they allowed him to do some shit you couldn't do over in Bellator, like knee a downed opponent in the head.
00:53:45.000Sure, but I mean, Ben just should have been subbing guys left and right in Bellator, but he just didn't quite have it.
00:53:50.000Now, and my opinion always was, at least from watching it, if you're this inventive of a funk wrestler in collegiate wrestling and what have you, in international wrestling, I know you could be a literal submission machine.
00:54:06.000It had to be just approach, maybe pressure to just get those wins.
00:54:12.000I mean, there is an issue with, I think, some of the wrestlers coming in and thinking about the game structure of wrestling and being like, okay, so if I win this five minutes, then I'll give him the next two minutes and then I'll take three minutes.
00:54:26.000They're thinking about how to win a match.
00:55:05.000Another thing to take into consideration for people who are Ben Askren haters, Ben Askren needs a hip replacement, and he's needing one for a while.
00:55:12.000His hip was pretty fucked up over the last year and a half of his career.
00:55:17.000I think he's talking about it now, but he definitely talked about it to me.
00:59:43.000I mean, mace swinging and club swinging, especially mace swinging for Greg, are part and parcel to the entire foundational aspect of their training stuff.
01:01:29.000All I want, all that's important to me is to try and understand what it is from how you see it and see what I can do to take that and be better and to take your criticism and your eyes and your experience and the way you see it so that I can use it to make myself a better fighter.
01:01:45.000And he looked at me and he just went, huh.
01:01:48.000And then he just started showing me stuff and he would call me and give me workouts and see how I'm doing and Honestly, not being able to spend more time with Carl and even, to an extension, Billy Robinson, even though I got to train under him for years and years and years in Japan.
01:02:26.000Getting real rambunctious, and Carl just laughing, smiling, even though he knows that Inoki's been just handicapped, like, oh, you can't throw him, you can't put submissions on him, you can't do this, you can't do that.
01:02:39.000But it's crazy that they allowed leg kicks.
01:03:46.000And I'm like, actually, and Oki is one of my mentors.
01:03:50.000He's helped train me in professional wrestling and was part of the reason why I was in New Japan Pro Wrestling.
01:03:56.000It's just such a crazy moment that they decided to actually do that match where Ali is there with boxing gloves on and Inoki is kicking him in the legs.
01:07:34.000It's just, everybody talks about the UFC and MMA, like the people that don't like grappling, like, oh, I hate it when they go to the ground.
01:08:03.0002001. 2001. So for probably the first 10 years of UFC, the highlight stuff around every event, around every promotional opportunity around UFC, what is it?
01:09:24.000You need to have a better scoring system, and you need to get rid of incompetence, and then when you go to other states, you need to take control of the situation.
01:09:31.000And accountability to the scoring, too.
01:09:45.000So if you have win bonuses and, you know, if a guy comes in and he's getting 50, and then if he wins, he gets another 50, you stole $50,000 from that guy by giving him incompetent judging.
01:10:43.000And that's a lot of ways the UFC style of pricing, which seems to be kind of the general model for MMA, is that you get $5 to fight and $5 to win for a guy that you might have paid him $8 to just fight.
01:12:20.000So if I'm running a company, if I hire somebody, if I put them on a long-term exclusive deal, I do it because I believe in them.
01:12:30.000Now, there may be ups and downs and what have you, and I could make a mistake and I'll just have to take that.
01:12:35.000But I want this individual to be able to go out there and give me absolutely everything they have and know that they're not going to be punished.
01:12:46.000And so I'm going to pay them appropriately.
01:12:48.000Now, on the flip side of things, if I'm running something as big as the UFC, I'm going to just have a lot of one-off deals on the lower levels until I see that person that I think, I'm going to invest in this person.
01:13:38.000And at the same time, nobody wants to create the proper accountability structure for judging, either.
01:13:44.000Or even for some of these athletic commission apparatus, for all these things.
01:13:51.000Which is, when you talk about Chaz and all these things and about universality, everybody, whether they're voting left, right, middle, doesn't matter.
01:14:01.000Everybody, however they fall on any side of any of this shit, Everybody knows, and I think that part of this big protest slash riot at times slash what have you, is that everyone knows that a lot of these state and these bureaucratic structures aren't unaccountable.
01:14:21.000And the ability to affect them, to make them accountable, is also minimal, if potentially impossible.
01:14:30.000And then on top of that, What is the thing that you see as the apparatus that you interact with and interacts with you the most and directly?
01:15:10.000Because what you're seeing with the justice system, when people who live in the hood see police brutality over and over and over again and nothing ever happens, and then finally the world pays attention.
