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00:01:40.000Remember, they didn't actually concede, I think, or whatever you want to call it, get sort of the final count until 12 or 13 December.
00:01:49.000So Al Gore and his lawyers, the DNC, they carried that in 2000. They carried that process out.
00:01:57.000And they were entitled to, just like in the current time, if the current president of Trump wants to pursue remedies for what they perceive to be irregularities, then that, by law, you're entitled to do that.
00:02:11.000Now, you don't want to get in the game of making spurious accusations and just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, so it has to be based in something.
00:02:19.000But this is not unprecedented, and so I think people need to keep that in mind.
00:02:24.000I feel like there's part of me that feels like there's some fuckery afoot, for sure.
00:02:30.000But there's also part of me that thinks that...
00:02:33.000And this is going to sound ridiculous.
00:02:36.000But maybe for the psyche of the country...
00:02:41.000It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Biden won.
00:02:47.000Yeah, no, I see where you're going with it.
00:03:06.000If you've spent the past four years Denying the results of the 2016 election or chasing the Russian collusion bullshit or if you were in the media and you've been just throwing that crap around about the Russian collusion and happily doing it for the past four years,
00:03:22.000then you really don't have the moral high ground now to say that the other side can't investigate, can't cry foul, can't say they've got concerns and that we should just all, as Nancy Pelosi says, we just have to unify now.
00:04:12.000The Republic's going to survive just fine if, for instance, the Senate remains in control of the Republicans.
00:04:17.000The House, you know, it's going to be tighter now.
00:04:20.000Look, I mean, the House, you know, Pelosi lost...
00:04:23.000You know, conservatively, you know, right now they're saying five seats, but there's ten other seats leaning towards the Republicans in a heavy way.
00:04:30.000So she could have a, you know, a 15-seat turnaround, 16-seat turnaround.
00:04:34.000It's going to be a very thin majority that she's going to have.
00:04:50.000If that tips over and the deciding vote is cast by Kamala Harris because it's 50-50, then we got a problem.
00:04:57.000And I think the most fascinating thing about all of this, which is getting lost in the wash because naturally we're all distracted with what's going on between Trump and Biden right now, Is those two Senate races in Georgia, right?
00:05:23.000Those are both going to be runoffs, basically, in January sometime.
00:05:27.000Because unless one of them hits the 50% threshold, if, what's his name, Purdue gets the 50% plus one vote, okay, then now it's 51 to the Republicans, and they have control of the Senate still.
00:05:43.000Otherwise, I think we got problems if the Dems end up with the White House, the Senate, and Congress.
00:05:51.000I'm just never comfortable with one-party rule.
00:07:09.000It's a lack of self-awareness on both sides that I always find fascinating.
00:07:13.000My favorite tweet so far since Tuesday, since the election day, was after, I think it came out on Wednesday, some progressive tweeted, I think I'm almost getting it word for word, Republicans are such sore fucking losers.
00:07:30.000And I read it and I thought, well, this has got to be like a parody, right?
00:08:22.000But when you're saying it to the whole world, it's like you're allowing the whole world to listen in on a conversation you're having at Starbucks.
00:08:28.000You've got to be a little bit better at being self-aware and also recognizing that you spent, if you're a hardcore Democrat, you spent the last four years saying Russia got Trump into power.
00:08:40.000And even after the evidence comes out that that's not true, you're in denial of that and have never taken it back.
00:08:47.000And you've got different groups, right?
00:11:57.000You have to—it's like an investigation, right?
00:11:59.000When you do an investigation, you have to base it on—right from the very beginning—you have to base it on facts, on something concrete, right?
00:12:06.000If you don't, you're building an entire investigation, potentially, on very shaky ground.
00:12:10.000The whole thing comes tumbling down, and it's a house of shit.
00:12:13.000You know, it's like an operation, an Intel operation.
00:12:17.000Everybody remembers, maybe not, the WMD, you know, fiasco, you know, from Iraq.
00:12:22.000The idea that, oh my God, we got to get in there because they got WMD. Well, a lot of that, you know, was based on one source reporting, right?
00:12:30.000Which got into the reporting chain and then got reinvented in another report and then got, you know, self-corroborated in another reporting.
00:12:38.000And before you know it, you're confirming...
00:12:40.000All the same information from originally that one source, right?
00:12:44.000So you're not building an invasion of a country on solid information.
00:12:50.000So with Pennsylvania, if people are looking at that and going, oh, there's all sorts of shit going on and it's fraud, well, you got to step back and you got to say, okay, where are the problems?
00:13:01.000Now, there's a handful of issues that I think are legitimate in Pennsylvania, one of them being This idea that the state Supreme Court circumvented what the legislative branch in Pennsylvania said about ballots and when you can count the ballots up until what time,
00:13:19.000And so that's a legitimate issue that probably or could end up in a higher court.
00:13:25.000Did the state Supreme Court in Pennsylvania have that right, according to the Constitution?
00:13:30.000Because the state houses in each state set the laws about this very thing.
00:13:38.000And you've got a problem, though, in Pennsylvania because the state house is run by Republicans.
00:13:42.000Now, this bullshit about how long it's taking to count the votes could have been sorted out if a year ago, or not even that, if six months ago, when we knew this pandemic was a problem, when we knew we were going to get unprecedented levels of mail-in votes...
00:13:57.000If the Republican State House had said, okay, here's when we can start counting those mail-in votes, as soon as we start receiving them, how about that?
00:14:14.000Both sides, once again, The truth is always—we talked about this before—is always somewhere in the center, and that's true here.
00:14:23.000But anyway, Pennsylvania, close to call.
00:14:26.000This idea that they're preventing observers from coming in or standing close enough, because they allowed them in, but then were they able to stand close enough to observe anything of any value?
00:14:44.000They let them in but they wouldn't let them actually observe what they were doing?
00:14:47.000There was delays in some districts, right?
00:14:49.000Because counties run these elections and so some counties do it by the book and others apparently have decided they can do things a little bit differently.
00:14:59.000So, some, they were not able to get in, as far as access goes, as, you know, once the voting started.
00:15:06.000Some, they weren't able to go in for the pre-vote counting, or the pre-voting day counting of these ballots.
00:15:14.000And others, they were able to go in, and they were kept maybe 25 feet back, instead of what apparently was like a six-feet distance that had been, I think, I'm not, don't quote me on this, but maybe a responsibly...
00:15:32.000Some places had them watching on monitors, which again is useless.
00:15:37.000The problem there is that should never happen.
00:15:40.000You should be able to always agree, both sides, that you need campaign observers in there, and they have that right to observe the counting of these things.
00:15:49.000And it all comes down to the same issue, whether it's that or whether it's counting ballots or discarding ballots because the person's died previous to the election.
00:16:02.000It all comes down to the perception of fraud.
00:16:21.000And if you don't have a transparent system set up, right, that is easy to see, you've got to be able to look at it and not be told by politicians, not be told by, you know, election officials or the media that it's a good, credible system.
00:16:37.000The voter has to be able to look at the process and say, yeah, that's fair and transparent.
