The Joe Rogan Experience - March 19, 2021


Joe Rogan Experience #1621 - Jim Breuer


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 11 minutes

Words per Minute

168.3617

Word Count

32,303

Sentence Count

3,647

Misogynist Sentences

106

Hate Speech Sentences

65


Summary

Comedian and TV host Joe Rogan joins Jemele to talk about his early days on Hardball and how he came out as gay in the early 90s. They also talk about how they first met, how they met, and how they became friends. Joe and Jemele also get into the early days of his comedy career and what it was like growing up in Los Angeles in the 90s and early 2000s. Joe also talks about how he got into the UFC and why he thinks Eddie Murphy should have been fired from Hardball. And how he first realized that he was gay when he was a kid growing up watching Rob Halford on MTV's MTV Rock and Roll and how it changed his perception of what it meant to be a rock and roll star. And why he doesn t have an earring in his right ear. And how it's a good thing he doesn't have a big hoop in his left ear because that's what defines what it means to be "gay" in the eyes of the people who know him the most. And why you should be allowed to have a little hoop in your left ear too. Joe also explains why he's not a "moron" and why you shouldn't have to have one in your right ear, even if it's not the most important part of your ear. And he also explains how he thinks you should not have a "big hoop" in your ear and why it's better than a "little hoop in the left. or you're not allowed to be gay. Thanks for listening to this episode, Joe! You're a good dude, bro. XOXO, -Jemele. -Eddie Murphy -Joe Rogan Joe Rogans - Jemele and EJ & EJ - EJ, EJOE ROGAN Thank you for being a good friend of mine and I hope you have a good day, mate. I love you, Joe XO, JOE, JORDY, and I appreciate you, JOGAN, JAMIE, JEANXO JOE R RYANGOOD FRIENDS, JO JEROME, JODY, AND JOE AND JAMES, JODA, JOSIE, I LOVE YOU, BABY! -SORRY ABOUT THIS EPISODES, ETC.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:15.000 What's up, Joe?
00:00:16.000 We're doing it.
00:00:17.000 What's happening?
00:00:17.000 Oh, it just started?
00:00:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:00:19.000 We're rolling.
00:00:19.000 Oh, okay.
00:00:20.000 Good to see you, brother.
00:00:20.000 Good to see you, too.
00:00:21.000 Dude, you're like one of my longest-term comedy friends.
00:00:25.000 We've known each other since the early years, man.
00:00:28.000 I want to say like 91. Yeah, I think it's around 91. And what a lot of people probably don't even know is the way your TV career...
00:00:38.000 Hardball.
00:00:39.000 Yeah, you were on Hardball.
00:00:42.000 Jim and I did a pilot for a sitcom that was on Fox in like 93. Yep.
00:00:49.000 Right?
00:00:49.000 Like 93?
00:00:50.000 Yep.
00:00:50.000 And Jim was the mascot of...
00:00:54.000 For the opposing team.
00:00:56.000 Right.
00:00:56.000 And it was fucking hilarious.
00:00:58.000 Goddamn, we had fun.
00:00:59.000 I have a photo of you and I. We look like babies.
00:01:03.000 I gotta find it.
00:01:04.000 We look like babies.
00:01:05.000 I would love to see that photo.
00:01:06.000 Yeah, we were both like 26. And we were little cute-faced little babies.
00:01:11.000 And I remember watching the show so excited for you.
00:01:17.000 And then after Hardball, because I'd always follow you, you then...
00:01:21.000 Was it news radio?
00:01:22.000 Yeah.
00:01:23.000 Yeah.
00:01:23.000 And I'm like, Joe's on news radio.
00:01:25.000 And I'd tell my wife and we'd watch like, we're so excited for Joe.
00:01:29.000 And then just watching you just constantly grow and grow.
00:01:35.000 And then when you started doing the UFC, I would tell my friends like, That's the real Joe.
00:01:47.000 Like, that's Joe's innocence.
00:01:48.000 And when you start doing this, I went, that's Joe Rogan, man.
00:01:54.000 Meaning, this is...
00:01:57.000 This is how I've known you forever.
00:01:59.000 It's not like we've hung out all the time, but I remember just being in LA, just hanging out talking to you, and I couldn't relate to a lot of...
00:02:07.000 You know, I wanted leather pants and a fucking white tiger walking down.
00:02:13.000 I was chasing it all, whatever.
00:02:15.000 Like, oh, stardom that way.
00:02:17.000 What did you want?
00:02:18.000 Dude, the first time I went to LA, I went into a place and I bought like satin blue clothes.
00:02:28.000 Really?
00:02:28.000 I wanted Eddie Murphy leather pants with like a tiger.
00:02:35.000 I wanted to walk down Melrose with a tiger just so people could go, fuckers, successful.
00:02:42.000 So you had some like high school boy, like the posters on the wall, like these kind of thoughts about success.
00:02:51.000 Well, MTV showed me that because I wanted to be Judas Priest.
00:02:56.000 I didn't know the guy was wearing an S&M outfit.
00:03:00.000 No, but he did.
00:03:02.000 He taught so many guys.
00:03:03.000 He came out with a bullwhip.
00:03:05.000 When he came out as gay, a lot of guys were like, hey, wait a minute.
00:03:09.000 Oh!
00:03:10.000 Duh!
00:03:11.000 I mean, look how he's dressed.
00:03:12.000 Give me a photo of Rob Halford.
00:03:14.000 I met Rob Halford.
00:03:16.000 He's a really nice guy.
00:03:17.000 I did this VH1 show that I hosted once, and he was one of the guests on it.
00:03:22.000 Super cool guy.
00:03:23.000 Great guy.
00:03:24.000 You got another thing coming?
00:03:26.000 And...
00:03:28.000 I would argue with people.
00:03:31.000 They'd go, Brewer, you know this guy's gay.
00:03:34.000 I'm like, no, he's not!
00:03:35.000 Look at the chaps.
00:03:36.000 You don't even see the chaps in that picture.
00:03:37.000 You just see the top of them.
00:03:39.000 He's got a bullwhip.
00:03:40.000 He's wearing an S&M outfit.
00:03:42.000 Look at that one.
00:03:43.000 Go to that one with the open shirt.
00:03:44.000 Right there.
00:03:45.000 He's screaming, I'm gay.
00:03:48.000 And I'm yelling at people going, no, he's not.
00:03:51.000 He's metal, you moron.
00:03:55.000 And the reason why I would argue is because I'd say, he doesn't have an earring in his right ear, because that's what defined what was gay.
00:04:03.000 I had dangling cross earrings, so everyone that was gay knew, hey, Brewer is not gay, he's got it on the left side.
00:04:11.000 But if you had it on the right ear, you're like, oh, this guy.
00:04:14.000 Remember that?
00:04:15.000 Of course I do!
00:04:16.000 I remember, if you were a rock and roll guy, you were allowed to have one in two years.
00:04:19.000 Yeah, and still, it was a little sketch.
00:04:22.000 For me, it was a little sketch, yeah.
00:04:25.000 Chatting your right ear.
00:04:26.000 And if you had hoops, they couldn't be too big.
00:04:29.000 I remember I got a hoop on my left ear and it was a little too big.
00:04:32.000 And I looked at myself in the mirror and I was like, I don't know about that hoop.
00:04:35.000 I'm glad I didn't know you at that point.
00:04:40.000 I think Joe turned a corner.
00:04:42.000 Something about that hoop.
00:04:43.000 Yeah, something about Joe.
00:04:44.000 He turned a corner.
00:04:45.000 Yeah, Rob Halford got everybody to dress up like an S&M person.
00:04:48.000 Dude, I swear in my life.
00:04:51.000 I went to this little shop.
00:04:52.000 I grew up in Long Island, and there was this little rock and roll shop named Slip Disc, and they sold the Rob Halford with the spikes.
00:05:03.000 The glove?
00:05:04.000 No.
00:05:05.000 It was around the wristband, right?
00:05:06.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:06.000 And I remember going to order pizza, and I rolled my denim jacket, and I go...
00:05:12.000 Let me get two slices.
00:05:15.000 And I just would let everyone know, like, you see what the fuck I got on?
00:05:20.000 You see what's going on, right?
00:05:24.000 What a bunch of morons.
00:05:26.000 That's why I can't get annoyed at my kids.
00:05:30.000 Because I had a dangling cross-hearing.
00:05:33.000 I'm wearing a denim jacket with painted Judas Priest on the back, and I think I know the world.
00:05:40.000 I mean, that's...
00:05:40.000 And I'm in LA, and I'm ready to wear leather pants.
00:05:43.000 Every kid's got to be able to make their own fucking ridiculous mistakes like that.
00:05:47.000 Yeah.
00:05:48.000 So, what I... I know you don't remember, but I remember being in LA with you.
00:05:55.000 I don't know what the hell we...
00:05:56.000 Maybe it was for the pilot.
00:05:58.000 And I'm ready to go and go star humping and get my star on.
00:06:03.000 And you're like, dude...
00:06:05.000 Want to go to the gym?
00:06:06.000 I went, the gym?
00:06:09.000 Why would you want to go to the gym?
00:06:11.000 We're in LA. He's like, bro, go to the gym.
00:06:13.000 I'm going to the pool hall.
00:06:15.000 You want to go to the pool hall?
00:06:16.000 And you dragged me to the pool hall.
00:06:18.000 And I was like, what am I doing?
00:06:20.000 That was Hollywood Billiards.
00:06:22.000 Yes!
00:06:22.000 Famous place.
00:06:23.000 But you stayed who you were.
00:06:27.000 And that I always admired.
00:06:30.000 I always admired that.
00:06:32.000 Well, I got lucky.
00:06:33.000 Those things didn't have an appeal to me, like going to parties and all that stuff.
00:06:38.000 There was no appeal.
00:06:39.000 For whatever reason, I just didn't find it interesting.
00:06:42.000 I mean, occasionally, occasionally, go to a party, talk to some interesting people, it's fun.
00:06:46.000 But for the most part, I felt like there was a lot of standing around.
00:06:50.000 And in Hollywood, the conversations that were really interesting were few and far between.
00:06:55.000 They weren't that...
00:06:56.000 Like, I've been to parties at Friends House that have, like, really cool friends, and you meet interesting people, and you have, like, really fun conversations.
00:07:03.000 But in Hollywood, it was a lot of, like, who you know, and what are you doing, and what we're planning, and how we're gonna take over, and...
00:07:10.000 Did you hear who has a deal?
00:07:12.000 Ooh...
00:07:12.000 Oh my god, I know him.
00:07:13.000 I could hook you up with that producer.
00:07:15.000 Oh, the deal thing.
00:07:16.000 And getting to know actors was such a...
00:07:18.000 It was like these poor folks had...
00:07:22.000 You know how a lot of kids today have a real problem with social media because they're looking at other people's stuff and other people's faces look perfect because they're wearing filters and they have this...
00:07:32.000 They see other people partying and they have the FOMO, the fear of missing out.
00:07:36.000 It's just...
00:07:37.000 They're constantly comparing themselves to other people.
00:07:39.000 Well, for actors...
00:07:41.000 What I saw when I lived in the 90s in Hollywood, it was the Hollywood Reporter and Variety and all of the industry magazines.
00:07:53.000 They would all sit around reading them the same way a jealous person looks at someone's Instagram.
00:07:58.000 Like you look at some guy's car, he's got a fucking 69 Camaro, shit!
00:08:03.000 Look at her with her Gucci bag and her this and her that.
00:08:06.000 And they'd also flaunt.
00:08:07.000 I remember being with some...
00:08:10.000 I don't even want to give the person credit.
00:08:12.000 So I'm working with some person and...
00:08:15.000 What's her name rhyme with?
00:08:18.000 Hats.
00:08:18.000 Hats.
00:08:23.000 So, Mr. Hatz, who's literally like a Dr. Seuss character anyway, would try to impress his people, and I'll never forget, he's like, I've got this brand new Lamborghini, you gotta check it out.
00:08:38.000 And so I, but Mr. Hatz didn't buy a brand new Lamborghini, he bought a used one, and he goes to this lot, which is next to Jay Lentz, that's all they do is name drop, name drop, money, name drop.
00:08:52.000 And so he's pulling out of the garage.
00:08:55.000 The side view mirror starts dangling.
00:08:57.000 And he's six foot three.
00:09:01.000 So he's in his fucking thing like this.
00:09:04.000 Hop over there, Papa.
00:09:07.000 While I try to abuse more young minds like yourself and rape your ideas.
00:09:14.000 So he hop in there.
00:09:15.000 And then the thing bottomed out.
00:09:18.000 Broke down two days later.
00:09:20.000 But...
00:09:21.000 Going to that distance just to show off is is just Exhausting some people they think that that's the only way in their head.
00:09:30.000 They've ever made it They have to have that thing where they show I've got the Lamborghini I got the house in the Hollywood Hills Like here.
00:09:37.000 I am like that's one of the reasons why people like to throw parties It's not just to have a bunch of people over the house to show you what they have like look and I was I think I was falling for that in the beginning I fell for it hard How'd you get out of it?
00:09:53.000 I love the way you live.
00:09:55.000 You live in New Jersey.
00:09:57.000 You live in a nice, beautiful community with trees and shit, and everything's calm, and you're a family man.
00:10:04.000 I love the fact that you just went, no, no, no.
00:10:09.000 No, no, no.
00:10:09.000 I grew up probably like the way you did.
00:10:13.000 I don't know exactly.
00:10:14.000 I grew up very blue collar.
00:10:15.000 My dad was sanitation.
00:10:17.000 My mom worked at the airport.
00:10:19.000 We lived near JFK. And everyone looked after each other.
00:10:24.000 It was a community.
00:10:25.000 It was a family.
00:10:25.000 You may not liked each other, but everyone...
00:10:27.000 I thrived for that my whole life once I left it.
00:10:32.000 Hollywood doesn't present.
00:10:33.000 Nothing where it presents.
00:10:34.000 So how did I leave it?
00:10:38.000 I think it was, honestly, I think getting fired.
00:10:45.000 Seeing too much of Hollywood, I got shot out of a cannon and I immediately had such a disgusting taste in my life.
00:10:54.000 I wanted nothing to do with anybody.
00:10:56.000 Yeah, you went from SNL to just going, fuck it.
00:11:00.000 I'm just going to do stand-up.
00:11:01.000 I'm going to do my radio show.
00:11:03.000 I'm going to do stand-up.
00:11:05.000 Right after, well, okay, so when you, at the end of the day, I didn't even want SNL. I didn't want SNL. You and I both know that was, nobody came out of there going, that's the greatest gig.
00:11:20.000 It's very rarely people came out of there.
00:11:21.000 They come out of there like they were in a fight.
00:11:23.000 Absolutely.
00:11:24.000 Like they just got out of a fucking bar fight.
00:11:26.000 Exactly.
00:11:27.000 That's how Phil Hartman was.
00:11:29.000 When I first started working with Phil Hartman in 94, he had just left SNL, and it took a while for him to be comfortable around us.
00:11:37.000 The news radio people, the actors, were super friendly.
00:11:40.000 Everybody liked to get hammered.
00:11:42.000 It was like the big thing.
00:11:43.000 We would get fucking blasted drunk.
00:11:46.000 But we were all, like, really, like, in terms of, like, actors, genuinely supportive.
00:11:52.000 Like, Dave Foley was the most supportive guy ever.
00:11:54.000 Like, he was always writing jokes for you.
00:11:56.000 He was always, like, rewriting scenes for you.
00:11:59.000 Like, Jim, why don't you come in and say this instead?
00:12:01.000 He would write, like, really great lines.
00:12:04.000 But Phil was like, like he was in a competition at first.
00:12:08.000 He thought like everybody was going to be competitive.
00:12:10.000 And then he, once he relaxed, Phil liked to smoke weed.
00:12:13.000 And once he relaxed, he's like, you know, going over there was like, everything was like dog eat dog and everybody's at each other's throats.
00:12:19.000 It's dog-eat-dog, and there's no rhyme or reason.
00:12:23.000 There's no rhyme or reason.
00:12:25.000 It's just like politics.
00:12:26.000 In other words, I can't help with Congress what bill they're going to pass.
00:12:30.000 Even they know this is going to work.
00:12:32.000 Nope.
00:12:33.000 Same kind of stuff.
00:12:34.000 It's the same exact thing.
00:12:35.000 Because you're fighting to get your bits on, right?
00:12:36.000 You're fighting to get your pieces on.
00:12:38.000 You're fighting to get your little sketches on.
00:12:40.000 Yeah, and the worst part is you know something's going to work.
00:12:47.000 And you have someone come to you.
00:12:49.000 Towards the end, it made me such a dark human being.
00:12:52.000 Because I'm the, hey man, let's all be a team.
00:12:59.000 When I worked with Hats, I said, let's look at this roster.
00:13:04.000 Holy crap.
00:13:05.000 Let's see who goes in the Boston Comedy Club.
00:13:07.000 Let's just buy a script and put everyone in it and let them play to their strength.
00:13:14.000 Wow, you know, this one.
00:13:16.000 I'm like...
00:13:17.000 I wish I had the business smarts to go back and do that because it would have been so much fun.
00:13:27.000 Maybe it would have been disaster.
00:13:29.000 Maybe I would have ended up getting leather pants.
00:13:31.000 I got my fucking white lion leather pants.
00:13:34.000 But it makes you so...
00:13:39.000 You know, I don't want to rehash bad memories.
00:13:42.000 You never got bitter, but you understood that bitterness is an option.
00:13:45.000 Correct.
00:13:46.000 And I start smoking an intense amount of pot.
00:13:49.000 Yeah.
00:13:49.000 Just to numb myself.
00:13:50.000 I remember when you told me you quit.
00:13:52.000 And you're like, dude, I'm hearing voices.
00:13:53.000 I think the government's following me.
00:13:56.000 You went so far.
00:13:57.000 I went far.
00:14:00.000 I went gym quit.
00:14:01.000 But then I talked to him.
00:14:03.000 I was like, oh, he might have went into Never Never Land.
00:14:05.000 He went to the land of no return.
00:14:07.000 Well...
00:14:08.000 When you start thinking that the government is watching you...
00:14:10.000 Non-stop.
00:14:11.000 Yeah.
00:14:11.000 Non-stop.
00:14:12.000 They're on me because they know I think by myself.
00:14:17.000 It's like the scene in Goodfellas.
00:14:19.000 The goddamn fucking helicopter.
00:14:20.000 I fucking love that scene.
00:14:22.000 But I will say this.
00:14:26.000 Yeah, I have...
00:14:29.000 Have you returned to the fold?
00:14:30.000 I haven't returned the way I have in the past.
00:14:33.000 Oh, but a little bit.
00:14:34.000 But I have...
00:14:35.000 I have...
00:14:36.000 You will never see me.
00:14:39.000 It's very private.
00:14:40.000 You're a private weed smoker?
00:14:42.000 Yeah.
00:14:43.000 How does that work?
00:14:45.000 In other words, I don't do it with people anymore because it keeps the paranoia away.
00:14:48.000 Because I don't trust anyone.
00:14:50.000 Oh, okay.
00:14:50.000 I don't trust anyone.
00:14:51.000 I still don't.
00:14:53.000 And I haven't smoked smoked.
00:14:56.000 I like...
00:14:56.000 A little bit.
00:14:57.000 I went out to Colorado and five little milligrams and ten little milligrams.
00:15:02.000 Fives are nice.
00:15:03.000 Those little edibles?
00:15:04.000 Oh, my God.
00:15:05.000 Fives are nice.
00:15:06.000 Yes.
00:15:06.000 Just have that and go...
00:15:08.000 Yeah, and then have like a martini.
00:15:10.000 I'm sad.
00:15:11.000 Yeah, a martini.
00:15:12.000 Extra dirty?
00:15:13.000 Not too dirty.
00:15:14.000 I like it dirty.
00:15:15.000 I like it not crazy dirty, but a little dirty.
00:15:18.000 A little dirty.
00:15:20.000 I like that olive juice.
00:15:21.000 It's delicious.
00:15:22.000 I do too.
00:15:23.000 So, here's what happened.
00:15:25.000 My wife...
00:15:26.000 This is why my wife's a powerhouse.
00:15:29.000 She...
00:15:30.000 When you find someone that don't give a shit about the industry, and they only care about you, it's very hard...
00:15:39.000 As an artist that's chasing a star, because you're always chasing the star, and you're always chasing the mansion, she would go, I'll never forget, she's like, why don't you just quit?
00:15:51.000 Like, seriously, are you stupid?
00:15:53.000 You don't QUIT, Cyanate Live!
00:15:55.000 What the hell is- and she's like, look at you.
00:15:57.000 You come home, you're miserable, they control everything, they steal your ideas.
00:16:03.000 This one stole- I saw in my own two eyes how they treated you in this particular- How do they steal your ideas?
00:16:10.000 Here we go.
00:16:11.000 I'll give you- You sure you don't want to get high first?
00:16:14.000 No.
00:16:15.000 Let's go take a pee break.
00:16:18.000 Let's take a pee break.
00:16:19.000 No, here's...
00:16:20.000 And again, I've released all this.
00:16:23.000 Okay.
00:16:23.000 You know, I got a strong moral backbone.
00:16:26.000 I'm good.
00:16:28.000 So, no, I don't have any bad feelings.
00:16:31.000 What happened was, and I'm not going to put out...
00:16:32.000 I don't want to hash names and all that, but what would happen is something like this.
00:16:37.000 You're writing a sketch.
00:16:40.000 And then one of the head writers would come in in the doorway and go, Hey, I see you're writing a sketch about blah, blah, blah, because we have the main server and we check everyone's sketches.
00:16:52.000 I just want to let you know I'm writing the same thing.
00:16:56.000 He goes, You can continue yours, but, you know...
00:17:00.000 I'm in the room with Lorne.
00:17:03.000 I'm just...
00:17:03.000 Whoa.
00:17:04.000 Oh, yeah.
00:17:05.000 So this is at...
00:17:06.000 So they would go onto the server, they would see the sketches that you're writing, and then...
00:17:11.000 Then there was times where a cast member would come in and look at my board and...
00:17:20.000 And go, oh, what does that mean?
00:17:23.000 Like, oh, that's a sketch.
00:17:26.000 And I know so-and-so's coming.
00:17:28.000 And I know the ratings are going to be high that week.
00:17:31.000 So I'm waiting to bring my A stuff for that.
00:17:34.000 Everyone's going to come out with their fangs out when this one's on.
00:17:37.000 So I'm going to save that sketch for when they're on.
00:17:42.000 And then this person would ask me, oh my god, what exactly?
00:17:47.000 I said, well, I'm going to take it out of its element.
00:17:51.000 Back then, I was like, Pesci.
00:17:53.000 And I'm like, Pesci's gonna read to children about Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and explain why his nose is red.
00:18:00.000 And the big joke is because he's a rat and I compare it to a whole neighborhood.
00:18:04.000 He's a rat.
00:18:05.000 That's why his nose is red.
00:18:07.000 And so you end up beating certain kids, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:10.000 The next week...
00:18:13.000 The whole room is set, and you're sitting there, and then this person, you know, Lauren goes, next sketch is, you know, Al Pacino, a Scarface, reading to schoolchildren, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
00:18:28.000 And you go...
00:18:29.000 And you look, you see their eyes are down.
00:18:34.000 You know what's going on.
00:18:36.000 You know what happened.
00:18:37.000 And you can't say anything.
00:18:39.000 Well...
00:18:42.000 When you say something, which I eventually did, dude, I think I may be, and I want to challenge all SNL cast and writers, I may be the last one that threatened violence.
00:18:55.000 I was in a room...
00:18:59.000 With one of the guys, and I literally said, I will knock your fucking teeth down your fucking throat, you motherfucker!
00:19:07.000 If you don't want to fucking be here, get the fuck out!
00:19:10.000 You don't shit on my shit because you don't want to fucking...
00:19:13.000 Oh, dude.
00:19:16.000 And I told him, I'm knocking his fucking teeth down his throat.
00:19:20.000 I'm not from the writing world.
00:19:23.000 so that's where that place brought me wow and so and that particular instance was see now i'm getting all over that's got to be coming from the top down because the when when i got alone with phil like phil and i became close and you know we would hang out together especially in his his dress room he had a nice dress room had it all set up had a guitar looking at his aviation books and shit and And we would talk about his time there.
