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00:02:40.000I literally, last night, because I literally was...
00:02:43.000There is definitely so much confusion because that side is ramping up the fear 100%, making it scarier than it is so they can get him to be president.
00:02:55.000And the other side is definitely saying from Trump on down, don't worry about this thing, so it makes it look like we did a good job and the economy comes back and all that stuff.
00:03:05.000So I'm like, this cognitive dissonance.
00:03:36.000Yeah, but if you want to look at other countries, look at Sweden, because they opened up completely, and they have less cases, and now they're back to normal.
00:03:51.000They live in different sort of circumstances.
00:03:52.000They have mostly smaller villages other than Stockholm, but they're fine.
00:03:59.000I know, but if you look at Spain and you look at France and you look at Moscow, I mean, these places, there's no political agenda in these places.
00:05:34.000They told me that this pilot was talking to me at the show, and he said his doctor, of some note, was saying that all of our pandemics have lasted 18 months.
00:05:47.000Despite what we try to do, restrictions, no restrictions, it runs its course.
00:05:51.00018 months is about where the fire starts to subside and you go back to normal.
00:06:42.000You're basically giving up your constitutional rights, and there's no real protection for you this way.
00:06:50.000There's no real protection for your business.
00:06:52.000There's no real protection for your livelihood.
00:06:54.000And even with all this, you're still dealing with Other kinds of horrible deaths and other kinds of horrible things that go along with the economic despair.
00:08:43.000But what I am saying is, I don't know how much, I think what you're getting is, you're getting a lot of people that are healthy, and they're going out, and they don't have it, and they're not giving it to anybody because they don't have it, and you're getting away with it.
00:08:54.000And everybody's wearing masks, and it's good to be cautious.
00:08:57.000But I don't necessarily know if you were in a room filled with people who had COVID, and you, unless you had an N95 mask, unless you have a real mask, I don't know if those fucking cloth masks are going to help you.
00:09:12.000I'm basing it on cities where they have the mask as a thing, and they made it mandatory that you wear these masks, and the numbers go down.
00:10:27.000And you didn't want to go back to the doctor and have some man take your pants off and make you cry in front of your mom, so you stayed healthy.
00:11:17.000They say that one of the things that happens with this disease is you actually don't want the immune system to react too violently to the disease.
00:11:44.000It originally comes out and gives you a dose of stuff and surrounds the virus.
00:11:49.000And then it goes up, and then it ramps up, and then it reboots, and then it sends another part.
00:11:54.000It was like four stages of what your immune system does, and because it has to be ramped up to attack this virus, it could actually hurt you more than the virus.
00:12:01.000Well, here it says, what does dexamethasone do?
00:12:06.000Dexamethasone is a corticosteroid hormone that decreases the body's natural immune response and reduces swelling and allergic reaction symptoms.
00:12:17.000This medication treats a number of conditions, including asthma, IBS, Crohn's disease, and a I've heard that.
00:13:05.000Yeah, you're the President of the United States.
00:13:06.000You should get everything they possibly have.
00:13:08.000All I'm getting at this by fucking with you here is that in these times where things are very unsure, a lot of times people like to say exactly what you need to do and what's happening.
00:13:19.000As long as people do this, we're okay.
00:13:21.000As long as we wear a mask, we're okay.
00:13:47.000After looking at it globally last night, and what that doctor said of this timeline, which is total hearsay, but it seems to make sense, it made me think all of this is noise and us all freaking out.
00:15:57.000He said something he knew wasn't true because he wanted people to react in a certain way, but then he still expects them to trust him after that.
00:16:06.000I'm not saying you shouldn't trust him.
00:16:16.000I mean, the idea was that we were panicked, and he thought, like, look, if I tell people everybody get a mask, then there's going to be this nationwide shortage of masks.
00:16:24.000I read this article of countries that have done better than other countries, South Korea, New Zealand.
00:16:32.000They have advantages about isolation and all that kind of stuff, and fewer people.
00:16:39.000But the main thing that they were saying is communication.
00:16:41.000Tell people the truth, and they'll react accordingly, and it calms the hysteria, and it puts trust in the people that are giving you the advice.
