The Joe Rogan Experience - September 11, 2020


Joe Rogan Experience #1535 - Tim Kennedy


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours

Words per Minute

176.14012

Word Count

31,761

Sentence Count

3,192

Misogynist Sentences

59

Hate Speech Sentences

55


Summary

J.R. explains why Hawaiian shirts are a uniform for white supremacists and why they should be taken away from the public. Plus, why the far-right boogaloo movement is using Hawaiian shirts to hide their intentions. And why they wear them because they're comfortable and breathable. And what's wrong with Hawaiian shirts? And why we should all be wearing them. Also, we talk about the rainbow and why it's not cool to wear a rainbow. And we don't give a fuck about it, but it's a good thing it's still a rainbow, right? Joe Rogan is a standup comedian, standup comic, and podcaster from Los Angeles, California. He's also the host of the podcast and hosts a podcast called . and he's also a podcaster, which means he likes to drink beer and talk about things that don't make him sweat. And he also likes to talk about a lot of other stuff that's not so good. Enjoy this episode, and don't forget to subscribe to the pod and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! or wherever else you re listening to this podcast. It helps us spread the word to other podcasters and podcasters about what we're talking about! and we hope you enjoy the pod! Thank you for listening and share it with your friends and family and tell us what you think about it on your social media! XOXO, Joe and the crew at The Joe Rogans Experience! xoxo, Caitlyn and the rest of the Crew at <3 Cheers, Sarah, Sarah and the Crew - Sarah Sarah, Caitie, Mike, and the entire crew at . . Sarah is a friend of the podCastellos Caitie at The Root & Sarah at the Rooter at , and Sarah at The Rogan Experience Mike at the Michael at the Rogan Podcast And Sarah at Squeepers at The PodXOz and Sarah is here at the PodX Project Josh at the podXO at the podcast, and Sarah in the podcast and Sarah s new book, and she s a friend at the Sactown Podcast at The Sunken House of the Sunkan Podcast, and much more! Sarah at New York Magazine, and how she s wearing a Hawaiian shirt.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 During my day, Joe Rogan Podcast, my name, all day.
00:00:14.000 Well, I, of course, come bearing gifts to two new Texans.
00:00:17.000 So that's, that's a separate thing.
00:00:19.000 But I did, I was at the range working and I was wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
00:00:25.000 It wasn't even a Hawaiian shirt.
00:00:27.000 I bought it in Czech Republic.
00:00:28.000 And, but it looked like Hawaiian shirt.
00:00:30.000 And in the comment section, I was in body armor.
00:00:33.000 I had my gun.
00:00:34.000 I was literally working.
00:00:35.000 Everybody was like, Oh my gosh, you're wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
00:00:38.000 You're part of this super extremist, white supremist group.
00:00:43.000 And I was like...
00:00:43.000 What?
00:00:44.000 I'm wearing a Hawaiian shirt.
00:00:46.000 And they start freaking out, like cancel culture.
00:00:48.000 And I was like, I bought that.
00:00:49.000 It doesn't matter where I bought it.
00:00:50.000 But now, because you're telling me I'm not supposed to wear it, because I guess Hawaiian shirts are a uniform for white supremacists.
00:00:57.000 Oh God, please Google this.
00:00:58.000 This is a new thing.
00:01:00.000 Yeah.
00:01:00.000 What?
00:01:00.000 What?
00:01:00.000 Yep.
00:01:01.000 Hawaiian shirts are white supremacists?
00:01:02.000 Yeah, you can't do it.
00:01:03.000 So, of course, the first thing I did was buy every Hawaiian shirt I can possibly find just because I'm not supposed to.
00:01:10.000 Who the fuck is saying this?
00:01:12.000 I need to see this.
00:01:13.000 That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
00:01:15.000 How can a Hawaiian shirt be white supremacists?
00:01:18.000 I don't think there's any logic ever attached to any of these things.
00:01:21.000 No.
00:01:21.000 But I think the Boogaloo bros...
00:01:25.000 Yeah, so that's what the Wall Street Journal says.
00:01:26.000 Why the extremist Boogaloo boys wear Hawaiian shirts.
00:01:30.000 Please put that up on the screen.
00:01:32.000 I need to see this fucking nonsense.
00:01:34.000 What?
00:01:34.000 Oh my god, this is real.
00:01:36.000 Why the extremist Boogaloo Boys wear Hawaiian...
00:01:38.000 I'm not joking.
00:01:39.000 Oh my god.
00:01:40.000 Aloha shirts have become a disconcerting signature for members of a gun-toting anti-government...
00:01:45.000 What does it say?
00:01:46.000 You made it a little too big.
00:01:47.000 I work for the government.
00:01:49.000 So...
00:01:49.000 Faction.
00:01:50.000 Does that cancel this?
00:01:51.000 Oh my god.
00:01:52.000 In the past couple weeks following the killing of George Floyd, curiously dressed counter-protesters have attended scattered demonstrations across the U.S. armed and disconcertingly garbed in Magnum P.I. style floral Hawaiian shirts.
00:02:06.000 Magnum P.I. is pretty fucking American.
00:02:08.000 Yeah, it's pretty epic.
00:02:09.000 Three things here.
00:02:10.000 They're really comfortable.
00:02:12.000 Floral is a great pattern.
00:02:13.000 And they're very breathable.
00:02:15.000 And on the range, I like to do the top button thing and pop a collar so you don't get hot brass down your neck.
00:02:20.000 Because when we're shooting a ton...
00:02:21.000 So it's like a, eh, don't get burned, don't want to be a redneck, you know?
00:02:24.000 Yeah.
00:02:25.000 Like, I hate white supremacists, but...
00:02:27.000 What's wrong with Hawaiian shirts?
00:02:28.000 I don't know.
00:02:28.000 We can't let them take away Hawaiian shirts.
00:02:30.000 No, that's the exact point that I'm trying to...
00:02:32.000 I was like, you tell me the things that I'm not supposed to do, and I'm going to do those things because I'm not going to let you take those things from me.
00:02:39.000 There they are.
00:02:40.000 Far-right boogaloo movement is using Hawaiian shirts to hide its intentions.
00:02:43.000 Oh, that's a chubby shirt.
00:02:44.000 The dude right there on the far right?
00:02:46.000 I have that shirt.
00:02:48.000 Oh, they're wearing the shirts to hide their intentions.
00:02:51.000 What?
00:02:52.000 No, they wear them because they're comfortable.
00:02:54.000 And they're breathable.
00:02:55.000 And this one's stretchy.
00:02:57.000 They're taking away everything fun.
00:02:58.000 You can't even do okay anymore.
00:03:00.000 Remember?
00:03:00.000 Okay is now a white...
00:03:01.000 I still do that.
00:03:02.000 I do too.
00:03:03.000 It's been around way too long.
00:03:05.000 You can't steal okay.
00:03:05.000 Scuba diving, skydiving, military.
00:03:07.000 Like, I can't...
00:03:09.000 I don't know what the other symbol is for not okay.
00:03:11.000 There's some things that it's like gay people took over the rainbow.
00:03:14.000 Okay, you can have the rainbow.
00:03:15.000 My son really likes a rainbow.
00:03:17.000 I like rainbows too.
00:03:18.000 He's five.
00:03:18.000 I'll still wear a rainbow.
00:03:20.000 I don't give a fuck.
00:03:21.000 For sure.
00:03:21.000 But I do recognize that it's...
00:03:23.000 I mean, at least they have partial ownership of it.
00:03:27.000 Yeah.
00:03:28.000 But the okay sign...
00:03:30.000 You can use the emojis to text people.
00:03:33.000 Yeah.
00:03:34.000 And I cannot help but use the okay sign for any...
00:03:36.000 It's still on the emojis?
00:03:37.000 Yeah, it is.
00:03:38.000 For any positive response.
00:03:40.000 Controversial.
00:03:41.000 It's not.
00:03:42.000 What about thumbs up?
00:03:43.000 When's that gonna be bad?
00:03:44.000 Yeah.
00:03:44.000 Pretty soon.
00:03:46.000 It has to be.
00:03:47.000 It's so fucking stupid.
00:03:48.000 It is in some other country, correct?
00:03:50.000 Thumbs up is?
00:03:50.000 Yeah.
00:03:51.000 When I was young, they always taught us, like, middle finger means something in America, but in, like, some other country it doesn't, but, like, thumbs up in some country is real bad.
00:03:58.000 Sort of like cunt in English?
00:04:00.000 Like, the Italians, like, do the chin thing.
00:04:02.000 Yeah.
00:04:02.000 Fuck you, yeah.
00:04:03.000 There's, like, symbols in different countries mean different things.
00:04:04.000 Oh, okay.
00:04:06.000 I don't know how bad it really means, you know, if they're really gonna get pissed, but I've heard that.
00:04:11.000 I've heard always.
00:04:12.000 Find out where thumbs up is bad.
00:04:14.000 I'm never going there.
00:04:16.000 Give the thumbs up.
00:04:17.000 I want to find out where saying okay is bad.
00:04:20.000 And then, oh dang it, we're already here.
00:04:23.000 Most of those started off with 4chan just fucking around.
00:04:27.000 4chan was just pretending.
00:04:28.000 In Iran, Greece, Russia, Sardinia, and parts of West Africa, the thumbs up is as rude as the middle finger is in the UK. So no posing in front of the Parthenon, making the thumbs up gesture like a nerdy tourist.
00:04:41.000 Oh.
00:04:42.000 Oh God, I'm doing it.
00:04:43.000 If I go there, I'm going to do that for sure.
00:04:46.000 I'm in West Africa a bunch and this is okay.
00:04:52.000 Okay.
00:04:52.000 Yeah.
00:04:52.000 And there's only black people there.
00:04:54.000 Yeah.
00:04:54.000 So nobody's getting mad at my okay symbol.
00:04:57.000 They probably do it too.
00:04:59.000 I've got a picture of Beyonce doing it.
00:05:00.000 I saved a bunch of pictures of black folks doing the OK symbol.
00:05:04.000 I was sending it to my friends.
00:05:07.000 People were saying that there's something wrong with the OK. I'm like, you can't take away something that's been around forever that just means OK. And the thing about there were some people that were doing it upside down.
00:05:20.000 So that's a military thing.
00:05:21.000 Oh, okay.
00:05:22.000 Explain that.
00:05:23.000 It's an asshole.
00:05:24.000 This is an asshole.
00:05:26.000 So the game is, at any moment, you know, we're talking over here, you're like, oh man, I hurt my leg down here.
00:05:33.000 And if you look at it, I gotcha.
00:05:36.000 And I get to flick you in the dick.
00:05:38.000 Really?
00:05:38.000 Yeah.
00:05:38.000 So like, pop!
00:05:40.000 Wait a minute.
00:05:40.000 But you can cancel it if you can get your finger in there.
00:05:43.000 What?
00:05:44.000 Yeah.
00:05:44.000 So it's a game that has existed in every single basic training.
00:05:48.000 You have to remember that the audience that we're talking about here, like these are guys that are volunteering to go to war, so they're not right.
00:05:54.000 But I mean, this, for as long as I've been in the military for 16 years, this is an asshole.
00:05:58.000 And the game has always been like, gotcha.
00:06:00.000 And it's a gotcha moment if they look down at it.
00:06:03.000 So if you do that, that thing, and then someone sees it, they have to stick their finger in it or you hit them in the dick.
00:06:09.000 Yep.
00:06:10.000 Okay.
00:06:10.000 Yeah, that's the game.
00:06:11.000 There are rules to the game.
00:06:13.000 That's what I was trying to tell you two years ago.
00:06:15.000 I still would play this with my friends, but it became this whole thing.
00:06:18.000 I'd never heard of this.
00:06:20.000 It could also be internet 4chan meme shit where they're taking it to another level and giving...
00:06:25.000 But do you remember when those cops, they all got in trouble because they were taking a picture, and everyone's saying these cops are doing the white power thing.
00:06:33.000 But you're saying that's not what that is at all.
00:06:35.000 So West Point, at one of the recent graduations, I think Trump spoke there, a bunch of the West Point graduates were doing that symbol.
00:06:43.000 Because it's a WNAP. Yeah.
00:06:44.000 Well, that's what the article was like.
00:06:47.000 Oh, no, a bunch of white supremacists are graduating from West Point.
00:06:50.000 And so there's a huge military investigation.
00:06:53.000 I mean, Pentagon sending people out to research this.
00:06:56.000 And they're like, oh, shoot.
00:06:58.000 It's them playing an asshole game.
00:07:01.000 This is actually not better because now our West Point, the most prestigious military academy, our graduates are playing their senior year at a Trump graduation, the asshole game.
00:07:13.000 And the asshole game has consequences and those are dick slaps.
00:07:17.000 Yep, that's right.
00:07:18.000 Unless you get your finger in there, and then you're safe.
00:07:20.000 That's so fucking ridiculous!
00:07:23.000 We have to, like, amuse ourselves.
00:07:26.000 Well, the problem is with someone being able to write an article like that and say this is a white power symbol, and then all of a sudden these people get labeled as white supremacists, and then there's no repercussion, because once the article's out there, even if you have a retraction, the original article's still out.
00:07:40.000 And the damage is done.
00:07:41.000 Done.
00:07:42.000 Done.
00:07:42.000 And those guys are labeled as white supremacists when they're really just dorks.
00:07:45.000 Have you ever read a retraction?
00:07:47.000 Not one.
00:07:48.000 No.
00:07:49.000 No.
00:07:49.000 I don't believe I have.
00:07:50.000 No.
00:07:51.000 Maybe someone showed me one a couple times.
00:07:54.000 But when someone gets accused of something like that, that's a pretty heinous thing.
00:07:59.000 Retraction's not going to reach the same amount of people.
00:08:02.000 No.
00:08:02.000 I would be enraged if somebody was like, hey, you're a white supremacist because you did this thing.
00:08:07.000 And I was like, no, I'm not a white supremacist.
00:08:09.000 And...
00:08:10.000 That thing is an asshole.
00:08:13.000 How are we going to equal this out here?
00:08:15.000 Because that's not forgivable.
00:08:17.000 They should be sued.
00:08:18.000 It's like you're doing some irreparable damage to someone.
00:08:22.000 It's just so weird today.
00:08:24.000 I can't imagine a time where people are more outraged about more things.
00:08:30.000 Yeah, I really think it's just, you say more people, but I really just think it's a small percentage of people that are always outraged on both sides all the time.
00:08:39.000 But they have an opportunity to talk about it more now.
00:08:42.000 Yeah.
00:08:42.000 We're all connected and they can piss other people off.
00:08:45.000 I just want to go both sides and give people big hairy ogre troll hugs and be like, it's all going to be okay.
00:08:51.000 We love you.
00:08:52.000 It's fine.
00:08:53.000 Yeah.
00:08:54.000 Please stop tweeting.
00:08:54.000 Yeah.
00:08:56.000 Like, Trump, just give me your phone.
00:08:58.000 You're not allowed to tweet anymore.
00:08:59.000 At least he's funny sometimes.
00:09:01.000 Sometimes.
00:09:02.000 Sometimes he's fucking funny, man.
00:09:04.000 He makes me laugh.
00:09:05.000 Like, one out of ten times, I will laugh out loud at his tweets.
00:09:07.000 Yeah.
00:09:08.000 You know?
00:09:09.000 Yeah.
00:09:10.000 First of all, sometimes I laugh out loud because I can't believe he's the fucking president.
00:09:13.000 I can't believe that guy's the president.
00:09:15.000 And then he'll say some ridiculous shit, and I'll just go, oh my god.
00:09:20.000 When he called the girl that he fucked, that porn star, when he called her horse face on Twitter, I was like, this is amazing.
00:09:27.000 This is so crazy.
00:09:29.000 I'm amazed that that man's the president.
00:09:32.000 Right now.
00:09:32.000 President, acting president, calling a woman he fucked horse face.
00:09:36.000 Yeah.
00:09:37.000 Oh my god.
00:09:39.000 It's just the weirdest time.
00:09:40.000 2020. What a time.
00:09:42.000 Oh, it's amazing.
00:09:43.000 But I mean, you know, there's some...
00:09:45.000 I wish I could be doing stand-up right now.
00:09:47.000 You know, if I could do stand-up, it would be more fun.
00:09:49.000 Because there'd be stuff...
00:09:50.000 So much material.
00:09:51.000 I mean, I could talk about it here, but yeah.
00:09:52.000 But actual material that you could work out about today?
00:09:55.000 Holy shit, there's never been a bigger gold mine that we hit.
00:09:58.000 Everybody's like, get the pants off.
00:10:00.000 I don't think you're allowed to talk about it though.
00:10:15.000 One of the things about the military is there's a lot of dark humor and people kind of look at us as these scarred, damaged people because of that humor.
00:10:23.000 But the truth is, like, we're able to talk about those things through this humor.
00:10:26.000 And whether it's like a release for post-traumatic stress or just how we're able to get to the next day, how we're able to go and do some of the things that we do, it's because we're allowed to joke and laugh and burn that stuff off these sensitive times.
00:10:38.000 And I think that's what comedy does.
00:10:40.000 To these socially charged issues.
00:10:43.000 Yes.
00:10:44.000 And J.P. Sears, long-haired kind of hippie YouTuber, he has been recently kind of attacking how comedians can't make jokes right now.
00:10:57.000 And how everything has been charged and there's not a way, like you can't make racist, sexist jokes.
00:11:22.000 I think?
00:11:32.000 But I think you just have to structure your bits better.
00:11:35.000 You have to treat them...
00:11:37.000 Like Doug Stanhope has a great quote that he was talking to me about.
00:11:40.000 He said, I go over my bits like I'm a defense attorney.
00:11:42.000 Like I'm going over my bits like I'm being prosecuted.
00:11:49.000 Someone's using the bit against me.
00:11:51.000 And so I have to figure it out like a defense attorney.
00:11:53.000 I'm like, that's a great way of looking at it.
00:11:54.000 Yeah, but what a horrible approach in the process to...
00:11:59.000 It is and it isn't, because he writes the joke first, and then he figures out how to make it bulletproof.
00:12:03.000 My method is usually I shit on myself so hard that by the time I get to shitting on someone else, I've already figured out...
00:12:13.000 Most of my bits that are controversial, they start out with me belittling myself in the most vicious way I can.
00:12:22.000 Explaining what a fucking idiot I am.
00:12:23.000 And then all the dumb shit that I've done that's related to this thing.
00:12:27.000 When I wanted to make a joke about Caitlyn Jenner, what I talked about was...
00:12:31.000 The first thing I talked about is how living with all women...
00:12:35.000 I have three daughters and my wife.
00:12:37.000 What I described it was, it's like if my manhood was a mountain of marbles, every day they'd take two.
00:12:44.000 Ugh.
00:12:44.000 Like, you have so many marbles.
00:12:46.000 God, every day, snatch a marble, snatch a marble.
00:12:48.000 And my whole bit was getting to, I wanted to get to, people were saying, he was born a woman.
00:12:54.000 He's always been a woman.
00:12:55.000 I was like, maybe.
00:12:57.000 Or, maybe, if you live with crazy bitches long enough, they fucking turn you into one.
00:13:04.000 Maybe you go crazy.
00:13:05.000 Maybe that too.
00:13:06.000 Especially those ones.
00:13:07.000 Especially those ones.
00:13:08.000 And so I had to figure out a way to do it.
00:13:11.000 And so I came up with this thing where they're demons and they whisper in his ear in the middle of the night and they talk him into being a woman.
00:13:16.000 But it took forever to figure out a way.
00:13:18.000 But it worked.
00:13:20.000 It worked and people didn't even get mad at me for it.
00:13:23.000 I just had to figure out a way to do it where, first of all, I belittle myself and then I explain it in a way where it's not dehumanizing trans people.
00:13:33.000 It's like saying, are we sure?
00:13:35.000 Yeah.
00:13:36.000 Are we sure?
00:13:37.000 We lost a fucking Olympic gold medalist, goddammit.
00:13:40.000 We lost one of our greatest athletes ever.
00:13:43.000 You look in the record book, what does it say now under Bruce Jenner?
00:13:46.000 What does it say?
00:13:47.000 Are you even allowed to say that anymore?
00:13:49.000 I don't think you can.
00:13:50.000 Wikipedia is going to put up whatever they want, which won't be factual, but how would the record books portray that?
00:13:57.000 I don't know how they handle it.
00:13:58.000 If you say that on Twitter, you'll get banned for life.
00:14:00.000 If you call him Bruce Jenner on Twitter, it's deadnaming.
00:14:03.000 They'll ban you for life.
00:14:05.000 Good to know.
00:14:06.000 It's hilarious.
00:14:07.000 That vexes me in a different way.
00:14:10.000 Yeah.
00:14:10.000 The fact that you have to think about a joke and its political or cancel culture ramifications to make sure it's politically correct enough for it to be bulletproof, whether you're a defense attorney, that sucks to me.
00:14:22.000 It does and it doesn't.
00:14:24.000 Because it's an opportunity to make your jokes better.
00:14:27.000 You can just make them...
00:14:28.000 And again, if you can get away with it, it's more sweet.
00:14:31.000 It's more juicy.
00:14:32.000 Yeah.
00:14:33.000 But man, I really like that First Amendment thing, you know?
00:14:37.000 Yeah, I like it too.
00:14:38.000 And I really like people being able to say things that make my blood boil.
00:14:42.000 And I don't want them to say things that are like...
00:14:45.000 I don't want to drink this coffee when it's lukewarm.
00:14:47.000 Right.
00:14:47.000 And I think that's what conversation is when you're everything politically correct is just this disgusting, gross version.
00:14:54.000 If I'm going to have champagne, I want to be freaking cold.
00:14:57.000 Yeah.
00:14:57.000 You know?
00:14:57.000 I know what you're saying.
00:14:58.000 Perfect.
00:14:58.000 36 degrees.
00:15:00.000 Yeah.
00:15:01.000 I don't want lukewarm coffee.
00:15:03.000 I don't want lukewarm champagne.
00:15:04.000 I want perfect.
00:15:05.000 And that's what communication is.
00:15:08.000 And when you start neutering how someone can talk, Like, that's not being able to express an idea.
00:15:16.000 You're limiting.
00:15:17.000 The counter to that, though, is that when you do get away with it, it makes it even more powerful.
00:15:22.000 A joke.
00:15:23.000 Yeah, I'm telling you, man.
00:15:24.000 The jokes that I've said on stage that are against political correctness, that are good, like the way I've figured out a way to weave some of them, when they hit, man, they hit like a bomb.
00:15:34.000 Like, the whole room was like, blah!
00:15:36.000 I go, you know I'm right.
00:15:38.000 You know what I'm saying.
00:15:39.000 Like, I'm not a bad person.
00:15:40.000 You know what I'm saying.
00:15:41.000 Yeah.
00:15:42.000 I have this whole chunk that I do on banning words.
00:15:48.000 And the whole chunk, it's like it took forever to figure out how to manipulate it and get it to this place where you could sneak it in on people.
00:15:57.000 And sneak it in on people that would ordinarily, you say those words in polite company and people would, their assholes would tense up.
00:16:04.000 But you can get it in.
00:16:05.000 And when you get it in, woo, it's sweet.
00:16:06.000 Bam!
00:16:07.000 Yeah, but I'm with you, man.
00:16:09.000 You know, I want whiskey to get me drunk.
00:16:11.000 I don't want fake whiskey.
00:16:13.000 No.
00:16:13.000 Yeah, I'm not interested.
00:16:14.000 I think there should be consequences.
00:16:16.000 I think the best way to combat things that you disagree with is to say how you feel, not to say that person shouldn't be able to say that.
00:16:26.000 That's ridiculous.
00:16:27.000 Yeah, that's dumb.
00:16:28.000 I was watching this video yesterday, and these guys were just saying dumb shit.
00:16:32.000 We were talking about people getting cloned in China.
00:16:34.000 And this lady goes, deplatform that shit, seriously.
00:16:38.000 She's like, what?
00:16:39.000 No, I want dumb people to say dumb things.
00:16:41.000 Yes.
00:16:42.000 Especially our politicians.
00:16:44.000 I think the art of listening has been lost.
00:16:47.000 One of the best things about, I think, this podcast is that you're a good listener, right?
00:16:51.000 It takes a decently smart human that has a self-confidence and developed interpersonal skills to listen.
00:16:58.000 That's lost in current culture, where...
00:17:02.000 I'm going to get so viscerally outraged at something that somebody's saying, I can't even hear their point of view.
00:17:09.000 Even if that point of view is wrong, you want that person to say that.
00:17:13.000 And the dumber it is, the more I want them to say it, because the dumber they sound.
00:17:16.000 And the more we, collective, logical, reasonable people, are like, well, that person's really dumb, and his ideas are not going to work.
00:17:29.000 So, let's not follow him anymore.
00:17:31.000 And then we're able to process.
00:17:33.000 Yeah, or have a counter.
00:17:34.000 This is what's wrong with what that person's saying.
00:17:36.000 But the idea you're supposed to de-platform them.
00:17:39.000 It's so bad.
00:17:40.000 It's so stupid, because then what if someone thinks they should de-platform you?
00:17:43.000 And I think you probably should be de-platformed for telling people they should be de-platformed.
00:17:47.000 How about that?
00:17:48.000 If you're the person that...
00:17:49.000 If that's more dangerous than some dummy thinking that they're cloning people in China...
00:17:53.000 And by the way, they might be cloning people in China, too.
00:17:55.000 I just don't know.
00:17:55.000 I mean, who the fuck?
00:17:56.000 Look, they can clone people.
00:17:58.000 We know that.
00:17:59.000 If anybody's going to do it.
00:18:00.000 Yeah, they're going to do it.
00:18:01.000 They're probably doing it.
00:18:02.000 China would be doing it.
00:18:02.000 They're probably doing it.
00:18:03.000 Look...
00:18:04.000 I mean, it's probably the least of our concerns.
00:18:07.000 I mean, as far as overpopulation goes, I mean, China's trying not to have as many people.
00:18:12.000 I mean, they had the whole one-child policy forever.
00:18:15.000 It turned out to be disastrous and tilted everything extraordinarily male.
00:18:20.000 I mean, I would not want to be a man in China trying to find a woman.
00:18:24.000 I mean, I don't know if I balanced that out yet, but that was a real issue for a long time.
00:18:29.000 I wouldn't want to be in China at all, because I'm a big fan of...
00:18:33.000 Freedom.
00:18:34.000 Yeah.
00:18:35.000 Yeah, freedom's nice.
00:18:36.000 It's pretty powerful.
00:18:37.000 It's goddamn important.
00:18:38.000 When you say de-platforming people, you don't think you're taking away freedom, but you are.
