The Joe Rogan Experience - November 20, 2020


Joe Rogan Experience #1568 - Tom Green


Episode Stats

Length

4 hours and 36 minutes

Words per Minute

182.927

Word Count

50,497

Sentence Count

5,681

Misogynist Sentences

85


Summary

In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe talks about his new TV show, "The Wild Man in a Van," and how it reminds him of his favorite TV character, Tom Green. He also talks about how he got into the van and what it's like living out in the wilderness with his dog, Charlie, who's a rescue dog from the Bahamas. And he talks about what he's been up to since he got a new truck and how he's going to travel the country in it. Joe also talks a little bit about the new truck he's got, the Ram Promaster 2500, and why he's not a fan of sleeping in the backseat of his new truck. And, of course, there's a whole bunch of other stuff he's talking about, too, like getting tested by his ex-wife, Drew, and his new van, the Boho Boho-Boho Tank Tank! Enjoy the episode, and don't forget to subscribe to the pod by clicking the bell to get notified when a new episode is available. It means you'll be the first to know when new episodes are available. Subscribe to the podcast! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Subscribe on Podcoin Learn more about your ad choices. Rate, review, and subscribe to our podcast. All of that and more by becoming a supporter of The O.J. Rogan Podcast! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Thank you for listening to The OJ Rogan Show. Thank you so much for being a friend of the OJ Show! - Thank you, CJ Rogan and Good Morning Podcasts. Cheers. - Cheers, Cheers! - Rory Mclean - Rory Dorsey - Caitie, AJ Rogan, JR, and the Crew at The Oj Show, JRODGS, and The Crew at Old Town Roadhouse Thank You, Caitie & The Crew, JROGAN! - The OJJ Podcast, - & the Crew, Gorms, by Mr. Dorian, All Day Show, by Ms. , and the Oj Day, The Crew , (featuring the OVY Boho House, , & The OVYS, & The Wacky Crew, "The OJ Podcast, by the OZ Show, and .


