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00:00:31.000Every time you go to a new city, you're like, ah, this is like the Brooklyn of, this is like the Queens of, this is like the Brooklyn Bridge of.
00:00:38.000Yeah, this is a different animal down here.
00:03:12.000There's all kinds of different restaurants and neighborhoods, and it's a legitimate melting pot where you get on the subway, there's millionaires next to homeless people, and everybody's together, and everybody walks down the street together.
00:03:27.000And that is one thing that separates it and makes it superior to Los Angeles.
00:03:33.000Everyone's isolated in their little community, isolated in their car, they drive to a place, they give their key to a valet, they don't mingle as much.
00:03:40.000In New York, people are out there, they're mingling.
00:05:05.000I was in Harlem because a friend of mine who was a professional pool player was going there to meet this guy who was a pimp, who was also a pool hustler, and he would bet high.
00:05:16.000And so we went to this pool hall in Harlem.
00:05:19.000And dude, I'm not exaggerating by saying the garbage was stacked seven feet high, and there was rats running all over the place, because no one had picked up the garbage.
00:05:27.000So people would go outside, put a bag of garbage, go back inside, and the garbage would just keep stacking.
00:05:32.000And for, I don't know how long the strike lasted, but for as long as it lasted, it was bizarre.
00:05:38.000Like, you'd be like, Jesus, that's a rat.
00:06:36.000Because you tweet so much, I'm like, Sean, this is really funny, and I don't want to tell him to stop doing this, but goddamn, this is not good, because I know he's probably reading replies and...
00:06:46.000Yeah, I got that thing where I don't, it doesn't seem like I'm, it seems like a lot of us get infected by that, where we just, we start, we see the reply and we're like, motherfucker!
00:07:01.000And then you're going, what am I doing?
00:07:02.000And, you know, in the beginning of a comic's career, in particular, it's a crucial tool because people can see your funny writing, they can see your perspectives, but there's a lot of people that I follow, especially during COVID, I can watch their descent into madness.
00:07:16.000And I watched him arguing with people about shit and yelling and being really uncivil.
00:07:29.000And actually, I think the first time we communicated, I jumped in when you were arguing with some woke chick who was just trying to get you.
00:07:38.000Asking her questions and then you'd like personally message and you're like, hey, man, thanks for having my back.
00:07:42.000So you see you it was that was positive reinforcement You should have told me you should be like, hey, man, you shouldn't you shouldn't have done that.
00:08:20.000I don't even want to trample somebody.
00:08:22.000I want to find them and talk to them one-on-one, and I guarantee we would have a reasonable discussion.
00:08:29.000It's just the worst way to communicate with people.
00:08:32.000I remember once I was like doing some one-nighter and I was pulling over on the side of the road to finish an argument and I was like this.
00:08:40.000I was just actually pulling over on a highway to be like, wait a second.
00:08:45.000Let me get this guy I don't know about who's probably like gonna not get it.
00:08:49.000And yeah, that's when I knew I had a problem.
00:08:51.000That's why I love your show because it's like It's the opposite of Twitter.
00:08:56.000It's like the total opposite of these pithy little, wait, fuck, ad tweet, ad tweet, fuck, I gotta take the the out to make my point.
00:09:04.000This is like, you get to really express yourself, get to know somebody, that's what's great about it.
00:09:08.000Yeah, that's what's great about podcasts.
00:09:12.000And ironically enough, podcasts probably inspire the most hate tweets ever.
00:09:18.000Because people aren't in this room, and then they're hearing some of the things you say, or I say, or one of the guests says, and they're like, no, fuck you!
00:09:31.000But also, another reason I love this show is I always just, I always wondered, like, when I would watch a late night show, I'd be like, why the fuck do I care about what Gail Gadot has to say about anything?
00:09:49.000What interesting thing could she say besides me looking at her...
00:09:53.000Wanting her, the same reason why she's famous, you know, like I'd rather hear from an astrophysicist or a fucking astronaut or, you know, Elon Musk.
00:10:01.000I mean, it's the only show that has me on and Elon Musk.
00:10:05.000I was talking to Jamie, I was like, you're probably getting like calls from big publicists like, hey, we want to have Matt Damon on.
00:10:09.000You're like, no, we got to have this small, crazy comedian from New York.
00:11:26.000The problem is when a really good actor that you really respect and enjoy does that, anytime you see them in the future, you're going to think about that video and you're going to go like, you silly person.
00:12:08.000But then afterwards, he did a long podcast where I believe he said their names and made reference to their sexual orientation, which he's allowed to do being a gay man.
00:12:39.000He just is this true comedian and he goes after everybody.
00:12:41.000But he'll tell you when he was younger, he would be sitting in his car listening to Rush Lomba like, fucking, yeah, we got to honor our contract with the people of Iraq.
00:13:38.000Yeah, I always enjoyed working on Long Island and then in the 80s, or I guess it was the 90s actually when I came to New York, there was this weird sort of superiority complex that people had about New York City.
00:13:50.000Like you either worked the city or you were a hack.
00:13:53.000And I was always like, God damn, I guess I'm a hack, because I need to do the road.
00:14:37.000You know, it was a great place, but, you know, yeah, when you go to work, Dangerfields, they would, like, you'd have to...
00:14:41.000You know, because, yeah, like you said, in New York, you're running around doing sets.
00:14:44.000And, like, lately, when I would go there, like, once in the blue moon, or you're like, let me just fill this spot, they would pay you in check.
00:14:50.000So you'd have to wait, but they would write it.
00:14:54.000So you do your set, and then you're just waiting for your check by the bar, and you've got to run to another set, and you're just waiting for the check-in.
00:15:01.000There's a few times I was just like, you know what?
00:16:21.000I remember one time during like some extra rowdy show, might have been one of those prom shows, I'm not really sure, but I remember he picked a guy up by his neck.
00:16:30.000He grabbed the guy, grabbed him by the back of the neck, and put a hand on his belt buckle, or on his belt, rather, and hoisted him in the air, and was carrying the guy out, and the guy was like, Jesus!
00:16:42.000Yeah, I mean, he had, like, real work strength.
00:19:13.000You look at their history, they have a deeper appreciation for live performance than we do because they go back to the land of Shakespeare, Chaucer.
00:19:23.000And that's why actors, when they make those videos, I yearn for the days where you just We worship the writer.