00:18:42.000 You're taking away a little bit of freedom.
00:18:45.000 I think it's extra important right now where people have been isolated for this, whatever, six, five months now from COVID, where...
00:18:56.000 We're good to go.
00:19:26.000 Yeah.
00:19:42.000 These ideas continue and gain momentum and they're not real because they've never been tested against anything that disagrees with them or that contradicts them.
00:19:52.000 And I think all ideas have to go through that process for them to be real.
00:19:56.000 Is that refiner's fire of, is this really going to work?
00:20:01.000 Let's apply pressure and find out.
00:20:02.000 Yeah, there's...
00:20:03.000 There's this defund the police thing that's going around right now.
00:20:06.000 My friend Matt had this funny thing that happened.
00:20:08.000 He has a son.
00:20:09.000 His son's about 25, I think he said.
00:20:11.000 And his son was talking about defunding the police, and he's arguing with them.
00:20:15.000 His son's, you know, real liberal and the whole deal.
00:20:17.000 Then his son was staying at...
00:20:18.000 They have a beach house, and it's an old house.
00:20:20.000 And the house was making, like, some crazy noises.
00:20:22.000 He ran outside and called his dad, and he said, there's something going on in the house.
00:20:26.000 I'm going to call the police.
00:20:27.000 He goes...
00:20:27.000 I thought you wanted to defund the police.
00:20:29.000 He goes, now the fucking house is haunted and you're calling the police?
00:20:32.000 You went from defund the police to the house is making noise, let me call the cops.
00:20:38.000 That's a pretty fast jump.
00:20:40.000 I mean, that's not only idiotic, it's dangerous.
00:20:43.000 It's dangerous and stupid and it's everything.
00:20:46.000 It's everything wrong with these ideas that just get propagated online that no one really thinks through, but then they become a thing that if you're cool, you say it.
00:20:55.000 If you're in the right group, you say it.
00:20:57.000 And that's what defund the police is.
00:20:59.000 And even fighting against those ideas, for some reason, I believe defunding the police is the dumbest thing you could possibly do.
00:21:07.000 Do I think there might be problems within law enforcement that should be addressed?
00:21:10.000 For sure.
00:21:11.000 How do you fix those?
00:21:13.000 You need funding.
00:21:14.000 You need funding, right?
00:21:15.000 Like, I have a school that's underperforming.
00:21:18.000 Kids are not graduating from high school.
00:21:19.000 Do you know what we should do?
00:21:20.000 We should take money from the school and we should give them fewer teachers.
00:21:23.000 And let's see if that's going to help.
00:21:24.000 No, that's not going to help.
00:21:26.000 You have to give them more teachers.
00:21:27.000 You have to give them more funding.
00:21:28.000 You have to give them more access to information.
00:21:29.000 And then maybe that school starts performing a little better.
00:21:34.000 A police department, they're just humans.
00:21:37.000 They're imperfect.
00:21:38.000 They need training.
00:21:39.000 They need funding.
00:21:40.000 They need support.
00:21:41.000 Right now they need morale and they need people.
00:21:44.000 And they need to get rid of the people that suck.
00:21:46.000 They need those things too.
00:21:47.000 And one of the best ways to do that is through training.
00:21:49.000 You weed people out.
00:21:50.000 You find out who can't cut it.
00:21:51.000 That's what it's supposed to be for.
00:21:53.000 Yeah, one of the best things about special operations is that there's so much training and process, the refiner's fire, the chaff in the wind.
00:22:04.000 Like you throw that stuff up and the crap blows away and the good stuff comes back down.
00:22:08.000 Then you take that stuff and you go and carry it into a fire and then you heat it and then you pull it out and you pound it.
00:22:13.000 Then you heat it again, you pound it, then you heat it, you pound it.
00:22:15.000 And what you're left with at the end is this pretty cool thing.
00:22:22.000 If any of that is with law enforcement, all of those things can only occur through training.
00:22:28.000 And if you want to test somebody, if you want to check, if you want to find racism, like having them show up to work for eight hours and letting them hop in a car and run out, you're never going to know what's inside of there.
00:22:41.000 The only time that you get access, that you get peaks of that, is at these stressful, emotionally drained moments.
00:22:48.000 And the only time that you can create those is through training.
00:22:51.000 I've been arguing that we should have that for all of our leaders.
00:22:54.000 We were talking about the mayor of California or the mayor of Los Angeles and the governor of California and the people that are deciding you can't trick-or-treat this year.
00:23:03.000 This is the new thing.
00:23:04.000 The one fucking holiday where you have to wear a mask.
00:23:07.000 You're supposed to wear a mask.
00:23:09.000 And for whatever reason, they've decided they're going to save people by stopping little kids, the ones who have the least problem with this disease, from trick-or-treating.
00:23:18.000 It's fucking asinine.
00:23:20.000 It's so dumb.
00:23:21.000 And I think part of it is because the people that are in that position, the people that are in the position of control, they don't have to be tested.
00:23:27.000 They don't have to show their character.
00:23:29.000 They just have to win a popularity contest that no one wants to enter.
00:23:32.000 No one wants to be the fucking mayor of LA. Who's entering?
00:23:35.000 No one wants to be the governor of California.
00:23:37.000 How many people?
00:23:38.000 Self-serving people are entering.
00:23:39.000 You know, Mayor Adler here in Austin, you know, like, Yeah, same shit.
00:23:44.000 Yeah, just get out of here.
00:23:46.000 Yeah.
00:23:46.000 Is there a public servant that wants to step up?
00:23:48.000 You know, I want Eminem to sing that song.
00:23:50.000 Will the real public servant step up?
00:23:52.000 There's nobody.
00:23:54.000 They get so scrutinized and it's such a ruthless business that the only people that you get left are these wishy-washy milky people.
00:24:01.000 I do wish that political parties were afraid of the people again.
00:24:06.000 That created a really healthy balance where they understand that they represent their constituents and their job is to do what their people want.
00:24:19.000 Once they get into this certain level of political power, they kind of just do whatever they want.
00:24:24.000 And they forget that they're supposed to be representing the people.
00:24:27.000 I've never seen California so charged right now against California.
00:24:33.000 Like, people are mad.
00:24:35.000 You know, the protests in Long Beach, in San Diego, in Mar-a-Lago.
00:24:39.000 Like, it's crazy the number of people that are coming out and being like, I'm not okay with what's happening right now.
00:24:44.000 And they shouldn't be.
00:24:46.000 It's insane.
00:24:46.000 Yeah.
00:24:46.000 Well, they've given dorks the ability to tell people they can't work.
00:24:49.000 That's what it is.
00:24:51.000 And that's Governor Newsom and Mayor Garcetti.
00:24:54.000 Those guys are dorks.
00:24:55.000 And they're in control of whether or not people can take risks and work.
00:24:59.000 How can somebody tell you not to work?
00:25:00.000 It's not scientific.
00:25:01.000 It's not politically correct.
00:25:03.000 Even if it were scientific, how can you tell me not to work?
00:25:07.000 Right.
00:25:08.000 Well, the idea is that you're putting other people at risk by working.
00:25:12.000 Because if you get infected, other people are going to get infected, too.
00:25:14.000 This is the idea behind it.
00:25:16.000 But it's a super flawed idea.
00:25:17.000 I'll volunteer to inject my neck with a hypodermic needle full of COVID compared to my children starving to death because I don't work.
00:25:26.000 And some, like the salon owners, are like, if I don't open up, I'm already four months behind on my mortgage or my rent.
00:25:36.000 To include this building, I'm going to be homeless, as are my kids, and you're going to be dealing with that next month if I don't open right now.
00:25:44.000 So people are just leaving the state.
00:25:46.000 They're like, well, I'm going to go somewhere where I have freedom.
00:25:48.000 And that's why so many people are coming here to Texas.
00:25:50.000 Yeah, well, they better remember why they left.
00:25:52.000 Exactly.
00:25:52.000 That's important.
00:25:53.000 I wanted to talk to you about that.
00:25:54.000 I want to have Texas politicians on, too.
00:25:57.000 Try to explain what the checks and balances are in this state that have kept it from being fucked up and given it the freedom that it enjoys right now.
00:26:03.000 And one of the reasons why people are coming here in the first place.
00:26:06.000 In droves!
00:26:07.000 Yeah, in droves.
00:26:07.000 I mean, from New York and California, I've...
00:26:11.000 I argue if you walk downtown Austin, if you walked even up north, like Lamar, Palmer, and you're like, hey, where are you from?
00:26:20.000 Four out of five people are going to be from California and New York.
00:26:25.000 And you're not from Texas?
00:26:27.000 To include myself!
00:26:28.000 And you.
00:26:29.000 And you.
00:26:30.000 Where are you from originally?
00:26:31.000 California.
00:26:32.000 Central California.
00:26:34.000 How did you get out here?
00:26:36.000 After...
00:26:39.000 When 9-11 happened, I enlisted.
00:26:41.000 And, you know, Georgia, Fort Bragg, deployments, Georgia, Fort Bragg, deployments, that cycle.
00:26:48.000 When I was fighting, I... I like Texas, and I could kind of live anywhere if I was going to go to New Mexico and do my training camps.
00:26:59.000 My wife is from the South, so she wanted to live in the South.
00:27:02.000 She's from Louisiana.
00:27:04.000 She was a government contractor, so she took a government contracting job here.
00:27:10.000 And, you know, we knew we were going to be in Texas.
00:27:12.000 We didn't know where.
00:27:13.000 And Austin felt like California.
00:27:15.000 So that's really how we ended up here.
00:27:17.000 They have a special operation.
00:27:18.000 They have a huge, outside of Fort Bragg, North Carolina, this has the largest group of special operations in the entire country.
00:27:29.000 Really?
00:27:29.000 Yeah.
00:27:30.000 Interesting.
00:27:30.000 Yeah.
00:27:31.000 How'd that happen?
00:27:34.000 Texas has the ideals that we kind of stand for.
00:27:37.000 I actually have a present for you from the Texas Special Operations community.
00:27:40.000 They're like, wait a second.
00:27:42.000 So they...
00:27:45.000 When I say they come here in droves, we have hundreds of Green Berets in the state of Texas from their Border Patrol workers that are still serving as Green Berets.
00:27:57.000 They're police officers, firefighters, work for FBI, but they live in Texas so they can be Texans that are Green Berets that then have their other shenanigan awesome jobs.
00:28:09.000 It's huge.
00:28:10.000 Wow.
00:28:11.000 Yeah, you're surrounded by them.
00:28:12.000 I didn't know.
00:28:14.000 Well, they figured out it's awesome here.
00:28:16.000 It is awesome.
00:28:16.000 It's very unusual.
00:28:18.000 I almost feel uncomfortable talking about how great it is here.
00:28:20.000 Yeah.
00:28:20.000 I'm going to make you uncomfortable in a little bit when I give you a present.
00:28:23.000 Okay.
00:28:23.000 Give it to me now.
00:28:23.000 All right.
00:28:24.000 So we can do this in Texas.
00:28:27.000 Oh, it's a gun.
00:28:29.000 Well, these are cigars.
00:28:32.000 I know they're important, and it just says, from the Special Operations Forces, the oppressor liber and range lead the way.
00:28:37.000 It's our motto.
00:28:37.000 All right.
00:28:38.000 Thank you.
00:28:39.000 Liberators of the oppressed.
00:28:40.000 Mmm.
00:28:41.000 Damn, that smells good.
00:28:45.000 Alright.
00:28:46.000 One of these is yours and one of these is yours.
00:28:49.000 Oh, Jamie.
00:28:50.000 I have to see which ones.
00:28:50.000 Alright, so this one's yours.
00:28:51.000 There's a pocket constitution.
00:28:53.000 So anytime you're like, man, what are we supposed to do in this instance?
00:28:56.000 A pocket constitution?
00:28:58.000 I love it.
00:28:58.000 Yeah, you just reference real fast.
00:29:00.000 Damn, this smells great.
00:29:01.000 You know, we're talking about the First Amendment.
00:29:03.000 Congress shall make no law respecting any establishment or religion, prohibiting the free exercise thereof, abridging the freedom of speech, the press, the right of people to peacefully assemble, petition the government for redress of grievances.
00:29:15.000 So this has all of them in here.
00:29:17.000 So this gun, I took, it has been shot, so I zeroed it for you.
00:29:21.000 Beautiful.
00:29:23.000 Got you a holster, too.
00:29:24.000 Welcome to Texas.
00:29:25.000 They bring you guns.
00:29:26.000 Yeah.
00:29:27.000 It's got a Leupold Delta Point red dot on there.
00:29:30.000 I love Leupold.
00:29:30.000 So this is like ready to...
00:29:32.000 Ready to go.
00:29:33.000 Ready to go.
00:29:34.000 It's zeroed.
00:29:35.000 It's FN509 compact.
00:29:42.000 Holla.
00:29:43.000 Hello!
00:29:44.000 Jamie, you got a gun now.
00:29:45.000 Are you excited?
00:29:47.000 So that is no longer my gun.
00:29:48.000 That is your gun.
00:29:49.000 Thank you very much.
00:29:50.000 Jamie, have you ever shot a gun?
00:29:51.000 I've shot your gun.
00:29:52.000 Oh, that's right.
00:29:53.000 Jamie, can you come over here?
00:29:54.000 I haven't shot it very much.
00:29:56.000 You shot rifles, right?
00:29:58.000 Yeah.
00:29:59.000 That cannon.
00:30:00.000 I didn't know what kind of shooter you were.
00:30:03.000 So this adjusts to...
00:30:05.000 I can put this on anything in your bag or a fanny pack.
00:30:09.000 If not, I'll get you a concealed carry holster like that.
00:30:11.000 I love this holster.
00:30:12.000 Thanks.
00:30:13.000 It's pretty.
00:30:14.000 Handmade.
00:30:15.000 So this is an FN 503, single stack, 9mm.
00:30:19.000 So this is like what you could carry here around Austin.
00:30:23.000 But this is...
00:30:24.000 Very nice, compact gun.
00:30:27.000 A lot of people right now are uncomfortable.
00:30:30.000 They've got guns!
00:30:31.000 Are you uncomfortable?
00:30:33.000 Nope.
00:30:34.000 This is your first gun?
00:30:35.000 Come here.
00:30:36.000 Give me a hug.
00:30:37.000 Give me a hug.
00:30:38.000 Come here.
00:30:39.000 There we go.
00:30:40.000 There we go.
00:30:41.000 There we go.
00:30:42.000 Listen.
00:30:42.000 Boom!
00:30:43.000 Welcome to Texas.
00:30:44.000 If anybody can get a gun from me, you can say, I got my first gun from Tim motherfucking Kennedy.
00:30:47.000 Yeah.
00:30:47.000 How about that?
00:30:48.000 And you never forget that that was because you came to Texas.
00:30:51.000 We're going to go to the range with Tim and Alex Jones.
00:30:54.000 How about that?
00:30:55.000 Ooh.
00:30:56.000 Texas only.
00:30:57.000 I think it's a Halloween thing.
00:30:59.000 You can shoot zombies.
00:31:00.000 You can get in a group and shoot zombies.
00:31:02.000 Not with real guns, obviously, but some zombie killer.
00:31:05.000 Real people probably dressed up like zombies that don't take paintball hits.
00:31:08.000 Really?
00:31:08.000 Yeah.
00:31:09.000 Somebody sent it to me like, let's go.
00:31:11.000 We have responsive targets that are built like zombies.
00:31:15.000 So you shoot them and blood comes out.
00:31:17.000 Yeah, I've seen those.
00:31:18.000 They call them heavy metal zombie competitions.
00:31:21.000 So, it's like a three-gun competition, so you have to shoot.45,.308, and 12-gauge, and you only headshots count.
00:31:30.000 So, as you...
00:31:31.000 Texas Zombie Safari!
00:31:35.000 Sounds like fun, right?
00:31:37.000 I wish I came here years ago.
00:31:39.000 Zombie Safari Dallas is open every Friday and Saturday in October.
00:31:43.000 Well, we're going.
00:31:46.000 Yeah, we have to go to that.
00:31:48.000 Weather's cooling off, so we're going to do a lot more helicopter pig hunts.
00:31:53.000 2,400 rounds, kill zombies.
00:31:55.000 Now, when you do the helicopter pig hunts, how do you guys gather up to meet?
00:31:58.000 Do you have someone that drives after the helicopter?
00:32:02.000 Depends on where we're going and what we're doing.
00:32:03.000 So, some branches, we're exterminating.
00:32:08.000 So, you don't even gather up to meet?
00:32:10.000 No.
00:32:10.000 Oh, wow.
00:32:11.000 And some of them are disgusting.
00:32:12.000 Yeah, but the meat's still good.
00:32:14.000 No, it's not.
00:32:14.000 Even if they're gross.
00:32:15.000 Really?
00:32:15.000 No.
00:32:15.000 Why?
00:32:17.000 You get an old male, like maggoty, rancid, gross, tough meat.
00:32:22.000 I don't want that.
00:32:23.000 You get like a young sow.
00:32:27.000 Those old ones though, seriously, if you put them on a smoker and you do it right and you brine them, they still taste good.
00:32:34.000 Why would you have 5 billion pigs in Texas?
00:32:40.000 Why would you cook a nasty one?
00:32:43.000 Just go get a nice sweet one over there.
00:32:45.000 And there's so many of them.
00:32:46.000 Like, if we go next week, I take you, you would shoot 50 picks.
00:32:53.000 From a helicopter.
00:32:55.000 Why would you pick a gross one?
00:32:57.000 I see what you're saying, but it just seems like you don't want to waste the meat, though.
00:33:01.000 I mean, there are people that would like that.
00:33:03.000 We'll talk about...
00:33:05.000 No.
00:33:05.000 No?
00:33:06.000 No.
00:33:06.000 Really?
00:33:07.000 Food-wise, if we're going to compare food, meat to...
00:33:10.000 So on a farm, 25% of your crop is destroyed by feral pigs.
00:33:15.000 Yes.
00:33:15.000 Every year.
00:33:16.000 It's a real problem here.
00:33:17.000 If you had a million dollars, you're automatically off the top $250,000 if your crop is gone to feral pigs.
00:33:24.000 Yes.
00:33:24.000 So you as a rancher, you're like, seeing a heavy-handed, hairy ogre like me, they're like, wait, you'll come and kill pigs on my property, and I don't have to do anything?
00:33:37.000 They'll welcome you.
00:33:39.000 How many times have you done this?
00:33:41.000 I don't know.
00:33:42.000 A thousand?
00:33:44.000 I don't know.
00:33:46.000 I have no idea.
00:33:47.000 A thousand times from helicopters!
00:33:50.000 Oh, what a great place to be.
00:33:51.000 Yeah.
00:33:52.000 But it's different shooting, though, because instead of a pot...
00:33:55.000 So if something's moving fast, like a vehicle, if I was going to be engaging something moving, let's say, from the right to the left...
00:34:02.000 You lead it.
00:34:02.000 Yeah, you have to lead it.
00:34:03.000 Well, when you're in a helicopter, you actually have to give a negative lead.
00:34:07.000 So you're going to shoot behind it.
00:34:08.000 Because you're going too fast.
00:34:09.000 Yeah, so whatever speed, if you're going, let's say, 80 knots...
00:34:12.000 You're gonna have to be behind it about the tail and the speed of that helicopter is gonna make up the difference to give you a middle impact.
00:34:19.000 Oh, interesting.
00:34:19.000 How fast is the helicopter going when you're shooting?
00:34:23.000 It depends on the pilot.
00:34:24.000 Sometimes that's you as a shooter.
00:34:26.000 You're just kind of having to judge how fast you're going.
00:34:30.000 Shane, who we'll fly with, he's a great pilot.
00:34:34.000 He'll camp the helicopter at a 45 degree angle and open up the shooter door.
00:34:39.000 We're only probably going 30 knots.
00:34:44.000 What's a knot in miles an hour?
00:34:47.000 One and a half.
00:34:49.000 Why do they use knots?
00:34:50.000 I don't know.
00:34:51.000 It's naval and aviation use it.
00:34:53.000 Just to confuse people.
00:34:54.000 Yeah.
00:34:56.000 Yeah.
00:34:56.000 But at that speed, you can aim, point at aim, point at impact, and just rack them up.
00:35:01.000 Yeah.
00:35:02.000 Wow.
00:35:02.000 Have you shot an FN 509 before?
00:35:04.000 No.
00:35:05.000 They're really good.
00:35:06.000 Yeah?
00:35:06.000 Yeah.
00:35:06.000 Strike or fire.
00:35:07.000 You shoot Glock?
00:35:08.000 Yeah.
00:35:09.000 It's a real similar trigger.
00:35:10.000 A little bit more combat feely.
00:35:12.000 That's the compact.
00:35:14.000 So you can...
00:35:14.000 I don't know.
00:35:15.000 Do you carry it?
00:35:16.000 I don't have a concealed carry.
00:35:17.000 We're going to fix that.
00:35:18.000 Okay.
00:35:19.000 Like super fast.
00:35:19.000 All right.
00:35:20.000 Excellent.
00:35:20.000 Good to hear.
00:35:21.000 Yeah.
00:35:21.000 You can't be here.
00:35:22.000 I gave you concealed a whole...
00:35:24.000 It's an open carry state, right?
00:35:25.000 Open carry stone.
00:35:26.000 Please don't do that.
00:35:27.000 Yeah.
00:35:27.000 It's like very antagonistic almost.
00:35:31.000 Yeah.
00:35:32.000 But like, that's, while I believe you have the right to do that, it's also one of those things that's like, it's also dumb to do it.
00:35:40.000 From a tactical perspective, why would you be sitting here with the thing that you want to protect you, exposed to the whole entire world, and telegraphing people?
00:35:50.000 If I walk into a room, that's the first guy I'm like, eh.
00:35:54.000 One, you're probably useless.
00:35:55.000 Two is, I'm concerned about you, not as an asset, but rather as a threat.
00:36:02.000 If you went out to any of the guys out here, or any of my friends, and you're like, do you open carry?
00:36:07.000 They're like, ha ha ha!
00:36:09.000 No, that's dumb.
00:36:10.000 I'm not going to do that.
00:36:11.000 Well, that's that thing that I was getting into about the protests when people were showing up at these Black Lives Matter protests with AKs around their neck.
00:36:19.000 What are you doing?
00:36:20.000 Do you know how many times they have accidentally discharged their weapon into the crowd?
00:36:25.000 Oh, I'm sure.
00:36:26.000 It's happened like a dozen times.
00:36:27.000 I'm sure.
00:36:28.000 It's heartbreaking because I respect that they're trying to...
00:36:32.000 I fully believe in protesting, love peaceful protests.
00:36:35.000 I even like that kind of bravado of open carry in that sense where they're like really...
00:36:42.000 I think a freedom not exercised is a freedom that's going to atrophy and die.
00:36:46.000 One of the reasons why I love comedy is because you are pushing the limit of what people are comfortable with, especially with the First Amendment.
00:36:54.000 So you're kind of torn on open carry in that sense.
00:36:57.000 I think it's super dumb, but I like people exercising their freedoms.
00:37:01.000 Interesting.
00:37:01.000 Yeah.
00:37:02.000 I see what you're saying, though.
00:37:04.000 The right person?
00:37:06.000 One, I would never be at a protest.
00:37:10.000 While I support it, it's dangerous to be there right now.
00:37:16.000 The cost versus gain of what happens at those peaceful protests.
00:37:22.000 And then the thought of even open caring is idiotic.
00:37:26.000 I agree with that.
00:37:28.000 I feel like showing up at one of those protests with a gun.
00:37:30.000 Unless they're coming to you and trying to take your house or break down your door, why are you walking around with a gun?
00:37:39.000 If it's supposed to be a peaceful protest, and the idea is what if someone comes to try to disrupt that peaceful protest?
00:37:46.000 You're inviting them almost with that gun.
00:37:48.000 Yeah, I mean, we had a poor kid killed here in Austin.
00:37:53.000 He had an AK and a poor Uber driver got in the middle of a protest and he's like, holy crap, his, you know, when he dropped, he had a drop off and he went to go do another pickup and Uber like automatically routes the way to go.
00:38:09.000 So he's following his little Uber route and he turns and he's like, oh man, I'm in the middle of a protest.
00:38:13.000 He's a soldier from Fort Hood right here.
00:38:16.000 And he's concealed carrying in his Uber vehicle.
00:38:20.000 And he gets stuck in the protest, and the protesters just swarm his car.
00:38:24.000 And this kid that died...
00:38:27.000 He's actually a really neat kid.
00:38:29.000 Because his girlfriend was black.
00:38:33.000 He's there to support her.
00:38:35.000 She had a bunch of physical impairments.
00:38:37.000 She was in a wheelchair.
00:38:38.000 Yeah.
00:38:39.000 So he's like a neat kid.
00:38:40.000 Yeah.
00:38:41.000 Not smart.
00:38:42.000 He's open caring at a protest, you know, and he was saying kind of some inflammatory things beforehand, but like, I think his point and his purpose was really good and pure and like trying to do the right thing.
00:38:52.000 Right.
00:38:53.000 But then he runs up to the side of a car and points a gun at an Uber driver that is scared and confused, and he gets shot.
00:39:00.000 Yeah.
00:39:02.000 That's the recipe for disaster.
00:39:03.000 I saw so many different versions of that story, too, where people had twisted the facts.
00:39:09.000 People had said he was unarmed.
00:39:11.000 The guy who got shot, people were saying that the guy who did it was a white supremacist who drove into the protest on purpose.
00:39:19.000 And the video was edited where it looked like the guy was making a right-hand turn, and he sped up because he was trying to get around a person, and they cut right there because it looks like the guy's speeding up to go into the crowd.
00:39:28.000 But super, when you watch the whole video, it's really obvious what that poor kid was trying to do, the driver.
00:39:33.000 I saw a fascinating...
00:39:35.000 This PhD on communication broke down from the initial release of the information of the story, how it immediately started being...
00:39:45.000 Distorted.
00:39:46.000 Yeah, for two different sides.
00:39:48.000 Like, I'm going to leave out this detail.
00:39:49.000 I'm going to include this detail.
00:39:51.000 And by the time you got, you know, the game Telephone, where you're like, hey, here's this catchphrase.
00:39:57.000 And by the time it gets all the way around the room, it doesn't sound like any semblance of what it did when it started.
00:40:03.000 When you got to the final version, I'm super enraged at one version, and I'm super enraged at another version.
00:40:09.000 But neither of them are true.
00:40:12.000 And that's what every single issue is happening, from defunding the police, to Black Lives Matter, to Antifa.
00:40:19.000 It's like, can we just be reasonable and talk about what's really happening?