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:12.000 Hello, eccentric character known as Tom Green.
00:00:15.000 Joe, how are you?
00:00:16.000 You're the wild man living in a van now.
00:00:19.000 Oh, yeah.
00:00:19.000 You are that eccentric character.
00:00:22.000 You go from being a television and movie star to being a wild man traveling the land with your vagabond dog that you got from another country.
00:00:31.000 She's a rescue from the Bahamas?
00:00:33.000 Yeah, Charlie.
00:00:34.000 She's a rescue from the Bahamas.
00:00:35.000 She's goddamn adorable, by the way.
00:00:37.000 I love her.
00:00:37.000 She's beautiful.
00:00:39.000 You are this eccentric character now.
00:00:41.000 Look at you.
00:00:42.000 I guess so.
00:00:42.000 I feel like maybe...
00:00:43.000 I feel like in some ways what I'm doing right now is the most normal thing I've done in my life, but it is actually kind of crazy too.
00:00:49.000 It's crazy compared to people, but I think it fits you like a glove.
00:00:53.000 I really do.
00:00:54.000 Yeah?
00:00:55.000 Yeah.
00:00:55.000 Well, you know, I like going out into the wilderness.
00:00:57.000 I always have.
00:00:58.000 Yeah.
00:00:58.000 And I've been out in this van that I just got, which is amazing, and I'm going...
00:01:04.000 Pretty hard with it.
00:01:05.000 Is this the first time you've been tested since you got tested the last time on my show?
00:01:09.000 I got tested one time between, but that's another interesting story.
00:01:14.000 Let's hear it.
00:01:15.000 What happened?
00:01:16.000 Well, my ex-wife asked me to come on her talk show, and I hadn't talked to her in 15 years.
00:01:20.000 Drew?
00:01:21.000 Drew, yeah.
00:01:22.000 Was that a trap?
00:01:25.000 It was nice.
00:01:26.000 Did you get nervous?
00:01:27.000 It was nice.
00:01:27.000 It was nice.
00:01:28.000 We had a good time.
00:01:28.000 That's cool.
00:01:30.000 But I had to get tested to do the show.
00:01:32.000 But it was interesting because, you know, it was a very sort of interesting thing because, you know, we hadn't talked in 15 years.
00:01:38.000 At all?
00:01:39.000 At all.
00:01:40.000 And then, all of a sudden, I got a call from her saying, hey, welcome to the new show.
00:01:45.000 And her new show's really pretty wacky.
00:01:49.000 She's getting really kind of...
00:01:50.000 I like how you put your hands out for wacky.
00:01:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:01:53.000 Wacky.
00:01:53.000 She's definitely pushing it in a very sort of...
00:01:56.000 I mean, I'm enjoying the show.
00:01:57.000 It's very funny what she's doing.
00:01:58.000 Very over the top, some of the things she does on there.
00:02:01.000 That's representative of her as well?
00:02:04.000 It reminds me a lot of her.
00:02:06.000 Well, I mean, it is her, yeah, for sure.
00:02:08.000 What she really is, like who she really is.
00:02:10.000 I think so, yeah.
00:02:11.000 As you get older, you tend to be able to figure out who you really are better.
00:02:15.000 Like with you, like doing this van thing.
00:02:18.000 I'm the guy living down by the river in the van.
00:02:20.000 It makes sense to me.
00:02:21.000 When you told me you were going to do that, I'm going to travel across the country and just drive around the van with my dog.
00:02:26.000 I was like, I could see you enjoying that.
00:02:28.000 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
00:02:29.000 Yeah.
00:02:29.000 You know, it's a whole world, man.
00:02:32.000 It's a whole world that I didn't even know about.
00:02:35.000 Like, I didn't know...
00:02:36.000 In Canada, it's called Crown Land.
00:02:39.000 Here, it's called BLM Land, Bureau of Land, Managed Land.
00:02:42.000 I'm sure you know all about that from hunting and going out into the wilderness.
00:02:45.000 I didn't really know about Bureau of Land Management Land, and there's certain apps that will show you all the fire roads, all the remote places that you can go and do dispersed camping, go boondocking, they're called...
00:02:59.000 Does your van have off-road capabilities?
00:03:01.000 Can you drive on rugged trails?
00:03:03.000 Yeah, pretty good.
00:03:03.000 I got, like, it's not an off-road vehicle.
00:03:06.000 It's a Ram Promaster 2500. It's, you know, a delivery truck that they convert into...
00:03:14.000 My friend Tim Pool did that.
00:03:15.000 I believe he got a Ram as well.
00:03:17.000 This was a Ram, wasn't it, Jamie?
00:03:19.000 I think it's a Ram as well.
00:03:21.000 And he did the same thing.
00:03:22.000 He turned it into a bug-out van.
00:03:23.000 So the Ram is wider than the Mercedes Sprinter van, which you see a lot of.
00:03:28.000 It's wider, so I can actually sleep full width-wise.
00:03:31.000 The bed's width-wise at the back.
00:03:34.000 But, you know, it just kind of happened pretty...
00:03:38.000 Randomly, I saw this clip online of these guys in Arizona who convert the vans.
00:03:43.000 I called them up.
00:03:44.000 They were on Shark Tank.
00:03:45.000 These guys, they're called Boho.
00:03:47.000 This van's called Boho.
00:03:48.000 They're really cool dudes.
00:03:49.000 Boho?
00:03:49.000 Yeah, Boho.
00:03:50.000 Like B-O-H-O? Yeah, and by the way, they are like, they love that I'm here right now.
00:03:56.000 They're your biggest fan.
00:03:57.000 They literally have watched every episode of your show, and so they're going to Take a shit right now.
00:04:02.000 They're probably really happy that I'm mentioning them on the show.
00:04:05.000 They were on Shark Tank.
00:04:07.000 These two young guys, they started this company where they bought Ram Promasters.
00:04:11.000 Totally independent thing.
00:04:13.000 And they do this great carpentry.
00:04:15.000 They build out the inside.
00:04:16.000 It's all cedar.
00:04:18.000 Do you have images of your van online?
00:04:21.000 Yeah, that's the inside of the van there.
00:04:23.000 Oh, I like the wood.
00:04:24.000 That's nice.
00:04:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:26.000 And see, I got my speakers set up.
00:04:28.000 And the thing that's kind of like, Cool about this in the Mojave Desert.
00:04:33.000 There's Charlie chilling.
00:04:34.000 Look at her.
00:04:35.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:36.000 So when you say you have your studio, so you're doing your podcast from the road.
00:04:40.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:04:41.000 And how are you doing it?
00:04:43.000 Like whenever you feel like it, you just fire up the podcast when you've got something to say and...
00:04:48.000 Yeah.
00:04:48.000 Dude, that thing looks killer in there.
00:04:50.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:51.000 See?
00:04:51.000 Oh, you got a little kitchenette set up and how you cooking?
00:04:56.000 There's a vent.
00:04:56.000 Oh, you got an awning?
00:04:57.000 And I'm shooting these drone shots too, which are pretty fun.
00:05:00.000 Dude, you're rolling drones?
00:05:02.000 Look at this!
00:05:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:03.000 This is the Mojave.
00:05:04.000 Check out all those Joshua trees burned.
00:05:06.000 Those are burned Joshua trees.
00:05:08.000 Oh, wow.
00:05:10.000 So, you know, it's kind of like, you know, I've always been into the techie kind of building out studio stuff, right?
00:05:16.000 Sure.
00:05:17.000 When I found out about these vans, the thing that really kind of piqued my interest is the battery and solar technology that exists now.
00:05:26.000 So there's two solar panels on the roof, and in the back I've got these batteries.
00:05:31.000 They're called battle-borne batteries.
00:05:33.000 They're really solid.
00:05:35.000 They use them in sailboats to go around the world, basically.
00:05:39.000 And there's four of them.
00:05:40.000 And the solar panels are charging them constantly.
00:05:43.000 So I've built...
00:05:44.000 I've got my computers.
00:05:46.000 I've got my cameras.
00:05:47.000 I've got my drone.
00:05:48.000 I'm charging batteries all the time.
00:05:50.000 I've got a refrigerator in there so I can have, you know, cold beer, right?
00:05:56.000 And it's sweet.
00:05:58.000 So I can go out into the middle of nowhere and have virtually unlimited electronic capability and just stay there as long as I want until I run out of food.
00:06:09.000 Wow.
00:06:09.000 And so those solar panels, how efficient are they?
00:06:12.000 Like, will they power your studio and all that stuff where you don't have to use your engine?
00:06:18.000 You don't have to start up and use gas?
00:06:20.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:06:20.000 Are you running diesel in your van?
00:06:22.000 No.
00:06:22.000 No, but that just happened to be...
00:06:26.000 The way it went because that van was available and I got that one.
00:06:30.000 But how's the gas mileage?
00:06:31.000 It's pretty good.
00:06:32.000 I'll tell you one thing though.
00:06:33.000 I am always filling up.
00:06:35.000 I never let it go below three quarters of a tank.
00:06:37.000 Just in case shit gets weird.
00:06:38.000 I never know where I'm going every day.
00:06:40.000 I got weird stories over the last six weeks where I've just been like, Not sure where I'm going to sleep, and the sun's going down, and then I end up going down a crazy road.
00:06:50.000 And then the first night I got stuck in the Mojave Desert because I looked up on this app, Dispersed Fire Road.
00:06:59.000 I'm thinking, oh, that's pretty cool.
00:07:01.000 I get there.
00:07:02.000 There's a sign that says tortoises crossing.
00:07:04.000 Careful.
00:07:05.000 I start driving out into the desert.
00:07:06.000 I'm 200 yards in.
00:07:08.000 I get stuck.
00:07:09.000 Because it's the soft sand, gets stuck in the soft sand.
00:07:12.000 So I've been a little more careful, but...
00:07:14.000 How do you get out when you get stuck in the soft sand?
00:07:17.000 Called AAA. Oh.
00:07:18.000 AAA comes in the desert?
00:07:20.000 I was 100 yards from the freeway.
00:07:23.000 It was like I hadn't even gotten into it yet.
00:07:25.000 It was so pathetic.
00:07:27.000 It was hilarious, actually.
00:07:28.000 Because I've been planning for months, you know?
00:07:30.000 And then all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm seeing the, you know, the free...
00:07:33.000 So, can I... Before we get into your adventure, I want to get more into this van build.
00:07:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:39.000 So, you started it out with just buying this van.
00:07:42.000 Is it a new van?
00:07:44.000 Brand new, yeah.
00:07:44.000 So you bought a brand new van, and then you bring it to these boho guys, and these guys, what do they do?
00:07:50.000 They ask you, what are you planning on doing?
00:07:52.000 You plan on using this as a studio?
00:07:54.000 Like, your idea from the jump was to do your podcast on the road with no plans other than your own whims, right?
00:08:04.000 So when you do something like that, how do you know what you're going to need?
00:08:08.000 You didn't really have any experience in off-roading or that kind of living out of a van.
00:08:14.000 How did you know what you're going to need?
00:08:15.000 Did you research it?
00:08:16.000 Yeah.
00:08:17.000 So, well, there's a couple of categories of research.
00:08:22.000 One was just building the studio itself.
00:08:23.000 So I built the studio at home first.
00:08:25.000 That was just the nitty-gritty technical stuff, what kind of microphones, what kind of...
00:08:31.000 Amps and preamps I'm going to use.
00:08:33.000 I have some amps that use tubes.
00:08:36.000 I got rid of those because I figured the tubes would rattle out in the dirt road.
00:08:39.000 Boring techy stuff.
00:08:41.000 But as far as the survival and the food and all of that and the van...
00:08:49.000 They've been real great.
00:08:50.000 I built my studio equipment into a road case, and I thought, well, that could fit under the bed, and then we sort of planned it out where there's a little door that opens, and you can access it under the bed, and we've wired all the cables through the walls,
00:09:06.000 and it's pretty efficient.
00:09:08.000 So you get everything you need to do a podcast down into one box.
00:09:12.000 Right.
00:09:12.000 Yeah.
00:09:13.000 So you just pull that box out, and then you're ready to roll.
00:09:15.000 It's actually permanently housed under the bed, so I have a table that pulls out.
00:09:20.000 That table I was sitting at there, just under there.
00:09:23.000 A little door opens.
00:09:26.000 Microphones plugged in and away you go.
00:09:28.000 But the other side of it is like a lot of the video stuff too, like the drone, the cameras.
00:09:33.000 Like I've got some new cameras that I'm kind of messing with that are exciting to me.
00:09:37.000 And so I'm kind of out there.
00:09:40.000 The thing that I was thinking, I was thinking, am I going to get bored out here?
00:09:43.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to ask you.
00:09:44.000 I'm all alone.
00:09:45.000 Or lonely.
00:09:46.000 Am I going to get bored or lonely?
00:09:48.000 Yeah.
00:09:50.000 I haven't, because I've populated the van with stuff to do.
00:09:54.000 So when I get bored of the drone, then I'm making music, too.
00:09:58.000 So I've made a...
00:09:59.000 It's a recording music studio, too.
00:10:01.000 What kind of music?
00:10:02.000 Well, I'm doing some sort of different stuff.
00:10:04.000 I've got my acoustic guitar, so I'm going to start doing some country rap type of stuff.
00:10:12.000 Are you going to go on tour?
00:10:13.000 Country rap.
00:10:14.000 I call it crap, Joe.
00:10:15.000 It's country rap.
00:10:15.000 Are you going to go on tour?
00:10:17.000 Maybe, maybe, yeah.
00:10:18.000 As a singer?
00:10:19.000 Wow.
00:10:20.000 Yeah, I could see that.
00:10:22.000 No, I don't know.
00:10:22.000 I don't know.
00:10:23.000 I mean, I'll probably maybe incorporate it into my stand-up or something like that.
00:10:27.000 You know, I was a rapper when I was a teenager.
00:10:29.000 Yeah, I remember.
00:10:31.000 So to get back to this build-out.
00:10:34.000 So you get it where you're ready.
00:10:36.000 You still have your house in LA, right?
00:10:37.000 And then you decide, all right, let's do it.
00:10:41.000 You start the car up and you go.
00:10:43.000 Where did you go?
00:10:44.000 I drove out into the Mojave Desert.
00:10:47.000 That's the first place.
00:10:48.000 The destination was Utah, and so I started by going out to the Mojave Desert.
00:10:54.000 And what time of the year was this?
00:10:56.000 This was, I guess, six or seven weeks ago, I guess.
00:10:59.000 I've been on the road ever since.
00:11:01.000 Wow.
00:11:01.000 It was great, man.
00:11:04.000 Just eating out of your van?
00:11:05.000 Yeah, so that was part of planning the food.
00:11:08.000 So I've got these big Rubbermaid containers in the trunk, four of them.
00:11:13.000 Do you have a refrigerator?
00:11:14.000 I have a refrigerator, yep.
00:11:16.000 Is that solar powered as well?
00:11:18.000 It runs off the electric system, so the solar is charging the batteries, and the batteries run the electric for the whole van.
00:11:24.000 All the lights are LED, so it's very effective, efficient, and the fridge is also high-efficiency cooler, essentially.
00:11:32.000 So is it like one of those roll-out coolers that people have?
00:11:36.000 It's under one of the seats.
00:11:37.000 It's called a Dometic.
00:11:41.000 Because there's a lot of guys who do...
00:11:43.000 They don't call it off-roading.
00:11:46.000 What do they call it when they go out into the wilderness?
00:11:49.000 Boondocking.
00:11:50.000 I don't think they call it that either.
00:11:52.000 That's the van life term for what people are doing with these vans now.
00:11:57.000 Where they go off-grid and...
00:12:00.000 Boondocking is, I think it's a Filipino word from the U.S. military brought that word.
00:12:05.000 There's a lot of people that plan, they get a kick out of meticulously planning like a 500 mile venture through the off-road, through the wilderness with these like off-road, I forget why they call it trekking, god damn it.
00:12:21.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
00:12:22.000 I got into it for a while.
00:12:24.000 I went down a rabbit hole.
00:12:25.000 There's tons of videos on YouTube of these guys.
00:12:29.000 Overlanding, sorry.
00:12:29.000 That's what they call it.
00:12:30.000 Overlanding.
00:12:31.000 So I'm not going, you know, I don't have extra fuel.
00:12:35.000 So I've got my tank of fuel.
00:12:37.000 So I usually, when I get off the main highway, I make sure I've got full tank.
00:12:42.000 And I've never, I've gotten close to running out of fuel.
00:12:45.000 Have you thought now that you've had this thing for six weeks, you've been doing it for six weeks to make revisions?
00:12:50.000 Like maybe have some exterior fuel canisters, maybe put an extended range gas tank in.
00:12:58.000 You thinking about all these things?
00:13:00.000 Yeah.
00:13:00.000 I love these questions.
00:13:01.000 Yeah, overlanders do all that stuff.
00:13:03.000 So there's like, yeah, definitely.
00:13:06.000 Definitely.
00:13:07.000 You know, the thing is, is this van is...
00:13:10.000 Yeah, I could.
00:13:10.000 I mean, look, I'm amazed how remote...
00:13:14.000 You can go.
00:13:16.000 And this is what I kind of talk about on my social media and some of the videos I make on YouTube.
00:13:21.000 I'm sometimes sort of telling people like, hey, you know, if you're like sitting around at home right now and you're bored and you're angry about shit, you can just get in your car and drive out to these beautiful places.
00:13:39.000 You know, the last week, I was on the top of a mountain in the Lincoln National Forest, right on the border of New Mexico and Texas.
00:13:50.000 And, I mean, there's drone shots where there's nobody for, like, seems like 100 miles.
00:13:58.000 I drove for an hour up this two-lane paved highway and didn't see a car the entire time driving there.
00:14:06.000 And then you get up there and you find...
00:14:09.000 A place to camp.
00:14:12.000 Hunters are up there, so there's lots of dispersed spots with fire pits.
00:14:16.000 You're up there all by yourself, and you get up in the morning, and I make coffee with this gas-powered kettle, so I'm not eating my battery.
00:14:28.000 I've got all these propane tanks.
00:14:29.000 I've got a Coleman stove.
00:14:30.000 I'm cooking with my Coleman stove.
00:14:32.000 I got lots of cans of beans.
00:14:34.000 I'm eating a lot of Spam.
00:14:35.000 And ragu.
00:14:36.000 I remember you gave me some shit about the ragu last time.
00:14:38.000 It was pretty good, the ragu.
00:14:40.000 I don't think I gave you shit.
00:14:42.000 I was just kind of joking around with you.
00:14:44.000 Yeah, but like, you know, I'm eating a lot of canned food.
00:14:47.000 Because part of what happened was this started from...
00:14:50.000 The whole quarantining, right?
00:14:52.000 I got all this canned food for the house, and I was just cooking for myself, and then I thought, you know, I could just take this out, take this on the road.
00:14:59.000 So you're spending a lot of time with no people.
00:15:02.000 Like, did it feel weird coming here?
00:15:04.000 Like, there's all the people, security people here, and Jamie, and Jeff, and me.
00:15:07.000 Did it feel weird?
00:15:08.000 Like, all these people?
00:15:09.000 What does it feel like?
00:15:13.000 You know, it's interesting because...
00:15:17.000 You start to feel a little bit, and I think this is probably something that maybe is affecting everybody with the quarantining and the pandemic and all that stuff.
00:15:26.000 Maybe not, maybe, certainly not everyone's in their van, but you start to get to the point where you think, maybe I didn't get social anxiety coming here because, like, I know you guys are getting all tested and all that stuff, but I have a little bit...
00:15:41.000 You know I have a little bit more paranoia about getting this virus than the average person.
00:15:45.000 Because of cancer?
00:15:46.000 I think so.
00:15:47.000 I think so, yeah.
00:15:48.000 I think so.
00:15:49.000 So, you know, because I just don't...
00:15:50.000 It's not even that I feel like I'm more susceptible to it.
00:15:52.000 It's just I really hate being sick.
00:15:56.000 When I had cancer, I was in the hospital for six weeks.
00:15:58.000 It was, like, painful.
00:15:59.000 I just hate it.
00:16:00.000 I hate that loss of control, you know?
00:16:03.000 So...
00:16:03.000 But, no, I mean...
00:16:06.000 Are you taking care of yourself, like, vitamin-wise?
00:16:08.000 Are you taking supplements?
00:16:11.000 I think I'm eating pretty healthy.
00:16:13.000 With your spam and ragu?
00:16:15.000 But, I mean, like, there's a lot of vitamins in that.
00:16:17.000 Slow down.
00:16:17.000 There's a lot of vitamins in that stuff.
00:16:20.000 No.
00:16:21.000 Look, I'm exercising.
00:16:24.000 I'm doing a lot of walks.
00:16:26.000 That's cool.
00:16:27.000 I'm going deep into these woods.
00:16:29.000 Are you getting any fresh vegetables at all?
00:16:31.000 I have canned corn.
00:16:35.000 I have a large quantity of canned corn.
00:16:38.000 Corn is barely a vegetable.
00:16:39.000 I was told corn, rice, and beans is enough for subsistence.
00:16:46.000 Yeah, you can stay alive.
00:16:47.000 Your heart will stay beating.
00:16:49.000 I'm just trying to stay alive.
00:16:49.000 No, I want you to take care of yourself like vitamins and nutrients.
00:16:54.000 Corn is very little of that.
00:16:55.000 I have onions.
00:16:57.000 That's not good either.
00:16:57.000 They last a long time.
00:16:58.000 And potatoes?
00:16:59.000 Yeah.
00:16:59.000 Well, there's a little bit of potatoes.
00:17:01.000 And potatoes.
00:17:01.000 You kind of live off of potatoes.
00:17:02.000 They last a long time.
00:17:03.000 I have, I mean, full disclosure, just to be clear, I have done a few, you know, curbside pickup at Walmart and I've got oranges.
00:17:11.000 So I've got oranges.
00:17:12.000 Oh, so you won't go inside?
00:17:14.000 Yeah, not really trying not to go inside.
00:17:17.000 I have gone inside a couple of times, admittedly.
00:17:19.000 You're nervous about going inside of Walmart?
00:17:22.000 I did do it once, yeah.
00:17:24.000 Wow.
00:17:24.000 Because it was late and I was quite hungry.
00:17:27.000 But you're hardcore with this fear of the virus.
00:17:33.000 I'm not sure how...
00:17:34.000 Yes, I am.
00:17:35.000 Yes, I am.
00:17:36.000 I am sure that I am.
00:17:38.000 But I also am enjoying...
00:17:39.000 Not enjoying.
00:17:40.000 That's the wrong word.
00:17:41.000 I am just trying to see if I can do it, too.
00:17:45.000 I'm trying to see if I can do it.
00:17:46.000 Is it possible to go remote, off the grid, and just sort of be disconnected from the...
00:17:53.000 The luxuries that we're used to having in life of being able to go to a Walmart and grab any food you want.
00:17:58.000 I think I'll have some sushi.
00:18:00.000 I think I'll grab a plate of fresh cut steak.
00:18:03.000 It's kind of interesting to go out into these places that are incredibly remote and beautiful and to cook on an open flame.
00:18:14.000 I brought a fishing rod.
00:18:15.000 I haven't caught anything yet.
00:18:17.000 Have you done any fishing?
00:18:18.000 I did a little bit, but I honestly haven't had a lot of time.
00:18:21.000 How are you getting your licenses?
00:18:23.000 Online, online.
00:18:24.000 Online, yeah.
00:18:25.000 Yeah, I also, I did bring a shotgun as well.
00:18:29.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:18:29.000 For protection or for birds?
00:18:32.000 Well, I have, I've been hunting, but I have not actually seen an animal yet.
00:18:38.000 No animals at all?
00:18:39.000 No, no.
00:18:40.000 Are you bringing your dog?
00:18:41.000 That might be a part of the problem.
00:18:43.000 No, I don't bring the dog, actually.
00:18:45.000 I don't.
00:18:45.000 So when you say you go hunting, what are you hunting for?
00:18:49.000 Well, in my mind, it would be for birds.
00:18:52.000 I have a bird gun.
00:18:54.000 What gauge?
00:18:55.000 It's a 12-gauge Benelli.
00:18:57.000 That's a big gun for birds.
00:19:00.000 Is it?
00:19:00.000 Yeah.
00:19:01.000 Well, I guess I got...
00:19:02.000 Yeah, I guess so.
00:19:03.000 It's a Benelli...
00:19:03.000 For ducks, I guess.
00:19:05.000 Maybe.
00:19:05.000 I don't even know what I'm doing, Joe.
00:19:06.000 I don't know.
00:19:07.000 But what birds are you targeting?
00:19:09.000 Well, I'm not really, honestly...
00:19:11.000 I honestly have it just because I feel like when I'm going in bear country, and when I go walking deep into the woods, I kind of feel a little nervous.
00:19:18.000 So I've got my bear spray.
00:19:20.000 I've got my, you know, hunting knife.
00:19:23.000 I've got my hands.
00:19:25.000 You ready to rock?
00:19:25.000 I'm ready to rock.
00:19:27.000 But I honestly just like to walk in the woods, and I like to go deep out into the woods, and I bring a compass with me, and I go way out.
00:19:37.000 I have the system to not get lost.
00:19:39.000 A system?
00:19:40.000 I have a system, yeah.
00:19:41.000 What's the system?
00:19:44.000 Well, basically, so like last week I was up on this mountaintop in the Lincoln National Forest and so there was a sort of a long, straight, I'd call it like a ravine or something.
00:20:00.000 So I just walked straight along that ravine.
00:20:02.000 I knew that would lead back to the van.
00:20:04.000 And I followed that until I, probably a mile or so, until I hit a landmark that went that way.
00:20:11.000 It was a sort of a limestone ledge that went straight.
00:20:15.000 So I don't go so far that I'm going in circles, right?
00:20:20.000 Keeping very good track on those landmarks and I just know that okay, I walked a mile down to this ravine and this ravine to this limestone ledge, now I'll walk a mile that way.
00:20:31.000 Do you find yourself way more aware of where you are because you have to be responsible for yourself and because you are alone, off-grid, different than you would be that if you were with a bunch of friends wandering around you probably wouldn't be paying that much attention?
00:20:46.000 I love it.
00:20:47.000 It's my favorite thing.
00:20:49.000 You know, I really do love it.
00:20:51.000 You know, we talked about it before, you know, how I used to go on canoe trips in Canada when I was a kid.
00:20:56.000 And just, you know, this is the first time I've ever done it alone, alone.
00:20:59.000 I've never done camping alone before.
00:21:01.000 Who goes camping alone?
00:21:02.000 But, you know, there's something even really extra special about it.
00:21:06.000 Yeah, I have a lot of friends who really enjoy it.
00:21:09.000 And to clarify, I do bring the dog with me on a lot of these walks when I have the shotgun, but I have no intention of firing the gun because I don't want to hurt her ears, right?
00:21:20.000 Oh yeah, for sure.
00:21:21.000 But if I ever went with the intention of possibly firing the gun, then I leave her in the van.
00:21:29.000 You have to worry about coyotes with her, huh?
00:21:31.000 Oh, yeah.
00:21:33.000 This happened a couple nights ago.
00:21:35.000 It was really kind of interesting.
00:21:37.000 Dogs are so smart.
00:21:38.000 We should let everybody know.
00:21:38.000 She's a little doggy, but she's adorable.
00:21:43.000 So the other night...
00:21:45.000 Say hi, Chopper.
00:21:46.000 Hi, sweetie.
00:21:49.000 She was sleeping, you could tell.
00:21:50.000 She's like, Dad, I was just sleeping.
00:21:54.000 What are you doing?
00:21:55.000 The other night, we were surrounded by them.
00:21:58.000 Multiple times we've been surrounded by them in the van at night.
00:22:01.000 So it was sort of late at night, and I had a campfire going, and we just heard, like, you know, I don't know, more than I've ever heard, actually.
00:22:09.000 There must have been, like, 30 or something out there.
00:22:11.000 And they were howling, and for a moment, she barked, and then I said, Quiet.
00:22:16.000 And then she sort of realized, I could see her realize, because she barks at everything.
00:22:20.000 There's a video I've put up on my YouTube, which is pretty funny, because, you know, we saw some, we saw a javelina, you know, a wild boar.
00:22:29.000 Oh, they'll kill your dog too, man.
00:22:31.000 Yeah, we were in the van, so we were driving down this road, this was in New Mexico, and I'm getting my camera to get this shot of this, you know, wild boar.
00:22:42.000 A javelina is not really a pig.
00:22:43.000 It looks like a pig, but it's not.
00:22:45.000 It's a peccary.
00:22:46.000 It's a different kind of animal.
00:22:47.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:22:47.000 I think it wasn't a wild boar.
00:22:49.000 It was a javelina.
00:22:50.000 Yeah, I think it was, yeah.
00:22:52.000 I'd never seen one before.
00:22:53.000 Where was this?
00:22:53.000 New Mexico.
00:22:54.000 Yeah, they have one thing.
00:22:55.000 In the Gila National Forest.
00:22:58.000 Gila.
00:22:58.000 Gila.
00:22:58.000 Gila.
00:22:59.000 Yeah.
00:23:01.000 She's so cute.
00:23:02.000 So she starts barking at it.
00:23:04.000 Look at this.
00:23:05.000 Yeah, there it is.
00:23:05.000 Oh, you got video footage of it.
00:23:07.000 Oh yeah, that's definitely a javelina.
00:23:08.000 You'll see, and she starts barking, and then it runs off.
00:23:11.000 They're vicious little fuckers.
00:23:12.000 They killed Stan Hope's neighbor's dog.
00:23:14.000 Oh, really?
00:23:15.000 Yeah, there it goes.
00:23:16.000 It's interesting that it's by itself.
00:23:19.000 Yeah, so actually later, just up the road, we drove by a river.
00:23:23.000 Look at her.
00:23:24.000 She barks and then she yawns.
00:23:26.000 She's so well taken care of.
00:23:27.000 She's not worried.
00:23:28.000 Good job pulling that video up, Jamie.
00:23:30.000 That's pretty impressive.
00:23:31.000 Wow, look how beautiful that is.
00:23:32.000 Yeah, so that next shot there.
00:23:33.000 God, look at the landscape.
00:23:34.000 So this is the deer.
00:23:35.000 She scares the deer away here.
00:23:37.000 And that is just outside of Las Cruces, New Mexico.
00:23:42.000 You've got a few deer out there.
00:23:43.000 Yeah, there's a lot out there.
00:23:48.000 That's not actually my good lens.
00:23:49.000 That's in New Mexico, huh?
00:23:50.000 That's in New Mexico, yeah.
00:23:51.000 And she's barking at the deer?
00:23:52.000 Yeah.
00:23:53.000 Wow.
00:23:53.000 When was this?
00:23:55.000 How long ago?
00:23:55.000 This was, I don't know, a week ago.
00:23:58.000 They might be in season, son.
00:24:00.000 Oh yeah.
00:24:02.000 When I'm out for my walk, I've got my hunter orange on.
00:24:07.000 Do you have a license to shoot deer?
00:24:09.000 Do you have a tag?
00:24:10.000 I don't, no.
00:24:11.000 I just have a small game license for New Mexico.
00:24:15.000 If you've got a deer, do you know what to do with it?
00:24:18.000 Well, I have no intention of shooting a deer because I'm by myself.
00:24:22.000 I mean, what am I going to do with it?
00:24:23.000 Well, you don't have enough refrigeration.
00:24:25.000 But I do have Steve Rinelli's book on small game preparation.
00:24:29.000 Oh, really?
00:24:30.000 Oh, that's awesome.
00:24:30.000 And I loved your episode of that, by the way.
00:24:32.000 I just did one with him a couple of days ago.
00:24:34.000 A new one?
00:24:35.000 Yeah.
00:24:35.000 Oh, nice.
00:24:36.000 Yeah.
00:24:36.000 How long ago was that?
00:24:37.000 Five days ago?
00:24:38.000 Five episodes ago?
00:24:39.000 A week?
00:24:40.000 Yeah, he's awesome.
00:24:41.000 I particularly liked the...
00:24:43.000 Look at that little face.
00:24:45.000 Look at her.
00:24:46.000 She's so cute.
00:24:48.000 First thing she did to me is bite me.
00:24:50.000 She can run up to me, wagging her tail, and bit my fingers.
00:24:52.000 She just wants to play.
00:24:53.000 She's still teething a little bit.
00:24:54.000 How old is she?
00:24:55.000 She's probably six and a half months.
00:24:58.000 She's so cute.
00:24:59.000 She's so playful, too.
00:25:00.000 Yeah.
00:25:05.000 Full disclosure though, I've never really hunted before.
00:25:08.000 I'm not a hunter.
00:25:09.000 I've never hunted before.
00:25:10.000 A lot of fishing.
00:25:11.000 Grew up fishing.
00:25:12.000 Did a ton of that.
00:25:13.000 But I do like...
00:25:14.000 There's something about being all alone in the middle of nowhere at night surrounded by coyotes that I'd be lying if I say it wasn't a little bit scary.
00:25:30.000 Oh, yeah.
00:25:30.000 It's a little bit scary.
00:25:50.000 What you've done and are you happy with your choices in life?
00:25:53.000 Are you happy with your job?
00:25:54.000 Are you happy with your relationships?
00:25:56.000 Is that what you're experiencing too?
00:25:58.000 Oh yeah.
00:25:59.000 My friend Aaron Snyder, he's been on the podcast before, he owns Kofaru.
00:26:04.000 It's a big backpack company.
00:26:07.000 They make like really super high-end hunting backpacks and he spends hundreds of days a year in the woods by himself.
00:26:16.000 Either by himself or with other people hunting, and he goes on these long, backpacking, solo adventures hunting, where he goes deep into the woods, many, many, many miles in by himself, with just his camp on his back.
00:26:27.000 That's it.
00:26:27.000 And that's the thing that he's always said, is that you get in there, and then once you get back to civilization, you want to call ex-girlfriends and apologize, or call friends and mend fences, and just sort of give you an inventory of what you've been...
00:26:41.000 I think sometimes we get caught up in momentum in life, you know, that life is a series of things that you have to do.
00:26:50.000 You wake up in the morning, you have to be at work at a certain time, you try to get to the gym, you try to get this, and then you have phone calls you have to make, and then you have to, you know, sync your calendar with the other people you're working with, and then there's this and that, and then you're planning for...
00:27:03.000 In two weeks we have that meeting and this and that.
00:27:06.000 And you get so caught up in momentum.
00:27:09.000 You never stop to take a breath and look at yourself and look at what you're doing and go, is this what I like?
00:27:16.000 Is this what I want to do?
00:27:17.000 Or is this something that I'm just...
00:27:19.000 Am I on this sled that's flying down the side of this snow-covered mountain and I don't know exactly how I'm going to get off of it?
00:27:26.000 Uh-huh.
00:27:27.000 And you made me think of something.
00:27:28.000 A lot of the places I've been, no cell service.
00:27:32.000 And so it's three days and like maybe text will fire out, but there's no video.
00:27:39.000 There's no...
00:27:39.000 No reading YouTube comments.
00:27:41.000 No reading YouTube comments.
00:27:42.000 How nice is that?
00:27:43.000 Yeah.
00:27:43.000 There's been a few days where I'll get the cell service.
00:27:47.000 And then immediately check the YouTube comments.
00:27:49.000 And then I'm on it more than...
00:27:50.000 Yeah.
00:27:50.000 I know.
00:27:51.000 We've talked about this before.
00:27:53.000 I want to try to adopt that.
00:27:55.000 What is it?
00:27:55.000 You said post and ghost?
00:27:56.000 I love that.
00:27:56.000 Post and ghost.
00:27:57.000 I want to try to adopt that because I have sort of gone the opposite approach.
00:28:01.000 I'm like kind of interacting very much with those comments.
00:28:05.000 I'm sure the fans like that.
00:28:07.000 The nice fans.
00:28:07.000 I find it kind of a fun creative exercise.
00:28:10.000 Like sometimes I'll have...
00:28:12.000 You know a hater or whatever and then I'll get into a little thing with him and it's fun but for the most part I've created kind of a very positive thing but but like what's fun is just getting away from it from the phone but like what you said is exactly what it's been like going through that I just love it out there and and and what have you learned about yourself?
00:28:32.000 Definitely that I've been on my phone too much but I think I think one thing that I've learned is that it that I I actually do Pretty well being alone, actually.
00:28:44.000 I was worried that maybe I would not be able to...
00:28:48.000 Like, I thought...
00:28:49.000 One of the things I was thinking when I started this whole process of planning...
00:28:52.000 It was planned for several months, getting the van, getting all the stuff ready.
00:28:55.000 I thought, what if I get out there and I can't stand it?
00:28:58.000 What if I go two days in?
00:29:00.000 But I got to go home.
00:29:02.000 I need my shower and my bed.
00:29:04.000 But I actually...
00:29:06.000 After a couple of days, I just start to really kind of get very relaxed, and you start to kind of feel a nice connection with nature, I guess.
00:29:16.000 I'm going to bed at...
00:29:20.000 8 at night, 9 at night, waking up at 5.30 in the morning, you know, making my coffee as the sun is rising over a mountain, and so I'm watching the sun rise, and it's cold.
00:29:33.000 It's cold in the morning up there, man.
00:29:35.000 So especially when I was up in northern Utah, like, cold.
00:29:39.000 But there's a whole system to keeping the van warm and stuff, too.
00:29:43.000 But so...
00:29:44.000 I had a system to keeping the van warm.
00:29:46.000 Well, so the first few weeks I didn't have this proper insulation on the windows, so I ordered this stuff that's for the van windows.
00:29:55.000 Do you glue it to the windows or something?
00:29:57.000 Magnets.
00:29:58.000 There's these magnets.
00:29:58.000 You just take it off.
00:29:59.000 It's a nice thick sort of a padding.
00:30:03.000 So you heat up the van inside and then you put that up and it keeps the temperature?
00:30:06.000 I put it on first.
00:30:07.000 I just put it on.
00:30:07.000 I put it on.
00:30:08.000 It covers the windshield, the two front passenger, all windows.
00:30:11.000 They're completely sealed.
00:30:13.000 And then I start the engine and I run it.
00:30:16.000 I don't run the gas out, but I run it for 10 minutes.
00:30:20.000 The thing heats up.
00:30:21.000 And then I just don't open the door.
00:30:23.000 I do that right when it's time to kind of crash.
00:30:25.000 How long does it keep it warm for?
00:30:27.000 You know, it's warm until I fall asleep and then I wake up in the morning freezing my butt off.
00:30:31.000 But no, it's not too bad.
00:30:34.000 I mean, I don't think this would be something that you would want to go out in the winter in.
00:30:38.000 But, you know, this time of year, and down here in Texas, it was nice the last few days.
00:30:44.000 It's been nice.
00:30:45.000 There's a guy who's got a video.
00:30:47.000 He's living out of his van, too, doing the same sort of situation.
00:30:50.000 He's very organized, got the whole deal.
00:30:52.000 But he's doing it in Colorado.
00:30:54.000 Yeah.
00:30:54.000 And he's in the middle of the winter, like, covered in snow and does all these detailed things, like how he gets out of snow, what he does, and how he stays warm.
00:31:03.000 Yeah, I imagine it would be a lot less...
00:31:08.000 Simple up in that kind of temperature.
00:31:11.000 Well, just camping in cold weather is rough.
00:31:13.000 You have to have the right insulated sleeping bag.
00:31:16.000 You have to make sure that you have...
00:31:17.000 Yeah.
00:31:18.000 Down booties.
00:31:20.000 Down booties.
00:31:21.000 That's my new discovery.
00:31:23.000 On the internet, right?
00:31:24.000 This is what's hilarious about the world we're living in now with the internet and everything, having access to everything.
00:31:28.000 Before I left, I start researching, oh, here's a guy talking about winter camping.
00:31:32.000 Down booties, right?
00:31:33.000 There's these little feathery down things.
00:31:36.000 You put them on your bare feet at night, and you wear them in your sleeping bag, and your feet are warm, right?
00:31:42.000 If your feet are warm.
00:31:42.000 So I start, like, sort of seeing all these little things that, oh, that'll help, you know, these little products, and you...
00:31:51.000 Go on Amazon, shows up at your house the next day.
00:31:53.000 Your supplies start building up, you know?
00:31:56.000 But yeah, I have these down booties and, you know, I've got nice, you know, merino wool undergarments and things like this.
00:32:06.000 And I think I'm...
00:32:07.000 Is it merino wool?
00:32:08.000 It's hunting stuff, you know?
00:32:09.000 Merino wool is great because when you get wet, it doesn't make you cold.
00:32:14.000 If you get wet in cotton and then you get cold, you're in trouble.
00:32:18.000 The issue is if you're going somewhere and you're hiking and it's cold out.
00:32:23.000 Well, even though it's cold out, if you're hiking and you're wearing a lot of layers, you're going to sweat.
00:32:28.000 But if you sweat and you're wearing cotton, you're in big trouble.
00:32:32.000 Because as soon as you cool off, that wet cotton freezes.
00:32:35.000 It feels terrible.
00:32:37.000 But wool is different.
00:32:39.000 Wet wool keeps you warm.
00:32:41.000 Yeah.
00:32:42.000 You can be in wool, and it gets wet, and it's wet still.
00:32:45.000 It's not the most comfortable thing, but you're warm.
00:32:47.000 Right.
00:32:47.000 It's very interesting.
00:32:49.000 Yeah.
00:32:49.000 I guess because it's like an animal fiber.
00:32:53.000 Yeah.
00:32:55.000 It's been relatively comfortable.
00:32:58.000 There's been a few nights where I've been a little colder than I would have liked to have been.
00:33:01.000 And a lot of the places I've been right now, it's no fires because of the dry.
00:33:08.000 But the last week I was in a place I could have a fire, so I keep a nice campfire going.
00:33:12.000 Were you in Utah?
00:33:13.000 Where were you?
00:33:14.000 That was up in the Gila National Forest.
00:33:17.000 No, that was the Lincoln National Forest.
00:33:19.000 So you went to New Mexico and then you drove your way up to Austin.
00:33:24.000 Well, one of the most beautiful places I went, by the way, was in Utah.
00:33:28.000 I went to this place called the Valley of the Gods on the Navajo reservation there.
00:33:33.000 Oh, my gosh.
00:33:35.000 There's a video of that.
00:33:36.000 I don't know if you have a video of that drone shot.
00:33:38.000 They shot all the John Wayne movies out there in Monument Valley, and then just down the road is this place called the Valley of the Gods.
00:33:43.000 Look at this place.
00:33:45.000 All alone right there.
00:33:47.000 That's you.
00:33:47.000 Look at that.
00:33:48.000 That's your drone footage.
00:33:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:33:49.000 Wow.
00:33:50.000 And, you know, a big part of this for me is also looking for places that are going to photograph well, you know, because I enjoy photography and video.
00:34:00.000 Do you have all this stuff on TomGreen.com?
00:34:02.000 Is this on your YouTube channel?
00:34:03.000 I put it on my YouTube channel, yeah, yeah.
00:34:05.000 And then I link it to my website.
00:34:06.000 Yeah, it's on TomGreen.com too, yeah.
00:34:08.000 So I get these shots.
00:34:10.000 You see Charlie chilling out there.
00:34:12.000 Charlie is intrigued by the drone.
00:34:14.000 The first 10 times I've flown it, she just sort of...
00:34:17.000 See, she's going under the van because she hears the drone coming.
00:34:20.000 Did you call her Chopper and Charlie?
00:34:23.000 No, I must have just...
00:34:24.000 No, Charlie, yeah.
00:34:25.000 Did someone call her Chopper?
00:34:26.000 Did I just call her Chopper?
00:34:28.000 I don't know.
00:34:28.000 Maybe, yeah.
00:34:29.000 That's your new nickname.
00:34:30.000 That's your new middle name.
00:34:31.000 Charlie Chopper.
00:34:32.000 Why did I call her Chopper?
00:34:33.000 Did someone else call her Chopper outside?
00:34:36.000 Yeah, Charlie, Charlie, yeah.
00:34:37.000 Named after Travels with Charlie, the John Steinbeck novel, Travels with Charlie.
00:34:43.000 And if you see on the van, see at the back, you can't read it, but there's a blurry word right above the rear wheel.
00:34:48.000 It's Rossinante, which is what, yeah, right there, which was Steinbeck called his van, Rossinante, which is named after Don Quixote's horse.
00:34:58.000 So there's multiple layers of homages there.
00:35:01.000 But look at that shot.
00:35:01.000 Isn't that amazing?
00:35:02.000 It is amazing.
00:35:03.000 I love your shirt, too.
00:35:05.000 That's a very lumberjack-y shirt you're wearing in there.
00:35:07.000 Oh, yeah.
00:35:08.000 It's warm.
00:35:08.000 It's warm.
00:35:09.000 The last shot of this video, I don't know if you can just scroll that ahead.
00:35:12.000 God, that's so pretty.
00:35:13.000 The last shot of this video, I waited for sunset.
00:35:15.000 Oh, here's how I take a shower.
00:35:16.000 So you can just go out there and camp anywhere you want.
00:35:19.000 Just pull over and camp.
00:35:20.000 Yeah.
00:35:21.000 Now, do you have any concern about running into serial killers?
00:35:24.000 Well, that's why I got the shotgun Joe, but, you know.
00:35:28.000 You look like a serial killer.
00:35:30.000 Yeah.
00:35:30.000 You look like, if I was going through there with my family, and you were like, hello, and you're just waving, I'd be like, oh, fuck.
00:35:38.000 Yeah, yeah, they don't want to mess with me.
00:35:39.000 Who's this crazy guy?
00:35:40.000 They don't want to mess with me.
00:35:41.000 Look at the last shot right after this, though.
00:35:43.000 There's this sunset.
00:35:44.000 Look at those buttes in the background.
00:35:47.000 See that?
00:35:47.000 The shot after this one.
00:35:48.000 Just let it roll.
00:35:49.000 You'll see.
00:35:50.000 Just let it roll.
00:35:50.000 You'll see.
00:35:51.000 But I kind of like to wait for the sun to get these nice shots.
00:35:54.000 So this is the shot here.
00:35:55.000 Watch this drone shot.
00:35:56.000 It's pretty cool.
00:35:58.000 And to kind of get these interesting images, you'll see the sun will go...
00:36:03.000 Now, what do you strap on the drone?
00:36:05.000 Is it built in with cameras?
00:36:06.000 It's got a camera on it.
00:36:07.000 So this is just not even super...
00:36:10.000 Look, watch the sun disappear.
00:36:13.000 And then the music that's playing is music that I made in the van.
00:36:16.000 It's a score.
00:36:17.000 You can play the audio if you want.
00:36:18.000 It's my music.
00:36:19.000 But it's a score.
00:36:20.000 I'm doing this sort of ambient score.
00:36:23.000 What kind of drugs are you getting?
00:36:25.000 You know, nothing too crazy.
00:36:30.000 So I see the sun pops up.
00:36:32.000 This is like ocean music.
00:36:33.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:36:34.000 This is like music that I expect to hear about, like a documentary on whales.
00:36:38.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:36:39.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:36:39.000 It's kind of a Brian Eno influence type of vibe.
00:36:43.000 Are you doing a video whenever you feel like it?
00:36:46.000 Are you doing them on a schedule?
00:36:48.000 I kind of just am always shooting stuff and then I'll edit and sometimes I'll...
00:36:52.000 The first month I didn't post as much because honestly I was just trying to figure out how to survive out there.
00:37:00.000 And now I've got a good system.
00:37:02.000 So I think the videos are going to start coming a little more fast and furious now.
00:37:05.000 Was there a moment where you were like, what the fuck am I doing?
00:37:07.000 I need to go back to LA. Every day.
00:37:11.000 Every day.
00:37:12.000 Every single day I get up and say that.
00:37:14.000 For real.
00:37:14.000 And I'm not even exaggerating.
00:37:15.000 Every day I get up and go, what the fuck am I doing?
00:37:18.000 But you keep going.
00:37:19.000 Yeah, because I have some things on the agenda that I want to accomplish in the next month in Texas when I leave here.
00:37:26.000 First of all, I don't know where I'm sleeping tonight.
00:37:28.000 I don't know where I'm going tonight.
00:37:29.000 But I have a few little interesting tricks for that, too.
00:37:35.000 But if I ever get stuck in a bind where I've been driving and I haven't found a nice place like that, I'll go to just a straight-up truck stop.
00:37:44.000 And I'll wedge in between a bunch of 18-wheelers, crash, get up in the morning, and start finding my destination.
00:37:52.000 What I've been finding is I get on this sort of pattern where I'll go...
00:38:00.000 A couple of days where I don't find a place like that.
00:38:03.000 But every three or four days I'll find a place kind of at that level of beauty.
00:38:07.000 And then once I'm there, I'll stay there for four or five days and just really get into it.
00:38:13.000 I'll shoot a lot of video.
00:38:15.000 I'll edit and I'll create some music and I'll create some things.
00:38:18.000 And then when I get back to cell service, I'll post and then I go look for the next spot.
00:38:23.000 My agenda when I leave here today is I want to go around Texas and go find some ghost towns.
00:38:32.000 Ghost towns?
00:38:33.000 Lots of ghost towns in Texas.
00:38:34.000 Really?
00:38:35.000 Apparently there's 500 of them.
00:38:37.000 500 ghost towns?
00:38:39.000 Back in the silver mining and gold mining days when they built the railroads, first of all, the silver would dry up, the town would dry up.
00:38:47.000 So there's these towns that are just You know, dilapidated, broken-down towns in the middle of the...
00:38:53.000 Didn't Kim Basinger buy one of those?
00:38:55.000 She did, yeah.
00:38:56.000 She did, right?
00:38:57.000 In Georgia, right?
00:38:58.000 I think so, yeah.
