In this episode, we have our first guest, Olivia Grace. Olivia is a stand-up comedian, writer, and all-around goofball. We talk about how she got her start in comedy, how she fell in love with standup, and the time she pooped her pants in front of a live audience at a comedy club. We also talk about what it's like to be hungover in college, and how to deal with the stress of being a comedian. We hope you enjoy this episode and that it makes you feel a little better about yourself, because we know that being hungover can have a big impact on your mental health, especially when it comes to pooping your pants. We hope that you enjoy the episode, and that you can relate to some of the stories we discuss in this episode. If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! or wherever else you re listening to this podcast. We ll see you next Tuesday! xoxo, Allie and Grace <3 - Emily & Olivia - Grace & Allie (Music: "Poop in the Pants" - "The Good Life" by The Good Life) Music: "A Little Late" by Jeff Perla ( ) Thank you, Grace ( ) and Allie ( & Alli ( ) Thank you so much for joining us on this episode! - Thank you to Allie for being here, Grace & Olivia ( ) for coming on the podcast and for being our guest, Grace for being a good friend and for coming out to talk about poop in front and talking about poop and comedy and comedy, and for letting us talk about it all of our lives and being so much of it all. We are so grateful to have the opportunity to come on the pod. Thank you for being so open and being funny and being open about it. We really appreciate it. - Emily and Olivia for being open and letting us know that we can be vulnerable and being vulnerable and open up about our lives, and we hope that we all have the chance to laugh about it, and being a little bit more than we can do that. (Thank you for listening to us all of that we know we can have the right way to be vulnerable in this kind of stuff like that. We love you, thank you, Olivia and Grace. ~
00:03:50.000Yeah so I when I started I was living in Long Beach at my parents house and so I would go back and forth between Orange County and LA and Olivia was in Orange County and she was like the first person my age kind of you know that I like met and so we became friends and I was like I was like you're so funny like it's so cool that she had already had so much time under her belt when I was like 18 you know yeah yeah it's crazy so that's a I didn't know you could start until you're 21 No,
00:05:36.000And I remember Red Band was there and George Perez and on my 21st birthday they each gave me $21.
00:05:43.000And then on my 22nd birthday I was at the Comedy Store and they gave me $22 and I was like, you guys better live for a long time.
00:05:50.000That's a crazy place to be when you're 21 years old, you know, to be around, I mean, just the people you just named, George Perez and Brian Redband, and you're 21, like, hello!
00:06:04.000Well, that place is, I mean, especially when you're dealing with, you know, so many, like, you're going there, you're 21 years old, and you're just seeing Like Jessel Nick and all these big time headliners and Joey Diaz and Chris Rock shows up and Dave Chappelle's there and you're fucking 21. You're walking around going,
00:07:59.000And then I had been doing that for a couple months, I'd say, just like doing the hosting spot or like little opening spots at the improv and the comedy store.
00:08:09.000And then you were like, oh, I I was like, oh, I saw that you're going to be in Vegas this week.
00:08:13.000I think I'm going to drive and come watch you because I'd never seen you in a bigger venue than a comedy club.
00:08:19.000And you were like, okay, do you want to open?
00:08:23.000And I was like, well, I wasn't hoping you'd say that, but I was kind of hoping you'd say that.
00:08:48.000I mean, how many times have you been paid to do stand-up, other than the times opening for me and, you know, like, a couple little gigs on the road?
00:08:55.000Yeah, I mean, I never really got paid to do comedy, like, besides, like, drinks or, like, a couple bucks for gas.
00:09:02.000So you do the Mirage, which is like...
00:09:05.000I think the Mirage is 1,300 people or 1,200 people.
00:09:10.000Then we do a fucking gigantic basketball arena...
00:09:14.000You know what I think helped me with the Mirage?
00:09:17.000Was in my head, I was like, 1200 is giant.
00:09:20.000I was like, this is going to be huge, crazy, and I over-hyped it so much that by the time I saw the venue, it was so beautiful and it felt intimate for some reason.
00:09:32.000Well, it's the most intimate place in Vegas in terms of those big theaters you can play.
00:11:24.000That was fun, but that was cool because it was outdoors and I was like, there's a lawn?
00:11:28.000It was just crazy because when I was little I would always go to concerts and I would always watch the performer and I'd be like, I want to do that.
00:11:36.000So the first time I got to do the arena and the amphitheater I was like, I'm literally doing what I've always wanted to do.
00:11:43.000Yeah, those shows are fucking awesome, but I still think 200 people, that's the right size.
00:12:08.000I like the 200, 300 range, or even smaller, because that's when you get the honest feedback.