00:40:24.000 Yeah.
00:40:24.000 And we have some real good examples of what the worst case scenarios are in this country right now.
00:40:30.000 And one of them is Portland.
00:40:32.000 Portland is one of the best case scenarios of completely unreasonable, ridiculous shit that's going on every single day.
00:40:41.000 101 days of protest.
00:40:42.000 That fucking mayor up there is the most progressive mayor in the country.
00:40:47.000 And they're like, fuck you, resign.
00:40:49.000 We're going to burn your house down.
00:40:50.000 He had to move out because they're going to burn his place down.
00:40:52.000 Well, they tried to burn down his lobby.
00:40:54.000 They were throwing fiery things into his lobby.
00:40:56.000 They were lighting fires in front of the street, in front of his house, having dance parties in front of his apartment building.
00:41:00.000 So I was just coming back from Africa on an SFA mission, a security forces assistance, like a We, the military, go to places that have insurgents and we try to legitimize the process of government.
00:41:18.000 So in counterinsurgency, there's like all of these different missions from joint combined exercises for training to foreign internal defense to SFA, security forces, assistance.
00:41:30.000 And I'm over there doing a counterinsurgency mission and I'm coming back and I'm seeing the same kind of horrible, dangerous recipe that In Portland, you know, the same types of organization structure and it's an insurgency is a charged idea that,
00:41:54.000 you know, insurgency as the DOD defines it is an organized group trying to delegitimize or overthrow a constitutional government.
00:42:04.000 Like that's how the DOD defines it.
00:42:07.000 And I think if you went to almost anyone in Portland, they're like, what are you trying to do right now?
00:42:12.000 Like, that's what they're trying to do.
00:42:14.000 Yeah.
00:42:14.000 Right?
00:42:15.000 Like, that's what they believe.
00:42:15.000 But they're open about it.
00:42:16.000 Yeah.
00:42:17.000 Which is...
00:42:18.000 All right.
00:42:18.000 And that creates a really hard...
00:42:21.000 How do you combat that?
00:42:24.000 Because you have to combat the grievances and the ideas.
00:42:27.000 You have to...
00:42:27.000 And as dangerous as it is, those ideas are like a cancer.
00:42:32.000 Because when the truth and information is being...
00:42:37.000 Just like we talked about with the shooting here in Austin, where you have two different versions and some people are in the echo chamber of only hearing one side of it.
00:42:45.000 It just keeps radicalizing more and more and catching more momentum.
00:42:50.000 And then the reason that they're there is so convoluted with, you know, are you there for Black Lives Matter?
00:42:57.000 Are you there to fight systemic racism?
00:43:01.000 Are you here to, like, what are you protesting about?
00:43:03.000 Right.
00:43:04.000 I think you'd get a lot of different answers.
00:43:06.000 Yeah.
00:43:07.000 That's dangerous.
00:43:08.000 Now you're just there to do damage.
00:43:11.000 You're not really trying to do anything that's good.
00:43:14.000 It's also exciting.
00:43:15.000 This is the other thing about it.
00:43:16.000 When you're allowed to throw fire into the lobby of the apartment building where the mayor lives and no one stops you, and you're out in front and people are playing music and dancing and everyone's going...
00:43:30.000 Black lives matter!
00:43:32.000 There's excitement to that, right?
00:43:35.000 Something's happening.
00:43:36.000 And then when you're talking about people that are out of work, the economy's fucked, no one knows what to do, everyone's scared, COVID's killing a certain percentage of people, you can't Do anything about it.
00:43:47.000 There's no vaccines.
00:43:48.000 There's all this tension in the air.
00:43:50.000 And then you have this movement.
00:43:51.000 And then this is the most exciting thing that's happening.
00:43:54.000 And then for people that don't have jobs and can't go anywhere, what the fuck do you want them to do?
00:43:59.000 They're going to get sucked up into that, especially if it aligns with their political ideologies, if they're a left-leaning person.
00:44:05.000 And they're like, look, we have a real chance for a real revolution here.
00:44:09.000 But what they don't understand, I was talking about Seattle.
00:44:13.000 You're doing the same thing that you would hate for people to do.
00:44:18.000 You're taking over businesses with force.
00:44:21.000 You're occupying land that you don't deserve.
00:44:24.000 You're stealing buildings.
00:44:26.000 You're literally occupying buildings that other people built.
00:44:29.000 And then once you get there, you're establishing boundaries.
00:44:33.000 You're putting up barriers.
00:44:34.000 You have a police force that will attack and brutally beat people up for just filming what they perceive as injustices.
00:44:41.000 Or what they're going to put on the internet.
00:44:43.000 And then people get shot and you're calling the fucking cops.
00:44:46.000 You call the police and ambulances when people get shot there.
00:44:49.000 Do you know how goddamn crazy this is?
00:44:51.000 It's so poorly thought out across the board.
00:44:53.000 And if you do that, if you take over an area, what's to stop people from doing that to you?
00:45:00.000 You've already set a precedent.
00:45:01.000 You've already said we could do this with force.
00:45:03.000 We're going to move in with no law behind us, with no court ruling, with no reasonable discourse.
00:45:09.000 We're going to move in with force.
00:45:11.000 And we're going to take over an air with numbers and threats.
00:45:14.000 And then what's going to stop someone from doing that to you?
00:45:16.000 Nothing, you fuck.
00:45:18.000 You've already set a precedent.
00:45:19.000 You've already said this is how it's done.
00:45:21.000 And then it's just chaos and anarchy.
00:45:22.000 It just gets worse.
00:45:24.000 Exactly.
00:45:24.000 And the more violent and larger group will win.
00:45:27.000 So from the mission of counterinsurgency, like how do you fight those ideas, is stability and security, right?
00:45:35.000 If we want to see positive change and kind of destitute...
00:45:41.000 Yes.
00:45:46.000 Yes.
00:46:02.000 Capitalism arrives, more job opportunities, more wealth, more education.
00:46:08.000 Immediately, in 10 years, you'll see the transformation of a block when a good business comes in and good things start happening.
00:46:17.000 That business can't go there if it's dangerous, if it's rioting and it's looting.
00:46:22.000 So if you look at every one of the cities that had serious riots from Rodney King, how bad those areas still are, it takes like 50, 60 years, if they ever bounce back, to come back from that.
00:46:36.000 So if you're like, yo, go Black Lives Matter, but then you're going and rioting, you are absolutely condemning yourself to To more poverty.
00:46:44.000 And then you go and defund the police and you remove the one thing that's going to provide stability and security out in that area that will bring in commerce, that will bring in business and jobs.
00:46:53.000 Like, you're screwing yourself.
00:46:56.000 It's just so hard for people to see that because it's a long game.
00:47:00.000 In the short term, they want justice, and they're like, no justice, no peace, and they just want to light shit on fire.
00:47:05.000 And I understand that they're angry, and I understand that sentiment, but no one's explaining that this is how this plays out.
00:47:13.000 You're literally going to fuck that area.
00:47:15.000 For a long time.
00:47:17.000 Yeah.
00:47:18.000 And a lot of money is going to have to be spent in order to bring it back.
00:47:22.000 So the money is a hard thing.
00:47:25.000 Insurgencies are really cheap.
00:47:27.000 You know, if...
00:47:29.000 If I wanted to ruin something, you know, it doesn't take a lot of effort for me to destroy it.
00:47:34.000 For me to build and protect something, that takes a lot of manpower and hours.
00:47:41.000 Insurgencies are also way more successful than a, you know, conventional type war.
00:47:46.000 Even if it's just war of ideas, not that we're in a civil war.
00:47:50.000 Thank God we don't have like geographic lines that these radical groups could align themselves with because then we'd be in a different problem.
00:47:58.000 It takes not just manpower, funding.
00:48:02.000 If you're going to flood, say, Baltimore with police officers, that's a lot of money.
00:48:07.000 And it would take a long time for a business to feel like it's safe and secure for them to go in there and start affecting positive change, opening more stores, more jobs, more jobs, more wealth, more wealth, more education, more education,
00:48:23.000 better schools.
00:48:24.000 And then, boom, we have a flourishing community where people can prosper.
00:48:30.000 But it takes, you know, one idiot with a Molotov cocktail to bring that all crumbling down again.
00:48:35.000 Yeah, and you start from scratch or below scratch.
00:48:38.000 Yeah.
00:48:39.000 Yeah.
00:48:40.000 And that's where we are.
00:48:41.000 Yep.
00:48:41.000 I mean, this is a trying time for us in the weirdest of ways because I don't think anybody anticipated everything going this far south so quickly.
00:48:50.000 It's not done.
00:48:51.000 Oh, this is yours.
00:48:52.000 What's that?
00:48:53.000 Oh, my constitution.
00:48:55.000 Back up, fuckers.
00:48:56.000 Yeah.
00:48:57.000 I got the papers.
00:48:58.000 Just how it is.
00:48:59.000 Not for interpretation.
00:49:01.000 It's just as it is.
00:49:02.000 Just read the words.
00:49:03.000 Just amazing that these guys saw human nature and how it could be fucked up and how they could ruin everything so far in advance.
00:49:12.000 Do you smoke cigars?
00:49:13.000 I don't.
00:49:14.000 You don't at all?
00:49:14.000 No, I'm a pretty straight-edge-ish person.
00:49:18.000 Don't drink at all?
00:49:19.000 I'll have like a glass of wine every other night.
00:49:22.000 It's good for your blood.
00:49:23.000 It's good for your heart.
00:49:25.000 Allegedly.
00:49:26.000 That's what they say, yeah.
00:49:27.000 That's the extent of it.
00:49:28.000 Yeah, but you know those are like epidemiology studies.
00:49:30.000 Yeah.
00:49:31.000 It's like, how many people have a glass of wine every other night?
00:49:33.000 How are they doing?
00:49:34.000 Yeah.
00:49:34.000 And look at them.
00:49:35.000 It's not like they've proven a glass of wine does X or Y. It also tastes really good with elk.
00:49:41.000 Tastes good.
00:49:41.000 Yeah.
00:49:42.000 I like it with steak, yeah.
00:49:43.000 I'm a big fan of red meat and red wine.
00:49:46.000 Yeah.
00:49:46.000 It's a good combination.
00:49:47.000 But that's the...
00:49:48.000 I have a big, pretty liquor cabinet of nothing that I ever drink that people just give me.
00:49:52.000 So when people come over, I'm like, yeah, you can...
00:49:54.000 No mushrooms?
00:49:55.000 No psychedelics?
00:49:56.000 No, I've never done anything ever.
00:49:57.000 What?
00:49:58.000 Nope.
00:49:58.000 That might be part of your problem.
00:50:00.000 I have lots of problems.
00:50:02.000 There's no doubt that that is on the long, dignified list.
00:50:06.000 Have you thought about it?
00:50:07.000 Thought about diving into any of those?
00:50:08.000 Man, I have teenage daughters.
00:50:11.000 One's a freshman in college, one's a senior in high school.
00:50:14.000 And if I ever thought about it, and then I have an 11-month-old and a 5-year-old.
00:50:21.000 Dude, you do a lot of fucking...
00:50:23.000 Yeah.
00:50:25.000 All of them will be through school before I ever thought about it.
00:50:28.000 I get it.
00:50:30.000 My dad was a narcotics officer.
00:50:32.000 Oh, that's what it is.
00:50:35.000 Which was funny because I had, like, intentionally, just to make him mad, I had friends that were drug dealers.
00:50:39.000 But I would never use, but I'd be around it all the time.
00:50:44.000 That's interesting.
00:50:45.000 How'd you avoid it?
00:50:47.000 Being an athlete, being a martial artist, being a fighter.
00:50:50.000 I was more into being able to beat somebody up than not.
00:50:56.000 What was your first martial art that you got into?
00:50:59.000 Karate.
00:51:00.000 What kind?
00:51:01.000 Shotokan.
00:51:02.000 Oh.
00:51:04.000 And then I went to Japanese Jiu Jitsu after that.
00:51:07.000 And Takara Yakiya Jiu Jitsu.
00:51:09.000 And I did that for a while.
00:51:09.000 And then I ended up at the pit.
00:51:11.000 Hawaiian Kempo with John Hackleman and Chuck.
00:51:14.000 San Luis Obispo?
00:51:15.000 Yep.
00:51:16.000 Aurora Grande in San Luis Obispo.
00:51:21.000 It was actually Jake Shields that brought me to the pit.
00:51:25.000 Really?
00:51:25.000 Yeah.
00:51:26.000 He showed up.
00:51:27.000 So I was like the big guy at the gym and grappling, right?
00:51:33.000 I wrestled and so I could go in and kind of smash a lot of the people.
00:51:37.000 And then this kind of awkward, weird white kid comes in and just like mops the floor with my soul.
00:51:45.000 And I was like, who are you?
00:51:47.000 Where did you come from?
00:51:48.000 And what did you do?
00:51:49.000 Like, what is this?
00:51:50.000 He's like, well, it's like catch wrestling, you know, which is kind of like jujitsu and wrestling kind of put together, you know, but then we fight, and I think I was 16, 15, 16 at this time.
00:52:02.000 He's like, and we, in San Luis Obispo, there's these other guys that do it, this Gan McGee and Scott Adams and Chuck Liddell and Antonio Banuelas, Cruz Gomez, and I was like...
00:52:14.000 Cool, I want to go there.
00:52:15.000 So I went there and got my brains bashed in forever.
00:52:20.000 Yeah, Hafferman's an interesting character himself.
00:52:22.000 He is.
00:52:23.000 He's quite a character.
00:52:25.000 Yeah, he's a great coach though, especially back then.
00:52:29.000 He invested a lot and he was old school.
00:52:33.000 And guys like Chuck and myself, we needed old school.
00:52:38.000 Now, coaches can't do or say the things that John would say back then.
00:52:46.000 And I love John now, but he was not a kind coach.
00:52:50.000 He's still training Glover, right?
00:52:52.000 Yeah.
00:52:53.000 And then Alex Pereira is with them now as well, which I thought was very interesting.
00:52:57.000 Yeah, Court McGee is still in and out.
00:52:59.000 Oh, is he?
00:52:59.000 Yeah.
00:53:00.000 Quartz had some injuries, right?
00:53:02.000 Yeah.
00:53:02.000 I think his whole career has kind of been like that.
00:53:04.000 Yeah.
00:53:05.000 That was a guy that was always on my radar of like, I thought I might fight.
00:53:08.000 Because when I went to Jackson's, you know, his clear break separation.
00:53:13.000 And he's in the pit in Utah, right?
00:53:16.000 Yeah.
00:53:16.000 Yeah.
00:53:18.000 You've got to stay healthy.
00:53:20.000 He's one of those guys that almost died and came back because of drugs.
00:53:24.000 And there's a few of those guys that are almost unbreakable.
00:53:28.000 They almost die and come back, and then they become these insanely disciplined people.
00:53:34.000 And he's one of those.
00:53:35.000 Is that good, though, to almost die from drugs?
00:53:38.000 No, I don't think it's good.
00:53:39.000 I think whatever led him to drugs, he probably could have squashed those demons with training.
00:53:44.000 But the problem with...
00:53:46.000 There's many obsessions and addictions that come from almost the same energy that could be applied to something that makes you incredibly successful.
00:54:00.000 It's where your brain is fixated, whether it's on gambling or whatever it is, whatever these addictions are.
00:54:08.000 I think?
00:54:28.000 To something that is ultimately positive, like training.
00:54:30.000 That's what I do.
00:54:31.000 Yeah.
00:54:31.000 I have a huge...
00:54:32.000 I've never had any addiction to negative stuff, but I think if you looked at my life from how I train, how I shoot, how I work, how I run my companies, you're like, this guy's a psychopath with the disciplined regiment of literal pain and suffering that I intentionally put my body through.
00:54:54.000 Yeah.
00:54:55.000 And that's to stay productive, and so it's all constructive.
00:54:59.000 I always joke that if I didn't do martial arts and fight and go to the military where all of those things were encouraged, like, yeah, we want you to fight.
00:55:08.000 We want you to kind of be a violent badass.
00:55:12.000 I would be in prison, for sure.
00:55:16.000 There's a lot of people like that out there.
00:55:18.000 Yeah, a lot of people.
00:55:19.000 A lot of people that are in prison that I, to this day, feel like we could have got them when they were young and said, hey, listen, listen, this is the path you're on.
00:55:28.000 But this is a way better path you can get on.
00:55:31.000 It's fucking exciting.
00:55:32.000 And it's going to feel good.
00:55:34.000 Yeah, I mean, it's painful.
00:55:36.000 It's hard.
00:55:37.000 It's so rewarding, though.
00:55:38.000 Yeah, so rewarding.
00:55:39.000 Trying to talk, convince somebody to buy into this way of life.
00:55:43.000 And I think hard work...
00:55:48.000 All the things that you want on the far side of hard work and getting somebody to believe that where they have to make all these kind of small decisions where am I waking up early?
00:55:59.000 Am I not going to be drinking?
00:56:01.000 Am I not going to be doing drugs?
00:56:02.000 Am I going to be training?
00:56:03.000 Am I going to all of these tiny little decisions start adding up and like the Titanic and I think?
00:56:35.000 And it would have only taken these small early adjustments to see the whole entire change of its course.
00:56:42.000 But the belief, right?
00:56:43.000 You're at the helm and you're telling me to start moving the boat.
00:56:50.000 And I'm like, I don't want to.
00:56:51.000 I don't need to.
00:56:52.000 All the excuses are there.
00:56:54.000 But it is so rewarding to be on the far side of all of that.
00:56:59.000 It's just people need to know about these procrastination demons that haunt your mind, and they will rob you of all possible success.
00:57:09.000 Of everything.
00:57:10.000 They'll steal everything from you.
00:57:11.000 Yeah.
00:57:17.000 The biggest thing that we're trying to impart, like I'm not going to in two and a half days, I'm not going to turn somebody into a great fighter.
00:57:23.000 I'm not going to turn somebody into a great shooter in two and a half days.
00:57:26.000 But what they're going to learn is they're going to learn their assets and their liabilities.
00:57:30.000 And they're going to learn about themselves about what do they need to do that we're going to put them on a course, a direction, a path.
00:57:38.000 All the things they need to do to positively change their life.
00:57:41.000 And it becomes this, I'll use addictive, like this all-consuming passion to want to know that your family's safe, to not live in fear, to know that you're healthy.
00:57:52.000 Like, I have less body fat.
00:57:54.000 I'm feeling kind of like a badass.
00:57:56.000 I want to flirt with my wife a little bit more.
00:57:58.000 Now I'm having more sex.
00:57:59.000 Now my energy's going up.
00:58:00.000 Now I'm sleeping better.
00:58:01.000 And the next day's even better.
00:58:02.000 So I can train a little bit more.
00:58:04.000 I can work a little bit more.
00:58:05.000 I can shoot a little bit more.
00:58:06.000 And then like the next day, I'm even better.
00:58:08.000 And like just 1% incremental changes now two months removed.
00:58:13.000 You're like, who is this person?
00:58:14.000 You just lost 20 pounds of fat.
00:58:16.000 Like you've got calluses on your hands.
00:58:18.000 You don't have that fat baby chub on your face anymore.
00:58:20.000 And more importantly, I see life in your eyes where you showed up two months ago and there's like this ghost skeleton of a human.
00:58:26.000 Now I see a person.
00:58:28.000 It's rad.
00:58:29.000 And I get to see this transformation of people.
00:58:31.000 It's one of my favorite things about what I do.
00:58:33.000 Yeah, it's so hard for people that don't do it to understand that if you do push your body, it gets stronger and you grow and then you literally feel better.
00:58:43.000 I tried to explain it to a friend of mine.
00:58:44.000 I said, imagine if you have a race car and the race car is 400 horsepower and a certain width tire and a certain kind of suspension, but literally you can make it have more horsepower and handle better and all you have to do is work.
00:58:57.000 You just have to push it, and the tires will widen, and the suspension will toughen, and it'll be more pliable around corners.
00:59:05.000 The engine will get stronger.
00:59:07.000 The exhaust will sound better.
00:59:09.000 It'll be more rewarding to drive.
00:59:11.000 You can do this.
00:59:12.000 You can do it with your body.
00:59:13.000 Like, your body literally is like a race car.
00:59:15.000 Yes, and your mind.
00:59:16.000 Your mind goes along with it, which is another thing that bums me out where really smart people don't want to work out because they think it's like...
00:59:23.000 They think it's for meatheads, or they think it's a stupid egotistical pursuit.
00:59:28.000 I'm like, no, you literally are all connected.
00:59:31.000 Your brain and your body are one.
00:59:33.000 Total human condition.
00:59:35.000 Yes.
00:59:35.000 Just because you...
00:59:36.000 Look, if you're an awesome pianist, right, and you're really good at playing the piano...
00:59:42.000 We're good to go.
01:00:06.000 Like, his body conditioned to be able to do those things.
01:00:09.000 It wasn't like immediately he had this one and a half octave reach, right?
01:00:12.000 He learned and his hands literally grew to be able to play chords that if you and I go and play them right now, we have carpals tunnel in six months.
01:00:20.000 You know, like, his body adapted, evolved to be able to play like this...
01:00:28.000 Like, that's so freaking cool.
01:00:29.000 I love humans.
01:00:30.000 I love humans too.
01:00:32.000 My friend Cam Haynes, he does a bunch of ultra-marathons.
01:00:34.000 No, stop it.
01:00:34.000 I hate that guy.
01:00:35.000 I love that guy.
01:00:36.000 He's an awesome dude.
01:00:37.000 Yeah.
01:00:37.000 And he started out, like, it's funny when I talked to him, like, when I started running, he goes, I better run a mile.
01:00:43.000 And that's...
01:00:44.000 So someone's saying, like, how the fuck does someone run 240 miles?
01:00:47.000 I go, well, you start by running a mile.
01:00:49.000 Yeah.
01:00:50.000 How do you start eating an elephant?
01:00:51.000 Yeah.
01:00:51.000 You start and you just...
01:00:52.000 You keep...
01:00:53.000 And then next thing you know, you can run three miles.
01:00:56.000 And you can do it at a comfortable pace.
01:00:57.000 And then...
01:00:58.000 Six months later, you can run six miles at a comfortable pace.
01:01:01.000 And then six months after that, you can run a marathon at a comfortable pace.
01:01:05.000 And then six months after that, you can run an ultra marathon.
01:01:09.000 You've got to keep...
01:01:10.000 You said six months, though.
01:01:12.000 People want immediate and early gratification, right?
01:01:14.000 How can I just hit a button or just watch an app or pull up a YouTube video and teach me how to do that?
01:01:19.000 Because it takes work.
01:01:21.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
01:01:22.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
01:01:23.000 So how do you convince somebody to do it?
01:01:25.000 Because this idea, this constitutional republic that we're in, it was possible because the individuals were strong, self-sufficient, and they believed in individual responsibility, right?
01:01:38.000 And they had fucking balls to come to another continent.
01:01:42.000 Yeah, big, huge, powerful...
01:01:44.000 I'm going to fight a bear?
01:01:47.000 Start a republic.
01:01:49.000 Start a whole new thing.
01:01:51.000 That's not possible.
01:01:53.000 Without that individual being a freaking stud.
01:01:57.000 And not this fat, flagellant, gelatin human sitting on the couch playing video games and None of these ideas are possible if we continue down this soft trajectory of wanting instant gratification and believing that we're entitled to anything.
01:02:17.000 We have to believe that you've got to be a badass for this to work.
01:02:22.000 There's so many people that are conditioned to instant gratification.
01:02:25.000 And there's so many people that just want to take a pill.
01:02:27.000 That's another problem with today.
01:02:29.000 You feel bad?
01:02:30.000 Do you feel bad?
01:02:30.000 Well, you need to take a pill.
01:02:32.000 Or go run four miles and do what your brain does.
01:02:36.000 The same freaking thing that your pill just made you do, but it happened naturally.
01:02:40.000 And you'll be healthier.
01:02:41.000 And you're going to produce more of it tomorrow.
01:02:45.000 I don't know a lot of really depressed, frustrated, sad, healthy, smart people.
01:02:53.000 Who exercise a lot.
01:02:54.000 Yeah.
01:02:55.000 No, it's not.
01:02:56.000 I mean, I'm sure there's some.
01:02:58.000 I'm sure there are absolutely some mental imbalances, just like some people have liver disease, right?
01:03:02.000 And they don't even drink.
01:03:03.000 Some people, they get cancer and they didn't do anything wrong because the body fucks up sometimes.
01:03:07.000 That also happens with your brain.
01:03:09.000 It happens with hormones.
01:03:10.000 It happens with your brain's ability to produce dopamine and serotonin.
01:03:15.000 Sometimes it just doesn't work right.
01:03:16.000 And that is a real thing.
01:03:19.000 But more often than not, that's not what's going on.
01:03:22.000 Nope, just go do the work.
01:03:23.000 Just go do the work.
01:03:24.000 Yeah, it feels so good.
01:03:25.000 And everything, like, how much do you love eating your elk?
01:03:28.000 I love it.
01:03:29.000 Not only does it taste fantastic, right?
01:03:31.000 Not only do you look at it and remember, every time I'm cooking, whether, like, I had lasagna the other night.
01:03:36.000 I took some elk made Italian sausage, a little bit of pork fat, a bunch of Italian oregano and thyme that were mixed into the meat.
01:03:44.000 Uh, so I made a lasagna with ground backstrap and Italian sausage two nights ago, but the, like, as I'm cooking and I'm remembering walking up this mountain and seeing it two ridges away and be like, okay, where's the wind coming from?
01:04:01.000 How am I, am I going to button hook around this thing so that I can stay upwind of it and, uh, catch it in this next ravine, you know, and like Every single moment, the smells, and it's all coming back to you.
01:04:11.000 And then I sit down at the table, I've got my family with me, and we're going to eat this together.
01:04:16.000 It's amazing.
01:04:16.000 It's like magical.
01:04:17.000 It's hard for people to understand that have never done it before, but it is eating something that you have hunted and killed yourself is a different thing.
01:04:25.000 It's a different thing.
01:04:26.000 It really is.
01:04:27.000 Yeah, so fun though.
01:04:28.000 In Texas, boy, what a good place to do it.
01:04:31.000 You can fucking do it anywhere here.
01:04:32.000 There's so many ranches here.
01:04:34.000 It's crazy.
01:04:34.000 There's not a lot of public land, so it's going to be a little bit different.
01:04:37.000 Only 2%.
01:04:38.000 Yeah.
01:04:38.000 The whole state, which is kind of bonkers.
01:04:41.000 Yeah, but I mean, is the government really supposed to be owning our land?
01:04:44.000 Whoa, you just got old Texas on me.
