In this episode, Joe talks about the ridiculous amount of weight he carries on a daily basis, and the ridiculous things people do to make sure he doesn t carry it everywhere. He also talks about some of the crazier things they do to stop him from carrying it on planes, and how they treat him when he tries to bring it on a plane. And, of course, there's a story about a woman who doesn't understand why he needs to carry a weightlifting kettlebell in the first place, and just wants to pick it up and walk it out of the baggage claim in front of the TSA at JFK Airport. And then he talks about what happens when he shows up at customs with it, and they don't allow him to carry it on board the plane, because they think it's like a weapon. And it's a good thing he doesn't carry it with him on planes or anywhere else, because he'd probably be in serious trouble if he had to carry that much weight on board a plane, and he's not allowed to even carry it in a carry-on bag, right? And that's not even close to the craziest thing he's ever had to deal with, let alone in a foreign country, and yet he still carries it everywhere he goes, and it's still allowed to fly across the country with it on his back? And he's allowed to do it? How about when he's in India and they still won't let him take it on the plane with him? and he gets asked to put it in someone else's bag? How's that right at the airport to check it in?? Yeah, it's pretty funny, right?! Just pay the . . . We hope you enjoy this one, and if you like it, please leave us a review and tell us what you think about it on Apple Podcasts! if you liked it, we'll be looking out for more episodes like this in the future, and we'll try to make it even better next week, and share it with a friend who needs a little bit more of this in their lives. . Thanks for listening! -Joe, Joe, the podcasting geniuses. XOXO. -Jon and the podcast, Joe "The Kettlebell Guy" and we're looking for more like that. Jon, the kettlebell guy Mike, the farmer.
00:02:48.000In the Middle East, they give me a sentence, which I can't recall, but it basically says it's going to be up to God if this comes out the other end.
00:03:56.000The woman will wrap it perfectly, as if it's like Godiva chocolate.
00:04:01.000Wrap it in cardboard, tape it, put a little handle, and then in high-heeled shoes, she'll carry it 100 yards like she's sweating, and carefully place it in location.
00:04:16.000They have one of the lowest death rates and lowest problems with COVID. Like, they're one of the countries that handled it the best.
00:04:27.000And we're trying to figure out why, and I think it's probably, they're really good at following rules, very disciplined, and they wear masks all the time when they're sick.
00:05:13.000It's so interesting how human beings that, you know, basically not much different other than they're from a different climate, you know, different genes, but it's just amazing how differently they live.
00:05:25.000It's amazing how they all have, like, when I was in Japan, I've only been once, but when I was in Tokyo, I was like, everyone is so polite.
00:05:32.000Like, you're walking down the street and...
00:05:34.000It's like there's no garbage anywhere.
00:05:36.000It's very clean, but yet it's very packed.
00:06:55.000And if you follow back to the warrior culture, the samurai and I mean, their long history of martial arts, it's really kind of amazing that this island had so much innovation and so much mastery of hand-to-hand combat,
00:07:39.000You're not going to be, we may be at odds on this, but I went, and I'll tell you why.
00:07:44.000We went raw fruits and vegetables only, and here's a guy that was eating eight egg McMuffins a day for breakfast and two two-liter sprites.
00:11:33.000Second lesson is if I'm paying you to clean the pool, I want you to straighten up the shed, straighten up all the lawn furniture, clean the windows, do whatever the fuck you have to do, but make it so that when I get home, I can't live without you.
00:11:44.000You are irreplaceable as far as a service provider.
00:11:48.000And number three, never ask for money.
00:18:44.000I don't know how many months into it we are, but he's probably down to 350 pounds, 400 pounds, and he says to me, I gotta go to the doctor.
00:18:52.000And I said, what are you talking about?
00:20:07.000But this man, who was really fat, he lost all this weight, but he lost it everywhere.
00:20:14.000Like, his skin came back normal-sized.
00:20:17.000He didn't have to have any of his skin removed.
00:20:19.000I would bet if it wasn't genetic and unique to him, I've done very long-distance races where we had limited food, and I've read about people that have been stuck at sea, let's say, for 72 days, and their teeth get extremely white and their skin,
00:20:35.000if they're not getting sunburned, it gets beautiful.
00:29:23.000In the 70s, I remember as a young kid seeing Rocky.
00:29:26.000And that was my introduction to, for many kids actually, that was our introduction to fighting.
00:29:31.000And for whatever reason, at a very young age, it was intriguing to me that a person, a fighter, would get out of shape and then get in shape.
00:29:41.000Why wouldn't they just stay in shape the whole time?
00:29:57.000They like to go out on the town and be the fucking man, you know, and they get fat.
00:30:03.000Like Roberto Duran was famous for that, right?
