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00:00:45.000I know there was one guy who got arrested for lighting fires, and I'd read some other shit about activists getting arrested for lighting fires or Antifa people.
00:02:45.000Yeah, it's, you know, people, and they find out, oh, you're from Oregon, so what do you think of all, you know, it's just, it's kind of embarrassing to, just because I understand people have an opinion and they want change and they, you know, maybe some of it is valid,
00:03:02.000but I don't agree with A hundred nights of burning, or however many nights has been, of just burning and ruining a city.
00:03:20.000I think it's exactly what we were just saying, that you get enough people that join onto a movement, and the movement has no, like, directive or leaders.
00:03:31.000And you're going to get morons that do things, like light books on fire and throw them into the lobby, like doing all the things that they were doing, trying to break into the federal building.
00:04:51.000You know, it is crazy because you start, and I've even texted you about this, about wondering about, you know, people would always say, well, do the elites run the country and they're controlling this and media and this and that.
00:05:04.000And then you start wondering, Or thinking or seeing, and you see all this, and you're like, maybe that's true.
00:05:11.000Maybe the elites have been controlling everything, and they're still trying to with this COVID and the fear and everything they're doing.
00:05:17.000They can control people with fear, and that's what's happening.
00:05:20.000I get super suspicious when people use that term, the elites.
00:06:46.000But I would imagine that the only way you really get successful as a politician is you have to be connected to all these other people that are connected to all these special interest groups and lobbies, and that's why you have to go to these fundraisers, and that's why you have to mingle.
00:08:46.000Well, Trump is like, I mean, he's obviously deeply, again, way out of my lane, just talking nonsense, but he's obviously connected to business.
00:08:55.000He's a huge businessman, hugely successful businessman, but not a politician in any way other than becoming president, which is fucking bananas, you know?
00:09:21.000Yeah, I was pretty impressed with the...
00:09:24.000The treaty we just signed with Israel.
00:09:27.000I mean, remember, Jared Kushner, he got beat up a lot, and Trump for appointing, and the whole family, and how everybody's involved in his operation, basically.
00:09:39.000But, you know, Jared Kushner wasn't qualified, and then here we signed this great treaty with Israel.
00:12:20.000Well, that's the beautiful thing about the woods as a reset, is that when you're out there in quiet, you realize, oh, none of these animals out here give a fuck about me.
00:14:34.000Bears eating animals like that, it's so hard to watch, too, because the bears don't really kill them first.
00:14:40.000No, and the bear, this year was a hard year for the elk calves because, so the cows were pregnant, we call it dropping the calves, so they were giving birth, and the bear were just following, knowing that the calves are going to be dropped, they'll be on the ground,
00:14:55.000they can't stand up, and they could just kill them pretty quick, and so they were finding like two dead elk calves a day, every day, And this was a hard year specifically because it was dry in Southern Colorado.
00:15:41.000In that area, there's about, I think, 23 elk calves survive a year out of 100. And this year was down in the teens because the grass was, they couldn't hide.
00:15:54.000So it's going to be a rough year in the future.
00:15:57.000I mean, 23 out of 100 is, you know, don't quote me on these numbers, but it was just, the point is I want to make it was less this year because there wasn't the cover.
00:16:09.000You know, when we were there with Johnny Hamilton and he was telling us that story, I've told a story before on the podcast about how they were tracking a cat and they found the cat's tracks and then elk tracks and then no more cat tracks.
00:16:22.000And then they found the elk about 100 yards later.
00:16:25.000The cat had jumped on the elk's back and taken out a big bull elk.
00:18:47.000And also, with all those lions and the bears trying to survive that, Johnny, you mentioned Johnny Hamilton, they took eight lions out of that country this year, and we're still seeing them during the daylight every day.
00:19:17.000I'd like to have a biologist sit down and talk to, like a biologist who's pro reintroduction of wolves, sit down with someone like you and have a conversation about it.
00:19:33.000Hey, let's, wolves are a big part of the whatever.
00:19:38.000Let's get them back in where they used to be.
00:19:40.000Let's make, because even you said you like knowing there's grizzly bear out there and you don't, obviously you don't want to be attacked, but just knowing they're there and maybe seeing them.
00:19:50.000The problem is they make They make all these, I don't know, I don't want to say promises, but they sell it a certain way.