00:21:25.000And if anyone's going to set him off where he's going to have a moment that's not, you know, it's not kind of controlled by PR, it's like your wife, you know?
00:22:21.000If you start arguing and getting mean with each other, the problem is they're going to get mean with you, and then it's going to escalate, and where's it going to go?
00:22:28.000Well, I'm a burn-it-all-to-the-ground guy.
00:24:00.000He slammed into her vagina so hard it broke something, and she's no longer capable of supporting herself.
00:24:07.000He pays her hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and she does nothing.
00:24:10.000So I've seen all the madness and the nonsense, but all that, for me, went out the window with the idea of children, because I'm like, okay, look.
00:24:19.000The commitment of money is a lot, but the commitment of life is far greater.
00:26:17.000And it was the first time I'd like sat down with like You know, guys who are trained fighters.
00:26:23.000And the calm, it's just like a calm and a peace that, like, I was trying to put my finger on, like, what is that calm?
00:26:30.000And then I realized, like, if, like, I'm in, I get insecure, you know, but, you know, I'm, like, got nervousness.
00:26:35.000And a lot of that is because I, always in a situation, know there's a probability that I could get fucked up.
00:26:42.000Or if I walked around and I knew that 99.7% of the people I could fuck up, I'd be calm.
00:26:48.000Well, Chris Weidman is calm like I would be calm if I was hanging out with 10-year-old girls and they were trying to tell me how the world works.
00:27:03.000I mean, when he was the champ, first of all, when Chris Weidman was coming up...
00:27:07.000The limitations of Chris Weidman legitimately are the limitations of the human body because his body started to break.
00:27:15.000He had knee problems and neck problems and back problems, but the limitations of his mind were limitless.
00:27:21.000There's a lot of these guys, and a lot of them are wrestlers.
00:27:24.000Because I think wrestlers have the strongest brains, the strongest minds, the strongest determination, because that sport is so fucking brutal.
00:27:31.000But these great wrestlers who get into fighting, like Chris Weidman, and Cain Velasquez was another one.
00:27:37.000The limitations of Cain Velasquez were the limitations of his body.
00:27:40.000Because he started getting shoulder surgery, and back surgery, and knee surgery, and then it all started falling apart.
00:27:46.000But when he was at his peak, Chris Weidman was a motherfucker, man.
00:28:52.000So the guys like Chris Weidman, the guys like Jordan Burroughs, the guys like King Velasquez, guys who excel in wrestling, there's a mindset that they have that's so interesting to be around them because they are that calm.
00:29:14.000Do you think that's changing now because they do have an outlet with MMA, which is great, like they can go pro and become Some of them, but Jordan Burroughs doesn't have any interest in fighting.
00:29:26.000Especially his wife doesn't want him to fight.
00:29:28.000He does make good money wrestling, just as an ambassador to wrestling.
00:29:32.000I don't think they fall into the same pitfalls that a lot of the other fighters fall into.
00:29:40.000A lot of them, they get into fame and glory and all that shit.
00:29:58.000He's worth fucking millions of dollars.
00:30:00.000He's the most dominant fighter in any weight class in the history of the sport, and he is as calm and as humble as can be while also being incredibly confident.
00:32:06.000But when Khabib got a hold of him, every time just drags him to the ground and almost submitted him at the end of the first round and then submitted him in the second round.
00:32:13.000Well, he said he didn't want to hurt him.
00:35:12.000Like, we get these new guys all the time where I'm doing commentary and I look at this guy and his name and I'm like, where's, oh, Dagestan, there you go.
00:36:21.000No, you know, you're going up against Luke Rockhall, he's like, yeah, you know, he's cocky, he's got a good kick, but then he's like, I gotta go model for...
00:36:28.000Ralph Lauren after this, and Khabib's like, yeah, man, I gotta go wrestle a bear and climb a cliff.
00:36:34.000Well, Luke is a rare guy that, even though he is beautiful, was a handsome guy.
00:38:25.000Yeah, and those crazies, you just take it and just patiently, their face would turn into a pizza until they got like an ankle.
00:38:33.000I mean, I remember watching one of those fights where they didn't finally, he got like an ankle or an arm and it just ended it, but he got up and his face was just different.
00:38:58.000But when they saw what a fight really is, it's like a lot of it is like grappling on the ground and that this smaller, relatively small, he was like 175 pounds, Hoist Gracie beat all these gigantic guys like Kemos, like 265. The guy was like 90 pounds bigger than him,
00:39:56.000It's hard to think of how much impact that guy had because you kind of have to put yourself back in 1970. You got to put yourself back in the days when he was becoming popular because there was no one like him.
00:40:10.000Everyone who did a style back then, whether it was judo or karate, you were taught that your style was the only style.
00:40:17.000Like even when I was coming up and I was doing Taekwondo, I started working out with boxers and my instructor was discouraging it.
00:40:23.000He was saying, you don't need to do that.
00:41:08.000They just look for a weakness, an opening, and then things you would never think of, like a hand, an arm, an ankle.
00:41:14.000Well, it's just they do that all the time.
00:41:17.000It's just like when a heckler tries to challenge you, and it's like they think they're funny around the gas station or whatever, like, listen, I do this every night.
00:42:39.000That was like when that Gaethje Khabib fight, you could tell his strategy was like, I'm gonna try to get his legs and Khabib's just like, Yeah.
00:43:32.000Dude, I used to be a fitness trainer at the Boston Athletic Club, and Jose Canseco came in once when he was in the prime of his career, and he was a giant human being.
00:45:51.000Yeah, I think it was MMA. He fought Hongman Choi in Japan.
00:45:56.000Because Jose Canseco had an actual background in karate.
00:45:59.000He was a martial artist and he tried throwing some kicks and I think he popped his knee and fell down and then Hong Man Choy beat the shit out of him.
00:46:06.000But it was one of those deals where he needed money and they offered him a fight literally against a seven-foot man.
00:48:02.000See, Tiger Shulman's is a weird one because you would think, because it was a chain of karate schools, that, oh, it's, you know, it's kind of like McDojo-ish, but it's not.
00:48:12.000Like, Tiger Shulman has raised some legit MMA fighters.
00:54:35.000Whether you're sitting in front of a laptop, whatever the fuck you're doing, like whatever you're doing to kind of create, some guys don't do that.
