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00:03:56.000Did you ever see those videos that they made where it was...
00:04:00.000I don't know who released the full video.
00:04:02.000The videos that they made where he was running for president and he sat down with his mom and he was talking about, you know, I go to church every day and she's like, every day?
00:04:25.000How about somebody from the wife's group text leaked, because they were inviting neighbors going, come to fucking Cabo or wherever the hell, come to Cancun.
00:04:33.000And somebody leaked it to the New York Times going, here's the group text proving they were inviting us all.
00:04:39.000I wonder how many moms were in that group text.
00:06:10.000And there are some of them that are more, I don't know what you would call it, libertarian in their ideology, where they don't want to shut people down and they want people to speak.
00:07:51.000They're going to hit that switch whenever they disagree with people.
00:07:53.000Well, it's weird because they also have billions of dollars.
00:07:55.000If you go on the Clubhouse app and you listen to these people talk, they are – I know you don't, but they are billionaires or worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:08:04.000And their concerns are always like you go into the app and somebody is like, we need more indigenous creators.
00:08:11.000We need more indigenous entrepreneurs or women of color entrepreneurs or all these goals that are laudable goals, whatever.
00:08:18.000But – Then a white guy will come into the conversation and go, well, he goes, I don't really, as a white guy, I want to apologize for even speaking.
00:08:57.000I troll and just have a little bit of fun.
00:08:59.000But on that app, you listen to these tech people and one really big tech woman who's massive said something that was chilling.
00:09:06.000She goes, we gotta put guardrails up online.
00:09:08.000And as soon as she said, we gotta put guardrails up, I felt chilled because I'm like, I know what she means by that.
00:09:14.000And guardrails are just like, here's where offensive speech is, and we're going to put the guardrail there, and then the guardrail's going to move.
00:11:01.000I think she has the right on her dating site to say, look, I've created this atmosphere where I want people to be pleasant on this atmosphere.
00:11:09.000Because it's a female-created dating site.
00:11:11.000I don't want guys sending dick pics unless I ask for them.
00:11:33.000I think these standards should be enforced uniformly.
00:11:36.000That's my experience of hearing a lot of these people talk.
00:11:39.000I think a lot of them are like, yeah, we should...
00:11:43.000Step in and curate a better world and create a better world and they think they're doing the right thing, but there's a huge downside to it, which I don't know if they realize because they just want to get everyone's data, sell it and make money.
00:11:56.000So they don't want anything getting in the way of that.
00:12:00.000The real problem is the consumers have become the product, and they didn't know they were the product, and now the people that were selling them are making insane amounts of money.
00:12:10.000And one of the interesting things that's going on right now is this fight between Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg, and Tim Cook.
00:12:17.000Tim Cook is like, hey, just selling ads is good enough.
00:12:20.000You shouldn't be selling people's data.
00:12:22.000You shouldn't be infringing on people's privacy.
00:12:25.000And we're going to put a stop to that.
00:12:26.000And so Facebook took out this – was it a full-page ad?
00:12:30.000They did something where they published this piece where Mark Zuckerberg was essentially saying that you are going to punish small businesses, which is the weirdest.
00:12:42.000Let's see what his argument against Tim Cook was.
00:14:26.000Well, you can't get upset if, listen, if you've done all those wonderful things, and then someone comes and makes fun of you, you go, what have you done?
00:16:56.000But he's 50 years old, and they're dabbling in this world now.
00:16:59.000But it's also like they're on YouTube.
00:17:00.000So you might be a fucking genius, but you're next to me and Logan Paul on YouTube.
00:17:05.000So I'm going to say something about something and whatever.
00:17:10.000If you're a genius, it shouldn't bother you.
00:17:12.000I would agree with you, but I just had a conversation with a brilliant friend of mine, literally one of the smartest people I know, and he has a podcast, and he's a...
00:17:23.000I don't want to say what he does, because I didn't ask him if I could talk about this, but he said, I need to talk to you about how to handle...
00:17:31.000Criticism and how to handle this stuff on social media.
00:17:33.000Because I engage too much or I think about it too much or I'm reading it too much and then it fucks with me.
00:18:13.000And it's the whole landscape of what's out there right now.
00:18:16.000And it's not just, you know, I don't pick a side or I don't go, I may agree with a side, but But I agree with a lot of what those guys say, but it's like, if something happens to be funny, I say it.