01:16:41.000You know, it's been really interesting to me to see people come out And try to – I don't know if they're necessarily trying to justify, but they're definitely taking the side of trying to demonize George.
01:16:54.000And I'm like – because of his previous stuff about like the home invasion with the pointing a gun at a pregnant woman's belly or he's on drugs and what have you.
01:17:04.000You don't even realize this, but you just made the greatest argument for why he shouldn't be dead.
01:17:09.000Because whether you've done something terrible or you've been the best person ever, you need to get the same amount of justice as anybody else.
01:17:22.000That you need to be, if you have to be put into cuffs or anything like that, if you have to be brought in, whether you did XYZ or you did the nicest thing ever and you just had this one slip up that was real...
01:17:34.000It has to be the same across the board.
01:17:36.000That is the great argument that why police have to be held far more accountable than your average citizenry.
01:17:45.000And that means not to just Land a bunch of shit on top of their head and like, live up to this, you know, dumb fuck.
01:17:53.000No, it's why you need to prepare them and help them and foster them to be able to be capable.
01:18:00.000Like, who's ever going to be capable of doing anything if you don't give them the right support?
01:18:04.000I can't send in some amateur, just started, whatever fighter to go out there and fight Ben Askren.
01:18:16.000Over time, maybe I can get them to the position and maybe they'll never be capable of being able to fight a Ben Askren, or maybe they're not capable of being a police officer, but also maybe they're not capable of being a lot of things, but there is something that they are capable for.
01:18:29.000But when that leaves the realm of my responsibility, then that's a different story.
01:18:33.000Well, when Jocko was on the podcast, and obviously Jocko has a deep level experience at training people in war, I mean, in training Navy SEALs, training the elite of the elite.
01:18:43.000And he said they should be doing 20% of all their time on the job training.
01:19:41.000You know, the dude that freaked out, he was getting arrested and he was drunk at his car and what have you, and then he finds out he's actually going to be taken in for this DUI. Like, oh shit, steal the taser.
01:19:54.000Okay, I get all that, but as soon as you fucked up and he got away and his back's due, you can't shoot him.
01:20:01.000Well, I think their point is that he was shooting the taser while he was turned around, and when they shot him, he was pointing the taser at them.
01:20:42.000Someone had a real good point that you shouldn't call the police for something like that in the first place.
01:20:46.000Because the person is drunk and they're asleep in their car and there should be someone you can call where that person knows they're not going to get arrested.
01:20:54.000Someone says, listen, man, we're going to get you an Uber.
01:21:30.000It's always, everybody wants to met out their responsibilities to something else.
01:21:36.000Well, the system is structured that way.
01:21:37.000I mean, if you are in an office and you have a dispute with someone and you sit down and want to talk to them person to person, you're putting yourself in a handicap.
01:21:45.000If you have a real dispute with a person, like say if someone did something to you that you found questionable or against the rules, like you're incentivized to contact HR. Yeah, they really push that.
01:22:51.000And then you're doing it together and you're enjoying it.
01:22:53.000Yeah, there's problems, but you enjoy communicating and working together.
01:22:58.000If you're a person, you want to make a living, you have to join a cooperative venture that...
01:23:03.000You know, you're in an office with people that you might not ever hang out with in real life.
01:23:08.000And then when you get in coffee, some creepy fuck says some weird shit about your ass, and you're like, God damn it.
01:23:14.000And you're a woman, and you have to deal with this, like, you're walking out to your car, and he's asking you to go to dinner with him or something.
01:23:39.000There's so many weak guys that would – when a woman will – like I was reading this thing about the Unabomber, about one of the things that happened with the Unabomber with his brother.
01:23:49.000The brother had – He had to chastise the Unabomber, because the Unabomber, when Ted Kaczynski, he had this issue with a woman where he was interested in her, and she wasn't interested in him.
01:24:00.000And when she wasn't interested in him anymore, he started leaving all these fucked up notes for her, saying horrible shit to her, and the brother had to like...
01:24:52.000You know, it's hard enough for men and women to try and figure out how to interact with each other in a space to even get in each other's pants, to create anything of value.
01:26:11.000All these different things are happening.
01:26:12.000I'm like – to me, I just thought, oh, so you started being more towards a more natural state of being, you know, being physical, being active.
01:26:21.000Now, I understand that this is in a very controlled way.
01:26:26.000It's not like you're running around trying to get an elk because if you don't, your tribe's going to die.
01:27:17.000But that doesn't necessarily mean even that that can be sufficient or that relationship can then go towards something more long-term and firm, right?
01:27:30.000Which, you know, we're so great at lying to ourselves and fooling ourselves all the time.
