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00:02:41.000And so that way, if I do, if I open with it, I mean, I'll even, like, after a special, if I got 40 new and I have to close with 20 from the special, I'll tell the crowd.
00:02:50.000I was like, all right, that's all the new jokes I got.
00:07:13.000uh i because i was in new york i opened up for tony v oh i love tony v yeah and they i was the host got paid 500 bucks it was crazy like i was like this is crazy i've never been paid 500 bucks for it right it's packed it's sold out i mean you just murder And I thought maybe it wasn't a hotel.
00:09:55.000Most of the time what I do is I write essays.
00:09:57.000Like, I'll have a subject that I'm working on, so I have this long...
00:10:02.000Long-form idea like oh, you know, whatever sub coffee, whatever pick a subject, right?
00:10:06.000So as I'm writing I just start writing all the shit about coffee and then out of it somewhere something I go aha I got something and I'll extract that and I'll put it on a separate piece of paper a Separate file.
00:10:18.000Yeah, say this is you know There's something in there.
00:10:21.000Yeah, and then sometimes there is and sometimes there's not and I have Fucking, I don't know how many these files that never went anywhere.
00:10:30.000I'll go back to them and just check, like, panning for gold again.
00:12:04.000And you feel, you get nervous when you, I mean, after a special though, there's definitely moments, like right now, when you're trying to write new stuff and you're like, dude, I might be one of the worst comedians that I've ever lived.
00:12:58.000He turns like big energy, big performing, takes his shirt off, everybody honks their horn.
00:13:03.000Dude, I had someone, we go to Butler, PA, it's pretty rough when you see a Ford F-150's lights hit you in the face because they leave early.
00:13:12.000Like, when you're on stage, dude, and it's just truck, these lights just hit you, and he couldn't figure out how to get out, so he's just driving, and you're like, just leave, man.
00:16:06.000The audience had mics on their tables.
00:16:08.000And so he put that in my monitor up a little louder.
00:16:11.000And so I could hear them laugh through the mask.
00:16:14.000Because they're laughing, but it's like, I just can't hear.
00:16:17.000Yeah, it's so frustrating when you're talking to people and they're trying to give you directions or explain something and you're just leaning in.
00:16:25.000I just pull it down and go, what's that?
00:18:14.000I mean, I, you know, I always say, like, if you've been to a place where it's been uncomfortable to have the mask on, like, if you go farther out of, like, a city, and I've walked in with a mask on, and you walk in, you're like, oh, sorry about that, everybody.
00:18:27.000Like, you just feel, like, they're like, what's COVID, dude?
00:18:49.000They've kind of announced no rules, but...
00:18:51.000They're fighting in here in Austin, but the cases are down in Austin, so they're lowering, like we were talking to the nurse out there, they're lowering whatever the stage it is that you're allowed to do things.
00:19:03.000Yeah, everything's going down, but I just did Stand Up Live in Phoenix.
00:20:55.000Well, it means whatever the number would be, whether it's per thousand or per million people.
00:21:03.000So if you have a place like California that has 40 million people in the state versus a place like Wyoming that has less than a million, you would say how many COVID cases they have per capita, like per 100 people.
00:21:15.000So Wyoming, they're basing it on whatever the number is.
00:21:19.000So if they're basing it on 100 people, they say Wyoming has X amount per capita versus California has whatever the number is.
00:21:29.000Why would they not just use the real numbers?
00:21:31.000Because they want you to think differently.
00:21:33.000Because if California has 2 million cases, there's 40 million people.
00:21:39.000Wyoming only has less than a million people in the entire state.
00:21:42.000So if Wyoming has a thousand cases, like, oh my god, Wyoming's a huge success story.
00:22:42.000Because I went, like, a whole year without doing any college at all.
00:22:45.000Like, I went, like, from, you know, graduating to, you know, when I was, I guess I graduated at 17 until whatever the fuck, you know, the next year.
00:24:04.000I remember when I first came there in 1993, I was doing something with MTV, and me and my friend Gary Valentine, we went out there, and he was staying with me, and we were wandering around.
00:28:59.000Everybody's a big deal, but they were big for me because when I went to New York, you know, at that time, 2005, something like that, Burr's just a comic that people know him in New York, but he's not what he is now, obviously.
00:29:13.000And so they would come by and they would run their HBO one-night stands for these 30-minute specials.
00:29:19.000And I remember I timed Patrice's one night.
00:30:23.000And you needed a guy like that to have a great point, like really well thought out point that was hilarious, that showed you why you shouldn't care or why something was stupid.
00:30:34.000I remember there was some controversy about Opie and Anthony, and he went on some show, and some woman was saying that certain jokes could never be funny.
00:30:45.000And he went and said a joke that was on that subject that was funny.
00:30:52.000And he was like, look, but this is a point that he had that's a really good point that I stick with to this day.
00:30:59.000It's like, it all comes from the same place, whether the joke is funny or the joke is not, whether it's offensive or whether it's hilarious and non-offensive.
00:31:15.000When you're a comic, you understand that.
