On this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe and Bridget talk about the dangers of hydrochloric acid (aka hydroxychloroquine) and how it can kill you. They also talk about how to deal with it and how to get over it. Joe also talks about how he got into yoga and meditations and how they changed his life. Bridget talks about her new job as a physical therapist and how she's going to help save the world with hydrochloridioidocadrenous (aka COID) and what she's doing to combat it and why she thinks it's a good idea to get into yoga, yoga, meditation, and breathing exercises. They also discuss how to treat it and what it can do to your body and brain. And they talk about what it's like to be a doctor in California and how much money it takes to get the job you want to get a job in California. Thanks for listening and Happy New Year and Happy Holidays! -Joe Rogan Thank you for listening, Bridget Cheers, Joe <3 -J.R. Check it out! -Bridget J. Rogan Podcast by Day, by Night, All Day, All Night, By Night, all day, All day, by night, by day, All day all day by night. -The Joe Rogans Experience by Night Podcast by Night - The J. R. Experience by Day - By Night - All Day All Day by Night All Day by Night by Night J.RJ.J. Rogans Podcast By Night by Day J.O.P.POD by Day by Day By Night J/A.S. , All Day J/R.O., All Day By Day, By Day by By Night By Night The J/N/A/A Night, All Day/By Night, by Day/All Day, J/O/A TH/A? , By Night/A Day/A Weekend, All-Day J/B/A by Night/By Day, A Day/Night, By Any Day/Day, By Evening, By Morning, By Sleepy/AURORA/By Any Means? - By Anytime J/S/A & All Day? , What's a Good Day/Late By Night?
00:01:10.000I've taught yoga and I always said if you had to choose all the different parts of that practice, if I had to tell somebody just to do one, it would be the breathing exercises are the best.
00:01:22.000There's something about it, too, that you don't realize how shallow your breath is most of the day until you sit down.
00:01:46.000That's why I love that I was mentioning last time I was on Sam Harris' meditations because they have you reflecting on your own consciousness.
00:01:54.000It's like, notice, pay attention to where you're paying attention.
00:01:59.000It's so trippy and I'll get it in my head and the next thing I know I'm like, this is like taking acid.
00:02:41.000We had a friend whose boyfriend's brother died of it, and he got it, but he was sick for two weeks, and his wife was like, please go, and he didn't because he's a dude.
00:02:54.000And then he went and found out that he had diabetes or something.
00:02:59.000He didn't even know he had it, and so he was compromised, and it was really tragic and sad.
00:03:04.000Well, a nurse was telling us, how harsh is she?
00:03:25.000I was talking to my physical therapist, and he is married to an Italian woman, so they were hearing all the stories from Italy, and then all the whole thing about hydrochloroquine came out.
00:03:40.000Hydroxychloroquine, however the hell you say it.
00:03:44.000And he had been hearing from the people in Italy that this was kind of working and it was helping.
00:03:51.000So after Trump said it was helping, he was trying to get some on the west side and he's like, all these motherfuckers who are talking shit about it, you couldn't get it anywhere on the west side of LA. Every rich person in LA went out and bought it and then was like,
00:04:06.000oh, we shouldn't be listening to this.
00:04:09.000He's like, but you couldn't get it anywhere.
00:04:10.000Well, my doctor told me that people are not taking it because they hate Trump.
00:05:48.000If you're a reasonable person, especially if you're someone like you or I, who has a platform and you're reasonable, and there's a lot of people listening, and then people are like, wow, she's actually got some good points.
00:06:26.000It's really wild watching the hatred that people who are...
00:06:34.000So the other day I saw, I'll say something like, I've heard, because I put out an article, and it was like, why I'm not voting for the president.
00:07:54.000They used to be my favorite source of news.
00:07:56.000And now, when you see Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo talking about white people and how white people have every advantage, like, why don't you have an education?
00:09:05.000But the fact that you could say that on CNN, you could say something ridiculously biased and in a gross generalization on CNN, as long as you're saying it about the right people, whether you're mocking all Trump supporters and being dumb.
00:09:39.000What is this weird voodoo in the air that's forcing people to comply?
00:09:42.000I think one of the things that really was surprising to me that I'm hearing from a lot of people, and in my next column I kind of talk about this, is like the mainstream media inadvertently red-pilled a huge sector of America during the pandemic.
00:10:44.000And so, yeah, I keep hearing this from people that that was, you know, I don't even think it was a protest because I think most people are actually on board, especially around George Floyd.
00:11:00.000Someone should have stepped up, though.
00:11:02.000Some mayor should have stepped up and said, I am with you, but we are going to have a real problem with health if we just all gather in a street like this.
00:12:23.000Climate change is the biggest one on the right where they just full on try to deny climate change and it's a part of the narrative of the ideology of the right.
00:12:32.000There's a lot of people that just deny the narrative of climate change.
00:12:35.000There are young Republicans who are changing this though.
00:12:40.000And you should have some of them on because they're young.
00:13:06.000But they're out there and they're pushing back against that and they have some really cool things that are going on.
00:13:11.000Well, that's good because there does need to be some pushback.
00:13:13.000The problem with the narrative on the right is that they're so pro-business that they're willing to sacrifice some environmental standards and people see the repercussions of that.
00:13:23.000They're like, hey, listen, I understand that you want people to be able to work and you want people to make a living and you want to raise a standard and trickle down economics and all that shit, but you can't Sacrifice the fucking environment right like that should be a no-brainer first do no harm right like a doctor first do no harm and that you're doing harm like you can't make money while you're polluting like that's that's not good for anybody's future yeah they're seeing this in in areas where that you know I think it was reading like the Louisiana belt
00:13:53.000there's like tons of instances of more COVID mortality and they like chemical alley where all those fucking chemical plants are And that's the kind of untold cause and effect that we need to pay more attention to.
00:14:08.000This is why I hate when these things...
00:15:00.000There's a really terrible video that's going around right now that people are using as evidence that cops are racist because they didn't shoot this white guy who wound up shooting and killing a cop in Oklahoma.
00:15:15.000Every time I drink coffee with cream, I say, I'm not going to do that again because I do it on the podcast and then I get phlegm and I have to...
