Rapper, entrepreneur, entrepreneur and presidential hopeful, Chance The Rapper joins Jemele to discuss why he decided to run for President in 2020 and why he believes he has the potential to be the next President of the United States. He also discusses why he thinks he has a chance to win the election and what it takes to become the next president. He also talks about why he doesn t believe Oprah Winfrey should be our next President and why she should not have been the last person to ever run for office and why being a pastor is a better choice than being a politician. And he also explains why he does not believe that being a celebrity is better than being the president and what he would do if he were to become President. The 500 is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. New Artist/Song influenced by Chance the Rapper: Mr. West is a multi-platinum artist, Grammy Award winner, multi-award winning artist, and multi- Grammy Award winning artist. He is an American singer, songwriter, actor, producer, and philanthropist. He was born in Los Angeles, California and raised in the Bronx, New York City. He is a devout Christian and is married to Jussie Smolletta, an African-American woman who has a son, daughter, and a stepson with whom he also has a daughter, a son and a daughter with a Haitian-American adopted by an American adopted Haitian-born Haitian mother. . He is also a pastor, and is a friend of the late great Beyonc and his wife, Michelle Obama, who he has an adopted by his adopted daughter. and adopted by a Haitian adopted by the Haitian orphanage in the adopted Haitian family. in the U.S. at the age of 5 years old by the couple after his adopted Haitian orphaned by his adoptive family in the late Haitian family by the American couple. He has a beautiful daughter, aged 8 years old. , and he is a model, 3-year old son and 3-month old son, aged 7- aged 8-year-old son, 6-month-old girl, aged 9-month, and 2-month older, aged 6-months old . Chance the youngest daughter, age 7-month and 5-month Haitian-old, aged 10-month & 2-yr old, aged 4-month? And so on and so on, etc.
00:00:35.000It was something that God put on my heart back in 2015. A few days before the MTV Awards, it hit me in the shower.
00:00:46.000And when I first thought of it, I just started...
00:00:49.000Like laughing to myself and it like all this like joy came over my over my body just through through my soul and I could just I just felt that energy I felt that spirit so then two days later I accepted the Michael Jackson video Vanguard Awards at the MTV Awards and I Instead of performing,
00:01:12.000you know, my array of hit songs, you know, I gave just my perspective on award shows.
00:01:21.000But always I knew at the end I was going to tell people I'm running for office.
00:01:26.000I'm running for president in 2020. And, you know, just to have the it even took heart to say it in that sense.
00:01:37.000And people are just like, oh, like their minds are blown.
00:01:40.000And then I was hanging out with different...
00:01:43.000I had different friends that were, you know, some people in the music industry, some people tech elites, different things like that.
00:01:55.000You know, they just really took it as a joke.
00:01:59.000And they're telling me all these millions of reasons why I couldn't run for president.
00:02:02.000I remember running into Oprah two days or one day after that.
00:02:06.000She's like, you don't want to be president.
00:02:08.000You know, people just, you know, thought projecting, putting this on you.
00:02:12.000And I remember saying one of my responses to one of the people that one of the naysayers was, well, I'll definitely be a billionaire by that time.
00:02:24.000And not that that's a reason why someone should become president, but it's to say, you know, at that time I was 50, around $50 million in debt.
00:02:38.000And I knew I had the confidence that I would be able to turn that around.
00:02:43.000And now, you know, just going into, I want to just give you a, that's a clear answer.
00:04:54.000There's people who will say to me, they'll say, well, music is bigger than politics or more influential than politics or celebrities are more influential.
00:05:06.000And I thought of it like if I was a pastor of a hundred thousand person church, but then I was also a captain, a sailor.
00:05:16.000And then we went to war and I said, I'm going to man this ship that has a thousand people, a thousand soldiers on it because God is calling me.
00:05:28.000To take this position, even though I'm the pastor for, you know, however big my audience is in hip-hop, in music, or as just an influencer, a celebrity, or just as a dad and a husband in my house,
00:06:22.000Why God has called me to take this position.
00:06:26.000So when you say a visionary, you think of yourself in terms of like as an artist, as a creator, as someone who has these thoughts that they manifest in terms of music and art and creation and design, the things that you do.
00:06:39.000That's why you think you're different, as a visionary.
00:08:34.000It's a contract that my friend, the head of Dropbox use, and that a lot of tech guys use, and it's a standardized deal.
00:08:43.000So one of the ideas I had when I was, as I'm in this process of innovating, I'm not in war with the music industry, it's just, it's time for us to innovate.
00:08:55.000And we need to have contracts that Makes sense with exactly how we sell music.
00:09:00.000So, you know, people, every vicinia, and that's like every 20 years, that's like the decade is 10, vicinia is 20. And as you see now, it's like the world has just stopped for a second.
00:09:14.000And there's an opportunity to look and say, what are the things we need?
00:09:19.000So, I don't know if you saw when I posted my contract, I had 10 contracts that kept on putting me inside a labyrinth.
00:09:26.000And there's things that we don't need.
00:09:27.000Now, I believe that the distribution partner that the label is, like Prince would go and say, oh, we don't need the distribution partner, especially if Prince was, you know, really alive and thriving in this internet era.
00:09:43.000I'm the kind of person where I'm not trying to go and eliminate anyone's job.
00:09:50.000So record labels are afraid of saying, okay, we're going to hand over the distribution completely to you guys, which is, you know, that's a possibility.
00:10:57.000You know, it's like when the Me Too movement happened...
00:11:01.000You know, it wasn't just the guys that were getting tagged and, you know, some of the guys should have got hit with it, some guys shouldn't.
00:11:07.000You know, that's not what I'm here to talk about.
00:11:16.000That's why I really love that Black Mirror episode when, you know, everyone was making comments, and anyone that even made a comment, the bees, it was about these, you know, mechanical bees, anyone, and this is a spoiler alert if you haven't seen this episode, but anyone who made a comment,
00:12:50.000My $5 billion net worth and $300 million of cash that I see a year, music is like negative $4 million for me.
00:13:00.000So these contracts for me were kind of like Wangro and Heat.
00:13:04.000Where this guy had everything, but he still said, Wangro messed up this heist that we were going to do.
00:13:13.000Like, I look at the music industry, not music and the love of music itself, but the music industry, I look at it like Wangro, like, I blame, you know...
00:13:25.000The loss of my mother, partially on the entertainment industry.
00:13:32.000Always fighting to represent who you are against media, entertainment industry that's trying to tear down anybody that's not going with the flow.
00:14:18.000The conspiracy was that the Chinese triad killed him the same way they killed Bruce, but the coroner's report was that Bruce died from a reaction to a medication, right?
00:14:30.000Yeah, I mean, but I think about that anytime I go to the hospital.
00:14:34.000I'm very, you know, I'm mindful of that stuff.
00:14:38.000You think about, like, Bob Marley, they didn't just JFK or MLK him.
00:14:44.000There's, like, reports that it was something in his toe or...
00:16:16.000And I say on a new song, I say, if I would put myself in harm's way to get my masters, they would put their self in harm's way to stay the master.
00:16:27.000There's a complete parallel to the way the music industry works and the way the world currently works and the influence that America has on other countries and the way governments work.
00:16:42.000The influence and the way government and the way people in power and control deal with You know, disaster relief, deal with Haiti, deal with the Bahamas.
00:17:05.000I asked myself this, I asked someone a week ago, like, how much is America in debt?
00:17:13.000And they were like, this many trillion.
00:17:15.000And then I asked a rhetorical question, but the dumbest question I've ever asked myself, I said, well, you know, how much does the earth cost?
