In this episode, I sit down with Joe Rogan to talk about a variety of topics. We talk about the dangers of vaccines, and how to deal with them, and why they're probably not as bad as you think they are. Joe also talks about his own personal experiences with vaccines and why he thinks they're a good idea. And, of course, there's a whole lot more. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it makes you think about how important it is to have a safe and effective childhood vaccination program. If you're a parent with a kid with a child with a disability, or a parent who needs one, this episode is for you. If you don't have one, or you're not sure if you should get one or not, this is a great episode for you! Thank you so much for being a part of this amazing community, and thank you to everyone who has been with us throughout the last 11 years. If not for you, I would not be here in either of those places. I appreciate you, and I love you very much. -Joe Rogan and I am so grateful for you and your support. XOXO, Joe and I appreciate it very much! -P.S. Thank you for coming to Texas. We really appreciate it, and we really do appreciate it. We love you, thank you for being here. xoxo -Joe and I hope that you enjoy the show, and have a great rest of the rest of your week! - Thank you, Joe - P.M. - Joe and Adam - - Adam (and I hope it's a little bit better than you know that it's going to be a little better in the next week. - Joe - I'll be back next week! xoxO - Tom and we'll see you next week - XOXOXO - xo - XO XO, P.O. and I'll talk to you soon. - Tom and Adam (and we'll talk more soon! - EJ xOXO. - Tim :D - Joe and Joe :P. ( ) - Matt . - B. ( ) - Joe Rogans - JOE AND KAREN & KEVIN CHEERIE AND KELLY - KAVANA
00:01:17.000The other thing that's very interesting is I told you when we were doing the show that time, we were kind of getting a little baked.
00:01:23.000I'm like, this is when my Tourette shows up.
00:01:25.000You know, I have a mild form of Tourette's.
00:01:26.000And so because I had said that, it was like I felt really comfortable just being who I am and not having to worry about, I don't want to tick right now.
00:03:50.000That's why in New York City, the sanitation department still wears kind of uniforms because they were seen as like first line, first responders when people were living in, you know, horse shit and trash.
00:04:00.000People just dumping it out their windows in New York.
00:04:02.000These guys came in like the National Guard and they became this force.
00:04:57.000Because he's challenging the conventional wisdom of vaccines.
00:05:02.000And we have a lot of media influence to...
00:05:05.000You know, to kind of set us up on this path where, I mean, when I was growing up, we didn't have vaccine for the mumps or the measles.
00:05:12.000And I don't think it was the German measles.
00:05:15.000And we got it and chicken pox and you got that.
00:05:18.000And so the vaccine industry was able to prevent that and some form of herd immunity.
00:05:23.000But, you know, the way we had these outbreaks and people are all freaking out and, you know, It just seems like it's an industry that wants to keep this type of safety for people, and that's one view of what is good.
00:05:38.000I mean, there's all kinds of views what people think about certain illnesses you should just get to build up your immunity.
00:10:05.000Because I realized as the podfather who, you know, really helped create everything in this whole, the mechanisms of it all, how it all fits together, we're losing something out of podcasting.
00:10:20.000What that does is actually creates this huge opportunity in a vacuum because there's...
00:10:27.000If you don't mind me saying, there's other Joe Rogans waiting to be born.
00:10:34.000So they are ready and they need to have the same type of support...
00:10:40.000That you get inside Spotify and you'll see iHeartRadio and Stitcher, they're going to announce deals and it's all going to be kind of, they have all their exclusive and you have Podcast One and so that's where radio is moving, mainly by the music companies who Have a kind of bad business model.
00:10:59.000They have to pay for every time someone listens to a song, regardless of whether they could make money on it or not.
00:11:04.000So moving to longer form content that doesn't cost more per minute that people consume is dynamite for them.
00:11:12.000And they already have people paying and there's ways to do that, which is great.
00:11:16.000What I need to make sure we do is that we preserve podcasting as a platform for free speech.
00:11:21.000It may not be easy for the next Joe Rogan who has the different values or how they speak to get into whatever is the norm inside different podcast apps.
00:12:03.000If you enjoy Fresh Air, if you enjoy Radiolab, if you enjoy No Agenda, if you enjoy any podcast, wouldn't you want to encourage some new interesting person to try to get involved and maybe take it to a different place?
00:12:18.000That's what happened with my friend Duncan.
00:12:20.000Duncan Trussell, from doing other people's podcasts to then doing his own.
00:18:23.000I think that it's concerning all this vaccine, you know, the mandatory mask, the disputes over, but I think it's really a sideshow to something much fucking bigger.
00:21:04.000That stopped, you know, it's being held up, and we hear this, it's about FBI building being built, it's about giving states money, it's about all these different things.
00:21:15.000And then we also have this post office controversy.
00:22:05.000And then the bankers, J.P. Morgan and the actual guys, you know, the old, you know, we have Chase Bank now and that guy who started that bank and...
00:22:17.000We've got to be able to control the interest rate so we can, you know, control the economy by boom and bust, basically, which we've been through all this time.
00:22:25.000But when they created it, they had to make that the official way to manage America's money.
00:22:31.000And a couple years down the line, they got the Federal Reserve Act, which removed our money from the Treasury and gave it to the Federal Reserve.