00:16:50.000So if he had come out and said, masks are important, use a bandana, and leave these for the healthcare workers, these are very important that these people on the front lines get it, that would have been so much better because then we wouldn't have the discussion when he comes out in September.
00:17:03.000My friend who's a doctor says the bandanas are useless.
00:17:08.000You look better than the plastic ones.
00:17:10.000Okay, if you weren't in a pandemic and you're wearing a bandana over your face like that, you look like either a douchebag or a bank robber.
00:17:17.000What about when you pull it down around your neck?
00:17:19.000You look like you're at Studio 54. You're a Chris Christopherson fan.
00:17:28.000A lot of guys at the gun range, they'll put bandanas around their neck because shells come flying, hot shells, and they can land in your collar and burn your neck.
00:21:09.000N95 masks is capable of filtering 95% of test aerosol containing the average particle size of 300 nm.
00:21:17.000Basically, N95 masks have a tight weave pattern with multiple layers that serve as a barrier to larger structures like viruses or simply spittle.
00:22:49.000And that we're in the middle of an election makes it so confusing because everyone's using whatever little information they have to their advantage.
00:22:56.000But there's also the confusion of, I'm in LA, I go to LAX. Joe, I could have gotten there five minutes before my flight.
00:23:05.000I'm the only guy going through security.
00:23:08.000I walk right up to the gate and get on the plane.
00:27:58.000Florida, I don't even think Florida's really ignoring it.
00:28:01.000The governor, all bullshit aside, the governor put a chart up and he was saying the issue that we really need to concern ourselves with is people 70 plus.
00:28:08.000Like 70 plus are the ones who have a significant risk of dying.
00:28:12.000And he's saying everybody else, what we really need to consider is the people that have underlying conditions.
00:28:16.000And we need to, you know, those people...
00:28:19.000I mean, this is what should have been done all along.
00:28:20.000The people that are at high risk should have been sheltered.
00:29:39.000Like, what you did for that club was, yeah, everybody kind of knows, like, how you had such an impact on it.
00:29:46.000But actually seeing it, you know, we're with you all the time, and you see the...
00:29:50.000But seeing, like, in a documentary style, starting with the Mencia of it and getting to now, man, it made me want to kiss you right on the lips.
00:30:08.000Because to have such a historic place that was so bright and great and then really decimated and fell on its ass, and you're really the force that brought it back to this, was like, oh, it was just great.
00:30:56.000You're going up, you're on a lineup with 15 murderers and everyone's killing in front of you.
00:31:01.000And there's a lot of people that would go there and they would have like sort of mediocre sets and they would be upset because they had a career.
00:31:46.000But the exciting thing is the people that do come through, and then the people that are coming up, like Laura Beetz, like Annie Letterman, like all these young kids that are coming up, Allie Makovsky.
00:31:55.000And then you have these people that are there and established and looking to break through, like Tony Hinchcliffe, guys who are killers.
00:32:26.000There's a darkness to the store that's undeniable, and I think it comes from it being Ciro's nightclub, because it was Bugsy Siegel's nightclub, and people were legitimately murdered there.
00:33:45.000And he believed in this thing called morphic resonance, that all these things are connected in some sort of indescribable, unmeasurable way.
00:35:23.000It's got many edges to it, which is just like comedy.
00:35:27.000The thing that I loved about the store is not just that it's this historic place where all these great comics started out, like Kinison and Richard Pryor, and all these people made their mark there, but it's Right.
00:37:40.000And it was filled with good feelings and bad feelings, and there was a lot of emotions, and there was a lot of arguments, and there was a lot of tension.
00:38:08.000And in the past, everyone had this famine mentality.
00:38:12.000If you got a sitcom and I was trying out for the same part, I felt like you took something from me.
00:38:17.000Like, fuck, there's only one part in the sitcom and Tom got it.
00:38:20.000Or if you were trying out for a game show or you're trying out for a talk show and there's five of us are out for it and one of us gets it.
00:38:27.000So there's this weird, creepy competitiveness.
00:38:30.000And if you were on a morning radio show, and then there was a guy who was across town that was on the radio at the same time, you weren't his buddy.