00:20:04.000I really like the great American novel.
00:20:07.000Twitter's also giving you a very large following.
00:20:10.000That's how, I mean, I knew you from your store, but I really got into your shit because of Twitter.
00:20:14.000Yeah, no, I think you can tell pretty quickly about someone on Twitter.
00:20:19.000I think it's the best social media for seeing who someone is because everyone, no one's afraid to be kind of their piece of shit self on Twitter.
00:20:27.000It's the most honest, I think, of social medias because it's primarily a battle of the wits.
00:25:30.000The temptation to alter your face like that is, I guess, if you see some of the success stories, like some of the other Kardashians that have done it and it worked out awesome.
00:26:34.000When I went on that carnivore diet, one of the reasons I got up to like 205 pounds, which for me is kind of fat.
00:26:39.000I was getting a belly and I was getting these love handles and we did this weigh-in thing for Sober October and people were like, look at your belly.
00:30:11.000Like, if there's something that's openly racist and represents one of the worst aspects of our country's history, like, how do you treat it?
00:30:35.000Instead of taking them down and smashing them, wouldn't it be interesting if there was a place you could go where you could see all of them?
00:30:41.000But then people would go and be like, we need to put these back!
00:31:06.000And sometimes people just feel like they just want to pull them down.
00:31:08.000This is another thing that's going on right now.
00:31:10.000This is the perfect storm, the convergence of all these different things that are happening at the same time, and one of them being the COVID lockdown.
00:31:18.000Social media, the COVID lockdown, the polarization of our country with Trump, and then, you know, this weird thing where everybody has to pretend that Biden isn't dying.
00:32:51.000And then someone from the New York Times said...
00:32:54.000That is a widely debunked conspiracy theory that he's slipping into dementia.
00:33:00.000And I said, okay, I said may or may not, and can you post, like, cite your source for where this has been debunked so that my, like, people reading this thread can see it.
00:33:10.000And this New York Times researcher, writer, says, well, I've seen him speaking, and that's just what I gather.
00:33:47.000No, that's actually a really interesting thought experiment.
00:33:51.000Well, this is where this bizarre bias comes into play, and this is where everybody's getting gaslit, because they're pretending that everything's okay, because all they want to do is get Trump out of office.
00:34:01.000But in doing that, you're exposing this very bizarre tendency that people have to comply.
00:37:46.000But it was so clear that this is a person who's saying the things that he thinks you're supposed to say to signal that you're on this team.
00:39:19.000So he retweeted it, and my cousin calls me, she's like, our comments on YouTube are like, insane people defending Trump.
00:39:28.000They couldn't get past two minutes of us making, the next segment we make fun of Biden, and then proceed to make fun of Nancy Pelosi and everything else, but they could not get past two minutes of us making fun of Dear Leader.
00:41:55.000Like, if you get enough of these troll accounts that they literally hire to post pro-Trump things and anti-Biden things and memes and all these things, like, it catches people up in the wave and they want to be a part of that group of people that's piling on against Biden and piling on for Trump.
00:42:13.000And a lot of it, like, there was one...
00:42:56.000Where it's something random, you're like, why is this trending?
00:42:58.000And it's something anti-Biden or sowing dissent, and it's always spelled wrong, and it's just like, oh, Russia's logged in for their work day.
00:44:10.000For some reason, and he made some comment about it that was smart, but it wasn't necessarily like, you know, A to B logic, because he's like 12. And people, adults, were commenting and yelling at him, and I'm like, oh, this is why I'm never going to argue with someone I don't know on Twitter again,
00:44:27.000because they might be 12. It might be a 12-year-old.
00:44:40.000Yeah, this is a Washington Post report of yesterday.
00:44:47.000Apparently they're being paid and then when asked, this is the quote from the CEO of the company.
00:44:52.000Real kids operating their real social media profiles and promoting mainstream American values.
00:44:57.000Jake Hoffman, President and CEO of Rally Forge, said in an emailed statement Wednesday that the posts were nothing more than, in his quote, real kids operating real social media profiles and promoting mainstream American values.
00:45:12.000He said, what these young Arizona activists are doing is honest and sincere political activism in the 21st century and in the age of COVID-19, whose firm was linked by the Post to the Turning Point Project.
00:46:15.000I've thought of like starting an anonymous account and just saying all the things I really feel and just going to war with people on Twitter.
00:47:56.000It's because we're in the most polarized, the most ideologically based time ever in terms of like you have a side, you stick with it, you battle against the other side.
00:48:06.000And I see this from smart people and it drives me crazy.
00:48:09.000It drives me crazy because I'm like, I know you're smart because I know you're educated.
00:48:13.000I know you know a lot of facts, but you are so fucking stupid about human nature.
00:48:19.000To behave like this because you're denying the very thing that literally has made us racist, the very thing that's made us go to war, tribalism.
00:49:01.000I mean, Jonah Goldberg wrote this amazing book, Suicide of the West, and he talks about all of this, essentially how the Enlightenment, and we just stumbled on this miracle.
00:49:13.000I'm like, if anyone in America should read anything, it should just be the appendix of his book, which is all the stats of how much humanity has been lifted out of the dirt.
00:49:23.000And we've lifted up, even in developing world, everybody's doing...
00:49:28.000Yeah, there's problems, obviously, but everybody overall...
00:49:31.000It's never been more convenient and easier for humans to just exist.
00:49:37.000And I sometimes feel like, is this just humans, because they're not fighting and trying to survive, they're self-destructing and having to create that reality for themselves?
00:50:21.000But this is part of the problem with social media.
00:50:24.000It's like the problems that you have today are big to you because you do not have big problems.
00:50:29.000And when you have big problems, if you have someone in your family that you love that's dying or sick, someone calling you a fuckhead on Twitter doesn't mean anything to you.
00:50:38.000But when you don't have that, and then you're like, hey, fuck you!
00:50:41.000That Twitter comment is the thing that gets you.
00:50:45.000And that gets you out of bed, and you check the comments and see, what else did they say?
00:51:15.000It's not, a lot of the conflict, and I was saying this on Twitter the other day, I'm like, I'll be worried about America when no one can tweet.