00:19:59.000Like we're going to have this many packs of wolves and they'll breed this often.
00:20:05.000And then so we'll have a carrying capacity of this many wolves.
00:20:08.000Well, so once the wolves are there, then it's, oh no, we can't kill wolves because they sell it like they're going to manage them, you know, because we're going to keep this many.
00:20:17.000But then it's like, once they're there, they're like, oh no, we can't hunt wolves.
00:20:21.000I was like, well, no, I thought we were going to manage them.
00:20:24.000So then everything goes back to nothing.
00:20:26.000And then you got all these protests with all these pro-wolf advocates saying, we can't hunt wolves.
00:22:30.000Like, what are you hunting wolves for?
00:22:31.000This is like early on in my hunting days.
00:22:33.000And he's like, if you don't hunt them, man, you got a real problem with their numbers.
00:22:36.000And he was telling me stories about friends that have ranches and they get attacked by wolves.
00:22:40.000You know, the cattle get attacked by wolves.
00:22:42.000And he was telling me that they take barrels of frozen meat And they freeze them with water, and then they leave these big bricks of frozen meat and water out for wolves.
00:22:53.000And then he's got stands set up where he waits for wolves, because it takes a long time for them to eat through the meat and the ice, like a barrel filled with...
00:23:04.000And he just kind of sets up shop, and he goes...
00:23:06.000He goes, some of them are just too smart.
00:24:06.000But some people say, like, the reason that's the case is because people want a lot of animals that they can hunt.
00:24:12.000Like, this is the argument, like, Steve Rinell has actually talked about this before with Alaska, that Alaska's done this sort of over-management of wolves in certain areas because they want to make sure there's a high number of moose and caribou and deer so that people will come up there to hunt.
00:26:20.000What they want to do, essentially, the people that manage wildlife, a lot of them at least in California, they would like to eliminate hunting and let the animals all take care of themselves in some sort of normal wild way and force everyone to eat tofu.
00:26:35.000Force you to eat tofu until you grow breasts.
00:26:55.000But as soon as you move into things like mountain lions, even if you tell people that mountain lions taste good, they don't want to hear that.
00:31:03.000And then one of them, he thinks was the alpha male, was sitting on the top of this ridge, like at about, I think he said about 50, 60 yards, staring at him, and he drew back for that one, and then he took off, and then the whole pack just took off with him.
00:31:17.000They'd abandoned the situation because they realized what was going on.
00:31:20.000But when they shot one, he said all the other ones started howling, like they tried to figure out who was dead.
00:33:42.000I definitely don't think wolves should be wiped out or anything like that, but I just don't think wolves in Colorado, that's not a thing we should do.
00:33:52.000It's just reintroducing them just sets off a whole chain.
00:34:31.000I'm not saying he's wrong, but he's into what's called rewilding.
00:34:36.000And he wants to reintroduce wild animals into places, including, like, the UK. He wants to reintroduce, like, he's like, the UK used to have lions and elephants and all these different animals.
00:34:47.000He wants to see if we could find this gentleman.
00:36:24.000Just this walking around slowly is tiring.
00:36:28.000So when you're at a heightened level for eight hours or more, 15 hours on some days and you're covering distance and it's like, I want to be ready at all times for anything that happens.
00:36:42.000So I have an arrow knocked and I am ready.
00:37:15.000Like if you're in a situation and an elk sees you and you have to freeze and you're holding your bow in your hand, you don't realize how damn heavy that thing is.
00:38:24.000And I was like, God, that one hill that we went up to to get the bull that we wind up getting, fuck, that was hard.
00:38:31.000And to get up there, and then the only good thing is I was in good enough shape that even though I was exhausted, I got my heart rate back quick.
00:38:38.000It wasn't like I was beaten down once I got up there.
00:38:41.000Yeah, because we had to get the wind right to get up the hill, essentially what it was.
00:38:45.000And that recovery is all related to how good a shape you're in.
00:38:49.000That thing that we had last year, I mean, I don't know if we ever played the clip, but that moment that we had up there was one of the wildest elk hunting moments.
00:38:57.000I don't know, I haven't been elk hunting for that long.
00:39:00.000That was the wildest thing I'd ever experienced.
00:41:58.000And I'm like, well, people shoot over the back of bulls all the time at 20 yards because it's so intense.
00:42:04.000Yeah, if you've never experienced it, the screaming alone, it's like when you're near it, they sound like something from Lord of the Rings.