00:12:15.000And I think that's why it's fun to also do the arena or amphitheater, because it's the jokes that you've been working on that you know work.
00:12:22.000And so you're getting the response that you want from those jokes, and you kind of almost expect that response.
00:12:27.000But when you're doing the smaller, intimate shows, that's when you get the pause where you're like, huh, maybe that joke needs tweaking, or you can figure out.
00:13:17.000I think I grew up always being on the internet and interacting with strangers online, so I felt like I was prepared for something like a Zoom show, and I also was like, okay, don't look...
00:13:30.000Don't expect to get anything out of this or get the same feeling out of this.
00:15:16.000Well, in their defense, like, they're on the border of Mexico, and that is a place that has literally changed very little since people came across the fucking country and covered wagons.
00:18:55.000You can get lung cancer from toxins in the air, you can get lung cancer from genetics, you can get environmental shit if you work in a factory that has a lot of weird fumes.
00:19:04.000But there's also so many things that kill people, like fast food is so unhealthy.
00:21:43.000It's fun going out to eat with you, because when I was growing up, I have two older sisters, and my dad was kind of a single dad, shopped food on a budget.
00:21:52.000And so he'd be like, you know the drill, no soda, water only, like the bare minimum.
00:21:58.000So then when we get to go out after shows and eat, I'm like, I can get two entrees if I want and an appetizer?
00:22:05.000Yeah, that is the good thing about growing up poor is that you really appreciate when, you know, you get good stuff.
00:22:52.000You were with your mom for a little while?
00:22:54.000Yeah, but I kept my place because I was like, who knows how long this is going to last, who knows if I want to stay at my mom's house, whatever.
00:23:00.000It's nice to know I have that as an option because my parents live in the greater Los Angeles area.
00:23:05.000I read that there was a ban on evictions and forcing people to pay rent.
00:23:34.000That's why I was like, I'm going to pay mine now because who knows how much money I'm going to have saved up after this, so I might as well just pay.
00:23:42.000Luckily, my rent is cheap, so it's manageable.
00:23:46.000And if I ever was in a pinch, I know my parents would help me out.
00:23:49.000How long did you think this was going to last?
00:23:53.000Everyone was saying it was going to last like three months, but I was like, this is going to last longer.
00:23:58.000There's no way things are just going to be like, okay, if we do this, it's all going to go back to normal.
00:24:04.000It just felt too big for it to be over that quickly.
00:24:07.000Well, I was optimistic, unfortunately.
00:24:09.000I really did think it was going to be three months.
00:24:11.000I thought it was going to be two months, really.
00:24:13.000I was like, look, you get sick, and then you're only sick for like a week, right?
00:24:19.000So if everybody just stays home, the people that are sick will get better.
00:30:27.000I mean, I guess that's kind of a country that's separate from us because you could walk over there, but I mean, you could walk to Mexico too.
00:32:05.000The reason why is they drive on the left side of the road because if you were a knight and you were in combat, you would want to have your enemy on your right side.
00:32:16.000So if you were riding towards them, you would want to have your enemy so you could slash at them with your dominant arm.
00:34:14.000I remember reading about Matthew Broderick, and he was over in Ireland, I believe, and he got in a fatal car crash, smashed into someone, and the speculation was that he was on the wrong side of the road, like he was coming home from the set, and then he fucked up.
00:34:27.000I remember reading that, I don't know if that's the case, but I do know he was in a bad car crash, and I was like, oh my god, you gotta be...
00:34:33.000On your fucking P's and Q's if you're driving the left side of the road.
00:34:36.000Do you know when you're driving, you get in that weird auto mode where you just...
00:34:42.000You ever be in your car and then all of a sudden...
00:34:44.000I don't know how I get home sometimes.
00:36:42.000Are you going to find out where I take naps?
00:36:43.000I keep my laptop on with the camera on when I'm pooping just in case.
00:36:47.000If the government's watching, I want them to get the full range of me.
00:36:50.000I feel like if they're paying attention to hedge fund guys who are trying to overthrow governments, they're paying attention to important shit.
00:37:27.000But that's the thing, to get back to, like, being so confused about information now, because there's so much information, I don't know what to believe.
00:37:36.000Isn't it crazy, like, having a podcast and then, like, saying something and being like, I don't know if that's right?
00:38:24.000That's the crazy thing too about the internet is that some people will just like assume that everything you say is real and it's like, no, there's some, you know, there's some like...
00:38:35.000Here, I'll send this to you, Jamie, right now.
00:38:38.000This is Tim when he was getting his COVID test.
00:38:42.000This is something that I'm sure people are going to be pissed about.
00:38:44.000But this is a perfect example of what I like.
