Comedian Al Madrigal is a good friend of mine and we talk about a lot of things, but this is probably one of my favorite stories from when I was a kid growing up in the 80s and early 90s. We talk about how he was a stand-up comic in the 60s and 70s and how he got into a fight with a guy who was trying to stab him in the head with a chair. We also talk about Oprah Winfrey and how she used to be a women's only talk show host and how it was like having a secret crush on another guy who works with another guy and the guy works with the guy that works with that guy and it's like they all have a crush on the same guy and they're all in love but they don't know it and they don t know how to tell the guy and he doesn't know they're in love so they just do it in a weird way and they do it on the job and he does it in his car and it doesn't work out and he's not even aware of what he's doing it and he just does it anyway. Joe Rogan and I talk about that and a bunch of other things and then we get into a few other things that have nothing to do with comedy and comedy and stuff and we finish up with some other stuff and that's it and we're already rolling and we do it all day long and we don't even know where we're going to end and we just keep going and we keep rolling and keep rolling. We don't have time to stop and we are already rolling so we keep going. We're already so we're not even though we are going to keep going! -Joe Rogan Thank you so much for listening and we hope you're having a great day and we will see you next week. -JOE ROGAN and we'll see you soon! -ROBERT SONGS and we love you next Monday! XOXO, JOE JORDER and JOSEPH PODCASTING AND WELL DONE AND WE'LL SEE YOU SOON AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT SOON... ENJOYING IT? JOE RODAN AND JOSIE JARRELL AND I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE SOON, BECAUSE WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT'S DIFFERENCE
00:00:32.000But I remember he was at the comic strip, and he did the late night show, and somehow somebody threw a chair at him.
00:00:38.000I remember it hit him in the head, and he got cut.
00:00:41.000And then two days later, I go to the comic strip, and somebody had taken his head shot down and put staples in his forehead where he got hit by the chair and put it back up.
00:00:50.000I guess back when you could do stuff like that, he could just tease somebody.
00:02:02.000Al was the, I think he was the MC. And after the show, he and I went over to, I think it was his brother's house, and we got super baked and watched old Oprah Winfrey episodes.
00:02:15.000It was Oprah back when it was Big Hair Oprah.
00:03:29.000And so they would tell like dirty dick sucking stories and wild shit and just do wild comedy only for women.
00:03:35.000And Jenny Jones had a super popular daytime talk show until...
00:03:40.000They had a show where they had a guy on, and he said, you have a secret crush, and they bring in the secret crush, and it's another guy that he works with.
00:03:49.000And the guy who he works with was like, you know, I've always fantasized about you, and this and that.
00:03:54.000And so he went over that guy's house after the show aired.
00:03:56.000He was embarrassed, and he shot him and killed him.
00:04:49.000I used to do a thing with him at Nerd Melt.
00:04:52.000And I swear to God, it was like every three shows, he would tell a story about something that he did during his daily dad life, something that somebody did to him, and what he did to get revenge.
00:05:04.000And, you know, as he's telling it, he's not in the mindset.
00:06:07.000The first night I went there, I bombed.
00:06:09.000It was my first five minutes because my idea...
00:06:13.000Because this stand-up thing is you don't understand how you're just listening to the crowd and you lock in where they're at and then you start taking them where they're going, where you want them to go, right?
00:06:26.000And you get on a roll and then that's when you can start killing.
00:06:32.000So it was like, it felt like I was like deaf, trying to do stand-up and trying to gauge how they were laughing.
00:06:39.000But the weirdest thing, though, is just after one night, you adjust to it.
00:06:42.000And then your whole new idea of what killing sounds like You're able to block out the traffic and the police helicopters.
00:06:50.000I'm not even joking, because it's right in downtown Hollywood.
00:06:52.000And then it just becomes this crazy fun gig, and there's comics waiting to go on behind you.
00:06:58.000It's really this amazing thing where I kind of feel like you're kind of going back to just the pure love of just going up there, trying shit out, making people laugh, supporting other comics.
00:07:34.000Where before, I had to go back to like, okay, I got to get these people.
00:07:39.000I don't have to go on stage and now I have to avoid losing them.
00:07:43.000Joey Diaz started to get some popularity.
00:07:46.000And when Joey Diaz started to get some popularity, one of the things he started doing is going to the dirtiest, dingiest open mics that he could find.