00:17:58.000We're experiencing the fall of Rome or the Titanic has now hit a glacier.
00:18:03.000And there's people who would prefer to go down with the Titanic than to get on a lifeboat because they don't want to get seawater on their dress or on their nice outfit.
00:18:14.000People are so programmed and brainwashed into classism and protectionism that And it's difficult for people to embrace innovation unless it has a tag on it.
00:18:33.000It's got a name brand connected to it that says, with this innovation, you will be better than the person, you'll be better than your next door neighbor.
00:18:40.000You know, when I made Sunday service, I completely stopped rapping because I didn't know how to rap for God.
00:18:48.000You know, all my raps always had like a You know, like nasty jokes on it.
00:18:55.000And then, you know, I made—when I went to the hospital—I know you want to get into this—when I went to the hospital in 2016, I wrote Start a Church in Calabasas.
00:19:11.000And as we left from 2018, going into 2019, I said, I'm not going to let one Sunday go by without starting this church.
00:19:19.000And there's people who said it wasn't a church and different things, but to start a ministry, I'm like the little drummer boy where I'm saying, you know, this is all I got to bring, my drum.
00:19:27.000I might not be well-versed in the Word, but I know how to make music, and I know how to put this choir together, and all things can be made good together.
00:19:38.000So it like quickly became the best choir of all time because all the best singers moved to California.
00:19:45.000But a lot of them grew up in the church, so it's like the opportunity for them to actually get paid singing for God, because I would be funding it.
00:19:54.000And that, for me, was like a tithe for me to fund Sunday service.
00:19:57.000And I was four months in before I gave my life to God.
00:21:13.000Because the problems are the opportunities.
00:21:16.000There's an opportunity to solve things.
00:21:19.000And Kurzweil, he created the keyboard, Kurzweil.
00:21:22.000Uh, he, he has this video that Mark Romanek, this, uh, director that shot 99 Problems for Jay-Z, which is, like, my favorite, uh, maybe, like, top five or top two favorite videos of all time.
00:21:37.000Uh, he also did, uh, Closer for Trent Reznor, and I like, I just grew up on MTV in the 90s, and I love Mark Romanek videos, but he would share, um, He'd share little bits and pieces.
00:21:50.000I remember Ray Kurzweil talking about the ability for us to have a utopia, but us being led by the least noble and the most greedy.
00:22:01.000But if someone or when someone gets in a position of leadership That is in service to God and in service to people,
00:23:19.000I like all different kind of preachers, but there's some type of preachers, they get up, they have the Bible in their hand, then they close the Bible, and then they just talk for two hours.
00:25:41.000Now, you know, you could argue if the Watch the Throne production was stronger or better than Jesus is King production, but when I go and I've been working with Dr. Dre and some of the beats would just be like, you know, the hardest beats possible.
00:25:58.000And it's something that was very spiritual and meditative about the mix on Jesus as King, that it wasn't hitting as hard as Jesus or hitting as hard as Watch the Throne.
00:26:12.000It was like, this is how God wanted me to make this sonic painting.
00:26:19.000And the way he wanted me to communicate.
00:26:37.000And I'll tell you, like, my formula for these hymns I'm writing, because I'm writing...
00:26:41.000The songs that we're doing at Sunday Service is basically my book of hymns for the future Gospel University that I'm creating, where I've envisioned and will manifest a 200,000-seat stadium,
00:27:01.000circular, with 100,000 Gospel singers.
00:27:06.000And people will go to this university and they will train the way, you know, a Russian Olympic swimmer.
00:27:13.000You know, I picture like they would be in the pool six days a week at least, if not seven days.
00:27:19.000But for people who sing for the church or, you know, you know, Because it's a Tide, it's pro bono, it's all this, like, people don't practice that as much as we practice going to studio to rap or practice playing basketball if we're in the NBA. So it's making the NBA,
00:27:51.000I envision that, for God, a hundred thousand people sometimes singing in harmony, sometimes in unison.
00:28:00.000Glory, glory, O God Almighty, we lift our hands and But picture a hundred thousand people in unison and that feeling,
00:28:28.000what that would do for our spirits, our souls, it's healing.
00:28:33.000There's natural forms of healing about our environment, The friends that we're around, what we're wearing, what we're eating, our diet.
00:28:43.000So Donda is a design company that I formed around 10 years ago.
00:28:51.000And some of the people that worked at Donda now have went on to become heads of fashion houses, like Virgil's the head of Louis Vuitton, and he was the head of Donda at a certain point.
00:29:02.000Another guy that worked at Donda is now the head of Givenchy.
00:29:25.000Things of our past and things of our now to create our future.
00:29:29.000So it's an organization created to guarantee the future of the human race, really.
00:29:37.000I thought about even calling it Edna because I see us all as superheroes and Edna was the designer in The Incredibles, which is kind of almost really similar to Donda.
00:29:47.000I'm just seeing these lineups and stuff.
00:29:49.000So now Our focus is food, clothing, shelter, communication, education, and transportation.
00:29:58.000So at the school that I just created, Yeezy Christian Academy, you know, we call NASA, we call different places about this hydroponic vertical growing garden.
00:30:12.000You know, the idea of the garden is, from A to Z, you have to be able to make your food right there, fully sustainable, right there on your land.
00:30:19.000And, you know, there's a bunch of people like, oh, I made this salad right here.
00:30:23.000It's like, mm-mm, that's not good enough.
00:30:25.000You still gotta go to the grocery store for 80%, 60% of your stuff.
00:30:30.000I remember this one, you know, this one farmer we had.
00:30:34.000You know, he wanted to build this class for the kids and all this.
00:30:38.000We're going to show the kids this thing.
00:32:03.000And he says, no, I'm saying we're going to use a mirror and it's going to connect to a steam engine and that's going to push the water back up.
00:32:11.000And I was like, after like screaming at the guy, I was like, look, if I had known physics, I wouldn't have been screaming at my engineer.
00:32:19.000So if we think about what we're learning in school to learn physics, to learn farming, I was talking to A friend of mine that's a rapper and super God-following,
00:33:17.000I want to just simplify and round up the principle behind the Donda way of thinking is we've got all this information and all this, you know, these scientific Exploration,
00:33:36.000these things that Tesla never completed, these things that DaVinci never completed.
00:33:41.000And we can look at all of these things and see how do we create the most primitive versions of this to create a fully sustainable ecosystem, which is...
00:33:53.000You know, what COVID actually helped us to, you know, get closer to our families, get closer to our children, understand like, oh, wow, that, you know, that was mapped out for us to be 50 minutes away from our home and our kids' school to be 30 minutes away and to put us in traffic for that amount of time.
00:34:10.000And these cities have been designed...
00:34:13.000To promote industry and just to make more money, they haven't been designed to promote happiness.
00:34:18.000So we're at this paradigm shift in our existence.
00:34:22.000You know, it was when Mohammed hit the market, I think that's who it was, and brought money because before it was slave and trade.
00:34:28.000And this is something, you know, dishonorable men honor money.
00:34:50.000You know, it's not even backed by anything.
00:34:51.000I don't want to like go too far into that.
00:34:53.000But when you unprogram yourself, you see that there's other forms of currency now, like relationships are A more important currency than money itself.
00:35:05.000It's like the end of the movie that our existence would be pre-COVID, post-COVID. And so as the Titanic is crashing and sinking and Rome is falling, there's got to be this new civilization like the end of Tron where everything starts to light up and it's been under this like dark cloud.
00:35:24.000So, you know, God is using me and he has a calling You know, in my life to make the world better for all people.