00:16:47.000If I'm doing surveillance on some target, and I'm out in the middle of some, whether it's a shithole or whether it's an urban center in a developed country, I have to have cover for action.
00:17:01.000I have to have a reason that is plainly obvious by passerbys or by local authorities or police that patrol the area.
00:18:12.000And it worked like a charm because they could sit there for hours, right, waiting theoretically for a boat, but obviously pulling surveillance from an observation post.
00:18:21.000And people walking by were like, yeah, there's some lady with a baby, you know, suitcases to cover for action.
00:18:29.000They whacked an industrialist in Germany one time where the hit team...
00:18:42.000And as is usual, your choke points, that's what they're looking for.
00:18:47.000You get in a vehicle and you drive, you're going to have choke points.
00:18:49.000Usually it's at the place of work or it's at your home.
00:18:53.000But it may be somewhere In between, maybe there's an avenue that's always, you know, blocked up.
00:18:59.000Maybe there's a turn that they have to come to a complete stop.
00:19:02.000You're looking for that choke point where you can lay out the attack, where you control the environment, right?
00:19:09.000There was a place in the Philippines that still exists.
00:19:11.000We used to call it Ambush Alley, right?
00:19:13.000Because you'd start at one end, you'd go to the other, and it was a cut-through.
00:19:17.000There weren't that very many of them, and sometimes it was the only one to get from one part of the city to another.
00:19:23.000And once you got in there, you know, you just hit the gas because you were a host.
00:19:27.000If you got caught up in there and there was an insurgency going on, and so, you know, roadblocks and local hit teams, they call them sparrow units, were always a concern.
00:19:40.000Anyway, long story short, they whacked this industrialist, but the hit team, after they'd done their surveillance and they decided where that point was for the attack...
00:19:49.000They showed up one day in construction gear and construction uniforms and started digging a trench as a construction team, right?
00:20:41.000You can't do shit like adjust the rules just because we say, ah, pandemic, now we've got to change the rules, and these states are going to change them, and these states won't, and this state has this.
00:20:50.000How did you make the connection from that to cover for action?
00:21:54.000Yeah, you can change your vote up until the deadline of the election day.
00:21:59.000There are some places where you can go in, you have to request it, and then you can change your vote.
00:22:07.000Which, if you think about it, is not bad, because if on election day you wake up and you find out that the candidate you voted for has committed murder, then you think, okay, I'd like to change my vote.
00:22:15.000Well, I think a lot of people did want to actually change their vote after the second Biden debate.
00:24:07.000Somebody sent me a video, I went down a QAnon rabbit hole last night, of how Trump has set up all the Dems, and this is a sting operation, and that there's, gotta forget what they were saying, that this is all, all of the ballots have been blockchained,
00:24:27.000It's been going around for two years apparently and popped back up this week.
00:24:30.000But the conversation that these two guys were having about it was like people that are really into comic books talking about their favorite characters.
00:24:40.000It's so weird because it's clearly and this is not to disparage people that think there's something illegitimate about this election.
00:25:25.000You bring your friends in, and then you're a little bit higher up the chain in QAnon, and so you know a little bit more, and you've got more friends within it.
00:26:03.000Well, there are some guys that claim to be Republicans, conservatives, and oh my God, we're horrified at the state of the Republican Party, and so we've set our line in the sand, and And never Trumpers, basically.
00:26:15.000And so we're going to raise a lot of money, and we're going to fight this thing, and we're going to make sure that we fight for all the Democratic candidates, and we're going to get Trump out of there.
00:26:26.000And yeah, of course, we're conservatives and Republicans, and we're going to do this because, hey, look, they didn't get jobs in the administration, right?
00:26:35.000And so I have a feeling that part of this started when they didn't get enough hugs, right?
00:26:39.000They didn't get what they wanted out of this.
00:26:42.000Part of it maybe is they're actually legitimately upset with the administration over certain things, but I can't help but think that they just raised a lot of money.
00:26:53.000I'd love to see how you do with charities.
00:26:55.000You look and see what their spend is, how much of it goes to administration for the project, and how much of it actually goes and is used for things like actual ads.
00:27:04.000I'd love to see how much money ended up in their pockets, because I guarantee you once this is over, if Biden wins, they'll somehow morph into something that now makes money by fighting some of the policies that the Biden White House wants to push out there.
00:27:19.000But there's a lot of groups like that that have come out.
00:27:22.000A lot of people spouting their self-righteousness over the idea that Trump's a terrible person.
00:27:30.000I don't think he's a great person, right?
00:27:33.000I don't think you need to actually like your president.
00:27:36.000You need to like your policies and the operations that we're doing overseas and the things that we do.
00:27:42.000Would I prefer a kinder, gentler, more eloquent—I don't know.
00:27:46.000It's all touchy-feely, but I like the policies.
00:27:49.000Did I dislike Trump enough to vote for the potential policies that are coming down the pike with a Biden White House?
00:27:57.000And a Senate possibly controlled by the Democrats?
00:28:02.000No, but then again, I voted for Kanye, so what do I know?
00:28:07.000That's why figureheads are weird, right?
00:28:10.000Because a figurehead could be polarizing, they could be someone that people love no matter what they do, and they could be someone that people hate no matter what they do.
00:28:20.000And that's where it gets strange, where policies and the direction of a government It's attached to an individual personality.
00:28:28.000Yeah, and we've definitely seen this more.
00:28:30.000Like you said, it's got that, you know, as a lot of people on the left will say, it's got that cultish feel.
00:28:53.000It's not a Jim Jones thing as much as they're devoted to the idea of waving the flag, of standing up for America, which is all good shit, right?
00:29:01.000But you got to keep it in perspective, right?
00:29:05.000And I just think we've lost perspective in a lot of things.
00:29:11.000You know, you talk to somebody on the left and they'll say, oh my god, it's the death of the republic we've been facing for the past four years.
00:29:16.000It's the toughest time we've ever seen.
00:29:57.000And what really affects your day-to-day life is what you were talking about earlier, the actual policies.
00:30:01.000Whether Trump's an asshole or not, the real problem with having an asshole for a president is it encourages other assholes to be assholes.
00:30:08.000And this is the first time there's ever been a president that actually encouraged assholishness.
00:30:14.000I mean, he came out last night, this press conference, which a lot of people were horrified by, and then a lot of people got on the right and kind of cheered.
00:30:22.000I think his first sentence out of the gate in the midst of all this sort of concern and chaos and the angst from everybody was, look, if you just count the legal votes, I have won easily.
00:31:01.000If you've spent four years attacking the credibility of the system by saying it was the Russians that put him in there, and then talking about all this other shit about, oh, he may never leave, and they were accusing him over the past couple of years.
00:31:14.000I'll bet he's going to try to steal the election.
00:31:17.000And so now when the other side's like, ah, we're kind of concerned about some of the things we're seeing, they're like, oh, for fuck's sake.
00:32:02.000Or, you know, it's, oh my god, there's something hinkies going on in Mississippi, right?
00:32:07.000So that doesn't happen, but I think, look, the polls got it all wrong.
00:32:12.000The only time the pundits were right, I think, is when they were citing that, look, it's going to come down to a handful of important states, and they usually would cite Pennsylvania and Georgia.