00:39:27.000Like, if I help you, it only helps me because people know you're funny and they go, oh, I can listen to Joe because every time he tells you about a comic, I know they're funny.
00:40:14.000I remember when I got a pilot or something.
00:40:18.000And early on, and Giraldo, Greg Giraldo was my friend, said, we all went out to dinner with Esty and Manny from the Comedy Cellar, and Greg and his wife, and myself and my wife,
00:45:03.000Well, people don't know what we're talking about, but we should try to explain that there was a time where you would go to the Montreal Comedy Festival and you'd get a development deal.
00:45:11.000And this is like everybody would cash in.
00:45:13.000You'd go get a development deal and then they would try to do a pilot.
00:45:17.000And I knew so many people that lost their fucking minds when they got deals to do a pilot.
00:45:24.000I had a phone call from this guy, and I'm not gonna say his name, but he was a terrible comedian.
00:45:28.000He calls you up and he says, hey, listen, I know you've got a show that you're working on right now, but I'm telling you, my show is going to go to air and I want you to play my brother.
00:45:43.000And he starts telling me all these crazy things, like there's a guaranteed pickup and if this doesn't pick up, then NBC Universal's got second position and they're going to pick it up.
00:53:10.000Yeah, because you have some control over the universe.
00:53:14.000But you also know how each other works, and you all have a common goal, and you've done it before, so you know how to do it.
00:53:20.000Or you have these people that are these super powerful figures like Cameron, who just takes control of everything.
00:53:27.000I've heard James Cameron will grab a paintbrush, give me that fucking thing, you don't know what you're doing, and paint the wall, because it's just like he's got a vision.
00:53:34.000And if they let him do it, you get Avatar.
00:55:47.000We were on for five years, but the last year was the year after Phil was murdered.
00:55:52.000So the last year was with John Lovitz.
00:55:55.000He took over the Hartman spot, and he was a really good friend of Phil's.
00:56:00.000He had done an episode before, and so he would probably be the only guy that we would have embraced to do that because it was just like he sort of fit that groove.
00:56:30.000What people decide to cancel and don't decide to cancel, unless you're a giant hit, unless you're like Modern Family or something like that, you really never know.
01:00:13.000It's really fascinating to see them discussing their own creations and see outsiders who are also technologists who didn't Didn't invent these things, but are seeing the patterns of these things and understand it from, you know, a really educated perspective.
01:00:28.000They're saying this could lead to civil war.
01:00:30.000Like, people are getting more and more divided.
01:00:31.000And it shows in the film how social media has made people far more polarized, far more divided than ever before.
01:00:47.000Well, there's a lot of dangerous parts about it, but the thought bubbles, the fact that these people get in these bubbles of thought where everybody around you thinks your way and everybody who thinks a different way is the enemy.
01:01:00.000This is a really dangerous part of the reality that we live in today because it's not what we anticipated.
01:01:07.000I thought that the internet and the age of information and all that we're experiencing right now would bring about an understanding and a nuanced perspective.
01:02:34.000There's so many, and it's so easy to look at him, and even though in his mind, he's got to be a tough guy, if people come at him, he's going to come back at them, but this is sort of the mentality that someone takes if you're battling trolls online.
01:02:48.000You don't understand, like, you, as the president, you're in this rare position.
01:02:54.000You can't be responding to individuals.
01:03:01.000You're Donald Trump who is also the president of the United States.
01:03:05.000And if you don't adjust the way you communicate with people and bring people together...
01:03:11.000And one of the things that Obama did brilliantly Was he made you feel like America was something you could be proud of because that guy's representing you.
01:03:22.000This really articulate, super smooth statesman who seemed elegant and he seemed like composed.
01:03:32.000And when he would speak, regardless of his policies, you know, regardless of the criticism you might have of his administration, the way he handled the role of president...
01:04:11.000That psychopath, he took you up on that little challenge.
01:04:15.000But you take someone that has lack of empathy and doesn't really see the responsibility of the office and what he says, and you combine that with that technology.
01:04:38.000You're asking a guy in his 70s to change who he is.
01:04:41.000And the thing that made him successful, the reason why he was in all these rap songs, like if you go back and listen to rap music in the 80s and 90s, Trump's name was thrown up all the time.