00:38:59.000 She must have been losing her marbles.
00:39:02.000 Why would she buy a ghost town?
00:39:04.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:39:05.000 But, you know, there's a real sort of beauty to it because...
00:39:09.000 So there's two things I've been doing that I found I really enjoy.
00:39:12.000 And they're new things, so I can't speak to them like with total detail.
00:39:16.000 But, you know, next time I talk to you, I'm going to have a lot more information about this.
00:39:20.000 The other thing is native ruins.
00:39:26.000 There is an unbelievable amount of Native American ruins out there in the desert of New Mexico.
00:39:31.000 The reason I was in the Gila National Forest, I went to the cliff dwellings that were built by...
00:39:39.000 The Anastasi?
00:39:41.000 The Anastasia is in Colorado, but it looks just like that.
00:39:46.000 Same kind of thing?
00:39:46.000 It's exactly like that.
00:39:48.000 Are they the Navajo, then?
00:39:50.000 The Magolan Indians, they were called.
00:39:54.000 In 1280, they built this.
00:39:56.000 Whoa!
00:39:57.000 And so, that video, there's a clip of that.
00:40:00.000 1280?
00:40:01.000 Yeah, there's a clip of that in the Arizona one.
00:40:02.000 There's a clip of that.
00:40:03.000 And these are, first of all, very remote.
00:40:08.000 That was right actually where we saw the javelina.
00:40:10.000 It was right after I went there.
00:40:12.000 There are 50 rooms in this thing, built out of stone, up on a cliff.
00:40:18.000 They've created it, but it was built in 1280. And then not discovered by...
00:40:25.000 The park ranger told me this last week.
00:40:29.000 Yeah, right here.
00:40:29.000 Wow.
00:40:30.000 That's just sitting there.
00:40:31.000 Not discovered until when?
00:40:32.000 Not discovered until 1874. Holy shit.
00:40:35.000 Right?
00:40:36.000 1874. And so they discovered this...
00:40:40.000 And it wasn't until a few years later that Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, made it a national monument.
00:40:45.000 So in the period between 1874 and I think 1907, it got looted a bit.
00:40:50.000 When they found it, it was full of pottery, it was full of all this artifacts and stuff.
00:40:54.000 That got looted, that's gone.
00:40:56.000 But there's some things in there that were really interesting that they did discover, like they discovered a macaw feather.
00:41:02.000 This is a pretty beautiful place.
00:41:04.000 This is wild.
00:41:04.000 Yeah.
00:41:05.000 And this is all drone footage, right?
00:41:08.000 No, this is me shooting with my handheld camera.
00:41:10.000 So you're allowed to walk around up there?
00:41:12.000 Yeah.
00:41:12.000 So they have a nice...
00:41:14.000 It's really set up nice.
00:41:16.000 You drive in on a nice paved road and then there's a National Park...
00:41:21.000 State Park or National Park?
00:41:25.000 It's the Gila National Forest facility there.
00:41:30.000 National Park facility, I believe.
00:41:32.000 And there's some rangers there and some people with knowledge of the history.
00:41:37.000 And then they have a nice maintained path that walks up.
00:41:42.000 Were there people up there looking at it with you?
00:41:44.000 There was, on that day, I saw the sun was kind of going down there and there were two other people.
00:41:50.000 That's it.
00:41:51.000 And they walked up ahead.
00:41:52.000 I mean, yeah.
00:41:52.000 National Monument, yeah.
00:41:53.000 Gila cliff drawings.
00:41:55.000 Yeah.
00:41:55.000 In the Gila Wilderness.
00:41:56.000 The Gila Wilderness is where they have some of the best elk hunting in the world.
00:41:59.000 Yeah, there was a lot of hunters out, and I saw some elk.
00:42:04.000 Did you hear them screaming?
00:42:06.000 I did not, but they were...
00:42:11.000 The thing that I noticed about the elk, which just the one time I saw them, was they were...
00:42:16.000 I was driving, so I was driving a...
00:42:22.000 I'm not taking any interstates.
00:42:25.000 I never take an interstate.
00:42:27.000 All the way from LA, the whole way to here.
00:42:29.000 I maybe was on the 10 for like maybe a couple of miles just to get from one highway to another.
00:42:35.000 So you take the smaller highways and then you see like these towns, these places that You know, went away when the railway was built somewhere else, or when they put the interstate somewhere else, the town dried up, and then there's these towns that are just kind of half alive and fledgling towns,
00:42:53.000 and there's some real beauty there to it, right?
00:42:55.000 So, you know, from a photography standpoint, you know, like there's a lot of nice architecture and things that is just really interesting.
00:43:03.000 So you consciously made a decision in the beginning of this journey to not take any interstates?
00:43:07.000 Yeah.
00:43:07.000 Because I want to go find these places that are off the beaten track and photograph them, really.
00:43:14.000 But so I was coming around a corner and there was a herd of elk.
00:43:18.000 And They were sort of in the distance and they were running, like playing with each other.
00:43:24.000 Have you ever seen that?
00:43:25.000 One was running and then they were running around.
00:43:28.000 How long ago was this?
00:43:28.000 How long ago was this?
00:43:29.000 Oh, like seven days ago or something?
00:43:32.000 Oh, okay.
00:43:33.000 So it wouldn't be the rut.
00:43:35.000 The rut is in September.
00:43:37.000 Yeah, they were running.
00:43:38.000 Sometimes they late rut in October.
00:43:40.000 Yeah.
00:43:41.000 So one was running, and I thought they were horses for sure, because I just thought, well, I've never seen them.
00:43:45.000 And it was fast, really fast.
00:43:47.000 Like across this, it was a sort of farmer's field.
00:43:50.000 And they're playing with each other?
00:43:51.000 Yeah.
00:43:51.000 Yeah, and then the car pulled up.
00:43:53.000 I pulled up my car and they immediately stopped and looked at me and walked off into the woods.
00:43:57.000 But yeah, it's beautiful out there, man.
00:44:01.000 But yeah, ghost towns.
00:44:02.000 That's where I'm going after this.
00:44:03.000 I'm going to go try to find some ghost towns and photograph those.
00:44:07.000 And I'm writing.
00:44:08.000 I write in the van.
00:44:10.000 I'm working on things that I'm working on.
00:44:14.000 I'm not just...
00:44:16.000 Completely off the grid.
00:44:17.000 I mean, I'm writing an animated series right now that I'm sort of working on, so I'm on my computer sometimes.
00:44:23.000 An animated series?
00:44:24.000 Yeah, there's this...
00:44:25.000 I'm working with this great company out of Ottawa, my hometown, called Mercury Filmworks, and they actually animate Mickey Mouse and all sorts of stuff for Disney, the big animated company, and so I'm writing a fun show about...
00:44:42.000 A crazy kid who likes pulling pranks.
00:44:45.000 Oh, about you?
00:44:47.000 Yes.
00:44:47.000 It's called Little Tommy Green.
00:44:49.000 Oh, boy.
00:44:50.000 How on the nose is that?
00:44:52.000 It's like a Dennis the Menace, you know?
00:44:53.000 But he goes out and pulls pranks on his parents and does a lot of the kinds of things I did.
00:44:57.000 But, you know, so I'm writing that and just kind of...
00:45:02.000 You know, it's interesting.
00:45:03.000 I found that, like, I can kind of do everything that I would do at home.
00:45:13.000 You seem like you're in a good place.
00:45:16.000 It seems like it's been tricky, but I'm getting the impression that you're really enjoying this.
00:45:24.000 I am, yeah.
00:45:24.000 Is this going to extend?
00:45:26.000 How long are you going to do this for?
00:45:28.000 This is a very good question.
00:45:31.000 Is this your new life?
00:45:32.000 It's possible.
00:45:33.000 Really?
00:45:34.000 I'm not selling my house or anything.
00:45:35.000 I think what I'll do is, I mean, I bought the van.
00:45:39.000 I didn't rent it for a quick one-off trip, you know, and I've put a lot of time into it and I am enjoying it.
00:45:46.000 And one thing is I've always loved photography.
00:45:49.000 I'm bringing a Leica film camera as well, so I'm shooting a lot of still photography as well.
00:45:55.000 And it's nice to have something to take a picture of.
00:45:58.000 It's nice to go somewhere interesting.
00:46:00.000 So I'm enjoying that.
00:46:02.000 But I think that what I'll probably do is when life gets back to normal, Whenever the fuck that is, right?
00:46:11.000 Yeah, what is normal anymore.
00:46:14.000 Part of my plan is to, you know, when I start touring again, doing stand-up again, I think I might take a few less airplanes in the future and be in the van a little bit more.
00:46:25.000 So like say if you have a gig, if you decided to stand up in Utah, you might drive there.
00:46:28.000 I'm thinking I might start to talk to, you know, the way I book it about sort of doing more of a road trip type run of like in a straight line as opposed to go, oh, I'm in, you know, Seattle this week and Boston next week.
00:46:41.000 Right, we have to fly around.
00:46:41.000 Maybe do an East Coast run or do...
00:46:42.000 Yeah, that's smart.
00:46:44.000 So I'm thinking it might be something that I do.
00:46:46.000 I mean, I'm not moving into my van full time, but I definitely do a lot of...
00:46:51.000 But you're moving in that direction, it seems like.
00:46:53.000 Look, it's interesting what you say, I believe, is true because...
00:46:58.000 Yeah, get in there, fella.
00:47:02.000 By the way, this is the way I make coffee, too.
00:47:04.000 I make coffee with this thing.
00:47:06.000 This is not an endorsement or anything, but it's a pretty cool product.
00:47:09.000 It's called a Jetboil.
00:47:10.000 Yeah, I use Jetboils.
00:47:12.000 Those are great, huh?
00:47:13.000 Yeah, they're great for hunting.
00:47:14.000 Yeah, because I don't want to use my battery.
00:47:16.000 So I boil up my water, and then I make my coffee, and then I pour it into a thermos.
00:47:22.000 I put my coffee all day, and my hot coffee in the thermos all day.
00:47:25.000 It's amazing that it stays hot.
00:47:27.000 And I was thinking about that.
00:47:28.000 Modern technology.
00:47:29.000 Thinking about that exact thing, I'm going, has thermos technology changed?
00:47:33.000 Oh, yeah.
00:47:34.000 Since in Canada, I was a kid, you'd take a thermos to hockey because we play outside on outdoor rinks, and you bring a thermos of hot chocolate.
00:47:42.000 We didn't...
00:47:43.000 Yeah, well, when I was a kid, we used to ice fish.
00:47:45.000 We used to bring hot coffee out onto the lake.
00:47:48.000 I never did much of that.
00:47:50.000 It's fun.
00:47:52.000 It's not as fun as regular fishing, but when you're living in a place like Boston...
00:47:56.000 Were you in the hut on the...
00:47:58.000 No.
00:47:58.000 We were just out there.
00:48:00.000 What were you fishing for?
00:48:01.000 Pike or...
00:48:02.000 Trout, usually.
00:48:03.000 Trout.
00:48:04.000 Yeah.
00:48:04.000 Pike, too, though.
00:48:05.000 Yeah, pike are pretty active in cold weather.
00:48:08.000 You do much fishing these days?
00:48:09.000 I do when I can.
00:48:12.000 Unfortunately, ever since I moved to Austin, it's been kind of playing catch-up and getting everything set up.
00:48:18.000 I'm still not totally moved.
00:48:20.000 I mean, I'm moved in, but I'm not totally settled in.
00:48:23.000 But I'm pretty close.
00:48:24.000 Yeah.
00:48:25.000 Didn't catch much trout growing up.
00:48:27.000 Mostly largemouth bass and pike was what I would fish for.
00:48:31.000 But yeah, thermos technology, I don't know if it's changed, but it's amazing.
00:48:35.000 Oh yeah, Yeti flipped the fucking game on its head.
00:48:37.000 Really?
00:48:38.000 Yeah, Yeti coolers are amazing.
00:48:39.000 I have a Yeti cooler that I take when I hunt and you can put...
00:48:43.000 Ice in that Yeti cooler in the summer and seven days later you'll have ice.
00:48:47.000 It's bananas.
00:48:49.000 They're crazy.
00:48:49.000 I took a video that I put on my Instagram of we shot deer in Hawaii.
00:48:55.000 We shot Axis deer in Hawaii.
00:48:58.000 They put the thing in the cargo.
00:49:01.000 You seal up the Yeti and got it all the way back to LA. Left it outside overnight.
00:49:06.000 Then the next day at noon, I opened it up and it was filled with ice.
00:49:11.000 Like rock solid ice.
00:49:13.000 It's crazy how good those things are.
00:49:15.000 That's better than...
00:49:16.000 Insulate.
00:49:16.000 That's better than...
00:49:17.000 I just have a regular thermos for my coffee, but that's pretty amazing.
00:49:21.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:49:21.000 I don't know how...
00:49:22.000 The coolers are way better.
00:49:23.000 The thermoses are better.
00:49:25.000 Those...
00:49:26.000 You know, Yeti makes those tumblers.
00:49:27.000 They'll keep your coffee hot, like, literally all day.
00:49:30.000 I don't know what they're doing.
00:49:31.000 Some voodoo, but it's fucking amazing.
00:49:33.000 I loved the sock foot walk when you were with Steve.
00:49:40.000 Yeah.
00:49:40.000 Oh, yeah, when you're sneaking up on deer, you've got to take your shoes off.
00:49:43.000 Is that something that you've done before?
00:49:44.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:49:45.000 My friend Remy Warren calls it an SOS, a shoes-off situation.
00:49:49.000 Like when you're closing in on, particularly on mule deer.
00:49:54.000 Mule deer are very sensitive to predators.
00:49:56.000 Elk are not nearly as sensitive.
00:49:58.000 Elk hear a lot of noise.
00:50:00.000 Elk are a big animal.
00:50:01.000 And, you know, they're worried about mountain lions and bears and stuff like that.
00:50:05.000 But...
00:50:06.000 You know, they're a little less worried than the smaller animals are.
00:50:10.000 So mule deer are particularly worried.
00:50:12.000 They're very jumpy.
00:50:14.000 They're always like listening around and their ears are twisting and if you snap a branch, they'll pop up and start running.
00:50:23.000 Obviously, that was a fun day with you and Steve out there, but that was in Nevada, wasn't it?
00:50:29.000 Yeah, that was in the Nevada high country where we were hunting mule deer.
00:50:32.000 We struck out, but I got real close a couple times to deer, just didn't really get a shot.
00:50:38.000 Is it kind of sort of nice sometimes when they get away?
00:50:42.000 It is because, well, it's a luxury because I'm living in a first world country and I have access to food and I'm not starving.
00:50:51.000 So it's a luxury that I can enjoy the fact that they got away.
00:50:55.000 Because this is something that I've been grappling with a little bit because, like I said, I'm not a hunter, but now I am hunting, but I haven't Actually seen anything, so I'm just looking.
00:51:05.000 When I'm saying I'm hunting, I'm looking for something.
00:51:08.000 You're looking for birds, right?
00:51:09.000 And in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, grouse or quail, I could probably wrap my head around that.
00:51:16.000 Yeah, because first of all, you know...
00:51:19.000 I'm eating raw onions and canned beans out there.
00:51:23.000 I'm not cooking onions.
00:51:25.000 That would be pretty tasty.
00:51:26.000 A nice chicken out there.
00:51:28.000 A nice wild chicken.
00:51:30.000 But the thing is, I also kind of know I'm never going to find one because I don't know what I'm doing.
00:51:35.000 I think you really need dogs that are trained to roast the birds out.
00:51:39.000 Not necessarily.
00:51:42.000 There's a lot of birds that you can get if you just...
00:51:44.000 So I've done some research.
00:51:45.000 Okay, so I went to this was top of a mountain.
00:51:52.000 Where was this?
00:51:53.000 This was on the road for a while, but it was, you know, I know the dusty grouse is native to this certain elevation in the Weisach Plateau.
00:52:07.000 That's where I was.
00:52:08.000 The Weisach Plateau in Utah.
00:52:10.000 And I went up there.
00:52:12.000 I don't think that's how you say it.
00:52:14.000 Wasatch or?
00:52:14.000 I think that's it, yeah.
00:52:15.000 Yeah, I just read the sign when I drove up the road.
00:52:19.000 Beautiful country though, huh?
00:52:21.000 Oh my god, yeah.
00:52:21.000 And they're in the Aspens.
00:52:24.000 But there was a moment where I was walking through the Aspens looking for the dusty grouse.
00:52:34.000 You know, didn't see one, and then there were three beautiful deer standing there, like, you know, as far as Jamie away, looking at me, standing there with my shotgun, looking at him.
00:52:46.000 I'm just like, I don't know what I'd do with you guys, but I am pretty hungry right now, but I'll let you guys go.
00:52:52.000 I'm going to keep looking for my bird.
00:52:54.000 But, so, I don't know.
00:52:55.000 I don't know that I would ever even really...
00:52:58.000 Want to shoot a mammal?
00:52:59.000 Yeah.
00:52:59.000 A mammal for some reason.
00:53:00.000 Yeah, I don't know if I would.
00:53:01.000 But you eat them.
00:53:02.000 Yeah, no, I know.
00:53:03.000 And I've heard you talk about this and I agree with it, too.
00:53:05.000 But I just don't know if I'd be able to do it.
00:53:08.000 I don't know.
00:53:09.000 You would definitely be able to do it if you had to for food.
00:53:12.000 Yeah.
00:53:13.000 And I'm sure you would develop a different sort of relationship with the animal.
00:53:17.000 You would think that you're very appreciative of them, but you'll develop this real predator-prey relationship with animals if you need to survive.
00:53:30.000 I've talked about this many times, but unfortunately I'm going to talk about it again.
00:53:34.000 There's a fantastic series that Vice Guide to Travel did.
00:53:38.000 Back in the day, it's quite a few years old, at least eight years old, I think.
00:53:42.000 It's called Heinmo's Arctic Adventure.
00:53:46.000 And it's a guy, I think his name is Heinmo Kuth.
00:53:50.000 I think that's his last name.
00:53:52.000 And he lives up in the middle of nowhere in Alaska.
00:53:56.000 And he actually has...
00:53:58.000 A license to be in this particular area or a permit to be in this particular area that no one else can ever have a house in there again.
00:54:06.000 He's like grandfathered in.
00:54:08.000 And all this guy does is go out and subsistence hunt.
00:54:13.000 So he goes out and hunts caribou.
00:54:15.000 He goes out and he fishes.
00:54:16.000 And that's all he does.
00:54:18.000 That's his whole life.
00:54:19.000 And this guy has this incredible connection to life and to...
00:54:25.000 To his food.
00:54:26.000 But he's also a very articulate, intelligent man.
00:54:29.000 So when he talks about it, he's able to talk about it in a way.
00:54:34.000 This is the guy right here.
00:54:35.000 Wow.
00:54:36.000 So he's got all of his food and it's frozen.
00:54:38.000 See, that's his cabin.
00:54:39.000 That's where he lives.
00:54:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:54:41.000 And he's been out there since, I think, since the 70s.
00:54:44.000 Man.
00:54:45.000 Is this where I'm headed?
00:54:46.000 Yeah, I think so.
00:54:48.000 Super fucking healthy and really robust, this guy.
00:54:52.000 Didn't find out about 9-11 until quite a while afterwards.
00:54:56.000 And I think he found out from a photograph.
00:54:58.000 Oh my gosh.
00:54:59.000 Yeah, and he lives up there with his wife.
00:55:04.000 It's like one of those Japanese soldiers they found in the woods.
00:55:06.000 Sort of.
00:55:07.000 In the 60s, you know?
00:55:08.000 Right.
00:55:08.000 They still thought the war was going on.
00:55:10.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:55:11.000 But this guy, he's got a really interesting way of describing what he thinks is great about this life.
00:55:18.000 Wow.
00:55:19.000 Wait, where do I find this?
00:55:20.000 This is amazing.
00:55:21.000 It's Vice Guided Travel.
00:55:22.000 Oh, wow.
00:55:23.000 Yeah, there it is.
00:55:24.000 Surviving Alone in Alaska.
00:55:25.000 Wow.
00:55:29.000 That's how you say it.
00:55:31.000 K-O-R-T-H. Wow.
00:55:33.000 Yeah, I watched that show Alone, actually, which I loved.
00:55:36.000 Have you ever watched that show?
00:55:37.000 Yes.
00:55:37.000 That show was amazing.
00:55:39.000 So that was something I was getting in my head.
00:55:42.000 I don't know if it's the latest season, but the one guy who got the moose.
00:55:45.000 Jordan Jonas, right?
00:55:46.000 That guy.
00:55:47.000 That's the guy who's been on the podcast.
00:55:48.000 Yeah.
00:55:49.000 Yeah, and he, like, made a fishing net out of rope, and that was incredible.
00:55:54.000 But, no, it's just something amazing about it, for sure.
00:55:57.000 But, so, yeah, yeah, it's...
00:55:59.000 And, by the way, like, first of all, I believe I said congratulations already off-camera, but how cool is this, man?
00:56:08.000 Thank you.
00:56:09.000 Congratulations.
00:56:09.000 Thanks, buddy.
00:56:10.000 I, you know, I'm super...
00:56:15.000 It doesn't make sense to say proud of you because, I mean, what the fuck does that mean?
00:56:17.000 But, you know, like, I am, though.
00:56:19.000 I mean, like, I just...
00:56:19.000 I think it's so cool.
00:56:20.000 I sent you a text right after you announced your Spotify deal.
00:56:24.000 I was just thinking, like, nobody has ever done that before.
00:56:28.000 You know, like, in the history of all broadcasting.
00:56:31.000 You know, I said, you know, Johnny Carson was the guy who we all looked up to back in the day.
00:56:36.000 Had everybody watching him.
00:56:38.000 It was a different world.
00:56:39.000 Television was...
00:56:40.000 You know, three networks, everybody watched Johnny.
00:56:44.000 He was a guy who became this very successful person off of traditional media.
00:56:51.000 But to do what you've done is just so incredible.
00:56:55.000 And I just, congratulations.
00:56:57.000 It's definitely something that, you know, I, you know, we talked about this before, but I always thought, man, you could do that.
00:57:04.000 You could do that.
00:57:05.000 You could be the biggest show.
00:57:07.000 And not be on network TV. I always believed that.
00:57:12.000 And thank you for proving it.
00:57:15.000 Because it's so cool.
00:57:17.000 And I love the studio, by the way.
00:57:18.000 Well, thank you for being a pioneer, man.
00:57:21.000 Because you gave me some of the...
00:57:22.000 I mean, I'm a real pioneer now.
00:57:23.000 I'm living in a log...
00:57:25.000 Chopping wood for dinner.
00:57:27.000 But you were a pioneer of this because you gave me the seeds of the earliest ideas about doing a podcast.
00:57:33.000 Well, you've been very kind when you've said these things to me over the years and last time.
00:57:37.000 But what I find amazing about it that I never was able to figure out...
00:57:41.000 I was into the technology and I was never really able to figure out what is so amazing.
00:57:47.000 What I've watched you figure out is...
00:57:50.000 You've really made a show that really captures the interest of people.
00:57:56.000 You know, a huge population of people love what you guys talk about on the show, and that's what's really cool, you know?
00:58:03.000 I mean, how did you determine that?
00:58:06.000 Like, you know, I just watched your interview with Kanye.
00:58:09.000 I just watched your interview with Alex Jones, and I'm just seeing all these subjects that I see swirling around, and I'm going, well, that's the kind of stuff that, like, When I go down a rabbit hole on the internet, I want to learn about these things.
00:58:26.000 Was there a moment where you realized, oh wait, if I talk about X, Y, or Z, that's really capturing people's attention?
00:58:35.000 Or was it just what you were interested in?
00:58:37.000 Never for a second.
00:58:39.000 Never for a second have I said, this is going to capture people's interest.
00:58:42.000 Never.
00:58:43.000 Everything has been like, ooh, I want to talk to that guy.
00:58:46.000 Oh, that guy said he was in a Navy jet and he was tracking a UFO, Commander David Fravor.
00:58:54.000 Ooh, I want to talk to him.
00:58:55.000 Oh, Bob Lazar said he worked on alien technology in Area S4. Oh, I want to talk to him.
00:59:01.000 Oh, this guy said he saw Bigfoot, or that guy says he's working on life extension and figuring out how to lengthen your telomeres, or this guy knows how to, you know, whatever it is.
00:59:11.000 They're figuring out the age of the universe, or people that are writing books, or people that are former military people, or people that are whatever they are.
00:59:22.000 If I find them interesting, I like people.
00:59:25.000 I'm a big fan of people.
00:59:27.000 I like talking to all kinds of different people.
00:59:29.000 I like the way their brain thinks.
00:59:31.000 I like comparing the way people's brain thinks.
00:59:34.000 I like sort of like just seeing how they view the world.
00:59:38.000 Because the way you view the world is the way you personally view the world.
00:59:42.000 But it's very much influenced by the things that you've found attractive about the way the other people that you've run into see things.
00:59:51.000 Like we are not...
00:59:53.000 We're good to go.
01:00:13.000 It makes a big impact on the amount of stress you have and how you feel.
01:00:17.000 I feel so much better here, just right away.
01:00:21.000 Disconnected from Hollywood, disconnected from traditional forms of show business, but also the people here.
01:00:28.000 The people here are different.
01:00:30.000 They're more relaxed.
01:00:31.000 They're regular people.
01:00:33.000 Chappelle and I were having a conversation about this last night, and we were talking about how people here in Austin, they're real people.
01:00:42.000 They're not people that are trying to get famous and people that are trying to get on television shows and do movies, and there's a weirdness to that life.
01:00:51.000 And some of the people that do that...
01:00:54.000 We're good to go.
01:01:12.000 But that's rare.
01:01:13.000 Most of the people that want that life, they're all kind of wacky and fucked up.
01:01:17.000 And you're in their world with their energy, and they infect all the people around them.
01:01:23.000 They infect people that are in the service industry, managers, agents.
01:01:28.000 There's this fucking hive of weirdness.
01:01:30.000 Out here, there's none of that.
01:01:31.000 There's none of that.
01:01:32.000 And almost immediately, I felt a lowering of stress level.
01:01:37.000 Almost immediately.
01:01:38.000 And then the people that you deal with, whether it's someone who's working at the counter at Walgreens or a restaurant, they're so nice.
01:01:46.000 They're so friendly.
01:01:48.000 And so because early on in your show, you had the confidence to just do your own thing, right?
01:01:56.000 You created your own thing.
01:01:57.000 You didn't have these sort of tentacles coming down telling you, oh, you can't interview that person.
01:02:02.000 That allowed you to just talk to the people that you found interesting and You happen to be interested in interesting shit?
01:02:09.000 Yeah, but in the beginning, nobody wanted anything to do with it.
01:02:12.000 That's what's hilarious.
01:02:13.000 Like, my agent, in the beginning, didn't want to have anything to do with this podcast.
01:02:17.000 They were like, what are you wasting your time?
01:02:20.000 Because back then, like, 2,000 people were watching or listening.
01:02:24.000 Nobody was listening.
01:02:25.000 Yeah, I remember with mine, I was trying to tell people, hey, this is going to be a thing.
01:02:28.000 I know.
01:02:28.000 They're like, get the fuck out of here.
01:02:30.000 We're busy with movies, kid.
01:02:32.000 They're busy.
01:02:33.000 So luckily, in the beginning, when I maybe could have used a little help getting guests or doing things or getting advertisement or something like that, they didn't get involved.
01:02:43.000 Because if somebody got involved, they would have definitely told me to not do things that have turned out to be very successful.
01:02:49.000 Like, I'm sure they would have told me to not interview controversial people or not interview people that, you know, you're going to get criticized for specific topics or, you know, specific people that are writing books that may, you know, ruffle a bunch of people's feathers.
01:03:03.000 And I want to know what they think.
01:03:04.000 I want to know why they think the way they think.
01:03:06.000 I want to ask them questions.
01:03:07.000 Yeah.
01:03:07.000 And there's a lot of people that don't think you should do that.
01:03:10.000 And they'll be the gatekeepers to the information that you take in and the conversations that you have and you distribute.
01:03:19.000 And it's not good.
01:03:22.000 If you talk to someone and it was a mistake, well, now you know.
01:03:25.000 But at least you know.
01:03:26.000 You talk to them.
01:03:28.000 If someone tells you it's a mistake to talk to someone but you want to talk to them...
01:03:32.000 And then you start thinking, oh, let me run it by Mike and the team.
01:03:36.000 And then the team will sit around and think about their mortgage.
01:03:39.000 They sit around and think about whether or not you could get in trouble.
01:03:42.000 And that could eventually lead to them having a decrease in their income.
01:03:47.000 And then they start to fucking...
01:03:48.000 Play it safe.
01:03:50.000 I've seen that, man.
01:03:51.000 I've seen that with stand-ups.
01:03:53.000 I've seen that with people.
01:03:54.000 There's people that have podcasts, and they have a bunch of people that are there at the studio telling them to talk about different things, telling them to pick different subjects, telling them, let's move on.
01:04:07.000 I've seen that.
01:04:08.000 I've seen in the middle of a podcast, someone say, let's move on.
01:04:12.000 You guys are on this subject.
01:04:13.000 Let's move on.
01:04:14.000 Who the fuck are you?
01:04:15.000 Let's move on.
01:04:17.000 Some guy standing on the outside that gets some sneaky paycheck that he doesn't really deserve is now saying, let's move on.
01:04:25.000 Holding a clipboard as if it, like, what are you doing?
01:04:28.000 Get the fuck out of here.
01:04:30.000 It's two people talking.
01:04:31.000 And if they decide to move on, they'll move on.
01:04:35.000 But people that, like, bring up this.
01:04:38.000 Bring up that.
01:04:39.000 Like, bring up this.
01:04:40.000 Who are you?
01:04:41.000 Why are you here?
01:04:42.000 But that's what they do.
01:04:43.000 If you've ever gone to, like, I went to, I did, what's that guy's name, the sports guy?
01:04:49.000 Bill Simmons.
01:04:50.000 I did his show on HBO. He's a great guy.
01:04:53.000 Really interesting guy, and I love the way he does his podcast, but I did his HBO show, dude, and you're surrounded by people.
01:05:01.000 It's me and him sitting in the booth just like this, but there's fucking people there, and there's people there, and there's people walking around the set.
01:05:07.000 It's distracting, and there's people standing around.
01:05:09.000 They got notes and clipboards, and there's camera people everywhere, and you're like, what?
01:05:14.000 This is not necessary.
01:05:15.000 You have 100 people here, or whatever.
01:05:18.000 20. You have 20 people here.
01:05:20.000 You need one.
01:05:21.000 You need one person.
01:05:22.000 And then managing all of those people becomes a bigger priority than actually the content.
01:05:26.000 And then you have inter-office politics take place.
01:05:30.000 You have relationships with people.
01:05:32.000 I mean, I don't mean relationships like boy-girl, boy-boy, girl-girl.
01:05:36.000 I mean like friends and weirdness.
01:05:40.000 Egos.
01:05:41.000 Egos.
01:05:41.000 The bosses have got ego and then they're mad at the talent because the talent is getting more attention than they are.
01:05:48.000 Blah!
01:05:48.000 Blah!
01:05:49.000 Yeah.
01:05:49.000 No one would have ever let me do this show.
01:05:52.000 They would have never.
01:05:53.000 Yeah.
01:05:53.000 No one would have ever let me.
01:05:54.000 Yeah.
01:05:54.000 And it's not by design that I did it this way.
01:05:57.000 It's not like I see what they don't see and I'm going to do this.
01:06:00.000 It's like, I didn't want to listen.
01:06:02.000 It's like, get out of here.
01:06:03.000 Fuck off.
01:06:04.000 I'm going to do what I want to do.
01:06:05.000 You had that confidence and just straight up sort of...
01:06:12.000 You didn't give a fuck, and you just did it.
01:06:14.000 Where do you think that came from?
01:06:15.000 Fear factor money.
01:06:17.000 Right.
01:06:18.000 That helped.
01:06:19.000 I had a little bit of fear factor money in the bank, where I'm like, if this shit completely hits the fan, I can just sort of live off of that.
01:06:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:06:28.000 And also, I've never been very good with the whole boss, someone telling you what to do.
01:06:34.000 If I did that, if I was good with that, I would never become a stand-up.
01:06:37.000 I've never done most of the things that I've done, and I certainly would have...
01:06:41.000 No, thank you, I'm good.
01:06:42.000 I certainly would have never been able to do the podcast this way.
01:06:46.000 If I brought people aboard, and there was a certain point in time where people...
01:06:50.000 We were talking about it before the show, that people did want to come on board.
01:06:53.000 I've had offers where people wanted to buy half the podcast.
01:06:58.000 Pretty generous amounts of money.
01:07:00.000 I was like, I don't think this is wise.
01:07:03.000 This is not wise.
01:07:04.000 This is going to get weird.
01:07:05.000 Spotify was the first offer where they came around and said, we don't want you to do anything different.
01:07:09.000 We just want to license the show.
01:07:11.000 How do you decide what you're going to ask people?
01:07:13.000 You just go on with the flow?
01:07:14.000 Do you research on stuff?
01:07:15.000 Because I really loved some of the questions you asked Kanye.
01:07:18.000 I'm trying to remember what they were, but I mean, do you sort of plan it in advance, or are you kind of just sort of...
01:07:24.000 Well, with Kanye, we had talked about doing a podcast for a long time, but I was worried that he was going to come off in a negative way.
01:07:30.000 I remember your first question was, why do you want to do this, right?
01:07:34.000 That was when he was running for president.
01:07:35.000 Yeah, I thought it was such a great question, because it's like, you know...
01:07:39.000 Why do you want to run for president?
01:07:41.000 Well, everybody would ask that question.
01:07:42.000 Yeah, but it was just right into it.
01:07:44.000 It was just great, you know?
01:07:44.000 Well, I'm a fan of his music.
01:07:46.000 I've always been a fan of his music.
01:07:47.000 And I think that the way he communicates, his sort of manic style of thinking and constantly creating and doing things, It's why he's so successful.
01:07:58.000 This stream of consciousness that he has is also why he's so prolific as an artist.
01:08:04.000 All of his albums are good.
01:08:06.000 He doesn't have a dud.
01:08:08.000 You go from one album to the next and they're all...
01:08:11.000 He's got this stream of creative ideas that are constantly running through his head.
01:08:16.000 And he talks sometimes in these streams where they don't end.
01:08:20.000 He goes from one subject to the next subject.
01:08:22.000 And so...
01:08:23.000 I was curious as to how I was going to talk to him and I wanted to make sure that we can do it in a way where other people are going to appreciate there's a great value in the way he thinks.
01:08:36.000 And then if you get it in sound bites or you get it in some weird thing where he says something and people get mad at him and they boo him or something like that.
01:08:44.000 You're missing who he really is.
01:08:46.000 Who he really is is him all day.
01:08:49.000 It's not him in this 30-second chunk where you don't like what he said.
01:08:52.000 Guess what?
01:08:52.000 He probably doesn't like what he said either.
01:08:53.000 Okay?
01:08:54.000 He's fucking streaming.
01:08:55.000 He's just going.
01:08:56.000 He's running with these thoughts and ideas.
01:08:58.000 But that's also why he can boil those thoughts and ideas down, these amazing fucking songs.
01:09:05.000 You know?
01:09:05.000 Like, this is...
01:09:07.000 That's what I wanted to get out of him while we were talking.
01:09:11.000 Because people were trying to medicate him and people were trying to...
01:09:14.000 And I'm like, I don't...
01:09:16.000 If you have a choice between this medicated, overweight Kanye who doesn't get anything done or manic, crazy Kanye, he says wild shit.
01:09:27.000 You want manic, crazy Kanye.
01:09:29.000 Because manic, crazy Kanye is the one who makes amazing music.
01:09:31.000 And I've been around him.
01:09:33.000 He's a nice guy, man.
01:09:35.000 He's a really genuinely nice guy.
01:09:37.000 And when the cameras are off, same thing.
01:09:38.000 He's a nice guy with all the staff and everybody.
01:09:40.000 He's cool.
01:09:41.000 He's genuinely cool.
01:09:43.000 But whatever you want to call mental illness, That's the problem.
01:09:48.000 It's like, when you call it mental illness, well, you gotta give it medicine.
01:09:51.000 He's got mental illness, you gotta give him medicine.
01:09:53.000 Do you really?
01:09:54.000 Because that mental illness is making some pretty amazing shit.
01:09:58.000 Right.
01:09:58.000 Like, look at his fucking catalog!
01:10:01.000 Look at all the music he's made!
01:10:02.000 That's all because of mental illness?
01:10:04.000 No!
01:10:05.000 Whatever you call an illness is a particular style of thinking that he has that's sort of nonlinear, and it's wild, and it's all over the place, but it's also very focused.
01:10:15.000 I found in that interview, though, that I've seen him interviewed quite a bit, but that was one where everything he said made a lot of sense.
01:10:23.000 He's certainly done a lot of...
01:10:26.000 Put a lot of thought into a lot of the stuff he was talking about with everything from reorganizing the way civilization works.
01:10:32.000 I know, isn't that crazy?
01:10:33.000 It takes a little bit of thinking to come up with how to reorganize the entire way civilization works.
01:10:38.000 But that was one of the things that I thought was really good about the interviews.
01:10:42.000 You do get a chance to see, like, this is not just a crazy person who buys his own bullshit.
01:10:48.000 And by the way, when he's, like, the braggy stuff that he kind of does, talks about himself, First of all, he's being honest about where he is.
01:10:55.000 He's sort of reaffirming who he is.
01:10:58.000 But also, he jokes around.
01:11:00.000 He was joking around about it.
01:11:02.000 He was showing us this video that he had made for his wife, for his wife's birthday.
01:11:07.000 And it was really emotional.
01:11:08.000 It was very beautiful.
01:11:09.000 Because he made a hologram of her dad.
01:11:15.000 And he wrote the script for all this.
01:11:18.000 Oh, he did?
01:11:18.000 Wow.
01:11:18.000 Yeah, and he wrote the script for all the things that the hologram was telling her.
01:11:22.000 It's really intense.
01:11:23.000 And you can do that now.
01:11:25.000 They can take your voice.
01:11:27.000 And for you and I, it would be easy for them to do it because there's hours and hours and hours of us talking.
01:11:32.000 So they would take this voice.
01:11:33.000 God, can you imagine what they could do?
01:11:34.000 They already have.
01:11:36.000 They used me as an example for one of these companies in Canada.
01:11:41.000 They used me as an example for how well this deepfake technology works because there's 1,500 fucking plus podcasts in me that are three hours long.
01:11:52.000 So you take these sounds that come out of my mouth and then you can make me say anything.
01:11:58.000 Literally anything.
01:11:59.000 Because every noise that I'm capable of making, I've made.
01:12:02.000 Right?
01:12:03.000 So you use this catalog of sounds that my voice can make, and that's what he also did with that hologram.
01:12:10.000 Because, you know, Robert Kardashian, there's all the cases and all the different times he's been interviewed on television, there's a great catalog of his voice.
01:12:18.000 And you can have him speak to her.
01:12:21.000 Yeah.
01:12:21.000 But even in then, he has him say, you know, and you're genius, genius husband.
01:12:28.000 But he was laughing when he said it and showed it to us.
01:12:31.000 He was laughing.
01:12:32.000 He thought it was funny that he had Robert Kardashian call him a genius, amazing, genius husband.
01:12:39.000 Right.
01:12:40.000 He thought it was funny.
01:12:41.000 Like he's not just – it's not just ego.
01:12:45.000 It's not just crazy.
01:12:46.000 It's also – there's brilliance there.
01:12:48.000 He's a complicated person.
01:12:50.000 It's nice to hear that because like it's interesting how the media can sort of reframe a person, right?
01:12:59.000 They take away nuance.
01:13:00.000 Yeah.
01:13:01.000 People are nuanced, man.
01:13:03.000 People are really complicated.
01:13:04.000 You decide to decide that a person is this person because of one sentence they said one time or because of one thing that they did where they maybe wish they didn't or because of one concert they did where people booed them or whatever you pick about Kanye that people decide he's this.
01:13:21.000 People just love to put someone in a box and categorize them and just decide that they want to dismiss them.
01:13:27.000 And this is the problem with cancel culture, right?
01:13:29.000 It's like...
01:13:31.000 We have this idea of things where we want to boil them down to almost a tweet.
01:13:39.000 Things that are enormously complicated.
01:13:42.000 A man who's lived 40 plus years of his life and in that life has experienced heartbreak and sorrow and success and failure and friendship and betrayal and all these different things and all the creative passions that you've poured out into your work and they want to just Boil you down to a sentence or two.
01:14:03.000 And it's crazy.
01:14:05.000 It's crazy for the person doing that and trying to boil someone down.
01:14:10.000 It's crazy for people to read it and accept it.
01:14:12.000 It's so negative.
01:14:14.000 It's one of the most negative things about social media is that we want to categorize someone by individual tweets or individual statements.
01:14:24.000 People are fucking immensely complex.
01:14:27.000 Immensely complex.
01:14:29.000 And to deny that...
01:14:30.000 To deny that, it's very disingenuous.
01:14:34.000 It's dishonest.
01:14:35.000 It's bad for our understanding of us.
01:14:39.000 It's bad for our understanding of who we are personally as a human.
01:14:43.000 When someone decides to define you based on a sentence or call you, they go, Tom Green is just a bum-ba-bum-ba-bum.
01:14:51.000 And then you read it and you're like, oh shit, I am?
01:14:54.000 Like we were talking about comments.
01:14:55.000 And then you start to believe it.
01:14:56.000 Well, that's why the comments are negative.
01:14:58.000 You know, when you're reading comments, you're reading one person's typed out thing that's negative about you and you're saying like, oh, I can't help myself.
01:15:06.000 Yeah, that is all – there's a real issue with the way human beings are – Taking in other people's opinions.
01:15:17.000 It's not that there's anything wrong with taking in people's opinions, but people's opinions are supposed to be shared like this.
01:15:22.000 Like you and I are sharing opinions.
01:15:24.000 Like you tell me something and I tell you something and I say, did you mean this?
01:15:27.000 And you're like, no, no, I meant that.
01:15:29.000 And you're like, oh, okay.
01:15:30.000 Oh, so you think that.
01:15:32.000 And you're like, yeah.
01:15:33.000 And then we're like, oh.
01:15:34.000 Then we get each other.
01:15:35.000 We're talking.
01:15:36.000 But it's an exchange.
01:15:38.000 It's very rare that you can just nail something with a sentence or two.
01:15:42.000 And also, you're not limited by time, as in normal television.
01:15:46.000 There's, oh, we've got seven minutes before the commercial break, so we've got to get to this and this and this, and then you never really end up talking about anything.
01:15:52.000 That's been the best part about podcasting without a boss, is that no one has ever told me, like, it has to be 45 minutes long.
01:16:00.000 It has to be in here, and let's edit out the parts that weren't as good.
01:16:04.000 Let's chop this up and make that, like...
01:16:08.000 Why?
01:16:09.000 Yeah.
01:16:09.000 Why?
01:16:10.000 So are you going to go back to LA at all?
01:16:13.000 Are you going to keep the studio there or two?
01:16:14.000 I'm going to fly over it in a plane when it's on fire.
01:16:17.000 You're not going to web a comedy story?
01:16:19.000 When Gavin Newsom detonates the nuclear weapon that he has under his desk.
01:16:26.000 What about stand-up?
01:16:27.000 Because they decide that they're going to kick him out of office.
01:16:29.000 You miss the comedy store?
01:16:30.000 He's going to have a suicide vest on.
01:16:31.000 Yeah, I do miss the comedy store, but the comedy store is not the comedy store anymore.
01:16:35.000 It's not open.
01:16:36.000 Right.
01:16:37.000 But when it opens up again, you're going to...
01:16:38.000 If.
01:16:39.000 If is the word.
01:16:40.000 LA is on a 10 p.m.
01:16:41.000 curfew now.
01:16:42.000 You know why?
01:16:43.000 Because COVID has a betty-bye time.
01:16:45.000 COVID, after 10 p.m., it comes out and it attacks people.
01:16:49.000 But before 10 p.m., we're fine.
01:16:50.000 But we got a vaccine coming, right?
01:16:52.000 When the vaccine next year, it'll open up again.
01:16:53.000 Why 10 p.m.?
01:16:55.000 That's so arbitrary.
01:16:56.000 Are you telling me you can't catch COVID between 6 and 10?
01:16:58.000 Like, there's going to be some sort of a thing that happens after 10?
01:17:01.000 People are more vulnerable.
01:17:03.000 They get drunk and put your guard down.
01:17:04.000 It's nonsense, man.
01:17:06.000 It's nonsense.
01:17:06.000 These fucking assholes are imposing rules on people that close their businesses down for no reason.
01:17:11.000 You still drinking on the show?
01:17:12.000 You want a drink?
01:17:13.000 Sure.
01:17:13.000 That's what you want?
01:17:14.000 I'll have one.
01:17:15.000 Am I getting you nervous?
01:17:16.000 All this crazy talk of COVID? No, you just mentioned alcohol and I thought, hey, you're still drinking on the show.
01:17:20.000 Yeah, we can have some booze, sort of.
01:17:22.000 Jamie, let's get us some whiskey.
01:17:24.000 Some Texas whiskey.
01:17:26.000 And some glasses.
01:17:26.000 No ice.
01:17:27.000 We're going like men today.
01:17:29.000 No ice.
01:17:29.000 Fuck it.
01:17:30.000 What kind of whiskey are you drinking here in Texas?
01:17:31.000 Whatever we have.
01:17:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:17:33.000 Do you have a favorite?
01:17:35.000 I've been drinking Bushmills.
01:17:37.000 That's good stuff.
01:17:38.000 I like Buffalo Trace.
01:17:39.000 Oh yeah, we had that last time.
01:17:40.000 Two reasons.
01:17:40.000 It's a sponsor, and they've been around since before America started.
01:17:45.000 Ah, okay.
01:17:45.000 They've been around since 1773. I see.
01:17:47.000 And it's really good.
01:17:48.000 They won, like, Whiskey Maker of the Year 2020. Yeah.
01:17:52.000 Bushmills is my grandfather's Irish heritage.
01:17:55.000 That's real shit.
01:17:56.000 Northern Ireland, so, you know.
01:17:58.000 My friend Josh Barnett has a great whiskey as well.
01:18:01.000 Goddammit, I don't have a bottle here.
01:18:03.000 I'm trying to remember the name of it.
01:18:04.000 It's like...
01:18:05.000 Warm Master.
01:18:06.000 It's like a smoky whiskey.
01:18:08.000 It's very good.
01:18:08.000 He brought it last time he was on the podcast.
01:18:10.000 Yeah, I drink scotch, too.
01:18:13.000 Balvini scotch, I like.
01:18:15.000 So you're getting hammered out there in the woods by yourself.
01:18:17.000 In the woods, I don't have the Balvini.
01:18:19.000 In the woods, I got a lot of mini bottles, like airplane bottles.
01:18:23.000 Oh.
01:18:24.000 I got a fridge full of those.
01:18:25.000 Do you?
01:18:26.000 Yeah.
01:18:26.000 Why don't you just have a big bottle and glass?
01:18:28.000 Once you open it, you know, you don't really want to open a bottle of booze in your van when you're driving around.
01:18:33.000 So you just drink them one at a time, and then you never have an open container, and that's my idea I came up with.
01:18:38.000 Oh, that's right.
01:18:38.000 Like, you can't have an open container in a car, right?
01:18:41.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:18:41.000 Is that the deal?
01:18:42.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:18:43.000 So I just got a bunch of little ones that drinks.
01:18:45.000 Quite smart, sir.
01:18:47.000 That's a healthy pour, my friend.
01:18:48.000 Salute, my brother.
01:18:49.000 Thank you.
01:18:49.000 Come on, man.
01:18:50.000 We're in Texas.
01:18:52.000 Mmm.
01:18:53.000 Mmm.
01:18:54.000 This is Still Austin.
01:18:57.000 Straight bourbon whiskey.
01:18:59.000 Local stuff.
01:19:00.000 Ooh.
01:19:01.000 Legit, right?
01:19:02.000 Very nice, yeah.
01:19:03.000 Very good.
01:19:04.000 Woo!
01:19:05.000 Bourbon.
01:19:06.000 That's this.
01:19:07.000 I don't drink alone.
01:19:07.000 That's corn, right?
01:19:08.000 Bourbon's corn?
01:19:09.000 Yep.
01:19:10.000 I don't drink alone.
01:19:11.000 You don't?
01:19:12.000 No.
01:19:12.000 No, I'm a social drinker.