00:09:23.000And then there was a really cool one on Fairfax that I was doing in this back room of this, like, I want to say Russian bar or something like that.
00:09:33.000And I went there and I felt that thing again where it was like, you know, I feel like if I go to the comedy store, somebody knows who I am.
00:09:41.000If I go to that one, most of the people don't even know who I am.
00:09:44.000Because you start to forget, like, just how much shit there is out there to watch.
00:09:50.000And all you need is just, like, 1,200 people in each city to know who you are, and you could do, like, a theater.
00:09:56.000But, you know, you can have a very niche-level thing.
00:10:00.000Like, I try to explain that to somebody where they go, oh, you're selling this thing out so everybody knows who you are.
00:10:31.000Of like, you don't know what my style is, so it can still be like surprising as opposed to, oh, now he's going to do this, now he's going to flip out, and then I'm going to laugh and clap, and then he's going to say goodnight.
00:10:42.000You know, you can kind of break out of that, which is...
00:10:45.000The worst thing that can happen to a comic is you get real soft because everybody loves you and they go to see you and they laugh at anything you say.
00:10:51.000That's one of the reasons why Steve Martin said he stopped touring.
00:10:54.000Because Steve Martin, when I was a kid, Let's Get Small was out and he would come out with the bunny ears on and play the banjo.
00:11:59.000But, you know, it's kind of interesting, like, where he is...
00:12:03.000What he used to say about it was such a serious time that he was coming out of the previous decade, all the assassinations, the Vietnam War, the gas crisis and all that.
00:12:14.000And all these comics were talking about all this heavy shit and he was just super silly.
00:13:33.000It's really interesting too because...
00:13:35.000Like I said, I think when you talk about great comics of all these generations, for whatever reason, people just think of him as a great movie star.
00:13:44.000They think The Jerk, which is an unbelievably funny movie, and all those amazing movies that he did.
00:13:59.000And he goes into the supermarket and he gets the price gun and everything's like 99 cents and he's kind of standing there as he's scanning all this filet mignons and everything.
00:15:27.000Because he uses his fucking chord to something.
00:15:29.000But it's a popular culture moment, and it's an opportunity to do commentary to make an article that you know is going to get a lot of clicks.
00:15:41.000I don't know what it is, but it's just like, I don't mind, I like this, I don't like this, but don't fucking sit there and start, you know, I'm going to tell a mechanic why the car he just fixed is fucking working, not knowing how to fix a car.
00:15:53.000A lot of what's going on today with commentary is disingenuous in that it's not necessarily what they really think, but it's what they think will get a reaction from the people that align with their ideology.
00:17:00.000As far as bad 70s lines that an actor had to deliver, one of my favorites of all time was that movie Over the Edge with the young Matt Dillon.
00:17:30.000So the kids end up being these crazy white kids, and they take over the school.
00:17:35.000And at one point, they lock all the parents, because they had this big meeting about the kids, and the kids snuck in, and they locked them all in the little auditorium.
00:17:42.000And as they're vandalizing the school, one of the cops is trying to get out, and this chick runs by with a giant globe, and she sees the cop, and she stops, and she just goes, Eat it, you stinking pig!
00:19:03.000Yeah, he lies that he's going to try to help get the moonshiners, but he really wants to go out and get revenge on the cop that did something bad to one of his family members.
00:20:12.000It's just a classic Burt Reynolds movie, and he worked a lot with, like, Ned Beatty, who's just one of the great character actors of all time.
00:20:19.000So I've just been, like, either watching shows like that, or, like, you know, the Friends of Eddie Coyle, watching, like, really good movies from then, and then just watching, like, crazy shit.
00:20:26.000I just watch that, and I have a good time.
00:20:29.000Rather than going on, like, social media and shit like that, I've been, you know, watching all these French movies and shit, and just, like...
00:28:54.000There's a really great shot in it where a dude kills somebody Because the boss told him to, and he didn't feel good about it.
00:29:02.000And how they got his reaction, he bludges him to death with the butt of this rifle, and the shot that they used was the reflection of the guy's face in the pool of blood of the guy he killed.
00:29:14.000Yeah, I was just like, oh man, that's the fucking...
00:29:17.000That right there was worth watching this whole movie just to see that shot.