00:19:50.000 And he's like, it just made me bitter and angry.
00:19:54.000 Yes!
00:19:54.000 Yeah, but it seems like it's always been that way.
00:19:57.000 That it's been from the top down.
00:19:59.000 And this particular...
00:20:01.000 What year were you on?
00:20:02.000 95 to 98. So you were on right after Phil left.
00:20:05.000 Yeah.
00:20:06.000 Because I was with Phil in 94. And so when that person did that, I then went up to them and I waited.
00:20:15.000 And I was like, you motherfucker...
00:20:18.000 He goes, I didn't, no, I didn't take it.
00:20:21.000 Now this one also is getting more airtime because they're in with this specific head writer.
00:20:27.000 And then the head writer comes to me, hey man, leave him alone.
00:20:32.000 I go, hey man, stop him from stealing.
00:20:36.000 Well, you know, I don't care what he does, just leave him alone during my sketches.
00:20:44.000 It's like you're in high school.
00:20:46.000 And so, yeah, it makes you...
00:20:49.000 I remember doing something where I played a drunk guy.
00:20:56.000 And I didn't know exactly how to do it, but I always wanted to be another Foster Brooks.
00:21:01.000 I loved Foster Brooks.
00:21:04.000 He made me laugh.
00:21:05.000 You know who he is?
00:21:06.000 Do you remember Foster Brooks?
00:21:08.000 No, I don't.
00:21:08.000 Dude.
00:21:09.000 The Foster Brooks...
00:21:11.000 Do you know who he is?
00:21:11.000 Dean Martin, the airplane.
00:21:15.000 This guy was the greatest drunk in history.
00:21:18.000 In history.
00:21:19.000 He was belly laughing funny to the point where I don't believe he was sober, even though clearly he was just doing a character.
00:21:27.000 He was the greatest drunk character in history.
00:21:32.000 That's Foster Brooks?
00:21:33.000 That's Foster Brooks.
00:21:34.000 I have no idea who this guy is.
00:21:35.000 Are you kidding me?
00:21:36.000 You gotta...
00:21:58.000 See now...
00:21:58.000 So he was playing a drum.
00:21:59.000 Yeah, yeah, but he's...
00:22:01.000 He's overdone the character by this sketch.
00:22:03.000 You gotta go back when he's doing the airplane.
00:22:07.000 There's an airplane sketch where he does, and this is when he first started coming out.
00:22:13.000 So long story short, I wanted to do another Foster Brooks type thing.
00:22:17.000 So I did the character.
00:22:18.000 I'm not a great writer.
00:22:19.000 I'm not a good writer at all.
00:22:22.000 But, like, I'll come up with a character and try to...
00:22:25.000 And if we could put it somewhere, great.
00:22:28.000 And I remember the writer coming up saying, yeah, Lauren doesn't like drunks because, you know, the past and John and blah, blah, blah.
00:22:37.000 Oh, okay.
00:22:38.000 And then two weeks later...
00:22:40.000 John Belushi, I mean?
00:22:41.000 Yeah, I guess that's what he meant.
00:22:42.000 And then two weeks later, it's the drunk character.
00:22:47.000 I'm like, dude, what the...
00:22:51.000 It's little things that mind screw you like that.
00:22:55.000 So by the time the big finale was towards the end, someone told me...
00:23:03.000 You know what Sandler did?
00:23:05.000 Sandler went through this.
00:23:06.000 Everyone went through this.
00:23:07.000 Comedians go through this.
00:23:09.000 What you got to do is get on the update and you got to do everything you can to go on the update and everything you can to get in the opening monologue because the headwriters can't mess with you.
00:23:20.000 He goes, that's not really their department.
00:23:22.000 That is so crazy that that's something you have to think about.
00:23:25.000 So then that's why I started doing it.
00:23:26.000 If you notice in 98, I started getting more monologues.
00:23:30.000 And then even there, they were like, we got this.
00:23:34.000 And then it was a final monologue.
00:23:36.000 It was Matthew Broderick.
00:23:39.000 And it was when Matthew Broderick was on, he couldn't get through some of the sketches I was doing with him.
00:23:45.000 He'd start laughing.
00:23:47.000 And so when we went to...
00:23:50.000 He really wanted to do this monologue with me.
00:23:53.000 And this one...
00:23:54.000 These particular head writers were like, no, we're not doing it.
00:23:57.000 Although Matthew was like, I want to do Jim's.
00:24:00.000 I want to do Jim and Tracy's.
00:24:03.000 And...
00:24:04.000 There was two, three sketches we had together, and he laughed during the dress.
00:24:09.000 Like, he couldn't keep a straight face.
00:24:10.000 And then I remember this particular writer I had a problem with.
00:24:14.000 I didn't have a problem.
00:24:15.000 He just didn't like it.
00:24:16.000 Whatever.
00:24:16.000 He had a hard arm for me.
00:24:17.000 Whatever.
00:24:18.000 I don't understand ego.
00:24:20.000 If you've got an ego, that is what it is.
00:24:22.000 And he said, yeah, it's too bad he laughed because now we don't know if it works.
00:24:26.000 So that's going to be cut and it's cut.
00:24:28.000 And listen, we filmed the monologue.
00:24:31.000 It worked, but we're going to go with my monologue during the air show.
00:24:37.000 I was like, you know what, man, I'm going to talk to Lauren.
00:24:40.000 He goes, no, you're not.
00:24:41.000 I said, no, I'm talking to Lauren now.
00:24:42.000 I'm not afraid to talk to Lauren anymore.
00:24:44.000 Because that's another thing.
00:24:45.000 It's like, you know, I'll talk to the president.
00:24:47.000 Don't talk to the president.
00:24:49.000 They put this...
00:24:50.000 So he would say, no, you're not, and you're going to talk to Lauren?
00:24:52.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:24:53.000 We'll talk to him.
00:24:53.000 No, we'll both go talk to him.
00:24:56.000 And then I knew right from that minute I was done.
00:25:00.000 I knew I was done.
00:25:01.000 And then that summer, this guy named Gary Considine, he ran The Tonight Show, and he said, Jim, what happened, dude?
00:25:10.000 I said, what's the matter?
00:25:11.000 He goes, so-and-so and so-and-so are really saying you're out.
00:25:18.000 And I went, really?
00:25:20.000 I go, well, I'll tell you what.
00:25:21.000 I don't want to be there anymore.
00:25:22.000 My wife's like, just please quit.
00:25:25.000 She goes, you said in your life, if any job, no matter how much money it paid, makes you a miserable human being and changes the person you are, you weren't going to work there.
00:25:37.000 She's like, look at you.
00:25:38.000 You're angry all the time.
00:25:39.000 You smoke pot all the time to numb yourself.
00:25:43.000 You're not Jim anymore.
00:25:46.000 Where's the goofy, uplifting Jim?
00:25:50.000 And I wanted to...
00:25:51.000 I wanted to...
00:25:52.000 Like, you're so stupid, but...
00:25:55.000 You're so stupid.
00:25:59.000 But she was so smart.
00:26:01.000 She was so smart.
00:26:02.000 And it was the greatest.
00:26:04.000 And I give Lorne a lot of credit.
00:26:07.000 Because Lorne said to me...
00:26:10.000 Jim, you're too nice for this business.
00:26:14.000 Wow.
00:26:15.000 And he said...
00:26:17.000 Which I'll never forget.
00:26:18.000 It was a couple things Lorne said, and I never blamed Lorne.
00:26:20.000 I always really admired Lorne.
00:26:23.000 I said, uh...
00:26:26.000 Oh, he goes, and if you ever want to do something, I'm your producer.
00:26:30.000 I'll produce it for you.
00:26:31.000 Which I never took that opportunity up, but I'll never forget when he said that to me.
00:26:37.000 So I was very thankful that he was understanding and let me go.
00:26:42.000 You know, Mitch Hedberg had a great line once about how when you're a comic, everybody wants you to be an actor.
00:26:47.000 You know, remember that bit?
00:26:48.000 Yes.
00:26:49.000 It's so true because as a comic, you're such a great comic and you're so funny.
00:26:53.000 Your comedy is so wild and it's so uniquely you.
00:26:58.000 Like, even though you were great on SNL, you're so much better as a comic.
00:27:02.000 That's your world.
00:27:03.000 It's my world.
00:27:04.000 And no one can fuck with you and you could do the whole thing yourself and then people come to see it for what it is.
00:27:09.000 Yes.
00:27:10.000 Yeah, and you don't have to deal with Weasley writers.
00:27:13.000 And if I fail, I can live with that.
00:27:16.000 I can live with my failure.
00:27:18.000 The environments that they created in all the different seasons of SNL, and I don't know from firsthand experience, but from everybody that I know that's worked there, it's been this super competitive, toxic, political, backstabby sort of a thing that you become like those show business cliches if you fall into it.
00:27:41.000 And to be honest with you, Joe, when I would see...
00:27:44.000 Each week, you'd see a new celebrity, like you do.
00:27:50.000 You see people come in and out of here.
00:27:52.000 So you start...
00:27:53.000 I'm sure there's things that you see and you go, how does the world have no clue that this person's like that?
00:28:01.000 Or maybe you don't, but I would see so many come in and I'd go...
00:28:08.000 How does no one know...
00:28:10.000 No, that guy's a cunt.
00:28:11.000 Yes.
00:28:12.000 And how does no one know this one's a militant gay?
00:28:20.000 Which, if that's what you are, fine.
00:28:22.000 But they hide it.
00:28:23.000 But they hide it.
00:28:24.000 It's weird.
00:28:25.000 And how does this one get away with being a drug addict?
00:28:29.000 And how does this one get away with...
00:28:34.000 Having very suspect, clearly, hookers come in of the male kind.
00:28:43.000 I remember this one particular, and I walked in, and I told Dee, I don't know if this person was...
00:28:51.000 Maybe they were 18. I don't know.
00:28:54.000 Oh, no.
00:28:55.000 And I remember them coming in like, is so and so here?
00:28:58.000 And I looked down and went, yeah, there are dressing rooms over there.
00:29:05.000 I was like, oh, wow.
00:29:07.000 And you could tell they were prostitutes?
00:29:08.000 Yeah.
00:29:10.000 They weren't coming to talk politics.
00:29:12.000 How do you know?
00:29:13.000 I don't know.
00:29:14.000 Maybe they're just really good at politics, but also very...
00:29:16.000 Maybe they were therapists.
00:29:18.000 Yes.
00:29:19.000 They could have been therapists.
00:29:20.000 Maybe they were foot massagers.
00:29:21.000 You know what?
00:29:22.000 They could have been a foot massagist, and they could have been teaching them how to make certain crochets or paper airplanes.
00:29:31.000 I don't know.
00:29:31.000 That's got to be the saddest one when you wish that you could just be yourself, but you can't.
00:29:36.000 I feel terrible for gay guys in show business that are still trapped, and I have a few friends that are great guys, but they just feel like if they come out that people won't look at them the same way.
00:29:50.000 I'm like, man, they'll love you more.
00:29:51.000 I agree.
00:29:52.000 Dom Herrera had the best line.
00:29:53.000 And he goes, I wish I was in the closet.
00:29:55.000 That's how little I give a fuck.
00:29:57.000 He goes, I would love to come out.
00:29:58.000 He goes, if I was gay, I'd be so happy to come out of the closet.
00:30:02.000 I don't give a fuck.
00:30:04.000 You know who I'd always tried was Meany.
00:30:10.000 Kevin Meany, he made me laugh so hard.
00:30:16.000 I got stoned with Kevin.
00:30:18.000 It was one of the hardest I ever laughed in my life.
00:30:20.000 So this was before he came out?
00:30:22.000 Before he came out.
00:30:23.000 Did you know he was gay?
00:30:25.000 Not...
00:30:26.000 He didn't admit...
00:30:27.000 I knew.
00:30:28.000 You knew something was going on.
00:30:29.000 Yeah, because when he'd come on my radio show...
00:30:31.000 This is what they...
00:30:32.000 What a lot of gay people...
00:30:34.000 Or if you're into drugs...
00:30:36.000 Like, I'll sit here and I'm like, you know...
00:30:37.000 It'd be great if I was high right now.
00:30:39.000 And that's my cue...
00:30:41.000 I'm putting it out there for someone to go, oh, do you want to get hot?
00:30:44.000 Oh, no!
00:30:47.000 You know, when it comes to penis...
00:30:49.000 Oh, are you...
00:30:51.000 No, I'm just...
00:30:52.000 I just threw the joke out there.
00:30:56.000 And so he would...
00:30:57.000 He, along with two other people I knew, would always put certain references out.
00:31:03.000 I would see this other person.
00:31:05.000 This person would...
00:31:06.000 I remember spending time with them.
00:31:09.000 We had a condo, and they came out, and they had their donkey hanging out.
00:31:13.000 And I went, dude, what are you doing?
00:31:17.000 And he's like, is this an intimate?
00:31:19.000 I went, no!
00:31:20.000 Intimidating?
00:31:21.000 I went, I've never hung out with another male friend that walks around holding his donkey showing it to another male.
00:31:27.000 It's weird, dude.
00:31:29.000 Do girls do that?
00:31:30.000 I don't know.
00:31:32.000 I don't think they do.
00:31:34.000 No!
00:31:35.000 Your pussy's hanging out?
00:31:37.000 There's a lot of other issues.
00:31:38.000 There's issues!
00:31:39.000 Something's going on there.
00:31:40.000 Something's happening.
00:31:41.000 You need a friend.
00:31:42.000 Yeah.
00:31:43.000 You need a friend.
00:31:44.000 So, Kevin would...
00:31:47.000 He's talking about show tunes, and he's talking about- He's wearing a bow tie.
00:31:51.000 He's wearing a bow tie, enough said.
00:31:56.000 And I'm like, I love you, man.
00:31:59.000 And I said, is there something you want to say?
00:32:01.000 Because I think the world is okay with it.
00:32:03.000 He's like, what do you mean?
00:32:06.000 Kev.
00:32:06.000 You can't get a guy to say that.
00:32:07.000 No, not at Ray.
00:32:08.000 But that's two.
00:32:09.000 I try to get things to mind.
00:32:10.000 When I was, I think I was 18 or 19, I went to see Kevin Meaney at Catch a Rising Star in Cambridge, Massachusetts, when he was on Top of the World.
00:32:22.000 I don't know if it was a 21 club.
00:32:26.000 I don't know if I was 21 yet.
00:32:27.000 I don't think I was, because it was my friend from high school, Diane DeRosa.
00:32:32.000 And we went there and he was so funny.
00:32:38.000 I couldn't calculate it in my brain.
00:32:41.000 I didn't understand how he was so funny because, you know, it was like, we're big pants people!
00:32:46.000 We wear big pants!
00:32:48.000 He had that whole big pants bit.
00:32:50.000 My God, dude, it was like I couldn't breathe.
00:32:52.000 No one could breathe.
00:32:54.000 He destroyed in a way that it's hard to imagine someone killing that hard.
00:33:01.000 And it was all like he was so comfortable and loose.
00:33:06.000 He was on fire back then.
00:33:08.000 Yeah, he was.
00:33:09.000 This was before I did stand-up.
00:33:10.000 I was just going to see stand-up then and watching it.
00:33:14.000 And I remember thinking, God, I don't even know what that guy did.
00:33:17.000 It was some kind of wizardry.
00:33:19.000 The first guy that made me laugh like that in person hard was Richard Jenney.
00:33:26.000 Oh, yeah.
00:33:26.000 And this guy would talk about a bottle of water and hit it.
00:33:30.000 And every time I think he's done, he'd come out with it.
00:33:33.000 He'd just keep going.
00:33:35.000 He was so good in the 80s, people don't know.
00:33:38.000 He was a monster.
00:33:39.000 A monster.
00:33:40.000 A monster.
00:33:40.000 A monster.
00:33:41.000 I worked at Eastside Comedy Club.
00:33:44.000 Yeah.
00:33:44.000 They told me that he did four different hours.
00:33:47.000 Never repeated a joke.
00:33:48.000 Two shows Friday, two shows Saturday.
00:33:50.000 And every comic was sitting around afterwards like they should quit.
00:33:52.000 They were like, fuck, I should just quit.
00:33:55.000 I never, ever.
00:33:57.000 And you know what?
00:33:58.000 Right before he took himself out, I learned...
00:34:04.000 He taught me a lesson.
00:34:07.000 Because even when I had my radio show...
00:34:09.000 I'm still chasing vanity a little bit and ego, whatever.
00:34:15.000 And he's on my radio show and he's going...
00:34:18.000 He's asking me about whatever and I went...
00:34:21.000 I said, you know, I'm looking up to you and this and that.
00:34:25.000 And I go, but still, you know, this is cool, but I want X, Y, and Z. And he just looked at me with this dead stare and he goes...
00:34:32.000 A guy with his own radio show.
00:34:35.000 And he still wants more.
00:34:37.000 Yeah.
00:34:39.000 He wasn't kidding.
00:34:40.000 No, he wasn't kidding.
00:34:41.000 And the way he said it, I was like, oh, wow.
00:34:44.000 It went right through me.
00:34:46.000 And then, you know, it was a couple months later.
00:34:48.000 I might have helped him.
00:34:50.000 I might have been his last little glimmer of hope.
00:34:54.000 I totally blew that one.
00:34:57.000 I ran into him a short while before he killed himself on a plane, on a flight, just randomly.
00:35:03.000 He was sitting right in front of me.
00:35:04.000 I'm pretty sure we were coming from Austin, too.
00:35:07.000 I think he was doing a corporate gig, and I think I was doing Cab City.
00:35:11.000 And I'm pretty sure it was Austin.
00:35:14.000 And I remember sitting there talking, like, hey Rich, what's up?
00:35:17.000 How you doing?
00:35:18.000 I was in town doing a corporate gig, and he always looked like a little out of place.
00:35:23.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:24.000 Always like you felt like you shouldn't be there, a little, you know?
00:35:28.000 Yeah.
00:35:28.000 So, I got a question for you.
00:35:31.000 So, when you do your shows...
00:35:33.000 Stand-up shows?
00:35:34.000 Yeah.
00:35:34.000 I've seen you doing them with Chappelle, right?
00:35:37.000 Do you touch any political stuff whatsoever?
00:35:44.000 Not necessarily.
00:35:46.000 I don't think politics are very funny.
00:35:48.000 Me either.
00:35:49.000 And I think the division that we have in this country is very disturbing.
00:35:51.000 And I think there's a weird, almost like a mental contagion that's going on through this country of division, of left versus right, where people are choosing sides and people are...
00:36:01.000 You know, either everyone's a communist or everyone's a racist.
00:36:04.000 It's like there's these absolutes that people are trying to describe people in these ways and it's very disturbing to me because I don't think I've ever been a part of...
00:36:14.000 For sure, I've never seen society this divided.
00:36:18.000 And where do you think that comes from, honestly?
00:36:20.000 Social media.
00:36:21.000 It's a big part of it.
00:36:22.000 It's a big part of it.
00:36:24.000 It's a big part of looking for like-minded groups and finding them and also being afraid to deviate from any lines that have been established.
00:36:33.000 Like, if you don't agree with this, you're a that.
00:36:36.000 If you don't agree with that, you're a this.
00:36:38.000 And there's these people getting these echo chambers.
00:36:42.000 And then there's these algorithms that unfortunately feed into natural human patterns of behavior, which is to gravitate towards things that infuriate you.
00:36:51.000 So whether it's Facebook, did you ever see The Social Dilemma?
00:36:55.000 No, I heard about it.
00:36:56.000 It's great.
00:36:56.000 You should watch it.
00:36:57.000 I heard about it.
00:36:58.000 It's so disturbing because they're essentially setting this up, and it reinforced how I felt and explained things even better to me.
00:37:05.000 And in that documentary, what they're essentially saying is that if this keeps going, we're on the verge of civil war, that these social media algorithms, whether it's for Instagram or Twitter, and the way these things affect the human mind And how these people are profiting off of this stuff in a massive,
00:37:24.000 massive way, that they're leaning us closer and closer towards the ultimate division, like literally a civil war.
00:37:32.000 And I feel that way.
00:37:33.000 I really do feel that way.
00:37:34.000 And what about regular media, though?
00:37:36.000 Do you think they're also part of, if not sometimes more, the culprit?
00:37:43.000 The problem with regular media is they're so often full of shit, yet they are trusted by way too many people.
00:37:51.000 And I think there's less trust now than ever before.
00:37:54.000 You know, did you see the shit that the Washington Post had to just retract?
00:37:58.000 That they had attributed a bunch of quotes to Trump After the election with Georgia that turned out to be false, like he never said them.
00:38:08.000 And one of them was like, find the fraud.
00:38:11.000 And he told the person they would be a national hero.
00:38:13.000 Well, then they got the audio recording.
00:38:15.000 And by the way, just to be clear, he did say a lot of things that he should not have said.
00:38:21.000 There was a lot of shit that he said that is egregious.
00:38:24.000 But this is one particular one that they attributed to him that was not true.
00:38:28.000 He never said it.
00:38:29.000 They got the audio recording of the actual phone call.
00:38:33.000 And basically what he said is, you're doing the most important job in the world, counting these ballots.
00:38:39.000 He did not say, find the fraud.
00:38:41.000 He didn't say these things that they were attributing to him.
00:38:44.000 And so for months, since December, they've been saying this, that he said these things.
00:38:50.000 And here we are in March, and they finally have to retract it.
00:38:53.000 When the audio recordings come out.
00:38:55.000 But it means that someone who was an anti-Trump person, who was like an unnamed source, gave them these quotes and then they printed them.
00:39:04.000 This is our trusted media.
00:39:06.000 That's a real problem.
00:39:07.000 It's a real problem.
00:39:10.000 And people, this is the greatest time in human history...
00:39:15.000 Where there's absolutely zero thinking.
00:39:18.000 When I say zero thinking and or, you're put in fear of thinking.
00:39:24.000 I'll give you a little example.
00:39:25.000 I had...
00:39:28.000 I came in, I had to have a COVID test before I walked in here, right?
00:39:31.000 So I was talking to your nurse, and I said, I had it.
00:39:35.000 I had it in December, and I didn't tell anyone, because I put it on social media, and I put it everywhere, because I didn't want people like, oh, we're going to cancel shows, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:39:45.000 It's just the hysteria that goes along.
00:39:47.000 How bad was it?
00:39:48.000 It was like a very mild sinus infection.
00:39:50.000 It's what Jamie had, basically.
00:39:52.000 It started in my nose, and then I had a little like...
00:39:58.000 I had one of those.
00:39:59.000 But I immediately, from the past, anytime I get sick, I'm traveling, so I know I've been sick on the road.
00:40:08.000 I immediately put a nose spray, constant cleaning, and I have an inhaler, like a steroid...
00:40:15.000 To get my lungs going.
00:40:17.000 So I started that.
00:40:18.000 The next day, body felt like I was getting something, which I've had in the past.
00:40:25.000 I don't get the chills.
00:40:27.000 My skin gets really sensitive.
00:40:29.000 And then after that, a little tired, but I can breathe.
00:40:36.000 But clearly, I had a sinus infection.
00:40:40.000 That's the best way to describe it.
00:40:42.000 Now, here's the thing.
00:40:44.000 And I gave it to my wife and my youngest daughter.
00:40:48.000 And my other two daughters were like, we're out of here.
00:40:51.000 We're getting tested.
00:40:52.000 They both negative.
00:40:53.000 Shroom!
00:40:53.000 They left the house.
00:40:54.000 We're out of here!
00:40:55.000 And they got bubbles around their head and wearing their space outfits.
00:40:59.000 So they're gone.
00:41:00.000 My youngest one comes home from school and she has to take a test and they say, you're positive.
00:41:06.000 And she was.
00:41:07.000 She clearly got sick.
00:41:09.000 My wife's sick.
00:41:10.000 I'm sick now.
00:41:12.000 None of us I have an infectious disease doctor in New Jersey.
00:41:19.000 His specialty is infectious disease.
00:41:23.000 I said, Doc, my daughter is positive.
00:41:26.000 I clearly gave it to her.
00:41:27.000 He goes, you need to get tested before I see you.
00:41:30.000 I said, okay, well, it's a two, three-day wait.