01:05:18.000There's always a group of people that hate the president because they didn't vote for him, and they want him to fuck up, and they want him to fail, and they want everything that he's doing to be wrong.
01:05:26.000But do you remember when they got mad at Obama for wearing a tan suit?
01:06:33.000There's social media and the divide that comes, and this is where the social dilemma comes in place, there's a divide that comes about because of the way they've engineered these algorithms, which is really disturbing.
01:06:46.000So whatever you're into, it finds those things and accentuates them, because it just wants you to stay on more.
01:07:44.000It was showing how things that people disagree with, things that make people upset, those are the things that people are much more likely to engage with.
01:07:53.000And you're like, fuck you, fucking liberals, or fuck you, you fucking racist.
01:07:58.000It's this thing that is a part of being a person, where you seek, especially when you don't feel like you're being heard.
01:08:07.000When you're at home, and you're sitting on the toilet, and you're going through Facebook, and you see some shit about, what the fuck, burn the flag, you motherfuckers!
01:08:15.000And you start making these messages, and you're more likely to do that than seeing some beautiful story about these parents that adopt this kid, and they give him a home, and he comes from a bad part of the world.
01:08:29.000You're not going to go, way to go for you.
01:08:31.000Let me write down all the amazing things about what you're doing.
01:10:12.000But the idea is that lithium, which is a primary component of these batteries, you're gonna need a massive amount of that shit.
01:10:22.000And that shit is called conflict minerals.
01:10:25.000Conflict minerals, one of the reasons why they call them that is because these fucking minerals are in the Congo, they're in Afghanistan, they're in all these places that are, you know, there's a lot of people vying for them, like China's trying to get into the Congo.
01:11:24.000Like if you heal the soil, you'll heal the earth.
01:11:29.000Well, regenerative farming is the best way to heal the soil.
01:11:33.000And there are some people that are experts on regenerative farming.
01:11:36.000And regenerative farming is essentially what they're doing is farming the way they farmed thousands of years ago or hundreds of years ago.
01:11:43.000The way you're supposed to, like, ruminants, animals, eat grass, they shit, the manure actually brings these nutrients back into the earth and that acts as fertilizer for new plants to grow.
01:11:58.000And it's supposed to have a carbon neutral effect when it's done correctly.
01:12:02.000The problem is, we've adapted to this world where you want to pull in a jack-in-the-box, get a cheeseburger in five seconds, and that has got to be cheap meat, and cheap meat comes from factory farming, and factory farming is universally regarded as fucking disgusting.
01:14:22.000He didn't shoot him, but they sent him to jail, and then they released him because of the coronavirus, and they got pictures of him at a party, having a good old time, and it was like, oh, he's social distance violating, so they put him back in jail.
01:16:39.000According to McKenzie's confession, Takeshi69 paid that guy to shoot at Chief Keef.
01:16:46.000Supposedly, in an attempt to scare the rival rather than seriously injure him, instead, Kuda opted to outsource the shooting to someone else, but still pled guilty to assault with a dangerous weapon in aid of racketeering, which is a maximum prison sentence of 20 years.
01:17:01.000He's only 22 years old, but likely to spend the next couple of decades behind bars.
01:17:33.000Like, if you had to go on the run, okay, you get busted for something.
01:17:36.000Maybe you didn't do it, but the fuzz is coming for you.
01:17:40.000Would it be possible to escape the law for the rest of your life nowadays?
01:17:44.000I was talking to a man who knows things.
01:17:47.000And he was telling me that there is technology that they're working on that's going to let them hear fully clear, completely crystal clear conversations from satellites.
01:18:50.000Well, if you really believe in determinism...
01:18:52.000If you could get a computer, you could devise a computer that's so powerful that it could accurately anticipate individual events crisscrossing and compiling together to create a specific result, and you knew they would force someone's hand to do something.
01:23:04.000Like, he was out at a barbershop before they put him in, and I don't know if he was on parole or on appeal, not on parole, on bail or on appeal, but he was at a barbershop with these guys, and they made a video of it.
01:26:18.000Someone was convicted of a crime in India back in the day, and we covered this when I did that Joe Rogan Questions Everything show, because of fMRI.