00:54:45.000And so they go on stage and then they just sort of spout out what they've already done and maybe they add a tag here, a little bit there, but they don't develop the way a guy like Bill turns over material.
01:04:34.000I mean, it's just like, even when you're performing, and I remember when I would, like, I had this, I had a show on Fusion, which was this network that failed, and I was with two journalists.
01:04:43.000And, like, you just, even your whole body posture is fake, and everything, you don't touch your face, even if it itches, because you look like a crackhead on TV if you even touch your nose, and, like, you know, I remember I would have full panic attacks, and I would just stand there and just be dealing with it, you know?
01:04:58.000How about in between breaks, they'd powder your forehead?
01:07:36.000You know where that really shined through?
01:07:42.000What we're talking about, kind of like that people just act that way until they realize this is stupid, was like your incident with Stephen A. Smith.
01:09:53.000But my perspective was not the same because my perspective is that it's really what Conor McGregor did To Donald Cerrone that led to the outcome.
01:11:41.000You have to be because it's almost like, if I was going to use an analogy with another sport, it was almost like, because you get hurt in MMA. Like, Donald Cerrone was hurt.
01:11:50.000So, like, it's fine when you're watching basketball to be like, this team didn't show up when all the guys go back to the locker room and they're just, like, emotionally dejected.
01:11:58.000But, like, it would be like if you watch a guy break his leg in basketball or, like, really gets hurt and then you go, he didn't show up!
01:12:05.000You know, and so you're going, like, that's not the right tone to have when someone's actually...
01:12:30.000And what was interesting about that moment is I think we all learned as a fan, from a fan's perspective, we're like, oh, that's the tone of MMA for that reason.
01:12:38.000At the end, there's a reason why guys go bad to each other, because that guy must have so much respect for that guy, because he knows what that guy put on the line, and he knows how that guy's feeling.
01:12:46.000He knows how that guy's physically hurt, and the courage that it takes.
01:12:49.000Like you said, it's a difference between putting a ball in a hoop.
01:12:52.000Those things are great, but you're not sacrificing...
01:13:30.000He talks shit, and that's why he's so huge.
01:13:34.000He's so huge because he does that thing, and it's applicable for sports.
01:13:38.000It's applicable for football, but it's...
01:13:40.000I don't think you should have the same approach for MMA. The same way...
01:13:47.000Look, people can criticize human beings for all sorts of different things, but when you talk about soldiers and veterans, you're talking about a completely different type of consequences for their actions.
01:14:00.000Completely different levels of stress for what they have to go through, right?
01:14:05.000So if you discuss politicians, you can discuss politicians in one way, but when you discuss veterans, I think you have to have a level of respect.
01:14:13.000They deserve a level of respect because they're existing in a realm where the consequences are as grave as is humanly possible.
01:14:23.000There's no more grave consequences than war.
01:14:26.000It's like when you talk, and like my dad fought in Korea, and you can...
01:14:31.000That's exemplified by when you talk to a veteran, they don't talk.
01:14:34.000They don't go like, hey man, we mowed down.
01:16:11.000Someone said something to me once, and it's a great thing, and I wish I could remember who said it, but I repeat it all the time, is that the worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst thing that's ever happened to you.
01:16:21.000So if the worst thing that's ever happened to you is someone popped your basketball, you're going to cry like a bitch.
01:16:28.000You're like, I can't believe you broke my basketball!
01:16:32.000You break Mike Tyson's basketball, he's going to be like, well, I guess I need a new basketball.
01:16:54.000It's an old expression, and it's very, very appropriate for today.
01:16:59.000Because when people talk about the problems of today, and there are problems, but our problems are relatively insignificant in comparison to the problems of history.
01:17:10.000But they're the only problems that we know.
01:17:12.000The problems that we experience today are the most extreme problems that we've experienced.
01:17:17.000But in comparison to the fucking barbarians storming Rome, or the fucking Aztecs slaughtering 80,000 people after the completion of temples, the fucking Mayans dying because of probably disease.
01:17:34.000Native Americans experiencing the Europeans moving across the continent, destroying their way of life.
01:17:40.000These fucking problems are the greatest problems we've ever known, but they're only great in comparison to the life that we've lived, and the life that we've lived is fairly soft.
01:17:50.000Yeah, even just when you look at plagues, like the Spanish flu wiped out like 40, 50 million people, which is equivalent to like 400 million people now.
01:17:58.000You got through COVID? How hard was it?
01:17:59.000I got through COVID. What was the toughest part?
01:18:08.000Most of it was like the mental part was like, I was scared just because like, how the, you know, you turn on the media and everything's always like, they report on everything.
01:18:17.000They're like, one person is paralyzed.
01:18:19.000You're like, alright dude, that's one person.
01:18:21.000Did you really have to, the media's gotta report everything because it's like, we're living through a media boom.
01:18:56.000But if you look at the world, now you're talking about 7 point whatever billion fucking people.
01:19:03.000If you have the bad news app on your phone and it's just only giving you bad news and it's just fucking coming at you and waves like a Twitter feed.
01:20:05.000But because I had it, I was checking it more.
01:20:07.000It's like the same thing with your phone and news.
01:20:09.000It's like because we can, we just end up just checking it and worrying more and worrying more.
01:20:13.000The amount that people bitch, the irony of it, the amount that people complain and think things are bad is actually an indication of how great things are.
01:20:22.000It's like the point that people can disagree is actually a great sign.
01:20:28.000Because you go to China, you can't disagree there.
01:20:31.000If you're in a country where you can't have a civil disagreement, you're in a country that is not great.
01:20:36.000Do you know what's going on with this guy Jack Ma?
01:23:40.000We're gonna take it back and now it's like they're taking it back and they're doing it in a very Smart like with the way a smart woman would do it like I don't see a way out of it for them either for China It's like for the Chinese people like I don't they're too powerful.
01:23:56.000It makes a good argument for how that system has can be advantageous You know like it people who are from there who come to America who understand the dangers of it?
01:24:20.000She really actually understands what the dangers are.
01:24:23.000And that's the dangers of accepting authoritarianism.
01:24:28.000Authoritarianism in this country is like, there's a lot of people that like it because it silences their opponents.
01:24:35.000What's going on right now with Parler's getting shut down, and Amazon pulls it from their servers, and then Apple pulls it off of their App Store, and then Google pulls it off the Google Play Store, and everybody's like, yeah, good, they're spreading hate.