00:18:28.000Right, if you agree with them, and then you shit on the point that you agree with, because there's gold there.
00:19:45.000I've been coming here since, I think I did my first gig here in 99. I walked into it, get my hair done, and a woman was like, are you from California?
00:19:52.000Are you bringing your liberal politics here?
00:19:53.000I'm like, do I look like I'm bringing liberal politics?
00:21:38.000But he said something to the guy, like mafia shit.
00:21:39.000Yeah, well, Crystal and Sager covered it today on their show, and there's a clip on their Instagram page showing the guy, and he's explaining what Cuomo said to him.
00:21:54.000But he basically said, I will destroy you.
00:23:21.000Well, one of his aides leaked the fact that they were worried that these numbers were going to get out and that it was going to help the Trump administration.
00:25:18.000This brilliant guy who's dealing with social media pressure.
00:25:22.000You take in too much criticism and it starts to change your perspective, which starts to change your behavior, which becomes ultimately very detrimental.
00:25:30.000And you see it with Cuomo when he started saying, one of the things that he said about lockdowns, he was like, you know, if you didn't want to gain weight, you shouldn't have ate the cheesecake.
00:26:07.000And it's more likely that they're going to get sick that way than if you let them do things and just fucking go out in public and just go around and go places.
00:26:17.000Well, this was also a guy that when New York was descending into a crime-infested hellscape, he said, everybody come back, I'll cook for you.
00:27:14.000No, but it's not just they're horrible.
00:27:18.000We're going to really bring back the heart and soul of New York City.
00:27:20.000We need our arts and culture back, and we need people to see it and feel it, to participate in it, to know that that essence of New York City has not been defeated by the coronavirus, but will come back strong in 2021. That's Whitney Cummings.
00:27:47.000If I was a businessman who lost their business because they wouldn't allow me to stay open, but they allow Target to be open, they allow these giant businesses...
00:27:56.000Where was the guy with the bat for that?
00:29:27.000But it's just like, listen, if you took what I was thinking about nurses and I was thinking about cops, everybody would, you know, the media would say, oh, that's a great take.
00:31:22.000And it was all over the cover of the papers.
00:31:24.000And people said, and this was the early 90s, and there was about 28, 2900 homicides every year in New York City, which is almost like eight a day.
00:31:32.000It got so bad that that image of the Rockette with a knife in her back in Central Park, people started to go, we need a new direction.
00:31:39.000They elected Giuliani, who's since disgraced himself and become a goon.
00:31:43.000I won't- Don't you think that he just got old and his brain broke?
00:38:36.000An Inside Job, which shows it's about the financial crisis of 2008, and it shows how these people go from being professors who recommend certain regulations and requirements that are ultimately Terrible for the economy.
00:38:52.000And then they get promoted as, like, once they leave as professors and they've, you know, whatever institution that they're at, then they get these giant jobs that pay millions of dollars.
00:39:06.000It's like this weird little deal that they make.
00:39:08.000It's like this revolving door between, a lot of times, between government, private industry, higher education.
00:39:15.000It's like, yeah, it creates the oligarchy.
00:39:19.000But when the guy who, I don't remember who made that documentary, but he's obviously very well read in finance, and he understands how it all worked.
00:39:30.000And he was questioning these people, and you see them falling apart in the documentary, realizing that they've been trapped, and realizing that somebody understands the gig.
00:40:00.000And then you're introduced to this other mode of thing.
00:40:03.000Did you see the new article that came out that says they're allowing like tech companies to essentially form countries?
00:40:09.000I mean this is like the craziest article that came out that people are sharing all over Twitter where they're like it's like a lot of them have the power of countries anyway.
00:40:18.000Like you look at Amazon and Google and Facebook.
00:40:20.000They have the money of a country, have a GDP of like a mid-sized country or I did see the title of that article,
00:40:38.000but I didn't read it because I didn't want to get sick.
00:40:43.000But I mean, you will eventually, they'll just have a Google stand where they just set up an island and they go, we're Google-a-stan and we pay what taxes we want and, you know, fuck you.
00:42:59.000But here's the thing about that hydroxychloroquine.
00:43:01.000The fucking problem with Donald Trump is anything that was effective or anything that was true that was associated with Donald Trump was immediately rejected.
00:43:35.000And he was saying that if you look at all of the various aspects of this virus, when you look at it, it's much more likely, especially with the fact that there's a Level 4 lab in Wuhan right there.