00:41:33.000 In the meantime, do you have anything?
00:41:36.000 He goes, take vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc.
00:41:40.000 He goes, do you have a high fever?
00:41:41.000 I went, no.
00:41:42.000 He goes, do you have trouble breathing?
00:41:45.000 I went, no.
00:41:46.000 He goes, then don't worry about it.
00:41:49.000 So part of me started getting infuriated.
00:41:52.000 I said, so you're telling me the world is shutting down and you're telling me to take vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc?
00:41:59.000 He goes, I need you to get the test.
00:42:02.000 Okay, I'll get the test.
00:42:05.000 I'm a little aggravated.
00:42:06.000 I just want something to get rid of this.
00:42:08.000 Right.
00:42:08.000 Okay, that's all I want.
00:42:09.000 Right.
00:42:10.000 So now it's going on the second week.
00:42:13.000 And this thing's annoying because I'm taking 2,000 D's and 3,000 C's and zinc and A and whatever he's telling me to do.
00:42:24.000 My daughter is getting better.
00:42:27.000 My wife still can't.
00:42:28.000 D can't smell or taste.
00:42:32.000 And she's got stage 4 cancer.
00:42:34.000 So she's like super high.
00:42:36.000 She's doing great and all that.
00:42:37.000 But she's doing great.
00:42:38.000 She's on a trial.
00:42:39.000 She's crushing it.
00:42:41.000 So if anything, she's the most danger because of her immune system.
00:42:46.000 Week 2. I get a test.
00:42:50.000 The same test I just took here, which is a very reliable test.
00:42:57.000 And I told my doctor, hey man, it's official.
00:42:59.000 I tested positive.
00:43:00.000 Which test did you take?
00:43:02.000 I said, I took the rapid because I can't...
00:43:04.000 I don't accept that one.
00:43:06.000 You don't accept that?
00:43:09.000 Infectious disease doctor, you don't accept...
00:43:14.000 That test.
00:43:15.000 What did he want?
00:43:16.000 The PCR test?
00:43:17.000 He wanted, yeah, whatever.
00:43:18.000 He's got to go to a lab.
00:43:19.000 Now we're going on day 12. Are you still telling me to take vitamins and stuff?
00:43:26.000 So finally, I said, I'm not doing that test because then I got to go in the state and the system.
00:43:32.000 And they called looking for my daughter.
00:43:35.000 Can we speak to your daughter?
00:43:37.000 No, you may not.
00:43:38.000 Well, is she doing the appropriate things?
00:43:41.000 I have it as her father.
00:43:43.000 Well, what is she doing?
00:43:45.000 Go fuck yourself.
00:43:49.000 That's what she's doing.
00:43:51.000 You don't call my house.
00:43:53.000 Government, you just overstepped your boundaries.
00:43:56.000 You're just here to protect me, not to come knocking on my door to ask me what I'm doing and how I'm treating my 16 year old.
00:44:05.000 It's a very frightening place to be.
00:44:08.000 Now with that said, I then ask, hey man, what can we do?
00:44:14.000 He goes, I need that other test.
00:44:15.000 And I went, I'm not getting the other test.
00:44:16.000 So I called a friend, said, I'll get you something by tomorrow.
00:44:23.000 I got stuff by the next day, and in two days that stuff was clear.
00:44:29.000 So I started asking her, Why don't people...
00:44:35.000 And I just left the town of Chester, New Jersey, and there's about 15 of us, a group, that formed this community during the whole COVID. And this one woman just got it.
00:44:49.000 And she got hospitalized.
00:44:51.000 And I went, whoa, what happened?
00:44:53.000 And she said, I waited 12 days, and then I had a problem.
00:44:58.000 I started freaking out breathing.
00:45:00.000 Went to the hospital, they gave me steroids and antibiotics, and it cleared right up.
00:45:05.000 So my question is, why do you have to test positive to wait to get antibiotics or steroids if neither one of them hurt you or kill you?
00:45:18.000 Wow, you're still waiting to see what this does.
00:45:22.000 And she didn't have an answer.
00:45:24.000 And she's like, that's a great question.
00:45:26.000 I go, it's a simple, it's just a question.
00:45:29.000 So if I'm a doctor, and Joe Rogan comes to me and says, hey, man, my daughter's positive, I have sinus, are you having trouble?
00:45:36.000 No, well, I can give you this, because I know it's not going to kill you, and I know it's going to be, I'm going to give you antibiotics, and hopefully in two, three days it will clear up.
00:45:46.000 And if it gets worse, then we'll take care of it then, because clearly this is not going to make you worse.
00:45:52.000 So why isn't that being done?
00:45:55.000 And then my other question was, if that doctor, an infectious disease doctor, doesn't allow that test, how many people take that test and it counts as a number, but yet it doesn't count?
00:46:11.000 So what is really going on, is my question.
00:46:15.000 There's a lot of confusion, a massive amount of people.
00:46:17.000 There's a disease that kills some folks.
00:46:20.000 And there's a disease that we, in the beginning stages of this pandemic, thought was going to be far more severe than it turned out to be.
00:46:29.000 And they never adjusted.
00:46:30.000 That's the problem.
00:46:31.000 The problem is, it's still not good.
00:46:34.000 You know, you don't want to catch COVID. But the vast majority of people who get it will be fine.
00:46:39.000 78% of the people that are hospitalized are obese.
00:46:43.000 The obese people have a real hard time with it.
00:46:46.000 There's 6% of the people who died from COVID only had COVID. Can you repeat that number?
00:46:53.000 Six percent.
00:46:54.000 One more time.
00:46:55.000 Six percent of the people who died from COVID only had COVID. The other 94 percent had an average of 2.6 comorbidities.
00:47:04.000 So almost three.
00:47:06.000 More than two and a half comorbidities, meaning like obesity.
00:47:11.000 There's a bunch of different things that people have.
00:47:14.000 Diabetes is a big one.
00:47:18.000 Alzheimer's.
00:47:18.000 There's a lot of comorbidities that are very dangerous if you get COVID. I'll tell you another one.
00:47:25.000 So another one of our friends, his name is Rob.
00:47:28.000 He's a mess, bro.
00:47:30.000 Gout three times a year.
00:47:31.000 He's a mess.
00:47:31.000 He's totally heavy dude, blah, blah, blah.
00:47:33.000 Yeah.
00:47:35.000 July, he says, don't come near me.
00:47:38.000 I have a sinus infection.
00:47:40.000 And we all went, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:47:43.000 Rob's off limits.
00:47:45.000 Whoop, whoop.
00:47:45.000 Rob's dying.
00:47:46.000 We're laughing.
00:47:47.000 Rob died.
00:47:48.000 He's got it.
00:47:48.000 He's done.
00:47:49.000 We said, you should really go check that out, Rob.
00:47:53.000 We don't hear from Rob.
00:47:55.000 Next thing, me and my wife went to Maine, went on a mountain.
00:48:01.000 We were on a lake.
00:48:03.000 I felt like if I die, that is where heaven's going to be, is that trip with my wife.
00:48:08.000 I come back.
00:48:11.000 Do you hear what's going on, Rob?
00:48:12.000 He's in the hospital.
00:48:13.000 What?
00:48:14.000 He's on the ventilator one.
00:48:18.000 What?
00:48:19.000 Now, he was a crazy Trump guy.
00:48:21.000 He was like, Trump, Trump.
00:48:22.000 He was full-blown.
00:48:24.000 I would go there.
00:48:25.000 I'm like, oh my God, these guys are talking politics again.
00:48:28.000 Please get off here.
00:48:31.000 Every morning, it's like, ah, ah, ah, the liberals, the Democrats, ah, ah, ah, ah, nonstop.
00:48:36.000 Like, oh, my God, I just want to have a muffin and relax.
00:48:41.000 So, with that, and, dude, I got caught up, too.
00:48:45.000 I would be a liar if I said I wasn't caught up in some stuff for a while.
00:48:49.000 I was on the internet like, dude, my dude JFK's coming back!
00:48:54.000 I was, of course, it makes all sense in the world.
00:48:57.000 I was, I was in, right?
00:49:00.000 And, But this guy was like, if I ever get, I'm taking hydrochloroquine.
00:49:06.000 All right?
00:49:07.000 So now, and this is all still going, by the way, he gets admitted to the hospital.
00:49:14.000 And here comes my next question.
00:49:16.000 And there is an ending to this story.
00:49:19.000 He gets admitted.
00:49:21.000 They say he's got brain damage from COVID. It's brain damage.
00:49:26.000 Well, this is the information we're getting.
00:49:28.000 Like, what?
00:49:29.000 What do you mean?
00:49:30.000 Brain damage?
00:49:31.000 Yeah, he's not going to be able to walk.
00:49:33.000 What?
00:49:34.000 He has brain damage.
00:49:36.000 Then it turned out he had strokes.
00:49:37.000 The COVID caused strokes.
00:49:40.000 Then it turned out, no.
00:49:43.000 He asked for a specific drug.
00:49:46.000 They said, we can't give it to you in the state of Jersey.
00:49:50.000 And we're going to have to do testing before we can do stuff.
00:49:54.000 Next thing you know...
00:49:56.000 The guy's on high blood pressure, pills, and all that.
00:49:59.000 They didn't give him his meds.
00:50:00.000 He's stroked out.
00:50:02.000 Cut to...
00:50:03.000 He's brain dead.
00:50:05.000 His wife can't...
00:50:07.000 His wife and 11-year-old, 13-year-old have to say goodbye to him before they pull the plug.
00:50:13.000 They're not allowed to be with him.
00:50:16.000 They have to FaceTime.
00:50:18.000 So here's a question for you.
00:50:19.000 No, this is going somewhere, bro, right?
00:50:24.000 Thank God...
00:50:25.000 One of our crew said, please send this person there just one last look.
00:50:33.000 The specialist shows up, said, he's not brain dead.
00:50:37.000 He's dehydrated.
00:50:39.000 Who's been taking care of this patient?
00:50:42.000 And who said he was COVID? I want everything.
00:50:46.000 Gets everything, said, I need the wife and children in here.
00:50:51.000 Oh, well, it's against our...
00:50:53.000 What's keeping you safe?
00:50:56.000 What's keeping you safe?
00:50:58.000 Bring his family in here.
00:51:00.000 His family talks to him.
00:51:02.000 His heart rate starts going up.
00:51:05.000 In a week, he opens his eyes and communicates for the first time.
00:51:10.000 And six weeks later, he now stands up for the first time.
00:51:15.000 It was October.
00:51:18.000 He finally got out.
00:51:21.000 And he's still taking physical rehab.
00:51:23.000 I got pictures of him, videos of him and all that jazz.
00:51:26.000 But he's recovering.
00:51:28.000 So the point of my story is two things.
00:51:30.000 They were ready to let him die.
00:51:31.000 They were willing.
00:51:32.000 They already said he's dead and you can't visit him.
00:51:36.000 Jesus Christ.
00:51:36.000 What kind of fucking hospital is this?
00:51:39.000 It's in New Jersey.
00:51:41.000 That's crazy.
00:51:42.000 But my question is this.
00:51:43.000 When it comes to not being able to see elderly in elderly homes, or you've got to quarantine and all that, what keeps the workers safe?
00:51:50.000 What keeps the, quote, heroes safe?
00:51:54.000 And why can't you allow someone with a human touch Because when you're at your weakest moment in time, you need a human.
00:52:05.000 You need pure love.
00:52:07.000 You need that child.
00:52:08.000 You need your mother to come visit you.
00:52:12.000 They're the ones, even if you're in your house, and the fact that they are stopping that is pure evil in my mind.
00:52:20.000 It has nothing to do with safety.
00:52:23.000 And if it is safety, then stupidity.
00:52:27.000 And at the end of the day, it's evil.
00:52:29.000 There is no protocol.
00:52:30.000 It's stupidity, in my opinion.
00:52:31.000 I understand what you're saying.
00:52:32.000 I think in the general sense, they're trying to protect people from getting infected.
00:52:36.000 Well, what keeps the people that works there infected?
00:52:38.000 Nothing.
00:52:39.000 Well, then what keeps...
00:52:40.000 Well, there you go.
00:52:40.000 You just answered it.
00:52:41.000 I mean, they wear the tightest masks that you can, but there's other things you can do.
00:52:44.000 Then give it to the child and the mom and dad.
00:52:45.000 Exactly.
00:52:46.000 No, I'm with you.
00:52:47.000 I'm with you 100%.
00:52:48.000 If your kid was dying, Joe...
00:52:50.000 Yeah.
00:52:51.000 You're going to allow them to keep you from seeing them?
00:52:52.000 No.
00:52:53.000 No.
00:52:53.000 I'm going to do my best.
00:52:55.000 Right?
00:52:55.000 You're going to smash that door down, bro.
00:52:57.000 I'll tell you that right now.
00:52:58.000 You're going to have to arrest me.
00:53:00.000 Yeah.
00:53:00.000 You're going to have to arrest me.
00:53:02.000 So...
00:53:03.000 I feel the same way.
00:53:04.000 I know what you're saying.
00:53:05.000 You've got to question everything.
00:53:07.000 But you're right about the touch, about love and about having hope and having someone come visit you.
00:53:13.000 Despair is terrible for the immune system.
00:53:16.000 All that stuff is...
00:53:17.000 Do you know what a nocebo is?
00:53:18.000 You know what that means?
00:53:19.000 No.
00:53:20.000 It's the opposite of placebo.
00:53:21.000 A placebo effect is they give you a sugar pill and it makes you think that you're doing well.
00:53:26.000 And you're like, oh.
00:53:27.000 And then all of a sudden your symptoms improve and you actually get better.
00:53:29.000 Yeah.
00:53:29.000 Because your body...
00:53:31.000 Is on a positive trip, right?
00:53:34.000 Your body's like, oh, Jim got the medicine.
00:53:37.000 We're healing up.
00:53:39.000 And it literally has an actual physical measurable effect, and it's called the placebo effect.
00:53:44.000 Well, there's also something that they believe is more powerful than the placebo effect, and that's the nocebo effect.
00:53:50.000 The nocebo effect is telling someone that they have a disease, telling someone that there's an incurable disease or that they're sick, And then they fucking panic.
00:54:01.000 Here's a perfect example.
00:54:03.000 In 2007, there was a guy that was a part of a trial that they were doing a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial on antidepressants.
00:54:13.000 So they're trying to find the efficacy of antidepressants, and they give this guy...
00:54:18.000 These pills, and he shows up at the hospital.
00:54:21.000 He's got an empty bottle of pills, and he goes, help me, help me.
00:54:24.000 I took all the pills.
00:54:25.000 I took all the pills.
00:54:26.000 And this guy collapses, all right?
00:54:28.000 They bring him into the emergency room.
00:54:30.000 His fucking blood pressure is dangerously low.
00:54:34.000 His heart rate is jacked up.
00:54:36.000 He's pale.
00:54:37.000 He's sick.
00:54:38.000 They're like, oh, no.
00:54:39.000 And so they find the guy.
00:54:41.000 The guy has a pill bottle they brought in with him.
00:54:44.000 They find the guy's physician that's a part of the clinical trial.
00:54:47.000 They bring the physician in.
00:54:49.000 The physician tells him, you got the placebo.
00:54:52.000 There's no medication here.
00:54:54.000 These are bullshit pills.
00:54:56.000 There's nothing in them.
00:54:58.000 All of a sudden, the guy gets better.
00:55:00.000 Like that.
00:55:01.000 His heart rate balances.
00:55:03.000 His blood pressure balances.
00:55:05.000 15 minutes later, he's fine.
00:55:07.000 The power of your mind.
00:55:09.000 He was convinced that he was fucked.
00:55:11.000 If you have someone in a hospital bed and you're telling them they're going to die...
00:55:15.000 And you're not gonna see your family.
00:55:17.000 And the amount of stress and the pain, your symptoms will crash.
00:55:22.000 Everything will get more fucked up.
00:55:24.000 Your body will go into a total state of shock.
00:55:27.000 There's been people that have died because they were incorrectly diagnosed with cancer.
00:55:34.000 And they went into this shock where they can't believe that they're not going to...
00:55:39.000 And then their immune system crashes, their body crashes, and then they've done autopsies and they found out that it was benign.
00:55:46.000 And this is what drives me nuts, where nobody questions.
00:55:49.000 You just go, that's what they said.
00:55:52.000 That's what they said, so that's what we're doing.
00:55:54.000 That's what voodoo is.
00:55:56.000 People think that voodoo is bullshit.
00:55:59.000 What voodoo is, is you tell someone, if you're a charismatic person, you have white paint on your face and fucking feathers and skulls on sticks, and you tell them, I put a curse on you.
00:56:11.000 And if you believe that shit, you'll be in a full terror.
00:56:15.000 Yes!
00:56:15.000 You'll be in a full terror, and then your life will fall apart.
00:56:19.000 My hand to God, when I start my show, I say, and I've been saying, this is the greatest voodoo trick I've seen in humanity.
00:56:29.000 In my entire life.
00:56:30.000 Because that's what it is.
00:56:32.000 It's the greatest voodoo trick in history.
00:56:36.000 It's mind-boggling.
00:56:38.000 Now I'm able to sit and watch it and dodge from it, but at the same time, I'm baffled how many people just...
00:56:52.000 Don't question anything.
00:56:55.000 It's mind-boggling.
00:56:56.000 Now, back to what you say before.
00:56:58.000 This is a cool thing.
00:57:00.000 So I did a Metallica tour, right?
00:57:03.000 Now, on this tour, I start to get to know people from around the world that go to every single Metallica show.
00:57:13.000 That's so wild.
00:57:14.000 It's so wild, and it's so cool.
00:57:16.000 They call themselves the Metallica family, which I thought was amazing.
00:57:21.000 Which I think is also amazing about you.
00:57:23.000 You have followers around the world.
00:57:26.000 I think that's amazing.
00:57:27.000 It's mind-boggling.
00:57:29.000 You could probably tour Korea in countries you never thought you can tour in because of who you are and who listens to you.
00:57:39.000 So with this Metallica thing, there's this one couple, Sarah and Pete.
00:57:45.000 And Pete, the story was so...
00:57:49.000 It's amazing.
00:57:50.000 It's amazing.
00:57:51.000 Pete's a vet, got his ass kicked and rack and blah, blah, blah.
00:57:58.000 He came back, got in a motorcycle accident, destroyed, doesn't want to live anymore.
00:58:04.000 He's stuck to a hospital bed, blah, blah, blah.
00:58:07.000 She's depressed because he doesn't want to live anymore.
00:58:13.000 He hears Metallica's touring and he's got brain damaged.
00:58:21.000 Irreversible brain damage.
00:58:23.000 It's completely irreversible.
00:58:25.000 And so he has to get checked every six weeks and they keep saying, yeah, no, nothing's going down.
00:58:33.000 Okay, so forever this part of the brain is going to be dead.
00:58:37.000 He knows Metallica's coming.
00:58:40.000 And she said she came home, and for the first time, he was trying to get up.
00:58:45.000 And she said, what do you want?
00:58:46.000 She's like, I want to see Metallica.
00:58:48.000 And she said, okay, well, I'll bring you to Metallica.
00:58:52.000 She goes to Metallica, brings him in the wheelchair, he's got all his stuff, and then she sees while she's waiting on tickets, all these other Metallica fans, and, you know, they start like, oh, man, dude, you know, they're taking care, and they become like a little, hey, next, then they, you know, and she saw how happy he was.
00:59:11.000 And how much life was brought to him just from seeing Metallica.
00:59:17.000 Now with that, now she goes, maybe I should follow them.
00:59:23.000 So she goes and buys come more tickets and he's got life.
00:59:28.000 Now they follow them every time they tour.
00:59:31.000 And I saw them, and then they come to see me.
00:59:34.000 And when I first met him, he was very subdued.
00:59:38.000 He doesn't smile a whole lot.
00:59:40.000 He's like, you know, hi, hi.
00:59:42.000 She's got this big smile.
00:59:43.000 She's always bringing sunshine, great energy.
00:59:46.000 By the end of the tour, as soon as the tour ended, I wish I had my email.
00:59:52.000 I'm sure I could find the email.
00:59:54.000 She goes, oh my god, Jim, you're not going to believe what's going on.
00:59:58.000 I think we're going to the European tour.
01:00:00.000 We're sorry, the US tour.
01:00:02.000 We're not going to see you, but the European tour.
01:00:03.000 I said, why?
01:00:06.000 The doctors, for the first time ever, said his brain is starting to heal itself.
01:00:13.000 And they truly believe it's from going to the Metallica concerts.
01:00:19.000 Maybe it's not the music, it's the community, the life, the people around him that's inspiring him.
01:00:26.000 And they want to hook him up and start doing this as a test.
01:00:31.000 Like, perhaps this has the power of healing.
01:00:36.000 Dude, how sick is that?
01:00:39.000 That's pretty sick.
01:00:40.000 You know how when a song comes on, you get goosebumps?
01:00:43.000 Yeah!
01:00:44.000 That's a drug.
01:00:45.000 Of course it is!
01:00:46.000 It really is.
01:00:46.000 It's medicine.
01:00:47.000 There's something to it.
01:00:49.000 Like when a good song comes on, you're like, fuck yeah!
01:00:52.000 There's songs in it.
01:00:53.000 Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
01:01:00.000 I'm getting goosebumps right now.
01:01:03.000 Look at that.
01:01:04.000 Look at that.
01:01:05.000 Goosebumps.
01:01:05.000 Those are legit.
01:01:08.000 Absolutely.
01:01:09.000 Music does something to you physically.
01:01:11.000 Yes.
01:01:12.000 Yeah.
01:01:12.000 Absolutely.
01:01:13.000 And if this guy is all of a sudden around all these people, the music is doing something to him physically, and then he has a sense of community and all this fun and love and camaraderie, yeah, your fucking pistons start firing.
01:01:27.000 Bang, bang, bang.
01:01:28.000 Woo!
01:01:31.000 How did you like talking to James?
01:01:33.000 I loved it.
01:01:34.000 He's cool.
01:01:35.000 I loved it.
01:01:35.000 He's a really cool guy.
01:01:36.000 I mean, you think about a guy that has been through so much craziness.
01:01:41.000 I think of fame as redlining.
01:01:44.000 Like redlining your personality, redlining your stress levels, redlining your life.
01:01:50.000 And so for a guy that's been like, damn!
01:01:53.000 And then like, okay, I gotta get off this ride for a little bit.
01:01:56.000 And then you talk to him and he's just aware that he redlined his life.
01:02:01.000 And he apparently redlined his life again, right?
01:02:04.000 Started indulging again after that and had to stop again.
01:02:09.000 But to be a man that is that famous, that is that universally loved, to have that much pressure and attention and to live that crazy life, that arena rock life of a...
01:02:23.000 You know, 1% rock star.
01:02:26.000 Like, you get all the rock stars in the world.
01:02:28.000 Metallica is like the 1% of the rock stars.
01:02:32.000 Hands down.
01:02:32.000 If they said they're touring Mars...
01:02:35.000 They're going to Mars.
01:02:35.000 We're going to Mars.
01:02:36.000 Someone's going to Mars.
01:02:37.000 Yeah, people are going to Mars.
01:02:38.000 They could do a tour in the middle of the Sahara Desert, and people would make it out there with water.
01:02:41.000 Without a doubt.
01:02:42.000 100%.
01:02:43.000 So, if I can ask you, out of everyone that you've talked with, who...
01:02:53.000 Who would be your top?
01:02:56.000 I don't.
01:02:57.000 I don't have one.
01:02:58.000 I really don't.
01:02:59.000 I don't.
01:02:59.000 I guess you wouldn't even want to answer that, only because other people instantly go...
01:03:05.000 No, I mean, I would answer it.
01:03:08.000 I would answer it.
01:03:09.000 If people got upset, I would.
01:03:10.000 I don't have a top.
01:03:12.000 What would you learn from them?
01:03:13.000 Did you learn anyone?
01:03:14.000 Oh yeah, I learned from all of them, man.
01:03:16.000 I mean, I learned from you.
01:03:17.000 I learned from Neil deGrasse Tyson.
01:03:20.000 I learned from Elon Musk.
01:03:21.000 I learned from Lex Friedman.
01:03:23.000 I learned from all these fucking scientists and people that I've had on.
01:03:27.000 All these brilliant people.
