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00:01:21.000I feel like with all of the fucking tension, like there was a story in Chicago, right?
00:01:28.000They thought it was a 15 year old girl was shot by the police, it turned out to be a 20 year old man, and he was shot but he was still alive.
00:03:30.000As soon as the fucking calls stop coming in, you're like, alright, I'm an activist.
00:03:33.000What's so funny is we know, because we're in this thing, that getting good at this, whether it's comedy or being an actor, it's very tough.
00:03:43.000You're not spending your life thinking about other people.
00:03:46.000Let's just be real, for the most part.
00:04:14.000I've met these people, and my friends have opened for some of these people, and I know that these people are going out there and they're like, you know, listen, we've got to do this, we've got to do that, they've got to move the country forward.
00:04:26.000But I've seen them make people cry backstage in a theater because there's not enough water in the dressing room.
00:04:32.000So it's those same people that are really cruel because Going out and telling everybody how good of a person they are all the time.
00:07:09.000I mean, the QAnon thing is kind of a way they're doing it, where they're like...
00:07:13.000David Spade's got an ankle bracelet on and he's in jail and Trump's put everyone under house arrest.
00:07:19.000Like, they're in this other thing where it's like, oh, you guys have left the planet.
00:07:25.000Explain to people who don't know what this QAnon show is.
00:07:28.000Well, the QAnon stuff is like, there's this idea that there's an intelligence dissemination operation happening, meaning behind the scenes, high-level intelligence guys or military people are leaking information about a shadow war that we don't really see happening.
00:07:42.000And the shadow war involves Trump and the people on the side of lightness battling these deep state pedophile cannibals.
00:09:11.000A lot of the elites are doing things, engaging in pedophilia, and probably worse.
00:09:16.000Some of those kids on Epstein's Island probably did disappear.
00:09:20.000But the idea that Trump is fighting this underground war and it's all about human traffic, I just don't think that's borne out by the facts.
00:10:01.000Now, the thing is, that's a rich guy who's forgetting he's the president, who's just on a tee at Mar-a-Lago, because that's how rich people talk.
00:10:08.000I mean, that's literally, and I've been around a few, like, really wealthy people.
00:10:12.000When you say something bad, anything bad, if you go, you know, John's wife has cancer, you know, their kid had a dewey, he's got a problem, he had a couple incidents there at Harvard.
00:10:21.000They go like, this guy, I wish him well.
00:11:53.000But when he plays League of Legends or World of Warcraft, one of these games, he's a hero.
00:11:58.000And when he dies in real life, nobody really cares.
00:12:00.000But when he dies in the game, so many people come out and they show him respect because you're playing with people from all over the world.
00:12:06.000So Bannon's like, which life is the real life?
00:12:10.000Which, of course, it's the real one that you're living, not this fantasy game.
00:12:14.000But I think the QAnon thing, I think...
00:12:16.000The Trump administration is like, yeah, let people believe they're hunting pedophiles online.
00:13:06.000The things that he does that are mistakes, like these interviews that he does, where he'll argue about shit.
00:13:14.000He'll argue about how well they're doing, or what's wrong, or what he got right, or what his IQ is, or how well he did at this intelligence test.
00:13:25.000Anybody who's playing 3D chess is not going to do that.
00:14:10.000So he's basically saying that Trump is like a master persuader, and Scott Adams understands hypnosis and persuasion, and he's talking about the way the guy does it and how he does it, that he's a master persuader.
00:14:24.000A lot of people disagree with him, but what's interesting is he doesn't even vote.
00:14:28.000Scott Adams doesn't vote, and he's not really a Trump supporter, although he does say a lot of things that seem to I think he leans towards Trump being more persuasive than just going by his gut, because it sort of fills his...
00:14:43.000He's got this theory that aligns with his theory, so he goes along.
00:14:48.000I see him leaning into it a little bit, where it's not like he's totally objective about it.
00:14:52.000But he's lost millions of dollars because of this.
00:16:30.000My favorite Pelosi and Schumer image of all time was them with the African outfit on, on their knees, not realizing that the cloth pattern they're wearing was from a tribe that was notorious for selling slaves.