00:32:33.000But, again, whether there is or isn't, if you've got legitimate grievance, if you've got potential evidence, and you can look at a place like Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, if you've got a few thousand Ballots that are in question because it appears that either they weren't residents of the state or perhaps they died some time ago.
00:33:32.000And it's not going to happen in Philadelphia if you say, okay, we're going to toss out these 700 ballots or whatever.
00:33:40.000But I think it is important, again, going back to this idea that you've got to maintain faith in the system by showing people that it's credible.
00:33:48.000So if there are irregularities, just like the Dems did in 2000, and just like in other elections, it's not uncommon at all to have a contested election result in this country.
00:34:02.000And so, go after that, explain what you're doing, be transparent what you're doing, and then for fuck's sake, learn from it for the next one around, right?
00:34:29.000It seems like you can get a code that is unique to you, like a QR code or some biometric code that's based on your FaceTime or your fingerprint if you have an Android phone.
00:34:43.000And it will 100% prove that it's you, and you can fucking vote off your phone.
00:34:51.000We should be able to come up with a better system, and you're right.
00:34:55.000The problem with this was, again, it wasn't explained well enough.
00:35:00.000And so you have the perception, whether it's existing, whether it's happening or not, you have this perception of fraud.
00:35:07.000And social media just pumps the shit out of this and causes this problem in a major way.
00:35:13.000You've got these videos now that are floating around Twitter and elsewhere of ballot workers working at polling stations filling out ballots.
00:35:27.000They'll take 10 seconds of somebody taking an empty ballot, stamping it, filling it out, and then putting it in the box and taking another one, stamping it, filling it out.
00:35:37.000And people will go, oh my god, they're falsifying ballots.
00:35:41.000They're just creating ballots out of whole cloth.
00:36:47.000So I guess my point is, whether it's that or this, you can't just assume that the shit that you see—how do we not know this, right?
00:36:56.000By now, the shit that you see on social media, you should probably question it and at least do your own research and find out whether it's true before you then kick it back out or talk about it like it's gospel.
00:37:05.000Here's what I'm ready to talk about like it's gospel, even though I have no evidence whatsoever, because people keep saying it to me over and over again.
00:37:11.000In Wisconsin, 100,000 votes came in for Biden overnight, and they were 100% for Biden.
00:37:48.000The issue is, you know, like, I was talking to someone who understands these things very well, and they were describing it to me, that when the 2000 election came along with Bush and Gore, that Bush had fantastic lawyers,
00:39:39.000But here's what's wrong with that, and this is what Kyle Kalinsky explained to us, that mail-in ballots were overwhelmingly Democrat because Democrats tend to be pussies who are scared to go there in person because they don't want to get coughs.
00:40:35.000I'm sorry, I was joking around about the Federalists.
00:40:38.000Go back to that article, because what this guy is getting wrong is that...
00:40:44.000Yes, Trump had a lead, but they were counting the in-person votes first, and then they counted the mail-in votes.
00:40:50.000The mail-in votes were already overwhelmingly slanted towards Democrats.
00:40:57.000Because some of these states, and again, some of them with Republican statehouses, that was the regulation or the law that they put in place, was that you can't count those votes early, the mail-ins, I mean.
00:41:44.000Instead of, no, they're counting mail-in ballots later.
00:41:49.000There is a weird thing with the Democrats wanting mail-in ballots.
00:41:52.000It's almost like wanting to mail them in is also sort of a political statement in regards to the handling of the pandemic by the Republican president.
00:42:03.000Those are the same people that have their fucking Twitter profile picture with a mask on.
00:42:37.000Yeah, I gotta tell you, look, I think it's a simple thing, put on a mask, but you're right, there are people who wear it proudly, like the early days of adopting and driving a Prius, right?
00:43:19.000Like, if you see those people that get in fights at Walmart because they don't want to wear...
00:43:22.000You're infringing on my It's always the worst fucking human beings.
00:43:27.000The people that represent not wearing a mask are never exemplary, like scholarly, brilliant people who are like, well, the reality is about virus particles and the size of these particles.
00:45:27.000I was worried that we were going to have to shut the show down, but the doctor informed me that Since I never was really close to him, we made him sit in the corner like a dunce.
00:45:36.000And after we found out that he had the cooties, and we tested him again, he failed the second test.
00:45:42.000Did you think about firing him at that point?
00:49:09.000And it used to be, right, that if you saw, this is going to sound wrong, but if you saw someone wearing a mask, it was probably somebody from Japan or Korea or somewhere, right?
00:49:18.000I mean, it was like that, because it's a little more common over there.
00:50:42.000But I've seen people up there running, and it's not like you're running downtown New York City where you're passing people constantly, and like you said, you're breathing heavy.
00:50:50.000It's just- And, you know, or you're on an obvious, on a long, you know, 20 mile bike ride because you got your spandex on.
00:50:56.000You're going for a big pedal and you got your mask on.
00:50:59.000I'm thinking, it's probably, A, it's probably not necessary and B, it's probably not that healthy.
00:51:04.000Well, you know what a training mask is?
00:51:07.000It's like an oxygen depletion mask that guys would wear.
00:52:12.000Slightly less annoying than the anti-mask people.
00:52:14.000One thing this whole process has taught me is that I find the most annoying people I think exist out there are really, really self-righteous, progressive white people.
00:54:19.000She's been robbed, and she's like, I prefer the fucking thieves to the police.
00:54:25.000But it's just this thing where you're supposed to hate the cops because of George Floyd or because of a number of other incidents that have nothing to do with that guy.
00:54:34.000It's like you can't hate any group of people because of someone that is not...
00:55:29.000I didn't know there was an epidemic of that.
00:55:30.000It's not an epidemic, but there's enough so that if you Google it, you'll find many, many, many cases where people lost their license to practice, got sued, went to jail.
00:55:41.000But you don't look at every doctor and go, you piece of shit.
00:56:12.000I mean, if you're a state trooper and you pull somebody over on the highway and you're walking up there, you have no idea what the fuck's about to happen.
00:56:36.000A big part of it is also what you're talking about with people being self-righteous.
00:56:41.000They're self-righteous all day long on Twitter and they're arguing with people about it and they're finding people that agree with them and everybody's competing for likes.
00:56:50.000Social media has ruined discourse but it's also enhanced it.
00:56:57.000I'm just saying that there is a downside that we don't seem to be dealing with very well.
00:57:03.000Look, I mean, right after this happened, right?
00:57:05.000So once it became clear that there was not going to be a blue wave and that Biden wasn't going to ride in on it and that the House wasn't going to flip a bunch of Republican seats and they weren't going to take the Senate, right away...
00:57:17.000If you kind of canvassed what was going on in social media, people were like, well, this just cements it then.
00:57:24.000This is clear that it wasn't just an anomaly in 2016. This just cements that half of America is a bunch of shitheads, right?
00:57:31.000I mean, that was the general tone from some folks out in social media just saying, well, clearly they're either stupid or they're bad people or they're both because they don't agree with me.
00:57:55.000They're dealing with support for the military.