00:23:01.000Poor people and hard-working folks to have any of that.
00:23:05.000The Banking for All Act is what is on the table right now.
00:23:09.000That's why I believe the stimulus is held up.
00:23:12.000Because they want to give people the money into a digital wallet.
00:23:18.000Which everyone who has a social security number right now has a digital dollar wallet attached to that social security number.
00:23:26.000And all you have to do is, if you don't have a bank, you go to the post office, you show your social security number, your ID, and you'll get a debit card, and that is basically your entire bank on that card.
00:23:38.000And the government can put money on, which they will do.
00:27:42.000You have a fucking high-quality audience, man.
00:27:44.000They started listening to No Agenda as well, but let me tell you.
00:27:47.000And a lot of people who are Christian, you know, and they definitely see this as end times and, you know, it's like, is Jared Kushner maybe the Antichrist?
00:28:51.000And if I was a conspiracy theorist, and I've been in the past, I would say if somebody really wanted to destroy America and then control it like a dictatorship, how would they go about doing it?
00:30:19.000It seems like fiction in such a stark way that if you had an amazing Jack Carr book about some foreign threat that invaded America and brought a virus that brought the economy to its knees and then gobbled up all the stocks and then kept people in their houses and made people scared and then You mean pretty much every disaster movie we've seen for the past 20 years that we've loved to stream in totality
00:30:52.000I remember being on mushrooms once, sitting on a hillside, thinking about the fact that every single civilization besides ours current has collapsed.
00:31:01.000If you go to ancient Greece and you look around those spectacular structures, those people aren't there anymore, man.
00:31:09.000Well, I think we'll be okay, but some awareness needs to happen.
00:31:14.000And just back to taking it from a media angle, which I think you and I share, The virus where it came from all disputable whatever the reaction to it if the tests are okay if the vaccine is a different that all that doesn't matter to me right now what happened was some the first I remember this because the first unprecedented thing that we heard was China was shutting down a city right of 11 million people right and that was like holy shit that's never happened before I paid attention like god man that's some bad shit
00:31:44.000so we didn't know what was going on we were all All terrified.
00:31:47.000But what we also saw on Instagram and TikTok and everywhere else was these videos of people dropping dead on the street.
00:32:13.000Something in motion, some programming that was triggered by authorities such as the World Health Organization, Fauci, Birx, who I remember from AIDS. They're not clean on all of that.
00:32:24.000There's a lot of people pissed off about how they handled the AIDS crisis.
00:32:27.000What's wrong with how they handled the AIDS crisis?
00:33:33.000Who's not listening and what are you saying that they're not listening to?
00:33:35.000What I'm saying is that just look at the evidence in front of you.
00:33:38.000I think that this is a globalist type of movement.
00:33:40.000I think a lot of it has been driven by China.
00:33:43.000They have their hooks in a lot of us, in a lot of different areas, in politics, in education, in finance, in fucking every media, Hollywood, sports, they're in everything.
00:33:56.000And I think that if this was a plan, I think that it was intended for some other date.
00:34:02.000Not all the players and the pieces were in place.
00:34:04.000Remember a conspiracy therapist analyzing it.
00:34:56.000Especially when these people, some of them, Whether you agree or disagree with that all infidelity is caused by demons, wasn't that one of the things that lady said?
00:35:32.000And shouldn't you have a video that responds to that that explains, hey, this is actually what's going on.
00:35:39.000The reason why she thinks that is because she doesn't understand blah blah blah or here's what she's saying that's valid because of this, that, and the other.
00:35:48.000the problem is you're either with us or against us and it's been the problem with human beings since the beginning of time we are team players we love a team we love being american you know how many people got happy my old studio because i had american flag like i love the new look Woo!
00:36:14.000We get on teams, whether it's Team Progressive or Team Conservative or Team Rational or Centrist or, you know, you don't think the Libertarians are taking it far enough.
00:36:23.000All that stuff is a problem with labels.
00:38:44.000I also gave him my copy of the index that we had built at the time, which kind of made Apple the de facto on-ramp to submitting your podcast because all other apps and everything has been connected and getting their information and their searches from Apple's database.
00:39:01.000So when Alex Jones was taken off of Apple Podcast, plop, plop, plop like dominoes, all these other apps no longer had the ability to carry that feed because creating your own index is a big fucking pain in the ass and the average independent software developer would rather work on the experience and make categories and feature who he wants to because Apple would feature NPR,
00:39:26.000PBS. So there's all these experiences that can be built and these app developers can compete with If you don't mind, Spotify, iHeart.
00:39:36.000I'm just telling you, honest, we need to have an outside place.
00:39:40.000I'm putting up my own money and people donate or not.
00:40:05.000But what we were talking about with YouTube, managing its scale is almost impossible.
00:40:09.000And I think people tend to lean towards control and minimizing damage, right?
00:40:16.000So if you're dealing with 31 million different YouTube channels, and then you have how many different videos each one of them puts out, If you're thrust into this situation, what do you think the amount of videos every day that go through YouTube's net is?
00:41:23.000But I think that their situation, if I could just for a second, I think it's unmanageable.
00:41:28.000And I think when they look at their ethics and what they want to do with community and their standards in terms of society, They think it's almost unmanageable if you allow people to harass people or say terrible words or attack people or say crazy shit about 9-11 or promote some weird things about the earth being flat and the moon being fake.