00:51:22.000Like, you're all tweeting, and you're online bitching about something or other.
00:51:26.000When you have, like you said, when you have somebody, for instance, a cancer diagnosis.
00:51:30.000Someone in my life recently thought they were diagnosed with cancer, but they weren't.
00:51:34.000For that 24 hours, you realize that is your life now.
00:51:38.000Well, that's how I felt at the beginning of COVID. The beginning of the lockdown, I really thought it was going to be like September 11th.
00:51:45.000Like when September 11th came around, everybody joined up.
00:51:48.000We all got together because we all realized like, hey, all this petty bullshit is not important.
00:51:52.000What's really important is we got to fucking band together because we're going to run out of toilet paper and food because there's a disease coming that's going to kill everybody.
00:51:59.000And then when that didn't happen, it's like it ramped up the other way.
00:53:06.000It was hard for me because I'm sober, and I'm on threads with my very Irish Catholic family, and for the first couple weeks, it was just pictures of their booze stockpiles, which I 100% would have done if I was...
00:53:18.000Back in my drinking days before even water, it would have been booze.
00:56:09.000This white guy walking on the street and for no reason this black kid runs up behind him and hits him in the head with a brick.
00:56:17.000The guy face plants and the people that are filming it are in a car and they're laughing while the brick hits the guy and the guy face plants on the concrete.
00:57:34.000A lot of these things are just online videos that go viral.
00:57:38.000Yeah, yeah, but I think that so much of the division and that picking narratives, they're driving narratives.
00:57:49.000And I and people are obviously kind of partaking in this but I still think that it's we when I first like you said about the early days of the pandemic I thought the same thing because you would go out and there was you have this kind of like you'd like you have your mask on or whatever you walk and people were out walking because they couldn't go to the gym or anything and there would be that you kind of look at each other with that solidarity there's that feeling of like yeah we're in this yeah And it was only two weeks later before people
00:59:55.000But when something challenges us and we don't have character and we don't have a history of overcoming issues and we don't have tools in terms of like whether it's exercise or meditation or yoga or whatever you do to alleviate tension.
01:00:09.000And then you have the fucking gasoline, which is social media.
01:00:13.000And you're throwing gasoline on your fire instead of figuring out a way to put out the coals.
01:00:30.000Because people, I feel like, are losing their manners.
01:00:33.000I've heard from many people, and my sister texted me, she said, I just saw a real-life Facebook fight at dinner.
01:00:40.000And it was like, and someone else texted me, and he said, I just saw a real-life Twitter interaction in the grocery store.
01:00:47.000So this behavior that generally is relegated to the way we are when we're anonymous or not anonymous online with each other that you would never necessarily be if you were face-to-face, Because everybody's been online, it's like they're starting to behave that way in real life.
01:04:08.000And I put a rubber band on and I did that stupid thing, but it totally worked where if I was like, there's something wrong with my lip and I'd snap my rubber band and I'd be like, I'm healthy.
01:04:18.000I would just replace it with I am healthy.
01:05:30.000I was too poor to really lean fully into my hypochondria that way.
01:05:35.000And I just had to stop myself from the action because anytime you have a thought and you act on it, it reinforces that connection, that mind-body connection, and it would reinforce that pattern of worrying.
01:05:51.000I kept, this is very, I guess too, it's very like CBT, so cognitive behavioral therapy.
01:05:57.000I didn't know this is kind of what I was doing, but I would keep, now they have very, it's like you keep a record, what they call a thought log.
01:06:05.000And I would just document when I had the thought, what brought it up, like what triggered that thought, because there's always kind of a trigger, and then what action I took and what action I could take to replace it.
01:06:17.000And so I, sometimes it's just not acting on it at all.
01:06:20.000And then I started working with therapists on all the things that were underpinning those, the triggering thoughts.
01:08:33.000Yeah, that's an answer people don't want to hear though because it requires effort.
01:08:36.000And it requires, like, as much as it's difficult when you're sitting down in front of a computer to overcome procrastination and write, multiply that times 10 and it's getting to the gym.
01:08:47.000Because the physical discomfort of, you're like, oh...
01:09:35.000And then he actually says, he said those thoughts into a tape recorder or a phone or whatever the fuck it is and then listened to it play back.
01:09:43.000And he's like, I sounded like a straight bitch!
01:10:34.000That was something that was revered, and I feel like in our society now, because victimhood has become currency, no warrior in the fucking world would ever want to be considered a victim.
01:10:48.000And it's important that I think people like David and you and just to really embrace that spirit and try and promote it because ultimately it feels better to work against your worst instincts.
01:11:11.000This is the other thing that I love about, there's this great book, Tiny Habits, and it's all about bundling habits and how you don't have to start every day and say, I'm going to start working out every day an hour.
01:12:15.000Because you're making fun of things that are preposterous.
01:12:17.000And as soon as you can't make fun of things that are preposterous, Like, we were talking before about this Vice thing that was written about transphobic episodes of this podcast, and one of the things that they wrote was that I incorrectly described how Caitlyn Jenner transitioned,
01:13:30.000Imagine you're going in and they're like, you're killing babies!
01:13:34.000And it's like, I just wanted to get a margarita.
01:13:37.000And we were making all these jokes and I was like, God, it feels so good to just be able to joke freely because I feel like the world has become just a floor of eggshells and everyone's walking on eggshells all the time.
01:13:52.000Because many people are dealing with mental illness and that's what it's like when you're dealing with Mentally ill people are constantly walking on eggshells.
01:14:01.000But I always say to comedians, I'm like, don't die on the content of the joke.
01:14:42.000And he's doing it by grossly, ridiculously exaggerating something so crazy.
01:14:48.000Yeah, that's why I get mad when comedians are like, you who are...
01:14:54.000Shitting on other comedians, when I see other comedians going after other comedians for their jokes, I'm like, what the fuck is happening here?
01:15:14.000Some of them are good comics that do it erroneously.
01:15:17.000But the thing that they're doing, they're doing because there's a feeling inside you that always feels bad that you don't reach the high marks.