01:24:55.000Is this wise that we shut down all discourse that you agree with?
01:25:01.000Yeah, it's not good if someone gets on there and they're talking about violence against the government or violence against individuals or they're spreading racist ideas or whatever the fuck they're doing that's...
01:26:20.000But I think what you're saying already happened because with this incident, you're going like, okay, we blame – Donald Trump's the president.
01:26:27.000His rhetoric was kind of – you can interpret it as like he kind of gave them license to go do that.
01:26:34.000So shouldn't the buck stop with Donald Trump?
01:26:37.000Like Donald Trump – that's even a little bit of a debatable thing.
01:27:47.000That was a coup attempt by guys who believe...
01:27:49.000That's what you'd expect a coup attempt would look like by guys who believe that Hillary Clinton's a shapeshifter and she turns into a reptile.
01:27:56.000That's what you'd imagine it would look like.
01:29:43.000Yeah, I think there's like four levels of humans.
01:29:46.000There's like, you got your really dumb, you got your brilliant, you got guys who can kind of look at the brilliant and say he's brilliant, and then you got guys a little below who can look at the guys who know that the guys are brilliant and go like, that guy's smart.
01:30:30.000How do you govern that shit without being a dictatorship?
01:30:33.000Because I look at Rome and like they had the kings, then they had democracy for a little bit.
01:30:38.000They tried to do the Greek thing, but then it was just a succession of Caesars, which are essentially dictators that kind of had the longest success.
01:30:45.000Queen Elizabeth, the same thing, you know, just a great era.
01:30:54.000Well, it really is interesting because it seems like our founding fathers kind of knew what the pitfalls were.
01:30:59.000So they tried to put a bunch of checks and balances in place so no one could ever be a real dictator.
01:31:05.000That's why they figured out the hassle.
01:31:07.000Representatives, that's why they figured out.
01:31:09.000The whole system, Congress, the Senate, all these different things, like the Electoral College, they tried to map it out so no one could ever completely dominate the populace.
01:31:20.000But one of the things they fucked up is this idea of...
01:34:13.000But then like, you know, without it, there's no yang without a yang.
01:34:15.000And then also we got, you know, guys who believe that reptiles are, you know, turning into Democrats and Democrats are drinking children's blood under pizza restaurants and shit like that.
01:35:42.000They're better off with the regulations of the Republicans where they allow the restaurants to stay open and they allow business and they allow even art, like stand-up comedy.
01:35:51.000You know, I got a show tonight with Chappelle at Stubbs.
01:41:32.000Real thugs went there, and my friend was a promoter, and he would carry thousands of dollars of cash with him, and so it was like an attempted robbery, and yeah, I got shot point-blank range, 38, right here in the leg.
01:41:52.000Right there, and it lodged itself in my butt cheek.
01:41:55.000And then a couple years later, the bullet came out.
01:41:58.000Funny story, when the surgeon, they took it out, because a foreign object will slowly work its way to the surface, like your body will reject it.
01:42:06.000So it got to the point where I could feel it, and then I had surgery, they put me under, took it out, and I remember they were taking it out, and I was coming to, and the surgeon was down there with the nurse, and I just farted right in their face, because I was up in stirrups.
01:42:18.000So when I came to, it was like a huge fart.
01:42:35.000And they all gathered around all these older Christian women and I took the x-ray out and put it against the window and it was like you could just see my penis like it was like my limp penis because it was an x-ray of my pelvis so it shows up on the x-ray you saw the bullet it was like a and then like my penis just like a ghost penis yeah it's like a police sketch of my penis like the outline of it and they were like oh and they all kind of like turned away it was hilarious yeah it's hilarious yeah Did the guy shoot you because he wanted to make a point?
01:43:23.000They should be equally represented in prison as well.
01:43:25.000Occasionally they are when they're on coke.
01:43:27.000Yeah, we need to put more women in prison for equal representation in prison.
01:43:30.000So I look back and I saw him, he had a mask on, gloves, he was coming, like as we were getting in the car, And I just made a decision to try to get in the car and tell my friend to drive, which was stupid.
01:43:40.000He kind of sped up and then kind of fell into the car.
01:43:43.000It was a Jeep, thank God, because I was higher up.
01:43:45.000Because if it was lower, it might have been, you know, somewhere here.
01:43:48.000And then the gun was kind of like in the car.
01:44:05.000Like I just like really hurt even though I didn't know if I was or wasn't.
01:44:08.000So I kind of just like slithered down on him and he kicked me a few times I remember and then he ran and the cops they caught him because that club was always a problem so cops were always close by.
01:45:11.000And then I kind of quit comedy for a couple years and Donnell...
01:45:14.000Donnell's the guy that kind of like I would do...
01:45:16.000I became friends with him through this guy, Adam.
01:45:20.000And then he would have me on his show once a week at this place, Miriam Square on Upper East Side.
01:45:27.000And then he took me on the road and that's how I really started again in like 2005, 2006 when Chappelle's show was hit and I became friends with Donnell and...
01:47:46.000There was a time where Opie and Anthony got in trouble for something, and Patrice was on this talk show and he was talking to her about it.
01:47:52.000There was this woman on the show who was saying, like, this is inappropriate.
01:50:05.000So when you go to a Quaker school, every day you start the day with a moment of silence, the whole school is quiet, and then once a week the whole school gathers for 45 minutes and everyone sits in silence unless God moves you to speak.
01:50:19.000It was my friend who farted and it was the funniest fucking thing that's ever happened because the headmaster was sitting right in front of us and he turned around and he still had that pre-coffee morning face anger and the fart and the sound of the fart in that context and his turnaround and it was,
01:50:36.000you know when you're a kid you can't stop laughing?
01:50:40.000And the memory, I just heard the fart in my head for 45 minutes, and I kept laughing.
01:52:17.000I've thought about it in a bunch of different ways, and I put myself in their position.
01:52:21.000If I wasn't a funny person or a person who...
01:52:24.000Desired to be funny, and I looked at it a certain way.
01:52:27.000I think ultimately all of this battle, the pros and cons, all of this chaos that's going on, if we play our cards right, it's going to lead to a better world.
01:53:19.000Those people have their own internal problems to deal with, and they're imposing those problems on people and hoping they get support from others.