00:31:16.000Because, like, you'll say something that some people might find offensive, but the only reason why you're saying it is not because you're trying to be mean.
00:31:24.000You're saying it because you think there's something funny in there.
00:31:26.000Like, you're trying to find the funny.
00:31:28.000And sometimes, like, you'll slip, and it doesn't work at all.
00:32:12.000I still live to this day by something Patrice said.
00:32:17.000I kind of started with Big J, Kurt Metzger.
00:32:22.000Kurt Metzger, by the way, and Kurt and Big J were one of the comics I ever saw that I just was like, really, where I was like, you moved to New York and you're like, oh, man, this is like the real.
00:35:08.000And so I got invited, and Jay, and then someone, I got into it with someone else, one of Patrice's friends, basically, and he was like, and he told Jay, hey, Patrice doesn't want Nate to come to the party.
00:35:19.000And then Jay calls Patrice and is like...
00:35:24.000Well, the context of this, too, is like, so Patrice would always ask me, I grew up in the South, like, I grew up, you know, Christian in the South, typical Southern upbringing, going to church, all this stuff.
00:35:32.000So Patrice knew that, and he would ask me, like, do you believe in dinosaurs and stuff?
00:35:35.000And I would just go with what, I would say no.
00:35:38.000I believe in them, but like, it was, you know, I was like, I want to just say no.
00:35:41.000Like, I'm not going to give him what he wants.
00:36:08.000With that open-mindedness to go, if someone came up to me and said, I don't believe in the moon, I'd rather talk to that guy than a guy that does believe in the moon.
00:36:16.000It's funner to be like, what kind of crazy...
00:36:20.000Do you know there's people out there that don't believe in the moon?
00:37:18.000It's wild, man, because the thing about these YouTube videos is, if somebody puts together a YouTube video, What they can do is talk very eloquently and articulately and say shit that's batshit crazy that doesn't make any sense at all to a scientist.
00:37:31.000But if they say it and no one interrupts them and goes, Stop!
00:38:05.000Like, the flat Earth thing was a great example of that.
00:38:08.000There was a period of time where it was like a mental contagion.
00:38:13.000Like, it made its way through a lot of dumb stoners, a lot of people that don't read, a lot of people that don't pay attention to science, or a lot of people that are like really in disbelief of everything the government says.
00:38:26.000And there was like hundreds of videos about space and the Earth being flat and, you know, that there's an ice wall around Antarctica.
00:38:37.000People have abandoned it, for the most part.
00:38:39.000But I used to follow it, like, to the point where I was like, it was one of the most stunning things about the internet, was how many people were out there that really believed the world was flat.
00:39:26.000I would like to see those guys' families, like just their family life, like their daughters, like, I drew a picture, and you're like, I don't have time for this, right?
00:41:27.000There's tons of video of them doing it.
00:41:29.000So if you saw that in between trees from 100 yards away at dusk, when it starts getting dark, and you're like, shit!
00:41:35.000And they make weird noises too, like bears, especially when they're standing up, because a lot of times when they're standing up, they're trying to threaten other bears.
00:41:42.000So they're like moving towards them and making themselves bigger by standing up.
00:43:40.000It was somewhere in Northern California, but they call them the Samurai Sounds.
00:43:47.000Samurai, and it's the weirdest shit ever, man.
00:43:49.000It's like these guys had this spot that they would go into the mountains, and they would hunt every year.
00:43:57.000And they built this structure out there, and then they brought recording equipment, and they claimed to have recorded sounds of these animals, these Bigfoot, and that these Bigfoot were around them all the time while they were up there.
00:44:31.000But, you know, like, they have these quote-unquote experts that say the human voice is not capable of making sounds remotely similar to this.
00:45:10.000I mean, if there really was giant fucking eight-foot apes out there wandering around like, you know, two, three hundred yards away from you screaming and whooping and talking, would you really, and you're in the woods, would you really be so calm?
00:45:25.000Wouldn't you be freaking the fuck out with these guys?
00:48:42.000And he said he heard something run away.
00:48:43.000Some bipedal sound of something running away.
00:48:47.000But again, even though he's an experienced woodsman, And he's a guy who's, you know, camped out countless nights in the middle of nowhere and survives in the middle of nowhere and documents it.
00:48:59.000Like, he's the reason why those Survivor shows exist.
00:49:14.000He did all sorts of different things to try to survive and then documented how he was doing it and what he would do.
00:49:20.000But he got obsessed with Bigfoot and then developed that Bigfoot show.
00:49:24.000And unfortunately, a lot of people lost a lot of faith in him because of that.
00:49:28.000They're like, no, you're the legit survivor guy, and now you're doing this show, and this is why it's ridiculous.
00:49:33.000There was one episode of the show where they had this guy who he was with who had video of a Sasquatch, like high-definition video, and it looks so fake.
00:49:45.000It's like the Sasquatch is looking at him through the woods, and he's like, there he is, there he is.
00:50:27.000There's other things, like, they would see trees that would fall over, like, in certain patterns, and they were convinced that Sasquatch was leaning these trees against each other.
00:50:38.000I thought it was like, yeah, to let you know where not to go.