00:42:17.000The looks, the crazy antlers, the delicious meat, the crazy sounds they make, the wild places that they live, and the romantic but short life that they live.
00:45:02.000And I got to think that a guy like you, who does ultramarathons and all this crazy working out, there has to be something to what you're eating.
00:45:23.000Yeah, 40 to 50. What's the rest of it?
00:45:26.000Carbs, like potatoes and rice and fruits and vegetables.
00:45:32.000Just think about how much wild game you consume and how protein-rich that is and that dark red meat that you get from these animals, how good that is for you.
00:45:43.000It has to have some sort of an effect on your physical abilities.
00:45:49.000Because one of the things that people always marvel at with you is like, how the fuck does this guy do so many things?
00:45:54.000Like, how do you have the time to get up in the morning?
00:45:57.000I mean, there's been many times you've run a marathon a day.
00:46:00.000I know people are hearing this, oh, this guy's full of shit.
00:46:32.000Giving yourself this hard workload and your body's adapted to it.
00:46:35.000I'm sure that has something to do with it.
00:46:37.000But the fact that you're not injured all the time and the fact that you have all this energy, I gotta think that that wild game plays a big factor in all that.
00:46:49.000And I know that has to help me recover.
00:46:53.000But I think aside from that, I think we're, as humans, we're capable of so many amazing things.
00:47:01.000And it's like, I've, that's why the people who you've had on those podcasts that I've, I've like been obsessed with connecting with because they're humans just like we are, but they, Goggins, they do incredible.
00:47:14.000It's like, how can the same species of I'm thinking she's going to win the gold at this Olympics this coming year.
00:47:40.000So I try to think, well, how can they do that?
00:48:18.000It says, we estimate I slept fewer than four hours during my 105 hours on the Colorado Trail.
00:48:24.000It's a combination of one-minute trail naps and longer attempts in the RV, and sometimes they happen by accident during a group sunrise photo.
00:48:49.000So we stopped with the sun coming up to take a picture, and she'd been going for 105 hours, which I, what is that, over four days, and slept for four hours.
00:48:58.000So we stopped to take a picture, and she fell asleep.
00:49:03.000But right after this picture, she's up running.
00:49:08.000So that other picture on the trail that I took with her and Maggie...
00:49:14.000A lot of people will look at this and they'll say, what kind of a human wants to do this?
00:49:21.000This was a three-minute nap right here.
00:49:23.000So it was going to be three minutes or maybe six minutes, but something...
00:49:27.000Sun had just come up, and incidentally, I'd just seen a big group of bucks in the dark about two hours earlier, about, I think, three in the morning.
00:49:35.000This was probably about five in the morning.
00:49:37.000But I laid my pack on her legs there and my coat's on her legs.
00:50:34.000Two minutes later, she'd like, I could barely hear it.
00:50:37.000She'd answer whatever Maggie said, because her brain was like, They said her oxygen level in her brain was at 70%, which that was because of the coughing and lung issues and the high altitude and the dust and everything.
00:50:51.000So her brain wasn't working like it should.
00:50:54.000Let's explain what she was trying to do.
00:51:57.000Yeah, so her pulse oxygen was 70, which it's supposed to be in the 90s, and if it's at 80 or 85, they say go immediately to the emergency room, to the doctor, and hers is at 70. So her brain just wasn't getting enough oxygen,
00:52:13.000and I believe the doctor said that Because they said, well, what would happen if she keeps pushing?
00:52:19.000And he said, well, she'll die on the trail.
00:52:23.000Well, that's the problem with someone who's that tough.
00:53:14.000Well, goals are interesting because goals are what force you to pass your comfort zone and go into this crazy level where you realize you're only tapping into a very small percentage of what your body's capable of.
00:53:41.000But there's a thing that you do when you tap into, like when you have a goal, when you say, I'm going to run 10 miles a day and I'm going to keep doing it.
00:53:49.000Like my friend Lex Friedman, the scientist, MIT guy, he was on the podcast last week.
00:53:57.000One of the things that he was talking about was he did this challenge where he ran, was it four miles every four hours?
00:54:41.000But there's something about a goal like that where you set it in motion and you realize you have to do it where it forces you out of your comfort zone.
00:54:47.000It forces you to realize what your body is actually capable of, which most people just never do.