00:29:21.000Yeah, getting involved in films or anything that's outside of the shit that you're getting twisted up in your head is always good for you because it just makes you realize there's people out there doing a lot of things.
00:29:42.000Yeah, I feel like I'm in the Truman Show here.
00:29:44.000So I'm just getting the American version of movies, I'm getting the American version of news, and everybody's yelling at each other, and it's just like I'm trying to poke a hole in the tent to try to just get something else coming in, because I can't...
00:34:28.000So all the old movies are still available and they make new ones every day.
00:34:32.000They're making movies right now and they pile up.
00:34:35.000Like the amount of data that's out there in terms of like things that you could watch, just the sheer volume, terabytes of movies that are available...
00:35:09.000It was sort of like a misogynistic dude and then he was a chick but still looked like a dude and then he was hooking up with chicks and they were on top of him grabbing his throat and shit.
00:39:02.000They had just gotten through the Great Depression.
00:39:04.000I mean, that was just a couple of years before that.
00:39:06.000Yeah, I remember that Ken Burns, the war, they used to say, guys who would come home with that PTSD would come back and they would say, like, he couldn't shake off the war.
00:39:17.000That's all those kids had back then was shake it off.
00:39:30.000But you've got to think, these people get through the Great Depression, that's the beginning of the 20th century, and then they grow up, you know, so these guys that are acting in the 1950s, in those films, like during the 1920s, you know, they were kids.
00:39:44.000So this is the environment they came up in.
00:41:09.000I mean, I maybe had peripherally heard about it, but then Evan Hafer from Black Rifle Coffee was on the podcast talking about all these guys that are experiencing all these horrific problems because you've been breathing in toxic burn fumes.
00:41:26.000They throw it all into this gigantic fire pit and it burns 24-7.
00:41:30.000So these guys are constantly breathing in fumes from burning chemicals and burning waste.
00:41:37.000The fact that after all the shit that happened with Agent Orange and Vietnam, that this is still going on today?
00:41:45.000All the shit that happened in the Gulf War, the first Gulf War, with the depleted uranium where they'd come back with Gulf War sickness and nobody knew what the fuck that was and their kids would be born with all these I like all these tent cities.
00:41:58.000They sit there and they go, support the troops, support the troops.
00:42:01.000And then when they get homeless, they're like, they're taking up these people.
00:44:47.000And they're all like, they're acting like they're lazy.
00:44:53.000I mean, there's lazy people out there, but you draw the line at like, okay, if I don't do this, I gotta live outside.
00:44:58.000To look at them like they're just bums.
00:45:01.000Well, people look at people that are doing the wrong thing like you're an outcast.
00:45:06.000And I felt this when I was a kid in the smallest way, but I kind of understand in a way.
00:45:13.000When I was 18, when I graduated high school...
00:45:16.000I didn't do anything for a year because I was competing and I was like I'm just gonna dedicate myself to competing and see if I could make the Olympic team by the time I was 21 that was my goal and I also really had no idea what I wanted to study in school and the only reason why I wind up going to school at all because I didn't want people to think I was a loser so I went to college but I remember I would tell people like they're like wait where did you go to school where you going to school after I graduated college I'm like I'm taking the year off they look at you like They didn't want to hang out with me anymore.
00:45:44.000Like, literally, they wanted to not talk to me.
00:47:13.000There was that whole weird thing with Boston where it's these meathead sports fans like me, and then there's Harvard and MIT and BU. You get all these smart people coming in from other...
00:48:12.000All of a sudden this happens, and it's like you can't do stand-up for a long time, and after you're done cleaning up your house and doing shit like that, you kind of got to sit down and be like, alright, so what did I do over these last few years, and how the fuck did I end up out here in this place that's going to,
00:49:00.000It's kind of funny how people think that they're, like, because of those imaginary lines of states, that that's not, like, this disease that's going to fucking work its way across.
00:49:11.000That's why I'm watching old Burt Reynolds movies.
00:49:14.000But you're right about this giving you a chance to think about things.
00:49:18.000Because you can get caught up in the momentum of your life.
00:49:21.000A lot of people do when they get corporate jobs, too.
00:49:23.000They get these jobs, and I've talked to people, actually, that are sort of rethinking their own career, not show business people, because of this.
00:49:31.000Because they've been working from home.