00:38:49.000I don't need everyone to be serious or telling the truth.
00:38:54.000And I like the fact that I can tell the difference.
00:38:57.000And I like when people say outrageous shit that they don't really mean.
00:39:01.000And that's one of the things that frustrates me the most about this internet culture is that people love to take something like that Tim Dillon would say in this clip and put it in quotes and pretend that he really means it.
00:40:58.000Like in saying things you don't mean are fun.
00:41:01.000I remember when it was like me, you, and Santino out somewhere and we were getting brunch and I was like wearing a shirt and you're like, what the fuck is that tattoo on your arm?
00:41:09.000And I was like, what's that tattoo on your arm?
00:47:41.000Like, you have to be boozing and schmoozing and, like, having a good time after the show and, like, partying it up and have this, like, rock star attitude.
00:47:50.000And then I realized that there were so many successful comedians who don't drink, and I was like, okay, maybe this is, like, possible.
00:49:14.000I used to be so insecure about my dumb jokes, which I think are funny, but it's not like I'm breaking boundaries or opening people's minds to new thoughts.
00:49:25.000But the problem is the people that want to do that all suck.
00:49:28.000The people that want to break boundaries, the people that want to open people's minds, they're almost always annoying.
00:54:26.000But in comedy, that's a combination that exists all the time.
00:54:29.000You will see weird combinations like that all the time, where if you're on a 10-person show, like at the store, where 10 people are doing 15-minute sets, you are likely to see the full spectrum of comedy.
00:54:44.000That's why I like the original room so much, because it goes until 2 in the morning, sometimes longer, and you get to see the weirdest stuff.
00:54:55.000I mean, and I became a giant fan of hers and I put the post on my Instagram because me and Kreischer, we did a show, this big ass sold out show in the main room and then Bert and I sat down in the back of the room and Laura was on stage and there was like maybe...
00:55:58.000She has it like color coded jokes that like really work, jokes that need some work on them, brand new jokes and then like certain parts of the joke are color coded differently and I'm like my brain does not work like that.
00:56:09.000Does she use highlights or does she use tabs?
00:56:10.000She does it on her computer and phone.
00:56:45.000I mean, I know it's probably a standard writing exercise, but I wasn't aware of it.
00:56:49.000Yeah, it's probably just a great way to really figure out your perspective on things and figure out your point of view and the angle that you want to take.
00:56:58.000For a bit, it seems like the perfect combination because you always want to combine those three things.
00:57:02.000What scares the fuck out of me, what I love, and what I hate.
00:57:32.000Everything's starting to rock and roll and kicking up and you start to do sets and it's picking up and it's picking up and it's picking up and all of a sudden boom!
00:57:40.000I did my first headlining show, and then I was on my way to do my second headlining weekend in Denver at Comedy Works.
00:57:47.000And then the day that I got there, things got really crazy, and they were talking about the LA lockdown, and I was like, I don't know what that means.
00:57:53.000Like, I can't do the rest of the shows here.
00:57:55.000So then I flew home, canceled the rest of the shows.
00:57:58.000Oh, you were worried that they were going to lock down where you can't fly in?
00:59:35.000I was saying this on the podcast the other day.
00:59:37.000When you become a governor, you don't become a governor because you pass a bunch of tests that show that you accurately know how to handle each and every situation.
00:59:45.000You become a governor because you're popular.
01:00:25.000The virus apparently has a very difficult time replicating in your system when you have all those things.
01:00:30.000And this is all, they don't know why, they don't exactly know what the deal is, but there's some direct evidence that points to that, including a bunch of studies that have been done on people that are in the ICU. More than 80% of them in the ICU have low levels of vitamin D,
01:00:46.000insufficient levels of vitamin D. Only 4% have sufficient levels.
01:01:14.000You know when there's certain people, I've told you this before, but there's certain jokes that just always stand out to you, like you always just kind of like think about them.
01:01:21.000The joke about houses and how underwater there's no houses, there's nowhere to hide.
01:04:11.000This is probably dumb, but when you smoke anything, marijuana, cigarettes, whatever, does that go into your bloodstream or just your lungs?
01:04:21.000It goes into your bloodstream from your lungs.
01:07:03.000I think you reach enough followers and likes where companies start coming in and being like, we can profit off of putting something in your video and making money off of you.
01:07:13.000And then apparently, you know, they have enough talent to be in like Super Bowl commercials and whatever.
01:07:55.000The first one, to the left, where she's TikTok-ing, where she's dancing and moving.
01:07:59.000In the future, if you were watching a movie that was made in the 1980s about how fucked up the world would be in 2020, and this was something that just millions and millions and millions of people would be into, just seeing people do this...