01:19:14.000 I don't think I ever drink alone.
01:19:15.000 I smoke weed alone, though.
01:19:17.000 Yeah.
01:19:17.000 Yeah.
01:19:18.000 But I like to do that before I write.
01:19:20.000 Yeah.
01:19:21.000 Yeah, I heard Carlin talk about that.
01:19:24.000 I mean, Red or something.
01:19:26.000 He talked about how...
01:19:30.000 Let me get this right.
01:19:31.000 I get it.
01:19:32.000 He wrote first, and then he would write to punch it up.
01:19:36.000 One, he would drink when he was coming up with ideas, and then he would polish it up with some weed, I think.
01:19:41.000 Oh, really?
01:19:41.000 Or maybe it was the other way around, but yeah.
01:19:43.000 He definitely would punch it up with pot, he said.
01:19:46.000 He would smoke pot and then punch up the material.
01:19:49.000 It's interesting.
01:19:50.000 How are you supposed to write totally straight, you know?
01:19:53.000 I write in the morning a lot.
01:19:55.000 Totally straight.
01:19:56.000 Right.
01:19:56.000 Because you kind of got that energy.
01:19:58.000 But a lot of times it's just a scaffolding.
01:20:02.000 Just a framework.
01:20:03.000 And then pot's like, I got an idea.
01:20:06.000 Then I smoke the weed and the weed's like, I got an idea.
01:20:08.000 Yeah.
01:20:08.000 I feel like it's cheating sometimes.
01:20:10.000 Because the ideas aren't really mine.
01:20:12.000 They're the weed's ideas.
01:20:14.000 The weed's like, listen.
01:20:15.000 No, it's just relaxing your mind and taking you away from your distractions and allowing you to just kind of relax and think of things that you might not have thought of if you were distracted by all the seriousness of life, right?
01:20:27.000 I think it's more complicated than that.
01:20:29.000 I think your body is interacting with molecules that it doesn't come in contact with in the regular world.
01:20:35.000 And these molecules have a spiritual connection to the universe that you're not able to access without them.
01:20:41.000 That's what I really believe.
01:20:42.000 Wait, say that again?
01:20:43.000 I think the molecules of marijuana in particular, when you smoke pot and you just get this, there's a connection that you get with the universe that's not available when you're sober.
01:20:53.000 When you're sober, I think that your feelings are in some ways deadened.
01:20:59.000 They're deadened by an accumulation of life experience and overwhelming burden of your existence and your friends and your bills and your obligations and your life.
01:21:11.000 There's all these things going on and all these things sort of like squash and deaden your sensitivity.
01:21:17.000 Right.
01:21:18.000 Yeah.
01:21:21.000 And then everything just...
01:21:23.000 Everything opens up.
01:21:26.000 And then you have access to thoughts and ideas and feelings that you're just not available without the weed.
01:21:32.000 Right.
01:21:33.000 Yeah, absolutely.
01:21:34.000 It's a beautiful thing.
01:21:36.000 That's a beautiful thing.
01:21:37.000 Yeah, I remember the first time I was on your show.
01:21:44.000 How many years ago was that?
01:21:45.000 Wow.
01:21:47.000 I think...
01:21:48.000 That's back in the day, son.
01:21:50.000 I think we were pretty high for that one.
01:21:51.000 I think we got too high a lot of times for those shows.
01:21:53.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:21:55.000 And you noticed last time I was here, I was like, oh, I don't really like to smoke when I do the thing because I kind of get quiet, you know?
01:22:01.000 Get nervous.
01:22:01.000 We were talking about the election yesterday and I did it with Donnell and then Dave Chappelle come on and I got way too high.
01:22:07.000 I'm trying to think of what I really think about the election while I'm doing it.
01:22:11.000 Yeah.
01:22:12.000 Like, on one hand, I'm like, I hope people are more relaxed.
01:22:18.000 Like, the people that hated Trump, I hope they're more relaxed.
01:22:21.000 And I hope everybody just, like, maybe the country can heal together.
01:22:25.000 But on the other side, like, the people that think that Trump got robbed, like, they're angry.
01:22:29.000 Mm-hmm.
01:22:29.000 And it's almost like people are more separated than ever before.
01:22:34.000 And there's a lot of people that are like, there was no election interference.
01:22:38.000 There was no election fraud.
01:22:39.000 I'm like, I think there's always election fraud.
01:22:42.000 Always.
01:22:43.000 The question is how much of it is there.
01:22:44.000 If you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of workers, like we were talking about it yesterday, like what is the number of election fraud?
01:22:51.000 What's the percentage?
01:22:52.000 It's not zero.
01:22:54.000 Yes.
01:23:10.000 Quite possibly it's not.
01:23:13.000 In my opinion, I don't know.
01:23:15.000 I haven't done anything to research it, so I wouldn't be able to tell you for sure.
01:23:19.000 I just worry about the state of the country in terms of this polarization between the two sides.
01:23:26.000 The red versus the blue.
01:23:27.000 Because I think it's mostly bullshit.
01:23:29.000 I think mostly people are just Americans.
01:23:31.000 And we need to just...
01:23:33.000 Whoever's in office now, let's support them and hope they do the best.
01:23:38.000 Because one of the things we were saying yesterday was that...
01:23:40.000 I feel like when Trump was in office, people literally wanted the economy to tank so that he would be a loser.
01:23:47.000 They wanted things to go bad because they didn't want him to do well.
01:23:51.000 They would rat, like I was saying, if you gave a lot of hardcore people that were Trump haters the choice, would you rather have the country do fantastic and have...
01:24:02.000 Trump's, all of his ideas turn out to be the best for our culture, our economy, joblessness, everything's doing great, but he's bragging and he's on TV. Or, would you rather have everything tank and he goes to jail?
01:24:18.000 Fuck him!
01:24:19.000 Put him in jail!
01:24:20.000 I think there's a lot of people that would say that.
01:24:21.000 They would rather the economy go to shit and Trump wound up getting put in jail and removed from office than him being a winner and being successful.
01:24:31.000 It's very strange.
01:24:32.000 Because he's such a polarizing figure that we would rather him fail and then the United States – not we.
01:24:41.000 Some people would rather him fail and the United States be in a real bad situation than him kick ass and do amazing, the United States booming.
01:24:50.000 But this asshole that you hate is like the hero.
01:24:54.000 What you do here is amazing because you have this sort of very – Broad audience of people on both sides on your show and you have found a way to, I guess, not polarize it so badly that half the people don't want to pay attention anymore.
01:25:14.000 I don't think we do have two sides.
01:25:15.000 You don't?
01:25:16.000 I think it's a lie.
01:25:17.000 I think we have America.
01:25:19.000 I think we have...
01:25:20.000 You know what we're saying?
01:25:21.000 That somebody wanted to write something about you.
01:25:24.000 Like a negative comment about you on a YouTube video.
01:25:26.000 I like that, by the way.
01:25:27.000 You don't have two sides.
01:25:28.000 I like that.
01:25:29.000 Because I've been thinking a lot about that lately.
01:25:30.000 Because I've been...
01:25:31.000 I don't know if you can see in some of the videos.
01:25:33.000 I got my U.S. citizenship last year.
01:25:35.000 I think I told you that before.
01:25:36.000 Yay!
01:25:37.000 Welcome aboard.
01:25:38.000 They let me in.
01:25:39.000 Woo!
01:25:39.000 After 20 years.
01:25:40.000 But so, you know, I got my US flag that I hang from my awning in my videos.
01:25:47.000 Beautiful.
01:25:47.000 It's a beautiful thing.
01:25:48.000 You're out there.
01:25:49.000 And part of what I've been doing with, you know, my photos and my Podcast and my traveling is, I really, part of what it is is I just want to show my little audience at this time that's tuning in, I want to show them how much there is to celebrate in this country.
01:26:05.000 It's beautiful out there.
01:26:06.000 It's so beautiful.
01:26:07.000 It's rare, too.
01:26:07.000 People don't go out there, so it's beautiful.
01:26:10.000 I can't even believe it.
01:26:11.000 So, you know, I'm flying the flag.
01:26:14.000 I'm very proud to be an American, right?
01:26:17.000 I am very proud to be an American.
01:26:19.000 I'm proud to be.
01:26:23.000 I am.
01:26:26.000 And I'm also proud to be Canadian.
01:26:28.000 I was getting a little grief.
01:26:29.000 Save that.
01:26:29.000 Save that.
01:26:30.000 You were doing great.
01:26:33.000 You'll notice I put a little Canada sticker on them.
01:26:35.000 I've said in Canada that I think countries are bullshit.
01:26:39.000 I think you guys are basically Northern Americans.
01:26:41.000 I got mad.
01:26:42.000 I go, we're all North America.
01:26:45.000 You go, you're Canada.
01:26:46.000 I go, this is no different to me than being from fucking South Dakota.
01:26:49.000 Come on.
01:26:50.000 We're all humans on Earth.
01:26:52.000 I agree with that.
01:26:53.000 This is nonsense.
01:26:54.000 You just have a different king.
01:26:55.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:26:57.000 But no, it's interesting because, you know, everybody on social media has to kind of, you know, if you're putting information out there, you end up now having to deal with getting drawn into this argument,
01:27:14.000 which is frustrating to someone like me, because, you know, I just want to Take some cool pictures and tell some jokes and have some fun, and all of a sudden, oh, I said something that indicated I believe this or that, and everyone's mad at you.
01:27:29.000 So, I mean, I find it pretty incredible how you've found a way of navigating that.
01:27:35.000 Well, I don't know how I did it.
01:27:39.000 I think being honest is one of them.
01:27:41.000 And then also, I don't believe in the two sides.
01:27:44.000 I share a lot of opinions from both sides.
01:27:49.000 I do not have an ideology that is neatly tucked into the left or the right.
01:27:55.000 Well, didn't you endorse Bernie?
01:27:56.000 Yeah.
01:27:56.000 I love all of his ideas about helping community.
01:28:01.000 And I think this is a problem.
01:28:03.000 This is a problem that people that think of themselves as right-wing, they don't want to look at the good aspects of someone from the left.
01:28:15.000 Someone from the left like Bernie, first of all, he wants to absolve people of student debt.
01:28:20.000 I think if it's possible to spend trillions of dollars in these never-ending wars, it's also possible to absolve people's student debt.
01:28:28.000 I think getting people in debt for hundreds of thousands of dollars when you're fucking 17 is crazy.
01:28:36.000 When I was 17, I was a wild person.
01:28:39.000 I was barely a man.
01:28:41.000 I was crazy.
01:28:43.000 And for 17, 18 years old, to have a person like me and give them, saddle them down with hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt that's going to follow them to their grave is crazy.
01:28:53.000 And that's a giant...
01:28:55.000 Percentage of our population, I don't know what it is, but millions of people are saddled down with that kind of debt.
01:29:01.000 It's too much money, and it's crazy, and it doesn't make any sense.
01:29:04.000 Education could be something that we make for free.
01:29:07.000 I think we can use our tax money in better ways that benefit the community as a whole, and I think one of them is by giving people the access to education where it doesn't cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
01:29:19.000 And I think we could do that.
01:29:20.000 That's what it's like in Canada.
01:29:21.000 That is a left-wing perspective, right?
01:29:24.000 But I also like guns.
01:29:25.000 And I think you should have guns.
01:29:27.000 And I think I'm a firm supporter of the Second Amendment.
01:29:30.000 Because I know crazy people.
01:29:31.000 And there's people that are bad people.
01:29:33.000 They're violent and they're broken and they want to hurt other people.
01:29:36.000 And I think you should be able to protect your family.
01:29:38.000 And I think you should be able to protect the loved ones that you have nearby you.
01:29:42.000 And this is a real situation that comes up.
01:29:45.000 We wish it didn't.
01:29:47.000 Everybody that has a gun hopes they go to their grave and never have to pull the trigger on a person.
01:29:51.000 Yeah.
01:29:51.000 But guess what?
01:29:54.000 Better to have it and not to need it than to need it and not to have it.
01:29:58.000 Absolutely.
01:29:59.000 Now, we can pretend all day that the world's a perfect place and you're never going to need a gun, but you and I both know that's horseshit.
01:30:04.000 Yeah.
01:30:05.000 Right?
01:30:05.000 So that's an opinion I share on the right.
01:30:08.000 I'm a firm believer in the Second Amendment.
01:30:11.000 And then you get the First Amendment.
01:30:13.000 I would think freedom of expression and freedom of speech is one of the most liberal core tenets that you could ever ascribe to that side.
01:30:24.000 Like, the left has always been...
01:30:27.000 Pro-First Amendment, the ACLU, literally started out defending fucking Nazis, right?
01:30:32.000 Like saying that you have to defend everyone's ability to express themselves, even if their beliefs are abhorrent.
01:30:38.000 Even if they're the most disgusting beliefs in the world.
01:30:42.000 Your ability to express yourself...
01:30:59.000 And so that right there is...
01:31:06.000 Sort of like what we were talking about earlier when we were talking about how you had the confidence and autonomy with your show to do what you want to do and what you believe.
01:31:18.000 Politically, that's what you've also done too.
01:31:20.000 You like this, you like that.
01:31:22.000 These are things that are on opposite ends.
01:31:24.000 Why do these issues get divided, so clearly divided, where it's like, well, I can't want healthcare and a shotgun?
01:31:33.000 I mean, come on.
01:31:34.000 I kind of like not having to worry about getting sick, and also I want to go hunting.
01:31:38.000 I mean, what's the fucking deal?
01:31:40.000 You know, I can't.
01:31:40.000 A hundred percent.
01:31:41.000 I couldn't agree with you more.
01:31:43.000 And because you had the confidence and autonomy to be able to just say it because you didn't have all those people around with the clipboards and shit saying, well, we better not say that because we're on this channel or that channel and this is our message here.
01:31:56.000 Right.
01:32:17.000 You must.
01:32:18.000 Or you keep your fucking mouth shut.
01:32:20.000 If you want to get a job on television, you can't be a right-wing pundit on the side and also work on a sitcom.
01:32:31.000 They don't want you.
01:32:32.000 Right?
01:32:33.000 Right.
01:32:33.000 Or can you be down the middle, though?
01:32:35.000 Like, you're down the middle, right?
01:32:37.000 You're not a right-wing pundit.
01:32:38.000 You're not a left-wing guy.
01:32:39.000 Can you be down the middle?
01:32:40.000 Maybe, but even then, they'll be upset at you.
01:32:42.000 So even if you say one thing that is contrary to what they believe, and then you're in trouble as well.
01:32:47.000 You can be.
01:32:47.000 Yeah, you can be.
01:32:48.000 I mean, it really depends on how...
01:32:51.000 How open-minded the people, and how desperate the people are that are hiring you.
01:32:54.000 People get desperate.
01:32:55.000 They get panicky.
01:32:57.000 They feel like people get attacked for almost nothing, and then they fire them because they don't want blowback.
01:33:05.000 This is a big part of the whole Hollywood experience now.
01:33:10.000 It wasn't Natalie Portman.
01:33:12.000 Who was the actress that got in trouble because she played in Witches?
01:33:18.000 They were mad at her because she played a witch with three fingers.
01:33:22.000 Like literally, who is it?
01:33:24.000 It's a new movie.
01:33:25.000 It's so dumb.
01:33:27.000 She apologized.
01:33:28.000 She literally had to apologize.
01:33:30.000 Why?
01:33:30.000 Anne Hathaway, thank you.
01:33:31.000 Why?
01:33:32.000 Because...
01:33:32.000 Because she played...
01:33:34.000 It's in the book.
01:33:35.000 The original book.
01:33:36.000 Right.
01:33:38.000 Described this witch.
01:33:41.000 Here it is.
01:33:42.000 Anne Hathaway apologizes for a portrayal of limb difference.
01:33:46.000 Right.
01:33:47.000 Anne Hathaway has issued an apology for the pain caused to people with limb differences by her character in HBO Max movie The Witches.
01:33:59.000 Based on the Roald Dahl adaptation, Hathaway portrays the evil Grant High Witch who has three fingers on each hand that resemble the congenital disorder...
01:34:10.000 I don't know what that is.
01:34:12.000 It's a hard word.
01:34:15.000 It's an impossible word to say.
01:34:18.000 Ectrodactyly?
01:34:18.000 Is that it, Jim?
01:34:19.000 That word is impossible to say.
01:34:21.000 They need to come up with an easier word for that.
01:34:25.000 It's crazy.
01:34:26.000 People are looking for things to be offended by.
01:34:29.000 Yeah, listen.
01:34:32.000 Anne Hathaway should have said...
01:34:36.000 I played a witch.
01:34:38.000 Yeah.
01:34:38.000 That witch had three fingers.
01:34:40.000 Yeah.
01:34:40.000 I mean, no offense to you.
01:34:42.000 Yeah.
01:34:43.000 No need to apologize.
01:34:44.000 And if you want an apology from that, you're probably a fucking asshole.
01:34:48.000 Yeah.
01:34:48.000 And, you know, I'm sorry if you have three fingers.
01:34:51.000 I mean, I'm sorry if you have a disease that resembles that.
01:34:54.000 There may be some benefits to that, too.
01:34:55.000 I don't know what they would be, but...
01:34:56.000 What would they be?
01:34:58.000 So that was...
01:34:59.000 We could probably try to come up with some funny benefits, too.
01:35:02.000 That's her character, Jamie?
01:35:03.000 Yeah.
01:35:03.000 Listen, I sort of understand what it's like when you have something like that, you know, because I have one testicle, right?
01:35:10.000 So, you know, people will sometimes, like, make a joke about that, and I'll go, I'll feel like, oh, you know, sorry.
01:35:15.000 Because you have one testicle.
01:35:16.000 Yeah, because I had the testicular cancer, right?
01:35:18.000 And then someone will make a joke about, ah, you know.
01:35:20.000 And then I'll be like, oh, geez.
01:35:22.000 It's not that fun having surgery and having one of your testicles.
01:35:25.000 Sorry, I'm not trying to bring the mood down here, Joe.
01:35:27.000 But I'm just saying, so it's like what happens now is the internet sort of now, one person with three fingers is obviously saddened by that.
01:35:41.000 It might not even be real.
01:35:43.000 It might be someone looks at her and goes, you know what?
01:35:46.000 I think she should apologize for people that don't have all their fingers!
01:35:50.000 And they get mad.
01:35:51.000 It might be someone with five fingers that's saying this.
01:35:54.000 Exactly.
01:35:54.000 Someone with five fingers assumes the three-fingered person is offended, tweets it, and then the people with the clipboards at the office have to react.
01:36:03.000 We're going to get cancelled!
01:36:04.000 There's a retraction statement from Anne Hathaway.
01:36:08.000 Meanwhile, it's actually probably...
01:36:11.000 Good for the movie.
01:36:13.000 I heard about it from my mom because my mom recommended it to my daughter.
01:36:17.000 She's like, I think they would enjoy this movie.
01:36:20.000 Now, if they'd just given her 17 fingers or like 10 fingers, no one's got that, so no one would have been offended.
01:36:27.000 That would have been weird anyways.
01:36:28.000 Like a garden rake.
01:36:30.000 Yeah.
01:36:31.000 Ten fingers on each hand.
01:36:33.000 No one's offended.
01:36:34.000 There's no condition where you've got ten fingers on each hand.
01:36:37.000 It's too few that people get upset.
01:36:39.000 And now, are we going to get in trouble for sort of giggling about this?
01:36:42.000 I don't know.
01:36:42.000 What if you have three arms on each side?
01:36:45.000 Would people who worship Shiva get upset at you?
01:36:47.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:36:49.000 Which is very...
01:36:51.000 I love the presence of all of this.
01:36:56.000 Ganesh, remover of obstacles.
01:36:59.000 Yeah.
01:36:59.000 What's up, Jamie?
01:37:00.000 I'm reading an article talking to someone that seems like they were on the upset side.
01:37:04.000 It says that it seems like they're more mad that the character has this disability and they're also a villain.
01:37:11.000 Not just that they have the disability.
01:37:13.000 It's that they made them bad.
01:37:15.000 Well, isn't the character, like, not a human?
01:37:18.000 It's a witch.
01:37:19.000 Yeah.
01:37:20.000 Yeah.
01:37:20.000 They have fucked up teeth and they're bald and people are mad that they're bald also.
01:37:23.000 Oh, me too.
01:37:24.000 I forgot.
01:37:24.000 I'm mad now.
01:37:26.000 I'm bald.
01:37:27.000 I'm pissed.
01:37:28.000 I don't like when people make fun of bald people, Tom.
01:37:30.000 It's not right.
01:37:30.000 Oh, really?
01:37:31.000 It's rude.
01:37:32.000 I am bald and I am mad.
01:37:35.000 Anne Hathaway's bald in that movie?
01:37:37.000 Fuck her.
01:37:38.000 You think it's funny being bald?
01:37:40.000 Do you get mad about it?
01:37:41.000 No.
01:37:41.000 No.
01:37:41.000 Not at all.
01:37:42.000 You don't give a fuck?
01:37:42.000 No.
01:37:42.000 I have a good-shaped head.
01:37:44.000 I'm super lucky.
01:37:44.000 I don't have a flat back of my head.
01:37:47.000 She's kind of hot as a bald chick.
01:37:49.000 I dated a bald chick when I first moved to LA. She was a singer from Norway.
01:37:53.000 You got a good bald head, though.
01:37:55.000 Thank you.
01:37:56.000 Not everybody does.
01:37:57.000 Not everybody does.
01:37:59.000 There's a lot of people with weird heads.
01:38:00.000 You got a good bald head.
01:38:01.000 It's almost like...
01:38:04.000 It's supposed to be bald.
01:38:05.000 It's almost, if you had a full head of hair, you'd almost be better off to shave it.
01:38:09.000 Oh, I tell you right now.
01:38:10.000 Did you ever think about when you had purple?
01:38:11.000 You know, I should just shave it.
01:38:12.000 It looks better bald.
01:38:12.000 Well, I do think that back when I was really freaking out that I was losing my hair, I should have shaved my head early on.
01:38:19.000 But I was really worried that I would never get work.
01:38:23.000 Did you freak out when?
01:38:24.000 Yeah, I got hair transplants.
01:38:25.000 I used Minoxidil.
01:38:26.000 I did the whole thing.
01:38:27.000 I have a stupid scar in the back of my head, like a big smile from hair transplants from the 90s.
01:38:33.000 Because I was all of a sudden working, and I was like, oh my god, my hair's falling out.
01:38:37.000 Fuck, what am I going to do?
01:38:38.000 And I was thinking, I've got to do everything I can to keep working, because all of a sudden I was making all this money I was never making before.
01:38:46.000 I was on television.
01:38:49.000 You need that TV hair.
01:38:50.000 Yeah, you need TV hair.
01:38:52.000 And then once I shaved my head, I was like, oh my god, this is the best thing ever.
01:38:57.000 Like, I don't have to ever go to a barber.
01:38:59.000 I just, every couple days, they go...
01:39:02.000 I hit it with the buzzers, and then I'm good.
01:39:05.000 You know?
01:39:07.000 Well, mine's thinning, you know.
01:39:08.000 You gonna shave that bitch?
01:39:09.000 What are you gonna do?
01:39:10.000 I don't know.
01:39:10.000 It's getting a little crazy.
01:39:11.000 But you kind of look good as like a wild, crazy man with the hair all fucked up.
01:39:17.000 I like it.
01:39:17.000 I like your hair like that.
01:39:19.000 It's getting a little crazy.
01:39:20.000 You can like get by with your hair all fucked up.
01:39:23.000 You look good with like as a guy who has like a sock hat who takes it off and steps into the restaurant on a cold day and sits near the fireplace with all fucked up hair.
01:39:34.000 It's kind of good.
01:39:35.000 It works.
01:39:36.000 I like having the headphones on.
01:39:38.000 I made a choice not to put them on earlier because I thought, oh...
01:39:40.000 Well, you had your cowboy hat on.
01:39:41.000 Yeah, but this is...
01:39:43.000 I like this.
01:39:44.000 It locks you in.
01:39:45.000 People always say, well, you're right across from someone.
01:39:47.000 Why do you wear headphones?
01:39:48.000 The reason why is that it locks you 100% in the conversation and you're really aware of talking over each other, which everyone has a tendency to do.
01:39:57.000 I was conscious of it, but I've done enough of this over the years.
01:40:00.000 I knew to play the mic right, but I was missing this part of it.
01:40:05.000 Yeah, you know, when people don't want to wear the headphones, I'm always like, hmm, okay.
01:40:10.000 I did want to wear them, but I also didn't want to take off my cowboy hat right away.
01:40:13.000 It's a beautiful hat.
01:40:13.000 Because we're in Austin.
01:40:14.000 We're in Texas.
01:40:15.000 And you've been wearing that around.
01:40:16.000 I saw your videos.
01:40:17.000 See this dust on it, you know?
01:40:18.000 It's my dusty hat.
01:40:19.000 It's real dust.
01:40:19.000 You earned it.
01:40:19.000 I got this at the Stetson factory about five years ago, and it's a real Texas hat, so I wanted to...
01:40:27.000 It's a John B. Stetson.
01:40:28.000 It's a real deal.
01:40:28.000 I debated not wearing it when I came in, because I thought, oh, I'm walking with a f***ing cowboy hat on.
01:40:33.000 But then I thought, you know, shit, we're in Austin.
01:40:36.000 I've got to honor your move to Austin.
01:40:39.000 We're my frigging Stetson, goddammit.
01:40:41.000 Cheers, my friend.
01:40:42.000 Excuse my language.
01:40:43.000 Sorry.
01:40:46.000 $13 Silver Dollars by Colter Wall.
01:40:49.000 Talks about having a John B. Stetson.
01:40:52.000 Wakes up in the snow in a ditch.
01:40:54.000 I got my health, my John B. Stetson.
01:40:56.000 Got me a bottle full of baby's bluebird wine.
01:40:59.000 And I left my stash somewhere down in Preston, along with 13 silver dollars in my mind.
01:41:08.000 Nice.
01:41:09.000 You ever heard of Colter Wall?
01:41:10.000 I have not.
01:41:11.000 We'll play some after the show.
01:41:13.000 Oh, man.
01:41:14.000 What?
01:41:15.000 That's right.
01:41:16.000 He's Canadian.
01:41:17.000 Yeah.
01:41:17.000 Jamie turned me on to him.
01:41:18.000 Jamie is my source because I'm an old man and Jamie's a younger man.
01:41:21.000 Jamie turns me on to good music.
01:41:24.000 Oh, Colter Wall, it's a singer.
01:41:26.000 Yeah.
01:41:26.000 Yeah, it was beautiful.
01:41:28.000 Poetry.
01:41:28.000 I thought it was a poet or...
01:41:30.000 Dude, he's a guy that...
01:41:32.000 Like a Leonard Cohen, who's also Canadian.
01:41:34.000 He was 21, and he has this song called Kate McKinnon, and you listen to it, and you would swear to God, it is an 80-year-old man who's been drinking and smoking his whole life.
01:41:48.000 It literally doesn't make any sense.
01:41:50.000 Like, you hear the song, and you're like, what the fuck?
01:41:53.000 I wish we could play it.
01:41:55.000 That's him.
01:41:56.000 Oh, young guy, huh?
01:41:57.000 Yeah.
01:41:58.000 Oh, young as fuck.
01:41:59.000 Oh, okay, okay, cool, cool.
01:41:59.000 Wanna hear something crazy?
01:42:00.000 I feel better about not having heard of him.
01:42:02.000 I thought he was like some classic Canadian artist that has been around for a hundred years.
01:42:06.000 Oh, no, no, no.
01:42:07.000 How did that...
01:42:08.000 But now I'm glad that you're showing me this guy.
01:42:10.000 Wanna hear how authentic this cat is?
01:42:12.000 I love this.
01:42:12.000 We tried to get him on the show.
01:42:14.000 We contacted his agent.
01:42:15.000 This is what the agent said.
01:42:17.000 He works as a ranch hand in Texas.
01:42:21.000 Over the summer.
01:42:22.000 Damn.
01:42:23.000 And when he's done, we'll get a hold of you.
01:42:25.000 I bet he's from Calgary.
01:42:27.000 He's from Alberta.
01:42:29.000 Alberta, yeah.
01:42:29.000 Calgary, Alberta.
01:42:30.000 Because that's where we got...
01:42:31.000 Alberta, Canada's like the Texas of Canada, right?
01:42:34.000 Yeah.
01:42:34.000 We've got this Calgary Stampede.
01:42:35.000 And so I was right.
01:42:36.000 Yeah, he's a cowboy.
01:42:37.000 A Canadian cowboy.
01:42:38.000 Shout out to my friend John and Jen.
01:42:40.000 My friends John and Jen live up there.
01:42:42.000 Yeah, Alberta.
01:42:42.000 That's cool.
01:42:43.000 I love Alberta.
01:42:44.000 That's great.
01:42:45.000 Saskatchewan.
01:42:45.000 There he is.
01:42:46.000 Yeah.
01:42:47.000 Oh, wow.
01:42:48.000 He's from Swift Current.
01:42:48.000 You know what?
01:42:49.000 That's cool.
01:42:50.000 I'm from Swift Current, Saskatchewan.
01:42:51.000 He's only 25 now.
01:42:53.000 My grandparents met in Swift Current, Saskatchewan on my father's side.
01:42:58.000 Really?
01:42:58.000 It's a tiny little place.
01:43:00.000 How'd they meet?
01:43:01.000 I don't know that story.
01:43:02.000 I think everybody knew everybody in Swift Current.
01:43:05.000 Back in the...
01:43:06.000 It was probably 20 people living there at the time.
01:43:09.000 So this guy comes down to Texas in the summer and he works as a ranch hand all summer.
01:43:14.000 And they're like, he's not going to be done anytime soon.
01:43:16.000 This is literally like you try to get in touch with him for publicity.
01:43:20.000 We were blowing him up.
01:43:21.000 I blew him up on Instagram.
01:43:23.000 When Donald Trump asked me...
01:43:25.000 To host a podcast with him and Joe Biden.
01:43:29.000 I put it on my Instagram with his tweet and Coulter Wall's lyrics for The Devil Wears a Suit and Tie.
01:43:38.000 I put a quote from one of his lyrics and I just threw it up there.
01:43:42.000 Oh, it was his lyric.
01:43:42.000 Left it right there, yeah.
01:43:43.000 Just so people would listen to the song.
01:43:47.000 So when an up-and-coming artist...
01:43:49.000 Is he an up-and-coming artist?
01:43:50.000 Oh, yeah.
01:43:50.000 When an up-and-coming artist says they can't come on...
01:43:56.000 The Joe Rogan Experience, the biggest podcast in all of the world.
01:44:01.000 That must just make you want him to come on this show so much more.
01:44:04.000 No!
01:44:05.000 That must make you like him so much more, though.
01:44:06.000 I appreciate him.
01:44:07.000 Man, he's got the same fucking...
01:44:09.000 I love his music, but I love authenticity.
01:44:12.000 Right.
01:44:12.000 So if that's who he is...
01:44:13.000 He's literally a ranch hand.
01:44:14.000 He doesn't have time.
01:44:15.000 He's tending to the cattle.
01:44:17.000 Like, look, whenever he wants to, he can come here.
01:44:20.000 This is like, yeah, come on.
01:44:22.000 Have some more, baby.
01:44:23.000 Let's do it.
01:44:24.000 Like, Dave Chappelle came on yesterday.
01:44:25.000 Dave Chappelle and I have been friends since...
01:44:27.000 Oh, really?
01:44:28.000 ...1990.
01:44:29.000 Dave was here yesterday?
01:44:30.000 Yeah.
01:44:30.000 Wow.
01:44:31.000 I've never met Dave Chappelle.
01:44:32.000 But he's always like, Joe, eventually, I'm gonna come on your show.
01:44:36.000 Eventually!
01:44:36.000 Was that the first time he was on?
01:44:37.000 Yeah.
01:44:38.000 And he came on because Donnell was here and he just dropped in and hung out for, what was it, like an hour?
01:44:43.000 Yeah.
01:44:44.000 And then we're eventually...
01:44:45.000 I shouldn't probably say this on the show, but I'm gonna anyway because we've been drinking.
01:44:49.000 Dave and I are gonna do a residence here.
01:44:52.000 Yeah.
01:44:52.000 Yeah, we're gonna do a bunch of shows here.
01:44:54.000 Oh, really?
01:44:55.000 Yeah.
01:44:56.000 Could I do a spot?
01:44:56.000 Could I come and do five minutes or something?
01:44:59.000 Fuck yeah.
01:44:59.000 Fuck yeah.
01:45:00.000 I would love to do that.
01:45:01.000 Fuck yeah.
01:45:02.000 I've never met Dave.
01:45:03.000 He's a great guy.
01:45:04.000 You'd love him.
01:45:04.000 I'd love to meet him.
01:45:05.000 He's super genuine.
01:45:07.000 He's as genuine as it gets.
01:45:08.000 He's right there.
01:45:09.000 There's no bullshit with him.
01:45:11.000 He's right there.
01:45:12.000 He's right there with you.
01:45:13.000 But that's the same thing.
01:45:15.000 I'm like, whenever you're ready, I'm here.
01:45:17.000 The Kanye West thing, it was almost the opposite.
01:45:20.000 I was like, I like him too much.
01:45:24.000 I don't want to fuck him up.
01:45:26.000 I don't want him to...
01:45:27.000 Like, he was like...
01:45:28.000 The first time he wanted to come on the podcast, he was recently unmedicated.
01:45:34.000 Like, he had done this concert where he said he supported Donald Trump, and everybody booed him, and the next thing you know, he's in a mental institution.
01:45:41.000 Remember that?
01:45:42.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:45:43.000 Yeah.
01:45:43.000 Yeah, right.
01:45:44.000 He was on...
01:45:45.000 That's concert.
01:45:46.000 There was a video of him at this big stadium concert.
01:45:48.000 A while after that...
01:45:51.000 He said he wanted to talk about things, but nobody wanted to do it.
01:45:59.000 Or people were afraid to have him on.
01:46:01.000 And I said, I put on Twitter, I'd be willing to have you on, and we could talk about whatever you want for as long as you want to.
01:46:08.000 And then it became this giant thing.
01:46:10.000 And then him and I had a conversation on the phone, and I really enjoyed talking to him.
01:46:15.000 But my hesitation was purely that I didn't want to fuck him over.
01:46:20.000 Because I do think he's...
01:46:21.000 I mean, for lack of a better term, I think he's a special person.
01:46:25.000 I think he's a...
01:46:27.000 There's a rare diamond, right?
01:46:30.000 It's hard to make a Kanye West.
01:46:32.000 There's a few people that I know like that.
01:46:35.000 Like Joey Diaz.
01:46:36.000 It's hard to make a Joey Diaz.
01:46:38.000 You don't get a lot of Joey Diazes in this life.
01:46:40.000 You get one or two, ever.
01:46:42.000 And when I see a person like Kanye, and I see how sensitive he is, and I see all these people that are trying to chop him down all the time, and I made fun of his fucking sneakers.
01:46:53.000 I mean, Jamie gave me a pair of Yeezys, and I was making fun of him.
01:46:57.000 But I make fun of everything.
01:46:57.000 I make fun of me, too.
01:46:59.000 But I was like, I don't want this guy to have a bad time.
01:47:02.000 So I resisted having him on.
01:47:05.000 Really?
01:47:06.000 Yeah, even though I knew it would be...
01:47:08.000 A big show, like, ratings-wise.
01:47:10.000 I'm like, I don't want this guy to say something where people get mad at him.
01:47:13.000 And I would rather him just making music.
01:47:16.000 And I really got into his music, like, pretty deep after.
01:47:21.000 I mean, I always loved his shit.
01:47:23.000 Like, Gold Digger's a classic.
01:47:25.000 I always love a lot of his shit all day.
01:47:27.000 He's got some classic shit, right?
01:47:30.000 But after he did...
01:47:31.000 After he and I had that conversation, I really got into it.
01:47:35.000 And I was like, man, I don't want anything...
01:47:37.000 I don't want this to be negative.
01:47:38.000 And then I started getting messages from his people.
01:47:41.000 And even some of his people actually got in contact with my wife.
01:47:44.000 And they're like, we don't want Kanye to say anything crazy and having it ruin him.
01:47:48.000 And I was like, let's just leave it alone.
01:47:49.000 Is your wife involved with producing the show?
01:47:51.000 No.
01:47:51.000 Zero.
01:47:52.000 How'd they get in contact with him?
01:47:53.000 She knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody.
01:47:55.000 It's like a multi-chain step.
01:47:57.000 But I was like, alright, let's just leave it alone.
01:48:01.000 I'm just going to enjoy his music.
01:48:03.000 I'm like, just let Kanye be Kanye.
01:48:05.000 And then when he was running for president, and then...
01:48:08.000 And then he reached out to me a bunch, and I'm like, alright, let's just do it.
01:48:13.000 And then he and I had a conversation on the phone, and he sounded super stable and creative.
01:48:17.000 Well, I think you accomplished what you set out to do, because I thought he was...
01:48:25.000 I felt that I saw a side of him that I've never seen because he really was able to have the time and space to say what was on his mind.
01:48:34.000 He seemed to be in a very good place on your show.
01:48:37.000 I've seen him on TMZ and stuff, kind of scattered, but he was great.
01:48:41.000 And I'm a huge fan.
01:48:42.000 I think he knows that I respect him, too.
01:48:45.000 So he felt comfortable.
01:48:47.000 Sometimes you see he's got a little bit of a wall up.
01:48:49.000 Right, right, right.
01:48:50.000 He's waiting for this...
01:48:52.000 Attack.
01:48:53.000 Yeah.
01:48:53.000 Right.
01:48:53.000 He knew there's no attack coming from me.
01:48:55.000 So I think that helped.
01:48:57.000 He knows I love his music.
01:48:58.000 And he knows I think he's a unique human.
01:49:00.000 He's a unique human.
01:49:01.000 There's not a lot of people.
01:49:01.000 You love hip-hop, right?
01:49:02.000 I love hip-hop.
01:49:03.000 Because I saw you tweeted something about Gangstar recently.
01:49:06.000 Love Gangstar.
01:49:07.000 I'm like, Gangstar?
01:49:08.000 Dude, man.
01:49:08.000 Oh, my God.
01:49:09.000 I didn't know Joe, like, Gangstar.
01:49:10.000 Oh, my God, yeah.
01:49:11.000 Because, you know, when I was a kid, I was a rapper, and I made rap music and stuff, and I made beats.
01:49:15.000 I still make beats, but...
01:49:16.000 I like just doing it, but Grankstar, man, that was like Guru stepping the arena.
01:49:22.000 I was so bummed out when Guru died.
01:49:25.000 That was a bummer.
01:49:27.000 But I'm a big fan of DJ Premier.
01:49:30.000 I'm a big fan of a lot of that East Coast, early hip-hop.
01:49:35.000 There's so much good shit from there.
01:49:38.000 His beats are like that boom-bap hip-hop.
01:49:42.000 Well, there's a grittiness to East Coast early hip, like Cool G Rap.
01:49:46.000 Yeah, Streets of New York.
01:49:48.000 Yeah, Giant Fan.
01:49:49.000 The Streets of New York.
01:49:53.000 Occasionally, I'll listen to that song, Cock Blockin'.
01:49:56.000 Cool G Rap, Cock Blockin'.
01:49:59.000 Yeah.
01:49:59.000 Some great fucking songs, man.
01:50:01.000 Streets of New York, man.
01:50:02.000 That's a great song.
01:50:03.000 I love East Coast hip-hop.
01:50:05.000 Yeah.
01:50:07.000 Tribe Called Quest.
01:50:08.000 Yeah.
01:50:08.000 Low End Theory is my favorite album of all time.
01:50:11.000 If anyone ever asks me what's my favorite album of all time, I say The Low End Theory, Tribe Called Quest.
01:50:15.000 If I had to pick one rapper that I'm...
01:50:18.000 Well, I don't know.
01:50:19.000 Biggie is pretty top on the list, but also Nas.
01:50:22.000 There's something about Nas' lyrics.
01:50:24.000 Nas has the best lyrics.
01:50:26.000 Nas' lyrics.
01:50:27.000 I'll go back over his lyrics.
01:50:29.000 Like that Rewind song where he does the whole story backwards.
01:50:35.000 Come on, man.
01:50:36.000 He's so good.
01:50:37.000 He's so creative.
01:50:40.000 And his lyrics are...
01:50:42.000 His dad was a jazz musician...
01:50:45.000 Okay.
01:50:45.000 And I think that's true.
01:50:47.000 Jazz or blues?
01:50:49.000 His dad was a musician.
01:50:50.000 Yeah.
01:50:50.000 Like a professional, well-respected musician.
01:50:55.000 And Nas sort of, I think, sort of embodied that ethos and put it into hip-hop.
01:51:04.000 You know?
01:51:05.000 Because, like, one thing I remember from Mo' Better Blues, you remember that movie?
01:51:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:51:08.000 Spike Lee movie?
01:51:09.000 I remember being, like, real...
01:51:14.000 When Denzel Washington was like, he wouldn't even fuck his girlfriend because he had to practice, I was like, wow, that's dedication.
01:51:22.000 And I remember thinking, the dedication that a blues musician has, or a jazz musician has, where they're just constantly practicing their instrument, is so much different than a stand-up.
01:51:34.000 Or the same.
01:51:36.000 Yeah.
01:51:36.000 Or very similar, too.
01:51:39.000 I sometimes think stand-up, I mean...
01:51:42.000 But so much of us are fuck-ups.
01:51:43.000 Sort of like jazz, right?
01:51:44.000 Yeah, but fuck-ups in that we don't practice like they do.
01:51:48.000 They'll practice for hours and hours every day.
01:51:50.000 You getting up on stage every night, man, that's practicing, man.
01:51:54.000 Yeah, but you should practice before you get up on stage.
01:51:57.000 Most comics don't.
01:51:58.000 Yeah, well, how are you going to do it?
01:51:59.000 Sitting in front of the mirror, tell jokes?
01:52:01.000 Writing.
01:52:02.000 Oh, okay.
01:52:02.000 Writing, going over your nose.
01:52:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52:04.000 But I mean, I'm just saying, you know, I feel like, because I feel like I mean, what do I know?
01:52:10.000 But, like, you know...
01:52:11.000 You know, it's the space between the notes, right?
01:52:16.000 That's what they talk about with jazz, right?
01:52:18.000 The space between the notes.
01:52:22.000 You did a COVID test today, right?
01:52:23.000 That's the same thing...
01:52:24.000 Yeah, we both did, bro.
01:52:26.000 That's the same thing with stand-up.
01:52:28.000 It's the space between the jokes, even.
01:52:30.000 It's the space between the ideas.
01:52:32.000 Like, stand-up is the thing that requires...
01:52:47.000 Wait a minute, what is that?
01:52:49.000 Marijuana.
01:52:50.000 No, but I mean what?
01:52:52.000 It comes from Dono Rawlings.
01:52:54.000 That's some good shit, man.
01:52:55.000 That's good shit, right?
01:52:58.000 That's good for now.
01:53:00.000 I'm going to monitor that hit.
01:53:03.000 Good call.
01:53:04.000 Stand-up requires almost a lack of discipline to be wild enough to say some of the shit that we said.
01:53:13.000 But also, discipline to go over your notes.
01:53:17.000 Discipline to look at all these ideas and try to structure them in a way that's going to resonate with the audience.
01:53:24.000 And then also discipline to think about the set and what went wrong, what went right, and try to reevaluate.
01:53:31.000 So the words in stand-up and the ideas, that's where your fingers are on the piano, right?
01:53:39.000 That's the technical side.
01:53:40.000 And then the spaces...
01:53:43.000 Between the words and the rhythm and the timing with the audience, that's where...
01:53:48.000 Yeah.
01:53:50.000 Also your head, right?
01:53:51.000 Yeah.
01:53:52.000 Like where your head's at.
01:53:53.000 Because I, you know, like, I mean, again, like I've had a, you know, I've enjoyed making music over the years.
01:53:58.000 I wouldn't say that I'm that good at it, but I definitely love doing it.
01:54:02.000 And you can pull up my video from 1992 of when I was a kid in Canada.
01:54:08.000 I made a rap album.
01:54:09.000 And to me, it was like...
01:54:12.000 I love this.
01:54:13.000 It was sort of like the technology.
01:54:15.000 I got a sampler.
01:54:17.000 I worked all summer mowing lawns so I could buy a sampler, a used sampler.
01:54:22.000 And then I started sampling records, listening to Gangstar.
01:54:25.000 I'm going to try to do that.
01:54:34.000 That's me in the red jacket when I was 18 years old.
01:54:40.000 And, you know, this was our album.
01:54:42.000 That's 1990...
01:54:44.000 1991. That's been the Yellow Jacket.
01:54:46.000 Look how skinny I am.
01:54:47.000 1 18th of a megapixel camera.
01:54:50.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:54:50.000 Well, it's a bad upload.
01:54:52.000 We actually shot it.
01:54:52.000 It's a shot on film, actually.
01:54:53.000 That was shot on 16mm film on a Steadicam.
01:54:57.000 There we go.
01:54:58.000 Yeah.
01:55:00.000 They're me in the grocery store.
01:55:02.000 Are you friends with these guys anymore?
01:55:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:55:04.000 Greg Campbell is the other MC. He's a great rapper.
01:55:09.000 What's he doing now?
01:55:10.000 He is in Ottawa, and he's actually killing it as a real estate agent up there, and he's doing a great job.
01:55:17.000 He really is killing it.
01:55:19.000 Mr. Big Stuff, he called himself after.
01:55:24.000 He's an incredible rapper, actually.
01:55:27.000 Does he call himself Mr. Big Stuff when he's selling houses?
01:55:29.000 He should, man.
01:55:30.000 That's a good idea.
01:55:30.000 Show up with a clock on your neck.
01:55:31.000 He still has...
01:55:32.000 I'd like you to meet Greg someday, man.
01:55:35.000 Okay.
01:55:35.000 He's still got an incredible energy about him, and I feel like in a lot of ways, I learned a lot from him.
01:55:43.000 We were kids, you know?
01:55:44.000 But we met in high school.
01:55:46.000 We were skateboarders.
01:55:47.000 And he was the other skateboarder of my school.
01:55:49.000 He's a couple years younger than me.
01:55:50.000 Like, he's like...
01:55:51.000 And when we were like...
01:55:52.000 When I was 17 and he was 15, we went to New York and made a goofy record.
01:55:58.000 Wow.
01:55:58.000 And he's got...
01:55:59.000 There we are.
01:56:00.000 That's Greg on the right.
01:56:01.000 And that's my...
01:56:01.000 Jordy Ferguson, who I've had in Tuck, Tuck, Tuck.
01:56:04.000 He was our DJ in the middle.
01:56:06.000 But Greg on the right in the glasses.
01:56:07.000 Where are you?
01:56:08.000 Hilarious.
01:56:08.000 That's me on the left.
01:56:09.000 Bones.
01:56:10.000 Cut the fuck out of here.
01:56:10.000 That's not you.
01:56:11.000 Let me see your face.
01:56:12.000 Look at me.
01:56:15.000 Barely you.
01:56:16.000 See, it says Bones on my hat.
01:56:17.000 That's because that's from Powell Peralta Skateboards.
01:56:19.000 But I was Bones, MC Bones, because I was skinny.
01:56:23.000 Bones, rocking the microphone.
01:56:24.000 I'm like a king on the throne, only thing is I stand alone.
01:56:28.000 You know what I'm saying, Joe?
01:56:29.000 I do understand.
01:56:30.000 I get it.
01:56:31.000 This was our pizza commercial we did.
01:56:33.000 We did a local pizza commercial.
01:56:36.000 You can play that.
01:56:37.000 That's amazing.
01:56:38.000 Is the pizza company still around?
01:56:40.000 It was for a grocery store chain called Loeb.
01:56:44.000 You can play this video.
01:56:46.000 Can you play with the music?
01:56:48.000 We rapped in it.
01:56:51.000 Check this out.
01:57:00.000 Dude, you did a pizza commercial as a rapper.
01:57:04.000 Look at me, 19. Did that kid really need glasses or was that a prop?
01:57:09.000 I don't think that was me.
01:57:11.000 That kid right there.
01:57:12.000 Where?
01:57:12.000 The other one.
01:57:13.000 Right there with the glasses.
01:57:14.000 Oh, Greg.
01:57:14.000 No, no.
01:57:15.000 Greg needed glasses, yeah.
01:57:16.000 Okay.
01:57:16.000 Those were real glasses.
01:57:17.000 Yeah.
01:57:17.000 I really distrust people with fake glasses.
01:57:19.000 We keep it real, man.
01:57:20.000 We keep it real.
01:57:20.000 Organized, man.
01:57:21.000 We keep it real.
01:57:21.000 Right.
01:57:21.000 If you found someone that was wearing fake glasses, they weren't glasses, but they weren't prescription.
01:57:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:57:27.000 Wouldn't you get a little uneasy?
01:57:29.000 They're trying to be like John Lennon or something.
01:57:31.000 I don't know why I would get uneasy.
01:57:33.000 Yeah.
01:57:34.000 Why?
01:57:35.000 I require glasses now for reading.
01:57:41.000 Oh, do you really?
01:57:42.000 That started three or four years ago.
01:57:44.000 And I know how it started.
01:57:46.000 How old are you?
01:57:46.000 I am...
01:57:47.000 Guess.
01:57:49.000 30. No.
01:57:51.000 12. I'm bad at this.
01:57:53.000 I'm 49. Wow, you look great, dude.
01:57:55.000 No.
01:57:55.000 You do.
01:57:56.000 That's very nice of you.
01:57:57.000 Everyone online tells me I look old.
01:57:58.000 Look how fucking old he looks now.
01:58:00.000 Stop reading comments.
01:58:00.000 Look how fucking old he looks now.
01:58:01.000 Listen, if I was 20, I'd say that shit too.
01:58:03.000 This guy looks old as fuck.
01:58:05.000 But as an actual person that's near your age, I think you look great.
01:58:09.000 Yeah.
01:58:10.000 Thank you.
01:58:11.000 You look great, too.
01:58:12.000 Thank you very much.
01:58:14.000 How did we get to this?
01:58:15.000 What were we talking about right before that?
01:58:17.000 Well, who was the guy with the glasses?
01:58:18.000 Greg had glasses on.
01:58:19.000 And so I have glasses now.
01:58:22.000 I wore glasses only for reading my phone.
01:58:23.000 And I know why my eyes went bad.
01:58:28.000 Why?
01:58:29.000 And I actually said this the other day in your show.
01:58:34.000 You said, make it bigger for my old ass eyes, you said.
01:58:36.000 Right.
01:58:37.000 And I was like, that's what happened to me.
01:58:40.000 Yeah, you got old.
01:58:42.000 I thought you were going to tell me about something important, like chemical exposure or something.
01:58:46.000 I know how it went bad.
01:58:47.000 I just got old.
01:58:48.000 No, I do have a thing.
01:58:49.000 Oh, okay.
01:58:50.000 It's a real thing.
01:58:50.000 This is what it is.
01:58:51.000 When you wake up in the morning and it's still dark, don't look at your phone until you've turned the lights on.