00:54:52.000That's one of the great things about making someone compete.
00:54:55.000That's the great thing about training for a marathon or getting ready to do something.
00:54:59.000When you have a goal and then you're committed to the thing and you actually have to go and do it, then and only then do you often find out what your body is actually capable of.
00:55:30.000It's like, when you push, I don't even, I mean, it's not like I can say I do that every time either, but it's like, Who really pushes with all they got?
00:56:24.000Are the best at what they do and hoping a little bit I can pick up a little bit I'm get that mindset like Goggins flips that switch Courtney just has no switch.
00:56:36.000I want to know what that is Like what when you say you're not talented because you're obviously very successful at both as a bow hunter You're probably I mean if there's three top bow hunters on the planet earth you're in that top I don't know how many people are the best bow hunters on earth, but in my mind you're you're in that group and What is talent?
00:56:54.000Like, if you're that good at bow hunting, and I've seen you shoot targets 150 yards away and shoot balloons.
00:57:00.000I mean, you seem to do some ridiculous shit.
00:57:02.000You're obviously incredibly talented with a bow.
01:02:03.000We should be able to get to the mountain by about 10.30.
01:02:05.000And then we can run and we should be done.
01:02:07.000I mean, everything is so regimented because her brain works like that.
01:02:12.000So when she thinks about that pain, I think she just knows that it's going to be the certain amount of time and then it's going to be over.
01:04:11.000Emma, Maggie, those are such white girl names.
01:04:13.000I just conflate them all together in my head.
01:04:15.000Yeah, no, Emma lives in Crested Butte.
01:04:17.000So I went, I met Courtney in Leadville.
01:04:20.000And that's, we ran Mount Sherman, which is 14,000 feet.
01:04:25.000So I met her at four in the afternoon, Courtney and her husband, Kevin.
01:04:29.000And we did this big 11 mile loop and we did a 14,000 foot peak and then I stayed there at their house.
01:04:40.000And then the next morning I got up and drove and met Emma in Crested Butte, which is another small town in Colorado and it's high altitude and that's where Emma grew up and her parents live.
01:04:54.000And so I met her there the next day and we ran I don't know, shorter distance, but she runs so much faster, you know, five miles or whatever.
01:05:03.000But for me, running five miles at 10,000 feet with her at that pace, it's like, She's got some length, too.
01:06:25.000But yeah, so I just was interested in how that decision is made.
01:06:29.000Now when you talk to her about her training, how much of her training is just running and how much of her training is like strength and conditioning?
01:07:11.000There's something also so crazy about your goal in life, like what you do, the thing that you concentrate on the most is your physical body.
01:07:19.000Like you're banking on this, you're banking on your tissue.
01:08:38.000Dude, I had a lady that was giving me a massage, and I had a Theragun, and I wound up just having her just use the Theragun.
01:08:46.000She was giving me a massage, and it was great and everything, but there was just one spot in my back, and I was like, just try this for a second.
01:08:53.000Yeah, man like half the massage session was just her jackhammer me Just working me with that and it was more effective than anything because you could do something with those things where you can push all the weight in like a massage But it's doing something that you're not gonna be able to do with your hands, right?
01:09:09.000There's this girl who does my massage her name's Erin She is so amazing.
01:09:14.000I mean I can say Something that's bothering me.
01:09:17.000She can go, like, feel my leg, go right to it and just feel it.
01:13:52.000There was that Babylon Bee that I showed you today.
01:13:55.000They did have a thing that said, like, Trump was on here for an epic seven-hour interview with Rogan and said, had the best marijuana possibly he's ever had.
01:15:28.000That's what I've always, I mean, I've always been, I just don't get how there's these people have been in politics for 50 years, and I'm like, Okay, good job.
01:16:25.000They stepped in, got Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar and all those other people to back out, to back down, and then all the delegates went to Biden, and then Biden winds up being the guy, and you almost feel bad for the guy.
01:16:40.000Yeah, I mean, that can't be our best option for running.
01:16:44.000I mean, so whoever wins, you want to feel confident.
01:17:38.000I mean, people had an understanding...
01:17:40.000Of psychology back then, of just human beings and just the natural tendency of people to abuse power and to abuse influence.
01:17:48.000And I think they just came out with a really brilliant way to sort of have checks and balances to keep that from getting completely out of hand.