01:27:35.000Like, oh, I'm so intense with this person and we hooked up and this and that and then you start getting together and then it's a shit show.
01:27:46.000You know, because you thought that just because you guys had this one metric at which you guys were both very intense, that that would cover for everything else.
01:27:55.000And it's like, well, no, that's not how relationships are built.
01:27:58.000Humans have a lot of fucking things that need to be checked.
01:28:03.000Hey, there's a great website or a great YouTube that I send all of my friends and all of my fighters, for sure, called Academy of Ideas.
01:28:12.000And this dude has these awesome lectures on all kinds of things dealing with life and current climate stuff and all these different things, but all taking pieces and building these lectures around philosophers and people.
01:28:29.000Throughout historical, historically correct lens, or not historically correct, but, you know, going through papers and pieces by all these people throughout time.
01:28:38.000And it's been really, you know, things like that.
01:28:42.000I mean, we need things to help us with orientation in such an absurd world.
01:28:48.000And we take for granted that things are just microphones and cameras, and I don't know how many tens of people are going to watch this because I'm on the show, but...
01:30:21.000It's like a name brand thing where people really get into like Tito's or something like that?
01:30:26.000Yeah, well, you know, I would say research Rennie Girard and the medic desire for that kind of thing.
01:30:32.000So you see somebody else is like, well, I have to have the, you know, Celebrity Vodka A because what have you.
01:30:39.000And someone else goes, oh, oh, they like Celebrity Vodka A. Well, if they like Celebrity Vodka A, Celebrity Vodka A must be the vodka to buy.
01:30:46.000And someone else sees that and then so on and so forth.
01:30:49.000And now people are like, we have to have Celebrity Vodka A because it's what other people like.
01:30:53.000I remember P. Diddy had a vodka, right?
01:34:50.000Working at restaurants for a long time, we had to do wine tastings, and one of the times the note they told us to look for was cat piss in the wine.
01:38:08.000So we got these tiny little glasses, and what they're pouring in it is this stuff called Baiju, this Chinese wine, or this Chinese fermented liquor.
01:38:19.000And I'm like, ooh, well, that's got a nose on it.
01:38:22.000And I drank it, and I'm just like, ugh, what the...
01:38:28.000But it's the kind of thing that – this is probably a pretty – this is a real expensive one they're telling me and they just keep pouring ones.
01:38:34.000And at some point Alyssa goes, dude, I can smell that shit from here.
01:39:39.000I've heard people describe it as it tastes like something you clean a carburetor with.
01:39:44.000It's fermented sorghum and other stuff.
01:39:49.000There's some weird tastes that cultures have almost rituals with.
01:39:55.000For Iceland, they're into that fermented shark.
01:40:00.000Bourdain told me it was the single most disgusting food he ever ate.
01:40:04.000I remember being on tour in Japan for New Japan Pro Wrestling and having...
01:40:08.000So it's pretty common that as you go from town to town, you would then go out and you'd be taken out by sponsors for the town, the local sponsors or maybe whoever put the event on, what have you.
01:40:19.000And so I'd get taken out to these restaurants and they would always order stuff like cow, intestines.
01:40:26.000There's four different types that are raw or this or that.
01:42:47.000And I tell Ludo, well, he goes, well, we have a huge Asian clientele that loves to come to these Ludo Bites and they love the uni-derived stuff.
01:42:54.000I go, it must be just, you know, a palate thing.
01:44:26.000A banya is basically just like a big sauna.
01:44:29.000But it's a traditional setup where they have an oven with rocks and stone, and they will throw water over the stones and things like that.
01:44:41.000It's not a dry one like a finish, but...
01:44:45.000It's similar to any other sort of sauna setups as you can come across, but it's not a steam room.
01:44:49.000And that's also famous for they have a process where they take these bundles of tree branches with leaves and everything on them and They'll use white oak, eucalyptus,
01:46:37.000My brain was in a different place, dude.
01:46:39.000And as you can relate, when you're sitting in those things, and it's pretty fucking hot, and you're trying to get through it, like, sometimes you're just...
01:47:03.000Now this motherfucker is pretending to be a fucking helicopter, spinning around the room.
01:47:08.000He's like a Beyonce fucking dance number, getting all this hot air blown all over you, like flying, caressing it up your taint, all this shit.
01:49:34.000It basically came down to the fact that Apple is too much in charge of your hardware and your software.
01:49:40.000The minute the iPhone came out, I was like, cool phone, but you're telling me I've got to pay you more money to expand my memory or my storage capacity when I have a fucking memory card?
01:49:54.000Do you think that I don't know if that exists?