01:53:28.000The most hilarious thing is when someone chimes in and they think they're going to stop comedy, and they're in a room where everybody supports comedy, and the comic's like, oh, really?
01:53:37.000And then they get crushed, and then they storm out of there and think, what happened?
01:56:45.000You need something extra to get off of when you get a little older.
01:56:48.000First hand job I get, this girl from St. Saviour's in Brooklyn, she jerked me off on a rock in the park, and I think she jerked me off for two and a half hours, because it was just like, not my hand.
01:56:58.000So she was going like, ah, she was pulling one of those, like, ah, you know?
01:57:28.000The only version of it out there sucks, but the version, the idea was that he had said once, someone interviewed him and they said, how do these girls feel?
01:57:38.000Like, you know, these 20-year-old girls dating you.
01:57:40.000And he goes, well, they feel very lucky.
01:57:42.000This has always been a dream for them.
01:57:44.000And I was like, lucky, lucky, living the dream!
01:57:48.000And I can tell a bit about these poor girls.
01:59:04.000When I was doing that show at Marion Square...
01:59:08.000There was four girls I invited to the show, and I had slept with all four girls.
01:59:12.000And I said to Donnell before, because I didn't really have any material, I was a horrible comic, and I was like, you know, I fucked all those girls, I'm gonna make a joke about it.
01:59:21.000And he's like, son, I wouldn't do that.
01:59:25.000And I said, no, I think it'll be real funny.
01:59:27.000And he, you know, Dono, just like, older comic, was like, all right, son, do you, son?
01:59:31.000You know, like, and he kind of like, and then I did it, and it went horrible.
01:59:35.000Like, the girls were like fucking stormed out.
02:00:35.000So white people just have to skip half of the song, and then if they slip up and say one, a black person can just hook off and fucking punch them in the face.
02:00:43.000And it was the time that Jamie Foxx's song, I'm Not a Gold Digger, was out.
02:00:47.000So I was singing that song, and I think I even said the N-word.
02:04:45.000Yeah, and when you hold off for a while from something you really love, it's like, you ever like not jerk off for a long time and then you just like end up hitting yourself in the face with your own cum.
02:05:01.000They got put up on a website called The Black Vault, and according to this article, the guy who runs the site obtained the CD-ROM, which I don't know who is using CD-ROMs, and it looks like they printed a CD label on like you would do when you burned a mixtape for your friends.
02:06:08.000When we think of the archetypal aliens with the large heads and the tiny bodies where we don't have any need for muscles anymore, and we don't have any need for genitals anymore because everything happens in the mind.
02:06:19.000We're all obsessed with breeding and fucking and social interaction and status and clout and material possessions and all these different things.
02:06:27.000But if we could eliminate all of our biological shortcomings and pitfalls, what would we look like?
02:07:08.000And then you look at what an alien looks like in terms of the archetypal gray with the big heads and the large eyes and the tiny little limbs.
02:07:29.000Do you think that it's possible that aliens are us in the future just coming back to peep and the reason they can't is because it's like back to the future it'll fuck up?
02:07:37.000It's also possible that this is the natural course of progression for biological life.
02:07:41.000And that if everything goes well, we don't get hit by a meteor or blow ourselves up in a nuclear accident, that we go from single-celled organisms to multi-celled organisms to some sort of a creature that figures out how to manipulate its environment.
02:07:55.000And once they figured out how to manipulate their environment, then they start manipulating their DNA. They start changing the environment they live in.
02:08:03.000They start changing, you know, the actual atmosphere.
02:08:06.000And then they start traveling to other planets and other worlds.
02:08:10.000They start figuring out intergalactic travel.
02:09:15.000If you go to the ancient Hindus, like the...
02:09:19.000Some of the ancient works of a lot of different civilizations, Vimanas and all these different flying crafts and these discussions in the Bible.
02:10:32.000I don't know a whole lot about Stonehenge because I spent so much time thinking about the pyramids and the Mayan ruins and the way they align with the cosmos.
02:10:41.000I didn't pay too much attention to Stonehenge.
02:10:43.000That is kind of crazy that all over the world at the same time they were building those same type of structures.
02:11:22.000That's definitely what they say they look like right there.
02:11:24.000He said that one of the things that they read when they were going over the people that had hired him had given him a breakdown of where these vehicles came from and what they were.
02:11:40.000They were saying in this literature that they had handled out to all the employees at S4, at least the ones that needed to know, was that we are the product of accelerated evolution.
02:11:51.000Is that aliens had come down here and taken the lower primates and genetically manipulated them and created the earliest versions of human beings.
02:12:00.000It sounds ridiculous until you realize that The biggest mystery in all of the fossil record is the doubling of the human brain size and human brain human beings over the period of I think it was like two million years their brain doubled it grew and they don't understand why and they don't know why we are so different than any other primate we wear clothes we think we talk we have complex language we manipulate our environment there's a lot of theories as to why we did it but the most outlandish theory
02:12:59.000He's like, but they know they're jewelry.
02:13:01.000But he says, and his mom too, because I asked his mom.
02:13:07.000And so they both, his mom, his dad, and his, I think his grandparent, I can't remember which one, they were all in, like, Yonkers, Westchester, and they were, like, on the porch, and they saw a UFO. And he says, this is how I believe him, because he told Paul,
02:13:22.000he was like, I wish I didn't see it, because he's one of those guys that doesn't believe in that, and, you know, and his mom, I think, is kind of religious, too, and she admitted she saw it.
02:13:29.000They said it came down, like, close, and then, like, it was like a dot in the sky.
02:14:54.000I'm scared of woke people that just want to fucking ban parlor and burn it all down and enforce their ideology because they've got a lot of power right now.
02:15:02.000I'm scared of people that think they're right.
02:15:05.000I'm scared of people that want to stifle free speech.
02:15:08.000I'm scared of people that want to stop debate and enforce their opinions.
02:15:49.000And unfortunately to me it seems like they are dictating the cultural conversation now for some reason, and all the politicians are pandering to that extreme base for some reason, and maybe it's because they're loud, maybe because also politicians are falling victim to thinking that Twitter is the real world,
02:16:07.000And we know more than anyone, comedians know, when you do a live performance, There's rarely any of that shit.
02:16:13.000People love it, whatever you say live, and that's the real pulse of America.
02:16:18.000It's not that fucking bullshit where people are hiding behind fucking avatars and arguing with Russian bots.