00:16:44.000They were notorious for being a major part of the slave trade.
00:16:48.000Well, so was the Democratic Party for many years.
00:19:04.000Yeah, and it depends on who's reading the study and what their bias is and what they're trying to say.
00:19:10.000But it's clear that they're trying to figure this out.
00:19:13.000I mean, obviously, it's only been around for six, seven months, and we're real confused.
00:19:19.000In many cases, a lot, like for whatever reason, their immune system has not had as many prior experiences with coronaviruses.
00:19:26.000So if your immune system has gotten a lot of colds and you fought them off, supposedly you're in a better position to deal with this than somebody who has not had that happen.
00:19:37.000The fact that we were shaking hands and on and off planes, that might be good.
00:19:41.000That might have strengthened our immune system.
00:19:42.000Well, they were saying that about people in prison.
00:19:44.000One of the reasons why the people in prison are doing so well with it, like when guys are in prison, you would say, oh, what a fucking terrible place for your immune system.
00:20:01.000They were talking about immune systems and that when you think of your immune system, you think, well, if you're healthy and calm and well slept and you're not stressed out, that's when your immune system is at its best.
00:20:13.000And those people that are in jail, stuffed in next to all these people, breathing in everybody's bacteria and all the viruses and shit that's in the air, No escape from each other.
00:20:48.000Every time I do that, I'm like, this time I'm going to get it right.
00:20:50.000Nope, I always say middle-aged, not medieval.
00:20:51.000But they're doing good with corona because they have a strong immune system, so why don't we open the comedy store up and just have the homeless be the servers?
00:20:57.000Like, why can't we open up businesses in LA and just have the homeless who've strengthened their immune systems operate the businesses?
00:22:18.000I mean, it's like, so the police like, fuck it, we don't want to do anything.
00:22:20.000And you like, you understand a lot of they're just like, listen, we're gonna sit back.
00:22:24.000And then now, a lot of areas are just being policed by criminal elements by gangs and stuff like that.
00:22:30.000Because that's what happens in a power vacuum, you know, if you get rid of The cops, I'm not saying they shouldn't be reformed or they shouldn't have all these new regulations, but if you defund them or get rid of them, somebody steps into that vacuum and it's going to be usually a gang, the mafia,
00:25:10.000I am also 100% in the belief that there's a lot of people that are doing this and following this movement because, like we were talking about before with actors, It is the trendy thing to do.
00:26:11.000They're trying to break down the fucking fence they put around the federal building, and they're trying to light that bitch on fire using Bibles.
00:27:16.000I know, but that's why these people are out throwing Bibles at the Federal Building, is because it's raining all the time.
00:27:22.000Well, I don't know what makes that place so progressive and so left-wing, but the thing is that you saw hints of this many years ago where Antifa would stop traffic.
00:29:39.000They're like people that failed at stand-up comedy in theater and they moved back to Portland from LA and now they're like, let's burn it all down.
00:29:45.000I didn't get a Comedy Central half hour.
00:30:31.000But again, it's like these people who go there, whether they're trying to light the federal building on fire or direct traffic, they have a purpose now.
00:30:39.000They have a thing, and they have a cause.
00:35:04.000You might care that she locked up people, but the Republican convention is going to be very tough to really get people mad at Kamala Harris.
00:35:10.000They're going to be like, fuck Kamala.
00:35:12.000Everyone's going to go, yeah, they're going to go, she's a cop and she locked up minorities.
00:36:45.000He cured himself by doing chest exercises and stretching his lungs out.
00:36:49.000Well, the worst part was when he pretended to come out of the basement for the first time when he had already been in a fucking fight with some guy who was riding a bike.
00:36:57.000They're pathological liars, both of them.
00:36:59.000I don't think that's what the case is.
00:37:29.000New disclosure records show Andrew Cuomo's largest hedge fund donor just funneled huge money to the governor precisely the moment Cuomo has been blocking Democratic legislators' bills to reinstate New York's financial transactions tax.
00:39:15.000They have to come in and launder their money through New York real estate.