01:58:57.000 And that fixes everything?
01:58:58.000 No, that's when you damage your eyes.
01:59:00.000 Looking at your phone in the dark.
01:59:02.000 I felt them break.
01:59:03.000 I felt my eyes break.
01:59:04.000 Maybe they're lifting weights.
01:59:05.000 Maybe your eyes are lifting weights.
01:59:06.000 No, it's in the dark.
01:59:07.000 The bright light of the dark.
01:59:09.000 Pussy ass eyes that are scared of matches.
01:59:12.000 I think it's when you look at your phone in the dark is what makes it go.
01:59:16.000 Imagine if you looked at difficult...
01:59:18.000 Like, the eyes are so much different than a lot of parts of your body.
01:59:20.000 Because, like, if you lift difficult things with your legs, you get bigger legs.
01:59:25.000 But if you look at too much shit with your eyes, they break.
01:59:28.000 Yeah.
01:59:29.000 Yes!
01:59:30.000 Right?
01:59:31.000 You don't think so?
01:59:32.000 Dude, I'm a doctor, basically.
01:59:34.000 That's true.
01:59:35.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:59:36.000 Like, legitimate...
01:59:37.000 No, first of all, they're going to break no matter what, right?
01:59:39.000 And part of it is apparently...
01:59:40.000 But your legs break down eventually as you get older.
01:59:42.000 They're already breaking down.
01:59:43.000 But I think it's also like there's a thing about looking at something that's always a certain distance from you on a regular basis over and over and over again.
01:59:52.000 I don't think we're supposed to do that.
01:59:54.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:59:55.000 Especially in the dark.
01:59:57.000 When you wake up in the morning and it's dark and there's a bright thing.
02:00:01.000 I believe it accentuates the speed at which it's not good for your eyes.
02:00:07.000 Because your eyes are exposed.
02:00:09.000 In photography, you're exposed for the darkness.
02:00:11.000 Your irises are at a certain point.
02:00:12.000 And then all of a sudden you hit it with this bright light.
02:00:15.000 That's what broke.
02:00:16.000 I felt it break.
02:00:17.000 I remember the day it went out of focus.
02:00:19.000 I was in the morning.
02:00:20.000 I was looking at my phone.
02:00:21.000 Okay.
02:00:21.000 Anyways.
02:00:22.000 We're good to go.
02:00:38.000 They're going to be able to put injections into people's eyes and then, I'm absolutely butchering this, but then do something with virtual reality that actually improves the way your vision is.
02:00:52.000 I remember seeing that.
02:00:53.000 I don't like the way that it's rewarded, but it seems good.
02:00:56.000 Without the laser eye surgery, I haven't had that.
02:01:00.000 Scientists have reversed age-related blindness by deliberately infecting the eyes of the virus.
02:01:06.000 This is exactly what Huberman was talking about.
02:01:08.000 A small...
02:01:09.000 And this is from 2017. And preliminary clinical trial has found that injecting a common cold-like virus in the eyes of age-related macular degeneration patients, one of the leading causes of blindness in the U.S., it can halt and even reverse the progression of the disease.
02:01:27.000 So it could reverse...
02:01:30.000 Wow.
02:01:31.000 So these people are way smarter than you and I, Tom.
02:01:35.000 They're different kind of humans.
02:01:36.000 They're out there trying to fix problems with cancer and age and telomere length and mental deterioration and all the things that plague all of us.
02:01:47.000 They're out there working on it.
02:01:50.000 We're just here talking shit.
02:01:51.000 And you're bringing attention to it, Joe.
02:01:54.000 Yeah.
02:01:54.000 Yeah, but yeah, absolutely.
02:01:56.000 But I mean, seriously, that would be...
02:02:02.000 I would get that.
02:02:03.000 My friend Cam Haynes.
02:02:04.000 I would get that injection because I can't stand...
02:02:06.000 It's blurry when I look at my phone now.
02:02:08.000 It's so annoying.
02:02:09.000 Is it blurry when you look at your phone?
02:02:10.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.
02:02:10.000 Oh, really?
02:02:11.000 Yeah.
02:02:11.000 Okay, good.
02:02:12.000 I feel better.
02:02:12.000 Yeah, if I look at my phone, I can read it right from here.
02:02:15.000 I heard you say that on the phone.
02:02:16.000 But it's not perfect.
02:02:17.000 I heard you say that on the show the other day, Thank you.
02:02:22.000 Dude, if I put glasses on, it looks great.
02:02:23.000 That's why I have these.
02:02:24.000 I was like, oh good.
02:02:25.000 Do I look sexy?
02:02:27.000 Yes.
02:02:28.000 If I put these bitches on...
02:02:29.000 I have glasses like that.
02:02:30.000 I should go get my glasses out of the van.
02:02:31.000 I can see everything.
02:02:32.000 Can you put a camera out by the van?
02:02:33.000 I'll show you the van.
02:02:35.000 My van's here.
02:02:36.000 I'm having fun.
02:02:37.000 I can't...
02:02:38.000 This is...
02:02:39.000 First of all, thank you, Joe, for having me.
02:02:41.000 Thank you.
02:02:41.000 Thank you for having me.
02:02:42.000 My pleasure, brother.
02:02:43.000 And thank you for legitimately inspiring me.
02:02:45.000 That's not bullshit.
02:02:47.000 Your show was one of the first things that I ever did where I thought, oh my god, you could do this on your own.
02:02:52.000 When I went to your house and you had these wires going through your living room, and then you had a server room, and me and Red Band were like, holy shit, dude.
02:03:00.000 What's up, Red Band?
02:03:01.000 Part of what got me interested in doing a podcast was going to your spot.
02:03:06.000 Thank you for the inspiration, my friend.
02:03:08.000 Please, thank you.
02:03:08.000 I appreciate it.
02:03:10.000 I think we're all in this together, man, but you, no doubt, without any question, you helped me a lot.
02:03:16.000 Because you gave me a thought that I didn't really have before, that some guy could be so ahead of the curve that, I mean, you were doing this in like 2000 and like, what, four?
02:03:25.000 What were you doing?
02:03:26.000 You have given me the inspiration of saying, oh shit, it actually could work.
02:03:32.000 It works.
02:03:33.000 It does work.
02:03:34.000 Joe fucking did it.
02:03:35.000 Yeah, but I got the idea.
02:03:37.000 A lot of it was from you and the rest of it was from Opie and Anthony.
02:03:40.000 You know, I think you're inspiring so many people because the thing is, that's the hardest part about being creative or being an artist or whatever you want to call it.
02:03:51.000 A comedian, a writer, a musician, all these things, right?
02:03:55.000 You dream something.
02:03:58.000 So...
02:03:59.000 The idea of not quitting, right?
02:04:02.000 That's like really the thing because everybody kind of sort of second guesses himself and says, okay, maybe I shouldn't just be doing this, you know?
02:04:13.000 I'm mentally ill, Tom Green.
02:04:15.000 I don't let things go.
02:04:17.000 Yeah.
02:04:17.000 No, it's beautiful though, man, because it's great to see.
02:04:20.000 I mean, here we are in, first of all, the UFO studio, which I love, and I wanted to ask you some questions about it.
02:04:28.000 Okay.
02:04:32.000 What is the inspiration for this incredible...
02:04:34.000 Chinese restaurants.
02:04:36.000 No disrespect.
02:04:37.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
02:04:38.000 Love Chinese restaurants.
02:04:39.000 Oh, wow.
02:04:39.000 I actually didn't even notice that until now.
02:04:43.000 I'm joking.
02:04:44.000 I hope people don't get mad at me for that.
02:04:45.000 No, they won't.
02:04:46.000 I love Chinese restaurants.
02:04:47.000 It does feel like that.
02:04:48.000 It's not negative.
02:04:48.000 No, it's great.
02:04:49.000 No, honestly, this was the whole idea behind it.
02:04:55.000 Matt Alvarez, who's the guy who built it, and I, we were thinking of what to do with the space.
02:05:01.000 There was a circular space like this.
02:05:02.000 The shape of the space is already there.
02:05:04.000 And I was like, that'd be kind of cool to have a podcast in there.
02:05:06.000 And then we found out that they have these sound panels that look like this.
02:05:09.000 And you can make them in different designs.
02:05:11.000 You can choose what designs you get.
02:05:13.000 I'm like, oh, those would be kind of dope as things on the wall.
02:05:16.000 And we just put it together.
02:05:17.000 And he did it all within five or six weeks of the time we decided we were going to move here.
02:05:22.000 So it happened so quick.
02:05:24.000 So what he's done, you know, with all this design and everything is we just ran with it, you know?
02:05:31.000 It wasn't anything that was thought out.
02:05:33.000 People are like, God, it's weird in there.
02:05:35.000 Like, yeah, I get it.
02:05:37.000 Yeah, it's weird.
02:05:38.000 Yeah, I don't know.
02:05:38.000 I like it.
02:05:40.000 But this is not the end.
02:05:42.000 This is what I needed to get in here.
02:05:44.000 This is like...
02:05:44.000 Think of this as a spaceship that takes us from the LA podcast studio to the Texas podcast studio.
02:05:51.000 The Texas podcast studio is under construction currently.
02:05:54.000 Yeah.
02:05:54.000 So when all that's...
02:05:55.000 This is our spaceship.
02:05:56.000 Wait, wait.
02:05:56.000 This is not the Texas podcast studio?
02:05:58.000 We're in a spaceship.
02:05:59.000 We've traveled from one podcast studio through this spaceship into the next podcast.
02:06:04.000 Oh, so this is not the studio.
02:06:05.000 This is not the ultimate destination.
02:06:06.000 Oh, we're not in the studio.
02:06:08.000 No.
02:06:08.000 Oh.
02:06:09.000 This is the spaceship leading us from one studio to the next.
02:06:13.000 I thought I was in the studio.
02:06:14.000 So there's a new studio coming.
02:06:15.000 New studio coming.
02:06:16.000 When's that going to be?
02:06:18.000 When Odin blesses us with his praise.
02:06:20.000 Oh.
02:06:21.000 We have to wait.
02:06:23.000 No one's bringing back Odin.
02:06:25.000 Imagine if you wanted to bring back Greek gods.
02:06:29.000 You're like, let's just go back to the classics, guys.
02:06:31.000 Thor!
02:06:32.000 Athena!
02:06:33.000 Come on!
02:06:34.000 Let me ask you a question.
02:06:35.000 If this is the spaceship and the new studio, is it going to be in a closed environment like this?
02:06:40.000 This is kind of really interesting to me.
02:06:42.000 Do you like it better?
02:06:44.000 Yes.
02:06:45.000 Really?
02:06:46.000 Now that I'm sitting here, before I might have said, you know, well, you could, you know, he's Joe fucking Rogan.
02:06:53.000 He could have as much space as he wants, but he could put himself in a big, big, giant thing, Coliseum kind of place with background, deep, deep background.
02:07:00.000 You could have like, but the thing is like, no, because I always think about depth in photography.
02:07:05.000 I think about depth, but then when you, as far as the experience, when you're in an intimate conversation with one person for an hour, you're sitting there going, oh, we're going to talk to each other for an hour.
02:07:13.000 It's kind of a nice feeling like there's not people back far in the distance.
02:07:17.000 I think it creates an interesting environment.
02:07:19.000 Just acoustically, it's really cool.
02:07:22.000 Acoustically, it's nice.
02:07:23.000 That's what I have to say about that.
02:07:25.000 There's less space, which makes us somehow or another more intimate with the same amount of distance between each other.
02:07:30.000 So is it going to be an enclosed space, or is it going to be a larger room?
02:07:34.000 Both would be good, by the way.
02:07:35.000 Split the difference.
02:07:36.000 It's going to split the difference, I think, between this one and the old one.
02:07:39.000 But just be more normal, I think.
02:07:41.000 Less distracting, you know.
02:07:44.000 This is awesome.
02:07:45.000 Thank you.
02:07:45.000 I like it too.
02:07:46.000 But I don't know if it's necessarily perfect.
02:07:49.000 It's just fun.
02:07:50.000 It's fun to be able to make...
02:07:51.000 I'm not a big designer, but it's fun to just do different shit.
02:07:55.000 It'd be fun to have a green screen behind me and be in space every day.
02:07:58.000 Different galaxies floating behind me.
02:08:00.000 We could do a lot of shit.
02:08:02.000 So what is that that you think that it is that it is in people where we drive ourselves to kind of create this vision we have in our mind, you know?
02:08:10.000 You have a vision in your mind.
02:08:15.000 This is not even the end of the vision.
02:08:17.000 This is the beginning of the new vision, right?
02:08:21.000 This is not even the studio.
02:08:22.000 I thought it was in the studio.
02:08:23.000 It's a spaceship.
02:08:24.000 It's just a spaceship.
02:08:25.000 This is the first time anyone's hearing this because it's the first time I've ever said it because it's the first time I thought of it.
02:08:31.000 Yeah.
02:08:32.000 There is no other studio.
02:08:33.000 This is the next studio that's taking us to the next studio.
02:08:37.000 There is going to be another studio.
02:08:38.000 This really is a spaceship.
02:08:40.000 If you could look at it, that would be a metaphor.
02:08:42.000 Is that a metaphor, technically?
02:08:44.000 Now, and listen, I'm not going to ask any more questions about the new studio because I want to do...
02:08:51.000 Well, it's just different shit, man.
02:08:53.000 I want to do a bunch of different things, but I do want to do some where it's a room that's 100% green screen.
02:08:59.000 And I want to figure out what we have to do to be in space.
02:09:03.000 I want to do a conversation in space.
02:09:06.000 Yeah.
02:09:06.000 So one of the rooms I want to do, I want to do a full circular green screen.
02:09:11.000 Wait, wait, wait.
02:09:14.000 Can you start that again?
02:09:16.000 Yeah.
02:09:16.000 You want to do an interview in space?
02:09:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:09:19.000 Do a room where, say, like you and I, Tom Green, Joe Rogan, sitting at a bar table, a circular bar table, you and I would just hang in talking to each other, just two microphones, very intimate.
02:09:34.000 Behind us, all green screen, in space.
02:09:36.000 So when you see the podcast, it's just us in space.
02:09:40.000 So that's what...
02:09:41.000 I love that.
02:09:42.000 Is that really where it's going?
02:09:43.000 The problem would be you wouldn't see that it's in space.
02:09:47.000 You would just see green, right?
02:09:49.000 Would that be weird?
02:09:50.000 We can do that.
02:09:51.000 Well, what I'm saying...
02:09:52.000 Yeah, we can do that, right?
02:09:52.000 I think I told you about we could do what you're saying just so it's not green screen.
02:09:56.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
02:09:56.000 What would it be?
02:09:57.000 It's actually there.
02:09:57.000 No, I think I just...
02:09:58.000 I think I thought of it.
02:09:59.000 It's like projected around you.
02:10:00.000 I think I thought of an idea.
02:10:02.000 Is that better?
02:10:04.000 Yeah, it's better?
02:10:05.000 It's not cheaper, but it's better.
02:10:07.000 Just paint this room green.
02:10:09.000 You could do that.
02:10:10.000 Just spray paint this room green.
02:10:11.000 Yeah, you could do that.
02:10:13.000 So you could have it like green, so you can do that, but also you have the intimacy of the clothes.
02:10:18.000 Like Anthony Cumia from Opie and Anthony, his whole thing is green screen, right?
02:10:21.000 He does like green...
02:10:22.000 You didn't go with me?
02:10:25.000 He has a setup where, if you go to his channel, go to see if there's a clip of him, it looks like he's in front of a window that overlooks this spectacular...
02:10:36.000 It's just a green screen.
02:10:38.000 Wow.
02:10:38.000 It's indoors.
02:10:40.000 What's up, Anthony?
02:10:41.000 How's it going?
02:10:42.000 Those guys from Opie and Anthony and Jim Norton, when those guys would have you on the podcast or the radio show, rather.
02:10:49.000 I say podcast because it really was the first podcast.
02:10:52.000 I think Opie and Anthony was the first podcast.
02:10:54.000 Because it was sort of structure-less.
02:10:56.000 They split up.
02:10:57.000 They did split up.
02:10:59.000 Unfortunate.
02:11:00.000 They needed a mediator.
02:11:01.000 There he is.
02:11:02.000 So that's all green screen behind him.
02:11:04.000 Maybe you think they'll ever get back together?
02:11:06.000 Fuck, it would be amazing.
02:11:07.000 Listen, sometimes people, when they work together for long periods of time, they just get on each other's nerves.
02:11:13.000 They hate each other.
02:11:14.000 Mm-hmm.
02:11:15.000 But what they had, like, I can't hate each other 100%.
02:11:19.000 What they had when those guys were together, when everything was rocking and rolling, I mean, it was a great fucking show.
02:11:26.000 It was a great show for comics, because we would come in and they taught me how to be just, they taught me how to just hang.
02:11:37.000 Like on a radio show, where you didn't have to think, like, oh my god, this is like this really structured program.
02:11:42.000 There was no structure.
02:11:44.000 It was Ari Shafir and Bill Burr and Patrice O'Neill and Rich Voss.
02:11:50.000 It was fucking chaos.
02:11:52.000 It was so fun.
02:11:53.000 It was so ridiculous.
02:11:54.000 And we would look forward to it.
02:11:56.000 Like, I remember I'd smoke a joint and then drink coffee, or we would take pot lollipops or something.
02:12:02.000 And we would be on our way to Opie and Anthony, like Ari and I, and it would be, you know, fucking 6 o'clock in the morning.
02:12:07.000 We're exhausted.
02:12:09.000 Did a show last night, but we were so pumped to get there.
02:12:12.000 Because we knew maybe Colin Quinn was going to come by.
02:12:15.000 All these different comics were going to be there.
02:12:16.000 And it was just a hang, man.
02:12:18.000 It was just a hang.
02:12:19.000 Everybody was just laughing and goofing on each other.
02:12:24.000 And it was, you know, sometimes you'd have four or five comics in the room.
02:12:27.000 And there's so many people that were obviously in America and the world who remember where they were at that time, listening.
02:12:36.000 All the listeners, right?
02:12:38.000 Listening to that?
02:12:38.000 There were some moments that were the most...
02:12:41.000 One of the craziest things I've ever seen in my life happen on that show, where they had an eggnog drinking contest, and this dude...
02:12:53.000 Paul from Wynaki.
02:12:54.000 Pat.
02:12:55.000 Pat from Wynaki.
02:12:56.000 Pat from Wynaki is a dude who won their eggnog drinking contest and then vomited in another man's mouth who was leaning over a garbage can surrounded by comics, Bill Burr,
02:13:11.000 Ari Shafir, me, Opie, Anthony, a bunch of staff.
02:13:15.000 Uh-huh.
02:13:16.000 Threw up in this dude's mouth.
02:13:19.000 Pat Duffy.
02:13:20.000 He leaned over a garbage can and opened his mouth like this.
02:13:24.000 Look at this.
02:13:25.000 So he's leaning over this garbage can.
02:13:26.000 He's got his neck over this.
02:13:27.000 And this other guy, Pat, who's behind him, is at the end of the line.
02:13:32.000 He's probably done...
02:13:33.000 How many shots do you think he did, Jamie?
02:13:35.000 Do you remember?
02:13:35.000 I had close to 20-ish, maybe?
02:13:38.000 More?
02:13:38.000 I don't know.
02:13:38.000 I had a night like this once at the Rivoli Theater in Toronto, actually.
02:13:43.000 But he keeps downing these shots of eggnog.
02:13:46.000 And he also has diabetes.
02:13:48.000 So he really has to throw it up.
02:13:50.000 Like, you really can't keep it in his body because it's so much sugar.
02:13:52.000 It might kill him.
02:13:53.000 This is a crazy scene, man!
02:13:55.000 Wait, what year is this?
02:13:56.000 Oh, I don't know.
02:13:57.000 Oh my god, wait.
02:13:58.000 Where...
02:13:59.000 Early 2000s.
02:14:00.000 Where are you?
02:14:01.000 Look at this!
02:14:02.000 Where are you?
02:14:03.000 I don't know.
02:14:04.000 I'm in there somewhere.
02:14:04.000 Oh, okay.
02:14:06.000 That might be me filming right there.
02:14:08.000 Is that me?
02:14:10.000 I think that is me.
02:14:11.000 Okay.
02:14:12.000 There we go.
02:14:12.000 That's me on the mic filming.
02:14:14.000 You know, it was just the 90s were weird.
02:14:16.000 Dude, everybody has a flip phone.
02:14:18.000 I have a flip phone.
02:14:19.000 Watch him throw up in this dude's mouth.
02:14:21.000 Ready?
02:14:21.000 Look at that.
02:14:22.000 Okay.
02:14:23.000 Hello.
02:14:23.000 Wow.
02:14:24.000 That's one of the craziest things.
02:14:26.000 Whoa!
02:14:26.000 How much?
02:14:27.000 It keeps going, dude.
02:14:28.000 It's cartoonish.
02:14:29.000 It keeps going.
02:14:30.000 What was he eating that day?
02:14:32.000 Eggnog, bro.
02:14:33.000 You're not listening.
02:14:34.000 Look, look, look.
02:14:35.000 Whoa!
02:14:37.000 I'm seeing this for the first time.
02:14:39.000 I think he's got more.
02:14:39.000 He's got more.
02:14:40.000 He's got another one in him.
02:14:41.000 It's like the meaning of life, the final scene of the meaning of life.
02:14:44.000 I think he's got one more.
02:14:45.000 Look, look.
02:14:47.000 Preposterous!
02:14:48.000 Preposterous amounts of eggnog.
02:14:50.000 Wow.
02:14:51.000 In this guy's mouth.
02:14:53.000 And look, it's the Dexter scene.
02:14:55.000 This is Dexter.
02:14:56.000 Look at the ground.
02:14:57.000 It's covered in plastic.
02:14:59.000 Everyone knew there was going to be throw-up.
02:15:00.000 This is a radio show.
02:15:01.000 Do you understand how crazy this is?
02:15:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:15:04.000 The video only came from cell phones.
02:15:07.000 There was no show on video.
02:15:09.000 This is how bonkers radio was back then.
02:15:13.000 And so those guys gave a chance to guys like Ari and me and Joey Diaz and all those guys who out of that group that were doing those radio shows early in the morning and you would do that show and you would go,
02:15:29.000 why can't we do this?
02:15:30.000 And that was a seed too.
02:15:32.000 So between you and them.
02:15:34.000 And then the fact that Adam Carolla went right from radio.
02:15:37.000 He went to doing his own podcast and a bunch of other people did the same thing.
02:15:42.000 I was like, okay.
02:15:45.000 It's a...
02:15:46.000 I mean, look.
02:15:49.000 Charlie just got up, by the way.
02:15:51.000 That's a beautiful thing.
02:15:51.000 Chopper.
02:15:52.000 I'd like to say...
02:15:53.000 It's Chopper, bro.
02:15:54.000 First of all, Joe, thank you.
02:15:55.000 And what's up to Opie and Anthony?
02:15:57.000 Salute.
02:15:58.000 And Charlie just woke up.
02:16:02.000 So let me just get Charlie.
02:16:03.000 Charlie, what are you doing?
02:16:07.000 Maybe you can come up here, say hi.
02:16:09.000 This is never going to work.
02:16:10.000 People always want to bring dogs on the podcast.
02:16:12.000 You watch.
02:16:13.000 My dog was on the podcast for like five seconds.
02:16:15.000 Charlie is chill.
02:16:16.000 I'm sure she's chill.
02:16:17.000 Definitely won't interfere with the conversation at all.
02:16:19.000 Ignore her for a second.
02:16:20.000 Okay.
02:16:22.000 Check it out.
02:16:25.000 Talk about Marshall May Rogan.
02:16:30.000 Yeah, that's his name.
02:16:31.000 Why are you saying ignore her?
02:16:33.000 Well, just because you thought she was going to interrupt the conversation.
02:16:36.000 I'm just joking.
02:16:37.000 She's adorable.
02:16:38.000 She won't.
02:16:39.000 She's a sweet little dog.
02:16:41.000 Isn't she interesting?
02:16:42.000 She's very sweet.
02:16:43.000 Well, she's very calm, which means she's loved.
02:16:46.000 Look at the way she's embracing you.
02:16:48.000 That's a loved dog.
02:16:49.000 I do love her.
02:16:50.000 She can tell.
02:16:51.000 Look how she leans into you, man.
02:16:53.000 When Marshall, when you pet him, he leans into your leg.
02:16:56.000 It's the sweetest thing.
02:16:58.000 He's trying to stay in contact with you.
02:17:00.000 Yeah.
02:17:01.000 So, I mean, I've had two Siberian Huskies for 15 years before Charlie.
02:17:08.000 But this is new relationship.
02:17:10.000 You're seven months old, Charlie.
02:17:12.000 You're seven months old.
02:17:12.000 You know what's fucked up, man?
02:17:13.000 It's like you could look at things almost in two different ways.
02:17:16.000 You could be a reductionist person.
02:17:17.000 You could say, like, well, you know, the weird thing about dogs is...
02:17:21.000 It's really what mankind has done to wolves.
02:17:24.000 Like, they've taken them and subjugated them and then fucking genetically mutated them to be some thing that sits in your lap that relies on you to stay alive.
02:17:34.000 Like, man.
02:17:36.000 Yeah, but you can't fix that.
02:17:38.000 And dogs are real, and they're real right now, and you could have a dog like Charlie.
02:17:43.000 Yeah, well, I think about that because we're out there and the coyotes are out there.
02:17:49.000 Dude, I really am living out in the middle of the woods.
02:17:52.000 It's really kind of crazy.
02:17:53.000 Like, for real, that's actually what we've been doing for the last six weeks and it's ridiculous, but it's really fun and I'm loving it and Charlie's loving it.
02:18:02.000 Dude, Charlie's adorable.
02:18:03.000 We go for a walk in the woods every day.
02:18:05.000 She's so sweet.
02:18:06.000 And she's having a good time.
02:18:08.000 She gets crazy.
02:18:09.000 She gets a little crazy.
02:18:10.000 She gets her zoomies.
02:18:12.000 Oh yeah, I love when they do that.
02:18:14.000 Especially at her age, right?
02:18:16.000 It can get frustrating sometimes.
02:18:18.000 Well, you've got to run with her or do something with her, throw a ball to her.
02:18:21.000 Yeah, no, and she'll instigate all that stuff.
02:18:24.000 So, yeah, I do want to worry about her.
02:18:31.000 I'm sure you love her.
02:18:32.000 We're out in the middle of nowhere.
02:18:34.000 She's got a GPS tracker on her collar.
02:18:38.000 I put tape over my phone number on the dog tag before I came to the show because my personal cell phone number is on there.
02:18:47.000 You don't want to get them dick pics.
02:18:48.000 I just didn't want it up on the thing, so I thought about that.
02:18:52.000 If you did have it up, how many dick pics do you think you'd get?
02:18:55.000 Let's take the tape off for a second.
02:18:56.000 I'll give my cell phone number.
02:18:57.000 Let's see.
02:19:00.000 I love dogs, but it is crazy what we did to the wolf.
02:19:04.000 Yeah.
02:19:04.000 It's crazy.
02:19:05.000 Did we do it, or did they...
02:19:06.000 They saw an opportunity.
02:19:08.000 They saw a campfire.
02:19:09.000 They saw a bunch of fresh-cooked meat.
02:19:12.000 Delicious.
02:19:13.000 They'd go in, be cute.
02:19:15.000 Someone throws me...
02:19:16.000 This is the same argument that predatory women use when they steal men's money and divorce them.
02:19:22.000 Like when a hot lady marries an old billionaire.
02:19:25.000 Yeah.
02:19:25.000 Same sort of logic.
02:19:27.000 Well...
02:19:28.000 Did we really do it to them?
02:19:29.000 Or did they do it to themselves?
02:19:31.000 Did they come close to the campfire?
02:19:33.000 Yeah, well...
02:19:34.000 Did they want the love?
02:19:35.000 I think that's what it is with dogs, though.
02:19:38.000 They just evolved from that, right?
02:19:39.000 I think they for sure did for a while.
02:19:43.000 They were close to us.
02:19:44.000 And then once we started capturing them and keeping them in our houses and shit, the ones that survived are the ones that were the most obedient, the ones that were the most compliant, the ones that didn't...
02:19:55.000 Give us a hard time.
02:19:57.000 The ones that, you know, just wanted love.
02:19:59.000 Like, think about that sometimes when I'm hanging out with my dog.
02:20:02.000 Like, he's the sweetest thing in the world.
02:20:03.000 I love him to death.
02:20:04.000 Like, we have these little hug sessions in the morning.
02:20:07.000 Like, every morning when I wake up, I go, hello, sir.
02:20:09.000 Hello, sir.
02:20:10.000 He's like, oh!
02:20:11.000 He's, like, so excited to see you.
02:20:12.000 He's such a sweetheart of a dog.
02:20:14.000 But I'm like, he couldn't survive on his own.
02:20:16.000 Like, he's this fluffy thing that's amazing.
02:20:20.000 He's full of love, like a love sponge.
02:20:22.000 But that's not an animal that...
02:20:25.000 He survives as an animal.
02:20:27.000 He's essentially a carnivore.
02:20:29.000 I'm feeding him food.
02:20:30.000 I have to feed him.
02:20:32.000 But as long as I do that, he'll stay this sort of sweet, compliant, well-fed thing.
02:20:38.000 But wild dogs kill people.
02:20:40.000 Some lady got killed by a wild dog like a week ago.
02:20:44.000 There was some article I saw.
02:20:47.000 I think it was a lady got killed.
02:20:49.000 Or maybe it was an old man.
02:20:50.000 But someone got killed.
02:20:51.000 Do you remember it, Jamie?
02:20:53.000 Somebody got killed by a wild dog.
02:20:56.000 Good girl.
02:20:57.000 Today.
02:20:57.000 Today.
02:20:58.000 Oh, look at this.
02:20:58.000 Florida man killed by a pack of wild dogs.
02:21:00.000 Florida man killed by a pack of wild dogs.
02:21:03.000 Today.
02:21:05.000 Today.
02:21:05.000 Why is it always in Florida these things happen?
02:21:07.000 Because it's the best spot on earth.
02:21:10.000 It's aliens amusement park.
02:21:13.000 It's always in Florida man.
02:21:15.000 I wonder if it's in the air.
02:21:17.000 Yeah.
02:21:17.000 Imagine if that's what they prove, like you go to Florida.
02:21:21.000 Yeah, get in there, buddy.
02:21:21.000 I don't want to, like...
02:21:23.000 I don't want to make a fool of myself here.
02:21:25.000 They prove that if you go to Florida, your IQ drops 3%, and your inability to say no to meth goes up by 1,000%.
02:21:34.000 You can drink too much sometimes, but, I mean, Joe, it's an honor to be here having whiskey with you, man.
02:21:39.000 It's an honor to have you, brother.
02:21:41.000 For real, legitimately, I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are one of the reasons why I do this, so thank you very much.
02:21:47.000 I mean...
02:21:47.000 When you were doing that show out of your house and you had me over as a guest and I remember sitting at your table going, look at what Tom Green did.
02:21:55.000 This is amazing.
02:21:56.000 You made your own thing.
02:21:58.000 You made your own show.
02:22:00.000 And you were doing a call-in talk show with a desk.
02:22:03.000 Listen, I appreciate it, Joe.
02:22:05.000 You don't have to...
02:22:07.000 Say it.
02:22:10.000 It's true, buddy.
02:22:11.000 It's so cool, man.
02:22:12.000 Just being here and just, you know, this whiskey is really good.
02:22:17.000 It's pretty damn good, right?
02:22:17.000 Like, really good.
02:22:18.000 Pretty damn good.
02:22:18.000 Especially when you're drunk.
02:22:20.000 This is a Still Austin straight bourbon whiskey.
02:22:23.000 When you're drunk, it's like it's not clear what actually is good.
02:22:27.000 What was the first drink you had when you were a kid?
02:22:33.000 When do you start drinking?
02:22:34.000 When do you start drinking?
02:22:35.000 How old were you when you started drinking?
02:22:37.000 High school kids.
02:22:38.000 High school, yeah.
02:22:39.000 Yeah, I remember when I first got really fucked up on Jack Daniels to the point where I couldn't smell Jack Daniels for like years.
02:22:45.000 I had that experience with Wild Turkey.
02:22:48.000 Wild Turkey and Maker's Mark.
02:22:50.000 I had that, yeah.
02:22:53.000 I threw up in a cab when I was like 15 years old.
02:22:56.000 Yeah.
02:22:57.000 Oh.
02:22:58.000 I remember that.
02:22:59.000 Same 15. Listen, Wild Turkey was my first bourbon experience and it did not end well.
02:23:11.000 Yeah, Wild Turkey will fuck you up, right?
02:23:14.000 That stuff is seriously potent, isn't it?
02:23:16.000 Isn't it like a higher percentage of alcohol?
02:23:18.000 It's like a moonshine.
02:23:20.000 What happened was my friend Phil and I, who was my best friend growing up, we went on a camping trip one time.
02:23:30.000 This is what kids in Canada do when they're in their 20s.
02:23:33.000 When they're not skateboarding, hey, let's go paddle.
02:23:35.000 Take a walkabout?
02:23:36.000 We brought a canoe and we said, let's paddle out to that island and we'll bring some beer, we'll bring some whiskey, we'll light a fire, we'll hang out and it'll be fun.
02:23:44.000 Anyways, we went out.
02:23:45.000 I flipped the canoe on the way.
02:23:46.000 The beer sunk to the bottom of the lake.
02:23:48.000 All we had was our bottle of wild turkey.
02:23:49.000 So we didn't have the beer.
02:23:51.000 It was not a good thing.
02:23:53.000 Damn, dude.
02:23:56.000 Canadian life is a different life.
02:23:58.000 That's why people are nicer up there.
02:24:00.000 You guys have more weather.
02:24:01.000 You have to deal with more shit.
02:24:03.000 You have to band together more.
02:24:05.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:24:07.000 The winter's kind of kept you down a little bit as a country.
02:24:13.000 There's a certain reality that Canada has that the rest of North America doesn't have.
02:24:19.000 In the winter, it can get real crazy.
02:24:23.000 You were saying ice fishing, right?
02:24:27.000 Yeah.
02:24:27.000 You did ice fishing.
02:24:30.000 I didn't do ice fishing, but it was just walking to school was going ice fishing.
02:24:37.000 And by the way, it was the 70s, right?
02:24:40.000 I was born in 1971. So I was walking to school as a five-year-old in 1976. Oh my God, that's crazy.
02:24:49.000 In the winter with a hat on by myself.
02:24:51.000 Wolves are out there.
02:24:52.000 Yeah.
02:24:53.000 Jesus Christ, Tom Green.
02:24:54.000 What if you got eaten by a wolf?
02:24:56.000 Yeah, and look, and Charlie just went to sleep, went right back to sleep.
02:25:00.000 Isn't she such a cute little...
02:25:01.000 She's a sweetie.
02:25:01.000 She's definitely a sweetie pie.
02:25:03.000 She's so loved.
02:25:04.000 You could tell the way she leans into you.
02:25:06.000 That's a loved dog.
02:25:08.000 And so it's a unique situation because of the pandemic and the fact that I've got, you know, we're all isolating and I've got nothing else to do other than go at my van with this new dog.
02:25:18.000 And she was rescued by a rescue from, they're called Thrive in San Diego.
02:25:24.000 And this is what they do.
02:25:26.000 They find dogs in the Caribbean and Mexico.
02:25:30.000 She was born in the Bahamas.
02:25:32.000 And they bring them over.
02:25:34.000 That's dope.
02:25:35.000 And I just, you know...
02:25:36.000 Well, you got a good one, man.
02:25:38.000 She's a little sweetie.
02:25:39.000 It's kind of weird because I just kind of got super lucky because it just sort of happened.
02:25:44.000 I knew I needed a dog because this has been a weird year.
02:25:48.000 I miss having dogs.
02:25:50.000 I didn't have a dog.
02:25:50.000 It's also cool that she's young enough so that you can teach her.
02:25:55.000 Sometimes people adopt dogs and they're grown.
02:25:58.000 And when you adopt a dog and it's grown, it's a more difficult road to kind of train them and get them...
02:26:03.000 So she was three and a half months when I got her.
02:26:06.000 She had actually been rescued by someone else and then they couldn't keep her and I got her at three and a half months.
02:26:11.000 But yeah, she's a very good puppy.
02:26:15.000 I've had Marshall since he was like six weeks old.
02:26:18.000 How old is Marshall?
02:26:21.000 He's almost four.
02:26:23.000 Oh, four.
02:26:23.000 He's the sweetest.
02:26:25.000 I've never had a golden retriever before.
02:26:28.000 Just a different thing.
02:26:30.000 When I see him, we just have this little love session.
02:26:33.000 Me and him.
02:26:36.000 A man-dog love session.
02:26:39.000 Yeah.
02:26:41.000 Charlie has an Instagram.
02:26:42.000 Look at her pictures.
02:26:44.000 Charlie the potcake dog.
02:26:46.000 Charlie is called a potcake dog.
02:26:48.000 What's that?
02:26:49.000 So, she's rescued from the Bahamas.
02:26:51.000 In the Bahamas, they call the street dogs that are running around, the strays, they call them potcake dogs because they go to the local people, cook them, you know, they feed them the burnt rice from the...
02:27:03.000 And that's why they're called potcake dogs.
02:27:05.000 So that's what Charlie is.
02:27:06.000 She's a potcake dog.
02:27:08.000 Steve-O has a dog that has a similar type story, right?
02:27:12.000 Doesn't he?
02:27:12.000 Yes, he does.
02:27:13.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:27:14.000 His dogs hit the lottery, son.
02:27:18.000 What's up, Steve-O? Shout out to Steve-O. Yeah, man, dogs are...
02:27:22.000 It's a really interesting thing because part of me knows that this is a wolf.
02:27:26.000 That was manipulated.
02:27:28.000 Its ancestors are manipulated into this thing.
02:27:30.000 But part of me is like, yeah, but there's nothing I can do about that right now.
02:27:35.000 Like, he's alive right now, so he's my snuggle buddy.
02:27:38.000 I'm like, hello, buddy, hello, buddy.
02:27:41.000 And he puts his paws up in the air and lays on his back and I rub his tummy.
02:27:44.000 I love him.
02:27:45.000 But it is strange.
02:27:49.000 This is not a judgment.
02:27:51.000 This is just an observation.
02:27:52.000 It's so strange that people did this to wolves.
02:27:55.000 They took a wolf and turned it into a French bulldog.
02:27:59.000 A French bulldog came from a wolf.
02:28:01.000 Right, right.
02:28:02.000 A wolf.
02:28:02.000 Right.
02:28:03.000 Well, I mean...
02:28:04.000 There is no justification for that.
02:28:07.000 Well, the wolves cooperated.
02:28:10.000 Yeah.
02:28:11.000 Think about it.
02:28:12.000 Oh, that's a tough one.
02:28:15.000 Well, I don't know.
02:28:15.000 It was probably a lot of fun for them, I'm sure.
02:28:19.000 I don't think we need to...
02:28:21.000 I would think they probably had a lot of fun doing that.
02:28:24.000 Maybe.
02:28:24.000 Why would they not have enjoyed that?
02:28:26.000 Well, they needed food, probably.
02:28:28.000 What I'm saying is I'm trying to come up with a bit.
02:28:32.000 You're being introduced.
02:28:34.000 Hey, German Shepherd, we'd like you to meet this Irish wolfhound.
02:28:39.000 Oh, no, no, I'm not interested in that.
02:28:41.000 No, of course they were interested in that.
02:28:45.000 Okay, now we're getting weird.
02:28:46.000 Okay.
02:28:51.000 Well, I think, like, German Shepherds are tough dogs.
02:28:54.000 Yeah.
02:28:55.000 You know, a Belgian Malinois is a dog that's, like, specifically designed to attack human beings.
02:29:00.000 Like, you ever seen those meat missiles?
02:29:02.000 Those little small, little, they look like German Shepherds, but, like, with dark evil, like, almost demonic eyes.
02:29:09.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:29:10.000 Fuck you up, man, those Belgian Malinois.
02:29:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:29:13.000 But that is a dog that's specifically bred just to attack people.
02:29:16.000 But most dogs are bred to be really nice to people.
02:29:19.000 So you're saying it's unethical that they set animals up with each other like that?
02:29:24.000 Not saying that.
02:29:25.000 It's like manipulative.
02:29:26.000 No.
02:29:27.000 Here's what I'm saying.
02:29:28.000 Okay.
02:29:28.000 If they didn't do it, those fucking things would be eating us.
02:29:33.000 Right.
02:29:33.000 This is what people have to understand.
02:29:34.000 Like, wolves will fucking eat you.
02:29:37.000 Uh-huh.
02:29:37.000 All right?
02:29:37.000 I'm not saying we should kill the wolves.
02:29:39.000 I love wolves.
02:29:40.000 I love the...
02:29:42.000 I had two Siberian Huskies for 15 years, so I basically lived with two wolves.
02:29:47.000 I have a wolf on my phone.
02:29:49.000 Oh my gosh.
02:29:50.000 That's a wolf.
02:29:51.000 Wow, that is...
02:29:52.000 That's my...
02:29:52.000 Wow.
02:29:54.000 Hey, can you pull up a picture of Annie and Steve?
02:29:56.000 I'm fascinated by wolves.
02:29:57.000 Check out for Annie and Steve, I had two dogs that looked like that for 15 years living.
02:30:05.000 Beautiful animal.
02:30:06.000 I'm fascinated by wolves.
02:30:08.000 It's not that I don't like wolves, but the reality of wolves is they would fucking eat you.
02:30:14.000 The reason why we like dogs is because we've gotten dogs into a position where we control them and they're not free.
02:30:23.000 If dogs were free, they would kill you like that person that died today.
02:30:27.000 Who's the person that died today?
02:30:33.000 65-year-old man got attacked and murdered by stray dogs.
02:30:39.000 Where?
02:30:40.000 Today?
02:30:41.000 Where was it?
02:30:41.000 In Tallahassee.
02:30:42.000 Florida.
02:30:43.000 In America.
02:30:43.000 More Florida.
02:30:44.000 Another Florida issue.
02:30:45.000 That's more than one Florida, right?
02:30:47.000 Was that the same Florida he was talking about before?
02:30:49.000 Yes.
02:30:50.000 That's the same story?
02:30:51.000 So we already brought this up.
02:30:52.000 That's how drunk we are.
02:30:54.000 There's Annie and Steve.
02:30:55.000 Those were my dogs for 15 years.
02:30:57.000 Steve on the left in this photo and Annie on the right.
02:31:02.000 And that's in LA. That's up in Burbank.
02:31:05.000 Cool dogs.
02:31:06.000 Yeah, and they were good girls.
02:31:09.000 They were good girls.
02:31:11.000 Dogs are great if you feed them.
02:31:13.000 Yeah.
02:31:14.000 You ever have a feral cat?
02:31:16.000 I've had cats, but I'm not sure if I've had a feral cat.
02:31:18.000 I had a feral cat once.
02:31:19.000 His name is Jack Dempsey, like the boxer.
02:31:21.000 What do you mean that means?
02:31:22.000 Feral, wild.
02:31:23.000 Like you found it, and then you adopted it?
02:31:25.000 Well, my friend Lainey found it as a kitten, and she gave it to me.
02:31:30.000 She captured a bunch of her and her boyfriend, trapped them underneath this house.
02:31:35.000 Okay, and then they raised it.
02:31:36.000 I think my parents found a cat at the side of the road.
02:31:39.000 Lucky.
02:31:40.000 Shout out to Lucky.
02:31:41.000 Shout out to Lucky.
02:31:42.000 Lucky is no longer here.
02:31:43.000 Rest in peace, Lucky.
02:31:44.000 What happened to Lucky?
02:31:45.000 Well, she lived 19 years.
02:31:46.000 She wasn't that lucky.
02:31:47.000 That's Lucky.
02:31:48.000 19 years is very lucky.
02:31:50.000 Good name.
02:31:51.000 It might have been 18 or something.
02:31:53.000 That is fucking old for a cat.
02:31:54.000 And they found her at the side of the road.
02:31:56.000 My mother...
02:31:57.000 Oh, she got hit?
02:31:58.000 My mother married...
02:31:59.000 No, no.
02:32:00.000 Oh, she found her when she was a baby.
02:32:02.000 Yeah.
02:32:02.000 So my parents, Mary Jane Green and Richard, Joe, I want to give a shout out, and to my brother Joe, okay?
02:32:14.000 They found lucky.
02:32:15.000 First of all, I love you guys.
02:32:17.000 Great to see you.
02:32:19.000 My mom and dad and my brother are a strong support system in my life.
02:32:27.000 I love them.
02:32:28.000 They're excited that I'm here.
02:32:30.000 I'm excited that they're excited.
02:32:32.000 Yeah, they are.
02:32:34.000 I am, but it's cool.
02:32:43.000 Here's a funny story.
02:32:45.000 So I talked to my mom on the phone in the van.
02:32:54.000 As I run over Charlie's head with the rolling...
02:32:57.000 No, I... You talk to your mom on the phone?
02:32:59.000 Every day.
02:33:00.000 Every day.
02:33:01.000 Like, I got the phone up and I'm driving.
02:33:05.000 Not every day, but usually when I'm driving and I'm trying to find another spot.
02:33:10.000 It's kind of fun.
02:33:12.000 This is what's cool.
02:33:13.000 The phone is on the speaker.
02:33:15.000 I can call my friends.
02:33:17.000 I'm driving around.
02:33:18.000 I'm talking like, hey, where should I go tonight?
02:33:20.000 And you go look for these places.
02:33:22.000 But my mom, Mary Jane Green.
02:33:23.000 Mary Jane Green, by the way.
02:33:25.000 That's my mother's name.
02:33:27.000 I believe you.
02:33:28.000 Mary Jane Green.
02:33:29.000 Isn't that a great name?
02:33:30.000 It's a great name.
02:33:30.000 Yeah.
02:33:32.000 So, Mary Jane.
02:33:33.000 He's saying it like it's preposterous.
02:33:35.000 Like, there's no way!
02:33:37.000 Are you listening to me?
02:33:38.000 Mary Jane Green.
02:33:39.000 Yeah, she didn't even really, I don't think, make the connection to the weed reference of it until, like, later, you know, like...
02:33:46.000 Did she partake?
02:33:48.000 I don't think my mom was a big Mary Jane Green partaker, actually.
02:33:54.000 But it's funny that her name is Mary Jane Green and she wasn't a big Mary Jane Green partaker.
02:33:58.000 It's almost sad.
02:33:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:34:00.000 Right?
02:34:01.000 Like if she was a pothead, she'd be legendary.
02:34:03.000 Yeah, she was not a pothead.
02:34:06.000 Is she still around?
02:34:07.000 My mom...
02:34:07.000 Your mom's still around?
02:34:08.000 Yeah, my mom is still around.
02:34:09.000 It's not too late.
02:34:10.000 Yeah, that's true.
02:34:11.000 I think we envision a second career for your mom.
02:34:13.000 I could see her being open to it.
02:34:15.000 I want to see your mom with one of them giant LED pot flag chains hanging from her neck, like one of the flashing green pot leaks.
02:34:23.000 It could happen.
02:34:24.000 It could happen.
02:34:26.000 Imagine?
02:34:28.000 It could happen.
02:34:29.000 My mom just flips the script.
02:34:31.000 My mom's really cool.
02:34:32.000 It could happen.
02:34:33.000 I don't think she's...
02:34:35.000 Why wouldn't you start a marijuana company with your mom's name?
02:34:41.000 We've talked about it, but I don't...
02:34:43.000 We've talked about it.
02:34:44.000 Mary Jane Green?
02:34:45.000 Yeah.
02:34:46.000 Salute.
02:34:47.000 Mary Jane Green.
02:34:48.000 Come on.
02:34:49.000 We've talked about it.
02:34:49.000 That shit's perfect.
02:34:50.000 Yeah.
02:34:51.000 Why wouldn't you do it?
02:34:52.000 I don't really know how to do that.
02:34:55.000 You need to contact lawyer people that understand how to make that a reality.
02:35:00.000 I literally don't know how to...
02:35:01.000 You need to get some lawyer folk who know how to...
02:35:02.000 I don't know how to start a marijuana company.
02:35:04.000 Well, you need some venture capital folk and some lawyer folk that know how to navigate the legality.
02:35:11.000 Yeah.
02:35:11.000 Because it's legal in states, but not in all of them.
02:35:15.000 California's legal, though, where you allegedly live.
02:35:18.000 And so, Texas, not legal.
02:35:20.000 Not legal.
02:35:21.000 So then...
02:35:24.000 Yeah.
02:35:24.000 Exactly.
02:35:25.000 But California...
02:35:27.000 Legal.
02:35:28.000 Yeah.
02:35:29.000 Yeah, it's almost worth the taxes.
02:35:33.000 It's like, one way or another, no place is perfect.
02:35:36.000 But it's obviously eventually going to be legal everywhere.
02:35:40.000 It really should be.
02:35:41.000 Within two years and two or three years or something?
02:35:44.000 The only reason why it's not is because we have a distorted idea of what it is.
02:35:48.000 And the quicker it would be made legal, the quicker people would be able to do legitimate research on it and find out why there are these...
02:36:00.000 Adverse reactions that some people have.
02:36:03.000 Because that's the only thing that bothers me.
02:36:05.000 Yeah, but that's not real.
02:36:06.000 But there are certain people that have real issues with pot that other people don't.
02:36:13.000 Oh, okay.
02:36:13.000 Oh, really?
02:36:14.000 Yeah, schizophrenia is one of them.
02:36:16.000 Oh, okay.
02:36:17.000 Yeah, there's a guy, right?
02:36:20.000 He's an author who came on this.
02:36:24.000 He's a journalist.
02:36:25.000 And he came on this podcast to debate Mike Hart, Who is a Canadian doctor that prescribes weed.
02:36:33.000 He does a lot of work with medical marijuana patients.
02:36:38.000 Alex Berenson wrote this book on the dangers of marijuana.
02:36:43.000 It resonates.
02:36:45.000 It sounds very real.
02:36:47.000 We've all known people.
02:36:48.000 I've known three or four people that tell stories about having some experience when they're on edibles and all their friends say they snapped.
02:37:04.000 Do you remember the first time you got high?
02:37:06.000 Do you remember the first time you got high?
02:37:10.000 Not really the first time, but I remember the first time as an adult because I really didn't do it for a long time until I was about 30 and then I started getting high again.
02:37:19.000 But I only got high between 30 and whenever I first started doing it, like a handful of times, like four or five times my whole life until I was 30. I had never smoked.
02:37:28.000 Maybe a little more, but not much.
02:37:29.000 I never smoked marijuana in high school.
02:37:31.000 I was a straight-edge kid.
02:37:34.000 I drank quite a bit, actually, to be honest with you.
02:37:37.000 Standard.
02:37:37.000 Yeah.
02:37:38.000 That's a good kid.
02:37:39.000 Yeah.
02:37:40.000 Out there drinking.
02:37:41.000 Drank a lot.
02:37:43.000 Later in life, though, I discovered it, and it was fun.
02:37:52.000 I think it's very important that kids' brains develop before they get too much of anything.
02:37:58.000 Too much of alcohol, too much of...
02:38:01.000 Marijuana, too much of anything.
02:38:02.000 When you're a kid, that's what's fucked up about this.
02:38:05.000 Like, I don't want to tell anybody what to do.