00:52:11.000I know that they have the videos and stuff of the aliens, but if we get up straight up and start talking to one, I don't know what's going to happen.
00:52:18.000Well, here's something that came out today, Jamie.
00:52:21.000I'm going to send you this, because Sagar and Jetty from Rising on the Hill and I have been going back and forth with this, and I found this today and sent it to him.
00:53:03.000So there's these things that move in this weird way that don't show any propulsion system.
00:53:09.000And due to censorship, please join us on Telegram.
00:53:14.000I'm going to say, documents obtained by the drive show the revolutionary technology that has capability to alter space-time may actually be operable.
00:53:23.000According to the Naval Aviation Enterprise Chief Technology Officer, Dr. James, how do you say that name?
00:53:35.000Reflect on, why is technology that has a potential to change the entire human experience for the better always used for the defense purposes and military applications?
00:53:44.000What about the betterment of humanity?
00:54:06.000Twitter feed of Christopher Mellon, the former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary for Intelligence from 1997 to 2002. Doing so, I came across an interesting post from The Drive.
00:54:15.000Regarding documents they received via the Freedom of Information Act regarding a space-time modification weapon developed by the U.S. Navy, which apparently has already gone through experimental testing.
00:54:27.000This in turn led me to evidence suggesting that other revolutionary type of technology that could no doubt be used to change the world for the better, blah, blah, blah, was already operable.
00:55:28.000The United States military to work at Area S4, which is part of the Area 51 Site S4. Site 4 was this place where he allegedly worked to back engineer these spaceships.
00:55:45.000And the way these things moved around was exactly how this Christopher Mellon guy worked.
00:55:50.000Or this article, rather, that quoted him as describing that they used some sort of gravity, space-time bending technology.
00:55:58.000So they didn't use a propulsion system like a rocket that shoots flame out the back.
00:56:02.000They bent time in front of them and just would shoot instantaneously to wherever the fuck they wanted to go.
00:56:08.000So you'd be like instantly be able to go...
00:56:11.000What's fucked is that there was an instance off of the coast of San Diego in 2004 where a Navy pilot by the name of Commander David Fravor, who I've also had on the show, experienced this thing that they call the Tic Tac UFO. They tracked it with radar.
00:56:48.000So in that time, it traveled 80,000 feet.
00:56:52.000They have no idea how the fuck it did that.
00:56:54.000It shows no propulsion, heat signature.
00:56:57.000They took video footage of this thing and it went from there.
00:57:00.000It took off where they couldn't even follow it with their eye.
00:57:03.000It just disappeared to the predetermined destination where they were supposed to coordinate later.
00:57:08.000So it's like it's reading their tracking systems or reading where they were going.
00:57:13.000And the people that worked on the aircraft carrier were telling the fighter pilot, like, we've been seeing these things over, you know, we see them, like, every couple weeks.
00:57:21.000We have no idea what the fuck's going on.
00:58:07.000Basically, they're saying, hey, there are videos of things moving in a way that we don't understand, that aren't exhibiting a heat signature that indicates a propulsion system, and we don't know what it is.
00:58:23.000There's the COVID-19 bill that just got passed, and one of the provisions in the COVID-19 bill is that they have 180 days to release all the information they have about UFOs.
00:58:39.000But I don't know if they're going to do anything.
00:58:42.000That's funny that it's in the COVID-19 bill.
00:58:44.000A lot of weird shit was in the COVID-19 bill, like foreign aid.
00:58:49.000There's a lot of foreign aid to Pakistan, aid to all these countries.
00:58:52.000It's like people just, to get it passed, they're like, okay, we'll say yes, but I want you to do a little favor for me and put this in the bill.
00:59:00.000It just shows you how greasy politicians are.
00:59:24.000That instead of it being alien technology, it's some super high-level military tests and they've figured out how to do some things that we don't understand yet.
00:59:34.000The question is, how did they develop this stuff?
01:01:50.000And I remember thinking, oh my god, this is the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life.
01:01:54.000Like, this poor monkey wants to be in the jungle, wants to be swinging around on trees and eating fruit and having a good time with his monkey friends.
01:02:01.000Instead, he's alone in a cage being stared at by people all day long, just stared, stared at.
01:02:08.000And then you're like, then we took a picture and we got out of there.
01:02:10.000We go, all right, everybody get over it.
01:02:36.000You know, I think there's some endangered species that are kept in zoos and, you know, they can protect their numbers in a certain way in zoos.
01:02:45.000There's probably a better way to do it, though.
01:02:47.000There's probably a better way to do it.
01:03:01.000One of the things that's weird, and this is a pragmatic way of looking at it, but kind of a fucked up way of looking at it, is most species that have ever lived have gone extinct.
01:03:29.000I'm not saying we should let things go extinct, and I'm definitely not saying we should allow human beings' actions to make things go extinct and do nothing to prevent it.
01:03:44.000And I don't think we want to accept that because I think human beings, because we have a finite lifespan, we have a finite life, we know it's going to end.