00:30:05.000He'd get real fat in between fights and then you'd have to lose weight and just...
00:30:10.000You know that there's guys that don't like Bernard Hopkins never never gained weight and he was super disciplined and always ate really clean and Was a elite athlete deep into his 40s.
00:30:21.000I mean it was a world champion deep into his 40s Yeah, which is very unusual for a boxer and and so my question is is um Makes sense why they go in and out and they don't they don't maintain it, but then the very disciplined fighters Would perform better I would imagine right because then yeah in the for the most part.
00:30:39.000Yeah Do you think, because this is the way, I call it the Spartan paradox, right?
00:30:44.000You probably have a better name for it from all the years of fighting, but like, if you have a date on the calendar, the Spartans knew they were going to battle.
00:30:51.000If you know you've got a fight coming up, you'll do those push-ups, those squats, right?
00:31:31.000Just got too wrapped up in the fact that he was the champ and too wrapped up in partying and next thing you know he lost the title and now he's faced with this very difficult task of trying to get a fight for the title now because he's a dangerous fighter still.
00:31:46.000But people, he's not really the draw that he could have been.
00:31:48.000If he beat Joshua the second time, he's a superstar.
00:32:19.000Would you say, at least I see it in our community, is for the most part, most people, if they know they got something hard coming They'll wake up a little earlier.
00:32:28.000It's a good motivator, but some people cram for tests, right?
00:32:34.000Like if you tell someone they have a fight in three months, some people start drinking water right now, and they start eating healthy right now, and they write down a schedule, they start monitoring their heart rate, maybe they get a whoop strap and start Checking what their heart rate variability is.
00:32:48.000Make sure they're recovering from their workouts correctly and do it scientifically.
00:35:26.000And when you talk to him about boxing history, when you talk to him about the history of philosophy, when he starts talking about great warriors and Marcus Aurelius and some of the books that he's read, he's very intelligent.
00:35:38.000But he's intelligent in figuring out how to fuck people up.
00:37:38.000So I say to him, and this ties to what you were just saying, I say to him, well, fuck, if we're going to do it, why don't I spend the summer going to St. John's in Queens while I'm doing my pool business and learn how to study?
00:37:54.000Buckle down, get serious, get disciplined.
00:37:57.000He says, screw that, we're gonna go to Vegas.
00:38:00.000Why don't we go to Vegas, give up your business, go to Vegas, we'll party all summer, and then we'll buckle down in September when we get here.
00:39:14.000Some people can excel at because they're focused on them and because they're drawn to it and they have an incredible passion for it Versus like you tell a guy like hey, you know You're gonna study to be an electrical engineer and it's like I don't want to be a fucking electrical engineer Well,
00:39:29.000you gotta have discipline and so they don't have the drive and they don't they don't get excited about it and they don't do but if you tell that guy Whatever, you're gonna be a golfer, and he fucking loves golf, and he's practicing every day, and he becomes a professional golfer.
00:39:44.000And you say, well, I thought that guy didn't have any discipline.
00:39:46.000Well, it's not that he didn't have any discipline.
00:39:48.000He's just not interested in that other thing.
00:39:51.000I was never a disciplined kid, but I would find things that I loved, and I was obsessed.
00:39:57.000And I always felt embarrassed by it, because people would say, oh, your son, like to my mom, Your son is so disciplined.
00:40:03.000And she'd be like, my son's fucking crazy.
00:40:46.000And so I was just doing it all day long.
00:40:48.000And it was kind of stunning for my family, because they didn't even know I had that in me.
00:40:52.000Like, they thought that I was just going to be this ne'er-do-well, you know, because I just really couldn't concentrate on these jobs that I would have.
00:40:59.000But when I wasn't bored, I was very excited by things.
00:41:03.000I think, for whatever reason, whether it's my genetics or my upbringing, I just had a very weird personality that didn't fit in with normal...
00:41:12.000Like, I was allergic to the idea of having a nine-to-five.
00:43:12.000So that's his argument, and I suspect That's what you're talking about.
00:43:17.000Well, see, here's where I diverge there because I think gathering and farming and stuff is kind of exciting.
00:43:24.000Like growing things and watching food come out of the ground and processing that food or, you know, harvesting that food and then eating it.
00:43:31.000Like eating a salad that you grew yourself is just something very rewarding.
00:43:39.000What's not rewarding to me is being compliant to a bunch of other people where you've got some weird rigid rules and you're under fluorescent lighting and you're in some strange environment that's not natural.
00:43:51.000What I think is the people that adapt to that world, that 9 to 5 world, are more compliant.
00:44:02.000I don't know whether it's cultural, but there's something about the human beings that are willing to do that office work, that are willing to go and abide by the rules of human resources.