01:03:28.000 I learned from Matt Taibbi.
01:03:29.000 I learned from...
01:03:30.000 There's so many people that I've learned from.
01:03:33.000 I've had a wild fucking education, man.
01:03:35.000 I've had an 11-year education doing this podcast.
01:03:38.000 11 years now?
01:03:39.000 Yeah, it's 11 years.
01:03:40.000 Holy crap.
01:03:41.000 Yeah.
01:03:42.000 That's some monstrosity.
01:03:44.000 Actually, yeah.
01:03:44.000 It's almost 12. It'll be 12 years in December.
01:03:48.000 I remember I only been in one UFC fight, and I don't think I need to see another.
01:03:56.000 And what I mean by that is, you were like, Jim, you gotta sit.
01:03:59.000 And I was leaving that night.
01:04:01.000 I was in Vegas and I was leaving that night on a red eye.
01:04:05.000 And I almost didn't get out.
01:04:07.000 And you're like, Jim, you gotta come tonight.
01:04:09.000 I just don't want you, dude.
01:04:11.000 Bro, you don't want to miss this one.
01:04:14.000 I'm like, alright, alright, I'll be there.
01:04:16.000 And it was McGregor versus Spanish name dude.
01:04:24.000 He wasn't supposed to be in a bill and then Nate Diaz?
01:04:27.000 Yeah.
01:04:28.000 Nate Diaz.
01:04:28.000 Yes.
01:04:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:29.000 And I still remember that.
01:04:33.000 It's so vivid in my mind.
01:04:35.000 There was an underscore, okay?
01:04:37.000 There was an undercard.
01:04:39.000 He looked like a guy like me against this toolbox.
01:04:45.000 And every time the kick would hit him.
01:04:50.000 I've seen on TV, but when you're there...
01:04:53.000 Where you're standing, you hear, like, it sounds like a bat hitting a leg.
01:04:59.000 And then after three kicks, I'm looking at his leg, and it looked like someone spray-painted a purple on the inside of his leg.
01:05:08.000 I went, oh my god, that's gotta be killing him.
01:05:14.000 How's this human being standing?
01:05:19.000 Smack!
01:05:20.000 Smack!
01:05:20.000 Smack!
01:05:20.000 And I don't even remember who won that.
01:05:22.000 All I remember is the McGregor fight.
01:05:26.000 And McGregor's in there.
01:05:28.000 And he's definitely showboat, and I loved everything about it.
01:05:33.000 And I'm sitting there in the front, and he comes in, and they start the first round, and I feel like Diaz had the best of him the first round.
01:05:43.000 I don't remember a lot of it, but I remember the second round starting, and McGregor said something to him like, is that the best you got?
01:05:53.000 Something like that.
01:05:55.000 I'm like, did he just say that to this guy?
01:05:57.000 He's trying to intimidate.
01:05:58.000 But then I remember he was getting his ass kicked.
01:06:03.000 Ass kicked.
01:06:04.000 And he was on the ground.
01:06:06.000 It was ugly.
01:06:06.000 The guy's on the ground.
01:06:08.000 And he's going for the final choke him out.
01:06:11.000 Right.
01:06:11.000 And his wife was right behind me.
01:06:15.000 And it was like a movie.
01:06:17.000 I kept looking.
01:06:17.000 I'm like, Greg, get out of here.
01:06:19.000 I'm looking.
01:06:21.000 This is supposed to be a horror show.
01:06:23.000 Oh my God!
01:06:24.000 I'm back here!
01:06:24.000 Come on!
01:06:25.000 She covered her eyes and went, oh my God, this is a horror show to watch your husband getting choked out and beaten his blade.
01:06:31.000 And all of a sudden, he gets out of it and he makes it to his feet.
01:06:39.000 And I think Three Quarters Arena was from Ireland.
01:06:43.000 They're like...
01:06:46.000 They were going apeshit!
01:06:49.000 And I remember, the hair on my back is standing watching this, and I remember Diaz's eyes.
01:06:57.000 I'll never forget his eyes.
01:06:58.000 He just, if his eyes could talk, they went, they said, oh no.
01:07:04.000 I'm done.
01:07:05.000 Diaz?
01:07:06.000 I think you got the wrong fight.
01:07:08.000 You got this fight so fucked up.
01:07:09.000 When Nate Diaz got on top of Conor McGregor, he fucking strangled him and Conor tapped out.
01:07:14.000 Nope.
01:07:15.000 Then it wasn't that fight.
01:07:16.000 Okay, it's a different fight.
01:07:17.000 It was a good five, six years ago.
01:07:19.000 Four years ago?
01:07:20.000 Yeah, it was Nate Diaz.
01:07:22.000 He's at the Chad Mendes fight.
01:07:23.000 Mendes!
01:07:24.000 Oh, Chad Mendes.
01:07:25.000 Mendes!
01:07:25.000 That's different.
01:07:26.000 Okay, that makes sense.
01:07:27.000 It was Mendes!
01:07:28.000 Yes.
01:07:29.000 So, Mendes' eyes...
01:07:32.000 I saw his eyes.
01:07:34.000 That's a different fight.
01:07:35.000 He went full-blown, oh God, I'm done.
01:07:38.000 I'm done.
01:07:39.000 Because McGregor, from the crowd and standing up, it was, oh no.
01:07:45.000 And five seconds later, he knocked him out.
01:07:48.000 Yeah.
01:07:48.000 It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen live.
01:07:52.000 That was a fight that Chad Mendes and his defense took late notice, and he wasn't even training.
01:07:56.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:07:57.000 He wasn't ready for it.
01:07:58.000 He gassed out a little bit.
01:07:59.000 Yeah, and he got knocked out.
01:08:01.000 But...
01:08:02.000 That was my only UFC fight I ever got.
01:08:04.000 That was a wild one to go to, man.
01:08:06.000 That was a wild one.
01:08:07.000 So now I'm trying to get out, and these hooligans, they're on top of the casino.
01:08:13.000 They're dancing on top of the casino.
01:08:16.000 There it is.
01:08:18.000 That's your video?
01:08:19.000 This is Jim's video?
01:08:21.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
01:08:22.000 Look at you.
01:08:22.000 Dude, I can't even find this video anymore.
01:08:24.000 I think I accidentally...
01:08:27.000 Jamie finds everything.
01:08:28.000 Bro, you gotta send this to me.
01:08:30.000 Look at that.
01:08:32.000 This...
01:08:32.000 Now.
01:08:34.000 Now I gotta catch a flight.
01:08:37.000 And I can't...
01:08:38.000 These Irish...
01:08:39.000 How are you gonna get out of there?
01:08:41.000 They were everywhere!
01:08:42.000 I couldn't get past them!
01:08:43.000 Look at you.
01:08:44.000 I was in full-blown panic.
01:08:47.000 Bro, that was one of the greatest...
01:08:48.000 What were you in town doing?
01:08:49.000 Do you remember?
01:08:50.000 I was doing a show.
01:08:51.000 Which gig are you doing?
01:08:52.000 The Mirage?
01:08:52.000 No!
01:08:53.000 I'm South Point Casino.
01:08:55.000 I play the locals.
01:08:57.000 I can't get in that Mirage, man.
01:08:59.000 You can't get in the Mirage?
01:09:00.000 I'm not a Mirage guy.
01:09:01.000 I don't have that kind of swagger.
01:09:03.000 I'll be the first to admit it.
01:09:04.000 You know, I'd love to say, well, I tell you, season's wanting me, but I can't have it.
01:09:09.000 In Mirage, I said, let me check my book.
01:09:12.000 I go to South Point Casino.
01:09:14.000 How is that place?
01:09:14.000 Is it good?
01:09:15.000 I love it.
01:09:16.000 The guy that runs the place is really cool.
01:09:19.000 Mike, I love playing there.
01:09:21.000 Vegas is a fun place to play.
01:09:23.000 It's weird now.
01:09:24.000 Have you been there recently?
01:09:25.000 No, but I don't gamble.
01:09:27.000 It's starting to come back.
01:09:27.000 I don't gamble either.
01:09:28.000 I don't gamble either.
01:09:29.000 It's starting to come back though.
01:09:30.000 It's like there's people out again.
01:09:32.000 I was just there for the fights last weekend.
01:09:34.000 Last weekend?
01:09:35.000 Weekend before?
01:09:36.000 Whatever it was.
01:09:36.000 And it was hopping again.
01:09:39.000 There was a large amount of people driving around and it seemed very different because it's been really desolate over the last year.
01:09:47.000 So the fights, no one's in the arena?
01:09:49.000 No one.
01:09:50.000 They do it at the Apex Center.
01:09:52.000 The UFC has their own Performance Institute and across the street from the Performance Institute, they have this thing called the Apex Center.
01:09:58.000 So it's a training facility on one side of it, but then inside is a small arena.
01:10:02.000 It's like a smaller cage, smaller octagon, and it could seat, if they're allowed to have a crowd, it could seat 1,000, 1,500 people maybe at the most.
01:10:11.000 Maybe not even 1,500.
01:10:13.000 But they do the shows there with no crowd.
01:10:16.000 It's wild.
01:10:18.000 The show...
01:10:19.000 You should see that.
01:10:20.000 I'd love to.
01:10:21.000 Yeah, I'd love to take you to one of those because they're not going to be around that much longer because...
01:10:25.000 I'll fly in for that.
01:10:25.000 They're starting to do...
01:10:27.000 There's one next weekend.
01:10:28.000 They're starting to do fights with crowds again.
01:10:32.000 I'm in Colorado.
01:10:33.000 In April 20-something or another?
01:10:36.000 What is it?
01:10:37.000 What's the one that...
01:10:38.000 That's a weekend, right?
01:10:39.000 Yeah.
01:10:41.000 Yeah, April 27th, they're doing the welterweight title.
01:10:46.000 They're going to do that one in Tampa?
01:10:49.000 Is that what it is?
01:10:50.000 Jacksonville.
01:10:51.000 In Jacksonville.
01:10:52.000 In Jacksonville with a crowd.
01:10:53.000 15,000 people.
01:10:54.000 Which is like, holy shit, you're going full 24th.
01:10:58.000 God, I love Florida.
01:10:59.000 I was in Florida.
01:11:00.000 Florida doesn't give a fuck.
01:11:01.000 I don't want to leave.
01:11:03.000 That was...
01:11:03.000 I felt like...
01:11:05.000 You talk about refugees?
01:11:07.000 Yeah.
01:11:07.000 They're coming from every angle, parachuting in.
01:11:11.000 Oh, yeah.
01:11:12.000 We made it!
01:11:13.000 Well, maybe it'll be good, because they'll inject some New York into Florida.
01:11:16.000 You know, more New York, like young New York, and give it some life.
01:11:20.000 Because there's a little...
01:11:22.000 It's a little death.
01:11:23.000 It's a little stupid.
01:11:25.000 Florida's got a little too much stupid.
01:11:27.000 Unfortunately.
01:11:27.000 It's a lot of sun.
01:11:28.000 Yeah.
01:11:29.000 No disrespect.
01:11:30.000 A lot of elderly.
01:11:31.000 There's a lot of, like, children of criminals.
01:11:34.000 I lived there.
01:11:35.000 Yeah, I know you did.
01:11:37.000 You started there, right?
01:11:38.000 You started stand-up there.
01:11:40.000 Technically, yes.
01:11:41.000 When I put my head down and put the ball in my hand, yeah.
01:11:44.000 I started in 1989 at Ron Bennington's comedy scene.
01:11:49.000 Coconuts.
01:11:51.000 We're good to go.
01:11:57.000 We're good to go.
01:12:12.000 Dan Whitney, before he was Larry the Cable Guy, would come through there.
01:12:17.000 Tom Rhodes would come through there.
01:12:21.000 So that is where Darryl Hammond, Bill Gardell, all those guys, that's kind of that area.
01:12:31.000 That's the hub.
01:12:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:12:32.000 And then I don't know what happened to it.
01:12:34.000 But Long Island, I started...
01:12:37.000 In and out, high school, but I wasn't consistent.
01:12:42.000 I remember the first time I did, I played Governors, my first gig, and I thought I was so good.
01:12:48.000 I was cocky.
01:12:49.000 I was so cocky.
01:12:51.000 Already thinking about the lion.
01:12:53.000 The lion.
01:12:54.000 Tiger.
01:12:55.000 Tiger.
01:12:55.000 Already thinking about the silk pants.
01:12:57.000 Oh, God, yes.
01:12:58.000 Oh, without a doubt.
01:12:59.000 White tiger.
01:13:00.000 White tiger.
01:13:01.000 Like Mike Tyson.
01:13:02.000 Yeah.
01:13:04.000 I got mad at Mike when I saw it.
01:13:05.000 I went, hey man, that's my gig.
01:13:07.000 I want Eddie Murphy, red leather pants, and that white tiger.
01:13:11.000 And that's success right there.
01:13:13.000 And I remember doing a pigeon bit, which I thought I was brilliant for coming up with.
01:13:20.000 I had this bug routine, which I thought I was brilliant.
01:13:23.000 And then I saw all these other people.
01:13:25.000 All these people steal from me.
01:13:27.000 It was, and I was just like, oh.
01:13:29.000 Well, you have generic premises.
01:13:31.000 That's the thing.
01:13:32.000 Yeah.
01:13:33.000 Yeah, premises that you think.
01:13:34.000 Yeah, you think you're like, hey, I came up with that.
01:13:38.000 There was one joke that everybody had in Boston.
01:13:43.000 In New Hampshire, they had a license plate.
01:13:46.000 The logo on the license plate, their saying was, live free or die.
01:13:50.000 Yeah.
01:13:51.000 And I'm like, those things are made by prisoners.
01:13:53.000 It's the most fucked up thing, because license plates were always made by prisoners.
01:13:58.000 That was like the inside out.
01:14:00.000 Wow!
01:14:01.000 Every comic had that.
01:14:02.000 I thought I was so brilliant for thinking that up.
01:14:04.000 And some guys had to tell me, you know, a couple other guys got that joke, too.
01:14:08.000 Yeah, well, they got it from me.
01:14:10.000 Clearly.
01:14:11.000 They heard me talking about it at a fucking Nick's Pizza place.
01:14:13.000 But being a guy that's making, it just seems so ironic to me, to be making license plates that say live free or die while you're trapped in a cage.
01:14:22.000 Or die.
01:14:23.000 Wow, that's insane.
01:14:25.000 Yeah.
01:14:26.000 Those days, man, those early days when I see kids today, like if I'll go to Kill Tony and I'll watch the open mic guys go up and try it for the third or fourth.
01:14:34.000 You know what Kill Tony is?
01:14:35.000 No.
01:14:36.000 Tony Hinchcliffe and Brian Redband have this really funny show where they take a professional comic.
01:14:42.000 I've been a guest on it a couple of times out here.
01:14:45.000 We're good to go.
01:15:01.000 They'll pull the name out of the hat, and then they bring them up on stage, and they do one minute of comedy.
01:15:05.000 Wow.
01:15:06.000 And sometimes it's great, and sometimes it's terrible.
01:15:08.000 When it's terrible, everybody makes fun of them, and when it's great, everybody makes fun of them and appraises them and says, good luck.
01:15:15.000 It's a great jumping-off point for young, up-and-coming comics.
01:15:18.000 That's a cool idea.
01:15:19.000 It's a great idea.
01:15:20.000 It's a great show.
01:15:21.000 But it's also to be there and see these people at the beginning where they're trying to figure it out.
01:15:29.000 They're over trying.
01:15:30.000 They don't know what they're doing.
01:15:32.000 I know.
01:15:33.000 It's cute.
01:15:34.000 Where's the cool areas?
01:15:36.000 I don't even know where the hell I'm playing.
01:15:38.000 Is it outdoors?
01:15:41.000 I don't know.
01:15:41.000 What place is your place?
01:15:43.000 What's it called?
01:15:45.000 You don't know where you're going?
01:15:49.000 Why don't you look at your phone?
01:15:51.000 Find out where you're at.
01:15:53.000 Jimmy will find out.
01:15:55.000 It's a weird name.
01:15:57.000 It's not Stubbs Amphitheater, right?
01:15:59.000 It's an amphitheater.
01:16:00.000 Oh, he's at Nutty Brown.
01:16:01.000 Oh, Nutty Brown's awesome.
01:16:02.000 Yeah.
01:16:03.000 Isn't that the place where Burr was?
01:16:05.000 I think so, yeah.
01:16:05.000 Yeah, dude, you're going to love it.
01:16:07.000 It's great.
01:16:08.000 Nutty Brown's great.
01:16:09.000 It's a beautiful amphitheater.
01:16:10.000 So it's outdoors.
01:16:11.000 Burr was there, yeah, but it's warm out.
01:16:13.000 Burr packed that sucker.
01:16:14.000 Yeah, it was awesome.
01:16:15.000 It was really fun.
01:16:16.000 That was one of the first shows that I got to see.
01:16:20.000 So where do you play?
01:16:21.000 Like live.
01:16:22.000 Don't you play out here?
01:16:23.000 Yeah.
01:16:23.000 We've been doing Stubbs.
01:16:25.000 Stubbs Amphitheater.
01:16:26.000 We COVID test the whole crowd.
01:16:28.000 Really?
01:16:29.000 Yep.
01:16:29.000 We get there.
01:16:30.000 The show starts at 7.30.
01:16:32.000 People get there at like 6.30.
01:16:33.000 There's a giant...
01:16:34.000 They got it down to a science.
01:16:36.000 They test everybody.
01:16:37.000 You go in there.
01:16:38.000 You're supposed to wear masks, but a lot of people don't.
01:16:41.000 And then you're in the crowd and everyone's distanced, but it's a, you know, like 400 seat crowd.
01:16:46.000 Wow!
01:16:47.000 Yeah, and it's great.
01:16:48.000 And that's the ones you and Dave have been doing?
01:16:50.000 Yeah, me and Dave and Donald Rollins, and the other night we did it with Ron White, Michelle Wolfe's done a bunch, Mo Amher's done a bunch of them with us, and we've been having so much fun.
01:16:59.000 And then we've also been doing Vulcan Gas Company sometimes.
01:17:03.000 It's like a local place, and they'll have local shows.
01:17:07.000 They have a show there tonight, and fuck around there just to keep the chops loose.
01:17:13.000 And eventually I'm opening up a club here.
01:17:16.000 Are you?
01:17:17.000 Oh, yeah.
01:17:17.000 Oh, yeah, I got the ball rolling.
01:17:19.000 Oh, God.
01:17:20.000 I'll let you know what happens.
01:17:21.000 Let me know.
01:17:22.000 I'd love to play there.
01:17:23.000 Oh, fuck, 100%.
01:17:24.000 Yeah, I would love to have you.
01:17:25.000 As soon as everything's up and running, I will send out the bat signal, and I'm going to...
01:17:29.000 You're going to have an overload.
01:17:31.000 I'm trying to have an overload.
01:17:32.000 No, it's going to be an overload.
01:17:33.000 Well, I want to have an overload.
01:17:34.000 There's going to be more clubs that are opening up here, too.
01:17:36.000 They're reopening up Cap City, but it's under the Helium banner.
01:17:39.000 The guy from Helium.
01:17:40.000 Oh, really?
01:17:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:17:41.000 He's hitting Austin.
01:17:42.000 Yeah.
01:17:42.000 Wait a minute.
01:17:43.000 Did I... Mark Grossman?
01:17:44.000 Yeah.
01:17:46.000 They're doing it at The Domain, which is this really nice shopping area of Austin.
01:17:52.000 It's a great place.
01:17:53.000 Smart.
01:17:53.000 Very smart.
01:17:54.000 Very smart place to put it because there's a ton of bars and restaurants there.
01:17:59.000 And apparently he's going to really do it up nice and have two rooms in that building, too.
01:18:04.000 So they'll have a small room and a larger room.
01:18:06.000 I feel like I was in Austin.
01:18:08.000 Is there an improv here?
01:18:10.000 No, there's no improv.
01:18:11.000 There's no real comedy club here right now.
01:18:13.000 Because Cap City went under.
01:18:15.000 Because when Cap City went under because of COVID... Oh, I'm so stupid.
01:18:18.000 I was by Dallas.
01:18:19.000 There's a Dallas improv.
01:18:20.000 There's a Houston improv.
01:18:21.000 That's what I was at.
01:18:22.000 I did Houston improv in July.
01:18:23.000 It was fucking great.
01:18:24.000 But I smoked too much weed and I got really paranoid.
01:18:27.000 I came back and I was like, oh my god, I want to infect a guest.
01:18:32.000 I can't do this.
01:18:33.000 I can't be going...
01:18:34.000 And I was getting tested and I was clean.
01:18:36.000 But I was still like, fuck, what if I infect somebody?
01:18:40.000 You know what?
01:18:41.000 I think I got mine from...
01:18:45.000 I went to Dallas, whatever that improv is, and the very last night...
01:18:52.000 I could have been anywhere, but I would eat by myself.
01:19:00.000 I'm totally solo.
01:19:01.000 I don't know who's opening tonight.
01:19:03.000 I don't know what's going on.
01:19:06.000 And after the last show...
01:19:10.000 I went in the green room, and I was getting ready to go out, and I heard this guy.
01:19:14.000 He's like, you don't understand tonight, man.
01:19:17.000 Jim Brewer, blah, blah, blah.
01:19:18.000 You know when you hear that.
01:19:19.000 And he goes, man, that meant so much.
01:19:22.000 And I creaked open the door.
01:19:24.000 I'm like, hey, man.
01:19:25.000 You want to come back and take a picture?
01:19:26.000 He's like, oh, my God.
01:19:27.000 I said, bring your wife.
01:19:28.000 Bring your wife.
01:19:28.000 He comes in.
01:19:29.000 He got you sick.
01:19:30.000 I don't know.
01:19:31.000 That guy got you sick.
01:19:32.000 I think he got me sick because...
01:19:34.000 That fucking whining, coughing fuck.
01:19:36.000 He had a couple cocktails in him and I could feel his breath going on me.
01:19:40.000 And that's the first time I was like, oh no, but...
01:19:43.000 COVID breath.
01:19:44.000 But, I don't know, but that's...
01:19:48.000 It was about three, four days later when it started.
01:19:51.000 I went, oh.
01:19:53.000 But, who the heck knows?
01:19:54.000 I was reading an article about COVID toes.
01:19:56.000 I'm fine.
01:19:57.000 People get COVID toes.
01:19:59.000 What's COVID toes?
01:19:59.000 Exactly.
01:20:00.000 It turns out it's not real.
01:20:02.000 And then in the article, one of the things they said, also, people who don't have COVID get the same thing from walking around the house barefoot.
01:20:09.000 I'm like, okay, we're done.
01:20:10.000 What?
01:20:11.000 I don't even know what just happened.
01:20:13.000 You called it COVID toes, and then you went into depth about these things showing pictures of people's fucked up, swollen toes.
01:20:19.000 And then at the end of the article, it says apparently people can also get this from just being barefoot.
01:20:26.000 So it's a barefoot thing.
01:20:28.000 Yeah, that's all it is.
01:20:29.000 It's a walking around barefoot, banging your toes on things, you stub your toes.
01:20:33.000 I just banged the shit out of my toe.
01:20:35.000 I just saw his black toe and I don't know where I got it from.
01:20:37.000 You know what the real problem with media is?
01:20:40.000 The real problem with news media is that it's profitable.
01:20:43.000 That's the problem.
01:20:45.000 The problem is it's profitable, so there's a bunch of clickbait titles, and it's also very influential, right?
01:20:51.000 And because they know it's influential, they can lean the news one way or the other.
01:20:55.000 If someone could come along and have a fact-based, completely objective, research-driven, completely non-biased news program, it would be so valuable to people.
01:21:11.000 Can it exist?
01:21:12.000 I don't know.
01:21:13.000 I don't know either.
01:21:14.000 That's what they were trying to do.
01:21:15.000 That's what they used to teach you in journalism.
01:21:17.000 But now, young journalists, if you pay attention to some of the stories that come out of the New York Times, or even some of the most respected newspapers in the country, they're activists.
01:21:26.000 They're all activists.
01:21:27.000 But this is a problem, because they'll omit information that's contrary to what they're trying to promote, and they're not always right.
01:21:36.000 My daughter came back from college.
01:21:39.000 Uh-oh.