00:39:19.000They got to come in and buy 10 apartments they don't use, and then their daughter goes to NYU. I mean, otherwise that whole city is going to fall apart.
00:41:55.000Yeah, it's weird, and they're also saying that some large number of people that get it, they have heart damage.
00:42:02.000So after it's over, they show, like that baseball player, there's a professional baseball player that has to sit out the rest of the season because he got checked out.
00:42:10.000I mean, I think he's 29 years old or something like that, and they found out that he has some inflammation in his heart.
00:42:16.000Nobody knows why any of this is happening.
00:42:19.000Well, I take it back to Brett Weinstein again, because Brett, who's a biologist, was saying that this disease has all the markers of a disease that's been manipulated for research.
00:42:32.000Now, manipulated for research, like manipulated so that they can research it or manipulated as like, how can we make something dangerous that might be a weapon?
00:42:38.000No, they manipulate it so that they can do research on it, so they can find out what kind of cures they can create for coronavirus.
00:43:14.000Like they say the one in India is so different that if we come up with a vaccine for the American version, it's not going to work on the Indian version.
00:43:21.000Is this just the rest of the history now?
00:44:57.000What that is is suspending particles in the atmosphere that are going to act as like clouds.
00:45:01.000Understood, but the reality is people get a They get a little uncomfortable when a billionaire from a lair has decided to start shooting dust into the atmosphere.
00:45:11.000And, you know, is there any democratic...
00:45:16.000Process here where anybody will ever have any say in anything ever again, or are we just going to listen to Bezos and him?
00:49:16.000I've talked to multiple people that really, truly believe in the QAnon stuff.
00:49:20.000Well, some of it, listen, some of it, you've got to give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:49:24.000It's like, I don't even blame the QAnon people as much because, like...
00:49:28.000If you were ignorant of everything and you never thought anything was conspiratorial and then Epstein and all this stuff happened, your mind would melt.
00:50:27.000Yes, Patrice O'Neill had a great point where he's like, people will be, they'll say two things that make a lot of sense and then they'll put marbles up their ass.
00:50:46.000There's more to life than politics, and there's just more to life than hunting this conspiracy forever, because none of what you think is going to happen is going to happen.
00:50:56.000I think that's part of what you just nailed it, though.
00:50:58.000There's more to life, but there's not for some people.
00:51:00.000Some people, if they put on a fucking MAGA hat, and they have the fucking liberals with a line through it, and they go out there, and they fucking, yeah!
00:51:27.000Instead, they had these pink Women for Trump flags, and they all met on a corner, and they're all waving their flags, and it's like golf people.
00:51:35.000It's like upper middle class golf people, and this is their sports.
00:52:06.000So there's like no money coming in, you're desperate, you're scared, you're blaming other people, everybody else, you don't know who the fuck is to blame.
00:52:23.000And now the only thing you could do is kind of go online for 19 hours a day and get radicalized in whatever direction.
00:52:30.000That's the thing that bothers me too, about like whenever people talk about whether it's conspiracy theorists or whatever, the one thing that drives me nuts is that people say we have to stop these conspir- like when all these COVID conspiracies were going around, Well,
00:53:10.000Well, I think it's just people get deeply uncomfortable with the idea that they're losing control of the public sphere, the public space, right?
00:53:18.000For so long, you had these mainstream media outlets.
01:02:44.000I think it's stupid not to, especially in an election that's going to be this contentious anyway.
01:02:48.000We should probably just have a regular election with masks and distancing.
01:02:51.000I wonder what it's going to be like at the polls.
01:02:53.000And then like if really elderly people, yes, you should go to nursing homes that are really elderly people and let them touch a computer screen.
01:03:03.000Like, let my mother go in there and let my mother touch it, because she loves Trump.
01:03:07.000She asked me the other day, she goes, can you get me a MAGA hat?
01:06:24.000What you're not allowed to do is have a Guantanamo Bay situation in the backstage.
01:06:31.000Of your show where everybody's walking around afraid for their life and it's like Abu Ghraib where they're hooked up to wires and they have like...
01:08:05.000And then they went on, if you could find that clip, they went on with a weird, like, diagram of how it happened, and Ellen's, like, showing the people how it happened.