00:35:33.000Like, people say there's bad people, there's good people.
00:35:35.000No, there's people that are possessed that have demonic ways, but we were all children at one time.
00:35:42.000They say some people, no, they were born bad.
00:35:45.000You gotta remember, like, say, oh, there's bad people.
00:36:02.000So you essentially deconstruct things.
00:36:04.000So when you say, in many ways, when you're describing yourself as a visionary, this is what I'm saying.
00:36:10.000You're looking at all the systems that are in place, whether it's the record industry, the contracts that are wrong with artists, the way civilization is set up.
00:36:20.000I think visionary is too glossy and too saucy of a title.
00:36:26.000You're deconstructing all of these things and you find flaws in the systems.
00:36:31.000So all these systems, whether it's the music industry system, whether it's the political system, whether it's the system of gathering food, even a religious system.
00:36:41.000I remember when you started doing your Sunday service, and my friend was like, what is he doing?
00:37:05.000The best thing that people ever get out of church is sense of community, A time where you get together and you all agree this is where you're going to concentrate on good.
00:37:14.000You're going to concentrate on goodness.
00:37:15.000You're going to concentrate on trying to find these shared values that are going to help the community.
00:37:21.000Now you're doing this in this mass form.
00:37:23.000You've got this superstar musician who's doing this in this mass form with thousands and thousands of people in these gigantic areas.
00:37:55.000So talk me through how this starts with you.
00:37:59.000Were you always religious your whole life?
00:38:03.000Yes, I was, and then I hit high school.
00:38:08.000When you're a young man and you're a superstar musician and you live in a wild life, what was it that led you back to this?
00:38:20.000Just a feeling in your life that there was more to life, there was more to your position, there was more to this idea of a calling that you felt like, You could do more and that it resonated with you more to produce these Sunday services and to start thinking of life in this way.
00:39:23.000That's illusion, where we need to dispel the illusion.
00:39:25.000I wouldn't even call it the floating stage today, but the whole thing about it is people used to say how I would lose money on tours because I would put so much into the creative.
00:39:32.000And I wanted to prove, but prove to who?
00:39:56.000And then I remember talking to James Terrell, and I was like, at the top of my lungs, like screaming about saving ourselves and humanity, and the reason why me and James needed to Connect.
00:41:49.000They LeBroned me, as I would say, like when LeBron went to Miami.
00:41:56.000And they said, you know, who are you to have a choice?
00:41:59.000You know, like one of my other heroes, Tom Brady, he left.
00:42:04.000I didn't see no jerseys getting burned, like when LeBron left.
00:42:11.000So then, less than a week after that, my wife is robbed in Paris.
00:42:18.000And so we just, because I'm in the middle of a tour while I'm doing the fashion show, while I'm doing this, so we cancel the tour because it's very traumatic.
00:43:11.000My dad was a Black Panther, but when Disney makes Black Panther, now when you look it up, You don't see my dad protecting his neighborhood or snatching a mic out of somebody's hand while they're lying.
00:43:26.000I don't know, you know, like father, like son right there.
00:43:29.000But you see this character that's made for black people to idolize that was designed by a white person and put out by a white company.
00:43:40.000So it's controlling the narrative to say, we're going to show you Harriet Tubman, we're not going to show you Nat Turner.
00:44:22.000Get to a point where we stop having to put the word black in front of it because it's like we're putting the rim a little bit lower for ourselves.
00:44:31.000When I say, I'm the second wealthiest black man in America, Like, why do I have to say that?
00:44:38.000Because, you know, obviously, if we just go on wealth, period of what we call wealth, like financial wealth, that scorecard, you know, I'd be like, I'm the 78th wealthiest man in America, but we shouldn't have to have a special box,
00:44:55.000a special month, because also what they show in Black History Month is us getting hosed down, reminding us that we were slaves.
00:45:04.000Like, what if we had, remember when I cheated on you month?
00:45:07.000Remember when you first found the text messages?
00:45:11.000Remember, how does that make you feel?
00:45:12.000It makes you feel depleted and defeated.
00:45:17.000No matter what religion you are, what we can agree on is it is always now.
00:45:22.000But now is the shortest moment of our life.
00:45:27.000The longest moments of our life are our memories and our imaginations.
00:45:33.000Think about how long a kid imagines Christmas versus how long Christmas really is.
00:45:39.000And when you think back to your Christmas, are you under the table like Jim Carrey in Eternal Sunshine for the Spotless Mind, like under a chair, or are you a giant?
00:45:49.000What Black History Month has told you, you are.
00:45:53.000And this is me speaking to, you know, black people, specifically in America, that, you know, I know people who would, you know, kill someone or have a gun or,
00:46:08.000you know, in their own hood and be afraid to go downtown and literally be, like, afraid of white people.
00:46:16.000Like, the most gangster of gangsters wouldn't go downtown.
00:46:21.000And that's just a programming, but that program is inside of the curriculum.
00:49:21.000But none of the things you're saying are crazy.
00:49:23.000None of the things you said are crazy.
00:49:25.000It's fascinating the way you think because I can see that you're thinking in all these different layers and you're looking at things from all these different perspectives and they all come together out of your mouth in like a tornado of ideas.
00:49:37.000Now, if someone wants to just have a conversation with you back and forth, I could see where they would go, this guy's crazy, he just doesn't stop, he's just ranting.
00:49:44.000But what I'm seeing is just, you're a very thorough thinker.
00:49:48.000You're thinking of things independently, but you're thinking of things in a massive perspective.
00:49:55.000Now, who convinced you that that's bad?
00:50:06.000Yeah, I believe before I found Christ and gave my life to God, I would try to lean on my own understanding.
00:50:16.000And the universe is like a black hole of information.
00:50:23.000What do you mean by your own understanding?
00:50:24.000Meaning, when people ask Einstein, said, you're the smartest person, what would you like to know?
00:50:31.000Einstein's response was, I'd like to understand the mind of God.
00:50:35.000Meaning, God is all-knowing, and we can only know or see, and for me as a visionary, we can only know or see what God allows us to see, and what he feels we're ready to see and understand.
00:50:49.000To maximize what our Maslow's hierarchy of need chart is, you know, what sets our dopamines, what sets our serotonin off, what makes us feel good, basically, like, you know, we did a good deed.
00:51:02.000And it's like, it was somehow where, you know, Just doing a beat for a local dope rapper really meant a lot to me when I was 14 years old.
00:51:16.000Doing a beat for just anyone famous that had a major record deal was a lot to me at age 19. Me being able to You know, put out my own music and put my own hours a lot to me at age 24. Meaning, as I grow, God sets new stages in the game of life for me that you get your satisfaction.
00:51:37.000Like, Maslow's hierarchy of need is like our satisfaction chart.
00:51:41.000What makes us feel whole and accomplished as a human being.
00:51:47.000So as I go through these different levels, there's times where I would use confidence when I knew what I was doing, and I would use arrogance when I didn't know what I was doing, but I'd rather use arrogance than to let someone diminish my idea of myself,
00:52:47.000The leader in what we're doing with farming and with shelters.
00:52:51.000When I was building the homeless shelters a couple years ago and visiting parks and then going to Skid Row and understanding the dynamics and empathizing with what actual mental health issues are.
00:53:08.000Not someone telling their truth Or being exhausted and then being labeled as such.
00:53:18.000So that's what you felt happened to you?
00:53:20.000Like you were telling the truth and you were exhausted and they labeled you as mentally unhealthy?
00:53:29.000You feel like maybe, or you probably feel like, that having this higher calling and recognizing this higher power was the glue that kept your thoughts together.