00:57:56.000That's a giant factor with a lot of people.
00:57:59.000Look, for a lot of my friends who are veterans who are either in the military or have been in the military, that is the number one reason why they voted for Trump.
00:58:09.000And, you know, for Tim Kennedy, that's why he re-enlisted.
00:58:12.000He re-enlisted because he knew that the military was getting more support and that the funding for the military was going to increase substantially and they were going to get to take care of things that were stagnant for a long time.
00:58:24.000And he came on the podcast and talked about it, how they basically squashed ISIS in under a year.
00:58:30.000And it was going on forever before that.
00:58:32.000And they were spreading to Boko Haram and all throughout Africa.
00:59:15.000And after the summer of what they were witnessing, they thought, you know what?
00:59:19.000I think probably looking at that and then saying I'm for defunding the police or whatever the term they use sometimes, reimagining policing as a community effort.
00:59:59.000I'm going to get a commission of the leading scientists, and we're going to look at how do we deliver these things on time, and how do I... I think, well, hold on a second, pal.
01:00:07.000Look, I mean, I don't doubt that he's a good person.
01:01:09.000I really didn't have much Trump material.
01:01:11.000I had Trump material on the way to the White House.
01:01:13.000I got a whole bit about him in 2016. Yeah.
01:01:17.000I may be completely wrong about this, but also he was such a parody of himself, in a sense, that it's almost hard to go anywhere with it.
01:01:25.000He's so ridiculous, it's hard to write stuff that's more ridiculous.
01:01:29.000One of the things you do with comedy is you make things more ridiculous than they actually are, but with a grain of truth to it, when you're mocking a person.
01:01:37.000Well, I'm curious as to where Corn Pop's going to end up in all of this.
01:03:21.000If you stifle their humor, or you don't let them understand the complexity of humor, or how it can be layered, and part of that is sort of the, you know, it's like the nine-year-old will sit with his older brothers, and they'll plow through a couple episodes of South Park,
01:03:38.000and you know, I'm thinking, okay, I've caught the nine-year-old watching Borat, the second Borat movie.
01:04:04.000And so, like, I don't have a problem, you know, and if one of them's acting like a douche, then I'll say, hey, look, stop acting like an asshole or don't be a douchebag or whatever.
01:09:55.000One of the greatest people I've ever known, William Webster, was both the director of the FBI and the director of the agency during his career.
01:10:03.000And he was not inside the agency, but he was an outstanding director.
01:10:09.000I think you could argue it was an anomaly.
01:10:12.000But I guess my point being is it would be a dick move to let her go because she's outstanding.
01:10:20.000But do they usually do that where when someone gets in, they clean house and then they put their own people in positions?
01:10:29.000Statistically, I don't know what the percentage is, but sometimes not.
01:10:32.000I mean, Gates is a good example of that, Bob Gates, kind of transcended administration.
01:10:37.000Because I always look at agencies, obviously I'm on the outside deeply, but I look at agencies as being something that's completely separate.
01:11:22.000They've got their own beliefs, etc., obviously.
01:11:24.000But I think it works best when these...
01:11:28.000And we've seen from other countries overseas, you see this shit, right?
01:11:31.000You see when you get a change in government and they just wholesale clean out the intelligence organization or the police organization and they bring in all their people.
01:12:28.000And so the whole kerfuffle over the politicization of the FBI, for instance, with Comey and others, that makes people deeply uncomfortable, right?
01:12:39.000But, you know, these positions, that very top position typically is politically appointed, right?
01:12:45.000Did you see where Ted Cruz was grilling Comey about evidence that had been changed?
01:13:25.000They got too deep into the game in terms of politics and the association.
01:13:30.000And at that point, one side or the other, depending on where you are on the fence, is going to find it that offensive or questionable or maybe lacking in credibility.
01:13:40.000So when you say too deep in politics, meaning they did things that weren't necessarily the correct things to do, but they were very good for them politically?
01:13:47.000Yeah, I think so, or liked the game, or just developed too close a tie.
01:13:52.000I mean, if I were the president, I would not want to be a buddy with the head of the agency, or a buddy with the head of NSA or the Bureau.
01:14:03.000But wasn't that the thing that Trump demanded from Comey?
01:14:06.000He was like, you know, I need you to be loyal, and Comey was like, excuse me?
01:14:25.000But, yeah, coming back around, I think the smartest thing they could do, assuming that Vice President Biden becomes President-elect Biden if the numbers continue to go the way they are— With the agency, he should definitely keep Gina Haspel on that job.
01:14:42.000That would be a smart move on his part.
01:14:58.000Yeah, I just found it was being talked about, like, the 26th of October is when it's first hit.
01:15:03.000I mean, people generally at that level, don't quote me, but generally they submit their resignations, you know.
01:15:09.000So if Trump were to have won or were to win, then they would still submit their resignations and he would have the opportunity to either offer them that position again or find someone new.
01:15:37.000Because her assumption is she will not have a job after January, you know, middle of January.
01:15:42.000So it's a standard procedure out there.
01:15:45.000But when you find a real quality person who can provide you with extremely good advice and insight, you should probably hold on to that person, you know.
01:18:50.000Well, and I think that's—what people should watch also is—look, these two—I can't emphasize this enough—unless Purdue gets that 50% plus one vote and outright wins that Senate seat in Georgia, you've got these two Senate seats,
01:19:09.000This is actually more important now than the focus that the world's got on Biden-Trump, right?
01:19:15.000I think that train's left the station probably, but— Regardless, that Senate control is critically important in terms of, again, a sort of a balance of power arrangement, keeping government in check.
01:19:27.000And so, you know, the Democrats are, you know, they are going to pump a shit ton of cash into those races, two of them, even if there's just one.
01:19:38.000Well, no, if there's one, then forget about it, because, you know, they've lost the majority possibility.
01:19:44.000If both of those go to runoff in January, I think that may...
01:19:52.000And Biden is the president-elect, and it's decided, and they have the concession speech from Trump, and so we go through this period of mid-December through January.
01:20:02.000Then I think you will see some change.
01:20:04.000I don't think they'll wait until after Biden is officially president in terms of the coverage, because they're going to want to impact those elections in Georgia, right?
01:20:10.000You're going to want to show, oh my god, look, we're really doing this, and it's, ah, things are turning around now.
01:20:17.000And the media will be completely complicit in that, obviously.
01:20:21.000Well, most of the media is left-wing, which is weird.
01:20:26.000I think what's going to happen is Trump's going to form his own media organization.
01:28:35.000And I think that's That's what the Chinese regime is busy still to this day trying to hide.
01:28:43.000And look, there's documentation of concern about this particular lab and the level of security around it.
01:28:54.000And, you know, concern over the money that was still being given to that lab to keep it going, despite the fact that the protocols were lacking.
01:29:02.000And weren't they cited for safety violations as recently as 2018?
01:29:53.000And by the way, I've been accused of that because of that.
01:29:55.000And having a fucking biologist on the show explain why, Brett Weinstein, explain why he believed it came from the lab.
01:30:05.000Explain why, because if you examine the virus...