01:08:13.000Not like an emotional, like, how are you feeling?
01:11:32.000Yeah, you get 34. Dude, when you do your first job in comedy, you have to join SAG, which is $3,000, so a lot of times you're like negative.
01:11:52.000You're like, you know, I know you were living here over the last seven months, assuming that your tax rate was what it is, and you budgeted for that, but no, we're going to steal your money.
01:12:27.000I work my fucking ass off 10 hours a day.
01:12:30.000I come home exhausted, try to spend some quality time with my family.
01:12:33.000I'm dodging needles in my fucking front yard, and I'm paying 16%?
01:12:37.000I don't know if he's spending quality time with the kids, but he's still like, he's like, I got some hookers and coke, and this is still a problem.
01:12:43.000He's like, they don't want to come over here and walk through tents.
01:16:29.000They did some sort of a satellite image of the United States and they found out that the large majority of methane release is coming from dumps and coming from landfills.
01:16:41.000All that food and everything's rotting and it's just going straight up in the air.
01:16:44.000Well, all of those, you know, people criticize me because it's political, but what's very interesting is like sugar gets away with everything.
01:17:48.000Yeah, this idea that you're going to save the world, that was something that was promoted by a lot of these bullshit propaganda vegan movies.
01:19:17.000When your body is drinking pasteurized homogenized milk, the idea is it can stay on the shelf longer, it could feed more people, it also lasts longer, keeps people from getting sick.
01:20:12.000You drink it with an almond milkshake.
01:20:14.000Well, you go over to Whitney's house, Whitney has all these weird plant-based things, but they're all kind of like weird plant-based chocolate pops and chocolate almond milk and...
01:20:24.000But she's very thin because she doesn't eat a lot of them.
01:22:21.000I had to get out of LA. I had to go to the desert because I couldn't handle the feeling every day that things were disintegrating minute by minute.
01:22:49.000They don't know what the fuck it's become.
01:22:50.000Dude, I listened to the episode he did with Lee when they talk about dissolving the church and was like, that was a great fucking episode, man.
01:24:22.000We were all supposed to shoot, I don't want to say what, but me and a bunch of other people were supposed to shoot something for Netflix in August in LA. That never happened.
01:24:31.000So now it's like, we don't know what the hell's going to happen with that.
01:24:34.000Yeah, I was going to try to do my next special right around the new year.
01:24:53.000Me and Chappelle were doing a bunch of dates.
01:24:55.000And the thing was to come into like January, February, just fucking coming in hot and do my next special.
01:25:01.000And now it's like, part of me, look, I'm not happy that this is happening for anybody that's sick or anybody who lost a business, anybody, but you have to be able to adapt and look at the bright side.
01:25:12.000So for me, what I'm thinking is right now is, at the very least, what I can do is use this as an opportunity to examine what I want to say in my act.
01:25:33.000And then go forth once the year rolls over, I think around 20, 21, January, February, that's most likely, if there's a possibility of doing stand-up again, that's when it's going to open up.
01:26:18.000I think that you can reach herd immunity with this at a lower percentage than a lot of other things because they say that we have exposure to previous coronaviruses and that you could maybe start reaching some level of herd immunity around 20 or 30 percent as opposed to 60 percent, which would mean that New York,
01:26:34.000I mean, the New York COVID cases are very low.
01:26:37.000That's one of the reasons I'm doing that tent, is because they're very low right now.
01:27:42.000It's the one thing in the desert, when you go to a restaurant in the desert, you eat the food, you're like chewing it, you're like, what the fuck is this?
01:28:03.000Did you previously have experience with Palm Springs?
01:28:05.000No, but I was in a car and then the riot started.
01:28:10.000So I was in a car, and the riot started, and I literally, instead of going back to my house, because I live right off Sunset, an apartment right off Sunset, instead of going back, I just got on a 10 East.
01:29:34.000East Coast is where I was born and raised.
01:29:36.000Which makes sense that you're in the Palm Desert.
01:29:38.000Yeah, because it's, well, what are you going to do?