01:08:52.000She posts a lot of YMH clips on there and stuff, but she posts what her feed looks like on her stories on Instagram, and it'll be the most country, bumpkin type of people, no teeth, kissing their brothers and sisters.
01:10:45.000Because the two of them together, like, Rich is like one of the best guys ever at taking a joke.
01:10:50.000He's like when on the Opie and Anthony show like he was fantastic at going with it and taking a joke and then when they would fuck with each other like Rich Voss comes from this old-school New York City stand-up world where there's always some shit going on in the crowd There's always some people that are causing a ruckus.
01:11:10.000There's always and he's just a master at handling shit like that just so Relaxed, under pressure, and work in the crowd.
01:19:04.000Like, if you look at, like, specific body types, there's, like, places that you recognize as having, like, enormous body types.
01:19:11.000That's why I was saying that, because they're, and coordinated, I added, because it would be going to, like, scouting and recruiting, because you would have to, there's a movie Shaq was in called Blue Chips in the 90s that, like, You went and found the guy, which is what they do in the NBA now.
01:19:25.000You can make some guy from Africa, for instance, who doesn't know how to play like the Antetokounmpo brothers who came from Africa and went to Greece.
01:19:34.000Tall, giant, skinny, uncoordinated, but have athletic ability way more than anybody could ever do.
01:19:41.000So if you can get them to shoot a little bit, get them practicing shooting, they can be the best basketball player of all time, which you're seeing actually right now with one of them.
01:19:48.000He's only like 24. And he is, they call him the Greek freak, he's an insane basketball player.
01:19:54.000And his little brothers are now getting recruited and put on every team.
01:19:58.000If you find somebody deep in like I don't know where they're finding people in China, but there's probably some people deep in Russia or who knows where.
01:23:23.000Because there's a lot of kids on there, they figure out how that algorithm works to help themselves get bigger on it or whatnot.
01:23:30.000So they say that if you start a new account, one of the first things they'll do with one of your first couple posts is they'll almost make it go viral.
01:24:04.000I mean, they're trying to rope you in.
01:24:06.000The best way to rope you in is give you some success, right?
01:24:09.000I mean, they're not giving you money, but no one...
01:24:12.000Well, don't you think that in a way...
01:24:14.000Well, I guess it's not really comparable.
01:24:16.000I was talking about the Apple algorithm they use for podcasts, where the new...
01:24:21.000It's probably similar a little bit, because the way you first started, yeah, they'll shoot you up to the top, so you can be like, we have the most successful podcast, and we just started?
01:25:39.000Dude, how crazy was Rob Lowe saying that he was on the worst show on television, meaning it was the least rated show on television, and it was 19 million people watched it?
01:26:39.000I'm like, I have a resting bitch face, I have a resting bitch voice, like, and I'm going to be doing it on a couch and I look like I'm resting bitch, you know?
01:27:57.000Because I think, like, I like names of shows that are interesting, but if I want to see the Joey Diaz show, I want to see the Joey Diaz show.
01:29:41.000I had a friend I was with who tested positive and I'm like, that sucks because then you have to act like you have an STD or something and text her, hey, we had a really good time last week but I have some bad news.
01:31:39.000Remember, I was telling you, they were saying there's like these giant L.A. Hollywood Hills mansion parties that are going to start shutting down.
01:31:48.000The cameras that are usually doing the high-speed chases, they were like watching these.
01:31:52.000Well, my, yeah, that thing's weird because the mayor, rather, is going to shut off the power and shut off the water to these people, right?
01:32:02.000There's a certain amount of houses, I think, that no one lives in.
01:32:04.000They're just normally rented out for houses for parties in general, and they're probably, people were just like, oh, we're going to use one of those.
01:32:10.000That was like what Bilzerian was doing, right?
01:32:12.000Yeah, he rented this big giant-ass house in Bel Air and he'd have these big crazy influencer parties.
01:32:20.000If you live in these neighborhoods and you're a regular person with a regular life, and then all of a sudden an influencer party moves in next door, and all day long they're just blasting music and fucking smoking weed, and you're like, oh no!
01:32:34.000Yeah, well I remember Jake and Logan Paul used to have a house right by the improv.
01:33:23.000Well, it comes out in these big bursts, too.
01:33:27.000Like what happened in Chicago, these big bursts of looting.
01:33:30.000And you're watching on television and you're like, this is such a crazy virus that's in the air.
01:33:34.000But it's indicative of all these people needing things and being broke as fuck, man.