01:04:46.000 Yeah.
01:04:47.000 Yeah.
01:04:49.000 Listen, I'm not opposed to owning property.
01:04:52.000 And you can pay to hunt all these places.
01:04:54.000 And most of these places are, a lot of them, I should say, are commercial hunting ranches.
01:04:59.000 And they're not unreasonable.
01:05:00.000 And you can go, and for a small amount of money, when you think about the amount of animal that you get, I mean, if you...
01:05:07.000 Hundreds of pounds.
01:05:07.000 Yeah, and especially pigs.
01:05:09.000 Yeah.
01:05:10.000 First of all, wild pigs.
01:05:12.000 You've eaten wild pigs.
01:05:14.000 I fucking love them.
01:05:15.000 I think they're goddamn delicious.
01:05:17.000 I love them.
01:05:18.000 You gotta get the right one, you gotta cut the right way.
01:05:19.000 Well, I got lucky, and the ones that I've hunted have been at Tohono Ranch in California, and they eat a lot of acorns.
01:05:26.000 Oh, wow.
01:05:26.000 And they were real thick with fat.
01:05:28.000 Oh, my God.
01:05:29.000 They're so good.
01:05:30.000 I shot one with John Dudley, and we brined it and slow cooked it on the Traeger.
01:05:35.000 It was incredible.
01:05:36.000 I love the Traeger.
01:05:37.000 Oh, I love it.
01:05:38.000 So easy to cook.
01:05:39.000 That's the thing.
01:05:40.000 Yeah.
01:05:40.000 I had this walk-in, I mean, it's half the size of the studio, this walk-in smoker.
01:05:45.000 And it had the heating element and the smoke element and had it kind of like insulated.
01:05:51.000 It was like I could hang an entire rack of elk ribs in there.
01:05:55.000 But I had to sit there.
01:05:58.000 24-7 for however long I was going to sit there and smoke this.
01:06:05.000 Adjusting smoke levels and heat levels.
01:06:07.000 And then it's like, oh, now I can just put this thing and walk inside with my phone.
01:06:12.000 It's going to text me.
01:06:13.000 Hey, add some more stuff in here.
01:06:16.000 I need more smoke.
01:06:18.000 And you're like, oh my God, this is too easy.
01:06:19.000 Even better, I love when you do a recipe through the app.
01:06:22.000 The app actually navigates the cooking cycle and changes temperature for you.
01:06:26.000 But then at the end of the day, it's really just fire and wood.
01:06:29.000 That's the beautiful thing.
01:06:30.000 There's no chemicals.
01:06:31.000 There's no gas.
01:06:33.000 It's just fire and wood.
01:06:34.000 So it tastes like you cooked it over an open fire.
01:06:37.000 So good.
01:06:38.000 It's fucking awesome.
01:06:39.000 And wild game that way is the best.
01:06:41.000 It's the best.
01:06:42.000 I mean, there's a reason why so many hunters buy Traegers.
01:06:46.000 Pellet grills.
01:06:46.000 Any pellet grill.
01:06:47.000 If you don't have a Traeger, pellet grills are the shit.
01:06:49.000 They're so good.
01:06:52.000 I love how easy it makes life.
01:06:54.000 My outdoor kitchen's next to the pool.
01:06:58.000 So I go throw that stuff in there, and I'm in the pool with the kids.
01:07:01.000 Yep, mine too.
01:07:03.000 I'm not sitting over there wasting my whole entire day, and my kids are pissed.
01:07:06.000 I'm like, you better appreciate this brisket, because I spent 14 hours on it.
01:07:11.000 That never happens.
01:07:12.000 I put that in there, and I feel like...
01:07:13.000 I appreciate old school, like when I watch the videos of Franklin's, Franklin's barbecue in Austin, that dude, he uses old school, you know, offset smokers with wood and throws the wood in with the logs, and obviously the result is fucking insanely delicious.
01:07:27.000 I appreciate it, but I don't have time for that, bro.
01:07:29.000 That's his full-time job.
01:07:30.000 You know, Aaron Franklin, I got it.
01:07:32.000 That's amazing.
01:07:33.000 You keep doing that thing.
01:07:34.000 I'll drive in and buy it when I need it, but I don't have the time to do that.
01:07:37.000 And I love looking at my app.
01:07:39.000 Oh, the meat's at 120 degrees.
01:07:41.000 Get ready to pull it.
01:07:41.000 It's getting close.
01:07:43.000 It sends you a little notification.
01:07:45.000 Yeah, no, I love it.
01:07:46.000 I love it.
01:07:47.000 And I can't get enough wild game.
01:07:49.000 I need to bring more out here.
01:07:51.000 I didn't bring enough out here.
01:07:53.000 I have it in commercial freezers, some of it back home, so I literally might take a trip back home just to fill up some coolers and bring meat back.
01:08:00.000 That's crazy.
01:08:02.000 Shipping it with dry ice.
01:08:05.000 Well, all you have to do is put it in a Yeti.
01:08:07.000 Yeah.
01:08:07.000 If it's frozen, you could send it regular ground mail for five days, and it'll get there fucking frozen.
01:08:14.000 That's cool.
01:08:14.000 It's crazy how well those things keep temperature.
01:08:17.000 I put on either end a little cardboard vertical separator from the meat, and then I pack dry ice in there, and I just leave like an inch along the top if I'm shipping stuff.
01:08:30.000 And then it just keeps it...
01:08:32.000 Super frozen.
01:08:34.000 For how long?
01:08:34.000 How long will it last?
01:08:35.000 The dry ice evaporates at the same weather, regardless of temperature.
01:08:39.000 So inside there, that'll last four, five days?
01:08:42.000 Oh, yeah.
01:08:43.000 Yeah, it could be done.
01:08:45.000 You could ship it.
01:08:46.000 What are you guys doing tomorrow?
01:08:47.000 9-11.
01:08:48.000 Well, the reason why I had you on here today is because this podcast is going to be released on 9-11.
01:08:53.000 I think there's no more appropriate person to have on 9-11 than you.
01:08:57.000 We have a podcast tomorrow that we're doing, a Skype one, with a fellow from the U.K., There are way more appropriate people than me.
01:09:06.000 Like any firefighter that was there at Ground Zero.
01:09:10.000 Have you been to Ground Zero?
01:09:11.000 No.
01:09:12.000 Man, you gotta go.
01:09:13.000 Every American.
01:09:14.000 I think New York City is off my list for life now.
01:09:17.000 That's a good point.
01:09:20.000 But being there and seeing...
01:09:22.000 I'm kidding, by the way.
01:09:23.000 If you live in New York, relax.
01:09:24.000 I'm coming back.
01:09:26.000 They do a ton of comedy there.
01:09:28.000 Yeah, they're still doing comedy there.
01:09:29.000 You have to do it outside, though, in a fucking tent.
01:09:31.000 Yeah, but don't people come by with microphones and scream at you?
01:09:34.000 Yeah, that's comedy too.
01:09:37.000 Man, John Hackleman and I talked this week.
01:09:40.000 He called me.
01:09:41.000 He's like, hey, what would you do if you're at a restaurant and you're essentially ambushed by people screaming at you, telling you to raise your fist.
01:09:53.000 And like, you know...
01:09:55.000 One, I'll not be there because before I go places, I'm making sure that it's safer to go there.
01:10:01.000 You know, I'm not going to be sitting at a restaurant where a protest is going to be walking through.
01:10:06.000 And I know they're targeting ones specifically to try to catch people and get the I gotcha moment.
01:10:12.000 Two is situational awareness.
01:10:14.000 I'm sitting here and I see some people congregating across the street.
01:10:17.000 I'm going to wait and see what happens.
01:10:19.000 Now there's a lot of people.
01:10:20.000 I see cameras.
01:10:21.000 I see megaphones.
01:10:22.000 I'm going to still sit here and wait and see what happens.
01:10:24.000 I see five, six people wearing black hoodies, masks, little red fists painted on their shoulders.
01:10:31.000 I'm like, dinner's done.
01:10:32.000 We're out of here.
01:10:33.000 We pack up and go.
01:10:36.000 Yes, New York, crazy, crazy place.
01:10:39.000 But that memorial is...
01:10:41.000 I don't know what it is about that place.
01:10:43.000 Like, you can feel...
01:10:44.000 I don't know.
01:10:47.000 Souls.
01:10:47.000 Like, you can feel the pain there.
01:10:50.000 I think that's real.
01:10:51.000 I think you can.
01:10:53.000 My dad went to Gettysburg, and my stepfather, and he was there, and he said, I've never believed that there's a place where you could feel sadness.
01:11:00.000 He goes, but you just feel the people that died there.
01:11:04.000 Yeah.
01:11:04.000 You feel it.
01:11:05.000 I mean, palatable, describable heaviness.
01:11:10.000 Yeah.
01:11:10.000 And this is not, like, I'm not a guy that, you know...
01:11:14.000 Crystals.
01:11:15.000 No.
01:11:15.000 But, like, you can...
01:11:16.000 Feel it.
01:11:18.000 And, like, never forget, right, how quickly we forgot.
01:11:21.000 Yeah.
01:11:22.000 Well, they were trying to cancel the fucking, putting up the lights.
01:11:26.000 Yeah.
01:11:26.000 Yeah, like, why?
01:11:28.000 Why would you do that?
01:11:29.000 Have you seen the Falling Man documentary?
01:11:31.000 No.
01:11:31.000 So, there's a photograph called The Falling Man that it is, you can just Google Falling Man and you see this guy, and this, anytime I need to know the reason why I'm going all over these places doing,
01:11:47.000 that's it.
01:11:48.000 Oh, it's that dude.
01:11:49.000 I can't look at it because it gets me.
01:11:54.000 Let's talk about this dude for a second.
01:11:56.000 He's sitting, standing, kneeling, laying on the floor of a shattered window and he's looking back inside and he's making a decision whether he's going to burn alive or he's going to jump to his death.
01:12:10.000 Him and hundreds of others.
01:12:11.000 They're sitting there, Americans, looking inside of a building, being like, okay, do I burn alive or do I jump to my death?
01:12:21.000 And that video and that picture is so unnerving because he consciously is making the choice to die the whole entire way down.
01:12:30.000 You can see he's staying in like, I'm going to face plant into the asphalt and all the way into the ground.
01:12:37.000 He's making that choice because he didn't want to burn alive.
01:12:40.000 So every time I'm sucking or suffering or frustrated, if I have to go do another mission, of course I want to do all these sexy things all over the planet, but sometimes I don't get to pick.
01:12:51.000 Usually, that's the way the military works, don't get to pick.
01:12:54.000 And I think about that guy, and I think about the 3,000 Americans that were standing there, and be faced with that choice of, am I going to burn alive, or am I going to jump to my death?
01:13:07.000 Because insurgents...
01:13:09.000 Wanting to, you know, radical fundamentals, wanting to destroy the idea that we stood for, capitalism, American freedom.
01:13:20.000 You know, with $500,000 and box cutters, these untrained assholes were able to bring down the largest superpower on the planet.
01:13:29.000 Like, that's what asymmetrical warfare is.
01:13:31.000 Like, asymmetrical is something that's not aligned with everything else.
01:13:34.000 And warfare in these...
01:13:37.000 Under asymmetrical warfare is kind of the haves-not fighting the haves and doing it in ways that nobody's ever done it before.
01:13:43.000 It was genius and horrible that this small group of untrained guys with box cutters did...
01:13:50.000 How many trillions of dollars have we spent in this war?
01:13:54.000 $17 billion in damage just in that one day.
01:13:58.000 3,000 American lives.
01:13:59.000 More lives since Pearl Harbor.
01:14:02.000 We went to war with the Japanese and dropped two atomic bombs for that.
01:14:07.000 We're so short with what we remember.
01:14:13.000 This current society, this generation, this fast influx of information.
01:14:17.000 I want to never forget that man's face.
01:14:22.000 Do we know who he was?
01:14:24.000 Yeah.
01:14:27.000 They think.
01:14:28.000 They're like 90%.
01:14:30.000 There was another couple that did it as well.
01:14:33.000 There was like a few dozen.
01:14:39.000 Yeah, I got the black girl on the right.
01:14:40.000 Or maybe she's white and covered in soot.
01:14:42.000 But she's literally looking down, trying to get a breath, a fresh breath of air before she either suffocates or burns alive.
01:14:54.000 And then she jumps.
01:15:01.000 Never again.
01:15:02.000 We say never forget.
01:15:03.000 Never again.
01:15:04.000 How do we stop that?
01:15:06.000 And that is the constant, unrelenting fight against these fanatic ideas.
01:15:13.000 And it's not just...
01:15:15.000 There are countless types of revolutionaries and insurgents.
01:15:21.000 Ones that do it for religious reasons.
01:15:23.000 Ones to push out foreign powers.
01:15:25.000 Ones because of the...
01:15:30.000 Hutu and Tutsi, like that's just ethnic.
01:15:33.000 But they're all the same kind of formula of, we're not happy about something, so we're going to do something horrific to try and change asymmetrical warfare, to try to change the shape of something.
01:15:45.000 And that fight against these extreme outliers has to be one that we're committed to all the time.
01:15:54.000 Otherwise that will happen again.
01:15:57.000 It might be a train.
01:15:58.000 It might be a bus.
01:15:59.000 It might be a dirty bomb.
01:16:02.000 Thank God.
01:16:04.000 Boston, probably the next worst thing that's happened since then, which was a couple of idiots with pressure cookers because we have been so aggressive, not just here, but also abroad, ensuring that this doesn't happen.
01:16:18.000 It's weird.
01:16:18.000 Right now, you know, I think the last time I was here, I was telling you how bad it is in special operations and special forces, specifically in recruiting.
01:16:24.000 Like, we are hurting for people and the right people.
01:16:28.000 And all the people that have been coming in, they came in to fight this war.
01:16:32.000 But now we have kids in basic training that weren't alive when 9-11 happened.
01:16:37.000 I volunteered on 9-11 because of this.
01:16:39.000 But now we have...
01:16:41.000 I don't even know how many...
01:16:43.000 I'm calling them kids.
01:16:44.000 They're heroes.
01:16:45.000 They're selflessly serving their country.
01:16:49.000 But we're leaving Iraq.
01:16:50.000 We're leaving Afghanistan.
01:16:51.000 I had a deployment next year that looks like it's going to get kanked because Trump is pulling back our forces from these places for us to do other things.
01:17:00.000 And those other things are...
01:17:02.000 It's counterinsurgency.
01:17:04.000 It's foreign internal defense.
01:17:05.000 It's security forces assistance.
01:17:07.000 It's joint combined exercises for training.
01:17:09.000 And while I want to go put on my body armor and have a beard and go look sexy and go do all these things, those are the important jobs that we have to do in the coming years to make sure this doesn't happen again.
01:17:20.000 If we're in Afghanistan in 1999 with a president trying to help the Afghani government have a constitutional republic or a government in a way, would have this happened?
01:17:34.000 Maybe not.
01:17:35.000 I don't know, but probably not.
01:17:38.000 It's the same reason why we're all over Africa.
01:17:40.000 It's the same reason why we still have presence in NATO. It's the same reason that we're present in the Philippines.
01:17:46.000 It's trying to fight these radical ideas so that security and stability provides an area for people to live freely.
01:17:54.000 However they want to.
01:17:55.000 We're not telling anybody how to live, right?
01:17:57.000 Philippines, Africa, Niger, Nigeria, Mortania, Burkina Faso, you guys do your things.
01:18:03.000 Whatever that thing is, we're here to help you do it.
01:18:06.000 But it's going to be done safely to provide stability and security.
01:18:11.000 I never want to see that again.
01:18:13.000 Do you want to see an American?
01:18:15.000 I'm not going to see my kids.
01:18:17.000 But I want to burn alive, so I'm going to jump.
01:18:22.000 Fuck you and your extremist ideas, I'm going to find you.
01:18:24.000 And we're going to fight you until the day we die.
01:18:26.000 But we have to be vigilant about it.
01:18:28.000 When you hear people talk about defunding the military, when you hear people talk about pulling troops out of other countries in a non-interventionalist foreign policy, but you know what you know, and you know why this stuff has to be done,
01:18:45.000 how do you react to that?
01:18:48.000 It's ignorance.
01:18:49.000 I mean, first it's pity.
01:18:51.000 It's like, I feel bad for them.
01:18:53.000 You know, I'll go to a country in West Africa and I'll go back two years later and I will see the school that I helped build or was providing training for the people that are going to be protecting it.
01:19:05.000 Um, and that school is still functioning and they've had two years of people graduating from that school.
01:19:11.000 And now I go to what was like this podunk village and people are sitting there reading a book.
01:19:16.000 I'm like, you can read like, yeah, I learned how to read last year.
01:19:21.000 This is so cool.
01:19:22.000 You know, like, you have fresh water?
01:19:24.000 How did you have fresh water?
01:19:25.000 Like, ah, well, we learned how to read and then we started reading these books and like, we actually do natural filtration through the soil and we're also doing this tiered irrigation.
01:19:36.000 Like, check out our crops.
01:19:38.000 Holy crap, you have crops here.
01:19:40.000 You didn't have crops here two years ago.
01:19:42.000 In two years, I'm seeing this transformation of people.
01:19:47.000 So every single radical group from ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Taliban, FARC, to Antifa.
01:19:59.000 They go and target the poor and the uneducated.
01:20:03.000 That's who they recruit from.
01:20:05.000 They take these ideas, they plant seeds, and they plant seeds through, like, you're super poor, your daughter's going to get married, I'm going to come in as the bad guy, as the ISIS member, and I'm going to pay for your daughter's wedding.
01:20:22.000 And the endowment.
01:20:23.000 I'm going to do it all.
01:20:24.000 And now you're indebted to me.
01:20:26.000 And your wife and her new husband are kind of appreciative to me.
01:20:30.000 But now I have a hook in you.
01:20:32.000 And it doesn't take a lot of money to pay for a wedding in Somalia.
01:20:41.000 So there's the population, there's the poverty, and there's the opportunity for them to plant these seeds of fanatic ridiculousness.
01:20:51.000 And that's what they do.
01:20:52.000 So when I see somebody that's like, hey, we need to pull everybody back.
01:20:57.000 Yeah, and...
01:20:59.000 In wars, Iraq and Afghanistan, we have created stability there.
01:21:04.000 And I don't know...
01:21:06.000 Well, we can never govern Afghanistan.
01:21:09.000 Like, they can't be.
01:21:10.000 That's just the way that the people are.
01:21:11.000 And it's kind of cool, and it's kind of also frightening.
01:21:15.000 Because they're so nomadic...
01:21:16.000 Yeah.
01:21:17.000 I mean, it's been tribal forever.
01:21:19.000 I mean, you go back to Genghis Khan, you know, and, like, they've been insurgents from Khan to the British, to the Russians, to then the British again, to the French, to then the Russians again, then to us.
01:21:33.000 Like, they've just been doing this thing for as long as they've been in existence.
01:21:37.000 So...
01:21:40.000 Just leave them be, right?
01:21:42.000 We can still be there with the government, like hand in hand, advise and assist and accompany, like how to do things, but we don't physically need to be there fighting wars all the time.
01:21:52.000 And that's kind of what we're doing, right?
01:21:53.000 We're phasing back our physical direct action presence.
01:21:59.000 But it's somebody saying that we need to pull everybody in.
01:22:02.000 We only need to protect our own borders and let's just be present here.
01:22:04.000 It's super naive and it's super ignorant because this is the result of us not being outside of our own borders.
01:22:13.000 The idea of policing the world doesn't sit well with people, though.
01:22:16.000 We don't have to police the world.
01:22:18.000 That's not what we're doing.
01:22:20.000 So security forces assistance or joint combined exercise for training or for internal defense, I am not walking around being like, hey, you insurgent, you get back in that building.
01:22:31.000 I'm by, with, and through working with the local government, by their side, with them, with their mission and their intent, through their own purpose and ideas.
01:22:43.000 I understand that.
01:22:44.000 But how do you get that message to people that do think that it's policing the world, that do think that we should mind our own business and take that Ron Paul approach and pull the troops back and take care of our own and not worry about other countries?
01:22:58.000 I mean, I wish I could take people with me to show them.
01:23:04.000 Have you ever listened to Ron Paul talk about these things?
01:23:06.000 Yeah.
01:23:06.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:23:07.000 Yeah.
01:23:10.000 I think the easy answer, and I never like easy answers, is that 9-11 hasn't happened again, even though we know that they have tried 20,000, 30,000 times.
01:23:22.000 They've tried to do this again in every single way.
01:23:26.000 And whether it's a terrorist training camp, where we got him, whether it's the new ISIS leader, whether it's the new Al-Qaeda leader, whether it's the next Iranian, you know, secret service that's funding groups and terrorist organizations all over the planet.
01:23:41.000 We got him, you know, like, we have been constant and vigilant in finding them and stopping them.
01:23:49.000 And we have to.
01:23:50.000 Otherwise, like, how has this not happened again?
01:23:53.000 Are there fewer extremists?
01:23:55.000 No.
01:23:57.000 We have stopped them through our actions.
01:24:01.000 If we did not do anything, this would happen again.
01:24:03.000 How much of an effect does it have in who's president?
01:24:07.000 Oh man, a lot.
01:24:09.000 What was the difference between Obama and Trump?
01:24:14.000 I'll just use ammo as an example.
01:24:18.000 Again, not an easy...
01:24:19.000 I'm just trying to draw parallels.
01:24:24.000 That people can wrap their heads around.
01:24:27.000 If I'm going to forecast how much ammo I need for training, I'm going to find out what my mission is.
01:24:32.000 I'm going to set up kind of like the training calendar of all the events that we're going to do.
01:24:37.000 Flat ranges, CQB, long distance sniper stuff, mounted training.
01:24:42.000 And then that forecasts how much ammo I need.
01:24:45.000 And then I go and I ask for that ammo.
01:24:47.000 And, um, I would get like, I'd be allowed to ask for about a third then during Obama of what I was allowed to ask for with Bush or now Trump.
01:25:00.000 A third?
01:25:01.000 A third.
01:25:02.000 Wow.
01:25:03.000 Yeah.
01:25:04.000 Was there a rationalization for that?
01:25:06.000 It's just like...
01:25:08.000 Of funding.
01:25:09.000 Like us being able to buy cool drones or new guns or different optics.
01:25:15.000 Like the funding is there or the funding is not there.
01:25:17.000 And if, like, while the big Department of Defense military machine may not be the most efficient thing, when it goes down to the individual, like, it comes down to me being like, I can have this gun or I can't.
01:25:33.000 I can have this optic or I can't.
01:25:35.000 I have to use this old rifle that's been shot by 20 soldiers before me or I get a new one.
01:25:42.000 And it's black and white.
01:25:45.000 It's like dollars and cents.
01:25:46.000 Like I have $9 under this guy or I have $3 under this guy.
01:25:51.000 So when you left fighting and went back into the military, was one of the reasons you did that because Trump was in office and then there was more funding?
01:26:00.000 Yes.
01:26:04.000 I don't like losing at anything.
01:26:06.000 And going into a fight that you are not prepared to win is a pretty bad idea.
01:26:14.000 And knowing...
01:26:17.000 I'll use Kelvin Destelam as an example.
01:26:21.000 I was supposed to fight Rashad Evans at New Year's Eve or at Madison Square Gardens in November.
01:26:28.000 And fight fell through, medical things.
01:26:30.000 And I mean, by the time I get to the Kelvin Gesslum, I've cut weight two different times now.
01:26:36.000 I've ballooned up to 220, back down to 185, 220. Now I'm cutting weight back to 185 again.
01:26:42.000 And now a five-month fight camp.
01:26:44.000 I'm like walking out to the octagon tired.
01:26:47.000 Like, I just warmed up in the back with Brandon and Greg.
01:26:50.000 And I'm like, Overtrained.
01:26:54.000 Yeah.
01:26:54.000 But it's a bad feeling to walk into a fight not in a position to fight.
01:27:01.000 And when Trump was elected, we were 100% still at war.
01:27:06.000 ISIS was thriving.
01:27:08.000 All the places I went and fought in Afghanistan were now controlled by ISIS. Do you know how bad that sucks to look at all the places where I remember friends getting hurt or, you know, like Jaco, the places that he went, those were occupied by ISIS, physically occupied,
01:27:24.000 and he lost countless friends.
01:27:25.000 Fallujah, Ramadi, Sadr City, all of those places, all of the Syrian border, controlled by ISIS, land that we controlled and fought and then lost.
01:27:33.000 And then thinking about like, I have to go back in here and do this again, but I have the third, a third amount of the resources to do it.
01:27:40.000 That sucks.
01:27:43.000 Or knowing that, okay, now I'm gonna have a guy that is gonna back me with a pocketbook.
01:27:50.000 To go and win.
01:27:52.000 That was the choice for me.
01:27:54.000 I just want to win.
01:27:57.000 I don't want 9-11 to happen again.
01:27:59.000 And that's hard to stop when you're creating vacuums for evil to fill.
01:28:06.000 And how much of an impact has it had having Trump as president and making those decisions to fund the military better in terms of success overseas?
01:28:18.000 I mean, we smashed ISIS in a year.
01:28:21.000 One year.
01:28:22.000 They rose for three and started gaining ground, the ISIS caliphate, into all of the Middle East.
01:28:30.000 Like, they were popping up.
01:28:31.000 We had people swearing allegiance to ISIS in Africa.
01:28:34.000 You know, like, the Boko Haram was like, yeah, we're ISIS now.
01:28:37.000 Like, what?
01:28:38.000 Are you kidding me?
01:28:39.000 And that cancerous plague spreading all over the world because we weren't aggressively depended.
01:28:46.000 With vigilance fighting those ideas.
01:28:49.000 Then, you know, November roll around 2016, and it was by at February of 2017, it was like, go.
01:29:00.000 And it was off.
01:29:02.000 We're literally smashing them at every single opportunity, dropping the biggest bomb in Taliban, the Moab.
01:29:12.000 That's pretty cool.
01:29:14.000 I just dropped the bomb next to the size of the nuclear weapon.
01:29:19.000 That's awesome.
01:29:21.000 And this is all because of Trump getting into office and funding the military.
01:29:39.000 Look to that idea, that document, as to how they're going to operate.
01:29:44.000 And then you have the appointees to those positions, like Mattis, for example, where then he interprets what the intent is from the executive plan, and then for Department of Defense, how are we going to fulfill that?
01:29:58.000 And then that goes to all of the regional commanders and to all the special operations units.
01:30:02.000 And then missions are built off of fulfilling these ideas.
01:30:06.000 And those ideas were smash ISIS, remove radical terrorists off the planet, and provide security and stability with all of our partners.