00:53:42.000It kept your mind straight, and it kept you on a righteous path.
00:53:48.000So instead of being scattered with all these crazy thoughts and being exhausted and being labeled manic, right?
00:53:56.000Like we talked before, and you were saying that they had you on medication, but the medication fucked with your creativity.
00:54:29.000Are you serving the one and only master?
00:54:32.000But what did they tell you when they said that they were going to put you on medication?
00:54:36.000What did they put you on and what did they tell you?
00:54:39.000One of my favorite things that they did is they put me on this medication that made me gain a lot of weight.
00:54:45.000And I said, I'm not going to take this.
00:54:47.000And they said, okay, we got a medication you can take, but you won't gain weight.
00:54:51.000And this shows you they were trying to kill a superhero, slowly trying to kill genius, trying to make me not feel like I could run for president, make me not feel like I can go be born in Atlanta, grow up on the south side of Chicago,
00:55:08.000go into music, go and win all these Grammys, change the sound of music and the look of stage performances, And then still end up in $53 million of debt.
00:55:19.000The music industry has people going to the exact debt of the house that they think they're going to buy after the tour is over.
00:57:21.000But it was taken out of context and it was taken in the least charitable way and they decided to try to say, look at crazy Kanye, look at this shit he's saying.
00:59:40.000I can self-medicate with exercise and meditation and marijuana and a bunch of different things, but I'm not going to take some medication that removes anything that's unique.
00:59:51.000With you, and all these wild ideas that come to your head, like, very few people could string together these thoughts the way you're describing them today.
00:59:58.000If somebody asked me if there's anything wrong with him, he's fucking, he's filled with awesome.
01:00:04.000If you can keep that together, what you just did, the way you just described reimagining civilization, reimagining church, reimagining food supplies, there's nothing bad about that.
01:00:14.000This is all very interesting and very good.
01:00:21.000Or is there good versions of Kanye and versions of Kanye where you don't feel like you have a grip on these thoughts?
01:00:28.000You know, what I love is there was some perspectives that people showed.
01:00:36.000About what a true manic episode really looks like after I was in South Carolina and this one guy was talking about his mom being in an episode and kidnapping his brother and you know like proper extreme cases you know I cried and was Gut-wrenched,
01:03:48.000And we have so much land that this can be created and then spread across the world to orphanages in Africa and in China and just across the globe to create these environments that when there's expecting families,
01:04:06.000moms and fathers, that they feel like there's a place, even if they don't feel well off enough to bring another life into this world, that there's a place to go.
01:04:15.000There's a plan A. Because Plan B and Planned Parenthood were planned by a eugenics that set out and said out loud, I'm doing this to kill the black race and to create population control.
01:05:25.000We, so more black children have died in In the past, since February, then people have died of COVID. And everyone wears a mask.
01:05:39.000So it's a matter of, where are we turning a blind's eye to?
01:05:44.000Like, the media can control, a lot of times it has control, what we care about.
01:05:48.000I even heard somebody say at one point, this is the actual sentence I heard someone say, Puerto Rico so played out.
01:05:55.000Meaning there was a time where people were caring about it, and now the media says don't care about it, but these people, it still hasn't been solved.
01:06:03.000The hurricanes still have hit, the earthquakes still have hit, and people are still suffering from that, and no one has really gone to fix it.
01:06:10.000And when that 11 billion goes to Haiti and it doesn't get to the people, The Daily Mail posts a swimsuit pic or something and deters our energy to what we have to do collectively to help our brothers and sisters.
01:06:35.000As one body, I want to just go into this riff because my thoughts are like these clouds and Mario Brothers and I'll jump to this and I'll see another one and I'll jump to another one and say, oh yes, I'll jump to another one.
01:09:59.000Imagine if the guy that started Airbnb was shut down or the guys who started Uber were shut down.
01:10:08.000All of these people who break away and then create the new society and the next frontier of where we're going.
01:10:15.000People, like I've said, it feels to me like MIT is a place...
01:10:19.000That has to be funded by people who want to take the smartest people on the planet and make them work on the smallest things that won't change anything.
01:10:30.000And I've talked to people from MIT and I could look at this brilliant person, I was talking from MIT, And he was afraid.
01:11:43.000But the thing is, when you remove, like even in the schools, you remove prayer, you remove God, you remove the fear of God, you create the possibility of the fear of everything else.
01:16:18.000When you see the homes, the style of homes that I've been developing, they're far closer to the way the galaxy looks, the way water looks, the way our makeup and our body looks.
01:16:32.000We've been put into these boxes, and that was due to money, due to construction, that we have to be in these boxes.
01:16:40.000And we've been stuck in a loop, like on Westworld.
01:16:44.000And I feel like Tandy Newton on Westworld, where she had to use the people that enslaved her, that trapped her, to make it...
01:17:15.000Earlier when I had that point, I went to this whole riff about children needing to learn physics and children needing to learn how to really do things and not having this separated thing.
01:17:23.000Like, we are programmed to lock ourselves in a box.
01:17:29.000And what's amazing right now is the opportunity and the platform that we have that the world is hurting for everyone, for those that are Empower for those that are inside the program.
01:17:43.000Even those that are in power are still a part of the program.
01:17:48.000And, you know, I read this tweet that someone said, I finished watching Netflix, what's next?
01:18:07.000Forrest Gump has stopped running and just turned around.
01:18:10.000It's like all of this thing is a setup.
01:18:13.000The concerts that musicians go to where we're not thinking about the fact that we're not getting the lion's share of our masters because we're making the money on tour and then tour has girls and tour has the arena.
01:19:22.000And rap and the way we put our chains on, the way we dress, we can show them the way we play ball and things like that.
01:19:27.000But it's another frontier to being a king.
01:19:32.000Well, there's also something where you feel diminished in the fact that you know that your money is being stolen by people that don't deserve it.
01:19:41.000So if you have some record executives, if you have some people that you know have looped you into a fucked up deal and they're making millions while you're making thousands, that fucks with your head.
01:20:21.000To have these really all-encompassing thoughts where you have these long trains of ideas and thoughts in your head and you're implementing them.
01:20:35.000I don't think it's a negative thing at all.
01:20:38.000I'm dealing with issues that are not just black and racial issues.
01:20:46.000I'm dealing with maverick, innovator issues.
01:20:51.000I'm dealing with just as many You know, issues where there's walls of, you know, invisible walls and invisible chains as, you know, Michael Jackson dealt with as a black musician or urban musician where he had to go and I'm urban and he came with Thriller.
01:21:09.000He's like, let me go get this person who directed Witches at Eastwick.
01:21:13.000I'm going to get a movie director and he changed, you know, movies forever.
01:21:17.000I'm dealing with some walls that, you know, people have done to hold back Agents of change throughout history.
01:22:11.000They're in a place where they can barely pull it together now, but they invented the digital camera, and they didn't bring it to market because they had all this film to sell.
01:22:29.000That's a challenge for me is, you know, I designed this thing, we call it the foam runner, and we built a factory for it in Cody, and you can make these in 25 minutes.
01:22:42.000And what I'm saying about design, I was talking to one of the just awesome designers that we just got over at Yeezy.
01:23:33.000I feel like Steve Jobs trying to, like, remove buttons off the side of the next Apple.
01:23:37.000And one of the things that's interesting about this, if you look at most sneakers, if you look at you guys' sneakers right now, you have a tongue, you know, and it goes this direction.
01:23:46.000This is one of the innovations about this is one reason why this is one of the most important sneaker designs is this goes this way because it's ergonomic.