00:44:24.000I found, I don't know if you agree with this, there were a ton of kids along the way growing up as I was building my business that would say, oh, I'm not into this.
00:44:48.000I was into art or I was into something.
00:44:51.000I always found things that I was interested in, just none of them seemed like they were normal things that other people wanted to do for a living.
00:45:16.000And if their parents are living a bullshit life, and their neighbors are living a bullshit life, and most of their family lives a bullshit life, they just fucking lay around, you know?
00:45:26.000And then they seek refuge in drugs, or video games, or something that stimulates them.
00:46:10.000And then you see your jiu-jitsu school...
00:46:13.000And your jiu-jitsu instructor has all these students and drives a Mercedes and he's got a nice family and like, that's the future.
00:46:19.000This way you're doing something exciting and fun and you don't...
00:46:22.000Or you could just be playing fucking video games.
00:46:24.000Three years later you could be that same kid just playing video games waiting for the next whatever the fuck game is, you know, next Xbox game to come out and you're gonna waste your time.
00:46:41.000And my kids, I don't know if you're going through this, but my kids are now saying, well, Dad, this guy made all this money with this video game.
00:47:22.000Yeah, I was like, I'm going to find my way through this, and since no one's telling me it's impossible, no one's telling me I can't, occasionally I would hear someone say, what are the odds?
00:47:31.000I'm like, listen to this fucking loser.
00:47:33.000My thought was always like, that guy's a loser.
00:47:35.000If you think like that, you're a loser.
00:47:37.000But there are kids that make a lot of fucking money playing video games.
00:47:42.000But the thing is, like, you have to be adaptable.
00:47:44.000You have to be able to play multiple video games because the one video game that you get really good at, what are the odds that it's going to be around five years from now?
00:47:51.000You know, like, what's the big one now?
00:49:23.000I get the idea, and I reach out to a bunch of friends and family, and I said, I want to hold this camp, call it from the end of June through mid-July.
00:49:40.000It's on me, but I'm going to turn them into, you know, it'll be fun.
00:49:44.000I'm embellishing a little bit when I use some of these words, like fun, and...
00:49:49.000Really what I want to do is turn them into warriors and get them off their friggin' phones.
00:49:54.000And selfishly, for me, selfishly, I want my kids to be, like, it's hard for me to do this to my kids alone, but if there's another 16 kids around, 18 kids around, everybody gets sucked up in the vortex, right?
00:50:07.000So anyway, first day, unbeknownst to me, we left their phones in their rooms.
00:54:02.000This is an illegal camp run by a crazy person.
00:54:08.000This is a 15-year-old kid who has tricked kids to come here to do farm work for him, manual labor, and he punishes us whenever he feels like it.
00:54:17.000And if your mom were here, you would understand that.
00:54:19.000You put your son in a dangerous situation, but instead you're sitting on a fancy couch in our home laughing at our son's serious health concerns.
00:55:00.000He was being dramatic, and it's hard work, but kids need it.
00:55:04.000You're not getting that in the basement.
00:55:06.000They need to understand that you can struggle and you can realize that sometimes when things are really hard to do, you think, oh my god, I've got to stop doing this.
00:55:15.000But once you do it and you complete it, you have a satisfaction, this sense of satisfaction that you did something really difficult that is irreplaceable.
00:55:24.000Some kids never get that and they just stay fat and stupid their whole life.
00:55:28.000And some kids, they get these little lessons and then they realize like you can push yourself and you can get somewhere.
00:55:33.000You know, some kids get real lucky and they get involved in sports.
00:55:37.000Or martial arts early and one of the best benefits of sports is you realize that through hard work you get improvement through improvement You get success through success you get that big dopamine rush you get that good feeling you get confidence you get this knowledge Yeah, you get sometimes I didn't but you get this knowledge that you can do something That's difficult and you can overcome even though it feels like you can't I can't like that's one of the beautiful things about the belt system of martial arts you start off and As a beginner,
00:56:07.000And then as things go on, you get a new belt and when your instructor takes your old belt off and ties your new one off, your new one on, you have this amazing feeling of accomplishment.
00:57:47.000It's an opportunity to focus your energy and your thoughts on the deepest aspects, the deepest center of your mind and think about your breathing and think about that.
00:57:59.000And don't think about the fact, oh my god, it's so cold.
00:58:30.000When all these texts were coming in and my wife wanted to divorce me and all this shit was happening just three or four weeks ago, I got in touch with a neurosurgeon and I said, would you talk to the kids?
00:58:40.000And the neurosurgeon said, which I didn't know, you probably know this, he said, kids, when you take on something hard, it could be a cold shower, it could be this 14-day crazy camp with Joe, the belt system, if you don't finish it, it leaves a physical gap in the brain.