01:04:38.000There's a place you can drive from Louisville, Kentucky to Nashville when you're driving down 65. And they have a life-size Stranosaurus Rex on the side of the road.
01:04:52.000But I always like seeing it because you're always like, how big was it?
01:06:42.000There's a life-size version of a raptor that's in a museum in Bozeman, Montana.
01:06:49.000And on one side, it shows what it would look like if it was a lizard, like a crocodile or something.
01:06:55.000On the other side, it shows it covered in feathers, and it goes over this theory that they might have had feathers, that they might have been...
01:07:03.000I love that they have both those up there.
01:07:05.000It's like being like, we don't know for sure, but it's probably one of those two.
01:08:01.000I've never been the craziest superhero fan or that kind of stuff, but I can definitely, if it catches me right, I'll be like, I'll see what's going on with this.
01:09:45.000So then I see Khabib, and now I'm fascinated by Khabib because you're like, oh, him and Jon Jones are these once-in-a-lifetime kind of guys.
01:09:54.000And so I love that, so I want to watch these ones.
01:09:58.000I want to watch because I'm like, these guys are not normal.
01:10:02.000And so we should be, I should be seeing these, and I think UFC does that.
01:10:06.000I understand Usman, when he said, like, show some respect to my name, I get it, because me, I almost didn't, I watched the fight, but I almost didn't.
01:10:15.000If I had something come up, I might not have watched it.
01:10:22.000And then after I watched it and I hear y'all talk about him and you explain how good this guy really is, I'm like, oh, I'll never miss another fight of him now.
01:10:30.000Because we don't know anything about the sport, really.
01:10:34.000So when you're telling me, like, hey, you're lucky to be, you know, in a sense, but we're lucky to be watching these guys.
01:15:55.000He's lost once his whole career, never lost the UFC, and literally...
01:16:00.000Maybe he's only lost one or two rounds ever in his career.
01:16:05.000I mean, you could make the argument that maybe he lost the first round of the Gilbert Burns fight, but towards the end of that first round, he was kind of beating Burns up when Burns was on the ground, but he did get dropped with some big punches, but then he wound up enforcing his will and pushing his will onto Gilbert.
01:16:23.000So you could make an argument that maybe Gilbert might have squeaked that round by, but maybe not.
01:16:28.000But then the second round, he smashes him.
01:16:59.000His idea is, listen, I'm just going to wear these motherfuckers out while I'm the champ, and then I'll get my knees replaced when I get older.
01:17:05.000Well, that's when I looked up who he would fight next, because then you look, you know, it's hard to sometimes even tell if they're weight classes, because sometimes you see a guy, you're like, what's this guy, like 190?
01:18:50.000The dream of every fighter is to go out, an undefeated champion, with millions of dollars in the bank, at the top of your game, in your prime, not when your skills are starting to deteriorate, not when you're taking too many shots, but go out on top.
01:19:07.000I would love to see him fight again, just because I'm a fan, because he's a monster.
01:19:11.000But I also, I love the fact that he decided not to.
01:19:15.000He's so, yeah, he's so, like, I've enjoyed, when I found out about him to really get to watch him, just because it was like, oh, this guy, I'm watching Michael Jordan.
01:20:54.000She won the gold medal in the 2012 and then again in the 2016 Olympics.
01:21:00.000And now she's an undefeated professional boxer.
01:21:04.000The Elite of the Elite, she's going to fight in MMA now.
01:21:07.000She's doing both for a while, and she's going to fight in June in her first MMA fight.
01:21:13.000There's an organization called the PFL. And she was on here yesterday, and that's one of the things that Clarissa was talking about was that...
01:21:20.000In boxing, they don't really promote women's fights, other than really hers is the only one.
01:21:27.000But that's why women's boxing just doesn't have the same value as women's MMA. Because women in MMA, they make great money, and there's big stars.
01:22:05.000Had brain damage after the fight and had to go and have this magnetic treatment on her brain that they do to soldiers after they get blown up.
01:22:46.000But to hear her scream like that was like, whoa, to this day, I'll listen to that and go, god.
01:22:51.000Just imagine where she was in the brink of defeat, taking all sorts of crazy punishment from the biggest striker in terms of, like, knockout power in Bantamweight history.
01:25:51.000And to watch that, it was like this was what everybody always wanted from martial arts.
01:25:56.000They wanted technique and skill to overcome all of these advantages that someone would have in size and power.
01:26:03.000It was like, I would ask, so I started too with Luis J. Gomez, and so Luis was a big reason too, Luis and Dave with MMA, because they were such big fans of it.
01:26:13.000So like back in New York, they would always talk about it.
01:26:16.000And too, that was a big part of it, like kind of hearing about it and being like, what's going on?
01:26:20.000But I remember talking to Bisping with Luis once.
01:26:23.000I was always fascinated too with the confidence that they can walk around with.
01:26:27.000Like, no one really knows, like, the confidence that, like, we asked Bisping, you're like, you're just never scared of anybody.
01:26:33.000Like, nobody's, when you walk around, I'm not in the, you don't want to, not that he wants to fight anybody, but you don't have, if I walk around and there's a bigger guy near me, you're just like, if that guy wanted to fight, like, hit me, like, he just can.