00:49:34.000And then they've been thinking about what they're doing.
00:49:35.000Like, this office life is super unhealthy.
00:49:37.000And they're like, you know, I could have been working from home all along and I'm actually more productive this way.
00:49:41.000And then they start thinking about, you know, I could be working for myself.
00:49:43.000Like, why don't I start a consulting business or start this or start my own business?
00:49:58.000Okay, let me just lay here as I'm fucking breathing my last breath to sort of assess what the hell this was.
00:50:05.000Right, if you want to compete, if you want to compete in the marketplace, there's so many people out there that are just going guns blazing, pedal to the floor.
00:50:12.000There's two deathbed stories that I heard, all right?
00:50:16.000One of them was, should I tell the sad one or the cool one first?
00:50:27.000So I remember hearing Lou Reed, when Lou Reed was on his deathbed, he was just sitting there relaxed, smiling with this look of wonderment, like enjoying your last experience.
00:51:20.000You played fucking theaters for 40 years, selling out and made millions of dollars, and you came out the other side of that saying so much wasted time.
00:51:31.000So that's kind of making me look at, like, you know...
00:51:36.000There's this weird sort of thing with what we do.
00:52:03.000I remember, like, living in play, fucking New York, no air conditioners.
00:52:06.000Like, someday, I'm gonna get a fucking house, and I'm gonna have a fucking pool, and on a goddamn day like this, I'm gonna fucking jump into that thing.
00:52:13.000And, uh, yeah, and on hot days like that, I'm not.
00:52:16.000I'm fucking sitting in my office, you know, working.
00:52:19.000But there's something to be said about that, because that's what you're supposed to do as a dad and everything, but then, um...
00:52:24.000You know, there's also that other thing.
00:52:25.000It's like if you work too much, do you end up being that guy?
00:52:41.000It's very difficult when you're in a competitive business like show business to pay attention to just yourself and just enjoy your experience and be in the moment.
00:54:13.000Pop star, you know, some young, you know, guy or girl's gonna come out, prime of their life, good looking, singing some, you know, bubblegum shit, is always gonna sell more than this other thing, and you just have to, you gotta be okay with that.
00:54:26.000Because it's like, if you want to sell that, yeah, you gotta go do that bubblegum shit, and if you don't want to do that, don't fucking sit there and look at it.
00:54:44.000Show business, that's a common thing amongst comics.
00:54:47.000You would see it, this gleam of jealousy.
00:54:50.000But I think also there's good aspects of jealousy and that you can feel bad that you're not getting something that other people are getting and then it makes you work harder.
00:55:00.000But then once you've achieved like a...
00:55:03.000A level of success where it's measurable, where you're like, hey, look, you're paying your bills, you're doing shows, and people are coming to see you.
00:56:13.000I was talking to you about stand-up earlier, and over the summer I was lucky enough that Dave Chappelle invited me to come out and do a couple shows out in his place out there in Ohio, and going out there and getting in front of a crowd where there was no cell phones,
00:56:31.000and I knew that this was just going to be for them, and I didn't have to worry about all this shit.
00:56:37.000It suddenly reminded me of how fun stand-up used to be.
00:56:41.000Before all the joke police came out to complain about shit that happened at a show that they weren't at.
00:56:48.000And it was sort of this thunderclap moment.
00:56:51.000It was just like, I've been doing stand-up wrong for like five years.
00:56:55.000It's not that I didn't say what I wanted to say.
00:56:58.000I was looking over my shoulder as I was doing it.
00:57:01.000Literally telling jokes going like, is this going to be the one?
00:57:29.000And theirs meaning these fucking assholes who are sitting there like I'm on Shark Tank, and I'm trying to sell them something or whatever, and it's just like, no, this is just, I'm just up here.
00:57:52.000If you don't, there's a hundred thousand comedians.
00:57:55.000Go find the fucking one that you like.
00:57:56.000But you also have to accept the fact that if you're going to do something that people don't like, there's going to be a certain amount of people that because of social media, first of all, people are addicted to posting.
00:58:36.000I'm going on to my next show, and I'm going to continue doing that bit, and I'm going to expand on it, because that's what I want to do, because it makes me happy, and this is what I think is funny.
00:58:46.000And if you don't think it's funny, I respect it.
00:58:48.000But ever since that Chappelle Show gig, I've just been like, oh yeah, this used to be fucking like...