01:29:40.000I can't go move back to New York, get shot in the face.
01:29:43.000So I'm staying there until December, until the holidays, and then I'll figure out, you know, who knows, we'll see what's happening in the world.
01:29:48.000The violence rate in New York right now is off the charts.
01:30:06.000In five years, a bunch of rich kids will move in there just like they moved in there in 2009. They'll start doing alternative comedy, dressing like fucking hit flappers.
01:34:03.000And they wear these fucking polos and they have no fucking money.
01:34:05.000And that's the kind of guy that I am where it's like, I always want to look, but they're always sunburned and they've always got like an ill-fitting thing like the collars, like this collar's all fucked up because I tumble dry it in the wash like an animal.
01:34:18.000I look like a golf pro who's failed at everything, and his wife laughed like- John Daly's brother.
01:34:24.000Yeah, yeah, I mean, but that's the look.
01:34:26.000When you have the look, you just honor the look.
01:35:16.000They're for dudes with, like, small shoulders.
01:35:18.000You know the- You see Dolce& Gabbana, like, they're just- They're women- So I bought this Versace shirt, which was like blue and mesh, and it was just a night.
01:35:27.000I mean, I look like Grover or something, like Cookie Monster walking around.
01:35:31.000And then I just spilled something on it, and then I realized like designer clothes, you can't ever spill anything on it ever, or you have to like throw it out.
01:35:39.000Like those types of material, it just doesn't work.
01:35:41.000And I'm like, oh, the people that wear these don't eat, or when they eat, they don't eat in a way that gets things on them.
01:35:47.000Or when they get things dirty, they just throw them away.
01:36:00.000To the point where I've actually, I remember when Kanye West was getting into that, and he was making his stuff and have people wear it on runways.
01:36:06.000I almost want to be there to see what one of those things are like, because I bet some of the people there are probably so preposterous Yeah.
01:36:34.000Like there's nothing real about it other than what's created.
01:36:38.000Our business is kind of like that too, where it's like, there's no nuts and bolts and it's all pretty much like, where's popular sentiment going?
01:37:30.000That's one of the things that I thought was very interesting about Trump, was that he was like, you know, listen, we're getting fucked by China.
01:38:55.000And he's saying, listen, there's real evidence to show that, particularly in the early stages of this disease, it stops the virus from spreading.
01:39:02.000It's a malaria disease that's been used forever.
01:39:05.000New York told me that it was like the Lazarus drug, like people just getting up and walking out of the hot, like people literally that came in with it, if they used it early enough, it was really good.
01:39:13.000Right, but then you hear these studies where people are saying, no, in fact, more people died when they're on it.
01:40:37.000So you better make sure that it's something good.
01:40:38.000But I've been trying to do better things and, you know, swimming a lot, working out, things like that.
01:40:44.000Well, have you ever talked, like, when evolutionary biologists talk about addictive personalities and obsessive personalities, obsessive behavior, and they say that you're actually, this is very controversial, but they think, some of them think, that you're actually tapping into a trait that would make you get very successful at things like hunting.
01:41:03.000Like you get obsessed at something, so you want to perfect it, you're obsessed by it, so you become better at it, so you become more successful, so you survive because you have food.
01:42:54.000And podcasting is like, we're essentially, it's like, other than being a whore, a hooker, it's like the oldest profession, because we're just talking.
01:43:02.000Sort of, but we're doing it in a new way, where people are doing other things, and they're getting entertained while they're doing other things.
01:43:44.000Twitter, all these things have no context.
01:43:45.000When I did the Houston Improv, which is the only date that I did over the last few months, it was like I felt like I was getting away with something.
01:43:53.000And then I realized I kind of have almost like a low-key depression from not doing stand-up.
01:43:59.000It's not bad, but it's like this is what it is.
01:44:02.000And this is, I hate to tell you all, you folks out there, regular people who do not kill, if you do not go on stage and kill, you do not know what that feels like.
01:45:33.000I'm curious as to what it's like, and I've shit on them, and I still may after I do it, but I want to see what it's like to just do it in the circumstances it can be done right now.