01:30:17.000 And then grow who our partners are.
01:30:20.000 So like in Africa, if you went back five, six years, you would have Three or four, five countries that were part of this group of regional Africans wanting to be free.
01:30:39.000 They don't want Boko Haram or Al-Qaeda or ISIS coming in and telling them what to do.
01:30:44.000 They want a free constitutional government.
01:30:47.000 So we started helping.
01:30:48.000 Now there's like a dozen of those countries that are part of this group.
01:30:53.000 And they're all doing the work.
01:30:57.000 And it's amazing.
01:30:59.000 It's amazing to see what happens in just a couple of years in any one of these countries when they start doing the work.
01:31:06.000 It's no different than a person, right?
01:31:08.000 But it's a group of people.
01:31:09.000 And they're all believing in these ideas of freedom and Of education, of prosperity, and we're just creating an opportunity for those to be realized.
01:31:18.000 This is not a message that gets out enough.
01:31:22.000 What you're saying right now about the importance of funding the military, about all the positive aspects of these operations, and about how squashing these fundamentalist terrorist groups can lead to democracy in all these places and can lead to flourishing schools and growth of these individual areas.
01:31:42.000 Yeah.
01:31:42.000 This is not a message that gets out enough.
01:31:44.000 No, I mean, that's by design a little bit.
01:31:47.000 I think...
01:31:50.000 Half the country doesn't want the other half to look good.
01:31:54.000 And we definitely know that all of our enemies, foreign enemies, are 100% participating right now as we move towards November in delegitimizing what this country stands for in the process of our elections and what we're allowed to do successfully overseas.
01:32:12.000 From Russia to China, they are In the business of hurting America.
01:32:18.000 And they're not only here, like making our election seem unfair or broken, but also abroad, where they're trying to...
01:32:32.000 Every place that we are, they are as well.
01:32:35.000 And they're trying to do the opposite of what we...
01:32:38.000 They want radicals.
01:32:40.000 They want broken.
01:32:41.000 They want...
01:32:44.000 Because every little bit that they do is more that we have to fight against.
01:32:48.000 When I said that an insurgency is cheap and a counterinsurgency is expensive, but we're fighting counterinsurgency over the planet.
01:32:57.000 As we move towards the elections, with Portland firing off, Seattle firing off, I think it would be very naive for us not to think that China and Russia are negatively participating.
01:33:10.000 If you look at 2016 with Hillary and Trump, were the Russians involved?
01:33:16.000 Yeah.
01:33:17.000 Yeah.
01:33:18.000 Like, for sure, they're stoking the fires of hate on both sides.
01:33:23.000 And it didn't matter who won.
01:33:25.000 Like, they didn't want Trump to win.
01:33:26.000 They didn't need Hillary to win.
01:33:28.000 They just need the process to look broken.
01:33:30.000 They just have to make us look bad.
01:33:32.000 It doesn't matter to them who wins.
01:33:33.000 And coming to Biden and Trump, it doesn't matter who wins.
01:33:38.000 It matters that they delegitimize the process of a fair election in a constitutional republic.
01:33:45.000 It's really easy to do.
01:33:49.000 I'm going to use...
01:33:50.000 All right, you have a birthday coming up.
01:33:52.000 You are going to turn 60. Happy birthday.
01:33:55.000 You look great for being 60, Joe.
01:33:57.000 And you're going to have a party to celebrate this.
01:34:02.000 And...
01:34:03.000 You're going to have all your friends over.
01:34:05.000 You got some gay guys.
01:34:06.000 You got some black guys.
01:34:07.000 You got some Mexicans.
01:34:08.000 You're a pretty balanced person with lots of different friends from lots of different cultures.
01:34:14.000 But they're all going to be in the same room.
01:34:16.000 You got this big, huge melting pot of your party.
01:34:19.000 Cool.
01:34:19.000 It's going to be a rad party.
01:34:20.000 You got a bar.
01:34:22.000 You kind of rented this cool place.
01:34:23.000 It has a few bathrooms.
01:34:25.000 It has this nice balcony.
01:34:27.000 This beautiful statue.
01:34:30.000 And there's this ice sculpture that has some great drinks on it and the punches underneath it.
01:34:39.000 I don't want you to have a good party.
01:34:40.000 I'm your insurgent.
01:34:42.000 I don't like you.
01:34:43.000 I don't like your ideas.
01:34:44.000 I don't like this idea of everybody being able to co-mingle.
01:34:47.000 So I'm gonna go and I'm gonna ruin your party.
01:34:49.000 I had a friend of a friend that kind of got me in.
01:34:52.000 So how hard is it for me to ruin your party?
01:34:56.000 Super easy, right?
01:34:57.000 I could go piss in the punch.
01:34:59.000 I could go find that gay guy, use some homophobic slurs.
01:35:02.000 I could find that Muslim over in the corner and tell him that the PLO is the dumbest group on the planet, that Israel should own everything, and that Muslims are ignorant, multi-wife assholes.
01:35:15.000 All of it's untrue.
01:35:16.000 It doesn't matter if I believe it.
01:35:17.000 I'm just there to piss people off.
01:35:19.000 I'm going to go to those two bathrooms.
01:35:21.000 I'm going to go give you an upper-decker.
01:35:22.000 I'm going to go poop in the top of two of those toilets.
01:35:24.000 That's disgusting, right?
01:35:25.000 It stinks.
01:35:27.000 Maybe I'm going to go chip away at that little beautiful sculpture.
01:35:31.000 So when somebody goes to scoop their first punch, the whole thing topples over.
01:35:36.000 So easy and so cheap for me to ruin everything about your day.
01:35:41.000 That's what they're trying to do in an election, right?
01:35:43.000 They're just trying to erode the process and ruin it, and it costs them nothing to go and piss off every single group.
01:35:49.000 The far right, the far left, they just want people angry.
01:35:53.000 And the process is so simple.
01:35:54.000 Now with Twitter and Instagram and Facebook, they set up these massive bots that can go and like things and create...
01:36:03.000 And they play this long game where they just start planting seeds of distrust and...
01:36:10.000 They're spending money to make Antifa mad.
01:36:14.000 They're spending money to make the Boogaloo bros look mad.
01:36:18.000 And they want everybody to be mad at everybody moving into November.
01:36:22.000 So then the process, the election, is jacked.
01:36:25.000 But you're party, so you do have an option.
01:36:29.000 This is the catch-22 of how difficult it is as a leader to stop it.
01:36:34.000 I could hire security guards.
01:36:36.000 I could put a guard at the front.
01:36:37.000 I could put a guard by the punch.
01:36:38.000 I could put a guard in every bathroom.
01:36:41.000 I could check all the IDs of everybody coming in.
01:36:43.000 I could have an exact list of people that are allowed to attend.
01:36:49.000 But now I just ruined you.
01:36:52.000 Just ruined your own party.
01:36:53.000 Because you're trying to provide security and stability.
01:36:55.000 And you put all of that in there.
01:36:57.000 But now your party sucks.
01:36:59.000 Right?
01:37:00.000 Like, I can't get a drink.
01:37:00.000 I'm only allowed one drink.
01:37:02.000 And nobody's allowed to talk to each other.
01:37:04.000 And nobody's allowed to hang out.
01:37:05.000 Everybody has to be segregated and separate.
01:37:06.000 So you ruined your own party.
01:37:08.000 So in either case, you give me freedom of movement, the American way, and I'm going to ruin it.
01:37:13.000 Or you try to come in too heavy-handed, and then you look like a dictator.
01:37:19.000 You'll look like Hitler himself.
01:37:22.000 So how do you have a good party?
01:37:24.000 It's hard.
01:37:25.000 That's where we're at right now.
01:37:28.000 They're literally doing that with every way they can.
01:37:33.000 It's frightening.
01:37:34.000 So this idea that Russia just wants Trump to win, it's horseshit.
01:37:37.000 Yeah, they don't care.
01:37:38.000 They just need the process to look bad.
01:37:41.000 So we have a constitutional republic, right?
01:37:45.000 What do they have?
01:37:47.000 A dictatorship, basically.
01:37:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:37:50.000 So they don't need...
01:37:53.000 A friend.
01:37:54.000 They just need the process, the idea of America to look broken.
01:38:00.000 That's success to them.
01:38:02.000 I can say this with such absolute conviction because this is what we do.
01:38:09.000 This is what we do.
01:38:10.000 This is what we go overseas and do.
01:38:12.000 We have specific groups that are doing this exact thing to make them look bad, but they're doing it to us and because America is so free, it's so much easier to do here.
01:38:23.000 Like, how hard is it for me to go to Russia or land in China and go and start planting seeds of discontent?
01:38:31.000 It's pretty freaking hard, right?
01:38:33.000 Like, here it's not.
01:38:34.000 Hmm.
01:38:36.000 So hard to fight this.
01:38:39.000 So because of the fact that we have freedom, because of the fact that we have these democratic elections, because of the fact that we have the ability to express ourselves and communicate freely online, which they don't really have in either one of those countries.
01:38:52.000 I mean, there's severe repercussions for criticizing the government in China.
01:38:56.000 Severe.
01:38:56.000 And same thing about Russia.
01:38:58.000 So because we have this freedom over here, they participate.
01:39:02.000 Yeah.
01:39:02.000 And the way they participate is through the Internet Research Agency.
01:39:05.000 I had a woman on named Renee DiResta who extensively researched this and was talking about how spectacular this operation was and what they would do.
01:39:15.000 They literally organized a pro-Texas meetup across the street from a pro-Muslim meetup.
01:39:21.000 And they set it up.
01:39:22.000 They set it up that way.
01:39:23.000 Yeah.
01:39:23.000 Yeah, a friend who's very well-versed online found this Antifa rage, this thing against white rage online, and they traced the IP back to Russia.
01:39:37.000 And they're like, this is wild.
01:39:39.000 This is wild shit.
01:39:39.000 It's not wild, though.
01:39:41.000 It is.
01:39:41.000 Because we did.
01:39:42.000 America, wake up and open your eyes to this is happening where how naive is it for us not to think that our enemies are trying to negatively affect what is happening here.
01:39:56.000 Right.
01:39:57.000 Because this is the place where you can negatively affect it in the way that they can do it here, which is different than the way you could affect anything in Russia or China.
01:40:05.000 Because of the fact that we have this freedom of expression.
01:40:07.000 Yeah.
01:40:08.000 They don't need somebody to win.
01:40:09.000 They just have to make us look bad.
01:40:11.000 This is where our media has failed us.
01:40:13.000 Because our media takes this horrible partisan position, whether you're on the left or the right, they only want to look at the things that show that the left or the right, depending on who your enemy is, is fucking up and how China or Russia, whoever you deem the player that's the key player,
01:40:30.000 is influencing our elections because they want this person to win.
01:40:34.000 So if you love America, you will vote against Trump because the Russians want Trump to win.
01:40:39.000 This is the fucking narrative that keeps getting spit out at us.
01:40:42.000 And it doesn't sit well with me.
01:40:45.000 And I'm glad you're explaining it the way you're explaining it.
01:40:47.000 Because partisanship and this inability to look at things objectively is really fucking us up.
01:40:53.000 It's really bad.
01:40:54.000 And these motherfuckers that are running the media, there's a reason why people aren't paying attention anymore.
01:41:00.000 There's a reason.
01:41:01.000 There's a reason why those sources are not trusted.
01:41:05.000 Divided is perfectly divided.
01:41:09.000 If I were in China or in Moscow, I was like, exactly what kind of environment do I want so I could negatively affect an election?
01:41:22.000 You're looking at it, right?
01:41:23.000 I'm going to stoke the fires of the 1% on the right.
01:41:26.000 I'm going to stoke the fires of the 1% on the left.
01:41:28.000 And I'm just going to, I want them so angry.
01:41:31.000 I've created all these different accounts that have thousands of followers.
01:41:34.000 They're fake.
01:41:35.000 The followers are bots.
01:41:36.000 And the people that are saying that those are real people that speak perfect English, and they are in there, in those groups, just planting hate.
01:41:44.000 So people just get madder and madder and madder.
01:41:48.000 We look at Black Lives Matter.
01:41:50.000 I don't think there's a single American that's going to be like, no, black lives don't matter.
01:41:54.000 There might be one, but screw that racist, right?
01:41:57.000 So few and so irrelevant.
01:41:59.000 It's such a minor position.
01:42:01.000 Yeah.
01:42:02.000 Is there solidarity?
01:42:03.000 For sure.
01:42:05.000 Are the solutions the things being talked about?
01:42:09.000 Not really.
01:42:10.000 Not really.
01:42:10.000 Why is that?
01:42:11.000 Like, I'm spending probably half of my waking hours right now developing a way to be able to train police officers and get something into every single police department so they can, like, you know, unconscious bias, training about how to de-escalate,
01:42:28.000 understanding different cultures, right?
01:42:29.000 If I'm walking down the street and I see a Sikh and I'm like, oh, is this a Muslim?
01:42:32.000 I have to go here and fight this guy.
01:42:34.000 The guy comes in a little bit close because that's part of their culture and it's also part of their culture that they have a knife.
01:42:39.000 But I don't know any of this and I just misunderstood who this person is and his religion and his ethnicity.
01:42:45.000 And now I have this super bad interaction because this guy stepped into my space and all that could have been trained out.
01:42:51.000 I could have taught somebody those things.
01:42:54.000 And with everybody being so stoked on getting angry and finding out the problems, nobody's talking about solutions.
01:43:03.000 Right?
01:43:04.000 If there's a problem in law enforcement, and there is, how do we fix that?
01:43:09.000 Can we talk about that instead of trying to find the next poor Uber driver that gets lost and immediately calling him a racist?
01:43:16.000 Or finding the next Antifa guy that is really just poor, lost his job, has been living in his mom's basement, and just needs something to do?
01:43:28.000 Let's give them something to do, and let's make a positive impact.
01:43:31.000 That is a real part of what's going on, too.
01:43:34.000 Yeah.
01:43:34.000 It's a real part of what's going on is people don't feel like they belong.
01:43:37.000 And when there's a movement going on, if you jump on that...
01:43:40.000 You see any of that guy who shot the pro-Trump supporter in Portland?
01:43:46.000 Yeah.
01:43:46.000 And you see the interview with him afterwards?
01:43:48.000 Yeah.
01:43:48.000 The interview is classic.
01:43:49.000 You listen to him interviewed him.
01:43:50.000 He's a lost guy.
01:43:51.000 A lost, weird, social outcast who found a home.
01:43:55.000 And then is soaking up all this attention that he got for shooting a Trump supporter that he's claiming was out there trying to kill a friend of his of color.
01:44:04.000 Yeah.
01:44:04.000 Like, this is his description of it.
01:44:05.000 And then the police show up.
01:44:06.000 Yeah.
01:44:06.000 And he tries to shoot them.
01:44:07.000 Yeah.
01:44:08.000 He's just a lost person.
01:44:09.000 Yeah.
01:44:09.000 A violent lost person.
01:44:10.000 Yeah.
01:44:11.000 I mean, as somebody with no purpose...
01:44:12.000 Right.
01:44:13.000 ...is a dangerous thing.
01:44:14.000 Especially one who doesn't understand the consequences of their actions.
01:44:18.000 Yeah.
01:44:20.000 And...
01:44:23.000 My brother's a sheriff, Nick, in California.
01:44:29.000 And the things that he has to do in a day, you know, the number of people and interactions that he has to have, that he has had in his career.
01:44:38.000 And every single time, is it going to be this Antifa guy that just shot somebody in Monterey?
01:44:45.000 There was actually some Antifa guys that had thrown some pipe bombs in Oakland.
01:44:49.000 Yeah.
01:44:49.000 And then drove into northern Monterey County and set off some more pipe bombs, shot a couple more cops.
01:44:57.000 And this kind of got buried in the news.
01:44:59.000 But my brother was one of the guys that showed up there.
01:45:01.000 And they have to deal with that, like a radical domestic terrorist.
01:45:05.000 And they also have to show up when a husband and wife are having a dispute.
01:45:09.000 They have to walk up to every single car as if that person is going to kill them.
01:45:14.000 That person might be a DUI. That person may not want to, if they have broken the law, not want to get out of the car.
01:45:21.000 Are you going to make them get out of the car?
01:45:22.000 It is the hardest job in the world.
01:45:24.000 They're under-trained.
01:45:24.000 They're underfunded.
01:45:26.000 But they are the necessary security for us to prosper and be successful.
01:45:32.000 And my brother is the most selfless, incredible person, as most of the guys.
01:45:36.000 And I train with a ton of law enforcement.
01:45:39.000 And they're not perfect.
01:45:40.000 Nobody is.
01:45:42.000 No human is.
01:45:43.000 But you can't train perfection, but you can train bad out of people.
01:45:48.000 And that's one of the many reasons why I think training is so paramount.
01:45:53.000 And, you know, to the election and people are always focusing on the bad, like, you gotta find solutions.
01:46:01.000 If you're mad and you believe in Black Lives Matter, what is your solution?
01:46:06.000 If you think that cops have a problem, like, I've found a solution.
01:46:13.000 We're creating this virtual reality headset that we're going to be able to put into every single police department where they'll be able to listen to and interact with different ethnicities that are consistent with the populations that they work in.
01:46:28.000 You know, like be able to identify unconscious bias.
01:46:31.000 Like I'm pretty aware of the biases that I have because I look through the lens of my life through pretty jaded glasses, right?
01:46:40.000 The things that I've gone and done and seen.
01:46:43.000 But there's no way that I'm aware of all of them.
01:46:46.000 But there are ways that you can train that out of people and that you can show them and explore.
01:46:52.000 We have some of the best, brightest minds, PhDs, law enforcement trainers that are designing these things that we can put.
01:47:00.000 Specular Theory is my partner in this.
01:47:02.000 We can take these things and send them to every single law enforcement department and train people about how to interact.
01:47:09.000 And when you're a hammer and everything looks like a nail, and you're going to all of these different interactions with like, is this guy going to shoot me?
01:47:17.000 It's hard.
01:47:18.000 Because he might.
01:47:20.000 But he also might just be having a bad day and you need to know how to de-escalate that.
01:47:25.000 But you also have to be able to enforce the law.
01:47:28.000 And that's one of the hardest things right now.
01:47:30.000 And I know the Chinese and the Russians are loving the fact that we are questioning, do laws really matter?
01:47:38.000 Can we just let things go?
01:47:40.000 Can we just tear down statues?
01:47:42.000 Can you just walk out into the middle of an interstate and stop traffic because you believe you have the right to do that?
01:47:50.000 No, you can't do that.
01:47:53.000 Rule of law is there not just for you, but it's for us.
01:47:58.000 If you believe in the collective, then you have to believe that those laws are there for our good.
01:48:03.000 And we have to make sure we elect good guys that put in good laws.
01:48:07.000 But, like, if you just don't believe that it matters, and you can go and you can riot and you can loot, and it's just property.
01:48:13.000 Like, you can burn that building down.
01:48:15.000 It's just property.
01:48:15.000 Lives are more important than property.
01:48:18.000 But there are people's lives that are attached to that property.
01:48:21.000 It might be how they make their money.
01:48:24.000 It might be where they live.
01:48:25.000 Like, watching Antifa throw those Molotov cocktails while there were kids sleeping upstairs in the apartment building.
01:48:30.000 Like, shame on you.
01:48:32.000 You're being played right now.
01:48:33.000 Not only that, but what you said earlier, if you do destroy that property, understand the lives that are going to be affected because that community is going to be entrenched in poverty.
01:48:43.000 For generations.
01:48:46.000 Yeah.
01:48:48.000 You're not doing good.
01:48:49.000 You're harming.
01:48:52.000 Stop harming, you know?
01:48:54.000 Start doing good.
01:48:56.000 As we're on 9-11, maybe the last time that we were united as a country where we're like, no, never again.
01:49:06.000 We can do that now.
01:49:08.000 We really can.
01:49:09.000 I believe in the American spirit.
01:49:12.000 This petty, immature...
01:49:23.000 Hate that people have against other people.
01:49:26.000 They're not other people.
01:49:27.000 They're other Americans that believe in the same thing as you and that want the same thing as you.
01:49:32.000 They might have a different way of going about it and getting there and perspective, but we all bleed red.
01:49:39.000 We all believe in the same thing.
01:49:41.000 We all want the same thing and just finding out how to get there.
01:49:44.000 I wonder what can be done to decouple us from the influence of social media in terms of like there's no way you could stop as of right now.
01:49:54.000 There's no way you could stop trolls.
01:49:55.000 There's no way you can stop things like the Internet Research Agency in Russia or all these different online groups that are just completely created just to fuck with people.
01:50:04.000 There's no way we could stop that now.
01:50:07.000 Nope.
01:50:08.000 If we could, we'd be better for it.
01:50:10.000 Yes, we'd be better for it if we could figure out what is actually happening.
01:50:14.000 If we could clearly identify the source of all these different things and let people know.
01:50:19.000 But people wouldn't even believe it right now.
01:50:21.000 People are so jaded right now if you said, hey, this is a Russian troll.
01:50:24.000 People are like, no, it's not.
01:50:25.000 You just work for Trump.
01:50:26.000 I know what's going on here.
01:50:27.000 You're not going to trick me.
01:50:28.000 My buddy Shane and I were talking about gaslighting this morning, and he and his buddies flew their helicopters over the Trump parade that just happened here in Austin.
01:50:42.000 Thousands of boats went out there.
01:50:44.000 And, um, like a few boats sunk and they're like one guy rented a boat and he forgot to put a plug in there.
01:50:50.000 And, um, one of them was like a really crappy fishing boat that shouldn't even been on the water.
01:50:55.000 And then one guy bought a brand new boat, didn't even know how to operate it.
01:50:58.000 And poor guy sunk his boat, but Shane's like flying around and he sees everything, you know, and they're in there.
01:51:02.000 Robinson's 44. They're like doing these cool V flights and, um, you know, gaslighting is crazy.
01:51:09.000 Telling somebody something that's not true.
01:51:12.000 They're seeing it with their eyes, but they're hearing that it's not real, right?
01:51:17.000 The original play, Gaslight, was this guy making his wife be crazy.
01:51:23.000 He would be able to adjust the wick on his gaslight so it would get darker in there.
01:51:30.000 And she'd be like, is it darker in here?
01:51:32.000 She's like, no, what's wrong with you?
01:51:34.000 Are you crazy?
01:51:35.000 No.
01:51:36.000 So we're in a time where people are telling us what we're supposed to be seeing, but that's not what we're seeing.
01:51:42.000 So I have this conflict.
01:51:44.000 Am I supposed to believe what I'm seeing right here?
01:51:46.000 But we're being gaslit by the wrong information that's being curated in our hands, in our phones, and on our TVs.
01:51:56.000 So the Lake Travis thing, in reality, there's hundreds of boats...
01:52:01.000 Thousands.
01:52:01.000 Thousands of boats that are supporting Trump.
01:52:04.000 Three sunk.
01:52:04.000 But the narrative you're hearing in the media...
01:52:07.000 It was like this catastrophe.
01:52:08.000 Catastrophe.
01:52:09.000 I wasn't there.
01:52:10.000 I was working.
01:52:11.000 Yeah.
01:52:11.000 But, like, my best friend is flying around in helicopters, and he sees the whole entire...
01:52:16.000 He has videos of everybody...
01:52:18.000 People are crazy on boats sometimes.
01:52:22.000 But, you know, he literally sees the whole entire lake from a bird's eye view.
01:52:27.000 And he has photos of the boats, the few that were being towed in.
01:52:33.000 And he's like, man, those were the crappiest.
01:52:35.000 You know, like...
01:52:36.000 I don't even know how those things are on the water.
01:52:37.000 But there's just people that want to participate.
01:52:41.000 But what is this huge half the boat sunk?
01:52:45.000 There's 20 underwater.
01:52:47.000 There's this disaster of an event.
01:52:50.000 Shane's like, I saw thousands of boats with titties being shown and people dancing and Trump flags.
01:52:58.000 Am I being gaslit?
01:53:00.000 You know, he's asking.
01:53:02.000 This is the definition of it.
01:53:03.000 It is amazing that the narrative was the three failures.
01:53:07.000 But if we take that as the micro and blow that up to the macro, that happens in absolutely everything.
01:53:13.000 The shooting here in Austin, right?
01:53:14.000 We have what happened, and then we have what we're told.
01:53:18.000 Right.
01:53:18.000 On both sides.
01:53:19.000 Right.
01:53:20.000 I don't think you could take the final version of these two stories and be like, this is the same situation?
01:53:27.000 There's no possible way that these two stories that went to the right and went to the left that I'm now trying to corroborate could have happened in the same situation.
01:53:41.000 That's how far the lies or the partial truths go.
01:53:46.000 So how do you fix that?
01:53:48.000 I think the only way to fix that is some kind of technology that allows you to accurately read exactly what's going on.
01:53:55.000 That doesn't exist right now.
01:53:57.000 There might be something on the horizon, some neural link type deal, where they're working on the ability to bypass.
01:54:07.000 Right now, the connection between human beings and information is you read it or you see it.
01:54:11.000 But you don't really know what it is.
01:54:13.000 You know, you're reading it, you're seeing it, and you get confirmation.
01:54:16.000 You're not reading it.
01:54:17.000 It's going from the person that is getting it to a thing, and then that thing is controlling what the next group sees.
01:54:23.000 Yes, yes.
01:54:24.000 That's a huge problem.
01:54:25.000 Yes.
01:54:26.000 Like, I don't want my information curated.
01:54:27.000 I just want information.
01:54:29.000 Right.
01:54:29.000 And let me, as a rational, reasonable person, be able to figure out...
01:54:34.000 That is the problem, right?
01:54:36.000 The problem is you can't trust whoever...
01:54:38.000 There's not an unbiased source.
01:54:41.000 Right.
01:54:41.000 It's not an unbiased, and every source is also a corporation.
01:54:46.000 They're all connected to the machine in some really deep and crazy way.
01:54:51.000 The tentacles run deep.
01:54:54.000 Whether it's CNN or Fox News or OAN or whatever the fuck it is, whatever news source, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, they're all giant corporations.
01:55:05.000 They all have huge political investments.
01:55:08.000 And they're going to give you some super distorted version of what's actually...
01:55:16.000 There's not one person who will sit down.
01:55:19.000 There's no Walter Cronkite on television.
01:55:22.000 There's a few that are online.
01:55:23.000 You can get a bunch online.
01:55:25.000 And that's one of the reasons why online news journalism is flourishing.
01:55:29.000 And so many people are turning to these people that are online.
01:55:32.000 Yeah.
01:55:34.000 But they're also flawed because they're human and they have their own biases.
01:55:39.000 Andy Ngo, I follow him on Twitter.