00:41:49.000There's something about them that they just want to stop it!
00:42:00.000No, but why do you think they want to stop it?
00:42:02.000I think they want to stop it because it doesn't align with what they've accepted as important enough to talk about.
00:42:10.000But the problem with telling people what's important enough to talk about is if someone has a crazy idea like, hey man, the earth is hollow and aliens live inside of it.
00:42:20.000Someone has to be able to come along and say, hey, this is how we know the Earth's not hollow, and this is how we measure the density of the Earth.
00:42:56.000And when someone is making a video, they're the one who has all the information about the fact that the world is hollow and that there's aliens that live inside of it.
00:43:21.000The Wayfair, children being shipped in cabinets, the adrenochrome, the celebrities eating children and babies and horrible things.
00:43:29.000All of that, what that does is it Is getting people to, and this is why I think they want it to be stopped, or people want it to be stopped, because at least people are looking at other things and consuming things and making decisions and saying, okay,
00:43:44.000maybe I should question this, question that.
00:43:47.000This does have a way of getting people to be more aware and question more things, and that, in its basis, I think is really good.
00:43:54.000We've got training wheels on probably right now.
00:45:06.000Well, so that's part, so my not having a smartphone with me is not because of, I mean, we're being tracked, there's all kinds of ways to track.
00:46:33.000This is why Silicon Valley is competing with the Federal Reserve to be your bank.
00:46:38.000Everybody wants to be your bank, baby.
00:46:40.000Everybody wants it, because that's when they control you.
00:46:42.000But that's also when you get loans at negative interest rate, so they actually pay you to take the loan, to which you can pay off your student loan.
00:47:50.000And if we do get committed to one, is there the possibility of some sort of manipulation, the same way we've seen with All the other currencies, when people get involved.
00:47:59.000Ten years of data have shown that Bitcoin really is the only one that you can trust.
00:49:20.000You know, a friend of mine who's a computer wizard was doing this thing where he was tracing these certain pages that were organizing, like, Antifa rallies.
00:49:52.000You know, people are protesting, and it's really being organized around one telegram channel called Nextra, and these guys worked for U.S. State Department.
00:50:02.000You know, they got pictures and selfies of themselves in the State Department.
00:50:05.000You know, they're obviously some kind of propaganda outfit, but they have, you know, two million followers, and those people are like, okay, we go protest over here, a lot like Black Lives Matter.
00:50:15.000You know, this stuff is being coordinated.
00:50:17.000Again, with this, it's so important to talk about nuance and not being connected to any ideas.
00:50:52.000Yeah, it's very interesting because that company that she worked for actually apparently worked for the special election in Georgia, I think it was, and actually applied some of those tactics.
00:51:37.000I know a bunch of people said that they were involved in some things that mirrored some of the things she was talking about, but I'm like...
00:51:42.000Maybe they were, but I don't think that's for her.
00:51:45.000She's not the company she works for, she's an individual.
00:51:51.000But as an individual talking to her about all these different memes and all these different companies that were, these people that were involved in Russia from the IRA, the Internet Research Agency, they're actively manipulating outrage.
00:54:13.000I'm reluctantly coming to the acceptance that this stupid fucking show that I created a long time ago with Brian Redman and young Jamie Vernon has some sort of social responsibility.
00:54:28.000I mean, it's the amount of people that listen.
00:56:50.000That's a long fucking walk and his dad worked hard and gave him a life and then he became, in my opinion, when he was at his best, the greatest heavyweight I've ever seen.
00:57:42.000Instead of saying African American, black American, black, negro, whatever we've had in the past, I prefer ADOS, which is a lot of people understand this now, which is American descendant of slavery.
00:57:56.000That makes very clear who you're talking about.
00:57:59.000So you can say black, but Kamala Harris, not black.
00:58:15.000If we want to fix our country, this is what we have to do.
00:58:17.000Malcolm X said before he became, you know, Nation of Islam, crazy, a little off the radar for me.
00:58:23.000He said, the only way to fix the racial problem in the United States of America is to have a white man and a black man sit down at the table and work the fucking shit out.
01:00:31.000And I can tell you, systemic racism absolutely existed in America.
01:00:35.000And it went all the way up into the 70s with no man-about-the-house rule.
01:00:40.000When they came up from the South and went into the projects created by, I guess, FDR. And, you know, because they typically ate their own food, now they're coming here to work.
01:00:51.000So the projects were created on welfare, but you could not have a man in the house.
01:00:55.000And this went into the 70s, the patrols, making sure that there was no family with children and a father.
01:01:01.000Now we have 75% of all children in America without a father in the household.
01:01:08.000You and I, we've got parent privilege.
01:01:10.000We're not white privilege, parent privilege.
01:02:59.000Is it possible that we're in this weird state with people because we've decided that we're losing power in other aspects of our life, so we're getting more and more determined to take it back in other places?
01:03:17.000Because of the fact that so many people have been denied the ability to make a living, I mean, it's kind of crazy.
01:03:22.000I mean, I don't know what to think about it, but it seems to me that if I'm allowed to go to certain essential businesses with a mask on and no one's dying, I mean, if I'm going to a supermarket and everyone's wearing a mask, everybody seems okay, right?