02:38:06.000 But when you're a kid, and this is like, again, I said that I got drunk for the first time, I was like 15 or 16, like really bad, threw up in a car, in a cab on the way home.
02:38:15.000 Like, I'm...
02:38:17.000 I just don't think...
02:38:18.000 I think there's something that's going on that you can't think of while it's happening with the development of your brain when you're 15 years old.
02:38:28.000 There's a bunch of shit going on that you really don't understand.
02:38:31.000 And I think...
02:38:33.000 In some way, it's up to the people that have gone through it to protect you from the potential negative aspects of all your bad decision making.
02:38:43.000 Absolutely.
02:38:43.000 And that's one of them with drinking and pot and drugs.
02:38:46.000 If you want to tell the kids, look, I know.
02:38:48.000 I don't want to tell you what you can and can't do because I don't want you to develop this need to rebel against me.
02:38:55.000 But you're doing something to your brain before it's done cooking.
02:39:02.000 And you're also doing something that's incredibly difficult for people to manage that are mature, well-developed adults.
02:39:09.000 Give well-developed adults Adderall.
02:39:12.000 A lot of them are not very good at managing that.
02:39:15.000 A lot of them.
02:39:17.000 They get real wacky with Adderall.
02:39:19.000 They start taking it all the time.
02:39:21.000 That's well...
02:39:24.000 Adjusted, educated, with responsibility adults.
02:39:27.000 Right, right.
02:39:28.000 And they can get hooked on Adderall.
02:39:29.000 Okay, okay.
02:39:30.000 What the fuck do you think is going to happen to a 15-year-old that starts drinking or doing coke or smoking pot?
02:39:37.000 Your brain's growing.
02:39:39.000 Yeah, I agree.
02:39:40.000 I'm not even done.
02:39:41.000 I think drinking is a fun act of rebelliousness as a teenager, but maybe that's probably where it should end.
02:39:49.000 I think, in a sense, you'd be better off if you could mentor your children to understand what drinking is and mentor them in a way where you teach them about the dangers of over-drinking.
02:40:01.000 You could do it in a way where you don't even have to get the kids drunk.
02:40:06.000 You just let the kids know, listen, I am a person.
02:40:10.000 You are a person.
02:40:11.000 I am older than you.
02:40:13.000 I'm not better than you.
02:40:14.000 I've just lived longer.
02:40:15.000 I am just trying to tell you for your own safety and good that you need to learn how to do this.
02:40:22.000 Because if you just start drinking with no supervision when you're 21 years old or 18 in some countries, you're going to fuck yourself up.
02:40:30.000 We would both be way better off, me not having to worry about you, and you with understanding the consequences of your actions if we sat down and talked about how to drink.
02:40:40.000 It's a complex thing.
02:40:42.000 It's a complex thing.
02:40:43.000 There's a lot going on.
02:40:44.000 It's not just like you're out in the world, you're inebriated.
02:40:49.000 Absolutely.
02:40:51.000 It's also like physically you've got to know what's the dose.
02:40:54.000 You're a 90-pound woman.
02:40:56.000 You can't drink 18 drinks.
02:40:57.000 Your body's not going to be able to handle it.
02:41:01.000 A 400-pound man has a much larger gap than a person like you or I. They've got a lot more wiggle room for how much alcohol they consume.
02:41:11.000 And you've got to start slow.
02:41:12.000 I definitely figured it out on my own.
02:41:18.000 Which is part of the adventure of life, you know, like having a few bad nights.
02:41:23.000 But yeah, it probably would have been better off to have had a little warning about...
02:41:28.000 For sure.
02:41:29.000 If someone just sat you down and said, Tom, Tom, Tom, look at me.
02:41:33.000 One drink, good.
02:41:34.000 But here's the problem with two drinks and three drinks and four drinks if you have them too quickly.
02:41:38.000 All of a sudden, you don't know what's good and what's bad.
02:41:40.000 All of a sudden, you don't know what's drunk and what's sober.
02:41:43.000 You don't know what's the right move anymore because you're fucked up.
02:41:46.000 And when you're fucked up, you don't know what to do.
02:41:48.000 So you've got to avoid getting fucked up.
02:41:50.000 You've got to get to the point where you're having a good time, a little chatty, having fun, social lubricant.
02:41:57.000 Right.
02:41:58.000 And don't...
02:41:59.000 Because if you're, you know...
02:42:04.000 I mean, most people just get lucky and nothing that bad happens.
02:42:07.000 But, you know, you lose control when you're so, yeah, absolutely.
02:42:10.000 You could certainly think about it that way.
02:42:12.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:42:13.000 But also you could think about it's just like...
02:42:14.000 Something bad could happen to anybody, though.
02:42:17.000 For sure.
02:42:17.000 So you need to be aware.
02:42:18.000 Like, hey, you got to be careful.
02:42:19.000 You can't be going to run around just like...
02:42:21.000 Yeah.
02:42:21.000 You don't know what you're doing.
02:42:22.000 Drinking whiskey all night, you know?
02:42:23.000 And talking shit on a podcast.
02:42:25.000 Something bad's going to happen.
02:42:27.000 Well, you don't know what's going on anymore.
02:42:29.000 Cheers to that, though.
02:42:30.000 All of a sudden you're a fucking...
02:42:33.000 Oh, a whiskey robot.
02:42:36.000 When you're a 15-year-old kid, the first time you get drunk, you have no experience to draw from.
02:42:41.000 You don't have a lot of these under your belt.
02:42:44.000 Like, oh, been there before.
02:42:46.000 The first time you ever get drunk, I wish I could really clearly remember it.
02:42:50.000 I can.
02:42:51.000 I can remember mine.
02:42:52.000 Can you?
02:42:52.000 Tell me.
02:42:53.000 So I can remember.
02:42:55.000 So when I was in Ottawa, Canada, what's up, Ottawa?
02:43:01.000 We would go in high school to these things called pubs.
02:43:07.000 Why do you say things called pubs?
02:43:09.000 You speak in some strange language that no one understands.
02:43:12.000 It wasn't a bar.
02:43:13.000 It wasn't an actual pub.
02:43:15.000 What was it?
02:43:16.000 It was like somebody would rent out a community center and they'd be selling...
02:43:21.000 You could go buy beer, but you're 15. You're underage.
02:43:27.000 And they called them pubs.
02:43:29.000 And all the kids went there.
02:43:31.000 It was a loophole or was it illegal?
02:43:34.000 It was illegal, yeah.
02:43:35.000 Yeah, it was illegal.
02:43:36.000 So it was pubs.
02:43:38.000 It was pubs.
02:43:40.000 That was Ottawa, Canada.
02:43:41.000 We'd go down to Vanier.
02:43:43.000 What's up, Vanier?
02:43:44.000 Vanier's part of town in Ottawa.
02:43:46.000 We'd go down there, and all the kids from all the high schools would go down there, and you could buy a beer for a dollar or something like that.
02:43:52.000 When you're saying this, you know what I see in my head?
02:43:54.000 Yeah.
02:43:54.000 Snow.
02:43:55.000 Oh, it was so cold.
02:43:56.000 I see cold weather and slush and wet boots.
02:43:59.000 We would take the OC Transpo, Ottawa-Carlton Transpo bus, down through the snow and to get to this part of town, Vanier, to go...
02:44:10.000 First of all, I want to say, Joe, first of all, I love you, man.
02:44:15.000 I love you, too.
02:44:16.000 I love you, man.
02:44:17.000 I love you, too.
02:44:18.000 Thank you for...
02:44:19.000 Thank you for being here, man.
02:44:21.000 And I want to shout out Vanier because...
02:44:24.000 Shout out to Vanier.
02:44:25.000 Yeah, it's so cool.
02:44:27.000 Everybody in Ottawa knows Vanier is this great place.
02:44:33.000 I grew up basically very close to there.
02:44:40.000 It's cool.
02:44:42.000 Ottawa.
02:44:43.000 Yeah.
02:44:44.000 No, but it's cold as hell up there, man.
02:44:49.000 It's really cold.
02:44:49.000 Yeah, I envision slushy boots.
02:44:52.000 You tell me that story, I was thinking, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
02:44:56.000 Everyone's cold.
02:44:57.000 Fingers are numb.
02:44:58.000 Wait, Google this.
02:45:00.000 Check this out.
02:45:01.000 Google this.
02:45:01.000 Jamie, can I ask you to show a photo of something?
02:45:04.000 No.
02:45:05.000 Is that cool?
02:45:06.000 Cougar boots.
02:45:08.000 Cougar boots.
02:45:08.000 Cougar boots.
02:45:09.000 You don't mean cougar like the 40-year-old mom trying to get some young dick?
02:45:15.000 Not talking about that one.
02:45:16.000 You sure?
02:45:17.000 No, I'm talking about cougar boots.
02:45:18.000 They're made out of cougars?
02:45:20.000 No.
02:45:21.000 So this is my experience as a kid, growing up in Canada, in the freezing Canada.
02:45:27.000 This is what was on my feet.
02:45:29.000 That one, on the brown one, the light brown one, that one.
02:45:32.000 That looks comfy.
02:45:33.000 Yeah, they were comfy.
02:45:34.000 And they're like, it's not leather, they're like vinyl boots.
02:45:39.000 And that was, so when I was in the...
02:45:41.000 Is this an ad?
02:45:43.000 Are you doing a Cougar Boots ad?
02:45:44.000 Does not exist anymore.
02:45:46.000 No, no.
02:45:47.000 That's like Atari 2600 style.
02:45:51.000 That's like 1992 or something.
02:45:53.000 That seems like it could come back.
02:45:55.000 We can get retro right now with like Olivia Newton-John, let's get physical type ankle puffy things.
02:46:00.000 I've just saw the white ones before.
02:46:04.000 There's some things you can bring back today.
02:46:06.000 I think people are ripe.
02:46:07.000 They're ready for headbands.
02:46:09.000 Joe, man.
02:46:10.000 Joe, you can bring...
02:46:10.000 People are ready for some weird shit.
02:46:12.000 Oh, yeah.
02:46:14.000 I bet you do.
02:46:15.000 I need to get that sweat out.
02:46:15.000 I bet you do.
02:46:16.000 I bet you do.
02:46:18.000 Okay, can I show you something cool about Canadian, weird Canadian stuff that I think you'll appreciate?
02:46:23.000 You don't have to ask.
02:46:24.000 Just tell me.
02:46:26.000 Check out the NABU Network.
02:46:29.000 NABU? NABU, yeah.
02:46:30.000 Check that out.
02:46:31.000 What is it?
02:46:32.000 So in the 80s, we had the internet in Ottawa before anybody.
02:46:37.000 Yeah, the 80s?
02:46:37.000 What?
02:46:38.000 You had the internet in the 80s?
02:46:39.000 Yeah.
02:46:40.000 Really?
02:46:40.000 It wasn't the internet.
02:46:41.000 It was called the NABU Network.
02:46:42.000 What is it?
02:46:43.000 Oh yeah, there's Doug Henning.
02:46:45.000 The magician Doug Henning did a commercial for it.
02:46:48.000 Well, what is it?
02:46:49.000 So, it was a network that was run through the cable television system, but it was the internet, basically.
02:46:54.000 What?
02:46:54.000 And everybody could talk to each other.
02:46:56.000 Yeah, switch on to smart TV. It was, like, way earlier than it was anything else.
02:47:00.000 You talked to people, like, in a text message to a keyboard?
02:47:02.000 Yeah, but they had video games on there, too.
02:47:04.000 You had arcade quality.
02:47:05.000 You had Dig Dug.
02:47:06.000 You had, like, all these, like, Dig Dug's the one that comes to mind.
02:47:09.000 But you had Track and Field, you know, the one where you gotta just shake the fucking...
02:47:12.000 Yeah.
02:47:12.000 Yeah.
02:47:13.000 Really?
02:47:13.000 Yeah, and all that.
02:47:14.000 And so, Naboo, there it is.
02:47:16.000 See, there's the logo there.
02:47:17.000 The blue logo, right down there.
02:47:18.000 That's it.
02:47:19.000 That's it.
02:47:20.000 That's it.
02:47:20.000 That was like Ottawa Rewind.
02:47:22.000 Check it out.
02:47:23.000 Ah, Coke-Fueled!
02:47:25.000 The untold story of Ottawa's Coke-Fueled 1980s.
02:47:29.000 I didn't know Ottawa was so edgy with the Coke-Fueled 1980s.
02:47:31.000 Oh my god, that's the Coke-Fueled 1980s video game industry.
02:47:35.000 Wow!
02:47:35.000 That's what I'm saying, though.
02:47:37.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:47:38.000 Wait, but hold on.
02:47:39.000 I didn't partake in that part of it, but I mean, I wish I had, but it sounds like it was pretty fun.
02:47:44.000 If somebody writes a story about this podcast, they're going to say marijuana and alcohol-fueled Blank.
02:47:51.000 Yeah, absolutely.
02:47:52.000 Yeah, that's what they do.
02:47:53.000 And I hope they do.
02:47:53.000 This is rude.
02:47:54.000 These people, they worked hard to make these video games.
02:47:56.000 Don't blame it on Coke.
02:47:58.000 Coke-fueled.
02:47:59.000 No, exactly.
02:47:59.000 You can't stay on Coke, you assholes.
02:48:01.000 You can't say it's all Coke-fueled.
02:48:03.000 You know what it's like if you're on Coke all day long?
02:48:06.000 I don't, but...
02:48:07.000 I don't either.
02:48:08.000 I'm asking you.
02:48:08.000 I was hoping you had an answer.
02:48:09.000 I actually don't...
02:48:10.000 It's funny, because I'm not a drug...
02:48:12.000 I don't do a lot of drugs.
02:48:14.000 That guy looks like he's on Coke.
02:48:15.000 Look at that picture.
02:48:17.000 I mean, I would try drugs if it was allowed to do drugs, but...
02:48:21.000 If that guy shakes your hand, you want to go to the gym.
02:48:23.000 Wait, who is that?
02:48:24.000 No, but here's the thing.
02:48:25.000 Here's the thing.
02:48:26.000 Here's the thing, Joe.
02:48:27.000 It was pretty cool.
02:48:28.000 It was interesting.
02:48:30.000 It was like...
02:48:32.000 You had a box that you would plug into the cable.
02:48:35.000 It sounds cool.
02:48:36.000 The cable TV. So my dad, Richard Green, Dick Green, okay?
02:48:43.000 Mary Jane Green and Dick Green hanging out.
02:48:45.000 Dick and Mary Jane.
02:48:47.000 Do you know how crazy that is?
02:48:47.000 You're not even a real person, are you?
02:48:49.000 You're like a CIA plant.
02:48:51.000 No one has the parents Dick and Mary Jane Green.
02:48:54.000 That's right.
02:48:58.000 What games did you play?
02:48:59.000 Did you play Pong?
02:49:01.000 The first might be the best.
02:49:02.000 I remember playing Pong for the first time.
02:49:04.000 To this day, Pong hangs in there.
02:49:07.000 By the way, can I say something about my dad for a second?
02:49:11.000 You certainly can.
02:49:12.000 My dad, Dick Green, was a tank commander.
02:49:18.000 Okay?
02:49:19.000 Captain, Canadian Army.
02:49:21.000 Alright?
02:49:22.000 And won the NATO... Like artillery, like armored corps, like best shot, you know, like competition in Germany against everybody,
02:49:37.000 Americans, Germans, everybody, firing a tank.
02:49:41.000 Like when you're a kid growing up and your dad's like, oh yeah, what did you do?
02:49:45.000 Oh, I was a tank captain, right?
02:49:48.000 Right.
02:49:49.000 And he won.
02:49:50.000 He won.
02:49:51.000 My dad actually did this.
02:49:52.000 Richard Greene won this tank shooting competition for NATO, for Canada, right?
02:50:02.000 Beat all the other, yeah, pretty sure.
02:50:07.000 Pretty sure.
02:50:08.000 I mean, I want to give you the example.
02:50:10.000 Again, I see snow.
02:50:11.000 I see wet boots.
02:50:12.000 We all have coffee in our hands.
02:50:14.000 We're listening to this story.
02:50:15.000 It's true.
02:50:15.000 I want you to Google it.
02:50:16.000 I believe you.
02:50:17.000 Tom, I believe you.
02:50:19.000 Sometimes people shoot better than other people do, and then they win awards.
02:50:21.000 I lived in Petawawa.
02:50:24.000 CFB Petawawa.
02:50:26.000 Canadian Forces-based Petawawa was where I grew up.
02:50:29.000 This thing that your dad won, can you explain how it worked?
02:50:32.000 Yeah, they would go out with the tanks and they would shoot at targets that were at different ranges.
02:50:39.000 And your dad was just a wizard at it?
02:50:42.000 He won.
02:50:43.000 He's the plaque at the house.
02:50:44.000 Won the NATO, it was like 1971 or something?
02:50:47.000 No, no, before it, 68 or something.
02:50:50.000 My father went to Vietnam.
02:50:52.000 My father was in Vietnam with the Canadian Army as peacekeepers.
02:50:58.000 Does he have, is your dad still alive?
02:51:01.000 Yes, he is, yeah.
02:51:01.000 Does he have problems hearing?
02:51:04.000 A little bit, yeah.
02:51:05.000 Yeah.
02:51:06.000 A little bit, but he's...
02:51:07.000 Firing off those guns, man.
02:51:09.000 Boom!
02:51:10.000 Boom!
02:51:11.000 Boom!
02:51:11.000 Yeah.
02:51:12.000 Boom!
02:51:12.000 Yeah.
02:51:13.000 You know, um...
02:51:13.000 My dad has hearing aids, actually, yeah.
02:51:16.000 It took a while before people realized the negative impact of firearms.
02:51:21.000 Yeah, my father was hearing it for sure, yeah.
02:51:22.000 All my friends, though, that grew up with guns that are my age, they didn't understand hearing protection back then.
02:51:28.000 Right, absolutely.
02:51:29.000 Nor did rock and roll stars.
02:51:31.000 I mean, how many rock stars have serious ear problems?
02:51:35.000 Absolutely.
02:51:36.000 Isn't that crazy?
02:51:37.000 Like, the thing you love is destroying your ears.
02:51:43.000 We just didn't know.
02:51:46.000 We just didn't know.
02:51:49.000 I have earplugs in my life.
02:51:55.000 In my life, earplugs are part of my life.
02:51:59.000 Okay, what percentage of your life are worn earplugs?
02:52:02.000 Jamie.
02:52:04.000 Earplugs are part of my life, man.
02:52:09.000 Well, now, because you're aware.
02:52:10.000 I have over-the-ear headphones, and I have internal ear orange.
02:52:17.000 What I'm getting at is people like your dad and people that grew up before they really understood.
02:52:23.000 I've never even thought about that, actually, until now, that you mentioned that.
02:52:27.000 It's a big problem.
02:52:28.000 Big problem with rock stars.
02:52:30.000 Lead singer of ACDC recently had a step down, right?
02:52:34.000 Isn't that still correct?
02:52:35.000 Is he...
02:52:38.000 Let's see if we can...
02:52:40.000 It's a real problem for rock stars, man.
02:52:44.000 Yeah.
02:52:45.000 When rock stars get old, they develop like real problems with their ears.
02:52:48.000 I mean, you got to think about being like fucking Gene Simmons and how thousands and thousands and thousands of concerts.
02:52:55.000 Yeah.
02:52:56.000 You know?
02:52:56.000 He's actually back.
02:52:57.000 He has hearing aids now.
02:52:59.000 Oh, wow.
02:53:00.000 They fixed his ears.
02:53:01.000 Who?
02:53:02.000 Put up the story.
02:53:02.000 Who did?
02:53:03.000 Brian Johnson.
02:53:05.000 He's the lead singer of ACDC, son.
02:53:07.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
02:53:08.000 Oh, they put a new album out, right?
02:53:10.000 Overcame hearing issues and returned to ACDC. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:53:13.000 Wow.
02:53:14.000 So they gave them some earpieces.
02:53:17.000 Well, that's good news.
02:53:18.000 Because that's a bummer, man.
02:53:20.000 Imagine, like, you're a fucking rock star and the one thing you can't do is go out there and rock.
02:53:25.000 And not only that, you're the lead singer of ACDC. You know?
02:53:30.000 I mean, that's a wild-ass band.
02:53:32.000 Yeah.
02:53:33.000 Probably one of the greatest rock and roll bands ever, right?
02:53:37.000 I mean, when you think about, like, if you're, like, right on, like, a piece of paper, rock and roll, and then you put under it, you put the ACDC logo.
02:53:45.000 Yeah.
02:53:50.000 Oh, that's right.
02:53:52.000 That's right.
02:53:53.000 Rolling Stones.
02:53:54.000 Back in Black.
02:53:55.000 God damn, that's a good song.
02:53:58.000 The problem is you've heard it so many times.
02:54:03.000 You don't ever get to hear it with fresh ears.
02:54:06.000 But if you can go and listen to Back in Black the first time.
02:54:09.000 I remember the first time I heard it.
02:54:10.000 I guess I was in high school.
02:54:13.000 Somewhere around then?
02:54:14.000 I mean, when did Back in Black come out?
02:54:18.000 What year?
02:54:18.000 Take a guess.
02:54:19.000 83?
02:54:20.000 No, that must have been...
02:54:22.000 Oh, was it not 79 or 80?
02:54:24.000 I'm fucking wildly guessing.
02:54:25.000 I don't know.
02:54:26.000 Probably early 80s, late 70s.
02:54:27.000 I didn't discover it until I was in high school.
02:54:28.000 Early 80s or late 70s?
02:54:29.000 80. Okay, 80. So split the difference.
02:54:33.000 We were both kind of in the middle.
02:54:34.000 It's that music for the time when I first heard it.
02:54:37.000 I was like, holy shit.
02:54:39.000 Da-dum, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum, da-dum.
02:54:43.000 You were like, holy shit!
02:54:45.000 It had so much impact.
02:54:47.000 When you listen to songs, like even from songs, like I couldn't imagine what it would have been like to hear Hendrix the first time.
02:54:53.000 Right.
02:54:54.000 Like that's a very famous interaction.
02:54:56.000 Because you're talking about, at that point you're talking about like...
02:55:02.000 Pure genius, too.
02:55:03.000 Well, they hadn't even thought about the idea of being aggressive yet with music.
02:55:07.000 Right.
02:55:07.000 Well, he was pure genius.
02:55:09.000 Yeah.
02:55:09.000 Pure.
02:55:10.000 Like, this weird guitarist.
02:55:10.000 Before it was all, let's be nice with the music.
02:55:14.000 All of a sudden, it's like, aggressive.
02:55:15.000 I'm angry.
02:55:16.000 Well, it was also...
02:55:18.000 Was there anger in...
02:55:19.000 Well, no.
02:55:19.000 I don't know if you would even say...
02:55:22.000 Angry.
02:55:23.000 Just energetic.
02:55:24.000 I don't know if you need to say angry.
02:55:26.000 I think what Hendrix did was...
02:55:28.000 You could kind of call some of it aggressive, but more, I would say, energetic.
02:55:34.000 His energy was just different.
02:55:37.000 He would play the sounds.
02:55:39.000 People have a way of making the guitar sound.
02:55:43.000 It's so interesting.
02:55:44.000 It's almost like...
02:55:45.000 They're using their voice or something.
02:55:47.000 There's a sound that you can make with a guitar that other folks can't make.
02:55:52.000 So, yeah, well, I mean, yeah, so, in my opinion, some people are like...
02:55:58.000 Are we cheering again?
02:55:58.000 Yeah.
02:55:59.000 Cheers.
02:56:00.000 In my opinion, some people are, like, kind of, like, in the moment more, and they're not thinking...
02:56:05.000 It's like what we've talked about tonight with, you know, with your show and your incredible success in this show.
02:56:13.000 Like, Jimi Hendrix had that same kind of energy where he, like...
02:56:19.000 Didn't want to play it the way everybody was supposed to be playing the guitar.
02:56:25.000 He just wanted to fucking put his energy into it.
02:56:30.000 Yeah, and he played the way he wanted to.
02:56:33.000 I don't know how to play guitar at all.
02:56:35.000 But someone told me, Jamie, did he play guitar backwards or something?
02:56:39.000 Like he had the other hand?
02:56:41.000 Left-handed, yeah.
02:56:41.000 Yeah, but he played it with his right hand?
02:56:44.000 I'm not sure how weird.
02:56:45.000 I think they made a special guitar, so he played it opposite.
02:56:48.000 He played it weird.
02:56:50.000 He's just a genius.
02:56:51.000 He just figured it out in a way.
02:56:52.000 But there's certain people that come along where you listen to their shit.
02:56:56.000 You listen to Voodoo Child and you're like, oh my god.
02:57:01.000 You listen to him play that song and you go, oh my god, this guy's in some place that no guitarist has ever been.
02:57:07.000 And he's like inventing...
02:57:13.000 Rock and roll in a lot of ways.
02:57:15.000 Those guitar solos that we hear in every song as we were growing up was all people being inspired by that.
02:57:22.000 Fuck yeah.
02:57:23.000 Fuck yeah.
02:57:24.000 There's always going to be a guy that's at the head of the pack and he's that guy.
02:57:29.000 He still to this day is that guy.
02:57:31.000 That's the craziest thing about Hendrix.
02:57:33.000 If you stop and think about Hendrix, today, there's some brilliant guitarists, there's no doubt.
02:57:39.000 But when people today think about amazing rock and roll guitar, you think Jimi Hendrix.
02:57:46.000 In 2020, you just do.
02:57:49.000 It doesn't discredit all the great guitarists that are alive today.
02:57:52.000 When you think about the guitar, you think about Jimi Hendrix.
02:57:55.000 Voodoo Child, when it first came out, must have blown people's minds.
02:58:00.000 Was it like 69?
02:58:02.000 When did Voodoo Child Slight Return come out?
02:58:05.000 He did two versions.
02:58:06.000 He did a Voodoo Child that was like a bluesy, slow version.
02:58:10.000 It's really cool and spooky.
02:58:11.000 It came out in 68. 68. Have you ever heard the statement that, like, I've heard it multiple times, but more specifically with Jimi Hendrix, that he existed in a world where he never could hear Jimi Hendrix play guitar.
02:58:23.000 Oh my gosh!
02:58:24.000 Because he was Jimi Hendrix.
02:58:25.000 Whoa, that's so deep!
02:58:28.000 Of course.
02:58:29.000 Wait, wait, wait.
02:58:30.000 Did someone say that?
02:58:31.000 I've heard it said.
02:58:32.000 I've heard it, I think, a couple other times about other people, but it sticks out with him.
02:58:37.000 He got to...
02:58:38.000 Well, I bet he did get to see Jimi Hendrix play guitar.
02:58:41.000 That's the thing.
02:58:42.000 That guy was on so much shit.
02:58:44.000 That's probably how he got to see Jimi Hendrix play guitar.
02:58:48.000 Probably got to see him from some LSD dimension.
02:58:54.000 Many feet away from his carbon-based body.
02:58:58.000 But let's not forget, of course, I mean, for me, because I'm, you know, like 49, am I? You tell me.
02:59:08.000 How old are you now, John?
02:59:09.000 53. Are you really?
02:59:11.000 Yes.
02:59:13.000 On my way to death.
02:59:16.000 Halfway there, if I'm lucky.
02:59:19.000 They're coming out with new, weird shit that they're doing in people's bodies that I have a feeling they're going to be able to extend life far beyond what we think of as the threshold.
02:59:30.000 We just have to survive past the threshold.
02:59:33.000 There was something someone sent me today.
02:59:35.000 A study that showed that hyperbaric chambers with oxygen therapy.
02:59:41.000 Did you see that?
02:59:42.000 I saw it last night.
02:59:43.000 You saw it?
02:59:43.000 I figured you'd see it.
02:59:44.000 Yeah.
02:59:45.000 Hyperbaric chambers.
02:59:46.000 I think it's hyperbaric, right?
02:59:47.000 With oxygen.
02:59:47.000 With oxygen.
02:59:49.000 Lowered people's biological age by 20 years.
02:59:54.000 I don't know.
02:59:54.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
02:59:55.000 Yes.
02:59:55.000 90 days, 5 days a week.
02:59:58.000 Wait, wait, wait.
02:59:58.000 90 minutes of treatment.
03:00:00.000 Wait, wait, wait.
03:00:00.000 He's talking.
03:00:00.000 Hold on, let us know.
03:00:02.000 Say what you said, Jamie.
03:00:03.000 It's like, for 90 days, they did five days a week, 90 minutes of treatment, and within that time period, I think a lot of these people were 65 and older, had, however they measure it with telomeres and all that, 20% or 25 years, someone in there,
03:00:19.000 younger.
03:00:19.000 I think it was 20 years younger.
03:00:22.000 It's 20%.
03:00:23.000 20%.
03:00:24.000 And 25 years earlier.
03:00:26.000 20% and 25 years.
03:00:31.000 You know what telomeres are?
03:00:33.000 It's an indication of your biological age, or at least one of the markers.
03:00:38.000 And the idea is that as the telomeres shrink and shorten, as you get older, they shorten.
03:00:43.000 And if you can figure out a way to lengthen your telomeres and actually lengthen your life.
03:00:47.000 I am way too stupid to know if that's exactly true.
03:00:51.000 But I do know that it's something that people like Dr. David Sinclair, and there's a lot of like...
03:00:57.000 People that really concentrate on science and its effect on telomeres and measuring telomeres, they think it's a critical part of aging and anti-aging.
03:01:07.000 So if something can come along like this where you can get into a hyperbaric chamber and for 90 days drop your biological age 20 years, we got ourselves a shark tank business, bitch!
03:01:21.000 Let's show up.
03:01:22.000 All of us dressed in fur coats.
03:01:24.000 Who wants to live forever?
03:01:25.000 Come on, boys.
03:01:26.000 Is it possible?
03:01:27.000 I don't know.
03:01:28.000 I'm a moron.
03:01:29.000 I would imagine those smart people.
03:01:31.000 I know you say that on the show, and I don't like when you say that.
03:01:34.000 You should like it.
03:01:35.000 I'm being honest.
03:01:35.000 I'm a moron.
03:01:36.000 No, you're not.
03:01:37.000 In comparison to the people that lengthen telomeres, I'm a moron.
03:01:40.000 There's levels to this game.
03:01:41.000 Don't say that.
03:01:41.000 There's levels to this.
03:01:43.000 That's just true.
03:01:45.000 Listen to me.
03:01:46.000 I'm an honest person.
03:01:47.000 I'm an honest person.
03:01:48.000 I am definitely a moron.
03:01:49.000 You gotta trust me.
03:01:50.000 I'm just not dumber than everybody.
03:01:52.000 I appreciate that you're being humble, but you are not a moron.
03:01:56.000 No, I'm telling you, I'm a moron.
03:01:57.000 I've met people that are really, really fucking smart.
03:01:59.000 It's like, you know how people...
03:02:01.000 You know there's something that you know how to do.
03:02:03.000 You've met people that are really smart.
03:02:06.000 You're smarter than them.
03:02:07.000 No, I know people that are actually smart.
03:02:09.000 You're smarter than them.
03:02:10.000 No, I'm not.
03:02:11.000 Yeah.
03:02:12.000 You're smarter than most people.
03:02:13.000 Dude, you're so wrong.
03:02:15.000 And it's been frustrating for you, probably.
03:02:15.000 You gotta trust me.
03:02:17.000 No.
03:02:17.000 Because you're smarter than most people.
03:02:18.000 You're very, very, very, very hyper-no.
03:02:21.000 No, I'm crazy.
03:02:21.000 I'm trying to tell you.
03:02:22.000 There's smart people and there's crazy people.
03:02:24.000 Crazy people don't have as many fears and they get more shit done because they're not worried about the consequences.
03:02:31.000 Smart people figure out how to fix things.
03:02:33.000 Those are the smart people.
03:02:37.000 Isn't there something you do that someone doesn't really do and they think they're good at it and you get a little annoyed?
03:02:44.000 Say maybe there's a sport that you've done for a long time and someone just picks it up and they think they can kick ass at it.
03:02:49.000 I don't know.
03:02:52.000 Not really.
03:02:52.000 I'm not that good at anything.
03:02:54.000 You should think about that with intelligence, too.
03:02:56.000 Because there's people that barely, people like myself, that barely work at being smarter.
03:03:02.000 Barely work at being smarter.
03:03:03.000 Barely.
03:03:04.000 And to compare them to people whose entire lives are based on intellectual discipline is rude.
03:03:11.000 And there's a difference.
03:03:12.000 Because you're talking to all these incredible people that literally are...
03:03:18.000 Really thinking about really complex ideas at a level that is kind of not really easy to explain to the average person.
03:03:27.000 So you can't put that in a box and send it out there.
03:03:30.000 Well, that's where Neil deGrasse Tyson is so important, right?
03:03:32.000 Because he's a guy who's really good at taking those insanely complex ideas about the cosmos and explaining them in a way that you can grasp if you have a regular person.
03:03:43.000 High school education.
03:03:45.000 You can grasp what he's saying.
03:03:46.000 So he'll resonate with people 15 to 50 to 55,000 years old.
03:03:53.000 I follow him on Twitter.
03:03:56.000 I love him.
03:03:57.000 I've never met him.
03:03:59.000 What do you think is the oldest that people will ever figure out how to make people?
03:04:03.000 I was joking about 55,000, but do you think there's ever going to be a time where people can live 1,000 years?
03:04:08.000 Oh yeah, for sure.
03:04:10.000 Within our lifetime, you think?
03:04:11.000 No.
03:04:12.000 Would you want to?
03:04:14.000 Imagine how bored you'd be 800 years in dealing with 20-year-olds.
03:04:19.000 I'm bored.
03:04:20.000 Imagine if you had a 20-year-old son, you're 800, and he's fucking crazy.
03:04:25.000 I was going to say I'm bored now, but I'm not bored now because I'm sitting here with you.
03:04:30.000 Cheers.
03:04:31.000 I'm not bored now.
03:04:33.000 I'm not bored either.
03:04:33.000 I think you could tell me that like a thousand years...
03:04:37.000 Yeah, I mean, eventually we might run out of stuff to talk about.
03:04:41.000 This is my thought.
03:04:43.000 I mean, I don't know if I want to live to be a thousand.
03:04:44.000 After a thousand years, it's like, okay, we've talked about the absurdity of this or that enough times.
03:04:50.000 Maybe people figure it out after a thousand years.
03:04:53.000 Michelle Wolf was telling me yesterday that, I didn't know, was it FDR? Wait, wait, wait, wait.
03:04:58.000 Served three terms?
03:04:59.000 Wait, Michelle Wolf yesterday?
03:05:01.000 Yeah.
03:05:02.000 Was it FDR? She is so hilarious.
03:05:05.000 Love her.
03:05:06.000 I love her.
03:05:07.000 That's so cool.
03:05:08.000 She's awesome.
03:05:08.000 So she was in Austin yesterday?
03:05:09.000 Yeah, she was in Austin with Chappelle.
03:05:11.000 Oh, wow.
03:05:12.000 That's so cool.
03:05:13.000 I think she said it was FDR, served three terms.
03:05:16.000 Yes.
03:05:16.000 Yes.
03:05:17.000 Yeah, I was like, I did not know that.
03:05:19.000 So she was saying that's one of the reasons why he was able to get so much shit done.
03:05:24.000 Like, that makes sense.
03:05:25.000 That's interesting.
03:05:27.000 He actually won four elections, though.
03:05:30.000 He won four elections?
03:05:32.000 At the very top of his Wikipedia, it says a member of the Democratic Party, he won a record four presidential elections.
03:05:38.000 Whoa.
03:05:39.000 What does that mean?
03:05:39.000 So you can do one and then come back a couple years later and do another one?
03:05:42.000 How many years were they back then?
03:05:44.000 Because three doesn't make sense if it's ten years.
03:05:47.000 Because I think she was saying he served for ten years.
03:05:53.000 I'm trying to remember this.
03:05:54.000 This is part of the history thing.
03:05:56.000 I think he was the vice president for one president.
03:05:58.000 So he stepped in and finished out one, then won the next election, and then won another one.
03:06:04.000 There's so few people that can hold that office and not make you worry that they got it.
03:06:14.000 I go, oh, he's got it.
03:06:15.000 That guy's got it.
03:06:16.000 There's a few guys in their office.
03:06:18.000 Say whatever you want about Bill Clinton.
03:06:21.000 When Bill Clinton was the goddamn president of the United States of America, you might have thought he was doing creepy shit and running around getting his dick sucked and madness and maybe even a few people got offed.
03:06:31.000 I didn't think about any of that back then.
03:06:34.000 That's all come up in recent years.
03:06:36.000 Back then we weren't even thinking about that shit.
03:06:38.000 I felt like you had it.
03:06:40.000 He's so smart.
03:06:41.000 Bill Clinton is so clever with words.
03:06:44.000 It's nice when you feel like, okay, somebody's looking after everything.
03:06:49.000 So we can go tell jokes and do podcasts.
03:06:54.000 It's nice when you feel like someone smarter than you has the wheel.
03:06:58.000 That's the problem.
03:07:00.000 The people that have the wheel are not smarter than you.
03:07:02.000 You're like, fuck!
03:07:03.000 Fuck!
03:07:03.000 Well, you know, sometimes they are smarter than you and sometimes they're not, you know, and it goes back and forth.
03:07:10.000 And you just got to accept it?
03:07:13.000 It's pretty bizarre when you get to our age and you realize, oh my gosh, they're just like those...
03:07:19.000 You know, like when you talked about you go to the show and there's people with the clipboards around and everybody's around.
03:07:25.000 There's a lot of that.
03:07:26.000 That's how the world runs.
03:07:27.000 Well, there's a lot of people that want to be leaders that maybe probably shouldn't be, but in their head, they want to be.
03:07:32.000 It's just the world's run the same way.
03:07:34.000 So it's a bunch of people sitting around trying to like...
03:07:38.000 I don't know.
03:07:40.000 What are you going to do?
03:07:43.000 I'm trying to ignore it, Joe.
03:07:45.000 I honestly am.
03:07:45.000 I'm trying to ignore it.
03:07:46.000 And I'll say this...
03:07:52.000 Yeah, no, let me say this, for real.
03:07:54.000 I like how you just re-braced yourself, changed your posture.
03:07:59.000 For real, for real, because what I'm doing right now is like...
03:08:00.000 Move your shirt over and everything.
03:08:01.000 No, yeah, for sure, for sure.
03:08:03.000 Okay.
03:08:04.000 No, I mean, like, you know, we just have to, you know, I'm traveling around in my van with my dog, who's...
03:08:11.000 Chopper?
03:08:13.000 Chopper, who's gone to sleep.
03:08:15.000 What a great dog, right?
03:08:16.000 She's awesome.
03:08:17.000 She's gone to sleep and we're having a great time.
03:08:25.000 I'm trying to be positive.
03:08:28.000 There's been so much negativity in our world in the last few years.
03:08:36.000 Told, oh, I gotta think this way or I gotta think this way.
03:08:39.000 And there's this anger towards each other.
03:08:42.000 I think, you know, this election, more people voted than ever voted.
03:08:48.000 You know that?
03:08:48.000 Yeah.
03:08:49.000 Yeah, it's crazy, right?
03:08:51.000 I'm hoping that also sets a trend in motion where more people are running for office that maybe could...
03:09:04.000 Have a better idea of what people want than what they're experiencing right now.
03:09:11.000 I think you are a big part of this show.
03:09:14.000 That's not helpful.
03:09:18.000 I really do, though.
03:09:20.000 I really do.
03:09:21.000 I think you are a big part of this.
03:09:24.000 Only for people who listen, and that's not a big part of the world.
03:09:29.000 No, I think it is a big part, and I think it's an important part, because I think that...
03:09:33.000 You know, listen, like...
03:09:37.000 Let's just be good to each other.
03:09:38.000 Let's all be positive and be good to each other.
03:09:41.000 I know, it sounds so cliche, right?
03:09:43.000 But it really is the way to do it.
03:09:45.000 You don't have to be embarrassed about being good to your fellow man.
03:09:49.000 But we're all worried that other people aren't going to be good to us back.
03:09:51.000 And so we're ready to be shitty.
03:09:54.000 Yeah, don't worry about that.
03:09:55.000 That's where MDMA comes in.
03:09:57.000 So what I want to do is a long-term trial of MDMA across the United States of America where everybody just gets a little taste.
03:10:05.000 Imagine if you ran on that platform.
03:10:07.000 I've never done MDMA. MDMA for everybody.
03:10:09.000 I've never done MDMA. Is that a...
03:10:13.000 It's ecstasy.
03:10:14.000 Ecstasy, yeah.
03:10:14.000 I've never done ecstasy.
03:10:16.000 It's pretty potent stuff.
03:10:18.000 Really?
03:10:18.000 Yeah, it's also not great for your brain.
03:10:21.000 I did it and then the next day I was like, oh my god, I'm so dumb.
03:10:24.000 My brain was dried out.
03:10:26.000 It felt like a sponge that someone just rang dry.
03:10:29.000 But then after a couple days it goes away and you're like, oh, let's try that again.
03:10:32.000 That was pretty fun.
03:10:33.000 I didn't know you really take 5-HTP. There's a thing you could take a nutrient, 5-HTP, and actually it boosts your body's ability to...
03:10:42.000 I've never done ecstasy, by the way.
03:10:44.000 Ever?
03:10:45.000 I'm telling you right now, on the record, I've never done it.
03:10:48.000 What if you did it alone, in the woods?
03:10:51.000 I am telling you right now, I would do it.
03:10:55.000 But I'm not saying I wouldn't do it.
03:10:58.000 I'm not passing judgment.
03:11:00.000 But I've never done it.
03:11:03.000 Actually, that's true.
03:11:03.000 That's a fact.
03:11:04.000 I've never done ecstasy.
03:11:06.000 And I would do ecstasy, but I've never done it.
03:11:07.000 Sounds like you're asking for ecstasy.
03:11:09.000 If I was a cop, I'd want to arrest you right now.
03:11:11.000 I'm like, this motherfucker is asking for people to give him ecstasy.
03:11:14.000 No, I am not.
03:11:15.000 Do you got any?
03:11:21.000 I know people who have it.
03:11:22.000 Yeah, no.
03:11:23.000 I'm not asking for it.
03:11:24.000 No, I'm not.
03:11:24.000 It's a tricky drug.
03:11:26.000 You don't want to be happy for no reason.
03:11:28.000 But it is true that I've never done it, by the way.
03:11:31.000 That's true.
03:11:32.000 I think I heard that.
03:11:34.000 Yeah.
03:11:34.000 That's what I heard.
03:11:35.000 You got any?
03:11:36.000 I heard you never did it.
03:11:36.000 No, no.
03:11:37.000 But I... I can imagine it would be probably a lot of fun, though.
03:11:42.000 I could imagine it would be.
03:11:43.000 It's supposed to be very therapeutic for soldiers.
03:11:47.000 Soldiers returning with PTSD, apparently MDMA is very, very good for them in overcoming some of the situations they experienced.
03:11:55.000 Can I say something about the Canadian military?
03:11:57.000 Okay, you gonna put your hat on?
03:11:59.000 You gotta move the hat.
03:12:00.000 You're getting excited.
03:12:02.000 You don't have to put it on.
03:12:04.000 So, check this out, Joe.
03:12:06.000 These boots.
03:12:07.000 I made for walking.
03:12:09.000 Can I show you this?
03:12:09.000 Yes.
03:12:10.000 Is that okay?
03:12:11.000 Yeah.
03:12:11.000 Check this out.
03:12:12.000 See these boots?
03:12:13.000 I don't think Jamie can see them though.
03:12:14.000 Can you see them?
03:12:16.000 Where's your...
03:12:16.000 Check that out.
03:12:18.000 Yeah, it's a boot.
03:12:19.000 Seriously, can you show that?
03:12:21.000 This is going to be cool.
03:12:23.000 Check this out.
03:12:24.000 Check this out.
03:12:24.000 These are Canadian Army boots.
03:12:28.000 Okay?
03:12:29.000 Mm-hmm.
03:12:30.000 I wore these.
03:12:32.000 I got them when I went to Afghanistan and did a tour with the Canadian army.
03:12:40.000 Dad.
03:12:40.000 My dad was in Canadian Army.
03:12:42.000 My dad, Canadian Army.
03:12:44.000 And, you know, check it out, man.
03:12:46.000 Like, these are good boots.
03:12:48.000 I'll tell you right now.
03:12:49.000 Are you telling me about your boots?
03:12:50.000 Is this what we've come to?
03:12:52.000 Canadian Army boots.
03:12:53.000 Maybe we should wrap this up.
03:12:54.000 Yeah, they're boots, right?
03:12:56.000 What do they have, like rubber, leather, a lot of shit like that?
03:12:58.000 Yeah, they're comfortable.
03:12:59.000 Laces?
03:13:00.000 Really comfortable, yeah.
03:13:03.000 Okay.
03:13:04.000 You're right.
03:13:05.000 It probably is a good time to run.
03:13:06.000 Why are you showing off your boots?
03:13:08.000 Can I have another problem with that?
03:13:09.000 Yeah, sure.
03:13:10.000 When you're showing people your army boots and say, you really need to get on this.
03:13:14.000 These army boots are super special.
03:13:16.000 They're boots.
03:13:17.000 They're from Canada.
03:13:18.000 I think when you're Canadian, you're a little proud of our Canadian.
03:13:22.000 We have a lot of stuff in Canada that people don't talk about.
03:13:25.000 They don't talk about it in America.
03:13:30.000 You need a song.
03:13:32.000 Well, I'm proud to be a Canadian, where I'm kind of sort of free.
03:13:38.000 Yeah.
03:13:39.000 Very free, very free, very free.
03:13:40.000 Sort of free.
03:13:41.000 Very, very free.
03:13:42.000 You don't have the First Amendment, though, right?
03:13:46.000 No.
03:13:48.000 Well, I mean...
03:13:49.000 No, you don't.
03:13:51.000 You know the story about Mike Ward, comedian, who...
03:13:54.000 Yeah, yeah, I do.
03:13:55.000 Yeah, I know Mike.
03:13:56.000 He got in trouble, and then there was another guy who got in trouble who was involved in a heckling situation where these women were heckling him.
03:14:03.000 He said horrible shit to them, and they sued him, and then they won in court.
03:14:08.000 It's a different sort of a situation over there.
03:14:10.000 It's like they were insulting each other back and forth, and he's on stage doing stand-up.
03:14:15.000 And he wound up losing a shitload of money.
03:14:18.000 Remember that, Jamie?
03:14:20.000 I believe he was Vancouver.
03:14:22.000 Montreal.
03:14:23.000 He was Montreal?
03:14:24.000 That was Mike Ward.
03:14:26.000 This guy was a different guy.
03:14:28.000 This guy, I believe, was BC. The one who lost the lawsuit to the ladies in the audience who were heckling him.
03:14:35.000 I have not heard about that, actually.
03:14:36.000 I know Mike, though, but Mike's a good guy.
03:14:39.000 Yeah, I met Mike.
03:14:40.000 He's funny as fuck, by the way.
03:14:42.000 I heard he's very good stand-up.
03:14:43.000 No, no, Mike is hilarious.
03:14:45.000 I did a podcast with Mike.
03:14:47.000 Hilarious.
03:14:48.000 And I want to shout out to Mike Ward.
03:14:50.000 Yeah.
03:14:51.000 Lesbian wins.
03:14:52.000 Why do they have to say lesbian?
03:14:54.000 That's not Mike, by the way.
03:14:55.000 Jesus Christ.
03:14:56.000 But isn't that fucked up?
03:14:58.000 But hold on a second.
03:15:00.000 Guy Earle is the name of the comic.
03:15:02.000 But look what it says.
03:15:03.000 Lesbian wins $22,500 over comedians' insults.
03:15:07.000 Lesbian.
03:15:08.000 How about woman?
03:15:10.000 That's a weird headline.
03:15:11.000 I mean, I gotta admit.
03:15:13.000 I gotta admit, that's a weird headline.
03:15:14.000 That is an identity politics headline.
03:15:17.000 Lesbian wins money.
03:15:18.000 Oh, we know which side you should be on, Tom Green.
03:15:21.000 Not on the side of jokes.
03:15:23.000 I honestly have no comment on that.
03:15:25.000 I don't even know what's going on with that.
03:15:26.000 You should not be on the side of defending yourself against hecklers or trying to ruin a show.
03:15:30.000 No.
03:15:31.000 You should be on the side of the lesbians.
03:15:34.000 I think it was actually, in all fairness, because one of the things that he said about her was that she was a dyke or something like that.
03:15:40.000 I think it was just like one of those situations that I'm sure you've experienced at comedy shows where people are drunk and they're yelling shit, the comics yelling shit at the audience members.
03:15:49.000 Joe, Joe, Joe.
03:15:49.000 Your shirt.
03:15:50.000 Iron Mike Tyson, Roy Jones Jr. Yeah, next week, man.
03:15:54.000 Tell me about this because I actually don't know.
03:15:56.000 November 28th.
03:15:57.000 I actually don't know.
03:15:58.000 I don't know a lot about that.
03:15:59.000 You didn't know about this fight?
03:16:00.000 Well, I know about it.
03:16:01.000 I do know about it.
03:16:02.000 Yes, I do.
03:16:03.000 But I don't know.
03:16:05.000 I'm just not as in tune with the history of fights.
03:16:09.000 Well, they're two of the all-time greats.
03:16:12.000 And listen, they're both in great shape.
03:16:14.000 Roy Jones Jr. has this crazy footage on his page.
03:16:18.000 Israel Adesanya added to Mike Tyson's vs.
03:16:20.000 Ward Jones.
03:16:21.000 What?
03:16:23.000 Oh, no shit.
03:16:25.000 Alongside Sugar Ray Leonard, oh my god, and Al Bernstein.
03:16:29.000 That's an amazing lineup.
03:16:31.000 Yeah.
03:16:31.000 That's amazing.
03:16:34.000 That's a great idea.
03:16:36.000 They're smart.
03:16:37.000 They're on the ball.
03:16:37.000 First of all, Stylebender is the biggest superstar in the UFC right now.
03:16:41.000 So to have him and Khabib Nurmagomedov, the two biggest superstars in the UFC, for sure.
03:16:46.000 And Jon Jones.
03:16:48.000 Well, there's a lot of superstars.
03:16:50.000 But the point is, having him be on a Mike Tyson card automatically boosts it up.
03:16:55.000 And Larry Merchant...
03:16:57.000 No, Al Bernstein.
03:16:59.000 Al Bernstein, right?
03:17:00.000 Not Larry Merchant?
03:17:01.000 Al Bernstein's an awesome boxing commentator.
03:17:04.000 And it's a weird fight because everybody wanted to see that fight.
03:17:09.000 There was talk of that fight back when Roy Jones won the heavyweight title.
03:17:12.000 He beat John Ruiz.
03:17:14.000 And he was like about 200 pounds.
03:17:16.000 And Tyson in his prime was like 215, 225 in that range.
03:17:21.000 And they had talked about those two fighting and it never came to play.
03:17:24.000 So to see it happen when one is 54 and one is 51, it's crazy.
03:17:29.000 But Roy Jones looks insane, man.
03:17:32.000 I know everybody talks about how good Tyson looks, and Tyson looks incredible.
03:17:35.000 The videos of Tyson hitting the pads, and he's doing it with Rafael Cordero, who's this very well-respected MMA striking coach.
03:17:43.000 Rafael Cordero is legendary in the sport of MMA. He runs Kings Academy, Kings MMA in Orange County or Huntington Beach.
03:17:53.000 Where's Kings MMA? I think their base is like Huntington.
03:17:59.000 Anyway, Rafael Cordero's been training Mike Tyson.
03:18:02.000 There's all these videos of Mike Tyson hitting the pads, and it's fucking insane.
03:18:05.000 He's so fast.
03:18:06.000 He looks so good.
03:18:08.000 It's crazy.
03:18:08.000 But then you've got to watch the Roy Jones Jr. clips.
03:18:11.000 There's Roy Jones Jr. clips that were put up over the last couple of days that are Roy ramping up for the fight.
03:18:17.000 He's 51. He's 51. You can't believe how fast his hands are.
03:18:23.000 At 51, he's like, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
03:18:26.000 He's throwing all these combinations.