01:30:09.000There's so many things that point to the fact this virus has been manipulated, that this virus is far too contagious, that it spreads far too quickly, it's gone through this whole evolutionary process that seems to have happened way too quickly for it not to have been manipulated.
01:30:23.000He explained this in scientific terms without saying ever that he believes it absolutely came from the lab.
01:31:15.000People look at you like there's something wrong with you.
01:31:17.000I read something where it says sneezing in your mask is the new shit in your pants.
01:31:24.000Yeah, look, I think there's every likelihood that this was picked up or identified in the wet market or through sort of, okay, this is a naturally occurring, and we know that this has happened before.
01:31:56.000And so then, again, you've got a history of problems and protocols with this particular lab.
01:32:01.000Where's the fucking mystery in terms of at least assuming that this is a possibility?
01:32:05.000I think the real wacky conspiracy theory is that they did it on purpose and I don't subscribe to that.
01:32:11.000I think that seems highly illogical that they would subject their own people to that and then they would shut down essentially most of the world.
01:32:22.000I don't see a logical reason why anybody would release that on purpose.
01:32:28.000It's the same kind of people that wear their fucking masks in their Twitter profile pictures are the ones that hate anybody discussing the possibility that that virus escaped from a lab.
01:32:53.000And again, you had this thing, crisis management planning, right?
01:32:59.000Every company, every corporation will have a set of protocols, and they go through this and say, okay, we've got to look at all the potential threats and risks facing our company, and then we have to create a crisis management plan in case of this happens, that happens, whatever.
01:33:13.000Like you said, have a backup plan or have a scenario that you can go to, and then you exercise that, right?
01:33:20.000Hard to imagine that if you have a pandemic playbook that says, okay, these are the various scenarios, we've identified now that this virus has come from over here, that we're going to temporarily halt travel from that location where we've identified this is the origination of that virus.
01:34:05.000Oh, the conspiracy theories that they knew about it in 2019. But it's not fair when they take advantage of something that clearly no one was prepared for and blame it all on him.
01:34:16.000Now, if you want to criticize him for saying, it's like the flu, it's going to go away, it's going to be magic, it's going to disappear...
01:34:59.000It's not a random question that maybe insight from him would be into, like, I've seen a lot of stuff online about a Melania body double that, like, one version of her doesn't even like to hold his hand, but this other version will hug and kiss him.
01:36:55.000My wife has worked with Melania in the past on some overseas concerns and trips, and she's got nothing but excellent things to say about Melania in terms of...
01:37:06.000She says she's a very private person, right?
01:37:08.000She doesn't really like sort of the press concerns of the job of First Lady.
01:37:15.000Her staff, my wife says, absolutely adores her, loves her, because she is a...
01:37:20.000You know, a kind individual, a decent person.
01:37:23.000So I've heard nothing but good things about her.
01:37:25.000I will admit, I've never heard this body double story before.
01:38:51.000Because you think about it, sometimes a guy like me may not blend everywhere in the world, and so the ability to operate on the streets or out in the open, yeah, so we've got a shit-hot disguise unit.
01:39:03.000Well, don't you remember Team America World Police?
01:43:49.000Did you see there's some study today that came out, I put it on my Instagram page, that psilocybin is four times more effective for antidepressants than medication.
01:44:22.000People have already lost their businesses, and they gave one $1,200 checkout months ago.
01:44:26.000Like, how did they handle that so poorly?
01:44:29.000Well, and then you look at this, and you think, okay, Pelosi, during her speech today, or she came out and gave a little presser.
01:44:35.000I don't know if she took any questions, but it was like, Part of it was also this implication that now we're going to get to work on the next stimulus bill.
01:44:41.000And I'm thinking, what the fuck have you been doing?
01:44:43.000Obviously, clearly we're waiting for this election to go so that nobody gets credit except for you.
01:45:08.000Again, you know me, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I have no doubt that they weaponized this whole pandemic issue for political purposes, and they played it very, very well.
01:45:17.000Look, this is going to sound wrong, but it's a horrific thing.
01:45:56.000And there was just the one thing that could take him down and...
01:46:01.000It just shows you how dirty politics are.
01:46:03.000They're willing to let untold thousands and maybe even millions of people lose their livelihoods just so that they could maintain political power.
01:46:22.000Yeah, just like the Dems right now, if it was flipped, they would be crying foul, as we've seen in the past, and they would be saying, we're going to investigate, and we're not giving a concession speech, we're going to take this to court.
01:47:36.000And we could work together to make it better.
01:47:39.000You don't have to demonize everyone that loves America.
01:47:42.000Or you just have to accept the fact that not everybody thinks the same, right?
01:47:47.000And going back to what I mentioned earlier, where it was like after the election, after it was clear it was going to be very, very close...
01:47:55.000And some folks on the left came out and started talking about, well, you just can't save these 48 or 49%, meaning people that don't think like they or didn't vote for Biden.
01:48:05.000You can't save them because they're hopeless, they're useless, they're stupid or bad.
01:48:11.000That's a hell of a way to think, right?
01:48:13.000And then I saw that guy that turned out to be anonymous, right?
01:48:23.000But he came out and he wrote this bullshit article or op-ed that basically said, well, you know, I thought it's not Washington that's broken, it's the American people.
01:48:33.000Again, referencing anybody who didn't vote for Biden, right?
01:50:56.000I mean, it's a disparaging book about the Trump administration.
01:51:00.000I don't even want to give it any time because I don't think it's deserving.
01:51:04.000But not that there's things you couldn't talk about, but I have this thing about people who walk out of an administration, regardless of which one, Or walk out of an agency or wherever and write a fucking book.
01:52:19.000And they're not disclosing sources and methods.
01:52:21.000But the point being is they've got the PRB, and so you have to submit your transcript, and they go through it, and sometimes they'll edit things out, and sometimes they won't.
01:52:29.000But the idea that you come out and you had an unsatisfactory experience and you want to complain about shit...
01:52:58.000The George Soros thing just keeps coming up over and over and over again, where people that I know that are very intelligent and some that are very connected...
01:53:34.000The trust in law enforcement and that there's some sort of organized campaign by him to do something to destroy the fabric of our democracy.
01:53:46.000Yeah, sort of the one world government run by George Soros.
01:53:59.000He puts a lot of money into a handful of organizations, and that money gets funneled out for various purposes, campaigns, supporting organizations.
01:54:11.000There's no doubt I think that his worldview is somewhat different than mine.
01:54:21.000But I don't think that Soros is, you know, running some campaign to take down America.
01:54:27.000Why do you think people are so attracted to that idea?
01:56:07.000The Open Society Foundation support individuals and organizations across the globe fighting for freedom of expression, accountable government, and societies that promote justice and equality.
01:56:35.000You know, the theory being, oh, no, we're trying to promote...
01:56:39.000If you wrap yourself in the cloak of promoting equality and justice, most people aren't going to push back because they don't want to look like a dick, right?
01:57:24.000So do you think it's just that it's an easy target for someone who's looking for, like, one person who's the puppet master, who's pulling all the strings?