01:21:41.000 Not even.
01:21:42.000 So this was, let's see, she left in August, came back October.
01:21:48.000 End of August, October.
01:21:53.000 It looked like she went to a seminar.
01:21:56.000 You weren't allowed to leave.
01:21:58.000 Her eyes were glazed over.
01:22:00.000 She was like, sexist, racist, gender, gender, gender, racist.
01:22:05.000 Can't say that.
01:22:06.000 Can't say that.
01:22:07.000 LGBTQ2. Human rights.
01:22:09.000 LGBTQ2. Gender.
01:22:11.000 Gender.
01:22:12.000 I said, good morning.
01:22:13.000 And this fucker was off on a tangent.
01:22:15.000 And I realized I'm paying $20,000, $30,000.
01:22:22.000 For my kid to get indoctrinated and brainwashed, she tried to explain to me how the Indians had different genders.
01:22:32.000 And I went, who?
01:22:33.000 Native Americans?
01:22:34.000 Yeah.
01:22:34.000 I went, who?
01:22:35.000 Who tried telling?
01:22:37.000 They got pictures on walls now where the Indians are drawing, where they're cutting off a penis and injecting hormones?
01:22:44.000 I don't understand.
01:22:45.000 I don't understand.
01:22:45.000 What does that mean?
01:22:46.000 But they did.
01:22:47.000 What do you mean they did?
01:22:49.000 That was part of Native American culture.
01:22:51.000 They cut their penis?
01:22:51.000 No, no, no.
01:22:52.000 They didn't have operations.
01:22:53.000 But there were some Native American tribe members in various tribes that were thought to be...
01:23:02.000 They considered them of a different sex or a different gender.
01:23:06.000 Like they had men and female, and then they had males that identified as females or behaved as females.
01:23:12.000 And they had females that identified as males and behaved as males.
01:23:15.000 Listen, this has always been a thing with human beings.
01:23:18.000 I get that.
01:23:19.000 It was taboo and hidden for the most part.
01:23:21.000 Well, I can get it as far as if we're in a tribe, right?
01:23:25.000 Now, I know you're an alpha male.
01:23:28.000 We're alpha males.
01:23:29.000 You're more alpha male than me.
01:23:30.000 So we're going to go to battle.
01:23:32.000 I'm probably going to get you.
01:23:34.000 You're going to have to be the battler.
01:23:36.000 But I'm going to...
01:23:36.000 I clearly know my role is to keep the...
01:23:39.000 I have a different role.
01:23:41.000 Right.
01:23:41.000 Whatever that role is.
01:23:43.000 All right?
01:23:43.000 Some people's role is like, hey, listen, I got to stay here.
01:23:46.000 I got to...
01:23:47.000 Is that what you're talking about?
01:23:49.000 Are you talking full-blown?
01:23:50.000 No, no.
01:23:50.000 There was men that identified as women.
01:23:52.000 Like, it's been throughout history.
01:23:54.000 There's been males that felt like they should have been females.
01:23:58.000 They don't understand what makes a person want to be a man and what makes a person want to be a woman.
01:24:04.000 Some women wish they were men.
01:24:06.000 They feel like they should have been a man.
01:24:08.000 There's always been that.
01:24:09.000 It's not fake, right?
01:24:12.000 There really are people that have these thoughts.
01:24:15.000 The problem is it becomes a protected subject, and then you get praised for transferring your gender, for changing your gender.
01:24:26.000 Correct.
01:24:26.000 And then it gets exciting for people to talk about, and then you get chastised for even discussing it in any weird way.
01:24:35.000 And then people who were marginalized for being, like, genuinely...
01:24:40.000 Dumb people, if they transfer over and become another gender, then they get praised.
01:24:47.000 Like, there's been a lot of people that were like, idiots.
01:24:49.000 But then they become trans, and now all of a sudden we think they're amazing.
01:24:53.000 Correct.
01:24:53.000 So I'll give an example.
01:24:56.000 I was talking to a...
01:25:01.000 A person that's a therapist.
01:25:03.000 I don't go to a therapist.
01:25:06.000 Not that that's good or bad.
01:25:08.000 This person was a therapist.
01:25:11.000 This therapist was telling me that their child Was transgender.
01:25:20.000 And they were worried about their son, now daughter, going into high school.
01:25:27.000 And I said, I don't understand.
01:25:30.000 Is it a sexual?
01:25:32.000 Can you explain to me?
01:25:33.000 Because whenever I bring it up to my daughter, and the problem with it is, no one knows how to talk.
01:25:40.000 It turns into a fight.
01:25:42.000 In a debate.
01:25:43.000 I would ask my daughter, what does that mean?
01:25:46.000 You identify a transvestite.
01:25:49.000 Oh my god, you know what?
01:25:49.000 I'm not talking.
01:25:50.000 I'm not even fucking talking about it!
01:25:52.000 I'm just asking you a question.
01:25:55.000 They don't even know how to talk.
01:25:58.000 Because they're indoctrinated into an ideology that demands that you comply.
01:26:01.000 Correct.
01:26:02.000 When I'm like, let's just have a conversation.
01:26:04.000 There's a transvestite that comes into our coffee shop.
01:26:08.000 I don't think you're allowed to say transvestite anymore.
01:26:09.000 I just did.
01:26:10.000 I think it's a bad word now.
01:26:12.000 I'm generation.
01:26:12.000 I'm in the 80s.
01:26:13.000 We call it transvestite.
01:26:15.000 You can't deprogram me.
01:26:16.000 Can you say drag queen?
01:26:17.000 Drag queen.
01:26:19.000 Can you say it?
01:26:20.000 I just said it.
01:26:20.000 I said it too.
01:26:22.000 It's a drag queen.
01:26:22.000 What I'm saying is that like someone, are you allowed to say it?
01:26:25.000 Too bad!
01:26:26.000 Like, Miley Cyrus is really into drag queens.
01:26:28.000 Like, she thinks it's hilarious.
01:26:29.000 She loves them.
01:26:30.000 Right!
01:26:31.000 She loves, like, drag...
01:26:32.000 What's that show?
01:26:32.000 Dragstrip?
01:26:33.000 What's it called?
01:26:33.000 Oh, God, my daughter watches it.
01:26:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:26:35.000 They dress up like drag queens.
01:26:37.000 She loves it.
01:26:37.000 So, the person goes...
01:26:40.000 The person goes, and I'm all for it, man.
01:26:43.000 That's a lot of work.
01:26:44.000 It's a lot of work.
01:26:45.000 Yeah, you're putting in the work.
01:26:46.000 That's a lot of work.
01:26:48.000 It's Halloween every day.
01:26:49.000 You're sucking this in.
01:26:50.000 Yeah, it's a lot.
01:26:52.000 Halloween every day.
01:26:53.000 Wearing your big man feet and tight women.
01:26:56.000 Dude, that's a lot of work.
01:26:57.000 It's a lot of work.
01:26:58.000 I totally respect.
01:26:59.000 Yeah.
01:27:00.000 So with that said, I go, well, what?
01:27:03.000 Explain to me what we started helping him with his hormones and Now, I'll just say this.
01:27:14.000 I learned a lot about cancer, because my wife's been dealing it since 2012. And not a fact, just an opinion.
01:27:30.000 Your hormones are changed the minute you start taking the pill.
01:27:35.000 Birth control pill.
01:27:36.000 Yes.
01:27:36.000 Absolutely.
01:27:37.000 100%.
01:27:37.000 And if you look at when...
01:27:40.000 Breast cancer started just rising.
01:27:42.000 It's just a bizarre coincidence.
01:27:44.000 The more pills we take.
01:27:46.000 It's a kazillion dollar industry.
01:27:49.000 A lot of things.
01:27:50.000 Could be a billion things.
01:27:51.000 Doesn't matter.
01:27:52.000 But I've had specialists explain to me...
01:27:56.000 Hormones...
01:27:59.000 Once you start messing with hormones, it's like it wakes cancer up and it waits and hangs out in your body.
01:28:07.000 And then why women often get it at a certain age is because your hormones start changing again.
01:28:13.000 And just like Pac-Man, it comes alive.
01:28:15.000 Like, ah, remember when you made me alive and born?
01:28:21.000 Well, now I'm back because you fucked with the hormones.
01:28:25.000 So when I asked this person, of course I didn't bring any of this up.
01:28:31.000 I just couldn't believe that I could tell you.
01:28:37.000 So I said, what exactly made your son want to gender?
01:28:43.000 Is it a sexual thing?
01:28:44.000 Did he see pornography?
01:28:47.000 Because that's another thing people don't want to admit.
01:28:49.000 When you see porn as a kid, I was traumatized.
01:28:54.000 The first time I saw porn, you know, I'm playing Godzilla and Pac-Man, and the next thing, you know, it's like, oh my god, what?
01:29:04.000 I never looked at anything.
01:29:06.000 I'm banging pillows now.
01:29:08.000 A savage comes out of you.
01:29:10.000 I never even thought of sticking my...
01:29:12.000 It alters your mind and everything.
01:29:17.000 And it's extremely addicting.
01:29:20.000 So with that, I'm asking them, like, she said, no, he didn't like his penis.
01:29:25.000 He just never liked his penis.
01:29:27.000 It was ugly.
01:29:28.000 And I wanted to say, did you ever talk to him?
01:29:34.000 And say, well, just like the ugly duckling, the ugly duckling was very ugly and didn't like his penis and didn't really understand why his penis existed because he's five years old.
01:29:47.000 And then by the time he's seven, eight years old, you start explaining that, hey, the penis is going to maybe, you know, hey, there's some good things.
01:29:55.000 There's going to be times you're going to have to piss really bad and you're going to enjoy that penis and you go out in the bushes and you pee while...
01:30:00.000 This is the weirdest ugly duckling story ever.
01:30:03.000 Imagine if your dad is telling you the ugly duckling story about dicks and you're like, what are you trying to say, dad?
01:30:09.000 Your dad's Jim Brewer.
01:30:11.000 Just say it, dad!
01:30:12.000 But the point is, I'm sure they had conversations, but her...
01:30:19.000 Her conversation ended by just saying, no, he just never liked his penis.
01:30:23.000 He never liked his penis.
01:30:24.000 He never liked his penis.
01:30:26.000 And I'm not to judge, but I just find it extremely dangerous unless your child is in a situation where they may die.
01:30:42.000 Well, there's no situation where you may die if you don't change your gender, unless you're talking about suicide.
01:30:47.000 No, I'm saying to change your body's chemistry.
01:30:52.000 Because another thing is, I've dealt with teenagers that are addicts, and they'll clearly tell you the reason why drugs and alcohol are so bad at you at the age of 13,
01:31:07.000 14, 15, because your brain is not developed.
01:31:12.000 Yeah.
01:31:12.000 And it will affect your brain.
01:31:14.000 So if your brain...
01:31:15.000 And they say you really can't make 100% conscious decisions until you're between whatever.
01:31:24.000 They think it's 25. Let's say it's 21. Yeah.
01:31:27.000 But why is that...
01:31:29.000 So I just question...
01:31:31.000 Not anyone out there.
01:31:33.000 Right, why can you change your gender when you're still developing?
01:31:34.000 Why would you do it as a child?
01:31:36.000 There's no good answer.
01:31:37.000 There is no good answer.
01:31:39.000 I just beg people to think about it.
01:31:41.000 But it's one of those things where if you bring it up...
01:31:43.000 For the health.
01:31:44.000 There's the ideology.
01:31:45.000 One ideology is that this person has always been a girl and that they know by the time they're two and you should get them on hormone blockers as quickly as you can so you can change their gender as quickly as you can.
01:31:57.000 And then there's another ideology that says, hey, wait a minute, you are doing something that, first of all, is very recent in terms of medical science.
01:32:05.000 They haven't been around that long in terms of these gender or these hormone blockers.
01:32:08.000 And you're allowing children to make decisions at a very young age that will affect them literally for the rest of their life.
01:32:17.000 It's not like it's a 100% success rate.
01:32:20.000 There's a lot of kids who go through gender reassignment surgery that are very regretful.
01:32:25.000 There's websites dedicated to it.
01:32:26.000 You can read all these personal accounts.
01:32:29.000 If there was a thing that always worked, like every time you did it, and like, oh, they feel so much better.
01:32:36.000 I'm not making a comparison in terms of the same thing, but here's a good example.
01:32:41.000 If someone wanted a nose job, like maybe someone has a really fucked up nose, a deformed hump on their nose, and you take that thing down, and then they look much better, and they're much happier.
01:32:52.000 And most...
01:32:54.000 Good nose jobs, I bet, do have a positive success rate in terms of positive feeling after it's done.
01:33:02.000 Sure.
01:33:03.000 I'm so happy I got that crazy fucking hook fixed on the top of my nose.
01:33:07.000 Yeah.
01:33:08.000 This is not that.
01:33:09.000 This is something way more complex.
01:33:12.000 And...
01:33:13.000 It's also, there's been studies that show that for some of these people that don't transition, that wanted to transition when they were young, they wind up just becoming gay as they get older.
01:33:23.000 And there's nothing wrong with that either.
01:33:26.000 Human beings, if they want to do this as they're an adult, and they know for a fact they want to do it as an adult...
01:33:33.000 Then they should be able to make their own choices.
01:33:36.000 But when you're talking about really young children and then you have all this reinforcement from people and trans activists and people that literally encourage people to do this.
01:33:47.000 You don't know.
01:33:49.000 You can't quantify what's going on inside of a person's mind.
01:33:53.000 The problem is, I think, for some people, it is the right choice.
01:33:57.000 For some people, if you got them on hormone blockers and then they transitioned to be a woman, they might ultimately be happier.
01:34:03.000 That's real possible.
01:34:05.000 But they might not, too.
01:34:07.000 And so when you're in this situation where you're talking about a minor...
01:34:09.000 And you use absolutes like this is where they want to be.
01:34:14.000 This is their true gender.
01:34:15.000 This is what they should do.
01:34:16.000 And then you encourage them and you lead them along.
01:34:19.000 You're in this weird place when you talk with young people.
01:34:22.000 You can encourage young people to do a lot of things because they're very malleable.
01:34:26.000 Young people are very easily influenced.
01:34:28.000 And they're also, you know, there's a book written by this woman, Abigail Schreier, it's called Irreversible Damage.
01:34:34.000 And it's about this.
01:34:35.000 And it's about young girls in particular, that there's been an uptick of over, I think, I believe it's over 1000% of kids identifying, particularly girls, identifying as trans when they're in high school.
01:34:48.000 It's called rapid onset gender dysphoria, where these girls, a lot of times socially awkward girls, a lot of times girls who may be on the spectrum, they may have issues, and they get together and decide in clusters that they're trans.
01:35:05.000 And it's very strange.
01:35:07.000 And statistically speaking, it doesn't necessarily make sense if you think about how many people out of a hundred would naturally be trans, or out of a thousand, or out of a million.
01:35:18.000 It's much higher than that for these groups, and they feel like they're being influenced by social pressures, and they're making these decisions.
01:35:34.000 Yeah.
01:35:35.000 Yeah.
01:35:36.000 Yeah.
01:35:56.000 Without consulting other people in their family, without consulting their parental guides.
01:35:59.000 You can't drink, you can't drive, you can't do anything.
01:36:02.000 But you can go and have gender reassignment surgery.
01:36:04.000 And a lot of people have issue with that.
01:36:06.000 It's a super, super touchy subject.
01:36:09.000 But why is it touchy?
01:36:10.000 Well, this is the problem, because they don't want anyone We're good to go.
01:36:26.000 They were trying to say that if you get someone on hormone blockers when they're young and they change their mind and decide to be the sex that they were born with, that there will be no damage.
01:36:34.000 Now they're saying, no, that's not true.
01:36:36.000 Now they're saying, you will definitely change the way that person develops and grows, and they will have damage.
01:36:42.000 So, like, this is obvious to anybody that knows anything about the human body and about hormones.
01:36:47.000 But they were trying to pretend that it wouldn't have any effect on them.
01:36:51.000 This is why I always...
01:36:53.000 Where does this start?
01:36:54.000 Does it start with a mad scientist?
01:36:57.000 No, it starts in universities.
01:36:58.000 There's a lot of it.
01:36:59.000 A lot of it starts with people that don't live in the real world and they live in these super insulated liberal environments like universities.
01:37:08.000 Who funds universities?
01:37:10.000 Well, people who pay to have their kids go there or people that are kids that get student loans.
01:37:16.000 I mean, if no one's paying, the university goes under.
01:37:20.000 But they are subsidized by the government, so it's one of the reasons why student loans are so expensive.
01:37:24.000 Okay, so if you're subsidized by the government, Wouldn't it eventually come from somewhere in there?
01:37:36.000 Yeah, it's not a plan.
01:37:37.000 Like, who creates education?
01:37:38.000 It's not a plot.
01:37:39.000 I know what you're saying.
01:37:40.000 No, no, no, but who creates...
01:37:41.000 It's a symptom of the fact that these people don't compete in the real world.
01:37:45.000 They don't exist in the real world.
01:37:47.000 They teach in universities, they get tenure, and there's an overwhelming liberal bias in education.
01:37:54.000 Like, overwhelming.
01:37:55.000 Why do you think that is?
01:37:56.000 It's a lot.
01:37:57.000 I think in terms of education, the type of people that wind up doing that are the type of people that go to school, they get indoctrinated into that environment, and then they wind up teaching.
01:38:08.000 So they don't really leave.
01:38:10.000 They stay in this mindset, and it's very much like any other...
01:38:16.000 Ideological mindset, whether it's a religion or a cult or liberal thinking that mirrors religion in a lot of ways because there's no compromise.
01:38:28.000 You're compelled to think a certain way and you're criticized and ostracized if you don't comply.
01:38:36.000 It's mandatory compliance.
01:38:38.000 To think along certain lines.
01:38:39.000 And they also make you think along lines where you know that it's not logical.
01:38:44.000 You know it's not correct.
01:38:45.000 Like a big one is transgender athletes.
01:38:48.000 They try to say, like, do you know this?
01:38:51.000 In high school in Connecticut, 15 state championship titles, 15 records are being held by two biological males in Connecticut.
01:39:03.000 Yeah, it's bananas.
01:39:04.000 Everybody knows it's bananas, but yet they're saying, like, Scientific America just had a story about it.
01:39:10.000 Like, we must allow transgender athletes to compete in the sex that they identify with.
01:39:16.000 Well, no, that's crazy.
01:39:18.000 No, we must not allow that.
01:39:20.000 Because we must protect biological women.
01:39:22.000 There's a reason why biological males are not allowed to compete with biological women.
01:39:26.000 It's because they have certain physical advantages.
01:39:29.000 That's why we have boy sports and girl sports.
01:39:32.000 Now, just because someone identifies as being trans, should we treat them like they're a woman or treat them like they're a boy?
01:39:39.000 Yes, we should.
01:39:39.000 But we should recognize that when we're talking about athletic competition, that we're dealing with a completely different thing.
01:39:45.000 We're dealing with...
01:39:47.000 Physical bodies competing against other physical bodies.
01:39:50.000 And yes, there's a spectrum in physical bodies.
01:39:53.000 And there's some women that are going to be superior athletically, and there's some women that just don't have good bodies for sports.
01:40:00.000 The same thing with males.
01:40:02.000 And the difference in the spectrum is, if you took a world-class sprinter, world-class sprinter as a woman, top of the food chain, Olympic gold medalist, There are high school athletes that will bury her as males.
01:40:18.000 Male high school athletes.
01:40:20.000 Built differently.
01:40:21.000 You can take the best sprinter in the world and you'll find a hundred male high school, high school, 15-year-olds, who will leave her in the dust.
01:40:30.000 Right.
01:40:30.000 Because they're built differently.
01:40:31.000 This is when I go into the system of everything.
01:40:38.000 It's so bizarre to me.
01:40:40.000 Like when I was in...
01:40:42.000 I always question...
01:40:43.000 You know, my kids come home from school.
01:40:46.000 I go, why are you...
01:40:48.000 Like, why are they learning what they're learning?
01:40:51.000 90% of it, if you ask me, makes zero sense.
01:40:56.000 Zero sense.
01:40:58.000 So, if you're not...
01:41:01.000 And here, I... I'm all over the place.
01:41:04.000 Even when I was...
01:41:05.000 Years ago, you know what?
01:41:07.000 In my opinion...
01:41:09.000 I... I believe you create something.
01:41:15.000 If I create a drug or if I create a procedure, I need to sell it somehow to make money.
01:41:22.000 So how do I get it out there?
01:41:25.000 I got to come up with a disease or a...
01:41:30.000 Everyone today has something like, oh, your child has XYZ. And a lot of people have ADHD. I say ADHD back in the day was called,
01:41:46.000 I'm bored from the bullshit.
01:41:49.000 Because many kids, you can take ADHD and they may not be good learners because what you're shoving down their throat is not only boring, but they know it has no substance or nothing that will prep them for anything that's real in human soul existence.
01:42:10.000 There's a lot of debate about that stuff, too.
01:42:12.000 It's not a debate.
01:42:13.000 It's common sense.
01:42:15.000 But there's a lot of debate about whether or not that's a real thing.
01:42:18.000 So then, what do they do?
01:42:20.000 They drug your child.
01:42:22.000 And they purposely start with the, you know, your child would do so much better.
01:42:29.000 It's a simple drug.
01:42:32.000 So they started...
01:42:34.000 Diseasing and drugging your children at a very young age, and every time they got a new drug and a new something, it seems that it's infiltrated, it's put out, it's sold, and you need to create something to sell it.
01:42:51.000 And I just sit back, I watch, if I say something, I'm a conspiracy guy, but I do feel we're coming to a head either We need to start thinking and questioning everything,
01:43:08.000 or we're heading in a wacky, wacky new world.
01:43:14.000 We are in a wacky new world.
01:43:16.000 This is the matrix.
01:43:18.000 It is.
01:43:19.000 Yeah, and we're actually moving into the matrix, which is even crazier because people are getting closer and closer to an electronic reality where you're completely connected all the time.
01:43:28.000 If you were to take away all visual, All visual.
01:43:33.000 All audio.
01:43:34.000 I guarantee you 90% of what goes on today wouldn't exist.
01:43:38.000 Wouldn't exist.
01:43:39.000 You mean in terms of like a lot of the wacky social shit?
01:43:42.000 All of it.
01:43:43.000 Not necessarily.
01:43:44.000 People wouldn't be running around.
01:43:45.000 There was a lot of craziness in the universities in the 60s during the Vietnam War protest.
01:43:51.000 Even before then.
01:43:52.000 The humanity.
01:43:53.000 You asked me something really interesting last time we were here.
01:43:56.000 If you had to go back in time...
01:44:01.000 Or if you had one question, and my question was, when did this all start?
01:44:07.000 When was the first movement of, you need schools?
01:44:13.000 What do you need a school for if we're living off the land and we just got to eat and take care of one another?
01:44:18.000 What do you need a school for to make money?
01:44:21.000 Well, money's fake.
01:44:22.000 No, it's not necessarily just that.
01:44:23.000 You know what I mean?
01:44:23.000 Because people have accumulated information.
01:44:24.000 It's very difficult to find.
01:44:26.000 You gotta get it all in one place.
01:44:27.000 And the best way to have it taught is to have it taught by someone who's a professional intellectual.
01:44:32.000 Like someone who's actually been studying all this stuff all day long.
01:44:36.000 Most people, if you have a craft, like say if you're a blacksmith.
01:44:39.000 If you're a blacksmith and you make horseshoes or knives or whatever the fuck you make, you don't have the time to acquire all of Galileo's theories and writings.
01:44:48.000 Listen to what Newton had to say about gravity.
01:44:51.000 You don't have time.
01:44:52.000 You don't have time for any of that shit.
01:44:53.000 Darwin's theory.
01:44:54.000 You're not gonna study evolution.
01:44:56.000 You don't have time.
01:44:56.000 So you want to bring your children, you want to have people educated by someone who's a professional intellect.
01:45:03.000 So someone who's been studying these thoughts and concepts and knows how to teach them.
01:45:08.000 The problem is, then, they also have immense power over children.
01:45:13.000 Right?
01:45:14.000 Because the children listen to them, look up to them, and a lot of them have immense egos because of the fact they have this immense power.
01:45:21.000 A lot of them also are in a position of power for the first time in their life.