01:52:12.000I have Spotify, which, by the way, I just took over what used to be the Adrenaline Workout Spotify playlist, and now it is the War Masters Workout.
01:52:45.000Yeah, so I now, you have the War Masters workout.
01:52:48.000So if you guys are out there and you want to be fueled by the incredibly powerful thing that is metal, if you want to get some serious gains.
01:53:28.000My buddy to the right, that's Andy Williams.
01:53:30.000He's in AEW as a pro wrestler right now as well.
01:53:33.000You see, you know, Keith, all the every time my guy goes.
01:53:36.000Keith's up there just like, don't crush me while I'm up here trying to sing.
01:53:41.000There's this chick who must have been this tiny little blonde thing who maybe weighed 110 pounds on her best day, who I chucked her once, and then she comes back.
01:53:53.000She goes, I'm going to do it while holding this beer the whole fucking time.
01:53:56.000And mind you, it was a can, but still...
01:53:59.000I have a picture that I got from someone where she's launched into the air.
01:55:14.000And you know, there's a challenge with...
01:55:16.000I came on here a long time ago and I said, life gives you the opportunity to grow in as many ways as you want to choose to.
01:55:24.000You didn't come out of the womb and just start shooting arrows.
01:55:28.000It was something you decided you wanted to do.
01:55:30.000And as you went through life, Joe Rogan's journey brought him to all these different things.
01:55:35.000And from those, he acquired new things, new endeavors, but all these things required growth, required having to suck or whatever or deal with new things to begin with.
01:56:34.000What is the difference between Gritz corn?
01:56:35.000The quality of the corn kernels itself and the way they're cut.
01:56:40.000To begin with, the way they're initially milled, which leaves them all in big kernels, but it exposes the sugars in such a way that when we go and we put it out there in the smoker, that this kernel of corn gets hit.
01:56:53.000The smoke hits all of it and brings all these sugars to the surface.
01:56:56.000So you start off with the grits corn, and then before anything happens, it goes into the smoker.
01:57:24.000In fact, one of my students, Mary, works in microbiology, so I want to bring her up to try and mentor under him a little bit and learn some shit.
01:58:15.000So it was always Warbringer bourbon even before the Warmaster edition?
01:58:19.000I think it was because it was Warbringer.
01:58:21.000Alfred, one of the investors, came to me and said, hey, we could make this fucking thing that's going to, you know, Conor McGregor's got a whiskey in this.
02:03:11.000Or you could take the approach of every bottle of this shit that goes out and gets into someone's hands and touches their lips is an extension of me and my word.
02:04:08.000There's a difference between the mindset of groups and the mindset of the individual.
02:04:15.000I'm not one to be such a hardcore individualist where I think the individual is I mean, I believe it is the starting point of everything, but it's not the end point of everything.
02:04:26.000And we're made to be social creatures.
02:04:29.000Exiling somebody out of a tribe way back when was tantamount to basically giving them a death sentence.
02:04:35.000And they've said that somebody being in isolation away from other people can, at a point, become more detrimental than even being an alcoholic.
02:04:45.000I don't know how they came up with that metric, how that lined up per se, but I know that by not...
02:04:50.000Being attached to not having proper interaction with others is degradation to your sense of being and it is incredibly harmful to you.
02:05:02.000So we're made to be in groups and we're also made to be individuals.
02:05:06.000Now, I would say that the makeup of what you bring into a group is also related to what you create as an individual.
02:05:13.000If you come in as a fully formed, healthy, capable individual, then you're only going to be somebody who could potentially, as long as you can keep what's important about yourself, you're only going to be a benefit to such a group.
02:05:29.000That's what's difficult for people, though, is to have what's called personal sovereignty, to be able to be yourself in a group.
02:05:52.000Like, sometimes there's benefit to change.
02:05:54.000I mean, there's benefit to recognizing that these ideas that you have, in a lot of cases, they're really just sort of a defense mechanism and they've sort of shielded you from growth.
02:06:05.000And then maybe you run into new people that have new ideas and these ideas resonate with you in a different way and you go, Okay, well now I'm faced with this truth that I can't ignore, that my previous conceptions of the world were twisted in some sort of a way.
02:06:22.000How often do you come across people that will fight you tooth and nail to the death to hold on to those preconceived notions?
02:07:16.000They're doing all these different things for different reasons.
02:07:17.000But none of it is really for your own...
02:07:20.000Betterment of understanding and to be safer and healthier.
02:07:24.000Or even just to say, we still don't know yet because we just don't have the data.
02:07:29.000And people fight tooth and nail over this shit because there's so many people that use the current media apparatus as their mainstream sense-making apparatus.