00:44:49.000I do think that people don't have the energy anymore because I've been seeing it on Twitter and I think we're a few weeks or months away from who cares.
00:44:59.000I think Biden and Kamala, I think they're very boring.
00:45:19.000I think comedy is going to go back to being goofy and silly, and people that made living strictly talking about Trump or strictly talking about politics are going to have a tough time of it.
00:45:29.000I think after the Iraq War, that's when that alternative comedy scene started, where people started walking around with top hats.
00:45:36.000Because after the Iraq War and the mortgage crisis, nobody wanted to hear about anything serious.
00:50:48.000You feel like you should be able to leave dinner place.
00:50:49.000If I pay $450 for a cleaning fee, you should...
00:50:53.000And the thing is, there were two lesbian women, and I mentioned that, and that's why I was kicked off Airbnb, because they thought...
00:51:00.000Because you mentioned their sexual orientation.
00:51:01.000I mentioned they were a lesbian, and they had a horribly designed house, and they should have maybe asked a gay guy or someone to fix it, but...
00:51:08.000Well, as a gay guy, what have you done?
00:51:09.000What would you have done, rather, to fix it?
00:51:12.000Well, all the furniture, you couldn't sit in.
00:52:12.000I could see the photo and I knew who they were.
00:52:14.000And they probably saw my photo and went, I hate that fat conservative fuck or whatever, even though I'm really in the middle politically and even weight-wise.
00:55:25.000I would do acid and I would cross over.
00:55:27.000If I did DMT, I would go and when you meet the aliens and they give you all the information about how the world is, I would have tried to sell them condos.
00:55:35.000I would have brought them into my world.
01:01:24.000If you look at the history of the type of stuff like alternative media or radio or whatever, you are forced to confront him at some point in that history, right?
01:01:36.000Because he's this seminal figure in that movement and he's pissed off everyone that's ever existed and everyone has at one time hated him.
01:02:32.000When there is a peaceful protest and it's inconvenient and the powers that be do not want it to be there, what they do is they send in people wearing masks and dressing up in all black or in some sort of nondescript way.
01:03:34.000And he's saying crazy shit, and you know how that goes.
01:03:37.000Well, it's like Rush Limbaugh just died, and a lot of people obviously have strong opinions about Rush Limbaugh.
01:03:41.000I remember I used to listen to Rush Limbaugh growing up, and Rush Limbaugh to me was always this funny, cartoonish figure who was a little wild.
01:03:50.000You knew what he believed, and you knew what he purported to believe.
01:03:53.000And whether you agreed with him or not, he was this guy on the radio in the middle of the day for three hours a day for years.
01:05:23.000And I know that that family, the Sackler family, has kind of been ostracized from polite society now, like people won't even take their donations.
01:05:32.000For certain types of charities because they don't want to take the blood money.
01:05:37.000A lot of that is because of the woman I had on my podcast, Mariana Van Zeller.
01:07:18.000They carry these fucking backpacks filled with cocaine, like a million dollars worth of coke, or three-quarters of a million dollars worth of coke, on their back.
01:07:26.000And they're walking 18 hours through the fucking jungle.
01:07:29.000Because you can't afford to have it in a car, you'll get pulled over, people steal it.
01:07:34.000This is such an interesting process, what they do, you know?
01:08:46.000But that's what Vice used to be when it was fucking awesome.
01:08:48.000You would have little mini documentaries where people would go to like towns that were, you know, from like, you know, they go to Chernobyl or something.
01:16:44.000Podcasts, the other thing about podcasts, and this is the thing that I've been talking to Spotify about, as much as people hate the comment section of YouTube, I think it's important.
01:17:44.000And that's one of the reasons why there's so many hiccups in the transition between YouTube and what we're doing right now.
01:17:51.000I can't talk too much, but a lot of it is going to improve.
01:17:54.000There's a lot of stuff that they're on the verge of releasing, which will help a lot in terms of people having access to the video portion of the show.
01:18:26.000However, talk radio before the comment section was like this weird original comment section where people would call up and then they'd have regular callers.
01:18:36.000So you have the guys that have the top comment.
01:18:39.000Everyone's fighting to get that top comment or whatever.
01:18:41.000You had regular callers that would call in.
01:18:44.000And Bob Grant, there's one guy who's called Bob Grant, and he goes, you know, come on.