00:58:55.000Literally, we could see as a neurosurgeon that the wires are unconnected because you never finished it.
00:59:00.000But when you finish it, it leaves like train tracks.
00:59:03.000And so the more tracks you could lay, like you were laying them as you were getting the belt system, right?
00:59:08.000The advantage, you're going to have an advantage over your competitors.
00:59:27.000And I think sports are really the best way for kids to learn it.
00:59:30.000Sports are the best way because there's something about physical pursuits where you have to motivate.
00:59:37.000The mind has to force the body to plow through discomfort.
00:59:41.000It's a different kind of mental strength.
00:59:44.000There's mental strength in terms of your ability to sit down and be disciplined and study and do homework assignments and complete projects and do complex problems and problem solving.
01:03:00.000So I built the swimming pool business, turned into a little bit of a construction company, somehow fight my way, graduate college, and meet a guy at Cornell who says, what are you doing when you graduate?
01:03:12.000I said, I'm going back to the neighborhood.
01:03:13.000And he says, well, you're a fucking idiot.
01:03:14.000He goes, you got to go to Wall Street.
01:03:16.000I don't know anything about Wall Street.
01:04:52.000And so we had gone on a date, my wife and I, to a friend in Idaho.
01:04:58.000We went out to Idaho for like a snowshoeing thing.
01:05:00.000And on the way back, I saw this real estate magazine in the plane, and it had homes and ranches in Jackson Hole, which you got to be pretty wealthy to buy anything in Jackson Hole.
01:07:01.000So a guy says to me, look, I'll rent you an excavator, a machine, and I think I got a guy that'll not go hunting, and he'll run the machine.
01:12:57.000The only time that could happen is if the animal's in the rut.
01:13:00.000Sometimes when they're in the rut, the males go so crazy that there's a video, it's a crazy video, of a guy is in a blind, he's in a hunting blind, and this buck is so out of it that he actually taps his antlers with the arrow.
01:13:15.000He's got an arrow in his hand, he taps him, like tap, tap, and the buck's like...
01:13:19.000He's just so out of it, because they're so horny, they lose their fucking mind.
01:13:23.000It's very rare that they behave like this, but they could work themselves up into such a frenzy that they're hallucinating.
01:13:31.000They don't know what the fuck's going on.
01:14:28.000There's the third-generation Vermonter, hard-working farmer, and then there's all the New York, New Jersey, Boston transplants, very hippy, crunchy.
01:14:38.000And those are the ones like Bernie Sanders.
01:14:57.000No, I definitely think it's much better when people work for a living.
01:14:59.000I think what Bernie wants is people to earn a living wage for their work.
01:15:03.000I think there's a lot of misconceptions about what he wants.
01:15:06.000I don't think he wants to give people free money.
01:15:09.000I think he wants people to be able to earn a living and he thinks that there's a lot of greedy Wall Street people that are essentially stealing money.
01:15:17.000We were definitely overpaid for our job, no doubt about it.
01:15:39.000I've had a lot of stories where people say to me, I haven't had this experience myself, where there's negative selection, where folks will come to Vermont because of all those free things.
01:18:11.000I get to places where I just want water, food, and shelter, and I'm not worried about payroll and all the bullshit of life or deers being buried in my back, right?
01:20:04.000Do you incorporate any of what they do into what you do?
01:20:08.000Or did you just buy them and just assume them?
01:20:10.000We bought them and the way I look at it, and you tell me what you think, the way I look at it is we want to be the LVMH. The Louis Vuitton owns all these brands.
01:20:20.000Vail Resorts owns all these ski locations.
01:20:23.000We want to own all these different types of events that are basically the boxing matches for people.
01:20:30.000And so you could sign up and buy a season pass and you just choose your poison.
01:20:34.000I'm going to do this this month, I'm going to do that that month.
01:20:37.000And so I don't want to, they're not going to converge.
01:20:40.000Tough Mudder is going to be its own thing just like it was when we were fighting.
01:20:44.000We've got a couple other brands in there, just trail runs, this thing called DECA. And I'm really just trying to put dates on people's calendars like a boxing match.
01:20:53.000Just give them something to challenge themselves to train for.
01:20:56.000And hopefully they're like the boxers you described that actually do the work.
01:22:39.000Yeah, he's just blasted out of his fucking mind.
01:22:41.000But what happens in that funk of that fog of cocaine and alcohol and nicotine and just mashing those keys and just digging into the deep recesses of his mind?
01:22:56.000I'm not convinced you could reach that on the natch.
01:23:01.000I mean, there is discipline in the fact that he sat down and did that work.