01:33:38.000Like not having any work at all for months and months and months and watch the economy crumble with no like you would steal too I think we would all steal if we were 20 years old and fucked up and You're that that's where you live and everybody else is stealing like let's do it.
01:33:52.000You run in that store You know There's a thing that happens to people when there's a bunch of us and things go sideways like chaos big chaos moments and Well, there's always chaos, but it's like somewhat controlled, you know?
01:34:07.000The chaos is organized in a way where you feel like there's no chaos and things are smooth.
01:34:11.000And I think this just kind of cracked it open where it's like, oh, we can just kind of do whatever.
01:34:16.000Well, the thin veneer of civilization has been exposed.
01:34:21.000There's some cracks, and you see right through it.
01:34:24.000And you saw through it during the looting.
01:34:25.000In Santa Monica, I was watching this guy run around with a gun, and he's pointing it at people, and this other guy was yelling at him, and he's sticking the gun at him, and then he runs into traffic, and people are honking, this guy's got a gun, and there's just people running out of stores stealing shit.
01:34:38.000And I remember watching that video going, whoa, this is Santa Monica?
01:36:05.000That is violence, but it's just violence in the most controlled and safe way.
01:36:10.000What I'm talking about is lawless violence.
01:36:12.000When shit breaks out like a scrap in a parking lot when people are fighting, that's when things are strange.
01:36:18.000Because that's that feeling like fucking anything can happen.
01:36:21.000Someone can shoot somebody, somebody can run people over.
01:36:23.000People generally never run people over on purpose, but they do when they're yelling at each other.
01:36:28.000Like if you're at a gas station, you see someone fucking run someone over on a YouTube video, you're like, oh my god, like what is happening?
01:37:04.000This shit's about to go down later, and it definitely did.
01:37:06.000I remember seeing the SWAT team get up at the end of the street, knee-knocker bullets getting blasted out, tear gas, almost like what's been going on now.
01:37:15.000But as you were sort of saying, I was like, actually, that one time after the Conor and Khabib fight, I was in the crowd right where that was happening.
01:37:24.000For about three minutes, it felt crazy.
01:37:26.000And then they kind of got a hold of everything and they were like, it's fine, but it felt nuts there for a second.
01:37:34.000That was one of those moments where, you know, those lawless melee moments.
01:37:39.000That was pretty controlled as far as a lawless melee.
01:37:42.000There was a bunch of police around or whatever, but just for that little spot, because I was right there and there was some drunk guy next to me.
01:37:47.000The thing about that one, though, it was so entertaining because it was two of the best fighters in the world involved in post-fight brawls, right?
01:37:56.000So Connors getting beat up by these dudes who were jumping over the cage.
01:38:00.000Complete chaos, excitement, and it's just like, hey, we got overtime.
01:38:03.000But that's what I think kept people from fighting in the crowd.
01:38:06.000What they were seeing was so entertaining.
01:38:08.000You don't get in a fight in the middle of a great fight.
01:38:10.000You get in a fight when something happens and then you decide...
01:38:22.000That's the only time I've felt that again.
01:38:24.000When the cars were getting flipped, me and my friends, we knew better than to get in it.
01:38:29.000Doesn't it feel like something changes in the air?
01:38:33.000Yeah, plus you could smell the tear gas that day, but yeah Yeah, but there's something about like chaos where I think it's because of war I think every human being that's alive today is the descendant of people who are successful in war It just seems like war has always been around right and ever since the first you know really Primitive primates hit each other with rocks and figured out that it's a better way to do it than just biting each other.
01:39:00.000You know, the first animal that figured out how to start, you know, attacking other groups and dominate them and gain success and gain their food and gain their women.
01:39:10.000They've just been doing that ever since.
01:39:11.000So we are the people that survived that.
01:39:14.000I think there's a switch that goes off when there's like a riot, when it's some chaos.
01:39:19.000Any fucking thing can happen right now.
01:39:22.000And people do shit they would never do.
01:39:24.000It's like a melee button that gets hit.
01:40:18.000Like, if it's already five months in, and I know this is gonna go on until January, how do I get out of this?
01:40:26.000Yeah, and it's like when things open up and I can start doing shows again, it's like, but am I gonna be doing enough shows to, like, be, like, am I gonna have to work at a chicken wings restaurant again?
01:42:00.000Well, you don't want to shoot the young ones unless they have an overpopulation of them, and then they give out what they call a spike tag, because they would call that a spike elk.
01:47:57.000Are you eagerly anticipating what's going to happen during the election?
01:48:02.000Are you weirded out by, like, the possibility that no matter who wins, it could be chaos?
01:48:07.000Yeah, I think, like what you were saying, it's like it's already, you know, we already kind of see through the government and realize it's all pretty fucked, regardless of whoever wins, no matter how good the candidate is.