02:01:27.000But my point, my overall point, should I have one, is that with Soros, I mean, people like, you know, that's why conspiracy theories and other things exist, right, and continue to exist, is because it's a fascinating concept, it's a fascinating story.
02:01:42.000You can look at Soros and go, yes, you're running from a secret lair somewhere under a volcano, an effort to take down America, right?
02:01:51.000Okay, that's, you know, that's one theory.
02:05:04.000The other thing that drives me crazy is people say, well, to lean the other way, they say, well, the scope on the rifle wasn't even lined up right.
02:05:13.000Well, how the fuck do you know it wasn't lined up right?
02:05:15.000All you have to do is drop a rifle and the scope is off.
02:06:01.000Again, not to disappear down that rabbit hole.
02:06:06.000I do find it always interesting because I'm still fascinated by the Martin Luther King thing because it's It's a rare day when I look at something and go, yeah, that really is horseshit there.
02:06:15.000Well, you were talking about how James Earl Ray, the guy who shot Martin Luther King, was funded.
02:06:23.000Like, clearly he was a loser, had nothing going on in his life.
02:06:33.000And, you know, then suddenly he manages to reinvent himself, goes on the road, disappears, lays low, comes out, you know, looks like a professor when he ends up in Europe after the shooting, you know,
02:06:50.000buys a Mustang, you know, for cash, you know, more cash than the kid probably or the guy I probably ever saw.
02:06:58.000It's just, there's too many things here that just make it look like that.
02:07:03.000So I'm not a, again, I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I look at that one and I go, you know, over all these years, and we weren't able to kind of get to the bottom of it, you know, speaks to sort of the, I don't know,
02:07:34.000That's the problem with the term conspiracy theorist.
02:07:37.000People don't ever want to be called a conspiracy theorist because it makes you look like a fool.
02:07:41.000Fortunately for me, everyone knows I'm a fool.
02:07:44.000So I can say that I enjoy conspiracies.
02:07:49.000But I also can say, if I'm being honest...
02:07:52.000I know that for sure people have conspired to do things.
02:07:56.000In particular, when you're talking about in the 1960s, there's evidence, there's a tremendous amount of evidence that people conspired to do a lot of different things.
02:08:06.000I mean, there's so much evidence that, you know, there's like, first of all, the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
02:09:08.000The term makes you seem like a fucking idiot.
02:09:10.000Yeah, like you're putting on a tinfoil hat.
02:09:12.000So serious people, which fortunately for me, I'm not one of those, serious people that want to be taken seriously, they tend to shy away from conspiracies.
02:11:03.000But if he's the one who said it, then yeah, it doesn't come from the government.
02:11:07.000You know, the ATIP, which is that Advanced Aeronautical Threat Identification Program, I mean, I think the most interesting thing that the government has come out and said is that, yes, we did have a...
02:11:18.000We did have an operation within the Pentagon, an office within the Pentagon that was there to identify unidentified threats, right?
02:11:29.000So we get something up in the air and we can't identify it.
02:12:51.000It's all on the budgets, which is, again, kind of why we do this show for Science Channel called Black Files, because we're chasing the budgets.
02:13:02.000I got like two other promos to do I haven't even touched yet.
02:13:05.000So fucking hell, people are thinking, wow, he's really slow this time.
02:13:09.000But yeah, if you follow the money, it's like an investigation, right?
02:13:13.000Not so much follow the money, but if you start pulling on those threads around budgets or It's like with investigation and asset tracing.
02:13:19.000Getting bank records is absolutely key if you can legally get them during the course of an investigation.
02:13:27.000But with military operations, oftentimes those budgets for the most interesting projects and operational elements We're good to go.
02:13:55.000We're looking at some pretty interesting things, and it speaks to where programs are going currently, right?
02:14:04.000You look at some things in the recent past, and you say, okay, this is where this new development is heading.
02:14:08.000And isn't it—it's an interesting conversation, too, because for people that don't like secrecy, and they don't think we should have secrecy— For national security and for the development of things like the stealth bomber or like a lot of other things that show that we have military superiority over our enemies,
02:15:28.000Now I'm deep into the show and I'm just now bashing China for their theft of economic intelligence.
02:15:32.000But you look at the effort that they make in terms of stealing our intellectual property and research and development, right?
02:15:38.000I mean, the idea that you don't protect your most critical information, whether it's operationally important or whether it's just, again, R&D for development of materials, and that speaks to the strength of your economy.
02:15:56.000So yes, certain things have to be kept secret.
02:16:00.000But again, you can overclassify things, which tends to happen, right?
02:16:04.000You tend to just—because you're trying to protect everything, right?
02:16:06.000So I'm just going to overclassify, and that also creates a problem then.
02:16:10.000So trying to strike a balance, it's a humor in endeavor, so you never really get it right, I don't think, but— Well, this is where people feel like the line, when it comes to alien spacecrafts and if the government knows and is aware of alien spacecrafts and alien technology,
02:16:28.000this is where the line of secrecy and being sworn to oath, where it crosses over into a need to know for the general public.
02:16:47.000He also was listed in a newspaper article when he put a jet engine in a Honda that he was a physicist at Los Alamos Labs and he was a propulsion expert.
02:17:00.000Says he worked for Area S4 and says he was hired to back engineer UFOs and says they never could figure out how these things worked and that they were never going to because they really couldn't because they were trying to keep everything secret.
02:17:12.000They couldn't share all this information with the general scientific community.
02:17:17.000And he's like, science doesn't work in these containment bubbles.
02:17:20.000You can't compartmentalize science and have only a few small propulsion experts sit around and try to figure this thing out and then they fire and bring new guys in and No one ever gets it.
02:17:32.000I mean, if I'm trying to pull information out of another nation, right, if I'm targeting intelligence from, you know, and they're developing some new ballistic missile system or whatever it is, propulsion system, then yes, I'm going to play off of that desire on the part of engineers and scientists to have a collaborative community,
02:17:53.000And that's And the Chinese do that very well, right?
02:17:56.000Particularly when they target Chinese Americans working here in the US in potentially sensitive positions.
02:18:02.000This idea that we're all working together and this is just what we should be doing.
02:18:10.000My company has done work trying to protect information for companies, pharmaceutical companies is a good example.
02:18:20.000Where the scientists, the engineers, the doctors need that free flow in their mind.
02:18:25.000They've got to have this free flow and this collaborating and this sharing of information.
02:18:29.000And meanwhile, you've got the other side, you know, where the bean counters and security personnel and all that, and they're going like, no, this is the lifeblood of our company.
02:18:36.000We can't risk losing this information, so we've got to lock it down to the degree we can.
02:18:41.000Those two things don't necessarily coexist all that well together, but you've got to try to find some medium.
02:19:04.000Do I think that they're hiding—you know, again, I wouldn't take anything off the table, frankly, because I don't know.
02:19:13.000So it would be stupid of me to say, no, they definitely aren't holding on to some— Propulsion system that, you know, isn't of this world, or whatever.
02:19:26.000If I don't know it, I can't say absolutely not, but...
02:20:25.000And they talk about all kinds of things, about flying and pilots and...