02:07:39.000And if you tear that away from them...
02:07:42.000Now they have to sit back and go, what do I really know?
02:07:45.000What is the reality of what I think truth is?
02:07:49.000What is the metric upon understanding now that you've just shown me that...
02:07:55.000And of course, even at its best, of course media is going to be faulty at times because it's just made up of people.
02:08:11.000There's also a problem with mainstream media, and it's the same problem that we have with the police.
02:08:17.000You're giving people an inordinate amount of power.
02:08:19.000And when you give people that amount of power, they don't want to ever let it go.
02:08:24.000And they don't ever want to say they're wrong, and they don't ever want to admit fault, and they don't ever want to open the door to nuance.
02:08:32.000And that's what you see with whether it's CNN or Fox News or any of these motherfuckers.
02:08:37.000They have this idea that they've been selling you, whether it's this idea about Russia, whether it's the idea about COVID, whether it's the idea about Trump, whether it's the idea about Biden.
02:08:47.000I mean, they're selling you some shit And it's very, very difficult to get an unbiased perspective on the world.
02:08:59.000They would write all this kind of completely disingenuous, just narrative-driven bullshit around you.
02:09:06.000A person who brings people on and has conversations and tries to flourish that idea of...
02:09:16.000The marketplace of ideas, like having conversations and trying to earnestly and sincerely explore things and try to have a better grip on the world and try to better orient themselves towards just knowing and knowledge, in addition to even having a fucking good time about it, being here.
02:09:33.000When someone reaches a point where they're interacting with too many people and they have this potential to really influence things.
02:09:41.000In terms of the political process, in terms of the way people view things, that becomes very dangerous for people that have a different perspective on things or people that are connected to a traditional machine.
02:10:20.000I understand why people would attack me, and I understand why you'd even look at very small things that are taken out of context and develop your own perception of me that's inaccurate.
02:10:51.000On a personal level, I can relate to that, yes.
02:10:53.000If this world was logical, a person like me wouldn't have no place where someone just comes from doing some live stream on a fucking laptop and then ten years later has hundreds of millions of downloads.
02:11:35.000None of it has changed over the oldest religious texts, the oldest historical things we can find, the stories that exist, the myths, all these things.
02:11:43.000This is the same shit over and over and over again.
02:11:45.000The first time I ever saw that was reading the Hagakure and seeing that the complaints and the issues, the criticisms that this monk, who was a former samurai, had of his current era in the 19th century, the same criticisms and problems and the same...
02:12:33.000I don't buy that concept at all because history would look so much radically different, but it fucking doesn't.
02:12:39.000And I've written you so many times, and at times whoever has your old number, who's probably incredibly confused about what the fuck is this guy talking about, but about how I think a person like you is critical.
02:12:57.000Towards the interaction of the current paradigm is.
02:13:05.000Because right, wrong, whatever your personal opinion is, is whatever, it's the fact of creating the ability for people to get out here and speak.
02:13:15.000Tulsi Gabbard and Bernie Sanders in a place to feel more open.
02:13:21.000And I'll say as politicians, they probably were as open as they could be, but they're fucking politicians in this current paradigm of the Western politician.
02:13:32.000Who knows how legitimately sincere any of those fuckers are.
02:13:36.000This has been probably the only place that you could have had someone like that and allowed it to that window into their least politician self.
02:13:46.000I got to sit here and listen to Andrew Yang talk about UBI and be like, nah, dude, I don't fucking buy it.
02:14:00.000Or it's just a matter of not being so pent up on, oh God, well my narrative, my ideology, my fucking, I gotta tribalize all this into such a degree that I have to tear down everything else around me so that mine can exist.
02:14:14.000And that even goes with this bourbon or anything I do.
02:14:18.000Like, I don't need to cut other things down for mine to rise to, for other people to enjoy it.
02:14:25.000You don't have to tear apart the mainstream media for yours to exist.
02:14:34.000Mind you, the mainstream media tries to destroy you all the time.
02:14:38.000But I think it's just players in the media.
02:14:41.000The media itself is just a pathway for people to express themselves.
02:15:18.000How many times has anybody worked in a place where they have management that is so divorced from the creative or from the actuality of creating a product or whatever the job role is and yet these people are making decisions all the time?
02:15:36.000And bleeding into telling people how to do their job instead of managing people to be able to be best at their job.
02:15:43.000Well, they're invested in it as well because they have mortgages and they have bills and they want the money to keep rolling in.
02:15:49.000So their idea is to make sure that whatever this thing that they're doing, whether it's a newspaper or whether it's a television show, they want to make sure that they stay in the most wide mainstream of lanes.