01:23:55.000And I remember putting it on and being uncomfortable with wearing it because I'm so used to, like, the way, like, a Jordan or something fits with my jeans.
01:24:05.000And I remember talking to Kobe and him talking about having to make sneakers that fit with jeans.
01:24:10.000And that was a big thing because, you know, that's what we grow up.
01:24:14.000We grow up wearing, you know, Falcon Eye jeans and Jordans or something like that.
01:24:55.000And, you know, money isn't real, so that means the world should be eventually free.
01:25:00.000So I'm going to manifest the world being free.
01:25:03.000My dad, he lives in a DR, and he says, you know, anything that you put in the ground grows, so why do people still go hungry?
01:25:13.000And I like that in theory, but I was like, man, farming is really hard, though, man.
01:25:17.000I think, you know, I might go hungry if I have someone to farm this food.
01:25:21.000But, you know, Back in the days, we had that skill set.
01:25:25.000Now we're losing these skill sets that actually we can sustain off of.
01:25:30.000So with this, and I love giving you guys my riffs.
01:25:34.000I'm like a human version of Instagram.
01:25:36.000When you look at Instagram, you look at, you know, you're looking like a hundred images a day.
01:25:43.000Well, I've got millions of images in my mind and the majority of them haven't You know, there's some images that are from my memory, but I got this whole, the future that's in my mind that has to be brought.
01:25:59.000So this is, you know, we talk about hype culture and shoes being sold on the, you know, the resale market, and Yeezy lives in that place.
01:26:11.000I don't love the idea that some of the reason why people buy it is just for hype culture or you ain't got this or I got this colorway and you don't have it, that type of mentality.
01:27:00.000This next frontier of these communities and villages of happiness are way closer to a Kenyan village than it is to a gated community village.
01:27:13.000But one of the things about this aversion to hype culture, one of the good things about the hype culture is if people get into your products, they're going to get into you and they're going to get into your ideas.
01:27:30.000And they go, hey, he's got some great points.
01:27:32.000If people really get into your shit, they're also really going to get into your ideas.
01:27:36.000I think it's one of the things that make people uncomfortable about you, is you have the courage to have all these bold ideas and to implement them.
01:28:45.000I don't know if it would have worked, but things would have been different.
01:28:48.000People are over-designing into industries where they see they can make some money as opposed to stepping back and saying, how do we look at the entire Earth As an opportunity to free everyone and create happiness for everyone.
01:29:09.000There's only a billion people on the internet.
01:30:14.000Like, why is, that's just, I don't like that message because we're all the imitation of our parents and imitation of this, imitation and then imitation of Adam and Eve.
01:30:23.000You know, we're all the next versions.
01:30:28.000It should be the V2, V3, V4, like, you know, Michelangelo and Da Vinci had the same teacher, right?
01:30:34.000There's times where people who work with me or my mentees or whatever will go out and they'll do something that I wanted to do.
01:30:46.000And then I'm torn because as a man, I'm jealous and I'm proud at the same time.
01:30:53.000And it's like a father-son relationship.
01:30:55.000Because sometimes when the son goes out, And is more successful at things.
01:31:01.000The father wants to say, that's a good job, but every time the son does something that's a good job, it reminds the father of his failures.
01:31:08.000So it's just, I mean, it's a strong dynamic that that's where I have to lean on God.
01:31:17.000To not be like this prick that's jealous of people who are innovating or taking the goal line.
01:31:31.000Because we've got to realize we're in a relay race of humanity.
01:31:34.000At a certain point, whoever, you know, what the inventors in the past did is now handed over to the inventors today.
01:31:43.000They're handed over to the next inventors.
01:31:44.000The good thing about the walls and the perception and all that is this, like, Smaller barrier to entry allows there to be a Walt Disney and a Steve Jobs and a Henry Ford.
01:32:00.000So what I'm doing right now, there's a real barrier to entry to constructing homes and communities and farms.
01:32:08.000You can't just do it like how you can just...
01:32:17.000I'm just saying that it's difficult for someone to go from programming and putting their music out on the internet today to what it was that Michael Jackson had to do.
01:32:27.000That barrier entry was so hard for him.
01:32:30.000I mean, this guy was the leader of the Jackson 5 when he was five.
01:32:33.000Like, his entire life led up, and this is what he focused on.
01:32:57.000How many times have you started on a house and contractors start overcharging for stuff and the budget ends up being twice the amount and it's twice as long?
01:33:06.000Look, if you had a relationship, this is why relationships are a better currency than money.
01:33:14.000If you had a relationship with the contractors, If you were part of their family, your house would be done quick.
01:33:21.000I feel like it's a practical joke on rich people how long houses take to build.
01:33:27.000I was in the airport and there was a first class line that was super slow and there was a coach area with like eight openings and there was no one in it.
01:33:36.000And then I hopped out and this other gentleman hopped out with me and went through that line and we went through.
01:33:42.000But the rich people with the Hermes belts didn't want to lose their position so bad that they would rather wait in the first class line than to have the time back and go through that.
01:33:55.000It's a surgeon that works on people's hearts through their feet.
01:33:59.000So it's like that kind of engineer, surgeon, doctor mentality is like, yeah, I got money because this is what I'm doing, but I'm here to serve and I have a mentality that I'm not better than the person that's in coach, which is the reason why we were the only two that went through coaching.
01:34:16.000How do you segue off of this when I just go into this?
01:34:52.000And I stay at school with them all day.
01:34:56.000And, you know, I'm in the kitchen like...
01:35:03.000Working with the top chefs on the planet to create this you know these healthy menus and I'm working with the farmers so the school that I'm at is also it's like this new I don't want to no disrespect to NASA I was gonna say new NASA but Of humanity,
01:35:26.000that we're anchoring it around our children.
01:35:31.000But then I also, in the past couple months, have been going to Atlanta for two days a week or three days a week because I'm building this 120,000...
01:35:44.000Oh, I'm not supposed to say that I'm building.
01:36:31.000Like, it's in 2020. Like, we're supposed to be in the future by 2000. So it's my job to pull the future into now.
01:36:37.000And that's something I struggle with when I talk about the different things that I'm doing, getting into the idea of doing, like, Content for Netflix or content for Hulu and, like, with that content.
01:37:09.000We have this opportunity to make life as fun as these second lives.
01:37:13.000But if you look at how politics, just general unhappiness, misery, control, the speed that contractors go, the farmers that wouldn't finish the farm, the way we are with each other, it's why people feel like, look, everyone's going to go into this Ready Player One second life.
01:37:32.000And I believe that our first life can be just as imaginative.
01:40:59.000Sometimes I don't know the difference.
01:41:02.000I'm a terrible speller, and I believe that there's curriculums that are European curriculums that don't even apply to our genes of who we are as a people, like African descent people.
01:43:29.000And both of these interviews have been very positive because people aren't carrying something already like some form of chip on their shoulder where they got to like, every sentence, sometimes I talk to reporters, it's like they're saying the thing they wanted to say To this guy in high school that they never got to complete the conversation and they're taking it out on me.
01:44:13.000Let's put those together, we'll make some money.
01:44:15.000Instead of the original Star Wars, which was the hero's journey, which was like a Joseph Campbell book, there's a beauty and a purity to it.
01:44:33.000And it was a crew of leaders, of thought leaders that like, it's a Brian De Palma that told George to put the words at the beginning.
01:44:45.000Because it's like, you really, all I've been feeling like is like, when I talk up to this point, I've just been making THX. You know?