01:25:00.000It was announced that Johansson wanted to play Dante Text Gill, a trans man who ran a massage parlor and prostitution ring in Pittsburgh in the 1970s and 80s.
01:25:11.000There was pushback asserting that a trans actor should have a chance to play the part.
01:27:06.000Who the fuck is going to go to a movie theater now?
01:27:08.000It's also the idea of like, it's like if my grandparents and all the people that came to this country wanted to be fucking comedians or actors, we'd all be fucking dead.
01:27:17.000You want more trans people at the fucking post office.
01:27:20.000You don't want trans people, gay people, or anybody to throw their lives away on this crazy profession that works out for such a small percentage of people that try it.
01:28:21.000If you are up there and you make them laugh, one of the things that's saddest to me is watching people who are talented to a degree, but lazy.
01:28:33.000And they blame other extraneous outside forces and pressures for why they didn't make it in stand-up comedy.
01:28:42.000I'm like, man, that's rarely the case.
01:30:17.000A lot of them don't do, like a podcast.
01:30:19.000What I try to do, I try to do a bunch of, be funny on a bunch of different platforms, which saved my life because when the stage was taken away, I was like, okay, well, I have this podcast.
01:30:28.000I can make these funny videos and we can do these things.
01:32:48.000I mean, the advice that my generation got was very like pie in the sky.
01:32:52.000It was like, you can do anything you want, follow your dreams.
01:32:54.000But it was like, there was no next part of that, which is like, by the way, work, sacrifice, risk.
01:33:00.000You've got to tolerate levels of risk, right?
01:33:03.000I think that's part of it with comedy.
01:33:04.000You've got to tolerate levels of risk.
01:33:05.000You've got to do something for a while, not earn money, hope it works out, and then it's a little risky, and depending on where you are in your life, some people are better suited to do that than others.
01:33:37.000But they would get sandwiched in between Jesselneck, Diaz, Shafir, me, and they would get stuck in the middle of that, and they would just eat shit, and they would be angry, and they'd be angry at the store.
01:33:55.000And look, there's a parallel in jiu-jitsu, okay?
01:33:58.000And the parallel in jiu-jitsu is like, if you were in a gym where there's a bunch of white belts and blue belts, and you're a black belt, you go in there...
01:35:57.000But then you look at Bill Burr or Chappelle or you or guys that just have so many hours of material out and have crafted hour after hour after hour after hour.
01:36:06.000And you go, fuck, if I want to hang with those guys, I've got to be a lot better.
01:37:29.000I can make this place a stand-up haven.
01:37:33.000That's one of my main goals in life right now is to just figure out a way to, as a person who's established in stand-up and financially established and secure, you could just sit back and retire and relax in your laurels and just never work again.
01:37:50.000Or you can say, I can make a difference in this art form in that I can give a platform and create a place where people are safe.
01:39:00.000Whatever spark of brilliance that existed in their stand-up comedy in the early days that could have possibly led to something truly exceptional was extinguished and it was extinguished by this idea that you could become a part of this system that was very controlled and very censored and very like you could only exist you had to be left-wing you had to be progressive you had to be you know you can't have any controversial opinions because if you did people come after you You have this weird little area where,
01:39:30.000as a comic, for a guy like you, that's not...
01:39:35.000It's not good that there's such a stifling of that.
01:39:39.000But then there's also, listen, there's gotta be shitty shows for people that wanna watch them, so let a lot of those comics write shitty shows.
01:39:52.000Hey, if that's the way you want to spend your life, writing for whatever late night show, fill in the blank, you can do that.
01:40:00.000There's a lot of guys who could have gone, if they were here or they were in Hollywood in the late 90s, they could have gone down that road.
01:40:08.000The brilliant guys today, like Schultz or Giannis Papas or a lot of these guys, they could have been seduced.
01:41:15.000Modern art, you know, you want to go watch a bunch of fucking paint splatter on the wall with a fucking...
01:41:20.000I feel like you and Austin is almost hilarious because it's almost like a crazy movie where you are teaching blue-haired Antifa people to be comedians.
01:41:30.000There's a lot of really wild, far, whacked out people here and there's something hilarious about you telling a fat activist that – That they should hold it down on the waffles and write more.
01:41:45.000There's something hilarious about you.
01:43:40.000It's going to be interesting to see what happens in New York and L.A. and when the quarantine's over and people are out there vaccinated, things are better.
01:43:47.000Those cities I'd like to see get back.