02:16:23.000I mean, this is fucking Russia and China to me.
02:16:26.000This is the way they've been fucking with us.
02:16:28.000I think they infiltrated education a long time ago, started like...
02:16:33.000Given perks to professors and liberal arts and started like slowly pushing this kind of anti-American, we're always the bad guy kind of, you know, mantra, this kind of like narrative that like, and it's become now, it's kind of culminated now in this sort of like hasty generalization,
02:16:50.000like these groups of people are bad and bad, good, white, black.
02:16:54.000You're like, dude, that is not the way it works.
02:16:56.000I know it's easy to, you got an A by quote, like, you know, going like, this is bad, this is good, but...
02:17:02.000Because it's the lazy way to do it because everyone's fucking lazy now.
02:17:04.000But if you look at history, there's a lot of uncomfortable truths that always fuck up that argument because human nature doesn't change and people aren't as racist as you think.
02:18:28.000Anytime a person is laughing because a human being was murdered, and not just murdered, but murdered with a fucking knife up his asshole.
02:18:35.000You ever see when that guy shoves that knife up his ass?
02:18:38.000When Qaddafi's sitting there and he's in shock, and he's surrounded by all those rebels, and they're screaming and yelling, and one guy takes a knife and shoves it up his ass?
02:19:48.000Human beings are thinking creatures who, when confronted with the evidence, there's going to be a number of people, whether it's more people or the majority of people or just a strong percentage that recognize the pitfalls of this particular ideology and the way we're looking at things.
02:20:07.000We're going to see things for what they really are, and we're going to get through this on the other side.
02:20:12.000I don't think it's going to be perfect, but I think we're going to move to a better place.
02:20:16.000And I think History has proven that over time, there's been tragedies, and there's been corrections, and there's been good things and bad things, but over time, we generally move to a better place and a more friendly and equal place.
02:20:33.000Yeah, I look back at history, I see these sort of cycles of errors of reason and then faith.
02:20:39.000Errors of reason and faith, like the Faith, you know, dark ages, then the Enlightenment, then, you know, it goes dark again, like, you know, the Arab world was flourishing, they created, you know, algebra was named after Al-Jabbar, and they kind of, and then, you know, Islam came and kind of went into an era of faith,
02:21:39.000When something happens, like the storming of the Capitol, when that shit happens on Capitol Hill, that needs to be stopped.
02:21:46.000And we need to educate people as to why that's awful, why that's terrible, and why a person like Donald Trump that calls for something like that, that person needs to be maligned.
02:22:38.000But most people, I think, are trying to get there.
02:22:41.000They're just trying to get there within their ideology.
02:22:44.000Whether it's someone like AOC or whether it's someone on the right, they're trying to get there within their ideology.
02:22:50.000They're trying to get to a better place.
02:22:52.000When someone like AOC is advocating for Medicare for All or all these other things that I agree with, They're doing that because they want to get to a better place.
02:23:01.000And then they're fighting against people on the right and so they sure up their arguments and they get more aggressive and they want to silence those people and shut those people down.
02:23:09.000But ultimately the reason why they want to do it, the reason why it's all taking place is because they want the world to be better.
02:23:16.000There's very few people that are in government that don't want the world to be a better place.
02:23:20.000The problem when someone like Donald Trump comes along is that when you look at someone who Whether you think he's a sociopath or we think he's an egomaniac, he wants what's best for himself.
02:23:34.000What we really need is leaders who want what's best for the world.
02:24:44.000And that's what you want from your top guy is a guy who's always in control.
02:24:48.000Saying the right thing yes, and then going and bombing the shit out of people what I like about Trump is Trump Trump gave support to the military in a way that Obama didn't where Trump they squashed Isis within one year because of Trump and My friends the friends that I have that are in the special forces and Kennedy I heard that in podcasts.
02:25:08.000They say, look, the world changed because of the decisions that Trump made.
02:25:13.000His mandate when he got into office was to let the military stop these problems before they become a real issue for America.
02:25:22.000Yeah, and a lot of those things are the reason I think he got elected, because he was saying things, he just was saying them wrong.
02:25:28.000Like, he was just saying them like a comic would say them, like with no filter, and like, when you're a statesman, you gotta say shit the right way, very tempered, and like you said, you have to appeal.
02:25:38.000That's not easy to be able to appeal to everyone and stay neutral in your rhetoric, because that's important.
02:25:45.000I mean, you're a public figure, and the whole world is hanging on every word you're saying, so that's what Obama was really good at.
02:26:46.000But then they keep going where it's like, we're at this point, I think the majority of people love trans people, are totally okay with it, and it's like trans people are the most beautiful thing, and it's a great thing, and it's a third gender, and it's great, and obviously their brains are a little different, they feel like females,
02:27:08.000And science can facilitate now a change, and that's great.
02:27:11.000But it's funny that now people are using science to make arguments against science, which is what I find fascinating, on the right and left.
02:27:19.000So left will go like gender doesn't exist, and that's because science has facilitated that you can kind of change your gender.
02:27:26.000So it's like you're arguing against science, which says biological sex exists.
02:29:28.000I didn't even think that I would ever get involved in a trans argument until there was a person that was fighting against women and not telling everybody that she was a man for 30 years and was a woman for two.
02:29:40.000And then started fighting women without telling everybody that she used to be a man.
02:29:45.000And they were like, she's always been a woman.
02:30:57.000But in fighting, it's the greatest issue.
02:30:59.000Because, again, what I talked about, it's high-level problem-solving with dire physical consequences.
02:31:05.000If you found a woman who'd been taking steroids for 30 years and has stopped for two years and started fighting other women, you'd be like, hey, she's cheated.
02:31:35.000And when real endocrinologists that aren't...
02:31:38.000Gender reassignment surgeons who really discuss this, they'll be honest with you, especially if they don't have to suffer social consequences of it.
02:31:48.000They'll tell you, like, there's a difference.
02:31:49.000Yeah, but nowadays it's like, yeah, it seems like everyone has at least a threat that you're going to suffer some sort of social consequences if you say something that a Twitter mob can kind of just hop on you about and just call you a name without discussion and saying he's transphobic.
02:32:04.000It's just like, But again, even a person who's been attacked, I can tell you that I think that they're doing it for the right reasons.
02:32:11.000They think that they're making the world a better place.