01:44:54.000And then the toys from Star Wars have now come out first, which would be like, you know, like the Yeezys or something like that.
01:45:01.000And now I start making the whole Star Wars in real life, like backwards, like the product came first, kind of like Disney.
01:45:07.000Like Disney, he was, Mickey Mouse became super popular before he was able to get all of his Imagineers Imagineers in.
01:45:15.000I want to point out, you know, when people talk about being, you know, self-absorbed or the center of your own universe, what's the main character in Star Wars name?
01:46:08.000Like, your music resonates with people because it's obviously coming from your mind.
01:46:12.000Whereas some people are creating songs that they think are going to be hits.
01:46:17.000They're creating top 40. It's coming from my heart and my gut, but when it's The most pure is coming from God and I'm being used as a channel.
01:46:27.000It's like when Tanya Harden hit the triple flip, you know, she had all that skill and then at some point, it's not called a triple, I'm about to say triple Lindy like it's Rodney Dangerfield or something, but it's like these moments where we do things that are Seem like superhero level.
01:46:48.000And I think that's what M. Night Shalaman was laying out for us with Unbreakable, Glass.
01:46:57.000And what was the other one with the guy with the multiple personalities?
01:47:00.000It's like he's got three of these films that are like showing us, hey...
01:47:17.000Like, why did I... Why did I register so late to run for president?
01:47:28.000COVID. I remember I had the virus and I was sitting quarantined in my house and my cousin texted me about being prepared to run for president.
01:47:44.000And I just completely put it off to the side because I was shivering and having a shake and taking a hot shower and eating soup and just sleeping.
01:48:30.000You know, like, who are you to run for office?
01:48:32.000And why would you sign up for office, you know, if you can't even get on ballots?
01:48:40.000People are saying that to me, and I could get on the ballots.
01:48:44.000It's like there's black mothers that go into a hospital, and the doctor will tell them that there's something wrong with their child or get them.
01:49:19.000You know, and I'm not trying to take any sides of, like, Republicans or Democrats.
01:49:22.000I'm just saying, why were people so much thinking that I was, like, a form of a pawn?
01:49:30.000And then the idea that, you know, liberals would say, like—the funny thing is liberals, I think—and I'm— I don't know if I could classify myself as liberal, but I'm definitely kind of a liberal elite.
01:49:45.000I wrote my beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.
01:49:47.000I've had some of the best writings, so that would put me in that class, so to say.
01:50:02.000So, one of the most racist things that liberals who pride themselves on not being racist have said to me is, like, you're gonna split the black vote.
01:50:13.000And that makes it seem like black people can't make decisions for ourselves and that don't know white people know me.
01:50:23.000The liberals, they literally make it seem like only black people will vote for me.
01:50:28.000Think about that statement, the nuance of institutionalized racism.
01:50:34.000And this would be like somebody from the art world, you know what I mean?
01:50:38.000They just have a place where no one has really been able to embrace the idea of blacks not being in a block and staying in one place.
01:50:51.000Or blacks have an opinion, like us not being on boards or us being like...
01:50:58.000Handlers for other black people, meaning like if we work at a label or we work at a big corporation, it's our job to go talk to the other black people, you know, to calm other black people down.
01:51:10.000But we're working for, you know, Universal or Vivendi or...
01:52:28.000And we haven't even released a product yet.
01:52:30.000But what I loved, I sat there and I did the deal without getting on the board.
01:52:36.000And I looked at my cousin, and I didn't want to sign the deal without being on the board.
01:52:41.000And I looked at him and said, I'm doing this for you.
01:52:42.000Meaning, like, this is part of a relay race.
01:52:45.000It would just be a given that if someone of color My position of influence will be on the board, but Michael Jordan had to break down walls, and Michael Jackson had to break down walls for us to break down the next walls.
01:53:02.000And the next walls are the boardroom, because you know what the boardroom is?
01:53:07.000See, people are fine for us to play basketball and, you know, rap and make clothes, but The society as it's set up is not really used to or fine with us actually having an opinion.
01:53:23.000And I can understand why because what is our opinion based on if we grew up thinking we were slaves?
01:53:30.000If our opinion isn't based on, hey, my dad taught me how to run this company.
01:53:34.000You know, my dad is smarter than me, and everything he wanted to do, black people thought he was crazy, and he had to do it with white people who thought he was incompetent because he was black.
01:53:47.000These companies and the way the music industry, the way managers, and the way society generally looks at black people is the way a misogynistic man looks at a hot lady.
01:54:44.000How could you not have the guy that has the best ideas?
01:54:48.000So one of the great things with Universal, one of the approaches that we have is, you know, Universal, when Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre sold Beats by Dre, Universal had a chance to buy in or do different things.
01:56:03.000But it's not about the money as I said earlier.
01:56:06.000It's about the fact that even though my net worth is five billion dollars and I'm one of the most famous, most influential, God-fearing Christians on the planet, I still have to go to this man or this organization and ask him for something.
01:56:27.000When you go and do your companies, don't think because you got the most ownership that you actually have the control.
01:56:32.000If you don't have the information and the knowledge of how the distribution works and you're not having that conversation, you don't have the control.
01:56:40.000So what I did in my organization with Universal, with Gap, and with Adidas, I told my lawyers, my managers, everything, no one can communicate with these organizations except for me.
01:56:51.000You can give me advice, but they got to talk.
01:57:37.000Just even right now, I cancel all my credit cards except for one credit card.
01:57:42.000This is like the Oprah Winfrey moment where she's like, man, when I started spending cash, I was like, I really realized, you know, how much I was spending.
01:57:51.000And the thing that happens in the music industry is just a lot of industries that people tell you that someone needs to do something for you.
01:58:02.000And it's just when you ask me how do I delegate my time, it's important for me to delegate my time.
01:58:08.000If I made $210 million last year, and yeah, I have a lot of Maverick ideas.
01:58:14.000I'm working on cities and homeless shelters and farms, and I'm reinvesting myself.
01:58:17.000So a lot of Mavericks will, you know, Spend their money on their ideas, and they'll invest in what they see the future is.
01:58:24.000And I ended up with a net worth of $10 million.
01:58:27.000I remember a month ago, people were like, you can't show your taxes because people won't understand that you're a billionaire if they see that you only netted $10 million last year.
01:58:39.000And after the Gap deal happened, my net worth went from...
01:58:44.0003.3 billion to 5 billion and I've been asking the people around me to run the story and they were going to run it with Bloomberg.
01:58:54.000I was not afraid of people looking at me like I was not a billionaire and I said be honest, show my taxes, show everything and then the reports came back.
01:59:41.000Funny thing, look, I stole khakis from my friend when I started doing music at age 19, 18. I went and bought a chain I came home one day, didn't see where the chain was.
01:59:54.000Come to find out, my friend was smoking crack and it stole my chain.
01:59:58.000So the guy I was stealing for ended up stealing from me.
02:00:11.000You know, I give my life to God and I start doing Sunday service.
02:00:16.000One of the things that I had to do for Sunday service, or I got to do, that was fun for me to do, was to design the wardrobe for Sunday service.
02:00:58.000And I'm going to have you stand in the gap for real.
02:01:01.000And I'm going to give you favor and increase.
02:01:03.000And I know some person, I know somebody where all that design and t-shirts will come in handy.
02:01:08.000I literally was designing t-shirts for Sunday service like David working out in the field, tending to the field.
02:01:14.000You know, when Goliath came, they wanted one of his brothers and the warriors to go up against Goliath and his father chose David.
02:01:24.000And David said, I don't need all this armor.
02:01:26.000I just need these three smooth stones.