01:15:26.000There's like a thing where you don't quite, and then you see someone step out of line.
01:15:40.000And he said, when someone tells a joke that kills or someone says a joke that offends people and doesn't work, it all comes in the same place.
01:15:49.000And that place is you're trying to be funny.
01:17:34.000When I would tell a joke outside of sex, I really didn't know what was funny.
01:17:39.000I knew certain things were funny with sex, so I had those jokes.
01:17:44.000But if I would tell a joke about something else, I was just swinging at the wind.
01:17:48.000I love the process of finding what's funny, though.
01:17:51.000Even though it's uncomfortable and awkward, I was trying to get this bit where I was talking about how my dad sat me down to have an awkward conversation about freezing my eggs.
01:19:17.000This idea that the path that everybody takes is the path you have to have.
01:19:20.000There's something about it that used to infuriate me when I was younger, where people with children would tell you you have to have a child.
01:20:43.000There's so many kids who need good parents and I feel so, I am truly like that woo kind of hippie chick who's like, I'm right where I should be.
01:20:57.000You're right, considering especially your past, you are right where you should be.
01:21:00.000Yeah, and considering, I mean, even just this whole trip to Texas has been so informative because I went to go, I went through the process of looking at houses just to see, found out all this stuff, but really I was like, oh, I can buy a house.
01:21:16.000That was an amazing moment for me because I went bankrupt when I was 26 and I have worked really hard to, I had to like repair my credit.
01:21:26.000I had to get a little baby $300 a month card that I paid off in full and you know I had to focus on that shit and I feel it was a nice moment to be like okay alright I can see the path forward and so many times in my life When I thought I wanted something,
01:21:44.000I really wanted to write for Maxim when I was 23. I recently found the proposal.
01:21:49.000But I was like, yeah, I was such a boy's girl.
01:21:56.000I moved a lot, and the guys were always nice to me, and they always let me in their clubs.
01:22:00.000So I was at poker nights and bachelorette parties and all that shit where women generally weren't allowed.
01:22:06.000And I had access to just the male brain, and they felt comfortable being their disgusting selves around me, and I didn't judge them for it.
01:22:17.000So I was like, I need to write for Maxim.
01:23:04.000The story, I think about the long fucking road that has been to even, and so I didn't get that, but then I ended up writing for Playboy, which was even better.
01:23:14.000It was on the internet, you know, and I wanted to write for Maxim.
01:23:17.000We only had magazines, and it was much bigger than I could have imagined, but in the same space.
01:23:24.000And so, you know, there might be another better thing.
01:23:45.000It's just because there's something better or you're a jerk.
01:23:52.000Well, I've always felt like it just means whatever it is, whether you're rejected for a job or either you're not good enough or the system's fucked.
01:24:06.000One of those things is, well, there's a lot of people that get jobs that do not deserve them, and people that do deserve those jobs don't get them.
01:24:21.000There's a lot of people, like when you were telling people, remember my name, there's a lot of people that really believe there's something that they're not.
01:24:27.000And the only way to find out that you are not that person is to be defeated.
01:24:31.000And that's one of the reasons why I think martial arts is so important for men.
01:24:34.000Because men have it in their head, this ridiculous idea that there's something that they're not.
01:24:38.000And the best way to find out that you are something that you're not is to get squashed.
01:24:47.000Well, anyone who gets good at jiu-jitsu has been fucking manhandled for a long time.
01:24:53.000And to reach a black belt in jiu-jitsu, or even a purple belt, which is what Andrew Yang thinks every police officer should be, and I think so too.
01:25:41.000I was telling this story today with Colin just about how I was so delusional and I went bankrupt.
01:25:47.000I started Phetasy.com because it was greeting cards and t-shirts.
01:25:53.000I had this great idea and then I had no business acumen and I drove around America Highest gas prices ever in America, I think, to this day for six months.
01:26:03.000And I was like selling t-shirts on the beach, telling people like, yo, remember this?
01:26:34.000I go to pay with my credit card and they're like, we don't take credit cards because Costco, they only take like that one kind American Express or I think it's changed now, Visa or something.
01:26:42.000So they only took one and they wouldn't take it.
01:26:44.000And then we just had to like abandon...
01:26:47.000Why did I think that dry erase boards was the thing that I needed in that moment, spending $600?
01:26:54.000And I do tell young people who come to me for advice, I'm like, you have to kind of be a little delusional in a creative path in particular, because The difference between delusions and dreams is hard work.
01:27:13.000You're delusional if you're sitting in your mom's basement and you're like, I'm going to do this and you're never doing anything.
01:27:19.000But you do need a little bit of overachieving delusion to kind of push yourself...
01:27:46.000But a lot of them, they start out bad, but they have these moments where they get laughs.
01:27:53.000If you could figure out what happened there and then take those embers and blow on them and use it and figure out how to recreate that and then figure out how to get better at it, it can be done.
01:28:04.000But you also have to be ruthlessly introspective.
01:28:08.000And that is a thing that most people are not willing to do.
01:28:12.000Most people want to protect themselves from their failures and they want to pretend that it was other people's fault or people were plotting against them or, you know, how come it always happens to them or he gets all the breaks and all these...
01:28:24.000All that shit does you zero good and just pushes people away from you.
01:28:28.000It creates the exact opposite amount of...
01:28:32.000The exact opposite kind of energy that you need to be successful.
01:28:35.000What you need to be successful is pain.
01:30:43.000They had made some deal where Bill Burr was performing, who's a god.
01:30:49.000And then there was just a bunch of nobodies who they had arranged that would kind of just open for him, basically, so that he could do his hour that he was testing.
01:31:25.000There's also the thing where you know that someone who's going on after you is just way better than you, and you just start judging your act and judging all of your material.
01:36:38.000Just so, I mean, that opening to the most recent one, The Sticks and Stones, it's just how he manages to bring it back to the Anthony Bourdain thing, and then he's like, and this guy, I mean, he's just a master.
01:36:55.000You see somebody who's so gifted at that.
01:39:03.000Like, if you find out that a fan who loved you but was overweight and they came to see you and they got COVID and died after your show, like, fuck.