01:48:17.000But I also think that this has shown us, like, we do have so much power to influence what happens.
01:48:23.000It's not so much who the figure is or the person wearing the suit, it's more about, like, people coming together and, like, making some change themselves.
01:48:32.000You sound like a person who bought in all the political propaganda that they're pumping out in the news right now.
01:48:37.000It's really about big businesses and special interests making as much money as possible and keeping people fat and stupid.
01:48:43.000And they do their best to keep us uneducated, trapped inside our house with low vitamin D. And then they create viruses.
01:48:50.000And then they release those viruses on purpose.
01:50:00.000I feel like most people are so unprepared for something this stressful and anything that's really stressful like that gets you so out of your head.
01:50:07.000And when everybody's out of their head and no one can just calm down, it's not a good combination.
01:50:23.000That's why I know it sounds so Miss Congeniality, but I think like if people were just like nicer to each other, it sounds so corny, but not all the time.
01:50:32.000It doesn't need to be like phony niceness, but rather than being like mean or negative or attacking, just don't say...
01:50:46.000You know, and as much as I think that universal basic income, like one of the things is this whole pandemic shit, it's shown us that it's not a bad idea to have a certain amount of money that you have allocated to everybody so that they could pay their bills and pay for food.
01:51:01.000It seems like we should have figured that out.
01:51:03.000And Andrew Yang was talking about this in terms of automation, but...
01:51:07.000It's just as important, or more important, with this, with the pandemic.
01:51:58.000Because I was thinking, I'm like, okay, well, if comedy's dead and there's, like, I can either sell chicken wings, but, like, I don't know.
01:52:17.000But there's a lot of reluctant hoes I'm a scared hoe.
01:52:21.000On the inside, I'm like, I'm a bad bitch.
01:52:23.000I listen to Meg Thee Stallion, Cardi B, Wet Ass Pussies, My Anthem, and then I'll talk to a guy on a dating app, and I'm like, do you want to go to the park?
01:55:09.000But he figured out a way to get people to pay attention because That generally, like, being the most skillful is great, but you want people to pay attention.
01:55:18.000So you want to be like a Mike Tyson guy who knocks everybody out.
01:55:21.000Well, if you're not a Mike Tyson guy that knocks everybody out, the best way to get people to pay attention is make them want you to lose.
01:56:38.000If there's more camaraderie and understanding and seeing that people like Ben or Alex Jones, all your fun friends, you know, they're all people.
01:57:23.000Yeah, and there's a narrative that people create.
01:57:26.000They assume that they know things about you and want to create this story to make it look a certain way to validate their point when it's like no one knows anyone entirely.
01:58:38.000They run into him and they're like, shit!
01:58:40.000Yeah, but being gay or having something that makes you stand out doesn't make you a...
01:58:44.000Well they have a problem like if he has opinions on trans people or if he has opinions on even on gay people even on like his his opinions are he thinks what he thinks and he's smart enough to be able to express it in a way that's very difficult to argue yeah and because of that people they get pissy about it I remember what I was talking about like what was the initial point Uh,
01:59:16.000What were you talking about right before that, though?
01:59:18.000Um, just about, fuck, people deserving second chances and redemption, and that we're all material things, like you can take away someone's money or whatever, they have enough money, they should be fine.
02:00:36.000If I'm trying to do something crazy, I will, but if I'm just kind of like cruising around trying to work on my ollies and shavits and whatnot, I won't wear the pads.
02:00:46.000But if I'm trying to like drop in, which I'm really afraid to do, then I'll put on like the knee pads, wrist guards, uh, helmet.
02:05:26.000So if a person says all these things you agree with, and then you find this one thing, instead of saying, Bob, I'm totally with you on all of that, but sometimes the people that are eating fast food are just poor.
02:05:41.000A person, like, when you have an opinion, if you put out a tweet, like, one of the things I see people get attacked the most for is errant views in tweets.
02:05:59.000You're thinking out loud, but you're thinking in a typed form, which is weird.
02:06:02.000So if you see it in a typed form, like if you said something fucked up to me, but it was just in the moment, you said something, you thought it was funny, it was fucked up, that's one thing.
02:06:11.000But if you write it down, that's a different thing.
02:06:14.000And it's a thing we don't really understand.
02:06:15.000Like, you see something written, like, I know what you said, but I'm going to decide that you meant it this way.
02:06:20.000And you can change it and switch it around and move it.
02:06:23.000And we were talking about this earlier, that you could even take a thing that would make sense if you said it, like, how about suck it, bitch?