01:27:11.000What's it like to go to a mall and see a pack of 40 teenagers walk up to you and just be like, I mean, walk right through them, but I will destroy all of you.
01:28:06.000And I remember just thinking, that guy can beat up every human in this park.
01:28:12.000But what I love shows of him as a parent, that is, I always love that his daughter, who's the smallest of all of us at this park, is the least scared of that guy.
01:29:43.000Like, I know there's a lot of people making money, but there's a lot of situations where they can't even deposit We're good to go.
01:30:11.000One of the big dilemmas was they couldn't get credit cards.
01:30:13.000They couldn't get banks to use credit cards with them.
01:30:17.000So no one could pay with anything other than cash.
01:30:20.000So they had these places where they're doing insane amounts of business.
01:30:24.000They have weed tourism that was in Denver.
01:30:26.000And they'd have lines around the block of people paying cash.
01:30:29.000And then someone would come in with a ski mask on and fucking rob them.
01:30:33.000And then there was also people that were leaving the bank with bags of cash and taking it to the bank.
01:30:38.000Excuse me, leaving the dispensary with bags of cash and taking it to the bank.
01:30:43.000And they knew that there was cash in these cars, so they had to have guys with black sedans following them with armed guards, armed guards in the truck.
01:30:52.000It was a very complicated sort of a situation.
01:30:55.000Where they were very vulnerable because they because no one wanted anything to do with them It wasn't that they didn't want anything to do with them They wanted the money like the banks took the money because it was legal in the state But it's not federally legal right so if you have a like a company like Citibank or a company like you know American Express They're not gonna let you use credit cards to buy weed because that's and then what if they get in trouble and Because it's a weird gray area,
01:31:23.000because when things are federally Schedule 1, Schedule 1 is the most illegal, and that's what marijuana is, which is ridiculous, because it's legal in how many states now, Jamie?
01:33:42.000So we got high with this guy and he takes me back to the grow room.
01:33:45.000And when you're super duper high and you walk into a grow room, one of the weird things is like, I mean, maybe it's just me being high, but I felt like they were intelligent.
01:33:55.000Like I'm in this room and there's all this artificial light and there's all these vibrant, healthy pot plants.
01:34:03.000Because these guys had like a super sophisticated operation.
01:34:05.000It was a big ass room, like as big as that opening area on the front of the studio.
01:34:10.000And you walk in there and there's like...
01:34:12.000Hundreds and hundreds of plants and all these lights and you walk in and it's almost like, hello!
01:35:01.000And they're showing me how the water drips into the plants and keeps them healthy, and how they have this sort of irrigation system set up.
01:35:58.000And for a lot of people, it changed their life.
01:36:01.000People that were cancer patients, that were going through chemotherapy, that lost all their appetite, they would smoke weed, they would have their appetite back, and then they'd be able to eat, and they'd feel better.
01:36:25.000I mean, the idea of it, you know, I always think about that, like, if you had, like, my daughter, like, would I rather her drink or smoke weed?
01:36:33.000Like, you know, because it's like, alcohol is crazy.
01:36:47.000By the time she's 8, so by the time I say she's 21, I mean, who knows?
01:36:53.000Weed might be way more acceptable versus I'm still from the era that you feel like it's bad.
01:37:00.000I think one of the problems with weed is that, first of all, no one who's growing up, no one whose mind is developing should be doing any hardcore shit.
01:39:30.000He went downstairs, I think he went to the supermarket, bought food, cooked a meal, and then woke up in the morning and wanted to call the police.
01:39:37.000Because someone broke into his house and cooked.
01:44:24.000You know, like, I'm writing or something, or I'm watching TV. I'll just go grab some potato chips, and then next, you know, I'm half a bag in, and I'm like, ugh, what have I done?
01:46:09.000into those things not like I occasionally have popcorn like I have it more I would always say like McDonald's could never throw I I'm never surprised when I go to McDonald's menu I'm always pretty aware what they're doing like when the you know when the the rib sandwich McRib comes back like yeah dude I've someone's like you know McRib's back like yeah dude I've already had a few of them I remember the day it came back you got the email I get updated.
01:50:47.000I mean, because the days that I've, you know, if I've ever been like, I'm doing no carbs or something, and you do it for two days, it's like you can feel like amazing.
01:50:57.000Like you go, God, you just have energy, you feel great, or whatever, you know, for the little bit, just because it's a shock to my system.
01:51:05.000That we're not eating just garbage, dude.
01:53:18.000Matt Frazier, who was a five-time CrossFit champion when he was here the other day, one of the things that he said is that even talking to high-level nutritionists, they would tell him after a brutal workout, get sugar in your system, drink a can of Coke, eat a Snickers bar.
01:53:33.000And, like, sounds ridiculous, but your body, when you really exert yourself bad, it needs that sugar.
01:53:40.000I think the problem is when you eat that sugar and then you don't do anything.
01:53:44.000If you have a couple of donuts and you go golfing for a few hours, maybe not the worst thing in the world.