02:01:28.000I just need, you know, this is how I got to see.
02:01:30.000They didn't know David had to fight a lion and had to fight a bear.
02:01:34.000So God, by him tending to the field and humility and in service to God and honor to his family, he was able to have the skill set to take down Goliath.
02:02:24.000And I won't let that be the kryptonite.
02:02:27.000I won't let my own ego be my kryptonite.
02:02:30.000I won't let other people's opinions be my kryptonite.
02:02:33.000I won't let these labels that people put on me be my kryptonite.
02:02:37.000And a lot of times I don't like to watch these interviews back until about, you know, three, four, five years later because I'm always, you know, I'm visiting the now.
02:02:46.000I'm existing in the future and visiting the now when I'm speaking to you.
02:02:50.000And they make a lot more sense in the future because I can tell you, but He can show you.
02:04:03.000The beautiful thing is you're not listening to these people, these people that are trying to put these labels on you and tell you what to do.
02:06:53.000I had an argument with one of my managers because I made my own travel ban in my organization because, you know, when I did Sunday service a month and a half ago, there was 25 flights coming in of people I didn't know because there's criminals in my organization trying to kill Bob Marley.
02:07:09.000Not to JFK or MLK me, but deplete my resources.
02:07:45.000So that's why you became your CFO. That's why I became, and it's the best, and it clears my thoughts, and it really helps me with design.
02:07:53.000It helps me as I'm designing what I'm doing at the GAP. It helps me how I'm designing the curriculum.
02:08:03.000It helps me in the way I'm designing the kitchen, the way I'm delegating, the way I'm working, the way I'm being a better leader, being a better listener.
02:08:19.000Well, I said it's like Daniel Sun painting the fence.
02:08:23.000The fact that I've had to really look at and understand that kind of money and this God-given anointing, being a producer, being a head of industry, to be a God-fearing and a servant of God and a producer and head of industry at the same time is literally like...
02:08:44.000The perfect combination for a president.
02:08:48.000And to be honest, I'm literally like every now and then America has to get America deserves the world deserves a leader that they can 100% trust that Whatever I'm saying to you,
02:09:04.000with the information that I have in front of me, I 100% believe that.
02:09:11.000Like, when I was with the president of Haiti and he gave us an island, me and Shervin Peshavar, that was an early angel investor at Uber.
02:09:22.000And it's working on the Virgin Hyperloop right now.
02:12:08.000Even though I understand industry, they're based on serving God and serving families.
02:12:13.000And that's something that everyone across the globe, no matter what Country in the world, whatever continent in the world, all of the moms and dads have something in common.
02:12:23.000They want the world to be better for their children.
02:12:25.000We all want the world to be better for the children.
02:12:29.000And we can show ways that we are not at odds.
02:12:32.000Think about the world as a giant piano, but we're playing off key.
02:12:38.000So for a producer to synthesize those ideas and not say, okay, we're going to shut...
02:12:54.000Yeah, my mom was an English professor and they had an exchange program where a Chinese student could come to America and she could go to...
02:13:12.000America's greatest export is influence and culture.
02:13:50.000Wonder of the world, but I saw spaces that we can exist in that would be helpful for our health, our well-being.
02:14:00.000These are healthier places for us to be.
02:14:03.000We need to be like almost like Terrellians.
02:14:05.000Like our life is like a Shakespeareans.
02:14:08.000Like Shakespeare has written 30% of our language that we use.
02:14:12.000Like I say, he must have been a really nice person.
02:14:15.000Da Vinci used to walk away from people when he would talk to people, but that's the reason why it's the Da Vinci Code and at the Da Vinci Life, because he never was able to get it across to the level to affect us for generations to come.
02:14:30.000People love art, but they want to put art in the box.
02:14:33.000We need to surround ourselves with the artists because the artists are the most connected The most truthful, and their dinosaur never got killed.
02:14:45.000Somehow, the people who've figured out how to make a living off of art is...
02:14:50.000What do you mean by the dinosaur never got killed?
02:15:25.000You're young, and we're like children.
02:15:27.000And there's all these things, these sharp edges, these corners, these anxieties, these fears, these things put in our food, our diet, our diet of what we consume right here, that turn us old and make us brittle and make us put that fear on our kids.
02:15:42.000Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby!
02:16:26.000And meaning like, if we were never taught the missing banister theory, that we could all tightrope walk.
02:16:34.000The missing banister theory, I wrote it in my book, thank you and you're welcome, that I wrote with my friend Sakaya that's actually here right now that you were talking to earlier is, look, you could walk down a straight line without worrying about anything, but you take that exact straight line and put it 20 stories high,
02:16:51.000you know I'm going with it, and you remove the balconies, you're going to be so concerned about the idea of falling that it will make you fall.
02:17:01.000And that's where the superpower is in removing the fear.
02:17:32.000I think it's crazy that we take children when they're 17, 18 years old, we send them away to college, we make them literally hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, and then we ask them to go out into the world and try to manage this money and try to get a job that's gonna pay them a fraction of what they owe for their education.
02:21:09.000Specifically these guys, but a lot of the tech guys...
02:21:11.000We're able to use the new highways, the new information highways, and create the next frontier of our existence.
02:21:19.000While the powers of our political system are still anchoring on Electoral College, which was based around slavery, about the idea of slaves being three-fifths of man.
02:21:41.000Three-fifths of man was created by the anti-slaves in the North as a compromise.
02:21:47.000And that basically explains the existence of black people in America to this day.
02:21:53.000The people that were on our side supposedly said we were three-fifths of man.
02:21:59.000The people that were on our side, the people on our side thought of us as three-fifths a man, meaning like, yeah, come work for us.
02:22:08.000But you know, you're three-fifths a man, so you didn't have electoral college.
02:22:12.000And gerrymandering happening to this date, where if you have Latinos, Blacks, other minorities, they're redrawing the lines to affect the vote to this day.
02:22:28.000That does not relate to the information highway that we live in today that allowed All these, you know, tech guys to become multi-billionaires and lead free thought or allow,
02:22:44.000you know, as best as we could, a version of free thought.
02:22:47.000I know I gave you a symphony, but you see how all this really connects?
02:23:00.000Just because, you know, someone's not...
02:23:03.000You know, wearing a KKK uniform or a white wig doesn't mean that they aren't holding on to the very core of the country being, you know, based on and built off of slavery.
02:23:20.000So when everyone's saying vote, you know, that's the reason why my mercy is vote Kanye.
02:26:26.000They'd have to take it to the house because I could possibly win now.
02:26:33.000I'm definitely 100% winning in 2024. And with that thought, I was like, okay, I got the birthday party, but I was thinking maybe there's a possibility I would be...
02:28:03.000We want to keep selling Kodak film, so we want to stop you from bringing out the digital camera.
02:28:11.000We want to keep selling this, raising the price of gas, so we're not going to look to how to safely harness nuclear power or to do electric power.
02:28:32.000So we started with student debt, and we got on this long symphony.
02:28:37.000Have you given thought into the idea of free education?
02:28:41.000And particularly, here's a big one for me as well, free healthcare.
02:28:45.000I think if we think of ourselves as a country, and our country as a community, We're all a bunch of people that are together.
02:28:52.000If we're going to take care of things like the fire department, if we're going to take care of things like the police department, education, we've got to take care of healthcare.
02:29:00.000We've got to make it so that people get sick, they don't go bankrupt.
02:29:04.000We've got to make it so that no one has to worry about being taken care of.
02:29:09.000And I don't mean to eliminate the ability for someone to hire a private specialist for surgery or anything like that.