01:23:05.000There's discipline in the fact that he was there, but he wasn't taking care of himself.
01:23:09.000He wasn't drinking water and doing sit-ups.
01:23:11.000That motherfucker would sit in front of that keyboard and torture himself with blow and write these masterpieces that, to this day, freak people the fuck out.
01:23:21.000You read Carrie, to this day, you're like, whew!
01:24:45.000I think we look at it in terms of good and bad, and sometimes you can't look at things and you can't – everything is not binary.
01:24:53.000You want to talk about a healthy person, right?
01:24:55.000A person who's running, a person who's competing in athletic endeavors, well, that person has very specific requirements of their body.
01:25:02.000Like, you know, if you're gonna run 3,100 miles, man, I mean, Jesus Christ, you're gonna have to do that running.
01:25:08.000You're gonna have to be in shape if you do the Moab 240. You know, you want to do that.
01:25:14.000You want to run 240 miles through the fucking mountains.
01:25:17.000But if you want to write a book, You don't necessarily have to do sit-ups.
01:25:23.000You don't necessarily have to even be healthy.
01:25:25.000And there's some people who just want to write a book.
01:25:28.000And there's some weird energy to being drunk.
01:25:33.000There's weird energy to smoking cigarettes.
01:25:35.000There's weird energy to taking amphetamines.
01:25:38.000There's weird energy to sitting in front of a computer and coming up with these ideas.
01:25:42.000It's not good for the body, but sometimes the results, like sometimes people sacrifice health and they sacrifice wellness in order to achieve creative goals.
01:25:56.000I don't know if it's required, but I just know it's been done and the results for some people are amazing.
01:26:03.000This is nothing I would ever encourage.
01:26:05.000Certainly never encouraged my kids to do it.
01:26:07.000Certainly would never encourage good friends to do it.
01:26:09.000But there's something about these people that have made some of the great works of art, some of the great works of literature.
01:26:41.000They achieve, in some cases, tremendous success, but they're fucking dead.
01:26:47.000I wonder if they would have achieved that success If they had been eating healthy and taking care of themselves, and I wonder if they would have looked at things the same way.
01:28:29.000Yeah, I don't know if that's the way to go to make your heart last.
01:28:32.000You know, there's a lot of variables and there's a lot of people that have differing opinions, a lot of experts that have differing opinions in terms of nutrients that you're not going to get and, you know, and how to get those nutrients and how to make sure that the protein that you're getting is bioavailable and that you're getting a full suite of vitamins with everything,
01:28:50.000you know, with all your meals and making sure all your bases are covered.
01:29:00.000And again, I had my mom pushing for 30 years, right?
01:29:03.000The diet, which I was pushing back from because I wanted the raviolis and the meat.
01:29:10.000If you're 10th generation or 20th generation from a particular place on the planet that ate a certain way for 20 generations, and there's survival of the fittest, right?
01:29:19.000Like those that couldn't last on that diet, died off, and You probably have a predisposition to eat that way in that part of the world, I would think.
01:29:28.000There's certainly a good argument for that.
01:29:30.000There's a genetic argument for your diet in terms of they can sequence your genome and go over your history and prescribe to you a diet that's based on your ancestry.
01:30:23.000Yeah, so many people go through life vitamin D deficient.
01:30:25.000I mean, that is like one of the most common ones.
01:30:27.000That's one of the big ones with COVID. More than 80% of the people in multiple studies, 80% of the people that were in the ICU with COVID had vitamin D deficient levels.
01:30:44.000So, I mean, that doesn't, you know, correlation, causation, it doesn't exactly mean that vitamin D is going to protect you, but it is, it's crucial for health, and it's a vitamin that's actually also, according to Dr. Rhonda Patrick taught me this, that it's also a hormone.
01:30:59.000You know, and it's, you know, it's something that It's crucial.
01:31:07.000And if you stay inside all day, you definitely don't get it.
01:31:09.000And African Americans have an even harder time getting it because their ancestors developed all this melanin in their skin because they were constantly exposed to sunlight and the melanin was there to protect you from the sunlight.
01:31:20.000And they didn't have to worry about absorbing the vitamin D because they were out there all the time.
01:31:24.000Well, as people move into colder climates and climates that are cloudier, that's why people got paler.
01:31:31.000They got paler because your body became essentially like a fucking giant solar panel for vitamin D. Right.
01:31:45.000It's a survival mechanism for vitamin D, for the one thing.
01:31:50.000My doctor told me that when he was measuring people, he would measure black folks in New York, and some of them had undetectable levels of vitamin D, which is insane.
01:33:18.000And they got the machetes and barefoot and they're going from like for them to go to see a friend at another village, it's like a 15 mile hike.