02:20:28.000And the fact that you always have the same two pilots working together, the pilot and the co-pilot, and they, you know, in the military, it's very different than civilian airliners that these guys work together, they understand each other, and they develop sort of the way Lex described it as sort of a mind meld between the two.
02:20:45.000It's a really good interview, and he goes into depth about also the criticisms by these debunkers that don't understand the equipment.
02:20:53.000They don't understand what they're saying.
02:20:56.000When they're trying to debunk it, they're debunking it in a preposterous way.
02:21:00.000They really don't understand what happened.
02:21:02.000That thing that they followed went from 60,000 feet down to one feet above sea level in less than a second.
02:21:10.000And it's not like it wasn't picked up on radar.
02:21:28.000Still unexplained, and when Fravor talked about it, when he first saw it, he was communicating with the other people that were on the other end of the radio, and they were saying, we are in contact with these things all the time.
02:22:49.000But do I think that there's aliens that they come periodically visit and just observe and go, oh, fuck this, and then leave?
02:22:58.000It does raise the question as to why we, if they've actually visited and they've been here, are they just for observation and then they get fed up with the way we act?
02:23:06.000Well, I think if you were observing another advanced civilization, like say if we...
02:23:16.000Because if we're looking at that and we say, okay, say the Tic Tac was from some other world, then them looking at us, they're not going to look at us and go, well, that's an advanced civilization.
02:23:55.000There's a lot of people that spend their whole life studying plants.
02:24:00.000The idea that we, if we found an advanced life form, say if we went to another planet and we found some early Neanderthal types that were just starting to use flint tools, we would study them hard.
02:25:14.000Well, with them, I think there's a lot of inbreeding because there's such a small genetic sample.
02:25:20.000So it's a small genetic group to draw from.
02:25:23.000But I think that if aliens came here from another planet, first of all, they would know for sure that we already split the atom.
02:25:28.000They would know that we have the power of nuclear weapons and that we have enough nuclear weapons aimed at each other to decimate all life on Earth multiple times over.
02:25:39.000I think they would think that's pretty fucking advanced.
02:25:41.000They would know that we can send video through the sky.
02:25:44.000They would know that we can capture time in the form of pictures and film.
02:25:49.000I think they would be aware that we are on the cusp of some pretty wild shit.
02:25:54.000We're sending Teslas into space that are currently zooming around Mars or whatever the fuck they are.
02:26:00.000I took my truck to the car wash the other day in Boise and There was a Tesla that was sitting over on the side and the lady was giving the manager hell because she'd taken her Tesla through the car wash and it knocked off the side view mirror and it was clearly a new car for her.
02:26:17.000And she couldn't even take it to the car wash without it losing a piece or a part.
02:26:21.000And I thought it wasn't a good ad for Tesla, frankly, but you know.
02:28:42.000It's a very cute and it's a tough son of a bitch, right?
02:28:45.000It's going to be a great cat around the house.
02:28:48.000But it's just like now I'm waiting to get like a farm duck and chickens and a goat.
02:28:54.000People have love-hate relationships with foxes.
02:28:57.000Because they're beautiful, they're kind of cool, they like to hang around people, but they will kill your fucking cat, they will kill your chickens, they'll kill a lot of things.
02:31:48.000They're also kept as pets in Australia, which is really weird.
02:31:50.000One of the major invasive species that causing detrimental effects to indigenous wildlife due to predation.
02:31:56.000For biosecurity reasons, any cats that are imported to Australia must meet conditions set by the Department of Agriculture, Fisheries, and Forestry.
02:34:19.000You can't buy alligator skin things in California anymore.
02:34:24.000Crocodile skin, can't buy them anymore.
02:34:26.000Like, what the fuck is wrong with people?
02:34:29.000Well, but it's also—it's the continuing—look, it's interesting if you think about what the fuck is wrong with people, and then you see the rate of movement of citizens out of California and to other locations.
02:35:00.000And you'd like to think, again, going back to the very first thing we talked about, self-awareness, you'd like to think to say, I'm leaving this place.
02:35:28.000And he's like, don't make this state what you fled.
02:35:32.000And he makes some very good points, and a lot of other people do, too.
02:35:36.000Economic freedom, the freedom to be an entrepreneur, the freedom to start businesses and not be over-regulated, all of those are real problems in California.
02:35:55.000If you squash that entrepreneurial spirit, right?
02:35:59.000If you take away incentives, if you take away just the idea that, you know what, maybe...
02:36:05.000You know, I got a great job, but I also got an idea.
02:36:08.000Maybe I want to pursue that idea and see whether I can turn it into a business.
02:36:13.000If you get rid of that either by regulations or just by disincentivizing people from starting a business or from creating something, it could be just a flash of an idea that they've got.
02:36:28.000You know, I'm going to sound like I've got rose-colored glasses on, but that was part of the thing that makes this country so special, right?
02:36:35.000And, you know, I do look at California, and I look at the movement of people out of there, and Idaho, again, being one of those places where a lot of folks end up, and you could see that happening.
02:36:48.000You could see suddenly, you know, a business-friendly state starting to turn, and that's I don't know.
02:36:54.000So yeah, if you don't like where you are and you're moving, maybe look in the mirror and think about, maybe I want something different.
02:37:04.000Well, one of the things that Governor Abbott was telling me is that, fortunately, there are a lot of people that are coming from California that are self-aware and are voting differently than they voted in the past.
02:37:16.000Because they're realizing what they fled.
02:37:18.000And they're actually voting for traditional Texas politics, like the way it's always been here.
02:38:27.000A buddy of mine did a great thing during the pandemic.
02:38:32.000While he's locked down, I think everybody in the lockdown thought, I'm going to get myself in shape, or I'm going to read the Constitution finally, or I'm going to learn a new language or whatever.
02:39:21.000Well, Bird Dog Investigations, it's a platform that works in a couple of different ways, but one way is the world of private investigators out there, right?
02:39:30.000Because that's sort of the guy's business in a way.
02:39:33.000But it helps them in their operations.
02:39:37.000If you're a private investigator out in the field, you're out there and you're taking notes, the typical picture of a guy drinking coffee and trying to snap a couple of pictures of whatever it is, insurance fraud or whatever it may be, and he's compiling all this information.
02:39:50.000Maybe he's writing some of it on a cocktail napkin in his car, and then he's like, he's got all this shit.
02:40:04.000It formats it all into a preset format that the receiver, whether it's a law firm or a company, if the guy's working for a company, it just sets it all in there.
02:40:54.000So certain jurisdictions around the country have more of a problem than others.
02:40:58.000Big urban centers, as you can imagine.
02:40:59.000So anyway, the idea was this guy came up and said, you know what, if the drivers of these vehicles have something where they can, you know, take photos of the situation, punch in all the details, it goes straight into a report that looks good, it goes to the company, great.
02:41:12.000Now you're not, it's there instantaneously, they can assess the situation, they can react quicker, they can identify the frauds.
02:41:18.000So anyway, my whole point was, it's just good to see, you know, Someone doing something good with their time.
02:42:44.000His cousin was one of the owners of one of the comedy clubs in town.