01:57:06.000And I'm like, what has to be, you know, because I'm working out and like going, then I'll go eat McDonald's and then I'll go do something else.
01:57:12.000And so I'm never putting in, I don't think I eat enough.
01:58:52.000Yeah, and he does, he's like, he competes in a lot of, our trainer, Matt, competes in a lot of like the, you know, the, whatever is it, the lifting heavy, the big.
02:00:28.000A lot of people think everybody's dumb.
02:00:31.000Everybody thinks, well, I'm not dumb, but you're dumb.
02:00:35.000And I think people kind of operate on that mindset.
02:00:39.000I'm not doing it for us, obviously, but you don't understand the idiots that we've got running around this country that don't know how to...
02:00:47.000Because that's why those guys would get caught being out.
02:00:49.000Like all those governors would get caught doing something.
02:01:09.000That's the argument for censoring conspiracy videos on YouTube.
02:01:14.000The argument is that if you read something or you watch a video and it's clearly nonsense about dinosaurs being fake, you're not going to go, oh my god, I can't believe I've been lied to all this time about dinosaurs.
02:01:28.000You're going to go, what is this crazy?
02:01:30.000Were you around when Art Bell was on the air?
02:02:49.000But if you watch any of those videos, you're like, wait a minute, Trump is still the president?
02:02:53.000He's still the president, and Biden's about to go to jail, and they're about to drop the hammer down, and the military's going to swoop in and take over the...
02:03:20.000There's a great thread that I found that somebody sent me to where these guys, after Trump lost...
02:03:27.000And then after the whole Capitol Hill insurrection, all that crazy shit happened, this guy was on one of those forums realizing that he's been a moron and that he's been had.
02:03:39.000He's like, I can't believe I've wasted all this time believing this bullshit.
02:03:43.000And people were also chiming in like, yeah, I'm kind of fucking disappointed in myself too.
02:03:51.000The most ridiculous theories that there was some...
02:03:56.000That it was all really some sort of child trafficking regime that they were trying to bring down, and that's why Trump was pretending to lose, and then they were gonna swoop in and arrest all these child sex traffickers.
02:04:10.000Yeah, I knew people that got really deep into it.
02:04:12.000I was trying to get them just to Alex Jones.
02:04:16.000I told a lot of people, I was like, let's just do Alex, do not go below Alex.
02:08:17.000Like, talking while he was watching it?
02:08:18.000He talked about it, like, is that, yeah, I just heard him talk about it a long time ago, just in an interview or something, and he just said he liked that show, or Storage Wars, or something, one of those, you know, a show like that.
02:08:29.000But it was just like, I don't know, you're like, I don't know, I feel like I never would have known that.
02:08:32.000Like these people become, like the idea of like Tom Cruise, I've always liked the idea.
02:08:38.000I don't know if he knows what, like how much money he is.
02:15:52.000He invented alternating current and Thomas Edison initially was like super skeptical or was a propagandist, I should say, against alternating current.
02:16:02.000And one of the things that he did was he electrocuted an elephant.
02:17:40.000Well, I think you only have so much room in your brain.
02:17:44.000And even a super powerful brain, like a person that's extraordinarily intelligent, there's only so much room, I really doubt you're going to have the smartest person ever who's also really good at telling jokes.
02:18:28.000But these guys, they're operating in this realm that You know, when you think about, like, we're talking about LeBron James or Michael Jordan, like, Khabib Nurmagomedov, super athletes, just the rarest of the rare humans.
02:18:42.000Well, there's people like that with brains.
02:18:44.000Just the rarest of the rare minds who can figure things out that most human beings are...
02:18:50.000You would give them a thousand lifetimes with that same brain.
02:18:52.000They have no shot at ever figuring out any of that shit.
02:18:55.000I don't care how much education they have.
02:19:49.000It's one of the things that makes us interesting, but when you get to a guy like a Nikola Tesla, or even an Elon Musk, they're almost so smart that there's...
02:21:41.000They're probably doing that just to battle the cartels.
02:21:43.000But the cartels are growing weed to send to America anyway.
02:21:47.000Maybe the cartels want it to be legal there, so it takes heat off of them growing it there and then just a matter of getting it over to America.
02:21:52.000Well, how rich those guys were, those cartels like Pablo Escobar and Chapo.
02:21:56.000I mean, they're billions and billions of dollars.
02:23:30.000He was working as a game warden for California, and as he was working for a game warden, he's a guy who likes outdoor activities like hunting and fishing and stuff, and he thought that's what he would do.
02:23:42.000Like, you know, hey, you have three trout, you're only supposed to have two, that kind of shit.
02:23:46.000Turns out, as he was on the job, they started finding, and this is at the beginning of it, these illegal grow operations.
02:23:55.000In California, in the national forests.
02:23:57.000So they'd find, like, trout rivers and trout streams that the water was all missing because it had been diverted to these illegal grow-ups that were in the middle of the woods on public land.
02:24:07.000And what they would do is because when they made marijuana legal, In California.
02:24:14.000One of the things they did was they said that if you have it and you grow it, even if you do it without a license, it's a misdemeanor.