01:26:28.000FMRI is functional magnetic imagery, and I think that's the right terms.
01:26:33.000But basically, it's reading the mind and reading patterns that And they decided that this person, I think it might have been a woman, was convicted of a crime because they had functional knowledge of the crime scene.
01:26:51.000Now, this was in another country, I believe it was in India, and I talked to a neuroscientist in America, and they said, you would never accept this in America because functional knowledge of a crime scene could be obtained by just examining evidence.
01:27:08.000If someone charged you with a murder, said, Tom, I know you killed that guy, and you're like, what?
01:27:12.000And then they show you the photos, you would have access to the information.
01:27:16.000And if you had that in your head, thinking, oh my god, someone killed this person, and now they're blaming it on me, how could they think I did it?
01:27:23.000And you could possibly have functional knowledge of where it happened and what happened, just based on someone describing to you what you've been charged with.
01:27:31.000How do you find out if someone has functional knowledge?
01:37:53.000So it's just giving you the most applicable results for the things that you're looking for.
01:37:58.000But it's not doing it in a way where it's curating it for your own interest.
01:38:02.000If you try to find things that are controversial, and we've tried to find that on the podcast before, Where Jamie will Google something and I'll know it to be correct, but Google will not show that it's correct because maybe the correct answer is not politically correct.
01:38:16.000So you have to go through several pages and maybe you even have to Google it in a very specific way to get to the heart of the science behind what's wrong with the consensus opinion.
01:38:29.000That's the case with a lot of nutrition things.
01:38:31.000It's the case with a lot of things regarding anything controversial, anything where there's a political motive to sway the argument one way or the other.
01:38:41.000It's so amazing how deep you have to dive, to cross-reference stuff, to really try and assemble a truthful opinion.
01:39:15.000I don't know if they know it either, because they didn't think it was going to happen in the first time.
01:39:19.000Jack Dorsey was testifying, I think it was before Congress, and he was saying that 12 years ago when we created Twitter, we had no idea that this was going to be a situation that we hadn't anticipated.
01:40:07.000I remember when it first came out, it was like, wow, there would probably never have been slavery if there had been Twitter, because people would have exposed it so early, and it just seems so hopeful.
01:40:17.000But of course, all the scummy people get it, and then just...
01:40:57.000They're desperate, they're sad, and then you've got looting, and you've got the riots, and so you get racial tension, you've got violence, you've got this anti-police sentiment, which also leads to more instability in the streets, more instability in the cities, and less safety, and fear.
01:41:50.000Or people from other countries that are trying to incite it.
01:41:53.000Assume you're interacting with mentally unwell people because almost everyone who's using it in that way is in one way or another mentally ill.
01:42:03.000Or you put your phone in the drawer and you go to the park and all of a sudden everything calms down.
01:42:10.000And then there's no cops because you wanted to defund the police.
01:42:14.000Everything calms down and goes away because you're not living in this weird reality.
01:42:21.000You're just living in real life and you're not participating in all of that.
01:42:39.000You're in the park being all zen and all of a sudden a flash mob shows up that organized on Twitter and you're like, what the hell is happening here?
01:45:07.000So he says, the picture looks possible because his elbow's up and stable, but the video where he's at his desk showing the weight off, he moves it around out at an angle that would be the smallest head of the top of the bicep taking all the weight,
01:50:12.000But his tricep doesn't wiggle when he points at something like Mike.
01:50:18.000But it's nice that I could ask, like, everybody's, you know, you wonder about stuff like that, and you look at them doing that like, is that real?
01:50:25.000And then you ask experts, and the experts are like, uh-uh.
01:53:35.000Because he's always been at a 24-hour fitness, so I can see him bringing in stacks of fake plates because people would see them and you just take a picture of them.
01:59:10.000Because eggs will never become a chicken.
01:59:15.000People want to look at it like you're doing some harm to the chicken.
01:59:18.000But if you have pets, chickens as pets, and you just let them free range, they run around, they eat bugs, they eat grass, they eat all these different things, they give you this incredibly nutritious eggs, and you don't have to worry.
01:59:45.000And they'll start picking their feathers off their body so that they can have skin on the egg, and they won't get off that egg.