02:16:03.000It's going to bring in the most money.
02:16:05.000And that's the weird part about media in general, is that it's motivated by people that are trying to seek a profit.
02:16:44.000Somebody who is trans or what have you might show up for a job that you need filled, and somehow you'd be like, well, because you're trans, you can't...
02:16:52.000No, if they're capable of doing the job, you hire the fucking person.
02:16:55.000I agree, but the way it looks in terms of optics, people feel like they need to hire X amount of Asian people and X amount of this people, and there's a weird...
02:17:10.000It's a horrible heuristic saying that the makeup of somebody's external or the external makeup of a company somehow has any real indication of its actual quality and character.
02:17:24.000Well, it's the lack of diversity is an assumption of prejudice.
02:18:20.000There's all these different scenarios that can lay themselves out.
02:18:23.000Some of it can even be perhaps the aggressiveness of men towards acquiring certain positions versus maybe a more subtle approach a woman might take.
02:18:35.000That's the argument about why women don't make as much money.
02:18:39.000One of the things I like about when Peterson brings that up is, and people always neglect this, is he goes, It almost seems as if really that perhaps women are just fucking smarter than us.
02:18:52.000They're like, oh, why be a maniac that only lives for this job?
02:18:56.000Instead, how about I be a person that does all these other fulfilling things in their life instead of driving myself into this insane, near single-minded obsession?
02:19:19.000And it's a lot easier to exchange money with people than to exchange livestock, fucking, I don't know, giant buildings and pieces of stone.
02:19:28.000What are you going to fucking carry around?
02:20:14.000So Bill and Wanda Goldberg and Michael Jai White and Gillian.
02:20:20.000There are two couples with families that I look at them and I think, this is proof that this is a thing that is creatable.
02:20:31.000You can have a beautiful, amazing family and have a great relationship and you can continue to create and make great things and you can really have it all.
02:20:47.000I want to be able to create my own sort of tribe around that from a familial sense.
02:20:54.000And I want to bring a child into the world and pass along all that has been given, and I say given, to me by all these amazing people and all the amazing relationships and experiences that I've acquired throughout life.
02:21:07.000And I try to do that with my so-called quote-unquote kids, my students.
02:21:12.000And I impart these This lineage down to them, these experiences, this knowledge, I give to them, and I give to my friends, and I do as much as I can to keep the flame alive.
02:21:23.000Are you trying to tell me you got baby fever?
02:22:48.000You know, hats off to the UFC for keeping people employed.
02:22:52.000And this isn't to knock at Bellator either, because I'm sure they have their reason and their rationale for running their business the way that they do.
02:23:00.000But the UFC found a way that they could create the opportunity to keep people working, so to speak.
02:24:16.000Combat sports is such an integrated part of Japanese culture, be it doing judo or karate or something like that, just in grade school or middle school.
02:24:25.000I remember watching someone pass the guard and everyone, oh, clap.
02:25:19.000No, no, no, because there's something about a Conor McGregor fight at the fucking sold-out T-Mobile Arena where everybody goes apeshit and Sinead O'Connor singing and there's blue smoke everywhere or green smoke everywhere.
02:25:30.000There's something wild about that, too, where it's a spectacle.
02:25:34.000But there's something uniquely raw about these Apex fights, where they have them at the Apex Center, and the one we did won in Florida as well.
02:25:43.000There's something uniquely raw about no crowd.
02:26:00.000Well, I mean, when you have a crowd, again, like when a man loses his mind and gains another, as this crowd starts to surge, you get pulled into it.
02:26:09.000So if you've got a protest and you're out here to say, like, hey, fucking get your shit together, and then someone starts lighting off fireworks in the middle of your crowd, or someone starts turning it into, hey, get your shit together, hey, we're going to push your shit in, Right.
02:27:21.000In general, just open up to when fights can be a thing.
02:27:26.000Well, one of the interesting things that seems to be happening, and I've been reading a lot about this, is one of the things that the CDC, the death rate of COVID has dropped so low, it's in consideration for being removed from pandemic status.
02:27:42.000Yeah, so I think what's happening is younger people are getting it now because a lot of people, believe it or not, got it because of the protest.
02:28:53.000Head distiller, David, used to work in infectious disease, and he told me about the structure of the disease itself and why is soap and water so effective.
02:29:02.000Well, it emulsifies the fats around the virus itself and it breaks it down.
02:29:26.000And then when you talk about spikes...
02:29:28.000So that thing, one of the things that really was in my mind when I was talking about people fighting tooth and nail to defend their use of mainstream media as their de facto sense-making apparatus is that...