01:34:21.000Yeah, my friend Steve Rinella actually went to Guyana and was hanging out with these tribes, and they would kill a monkey, and they were so excited, and they would smoke the monkey and cook it in a soup, and that was their favorite thing to eat.
01:34:41.000My friend David Cho, who's an artist, was just in Africa, and he was staying with a tribe, and their primary diet is baboons because he sent me some pictures.
01:34:52.000I don't know if I can use them, so I won't post them to you.
01:34:55.000But he sent me some pictures of these people cooking up baboons.
01:34:58.000He said that people like miners and people that are out there that Have killed essentially so many animals in that area.
01:35:06.000They've depopulated that area so badly that baboons are like the last thing left.
01:35:40.000I've read a lot about Native American history and one of the more disturbing things is how prevalent cannibalism was and how prevalent cannibalism was where they would kill their enemies and eat them and roast them over the fire and sometimes eat them while they're still alive.
01:35:57.000You think that was part of the reward?
01:36:54.000The Europeans hadn't figured out how to fight on horseback.
01:36:56.000They would climb off the horse to aim their rifle and then shoot it, and then they'd have to reload, and the Comanches would just run up on them and shoot from horseback.
01:37:06.000The idea that these people who grew up in this place or evolved in this place where they didn't have horses, they ate whatever the fuck they could.
01:37:15.000They came here on foot from Asia, right?
01:37:18.000And a lot of them came through the Bering Strait.
01:41:28.000But when I talked to my friend Brett Weinstein, who is a biologist, he explained scientifically that there's all these points, all these things you could point to about this virus that indicate that it's been manipulated.
01:43:15.000Well, you know, that's like a bunch of compounding factors, right?
01:43:20.000You know, you have the George Floyd murder, and then you have the protests afterwards, which ignite most likely is one of the factors in the kick-up of the virus again, the second wave of it.
01:43:32.000You know, there's a lot going on, you know, and then also people don't like to be told what to do here.
01:43:45.000I took the approach of we could put on a safe event.
01:43:47.000The second that I get a state or a country that allows us to put on an event, we're back on.
01:43:53.000And we're going to put protocols in place because I believe, fight me on it, I don't know what your thoughts are, but I believe that you're more likely to get it like we're sitting right now as opposed to being outside.
01:44:48.000And if you looked at the numbers, like so many of the people that have it now are young people.
01:44:53.000I think bars had a big impact on it too.
01:44:55.000I think a lot of, you know, drunk talk in bars, you're right on top of each other, you're indoors, you're drinking, your inhibitions are down, you're not thinking, you're not washing your hands, you're yelling, you're talking loud.
01:45:47.000I'm a little annoyed because it's not going to be the race I'm used to where everybody's like getting together in a festival area and I can't have like mud pits where we're mingling people.
01:48:18.000I don't know what your feeling is on Sweden, but thanks to that warrior call we spoke about at the very beginning of this conversation where I had all the people from around the world chiming in.
01:48:28.000It looks to me—I know people are going to listen to this and say, Joe, you're crazy.
01:48:33.000Sweden's got more deaths than Norway and other Nordic countries.
01:48:37.000But when you look at the charts, you look at the number of people infected in Sweden versus the number of people dying.
01:49:35.000Maybe this thing's just got to work its way through because even if you get a vaccine, I happen to be close with a gentleman that's invested in one of these companies coming out with the vaccine.
01:50:01.000The only way out of this, again, people are going to be pissed off, the only way out is get on with our lives.
01:50:09.000Well, the thing that I've been harping on maybe too much is that there's no emphasis whatsoever from our government about taking care of your health.
01:51:11.000You give people freedom and you get a lot of things.
01:51:14.000The problem with this disease is this is not like anything else.
01:51:18.000You can't compare it to the flu because it's clearly more infectious.
01:51:23.000And there's, you know, there's flu shots.
01:51:25.000People can, even if you have a flu shot and it's for the wrong strain of the flu, there's enough in that that will protect you at least a certain amount from whatever flu.
01:51:38.000So all you got is vitamins and nutrients and health and sleeping.
01:51:42.000So when you say, alright, let's get them healthy, you're president, and you want freedom, which I agree with freedom, but freedom has led to, like when I lived in Japan and I land anywhere in the United States, it doesn't matter what airport I land in, people are three times the size.
01:51:56.000I don't want to say that about my American brothers and sisters, but they're three times the fucking size.
01:52:32.000It's a small percentage, but that's what freedom gets you.
01:52:35.000There's a small percentage of people that are going to excel.
01:52:38.000I mean, that's just part of the recipe of exceptionalism.