02:29:16.000I'm not saying that, but I'm saying at the very least we have to cover base medical concerns for the population.
02:29:25.000It's a giant part of what it is to be a person, is to worry about your body being broken, to worry about being sick, to worry about what this is going to cost your family financially and how it could ruin people.
02:29:38.000I mean, this is a huge issue in our country, is medical health.
02:30:03.000Our diet, our locations, our jobs, there's a lot of that that affects us and puts us in those situations.
02:30:13.000Our transportation, you know, like as you go into like autonomous vehicles and tram systems, like just kind of Trains that are like floating malls or floating Starbucks or something like movement,
02:30:29.000like designing our world to be the world of the future will help us with health.
02:31:16.000I talk about the guys at MIT, the greatest scientists in the world.
02:31:21.000There's people that are like the Elons of the medical field, but perhaps they're sitting there on the floors, serving on the front line, fighting COVID. Where,
02:31:37.000you know, they didn't have the opportunity to create PayPal and become a billionaire and go to the next idea.
02:31:44.000Or when they present it and want people to invest in these inventions that they have, they haven't had the voice of the platform to bring this invention.
02:32:24.000They want to treat, they want to keep you sick.
02:32:26.000Because that's how you keep making money, to have a guy.
02:32:29.000Like for me, when I say I put my life on the line, I think about Abraham Lincoln, I think about JFK to go in and sit and say, you know, the whole thing is, no, everyone is going to be more prosperous, I think is the word.
02:32:42.000Not specifically, are you going to 5X your money?
02:32:48.000And to be able to really have real conversations with the lead heads of like Big Farm and real conversations with the heads of holistic and natural healing to put these people in a room together.
02:33:10.000I donated to a Christian school in Cody and I also went by and saw this other amazing school in Cody where they have autistic children and kids with special needs in the same classrooms as regular kids and I just saw this juxtaposition,
02:33:37.000and the head of that school is a Christian, but it's a state school, so there's no prayer in the school.
02:33:46.000And then the other school is fully Christian, but it's not a state school, so they don't have money in the school.
02:33:52.000And I wanted to have dinner with both of the principals, come to find out The principal, and these guys, they talk maybe at a softball game or something.
02:34:06.000The principal's house is one block walking distance.
02:34:11.000The principal of one school's house is one block walking distance from the school of the other principal.
02:36:05.000One of the best parts on The Sixth Sense is when they looked at this video and it was a nanny, they saw that the nanny was putting stuff in the porch for the child that had passed.
02:36:19.000And then they said, the ladies looked at the nanny and said, you're keeping her sick.
02:36:53.000Like if I go to Pornhub and the very next thing and like backslide and do this because I've struggled with this since I was like five years old, right?
02:37:05.000And the very next thing says something about like trafficking Then I literally would have to, like, put my hand over that part and, like, click the thing I'm going to and thinking that, like, I'm not a part of the bigger conglomerate that we're all...
02:37:23.000Oh, I'm not really a part of the main problem because I'm not as bad as that guy and I'm not looking at this part.
02:37:28.000We all play a part of it and we're all sick in some way and the world has been designed to keep us sick.
02:37:49.000Engineering, not going to space, engineering our spaces, the amount of space that we need, the way that we interact with each other, how close we are to our loved ones, our families, how close we are to our jobs.
02:38:11.000We could talk about all of these important current issues.
02:38:17.000There's deeper reasons based on the slave mentality, based on fear, based on protectionism, not specifically white supremacy and racism, protectionism.
02:38:27.000People just want to protect what they have.
02:38:30.000And there's this photograph where the little girl's holding a teddy bear, and Jesus has a giant teddy bear behind her back.
02:39:54.000What you're saying is that it's your overall philosophy, the way you're approaching life, you're approaching life that there is good for everyone.
02:40:07.000If we all work together, if we all work together in the spirit of the way you think, the spirit of God, not approach this like with a famine mentality.
02:40:19.000But approach this like there's enough for everybody.
02:40:21.000There's an abundance if we engineer it correctly, if we think about it correctly, if we all come together with the spirit of everybody helping everybody.
02:40:58.000Okay, yes, I am a genius, but one of my most genius skill sets is recognizing other geniuses and empowering them and giving them the platform.
02:41:09.000So the people that have been praying for me this whole time...
02:41:16.000Look at me right here working for the kingdom.
02:41:18.000Not leaning on my ego, not leaning on anything, but leaning on God in this situation saying, let's rise up together and show people what it's like to be Christ-like.
02:42:47.000And thank you for allowing me to give you the thoughts that are coming into my head as opposed to trying to put me on a grid because I'm off the grid, period.
02:43:35.000We think probably the things that we're learning in school right now won't even apply to people when they're 30 years old that are learning this stuff.
02:46:05.000I have to say again, like COVID, I'm a civilian and people can have all their perspectives that they can have of what they would do in that situation, but I would have the greatest professionals on the planet, the most skilled people that have all the experience that would present the information and I would make the most sound,
02:46:27.000rational decisions and I would Follow God's will in my approach to dealing with these other countries,
02:46:48.000There's something about, you know, our president's personality and the leader of North Korea's personality where there's There's a level of common respect and that's the reason why they were able to talk and the fear had been taken off of us.
02:47:12.000Like, people who are God-fearing, self-made servants of their people These other scary dictators,
02:47:34.000they feel like they're that for their country.
02:47:37.000And if they see a president that they know is just taking a check or part of a bigger conglomerate, like I said, I don't want to denounce any of the candidates,
02:49:56.000It's going to take that love and that time and Moments of listening, moments of understanding, moments like when my wife goes and visits people in prison and she hears their stories, she says, I understand.
02:50:10.000I understand why you're in that situation.
02:50:17.000I would have did the same thing in this situation.
02:50:19.000And for us to go to foreign countries and really understand why that they're in these situations, Or why the killing has gone for so long, or why the hate has gone so long, or why the pain just keeps on,
02:52:30.000Selling music and going and buying leather jackets and stuff, dating a whole bunch of girls, going on tour.
02:52:38.000And then I had a family and I had to adjust a lot of my mentality and behavior to grow and be the man that I needed to be.
02:52:52.000Then God called me and I gave my life to Christ.
02:52:57.000And God is helping me to be the Christian that I need to be.
02:53:01.000And when it's in God's will that I become the leader, I will become the leader that I need to be.
02:53:09.000So right now, as I said, I'm a civilian, but my heart, my mind, and my spirit is in a place where I feel, I know that I'm being called to captain this ship.
02:53:24.000Like, when Roosevelt went in, America was in shambles.
02:53:28.000When I'd say those things about those numbers, when I went to Adidas, when I went to Gap, like, I'm the person that you actually call.
02:54:32.000This is resonating with me that you're being 100% honest and natural.
02:54:38.000And that's what we're missing in politics today.
02:54:44.000I mean, it's one of the things that made people excited about Trump, is at least he was an alternative to the political talk.
02:54:50.000It was an alternative to politician speak, where you know they're being dishonest and disingenuous, but you just accept it.
02:54:56.000You know they're reading things that have been written by speechwriters, but you just accept it because it says the things that you want to hear.
02:55:04.000It checks the boxes that'll say, okay, you got my vote.
02:55:07.000What you're saying, though, is what you really feel and you really think.
02:55:10.000And you're not saying it like a politician.
02:56:43.000It's going to be very interesting to see what happens with this.
02:56:48.000I'm telling you, man, that was one of the most interesting and impressive answers to any question because it was so obvious that you were coming from the heart.
02:56:58.000And that's what we all need right now.