01:18:39.000and it's close to 40 i believe close to 40. still pretty amazing yeah or maybe you know maybe what if you go back and you actually look at him he looks exactly like jared kushner wait everybody does it's him uh an agent 1776 thomas jefferson was 33. wow so young and smart as yeah i mean i think some of the guys were in their 20s 40,
01:19:51.000But, you know, when you read, like, letters from, like, the Civil War era, if you read letters back home, like, the way people wrote back then was so eloquent.
01:20:28.000The way they communicated back then was just different.
01:20:31.000Do you think people would have spiced up how they wrote, just in case they'd know it wasn't going to be personal correspondence?
01:20:37.000They wouldn't want people to think they're dumb, so they'd spice it up?
01:20:41.000But the problem is when a dummy writes things and tries to make them seem smart, have you ever gotten an email from someone that's dumb that tries to be smart?
01:20:49.000They just would have someone else write it for them back then.
01:20:51.000Like, hey, I can't write this, but write a letter to my girlfriend.
01:23:24.000Maybe the street dealer's going to jail.
01:23:26.000Yeah, well, occasionally drug companies get in trouble, you know, like for opioid deaths or for misrepresenting the dangers of the addictions to opioids or some of their drugs.
01:27:34.000And the two of those guys, they're doing a wrestling drill and sparring, and Logan Paul is hanging in there, man, with an elite MMA world championship caliber fighter.
01:27:46.000A guy who went to war with Yoel Romero and walked him down.
01:35:15.000He had a weird style when he was young, which is one of the reasons why when he slowed down, it was very difficult for him to be successful.
01:35:22.000Because Roy would, instead of jab people, he would leap in with a left hook.
01:36:18.000That fight with Vinny Pazienza, that was the only fight that CompuBox ever scored where there was no punches landed on Roy for an entire round.
01:40:43.000And then when he started talking about how it felt orgasmic to hurt people sometimes, I'm like, I think I need a wider table at the fucking studio.
01:45:11.000He's going to have all the first-round fireworks, not me.
01:45:14.000I do have first-round fireworks, but he's known for more first-round fireworks than anybody to ever touch boxing other than maybe George Foreman.
01:45:21.000Jones' apprehension follows remarks Tyson made last month where he called the match a search and destroy.
01:46:57.000There's a thing about having that skill when you're young.
01:47:02.000As long as the body doesn't fall apart, as long as the shoulders still work right, and the back's not completely blown out...
01:47:11.000Especially, and I don't know what the deal is with TRT and growth hormone and all that stuff, but he knows how to move his body, and he learned how to move his body in a way very few human beings can do.
01:47:23.000The way he has that shell, that guard, where he comes in, that peekaboo style, just bobbing and weaving and throwing fucking bombs, that is in his...
01:48:55.000You know, and there was this intensity because, you know, a lot of people had kind of compared Tyson in many ways to Frazier because they were both fairly short heavyweights.
01:49:07.000And the guy who's training him is Rafael Cordero, who's a – that's King's MMA in Huntington Beach.
01:49:14.000Rafael Cordero is a legendary MMA coach, which is really interesting that he's the guy who's training Mike Tyson because – Well, see that quote right there?
01:49:21.000Look inside my soul and how bad I want it.
01:49:54.000Obviously trained Anderson Silva, trained a lot of the Curitiba guys, the shoot-a-box guys like Mauricio Shogun, Ninja, Vandale Silva, some of the all-time great MMA legends of the pioneers.
01:50:09.000He was one of the trainers for those guys, main trainer for a lot of those guys.
01:51:07.000When he was young, Cuss hypnotized him, and that was part of his ability to seek and destroy, is that Cuss told him things like, you don't exist, just the task.
01:51:28.000and then you have the perfect storm of this 13 year old is incredibly physically gifted yeah right he was 13 years old he weighed 190 pounds and teddy atlas told me he would bring him to these smokers a smoker is like an amateur boxing event that they would do in boxing gyms right and he'd bring him to these smokers and everybody would lie like how many fights this guy have oh he's only had two fights kids had like 30 fights right and so they'd bring tyson he goes how old is the kid he goes he's 13 he was like That fucking kid is not 13. He's like,
01:51:57.000okay, he's 16. How old do you want him to be?
01:52:00.000And he goes, okay, 16. I got a 16-year-old for him.