02:06:30.000Like, if you just say that out of nowhere...
02:06:33.000But you write it down, it's like, what does that mean?
02:07:01.000It's like I feel like everyone hopefully you're like trying to grow as a person and learn new things and have new ideas and so it's like if I said something in 2014 it's probably not how I feel about something now.
02:09:25.000Yeah, it's like any language, where it's like, if you want to get fluent in it, you want to be talking in it all the time, and I don't really have a lot of deaf friends around to speak to, but it was cool going to, like, those deaf meetups at Starbucks.
02:09:55.000But I would have to tell them slow, slow.
02:09:58.000Do you think that when you get to a point like that interpreter at the concert, you get that good at sign language, you could communicate as clearly?
02:10:26.000But it's like if you go to a different part, like if you go to a different state, sometimes the way that people speak, maybe like in Texas, in certain rural parts, you wouldn't really understand certain things that they say or how they say them.
02:10:39.000Like you can say doctor like this or like this, but if you're learning and you only know this way to say it, then if someone does that, you're like, what the fuck does that mean?
02:11:36.000And when I came out I had this idea that alien life If it wanted to communicate with us would come up with a way like a type of language that everyone could understand like a language that got right into your brain a Language that instead of you having to interpret what the sounds mean and turn them into words It's some new kind of technology that allow like as they're making this sound as they're putting out the signal it's going straight into you and And you automatically understand
02:12:52.000I've been excited for the movie to come out for a while.
02:12:54.000I think there's a guy named Ray Kurzweil and he's this brilliant guy who wants to live to be a thousand years old and he's got this series of patents that he's come up with.
02:13:06.000I mean he's really like a legitimately genius guy and I got a chance to interview him once way back.
02:13:12.000But one of the things that we talked about was he was talking about downloading consciousness into a computer.
02:13:19.000And they think that there's going to come a point in time where you will be eternal because you're going to figure out a way to take whoever Ali Mikofsky is and put it in a computer and download it.
02:13:29.000And your material body, your physical body, your biological body won't mean anything anymore.
02:13:33.000You're going to exist as you inside this computer, inside this thing.
02:13:40.000I've always thought that that's probably what alien life is.
02:13:45.000What alien life is is something that has gotten to the point where it doesn't need a physical form anymore.
02:13:50.000Like, whatever consciousness is, they've figured out a way to contain it in non-biological systems.
02:13:56.000So they take whatever you are when you're born, but then the thing is, like, how does that thing replicate?
02:14:01.000What are they doing to make sure the power stays on?
02:15:15.000You take a log, you fucking hollow out the sand, you roll around inside of it, just go down the river.
02:15:19.000And then all of a sudden, this idea that pops into your head, and you start doing all the work, now you have a physical thing that literally allowed itself to be born by getting this idea that invades your consciousness and tricks you into making things.
02:15:33.000Doesn't that make you think that everything's already kind of decided?
02:15:37.000Like, you know, you have free will and control, but to some extent everything's kind of already, what's going to happen is going to happen.
02:15:46.000I think you do have free will, but I think you also have determinism.
02:15:51.000I think this is something that people have argued successfully where you really have to take a step back and go, okay, what do I think about who a person is right now?
02:16:01.000Like if I meet a person and I meet this woman and she's all fucked up and she lies a lot and she likes to do drugs and she doesn't know what she's doing with her life and she cries.
02:16:10.000Like, oh, get your shit together, bitch.
02:16:14.000What do you think when you meet a person like that?
02:16:16.000Do you take any consideration, like, oh, this is a person who is the granddaughter of alcoholics, and it all boiled down to genetics and terrible...
02:16:25.000So all of her systems that came online when she was two and five and six...
02:16:30.000They all came online during alcoholic households and people were physically abusive and you're hiding in the corner of your bedroom and it was all chaos and drinking when you're 12. Like when you get to that 35-year-old person and they've gone through this insane pattern without any intervention.
02:16:56.000You are the combination of all the things that have ever happened to you, your genetics, all the weird shit that you inherit from your parents.
02:17:03.000You inherit a lot of ideas, they think, even from your parents.
02:17:06.000Not just learn from them, but actually inherit these ideas.
02:17:10.000And then you do the best with what you got.
02:17:35.000Like, reality itself changes too much.
02:17:39.000And things come up that seem like if there was going to be a simulation, this is how it would go down.
02:17:45.000Like, I remember when I first started reading about simulation theory, it was right around the time where Anthony Weiner got busted for sending pictures of his deck.
02:18:09.000But if we're going to come up with one someday, obviously not you and me, but someone really smart is going to come up with a simulation, it's going to eventually get good enough where you can't tell that you're in a simulation.