01:03:36.000And scientists seem to think they're okay.
01:03:38.000At what point in time do we allow that for everywhere?
01:03:42.000And at what point in time do we allow people to take chances?
01:04:24.000So if you are leaning towards defunding the police and making sure that all the socialism ideas get accepted into major universities and it gets taught in the curriculum and grade school, if you drone on enough and the person who's running for mayor knows the only way that they can win is to embrace your ideas,
01:05:40.000I don't care whether it's true or not or what's true or not, the cavalier nature of this shutdown and fear and colors and stages and numbers and charts and connecting it to the stock markets.
01:05:52.000I don't like that about President Trump at all.
01:05:55.000But see, he looks at what he calls the economy.
01:05:58.000I don't know if he's behind this digital dollar or not, but I think we're all going to be taken care of.
01:06:02.000The $10 million are going to be on a universal basic income, and that's going to happen.
01:10:23.000Yeah, but in this environment, shouldn't we take into account, like if you were going to ban someone, if you were going to say, listen, there's a rational expectation that a person should be able to say your beliefs are not in the line with theirs, they're going to kick you off this business that they own.
01:11:36.000I believe on the commercial platforms that we're talking about in this case, the problem is the business model, advertisers don't like controversy.
01:11:45.000Advertising has gone down drastically since the word coronavirus or COVID-19 was blocked because they didn't want controversy.
01:11:52.000So that's the reason why these networks do it.
01:11:55.000Yes, there's people who ban conservatives specifically, but that's because of the elite messaging system, the mainstream media, also the pharmaceutical industry, a lot of finance, is this message.
01:13:10.000And if you get lost in the woods of race or whether or not people should be able to do drugs or whether or not people should get paid a minimum wage that's a livable wage, you get lost in the woods of any ideology and it becomes a problem.
01:13:27.000For whatever reason, when someone shifts one way or another and we conflict with those ideas, we never give anybody any room for just being a person.
01:13:38.000Most of the time, I've been around that guy.
01:14:45.000I know that that preacher's full of shit.
01:14:47.000But I need to protect you, Adam Curry, because you might just give up your money for this one person because he needs a new jet.
01:14:54.000Okay, so this started about six years ago when hate speech came into the conversation and bullying.
01:15:04.000And bullying became bullying laws, which I remember because we were doing the show and we're like, this is an actual First Amendment violation to create a law that says you can't say something mean about somebody else.
01:15:20.000Now, it may not be nice, it may not be appropriate in the setting, it may not be according to the school rules, but actual laws were created.
01:15:27.000So now we have hate speech and hate crimes, which is really undefinable, but it's all, sadly, all...
01:16:53.000We need to be embraced by our community.
01:16:55.000We dig our heels in, and we fight against anyone that we think opposes our safety, our security, and our comfort, and our ability to feel loved and to be happy.
01:17:08.000Here's where you, in particular, can change the world.
01:17:35.000Before all this BLM stuff came in, it was male, toxic masculinity...
01:17:41.000And a lot of it, of course, Me Too, and a lot of it Absolutely Right, and there's a lot of that bullshit, but...
01:17:49.000We let them cut our gonads off, and we need to stand up a little bit.
01:17:54.000Not that women can't do what we need to do right now, which is take control of the fucking situation in more ways than one, but we need to help shepherd them.
01:18:05.000I know a lot of badass women, so do you, who could fuck anything and anybody up, and they're great and they could be great leaders, but we need to shepherd the whole civilization of men and women, in particular men and men with their families, Particularly in ADOS. That's where we need to see this happen.
01:18:22.000And that's why Trump is going to probably sweep the election with a male black vote who are sick of this shit.
01:18:31.000And they see it and their gonads dropped.
01:20:13.000I've been that person who was disenfranchised and lonely and disconnected and didn't have real close friends and didn't have a real community where I could say, I'm protected.
01:20:37.000But my perspective is we have to look at the world that we exist in currently as a series of pipelines to your consciousness.
01:20:48.000And you have to limit the amount of entries because there's only a certain amount of bandwidth That you have to managing life.
01:20:57.000If you have a thing you love, whether that thing is you are a songwriter and a singer, and you have these thoughts, these emotions that you wish you could figure out a way where other people could see the beauty in your perspective and to put it through a song that rhymes with the perfect notes on a guitar and just get into someone's consciousness and make them feel better.
01:22:55.000But I think a severe perturbance of your development emotionally, psychologically, as a child contributes greatly to you being a homeless person.
01:26:05.000It's our mentality, our mentality, which went away from true community helping each other.
01:26:12.000Often that was situated around a church.
01:26:14.000That's why we have nuns still, kind of with the hospital services, all kinds of services, barter services with the butcher if you only had wheat, etc.
01:26:23.000And we've moved towards this man in the middle.
01:26:25.000Hey, my fucking neighbor's an asshole.
01:26:27.000We don't go over anymore and talk to the neighbor and say, bro, can we talk?
01:27:29.000I'm sure in all deals you've done, there's a manager and lawyers and accountants, and the motherfucker goes down the line, and if you know, you know, if I could just sit with the guy for two minutes, like, bro...