01:43:49.000They might not even have to get vaccinated.
01:43:50.000You see what the numbers on COVID are?
01:45:31.000Their opinions are coming from, they don't, look, when I was 21 years old and I was an open miker, I remember wanting people to bomb, and it's shameful.
01:48:52.000I mean, he's like, for the guys that I'm around, and the New York guys that we kind of came up, he's just our idea of what a true, pure comic genius is, like a guy that doesn't give a fuck.
01:50:43.000It was like in the late 90s, where he went from being a guy who had really inconsistent performances on stage to being a guy where the comics would go to the back of the room and sit down and watch when he would go on stage.
01:52:43.000And I think that one of the things that's important is it's important to be able to criticize things that you don't like because there's parts of it that are valid.
01:52:52.000But then it's important to just go, who cares?
01:53:09.000I really do think it's coming, whether people want to admit it or not.
01:53:12.000And I think people are just going to realize that, like, as you said, life is too short to fight with everybody all the time about everything.
01:53:20.000We've got to get away from the politics and get into something that's a little more important.
01:53:27.000I think people like you are very important.
01:53:31.000I know you're right here, but I'm going to say this to your face.
01:53:34.000You have this ability to mock everything constantly.
01:53:39.000And I think that's critical because one of the saddest things is these comedians that have become serious political commentators with no sense of self-deprecation.
01:54:43.000So to me, it's like, I... And I've read books on those things, and I still know it's hard to know what the fuck's going on in that world.
01:54:50.000So the fact that you have written books about, like, whatever, and they're funny books about fucking midgets and shitting yourself, that's great.
01:54:57.000But then to go and say, and by the way, here's also my take on counterintelligence.
01:55:43.000He was illustrating a larger truth that was funny, and he fucking, like...
01:55:47.000Had to then come back and go, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I actually...
01:55:50.000So it's like with the Weinstein joke, it's like I'm not going to explain the joke.
01:55:54.000So it's like you can be offended or you can not be offended, but at the end of the day, it's like I'm not going to explain the joke to you.
01:56:03.000Either you can get on board or not be on board, and you don't have to like me.
01:58:26.000Like, when I would date a girl and she had, like, a really healthy mother and father and they were still together and they were dating since high school, I'd be like, ugh, they're gonna hate me.
01:58:37.000You wanted someone who could have similar experiences to you.
01:59:19.000But you also, you don't want to wish that you were a baseball player and just sell insurance forever and just watch baseball and just dream and wish.
02:00:25.000It would be a guy who was brought up and they'd go, he runs a show every Tuesday night at Ravioli's on Route 110. Please bring up this guy.
02:00:32.000And then he'd get up and it would just be tough.
02:00:35.000Were you around when Jimmy's Comedy Alley was around?
02:03:17.000Because he was like this sort of Avant-garde.
02:03:20.000He read a lot and he wanted his comedy to mean something.
02:03:24.000Which was interesting about that he would do really well in Long Island because those audiences aren't the smartest people, but he would really always do really well.
02:03:30.000Well, he did really well when I saw him.
02:07:29.000It's a long journey to figuring out how to be comfortable as yourself, not only in life, but then you have to do it on stage in front of hundreds or thousands of people.
02:09:32.000We're not supposed to be like, I am the greatest person that's ever lived, which is why I get up on stage and demand 300 people pay attention to me every night because I'm selfless.
02:11:27.000Is that really the case or is she just upset that you're getting a lot of attention?
02:11:31.000Well, I don't know what upsets her, but I think it's maybe a combination of both, but I just kind of went at her on the show without worry about, like, you know, what...
02:11:42.000It's my job to kind of be honest in that time.
02:14:33.000But they're cool when they meant something, like back in the, you know, when it was like 1995 and the nominees were like, Casino, Leaving Las Vegas, Apollo 13, like all these like, you're like, oh fuck, these are all good.
02:15:43.000It's just an art form that's brutal and violent, and it's only really truly appreciated by people that understand and or practice that art form.
02:16:33.000What matters is if you stop someone from doing something because of their color.
02:16:38.000It doesn't matter that people do it because if a certain percentage of people do it and they happen to be whatever, gay, straight, black, white, Asian, that's irrelevant.
02:16:51.000It's whether or not they're being inhibited, whether or not they're being prevented from doing it, whether there's a barrier, whether someone gets to, like, hey, you can't do this because you're gay.