01:55:43.000 He's been on the podcast.
01:55:45.000 He has?
01:55:45.000 Yeah.
01:55:45.000 Pretty passionate guy now.
01:55:48.000 I guess he was assaulted by Antifa.
01:55:51.000 Yeah.
01:55:51.000 Hit him with like some cement milkshake or something.
01:55:53.000 Yeah.
01:55:54.000 And maybe the worst mistake they made because they ignited what was just kind of an independent journalist.
01:56:00.000 Now he's like, nope, I'm mad at Antifa.
01:56:02.000 You guys like beat me up.
01:56:04.000 You damaged my brain.
01:56:06.000 And, you know, but...
01:56:09.000 His journalism on Antifa, albeit trying to be as accurate as possible, we know he has bias because he doesn't like them.
01:56:16.000 They hit him in the head.
01:56:17.000 They beat him.
01:56:19.000 They threw cement milkshakes at him.
01:56:22.000 Even somebody that has trying to do the right thing, it's imperfect because with that person comes bias.
01:56:29.000 How do we just get information?
01:56:32.000 Yeah.
01:56:34.000 Again, I really think that we're so limited because the distribution methods that we have right now for getting out information allow for biases.
01:56:44.000 I don't know what the future has in store, but I think that we're going to come to a time in the not-so-distant future where you're going to be able to know exactly what's real and what's not real.
01:56:55.000 I hope so.
01:56:56.000 That's so cool.
01:56:57.000 Yeah, I think there's going to be a lot of resistance against it, too.
01:57:00.000 We're going to find out a lot of people are full of shit.
01:57:03.000 How cool would that be if...
01:57:04.000 You know, we have the fact checker, which is like the biggest bullshit ever.
01:57:09.000 As a politician's talking, it's like, fact check.
01:57:12.000 And the person fact checking is the most biased, furthest thing from objective fact check that you could possibly get.
01:57:19.000 And it's like, but you're checking the facts.
01:57:21.000 What if as that person was talking...
01:57:26.000 Real time.
01:57:27.000 Like, this is true.
01:57:29.000 Here's like the truth, not Wikipedia statistics, not like Google, also curated statistics, not like information driven from whatever news corporation, but just like the real data was next to that person as they're doing the next debate if a debate happens.
01:57:46.000 That'd be cool.
01:57:47.000 I don't think it's going to happen.
01:57:48.000 You don't think it's going to happen?
01:57:48.000 No.
01:57:49.000 How can you not have a debate?
01:57:50.000 Biden's not going to do it.
01:57:52.000 I don't think he can.
01:57:53.000 I don't think he can stand there for that long and last.
01:57:56.000 I don't even know what his ideas are.
01:58:00.000 But that's the point of the debate, right?
01:58:02.000 Is for me to learn about somebody's platform.
01:58:04.000 Well, you know, at this point, he's doing well by not talking.
01:58:09.000 That's not doing well.
01:58:10.000 When he talks, it hurts him.
01:58:11.000 No.
01:58:12.000 I would never allow him.
01:58:15.000 If I was in the DNC, I'd be like, there's no way you're debating.
01:58:19.000 Trump's going to destroy him.
01:58:21.000 But that doesn't matter because the ideas are the thing that we're voting on.
01:58:24.000 But it doesn't matter because people want to see who can hang in a debate and they don't want to vote for a loser.
01:58:30.000 So if the guy gets up there and falls apart in the debate and starts stumbling his words and starts flubbing and forgetting what he was talking about, like Biden's done on multiple occasions, a lot of people are not going to vote for him.
01:58:42.000 I swear I thought they have a scheduled debate in a couple of weeks.
01:58:45.000 It's not going to happen.
01:58:46.000 Don't tell me that.
01:58:47.000 I'll bet you a hundred bucks doesn't happen.
01:58:49.000 That's usually where I learn about somebody.
01:58:52.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:58:53.000 They're not trying to learn.
01:58:54.000 They're trying to win.
01:58:55.000 I don't know about...
01:58:57.000 Especially, like, I love it when local politicians do debates because those are, like, no-hold-barred truth attacks.
01:59:05.000 You know, like, well, I know you took money from this auto park place, you know, and, like, this guy's like, well, I know you're getting money from, you know, Beto O'Rourke, and you're like, this is awesome, you know, like, I'm learning so much right now that there's no way I would have learned.
01:59:19.000 We kind of have an idea about Trump's policies, but how do we learn about Biden's policies?
01:59:25.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:59:26.000 I think Biden at this point just wants to win.
01:59:29.000 I think the best way they think to win is to keep him from talking too much.
01:59:32.000 If I really had a guess.
01:59:34.000 Kamala Harris is doing a lot of different interviews and talking.
01:59:37.000 What are you laughing at?
01:59:38.000 I'm trying to look up to see what the new information about debates is, and this is the story I found.
01:59:44.000 Trump spurns traditional debate prep with first face-off less than three weeks away.
01:59:49.000 What is he saying?
01:59:50.000 There's supposed to be one in about three weeks, but he has not held a single mock debate, and he says he doesn't need to.
01:59:56.000 President Trump has not held a single mock debate session, has no plans to stage a formal practice round as he readies for his first face-off with Joe Biden in less than three weeks, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions.
02:00:05.000 The president has dismissed the typical debate preparations.
02:00:07.000 He participated in four years ago, joking to aides and allies that he's been preparing for debate since he was born.
02:00:14.000 This is what happens to fighters when they get their ass kicked.
02:00:17.000 His ability to fight back an opponent in real time, he's argued, isn't something you have to practice.
02:00:23.000 That's, yeah, maybe.
02:00:25.000 Instead, Trump has so far chosen to prepare through informal discussions with key allies and Can you?
02:00:40.000 Would you do a debate?
02:00:43.000 Would I? Yeah.
02:00:44.000 Another problem I have with...
02:00:47.000 If I had to do a debate?
02:00:48.000 No, no.
02:00:48.000 Not you debating somebody.
02:00:50.000 Oh, I'd prepare like a motherfucker.
02:00:52.000 I know you would.
02:00:52.000 You'd be fun to watch.
02:00:54.000 But you be the control mechanism to the candidates, like a Biden-Trump debate with Joe Rogan hosting.
02:01:05.000 Your questions...
02:01:07.000 I would want that.
02:01:07.000 First of all, I'd want no one else in the room.
02:01:10.000 Just the people?
02:01:11.000 Just the three of us.
02:01:12.000 Cameras so we can record?
02:01:14.000 Yeah, just the three of us.
02:01:16.000 And you would have to stream it live so no one can edit it.
02:01:18.000 And I would want them in there for hours.
02:01:23.000 We get to hear what they actually believe in, what they're going to do, who they're going to appoint, what judges are going to be coming in, what policies from gun control to all of it.
02:01:33.000 Yes.
02:01:33.000 Why can't we have that?
02:01:35.000 We should have that.
02:01:36.000 This is 2020. I mean, we have the ability to have that.
02:01:39.000 We're not talking about 1979. We're talking about 2020. If they wanted to do that, they both wanted to come here in Austin, sit down and have a debate, I would 100% do it.
02:01:47.000 My God.
02:01:48.000 I would 100% do it.
02:01:49.000 It would be amazing.
02:01:50.000 It would be the best way to find out, but I don't think that Biden can handle it.
02:01:55.000 I think Biden is like...
02:01:56.000 I think he's...
02:01:57.000 I mean, people get mad at me for saying this.
02:01:58.000 I think there's something wrong, and I don't think there's something wrong because I'm guessing or because I'm pro-Trump.
02:02:04.000 I've seen him fall apart.
02:02:06.000 I've seen him...
02:02:06.000 Just talking.
02:02:07.000 He's had multiple brain surgeries.
02:02:09.000 This is him saying, I sent you that thing yesterday, right?
02:02:13.000 I sent you that thing yesterday.
02:02:15.000 Look at this.
02:02:16.000 I'm not trying to be biased in any way, shape, or form.
02:02:20.000 I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter.
02:02:21.000 I just want a Commander-in-Chief that will let me do a Commander-in-Chief.
02:02:26.000 I like Tulsi.
02:02:27.000 Give me a Tulsi Jocko.
02:02:29.000 100%.
02:02:30.000 That'd be fun.
02:02:31.000 Jocko, run for president.
02:02:33.000 Just the beginning of it.
02:02:34.000 Just the beginning of it.
02:02:37.000 He starts talking about his brain surgery.
02:02:40.000 The...
02:02:42.000 The only uncharted person, totally uncharted portion of the universe is the brain.
02:02:50.000 You know, I had, as we used to say in the Senate, excuse the point of personal privilege here.
02:02:57.000 I had two cranial aneurysms, and they literally had to take the top of my head off.
02:03:03.000 I mean, they take a saw and they cut your head off and go in to find the artery that is One was leaking, the other that hadn't, before it burst.
02:03:14.000 Those of your docs know every profession has their sick jokes.
02:03:20.000 The joke among docs is, how do you know someone's had a cranial aneurysm?
02:03:26.000 On the autopsy table.
02:03:28.000 Only 20% of the people have it even get to the table.
02:03:32.000 Well, one of the fascinating things is, the second operation, after the first one, which was a bleed, and they gave me a relatively low chance of surviving.
02:03:40.000 I remember going down to the doc, asking the doc, you know, you're counting the ceiling tiles, and you're heading into the operating room.
02:03:46.000 A lot of you have been there.
02:03:48.000 And I said, Doc, what are my chances?
02:03:52.000 I had two great neurosurgeons.
02:03:54.000 And I'll never forget, I will not mention his name, he's one of the leading neurosurgeons in the world.
02:04:01.000 He said, Senator, for mortality or morbidity?
02:04:05.000 And I'm thinking...
02:04:07.000 I swear to God.
02:04:11.000 Now, this is not a knock on this guy.
02:04:14.000 I'm happy he's alive.
02:04:16.000 But this is what we're talking about.
02:04:20.000 We're talking about someone who...
02:04:21.000 These are legit issues.
02:04:22.000 This is not...
02:04:23.000 He's going to be sitting in a briefing room when...
02:04:27.000 A bunch of people from the Pentagon walk in and say, we have found the number one terrorist on the planet.
02:04:32.000 What do you want us to do?
02:04:35.000 And that guy has to make a choice.
02:04:37.000 This is, by the way, when he was vice president.
02:04:39.000 This is quite a while ago, this film.
02:04:42.000 So, like...
02:04:47.000 The only thing that comes from isolation is a Unabomber.
02:04:54.000 There's nothing good that you can take a candidate and stick him in a basement and hide him there when he is going to have to be in front of 7 billion people and be their representative, both foreign and domestic, about how we're going to be operating.
02:05:09.000 And that scares me.
02:05:11.000 It's weird.
02:05:13.000 I know there's other people that could run for president.
02:05:15.000 I just don't understand why they chose him and why they worked so hard to make sure that he's the guy.
02:05:20.000 It's weird that the Democrats chose that.
02:05:24.000 Do you think we're going to have, regardless of who wins, do you think we're going to have a fair election?
02:05:30.000 I hope so.
02:05:31.000 I don't know.
02:05:32.000 I'm not informed enough to make a statement.
02:05:35.000 Do you think here we are in September?
02:05:37.000 We have September, October, and then we have the election.
02:05:40.000 Yeah, it's pretty quick.
02:05:42.000 Super quick.
02:05:42.000 November 3rd is around the corner.
02:05:45.000 I argue that right now people are trying to negatively affect our election.
02:05:50.000 For sure.
02:05:52.000 And we kind of have to be aware of that.
02:05:57.000 So the next time that you pick up your phone and you're like, I'm going to fry this guy.
02:06:03.000 You know, at white privilege Twitter handle, I'm going to get you.
02:06:09.000 That person just wants you to do exactly what you're doing, which is be mad.
02:06:13.000 There's a high probability that there's a lot of that going on and that it's just feeding the flames of hate.
02:06:20.000 Yeah, and it's even worse because we've had this stupid pandemic that has locked people into the echo chamber of their own ideas.
02:06:26.000 And you could also say it's worse by the way Trump behaves and the way he communicates.
02:06:30.000 This polarizing way that got him famous, you know, you're fired and fuck you and get out of here and all this way that he's...
02:06:40.000 Become famous.
02:06:41.000 It doesn't suit someone to be the commander-in-chief.
02:06:43.000 So all these people that say that he's not presidential, he doesn't act like a statesman, they're right.
02:06:48.000 They are right.
02:06:49.000 This is not what you would want from a person who's the leader.
02:06:52.000 You'd want someone who's exemplary.
02:06:54.000 You'd want someone who's speaking in a way that would make you proud.
02:06:58.000 Like, that is an American president.
02:06:59.000 And the speaking part, that is what we got from Barack Obama.
02:07:04.000 You're so presidential.
02:07:06.000 Amazingly presidential.
02:07:07.000 As presidential as anybody who's ever been.
02:07:08.000 I would argue more so than anybody ever.
02:07:12.000 Even than Clinton.
02:07:13.000 Clinton, when he was at his best, I think he was really good.
02:07:15.000 I think Obama was better.
02:07:16.000 Well-spoken, articulate, patient.
02:07:18.000 Yes, everything.
02:07:19.000 Yes, measured.
02:07:21.000 It made you feel good that a guy smarter than you was the president.
02:07:26.000 You don't feel like that with Trump.
02:07:27.000 You're like, Jesus Christ, don't say that.
02:07:30.000 Ah, what the fuck are you doing?
02:07:31.000 Get out of here.
02:07:33.000 I'm not a supporter of Trump.
02:07:36.000 What I'm seeing though is that if you don't ignore all the things that are going on with Biden, somehow or another, you're a bad person.
02:07:46.000 And that to me, as a person who's a comedian, as a person who hates fundamentalism, as a person who hates rabid ideology, that's driving me crazy.
02:07:55.000 Because this shit is all right in front of you.
02:07:57.000 You're watching him stumble through his words constantly left and right.
02:08:00.000 We're ignoring the fact that he's 77 years old.
02:08:03.000 We're ignoring all these signs that show...
02:08:05.000 I'm not saying that you should vote for Trump.
02:08:08.000 What I'm saying is, how the fuck are the Democrats running with this?
02:08:12.000 How is this in 2020?
02:08:14.000 This is what we're doing?
02:08:16.000 This is what we're doing?
02:08:19.000 And even the choice of Tulsi Gabbard, like, I mean, of locking Tulsi Gabbard out, rather.
02:08:24.000 The choice of eliminating her.
02:08:26.000 The whole thing sat with me.
02:08:27.000 It's so gross.
02:08:29.000 The way they did it, the way they pushed her out, the way they wouldn't even let her speak at the DNC. It's wrong.
02:08:35.000 And, you know, and it was almost like she got canceled by her own party.
02:08:40.000 Yeah.
02:08:40.000 Yeah, it's exactly what it's like.
02:08:42.000 And that's evil, right?
02:08:43.000 Yes.
02:08:43.000 Like, we have a smart veteran...
02:08:46.000 Two terms, or six terms rather, six years as a congresswoman, two overseas tours, two.
02:08:55.000 Been a congresswoman for six fucking years, exemplary record, really reasonable, really intelligent, displays all of the qualities of leadership that you would want from someone running for president.
02:09:06.000 But let's dox her.
02:09:07.000 Yeah.
02:09:08.000 Let's do that.
02:09:09.000 Yeah.
02:09:09.000 What assholes.
02:09:10.000 The whole thing was crazy.
02:09:10.000 The whole thing was crazy.
02:09:12.000 And then his choice to choose...
02:09:14.000 He literally said, I'm going to choose a woman as a running mate.
02:09:18.000 Well, how about choose the best person?
02:09:20.000 If that best person happens to be a woman, that's great.
02:09:22.000 But if you tell me you're going to specifically eliminate males...
02:09:27.000 Well, you're thinking in terms of identity politics.
02:09:30.000 Is this the same Joe Biden that's been in politics for 50 fucking years?
02:09:33.000 All of a sudden, you're an ideologue who is going with identity politics over the best person for the job?
02:09:40.000 Absolutely.
02:09:41.000 Clearly.
02:09:41.000 Clearly.
02:09:42.000 This is crazy talk.
02:09:43.000 Kamala...
02:09:46.000 So the parties defund the police, right?
02:09:48.000 Like, that's a left progressive idea.
02:09:52.000 She is literally the police.
02:09:54.000 She's a cop!
02:09:55.000 And not like, if we're going to solidarity to Black Lives Matter and believe that we can positively affect change, what she was doing as a cop, she's the worst of the cops.
02:10:05.000 She was targeting in the most racist, vicious way, trying to attack the Black communities and black, you know, not even criminals, like drug users, and just hammered them with everything she possibly could.
02:10:23.000 But now she's our vice president.
02:10:27.000 Not only that, she withheld evidence that would show that people were innocent, withheld it from defense attorneys.
02:10:33.000 She kept people incarcerated to use them as cheap labor to fight fire when they were supposed to be released.
02:10:41.000 Yeah.
02:10:42.000 What do we have to do to get a Tulsi Jocko?
02:10:45.000 You like The Rock, right?
02:10:46.000 I love The Rock.
02:10:47.000 He would be like a Tulsi Rock or a Tulsi Jocko?
02:10:51.000 That would be amazing.
02:10:51.000 They could literally win.
02:10:53.000 They could literally win.
02:10:54.000 And I would be 100% in support of that.
02:10:56.000 It's just, we're dealing with this machine, man.
02:10:59.000 And this machine wants to stay in control.
02:11:01.000 And who is going to be a good player for the machine?
02:11:04.000 Who's going to do the right thing?
02:11:06.000 Who's going to do the bidding?
02:11:08.000 I mean, this is how they got Bernie Sanders out.
02:11:11.000 Both times.
02:11:12.000 They weaseled him out.
02:11:13.000 And he still, he bends the knee to them every time.
02:11:16.000 What?
02:11:16.000 I don't know why.
02:11:17.000 He's a good guy.
02:11:18.000 I don't know.
02:11:18.000 Doesn't want conflict.
02:11:19.000 I don't know.
02:11:20.000 He's a very reasonable guy when I met him.
02:11:22.000 I have a ton of respect for him.
02:11:24.000 While I disagree with a lot of his positions in politics, I disagree with a bunch of Tulsi's on foreign policy, about how to do that.
02:11:31.000 But that would be a conversation she and I can...
02:11:34.000 Yes.
02:11:34.000 Well, I would love to have you have that, because the way you explain it, and from your own personal experience serving, this is not just some fucking airy-fairy ideas.
02:11:45.000 I go everywhere with these things.
02:11:47.000 I journal, kind of.
02:11:49.000 I take little weird notes, and you could go, and they're all dated, from trips to Iraq, to Afghanistan, to Niger, to Nigeria, to Burkina Faso, to Mortania, to...
02:12:02.000 Morocco to South Africa, like every freaking crazy place that I have to go.
02:12:06.000 And you could look and then like go forward two years, three years and look again and be like, what?
02:12:11.000 Look at this change.
02:12:13.000 Like it's black and white written in front of you.
02:12:16.000 And my impressions of physically being there at the same place removed by 24 months.
02:12:20.000 And that has happened time and time again.
02:12:22.000 But that's why I wanted to have you want to talk about this because this is a narrative that doesn't get discussed because it's either you're pro-Trump or you're pro-Biden and if you're for Trump you're a racist and if you're for Biden you're a fool.
02:12:34.000 It's like these narratives are so goddamn stupid and they're so damaging to us and I think a lot of them have been reinforced and stoked.
02:12:42.000 The flames have been stoked by people in other countries that are acting as trolls.
02:12:46.000 I think that's a lot of what's going on.
02:12:48.000 There's a fucking great video.
02:12:50.000 See if you can find it.
02:12:51.000 The cat?
02:12:51.000 What?
02:12:52.000 You got something else?
02:12:52.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:12:52.000 As you guys were talking, I found something I didn't want to interrupt with, but to support what we were talking about.
02:12:58.000 As our veins were popping, both Joe and I were like, Russian, Chinese, and Iranian hackers, all targeting 2020 election, Microsoft says.
02:13:07.000 So they put out a blog today, and they detail what's been going on with these companies.
02:13:10.000 But does this support?
02:13:11.000 Surprise anyone?
02:13:12.000 No.
02:13:12.000 So if they're doing this, what else are they doing in real time?
02:13:16.000 So they're not just online.
02:13:18.000 If you don't think that there are...
02:13:19.000 We call them Jedbergs.
02:13:21.000 If you don't think that there are foreign operatives that are working here, both at universities and in cities, part of the political process or part of the Antifa strategic organization, they are doing this in real time in person, not just online.
02:13:37.000 This is the craziest.
02:13:38.000 We've observed...
02:13:41.000 Yeah.
02:13:42.000 Strontium operating from Russia has attacked more than 200 organizations, including political campaigns, advocacy groups, parties, and political consultants.
02:13:50.000 Zirconium operating in China has attacked high-profile individuals associated with the election, including people associated with the Joe Biden for President campaign and the prominent leaders in the international affairs community.
02:14:03.000 Phosphorus operating from Iran Has continued to attack the personal accounts of people associated with Donald J. Trump for president campaign.
02:14:10.000 Yeah, they're fucking with us.
02:14:12.000 But look.
02:14:13.000 Yeah.
02:14:13.000 Is it one side or the other?
02:14:16.000 No.
02:14:16.000 They're all over the place.
02:14:18.000 Trump, Biden, the parties, the consultants, the point is they have to delegitimize the process.
02:14:24.000 Right.
02:14:25.000 And the best way to do it is just to make it look bad and to make us fight and to make us argue.
02:14:31.000 And the fact that there's people walking down the street being like, I hate cops!
02:14:35.000 You guys are evil!
02:14:36.000 Do you know any?
02:14:37.000 Or did you just read what has been echoed?
02:14:41.000 Like my friend Matt's son who called the cops when the house was making noise.
02:14:46.000 That's who these people are.
02:14:47.000 Hey, there's a video of a crow fucking with these two cats.
02:14:53.000 It's one of my favorite videos.
02:14:54.000 There's a crow, and there's these two cats that are looking at each other from opposing rooftops and looking at each other.
02:15:00.000 And the crow gets over and gets near the cat and starts fucking with him.
02:15:03.000 The cat's like, get out of here!
02:15:05.000 Watch this.
02:15:05.000 So here's the cat, and there's the crow.
02:15:07.000 And the crow flies over...
02:15:10.000 And starts fucking with these cats and gets these cats to duke it out.
02:15:15.000 He literally instigates this fight.
02:15:17.000 Look, he flies over.
02:15:18.000 A fucking bird is coming near a cat.
02:15:20.000 Why would he do that?
02:15:21.000 He's doing it because he wants to fuck with him.
02:15:23.000 So he gets him a little agitated, and then he flies back and gets him a little agitated, just fucks with him just a little bit.
02:15:30.000 And then he flies over to the other cat.
02:15:32.000 And he goes back and forth and fucks with him.
02:15:34.000 Look, he goes behind him and fucks with him.
02:15:36.000 He's irritating him.
02:15:38.000 Crows are fucking smart, man.
02:15:39.000 And this little cunt just starts pestering these cats and gets these cats.
02:15:44.000 Look at him.
02:15:45.000 He's pecking at his ass.
02:15:46.000 He's literally...
02:15:47.000 Look, so the cat's like, fuck you!
02:15:49.000 The cat reacts by jumping over and fucking attacking the other cat.
02:15:54.000 They go off the edge.
02:15:54.000 And they fall off a roof.
02:15:55.000 And the crow follows him!
02:15:57.000 This fucking crow is a monster!
02:16:00.000 That crow is all the online trolls.
02:16:03.000 These are Biden and Trump supporters engaged in mortal combat here.
02:16:07.000 Look at the crow.
02:16:08.000 Look, they go down the fucking hole where the basement is.
02:16:10.000 And the crow's like, fucking losers.
02:16:13.000 Fight.
02:16:13.000 Fight.
02:16:14.000 You're black.
02:16:15.000 You're white.
02:16:15.000 Fight.
02:16:16.000 Isn't that amazing?
02:16:16.000 Yeah.
02:16:17.000 That video's amazing.
02:16:17.000 That's it right there.
02:16:18.000 I fucking love that video.
02:16:19.000 That video is exactly what's going on right now.
02:16:22.000 They were just looking at each other.
02:16:24.000 The cats were just looking at each other.
02:16:25.000 They probably would have gone the rest of the day without fighting.
02:16:28.000 Yeah, just lapping some milk, chasing a mouse, you know, but no.
02:16:31.000 That cunt of a crow started all that shit.
02:16:34.000 Got them fired up.
02:16:34.000 And that crow is Russia and China and Iran and every other country that hates us.
02:16:38.000 And then those two nice, peaceful cats fell off a roof fighting.
02:16:43.000 But that's what we're doing.
02:16:44.000 Exactly.
02:16:44.000 We're literally pushing each other off cliffs.
02:16:47.000 There's another one.
02:16:47.000 Crows do it constantly.
02:16:49.000 Look at him.
02:16:49.000 Look at him.
02:16:50.000 Just walking up to that cat and fuck with him.
02:16:52.000 They like watching fights.
02:16:53.000 Look at him.
02:16:54.000 He's like, yeah, get after it, boys.
02:16:56.000 Get after it.
02:16:57.000 Get top.
02:16:58.000 Get top.
02:16:58.000 Come on.
02:16:58.000 How funny is that that crows like to do that?
02:17:00.000 So awesome.
02:17:01.000 They do it on purpose, those little twats.
02:17:03.000 It's kind of amazing.
02:17:05.000 It is kind of amazing.
02:17:08.000 Props to the crow for figuring that out.
02:17:11.000 Crows are just like people.
02:17:12.000 We all like watching fights.
02:17:13.000 And looking at Americans, it's pretty easy to know how to piss us off now.
02:17:18.000 Every single one of these little hot button topics pop up.
02:17:21.000 There's somebody over there like, oh, I'm going to push that button.
02:17:24.000 Then a new button pops up like, oh, I'm going to push that button.
02:17:26.000 How many buttons can we have right now?
02:17:28.000 Because we're getting so pissed off at everything.
02:17:30.000 Yeah, we're all button.
02:17:32.000 We're all button.
02:17:32.000 Yeah, we're full of buttons.
02:17:34.000 Go outside.
02:17:35.000 Go exercise.
02:17:36.000 Go do something.
02:17:37.000 Go have sex.
02:17:38.000 Yeah, please.
02:17:39.000 If you want to make a change, don't throw a Molotov cocktail.
02:17:42.000 Go find a police officer and talk to him for a little bit.
02:17:44.000 Or go to Baltimore and talk to the black community there and figure out how you can help.