01:28:27.000Because in my personal life, and I believe in the microcosm, and I believe in the macrocosm, and I believe there's a situation where a thing that you feel...
01:28:38.000If you can express it the right way, it resonates with people and it can help everybody.
01:29:45.000You're global, which makes it so great.
01:29:47.000This is happening in every country around the world.
01:29:51.000Black Lives Matter, racial strife, racial division, very different story than us.
01:29:55.000It's in the UK, it's in the Netherlands.
01:29:57.000Everybody has some story, but it's all different.
01:30:00.000They should not have the same guilt, maybe, that we should have, but it's being used as a wedge to divide people.
01:30:07.000And I think that we have enough platforms and enough reach to let people know that figure it out, go look around, but you're definitely being manipulated and the whole idea is not to have that happen, what you just said.
01:32:34.000That's where it's always going to be at, my friend.
01:32:36.000It's always going to be the dangerous outside.
01:32:39.000That's where I like to live and thrive.
01:32:41.000Well, there's always going to be the tip of progress, and everything else underneath it is going to be...
01:32:46.000But the question is, who's right when you see these people in Portland that are fucking burning trash in the lobby of the mayor's apartment complex?
01:32:54.000Are they right when they're holding up a fucking big sheet that says, resign?
01:33:19.000I think there's like 1,200 units or something.
01:33:22.000The good news is this shit is starting to end because Joe Biden campaign realized that this was not good for their numbers, and so now they're out saying, nah, you should stop rioting, stop rioting.
01:36:51.000All of it, I think it's more than anything.
01:36:55.000There are people that take advantage of moments of things that happen.
01:37:00.000But there's also, like, people just panic and make good moves and bad moves.
01:37:04.000And they don't necessarily have to make sense in retrospect.
01:37:09.000It wasn't the right call in terms of, like, what we thought, like...
01:37:15.000COVID-19 was going to be for this country, but they thought it was going to be way worse.
01:37:19.000And if they were wrong and it was way worse, it would have been horrific.
01:37:24.000So what is the mechanism where the people in every country can communicate this back in a manner to the people who we've chosen to represent us?
01:38:12.000That's also what the Second Amendment is about, is to, in my mind, to protect the First Amendment, but also like, hey, all the people here don't want this, and we're kind of willing to back it up, so here we are with our stuff.
01:38:25.000Yeah, it's such a strange perspective.
01:39:06.000Well, anytime you have an open group that anyone can join, you're going to get people that do the dumbest shit to get to the front of the line and the top of the heap.
01:40:20.000We've gotten hooked into these systems, whether it's right or left or whatever it is, where your vested interest is in agreeing with whatever the people on your side think and say.
01:43:34.000I have to only assume that's what caused it, but the actual injury didn't come for like 10 months after that.
01:43:41.000It was a fracture, an actual broken ass?
01:43:43.000I didn't get an x-ray, but there was a bone that was not where it was supposed to be that caused a litany of problems up and down the side of my body.
01:43:51.000A bone that wasn't where it was supposed to be?
01:43:53.000Yeah, some little bone in the part of your hip.
01:45:11.000Created by a dude who was a magnetic healer, and he was killed by his son, ran him over with a car, took over the business, and started promoting the idea that adjusting people's backs to fix fucking leukemia and shit.
01:48:39.000And I'm not saying one way or the other, but all I know, I'm seeing President Trump doing some very interesting shit.
01:48:48.000And he's standing in the middle of things I've thought have been a problem for a long time.
01:48:53.000The media for sure, he calls it fake news.
01:48:55.000The pharmaceutical industry, a lot of bullshit.
01:48:58.000He's sitting right there going, this is bullshit.
01:49:00.000And while he's still making a lot of interesting things happen that I don't think is good, he's also removed the pharmacy benefit managers so actually the prices will actually come down.
01:49:11.000He's deregulated insurance so you can do it across state lines.
01:49:15.000These are all things that I think are very, very good.
01:49:17.000He's standing in the middle of the military industrial complex saying it's the fucking military industrial complex.
01:51:37.000If you're a young black man, you see, all you see is videos of cops shooting black guys and not shooting white guys.
01:51:44.000If someone just shows you three or four of those in a row, and you have a job and a family, and you don't have time to be resurged and shit, How do you know if that's representative of the whole world or not?
01:51:53.000Even if it isn't representative, isn't it offensive as a singular event in the history of people where someone gets shot just because of what they look like, right?
01:52:11.000More than anything, is how it divides us and how we look at each other.
01:52:14.000We're supposed to look at each other as the same.
01:52:17.000We're supposed to look at each other as just people.
01:52:19.000And anything that takes us off that line, whether it's male, female, gay, straight, black, white, privileged, non-privileged, we've got to let that go.
01:52:29.000Everybody has to stop themselves and think about how you're thinking.
01:52:45.000And we all have abuse, we have situations, we have pain, and this is being triggered every single day by very simple things that we can easily be triggered about because it's accepted.
01:55:16.000Oh no, I see us as humanity being able to build a web collectively, and in that we catch all the fuckers that we're done with, who've kept us apart.
01:55:26.000Spiders don't give a fuck who they catch!
01:59:29.000When I see someone like, whether it's Jack Dorsey or even Zuckerberg, anybody's put into a position that no human being has been responsible for.