02:29:43.000I was posting stuff about wearing masks.
02:29:45.000And by the way, all the people that I listened to who were giving me information, either stuff coming straight past the firewall in China, like weird Twitter accounts and YouTubers and whatever, I had my supplies Right.
02:30:32.000But when I can wipe my ass, you'll be, you know, let's see what you do and let's see how much your cat likes it when you've got no more toilet paper left over.
02:30:42.000You're fucking using your cat to wipe your ass.
02:30:44.000Well, that's not what I'm worried about.
02:31:01.000Look, fuckface, I didn't say N95 mask, which, by the way, there's also N99, and there's also P95 and P99, and you don't even understand the classification of masks, and now you're going to fucking tell me when I've already done the research, and I know what the difference is.
02:31:15.000And now you're going to just fucking put cloth over your face.
02:32:20.000It's the same reason why when you have...
02:32:24.000You have a natural disaster coupled with a nuclear issue like the tsunami, Fukushima, that the older people will come up and go, okay, hey, you younger guys, you've got families,
02:32:39.000you've not lived as long as us, leave.
02:33:50.000The people that live in the United States in 2020 are not.
02:33:53.000But they're just humans on Earth during the same time, and there's styles of living.
02:33:59.000It's a weird way to look at it, but if you look at it in terms of styles of living, there are styles of living.
02:34:05.000And these styles of living, whether you're in a cult, or whether you're in a commune, or whether you're a part of a Republican town, or whether you're living in Chaz before they tore it down, there's styles of living.
02:34:19.000And some styles are far more problematic than others.
02:34:23.000And the style of living that we should really be worried about is top-down power.
02:34:27.000One person, like a Kim Jong-un, who's running the whole fucking show, and if you don't cry when his dad dies, you have to go to jail for six months.
02:36:27.000And do you attribute your time in Japan for like your sensitivity to that?
02:36:31.000That and just what I understand, what little I will say I understand from even reading people like Nassim Taleb or Balaji Srinivasan or epidemiologists or talking to my head distiller or my student Mary who literally works on COVID machines in a microbiology lab.
02:37:04.000Now, I know that they've been studying Chinese horseshoe bat coronaviruses since like 2015, or maybe even sooner than that, especially after the issue that the world had with SARS. So, of course, it starts to become a priority.
02:37:20.000What I don't know, I'm not going to just assume that things will just be fucking fine.
02:37:25.000That's just not a way I can approach things.
02:37:27.000What I have to do is, what I can take on responsibility for myself, okay, that's mine.
02:37:33.000But for other people, different story.
02:37:36.000And when I can do something as simple as wear a mask and be in public, I'm not damaging.
02:37:43.000I'm insuring myself and others from hardly doing anything.
02:37:47.000Well, we also talked about before the podcast, you take the necessary precautions to protect your own health in terms of supplementation, in terms of...
02:37:57.000And following up on any kind of studies and just any previous understanding of supplementation in regards to other viruses and infection and things like that.
02:38:32.000When the shit hit the fan, the big fear was that this was going to be something that we really had to worry about that was going to kill a giant percentage.
02:38:46.000But for a while there, what I would do is, when I would leave the house, I had my outdoor clothes and my indoor clothes.
02:38:54.000When I came back in the house, I took all my shit off in my little foyer, put it in the corner, Cleaned, took a shower, cleaned up, then put on my indoor clothes.
02:39:04.000To make sure that if I was an issue, all right, I don't know what this virus can or will do, but I'm going to avoid bringing it into my house as best as possible.
02:39:21.000It's real, but it's gnarly to certain people.
02:39:25.000I have a few friends where it was nothing.
02:39:29.000To be honest, I think I already had it.
02:39:32.000We're going to find out in 25 minutes.
02:39:35.000I think that, to be honest, I really believe there's several strains.
02:39:40.000I've read that, but it only makes sense.
02:39:42.000There may be a few strains for sure, although...
02:39:45.000From what sources I have, coronaviruses are not the kind of thing that mutates very much, and what they're more likely to do is become more benign and not more aggressive.
02:39:58.000I have heard that, but I also have heard that the strain in India is so vastly different than the strain here that if they develop a vaccine for the strain that's in North America, it literally won't work for what's in India.
02:41:34.000Or even sitting at home and people having to sit there and basically be in the mirror All day long with themselves.
02:41:42.000And how many people are really – how many people are really built upon the foundational tools of like fulfilling meaningful things?
02:41:54.000Like things that – I don't want to die.
02:42:00.000Tomorrow, today, not even five years from now, not ten.