02:01:04.000Shut him down, outlasted him, and then wound up beating Colby up in the final round, broke his jaw, stopped him.
02:01:12.000But if Tyron Woodley can regain the form that he had when he beat Darren Till, the form that he had when he knocked out Robbie Lawler, the form that he had when he was at the top of his game, he gives everybody problems.
02:01:27.000But the question is, what has been going on?
02:01:32.000Is it just that He's meeting some of the best guys ever, like in Gilbert Burns, who's elite.
02:01:41.000But you can make an argument that he's lost 10 rounds in a row, the last 10 rounds in a row, which is incredible.
02:01:46.000If you think about before that fight, if you go back to before the fight with Kamaru Usman, and if someone told you Tyron Woodley before this fight is going to lose 10 rounds in a row, you'd be like, get the fuck out of here.
02:02:01.000Sometimes fighters have peaks and valleys, and sometimes they return better and stronger than ever, and sometimes it's the start of a downward slide.
02:02:10.000And Colby is a real test to find out where he's at, because there's going to be a lot of emotions coming into this fight.
02:02:17.000And Tyron for sure is the bigger puncher.
02:02:33.000And even then, he was protesting the stoppage with a jaw literally snapped in half, blood pouring out of his mouth, and pissed that they stopped the fight.
02:03:20.000In some ways, it has been Woodley's kryptonite.
02:03:22.000It certainly was in the Usman fight, but the thing about Woodley is, at least in those camps and in these moments in the past, he has had personal problems, he's had career issues, he's had distractions, like he was starting a rap career, he was involved in a lot of other things that...
02:03:41.000I think when a fighter is at their best, they are of a singular mission.
02:03:46.000And that singular mission is to seek and destroy and to just train and to just fight.
02:03:50.000I think everything else on top of that, you can do it.
02:04:11.000And then you don't have the recovery because you haven't trained as hard as maybe you could have.
02:04:15.000Or the distractions have kept you from just being completely focused and centered on your game.
02:04:21.000I think that you saw that with Ronda Rousey.
02:04:25.000As Ronda Rousey got more and more famous, there was more and more distractions, there was movie scripts, and there was television shows, there was all these different things that came to her.
02:04:32.000And at the end of the day, there was also Holly Holm, who was the best striker she ever faced, and Holly stopped her.
02:05:35.000And it's tough to, you know, when you're at your prime and you're as good as he is, we talked about talent, and then also you train and you eliminate those distractions, that's a package.
02:05:47.000Yeah, and I think that training with you also, when you took that dude running and you run Mount Pisgah, how do you say that?
02:06:50.000And someone like you who does that grind every fucking day, you get to this level of endurance and people that think they're in good shape.
02:06:57.000I talked to a bunch of the Sorenix guys that went running with you.
02:07:00.000And they're like, yeah, I thought I was in pretty good shape.
02:08:16.000He was a very good wrestler, just tough as fuck, and he's ready to scrap.
02:08:19.000And he wound up running into a guy in Shamrock that was trained better, was smarter, just had a better game plan, and was an insane cardio.
02:08:28.000And Frank just outworked him and wound up stopping him.
02:08:32.000And then Tito became this guy who realized, like, oh, cardio's everything.
02:08:36.000I remember Kendall Grove Who was a great fighter from Hawaii, still around.
02:08:44.000He trained with Tito on the Ultimate Fighter and then said to me, he goes, dude, it opened my eyes.
02:08:53.000And you realize that these guys that have a certain amount of conditioning, they have a certain amount of ability, if you add extreme cardio, then the other guy gets tired and you don't.
02:09:02.000And when you see someone tired and you're not tired, it's amazing.
02:11:19.000The thing about fighting is that you're getting hit and someone is hitting you.
02:11:24.000There's battles, maybe as difficult, if not more difficult, the battles that play out in your own mind when you're running for three days in the mountains.
02:11:32.000But there's something about people hitting you and about knowing that this guy...
02:12:26.000And if he's ready, and if we're getting the Tyron Woodley that knocked out Robbie Lawler, if we're getting the Tyron Woodley that stopped Carlos Conde, we're getting the real Tyron Woodley.
02:12:35.000If we're getting that guy, it's gonna be an interesting fight.