02:17:50.000 Has anyone gone and figured out how they can help one of these communities?
02:17:55.000 No.
02:17:55.000 Because they don't care.
02:17:56.000 No, that doesn't get you Instagram likes.
02:18:00.000 The other thing that's going on, too, the timing of the fucking pandemic is so crazily perfect.
02:18:07.000 I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the sense like I don't believe in nonsense.
02:18:12.000 There's just too much nonsense going on.
02:18:13.000 But God, if I was...
02:18:15.000 I'll be looking at this and I'm like, this is so perfectly organized.
02:18:19.000 And then the response.
02:18:21.000 Like, keep people from working.
02:18:22.000 Keep people from working.
02:18:24.000 So what?
02:18:24.000 So they're broke and scared and angry?
02:18:26.000 And then they're even more subject to this shit?
02:18:29.000 And now, as we're, what, five months removed, we're having that same conversation about schools.
02:18:34.000 Well, schools is a necessary component for people to work.
02:18:37.000 Like, if your kids aren't in school, you can't go to work, because that's a form of childcare for a lot of households.
02:18:43.000 And we're like, ah, I'm not sure it's safe.
02:18:49.000 I was joking about injecting myself with COVID in my neck.
02:18:52.000 You could take my breastfed babies that eat elk and free-range chickens and have lived in safety and security their entire lives, and you could cover the whole entire room with COVID, and my 10-month-old is going to poop that stuff out in like an hour.
02:19:07.000 Because they're healthy, balanced, powerful individuals.
02:19:11.000 My teenage daughters, we have not lived a day in this whole entire pandemic really recognizing what we're supposed to be doing.
02:19:19.000 We have maintained health outside, activities, exercise, hunting, real food, and so, so better situated and prepared now for what looks like a scary six months in the future.
02:19:36.000 I'm scared because this entire country, 6 billion people, have been locked up moving into an election that is going to be a frightening, dangerous election.
02:19:49.000 Yeah, there's no winners in this election.
02:19:52.000 Whoever wins is going to be chaos on the other side.
02:19:56.000 When you say I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but here we are with a pandemic that shut down our economy for five months on an election year that looks like it was the origin is in China.
02:20:10.000 What are your theories?
02:20:12.000 I just think that, first of all, talking to Brett Weinstein about it, who's a biologist, and he went into great...
02:20:21.000 If you're listening to this podcast, please go back and listen to the most recent podcast I did with Brett, which was like, what, four months ago, Jamie?
02:20:28.000 Three months ago, maybe?
02:20:30.000 Something along those lines?
02:20:32.000 Yeah, maybe even two months ago.
02:20:34.000 He detailed the scientific reasons why he believes this came from a lab.
02:20:43.000 And he said, I do not know for certain, but with reasonable speculation, you could look at this and say, this makes a lot of sense that it was coming from a lab because of these particular reasons.
02:20:56.000 Yeah.
02:20:57.000 That lab was cited in 2018 for safety violations.
02:21:01.000 China, because it's a communist country, because they're a dictatorship, there's not a lot of incentive to behave the way you would hope that an organization would behave.
02:21:16.000 You're under the knife and the boot of the government all the time.
02:21:21.000 People don't...
02:21:22.000 Do the best work when they're scared like that.
02:21:25.000 And that lab was cited.
02:21:27.000 And there's no incentive.
02:21:28.000 No incentive.
02:21:29.000 Yeah.
02:21:30.000 No matter how much you work.
02:21:32.000 Fear is your only incentive.
02:21:33.000 You don't get anything more for working harder or better.
02:21:36.000 Right.
02:21:37.000 You just don't get killed.
02:21:38.000 So, 2018, they were cited for safety violations.
02:21:41.000 This is exactly the same area where they're doing this work on coronaviruses from bats, and this is exactly where the origin of the disease was.
02:21:51.000 It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that it came from there.
02:21:53.000 They don't think that it came on purpose, though.
02:21:56.000 They think it was just a sloppy leak from the lab.
02:21:59.000 Sometimes things happen where they're just perfectly aligned, and then people take advantage of those opportunities.
02:22:06.000 They take advantage of these situations.
02:22:08.000 There's a lot of people that believe that 9-11 was an inside job.
02:22:11.000 What I think is, when 9-11 happened, I think there was many people that took advantage of the chaos.
02:22:19.000 And there was things that were passed, like the Patriot Act.
02:22:22.000 They're getting fired up on that.
02:22:24.000 Let's reference that constitution again.
02:22:25.000 Yeah.
02:22:26.000 It's sweeping...
02:22:28.000 I talked to Snowden recently.
02:22:30.000 These sweeping, just overall surveillance of law-abiding citizens that are doing nothing wrong.
02:22:37.000 And they lied about it.
02:22:38.000 They lied about it.
02:22:39.000 They all lied about it.
02:22:39.000 They lied about it to Congress.
02:22:40.000 They lied about it to our face.
02:22:42.000 Obama lied about it.
02:22:43.000 Everybody lied about it.
02:22:43.000 They knew what the fuck they were doing.
02:22:45.000 They took advantage of the fact that people were scared, and they started just...
02:22:48.000 Just going into everybody's shit.
02:22:50.000 Single most intrusive moment in American history.
02:22:54.000 In our freedoms.
02:22:56.000 Not being encroached on.
02:22:57.000 Not like a little trickle of, you know, cut by a thousand or death by a thousand cuts.
02:23:02.000 Like, 9-11 happened.
02:23:03.000 We lost and gave up so much of our perceived rights.
02:23:10.000 Right?
02:23:11.000 Like, no, you can't look at my emails.
02:23:12.000 Like, I thought my emails were protected like my mail.
02:23:15.000 You can't open my mail without a warrant.
02:23:16.000 There's a due process to that.
02:23:18.000 That's gone.
02:23:18.000 I think every single 20-year-old right now expects that every text message that they send and every Facebook message, DM, Instagram, Twitch, every one of those things can be read by somebody else.
02:23:33.000 That they don't own that stuff.
02:23:35.000 That's not how I grew up.
02:23:36.000 I grew up like that was my ideas.
02:23:38.000 Those are my words.
02:23:39.000 That's my property.
02:23:40.000 If somebody wants it, they have to have a warrant to look at it.
02:23:43.000 Now, go from 9-11 to Corona.
02:23:48.000 Now the second most serious time that we lost more of our freedoms.
02:23:53.000 9-11 and this.
02:23:54.000 Winston Churchill said, never waste a good crisis.
02:23:57.000 Yes.
02:23:58.000 And you want to know when a government is going to overreach?
02:24:02.000 It's in crisis.
02:24:03.000 Yes.
02:24:03.000 And if you are not a strong, healthy individual that is able to be self-sufficient and be able to rationally look at things without getting spun up by the echo chamber that you're living in in Twitter, you're going to allow that to happen because you're just being pitted against each other by this dribble that's being pushed into your face by people that are just trying to profiteer off of what you see and what you hear and what you think.
02:24:27.000 That's exactly what I think is happening right now.
02:24:29.000 That's exactly what I think is happening.
02:24:31.000 I think there's people that are taking advantage of this crisis.
02:24:35.000 So I think the way to fight that is as a society to unify.
02:24:43.000 To reasonably, collectively be like, no.
02:24:47.000 You said they canceled Halloween.
02:24:50.000 They can't cancel Halloween.
02:24:52.000 It's fucking crazy.
02:24:53.000 No, they can't.
02:24:54.000 The only way that they can is you allowing it to happen.
02:24:57.000 They can't shut down your salon.
02:24:59.000 They can't tell you you can't go door to door and trick or treat.
02:25:02.000 Right.
02:25:02.000 They can't.
02:25:02.000 They cannot.
02:25:03.000 They can't do that.
02:25:04.000 They can try.
02:25:05.000 And the only way that they can't do it is if you go and do it.
02:25:08.000 But the fact is there's no uniformity because they're allowing people to protest.
02:25:12.000 So you're allowing people to protest.
02:25:14.000 About some things.
02:25:14.000 About some things.
02:25:15.000 Black Lives Matter.
02:25:16.000 That's it.
02:25:17.000 Yep.
02:25:17.000 Allowed.
02:25:17.000 Yeah.
02:25:18.000 But a counter-COVID protest, you evidently will get COVID. Los Angeles backtracks on coronavirus trick or treat ban this Halloween.
02:25:25.000 Good, you fucks.
02:25:26.000 They should drown you all.
02:25:27.000 There you go.
02:25:28.000 The fact that you even considered it.
02:25:31.000 Dunk you all in toilets.
02:25:34.000 We did it in an hour.
02:25:36.000 We changed California.
02:25:38.000 Well, everybody freaked out.
02:25:39.000 I bet 30,000 people moved out of California the day they read that.
02:25:43.000 My wife got a text from one of her friends.
02:25:45.000 She's like, fuck this, I'm out of here.
02:25:47.000 And she sent her the news on California banning trick-or-treat.
02:25:51.000 That was her thing.
02:25:53.000 Now, pedophilia alone would be another reason to leave.
02:25:55.000 You know, I'd be out of California pretty fast.
02:25:56.000 Is there a lot of pedophilia in California?
02:25:59.000 Yeah.
02:26:00.000 Well, here's another thing.
02:26:01.000 You have legislation that's kind of being passed to...
02:26:03.000 Oh, what is that?
02:26:04.000 You put that on your Instagram.
02:26:05.000 Is it...
02:26:07.000 Is that real?
02:26:08.000 Yeah, it's real.
02:26:08.000 Is that 100% legit?
02:26:09.000 That's real and legit.
02:26:10.000 So does that really mean that a 20-year-old can have sex with a 10-year-old because it's a 10-year difference?
02:26:15.000 But isn't statutory rape anybody who's under 18?
02:26:18.000 Yeah.
02:26:18.000 No, it's lessening the penalty for it.
02:26:21.000 So let's say the trans community, LGBTQ community, was in big support of this bill.
02:26:30.000 Because it's not fair for male to female.
02:26:34.000 So if, let's say, a 17-year-old has sex with a 15-year-old and she gets pregnant, there is a law in place where he is not going to go on the sex registry because he,
02:26:52.000 as a father to that child, would have a difficult time being able to, if he's on a sex registry, get a job, pay for child support.
02:27:00.000 So they have kind of protections in place where if...
02:27:03.000 That's only in California?
02:27:04.000 Yeah.
02:27:05.000 But if he had orally or anally had sex with her, then the law would be...
02:27:15.000 The penalty would be more severe.
02:27:17.000 He would be on the...
02:27:21.000 Sex offender list.
02:27:23.000 Because he's not trying to procreate.
02:27:26.000 So the community, like the LGBTQ community was like, this is an unfair law because, you know, it's a gay relationship.
02:27:38.000 They have a harsher penalty than a male and female relationship.
02:27:44.000 So they should be the same if...
02:27:47.000 Well, I recognize that, and I acknowledge that that's the case, and I want it to be fair, but I also don't want a 19-year-old or 24-year-old having sex with a 15-year-old.
02:27:59.000 Yeah.
02:28:00.000 No.
02:28:00.000 I don't care where it is.
02:28:02.000 No, that's crazy.
02:28:03.000 There's a reason.
02:28:03.000 18 is 18. I mean, it's a good number.
02:28:06.000 It's not.
02:28:07.000 It should be later.
02:28:07.000 How old do you think you should be?
02:28:09.000 Well, I mean, to have sex, I guess, 18. But, like, I was a disaster.
02:28:13.000 At 18. Well, I was too, but...
02:28:15.000 I can vote at 18!
02:28:16.000 But if I was 18 and a 23-year-old woman wanted to fuck me, I don't think she should go to jail.
02:28:20.000 I was ready.
02:28:21.000 Yeah, I mean...
02:28:22.000 18-year-olds are ready.
02:28:24.000 Like, the problem is our perceptions of sex.
02:28:27.000 I mean, I'm talking about someone who's a grown adult.
02:28:28.000 Yeah.
02:28:28.000 I feel like 18 is at least pretty close to a grown adult.
02:28:32.000 Yeah.
02:28:32.000 Maybe, you know, voting, we should extend to 21 where drinking is.
02:28:36.000 Yeah.
02:28:36.000 It might not be the worst idea in the world, but as far as, like, being responsible for your actions, 18 is a 18 is where, and that was the point of my post, is that that person can have consent.
02:28:50.000 Yes.
02:28:50.000 The way that it's written was somebody willfully having anal or oral sex.
02:28:56.000 Right.
02:28:57.000 I'm saying anybody under 18, if you can't, you're not willful.
02:29:02.000 You're not allowed to be willful.
02:29:03.000 Right.
02:29:04.000 Because you don't have the right to have consent yet.
02:29:07.000 Right.
02:29:07.000 You're too young.
02:29:08.000 Too young.
02:29:08.000 You're not an adult.
02:29:09.000 No.
02:29:10.000 Yeah, that's a fucked up law.
02:29:12.000 We only get the crazy sex trafficking of...
02:29:15.000 I saw the picture of the guy who made the bill, too, dressed with a fucking dog collar on.
02:29:20.000 Yeah, he's a weirdo.
02:29:22.000 Don't make any laws, especially around sex.
02:29:25.000 Yeah, but I just don't understand how it passed.
02:29:29.000 It didn't.
02:29:32.000 How the fuck is that?
02:29:33.000 No, it just has to be signed by Newsom.
02:29:35.000 So yeah, past legislation hasn't been signed.
02:29:37.000 Yeah, it's passed.
02:29:38.000 Yeah, that's what I was saying.
02:29:39.000 You just need a wet ink signature.
02:29:42.000 Jesus Christ, that seems so insane that a 20-year-old can fuck a 10-year-old.
02:29:46.000 Like a 20-year-old can have a 10-year-old boyfriend and decide that it's consent.
02:29:51.000 A 20-year-old man can have a 10-year-old boyfriend and as long as it's within the 10-year boundary, you're okay.
02:29:57.000 So...
02:29:58.000 Again, I realize unconscious bias.
02:30:00.000 I have a pretty jaded view of things.
02:30:02.000 And when it comes to children heavily involved in counter-sex trafficking, moving from Deliver Fund to Guardian Group to now with Victor Marks, fighting worldwide and nationally, like...
02:30:18.000 This disgusting thing that is pedophilia.
02:30:22.000 That is not a sexual orientation and people in power like finding children to victimize and they are worth money.
02:30:30.000 But there's a thing now where people are trying to portray it as a sexual inclination, as a sexual proclivity.
02:30:38.000 There's a TEDx talk.
02:30:41.000 Have you seen that?
02:30:42.000 Yeah.
02:30:42.000 Where this woman is talking about how we have to have compassion for pedophilia the same way we have compassion for homosexuals or trans people.
02:30:49.000 And it's like, what are you talking about?
02:30:51.000 Well, I mean, I have compassion for the person, but I'm not going to have compassion for any of their actions.
02:30:58.000 And if they need help, we can get them help, like put them in an institution and they can realign whatever their problems are.
02:31:07.000 But like being attracted to a child is...
02:31:10.000 Period.
02:31:11.000 Wrong.
02:31:11.000 End of story.
02:31:12.000 I don't care what you think.
02:31:13.000 Agreed.
02:31:14.000 100%.
02:31:14.000 But here's the thing.
02:31:15.000 How does that woman know?
02:31:17.000 This is the thing about pedophilia.
02:31:20.000 Someone who's not a pedophile, to say that this person is a pedophile can't help themselves.
02:31:24.000 How do you know?
02:31:25.000 What are you basing this on?
02:31:28.000 You're not basing it on your own personal feelings.
02:31:30.000 I know I am attracted to women.
02:31:32.000 I know it.
02:31:34.000 I know there's a lot of people like me.
02:31:36.000 If I talk to another guy and he goes, that girl's hot.
02:31:40.000 I go, yeah, she is hot.
02:31:41.000 I get it.
02:31:41.000 I see what you see.
02:31:42.000 But if you're talking about someone who's attracted to children, that's so fucking alien to me.
02:31:48.000 So if you're telling me that someone can't help themselves because this is a natural sexual inclination, how do you know that?
02:31:54.000 I don't know that that's true.
02:31:56.000 And I don't know what the fuck you do to save them or to fix them.
02:31:59.000 I don't know.
02:32:00.000 But I think the primary concern is protecting children.
02:32:04.000 Primary.
02:32:05.000 More than having compassion for pedophiles.
02:32:09.000 Protection, we have to put action to that word.
02:32:11.000 What does protection look like?
02:32:13.000 That is law.
02:32:14.000 That is legislation.
02:32:15.000 That is people that are being able to stand, not allow evil to happen.
02:32:19.000 For evil to conquer, it just takes good men doing nothing.
02:32:22.000 Standing back and being like...
02:32:24.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess they could recognize and align themselves with being attracted to children.
02:32:27.000 No!
02:32:28.000 No!
02:32:28.000 No!
02:32:29.000 Not a chance.
02:32:30.000 And if you do something and you touch a child, let me tell you how that's going to end.
02:32:34.000 Yeah, not good.
02:32:36.000 Yeah, and it shouldn't.
02:32:37.000 And that's how everybody feels.
02:32:38.000 Everybody who has children, and specifically, fuck.
02:32:43.000 The fact that that actually can get all the way through to the governor's office is bonkers.
02:32:48.000 Who knows what he's going to do?
02:32:51.000 He'll lick his finger and find out which way the wind's blowing.
02:32:54.000 How progressive am I going to be here?
02:32:57.000 You know, I'm all about getting re-elected.
02:33:02.000 Thank God.
02:33:05.000 Yeah.
02:33:22.000 Uh, he works for a nuclear power plant, Chad.
02:33:25.000 And, um, so he's, he's pretty like military go-getter, hard worker.
02:33:30.000 You know, my sister's a homeschooler.
02:33:31.000 She's homeschooled all their kids and they're brilliant.
02:33:34.000 Like play multiple instruments, um, like, you know, grades ahead of everybody else.
02:33:39.000 And while the whole entire world is like, what are we going to do about education?
02:33:41.000 My sister's like individual responsibility.
02:33:43.000 You could have been doing it yourself.
02:33:45.000 Not everybody has that opportunity, I understand.
02:33:47.000 My parents being landowners, my brother being a police officer, we have been in California, that's where I grew up, and we have been fighting for rational, reasonable politics,
02:34:02.000 and we feel like we're in a foreign land.
02:34:05.000 Yeah.
02:34:06.000 You know, you ask how I came to Texas.
02:34:08.000 It's like, I was a coward.
02:34:10.000 I just couldn't.
02:34:11.000 I said I wanted to be in a fight that I had a chance of winning.
02:34:14.000 Yeah.
02:34:15.000 Like, maybe now, for the first time, California has a hope, a chance of, like, changing the course of where they've been, the trajectory.
02:34:23.000 So much damage has been done, though.
02:34:24.000 You can undo it.
02:34:26.000 I love Dan Crenshaw's...
02:34:27.000 He said that if every law that's written, we have to unwrite another law.
02:34:33.000 It's a hard thing to do to take legislation that's already been approved and passed and then remove it.
02:34:41.000 That's a harder thing than getting a new law.
02:34:43.000 So now we have this crazy amount of laws, both local, state, federal, and they just keep stacking on top of each other.
02:34:52.000 And none of them are good, or most of them aren't.
02:34:55.000 I love Dan Crenshaw.
02:34:56.000 That's another guy I should run for president.
02:35:01.000 I just think California, I mean, there was an article that was written about me being a coward from leaving.
02:35:08.000 I'm like, yeah, yeah, totally.
02:35:09.000 You should stay and fight.
02:35:10.000 I'm like, fuck you.
02:35:11.000 Fuck you.
02:35:11.000 And fuck you for a bunch of reasons.
02:35:14.000 We could start with you not letting people go back to work.
02:35:16.000 I think that's unconstitutional and insane.
02:35:19.000 And I think that's so short-sighted.
02:35:21.000 And people are furious.
02:35:22.000 And then when you see Nancy Pelosi go to a fucking hair salon without a mask, you're like, oh!
02:35:27.000 I see how you people really are.
02:35:29.000 You can also never listen to anyone that is telling you to lose a gun when they're protected by private security.
02:35:34.000 A hundred percent.
02:35:35.000 You saw that with the mayor of Chicago.
02:35:37.000 She's all for protest until they came to her block.
02:35:39.000 And then she's like, get the protest off my block.
02:35:42.000 I have a right to protect myself.
02:35:44.000 What the fuck are you talking about?
02:35:46.000 That's what everybody's saying.
02:35:47.000 You hypocrite.
02:35:47.000 Yes, you hypocrite.
02:35:48.000 Yeah.
02:35:49.000 It's just, and this is what happens when people get into power.
02:35:52.000 This is my problem.
02:35:54.000 They're in protected, entitled positions.
02:35:56.000 Exactly.
02:35:57.000 Surrounded by people with guns.
02:35:58.000 Exactly.
02:35:59.000 And they're telling other people, us, you can't go to salons.
02:36:02.000 You can't get your hair done.
02:36:03.000 You can't go and have a gun.
02:36:06.000 But I'm going to sit here in my high tower because I know what's best for you.
02:36:09.000 I don't know what the solution is.
02:36:11.000 Yeah, vote them out.
02:36:13.000 Yeah, vote them out.
02:36:13.000 But even then, I think there's a problem with one person running things.
02:36:17.000 I mean, I really think there's a problem with a mayor or a governor.
02:36:20.000 I think there should be a committee.
02:36:22.000 I think there should be a group of people.
02:36:23.000 There is, right?
02:36:25.000 You have your city council.
02:36:26.000 So here in Austin, we have a dumb mayor.
02:36:30.000 And that mayor has a bunch of city council people that are also dumb and do dumb things.
02:36:35.000 Like defund the police.
02:36:36.000 Yeah.
02:36:37.000 By $300 million.
02:36:38.000 Yeah, $150 million.
02:36:39.000 150?
02:36:40.000 Yeah.
02:36:41.000 The governor stepped in and said, okay, well, if you do that, you don't get any property taxes.
02:36:45.000 That's so genius.
02:36:46.000 He's brilliant.
02:36:47.000 It's a brilliant move by the governor.
02:36:49.000 And if safety becomes such a concern here, he will roll in state police to...
02:36:57.000 Keep the peace.
02:36:58.000 Yeah, the difference.
02:37:00.000 Good.
02:37:00.000 Thank you.
02:37:27.000 No, you don't need a tank or an AT4 or, you know, a.50 cal unless you're fighting the cartels.
02:37:34.000 But what you do need is the process of the refiner's fire and being able to train imperfections out of people.
02:37:42.000 Could you imagine if a city council member had to ride along with the police for a month?
02:37:49.000 That's a great idea.
02:37:50.000 They had to go on the calls with them.
02:37:51.000 Domestic disputes, pullovers for DUIs.
02:37:54.000 Not sit in the car.
02:37:55.000 They've got to get out and walk up to that car.
02:37:57.000 They've got to put their hand on the back of the car.
02:38:00.000 Put their fingerprint on there.
02:38:01.000 Because if they die, they want a little bit of evidence.
02:38:04.000 Police officers do that.
02:38:05.000 Every time they walk up to a car, if you watch them, they go and they'll put their thumb or their hand on the back of the car so their print is on the car.
02:38:12.000 So if they get killed there, later you can find out who did it.
02:38:16.000 Isn't that crazy how sad that is?
02:38:18.000 It is sad.
02:38:19.000 But as that police officer is walking up there, hello sir, you're going 85 in a 65. I smell alcohol.
02:38:26.000 I'm going to have to ask you to get out of the car.
02:38:27.000 We're going to do a sobriety check here on the side of the road, which is dangerous.
02:38:31.000 And over here is a city council member that was just recently elected, and they're going to be observing this.
02:38:37.000 Like, how How cool is that?
02:38:39.000 It would be a good idea.
02:38:40.000 It would eliminate a lot of people from that fucking job.
02:38:42.000 Yeah.
02:38:43.000 They'd also not, they'd understand.
02:38:46.000 Like you said, how do we get this information out?
02:38:49.000 Like if you could do anything to, you know, like Tulsi Gabbard and I are going to debate about foreign policy.
02:38:56.000 I first have to explain and let them understand what I've seen.
02:39:00.000 And that's a hard thing to do unless somebody sees it and then it changes, you know, their view.
02:39:06.000 Yeah.
02:39:09.000 Fun times, man.
02:39:10.000 What do you think happens in November?
02:39:12.000 First of all, do you think that this whole voting by mail thing, which is being hotly contested, it's so odd.
02:39:22.000 I get very nervous when one side's really into it and one side's really not into it.
02:39:28.000 I don't like that.
02:39:28.000 That makes me real nervous because I don't know what the fuck is going on.
02:39:31.000 Man, everything that...
02:39:32.000 If you pull my wallet out, I have a license from the FAA. I had to send them a whole bunch of stuff for me to be able to get into a helicopter.
02:39:44.000 I have my driver's license.
02:39:46.000 I have my concealed carry permit.
02:39:48.000 I have my security consulting license.
02:39:49.000 I have my DOD ID. That's five different IDs that are like...
02:39:54.000 I can't go do anything in any one of those fields without it.
02:39:57.000 A little picture of my face.
02:39:59.000 And I really like that because I can't access a government computer without that card.
02:40:04.000 I can't go in and sign my annual review, my NCOER, without my card.
02:40:11.000 And it's like proof of who I am and what I'm doing.
02:40:15.000 And the thought that they're going to mail out tens of thousands, if not millions, of ballots to dead people, to...
02:40:27.000 They don't even know who.
02:40:28.000 They're just sending them to addresses.
02:40:29.000 Did you see what's her name?
02:40:31.000 Kayleigh McEnany?
02:40:32.000 How do you say her name?
02:40:33.000 The woman who's the White House press secretary?
02:40:35.000 See if you can find this.
02:40:36.000 She said that 117% of the people that are registered to vote in California...
02:40:44.000 Just find the quote, because it's kind of crazy.
02:40:47.000 But she was arguing against voting online.
02:40:53.000 Or, excuse me, voting by mail.
02:40:54.000 She's like, this is why.
02:40:56.000 What is happening here where there's 17% more people than are registered to vote that have the opportunity to vote in California?
02:41:03.000 They're in 2016. I know I butchered that.
02:41:06.000 I know, but I mean, I've had other stuff ready to go for this.
02:41:09.000 I've been paying attention to this.
02:41:11.000 Oh, okay.
02:41:11.000 There's like no proof of voter fraud by mail that I've looked up and found that anybody else has been looking up and finding just saying that it's going to be a problem without providing evidence.
02:41:22.000 Nobody's done it, though.
02:41:23.000 Yeah, no one's done it at this scale.