01:45:47.000Are you going to do one with Bert, those drive-in things you were talking about doing those?
01:46:42.000But it's also, you know, the thing about COVID, it does give you an opportunity, if you're a comic, to sort of sit down and rethink things.
01:46:50.000And also to really appreciate what it's like to do stand-up again.
01:47:21.000And then it's my home from Long Island.
01:47:24.000So I'm going to have a lot of fun there with the people that come out.
01:47:28.000And I think because it's going to be a really great place to ease back in because I'm going to be able to do some material, go off the top of my head, know that the crowd has a lot of shared experiences with me because we all grew up in the same place.
01:47:40.000It's kind of a training wheels to kind of come back in and then hopefully I'm hoping by this winter we're kind of start revving up again.
01:49:29.000Well, you know, I'm an epidemiologist, and what you see is a lot of times the virus is just, it goes into the hosts, and then eventually the virus is like, eh.
01:50:07.000This is a different kind of disease, though.
01:50:10.000I think the big problem is the bigger issue actually now is economic, even though COVID's a massive issue.
01:50:15.000I think the bigger issue is how are we going to stop 28 million people from being evicted or foreclosed on because they couldn't go to jobs?
01:50:23.000The government literally shut down the economy.
01:52:20.000And there's just more to life than red and blue and Republican or Democrat and all these motherfuckers are trying to kill you and they're all fucking losers.
01:54:22.000It's a dystopian world we're heading into.
01:54:24.000Well the real problem is if everything goes into like a Ready Player One type situation where whatever they manufacture on a computer with artificial reality is more interesting.
01:55:19.000They just enjoy putting something warm and doughy in their mouth, vegging out, and fucking waking up the next day and go, shit, I'm here again.
01:59:42.000Best for their health, their well-being, and for their families.
01:59:46.000That's what real leadership looks like.
01:59:50.000And when Joe talks about his priorities, he knows and he cares about the fact that we have, as a nation, witnessed 165,000 people who just in the last few months have died in our country.
02:00:07.000We know that those individuals represent families, loved ones, grandparents, parents, sisters and brothers, aunts and uncles.
02:08:01.000That's why a lot of those kids are going to this just TikTok-y like dancing and nihilism and just being like, yeah, nothing means anything.
02:08:10.000It's also, I mean, imagine being a kid during the formative time of your life, the world gets shut down, you're stuck at home, and you can't even see your friends, you can't go to school, you gotta do school over a laptop.
02:11:58.000And there doesn't seem to be a huge...
02:12:00.000You know, push for that kind of clarity.
02:12:02.000My real fear is the thing that we were talking about earlier, that businesses are not going to have enough money to reopen, and that money won't be available.
02:12:11.000So how do you get the economy back on track?
02:12:14.000Well, I think it's got to bottom out, probably.
02:12:16.000And unfortunately, you've got to protect vulnerable people.
02:12:18.000But the bottoming out, and I don't mean bottoming out completely, but...
02:12:22.000The real estate value is being lowered.
02:12:31.000And I think eventually what happens is you have a situation where, because of economic turmoil, you might have...
02:12:38.000But yeah, the businesses you're talking about are probably fucked.
02:12:41.000But those people might have a shot in three years when rents are lower and the cost of financing is potentially probably not lower, but maybe if we keep the cost of financing low.
02:12:54.000Interest rates are going to creep up and it's just going to cost people a lot of A lot more money to borrow money.
02:13:00.000So much of the economy is run on just this cheap credit that we've had since Obama and Schiff and all those guys explain it where it's just like it's a credit card and we're just basically borrowing money at close to no interest and businesses are expanding and people are able to get cars and go on vacations and get mortgages.
02:13:19.000When those interest rates creep up, I mean, it's just a perfect storm of problems.
02:14:58.000Well, I mean, I don't know if they can.
02:15:00.000The body cam footage shows that this, you know, they have Floyd in the car and he's out.
02:15:05.000I mean, listen, everything Chauvin did was disgusting and horrible.
02:15:08.000And but I don't know if you're going to be able to prove to a jury that he intended to kill this guy, murder him, or he was subduing a suspect who was resisting arrest.