01:45:25.000 So much like a newly famous person that wants a white tiger, they become indoctrinated into this world of power And attention.
01:45:33.000 And so then they demand compliance in this ideology they're teaching to children.
01:45:39.000 And then those children eventually get jobs at the university and some of them become professors themselves.
01:45:46.000 And so they continually perpetuate this world that they were indoctrinated into.
01:45:52.000 And this world is extremely left-wing.
01:45:56.000 And they feel like they should be able to do these things here.
01:46:00.000 Do you remember there was a lady that got in trouble a few years back because she was on a university campus and this was when they first started doing safe spaces.
01:46:08.000 They first started doing these safe spaces and this one kid who was an Asian kid was filming this safe space and this woman who was a professor was Was yelling at him to put the camera down.
01:46:24.000 He's like, I'm reporting for the school.
01:46:25.000 This is what I do.
01:46:27.000 I'm a journalist under training.
01:46:30.000 I'm training to be a journalist.
01:46:31.000 She yells at him.
01:46:33.000 She says, this is a safe space.
01:46:35.000 There's no cameras.
01:46:36.000 They're outside, too, by the way.
01:46:38.000 And then she said, can I get some muscle over here to handle this?
01:46:41.000 So she starts calling for reinforcement.
01:46:44.000 Of her idea.
01:46:45.000 She's telling this guy and then she's calling for people to come.
01:46:49.000 She literally asked for muscle to come and help her physically intimidate this guy to stop him because she's saying a bunch of ridiculous shit and he's filming it.
01:46:58.000 So he puts it online and she winds up having to apologize and everybody Right.
01:47:24.000 Whether it's through Russia, the way the Russians did it, or the way the Chinese did it, when they want compliance, there's only one way to stop the people that resist.
01:47:33.000 You have to use force.
01:47:34.000 Force.
01:47:35.000 I'll tell you what.
01:47:35.000 This woman immediately went to force.
01:47:37.000 Can I get some muscle?
01:47:38.000 This is the way the human mind works.
01:47:40.000 Yeah.
01:47:41.000 When you're trying to tell people what to do and they don't want to listen, and you have other people that are willing to, hey, hey, hey, will you take care of this?
01:47:46.000 We'll take care of it.
01:47:47.000 You have more important things to do, like safe spaces.
01:47:49.000 We'll just beat the fuck out of this journalist student and let him know and teach him.
01:47:54.000 We don't take care of...
01:47:56.000 Our journalists don't...
01:47:58.000 They're not allowed to film the things that are uncomfortable.
01:48:01.000 It's insanity.
01:48:03.000 Yeah, it's insanity.
01:48:04.000 I have a guy, one of my...
01:48:06.000 I don't want to say what he does.
01:48:08.000 I have an acquaintance from Korea, an acquaintance from Portugal, and Romania.
01:48:16.000 And all three have said the same thing in pure terror.
01:48:20.000 Yeah.
01:48:21.000 They all have said, you, meaning America, have no clue what's going on right now.
01:48:29.000 You are worse than just sitting ducks because you're so compliant and you don't even know it's happening.
01:48:36.000 This has been in the works for 20 to 30 years.
01:48:39.000 They started with education.
01:48:41.000 They got the media.
01:48:42.000 They got the judges.
01:48:43.000 They got the lawmakers.
01:48:44.000 You guys are doomed.
01:48:46.000 I don't think it's a conspiracy.
01:48:48.000 I know it sounds ridiculous, but I don't think that it's happening because of a conspiracy.
01:48:53.000 I think this happens at the end of every civilization's reign.
01:48:57.000 And I think this happened with the Greeks and it happened with the Romans.
01:49:01.000 It's one of the things that Douglas Murray, when I had him on my podcast, was discussing.
01:49:04.000 He said one of the things that happens at the end of civilizations is they become obsessed with gender.
01:49:12.000 Yeah.
01:49:32.000 This is what I learned about television, too.
01:49:35.000 I would like anyone to just—I always say, look at all the TV shows, and you tell me, out of all the shows that are out there, all the channels, who's the strong, smart male?
01:49:51.000 There's not a lot of that.
01:49:52.000 Why do you think that is?
01:49:54.000 Who programs the programs?
01:49:56.000 Who puts on programming?
01:49:58.000 Who runs big networks?
01:49:59.000 And who's putting on show after show after show with a specific line of entertainment that is constantly pumped into the system?
01:50:12.000 Yeah, but it's because they're trying to be successful, okay?
01:50:15.000 They're trying to tell stories.
01:50:16.000 And the best way to get something on the air...
01:50:20.000 If you're going to do a comedy in particular, is to have the bumbling male, like the Al Bundy, like he's falling apart, and then you have...
01:50:28.000 Sure.
01:50:29.000 Those themes exist over and over and over again.
01:50:32.000 But then some people tell me this, I'll go, well, I'll say, if you think news is really good, if they really cared about humanity, they would say, hey, man...
01:50:43.000 Start loving people.
01:50:44.000 Start taking care of your body.
01:50:46.000 It's all just hate division.
01:50:48.000 But here the answer is always, well, it's because of the entertainment.
01:50:54.000 But they don't allow any other view.
01:50:57.000 So therefore, it's almost like you're programmed.
01:51:00.000 Yeah, this is what you got.
01:51:02.000 You don't even...
01:51:04.000 The other side's never even had a chance.
01:51:06.000 Well, if you're in the bubble of Hollywood, right?
01:51:08.000 See, this is the thing.
01:51:09.000 It's like thought contagions.
01:51:10.000 If you're in the left-wing Hollywood bubble, everyone...
01:51:14.000 Have you ever been on a conference call with a bunch of Hollywood people and they'll say wacky shit?
01:51:18.000 I mean, I've heard people say, especially people that are...
01:51:23.000 Let's put it this way.
01:51:26.000 Pro-Israel.
01:51:27.000 They will say a lot of crazy shit about Arabs or about Palestinians, and you'll go like, whoa.
01:51:36.000 Like, imagine if someone was recording this.
01:51:39.000 Right.
01:51:39.000 Like, you're assuming everyone's on the same page.
01:51:42.000 Right.
01:51:43.000 This is years ago and generally in response to something in the news.
01:51:47.000 But there's an ideology that everyone subscribes to.
01:51:51.000 And that ideology is extremely left-wing.
01:51:55.000 It's extremely left-wing and it's all negative.
01:51:58.000 You could not be in a meeting seven, eight months ago and have pro-Trump rhetoric in a Hollywood meeting to pitch a show.
01:52:06.000 They didn't care how good your show was.
01:52:08.000 You're done.
01:52:09.000 You're done.
01:52:09.000 Get out of here.
01:52:10.000 You could be the nicest guy in the world, but if you have some sort of a message about Trump, well, here's the thing people don't know about Trump.
01:52:18.000 Unemployment among black families is lower than it's ever been before.
01:52:22.000 Having jobs are higher.
01:52:23.000 There's less crime.
01:52:24.000 The economy is better.
01:52:26.000 And as the economy does better, all the communities do better.
01:52:29.000 If you started saying things like that, they would kick you out of the office.
01:52:31.000 They don't give a fuck about that.
01:52:33.000 The ideology is very left-wing.
01:52:36.000 And so they feed off of this, and then they are producing the new shows.
01:52:40.000 So if they're producing the new shows, they think they're doing the right thing.
01:52:44.000 Like, they all do.
01:52:46.000 Like, I used to...
01:52:47.000 People used to say, oh, TV shows...
01:52:50.000 They're programming these TV shows because they're trying to warp your mind.
01:52:54.000 Listen to me.
01:52:55.000 The people who are making those TV shows are just as influenced by the shit they're doing.
01:53:01.000 They believe all that shit.
01:53:03.000 They're stuck in it.
01:53:04.000 They're not like masterminds.
01:53:06.000 Right, right, right.
01:53:07.000 I am the puppet master.
01:53:09.000 I'm manipulating the people.
01:53:11.000 No, no, no.
01:53:11.000 They are just as balls deep in that fucking loony world as the people that they're selling it to.
01:53:18.000 You're right, you're right, you're right.
01:53:19.000 So what else you got then?
01:53:20.000 You got Fox News.
01:53:21.000 You got wacky shit like Newsmax or OAN, One American Network.
01:53:26.000 You're like, ugh.
01:53:27.000 I don't watch anything.
01:53:28.000 You know, you don't have a Rand Paul network, right?
01:53:31.000 You don't have a guy who's like a reasonable- You show me that guy.
01:53:33.000 Yes.
01:53:34.000 Very reasonable Republican.
01:53:36.000 Yes.
01:53:36.000 And he has some really good points.
01:53:38.000 He's talking about people wearing two masks that have been fully vaccinated.
01:53:42.000 And he said, it's theater.
01:53:43.000 He's saying to Fauci.
01:53:44.000 It's pure theater.
01:53:45.000 There's a lot of it.
01:53:46.000 There's a lot of letting people know, I am doing this double mask thing because this is what good people do.
01:53:52.000 Why don't you wear five masks and And I don't have to wear any.
01:53:56.000 So you'll be fully masked up.
01:53:57.000 You don't care what happens with me.
01:53:59.000 Don't worry about it.
01:54:00.000 You're good.
01:54:01.000 I was on the plane, and I started asking the nurse, and I said, so I'm on the plane, and we're in the tube.
01:54:11.000 And you take off the mask to eat.
01:54:12.000 And I take off the mask to eat, and the air above me is going...
01:54:15.000 It's theater.
01:54:19.000 And they go, well, the air in the...
01:54:23.000 And the plane has a negative effect.
01:54:29.000 So if this guy sneezes, I'm not going to get it because then we don't have to wear a mask if it's the air.
01:54:35.000 If it's the air and a plane is safe, well then why we wear a mask?
01:54:39.000 My friend Cody Garbrandt got kicked off a plane because his two-year-old son wouldn't keep his mask on.
01:54:44.000 What airline?
01:54:45.000 Southwest.
01:54:45.000 They took him off the plane, but he was throwing a fit, and he went into the cockpit and filmed both of the pilots who didn't have masks on.
01:54:54.000 And he said, we're all breathing the same fucking air, and you guys don't even have masks on.
01:54:58.000 This is crazy.
01:54:59.000 I have a friend that- A baby.
01:55:01.000 Well, the new thing is, if you don't get a vaccine, because people are now saying you can't continue working.
01:55:10.000 Who's saying that?
01:55:12.000 I have a friend who works for...
01:55:17.000 Something.
01:55:18.000 Something.
01:55:19.000 And she said...
01:55:20.000 They said that you have to be fully vaccinated.
01:55:22.000 You need to be vaccinated.
01:55:23.000 There's hospitals doing it.
01:55:25.000 There's doctors doing it.
01:55:26.000 So here's the thing.
01:55:26.000 If you don't know the effect, and you can't sue...
01:55:32.000 Any of this trial, because at the end of the day it's a trial, I believe.
01:55:35.000 I don't think it's...
01:55:37.000 I think they admit.
01:55:38.000 They don't know.
01:55:39.000 We don't 100% know.
01:55:41.000 Whatever it is.
01:55:43.000 If I do have an effect...
01:55:46.000 If I'm coming to work for Joe Rogan, and Joe goes, Jim, listen, they said you need to get vaccinated.
01:55:52.000 And you get vaccinated and there's a negative consequence.
01:55:55.000 I should be able to come after you.
01:55:58.000 Who do I sue then?
01:55:59.000 I would be the only person you could come after, because I don't think you can come after the company that makes them.
01:56:04.000 No, they made it clear you can't.
01:56:06.000 No, you can't.
01:56:08.000 You know what, man?
01:56:09.000 That's where we're going.
01:56:10.000 What Rand Paul was saying to Fauci was that when people have got the virus and got over it, even the small amount of cases where people did get reinfected, it was very mild.
01:56:22.000 And he was pointing out the fact that you keep these antibodies for a long time.
01:56:26.000 And they're showing people, Jamie has antibodies from October.
01:56:29.000 So here we are in March.
01:56:32.000 It's almost April.
01:56:33.000 And Jamie still has his antibodies from many months ago.
01:56:36.000 But now what were you watching?
01:56:38.000 What were you showing me with Rand Paul?
01:56:40.000 Is Rand Paul talking to Fauci?
01:56:42.000 On what?
01:56:43.000 It's in the Senate.
01:56:44.000 Okay, but here's how the media works.
01:56:47.000 They're not going to show that.
01:56:48.000 They're going to show Fauci Saying, well, it's whatever, because he was throwing smoke screens.
01:56:55.000 He was throwing tear gas.
01:56:56.000 Well, he was dancing around a circle.
01:56:58.000 Hold on, hold on.
01:56:59.000 In my opinion.
01:57:00.000 He was responding to criticism from a politician that was questioning why Fauci was, in Rand Paul's opinion, spreading doom and gloom.
01:57:12.000 Right.
01:57:31.000 Getting reinfected is extremely rare, and when they do get reinfected, it's much more mild.
01:57:37.000 He talked about the data that shows that people are showing that they have these antibodies five, eight months after infection, just like Jamie does.
01:57:45.000 Me.
01:57:45.000 And they're saying, and what he was saying is, you are the voice of doom and gloom.
01:57:52.000 One of the things that Fauci said that drives me crazy, he said, we're not going to be shaking hands anymore.
01:57:57.000 Like, what are the...
01:57:58.000 Yes, we are.
01:57:59.000 Yes, we are.
01:58:00.000 Yes, we are going to shake hands.
01:58:01.000 What he constantly was questioned, Rand Paul?
01:58:05.000 Yeah, Rand Paul.
01:58:06.000 I try to tap as much.
01:58:08.000 He kept questioning, you, Fauci, are talking about the science.
01:58:13.000 What science do you have?
01:58:14.000 And he wouldn't answer the question.
01:58:16.000 He kept dancing in circles.
01:58:17.000 He didn't have an answer.
01:58:19.000 He did not have a science.
01:58:20.000 You said, let's look at the science proves X, Y, and Z. You're doing theater.
01:58:26.000 And every time he kept saying that, Fauci kept dancing and would not answer the question.
01:58:31.000 But what you'll see on media later today, I guarantee you, will be Fauci with something he says as to, oh, Fauci says we need to X, Y, Z. And they won't show an inkling.
01:58:45.000 Of that brilliant, very well...
01:58:48.000 And if they did, they wouldn't be full and in context.
01:58:53.000 That's mind control.
01:58:54.000 That's not entertainment.
01:58:55.000 That's mind control.
01:58:56.000 That's a crime on humanity's mind.
01:58:58.000 And you know when this began?
01:59:00.000 When?
01:59:01.000 Years ago.
01:59:02.000 Should we get high now?
01:59:03.000 I'm already high naturally, bro.
01:59:05.000 You wanna?
01:59:07.000 Knock it out.
01:59:08.000 We get into this mind control talk.
01:59:10.000 Bro!
01:59:11.000 But listen to me!
01:59:12.000 Yeah?
01:59:13.000 If you go to the airport, I don't have a choice of what's playing at every gate.
01:59:20.000 It's always CNN. Why?
01:59:22.000 Why?
01:59:23.000 Because they're trying to...
01:59:23.000 It's mind control.
01:59:25.000 No, they're trying to give you the news before you get on a plane.
01:59:27.000 No, they're mind controlling you.
01:59:30.000 You think so?
01:59:30.000 That's a crime on humanity.
01:59:32.000 I should not...
01:59:33.000 That's a push.
01:59:34.000 You're pushing it a little bit, I think.
01:59:36.000 You may think so.
01:59:37.000 Listen...
01:59:37.000 Put on something neutral.
01:59:39.000 It doesn't make you talk.
01:59:40.000 Sometimes it's too loud.
01:59:41.000 I can't even hear myself.
01:59:42.000 I'm forced to go there.
01:59:44.000 Otherwise, now I've got to go to the food.
01:59:46.000 Why would you have...
01:59:49.000 Television's blaring news at gates with children...
01:59:54.000 And families of people that have no interest of what's going on.
02:00:00.000 I should not be forced to have this eye pornography and ear pornography.
02:00:07.000 So what do you think they should do?
02:00:08.000 It shouldn't be there.
02:00:10.000 Case closed.
02:00:12.000 And if you're going to have TV, put flowers and ducks and puppies.
02:00:15.000 But what if they do have to show you some news?
02:00:17.000 Like what if a super volcano erupted and all flights are canceled and they just want to inform people?
02:00:22.000 What did we do 40 years ago?
02:00:23.000 Your flight's canceled.
02:00:24.000 Why?
02:00:25.000 I heard what's going on.
02:00:27.000 It's not going to affect your life.
02:00:29.000 Is your life going to change that second?
02:00:31.000 I think some people like watching the news.
02:00:34.000 Because they've been indoctrinated.
02:00:36.000 Yeah, when they think that CNN is an unbiased source of news.
02:00:40.000 Oh, I'm not saying CNN. I'm saying any news.
02:00:42.000 It should not be up there.
02:00:43.000 It's a mind crime.
02:00:45.000 It's a crime on humanity's minds.
02:00:47.000 I think there's an argument for that.
02:00:48.000 And your emotions.
02:00:50.000 If I'm watching people getting blown up or they're telling me This one's an asshole.
02:00:57.000 Or that one, I'm telling you, this one's...
02:01:00.000 You're telling everyone at that gate, and as much as it drives me nuts that people go, well, we have a mind of their own.
02:01:09.000 Yeah, but not when it's manipulated 24-7.
02:01:12.000 There's a good argument about the airport thing, because you really can't escape it, right?
02:01:16.000 Because it's a rare moment where you're just sitting down in a place where you didn't choose to be at the news place.
02:01:23.000 You choose to be at the plane place.
02:01:25.000 I'm here to get on a plane.
02:01:26.000 I'm not here to take in the news.
02:01:28.000 I like this one, too.
02:01:29.000 Like, you!
02:01:30.000 You!
02:01:33.000 I like this one.
02:01:34.000 If you wear a mask on a plane, if you don't want to wear a mask, they say, you agreed to wear the mask.
02:01:42.000 I had no choice.
02:01:45.000 The airlines say...
02:01:46.000 Why do they say that to you that you agreed?
02:01:48.000 They don't say you agreed.
02:01:50.000 There's videos that people get kicked off the plane of people like, you agreed.
02:01:54.000 You agreed.
02:01:55.000 Before you go on the plane, you wear the mask.
02:01:57.000 I had no choice.
02:02:00.000 If you don't wear the mask...
02:02:02.000 They won't let you on the plane.
02:02:03.000 They don't let you on the plane.
02:02:04.000 The problem with it is...
02:02:05.000 So now they're controlling you where you go.
02:02:07.000 But the problem is, even if you do wear the mask, if you take it off to eat, all bets are off.
02:02:11.000 Because now we're in nonsense land.
02:02:13.000 We're nonsense!
02:02:15.000 Listen, I tell everyone, just change.
02:02:18.000 All you gotta do is just change it to an accent.
02:02:22.000 We have no rules and regulations.
02:02:24.000 The following is for your safety.
02:02:26.000 It starts making more...
02:02:27.000 It makes a lot more sense when you start doing that.
02:02:32.000 You know what's weird is that all the social distancing and masks and all this shit, it seems to have worked for the flu.
02:02:40.000 The flu is at the lowest rate that it's ever been in recorded history.
02:02:46.000 So it's really, it's wild.
02:02:48.000 So it's like one of two things that's happened.
02:02:50.000 Either COVID is so fucking contagious that it transfers even when people are wearing masks and social distancing, it's still making its way through the population, which is what you see in California, right?
02:03:04.000 Because California's had the strictest COVID lockdowns and the longest.
02:03:08.000 But they have really high levels of COVID infection.
02:03:11.000 They've had terrible, terrible results with their lockdowns.
02:03:15.000 And then the economic results is the worst by far.
02:03:18.000 I mean, they've doubled, more than doubled their unemployment rate.
02:03:21.000 It's fucking chaos in terms of homeless people.
02:03:24.000 75% of all LA restaurants are gone forever.
02:03:27.000 I mean, it's a fucking wreck.
02:03:28.000 It's a wreck.
02:03:29.000 But if you look at the flu, The flu, it worked on the flu.
02:03:37.000 So what is it?
02:03:38.000 Is it that these masks and social distancing are super effective with the flu because the flu is just not quite as contagious, so it just knocked it dead?
02:03:47.000 Is that what it is?
02:03:48.000 Or?
02:03:48.000 Or is it that a lot of people got both?
02:03:52.000 They got COVID and they got the flu, and it accentuated their illness.
02:03:55.000 And when we looked at it, we said, oh, this is a COVID infection.
02:03:59.000 But is it a COVID infection plus a flu infection?
02:04:02.000 Because it might be that.
02:04:03.000 Because that's one of the things that does happen to people that get the flu, right?
02:04:06.000 One of the things that happens when people get the flu, they can also get pneumonia, they can get a lot of other conditions.
02:04:10.000 Bronchitis.
02:04:11.000 Yeah, a lot of other things happen.
02:04:12.000 And especially when you're dealing with infectious diseases and you have a compromised immune system.
02:04:17.000 If you have the flu, man, your immune system is compromised.
02:04:20.000 And if you have COVID and the flu, the thing is they're going to put the attention on COVID because COVID is the big one.
02:04:26.000 That's the big one that's in the news.
02:04:28.000 And unless you're dying, take vitamin C, D, and zinc according to infectious disease doctor.
02:04:34.000 Yeah.
02:04:35.000 Well, most.
02:04:36.000 You shouldn't just take zinc.
02:04:38.000 You should take zinc with something so that it gets into your cells better.
02:04:41.000 And if you're going to take D, you should take D with K. I'll say I definitely tightened up.
02:04:46.000 I got healthier.
02:04:47.000 It made me think about how many times I shoved my fingers in my mouth.
02:04:50.000 I'll tell you that.
02:04:51.000 Not my nose, in my mouth.
02:04:52.000 Touch your face.
02:04:53.000 Touch my face.
02:04:54.000 Touch my eyes.
02:04:55.000 All that jazz.
02:04:56.000 It made me think that way, but whatever.
02:04:58.000 Yeah, it's the fucking immune system.
02:05:00.000 I wasn't very funny.
02:05:02.000 I apologize.
02:05:02.000 You were funny for a long time.
02:05:03.000 You just got a little crazy when we got to COVID. Is it crazy?
02:05:06.000 No.
02:05:06.000 But it is crazy.
02:05:08.000 Here's what drives me nuts.
02:05:08.000 Life is crazy.
02:05:09.000 Life is crazy.
02:05:11.000 I'm saddened.
02:05:13.000 My rage against the machine is anything that I feel...
02:05:20.000 Is unjust.
02:05:22.000 And you're taking advantage of humanity.
02:05:25.000 That makes me foam at the mouth.
02:05:28.000 Angry.
02:05:29.000 And that goes from faith.
02:05:32.000 It makes me nuts.
02:05:34.000 Makes me nuts.
02:05:36.000 It used to be, fuck you, I won't do what you tell me.
02:05:40.000 Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me.
02:05:43.000 Now it's...
02:05:45.000 Fuck you.
02:05:45.000 You better do what they tell you.
02:05:47.000 Dude, can I tell you what a fucking reason I was?
02:05:50.000 Yes!
02:05:50.000 That's what it is.
02:05:51.000 It's now you have to do what they tell you.
02:05:53.000 They were a month away from a comeback before the shutdown happened.
02:05:55.000 Were they?
02:05:56.000 And they're supposed to play at Coachella in April.
02:05:57.000 Whoa.
02:05:58.000 Bro, in June, I was...
02:06:00.000 This is what a knucklehead I am.
02:06:02.000 With Zach DeLaRocha?
02:06:03.000 The whole deal?
02:06:05.000 He's right.
02:06:07.000 Because I was ready to go see it.
02:06:08.000 I was ready to go see it.
02:06:10.000 Well, I think it was June, May or June.
02:06:14.000 I live in this little town in Chester, New Jersey, and I'm driving through town.
02:06:18.000 I've got my windows rolled down, and I purposely would keep that...
02:06:23.000 Now they do what they told you.
02:06:25.000 Now you do what they told you.
02:06:29.000 Fuck you!
02:06:31.000 And I'm going...
02:06:33.000 And I would do this like on a daily basis.
02:06:37.000 And I'm going, when am I 14?