02:32:46.000Why do we have to call it – why does it have to creep into a category of someone who didn't – Have to take estrogen shots and was born in a gender that they didn't feel.
02:32:56.000Why can't they be two beautiful things?
02:33:19.000It's like, oh my god, you're attacking biological women for thinking that biological women should be able to compete against only biological women.
02:33:26.000J.K. Rawlings, I mean, her statement couldn't have been more reasonable and supportive.
02:35:40.000He's saying what we're saying, like it's a great thing, it's based on great principles, but it's just like that human need to, we have this thing in us where we don't, you know, it's like they used to say, an old expression I think from Rome is like, you know, when the war is over, you put down your sword and pick up your plow.
02:35:56.000It's like humans have a real hard time being like, okay, we won, Let's put the sword down and pick up the plow.
02:37:38.000Like what I was saying about podcasts, that people hear us talking, like, I got something to say too!
02:37:43.000Well, there's so many people that have something to say and can talk.
02:37:46.000And then other people hear it and they want to respond to it the same way you pulled over the side of the highway to argue with that dude on Twitter.
02:39:49.000It's like comics have, there's like famous and then there's comic famous.
02:39:53.000Whereas like you can go see like you're going to be tonight performing at a bar live.
02:39:56.000It's like we need as comics, we always need to sort of be the perennial underdog or else we lose material.
02:40:01.000There's something about us that always seeks humility.
02:40:04.000And it's kind of for a selfish reason, because you have to continue to be a comic, sort of a person of the people, because if you get too big, it becomes like that Steve Martin thing where he's like, I can't do this anymore.
02:41:10.000Is the optimism that you feel, do you think that's in any way tied to having children?
02:41:15.000Because I know I've had sort of a paradigm shift, and it's something that burr rides me about.
02:41:20.000I mean, he came on our podcast and just chewed me the fuck out for like an hour about how negative I am and fucking, you know, fucking, I used to be like you and it leads down a fucking bad road.
02:41:30.000And, you know, he was just chewing me out.
02:41:32.000And, you know, after my experience with COVID and like, you know, I got weird and started crying, I called him and I was like, you're right, Bill.
02:42:35.000One of the things that happened as I got older and I started raising children is I started looking at people instead of looking at them as like, oh, this guy is a 35-year-old man.
02:42:56.000I started looking at people like, oh, that's a baby that got bad information, and mean people, and no love, and no support, and no comfort, and they became angry, and they became resentful,
02:43:43.000He was a guy who was a baby, who was raised by a psychopath and a mother who was, you know, distant and probably just dealing with the fact that she was married to a psychopath.
02:44:09.000Because you try to protect your initial ideas and who you initially were.
02:44:16.000You want to defend your anger and defend your stances or your behavior or your positions.
02:44:23.000But it took me a while to realize that what I was recognizing was that who I am, who you are, who everybody is, is a direct result of the environment that you evolved and grew up in,
02:44:41.000the people that you encountered, the love that you received or the love you didn't receive, the hate that you received or the hate you didn't receive.
02:44:48.000The most spoiled people are the people that have the easiest.
02:44:52.000One of the hardest things about being a parent is that my favorite people, whether it's Joey Diaz or Ari Shafir, all the weirdos that I know, their fucking life was hard.
02:45:03.000And I don't want my kid's life to be hard.
02:45:05.000I want my kid's life to be filled with love.
02:45:07.000But my favorite people all grew up fucked up.
02:45:51.000But I was like, it's so hard for you to recognize that your life is easy.
02:45:56.000And we were having this conversation where...
02:46:00.000I was talking about the shit that I went through as a kid and some of the things that I went to where a guy tried to rape me when I was 13 and I was explaining this to her.
02:46:09.000I go, one of the reasons why I don't want you just like running out in the world is because you don't know that the world is filled with people who are mistreated and want to mistreat others and that there's bad people and I don't know how much to expose you to.
02:46:23.000But I want you to know that everything I do, whether it seems like it's ruining my life, I want you to know that all these decisions are made because I love you.
02:47:18.000And when I became a father, as I evolved as a father, and as I corrected myself and dealt with my own shortcomings, I started thinking of people as...
02:47:32.000You know, you want to just get mad at someone for who they are.
02:47:35.000This is the way I think about liberals, the way I think about right-wing people, that fucking idiot that looks like a champ that was sitting on Nancy Pelosi's desk.
02:47:43.000That poor bastard used to be a baby, you know?
02:47:46.000And someone or something or a series of things happened that were wrong.
02:47:51.000And he didn't get hugged enough or he didn't get educated enough or he didn't get enough acceptance or enough...
02:48:24.000I mean, that's a very enlightened, evolved way to look at people because we are – and that's kind of the problem in the world is everyone wants to think they're a finished product and that they're – everyone's scared to evolve or admit they were wrong is a big problem right now.
02:48:39.000They feel everyone's defensive and everyone's either right or wrong.
02:48:57.000I mean, unprecedented in human history.
02:49:00.000When the tech revolution hit on top of the industrial revolution and then the advances in medicine and stuff, we are so used to a level of comfort from air conditioning to Yeah.
02:49:32.000Those negative things are what make you grow.
02:49:34.000If you don't have any challenges or any brushes with reality, you don't evolve.
02:49:38.000If you don't hear another person's position or perspective, you don't evolve.
02:49:42.000If you don't put yourself in someone else's shoes, you don't evolve.
02:49:46.000It's like everyone is kind of just really, really bunkered down into their team right now and they don't want to see anyone else's perspective.
02:49:54.000They just want to demean them and say they're wrong.
02:52:22.000And because of that, I feel like that's what's going on with us.
02:52:28.000If you had a disagreement with someone and you had this three and a half hour conversation with them when you got to hash this out and talk through it, you probably realize, oh, this person's a good person.
02:52:41.000They just want the world to be a better place.
02:52:43.000They're just coming from a different world.
02:52:45.000I want to know what world you're coming from or what part of the world and I want to know what your perspective is and I want to understand it.
02:52:52.000And then if I understand it, I can't...
02:53:04.000We're doing that in these like 240 character chunks and then you're pulling over the side of the road to argue with these 240 character chunks and it's just a bad way.
02:53:15.000It's a really shitty, like a marginal...
02:53:18.000It's a very watered down way of communicating.
02:53:23.000Do you think people have it in them, though?