01:47:31.000I could feel myself not wanting to say things and that's why I just was like, fuck it.
01:47:34.000I'm saying whatever I want on Twitter.
01:47:37.000I'll pay the consequences, whatever they might be, and I'm not going to censor myself.
01:47:42.000I have the whole theory on Twitter, if you get a lot of followers for one tweet, you have to immediately tweet something that's the opposite so that you can weed out all the zealots and ideologues because that's the only way to purify your following from the radicals.
01:50:52.000Do you believe in any kind of psychic powers?
01:50:55.000I think it is likely that there are evolving senses that we are aware of and that we recognize, but that no one in this current state of evolution has a handle on how to control them.
01:51:12.000I think there are moments when you think about people and they call you.
01:51:15.000I think there are times when you know someone's lying.
01:51:17.000There's a feeling you get when you know someone secretly hates you.
01:51:55.000And you're basically, when you're talking to me, when you and I are talking and you're speaking with your language, you're making sounds Yeah.
01:52:23.000Because you're forcing me to accept your definition of what these sounds mean and what that means in terms of what the actual context of it is and what the intent is behind these sounds.
01:53:37.000The researchers were calling it telepathine until they realized that, you know, due to the rules of scientific nomenclature, it had already been established that was harming.
01:53:48.000But they were calling it telepathine because through this compound, people were having these shared experiences without talking.
01:53:57.000And then when they relayed these experiences, they were actually communicating without talking.
01:54:01.000And they were saying, there's a type of telepathy that's possible with this drug.
01:54:06.000I think we are becoming something, and if we don't interfere, we probably will technologically and with Neuralink and all these other crazy things.
01:54:16.000If we don't interfere, I think we will ultimately become more and more in tune with that, our ability to sense things and communicate non-verbally and read each other non-verbally.
01:54:42.000My best friend and I have always had that psychic connection and we just thought the adults weren't witches like we were and that they sucked.
01:54:50.000So we always developed it, and to this day I can be like, call me Sarah telepathically, and she will, literally within a day, it feels like I'll hear from her randomly.
01:55:02.000It's just that we intuitively know when we need each other.
01:55:07.000I worked with autistic kids for a while, one of my many jobs, and I kind of have a weird theory that Yeah.
01:55:34.000Things that didn't make any sense, like my one example, I was working with a kid and he was nonverbal.
01:55:39.000And we were in the playroom and he was, you know, he kept, he was obsessed with flies.
01:55:44.000He would get obsessed with different things at different times.
01:55:47.000And he would look up and then look back and look up and he was in his, we were like locked.
01:56:18.000And that was just one of the, I mean, there were so many moments like that with all these different kids where I'm like, they're tapped into something else.
01:56:26.000And if you lived in a world and say you had a sixth sense, say that you lived in a world where nobody could see and you were the only person who could see.
01:56:34.000You'd be banging your fucking head on the wall too if you could see and everyone was like, what are you talking about?
01:56:41.000So sometimes I wonder if it's not, they're not, like you're saying, maybe the brain is evolving and we're just catching, it just doesn't fit in society.
01:56:50.000So they're feeling, because there's a lot I don't know.
01:57:33.000Everyone's in fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, everywhere.
01:57:36.000And that drives so much of this behavior that we're seeing, like tribalism and trying to be a tyrant and rule over people and feeling like you have to stop anything that...
01:59:09.000We're so much more capable of expressing ourselves.
01:59:13.000We're so much more occupied with tasks and things, whether it's information or computers or TV or different people that we're talking to constantly, that the mind is overwhelmed.
01:59:28.000How much time do you spend in the woods?
02:00:03.000And there's something about that painful evolution that all the plants and animals had to undergo that just speaks to me and just even the harsh, I mean, it's like nine o'clock in the morning, you're like, it's so hot, you're like, I'm gonna die.
02:00:19.000And it's also, it doesn't care about you.
02:00:21.000This ecosystem has existed long before you were ever here, and it's all working together.
02:00:27.000The bugs are working with the lizards, with the snakes, and the plants, and the little water that there is, and the coyotes, and all this shit is working together.
02:00:39.000I mean, that's the thing that I feel like people are losing when they're looking down into these demonic boxes all day long is that connection to, you know, having your feet kind of being made of mud but also made of stars, that famous quote I'm butchering.
02:01:04.000I'm not even high and I can experience that trip.
02:01:08.000We aren't separate from, I'm not looking at the stars.
02:01:12.000It's like I'm part of that crazy and we're all just, it's such a miracle that we're here in this time and space and it's such a wild trip and we have more than we've ever had in the history of humans and we're wasting it,
02:02:09.000Like, yeah, there's a lot of, like, real clear ones.
02:02:13.000But when it comes to whether it's government or behavior or ideology or any of the things that we hold so rigid, I think it's really dangerous.
02:02:25.000It's really dangerous to look at things the way we look at things, to have these non-pliable opinions.
02:04:10.000And I would hate myself because I think by the time you get there, in order to even maneuver, you have to sell yourself out so many times that you don't even know...
02:04:19.000Well, you think about how many people are just waiting to attack anybody who's running for president.
02:05:17.000They take you and they take away your phone and they keep you in a hotel room and they just bring you place to place and no one gets to talk to you.
02:06:36.000I had had enough shit prior to 23 that...
02:06:42.000Yeah, but you were still hopeful that these sort of airy-fairy, idealistic notions of what should be done with our culture, that this would work.
02:06:53.000And with no understanding of economics, no understanding of...
02:08:19.000You know, gay rights or trans rights or civil rights or women's rights or anytime you want to stop people from doing something that literally has nothing to do with you.
02:09:58.000But I was just saying that, like, so I don't understand why people who are conservative, like, why, if you're fiscally conservative, that makes sense.
02:10:09.000If you're financially conservative, if you believe in the Second Amendment, you have all these ideas about rights.
02:11:14.000Anybody dumb enough to get married should be allowed to give away half their shit.
02:11:19.000We were in Arizona and this guy was talking about his daughter and she is gay and divorced and I was like, oh, I'm glad the gays know what divorce is all about now.
02:11:28.000They're probably going to regret fighting for that marriage thing.