01:59:54.000And you come near them, they peck at you, they want to preserve that egg, because in their head, they're confused as to why they're not having chicks.
02:00:03.000So I had to take them, and I would separate them from the other chicks, and you had to put them in a smaller container where they couldn't sit on the thing.
02:00:41.000The only way an egg can be a chick is if there's a rooster.
02:00:44.000So these chickens, these female chickens, which by the way, I didn't know until I was 40. I thought they just fucking had an egg and the egg became a chicken.
02:00:55.000You were eating it before it became a chick.
02:01:19.000But they also, they damage themselves.
02:01:20.000They pluck all their feathers out and shit.
02:01:22.000But if you take them and you put them in this small container for a number of days, like I forget how many days it is, they'll eventually get over it and then they act normal again.
02:01:33.000So we did that and then I put this smaller container on the outside of the larger chicken coop, right?
02:01:39.000Because it, for whatever reason, I didn't bring it inside.
02:02:46.000So I'm sitting there, and we were playing games.
02:02:50.000We were playing, like, Sorry or something with my family.
02:02:53.000And I look out the window, and I see this fucking coyote with a chicken in its mouth running across my yard and bounces over my fence like it doesn't exist.
02:07:28.000If you shame them and yell at them and we're better than you and you tell them what to do and you're gonna shame the shit out of them, then they all rebel.
02:09:12.000And Trump kicked it, and he's fat, and he's 74. You need to get on the same shit they put The Rock on when he was doing Fast and the Furious.
02:10:13.000It's a thing that you see in other people, you admire it, and a lot of people, they like to pretend they don't admire it because they don't have it in themselves, and so they try to dismiss it.
02:10:37.000But people who consider themselves intellectuals, or at least intelligent, or artists, or whatever, they look at those people as like they're doing something frivolous.
02:10:47.000And maybe perhaps my support of it is just reinforcing the meathead part of me that I enjoy.
02:11:40.000You had one post, literally, I saw it as I was doing a pour over coffee in the morning before my radio show, and you said something like, my inner bitch wanted me to go and just have coffee and skip the workout, and I was sitting there, like, literally making the coffee.
02:16:30.000That the people that are in pain that are drinking like that and taking the drugs, artists that are doing that stuff, that that ends up killing the art.
02:16:39.000And that if you can find something else for your brain that gets you away from those things, you'll be able to create.
02:18:43.000Four rounds are, you do eight Tabatas, which is 20 seconds of sprinting, followed by 10 seconds of rest, and you do that for a cycle of eight.
02:19:18.000And then I moved it up to 8. And then I moved it up to 10. And then I moved it up to 13. So now I'm basically at 52 minutes of sprinting and resting.
02:21:43.000There was a place that we, when we were working in Phoenix once, and we went to this gym, we were doing stand-up in Phoenix, and we went to this gym during the day, and they had these cardio machines that were exactly what I always wanted.
02:21:55.000I said, why can't someone come up with a cardio machine where as you're running, you're doing like a video game?
02:22:02.000And so you had like fire in your left hand and I think what you did with your right hand.
02:22:07.000But it was like an elliptical machine and the only way you went forward is by doing this.
02:22:14.000So you have a screen in front of you and you were shooting pew pew pew and then you would turn it pew pew pew.
02:23:17.000Wonder on the beach is pretty fucking good.
02:23:19.000It's not quite the same as that, but it's really good.
02:23:22.000But anyway, the point is, if you could have something like that where it's difficult to do, but also fun, like you put on these goggles and you're doing Halo or something, or you're in Quake, and you're running down the hallway and shooting at things,
02:30:51.000Dude, sometimes you go to an arcade, like at a bowling alley or something, you watch some dude who's like an expert at that shit, and you're like, oh, okay.
02:31:48.000Because if you can walk in VR, I feel like the next step is you're going to want to be able to jump, and if you can't physically jump, you have to hit a button to jump.
02:32:16.000Like, you can turn a positive into a negative, because the negative has always been, for me at least, they're just a massive waste of my time.