02:18:26.000Like, I had a conversation with this guy, Nick Bollstrom, who's a brilliant guy who is a big proponent of this concept.
02:18:35.000And he was explaining it through, like, probability theory.
02:18:40.000I was a little too dumb to understand what you're saying, but basically what you're saying is, if you do, if it's possible that someday someone, essentially, I'm paraphrasing, Someday we'll have a simulation.
02:18:53.000Like, what are the odds that this is a simulation?
02:18:56.000It's more likely that this is a simulation than not.
02:19:11.000Everybody's freaked out because even though it's not here, it's inevitable.
02:19:14.000If you follow the pattern of innovation, if you go from pioneers, to people who live in cities, to cell phones and internet and fucking Space Force, and you just keep going, eventually you get to a point where someone figures out how to make an artificial version of life.
02:19:31.000Whether it's Ray Kurzweil's thing, where it downloads you into a computer, Or whether it's a thing you sit and connect to.
02:20:59.000But then you think of all the things that we counted before, like poverty, abuse, drug addict parents, all the different things that make a person who they are, right?
02:21:12.000Factors in if you had a game like if you were playing some sort of a large-scale role-playing game You're like what is my character gonna be like?
02:21:31.000And it is essentially what it will be.
02:21:34.000If we stay in this human form, essentially someone's going to figure out a way to put a helmet on you or put a fucking spike in the back of your head that locks your central nervous system into this gigantic computer that starts sending signals to your brain and tricks your brain to think it's riding on a horse through the fucking...
02:22:12.000Well, that could be what we're trying to recreate.
02:22:15.000What we're trying to get to could be like a state that's similar to what exists already in nature.
02:22:20.000Maybe they're interconnected in some sort of a way.
02:22:23.000Maybe someone who is anti-drug will figure out a way to recreate psychedelic experiences using only technology that...
02:22:30.000Interfaces with your brain and turns all those chemicals on.
02:22:33.000But don't you think we're capable of doing that ourselves because we're part of nature in a way like we're all connected to the universe in some way and so if we just focused on like not to sound like Russell Brand but like if we all just like took time to like meditate and like get in contact with ourselves and like realize that we're all connected in a strange web that we could potentially have that like That would definitely help.
02:22:56.000And this is the other thing about people that are angry all the time or people that are lashing out at people all the time.
02:23:01.000That energy that you put out is not a one-way thing.
02:23:11.000Well, and it poisons the other people.
02:23:13.000If I go and attack you and I'm like, Joe, you fucking, whatever, you suck, blah, blah, blah, and I'm attacking you, then there's going to be, I mean, I know you're tough and whatever, but there's still a part of that energy, the negative energy that's going to go into you and go,
02:23:28.000maybe for a second, I don't know how long, but depending on how weak or strong-willed or minded you are, you're going to attach part of that to yourself and be like, maybe I am bad, and I'll just lean into that.
02:23:41.000If you call them an asshole, they just become more of an asshole.
02:23:43.000I think that might be the case with Trump.
02:23:45.000I think if you look at who he was before he became president and how antagonistic he is now that he is president, there was some of that before, like when you get mad at Rosie O'Donnell or someone and insult people.
02:26:51.000And it's like, I feel like prison systems should be able to have a rehabilitation process so that way someone like him who might not be a guy, even if he did it, he's not going to do it again.
02:28:23.000Because I definitely know that people are in jail for shit they didn't do.
02:28:26.000Until you have a completely just, non-biased justice system that isn't pressured by different attorneys or different prosecuting attorneys or governors or anybody.
02:28:42.000You just have this magical fucking super intelligent group of humans that know exactly the right choice in how to punish someone.
02:29:19.000But the thing is, like with this guy, there wasn't enough, I personally think there wasn't enough evidence to say 100% without a doubt he was guilty, he should be in jail for life.
02:29:29.000And then it's like, okay, so what if they prove that he is innocent, but he's been in jail since he was 17 years old.
02:29:34.000He's been in prison since he was 17. How old's he now?
02:29:37.000I think this case was in like 2000, early 2000s, maybe 2003. And so now he's only known his life as someone who's been in the prison system.
02:30:33.000Just put the helmet on, we'll all read each other's minds, and no one ever goes to jail unjustly.
02:30:38.000If your own privacy is more important than all these people that are doing life in prison for shit they didn't do, what, because you want to let people read your mind and find out that you masturbate to fucking feet?
02:31:15.000We're gonna just read each other's minds.
02:31:16.000I think the separation between each other's thoughts like that we enjoy now where you can deceive each other and we can, you know, you can spin a yarn or be a good salesperson.