02:18:05.000There's a guy, Robert William Appervire at the Comedy Store, who was like this, he was a lawyer who kind of went crazy, and he was like semi-homeless, and he would show up at the Comedy Store every week, and every week he would go on really late at night,
02:18:20.000and every week he would have these kind of funny, sort of witty one-liners, and that was his realm, you know?
02:18:28.000And he got some sort of a juice, some sort of charge out of performing, and Even though he never became a professional in the sense he never got paid.
02:18:41.000There was a guy that used to get up and just scream about his wife and just he threw his phone once in a bit and broke his phone.
02:18:48.000But this is like that's what he wanted to do.
02:18:51.000There was a guy in New York City who would get up on stage and he would do all these crazy anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and then he would come in the back of the room and his daughter called him.
02:18:58.000He's like, I'll help you with your homework when I get home, sweetie.
02:19:01.000We were like, well, at least he's a good father.
02:19:24.000No, people are, you know, and I think...
02:19:28.000I think that criticisms and commentary on people is all valid, but I also think that it's important to not dig too deep and not to be a shithead about it.
02:19:41.000You can mock things, but you see them, give them a hug.
02:19:44.000We always try to mock things in a way that's fun for us.
02:19:49.000Not always fun for what we're mocking.
02:19:51.000It's not fun for the people that are getting mocked.
02:26:49.000Well, I think it is everything so weaponized right now that they feel like if they fire her, they're handing her over.
02:26:55.000They're capitulating and they're handing her over to the enemies because they believe they're on one side and then the enemies are on the other side.
02:27:01.000I know nothing about her other than this story that has come across my news feed.
02:27:17.000If someone is saying something that is incorrect or you're wrongly attributing a quote to someone and then attacking them for that quote, that's not news.
02:27:44.000I don't know how many other people do, but I would imagine that more people would because, you know, the New York Times just ran this article by her, I believe, who said, you know, unfettered conversations are taking place online.
02:28:16.000In the process, Clubhouse has generated debate about whether audio is the next wave of social media, moving digital connections beyond text, What is cosmic poetry?
02:30:11.000There's a limited amount of flatter people can do.
02:30:14.000But before this, before anything happens, look, if you get one schizophrenic that shows up at the pizza place with a fucking rifle, and fires a round off in the ceiling, does that mean you need to delete the whole subject from the internet?
02:32:54.000Anyone who believes in something that much is happier than I'll ever be.
02:32:57.000It's weird to watch those videos, though.
02:32:59.000They removed them from YouTube, but I used to enjoy them, watching these people that were like, clearly, like, this was the first moment in their life where anybody was listening to them and taking them seriously.
02:33:09.000And they would say, Q says that this is going to happen.
02:34:09.000But it didn't appear to be dangerous to a lot of people until the storming of the Capitol, and then they went, Well, no, he had a violent cult of people willing to do almost anything for him.
02:35:24.000They all just call people up and threaten them.
02:35:26.000Well, do you imagine the pressure of being the president and to be hated as much as that guy was when all of your life you've been nothing but loved.
02:36:13.000The media developed this sort of industry that was based upon getting people really upset about things.
02:36:21.000And then, of course, with social media and the algorithms of Facebook and all these...
02:36:26.000It became weaponized where people leaned into the things that they hated and then it generated extreme wealth for the people that ran Facebook and all these social media sites.
02:36:37.000And then that became their sort of business model, whether it's CNN or CNBC... You know, CNN's ratings dropped 45% right after Trump left office.
02:42:01.000The Barry Crimmins documentary Bobcat Goldthwait did it, and it is fucking brilliant.
02:42:09.000It's fucking brilliant, and it's scary, because you realize, like, Jesus Christ, this was just 20-plus years ago.
02:42:15.000They were doing this, where they were allowing this stuff to live, and they were like, ah, it's the internet, I don't have to do anything about it.
02:42:20.000Like, you know, you have to stop this.
02:42:22.000Like, these people are being victimized.
02:43:20.000And then you had Barry Crimmins, who was this also brilliant comedian, but had a moral compass and an ethical compass and understood the political world in a way that these guys didn't.
02:44:29.000As much as people are mean and people are vicious, I think a lot of that is because they're scared and they're sad and they're angry and they're failures and they don't have their own shit together.
02:44:39.000I think that's what causes people to lash out and lie and attack and all the different things that people do that are so problematic and so...