03:18:28.000 He's like, oh my god, you forget.
03:18:31.000 Like his song?
03:18:32.000 You like rap music?
03:18:33.000 Y'all must have forgot.
03:18:34.000 He's got a song.
03:18:35.000 Really?
03:18:36.000 Yes.
03:18:37.000 Roy Jones Jr., when he was in the middle of beating the fuck out of everybody, when he was the number one pound-for-pound fighter on the planet with no questions asked, he was also making rap music.
03:18:49.000 Really?
03:18:49.000 Yes.
03:18:50.000 Really?
03:18:50.000 Yeah, y'all must have forgot.
03:18:52.000 Damn.
03:18:53.000 Just about what a beast he is.
03:18:55.000 Well, listen.
03:18:56.000 He should be.
03:18:58.000 It's an interesting fight, man.
03:19:00.000 It's interesting because some people are against it.
03:19:03.000 They're like, I don't want to see these guys fight.
03:19:05.000 I don't want to see these guys get hurt.
03:19:06.000 But listen, that has been their whole business.
03:19:08.000 Look how good Roy Jr.'s hands look.
03:19:11.000 Is this one of the recent ones over the last few days?
03:19:13.000 The most recent ones.
03:19:14.000 Look how fucking fast his hands are, man.
03:19:16.000 Right, right, right.
03:19:17.000 Oh, this is like a CBD ad.
03:19:20.000 What kind of CBD is it?
03:19:23.000 Oh, this is his company.
03:19:25.000 That's what it is.
03:19:25.000 Left Hook CBD. No bullshit.
03:19:28.000 Roy Jones Jr.'s left bicep is 30% larger than his right bicep.
03:19:32.000 It's weird to look at, right?
03:19:35.000 Wasn't it weird, Jamie?
03:19:36.000 Yeah.
03:19:37.000 It freaks you out.
03:19:38.000 It might be more than 30%.
03:19:40.000 I might be selling it short.
03:19:41.000 Is that his punching hand?
03:19:42.000 His left is his front hand, and he throws a lot of hooks, so his bicep is really big.
03:19:47.000 It's enormous.
03:19:49.000 He jokes around about how much bigger it is than his right one.
03:19:52.000 So when you got into UFC and fighting, do you enjoy that?
03:20:04.000 Well, yes, I do enjoy it.
03:20:06.000 Yeah?
03:20:06.000 Yeah.
03:20:07.000 Like, I mean, like...
03:20:09.000 So what do you do?
03:20:10.000 Like, hey, next week, let's go spar in the gym?
03:20:14.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
03:20:15.000 Let's go fight?
03:20:16.000 I still do, like, little jujitsu rolling, but I don't spar, like, striking anymore.
03:20:20.000 So how's that?
03:20:21.000 Like, do you do that, though?
03:20:22.000 Like, you go...
03:20:24.000 Fight with people?
03:20:25.000 No, no.
03:20:27.000 When you have gloves on and you hit each other in the head...
03:20:30.000 It sounds like it would be fun as hell.
03:20:31.000 I've never done that in my life, by the way.
03:20:33.000 I'm trying to tell you it's not good for you.
03:20:34.000 Don't do that.
03:20:35.000 You should do that if that's what you want to do for a career or if you're young and you want to see how good you can get at it.
03:20:40.000 But when you get to a certain point in your life, you shouldn't be getting hit in the head anymore.
03:20:43.000 Because getting hit in the head is like getting poked in the eyes.
03:20:46.000 You don't get stronger.
03:20:48.000 We're talking about eyes.
03:20:49.000 As you get older, your eyes, even if you work out hard with them, they fall apart.
03:20:56.000 It's not like any other system in your body where you can train it to be stronger.
03:21:00.000 You can train your muscular system.
03:21:02.000 You can train a lot of the things you do.
03:21:06.000 You get it like a pathway grooved where you know exactly, like martial arts are that way, where you know exactly how to do it.
03:21:14.000 And as you do it longer and longer in your life, you get better at doing it.
03:21:18.000 Not with your eyes, and not with getting hit in the head.
03:21:22.000 Those are two things.
03:21:23.000 When something happens bad to your eyes or something happens bad to your head, it does not get better.
03:21:28.000 It gets a little better.
03:21:30.000 But if you keep getting hit in the head, it's going to get worse and worse and worse.
03:21:34.000 So don't spar.
03:21:35.000 That's what I'm telling you.
03:21:36.000 Yeah, I love that.
03:21:40.000 People think that it's just sparring.
03:21:43.000 But you're getting hit in the head.
03:21:45.000 You're calling it just sparring.
03:21:47.000 And it is just sparring.
03:21:48.000 Some sparring I think is important.
03:21:50.000 I've never done that.
03:21:52.000 And now that I think about it, I haven't thought about this before.
03:21:55.000 That sounds like that would be probably a pretty exciting and fun thing to do.
03:21:59.000 I have been punched in the head a few times, Joe.
03:22:01.000 I'm sure you have.
03:22:03.000 I believe that.
03:22:04.000 Maybe once or twice.
03:22:04.000 I think most men, by the time you get to be a certain age, something's hit you in the head.
03:22:09.000 Not more than ten times.
03:22:11.000 But my point is, and this is not to diminish anybody who loves sparring.
03:22:14.000 If you love sparring, just like if you love riding a dirt bike, go ahead and do it.
03:22:19.000 I want you to do whatever the fuck you want.
03:22:20.000 For some people, the value of sparring and getting that aggression out is worth whatever brain damage they might get.
03:22:27.000 Or it's like skateboarding too.
03:22:29.000 It's about risk.
03:22:29.000 It's about risk.
03:22:30.000 We need to take a risk because it makes us feel like we're alive.
03:22:37.000 Yeah.
03:22:37.000 We're taking a risk.
03:22:39.000 So that's what it is.
03:22:40.000 I think it's a freedom issue too.
03:22:41.000 You should be free to get punched in the head.
03:22:43.000 Right.
03:22:44.000 If you want to do it.
03:22:45.000 If you and your buddy want to get together and punch each other in the head, I don't think anybody should be able to stop you.
03:22:49.000 Absolutely.
03:22:50.000 But as your friend...
03:22:52.000 I want to tell you that you have to think about getting hit in the head differently than is the standard narrative amongst men that don't think about it.
03:23:01.000 Yeah.
03:23:01.000 The thing is like, don't be a pussy, put your gloves on.
03:23:04.000 Listen, if you get hit in the head too much, your brain doesn't work well anymore.
03:23:08.000 It just stops functioning at a high level.
03:23:11.000 I... Start developing all sorts of problems.
03:23:14.000 I... I don't...
03:23:16.000 Yeah, so...
03:23:18.000 Oh my gosh.
03:23:19.000 You want some coffee?
03:23:20.000 No, I'm good, dude.
03:23:23.000 Yeah, I... Don't spar, Tom Green.
03:23:27.000 That's what I'm saying to you.
03:23:28.000 And don't listen to me.
03:23:30.000 If you want to spar, go ahead and spar.
03:23:32.000 For some people, it's better for them because they don't feel depressed.
03:23:35.000 Like, they can get their exertion out in sparring and they're fine with it for now.
03:23:39.000 And they're just going to deal with that.
03:23:41.000 I get it.
03:23:41.000 But it's just...
03:23:44.000 There's a reality of getting hit in the head too many times.
03:23:47.000 There's only so many you have in you.
03:23:49.000 Yeah, it's a better thing to avoid.
03:23:50.000 Before the wheels fall off.
03:23:51.000 Yeah, avoid it if you can.
03:23:54.000 Yeah, well, listen, I mean, I probably have been in a few of those, but Joe, this is good.
03:24:08.000 Can I bring Charlie back into the equation for a second?
03:24:13.000 You must.
03:24:15.000 Charlie.
03:24:16.000 What do you want to bring her back to the equation for?
03:24:18.000 By the way, her new name is Chopper.
03:24:20.000 I don't have to, but...
03:24:25.000 I don't know why I thought your dog was Chopper.
03:24:27.000 Where did I get that one from?
03:24:29.000 Did someone say it?
03:24:31.000 I feel like someone said it.
03:24:34.000 Yeah, I might have said...
03:24:37.000 Don't be nice to me.
03:24:38.000 If I made it up, let me know I made it up.
03:24:41.000 I'm not worried.
03:24:42.000 This dog is so cool.
03:24:44.000 I agree.
03:24:45.000 Yeah, I feel really...
03:24:47.000 Are you a salesman for products I've already bought?
03:24:49.000 Yes, this dog.
03:24:51.000 I'm just happy about how nice this doggy is.
03:24:56.000 She's a good girl.
03:24:57.000 She's a young puppy that got really lucky.
03:25:00.000 She's a good girl.
03:25:01.000 I can tell by the way you guys cuddle.
03:25:03.000 You guys cuddle a lot.
03:25:04.000 She loves you.
03:25:05.000 She's a nice doggy.
03:25:07.000 Do you have any plans to do another comedy special?
03:25:12.000 I can't wait to do one.
03:25:15.000 When do you think you'll be comfortable enough to get in front of crowds?
03:25:20.000 Tonight?
03:25:21.000 Yeah, sure.
03:25:22.000 Really?
03:25:22.000 Yeah.
03:25:23.000 What would we have to do to get you on stage tonight?
03:25:26.000 Ask me to come with you.
03:25:28.000 Is there a show going on?
03:25:29.000 You wouldn't be worried to get into a big COVID soup?
03:25:33.000 I would be, but it's Joe Rogan asking me to go to a show in Austin, so that's different.
03:25:39.000 We don't have a show tonight.
03:25:40.000 If I had a show tonight, I would do it.
03:25:41.000 I did a show last night for the first time in a week, and the show before that I did the first time in July.
03:25:46.000 But if you were serious tonight right now, of course, yeah.
03:25:48.000 My point is, you're comfortable doing a show.
03:25:51.000 If you did a show tonight— No, not at all.
03:25:53.000 You're not?
03:25:53.000 No, not at all.
03:25:54.000 But you take a risk.
03:25:57.000 Some small amount of risk.
03:26:00.000 Yeah, if right now there was a show, I'd go do a show.
03:26:03.000 Yeah, because it'd be hilarious.
03:26:04.000 We'd go have a good time.
03:26:06.000 It'd be great.
03:26:07.000 But I would not plan on going out.
03:26:09.000 I'm not trying to go do stand-up right now.
03:26:11.000 You're going to wait for the vaccine?
03:26:13.000 Yes.
03:26:14.000 That's what I'm doing.
03:26:15.000 I hope it works.
03:26:16.000 That's what I'm doing.
03:26:17.000 We talked to Nicholas Christakis a couple of days ago, and he was telling us about the vaccine, how it would work.
03:26:23.000 And I'm like, if it was proven to be effective and safe, I'd take it.
03:26:27.000 Yeah.
03:26:27.000 But I would want to know, man.
03:26:29.000 I want to talk to those doctors.
03:26:31.000 I want to know, tell me what you did.
03:26:33.000 Do you get the flu shot?
03:26:34.000 No.
03:26:35.000 I get the flu shot every year.
03:26:37.000 Congratulations, Tom Green!
03:26:39.000 Yeah.
03:26:40.000 How's that immune system?
03:26:41.000 I like the flu shot.
03:26:43.000 When was the last time you got the flu?
03:26:45.000 I haven't had it since I started getting the flu shot.
03:26:48.000 Wow.
03:26:49.000 I used to get it all the time.
03:26:50.000 Coincidence?
03:26:51.000 No, no, no.
03:26:52.000 It was instantly.
03:26:52.000 As soon as I started getting the flu shot, I never got the flu again.
03:26:55.000 Jamie, when was the last time you got the flu?
03:26:56.000 It did exactly what it said it was supposed to do.
03:26:58.000 Oh, no.
03:26:59.000 I don't know if I honestly have ever even had it now that I've heard how mad it is.
03:27:01.000 Oh, I get it every year.
03:27:02.000 I go down to CVS, boom, boom, 26. And you never get the flu because you get the flu shot.
03:27:06.000 So, yeah.
03:27:08.000 Makes sense.
03:27:10.000 So, well, this is what happened, okay?
03:27:12.000 You'll appreciate this, okay?
03:27:15.000 This is...
03:27:15.000 Okay.
03:27:16.000 This is...
03:27:17.000 So, I guess it was like...
03:27:21.000 When I started doing stand-up again...
03:27:24.000 I was, you know, going out on the road every weekend.
03:27:28.000 I would get the flu every year.
03:27:30.000 And then I decided to start taking the flu shot and I never got the flu again.
03:27:34.000 But, yeah, so, yeah, I think it works.
03:27:40.000 Well, that's anecdotal evidence, Tom Green.
03:27:43.000 And I'm going to take it into account.
03:27:44.000 We're going to go over this and apply it to all the other data and we'll get back to you.
03:27:48.000 Exactly.
03:27:49.000 If we believe your flu shot theory.
03:27:51.000 Yeah.
03:27:51.000 Might be a crock of shit.
03:27:52.000 Yeah.
03:27:53.000 No, I think flu shots are probably great.
03:27:55.000 But I also think that keeping your immune system strong is great.
03:27:58.000 Yeah.
03:27:58.000 I think you've got to be on the ball.
03:28:00.000 And I think people don't want to hear that shit.
03:28:02.000 I need to know.
03:28:03.000 They want to be able to just go to the doctor and get it fixed.
03:28:05.000 Exactly.
03:28:06.000 I need to know.
03:28:07.000 I do need to be more aware of how.
03:28:10.000 To look after myself physically, like, you know, what am I supposed to be doing?
03:28:15.000 Well, you know, there's a simple bodyweight exercise program that you could do while you're out in these remote locations.
03:28:25.000 You don't need anything.
03:28:26.000 I have weights with me.
03:28:26.000 Oh, do you?
03:28:27.000 Yeah.
03:28:28.000 You know what sometimes is even better than weights?
03:28:30.000 I got two 25-pound dumbbells.
03:28:31.000 Oh, that's good.
03:28:32.000 And I just do that.
03:28:35.000 Sometimes what's even better than weights is bands.
03:28:37.000 But I do it like once every seven days I'll do it.
03:28:39.000 You know what I mean?
03:28:41.000 I'm not being very attentive to my health, to be honest with you.
03:28:46.000 How come?
03:28:51.000 Come on in and talk on that microphone, Tom Green.
03:28:53.000 Well, you know, I mean, I... All right.
03:29:01.000 Well, you know, listen, I'm...
03:29:03.000 I don't know.
03:29:05.000 It's weird.
03:29:06.000 You think about everything that's going on in the world all the time.
03:29:10.000 It rattles around in your head and you start to think like...
03:29:13.000 Are you an empathic person?
03:29:16.000 Are you an empath?
03:29:21.000 I mean, in what sense?
03:29:23.000 I don't know if I'm using that word correctly.
03:29:28.000 When you say an empathic person, someone who's deeply in tune to other people's suffering, I think that's how I'm trying to use it.
03:29:34.000 Is that a correct definition?
03:29:35.000 I think I am, yes.
03:29:37.000 I think I am, yes, yes.
03:29:38.000 Yes.
03:29:39.000 The answer is yes.
03:29:40.000 I'm trying to use a positive word for a sensitive person.
03:29:45.000 Showing an ability to understand and share feelings of another.
03:29:48.000 I think that is what I am.
03:29:52.000 You seem like that kind of a guy when shit is awful.
03:29:56.000 When you say, can we all just get along?
03:29:59.000 Some people say you have a real sincerity to the way you're saying it.
03:30:05.000 It's like you really do want everybody to...
03:30:08.000 Your happiness would be enhanced if people were getting along better.
03:30:14.000 Yeah.
03:30:14.000 Yeah.
03:30:15.000 For sure, yeah.
03:30:16.000 Yeah, I mean, we should all just be having a good time.
03:30:21.000 I think we need to embrace those ideas.
03:30:23.000 If there's anything that we can do as individuals, because society is so whack right now.
03:30:29.000 It's just so out of tune.
03:30:30.000 But the only thing that we can do to each other is create the minimal amount of damage.
03:30:36.000 Be as nice to each other as we can.
03:30:39.000 I'm not saying stop joking around.
03:30:41.000 I'm not saying just keep your mouth shut and don't...
03:30:45.000 Talk about things you know that are wrong.
03:30:47.000 I'm not saying that.
03:30:47.000 I'm just saying there's ways in most of the ways we interact with each other where we could be nice to each other.
03:30:55.000 We have to just think of ourselves as being in this together.
03:30:58.000 You're not a Republican.
03:30:59.000 You're not a Democrat.
03:31:00.000 You're a fucking human being.
03:31:02.000 And this idea that you have to be on that side or this side, you have to support him or him or her or what the fuck ever, you don't.
03:31:12.000 Most of these people that are talking about politicians and these ideas that they're fighting over as a cornerstone of their life, they don't even really deeply understand the people they're talking about, the people that they support.
03:31:27.000 There's a lot of things they're missing.
03:31:28.000 The person syncs up with a good enough idea, that's my team, I'm a fucking Raiders fan, dolphins can suck my ass!
03:31:36.000 And next thing you know, you're looking at it the same way a sports fan does.
03:31:40.000 And that's what most people do.
03:31:41.000 Right.
03:31:42.000 And I think it's fucking nonsense.
03:31:44.000 You just have to have shit in your own...
03:31:46.000 Like, we all have these weird competitive drives and instincts.
03:31:50.000 That's why people love to get dedicated to teams.
03:31:52.000 You want the fucking buccaneers to go out there and kick some ass, right?
03:31:56.000 They get really dedicated to it.
03:31:58.000 It means a lot to them.
03:31:59.000 It feels good to them.
03:32:00.000 But it's a trap.
03:32:02.000 It's a trap.
03:32:03.000 And it's the same trap that leads you to Republican versus Democrat.
03:32:06.000 That same goddamn trap...
03:32:10.000 It's not good for any of us.
03:32:12.000 And most of the argument is started out with, you're on that side, this person's on the other side.
03:32:18.000 And then you're like, well, they can't be right because they're not over here.
03:32:21.000 And then you become married to you being right, and they become married to them being right, and you're just duking it out.
03:32:29.000 And people will lie and fucking manipulate to try to win the argument.
03:32:34.000 And that's more common than not.
03:32:36.000 That's the weirdest thing about us.
03:32:38.000 And this is the basest, most primate level of screaming at each other.
03:32:45.000 That is all happening right now, just filtered through really sophisticated law and language and behavior in Congress and the Senate.
03:32:55.000 It's all the same thing.
03:32:56.000 It's just like this, wah!
03:32:59.000 And they're duking it out.
03:33:01.000 They're all duking it out.
03:33:02.000 The left and the right, the news anchors, the people on MSNBC and Fox News, and everybody's like, all super ineffective ways of communicating.
03:33:15.000 Everybody's screaming into the night.
03:33:18.000 Doesn't it seem like that, kind of?
03:33:19.000 That's what it is.
03:33:21.000 It seems like that's what it is.
03:33:22.000 Kind of, right?
03:33:23.000 It's not a good way to handle this.
03:33:24.000 Oh my gosh.
03:33:25.000 It's not a good way to handle this.
03:33:27.000 The best way to handle this is for everybody to just agree to be nice.
03:33:30.000 Yeah.
03:33:30.000 Start from that.
03:33:32.000 Yeah.
03:33:32.000 Start from that and let's go over the differences.
03:33:34.000 Let's go over the issues that we...
03:33:36.000 How much money do you think should go to education?
03:33:39.000 And why?
03:33:41.000 Why is education so cheap to you?
03:33:44.000 How much do you think it costs to pay a teacher?
03:33:46.000 Yeah.
03:33:46.000 How much should it cost?
03:33:48.000 Like, is it a matter of how much you don't want to give up in taxes or is it a matter of how much a teacher is actually worth?
03:33:53.000 Yeah.
03:33:53.000 Because we got a lot of things that we would all agree on.
03:33:57.000 If we could put it into a perspective of this is how much is actually going to impact you in terms of how much you have to pay.
03:34:02.000 This is as much how it can actually impact you into how much your...
03:34:07.000 The actual quality of life, the quality of life in your community is, how much it gets improved.
03:34:12.000 I think most people would be willing, if they were absolutely certain, to know that the quality of their life would improve where they live if they could just add more to the tax pool.
03:34:21.000 They would probably do it happily.
03:34:23.000 Most people.
03:34:24.000 If they really thought that it would enhance everybody, that we're all on the same side.
03:34:27.000 I agree with that.
03:34:28.000 People think they're getting fucked.
03:34:29.000 That's part of the problem.
03:34:31.000 They think they're getting fucked and they think they're getting manipulated.
03:34:33.000 Why do they think that?
03:34:35.000 Let's go with California.
03:34:36.000 I don't think that.
03:34:37.000 In California, when you're paying 13% in taxes, you're like, where's my money going?
03:34:41.000 How come you can go to Nevada and you pay zero?
03:34:44.000 How come I drive an hour that way and I pay zero?
03:34:47.000 What am I doing here?
03:34:48.000 Why am I paying so much money?
03:34:50.000 A lot of people think like that.
03:34:52.000 Sure, sure.
03:34:53.000 Yeah, that makes sense, yeah.
03:34:55.000 Yeah, I guess, you know, I don't know.
03:35:00.000 I personally just kind of, you know, I was driving here today, right?
03:35:07.000 Austin, Texas.
03:35:08.000 I believe you.
03:35:09.000 And this guy at the freeway, and people asking for money on the side of the freeway, you know, and you're like...
03:35:16.000 Tell him to get a job?
03:35:17.000 No, I did not, you know?
03:35:20.000 I did not.
03:35:21.000 I feel bad that we have to have that going on in our world.
03:35:26.000 Yes.
03:35:27.000 It's very unfortunate whenever you see it.
03:35:30.000 Because what it represents to me is a baby.
03:35:33.000 They grew up and became a person that finds themselves on the side of the road asking for money.
03:35:38.000 And I don't know what's nature and I don't know what's nurture.
03:35:42.000 I don't know what is drug addiction.
03:35:44.000 I don't know what's abuse.
03:35:45.000 I don't know what gets a person to that point.
03:35:47.000 I don't know their life.
03:35:48.000 But when I see them, that's what makes me sad.
03:35:50.000 What makes me sad is that a person would get to this position and not have anybody to turn to, not have anybody they can rely on, not have anybody they love that loves them back.
03:36:00.000 That's what that is.
03:36:01.000 If you see a person on the street, you're dealing with either drug addiction or a person who doesn't have anybody who really loves them, and they never grew up with someone who loves them, so they don't understand love, they're bad at relationships, they're bad at communication, and they find themselves under a fucking overpass somewhere.
03:36:16.000 I think that should be something that we're all more aware of and we have empathy towards people.
03:36:22.000 That are in that situation.
03:36:24.000 When you look at a city like Los Angeles, for example, that's filled with tents, you're failing these people.
03:36:30.000 Whatever you're doing to take care of, if you really want to be empathetic towards people that are homeless or people that are down on their luck or people that are downtrodden, you've got to fix that.
03:36:39.000 I don't know how to do it.
03:36:40.000 I'm a comedian.
03:36:41.000 You fix it.
03:36:42.000 You have to come up with ideas to fix it.
03:36:43.000 You can't let it get worse every year because it just keeps getting worse.
03:36:47.000 LA is bananas right now.
03:36:51.000 Since you've left, how many tents do you think they've popped up?
03:36:54.000 One million.
03:36:55.000 One million new tents.
03:36:57.000 Okay.
03:36:57.000 I just made that number up.
03:36:59.000 Yeah, really?
03:37:00.000 Yeah.
03:37:00.000 Well, I will say, like, it is sad when you drive around in the city, and you're in this beautiful city, Los Angeles, with all its history and everything, and it's a beautiful place, and there's people sleeping under this.
03:37:12.000 Yeah, it's a bar.
03:37:13.000 Under the bridge in a tent, you're like, man, come on, you know?
03:37:18.000 You know what happens though, man?
03:37:19.000 Let's get this together, people.
03:37:20.000 We should be able to help these people.
03:37:22.000 Right.
03:37:23.000 But you know what happens?
03:37:24.000 These people develop communities.
03:37:26.000 And then they're all hanging out together on this, like, tent strip.
03:37:30.000 And they know each other.
03:37:32.000 You know?
03:37:32.000 It's not ideal.
03:37:33.000 But then they start thinking about these people that are in apartments, working shitty jobs, hating their lives.
03:37:38.000 And they're like, I don't know if this is any better or worse.
03:37:42.000 A lot of people have that perspective.
03:37:44.000 You could live on the beach in Santa Monica.
03:37:47.000 Set up a tent.
03:37:48.000 You don't need much if you're one of those dudes.
03:37:51.000 There's a lot of dudes out there like, I don't need much.
03:37:53.000 I don't even have shoes.
03:37:54.000 Yeah, I feel like that.
03:37:56.000 I'm living in a van down by the river now.
03:37:58.000 That's why I brought it up.
03:38:00.000 You're closing in on that I don't need much sort of thing.
03:38:03.000 Yeah, absolutely.
03:38:06.000 It's funny how Charlie has been so quiet.
03:38:09.000 Has she been the best dog?
03:38:10.000 She's an awesome dog.
03:38:12.000 I know a dude who started out doing what you were doing and then eventually just decided to travel.
03:38:17.000 He's a fitness guy, Steve Maxwell.
03:38:19.000 Eventually just traveled all over the world.
03:38:21.000 Got rid of his van.
03:38:22.000 Stopped living in his van.
03:38:23.000 And started living in hotels and living wherever he gets hired to do gigs.
03:38:28.000 Just travel all over the world doing that.
03:38:31.000 Teaching fitness.
03:38:33.000 Wow.
03:38:34.000 Gave up on all his worldly possessions.
03:38:36.000 Fuck it.
03:38:36.000 He lives out of a bag on his back.
03:38:38.000 Wow.
03:38:39.000 Yeah.
03:38:40.000 Is he...
03:38:41.000 I mean, listen, it's fun to be able to explore the planet.
03:38:46.000 Do you like going to other places?
03:38:48.000 Do you like going to new countries?
03:38:50.000 Yeah, I do.
03:38:51.000 What's your favorite country that you've been to?
03:38:58.000 Maybe Italy.
03:39:00.000 Okay, yeah.
03:39:01.000 Because I got a chance to go to the Vatican and you see the art collection.
03:39:04.000 Oh, that's cool.
03:39:05.000 And you wander around that place and just think of what kind of insane history it was.
03:39:09.000 Wow.
03:39:10.000 In that time of the world where Rome was conquering everything.
03:39:15.000 I went to Rome and saw the Colosseum and you're standing in this place where for who knows how many hundreds of years gladiators fought to the death.
03:39:26.000 And you're just thinking about how bananas this whole situation must have been when this place was filled and they would lift up the fucking bottom of the floor and there'd be a tiger and a dude with a sword would fight off a tiger.
03:39:38.000 Like, what the fuck, man?
03:39:40.000 Like, this really happened?
03:39:42.000 And then you also see the beauty in their artwork.
03:39:46.000 There's something about Italy, also because I'm Italian, so it makes me think of my ancestors.
03:39:53.000 So when I'm wandering around this weird place, I'm like...
03:39:56.000 You guys were freaks.
03:39:59.000 I was like, no wonder I'm fucked up.
03:40:01.000 You guys were freaks.
03:40:02.000 You guys were freaks.
03:40:04.000 Yeah.
03:40:05.000 Yeah, that's incredible.
03:40:08.000 The Coliseum is bananas.
03:40:10.000 Yeah.
03:40:11.000 You just sit there and you think, like, how many years did people entertain themselves with other people getting slaughtered?
03:40:18.000 Hmm.
03:40:20.000 I read some insane statistic about how many people died in the Colosseum over the many hundreds of years that it was around.
03:40:30.000 Wait, how many was it?
03:40:32.000 I forget.
03:40:33.000 I think it was hundreds of thousands.
03:40:36.000 It's too many.
03:40:37.000 It was an estimation.
03:40:39.000 I don't know if the estimation was even correct.
03:40:40.000 No amount would be too many, but it was too many.
03:40:44.000 Let's guess.
03:40:44.000 I want to say it's close to 200,000 plus people died.
03:40:50.000 How many people died?
03:40:51.000 More.
03:40:51.000 More?
03:40:52.000 What?
03:40:53.000 400,000?
03:40:54.000 400,000.
03:40:56.000 That's what it was.
03:40:56.000 So I knew it was in the hundreds of thousands.
03:40:59.000 So 400,000 people died in the Colosseum.
03:41:03.000 Really?
03:41:04.000 And a million...
03:41:05.000 400,000?
03:41:07.000 And a million animals.
03:41:09.000 Okay.
03:41:10.000 A million.
03:41:11.000 Wow.
03:41:13.000 Jesus Christ!
03:41:16.000 400,000 people and a million animals.
03:41:19.000 Over a period of how long, Jamie?
03:41:20.000 400 years.
03:41:22.000 Fuck.
03:41:24.000 So think about America.
03:41:26.000 I want you to think of 1620. Imagine.
03:41:32.000 A coliseum built in 1620 is still rocking today.
03:41:36.000 There's a dude about to fight to the death with a fucking elephant.
03:41:39.000 Yeah.
03:41:40.000 He's got a spear and a shield.
03:41:41.000 He's gonna fight to the death with an elephant.
03:41:44.000 He's probably gonna get his legs snapped in half.
03:41:47.000 Yeah.
03:41:48.000 As the elephant stomps him as he shoves his fucking spear into its heart.
03:41:52.000 Yeah.
03:41:53.000 Yeah, he's going to drag himself over to the elephant and finish it off.
03:41:57.000 Wow, that sounds so stressful.
03:41:59.000 Super stressful.
03:42:00.000 Oh my god.
03:42:01.000 Yeah, they used to fill the bottom of the Colosseum up with water.
03:42:06.000 That is so stressful.
03:42:08.000 Super stressful.
03:42:09.000 Did they not want to just like chill out and just like go look at stuff?
03:42:12.000 That's the thing, man.
03:42:14.000 Italians are bananas.
03:42:15.000 Why not just like, hey, let's just look at everything and not do anything?
03:42:19.000 Dude, when I was there, I don't know if they do this for a show for American tourists, but when I was there, I had one of my daughters in the car with me and this fucking Italian dude in Rome stops the car like almost in the middle of an intersection to compliment some woman on her figure.
03:42:39.000 He's like, oh, maro!
03:42:40.000 Look at this one over here!
03:42:42.000 Like, literally a caricature and drives off.
03:42:44.000 I'm like, oh, Rome!
03:42:47.000 This is what happens to all the savages from Rome.
03:42:50.000 They've, like, my people.
03:42:52.000 They've turned into this now.
03:42:53.000 Now they're just...
03:42:55.000 Nutty, nutty male taxi drivers.
03:42:57.000 But when you see what they did in the Coliseum, what they decided to do was build up an arena where people would fight to the death.
03:43:06.000 And it became...
03:43:07.000 That's a pretty crazy thing.
03:43:08.000 ...one of the most famous arenas in the history of the world.
03:43:11.000 Right?
03:43:12.000 If you stop and think about the history of the world, what is more famous in terms of...
03:43:20.000 Like an arena where you know that people did crazy shit and fought to the death.
03:43:28.000 There's no other place.
03:43:29.000 There's the Coliseum and that's it.
03:43:30.000 There's no other place where you think of that immediately makes you think of people in sword fights and bows and arrows and lions.
03:43:37.000 It's only the Coliseum.
03:43:39.000 You know how crazy human beings are?
03:43:41.000 In the thousands and thousands of years we've been around, there's only one famous place like that.
03:43:48.000 The garden is the closest I can think of.
03:43:51.000 Yeah, the garden.
03:43:52.000 But no one's dying in the garden, right?
03:43:54.000 That's the only difference.
03:43:56.000 That's why I drove, and I'm going to, honestly, starting tomorrow, go into all these amazing places.
03:44:05.000 That...
03:44:08.000 You know there's like 15 of those in New Mexico?
03:44:15.000 There's about 15 archaeological sites of early...
03:44:25.000 Architecture, native architecture.
03:44:27.000 Like the one you showed us, the cliff stuff?
03:44:29.000 There's 14 of those?
03:44:31.000 There's many more, actually.
03:44:32.000 Are they different?
03:44:33.000 Are they all on the cliffs, or are they all different?
03:44:36.000 They are different, and they're different places, and there was this whole civilization that was built up out there, and we can just drive out there and go look at them.
03:44:43.000 You can go stand there in those spots.
03:44:45.000 So I was driving through Flagstaff, right before Flagstaff, Wupataki?
03:44:53.000 I think it's Wupataki.
03:44:56.000 But I just saw the sign, National Monument.
03:45:00.000 I turned off and I went down.
03:45:02.000 And here you are, all of a sudden, you're standing in a place.
03:45:05.000 It's like it was built in, you know...
03:45:11.000 It's stone walls around you and they were built in...
03:45:16.000 There it is.
03:45:17.000 Right here.
03:45:17.000 Oh my god.
03:45:19.000 What'd you say, Jamie?
03:45:20.000 It's called bandolier.
03:45:21.000 Bandolier.
03:45:22.000 Like the thing, your bullets go on?
03:45:24.000 I might be saying it wrong.
03:45:25.000 That's okay.
03:45:26.000 So it's like that.
03:45:27.000 So go to...
03:45:28.000 How do they get into those little holes?
03:45:31.000 They have ladders here.
03:45:32.000 I don't know how...
03:45:33.000 I don't think I've been there yet, actually.
03:45:37.000 That's really different.
03:45:39.000 That's insane.
03:45:40.000 But there's stuff like that all over.
03:45:42.000 That's the move, though.
03:45:43.000 Then you pull the ladder up at night and, like, get the fuck out of here.
03:45:46.000 Right.
03:45:46.000 Right?
03:45:47.000 Right.
03:45:47.000 You don't want that ladder down there during the day.
03:45:49.000 But it's like the Ewoks, you know?
03:45:51.000 It's all like the Ewoks.
03:45:52.000 That's heavy, man.
03:45:53.000 There's all these Ewok kind of...
03:45:55.000 It's just so weird to think that people lived like that just not that long ago.
03:45:59.000 And it's right there.
03:46:00.000 Yeah, and you can go visit it.
03:46:01.000 You can just drive out there and go to it.
03:46:03.000 It just makes you think, if you weren't born in this era, if you were born thousands of years ago and you were born in this spot, this would be your village.
03:46:13.000 This would be where you live.
03:46:14.000 People like you and me, regular people, lived in that spot.
03:46:19.000 And you just think about what it must have been like to be alive.
03:46:23.000 Like, the other one that you showed me, you said 1200 BC, right?
03:46:26.000 1200!
03:46:27.000 The Clift Wellings, Clift Wellings in Hila.
03:46:32.000 Hila National.
03:46:33.000 Dude, 800 years ago.
03:46:35.000 800 years ago.
03:46:36.000 You're sitting around 800 years ago.
03:46:41.000 And you're looking up at the sky and there's nothing to separate you from the stars.
03:46:46.000 You've seen incredible stars.
03:46:48.000 And you're just trying to keep people from eating your family.
03:46:51.000 You're trying to keep other animals from eating you.
03:46:54.000 You're trying to eat animals.
03:46:55.000 You're trying to figure out how to keep the fire on.
03:46:58.000 You're trying to figure out how to make flint arrowheads.
03:47:01.000 They had a macaw feather.
03:47:05.000 In...
03:47:06.000 So this is a thing.
03:47:07.000 I think I... In...
03:47:10.000 This is interesting.
03:47:12.000 In the...
03:47:12.000 Okay, I'm just going to clarify.
03:47:15.000 I'm not totally wasted.
03:47:16.000 This is kind of interesting.
03:47:20.000 This is a circuitous route to get this macaw feather story.
03:47:23.000 They found a macaw feather in there, and then that means that they were trading with the Yucatan Peninsula.
03:47:29.000 Oh, because the macaw is from the Yucatan?
03:47:32.000 They also found a bison bone in those, so that means there was not bison native to that area, so that means they were trading with other...
03:47:41.000 Interesting.
03:47:43.000 There was not bison native to that area in the 1200s?
03:47:46.000 They could figure that out?
03:47:47.000 I guess, apparently...
03:47:49.000 Dude, you ever see all the shit that they do when they go back and look at...
03:47:53.000 Is it Pleistocene era?
03:47:55.000 Like, what is the era where they had a North American lion?
03:47:59.000 There was a North American lion that was larger than the African lion that lived right here.
03:48:04.000 Okay.
03:48:06.000 Yeah, there was not, like, a certain amount of time ago, I think it was more than 15,000 years ago, this place, North America, was filled with some really crazy shit, man.
03:48:17.000 Yeah, I bet.
03:48:18.000 Saber-toothed tigers and all sorts of, like, we were at, like, you know, you think about Africa, right?
03:48:26.000 You think about leopards, leopards Asia?
03:48:32.000 Leopards are in Africa too, right?
03:48:35.000 Leopards, jaguar is South America.
03:48:37.000 Jaguar is South America, right.
03:48:38.000 So leopards, lions, crocodiles.
03:48:42.000 You think of the fucking predators.
03:48:44.000 Tigers are not in Africa.
03:48:45.000 They're Asia, right?
03:48:46.000 Yeah.
03:48:47.000 People always would think, oh, Africa.
03:48:49.000 Tigers.
03:48:49.000 There's no tigers in Africa.
03:48:50.000 No.
03:48:51.000 You're right.
03:48:51.000 Yeah.
03:48:52.000 But there's plenty of shit that'll kill you.
03:48:53.000 Yeah.
03:48:54.000 Hyenas.
03:48:55.000 Oh my god.
03:48:55.000 So you think all these wild beasts and then what, you know, when we think of like safari in Africa, the dangers of safari, those are the animals you would think of.
03:49:04.000 North America apparently was filled with those things.
03:49:07.000 Yeah.
03:49:07.000 You know antelope today?
03:49:09.000 You know what a North American antelope is?
03:49:10.000 A pronghorn antelope?
03:49:12.000 You ever seen one of those?
03:49:14.000 Did you see them on your trip?
03:49:16.000 Yeah, yesterday.
03:49:16.000 They're really cool.
03:49:17.000 Oh, you saw one yesterday?
03:49:18.000 I did.
03:49:19.000 They're really cool, right?
03:49:19.000 It's actually on my Instagram.
03:49:21.000 Dude, those are prehistoric.
03:49:22.000 So if you go to my Instagram right now, okay?
03:49:24.000 Okay.
03:49:24.000 Tom Green Live, what is it?
03:49:26.000 At Tom Green.
03:49:26.000 At Tom Green.
03:49:27.000 My Instagram.
03:49:28.000 I went, but...
03:49:31.000 Seriously, the only reason I'm really pushing it hard here, Joe, is because I was driving down the highway yesterday and we saw these antelope and they were really beautiful.
03:49:44.000 Yeah, they're beautiful.
03:49:45.000 And I said, whoa!
03:49:47.000 And I went on an Instagram story or whatever, and I said, hey, yo, check this out.
03:49:51.000 There's this antelope.
03:49:52.000 And we turned around, we drove back, we looked at them, and they were beautiful.
03:49:57.000 They're a really weird animal.
03:49:59.000 They're an animal that predates all the mass extinction of the North American large mammals.
03:50:06.000 So the North American large mammals like the African lion, which was previous, but saber-toothed tiger, American cheetah, there was a cheetah that lived in America that was really fast, and those cheetahs are the reason why these pronghorns are so fast.
03:50:22.000 They're so fast because they evolved to get away from an animal that doesn't exist anymore.
03:50:26.000 But they still exist.
03:50:27.000 So they can run.
03:50:28.000 North American antelope can run much faster than any other animal around.
03:50:32.000 So everything else can eat shit.
03:50:34.000 They take off.
03:50:35.000 And those pronghorns take off.
03:50:36.000 They're fucking gone, man.
03:50:37.000 They're so fast.
03:50:38.000 Have you ever seen them in full clip?
03:50:40.000 No, no.
03:50:40.000 They were just standing there, but it was beautiful.
03:50:43.000 It felt like you were kind of like, wait, this doesn't feel...
03:50:46.000 It felt sort of like you were in a different sort of place.
03:50:50.000 They don't belong.
03:50:51.000 They don't belong.
03:50:52.000 They do, obviously, they belong.
03:50:53.000 But they don't belong in the sense that they're from a different time.
03:50:56.000 Their eyes are set on the sides of their head this really weird way where they can literally see almost behind them.
03:51:02.000 Okay.
03:51:03.000 So, like, if this is like an antelope, it's looking here, and you're over here, they see you crystal clear.
03:51:09.000 Okay.
03:51:09.000 Crystal clear.
03:51:10.000 They just don't see you back here.
03:51:11.000 Right, right, right.
03:51:12.000 But right here, they see you 100%.
03:51:13.000 They see you 100% here.
03:51:15.000 They see you in a full range that we can't even comprehend because their eyeballs are out here.
03:51:20.000 They don't even look like they belong here.
03:51:21.000 They look like an avatar.
03:51:22.000 Why are...
03:51:23.000 Why are...
03:51:24.000 Pull up a picture of a pronghorn antelope's face.
03:51:26.000 Antelope.
03:51:26.000 Look at his face.
03:51:29.000 There's some cool close-up ones that show how bizarre their eyes are.
03:51:34.000 Like that one in the upper left hand corner.
03:51:36.000 Click on that.
03:51:37.000 Get close to that.
03:51:38.000 Look at his eyes.
03:51:40.000 See how wide his eyes are behind his head?
03:51:43.000 Where the deer and the antelope play.
03:51:46.000 Fascinating animal.
03:51:47.000 And that animal exists because there was a thing called a North American cheetah.
03:51:53.000 Where the buffalo roams.
03:51:55.000 And the skies are not cloudy all day.
03:52:00.000 Yeah.
03:52:02.000 Antelope.
03:52:03.000 Oh, that's beautiful.
03:52:06.000 You know, it's a...
03:52:07.000 Here's a good question for you, Tom Green.
03:52:10.000 Okay, yes, sir.
03:52:12.000 We don't want animals to go extinct, right?
03:52:15.000 Right.
03:52:15.000 We don't.
03:52:16.000 No one does.
03:52:17.000 But they do.
03:52:18.000 And most of them have gone extinct.
03:52:20.000 We don't want anything to be extinct for sure because of humans.
03:52:23.000 Right.
03:52:24.000 But animals have been going extinct.
03:52:27.000 90% of all animals that have ever existed aren't here anymore.
03:52:30.000 Because there's some weird sort of a contest going on with all of the animals on the planet, us included.
03:52:39.000 Would we be comfortable accepting the fact that we are like a dodo bird?
03:52:49.000 We're some sort of a dying species.
03:52:51.000 I would be comfortable with that.
03:52:52.000 Would you be comfortable with that out there in the middle of nowhere in your van hanging out with Chopper?
03:52:56.000 I assume that's the case, to be honest with you.
03:52:58.000 I think so too.
03:53:00.000 I don't think that's bad for people.
03:53:03.000 I feel the same way I feel about someone saying, do you want to live to be a thousand?
03:53:08.000 I don't want to live to be a thousand.
03:53:10.000 That's a long time.
03:53:11.000 But I don't want to not live to be a thousand.
03:53:13.000 I like life.
03:53:14.000 I like it right now.
03:53:15.000 I'm enjoying it.
03:53:16.000 It's getting a bit repetitive.
03:53:18.000 Well, you're out there in a fucking van, Tom Green, hanging out with your dog every day like Groundhog Day.
03:53:23.000 Yeah.
03:53:26.000 But, yeah.
03:53:27.000 Yeah.
03:53:28.000 No, but I agree.
03:53:29.000 Yeah, it's getting a bit repetitive.
03:53:30.000 But, yeah, no, absolutely.
03:53:31.000 I'd like to live to be a thousand.
03:53:32.000 A thousand's a long time.
03:53:33.000 A thousand?
03:53:34.000 You might be able to figure some shit out.
03:53:35.000 A thousand's a long time.
03:53:36.000 Imagine, though, if you were a thousand and you were dating 18-year-olds, what a creep you would be.
03:53:41.000 Yeah.
03:53:42.000 Would they make a new rule?
03:53:44.000 Right?
03:53:44.000 If you were a thousand-year-old guy and you had an 18-year-old girlfriend, they'd be like, enough, you piece of shit.
03:53:50.000 It doesn't matter what you look like.
03:53:51.000 I don't think it would be that.
03:53:53.000 You know, I think, I think, yeah.
03:53:56.000 Yeah.
03:53:56.000 What do you think?
03:53:57.000 I think...
03:53:59.000 Wow.
03:54:01.000 Chopper's asleep.
03:54:02.000 First of all, I'm looking at Chopper here.
03:54:04.000 I like how you changed her name.
03:54:06.000 You renamed her.
03:54:08.000 You like my Swiss Army knife, Joe?
03:54:09.000 I do.
03:54:10.000 You're out there out in the wilderness, man.
03:54:11.000 My dad gave me that.
03:54:13.000 You could do a lot of shit with this thing.
03:54:14.000 Open cans.
03:54:15.000 When I was a kid, my dad gave me that.
03:54:18.000 Do you use it as a can opener?
03:54:19.000 I do.
03:54:20.000 I have a few times.
03:54:21.000 I bet you do.
03:54:22.000 I remember the first time I ever opened a can with a Swiss Army knife, the can opener one.
03:54:26.000 Oh, yeah.
03:54:27.000 Oh, you know, I actually opened a can of tuna with it the other day.
03:54:32.000 It was oddly satisfying.
03:54:33.000 Because there's been a couple of nights in the last few weeks where I've said, you know what I want to have for dinner tonight?
03:54:40.000 What?
03:54:42.000 I just want to have a can of tuna and I want to go to bed.
03:54:44.000 That's it?
03:54:45.000 Yeah.
03:54:45.000 Do you worry about, like, getting enough food or having food or making sure you're at a place where you can store food?
03:54:53.000 No, no.
03:54:53.000 Is this something you just have, like, a schedule?
03:54:55.000 We buy food on Monday?
03:54:57.000 No, no.
03:54:58.000 I just...
03:55:00.000 No, it's...
03:55:01.000 I mean...
03:55:02.000 No, it's just...
03:55:04.000 It's like I've been just driving around and I've...
03:55:08.000 You know, there's...
03:55:09.000 Shooting squirrels?
03:55:10.000 No, no, but I, you know...
03:55:12.000 Eating rabbits?
03:55:13.000 No, I have not eaten a rabbit, actually.
03:55:15.000 You've never eaten a rabbit?
03:55:16.000 No, I have never, actually.
03:55:17.000 Have you ever had frog legs?
03:55:19.000 Yes, I have.
03:55:20.000 They're pretty goddamn good.
03:55:21.000 Oh, yeah.
03:55:22.000 But you haven't done any fishing where you caught a fish in this whole trip and ate it and...
03:55:27.000 So...
03:55:30.000 You should do that.
03:55:31.000 You should make that a priority.
03:55:32.000 Yeah, for sure.
03:55:32.000 Find a good spot.
03:55:33.000 Because there's something about catching a fish and then eating it right away.
03:55:37.000 Man, it's amazing.
03:55:39.000 I did it in Utah.
03:55:40.000 My friend Brent, we went ice fishing.
03:55:43.000 Caught a rainbow trout.
03:55:44.000 Yeah.
03:55:46.000 Cooked it a couple hours later.
03:55:47.000 It was magical.
03:55:50.000 Yeah.
03:55:53.000 Make you feel like you're self-sustaining out there, Tom Green.
03:55:56.000 Okay, I got a story about that.
03:55:58.000 Please.
03:55:58.000 So I did catch a fish on this trip.
03:56:00.000 Oh, all of a sudden you caught a fish.
03:56:02.000 Yeah, but it was the first fish I caught and it wasn't, you know, it was a sunfish.
03:56:08.000 And it wasn't like I didn't catch it too good.
03:56:11.000 It was kind of a tough situation.
03:56:13.000 So I felt bad, you know, and I just haven't fished again since then.
03:56:18.000 Oh, okay.
03:56:19.000 You know, sunfish are good to eat, right?
03:56:22.000 I grew up, when I was a kid, those, you know, would catch those and the perch and all that.
03:56:26.000 But it's like, yeah, yeah.
03:56:28.000 How come you decided not to cook it?
03:56:30.000 And keep it?
03:56:32.000 Well, no, it was...
03:56:33.000 This last time?
03:56:36.000 The only time I know of.
03:56:37.000 It was just...
03:56:39.000 I wasn't really fishing for a sunfish, you know?
03:56:42.000 I was trying to catch a bass or a trout or something.
03:56:45.000 Something larger?
03:56:46.000 Yeah, and I got a little sunfish.
03:56:48.000 You decided not to keep it?
03:56:49.000 Yeah.
03:56:50.000 Yeah, that's the problem with not keeping it.
03:56:52.000 There was nothing you could do, though.
03:56:55.000 I hear you.
03:56:57.000 Why don't you just keep it?
03:56:58.000 Cook it.
03:56:59.000 Yeah.
03:57:00.000 Well, I wasn't.
03:57:01.000 I guess I could have probably still...
03:57:04.000 Was it of legal size or was it tiny?
03:57:06.000 No, it was just, you know, you kind of figured, okay, well, it'll probably like...
03:57:11.000 I thought I figured it probably would have lived, you know, so I let it go.
03:57:16.000 I released it.
03:57:17.000 A lot of catch and release fish don't live.
03:57:19.000 Yeah.
03:57:20.000 I was hoping it would, though.
03:57:21.000 Fishing is a weird thing, man, right?
03:57:23.000 I don't like it.
03:57:24.000 You're standing on the edge of a world, and you're throwing in a trick.
03:57:27.000 So that's what I'm saying.
03:57:28.000 So listen, here's the thing, okay?
03:57:30.000 So.
03:57:31.000 Okay.
03:57:31.000 Now we're talking about this.
03:57:33.000 What are we talking about?
03:57:34.000 I did that as a kid.
03:57:36.000 As a kid in Canada, I would go onto a wharf in the middle of a lake.
03:57:43.000 Lower Beverly Lake.
03:57:44.000 This is where I grew up when I was a kid.
03:57:46.000 Check this out.
03:57:47.000 This is an obscure geological place.
03:57:49.000 Lower Beverly Lake, Canada.
03:57:53.000 And I grew up there and we would go there and me and my friends, we would catch Northern Pike.
03:57:57.000 I love Northern Pike.
03:57:58.000 Off the dock.
03:57:59.000 We'd catch like five a day.
03:58:01.000 Awesome fish.
03:58:02.000 Fish this big.
03:58:04.000 And then, you know, you would eat them.
03:58:06.000 They taste good.
03:58:07.000 Their bones are shaped like Y's.
03:58:10.000 They're little Y's.
03:58:14.000 They're a little bony, like when you're eating them.
03:58:18.000 You've got to pick out some bones.
03:58:19.000 Largemouth bass is like a sea bass.
03:58:22.000 It's the Canadian sea bass.
03:58:25.000 And that was a delicious thing.