00:59:24.000He doesn't get enough credit for that.
00:59:25.000Bert Kreischer, he invented these fucking drive-in shows.
00:59:29.000He loves doing stand-up and he was trying to figure out a way to keep doing stand-up during the pandemic and he came up with the idea of drive-in shows.
01:00:13.000But those shows, as much as they look like hell gigs, they're like the greatest crowd ever because they're so into comedy that they're willing to sit in their car and listen to it.
01:03:13.000And of course, back then, you know, all my comic friends, we were all like, you know, in our 20s, you know, broken toys at that point, crawling out of whatever the fuck happened that made you a comedian.
01:03:23.000So asking them for advice was not the right thing to do.
01:03:27.000I would have been like, fuck you, bitch.
01:03:29.000And even then, I was just like, really?
01:06:08.000But open mics, like, the worst was when I would go on the road and say I'd do a gig in Florida and they'd have a local opener and I'd watch like two minutes of the guys set up like, oh my god, this is impossible.
01:06:36.000I had to shut the door, the green room, and hope I didn't miss my intro because it was so bad.
01:06:41.000And then you would go on stage and you'd have this look in the people's eyes just beaten down by life because they listened to 20 minutes of utter horseshit.
01:08:47.000And never adjusted his material to the crowd.
01:08:51.000Like, his material was that what we're doing with our culture, with our lives, is empty and vapid and meaningless, and that we're ruining God's creation.
01:15:17.000What's funny about that is I understand getting mad at the government, but you also have to get mad at all these fucking assholes who are just doing whatever the fuck they want to do.
01:16:00.000He's the guy who did all our COVID tests in LA and he arranges them all out here in Texas as well.
01:16:04.000He was doing COVID tests for all these people that went to one of those influencer parties in Hollywood.
01:16:10.000He said there was like a hundred people that tested positive.
01:16:13.000They went to some party, fucking pack party, thousands of people all mulling around and then all of a sudden they just started falling into his office a few days later.
01:16:46.000Well, there was no coordination beforehand.
01:16:48.000Nobody knew what the fuck was going on before this happened.
01:16:51.000Before January, no one had any idea that we would be dealing with something like this.
01:16:56.000So they have to sort of make it up as they go along.
01:16:58.000And then in the future, I think if another pandemic comes around, we're going to be much better prepared for it.
01:17:04.000We'll be able to lock down quicker and...
01:17:06.000The thing about the virus and the vaccine is that if this vaccine is effective and if you really can get it to people and give their immune system, we should be able to ramp things back up to fairly normal levels fairly quickly.
01:17:22.000Yeah, I feel good about it, but I've given up on the whole that people are going to come together during this.
01:17:31.000It's just like, if you talk to 20 people, 20 people have 20 different opinions and 20 different game plans.
01:17:39.000It's like the fucking, it's the Wild West.
01:17:42.000But I have to say, for our first pandemic in a long time, I think we did pretty good.
01:19:49.000Well, you weren't a sports guy, but they used to show those guys that would go to Chicago Bears games and not have four guys or five guys spell out bears, right?
01:21:19.000So now, so with this weed shit going, becoming legal, and I'm just hearing people talking about it, being like, well, this is the shit, man.
01:21:29.000If you want to, like, clean your house, be high, but you still want to clean your house, or this shit here, if you just want to get fucked up, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and all this stuff.
01:21:36.000Like, my question is, what are they putting in weed?
01:21:39.000Because weed, you should just be weed.
01:21:41.000I wasn't a marijuana guy, but weed was kind of weed.
01:22:40.000Like I had a buddy of mine that kind of got out of this business, got into that.
01:22:44.000And like, he was sort of living like this murder mountain fucking existence where there was local gangs, hostile about what, and they were like, They were kind of like, hey man, we're just like making CBD oil for like your fucking joints or whatever.
01:22:56.000We're not selling what you're selling.
01:22:58.000And they were driving by, you know, taking shots at people.
01:23:02.000I have friends that protect those guys.
01:23:36.000Millions of dollars in cash, in bags, and these guys would transport it, and they would hire these special forces guys.
01:23:44.000So they would hire SEALs and Rangers, and these guys would literally be fucking strapped and loaded to the teeth and rolling around with millions of dollars of cash.