02:41:25.000 I mean, no one's done it like they're going to do it.
02:41:27.000 What they're saying is they're trying to do all the voting by mail or a giant percentage of it by mail.
02:41:32.000 That's never happened before.
02:41:33.000 The same with the post office problem.
02:41:35.000 They're like, no, we're not going to negatively affect the election.
02:41:40.000 We're going to try to do everything that we can.
02:41:42.000 But the post office is like, I don't know if we can do this right now.
02:41:45.000 Yeah, when someone's saying there's no evidence for voter fraud in the past, yeah, right, but what percentage of people have voted by mail in the past?
02:41:51.000 It's been reasonably small.
02:41:53.000 Find out that McKennany quote, because it's a kind of crazy thing.
02:41:59.000 117% California registered.
02:42:02.000 She was explaining how there's multiple issues with this.
02:42:06.000 Like, these people that are sending in these mail-in ballots, like...
02:42:10.000 How many of these are legit?
02:42:12.000 How do you find out how much research has to be done, how much investigation has to be done to make sure that these are legit ballots?
02:42:19.000 Do you see some of the districts in Illinois during the 2016 election, there was like 104% came in for Obama?
02:42:28.000 Yeah.
02:42:29.000 Yeah.
02:42:30.000 That's not right.
02:42:32.000 It's impossible.
02:42:34.000 That doesn't make sense.
02:42:35.000 It's like I'm 100% committed.
02:42:37.000 Okay, good.
02:42:38.000 I'm 110% committed.
02:42:40.000 That's impossible.
02:42:41.000 You can't be.
02:42:41.000 You stop there.
02:42:42.000 You can't be 110%.
02:42:44.000 I know you want a bigger number, but that's an American thing to want.
02:42:49.000 When I'm trying to look this up for her, all I'm finding are reports saying that she's voted by bail a lot of times.
02:42:55.000 Yeah, but that's not what we're asking.
02:42:56.000 I know, and I'm looking for the article you're asking for.
02:42:58.000 So hard to find.
02:42:59.000 I'm trying to find the specific thing.
02:43:01.000 Have you ever started to type in a Twitter search?
02:43:04.000 Just write 117% vote by mail.
02:43:09.000 When you type in, like on Twitter, for example, like if you put Trump in a hashtag, the things that populate underneath that.
02:43:17.000 Oh my god.
02:43:18.000 It's a sea.
02:43:19.000 Yeah, it's a sea of like Trump lied, Trump's evil, Trump the white supremacist.
02:43:24.000 But those are the ones that automatically populate.
02:43:26.000 Now, Project Veritas did a funny thing.
02:43:30.000 They were showing where they knew things were trending throughout the world.
02:43:36.000 Here in the United States, hundreds of thousands of retweets through this hashtag.
02:43:42.000 But none of it were going to automatically populate in a search under that same thing.
02:43:48.000 Well, there's a real problem with that, for sure.
02:43:50.000 The bias on social media is...
02:43:52.000 It's not just social media.
02:43:53.000 It's information searches.
02:43:55.000 I love my daughter Julia.
02:44:00.000 She was preparing.
02:44:01.000 I think she was 16 or 15. She was preparing for a debate.
02:44:05.000 She was getting information.
02:44:07.000 She was just Googling the stuff.
02:44:10.000 In college, we weren't allowed to do that.
02:44:13.000 Citing our sources, they had to be very specific in how that process works.
02:44:18.000 And, you know, when you do real research, she's like, well, Google's just giving me the information.
02:44:22.000 I was like, no, no, Google's just giving you the information that Google wants you to have.
02:44:26.000 She's like, but I'm just Google.
02:44:27.000 Like, she could not compute that the information that she was being given from a search, that it wasn't just a search.
02:44:33.000 Right.
02:44:34.000 And how do you explain to somebody that the information that they're reading isn't all of the real information?
02:44:40.000 It's only a portion.
02:44:41.000 It has to take, it takes a long time before you really digest that.
02:44:45.000 YouTube's another weird one where, like, kind of hot topic issues from an opposing idea, those get buried.
02:44:54.000 Well, how about all these doctors that were against this idea of the pandemic and the lockdown?
02:45:01.000 They were saying, we need herd immunity.
02:45:03.000 Like, real doctors.
02:45:04.000 And I don't agree with them.
02:45:05.000 I'm not saying that they're right.
02:45:07.000 But I'm saying that, like, they were all banned.
02:45:09.000 Some doctors are saying, we use hydroxychloroquine in Z-packs, and I've had amazing success treating patients.
02:45:16.000 Banned.
02:45:17.000 Video banned.
02:45:18.000 Dangerous information.
02:45:19.000 My own doctor said, hydroxychloroquine is fantastic if you catch it early.
02:45:25.000 He goes, it really stops the propagation of the disease if you catch it early.
02:45:31.000 A lot of doctors think that, but it becomes political.
02:45:34.000 Brendan Schaub, when he got COVID, you know what the doctor said to him?
02:45:36.000 He said, I don't know what your political leanings are, but I really believe in hydroxychloroquine.
02:45:41.000 He's like, what the fuck are you saying?
02:45:43.000 My political leanings?
02:45:44.000 How does it have anything to do with my health?
02:45:45.000 Exactly.
02:45:45.000 He goes, give me this shit that works.
02:45:47.000 I don't want to get sick.
02:45:48.000 He's like, I got COVID. And so he got on the hydroxychloroquine.
02:45:52.000 He was good in three days.
02:45:54.000 Like, you got the red pill and the blue pill, right?
02:45:56.000 And they're both crazy pills.
02:45:58.000 Can I just have what's in the middle?
02:46:00.000 You know, that rational, reasonable?
02:46:03.000 Give me a purple pill.
02:46:04.000 Yeah, this is a weird fucking time for everything.
02:46:07.000 You don't have to find that, Jamie, if you give up.
02:46:09.000 I found actually an article from two years ago explaining how that number was put out there.
02:46:16.000 It was recent.
02:46:17.000 It was a video.
02:46:17.000 She's talking about it.
02:46:18.000 I found it in the transcripts, but I'm trying to say that how they found out that there's 112% of the people that are registered to vote, there's an explanation for it.
02:46:27.000 Oh, okay.
02:46:28.000 It's like people move and they don't register.
02:46:30.000 Right, okay.
02:46:31.000 Update their address.
02:46:32.000 So her description of it, she's making it seem like it's fraud.
02:46:36.000 It's not fraud, it's just people that have already moved.
02:46:38.000 Her quote was like, it doesn't make sense, does it?
02:46:40.000 No, that doesn't make sense.
02:46:41.000 And then she just moves on.
02:46:42.000 So it's like, it's not that that's fraud.
02:46:43.000 So she's playing a little game.
02:46:45.000 Uh-oh.
02:46:45.000 Yeah.
02:46:46.000 That's what she does, yeah.
02:46:47.000 She's pretty good at it.
02:46:48.000 There's a whole thing going on today that Trump was being interviewed by Bob Woodward for his book.
02:46:53.000 Yes.
02:46:54.000 And back in February, he's downplaying...
02:46:55.000 Downplaying is the word that's going all over the internet.
02:46:58.000 He's downplaying the thing.
02:47:00.000 Yeah.
02:47:01.000 She then said he's not downplaying it.
02:47:04.000 When he's on tape saying, I'm downplaying it.
02:47:07.000 And now he's coming out saying, those words I used on tape are not the words I said.
02:47:12.000 It's like...
02:47:12.000 Huh?
02:47:13.000 What?
02:47:13.000 Didn't she, she said, there was also a thing where she was confronted by a press person about that, and she said, read the rest of his quote.
02:47:22.000 The rest of his quote, it wasn't just that, yes, I'm down, but because I don't want people to be in a panic about this, but I am concerned.
02:47:29.000 Like, there was an additional quote.
02:47:32.000 I heard the quote.
02:47:33.000 I wasn't even after I read it.
02:47:34.000 I heard the video, like, you could hear it.
02:47:35.000 Oh, let's play it.
02:47:36.000 You got it?
02:47:37.000 It's not ours to play.
02:47:38.000 Oh.
02:47:39.000 Oh, it's Bob Woodward's?
02:47:40.000 Like whoever's putting it out.
02:47:42.000 CNN, Bob Woodward.
02:47:43.000 But isn't it the Trump's words?
02:47:46.000 It's not marked tape.
02:47:47.000 This is where we could get into like...
02:47:49.000 Oh, okay.
02:47:49.000 I get it.
02:47:50.000 I get it.
02:47:50.000 I'm selling a book right now.
02:47:51.000 Right.
02:47:52.000 Oh, selling a book.
02:47:52.000 Bob Woodburn.
02:47:53.000 I'm just saying.
02:47:54.000 How's that guy still alive?
02:47:55.000 It's all confusing.
02:47:56.000 The Watergate guy?
02:47:57.000 Yeah.
02:47:57.000 Must be taking his vitamins.
02:47:58.000 How long has he got left?
02:48:00.000 Get that vitamin D. How old is that dude?
02:48:03.000 Must be old as fuck, right?
02:48:05.000 Yeah.
02:48:05.000 He was probably in his 40s back in...
02:48:07.000 Back then.
02:48:08.000 Yeah.
02:48:09.000 Oh, there you go.
02:48:10.000 So he's Biden.
02:48:11.000 No, that's the same age.
02:48:12.000 Okay, I think he's 78. Mm-hmm.
02:48:16.000 Crazy.
02:48:16.000 It is a different time, though.
02:48:17.000 People are living longer.
02:48:19.000 I know some 77-year-olds that you're like, look, Shane, my buddy, his dad, has a six-pack.
02:48:29.000 He's pushing 70. Really?
02:48:31.000 Jacked.
02:48:31.000 He's out there barefooting on the lake at 40 miles an hour.
02:48:36.000 He skis every single morning and all of his professional bull rider friends, they got gnarled hands from strapping into the bulls for so long, but they're still chunky shoulders, strained necks.
02:48:49.000 You're like, dude, how old are you?
02:48:51.000 You just look amazing.
02:48:53.000 I'm 41. I'm looking at these guys like, I'm going to look like this when I get this age.
02:48:57.000 Yeah, you can do that now.
02:48:59.000 In the old days...
02:49:00.000 Mike Tyson, man!
02:49:01.000 Yeah, dude.
02:49:02.000 Listen, man.
02:49:03.000 I had him on the podcast like 10 months ago, and then I had him on the podcast last week.
02:49:09.000 And that's two totally different human beings.
02:49:12.000 Yeah, that's a science project right there.
02:49:14.000 Really?
02:49:14.000 There's a lot going on.
02:49:15.000 But you can do that now.
02:49:17.000 Oh yeah, you can do that now.
02:49:18.000 Dude, he looks fucking terrifying.
02:49:20.000 Ready to go.
02:49:22.000 How old are you?
02:49:23.000 53. Okay, so I'm 41, 53. Do you know anybody that looked at Hewitt when you grew up that was 53?
02:49:29.000 No, they were all dead.
02:49:30.000 Right?
02:49:31.000 They weren't jacked.
02:49:32.000 Yeah, so I remember my dad's 40th birthday and all his 40-year-old friends were there.
02:49:37.000 And I have to talk disparagingly about my dad's friends.
02:49:41.000 But, you know, there were beer bellies, you know, and guys kind of hanging out talking war stories of, you know, their glory days and college athletics.
02:49:49.000 Now you look like my friends.
02:49:51.000 They're all 40s and you're like...
02:49:54.000 Pretty fit.
02:49:55.000 Jacked.
02:49:55.000 Yeah.
02:49:56.000 Jacked and fit.
02:49:56.000 Muscular, healthy, fast, you know, like the kids want to go play ball and they're like, yeah.
02:50:01.000 Try to keep up, boy.
02:50:03.000 Well, people know the benefit of exercise for overall health when you get older now.
02:50:09.000 Nobody fucking worked out in the 50s and 60s.
02:50:11.000 They barely worked.
02:50:12.000 They worked out if they were doing a sport.
02:50:14.000 And once they were doing the sport, they didn't do shit.
02:50:15.000 I'm going to be a freak until I die.
02:50:17.000 Yes, yes, yes.
02:50:18.000 All the way to the grave.
02:50:19.000 You're like, what is wrong with this guy's energy?
02:50:21.000 Why is he training so much?
02:50:23.000 I'm still going to have people come to Sheepdog Response.
02:50:25.000 This 70-year-old just outshot me.
02:50:28.000 Exactly.
02:50:28.000 Exactly.
02:50:28.000 Yeah, when people talk to me about like, you know, what supplements are you taking?
02:50:33.000 I'm like, all of them.
02:50:33.000 Whatever works.
02:50:34.000 What's working?
02:50:35.000 Tell me what works.
02:50:36.000 I'll get people on and tell me what's working.
02:50:37.000 I'll take that.
02:50:38.000 Yeah, what works?
02:50:39.000 What works?
02:50:40.000 I'm just trying to stay jacked.
02:50:42.000 I want to keep moving.
02:50:44.000 I want high libido.
02:50:45.000 I want high energy.
02:50:46.000 I want a ton of fun.
02:50:48.000 And I want people to be like, how do I keep up?
02:50:50.000 Rage.
02:50:51.000 Rage against the dying of the light.
02:50:54.000 I'm not going softly.
02:50:55.000 Fuck you.
02:50:55.000 Once more time into the fray, we'll go.
02:50:57.000 Yeah, I don't think you people know what it's like to be both.
02:51:01.000 Either people know what it's like to be tired and weak, or they know what it's like to be strong.
02:51:05.000 But when you've been both, when you really know where it can slide into, and the only way you know that is if you've been strong.
02:51:12.000 And most people never really get there.
02:51:14.000 But when you get strong and then maybe you get a little bit sick or maybe you get injured and you go, fuck, once this ACL heals up, I'm getting back after it.
02:51:21.000 I can't wait.
02:51:21.000 I feel so good.
02:51:23.000 Yes.
02:51:24.000 Yes.
02:51:26.000 I wasn't joking about the transformation.
02:51:31.000 Jamie, you need to come to one of these courses.
02:51:33.000 Jamie's going to be shooting people.
02:51:34.000 He's going to be busy.
02:51:35.000 Can you believe you have a gun?
02:51:38.000 You got one right there.
02:51:40.000 Well, I don't know about the shooting people, but we're dropping.
02:51:42.000 He's ready!
02:51:43.000 Yeah.
02:51:43.000 He's ready.
02:51:44.000 But, like, you get this contagious itch, you know, and, like, you scratch the surface, and then you see what's on the other side, and you're like, oh, and then you scratch a little bit more, and you see, like, how fun, and, like, food tastes better, sex is more fun, you know, like, work is easier.
02:51:59.000 Yeah.
02:52:00.000 Everything just gets better.
02:52:02.000 And then you're in.
02:52:04.000 Now you're hooked.
02:52:05.000 But that process is like a calloused hand, chunky ears.
02:52:12.000 But man.
02:52:14.000 It's worth it.
02:52:14.000 It's all worth it.
02:52:15.000 So good.
02:52:17.000 Fucking preach it.
02:52:18.000 Preach it.
02:52:18.000 Preach it from the rooftops.
02:52:20.000 But get that hate out.
02:52:21.000 Get the hate out.
02:52:22.000 Yeah, that does not help.
02:52:23.000 It doesn't help anything.
02:52:24.000 It doesn't help you either.
02:52:25.000 Solution oriented.
02:52:26.000 It's the only poison that kills the vessel that's containing it.
02:52:30.000 Yeah, I love that.
02:52:31.000 Yeah, it's fucking terrible for you.
02:52:34.000 And it erodes everything, physically, mentally.
02:52:36.000 I posted a picture on Instagram, and it was off of Andy Ngo.
02:52:42.000 He just took all the mug shots of everybody that had been arrested.
02:52:45.000 They all look like shit.
02:52:47.000 It's so bad.
02:52:48.000 I mean, bad skin, sunken eyes, weird hairlines, like multiple colors, you know, like...
02:52:56.000 Bad tattoos.
02:52:57.000 Every bad thing that you could see visually about a person was...
02:53:01.000 And a lot of people are like, it looks like they have some mental health issues.
02:53:05.000 And I don't know how you see mental health issues in people, but there is like...
02:53:09.000 You don't let yourself look like that unless there's a problem.
02:53:13.000 Do you see the video of the woman who was saying, I don't give a fuck that a fascist died tonight.
02:53:17.000 Did you ever see that video from Portland after the guy got shot and killed?
02:53:20.000 Oh, no.
02:53:21.000 I feel like a pear.
02:53:22.000 Big, fat, sloppy lady with fucking sweatpants on.
02:53:26.000 And I'm like, of course you don't care.
02:53:28.000 You don't even care about your own body.
02:53:29.000 You don't care about yourself.
02:53:30.000 You don't care about your life.
02:53:31.000 You found a microphone.
02:53:32.000 You got a microphone now and you're yelling it out because you've got a whole bunch of other losers who'd gathered together and you could say nonsense and they all cheer.
02:53:40.000 But I want all of those people on this side.
02:53:42.000 I feel sorry for her.
02:53:44.000 I pity her.
02:53:45.000 I want to go take her by the hand.
02:53:46.000 I want to walk a couple of blocks with her.
02:53:48.000 I want to pick a couple of meals for her.
02:53:50.000 Then I want to get up the next day and walk four blocks with her and then pick a few more meals with her.
02:53:54.000 And then everything starts getting better.
02:53:56.000 The problem is she'd have to let go and realize that she's wrong.
02:54:00.000 She'd have to let go of her hate.
02:54:01.000 Let go of her hate.
02:54:01.000 Let go of what she's done.
02:54:03.000 Let go of the path.
02:54:04.000 Let go of what you've done with your body, what you've done with your brain.
02:54:07.000 Let go of the path that you've been on and recognize you're a human being and you can change and learn and grow.
02:54:13.000 But you've got to recognize that this is cheering for someone who got murdered in the street.
02:54:17.000 You should be like, this is not what we're about.
02:54:19.000 This is all wrong.
02:54:20.000 Saying, I don't give a fuck if a fascist died tonight.
02:54:23.000 No, that guy who you think is a fascist is a human being.
02:54:26.000 He might have a child.
02:54:27.000 He might have a wife.
02:54:28.000 He definitely has a mom and a dad.
02:54:30.000 This is not right.
02:54:32.000 This is not how we're supposed to be.
02:54:33.000 We're supposed to be a community.
02:54:35.000 America's supposed to be a community.
02:54:37.000 And if we disagree or we agree, we're supposed to work it out.
02:54:40.000 We're not supposed to be shooting at each other in the streets over fucking nonsense.
02:54:43.000 And you're not supposed to be cheering about it with a bunch of other losers.
02:54:46.000 That's not what this is supposed to be about.
02:54:48.000 And no one is doing a goddamn thing about it in Portland.
02:54:51.000 They're just letting it go.
02:54:53.000 That fucking mayor is an idiot.
02:54:55.000 Jesus Christ, is he bad.
02:54:57.000 I loved Portland.
02:54:59.000 It's amazing.
02:55:00.000 Ten years ago.
02:55:01.000 I love visiting there.
02:55:02.000 I was there before the pandemic.
02:55:04.000 Really?
02:55:04.000 I did the Moda Center there.
02:55:05.000 It's fucking great there.
02:55:07.000 They have great food.
02:55:08.000 Fuck yeah, they got great everything.
02:55:10.000 They got food trucks.
02:55:11.000 The people are cool.
02:55:12.000 We run a course there a few times a year.
02:55:15.000 And we always loved...
02:55:16.000 Like, guys, the instructors are always like, I want to do the Portland one.
02:55:19.000 Because the B&Bs are cool.
02:55:21.000 You got all the water.
02:55:22.000 Everything's gorgeous.
02:55:23.000 All the food's fantastic.
02:55:25.000 And like...
02:55:26.000 Oregon, really the whole Northwest, Washington, Northern California, and Oregon, they're cool people.
02:55:33.000 They're kind of hippie, but also kind of about health and about freedom.
02:55:40.000 But they're also made a little progressive in some of their social ideas, but they want to be left alone.
02:55:44.000 So it's just a cool people.
02:55:46.000 And it's a ton of fun.
02:55:49.000 But now we're like, can we run a course in Portland?
02:55:52.000 Yeah.
02:55:52.000 It's a small amount of people, man.
02:55:55.000 It's a small percentage of the millions of people that live up there.
02:55:58.000 It's a small, loud, angry, fucked up group of people.
02:56:02.000 Well, the majority needs to step up.
02:56:04.000 And they're kind of trying.
02:56:06.000 They're trying.
02:56:07.000 There's a lot of people that are very upset about what's going on and trying to figure out some way to...
02:56:12.000 Get the mayor to act or get the state police to act or get someone to act.
02:56:16.000 It's more than 100 days of protest now.
02:56:18.000 I love the lawsuits that are starting to pop up by business owners.
02:56:22.000 What was the district in Seattle where they're like...
02:56:26.000 Oh yeah, Chaz.
02:56:29.000 A bunch of people are suing the city and the state for not providing the services that they had by taxes and legislation they're supposed to have.
02:56:41.000 So their businesses were burnt.
02:56:43.000 All because they're saying that the local government was complicit in letting these things happen by not protecting, by not having police come and say, nope, you can't do this.
02:56:53.000 There's a law that prohibits you from, because a guy has a cell phone and you don't know who that guy is, you don't get to go beat him.
02:57:00.000 I don't have control of this business, so I'm going to go smash the windows and burn it down.
02:57:05.000 All those things are happening within that Chaz.
02:57:08.000 We're like, well, there's laws against that, right?
02:57:10.000 That's arson and that's assault.
02:57:12.000 But you guys weren't enforcing any of these.
02:57:14.000 So the lawsuit is that these people are complicit.
02:57:16.000 And it's like, it's going to be, one of them was a father of a murdered kid is suing the, I think the city of Seattle for allowing that to happen.
02:57:29.000 Wow.
02:57:30.000 Heavy stuff.
02:57:31.000 That's heavy.
02:57:32.000 Yeah.
02:57:32.000 There's rule of law for a reason.
02:57:34.000 Security, stability.
02:57:35.000 There is.
02:57:35.000 It's like, you know, this is a funny thing that Trump does where he tweets, law and order, all the time.
02:57:41.000 Like every few days, law and order, all caps.
02:57:43.000 But he's right.
02:57:43.000 You need that.
02:57:45.000 That's how you have safety.
02:57:46.000 That's how you have peace.
02:57:48.000 What's that movie where you get like a knight to go crazy?
02:57:52.000 The Purge.
02:57:53.000 Oh, yeah.
02:57:53.000 Yeah.
02:57:55.000 Tell me that didn't inspire a lot of these fucks.
02:57:57.000 It did.
02:57:58.000 For sure.
02:58:00.000 You actually see tactics that were used in that movie being used.
02:58:06.000 Sometimes Hollywood is more real than fiction.
02:58:11.000 That's what happened.
02:58:12.000 They took what they were watching and were like, we can go and do this.
02:58:17.000 No, you can't.
02:58:18.000 And don't try it in Texas.
02:58:20.000 No.
02:58:21.000 That's a terrible idea.
02:58:22.000 That's a bad idea.
02:58:23.000 Especially what you were saying about all the special ops guys that are here.
02:58:26.000 So many.
02:58:27.000 Yeah, I enjoy the cigars.
02:58:28.000 They had another...
02:58:29.000 Yeah, everybody loves you.
02:58:34.000 It's funny.
02:58:35.000 Thanks, man.
02:58:35.000 I love them too.
02:58:37.000 Listen, dude, we're already more than three hours in here.
02:58:40.000 Holy crap!
02:58:41.000 Believe that?
02:58:42.000 How fast did time fly?
02:58:44.000 I don't know.
02:58:44.000 I was looking at that skull and being like, that was pretty...
02:58:47.000 Yeah.
02:58:47.000 It was a white-tailed deer I shot in Idaho.
02:58:50.000 Or Iowa, rather.
02:58:51.000 My friend John Dudley's property.
02:58:55.000 Delicious.
02:58:56.000 If that guy ever comes around, can I just watch him?
02:58:57.000 Yes!
02:58:58.000 Shoot a bow.
02:58:58.000 I'll have him talk to you.
02:59:00.000 I'll have him teach you.
02:59:01.000 Cameron Haynes, too.
02:59:02.000 He'd be happy to.
02:59:03.000 Yeah, both those guys.
02:59:03.000 They'll be here.
02:59:04.000 Cam will be here next week if you want to hang out with him.
02:59:07.000 We're shooting.
02:59:09.000 You're invited.
02:59:11.000 We're shooting Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
02:59:15.000 So...
02:59:15.000 Well, when Dudley's here, and he will be here, I will set it up.
02:59:20.000 Have you shot a bow before?
02:59:21.000 Yeah, I hunt with a bow.
02:59:22.000 Okay, you hunt with a bow.
02:59:23.000 That's right.
02:59:24.000 Okay, cool.
02:59:25.000 Yeah, I'll have him help you, give you some pointers and shit.
02:59:27.000 He'll fucking tighten groups up like that.
02:59:30.000 He's awesome.
02:59:31.000 I appreciate you, brother.
02:59:33.000 Thank you very much for being here.
02:59:34.000 Yeah, I'm glad you're here.
02:59:37.000 Couldn't be happier.
02:59:38.000 You just gotta start saying yes to some of those invites.
02:59:40.000 Okay, I will.
02:59:42.000 Weather's dropping.
02:59:43.000 Helicopters gonna be flying.
02:59:44.000 I was just overwhelmed.
02:59:46.000 Well, we had to put this fucking place together.
02:59:48.000 I had to move in.
02:59:48.000 There was a lot going on.
02:59:50.000 I mean, I literally decided to move and was moved in in a month.
02:59:54.000 That's insane.
02:59:54.000 Yeah.
02:59:55.000 So cool.
02:59:55.000 Yeah.
02:59:56.000 Bought a house in less than a month.
02:59:58.000 I was like, let's do it.
02:59:59.000 Let's go.
03:00:00.000 As soon as my wife and kids were in, I was like, let's fucking go.
03:00:04.000 Yeah.
03:00:05.000 And it all coincided with the podcast moving to Spotify, which was crazy.
03:00:09.000 They thought it was crazy.
03:00:09.000 Like, what are you doing?
03:00:11.000 And I'm like, let's fucking party.
03:00:13.000 Let's have some fun, man.
03:00:14.000 Let's make it rad.
03:00:15.000 I'm going to Texas.
03:00:16.000 All right.
03:00:16.000 Thank you, Tim Kennedy.
03:00:17.000 My pleasure.
03:00:17.000 Appreciate you, brother.
03:00:18.000 God bless.
03:00:18.000 Goodbye, everybody.