02:42:48.000So his cousin was this guy, Bill Downs, who was one of the owners, along with Paul Barkley, of the Comedy Connection, which was one of the main comedy clubs in Boston.
02:42:57.000And so, like, I get to hang out with this guy, and I'm telling you, out of all the people that I've ever met in my life, he's in the top three funniest people of all time.
02:43:47.000And that's kind of where the world of – private investigators – my company is not – we do larger multi-jurisdictional investigations and things.
02:43:57.000But the world of the PI hasn't really changed that much.
02:44:00.000I mean technology has made it easier and better to some degree.
02:45:32.000So I'd be the one that would talk to ladies and ask them questions.
02:45:36.000He had these little scams he would do.
02:45:38.000One of them would be, he would know someone's license plate and then he would make a couple license plates that were similar to that license plate.
02:45:46.000If your license plate was like XYZ, he would make XYW, XYO, and he would say, my girlfriend was in a car accident and there was a witness to the accident and the cop spilt his coffee On the paper,
02:46:04.000and they didn't get the license number, and I'm hoping that you were one of the witnesses.
02:50:17.000I would say, in the realm of what's possible in this entire world and universe that we don't know anything about, I'd say yes.
02:50:26.000Yeah, I'd say yeah, because there's just so much we don't know.
02:50:30.000And so I think it would be, you know, again, that's sort of the, that's kind of like the operational investigative pragmatic side, which says you can't rule out anything that you don't know 100%.
02:50:42.000But when you hear a story like David Fravor, who's a super credible guy, and you've spoken to him.
02:50:49.000What was your take on it after you walked away?
02:50:52.000I think there's something there that we couldn't explain, and there's a difference there, right?
02:50:59.000So there's a difference that says there's something there that we can't explain, at least with the tools that we've got currently and the technology that we've got currently.
02:51:09.000That's not the same thing as saying the government knows what it is and is hiding it.
02:52:10.000Because, you know, that's a national security issue at that point.
02:52:12.000Well, I think what would be really terrifying to the government is if it wasn't aliens.
02:52:17.000Like, if there was a craft that could go from 60,000 feet above sea level to one feet above, and it was a human-created thing, that means that some, unless it's us, some other civilization somewhere on this planet has some kind of technology that's beyond the realm of our current imagination or understanding of physics.
02:52:37.000Absolutely, which is why, again, that was really the reason for creating ATIP anyway within the Pentagon was because, again, it's a national security issue, right?
02:52:45.000Do the Chinese, have they developed some propulsion system?
02:53:26.000I could see where you could argue, if we have anything that we know about alien life or technology or around any of this issue, that we should just come out, put it on the table.
02:53:37.000My concern would be, from a national security perspective, if I... Obviously, I don't know much about national security, but if I did, I would say, I don't know if people could handle it.
02:53:47.000I don't know if they would be the best thing for these fucking dummies out here that I don't even know if they should be voting.
02:53:53.000Oh, look, they're doing pretty well handling the election week.
02:54:08.000And also, what if there are, and what if they very rarely come here, but now that we have proven that they are here, how badly would other people, nefarious interests in the United States and elsewhere, manipulate that information and fuck with people over it?
02:54:29.000If it is proven that there is alien life, and that we do occasionally get visited by aliens, Do you know how many fucking cult members would be created?
02:54:39.000How many people would manipulate that information?
02:54:42.000How many people would pretend to have secret insight?
02:54:45.000There would be a run on tinfoil, no doubt.
02:54:53.000Yeah, I mean, you could argue the other way and say, well, if it had happened, or if, and again, I'm not saying that's the case, but if the government was aware of visits from other worlds, you know,
02:55:09.000Maybe it helps people put things in perspective.
02:55:30.000He's speaking in front of the United Nations in the early 80s, and he said, imagine if we were visited, if we received a threat from another planet, how quickly we would put aside our differences.
02:56:33.000More water than they expected, at least elements.
02:56:37.000It just seems much more likely than not.
02:56:40.000There's hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone.
02:56:45.000There are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the known universe.
02:56:48.000Not only that, some physicists believe that inside every galaxy there's a supermassive black hole and that inside that black hole may be another universe with also hundreds of billions of galaxies,
02:57:03.000each with hundreds of billions of stars.
02:57:32.000And that's just as far as we can see back to the Big Bang.
02:57:38.000And it's entirely possible that they think...
02:57:41.000It's possible that the Big Bang is part of a series of events and that there's a Big Bang and then an expansion and then ultimately a contraction and a compression leading to another Big Bang.
02:57:57.000And it's this cycle that goes on and on and on and on and it's always existed.
02:58:03.000I think the key there is, A, we don't know what we don't know, and just the sheer size and scope, and the idea that you'd have to be pretty fucking cocksure to think that we're the only intelligent life in this entire setup, spinning around out here on our own.
02:58:21.000But I think, not to take it back full circle, but Yeah, it's that idea that if, you know, don't discount ideas.
02:58:29.000Don't, you know, don't rule things out unless you've got the evidence to do so, right?
02:58:40.000I also think that if there was some alien force, some species that's so far beyond our current understanding of propulsion and technology, they can travel here instantaneously from anywhere in the universe.
02:58:57.000Why would they give a fuck who the government is?
02:59:00.000Why would they give a fuck who our president is?
02:59:02.000Why would they give a shit who our military is?
02:59:11.000I think they'd be so far advanced that they would just be studying us with no regard to letting us know about their presence and They'd be cataloging us with all the other life forms that they've found and saying, okay, this is how these guys behave in a social environment.
02:59:28.000And there's also the possibility that there's many different steps along this pathway, right, where there's insanely advanced and then there's marginally advanced, like something that's only a few thousand years more advanced than us, that visits us,
02:59:46.000And then things that are so far beyond our comprehension and so different from such a different environment and different ecosystem that we can't even understand what they are.
03:01:17.000But even if he has 270, it doesn't mean that they stop the legal procedures in certain locations.
03:01:26.000And so I think that, yes, it's likely to go on, much like it did in 2000, it's likely to go on until December 12th or 13th, but there is an ending to it.
03:01:35.000So all these people who think, oh my God, he's never going to leave and he's going to lock himself in, that's not the way this works.
03:01:52.000Either he continues, or we get a Vice President or President-elect Biden.
03:01:55.000Hopefully, or Civil War, because he hires his own security firm, and they lock everything down, and they won't let that criminal Biden in, and then the QAnon people become his consultants.
03:02:31.000If neither of those races hits 50%, plus one vote, then they both go to runoffs in January.
03:02:38.000And that's where they're going to open up the spigot, and hundreds of millions of dollars are going to flow into Georgia for those races, from both sides, I'm sure, because they know what this means, right?
03:02:49.000If both of those races go to the Dems, then you've got a 50-50, and guess who makes a deciding vote every time there's a tie in the Senate?
03:04:55.000We start filming the second season in January.
03:04:57.000And we are going to have an interesting episode on, not necessarily on aliens, but on the program surrounding the government's investigation of unidentified objects and things.
03:05:07.000So we're going to dive a lot deeper into it.
03:05:11.000Hopefully I'll come back and I'll have answers, specific answers for your question.