02:06:39.000 Like, am I really?
02:06:40.000 And I'm blasting it.
02:06:42.000 And these little families like going to antique stores.
02:06:45.000 But it's just...
02:06:46.000 This is...
02:06:46.000 It made me...
02:06:47.000 My kids sat me down like, Dad, you got a...
02:06:52.000 You're nuts.
02:06:54.000 You're full-blown nuts.
02:06:55.000 What I'm worried is you and I are in our 50s and we're looking at this like guys who are older who are looking at the kids coming up today and going, what the fuck are they doing?
02:07:06.000 I'm worried that the kids that are coming up that don't recognize that they are being mentally manipulated and the narrative is being controlled by the media and it's being...
02:07:27.000 Yeah.
02:07:28.000 Yeah.
02:07:29.000 Yeah.
02:07:36.000 Favor with these people that these poor kids won't have the opportunity to think for themselves.
02:07:43.000 That they'll be so trapped in this ideology that we are dealing with something like Communist Russia.
02:07:50.000 We are dealing with a controlled population that is totally adherent to an ideology.
02:07:57.000 They're totally compliant to this ideology.
02:08:00.000 I'm scared of that, man.
02:08:02.000 Because that's...
02:08:03.000 That could be what's bubbling up right now, but we won't know until it's too late.
02:08:09.000 When all this shit was going on in the universities, I was complaining about it years ago.
02:08:12.000 And I remember people saying, like, why do you care what's happening in universities?
02:08:17.000 You're a comedian living in Los Angeles, and you're caring about these arguments in universities where they're shutting down conservative speakers and blowing bullhorns and setting off fire alarms.
02:08:29.000 I'm like, this is thought control.
02:08:33.000 Thank you.
02:08:33.000 They're controlling the way these children see the world, and they're forcing compliance to this one ideology, whereas school is supposed to be about ideas competing.
02:08:45.000 Yes.
02:08:45.000 It's supposed to be the battleground of ideas, and you're supposed to be uncomfortable, and you're supposed to learn from things in these uncomfortable environments where people discuss things, and you get to hear one person's perspective versus another person's perspective.
02:08:57.000 Is there nothing more exciting if we had four or five of us and we have all different views and we're just hanging out and we're just talking and, you know, I'm not really into what this one's saying, but like, you know what?
02:09:09.000 I get it.
02:09:11.000 I get where you're at.
02:09:12.000 It doesn't exist anymore.
02:09:14.000 No.
02:09:14.000 It doesn't exist very often in very many places.
02:09:16.000 I try to be as open-minded as possible with things while still having my own opinions.
02:09:21.000 Yeah.
02:09:22.000 But I try to...
02:09:22.000 I really do.
02:09:23.000 As much as I get criticized of not doing that, that is...
02:09:26.000 It's hard.
02:09:26.000 It's hard to do.
02:09:27.000 I don't always do it the best.
02:09:29.000 But I've listened to you.
02:09:30.000 I think you do a damn good job.
02:09:32.000 I'm not blowing smoke up people.
02:09:33.000 I try.
02:09:34.000 I really do.
02:09:35.000 We all do.
02:09:36.000 It's my idea.
02:09:37.000 Yeah.
02:09:37.000 Excuse me.
02:09:38.000 It's my intent to...
02:09:41.000 Listen and try to understand other people's perspective while also being rational, but also recognizing cult thinking.
02:09:49.000 There's a lot of cult-like thinking going on, and that's what woke America is.
02:09:55.000 Being woke is a cult.
02:09:57.000 It doesn't mean being compassionate is a cult, being kind and considerate and open-minded and inclusive.
02:10:03.000 All those things are wonderful.
02:10:04.000 That's great.
02:10:05.000 It's good for everybody.
02:10:06.000 I'm a...
02:10:07.000 Very open-minded person.
02:10:09.000 Very inclusive person.
02:10:10.000 I want everybody to be happy.
02:10:11.000 I know that I'm different than other people.
02:10:14.000 I know there's music I like that's different.
02:10:15.000 There's activities I like that's different.
02:10:17.000 I don't want you to like the things I like.
02:10:19.000 You don't have to.
02:10:20.000 Let's just be nice to each other and be respectful, decent human beings.
02:10:24.000 It's not that hard.
02:10:25.000 But that's not what's being promoted today.
02:10:27.000 What's being promoted today is either you think the way I think or you're a bigot.
02:10:31.000 That's dangerous because you're getting kids to think that they have to think a certain way or they'll be ostracized and to be a rebel to stand out against this woke shit that they're teaching it puts you in a very vulnerable position socially Very vulnerable position for people that are at their most vulnerable in life.
02:10:51.000 Young people that are trying to find themselves and they're trying to fit in.
02:10:55.000 They want social credibility.
02:10:57.000 They want people to like them.
02:10:59.000 And you have a very hard road if you don't toe the line and follow the ideology that's being pushed predominantly.
02:11:08.000 Today.
02:11:09.000 It's no different than following that white tiger in leather pants, just a different ideology.
02:11:13.000 But you're following the same thing.
02:11:15.000 It's very similar.
02:11:17.000 Blindly.
02:11:17.000 Yeah, it's very similar.
02:11:19.000 People really do love to be a part of a group where you're accepted and appreciated.
02:11:25.000 I know.
02:11:26.000 I'm chilly.
02:11:27.000 You're chilly?
02:11:28.000 Really?
02:11:29.000 I get chilly a lot.
02:11:30.000 My hands get chilly.
02:11:31.000 What's going on, man?
02:11:31.000 Is that a post-COVID thing?
02:11:33.000 It could be.
02:11:33.000 Do you have COVID toes?
02:11:36.000 I got COVID, Terry, and I got COVID eyes.
02:11:39.000 My eyes get all chopped.
02:11:41.000 Yeah, it's fucking weird, man.
02:11:42.000 I started wanting to learn how to hunt.
02:11:46.000 Yeah?
02:11:46.000 I literally wanted to hunt.
02:11:48.000 When the food was scarce?
02:11:49.000 No.
02:11:50.000 I started going, are we going to go into an area where we have to tap out?
02:11:59.000 And this whole thing just made me think of everything differently.
02:12:02.000 Like, if...
02:12:04.000 If governments, because at the end of the day it's governments, are able to pull the rug on everything you possess, all your work, everything, and say where you can walk, how close you can stand next to each other, and as much as we believe that would never exist,
02:12:26.000 are you prepped for, God forbid, The electric grid is turned off.
02:12:35.000 And then you want to talk about chaos.
02:12:37.000 Yeah.
02:12:38.000 Wow!
02:12:38.000 Well, we came four minutes away from that here in Texas.
02:12:42.000 The electric grid almost went down.
02:12:44.000 When the power grid was really vulnerable because of the cold, because everybody was trying to heat their house up, and everybody had the power on, it almost collapsed.
02:12:55.000 And that made me realize, wow!
02:13:01.000 And it's really funny because my wife, who's in the Lord world, she found Jesus years ago.
02:13:09.000 She's not like, hey, read the Bible, tell Joe, make sure he finds it.
02:13:11.000 She's not like that.
02:13:12.000 But that's her base, right?
02:13:14.000 Where I'm more spiritual and...
02:13:18.000 I remember I was going with a friend of mine.
02:13:20.000 He's like, you want to learn to hunt?
02:13:22.000 He's teaching me guns and all this stuff.
02:13:24.000 I said, I want to start learning to hunt.
02:13:26.000 Not only hunt, but I want to...
02:13:27.000 New Jersey's actually a good place to learn to hunt.
02:13:29.000 There's a lot of deer.
02:13:30.000 Tons of deer.
02:13:31.000 A lot of bear.
02:13:32.000 A lot of bear.
02:13:33.000 I think they stopped the bear hunt for a while.
02:13:35.000 I don't know if I'd kill a bear.
02:13:36.000 I don't know if I'd kill an animal yet.
02:13:38.000 Yeah, you could.
02:13:39.000 I know.
02:13:39.000 Trust me.
02:13:40.000 I'm sure I can.
02:13:42.000 You could.
02:13:43.000 I'd have to indie it, Joe.
02:13:44.000 No, if I needed it, I could do it.
02:13:47.000 You'd have to Indian it?
02:13:48.000 Yeah, meaning like, I'm sorry, the spirit world, I'm going to eat you.
02:13:52.000 I'm so sorry I had to take your life.
02:13:54.000 I'll make sure it's done well.
02:13:55.000 You know what I mean?
02:13:55.000 That's what I mean.
02:13:56.000 I get it.
02:13:57.000 Give it blessings.
02:13:58.000 I don't know if I personally can take out an animal yet...
02:14:05.000 But I booked it, right?
02:14:08.000 I booked it.
02:14:09.000 We were going to go on a hog hunt.
02:14:10.000 Oh, that's a good one to go on.
02:14:11.000 Yeah, we're going to go on a hog hunt.
02:14:13.000 Where are you going?
02:14:13.000 Tennessee.
02:14:14.000 Oh, okay.
02:14:15.000 But I got my first gig booked the week we were supposed to go.
02:14:21.000 I was like, listen, man, I haven't had money in a long time, which also changed my world, too.
02:14:27.000 I don't have...
02:14:29.000 I don't have the means to go.
02:14:31.000 I don't need to work.
02:14:32.000 Right.
02:14:32.000 You have to work.
02:14:33.000 This one's in private.
02:14:34.000 This one's in college.
02:14:37.000 Thank God I was able to go as long as I did without it.
02:14:41.000 Yeah.
02:14:43.000 But I went, you know what?
02:14:44.000 I want to know, God forbid, I can take this thing.
02:14:49.000 He's like, oh, bro, I'll bring it in.
02:14:50.000 Okay, it was all hooked up, and I remember having dinner with my wife, and we're with another couple, and we're sitting there, and if I have two drinks, I'm happy, and I'm chatterbox.
02:15:02.000 And I'm sitting there, and they're like, yeah, you know, I didn't meet, and I went, oh my god, I'm going for my first hunt.
02:15:08.000 And Dee goes, what'd you say?
02:15:10.000 I said, Frank's bringing me on.
02:15:13.000 I'm going to learn how to show you.
02:15:14.000 She's like, no, you're not.
02:15:15.000 I went, yeah, I am.
02:15:17.000 I said, I'm not killing it.
02:15:19.000 I'm just going to watch.
02:15:24.000 I'm just going to watch and I'm going to learn how to cut it.
02:15:28.000 But no, I want to learn to cut the animal, stock the meat.
02:15:34.000 How do you stock the meat?
02:15:36.000 Am I able to eat this down the road?
02:15:38.000 Am I able to...
02:15:39.000 I want to learn how to fish all to survive, not to...
02:15:45.000 And I really want to start getting into that, bro.
02:15:47.000 I really want to start getting into that.
02:15:50.000 People don't...
02:15:51.000 Oh, so what I was going to say was, so two weeks later, it gets blown out of the water, and I told Dee, I'm like, Dee, listen to me.
02:16:02.000 The reason why I was doing that, I said, I'm going to be dead honest with you.
02:16:05.000 Because there's a little part of me that's freaked out.
02:16:08.000 I'm going to be blatantly honest.
02:16:09.000 There's a little part of me freaked out.
02:16:10.000 I don't know where this world is going.
02:16:11.000 If you told me the world's going to shut down and tell you what to do and think and blah, blah, blah.
02:16:15.000 I said, I saw this years ago, but now it's intense.
02:16:18.000 Now it's getting intense.
02:16:20.000 I go, I want to know.
02:16:24.000 And she goes, Jim.
02:16:26.000 I'll be killing the animal and I'll be skinning the animal and so will your youngest daughter.
02:16:31.000 And she made me belly laugh so hard because she was dead serious.
02:16:36.000 My wife...
02:16:37.000 So why didn't she want you to go hunt?
02:16:40.000 She just thought, she's like, you don't need to learn that right now.
02:16:43.000 You're doing it at Fiat, but I want to.
02:16:45.000 Listen to me.
02:16:45.000 I'm listening.
02:16:46.000 Listen to me.
02:16:46.000 Hunting is not easy.
02:16:47.000 It's not something you just do.
02:16:49.000 You've got to learn how to do it.
02:16:50.000 And it takes a long time.
02:16:52.000 I've been doing it for almost a decade.
02:16:54.000 It takes a long time.
02:16:55.000 I'm barely good at it.
02:16:57.000 If I'm on my own, it's hit or miss.
02:16:59.000 I use guides to help me.
02:17:01.000 I use guides to show me where it's the best place and I learn from them.
02:17:05.000 Just like when I did martial arts, I used coaches and I learned.
02:17:10.000 I'm a good listener.
02:17:14.000 I'm a good student.
02:17:15.000 Everything I know about hunting, I know from my friends that taught me how to hunt.
02:17:19.000 My friends like Cam Haynes and John Dudley and Steve Rinella.
02:17:23.000 They taught me how, and then I learned from guides, and I do it that way because I'm humble, and I'm open-minded, and I know what I can do and what I can't do by myself.
02:17:36.000 I have a limited amount of time.
02:17:38.000 The amount of information that you have to know to be good at hunting is staggering.
02:17:45.000 It's not simple.
02:17:46.000 You have to be physically fit.
02:17:48.000 No.
02:17:48.000 Because the animals are fucking smart and they go in the woods and they hide.
02:17:51.000 They go in the mountains, they go in high altitude.
02:17:55.000 Elk, generally, they're not a high altitude animal.
02:17:58.000 They used to be on the plains.
02:17:59.000 The problem is people came along and so they relocated to the mountains because they know it's hard for us to get around.
02:18:05.000 They've figured these things out.
02:18:06.000 If you want to be a successful hunter, you've got to learn how to do it.
02:18:10.000 This idea that once civilization collapses, oh, then I'll learn hunting.
02:18:14.000 The fuck you will.
02:18:15.000 The fuck you will.
02:18:17.000 You ain't going to learn shit.
02:18:18.000 And you need someone to show you how to do it.
02:18:21.000 And that's why I want to start learning now.
02:18:24.000 And I also know, just like...
02:18:26.000 On a completely different way, golfing.
02:18:29.000 If you're going to learn to golf...
02:18:30.000 Yeah, you need to learn.
02:18:31.000 You need to go with guys that aren't intense.
02:18:34.000 They're willing to teach you.
02:18:35.000 So with this hunting, I still...
02:18:38.000 I'm going to go, but I want teachers.
02:18:42.000 You need a guide.
02:18:43.000 I know you're totally wet behind the ears.
02:18:47.000 And I'm going to show you everything.
02:18:49.000 You're going to have to learn a lot.
02:18:50.000 And you're also going to have to be fit.
02:18:52.000 It's not an easy thing to do, man.
02:18:54.000 Especially if you want to go after any animal that's a mountain animal.
02:18:58.000 It's fucking really hard.
02:19:00.000 And this is coming from a guy who's worked out his whole life.
02:19:03.000 Still, it's hard for me.
02:19:05.000 I have a guy who wants to take me to...
02:19:09.000 Bro, his name is Will Jamero.
02:19:13.000 He was in the World War II. He was trapped.
02:19:17.000 In the towers.
02:19:18.000 They did a whole movie on it.
02:19:19.000 He lives in my town.
02:19:21.000 The guy is an insane hunter.
02:19:24.000 He's full-blown.
02:19:25.000 How old is he?
02:19:27.000 He's like our age.
02:19:28.000 He was in World War II and he's our age.
02:19:30.000 What did I say?
02:19:30.000 World War II? Oh my god.
02:19:31.000 Twin Towers.
02:19:32.000 Jesus.
02:19:33.000 Okay, I didn't understand.
02:19:35.000 Will, I am so sorry.
02:19:36.000 You meant 9-11.
02:19:38.000 Yes, I meant 9-11.
02:19:39.000 Wow, I'm getting too much here.
02:19:42.000 That's 2001, Jim.
02:19:43.000 Wow!
02:19:43.000 Not 1940. I was like, how old is this guy?
02:19:46.000 He's our age.
02:19:47.000 I think your friend might be full of shit.
02:19:49.000 Whoa!
02:19:50.000 No, no, no.
02:19:51.000 I believe what I'm saying.
02:19:55.000 Imagine running into a guy who said, I was in World War II. I was in World War II. You're 40. That's right.
02:20:02.000 I'm 47. But it happened in 1942. That's right.
02:20:07.000 Well, I was there.
02:20:09.000 Goddamn Japanese.
02:20:10.000 I was in the Philippines.
02:20:12.000 But this guy, he shows me his stuff, and he tells me to say he spends two weeks in the middle of nowhere.
02:20:20.000 No!
02:20:21.000 One of the backpack guys?
02:20:22.000 Oh yeah!
02:20:23.000 He's intense!
02:20:24.000 I have a few buddies that do that.
02:20:26.000 They do solo.
02:20:26.000 My friend Adam Greentree, he does these long solo hunts where he'll go into the mountains for fucking...
02:20:32.000 He did one where he did it all and documented a lot of it on Instagram.
02:20:36.000 We followed along and got a bunch of other people to follow him along too.
02:20:39.000 But he was by himself with solar chargers to charge his cell phone in the mountains.
02:20:44.000 It took 28 days.
02:20:46.000 Until he was successful.
02:20:47.000 Camping out in the woods, and he had multiple encounters with a grizzly bear.
02:20:52.000 One of them where he's getting charged, and he's pointing a pistol at her.
02:20:56.000 She had her cubs, and she was trying to scare him off.
02:21:00.000 So she would charge at him and stop like 10 yards away from him.
02:21:04.000 Like, fucking hair, standing straight up, teeth gnashing.
02:21:09.000 You know, 600-pound grizzly bear, full charge.
02:21:14.000 Men I hear...
02:21:20.000 No way.
02:21:21.000 No way.
02:21:21.000 It's dangerous.
02:21:22.000 Have you ever dealt with that?
02:21:24.000 I've never dealt with a charging grizzly bear, but I saw a grizzly bear once.
02:21:28.000 It stared at me in a way that I've never had an animal stare at me.
02:21:32.000 Because most animals...
02:21:34.000 I've never encountered a cougar...
02:21:36.000 Or a mountain lion in the woods.
02:21:38.000 I've seen them twice.
02:21:39.000 Once in Santa Barbara, just driving.
02:21:42.000 I saw one on the street, ran across the road.
02:21:44.000 I didn't realize what it was until it got halfway across the road.
02:21:48.000 I saw its tail.
02:21:49.000 And I'm like, oh my god, that's a cat.
02:21:51.000 And I realized, oh shit, that's a mountain lion.
02:21:53.000 And that was in the Montecito area of Santa Barbara.
02:21:56.000 And then another time I saw one that wasn't as clear in Colorado.
02:22:00.000 It was a tan thing moving through the woods very quickly.
02:22:03.000 And I go, oh shit, that's a cat.
02:22:05.000 But that was less clear than the Santa Barbara one.
02:22:07.000 But I've never seen one eye-to-eye where I was looking at it and it was looking at me.
02:22:11.000 But I did have that happen in Canada with a grizzly.
02:22:14.000 And it looked me right in the eye like this.
02:22:18.000 Black dead eyes.
02:22:19.000 And we had shotguns.
02:22:21.000 We were actually bow hunting, but we brought shotguns because we were moving into an area that did have grizzlies.
02:22:26.000 And it was spooky, man.
02:22:28.000 It wasn't even a big grizzly bear.
02:22:30.000 It was like a six-foot bear.
02:22:31.000 But the way it looked at you, man, it's a different way of looking at you.
02:22:36.000 They have a different feel.
02:22:37.000 Like any other animal.
02:22:39.000 Because they're looking at you like, is this what I'm eating today?
02:22:43.000 Because they're just looking for things to eat all the time.
02:22:46.000 They're...
02:22:47.000 Enormous predators.
02:22:48.000 Oh my gosh.
02:22:49.000 Yeah, so it was like not that big.
02:22:51.000 For a grizzly, it was like maybe six foot tall, maybe 250 pounds, maybe 300 pounds.
02:22:56.000 For a grizzly, it's not that big.
02:22:58.000 They get way, way bigger than that.
02:23:00.000 So this one looking at me...
02:23:02.000 But the darkness in its eyes, man, it's like shark eyes, like these black, cold, unfeeling, dark eyes.
02:23:10.000 It's so weird, man.
02:23:11.000 It's hard to explain when you lock eyes with a predator and they have the intention of eating you.
02:23:17.000 It is a weird fucking feeling, man.
02:23:20.000 We got out of there quick.
02:23:21.000 I was with a friend of mine.
02:23:24.000 Who's a guide.
02:23:26.000 Made a lot of noise.
02:23:27.000 Got out of the scene.
02:23:28.000 But it was weird.
02:23:30.000 It's weird to see.
02:23:31.000 I started...
02:23:32.000 I love scuba diving.
02:23:34.000 I want to get more intense with the scuba diving.
02:23:36.000 Oh, that's terrifying.
02:23:38.000 I love it.
02:23:38.000 That's their world.
02:23:40.000 That's their world.
02:23:41.000 At least the woods.
02:23:41.000 You walk on the ground, too.
02:23:44.000 And you can...
02:23:44.000 Correct.
02:23:45.000 Climb a tree.
02:23:46.000 But I saw a shark for the first time.
02:23:50.000 In the water?
02:23:51.000 Yeah.
02:23:51.000 Scuba diving?
02:23:52.000 Yes.
02:23:53.000 How far away?
02:23:56.000 It was far enough that I was not worried.
02:23:58.000 Do you have a spear gun?
02:23:59.000 No, nothing.
02:24:01.000 And so it's me and my daughter stopped, and just seeing the way it moves...
02:24:08.000 And the minute it knew we were there, it kind of stopped, and then it made a complete left and didn't want anything to do with us.
02:24:18.000 But just to see it moving like this, and it made me want to get more...
02:24:22.000 So I start following...
02:24:24.000 And then just like hunting and all that, you learn more and more and more.
02:24:28.000 You get good guides, and it changes the whole underworld.
02:24:31.000 And you realize most...
02:24:35.000 Shark attacks are surfers and snorkelers, because they like coming in from behind.
02:24:42.000 And they don't like facing you straight on.
02:24:46.000 They don't like that at all.
02:24:48.000 And some people that will, believe it or not, when a shark is coming to you, Most of the time, it's not coming to eat you.
02:24:59.000 It's coming to check you out at first.
02:25:01.000 And the real aggressive ones that will come towards you, very rarely they open their mouth to take a chomp because you don't know it's coming.
02:25:11.000 They're coming from behind.
02:25:12.000 As long as you face it, always face it.
02:25:16.000 You're so much safer.
02:25:18.000 And then if it does come to you, just kind of...
02:25:20.000 Nah, I haven't had that experience.
02:25:21.000 What are you doing, Aikido?
02:25:22.000 Yeah, you do this.
02:25:23.000 You push it.
02:25:25.000 You push it to the side.
02:25:26.000 And they're like, oh, I don't want to deal with you.
02:25:27.000 Have you seen that video recently?
02:25:28.000 I don't want to deal with you.
02:25:29.000 Recent video of this shark that's swimming straight at a guy and he spears it in the mouth?
02:25:34.000 No!
02:25:34.000 The thing is coming at him like 50 miles an hour.
02:25:37.000 It's crazy.
02:25:38.000 Straight on?
02:25:39.000 Straight on.
02:25:40.000 Coming full bore at him with its mouth open.
02:25:43.000 He shoves his spear gun in its mouth and pulls the trigger.
02:25:46.000 Great White?
02:25:47.000 I don't know what it was.
02:25:49.000 There's one...
02:25:50.000 You know the video.
02:25:51.000 Jamie's seen the video.
02:25:52.000 I see one where the guy...
02:25:54.000 A bull shark?
02:25:54.000 Bull sharks are nasty.
02:25:57.000 Watch this.
02:25:57.000 Them and tigers.
02:25:58.000 Watch this.
02:25:59.000 Okay.
02:26:00.000 So this guy's in there spearfishing.
02:26:02.000 Yeah.
02:26:02.000 And look at this motherfucker.
02:26:03.000 Oh!
02:26:04.000 Right at him.
02:26:05.000 He was coming right for him.
02:26:06.000 Right?
02:26:07.000 Full blast.
02:26:08.000 He was coming for him.
02:26:09.000 Yeah.
02:26:09.000 Look at that.