01:24:21.000So you get into special forces and the shit that you had to survive, right?
01:24:25.000And then you get out of the army and you're like, alright, I got a civilian life and now this is going to be like, now you're bringing like bags of cash like you're in Scarface.
01:24:33.000You're like, can I get a fucking break here?
01:24:35.000Can I just get like a fucking sit in a booth?
01:26:56.000I think with that thing, you're starting to, you know, pull back that warehouse door into the other part of your brain.
01:27:02.000Yeah, that thing of only using a certain part of your brain is not totally accurate.
01:27:07.000What they used to think that you only used, like, 10% of your brain, like, that's actually, like, one of the premises, a false premise in the movie Lucy.
01:27:18.000Lucy's a movie where they give this lady, Scarlett Johansson.
01:28:06.000Anyway, the premise was that you only use 10% of your brain.
01:28:09.000From what I understand, they used to think that, but now they have a better understanding of the different parts of your brain and what they're being used for.
01:28:17.000And there's different parts of your brain that are being used for motor skills, different parts of your brain for emotions, different parts of your brain for memory.
01:29:26.000On the last show, the show you went to, I was being so silly.
01:29:29.000It was because that overly acting shit out and jumping up and down, squatting down, acting like an idiot, that is the frustration of, I'm getting sick of these jokes, so I need something new in this.
01:29:43.000But don't you think that that's what makes them hit some new play sometimes?
01:29:47.000It's like, you know, I love, back in the day when I was drinking, I loved to have, who doesn't like to have four drinks, all right?
01:29:54.000But doing stand-up like that, this is like I'm on drinks nine and ten.
01:30:29.000You know, you'd come in Tuesday through Sunday, two Friday, three Saturdays.
01:30:34.000And just going up and like when we were coming up because when I was coming up anyways, you know, the dip had happened so they would just paper these fucking rooms and it was just 300 fucking people and large clumps of 20 that all knew each other hammered and could give a fuck because they were looking at it like it was a free show.
01:30:51.000And you just went up there with like a whip and a chair trying to get these fucking people.
01:33:22.000It was one of those noise barrier walls, and then there was a street.
01:33:26.000But the funny thing was, was the stage was up high, so the crowd, I ended up figuring out, the crowd was down low and couldn't hear it the way I heard it, unless it was super loud.
01:33:35.000And then I couldn't really hear myself, so then I started yelling, and then the third show, I felt a little twinge.
01:33:39.000I got, like, you know, about a dozen shows left, and I'm already doing this.
01:33:43.000So then I actually sort of adjusted how I was talking, and then it kind of went away, which I can't believe.
01:33:50.000I did one weekend in Houston in July, and one of the things that I noticed at the end of the weekend by Saturday night, late show, I was like, ooh, my voice is not in shape.
01:34:55.000So much fun and just seeing the fact that someone would come out to see stand-up in that environment under a fucking blanket is really like, man, people really love this shit.
01:35:10.000So it's been like, it's kind of been giving me like a jolt for every show to like, all right, these fucking guys, people are going to sit out here on the grass under blankets.
01:35:19.000You know, I'm, you know, It's not easy right now.
01:35:22.000So the people that are going to see it and the people that are doing it, they're the people that are really enthusiastic.
01:35:28.000What I noticed when I did shows here, I did one with Chappelle and one with Hinchcliffe and Ron White.
01:35:35.000So I did two weekends in a row, two weeks in a row.
01:35:38.000And it's like the people are very happy to be there.
01:36:00.000There was like so many like just brilliant lines in that and I was just reading the comments because I knew everybody like he's just one of those guys just everybody loves him and it was just like every real estate video should be like this.
01:36:13.000It should be the person that owns the house.
01:39:16.000And when they went nuts when he went on stage, and they went nuts when he went off stage, and you could tell it's like he had a glow about him when he walked into the green room.
01:40:42.000But to see other comics piling on, trashing other comics, I equate that back to like...
01:40:49.000Back when they had the big, the red scare, and directors would turn in other directors and actors would go after other actors and shit.
01:40:56.000It's just like, you are a fucking cowardly piece of shit to do that to another fucking, especially if you weren't there and you don't know what the fuck happened and you're attacked, you know, or you wait till something happens to them and it's your excuse to get your little bitter comment in about their fucking act.