02:11:35.000Melissa Etheridge was on the podcast years ago and she's been married and divorced a couple times and she was telling me all these women she's got to pay alimony to.
02:13:18.000Because we really are at a crossroads.
02:13:22.000It makes us realize how good we had it for so many years when the economy was booming and people could be independent and out there supporting themselves.
02:13:33.000But then when all that shit is literally cut in half, you've got to make do.
02:14:10.000You go to a retail store, put a mask on.
02:14:12.000And LA definitely, I mean, it's, when I was walking my dog in LA, every single day, I have to avoid a crazy, there was a guy with a machete, there was, and then I walked out, and then I was two days, every walk I go on, there's basically like a crazy homeless,
02:14:28.000a young woman who's, Out alone and they're having some kind of breakdown and it gets worse and worse every day.
02:14:36.000It's like it is deteriorating faster than I could have even imagined and it makes me mad because the government doesn't give a fuck about me.
02:15:09.000You're paying taxes to keep these politicians fed.
02:15:13.000Okay, but they need to make sure that I'm not getting attacked while I walk my dog.
02:15:18.000But that's the problem with some places as big as LA. There's like a diffusion of responsibility thing that you get to when you get to numbers that are so high.
02:15:26.000When you get to like 20 million people.
02:15:29.000You know, there's like an expression about how—not an expression, but there's an example about how when people see someone getting attacked, like if there's only one person there and someone's getting attacked, you feel responsible to help.
02:15:43.000But if you're in a crowd and someone's attacking someone— Everyone assumes everyone else.
02:15:46.000Yeah, everyone assumes someone else is going to jump in.
02:16:12.000It's interesting too, Jamie and I were talking about this, because they, before, just the way...
02:16:20.000I don't even know if they know how many actual homeless people are there, because I volunteered once to be part of the homeless count, and that's how they count the homeless, is volunteers who go through LA for like one weekend and count as many homeless people as they can.
02:16:36.000And do you write down what streets you're on?
02:18:34.000He had, you know, he talked about the small amount of clothes he had.
02:18:38.000And it was kind of weird because he was, you know, really for a person who has been homeless and on the street and his horrible life since he was nine, kind of seemed pretty together.
02:18:48.000Like the way he was talking, communicating, at least in this video.
02:18:57.000If you're mad at someone, say if you're a gay person and you're mad that Caitlyn Jenner doesn't believe in gay marriage even though she wanted to transition and wants you to call her a woman now.
02:19:10.000Instead of being mad, and I guess you could be mad at the idea, but I think what we really need to start doing is look like, what happened?
02:19:21.000What are all the things that took place in your life that you turned into this right now?
02:20:05.000What undoing you have to have to take a 40-year-old person who's grilling in front of a house in Venice with heroin tracks all over their arm and make them a reasonable contributor to society, a healthy person who can kind of do anything and I know.
02:20:46.000And the have-nots are like, these motherfuckers, why do they have this?
02:20:50.000Especially during COVID, because everybody has nothing, right?
02:20:53.000These homeless people don't have anything.
02:20:54.000They feel entitled because they don't have anything, and you do.
02:20:58.000And there's a weird thing that people have this thought that if you have something and they don't have it, it's because there's an injustice.
02:21:08.000And you have contributed to this injustice or you've caused this injustice.
02:21:24.000Because most people also don't have good things.
02:21:29.000I was reading this tweet from this girl who was talking about, you know, like, we need to start going into the suburbs and going into these people's houses.
02:21:51.000You're going to be happy when you're tired because you've been working all day, trying to achieve a dream, and you're exhausted, and you see these people outside your house, how the fuck do you have this house?
02:23:36.000There's just so much, it's such a, it is really just so complex, I don't even know how you begin, but I don't, I do wonder why some, obviously some cities are doing things that, where it isn't festering and exploding,
02:23:53.000and some cities are, so why don't, what are the cities that have it somewhat under control?
02:24:14.000There was an Upper West Side thing recently where they had a hotel and they had like 300 homeless guys living in this hotel, but then they started like jerking off in front of people and, you know, taking shits on people's cars and stuff.
02:24:27.000De Blasio had to move him out and now people are pissed off at him for taking these people out.
02:24:32.000It was mostly men, mostly homeless men.
02:24:35.000And what's really crazy was this article that was written about it was so distorted.
02:24:41.000It was like homeless families are being relocated when their kids are just now going to school.
02:24:49.000Like, first of all, yes, literally, this is pulling at the heartstrings.
02:24:53.000There's been a bunch of things they're doing lately to pull at the heartstrings, but this was one of the most preposterous articles that I read.
02:24:58.000One of them was they're now calling homeless people the unhoused.
02:25:14.000This was an article about people that were putting rocks under underpasses.
02:25:18.000When homeless people had moved out of certain areas, they were going under these underpasses and putting these enormous rocks so that people couldn't put tents in.
02:25:27.000And they were saying, do you understand what you're doing to the unhoused?
02:25:30.000These are the only places they can go to escape the elements.
02:25:32.000The reason why they go under that underpass, it's literally the difference between life and death.
02:25:37.000That's also somewhat of a myth because there are beds sometimes that go empty because people don't want to give up their drugs and weapons.
02:25:47.000So the idea that they don't have anywhere else to go isn't always true.
02:25:54.000You need to take a little bit more compassion when you're making these statements because these people that are drug addicts, they don't know what to do.
02:27:22.000Vaginal sex with a girl and impregnated her and say like maybe you were 20 and she was 14. They didn't put you in a sex register list because they wanted you to be responsible for taking care of the baby that you created.
02:28:39.000So I guess you're giving the judge the ability to decide one way or another.
02:28:46.000So you give them the ability to discern whether or not this was someone who's in an actual relationship with a person who can commit, which is very weird.
02:30:24.000And I didn't see more than one, one day, in and out of the news about these 39 kids that were rescued.
02:30:30.000Yeah, that's another one that is really, I was in a rest stop, it was like a truck stop on the way here, and they had the signs, you know, it's like, are you being human trafficked?
02:30:41.000And they're in rest stops across America.
02:30:44.000And it's like, are you working against your will?