02:02:34.000Could you imagine if hell is reaching some connection between virtual reality and artificial intelligence where they trick you into living in a world with no pain?
02:03:27.000This is why many, many very successful people, whether they're business or academics, certainly royalty, they all develop a super specialty.
02:03:37.000Some study algebra, others will study economics, and they become very successful because they need that challenge.
02:03:44.000As all human beings, we need a real challenge in our life to be our full self.
02:06:38.000Then you get the agitators and the agitators start to break shit.
02:06:42.000Then you get the guys with the umbrellas and they start to break windows showing you where the third wave, which is truly the poor, poor, poorest of society, they come in to go grab stuff.
02:06:55.000Because they've seen everybody is grabbing something for themselves.
02:07:00.000They've seen it all, the politicians, they're not stupid, they've seen the politicians, they've seen Hollywood, they've seen everybody steal, steal, steal.
02:07:08.000The agitators, the people with the hammers and the umbrellas, they say, there you go, these people go in, they get what they feel is theirs, that's part of their American dream at this point.
02:07:18.000So we have to recognize what's happening and then take it away from just black or white racial issues.
02:07:24.000This is people fucking with us, fucking with us because of our history, and it's triggering a lot of deep emotional shit.
02:08:18.000It's like if the world was a simulation, this would be a fantastic moment where you had to decide how preposterous are you going to let it get?
02:09:41.000If a bad thing happens, generally, it's because I did something stupid.
02:09:47.000Like, I thought wrong, or I said the wrong thing, or I moved in the wrong direction, then I had to recognize why I moved in the wrong direction.
02:10:14.000You feel like you're just going to get on stage and take over Adam Curry, but the joke does not come out exactly how you wanted it to because it's fresh.
02:10:25.000A stand-up joke is sort of like a thing that You have an intention, and then there's a result.
02:10:33.000And people, oftentimes, they misconstrue the result with your intention.
02:10:38.000Like, if you bomb, they're like, this motherfucker wanted to hurt my feelings.
02:10:42.000He wanted to make me feel bad with terrible comedy.
02:10:45.000The exact opposite of what the intention is.
02:15:36.000Yeah, it's a trip, though, because I go there like, no, all right, let me say hi to the snakes, because it's like his family.
02:15:42.000I was watching a video today of a guy who was fishing in Australia.
02:15:45.000I don't know if it's a guy or a girl, but they caught a big fish.
02:15:49.000And it is like the dangers of fishing in Australia.
02:15:52.000And as this guy is reeling this fish in, a crocodile comes swimming out of the water and steals his fish, and they're running away from this crocodile.
02:18:09.000It's in the National Security Council.
02:18:12.000It's a real responsibility, but they transferred that into a biological weapons program to be on the lookout for that, which has the same characteristics as what happened.
02:18:23.000Either way, it doesn't seem like it worked very well, other than the president shutting down some travel or most travel from China and Europe and the UK against everyone else's wishes.
02:18:36.000That part, I think he did well, but...
02:18:39.000I don't know how well this biological warfare outfit worked because, if anything, the tests were either sabotaged or sucked or the CDC is inefficient, ineffective.
02:18:51.000I don't know, but we got that too late.
02:18:54.000And what we got, the PCR tests that spin up the DNA samples 37 to 40 times instead of 30, is producing results that are Could be a lot of 35% false positives.
02:19:06.000So when you don't have any data to work with, you're fucked.
02:19:15.000This is in the New York Times just last week.
02:19:18.000And so, you know, just to make sure that even though the New York Times is full of shit, I think when they publish something good, it should be noted.
02:19:24.000But isn't also one of those things where they don't know how effective it's going to be?
02:20:17.000But what then happened, I'm not so sure that that's honest because there's a lot of incentive in the pharmaceutical and medical system to skew things a certain way to make sure you get paid.
02:20:29.000And you can't deny that's taken place historically.
02:20:35.000The main way to make sure we had a lot of positives is instead of 30 times amplification of the fragments of the virus that you're looking for, they did it 37 to 40 times, and that gives you a lot more.
02:21:19.000So in order to test positive, if you're going to get symptoms, You have to have a certain amount of viral load.
02:21:26.000So you have to have more than just a little bit.
02:21:28.000If you had it, just talking here, I might not get it, but if we're making out slowly and swapping spit and having a good time with each other, I might get enough viral load.
02:22:33.000And in Austin, you know, this is what I don't like.
02:22:36.000We were told, again, masks, social distance, close the bars, etc.
02:22:41.000Once we're into the next phase, which is instead of 40 hospitalizations per day, an average of 22, then we go to the next phase, and then we're allowed to open up some more.
02:23:54.000Because I feel like when you're doing that, if you have a platform...
02:23:59.000Whether it's like Facebook or YouTube or Twitter or anything, if you have a platform and in that platform some people believe X, Y, others believe Y, if you just decide to shut down everyone that believes Y, you create a tyranny.
02:28:26.000I mean, don't you think a lot of what we're talking about here, whether it's a conspiracy or just the way things happen when systems conflict with each other and one gains control and the opposing forces move in and take more control.
02:29:30.000But the fact is that if we still are willing to believe that we need this tradition of this old lady with funny hats living in some prime fucking ass real estate in the middle of London, we got a lot of thinking to do.