01:52:43.000If you're going to give people the ability to do whatever the fuck they want, you're going to have some people that are going to ruin their lives because of that.
01:52:55.000What if you're president and I whispered in your ear and I said, all right, Joe, if you won't accept getting rid of the Doritos, can we at least have an FDA that's not, in other words, a department that just doesn't allow factory farming, doesn't allow bullshit foods,
01:53:13.000Okay, factory farming I think should be a crime because I think it's a crime against nature.
01:53:18.000I think what they do to those pigs, when you see pigs stuffed into those cages, standing in their own shit and then The shit and piss gets filtered out into a giant pond that's outside of it.
01:54:24.000But now that it's there and now we know about it, we gotta pull it back.
01:54:27.000And if that means that these fast food places are gonna have to jack up prices and they're gonna have to use organic, free-range beef, And instead of, you know, the shit that they're serving people now, well, then that's what's gonna have to happen.
01:54:42.000And if things are more expensive, then people realize, well, this stuff is better for you, but now it costs more.
01:56:56.000I mean, look, what they're trying to do in Portland is a different story because you're trying to break up looting, smashing windows, attacks on federal property.
01:57:08.000I'm not educated enough to decide, nor have I really sat down and thought about it, whether or not they need the Department of Homeland Security to break that stuff up.
01:57:17.000I don't know what's going on up there.
01:57:18.000But I do know that the mayor, who is in support of what he was calling peaceful protests, is now like, okay, this is a riot.
01:57:43.000You can't let people destroy property.
01:57:44.000You also can't let people, like, these mass gatherings have become violent, and they think they're doing it for a good cause, but it's totally directionless.
01:59:13.000Look, how much time do we spend talking about certain issues that we have, whatever those issues are, and how little time do we spend—how little time does our own government spend talking to us about our diet, talking to us about, like, literally one of the most important things— Even doctors don't talk about our diet.
01:59:38.000Unless that person's actually studied, unless their actual education is in nutrition, there's very little studying of it.
01:59:48.000If you're a doctor that's a general practitioner, If you're a doctor that's an orthopedic surgeon, how much time, unless you're independently studying it, how much time in medical school do they spend studying nutrition?
02:00:51.000I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I was on Wall Street, and if you're a Burger King, you're at one of these big public companies that's making food that's not so healthy.
02:01:01.000You've got scientists, you've got Madison Avenue advertisers.
02:01:04.000You've figured out a way to get into our psyche where you can't live without that thing.
02:02:09.000So like for every good ad for Burger King had, you could hire like a company that would make a creative, very compelling ad showing fat people having heart attacks.
02:02:22.000Or even a motivating one to do something healthy.
02:03:51.000A heavy bag, smoke a joint, hit that heavy bag, play some Hendrix, just whack the shit out of that heavy bag, and then after it's over, man, I feel great.
02:04:37.000Wandering around, driving 60 miles an hour in these metal boxes with rubber tires over this artificial road that we've created and covered the earth with.
02:05:01.000And you're trying to navigate this time the best you can.
02:05:04.000Trying to be nice and be a good friend and be a good neighbor and be a good husband and a father and all those good things and a good wife and just a nice co-worker.
02:05:14.000And you're trying to just do your best.
02:05:16.000It's complicated and you're interacting with all these different people with all sorts of different issues and problems and needs and wants and desires and egos and There's a lot going on, man.
02:05:27.000And the more that you can mitigate your own stress levels, the more that you can calm the demons inside you, the better you're going to interact with people, the better they're going to feel about their interactions with you, the better they're going to interact with other people,
02:05:44.000And it just makes the whole world better.
02:05:46.000Like, if you're a better person, if you do your best and you get better at it and you keep doing your best, you keep getting better at it, like all things in life, You'd do better at creating a healthy environment for all the people around you, too.
02:05:59.000When you say it that way, it's like if everybody in America exercised 20 minutes a day, right?
02:06:15.000But if you looked at the mean, if you looked at overall, like if you got 330 million people or whatever we've got in this country, And all of them worked out 20 minutes a day.
02:06:24.000And then you looked at what the results were two, three years down the road.
02:06:28.000I would imagine you would have less aggressive behavior.
02:06:32.000You would have probably less violent crime.
02:12:05.000You've got no rigidity to your thoughts.
02:12:07.000You don't have any resolve in your mindset because you've never been tested.
02:12:11.000And a person who goes through life without ever been tested is a sad person.
02:12:15.000The saddest thing is seeing a person who's never been tested when the shit hits the fan.
02:12:19.000And that's one of the things we're seeing from COVID. We're seeing a lot of people that just have weak minds and they're just panicking and screaming at people, wear a mask!
02:12:28.000People on the other side of the street and Because they never face tough times.