02:31:49.000I just don't know that I'm correct about that.
02:31:52.000And it's supposed to be a movie about the hyper-sexualization and exploitation of young girls.
02:32:01.000Critics of Cutie say the Netflix film hyper-sexualizes a pre-teen dance troupe, but director said Monday that she is fighting the same fight, in quotes, they are, to stop the exploitation of young girls.
02:32:15.000So the way she stops it is by sexualizing them.
02:34:21.000My friends and I got into this on Twitter about the cuties thing and you know, I don't know that those girls are old enough to decide to do that film.
02:35:46.000It's one thing to see it on TV, but to see five-year-olds in pumps with full makeup and blown-out hair.
02:35:52.000Remember this from Bad Grandpa with the giant Knoxville movie a couple years ago?
02:35:55.000He had picked up his grandson, and it was fake, but they were also pranking people, so it's not really fake.
02:36:02.000They dressed up like a little girl, and they went and did this whole thing, and she starts doing that crazy dance and freaking everybody out.
02:36:09.000It's actually a little boy, if I remember correctly.
02:36:41.000But I also think that this is in our culture and we need to examine that.
02:36:46.000That this like the beauty pageants and the you know and it's funny because I'll be like oh QAnon is crazy and not everything is about pedophilia and then you see a cuties you know preview and you're like oh maybe there are tunnels under what what is it my friend said she's like my brother said there are tunnels there are tunnels under the Getty or some shit for human trafficking I don't think that's true,
02:37:15.000but there was a fuck island that was real.
02:37:18.000And the fact that prominent politicians, well, he went 26 times, not a lot of times.
02:37:24.000Wow, you do a really great impression.
02:39:40.000What's terrifying is that if there can be an island that is literally curated and run by an intelligence agent who's bringing in prominent Celebrities and politicians and even scientists from all over the world to this place where they're having sex with underage girls and we all know about it.
02:39:58.000And then the guy gets killed and then, oh, he just hung himself.
02:40:04.000And then you get a Michael Baden, who's a famous autopsy doctor, says, no, these injuries are inconsistent with hanging and they're very consistent with someone being strangled in the position that he's choked on.
02:40:16.000It's not where someone has ligature marks if they're Yeah, all the things that point to the fact that he was murdered.
02:41:14.000At In-N-Out in L.A. Yeah, there was a photo shoot where she was still on the loose after Jeffrey Epstein was killed, where she was like sending messages to people.
02:41:23.000So here she is, like clearly posing, and the book, powerful In-N-Out commercial, by the way, made people hungry.
02:41:31.000Yeah, it was posed so you could see the book, and the book was about CIA agents who've been killed.
02:41:40.000You can see the book spine on one of these pictures.
02:44:33.000Well, when the Kennedy thing was happening, what's really fascinating is if you apply that same logic and thought to his assassination, no wonder why there's so many conspiracy theories.
02:44:44.000Because if the intelligence community really decided to whack him and you don't think they could have got away with it, he's fucking people left and right.
02:45:43.000But, I mean, I think, like, this whole sex trafficking thing, this seedy underbelly of the world thing, I think back then it was way worse.
02:45:52.000And I think there was no way of exposing it.
02:45:55.000Well, yeah, they all just got whacked, I think.
02:45:57.000Yeah, and I think it was like a normal, it was probably, like when you think of things like Skull and Bones and all these weird little clubs and these secret societies.
02:47:07.000Ladies and gentlemen, the very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society.
02:47:15.000And we are, as a people, inherently and historically...
02:47:19.000Opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings.
02:47:25.000We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.
02:47:37.000Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.
02:47:47.000Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.
02:47:56.000And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.
02:48:10.000He's trying to warn us about exactly what's happening.
02:48:15.000Patriot Act 2. He's trying to warn us.
02:48:33.000I mean, it's a weird time because some of this stuff, you know, I have very conflicting feelings about some of this stuff.
02:48:42.000I think it's good that a lot of light's being shined on it.
02:48:45.000I also hate that people don't get due process.
02:48:50.000We live in a very strange time for this where, great, more stuff is being revealed, although we seem to forget the stuff that's actually proven, like Epstein, in five minutes.
02:49:01.000And then there's stuff that's not, you know, people are being destroyed and have no access to due process or anything, and there's no way to defend themselves.
02:49:13.000Well, the stunning thing about the Epstein thing is that the mainstream media has let it go.
02:50:28.000And willing to explain what's happening.
02:50:30.000And some of them are forced to write some bullshit articles with clickbaity titles because they have to stay alive because no one is buying newspapers.
02:50:49.000They want to find my biggest, again, this is another weird issue, place where we're in is, I call it journalism, and it's activism masking as journalism.
02:50:59.000And that is where I feel like the press is, this is where they're losing their credibility because they're not being honest.
02:51:14.000They're mostly working in local journalism at rags that are being canceled, bought out, bought up by bigger things.
02:51:21.000And so you have the people who are kind of activists, and they're journalists, they're practicing journalism, and that's damaging— To all journalists because now you're undermining what your job is to do,
02:51:37.000which is present facts and present evidence and chase down leads and not have your own opinion about things.
02:51:48.000Discover something as more evidence is presented to you and always be checking yourself.
02:51:54.000Well, my hope is that through this, independent sources will emerge.
02:51:58.000Like you're seeing that with some independent political sources.
02:52:01.000Like you're seeing whether it's the Jimmy Dore show or Kyle Kalinske or Rising on the Hill.
02:52:07.000All these people that are not beholden to any one party that are talking about politics.
02:52:11.000I'm hoping we're going to see that with everything.
02:52:13.000And that these people with these biased perceptions and, you know, journalism, as you call it, which is a great word.
02:52:30.000I think this is why people are so confused right now and lost.
02:52:37.000And I hear this from these letters I'm getting, letters from the politically homeless.
02:52:42.000What happens a lot is they'll get red-pilled by the mainstream media.
02:52:46.000I think Malice talks a lot about this and just recognizing the idea of the cathedral.
02:53:46.000Every system, and this is generally in societies when you see this kind of breakdown of society, is when people lose faith in the people who are governing them, the experts.