02:33:43.000My goal as a person, and this is something I've been thinking about a lot lately, because...
02:33:48.000I had a hard time coming to grips with this idea that people are listening to what I think.
02:33:53.000I'm not an expert in anything, but I've come to the conclusion through all the trials and errors and pros and cons of my life that if we just go into things with the intention of working things out,
02:34:09.000not of fighting, not of conflict, it's possible That all the excess energy that we have that's dedicated to these unnecessary conflicts, that maybe we can come to a comfortable agreement for both parties.
02:34:25.000We're fucking that up because of this ancient DNA that we have that leads us to always want to go to war with opposing tribes.
02:35:14.000In the late 80, 81, I was quite young, but I wound up in Los Angeles and I was trying to have some meetings, trying to figure out if I could be somewhere in Hollywood or something.
02:35:45.000I don't listen to those because those are negative.
02:35:47.000Well, but back in this time, so I wound up...
02:35:52.000In probably Compton area, and it was a...
02:35:55.000I don't know what radio station it was, but it was probably one of KLX or the equivalent of New York, BLS. And there were these guys doing rap battles.
02:36:05.000And so it kind of transformed from gangs to rapping.
02:36:11.000That's how hip-hop really got started.
02:36:13.000You know, you were battling against them, and you had the breakdance battles and all these different...
02:36:17.000It was pure tribes against each other.
02:36:20.000Maybe today's version, instead of bullshitting each other on some fucking...
02:38:40.000Try and say something nicely, but don't be afraid of using something that is politically not right or could be a problem.
02:38:48.000The term problematic is bullshit by itself.
02:38:51.000Either it's a problem or it's not a problem.
02:38:52.000I think we have this undeniable inclination to form groups.
02:38:57.000And form groups of people that think along our lines and then everybody who opposes those thoughts, we close ourselves off to their perspective and we fight against them.
02:39:06.000It's just a natural thing that people do.
02:39:09.000And it's one of the reasons why we have so many problems with all kinds of different ideas is that people, whether you have this idea, when you've made a decision on a controversial issue in your mind, most of the time, what you're basing your decision is on your own perspective,
02:39:29.000your education, how you, a wealth, let's just give it the best of possible ideas.
02:40:41.000But there's people that live like this, and there's people that live over here, and there's a different climate there, and this place is really cold.
02:40:47.000I get the idea that's not where some forces want us to go.
02:41:14.000Yeah, people who don't read, who say brilliant shit.
02:41:17.000There's people who can't see and they can play guitar.
02:41:22.000But isn't that all basically coming from a place of fear, either not fitting in or not being understood or not understanding and just being afraid of what that means?
02:41:35.000And I think that's fueled by a lot of things around us.
02:41:41.000There's always a lot of fear, and I think that fear encourages people to engage in groupthink, and it discourages them from coming up with a contradictory opinion.
02:41:53.000If there's a narrative that all the really aggressive people, whether it's right-wing or left-wing, if there's a narrative that they're espousing, there's a gravity to that.
02:43:34.000It's again, it's this, if I think I'm right and I think you're wrong and I want to prove that I'm right and you're wrong, it becomes a game of tennis.
02:44:07.000So if someone has a control of a situation, it doesn't necessarily mean that they should.
02:44:19.000William F. Buckley, son, William F. Buckley Jr., who was one of the founders of the conservative America, his son, Christopher, was married to my cousin, Lucy.
02:45:09.000And so at some family gatherings, some of the other cousins of cousins who I don't really know that well, like, well, we can't talk about this because you don't have clearance.
02:45:21.000But that's really, if you look at the No Agenda show, it's been a truth-seeking of my own life because when I was in my teens, my parents...
02:45:37.000They both told me that they had been involved in...
02:45:41.000They were, I guess, called civilians in the State Department.
02:45:46.000And that's why we had lived in Uganda when I was very young.
02:45:49.000And I think that's why I probably moved to Europe.
02:45:53.000And there's a lot of people who are...
02:45:57.000My whole family is definitely patriots.
02:46:49.000And I believe he recruited my parents.
02:46:51.000Both of them are gone, so I can talk about it.
02:46:54.000I can't say exactly what they were doing, but I do know one thing is that, and this is why I think, once I realized this, I have distrust of the media, is that I believe my father was in Uganda to report on certain events that were taking place.
02:47:44.000But that story was actually a message from United States Intelligence or the President or whatever, or the State Department, whatever our democracy idea was, whatever our fucking agenda was.
02:47:57.000And so when they told me, they was really telling me like, you know, we're not in this anymore, we're not doing any of that, you know, we're legit.
02:48:07.000But it opened my eyes to having lived this huge lie, not that I knew it, but, you know, why did my dad come home one day and he was able to speak French fluently?
02:49:44.000With all these systems, if you're looking at it without any connection to who's right and who's wrong, you just look at it like this little battle of bugs battling it out.
02:49:55.000Just look at it in terms of what are the qualities of each side.
02:55:10.000I think it's good for them to emotionally experience conversations with each other unsupervised.
02:55:16.000It's good to learn how to talk to people.
02:55:19.000It's good to go to your parents and tell them, you know, Debbie got mad at me because I said, and you said, well, you know, Debbie probably thought this, and you have these kind of Human interaction.