02:13:02.000So all they're doing is judging other people, constantly bitching and bickering about other people.
02:13:07.000You learn a lot from someone about how much attention they spend on other people's failures, how much time they spend pointing out other people's failures, and how little time they spend reflecting on their own.
02:13:20.000We think about our business, we say we shine a mirror in your face.
02:14:39.000I love the fact that you're forcing these kids to do these things, and then you're putting together these races where it gives people a destination.
02:14:45.000It gives people an opportunity to train for an event, and that's big, man.
02:15:08.000And all the benefits you talk about, like, you can't even believe the transformations that happen to all these people and the letters I get.
02:15:17.000And, like, I get paid in that currency.
02:15:25.000What if you put together, like, an online thing?
02:15:28.000Where the people are accountable, but because of COVID, you tell them that event is going to happen, the event is going to take place in six weeks, and this is what you need to do.
02:15:42.000Yeah, maybe you have an app or maybe even simpler...
02:15:46.000They just use a fucking timer on their phone, you know, and say, okay, you know, ready, set, start.
02:15:52.000Start your timer, and then you have to complete all these things, and maybe you have a checklist on your website where they can check off all the different things that they have to do during that day and get it done.
02:16:01.000And maybe someone like that 600-pound dude, it takes him seven hours, and the average person takes him 90 minutes, but everybody does it together, and then as a community, they all report it, put it up on Instagram, maybe with hashtags.
02:16:14.000Yeah, give these people an event without having a physical location.
02:16:18.000I mean, look, there's probably nothing better than that physical location when you all get together and the camaraderie and the energy of all the people together running together.
02:17:47.000I just want to go somewhere in the center of the country, somewhere it's easier to travel to both places, and somewhere where you have a little bit more freedom.
02:17:55.000Also, I think that where we live right here in Los Angeles is overcrowded, and I think...
02:18:01.000Most of the time, that's not a problem.
02:18:02.000But I think it's exposing the fact that it's a real issue.
02:18:06.000When you look at the number of people that are catching COVID because of this overpopulation issue, when you look at the traffic, when you look at the economic despair, when you look at the homelessness problem that's accelerated radically over the last six,
02:18:23.000seven, ten years, I think there's too many people here.
02:19:58.000But now, again, I was talking to a neuroscientist yesterday who was saying the latest is they don't think asymptomatic people are contagious.
02:20:07.000And I'm like, well, what the fuck, man?
02:22:13.000Most of the time I have an idea and I think I know how it's going to work and then I say it but it doesn't work that good or I have a new way to do it that's better or I come up with a new tagline that changes the bit.
02:22:25.000It's a weird art form because you have to kind of do it in front of people.
02:23:19.000I've been getting some 21 or 22-year-olds from very, very wealthy families that are saying, hey, Joe, they know me through somebody or whatever.
02:23:34.000By the time they're 21, 22, they're hard to fix.
02:23:36.000These little kids, I make a big impact.
02:23:40.000I mean, the letters I got are tearjerkers after the text I saw them writing the parents about how terrible I was, and then seeing 14 days later the impact.
02:24:32.000So you're running this every two weeks with a new group?
02:24:35.000I mean, it's selfish for me because I want my kids to keep just re-enlisting, right?
02:24:39.000And so I need more kids for them, and so I just hit up another group, and some of the old kids came, so this is their second tour, we'll call it.
02:24:46.000One of them's an 11-year-old girl that's just badass, stoic, and...
02:24:51.000And one of the older boys, I found out last night when I got to California, is hitting his dad up and saying, you got to get me out of here.
02:24:58.000You got to lie to Joe and tell him we have a family vacation and get me the fuck out of here.
02:25:03.00015. And the dad hit me up and I said, listen, next time he talks to you, tell him we have an 11-year-old girl by his side that is finishing this thing.
02:25:46.000And so we took a bunch of that Russian system, we took a bunch of the mountain warfare stuff, and then we just added the Spartan sprinkles in there and the stuff my mom...
02:25:55.000And so, you know, they're waking up early, they're hiking the mountain, they're doing miserable shit, carrying rocks, always purposeful, so we're building stuff out of the rocks that'll be there for the test of time.
02:26:08.000And so they can come back and see the efforts of their work.
02:26:13.000Cold water is always involved because as you said with the shower, cold water sucks.
02:27:45.000If anybody wanted to get a hold of you and wanted to do that, how would they enlist their kid?
02:27:50.000There's probably a bunch of people listening, looking at their fat kid, laying on the couch right now, going, Bobby, I got something for you.
02:27:57.000Yeah, so I give the whole world my email address.
02:27:59.000The only thing I ask is don't write me more than two sentences.