02:34:21.000It's a VR game that you go to a warehouse, and they have it set up so you have the parameters of the game, and you put on a haptic feedback vest, you have VR goggles, and they hand you guns and all these different things, and then you go and you duke it out with zombies.
02:34:36.000There's this one, Deadwood Mansion, it's called.
02:37:24.000We're having a good time, and it goes back to COVID. I wasn't even thinking COVID. I was thinking, like, aliens coming or Halloween decorations coming to life and hunting us down.
02:37:35.000There's a couple more curveballs waiting for us.
02:37:39.000Well, the Trump getting COVID, I thought was like, wow, this movie's lit.
02:39:52.000No, they should put together teams of like mixed, these four people and these four people of mixed ideas and get the best ideas and then they're going to run as a platform rather than as an individual.
02:40:03.000I think, initially, the idea of representative democracy and the idea of a Republican Party and a Democratic Party was a great idea.
02:40:13.000But I think the problem is people form this loyalty to this side and this blind loyalty, blind loyalty to their team, and then they have confirmation bias and everything this team does that's good, that's all you focus on,
02:40:28.000and you decide that this team's narrative is correct and you subscribe.
02:40:32.000Full on to the ideology and the other people are the enemy and the other people are sexist and racist or the other people are Marxist and leftist or whatever you decide is wrong with the other people.
02:42:09.000One of the reasons I think that I don't think, if I would go out on a limb, that I think Trump is going to lose is because people just can't deal with the anxiety.
02:42:20.000Like we were saying earlier, it can't be at a hot boil.
02:42:24.000We've been at a hot boil for four years and people are exhausted.
02:42:27.000They just want it to go back to someone calm.
02:44:02.000I just care about how he acts in the parking lot with me.
02:44:04.000I was just down in Salt Lake a couple weeks ago, and I was driving on the street, and I saw these two dudes with white shirts with ties on, with a clipboard, walking door to door.
02:46:39.000That guy's got to be the measured adult that kind of takes in all of those people and makes sense of it and translates it and leads and Keeps us all united, makes everybody...
02:46:50.000The most upsetting part of this run has been just turning Americans on Americans.
02:46:55.000That's never happened in my life, where we're making each other the enemy, and we're not.
02:47:00.000You and you tour, and you see people, they're not at each other's throats.
02:47:03.000They just want to raise their kids, make their money, live their lives.
02:48:02.000We're a couple of touring joke-slingers talking shit about global politics.
02:48:06.000But I do know when somebody is turning us against each other, and he likes doing that.
02:48:11.000Well, he certainly likes the battle, you know, and that was what I admired most about Obama, was that the way he commanded respect was just with grace.
02:48:23.000The way he handled himself at press conferences, the way he discussed things, he was very measured.
02:48:29.000Even when he was attacked, you know, he would be measured.
02:48:40.000That's what we need, really, legitimately.
02:48:41.000If the dad in the house is an alcoholic and he comes home and you don't know who's coming in that day, is he going to attack me or is he going to...
02:50:40.000It's just a kind of a sense, a growing sense as you do it over time, that there is...
02:50:46.000A bigger consciousness that there's something that is more compelling and more uniting with all of us than what we're shown on the surface.
02:50:55.000Well, I've been doing a lot of breath exercises, breathing exercises.
02:50:59.000I do these, the one that I enjoy the most because it puts me in kind of a trance.
02:51:04.000It's six long seconds in, six deep breaths, like a six-second deep breath, and a six-second exhale.
02:53:26.000And sometimes it's still busy, the thoughts will still kind of come in, but 20 minutes pops off and you come out and it's exactly what you're describing.
02:53:41.000I think we operate too much on momentum, and I think thoughts and little ideas, maybe anxiety, they cling to you as you're going along, and then they're stuck with you.
02:53:53.000And then you've got all these things that are stuck with you, whether it's bills or relationships or struggle or commitments, things you have to do, things you have to resolve, things that you're...
02:59:02.000I miss having you in LA. I miss having me in LA too.
02:59:05.000And it's weird because, like, you know, I mean, the store, it'll probably feel more pronounced when the comedy store opens up and you're not around.
02:59:14.000But just knowing that you're not there is a little weird.
02:59:17.000But I like that I can just get on a plane and come here.