02:53:58.000You have epidemiologists who are like, Racism is the real virus.
02:54:06.000When you're saying these things as a scientist, how are you expecting people to take you seriously when they've stopped their fucking lives for you?
02:54:15.000Did you see what the UN's quote was about the pandemic?
02:54:19.000That it revealed that the patriarchy is a gigantic problem?
02:54:24.000They were blaming it on the patriarchy.
02:54:26.000And you have all of these institutions that are falling in line with us.
02:54:31.000So people are stumbling in the wilderness, and then they're online.
02:54:35.000And then they're virtue signaling, and then they're in these echo chambers, and then they're going to war with anybody who disagrees, and then they're demanding compliance.
02:54:45.000The thing that concerns me is if you are a person, you know, I have to check in with myself when I'm like, if I feel like I'm saying, fuck you, I'm voting for Trump.
02:55:20.000And I think that this whole woke bullshit is more dangerous than anything.
02:55:24.000And he's gone like full MAGA. But see, that is something that I would check in with myself about.
02:55:33.000Because if you were here, and now you're here, I understand.
02:55:39.000And I think this is why we live in one of the most interesting times in American history ever, because there's so much migration, literal migration.
02:55:47.000You sitting here is a perfect example of that.
02:55:50.000And political migration, ideological migration.
02:56:08.000It's just a fascinating time in our history and I think that people, we have to give each other space to realign a little bit, but what is worrisome to me is in the absence of anyone to trust,
02:56:25.000So many journalists have abdicated their role.
02:56:30.000Many politicians are all just shit, basically.
02:56:34.000Sending a populist message to the people.
02:56:38.000I don't understand the worship at all.
02:56:41.000In the absence of all of this, where do people turn?
02:56:44.000They're turning to people like you, for instance, because you're willing to have conversations with many different kinds of people across the spectrum so they can maybe...
02:56:56.000In order to read the news now, I'll see a headline.
02:57:00.000If it confirms my bias, I'm like, I better double-check that.
02:59:23.000No, but I believe that there's some use in that, but it just seems like there's also probably more misinformation that gets spread that way than actual facts.
02:59:34.000And it's that old quote, like, the lie spreads faster than the truth around the world before the truth gets out of bed or whatever.
02:59:42.000A lie will go around the world before the truth gets out of bed.
03:02:12.000Yeah, I guess I can attribute my shift to paying attention and being thrown into the culture war and I don't even feel like my actual values have changed so much as the culture has changed around me.
03:02:27.000Most of what I believe about free speech, rights, the right to have jobs and work how you want to, which I push back against all the time in California, what they're doing there.
03:02:39.000You know how they fight that gig society?
03:02:42.000I told you about it the last time I was here.
03:02:44.000They had a fight with it about stand-up comics.
03:02:46.000They were trying to include stand-up comics in it.
03:02:48.000The comedy store actually was at the head of that.
03:02:50.000Yeah, they actually fought and won and got comics reclassified.
03:02:55.000But there was an issue where certain people were not going to get booked because these arenas, these venues, rather, were going to have to employ them.
03:03:03.000And they're like, we can't afford to give you health insurance if you do a...
03:03:16.000And it essentially would categorize independent contracting and it would give it the same label that it has in California under AB5. And that's people like you who write articles for a bunch of different publications.
03:03:28.000You'd have to be an employee of each of those publications.
03:03:33.000It's like you're either gonna have to join a union, you're either gonna have to work for the government or join a union or go get employed, but people work gigs.
03:06:03.000And if you are a company, for instance, you now have to employ that person.
03:06:08.000And so companies based in D.C., if you're writing for a political, whatever it might be, they were saying, we can't work with you because we would have to fall under the laws of AB5 and either hire you or that's it, and we're not going to hire you.
03:07:55.000Because the woman who did is an insane person.
03:07:59.000I mean, I think it's part of the reason that Elon's probably going to bounce out of there, too, because I don't know that he uses...
03:08:06.000I'm not sure, but I'm not sure that he uses union people in his factories.
03:08:12.000I could be wrong about that, but I know that part of her...
03:08:15.000Beef was with Elon and Uber and these big corporations, but when you look at who's funding her, which I love doing is following the money of all these people, it's like all the labor unions.
03:08:27.000So she's in the pockets of these people, and she...
03:08:32.000She will post something and then people will be in her mentions like, please don't do this.
03:11:43.000No, here's the thing that drives me crazy.
03:11:45.000I believe it's California that has the most wealth inequality in America.
03:11:51.000They have done nothing to help the middle class.
03:11:54.000They've eaten the middle class completely.
03:11:56.000All my friends who are in my age or a little younger in their 30s, they all had to leave and go buy a house and they left years ago because they're like, it's too expensive for us to try and get ahead and have kids.
03:12:08.000And These mom and pops that are getting destroyed.
03:12:11.000They don't give a shit about the middle class or the working class.
03:12:15.000You're seeing tons of homeless people are unhoused and tons of people who are absolutely loaded.
03:12:23.000You know how much money it would take for me to buy a house in LA for a down payment in my neighborhood?
03:12:51.000There's no pathway upward for the middle class in places like New York or LA. Don't you think when places get really big, though, it's almost they're unmanageable when they get really big.
03:13:00.000And they're always, when they're really big, they're always run by Democrats.
03:13:44.000It was all about the guy who was the head of GM. Is that what it was?
03:13:47.000Where he was trying to contact him to figure out why you're moving jobs out of the city and do you understand what you're doing to this place.
03:13:54.000And that was when he was a real populist.
03:14:11.000It's when we were driving around and our tour guide, our little Sharpa, who was showing us around, he was like...
03:14:18.000Showing us all these amazing little old Austin places that are closed because of COVID and will probably never open.
03:14:24.000And they've been there since like 1938 and all that.
03:14:26.000And, you know, we were saying like if I was a philanthropic billionaire, I would buy all these little mom and pops and help keep them alive because they're the lifeblood of these cities.
03:14:38.000And they're also just that that's what kills me is like I hate seeing this.
03:14:42.000This coffee shop that's been there since forever closed and there's a Starbucks next door and they're fine.