03:58:27.000 You know what they say that largemouth bass in particular, they taste better in cold water?
03:58:31.000 Uh-huh.
03:58:31.000 Like cold water bass, like what you would catch where you live versus what someone would catch in Florida.
03:58:36.000 Yours would taste better.
03:58:37.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:58:38.000 It's interesting.
03:58:38.000 I don't know if that's true.
03:58:39.000 Did they say that?
03:58:39.000 Yeah.
03:58:40.000 I've heard that.
03:58:41.000 I don't know if it's true.
03:58:41.000 Smallmouth bass are supposed to taste better than largemouth bass.
03:58:44.000 And so the smallmouth bass put up a better fight than the largemouth bass.
03:58:48.000 Yeah, that's what everybody says.
03:58:49.000 They're more aggressive.
03:58:51.000 Uh-huh.
03:58:51.000 Yeah.
03:58:52.000 So you could get like a two-pound smallmouth that's going to like...
03:58:56.000 And people prefer them to eat too.
03:58:59.000 The people that eat bass, yeah, they prefer smallmouth over largemouth.
03:59:02.000 I don't know enough, but yeah, that's the word.
03:59:06.000 Smallmouth bass is supposed to taste better than largemouth bass.
03:59:09.000 So it's pretty crazy.
03:59:11.000 And then so, like, you know, but like catfish, I've got a few of them in my day as well.
03:59:18.000 Catfish are awesome.
03:59:19.000 You ever see those people that go noodling?
03:59:20.000 Would you do that?
03:59:21.000 I would do that, yeah.
03:59:22.000 Would you?
03:59:22.000 You don't give a fuck about your fingers, huh?
03:59:24.000 I don't give a fuck.
03:59:25.000 What about snapping turtles, son?
03:59:26.000 You ever think of that?
03:59:28.000 That moment Tom Green realizes his fucking hand is in the grip of a shelled dinosaur.
03:59:35.000 I can tell you.
03:59:36.000 I have snapping turtle stories.
03:59:40.000 I've been in front of snapping turtles as a kid, and you realize, it's like, oh, this thing's head's the size of a coconut.
03:59:48.000 And it's going to bite your dick.
03:59:50.000 Yeah.
03:59:51.000 I'm staying away from that.
03:59:52.000 So it's kind of pretty interesting when you're...
03:59:58.000 I saw a snapping turtle when I was a kid.
04:00:01.000 I was living in Florida, so I had to be between 11 and 13. And we saw this snapping turtle in the middle of the forest.
04:00:07.000 We were poking at it.
04:00:08.000 It was snapping at us.
04:00:08.000 I was like, oh my god.
04:00:10.000 It was so big, it almost seemed like somebody's pet that they just like, fuck this thing.
04:00:14.000 And they just let it go.
04:00:15.000 Which people do in Florida.
04:00:16.000 That's why they have all those pythons everywhere.
04:00:18.000 You know, they have pythons everywhere in Florida.
04:00:20.000 They caught an 18-foot long one the other day.
04:00:23.000 Yeah.
04:00:24.000 They have alligators everywhere.
04:00:26.000 Yeah.
04:00:26.000 When I was a kid, I saw a fucking snapping turtle, and I remember thinking, like, what?
04:00:31.000 Yeah.
04:00:31.000 Like, what is this thing doing, just wandering around where people live?
04:00:34.000 But the snapping turtle is the only, like, kind of, like, weird sort of, like, you know, like when you talk about crocodiles and...
04:00:42.000 Have you ever seen a crocodile snapping turtle?
04:00:45.000 Mm-mm.
04:00:47.000 Jamie.
04:00:48.000 Crocodile snapping turtle, son.
04:00:50.000 Get ready for the next level of horror.
04:00:52.000 Right?
04:00:52.000 Snapping turtle has an ugly cousin.
04:00:55.000 And the ugly, meaner, more demonic cousin is the alligator snapping turtle.
04:01:01.000 Look at that fucking thing!
04:01:03.000 Wow.
04:01:04.000 Was I joking?
04:01:05.000 Imagine, that big thing is trying to bite your foot.
04:01:08.000 Okay, so that actually looks like a snapping turtle, so that's what I'm talking about.
04:01:12.000 Dude.
04:01:12.000 Yeah, so I grew up with...
04:01:14.000 The one on the right is a snapping turtle.
04:01:15.000 I saw those when I was a kid.
04:01:17.000 The one on the left is an alligator snapping turtle.
04:01:20.000 I remember my dad and I, we were camping, and this thing came up, and I was like, wow, that's like an alligator snapping turtle.
04:01:30.000 And you're a kid, and you're in, like, Canada, and there's think-and-watches.
04:01:33.000 You saw one of those?
04:01:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:01:35.000 Where do those things live, Jamie?
04:01:36.000 What's their range?
04:01:37.000 They're all over.
04:01:38.000 I've never seen one of those in a while, but I would shit my pants if I saw that fucking monster.
04:01:43.000 Oh, yeah, and they swim up, and you're sitting there going, like, well, that thing's the head's the side of a, you know, like, that could probably potentially hurt.
04:01:50.000 I saw a regular snapping turtle.
04:01:51.000 The one I saw when I was a kid, it was a regular one.
04:01:53.000 It wasn't that big.
04:01:54.000 Nothing like that thing.
04:01:56.000 The mouth on that thing.
04:01:58.000 It's primarily southeastern U.S. Florida Panhandle to East Texas.
04:02:04.000 Wow.
04:02:04.000 Okay, well, what's a snapping turtle that's in Ontario?
04:02:07.000 You know what, man?
04:02:09.000 How old were you when you saw this?
04:02:11.000 I don't know.
04:02:12.000 It's like...
04:02:14.000 Six?
04:02:15.000 Yeah.
04:02:16.000 Imagine how little you are and how big that is and your little six-year-old memory.
04:02:20.000 It's probably a regular snapping turtle, but it just seemed like the size of a fucking building.
04:02:24.000 So I can describe the exact scenario, okay?
04:02:27.000 Check it out.
04:02:27.000 This is what happened.
04:02:28.000 Okay.
04:02:29.000 I think about this a lot.
04:02:31.000 The snapping turtle story?
04:02:32.000 No, I think about this in my life.
04:02:34.000 It's one of those beautiful memories that you think about in your life and go, wow, that's cool.
04:02:37.000 That's when you realize how the fucking world worked.
04:02:39.000 Me and my dad, we jumped in a canoe.
04:02:44.000 Did you really jump in or did you step in carefully?
04:02:48.000 My dad and I got in a canoe and we went out and we went fishing.
04:02:51.000 We went fishing.
04:02:53.000 We went over to the other side and we set up a tent and We camped out.
04:02:57.000 We went fishing.
04:02:58.000 We caught two largemouth bass.
04:03:00.000 And it was an amazing night.
04:03:02.000 And it was a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful time.
04:03:06.000 That's it?
04:03:07.000 Yeah.
04:03:09.000 Oh, no, no.
04:03:10.000 Oh, so, no, no.
04:03:11.000 Sorry.
04:03:12.000 I forgot what I was going to say, actually.
04:03:13.000 Something about snapping turtles, right?
04:03:15.000 Yeah, you're right.
04:03:16.000 Yeah, you just said, that's it, and you forgot the snapping turtle part.
04:03:19.000 No, no.
04:03:19.000 No, no.
04:03:20.000 Listen.
04:03:20.000 So, listen.
04:03:21.000 This is what happened.
04:03:22.000 We went out to this island.
04:03:23.000 We went out to this island.
04:03:25.000 Okay.
04:03:25.000 And I remember...
04:03:26.000 Okay, so...
04:03:29.000 We're shaking hands?
04:03:30.000 Yeah.
04:03:30.000 How drunk are you, bro?
04:03:31.000 Very drunk.
04:03:32.000 All right.
04:03:33.000 Yeah.
04:03:33.000 No, I'm great.
04:03:34.000 I'm good.
04:03:35.000 I'm good.
04:03:35.000 Cheers.
04:03:36.000 I'm great.
04:03:37.000 I'm good.
04:03:39.000 I'm in control.
04:03:41.000 I understand.
04:03:42.000 Well, cheers again.
04:03:43.000 I'm good.
04:03:43.000 I'm not very drunk.
04:03:45.000 I'm great drunk.
04:03:46.000 I'm great drunk.
04:03:46.000 You're a good man.
04:03:47.000 This is like one of the all-time good times ever.
04:03:49.000 Listen, you know I love you.
04:03:50.000 Like when you put it down like in a book, you go like, what was the best time ever?
04:03:54.000 This was the best time.
04:03:56.000 Let's give it like top 20. Yeah, absolutely.
04:03:59.000 We don't have to make it the best.
04:04:00.000 Put so much pressure on ourselves.
04:04:01.000 Good time.
04:04:02.000 Good time.
04:04:03.000 Yeah.
04:04:05.000 So what's the goal for the end of this walkabout, this motor vehicle powered walkabout?
04:04:10.000 When are you going to bring this dock, this boat into the dock?
04:04:14.000 I'm gonna just...
04:04:17.000 I don't know.
04:04:18.000 I'm not sure actually, to be honest with you.
04:04:21.000 I don't know.
04:04:22.000 I don't know.
04:04:23.000 I definitely am gonna go see my fam up in Canada at some point.
04:04:30.000 Are you allowed to drive to Canada right now?
04:04:32.000 Yes.
04:04:33.000 How's that work?
04:04:33.000 Because you have a double ID? Because you're a fucking spy?
04:04:37.000 You're so like, on, you're like, you're like, very, like, in tune with everything, aren't you?
04:04:45.000 What do you mean?
04:04:46.000 Like, it's like, it's like, like, yeah, of course.
04:04:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.
04:04:50.000 But you're just so like, Joe, like, I mean, yeah, absolutely.
04:04:53.000 How are you so connected with everything?
04:04:56.000 What am I connecting with?
04:04:57.000 I'm just asking if you have a dual citizenship passport thing where you can get into Canada.
04:05:01.000 It's cool that you listen to things.
04:05:02.000 Because here's the thing.
04:05:03.000 When you stand up, you're traveling around the country and you go to all these shows and everyone's interviewing.
04:05:10.000 But you listen and connect with people.
04:05:14.000 How did you realize that you knew how to connect with people?
04:05:18.000 I learned I'd do it.
04:05:19.000 I wasn't very good at it at first.
04:05:21.000 Honestly.
04:05:22.000 I'd fuck conversations up because I would talk when I didn't want...
04:05:25.000 I shouldn't have talked.
04:05:26.000 Like, you don't realize it while you're doing it.
04:05:28.000 You're not trying to be an asshole.
04:05:30.000 You're trying to just get...
04:05:31.000 You have an idea in your head.
04:05:32.000 You just don't know how to...
04:05:33.000 You don't know how to seamlessly integrate your ideas into a conversation with someone else's ideas.
04:05:43.000 There's a dance going on.
04:05:45.000 And the dance is not just what you want to say.
04:05:48.000 And some comedians, they do it very poorly because all they think about is what they want to say.
04:05:53.000 They don't think about what you're saying.
04:05:54.000 And if they don't think about what you're saying, then they're not really dance partners.
04:05:59.000 They just expect you to move with them.
04:06:00.000 And I've been that person before.
04:06:02.000 We've all been that person before.
04:06:04.000 It's not the right way to communicate with people.
04:06:06.000 So you learn over time that part of the dance...
04:06:11.000 You have to like the person.
04:06:12.000 You have to listen to what they say.
04:06:14.000 You have to give them some love.
04:06:15.000 You have to be interested in what they're saying genuinely.
04:06:18.000 You have to be in tune on the same idea.
04:06:21.000 So if you're telling me about an idea, I'm listening to this, I've got to be in tune with you, the way you're thinking.
04:06:26.000 I can't just be waiting to say what I want to say.
04:06:29.000 A lot of comedians are just waiting to say what they want to say.
04:06:32.000 They're not trying to help you get the most out of what you're saying.
04:06:36.000 Yeah, Jack Benny was Johnny Carson's idol and hero.
04:06:44.000 And Jack Benny would often have on all these great comedians of the day and people would say, you know, how do you feel?
04:06:54.000 They're getting all the laughs.
04:06:55.000 And you say, yeah, but it's my show, right?
04:06:57.000 Yeah.
04:06:59.000 It's my show.
04:07:00.000 So it was like, yeah.
04:07:02.000 Well, here's the problem, man.
04:07:03.000 Yeah.
04:07:05.000 You could look at it that way.
04:07:07.000 But that doesn't help you as much, or I should say, it didn't help me as much as looking at it like, I don't...
04:07:18.000 I don't have any control currently over what's more funny in the moment nor should I want it to be me.
04:07:25.000 What I should want to do in the moment is laugh at things that are funny.
04:07:31.000 And not think, while I'm laughing at something that's hilarious, why am I not the funniest one in the room?
04:07:37.000 You can't think like that.
04:07:39.000 It doesn't do you or the moment any good.
04:07:42.000 It certainly doesn't do the person who's got a really funny thing to say.
04:07:45.000 When you grow up in stand-up, because a lot of my growth in stand-up is hanging out with Joey Diaz.
04:07:53.000 When you're hanging out with Joey Diaz, you're always the second funniest person, no matter who you are.
04:07:57.000 He's just the funniest guy that's ever lived.
04:07:59.000 So that helped, too.
04:08:01.000 Being around Joey, you're never thinking, I have to be the funniest.
04:08:05.000 All you're thinking of is let Joey be as funny as he can, and then just do it yourself, but your job when you're around someone like Joey is just let him be as funny as he can.
04:08:18.000 Just give him as much encouragement as you can give him.
04:08:21.000 Let him be as funny as he can.
04:08:24.000 Because when you're encouraging him, he's free.
04:08:27.000 He's supported, he's loved, and he's free.
04:08:29.000 And then he becomes the funniest guy that ever lived.
04:08:31.000 So that probably gave you a lot of freedom, though.
04:08:32.000 Because then you could fuck around and just be hilarious in that...
04:08:39.000 Area where he's he was carrying a lot of that energy, right?
04:08:43.000 Well, you can also just kind of give you a joy support system like he created a nice support energy like that was this was the area that you grew up in.
04:08:50.000 Well, you all feed off each other for sure.
04:08:53.000 Yeah, everyone feeds off everyone's Particular thing that they're really good at or success that they're having.
04:09:01.000 Everyone feeds off of it.
04:09:02.000 Everyone works it in together.
04:09:05.000 But there was a thing about Joey where he was so funny and so ridiculous that he made other things more ridiculous.
04:09:11.000 He made other people's bits more ridiculous.
04:09:13.000 He was so far into I don't give a fuck land.
04:09:18.000 He was so down the road that you were yelling at him, Where are you going?
04:09:22.000 And he was like, come on, cocksucker!
04:09:24.000 Follow me!
04:09:25.000 He was so far ahead.
04:09:27.000 He was so deep into I don't give a fuck land.
04:09:30.000 Right, right.
04:09:32.000 My point is, with all things, whether it's with podcasting or with stand-up comedy or with martial arts or with basically anything you do, We're all a mix of all the people that we've met and their influence as well as who we are and what our own expression is.
04:09:48.000 But we're a mix of all these other people.
04:09:51.000 There's so many fucking people that influence you.
04:09:54.000 We're not autonomous.
04:09:55.000 We're not alone.
04:09:57.000 We're never.
04:09:58.000 And that's good and bad.
04:10:00.000 The bad part is people know that they can influence you because they know that you're not alone.
04:10:05.000 That's where bad comments come into play.
04:10:07.000 The only reason why it's a negative thing is because it makes you feel bad.
04:10:11.000 And the only reason why it makes you feel bad is because that's the intention of the person who's doing it.
04:10:16.000 It's a thing that people do because we aren't all alone.
04:10:20.000 We can reach out blindly and infect each other and hurt each other and smash.
04:10:25.000 We can do it.
04:10:26.000 We can reach out blindly because we're weirdly connected in some way that we want to ignore.
04:10:31.000 That's why it hurts when you read shitty comments.
04:10:34.000 Yeah.
04:10:35.000 Because we're weirdly connected in some previously not completely understood way.
04:10:41.000 And you could just decide to not look at them?
04:10:43.000 Yes.
04:10:45.000 Just like you can decide to work out.
04:10:47.000 Just like you can decide to drink only water for a month.
04:10:50.000 Just like you can decide to eat only ribeye steaks for a month.
04:10:53.000 Just like you can decide to run a mile a day for a month.
04:10:56.000 Just like you can do a thousand push-ups a month.
04:10:59.000 You can do whatever the fuck you want, Tom Green.
04:11:01.000 You just have to decide that's what you're doing.
04:11:02.000 I can do a thousand push-ups.
04:11:03.000 I bet.
04:11:04.000 You could.
04:11:05.000 I can.
04:11:05.000 That's the key.
04:11:06.000 The key is for sure you could.
04:11:08.000 That's not that much.
04:11:08.000 I mean, I'm not sure if I could this month, but maybe next month.
04:11:12.000 Well, a thousand, that's, you know, a hundred a day for ten days.
04:11:14.000 That's not that bad.
04:11:16.000 Okay, next, maybe next month.
04:11:17.000 You could do a thousand pretty easy.
04:11:19.000 I could probably do ten push-ups.
04:11:22.000 You've got to do what?
04:11:23.000 33 a day?
04:11:24.000 33 a day is a thousand in a month?
04:11:26.000 33. 33 push-ups a day.
04:11:28.000 Can I do push-ups right now?
04:11:29.000 Sure, you could.
04:11:29.000 But why would we do that?
04:11:31.000 I mean, how drunk are you that we're really going to bring ourselves to that?
04:11:34.000 I'm pretty drunk.
04:11:35.000 Plus, this podcast is like 8 hours old, right?
04:11:37.000 How many hours is it, Jamie?
04:11:39.000 4.15.
04:11:40.000 It'd be funny.
04:11:41.000 It'd be funny to do something.
04:11:42.000 It's kind of long.
04:11:42.000 To do push-ups?
04:11:44.000 It'd be funny at this point.
04:11:45.000 I don't think it would be.
04:11:46.000 Okay, alright.
04:11:47.000 But I understand.
04:11:48.000 I won't do it.
04:11:49.000 Cheers.
04:11:53.000 So that's what I... How did we get to that?
04:11:56.000 About push-ups and getting up in the morning.
04:11:58.000 Where did that come from?
04:12:01.000 Check it out.
04:12:02.000 I'm going to do something, okay?
04:12:03.000 No.
04:12:04.000 Watch.
04:12:04.000 Let's end this.
04:12:05.000 Close it.
04:12:05.000 Close it down, Jamie.
04:12:07.000 He's going to do something.
04:12:08.000 He's going to regret.
04:12:08.000 No, you can if you want.
04:12:10.000 I'm just joking.
04:12:11.000 You want to do push-ups?
04:12:11.000 Yeah, yeah, let me do something.
04:12:12.000 Okay.
04:12:13.000 Come on.
04:12:13.000 What are you going to do?
04:12:14.000 There won't be a camera on you, though.
04:12:16.000 Charlie's chilling.
04:12:17.000 How many push-ups are you going to try to do?
04:12:19.000 Don't hurt yourself.
04:12:20.000 Let's see if I can do 10. Okay.
04:12:23.000 That's reasonable.
04:12:24.000 I like what he said.
04:12:24.000 He said, let's see if I can do 10. That's a very reasonable thing to say.
04:12:28.000 Yeah.
04:12:29.000 Yes.
04:12:29.000 Okay, go ahead.
04:12:31.000 Alright, let's see.
04:12:33.000 Ready?
04:12:34.000 One.
04:12:34.000 Tom Green, ladies and gentlemen, he will be appearing at a truck stop near you.
04:12:39.000 If you're in upper northern Utah, near the trailhead, holla at him.
04:12:47.000 He has a podcast.
04:12:49.000 Oh my god, what were those noises?
04:12:52.000 Oh, that was her.
04:12:53.000 Oh my god.
04:12:53.000 Your dog was shaking her ears.
04:12:55.000 I thought it was your back cracking.
04:12:58.000 I just did ten push-ups.
04:12:59.000 Congratulations.
04:13:00.000 I literally thought that was your back cracking.
04:13:02.000 No, no.
04:13:03.000 I was like, he's going to die, and it's going to be my fault that I didn't stop him.
04:13:07.000 Oh, Charlie.
04:13:07.000 Charlie.
04:13:08.000 Chopper, bro.
04:13:09.000 Her name is Chopper.
04:13:10.000 Chopper, yeah.
04:13:11.000 No, Joe.
04:13:13.000 Thanks, man.
04:13:14.000 Thank you, Tom Green.
04:13:15.000 Listen, thank you originally for inspiring me, because you really did.
04:13:19.000 The day that Red Band and I went to your studio, and I saw your house and how you had it set up, that was one of the first seeds And I was on Fear Factor back then, but I remember wandering around your place, how you had it set up, and you were very gracious and very hospitable and took us around.
04:13:35.000 You were an awesome host, and you were so happy that you did this.
04:13:39.000 You wanted to show everybody.
04:13:40.000 It was a cool thing.
04:13:41.000 We left there going, God, first of all, God damn, how nice is Tom Green?
04:13:45.000 We both said that.
04:13:47.000 And they were like, how cool is what he's doing?
04:13:49.000 It made me think that that could be done.
04:13:51.000 So Red Band and I, we were in...
04:13:54.000 So Red Band, you know...
04:13:58.000 He's moving here.
04:14:00.000 Yeah, I know.
04:14:01.000 I knew that, yeah.
04:14:04.000 You guys are like taking over Austin, right?
04:14:06.000 No, we don't want to take over anything.
04:14:08.000 We just happen to be moving here.
04:14:10.000 You love this place.
04:14:11.000 No, I'm just saying in a positive way, you love it.
04:14:14.000 You love Austin.
04:14:14.000 Yeah, we do love it.
04:14:15.000 When we saw your place, dude, with the servers and the fucking...
04:14:18.000 You got to think, what year was it that you were doing this?
04:14:22.000 So Red Band and I were in San Diego.
04:14:25.000 In your house.
04:14:25.000 What year were you doing it?
04:14:26.000 Oh, 2004?
04:14:30.000 2005, maybe.
04:14:32.000 So, you have to think, folks.
04:14:33.000 It's not possible to do this show with YouTube.
04:14:36.000 It's not possible to do this show with...
04:14:39.000 You know, there's no social media to speak of.
04:14:42.000 You can't really stream anywhere.
04:14:44.000 So Tom Green decides to do a website where you can stream it from a website.
04:14:49.000 Like, you were miles ahead of...
04:14:52.000 So it's like when I was saying about my dad earlier, right?
04:14:56.000 My dad was a tank commander, right?
04:14:58.000 And so in the Canadian military, when he was finished doing the tank, he was working, tank commanding, he was working with the Department of National Defense and computers, right?
04:15:10.000 COBOL computers.
04:15:15.000 Computers have always been around up in Canada.
04:15:17.000 But it wasn't just computers, dude.
04:15:19.000 It was the idea to do a show on the internet.
04:15:22.000 I even met with the people that you were working with back then.
04:15:25.000 Remember you were working with a group of people that hosted the website and did all the logistics and everything?
04:15:30.000 I met with them in Denver.
04:15:32.000 Oh, yeah.
04:15:33.000 But I remember thinking, I don't have the time for this.
04:15:35.000 This is too much.
04:15:36.000 I was thinking about this.
04:15:39.000 For whatever reason, I wasn't ready for doing it.
04:15:41.000 And then we started doing some stuff on Justin TV, and then we eventually went to Ustream, and then it went to iTunes and YouTube.
04:15:48.000 Because it was a very obscure space back then.
04:15:50.000 There wasn't many people even thinking about it, but it was still kind of...
04:15:54.000 But it was 100% inspired by you.
04:15:56.000 100%.
04:15:57.000 It was inspired by you and inspired by Opie and Anthony.
04:16:00.000 You because you did it on your own and Opie and Anthony because they created the hang.
04:16:05.000 And then Anthony Cumia did a show in his house called Live from the Compound where he would play karaoke holding a machine gun.
04:16:13.000 He had a green screen behind him.
04:16:14.000 It was madness.
04:16:15.000 Okay.
04:16:16.000 Madness.
04:16:17.000 He was doing it by himself.
04:16:18.000 He was just having fun, being silly.
04:16:20.000 Right.
04:16:20.000 And he did it.
04:16:21.000 I believe he was on Ustream.
04:16:22.000 I believe Live from the Compound was on Ustream.
04:16:26.000 We're good to go.
04:16:40.000 Decided they didn't like it.
04:16:41.000 Because he was on the Opie and Anthony show and they were like, listen, you can't do that too.
04:16:46.000 And he was like, but it's just an advertisement for my show.
04:16:48.000 It's not hurting anybody.
04:16:50.000 They didn't want him to do it.
04:16:51.000 And then it became like a big sticking point.
04:16:54.000 And then eventually he wound up doing Compound Media.
04:16:57.000 But Live from the Compound was the original show.
04:17:00.000 So those are the, in order, the things that influenced me to do the podcast.
04:17:03.000 Number one, your show.
04:17:05.000 Number two, Opie and Anthony.
04:17:06.000 They're both interchangeable because they're both around the same time.
04:17:09.000 And then after that, Live from the Compound.
04:17:11.000 Because I remember seeing that going, oh, okay.
04:17:14.000 Because this can be done way cheaper than what Tom Green is doing.
04:17:17.000 I'm like, what Tom Green is doing requires businesses to get involved.
04:17:20.000 But what Live from the Compound was doing on Ustream, he just spent a lot of money and developed his own studio.
04:17:25.000 He put his own green screen.
04:17:26.000 He had his own professional microphones like this kind of set up.
04:17:29.000 But he did it all.
04:17:29.000 He was the pioneer.
04:17:31.000 Anthony Cumia was doing it in his house, in his basement, way before everybody else.
04:17:36.000 Why do you think...
04:17:37.000 We just happened to be on the edge of the time when it became like, oh, there was an opportunity to actually speak out and have your own opinion, right?
04:17:48.000 Before that.
04:17:49.000 Well, also, we got super lucky with platforms.
04:17:52.000 Like, you didn't get super lucky, but I got super lucky that I met you.
04:17:56.000 And I'm not bullshitting.
04:17:57.000 Because you decided to do it yourself.
04:17:59.000 And I remember thinking, like, oh, this can be done.
04:18:02.000 Like, you have to sometimes see someone do it.
04:18:04.000 Yeah.
04:18:05.000 See someone's house where you had your living room with fucking all these cables run from these servers all the way to your machine.
04:18:12.000 I remember that.
04:18:13.000 I was like, oh my god, this is nuts.
04:18:14.000 It's like my van right now, by the way.
04:18:16.000 It was like a TV studio.
04:18:18.000 You gotta come check out my van, man.
04:18:19.000 If you go to film...
04:18:21.000 You got cables in the van.
04:18:22.000 I believe you.
04:18:23.000 I'm running cables.
04:18:24.000 I'm proud of the way the cables are running the van.
04:18:26.000 If you were going to the Kimmel show and you were watching how they film it, there's cables on the ground, there's cameras, they're on dollies, and people are moving shit around.
04:18:34.000 I'm like, your fucking house looks like a set.
04:18:37.000 And I was like, how?
04:18:38.000 He can do it himself.
04:18:40.000 I remember thinking, this is not ready yet, but there's going to be something that happens out of this.
04:18:47.000 And I remember thinking, look, I remember we talked about it.
04:18:49.000 There's a video of you and I talk about it, saying, you're right, like you got it nailed.
04:18:53.000 Me, I'm sitting on your couch.
04:18:55.000 And I'm like, Tom Green, you're doing this right.
04:18:57.000 Fuck all these executives and all these people telling you what to do and what to say.
04:19:02.000 They get in the way.
04:19:04.000 The people that are important, the folks at home, what they want to listen to is what's coming out of your mouth.
04:19:10.000 Whether you're right or wrong, Whether it's good or bad, they want it to be you.
04:19:14.000 And as soon as you have a bunch of people chiming in, and a bunch of fucking...
04:19:18.000 You're not even talking about writers or creative folks.
04:19:22.000 You're talking about business people that are doing it just based simply on whether or not they think you can be more successful.
04:19:27.000 If you want to keep doing this, you want to keep being...
04:19:30.000 You were the first guy to figure out how to do it without those people.
04:19:33.000 And I remember sitting in your living room.
04:19:36.000 Right by your desk going, whoa.
04:19:38.000 Alright.
04:19:39.000 I remember thinking, look at this.
04:19:41.000 Tom Green figured it out.
04:19:42.000 I remember thinking, this is going to be a path.
04:19:44.000 But it wasn't ready yet.
04:19:45.000 I was like, there's just not enough people have the bandwidth to watch it.
04:19:49.000 Not enough people understand what it is.
04:19:52.000 It was a small window, but it made me very interested.
04:19:57.000 I'm pausing for a moment, and I'm bringing myself back to that time, and I remember that day.
04:20:05.000 It's so cool, man.
04:20:06.000 How long ago was that?
04:20:07.000 It's a long time, my friend.
04:20:09.000 How long ago was that?
04:20:09.000 17 years.
04:20:11.000 Yeah, that's cool.
04:20:12.000 I remember being in there.
04:20:13.000 It was cool.
04:20:15.000 He's got it.
04:20:15.000 He's got it.
04:20:16.000 He's figured it out.
04:20:17.000 You came up and there was like, you know, you talked to Entertainment Tonight or something.
04:20:24.000 Yeah, that's right.
04:20:25.000 They were there and I was saying that it's the future.
04:20:27.000 There was a video on Entertainment Tonight from like 19...
04:20:31.000 What year was that?
04:20:32.000 19...
04:20:33.000 Well, it had to be 2003. Yeah.
04:20:36.000 Right?
04:20:36.000 There's a video.
04:20:38.000 That's it.
04:20:38.000 That's my house.
04:20:39.000 That's my living room right there.
04:20:41.000 Let's hear this.
04:20:41.000 That's what I'm talking about.
04:20:42.000 This is my living room.
04:20:44.000 I was talking the same stupid shit even back then.
04:20:46.000 That's my living room, and that's still my house today.
04:20:49.000 Wow.
04:20:51.000 Look at your house, dude.
04:20:53.000 Yeah.
04:20:53.000 I made them eat my own poo?
04:21:06.000 Dude, this is basically a podcast.
04:21:12.000 We were doing a podcast back in 2003. Dude, this is you and me 17 years ago.
04:21:21.000 Oh my gosh.
04:21:22.000 Wow, holy shit, that was you?
04:21:24.000 I didn't even recognize you.
04:21:26.000 Beautiful, dark beard.
04:21:27.000 Look how dark.
04:21:28.000 I look so silky smooth.
04:21:30.000 Yeah, there you go.
04:21:31.000 And you said all this cool stuff, and you were like, you know, you were hosting Fear Factor then, I think, right?
04:21:41.000 Yeah, I just started doing Fear Factor.
04:21:43.000 But I remember thinking when I was there, like, you got it nailed.
04:21:46.000 But that's still my house.
04:21:47.000 You can't play it because if you play it, it'll get pulled even though it's me talking.
04:21:52.000 No, it's probably Access Hollywood.
04:21:54.000 It's probably their video.
04:21:55.000 That photo, that older gentleman in the background, I took that photo when I was in college.
04:22:00.000 Who is he?
04:22:00.000 So when I was in college, we had to do an assignment, go take some photos.
04:22:05.000 So I went out in the streets of Toronto.
04:22:08.000 You just met that gentleman?
04:22:09.000 Yeah, it was in the city of Toronto.
04:22:12.000 Do you remember his name?
04:22:13.000 I do not know.
04:22:14.000 He was one of...
04:22:16.000 You want to call him something?
04:22:17.000 You want to call him Harry?
04:22:18.000 Let's call him Harry.
04:22:19.000 Harry.
04:22:20.000 Thank you, Harry.
04:22:20.000 No, but I was just a guy I took...
04:22:22.000 Oh, look, there you are, Joe.
04:22:23.000 Look at you, fella.
04:22:24.000 Look at your place.
04:22:25.000 That's cool.
04:22:26.000 Look at you, TomGreen.com.
04:22:27.000 Look at back when TVs had those big-ass thick bezels.
04:22:29.000 That's still my house, by the way.
04:22:30.000 Isn't that funny?
04:22:30.000 That's still where I... Let the haters and fucking stalkers know.
04:22:34.000 They can still find you.
04:22:36.000 It's kind of funny that it was 17 years ago, my friend.
04:22:39.000 And here we are, we're still basically doing the same kind of thing.
04:22:43.000 Yeah, it's cool, man.
04:22:44.000 It's so cool, man.
04:22:46.000 I appreciate it.
04:22:48.000 I really do love what you guys are doing.
04:22:51.000 And Jamie, I'm so glad you're doing good and you're feeling better.
04:22:56.000 He felt bad for about 14 hours.
04:22:58.000 Yeah.
04:22:59.000 And even then it wasn't that bad.
04:23:00.000 I'm glad you're not feeling too bad.
04:23:03.000 Despite what Donnell Rawlings thinks, he's very strong.
04:23:06.000 Very fit.
04:23:07.000 Yeah.
04:23:08.000 Yeah.
04:23:09.000 Did you?
04:23:10.000 And...
04:23:13.000 Inside joke, Tom Green.
04:23:15.000 Slept right by ya.
04:23:17.000 But I'm glad he's doing good.
04:23:20.000 He's great.
04:23:20.000 Yeah, he was only sick for a little bit.
04:23:22.000 We didn't even think he really had it.
04:23:23.000 We thought he had some sort of allergies.
04:23:25.000 Yeah.
04:23:26.000 Got lucky.
04:23:27.000 My gosh.
04:23:28.000 Well, listen, this is amazing.
04:23:30.000 Tom Green, stay gold, pony boy.
04:23:32.000 Joe.
04:23:33.000 It's always good hanging out with you, my friend.
04:23:34.000 And again, thank you for everything.
04:23:37.000 Thank you for being one of the most important initial inspirations.
04:23:41.000 I love you, Joe.
04:23:42.000 I love you too, Tom Green.
04:23:42.000 I love you.
04:23:43.000 I love you too.
04:23:43.000 I really do.
04:23:44.000 I love you.
04:23:45.000 I appreciate it.
04:23:46.000 You've always been a good guy.
04:23:47.000 Always.
04:23:47.000 I've known you for two decades now.
04:23:50.000 You've always been super cool.
04:23:51.000 Likewise.
04:23:51.000 Thank you.
04:23:52.000 My pleasure.
04:23:53.000 I appreciate it.
04:23:54.000 We've known each other a long time, man.
04:23:56.000 That's kind of crazy when you stop and think about it.
04:23:59.000 It's a long time, Tom Green.
04:24:01.000 But I appreciate you very much.
04:24:03.000 And everything I'm saying is sincere.
04:24:04.000 You were one of the most absolutely important inspirations for me.
04:24:12.000 Wow.
04:24:13.000 You did it, dude.
04:24:14.000 Class act, Joe Rogan.
04:24:15.000 You did it, dude, before anybody, and I'm glad you're still doing it.
04:24:18.000 So tell everybody about your podcast you're doing right now.
04:24:21.000 Yeah, I can go to the Tom Green interview.
04:24:23.000 Google that in quotes, the Tom Green interview.
04:24:25.000 That's going to bring you directly to the current show that I'm doing.
04:24:28.000 And it's...
04:24:29.000 I love...
04:24:30.000 First of all, I love...
04:24:33.000 What you do, Joe, I love what you do.
04:24:36.000 I love interviewing people.
04:24:37.000 I do really love sitting down with somebody and talking to them and getting into their mind and asking them what they're up to and how they think and really getting into it.
04:24:49.000 So I love it.
04:24:50.000 I just had Kenny Hotz on my show this week.
04:24:53.000 Kenny Hotz from Kenny vs.
04:24:56.000 Spenny, one of the Canadian legendary...
04:25:00.000 This is all on TomGreen.com?
04:25:03.000 Yeah, it's on...
04:25:04.000 And so this is on TomGreen.com.
04:25:07.000 Is there any of the links to the videos that you do, the van life videos on TomGreen.com?
04:25:11.000 Yeah, they're just all...
04:25:12.000 If you go to my YouTube channel, just go to YouTube.com slash TomGreen.
04:25:15.000 Just go there.
04:25:16.000 That's where I'm putting all the videos.
04:25:19.000 This was a nice long one.
04:25:20.000 We did about four and a half hours, I think, right?
04:25:22.000 Yeah.
04:25:23.000 How about that?
04:25:24.000 Four and a half hours.
04:25:25.000 No peeing.
04:25:26.000 How long was it?
04:25:26.000 You know mine.
04:25:27.000 Four and a half hours, dude.
04:25:29.000 What?
04:25:29.000 What?
04:25:30.000 Yeah, you got brain damage?
04:25:31.000 He got hit.
04:25:32.000 In the middle of the podcast, one of those whiskey shots just fucking clipped and he woke up in the middle of the fight.
04:25:37.000 Like, what round is it?
04:25:38.000 Alright.
04:25:39.000 Four and a half hours, Tom Green.
04:25:41.000 Alright.
04:25:42.000 Well, listen.
04:25:45.000 I take a lot of supplements.
04:25:46.000 I can burn through alcohol pretty fucking quick, son.
04:25:49.000 Glutathione.
04:25:50.000 Liposomal glutathione.
04:25:51.000 What's that?
04:25:52.000 What is that?
04:25:53.000 It's a very powerful antioxidant that allows your body to process alcohol more quickly.
04:25:59.000 Glutathione.
04:26:01.000 Glutathione.
04:26:02.000 You want liposomal glutathione so that your liver is like...
04:26:07.000 There is actually...
04:26:08.000 No, all bullshit aside...
04:26:10.000 There's actually a doctor that I'm very good friends with, Dr. Mark Gordon, who brought it up on a podcast.
04:26:16.000 And some guy tried to dispute it.
04:26:17.000 We wound up Googling it.
04:26:18.000 It turns out liposomal glutathione, glutathione in particular, liposomal is just a different...
04:26:24.000 Liposomal is controversial in that there's some people that don't believe it's a more effective way of getting glutathione into your system.
04:26:32.000 But some people think it does.
04:26:33.000 I'm not qualified to have that argument, but I know that glutathione has been shown to help your body process alcohol more quickly.
04:26:42.000 How much more quickly?
04:26:43.000 That's up to debate, and I don't think there's ever been any real long-term peer-reviewed studies on drunks where you give them glutathione, you give their twin glutathione, and you find out who recovers quicker with the same amount of food in their body,
04:26:58.000 same amount of rest, same amount of stress in their life.
04:27:04.000 But allegedly, glutathione, all those caveats and disclaimers aside, glutathione helps your body process alcohol more quickly.
04:27:14.000 That's true, right?
04:27:15.000 Glutathione.
04:27:15.000 Yeah.
04:27:16.000 Glutathione.
04:27:17.000 Glutathione.
04:27:18.000 Glutathione.
04:27:20.000 I want to say it's an amino acid.
04:27:23.000 Glutathione?
04:27:24.000 Glutathione.
04:27:25.000 What is glutathione?
04:27:28.000 It's an antioxidant.
04:27:30.000 Okay.
04:27:30.000 That's what it is.
04:27:31.000 All right.
04:27:31.000 What is it, Jamie?
04:27:32.000 Went too far, my recording stopped.
04:27:34.000 Oh, the recording stopped.
04:27:35.000 We went too far.
04:27:37.000 We broke the show, Tom Green.
04:27:40.000 How about that?
04:27:41.000 Is anything recorded right now?
04:27:42.000 That's right.
04:27:43.000 Okay.
04:27:44.000 It's back?
04:27:45.000 It just hits a limit once we go.
04:27:47.000 We broke the show.
04:27:50.000 The show has gone so long.
04:27:52.000 Tom Green and I broke the show.
04:27:54.000 Glutathione is an antioxidant in plants, animals, fungi, and some bacteria.
04:27:59.000 I don't know what that word is.
04:28:01.000 Archaea?
04:28:02.000 Archaea?
04:28:03.000 Anyway, glutathione is capable of preventing damage to important cellular components caused by reactive oxygen species, such as free radicals, peroxides, lipid peroxides, and heavy metals.
04:28:16.000 Glutathione.
04:28:17.000 And can you Google glutathione and alcohol?
04:28:22.000 Glutathione.
04:28:23.000 And hangovers.
04:28:24.000 That's the thing.
04:28:25.000 I think glutathione is supposed to be a really good thing to take when you're in the middle of recovering from a hangover.
04:28:32.000 That is wild stuff.
04:28:34.000 Wild stuff.
04:28:36.000 Alpha lipoic acid.
04:28:37.000 Alpha lipoic acid is a potent antioxidant.
04:28:39.000 On its own, it helps your body produce glutathione.
04:28:42.000 Take about 400 milligrams before you start drinking.
04:28:45.000 N-acetylcysteine NAC is a precursor to glutathione and a great nutrient for liver support.
04:28:53.000 Take 600 milligrams of NAC before you start drinking.
04:28:57.000 Those are like dedicated drunks.
04:28:58.000 They're like, before I start drinking, I'm going to carb load.
04:29:01.000 I'm going to fill up with liquid.
04:29:05.000 A buddy of mine drank with Jean-Claude Van Damme once.
04:29:08.000 Wow.
04:29:08.000 And he said Jean-Claude Van Damme would drink, but he would bring a gallon of water.
04:29:13.000 So he had a gallon of water with him.
04:29:15.000 Like a giant jug of water.
04:29:17.000 Oh, nice.
04:29:17.000 So he would drink, and they would take a jug.
04:29:18.000 So he knew how to, like...
04:29:20.000 Yeah.
04:29:20.000 He said he was super impressed.
04:29:22.000 He was like, whoa.
04:29:23.000 Like, this guy's a professional partier.
04:29:25.000 So he would be drinking, but he would also...
04:29:29.000 Downing this gigantic bottle of water.
04:29:31.000 He kept pissing.
04:29:32.000 That's all you gotta do is hydrate.
04:29:34.000 He kept hydrated the entire time.
04:29:36.000 He said he was so blown away by it.
04:29:38.000 He's like, I can't believe this guy.
04:29:39.000 Why did nobody ever tell me that?
04:29:41.000 You didn't hang out with Jean-Claude Van Damme.
04:29:43.000 Oh my gosh.
04:29:44.000 You gotta party with JCVD. The amount of nights you could have probably survived if you just drank a little more water, huh?
04:29:51.000 Here's something embarrassing.
04:29:53.000 You know the Volvo commercial where Jean-Claude Van Damme does the splits between two trucks?
04:29:58.000 I don't know if that's real.
04:29:59.000 And I've questioned whether or not it's real, but I know it's not real.
04:30:01.000 I know they would never spend...
04:30:03.000 Do you know how much money you would have to...
04:30:05.000 But the concept is real.
04:30:07.000 I'm sure he's really capable of doing the splits.
04:30:10.000 No, but it's the idea of is probably almost better than the ability to do it.
04:30:14.000 No.
04:30:15.000 Thinking of it is cool.
04:30:16.000 No, it's crazy.
04:30:17.000 You're trusting your life to these two trucks, and then they've got to push together.
04:30:20.000 Get the fuck out of here.
04:30:21.000 You don't think that he did that?
04:30:23.000 I don't think he did that.
04:30:24.000 Oh, really?
04:30:25.000 No.
04:30:25.000 I think if he fell, he'd be a dead man.
04:30:28.000 Are we breaking news right here?
04:30:28.000 I think if he fell, he'd be a dead man, and I don't think they would ever do that without a harness.
04:30:33.000 I just don't believe it.
04:30:34.000 I think it's CGI. But he's most certainly capable of doing that if the trucks could be so specific in their movements that they never separated, and that he had time to strengthen his legs at like 50-plus years of age.
04:30:47.000 I don't have the video of it, but it says, there's a Wikipedia, three days of rehearsals, It was made in one single take.
04:30:53.000 He was protected by a hidden safety harness.
04:30:55.000 I believe it happened.
04:30:56.000 Hidden safety harness.
04:30:57.000 Okay.
04:30:58.000 I thought it happened, but...
04:30:59.000 That makes sense.
04:31:00.000 The hidden safety harness, now I believe it.
04:31:02.000 He's definitely capable of doing it.
04:31:03.000 Have you ever seen it?
04:31:04.000 Yeah, I watched it, yeah.
04:31:06.000 Let's watch one more time.
04:31:06.000 I thought it happened.
04:31:07.000 Let's end on this.
04:31:08.000 Well, now we know it did happen.
04:31:09.000 They probably CGI'd the safety harness or something.
04:31:12.000 But he's most certainly capable of doing those kind of splits.
04:31:17.000 Yeah, absolutely.
04:31:18.000 Look at it.
04:31:18.000 Going backwards.
04:31:19.000 Oh, they're going backwards.
04:31:21.000 Where's the safety harness?
04:31:22.000 I wonder.
04:31:23.000 No, you definitely can't see it.
04:31:24.000 There's also a little platform you can't see, I think, where his feet are on to help that.
04:31:27.000 Oh, okay.
04:31:29.000 That don't exist.
04:31:31.000 What's Globetrotter?
04:31:32.000 What is that?
04:31:33.000 That's the...
04:31:34.000 Oh, that's cool.
04:31:35.000 So they're very, very slowly moving backwards.
04:31:38.000 25 miles an hour.
04:31:39.000 This is a cool shot, actually.
04:31:40.000 But look at this.
04:31:41.000 Look at this.
04:31:41.000 This is very cool.
04:31:42.000 Very, very, very, very cool.
04:31:43.000 Check this out.
04:31:44.000 Look how they spread.
04:31:44.000 That's right where my balls break off and fly away.
04:31:48.000 I kept that line.
04:31:49.000 See how they're marking it?
04:31:50.000 Yeah.
04:31:51.000 Look at that.
04:31:51.000 Can you believe that?
04:31:53.000 I know, but the fact they're doing it going backwards, that's bananas.
04:31:56.000 So his weight is not being supported by his ankles there.
04:31:59.000 That's the only thing that's preposterous.
04:32:01.000 It seems he has no strain at all.
04:32:03.000 It's not preposterous that he could get into that position.
04:32:07.000 But there's a difference between getting into that position and doing it in between two chairs.
04:32:11.000 Like people do it in between two chairs.
04:32:12.000 So you don't think that's real?
04:32:13.000 No, you can do it.
04:32:14.000 You can do it in between two chairs.
04:32:16.000 People can do it.
04:32:17.000 They've definitely done it.
04:32:18.000 Do you think that's real?
04:32:21.000 I think he definitely did it.
04:32:22.000 He's definitely capable of doing that.
04:32:25.000 Is that real or is it CGI? Supported by some sort of a safety harness.
04:32:29.000 The question is whether or not this...
04:32:31.000 The image you're looking at is him supported by a safety harness.
04:32:37.000 Yes, 100%.
04:32:38.000 And then CGI'd out.
04:32:41.000 Or whatever, like chroma keyed out or whatever the hell they fucking call it.
04:32:44.000 The safety harness is just so he didn't fall, they're saying.
04:32:46.000 Jamie's saying.
04:32:47.000 I believe that too.
04:32:48.000 I would imagine it would take a little bit of the weight off.
04:32:53.000 And I think that would help his ankles.
04:32:55.000 The PR guy said the stunt is real.
04:32:58.000 The PR guy can eat a whole bag of...
04:33:02.000 He can eat a whole bag-o because, you know, PR guys are always honest.
04:33:08.000 The point is, it's way more difficult to support yourself in that position if you're being held on each ankle.
04:33:16.000 If all your weight is being pressed, he's probably 170 pounds or something like that.
04:33:20.000 All his weight is on both of those ankles, out-extended like that.
04:33:23.000 That's very difficult to do.
04:33:25.000 It's not easy.
04:33:26.000 So for him to just be sitting there all calm and stretched out like that and do it over a long...
04:33:31.000 I've seen people do it in between chairs, but they don't do it for very long.
04:33:36.000 It's not something you want to do while two trucks are driving.
04:33:39.000 This is just what they're saying and everything I can find, that his feet were not connected, so his feet were able to be moved, and that harness was only in case he fell.
04:33:49.000 And they only did it that one time.
04:33:51.000 Well, I mean, if he has enough support, again, if they only did it for a couple of seconds, he has enough support where his ankles...
04:33:58.000 I mean, he 100% can do that and has done that his whole life, where he suspends himself in a split over two chairs.
04:34:05.000 A lot of guys do it.
04:34:07.000 My only question would be, like, how long can you hold that spot?
04:34:09.000 I'm good, dude.
04:34:10.000 How long can you hold that spot?
04:34:13.000 Have you ever seen a guy do that?
04:34:14.000 A little more.
04:34:14.000 One more.
04:34:15.000 One more tap.
04:34:16.000 No, you drink a whole bottle of whiskey.
04:34:17.000 Just a little, a little sip.
04:34:19.000 No?
04:34:20.000 Okay.
04:34:21.000 Have you ever seen those videos where people do that?
04:34:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:34:24.000 I was going to say that maybe if they would have said it was a camera trick and it was just like high speed and they just slowed it down.
04:34:29.000 No, man.
04:34:30.000 Oh, you got it.
04:34:31.000 You have some more.
04:34:32.000 Let's one more tap.
04:34:33.000 One more tap.
04:34:34.000 That's all I'm saying.
04:34:35.000 Time footage.
04:34:36.000 Seems like it was real.
04:34:37.000 No, I'm sure he can do that.
04:34:39.000 If they really did do that with those two trucks, that's even more impressive.
04:34:43.000 I assume that they CGI'd it.
04:34:44.000 Still Austin.
04:34:46.000 That is so good.
04:34:46.000 But I assume that he did do the splits.
04:34:48.000 I finally found the making of them.
04:34:49.000 Let's see if I can find it.
04:34:51.000 I'm going to end with this.
04:34:52.000 Shout out to Jean-Claude Van Damme.
04:34:55.000 Oh my gosh.
04:34:57.000 Doesn't show it.
04:34:57.000 That's it!
04:34:58.000 Tom Green, it's over!
04:34:59.000 Show's 18 hours long.
04:35:02.000 People falling asleep at the wheel.
04:35:03.000 Joe, I love you, man.
04:35:04.000 I love you too.
04:35:06.000 Honestly, I really do want to say I'm so proud of you and congratulations.
04:35:16.000 It's just amazing to see how great you're doing and I love you, man.
04:35:21.000 I love you too, buddy.
04:35:22.000 I appreciate you being cool all these years.
04:35:28.000 I appreciate you being cool too.
04:35:29.000 Every time I meet you, you've always been cool.
04:35:31.000 And you have with me as well, man.
04:35:32.000 And that's why we're good friends to this day.
04:35:34.000 And again, thank you.
04:35:37.000 Because you're doing your show was one of the very first things that inspired me to do this.
04:35:42.000 100%.
04:35:42.000 Absolutely.
04:35:43.000 You're the fucking man.
04:35:44.000 Tom Green, ladies and gentlemen.
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04:35:48.000 Tom Green podcast.
04:35:49.000 Tom Green interview.
04:35:50.000 And of course, The Van Life, which is on YouTube.
04:35:53.000 TomGreen.com.
04:35:56.000 Much respect, my brother.
04:35:57.000 Love you.
04:35:58.000 Goodbye, ladies and gentlemen.
04:36:00.000 And non-gender, non-binary people.
04:36:02.000 Bye, everybody.