02:24:20.000So because of that, they started growing 80% of all the illegal marijuana that's distributed through the United States in states where it is illegal.
02:24:30.000It was grown in California by the cartels in these crazy grow-ops that had just existed on these ranches.
02:24:37.000I know a dude who works at a ranch in Texas, works at Tohono Ranch, and they just found, they were wandering around, they saw these white pipes, like, what is this?
02:24:47.000And they found this giant illegal grow-op in the middle of the fucking ranch.
02:24:51.000These cartel dudes hiked in with all this hose and all this different shit, all this equipment that they need.
02:24:58.000They just hiked in on foot many, many miles with giant backpacks stuffed with shit.
02:25:03.000They hoofed it to these places and set up these grow-ups.
02:25:44.000Because they realized that there's a massive market for this stuff, and so they would grow it in these areas where very few people would go to.
02:25:52.000So they'd just go deep, deep, deep in the forest, like where those fucking Sasquatch noises were coming from, and that's what they would set up.
02:26:04.000But, I mean, when you go back to the early days of the cartel, we're not talking, like, the immense power that they've amassed over the last couple of decades.
02:26:12.000This is a fairly recent thing in history.
02:26:51.000I mean, back then there wasn't even comedy clubs.
02:26:53.000He would host shows where they would have like someone would be like a dancer would go out and perform and then a band would perform and He'd have all these different variety acts, and the comic would be the guy who would tell jokes in between these performances.
02:27:39.000And then there was Mort Sahl, and then of course George Carlin, and then Richard Pryor took it to a whole new level.
02:27:45.000He was the guy that really revolutionized it and made it the most funny.
02:27:50.000Because if you go back and watch Lenny Bruce, as brilliant and as important as that guy is in stand-up, his comedy is from a different era.
02:28:00.000Humans thought about things differently then.
02:29:17.000You kind of have to look at them as a historical piece instead of trying to listen to it in the context of 2021 with the internet and people can talk about anything.
02:30:55.000Why didn't he take off from the ground first?
02:30:57.000He had this whole bit about, you know, young man on acid realizes that life is merely energy condensed to a slow, rhythmic vibration, and we are all the imagination of ourselves.
02:31:16.000He introduced a lot of Noam Chomsky's work about the real history of interventionalist foreign policy and why we're in these foreign countries.
02:31:37.000Because he had this whole bit about the original Desert Storm War that was one of the more interesting bits ever about war because it was like flavored by his understanding of how these things get started in the first place, which he really never saw.
02:33:16.000Well, that's how New York was when I first moved there, is like seeing that, you know, the Village had Boston Comedy Club, The Cellar, we had the Village Lantern, was like around the other corner, and then they built some other clubs there, but then you'd have New York, New York Comedy Club,
02:33:31.000The Stand Up, The Stand now, Comic Strip, Dangerfields, which I think closed.
02:39:42.000Like, if you're one of those guys that is like a YouTube star, and then you become famous doing YouTube, and then the first time you do stand-up, people already know who you are, man, you're kind of fucked.
02:39:55.000I've always thought, I would always say, I think you make it at 20 or 40, and I don't think anybody makes it in the middle.
02:40:00.000Like, so it's either you come out of the gate and you get it immediately, or you have to wait until you're 40. If you could choose it, obviously we're all trying to make it at 20. That's the dream.
02:40:13.000So we all start this going, because there's the guys that you're like, you never know who's going to be in the audience.
02:40:21.000And then next thing you know, you're 28, you're 33, and you're doing better, but you're not what you thought you were.
02:40:28.000But if you wait it out, all the people that were 40, you realize that there's a lot of people that were 40 That became some of the best comedians.
02:41:28.000It most certainly can hamper it because you're so concerned with your television show and you're working on the television show all the time.
02:41:35.000Not that it's a bad thing to complain about.
02:41:37.000It's great to have a television show, but...
02:41:39.000That takes away time for your stand-up.
02:41:41.000When I was doing Fear Factor, I used to think about that sometimes.
02:41:44.000Like, man, I could be doing stand-up right now, and instead I'm watching people eat animal dicks, and this is not helping my act, other than being able to make fun of Fear Factor.
02:45:24.000And I was like, yeah, I should do the road.
02:45:25.000I'm like, I can't even believe I'm talking to Dice Clay.
02:45:28.000You know, when I was 19 years old, I remember me and my girlfriend at the time were listening to his stand-up in a cassette in my car, giggling like little kids.
02:45:36.000And then here I am talking to him, and he's giving me advice at the comedy store.
02:46:17.000Because I think, A, you've got to learn how to do these longer sets, too.
02:46:20.000Doing an hour, and that's what happens sometimes in New York.
02:46:24.000I know a lot of New York comics can be very easy to get stuck there, where you end up doing these spots and it's a good place to be, but you're doing 15 minutes or 10 minutes.
02:46:32.000And when I first would go out on the road and start headlining, I would be tired at 40 minutes.
02:46:58.000Like, I try to never take it for granted.