02:12:44.000no and colby says he's expecting the best tyrone woodley he calls him tyrone yeah tyrone woodley you pussied out this should have been you all that shit i know this is your ass kicking yeah uh why'd you let this man take this ass beating for you yeah i mean it's gonna be so he's expecting the best yeah and he says he's just he says he's gonna end the fight If and when he wins the title,
02:16:12.000And I've heard stories about him back in college wrestling, and he still had that confidence where he'd be wrestling and talking to the crowd.
02:19:11.000Yeah, well, he was just fantastic at these really tight, in-close combat fights of giving you a shoulder and popping you with short hooks and turning angles on you.
02:20:17.000I just love watching people put in work.
02:20:20.000I think there's something that's an incredible resource that we have today with videos, whether it's YouTube videos or any kind of video on Instagram or what have you where you can watch them and you get fired up.
02:21:24.000But that you do it with these guys and you have these, you bring people in to train with you and you have these, it just, I need to know that other people are working.
02:22:14.000How could he not make somebody want to work harder?
02:22:17.000You are going to work harder than you were going to work out, for sure.
02:22:20.000You're not going to probably work out as hard as him, but you're going to work out harder than you would have, knowing that there's dudes like that out there.
02:22:26.000I think that's what people need to realize, and I think you provide that as well.
02:22:32.000Because people have this idea of how hard they're working, and it's usually grossly inflated.
02:24:37.000Yeah, so then he fell behind a little bit and I was having him get back up on, because I showed up when he was about, Maybe 2,000 in, I flew in, and he was doing pretty good, but he started to fall behind,
02:24:52.000so then I was getting him back up on that bar, and I'd look at the clock and say, you got to get back up there now.
02:24:59.000Did you play him the scene where Adrian tells Rocky, and Rocky, just win?
02:25:04.000The one that Goggins likes is round 14, I think, and when Apollo had Rocky hurt, and And then Rocky gets up and Apollo had his hands up and then he looks back and Rocky's up and Apollo just shakes his head.
02:25:17.000And he's like, I can't, this fucker won't quit.
02:25:21.000So that's what Goggins, he replayed that over and over.
02:26:13.000It's not just powerful because you set that example, but you also set an example to them and they will set examples to other people and it's a butterfly effect and it'll pass on.
02:26:22.000There's a thing that you're doing that when putting out the kind of work that you do and the consistency that you do, people know that they can always come to your Instagram page and they're going to get this consistent message and consistent work ethic.
02:28:11.000Um, to me, you know, it's, and I've talked about this before, but even I've had a lot of hunting success and it just feels it's, it's not quite the same because Roy's not here because I'm not able to share it with him.
02:28:25.000And that was our, we'd call and update it.
02:28:28.000If we weren't hunting together, which we had two amazing hunts his last, last year.
02:29:12.000Inspire and motivate you because they look up to you or because they follow you because they're interested in what you do or because you look up to them and you see them and you see how hard they're working and it makes you want to get after it.
02:29:25.000And if you are following good, positive people, good, supportive, positive people that are out there really putting in work, it makes you want to be one of those people.
02:30:59.000I could if everything went totally wrong.
02:31:02.000If you just make bad decisions, you go on bad paths, you got bad friends, you get a bad job, you get a bad girlfriend or a bad wife, a bad life, and bad habits.
02:31:15.000Drugs and alcohol and stealing and lying and next you know you hate yourself and you're 35 and you don't know why you just like wish you were someone different and special and you see some guy out there just kicking ass yeah fuck him fuck you loser he's faking it he's doing this like I've heard people say all kinds of crazy shit there's this one dude that I follow he's a martial arts guy people always accusing him of speeding up his videos oh You know,
02:33:24.000Yeah, I wonder what they would say if they met you.
02:33:28.000People, they get these ideas in their head that a person who hunts or a person who is a meat-eater is causing all this terrible harm to the world and that they are a good person and that this person is bad and they're going to threaten that person and that somehow or another that's going to make it all better.
02:33:47.000Or that they're showing you that, you know, they're there to stand up for the animals.
02:33:52.000And there's a lot of, like, mentally ill people, too.
02:34:22.000And you gotta think, like, you personally are causing a small amount of damage.
02:34:26.000Like, you personally, for the food that you eat, are causing a small amount of damage.
02:34:30.000But if you stop and think about LA, like 20 million people, and all the corn, and all the soybeans, and all the Almonds you need for 20 million people.