02:53:25.000Or are you coming from a perspective where you're projecting on other people what you yourself have?
02:54:11.000I don't think about things as much as the average person.
02:54:14.000I really think that's part of what's going on.
02:54:17.000I think one of the reasons why I've been put in this weird, unique position, if I had to look at it in terms of the greater plan of the universe, I'd be like, let's take this fucking dude who's been hitting the head a bunch of times, doesn't worry too much about shit.
02:54:31.000And also, I've experienced a lot of dangerous, like legitimately dangerous things.
02:54:37.000It's my position to talk in a, you know, I get it.
02:55:42.000And one of the reasons why I do is because I think that empathy is one of the most important principles that reasonable people can embrace.
02:55:52.000That's not really sewn into the fabric of America, unfortunately.
02:55:55.000We're kind of more of a rugged individual.
02:55:57.000I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps.
02:55:59.000I fucking jumped out of the vagina on my own.
02:56:10.000I think the people that are in a position of power, the people that do have the resources and do have the influence, it's your obligation to be empathetic.
02:56:21.000It's part of what comes with the program.
02:59:35.000Weirdly enough, from doing this podcast as a joke, just for fun and goofs, has become a legitimate place to discuss real issues that resonate with millions of people.
03:01:27.000More of this then in whether you agree with me or disagree Whether you fucking hate me or love me.
03:01:34.000We need more people talking about shit We need and to figure it out and that's one of the problems with banning parlor or gab or Mines or any of these fucking places like we need more people talking about shit And if you think that people shouldn't be calling for the death of politics,
03:01:50.000I agree with you They shouldn't be you should tell them that right?
03:04:15.000Whether it happens here or somewhere else, it's like the people want to hear.
03:04:19.000If you're going to be president of the United States and if we continue to evolve and we go on that hope train, it's like you're going to want to know a presidential candidate.
03:04:28.000Who they are for three, four hours in a row without like...
03:04:40.000When Lincoln was running for president, he would give these town square speeches that would go on for hours and hours.
03:04:45.000It's kind of wild how advanced things got that it's kind of coming back like the live performance is now the coveted thing because screens are everywhere and that's the special thing now that like TV used to be like oh you're on TV now you're on TV you're like fucking nobody's watching but like if you go to do a live show that's special also that like everything is like curated and everything is filtered and censored and gone through a series of executives and producers and networks But some things aren't.
03:05:16.000And people gravitate towards those things that aren't.
03:05:28.000At least there's not someone who's trying to lie to you because they have some sort of a vested interest in pushing some special interest group's narrative.
03:07:10.000But then you have to reconcile that with the reality of like, hey, that's coming out of somebody else's pocket and you don't want to- Whose pocket?
03:07:31.000Yeah, but I mean, like, if you look at why Greece collapsed, it's because everyone wanted the benefits of socialism, but nobody wanted to pay for it, especially at the top.
03:07:38.000They go hide their money, and they, you know, that's the thing.
03:07:41.000It's human nature, that greed that we got to kind of conquer, like...
03:08:51.000If you give a certain percentage of your check to make sure that fires are put out so that everyone's house doesn't burn down, we all agree.
03:09:00.000We need to look at that in terms of education, in terms of healthcare, but we also need to realize that people are fucking lazy, and people are weak, and we need to force them to get the fuck up and go.
03:09:13.000It doesn't mean that when you support socialist ideas, it doesn't mean that you don't support people that...
03:09:28.000Do you think if everyone saw where their taxes were going, like if there was a system where you could see, like you could vote on, these are the taxes we're paying, instead of the government making a decision or passing these Million-page bills where they sneak things in.
03:09:46.000The people had control of, like, my money's going to the schools.
03:10:04.000But it's like, hey, what if, like, the school system is great and we all chip in and you could see that your money was going towards that and everyone was chipping in.
03:10:14.000If you could talk to a man who's on his deathbed, who's dying, you have a million dollars in the bank, and you go, where do you want it to go?
03:10:25.000Do you want the world to be a better place?
03:11:01.000I think older women cut their hair short because if you notice, it's sort of an older – as women get older, they cut their hair shorter, shorter because they don't want to have like a guy in a bar see them from the back with long hair and be like, who's this?
03:11:14.000And then they turn around and it's like, I'm a wit.
03:13:51.000Their government's really, they have like a fund where they don't spend all the money.
03:13:56.000It's almost like they know it runs out and they have like a government has like a fund where they put all their oil money in there because they're oil rich.
03:14:04.000They were like a weird people living over there and then they got rich.
03:14:06.000They were always fucked with by the Swedes.
03:14:08.000And now it's funny because now the Swedes go to Norway to work because it's so rich.
03:14:13.000So I used to have a joke when I would go over there and perform where I would say like the Swedes, because they go work in like the bar industry and the service industry and then go back to Sweden because they made so much money.
03:14:20.000And I always said the Swedes were like the Mexicans in Norway.
03:14:23.000They just came back and sent money to their family in Sweden.
03:27:06.000Well, the weirdest description of life I ever read was this guy was describing how you live the same life over and over and over again until you get it right.
03:27:21.000And I brought it up to my daughter the other day, and she was angry.
03:27:24.000She was like, I don't want to do this.
03:33:37.000You're watching two dudes, you're like, this guy's strong here, striking, this guy's good at grappling, this guy's good at jujitsu, this guy's...
03:33:46.000There's a thing that makes it, you can reference all of the various aspects of any kind of discipline where it's like a really difficult struggle.
03:33:56.000You could reference those and use those as an example for life.
03:36:16.000That's us like a million years ago, whatever.
03:36:19.000And when you look at some of those tribes, like the Brazilian rainforest still has those indigenous tribes, and it's like looking back in time.
03:36:30.000But maybe better, because they don't have the distractions, they don't have a lot of the bullshit, and they're doing ayahuasca, you know, like merging with each other.
03:38:39.000The first couple times I probably didn't like it.
03:38:41.000But I know that now I've been through it and I know on the other end I'm going to learn something about myself.
03:38:47.000Why I'm scared, what I'm worried about.
03:38:50.000Like, the only way to really find out what you're worried about, especially if you're a protective person who's like, you know, your ego is strong and, you know, you think about yourself in a certain way, you've got to obliterate that.
03:39:02.000And the best way to obliterate that, for me, is like a bad trip.