02:42:03.000Hell, if given the chance, I would fucking live a thousand years if I could because I think that this world is so fucking amazing that there is...
02:42:12.000I don't think I could learn all the languages, eat all the foods, even the ones I don't like, see all the mountains, all the architecture, meet all the people, all the cultures, all the fucking everything that exists in this just glorious fucking amazing place.
02:42:44.00010-year-old me would just have fucking had an aneurysm, thinking that this was ever going to be the way his life turned out, considering what an outcasted, pushed aside, bullied, fucked with...
02:43:00.000I'm a really sort of twisted up, confused young lad and getting to where I am now and I can leave this place and die and my life has been fucking great.
02:45:04.000If there's no risk, if there's no struggle, there's no overcoming.
02:45:08.000And, you know, it's like I always say, like I always say, I have this concept of human entropy, that all humans without proper suffering and overcoming, to use some generic words, obviously from a Nietzschean perspective, you just go to your lowest state of energy.
02:49:44.000So, you know, for me it was, yeah, let's buy this gun made in 1970 and it has an incredibly rare amount of spare parts available and reloading data and all this stuff.
02:50:24.000Well, while my arm's in a sling, I'm going to take my auto mag apart and completely take it down to the frame, have the frame be blasted, put it all back together.
02:50:32.000And then I was on this forum, so I'm talking with this legendary Pistolero, rest in peace, Lee Juris, who is famous for creating these custom, badass auto mags and taking antelope with auto mags at 200, 300 yards.
02:51:17.000Just fucking away, playing around on this little – tinkering around on this piece and put my gun back together and go out and shoot it and it just fucking cloverleafs things and it's brilliant.
02:51:28.000But it's also the brilliant that regardless whether it's pistols or – it doesn't matter the thing.
02:52:37.000I think being a beginner is really rewarding.
02:52:39.000And I think that as you get better in things where you're just starting out in these things, I really feel like it enhances everything you do.
02:53:22.000One of the things that I would say in regards to you is the way people talk about you, to me, says more about them than it ever says about you.
02:53:32.000And when I have someone, let's say, respond and take a bunch of uncharitable takes, I'm like, oh, you actually don't fucking pay attention, do you?
02:53:47.000And you're telling me not about Joe at all.
02:53:50.000You're only telling me about yourself.
02:53:54.000And I just, through everything you do, that opportunity for new pathways, new growth, better understanding, what is it, the Maya Angelou quote, we do the best we can, and when we know better, we do better.
02:54:10.000And that's a really simple way of looking at things, but when we know better, we can do better.
02:54:14.000When we know better, whether we do better, we can just do differently sometimes.
02:54:18.000And seeing the progress of this podcast Like I told you, I talk to people from the internet dark web.
02:54:35.000And there's probably other people I'll meet through this.
02:54:38.000And for me, it's just I want to be exposed to all these people's ideas and thoughts and these conversations, especially when they're going to be in areas of expertise.
02:54:50.000Yeah, it's fascinating, and for me, it's very valuable to be able to get those people's thoughts, and yours as well, to get them out to the world.
02:54:58.000And I think for a guy like you, it's very beneficial because they look at you, and again, if they looked at you on the outside, they go, oh, the youngest ever fucking UFC heavyweight champion has got some shit to say?
02:55:56.000And I feel like, personally, that I've...
02:56:00.000Something I've had to deal with in my life is that I think that there was or is maybe even still this...
02:56:10.000Idea, this construct of what I'm supposed to be and how successful or what have you I should be, right?
02:56:20.000And if I exceed that, people get pissed that I'm somehow doing something in a way that they don't think I should be or that I'm getting notoriety in a way that I'm No, no, no.
02:56:34.000You're not supposed to be that person.
02:56:36.000No, you're supposed to be this and only this.
02:56:38.000And if you exceed that, fuck you for not being what I want you to be.
02:56:44.000What they don't understand is that that's fucking them.
02:58:34.000And they don't even realize that every time they hate, they think they're getting you or getting that guy or taking her down or throwing these jabs out there and that it's going to work and make you feel bad.
02:58:45.000What they don't realize is they're literally stealing time away from their own interests and loves.
02:58:51.000They're caging themselves to be only as good as they are at that moment.
02:59:52.000If all you can do is say something bad about the person that you chose to be in a relationship with, then that says more about you than them.
02:59:59.000And to think that I would never be involved in somebody, with somebody, that I didn't love and enjoy.
03:00:23.000To narrow your focus into that which you want to take precedent, so you can justify your grievance in this instead of saying, okay, well, I can have a real grievance,
03:00:38.000and that's totally acceptable, and I can justify it, I can show for the grievance itself.
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