02:36:21.000I think we'd be a lot happier society if people felt like they were here for a reason and had a purpose.
02:36:26.000Yeah, and you know, there's no shortcuts in terms of your growth as a person.
02:36:32.000And when you do have a purpose and you're pursuing that purpose and you realize each step along the way, whether you're improving or whether you need to improve and you've got a task in front of you and you have this direction and you have this goal in life,
02:37:20.000And this is their existence, and this is this unfulfilled life.
02:37:25.000This is this unfulfilled time here, and it's a miserable time because the more you seek this comfort, the more you seek this laziness and this sloth and just laying around doing nothing, the more depressed you're going to be because you're not going to get that good feedback.
02:38:49.000And then it's just about respecting the animal and finding the animal and taking it apart and then eating it.
02:38:57.000And when you're eating that animal, you're thinking, when you're serving it to your family and your friends, you're thinking about that moment.
02:39:03.000You're thinking about the hard work that it took to make that happen.
02:39:12.000It's almost like relief and happiness a little bit that you performed as you have practiced for, you said, hours and hours, hundreds of hours.
02:39:21.000And then that arrow went right where it's supposed to, and you know that that's going to result in a humane death for the animal.
02:39:27.000So then you switch because we went from that...
02:39:31.000Feeling good, smiling, to then the death of the animal as we walked up.
02:39:35.000And it's a complete night and day difference.
02:39:39.000Then that's where the respect came in.
02:39:41.000And you're like, here's this dead animal.
02:39:47.000And for people who haven't been involved and don't know what it's like to take the life of something.
02:39:53.000I mean, everybody takes a life of something to live, as we just talked about.
02:39:56.000But when you haven't done it firsthand, that can be hard to understand.
02:40:01.000Yeah, and I think our relationship with animals and food is skewed in this country because people are so aware of the horrors of factory farming.
02:40:08.000You think about that, and a lot of people, they equate that with eating meat.
02:40:12.000And it's a really torturous and sick reality that that is how a lot of the food in this country, that's how it's made.
02:40:39.000And the challenge, I think, especially what we do with the bow, the challenge is what makes it so rewarding.
02:40:46.000To me, I remember my first hunt this year, just a couple weeks ago in Oregon, it was 100 degrees, 90 degrees, full moon, the worst hunting conditions.
02:40:57.000You know, as people don't know, but a full moon means animals are out feeding because they can see at night.
02:41:01.000That means they're not out during the day.
02:41:02.000And then the heat keeps them suppressed, their activity suppressed.
02:41:59.000So anyway, when you have that mindset and you got to keep pushing and on that hunt, I was just covering mile after mile after mile looking for fresh sign because the elk weren't moving.
02:42:08.000So I'd do, you know, 10, 13 miles a day just looking for a fresh track.
02:42:13.000And finally, we saw Ron Hofsus, who has logged down there forever.
02:43:37.000Anyway, I was going to kill this bear, but he took off.
02:43:41.000And so then I was focused back up on the bull and I get up there and the bull hadn't bugled in a while, but I saw there was a spike and a satellite bull on a cow.
02:43:51.000And I take, I look up over the blackberries up on top of the ridge and I see his antlers.
02:43:56.000And I was just like, Jesus, that's a big bull.
02:45:56.000And I think people do it just like you know now because now you've done it.
02:46:03.000But you can't blame people who haven't done it for not knowing.
02:46:07.000No, and it's so hard when you watch, if you ever watch a hunting television show, most of them, I mean, there's a few that do a good job of sort of explaining, capturing what it's like, but most of them don't.
02:46:19.000There's a lot of flashy music and, you know, the kill shot and everybody's celebrating.
02:46:28.000You're seeing 22 minutes of something that probably took many, many days and a lot of struggle and so much training to get to that point where you could pull that off.
02:46:39.000Both cardio, hill running, all the different things you have to do and then shooting the bow constantly.
02:46:45.000With a rifle, you could pick up a rifle and not having shot for years.
02:46:49.000As long as you understand the principles of shooting a gun correctly and getting a surprise shot...
02:46:55.000If you're shooting off sticks, you could put that crosshair on an animal and pull, pull, pull, blam, and shoot the animal.
02:47:24.000Like, when you're in a situation where you need that adrenaline because your body's got to get the fuck out of there and do superhuman things as fast as you can, then in a situation like elk hunting, Right.