02:46:59.000You always, like, you just try to remind yourself, like, you almost, when you're there, too, you feel like they're there for someone else, which is always a very weird thing.
02:49:07.000Comedian was a big reason I moved to New York.
02:49:09.000Well, one of the things that changed is podcasts...
02:49:13.000Where comedians started having conversations like this, where people who are fans of comedy, now they get how we do it, and they get the process.
02:49:21.000So now, when they come to see you, if you're doing like a Tuesday night at Zaney's, they know, oh, Nate's working out some shit.
02:49:27.000They know you're up there fucking around.
02:49:29.000If you have some notes, they don't get, oh...
02:49:38.000Like, they understand the process, and they also understand that if they see you and you have this new bit about something that just happened today, and then they see you again six months from now, they like to see where that bit has gone.
02:49:49.000And they get to see the evolution of it and all the new tags that you've added to it and all the new places you've taken the concept of it.
02:50:05.000But it's usually like, I'm just kind of fleshing it out.
02:50:09.000Burr's the most interesting to me because what Bill does is just rant.
02:50:14.000I mean, I've been on his podcast, but for the most part, and he's had guests occasionally, and his wife is occasionally on his podcast, but for the most part, what it is, is Bill going, what the fuck, and just ranting for a fucking hour and a half, two hours, whatever he does,
02:50:29.000just ranting about all kinds of different things, and it's always entertaining, but what's interesting is there's so many different concepts that come out of these two a week, he does these Yeah, Monday and Thursday.
02:50:52.000Well, talking and being funny, that's the thing that I miss the most about New York, is the thing that you kind of lose is the busier you get.
02:50:58.000You get a family, you're touring, you're kind of alone.
02:51:01.000And with your family versus back then when you're going out every night with each other and you've got to be funnier with each other than everybody else.
02:52:11.000Well, I don't remember the whole backstory, but I remember it being, yeah, he was like, and I think they were going to sue him, and I remember them saying they were going to change the name, and then they changed it to Broadway Company Club.
02:52:22.000But I remember it being, because we'd be upstairs running this, like, late show, and then, I don't know if you've ever been in that club, but you walk straight back, and there's a great room.
02:52:35.000It sits probably, you know, 100 people.
02:52:37.000And the downstairs was the picnic table room, goes deep.
02:52:41.000And I remember you just hear Ben Bailey and Greer Barnes, dude.
02:52:44.000I met Greer Barnes in like the early 90s.
02:54:50.000I have to wear this shirt because I make fun of this shirt every time.
02:54:55.000But there was a comic in Nashville, it was an open mic a long time ago, and he had a ponytail, and he'd always do these five minutes about his ponytail.
02:58:14.000Yeah, it's a great way of looking at it.
02:58:17.000And again, with Bill's show, his show is so interesting because it's so different than anybody else's podcast.
02:58:24.000There's a few other guys that are doing it that way now where they rant about things.
02:58:27.000I think Theo Vaughn does it kind of similar.
02:58:29.000But it gives you, like, so much stuff to think and talk about.
02:58:33.000And it works those rant muscles, you know, where you could just...
02:58:38.000You get your brain kind of going down a hallway and you kind of configure some other stuff out and kind of grab stuff and, like, yeah, it's great.
02:59:16.000So I was trying to make sure it didn't feel like that.
02:59:18.000I open with stuff about COVID. And so I, you know, because I was like, you have to, you can't, I don't want to be, we're shooting a special outside in the audience's mask.
02:59:30.000And so I have a couple jokes that I do like, you know, five, eight minutes, something about COVID up top, very just down the middle kind of COVID. I'm not a, I don't like, I'm not a big preacher of, I don't care if you vote or not vote.
02:59:43.000You know, you just kind of go like, I'm just making dumb jokes.
02:59:46.000Like we talked about earlier, like being a comic that you're like, I don't know, what does it matter?
03:01:35.000I remember one of them, I don't know if it was a car chase or what, but there was a guy that was on a bridge with a shotgun and blew his brains out on television, and they didn't know if they should pull away or not, and they're filming it,
03:01:51.000they didn't know what was going to happen, and then boom!
03:01:53.000You see this guy blow his brains out on TV. That's the Erie, Pennsylvania, the documentary on Netflix in Erie, Pennsylvania.
03:02:01.000There's a comedy club there, Juniors Comedy Club.
03:02:04.000And you have to be clean to work that club.
03:02:07.000But the guy that had the bomb attached to his...
03:05:57.000I think he was abusive to his wife, I'm sure.
03:06:00.000She would be surprised to the extent, but it wasn't probably like she's like, yeah, he's crazy.
03:06:09.000Yeah, that guy scared the fuck out of me because the way he would be so calm about the way he murdered people, he'd be like, and he was abuse.
03:06:18.000His father abused the fuck out of him, and that turned him into that kind of a monster.
03:06:23.000If you abuse a kid that much when they're young and you make them angry and mean and vicious when they're that young and then they grow up to do something like that.
03:07:20.000They put like wall up, you know, sold out of them, whatever, the scents have sold out now, but yeah, they put like a, like, you know, dry, like something to make it real quick.