02:55:28.000I feel like if the kids aren't right in front of each other all the time like that, they're missing some of that.
02:55:38.000I'm hoping that this is just a momentary roadblock and then a few months later from now, we have some sort of viable medication, whatever it is.
02:55:48.000Whatever it is, we realize, okay, we're going to be okay.
02:56:31.000But I think that as a parent, if you know something you're supposed to teach to your kids, if you have an idea of something you're supposed to explain to your kids...
02:56:39.000If you see things that are going in a weird way, so in this way, it's like you feel more of a need to have conversations with them about just life overall and also what they're learning in school.
03:00:08.000I think if technology could eliminate this bizarre aspect of social media where you write things out and a person is not in front of you when this communication is delivered and you know you're hurting their feelings but you don't have to experience their My stepdaughter,
03:02:11.000If we keep growing, eventually it's going to come to a point in time.
03:02:14.000But then there's the other concept that as things westernize, people are less and less likely to have children early in life because they want to develop their career.
03:03:58.000In 2008 or 2009, there was a financial conference, JPMorgan, Chase, Goldman Sachs, whatever, and they were talking about the future of medicine and vaccines.
03:04:08.000And everyone was all jacked up about it because vaccines are not regulated the same as every other medication, so you can't be held liable if someone has a problem with your vaccine.
03:04:21.000Now, there are vaccine courts where the government quietly gives you money and you can get some restitution, but if the vaccine is shit, you can't sue the pharmaceutical company.
03:04:41.000So you had vaccines against smoking, addiction, and things that really I don't think fit the actual description of vaccines.
03:04:47.000And now we're at the magical RNA, the mRNA vaccine, which is supposed to not...
03:04:55.000Don't trick your immune system by giving you a piece of the original virus, but to trick your immune system into changing something in your DNA that will reject the virus when it encounters it.
03:05:07.000So that's a little different, and it's not been proven to work.
03:05:12.000Jesus, you're freaking me out, Adam Curry!
03:06:36.000We gotta look at, like, what do you, do you want someone lighting the building on fire because there's a guy inside that you disagree with who is the most progressive mayor in the fucking country?
03:07:09.000I believe this and you believe that and I want to be rational and you want to be right.
03:07:14.000Remember we were talking about how you need some kind of challenge, survival challenge in your life to be a full human being.
03:07:21.000This I think unfortunately is what happens to probably younger people, I'll say 20 to 30. Their challenge has now become this dangerous game of taunting, burning, doing more than just protesting.
03:07:36.000It can start with protesting, but that becomes a lifeblood that you need to have in order to feel like a full human.
03:07:44.000We have our own challenges to feel like we are full humans.
03:08:34.000It's not as simple as I think one thing, you think a different thing, and you can tell me why you think something, and I can just accept it without a judgment on me as a human being and my intellect.
03:08:44.000And the problem is, if you have something that's opposed or is opposing the ideas I have in my head, I think that you got me.
03:08:52.000You made, you know, you tapped me out.
03:10:28.000And this idea that you have to be, you know, everyone has to be in agreement of every single goddamn issue in the world, otherwise you can't connect with them.
03:11:06.000If someone is on the same tribe as you, you have to agree with them about everything politically.
03:11:13.000I think a lot of my views overlap with what someone would call conservative, but I find that an incredible insult if you call me a Republican or even a Libertarian or a Democrat.
03:11:22.000I don't want to be fucking labeled anything.
03:11:26.000I think the best evidence that this has actually taken place is what's happening right now between the right and the left and how polarized everything is.
03:11:48.000So now both political parties are kind of, you know, the Democratic Party, and they've come in sailing in, okay, yeah, we think this should stop.
03:11:55.000So that, I think it will start to stop.
03:12:00.000Well, it's one of two things that's going to happen.
03:12:03.000It's going to stop or it's going to accelerate, right?
03:12:07.000It's all dependent upon what kind of reaction people have to it.
03:12:11.000So whenever you want to take over a society, the best strategy is strategy from above and below.
03:12:16.000So the below right now, let's just say if someone is thinking about this and running this and trying to fuck with us, Below is your on-the-street riots, Black Lives Matter, inequality, whatever people are pissed off about.
03:12:31.000Above is COVID. That's why it's dangerous for us because we have this overall...
03:13:04.000Honestly, I think what I said earlier about controversial people having platforms, I think it's important that people figure it out for themselves.
03:13:14.000You can't trick me with a faith healer.
03:13:53.000Like, if you're fucking pretending me, you're talking to Jesus, and you give me an anointed bandana that's going to protect you from any financial...
03:14:02.000No, I don't think that should be illegal.
03:15:21.000I'd love to see people who have MS or ALS, Parkinson's, whose brain is not communicating the functions to be able to keep those going because I think that's the initial application and that's fantastic.
03:15:55.000The interface between our brains and the network, the whole community, the world, has actually gone from ten fingers to one or two with our phones.
03:16:05.000I like the idea of upping that bandwidth transfer.
03:16:08.000But I would like to be able to make sure I can turn it off and I have control when I want it.
03:16:14.000Doesn't it sort of go in line with what we were talking about when people have only been talking for a short amount of time?