02:26:11.000 Shot him right in the mouth.
02:26:13.000 Good.
02:26:14.000 Wow!
02:26:15.000 I'm eating bull shark for the next couple months.
02:26:19.000 Isn't that nuts?
02:26:20.000 That's a dangerous animal.
02:26:21.000 Do you know the New Jersey story that inspired Jaws?
02:26:24.000 Do you know that story?
02:26:25.000 No.
02:26:26.000 Here's the thing about bull sharks.
02:26:27.000 Bull sharks swim upriver, so they swim in fresh water.
02:26:30.000 They found bull sharks as far north as Illinois.
02:26:34.000 What?
02:26:34.000 Yeah, bull sharks have made it as far north up the Mississippi River as Illinois.
02:26:40.000 They can swim hundreds of miles through fresh water.
02:26:43.000 So the attacks from the early 1900s that inspired the movie Jaws were actually attacks on a river.
02:26:49.000 It was a river that was in New Jersey.
02:26:52.000 Wow.
02:26:53.000 It was a series of people that were murdered by bull sharks.
02:26:57.000 They were killed by bull sharks.
02:26:58.000 I forget the river, but this is like early 1900s where they wore those goofy Popeye-style bathing suits.
02:27:05.000 They probably thought it was a seal or something.
02:27:07.000 No, they thought it was food.
02:27:08.000 They don't give a fuck.
02:27:10.000 It's just like you said with the grizzly bears.
02:27:12.000 Bull sharks are vicious.
02:27:13.000 And it's food.
02:27:14.000 But there's an area in Florida on the East Coast.
02:27:18.000 Where my friend went and dove with the nurse sharks?
02:27:23.000 Oh yeah, nurse sharks are peaceful.
02:27:26.000 Whale sharks?
02:27:26.000 I'm sorry, not nurse sharks.
02:27:28.000 Tiger sharks.
02:27:29.000 Oh, those are dangerous too.
02:27:30.000 And it's a breeding ground.
02:27:33.000 And this maniac, they jump in.
02:27:35.000 You pay a lot of money to go in there.
02:27:37.000 To almost die.
02:27:38.000 To almost die!
02:27:40.000 And they tell you, like, you gotta keep constantly...
02:27:43.000 No, I don't...
02:27:43.000 Why?
02:27:44.000 I don't want to do that.
02:27:45.000 But I will say this.
02:27:47.000 That's part of life I love.
02:27:48.000 Like, this summer, I have planned...
02:27:51.000 There's part of me that wants to tap out, Joe.
02:27:54.000 About what?
02:27:54.000 Tap out to what?
02:27:55.000 Just full-blown jungle society.
02:27:57.000 I know I'm not going to do it.
02:27:58.000 Like live in the woods?
02:27:59.000 Yeah.
02:28:00.000 Live off the land?
02:28:01.000 Costa Rica.
02:28:01.000 Ooh.
02:28:03.000 Costa Rica's nice.
02:28:04.000 Costa Rica.
02:28:05.000 Until things get lawless.
02:28:06.000 Then you realize, like, oh, I want the Constitution on my side.
02:28:09.000 And that's the danger.
02:28:12.000 That is the danger.
02:28:13.000 You got to go there.
02:28:14.000 You got to acquire enough money to have your own military.
02:28:17.000 And then...
02:28:21.000 You're right, man.
02:28:22.000 You gotta acquire enormous amounts of money and then pay a bunch of trained killers very well.
02:28:28.000 Yes!
02:28:28.000 And to guard your community.
02:28:30.000 And then bring in a bunch of other friends.
02:28:32.000 Everybody chips in and make sure you got a lot of bullets.
02:28:34.000 And no one goes too far.
02:28:35.000 You never went on a safari or anything like that?
02:28:38.000 No.
02:28:38.000 No, I've never been on safaris.
02:28:40.000 I'm gonna go with the gorillas this summer.
02:28:42.000 Yeah?
02:28:42.000 I can't wait.
02:28:43.000 Where are you going?
02:28:44.000 Uganda.
02:28:45.000 Zimbabwe.
02:28:46.000 Holy shit.
02:28:46.000 Tanzania.
02:28:47.000 Wow.
02:28:49.000 That's intense.
02:28:50.000 I would go.
02:28:50.000 I would certainly go.
02:28:52.000 The thing is, children are not supposed to take those fucking malaria shots.
02:28:55.000 It's really...
02:28:56.000 They can be really rough.
02:28:58.000 Yeah, but they can be rough.
02:29:00.000 The malaria medication can be very, very rough on kids.
02:29:03.000 And the last thing you want is your kid to get fucking malaria.
02:29:06.000 I have a buddy who's got malaria three times.
02:29:09.000 Where does he live?
02:29:10.000 Well, he works for...
02:29:11.000 He has a non-profit called Fight for the Forgotten.
02:29:14.000 His name's Justin Wren.
02:29:15.000 He's a great guy.
02:29:16.000 Like, one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life.
02:29:18.000 And he builds wells for the pygmies.
02:29:23.000 He's doing it in Uganda, and he also did it in the Congo, and he got malaria three fucking times.
02:29:31.000 And one time he got malaria when he wasn't even there.
02:29:35.000 He got malaria because he got weakened and sick, and then the malaria kicked in again, so it was dormant in his body.
02:29:41.000 He also got some crazy fucking brain parasite that fucked with him.
02:29:46.000 It was a parasite that it was very difficult for them to even identify at first.
02:29:52.000 They didn't know what it was.
02:29:53.000 So they had to give him all this medication and it lasted for fucking months and months and months.
02:29:58.000 And he went to all these different specialists and he's just now coming out of the fog of it.
02:30:04.000 But it was, I forget the exact term that he used or what this parasite was, but it had worked its way through his system and it was some sort of a cerebral parasite.
02:30:18.000 It was in his gut, it was in his body, it was in everywhere.
02:30:21.000 It was real bad.
02:30:23.000 Cancel the trip to Africa immediately, please.
02:30:25.000 Yeah, but he was deep in the jungle, like living in a hut with the pygmies, deep in the Congo.
02:30:33.000 And also bathing in the river, which is fucking dangerous.
02:30:37.000 That's the big danger.
02:30:39.000 I was there years ago, and we came on this beautiful island.
02:30:47.000 And there are no predators on the island, but they said, don't go in the water.
02:30:52.000 I'm like, but this water's huge.
02:30:54.000 They're like, don't go swimming.
02:30:57.000 Like, why not?
02:30:58.000 Parasites all over the place.
02:31:00.000 They'll swim up your dick.
02:31:02.000 To tap down.
02:31:04.000 You know about that?
02:31:04.000 Yes, tap down.
02:31:05.000 No way.
02:31:06.000 Swim up your dick.
02:31:07.000 In your penis hole.
02:31:09.000 In the hole.
02:31:09.000 In your dick hole.
02:31:10.000 That's where they want to camp out.
02:31:11.000 That's their cave.
02:31:12.000 Oh, God.
02:31:19.000 I'm making all this up.
02:31:28.000 That's why I don't even want to go to a hospital.
02:31:30.000 In the Amazon, they do swim up your dick hole.
02:31:33.000 Yes.
02:31:35.000 One of my biggest fears is if I go to the hospital and I'm out, I know I don't want to...
02:31:42.000 That's the dick fish.
02:31:43.000 That's the dick fish.
02:31:44.000 Ew, it goes in your dick.
02:31:45.000 Yeah, how do you say that name, Jamie?
02:31:48.000 Candiru.
02:31:49.000 Candiru?
02:31:49.000 It sounds like that.
02:31:50.000 Candida, which is also very bad, but that's sugar.
02:31:53.000 The fish, yeah, that's Candida, right?
02:31:56.000 The fish with a bad rep for human private parts parasitation.
02:32:02.000 So that, look how big it is.
02:32:04.000 Imagine if that thing's clogging up your pee hole.
02:32:06.000 You'd have to jerk off to get rid of it.
02:32:08.000 Look at this guy.
02:32:08.000 That's what he's doing right there.
02:32:09.000 Blast him out.
02:32:10.000 Yes!
02:32:11.000 He's trying to blast him out right now.
02:32:13.000 Boom, boom, boom.
02:32:14.000 You have to save your loads up for several weeks and then drown it.
02:32:20.000 What are you doing over there?
02:32:22.000 It's a flood to drown them.
02:32:24.000 Yeah, but they swim up your dickhole.
02:32:26.000 Apparently, if you pee in the water, they're attracted.
02:32:29.000 What is that?
02:32:30.000 I thought it was a surgery.
02:32:33.000 Is that an x-ray?
02:32:33.000 It looks like from a surgery.
02:32:34.000 Oh, my God.
02:32:35.000 Oh my god, that big thing was inside that guy's dick?
02:32:38.000 I can't.
02:32:38.000 It swims up your urine stream.
02:32:41.000 How size is this guy's donkey?
02:32:42.000 That's a big donkey.
02:32:43.000 It's a giant hog.
02:32:44.000 I don't got anything close to that.
02:32:45.000 Super giant hog, and that thing's inside of it.
02:32:48.000 It's terrifying.
02:32:49.000 I don't want to go to hospital.
02:32:50.000 It's just because I don't want a catheter in it.
02:32:51.000 I get it.
02:32:52.000 Look at that one.
02:32:53.000 Oh my god.
02:32:54.000 That's not it.
02:32:54.000 That's what it reminds me of.
02:32:56.000 What is that?
02:32:56.000 It's a different...
02:32:57.000 Someone might have stuck something up or something.
02:32:59.000 Oh, he stuck a fucking bottle opener up his...
02:33:01.000 That looks like a fork.
02:33:02.000 He stuck a fork up his cock hole.
02:33:04.000 How fucked up do you gotta be?
02:33:06.000 My buddy Steve Graham used to work, he's an ophthalmologist, and he did his residency in Miami during the cocaine days, during the 1980s.
02:33:13.000 The 80s?
02:33:14.000 Oh my god, yeah.
02:33:15.000 And he showed me a ton of pictures.
02:33:17.000 But they had people that had everything up their asshole.
02:33:21.000 Like G.I. Joe dolls.
02:33:24.000 One guy, you know one of them curly pine cone looking light bulbs?
02:33:28.000 Yes!
02:33:28.000 One guy shoved one of those up his ass.
02:33:30.000 It shattered in his ass.
02:33:32.000 Is that a crazy thing?
02:33:36.000 Do you have to be homosexual?
02:33:39.000 No.
02:33:40.000 That's just a crazy thing, right?
02:33:42.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
02:33:42.000 You've lost your mind now.
02:33:43.000 Sexual preference.
02:33:44.000 Right?
02:33:45.000 You're past the sexual preference.
02:33:47.000 You're like, we're just going to start.
02:33:49.000 Go get the fucking chair!
02:33:51.000 You ever seen the guy that had, there's a video that was going around the internet a while back of a guy with a mason jar, one of those glass mason jars, you know, that people would drink, like, lemonade out of?
02:34:00.000 You know those mason jars?
02:34:01.000 He shoved it up his asshole and then it shattered.
02:34:04.000 What?
02:34:05.000 Yeah, it shattered.
02:34:06.000 And then the glass chunk...
02:34:08.000 This guy's squatting.
02:34:09.000 Voluntarily!
02:34:09.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:34:10.000 He's doing it on purpose.
02:34:11.000 The glass chunks were dropping out of his asshole with blood, just falling to the ground.
02:34:17.000 It was one of the most hardcore videos.
02:34:20.000 This is back in the Style Project days.
02:34:24.000 This is back in like, there was a website called Style Project, like way back in the 90s, maybe the early 2000s, that had like the most hardcore shit.
02:34:34.000 Bro.
02:34:34.000 This guy, Style, would find everything fucked up.
02:34:37.000 And then there was another website called Body Modification Extreme, BME Extreme.
02:34:42.000 Oh my god.
02:34:43.000 And it was all like the most wild shit that people were doing to their bodies.
02:34:48.000 But around the Two Girls One Cup days, people were shoving all kinds of things up their ass, and this guy shoved, it was like a glass jar up his ass, and it shattered.
02:35:01.000 And the chunks of glass falling out of his ass with blood, right?
02:35:05.000 Because he's bleeding internally.
02:35:06.000 He's probably dead.
02:35:07.000 What do you want?
02:35:08.000 You want to start shoving shit in our ass, Joe?
02:35:11.000 Like, how do you get to that point?
02:35:13.000 How do you go...
02:35:14.000 That's a good question.
02:35:15.000 Let's start with...
02:35:16.000 Let's just start with the ashtray.
02:35:19.000 You know, people probably would say that about me with tattoos.
02:35:21.000 Like, how do you get to your arms are sleeved up in tattoos?
02:35:24.000 Yeah, but they're not up your ass.
02:35:25.000 I know, but you see what I'm saying?
02:35:26.000 Like, then it gets to face tattoos.
02:35:27.000 Then it gets to, like, dick tattoos.
02:35:29.000 And maybe some people get their nipples pierced.
02:35:31.000 And then next thing you know, they want to stuff things in their ass.
02:35:34.000 Maybe it feels good.
02:35:35.000 So they stuff more.
02:35:36.000 Maybe they hate themselves.
02:35:37.000 So they put a mason jar up there.
02:35:41.000 No.
02:35:42.000 I fucking hate myself!
02:35:44.000 It's one of the worst videos I've ever seen, though, because he's squatting, and you hear the crack of a glass, like a glass shattering inside a bag, like a meat bag.
02:35:56.000 Like the glass...
02:35:57.000 Yeah.
02:35:58.000 And then you hear clunk, clunk, and then drip, drip.
02:36:01.000 Got it?
02:36:03.000 I'm digging into this.
02:36:04.000 I am not going to encourage these videos.
02:36:08.000 1855. What?
02:36:10.000 The story of swimming up a penis, urethra.
02:36:13.000 That was the first documented one?
02:36:15.000 According to this article, there's only one modern case that's been documented, and it was in 1997. That's all I need.
02:36:22.000 That's all I need, too.
02:36:23.000 I don't need a whole ton of people getting dickfish.
02:36:25.000 Just one is enough for me not to be in that river.
02:36:29.000 If it's real, it's real.
02:36:30.000 You know what I mean?
02:36:31.000 It's like, whoa, there's no worries.
02:36:33.000 You just double mask your penis.
02:36:35.000 I just kept looking for pictures, and then one of them started saying, like, myth, this isn't real.
02:36:38.000 It's 90% myth.
02:36:40.000 It's just...
02:36:41.000 And then I started trying to figure it out.
02:36:42.000 Just because it's rare doesn't mean it's not real.
02:36:44.000 That's the same stupid logic that people use when it comes to bear attacks or shark attacks.
02:36:50.000 Like, it's so rare.
02:36:51.000 The odds of you getting struck by lightning are far higher.
02:36:55.000 It's still a possibility.
02:36:57.000 Yeah, just push that fish away.
02:36:59.000 Aikido style.
02:37:00.000 Ha!
02:37:00.000 Like you're the fucking karate instructor in Napoleon Dynamite.
02:37:04.000 That's the other thing I wanted to do.
02:37:05.000 Break the wrist.
02:37:06.000 Walk away.
02:37:06.000 That's the other thing I was going to...
02:37:08.000 So I was hunting, and I was going to try to learn...
02:37:11.000 Jiu-Jitsu, right?
02:37:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:37:13.000 I'm like, I'm too old, man.
02:37:14.000 You're not too old.
02:37:15.000 Anthony Bourdain didn't start until he was like 58. Really?
02:37:17.000 Yeah.
02:37:18.000 Because I think that would put me in insane shape.
02:37:21.000 Yeah, it will.
02:37:22.000 My biggest fear is just some punk.
02:37:24.000 Mm-hmm.
02:37:25.000 And I'm like, I'm really not asking for this, bro.
02:37:27.000 Yeah.
02:37:28.000 I just want to get my car.
02:37:30.000 Yeah.
02:37:30.000 Just want to get out of here.
02:37:31.000 I got my wife with me.
02:37:33.000 I just watch someone taking me.
02:37:34.000 That's like my biggest...
02:37:35.000 Because the old days of just giving you a kick or a punch or running...
02:37:41.000 And when these kids get on top of you, it's like I have an alligator on you.
02:37:46.000 So there is a pup, but it's hard to find where that place is.
02:37:52.000 What do you mean?
02:37:53.000 A martial arts place?
02:37:54.000 I could find you that.
02:37:55.000 A real good one in Jersey.
02:37:56.000 Oh, I could find you that.
02:37:57.000 I can find you that.
02:37:58.000 Jersey.
02:37:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:37:59.000 I'm sure there's a place near you.
02:38:01.000 No, listen, I'm sure within a drive, within a normal drive, there's a good place near you.
02:38:06.000 Within an hour?
02:38:07.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:38:07.000 I guarantee you.
02:38:09.000 100%.
02:38:09.000 I would love to do that.
02:38:10.000 How far are you from the city?
02:38:12.000 Oh, good.
02:38:13.000 I don't want anything to...
02:38:14.000 No, you don't have to go to the city, but how far are you?
02:38:16.000 I'm an hour.
02:38:16.000 Oh, then 1,000%.
02:38:18.000 There's somewhere near you that will be good.
02:38:21.000 There's a lot of good places in New Jersey.
02:38:23.000 There's plenty of good jiu-jitsu.
02:38:25.000 Jiu-jitsu is so widespread now.
02:38:27.000 Listen, it's a great thing to learn just for your mental health because it's exhausting and it just makes you feel good when you get out of there.
02:38:34.000 You're relaxed, you know?
02:38:35.000 Well, not only that, it's part of a...
02:38:39.000 Years and years and years and years ago, whatever, I would train with these guys.
02:38:43.000 There were green berets.
02:38:44.000 I was a kid, right?
02:38:46.000 But one of the most fascinating parts about it, which I'll never forget, which I think saved my life one day, Was this one guy, Sensei Romeo.
02:38:58.000 He would give these long...
02:38:59.000 He was a little guy, but he had these intense piercing eyes with these black freaking eyebrows, right?
02:39:05.000 And he would talk about the true warrior knows how to avoid and use your mind...
02:39:13.000 Before the physical, if you can avoid the physical and tear down your enemy with the mind...
02:39:21.000 How are you going to do that?
02:39:22.000 Well, check this out.
02:39:23.000 Okay.
02:39:24.000 So, I just remember him talking about if you know you're not going to win it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:39:29.000 So, cut to...
02:39:31.000 This is weird, Joe.
02:39:35.000 I'm in Denver, Colorado with my dad.
02:39:38.000 My dad's getting his 80s, and I bring him around a lot.
02:39:42.000 I know he's getting me around a lot, but I love having my dad around.
02:39:46.000 So my dad, he's having a blast.
02:39:49.000 This one day, and I meditate a lot.
02:39:52.000 Do you?
02:39:53.000 Yeah, meditate, pray, whatever.
02:39:54.000 What kind of meditation do you do?
02:39:57.000 I just silence.
02:39:57.000 I'll sit...
02:39:58.000 Today I walked along the river, sat down, and I ask, whatever you want me to think, whatever you want me to put out there, what do you want me to do?
02:40:09.000 And then I'm silent, and then whatever comes in, and that's what I do.
02:40:14.000 I go on a Did you learn how to do this or did you just do it on your own?
02:40:18.000 Did you learn a method?
02:40:20.000 I did it on my own.
02:40:22.000 Sometimes I'll listen to Indian flute music, Native American music.
02:40:30.000 But I've done this a long...
02:40:34.000 It's helped me tremendously move in time.
02:40:38.000 Tremendously.
02:40:42.000 So on this one particular day...
02:40:46.000 I go to the gym.
02:40:47.000 I'm working out in the gym.
02:40:48.000 Don't ask me why.
02:40:51.000 I was on the bench, and I was the only one in there, and I'm sitting there, and I just started zoning out, and Sensei Romeo, his whole speech, and I'm going, why am I thinking of him right now?
02:41:04.000 This is weird.
02:41:06.000 So as I'm thinking of him, he starts, I see that whole speech about you never know, and you have to avoid, and when you attack, and it's more learning your, all this jazz, right?
02:41:19.000 Cut to...
02:41:22.000 That night, after the show, the whole staff is like, hey, you want to go to, you know, we're all going to go out.
02:41:31.000 Let's bring your dad out.
02:41:31.000 It's my last night.
02:41:33.000 And they probably have room for one more drink because it's a late show.
02:41:36.000 So we go there.
02:41:37.000 We're in downtown Denver.
02:41:39.000 We have the whole table in the...
02:41:42.000 There's a glass thing looking in the street.
02:41:45.000 I was sitting there in a bar, guys, to my right.
02:41:49.000 I wonder if he's the setup.
02:41:50.000 I don't know.
02:41:51.000 He might have been the setup, the more I think about it.
02:41:53.000 I don't understand where this guy came and how he knew where I was.
02:41:58.000 All of a sudden, this huge biker...
02:42:04.000 I mean, he's got the...
02:42:06.000 He doesn't have brass knuckles, but he's got shit around his knuckles, so clearly he's ready to use them.
02:42:15.000 He's about six foot something, and he sees me in the glass window, and he walks in, and he leans over...
02:42:23.000 My father's right here.
02:42:24.000 He leans over my father and grabs me.
02:42:27.000 He's like, fucking outside!
02:42:29.000 Right fucking now!
02:42:30.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
02:42:32.000 You don't know this guy at all?
02:42:34.000 No, but right now I have no clue who this human being is.
02:42:38.000 Right.
02:42:38.000 No fucking clue.
02:42:40.000 Okay.
02:42:40.000 I said, okay, okay, okay, relax, you ready?
02:42:42.000 He goes, I was at the fucking show.
02:42:45.000 You disrespected my family outside.
02:42:47.000 I'm going...
02:42:50.000 What the fuck is this guy?
02:42:51.000 But my biggest concern right now is not this guy.
02:42:56.000 It's my dad having a heart attack.
02:42:59.000 Right.
02:43:00.000 Because my dad will get up.
02:43:01.000 He's a World War II vet.
02:43:02.000 He don't give a shit.
02:43:04.000 Right.
02:43:04.000 He's going to die.
02:43:06.000 That's my concern.
02:43:07.000 I've got to protect him.
02:43:08.000 Now, the whole staff is like, but the more they want to get involved, the angrier he got.
02:43:15.000 So I was like, hey, hey, hey.
02:43:17.000 You want to talk?
02:43:18.000 We'll go outside and we'll talk.
02:43:20.000 I don't know why I was so calm.
02:43:22.000 To this day I don't know why I was so calm.
02:43:27.000 So, I go outside the front door.
02:43:29.000 I said, what's going on, man?
02:43:31.000 He goes, you fucking disrespect my family.
02:43:34.000 You disrespected my sister tonight.
02:43:36.000 You never fucking...
02:43:37.000 I said, okay.
02:43:38.000 Okay, I don't know what you're talking about, so you have to tell me what's going on here.
02:43:43.000 He goes, tonight, my sister passed out.
02:43:46.000 Now it's coming to me.
02:43:47.000 I know exactly what happened.
02:43:48.000 He was in the audience with his sister and a bunch of people, and during the show, all I heard was crash!
02:43:57.000 And everyone was like, and I could not see.
02:44:01.000 And I went, everything alright?
02:44:03.000 Everything alright?
02:44:04.000 What's going on?
02:44:06.000 I didn't know if there was a fight or whatever, and they're like, ah, she's drunk.
02:44:09.000 It was a woman on the floor.
02:44:10.000 I said, is she okay?
02:44:11.000 Is she alright?
02:44:12.000 I don't know if she's spasming.
02:44:14.000 I don't know what the fuck's going on.
02:44:15.000 So they lift her up, and I realize she's just drunk.
02:44:20.000 Okay, we're okay now.
02:44:23.000 Now people are starting like, I said, oh man.
02:44:28.000 Now I waited till they were long on their way out.
02:44:36.000 And all I said was, she is not going to have a good rest of the night.
02:44:41.000 I go, this is just the beginning.
02:44:43.000 I said, thank God she's okay, but this is just the beginning.
02:44:47.000 And I go off on a whole, I go on a character of what her events are going to be, and she needs to pull over, and she's out of the way, and the people, and they're howling.
02:45:00.000 Okay, so I'm crushing it now.
02:45:04.000 So it all comes to me, okay, this is the situation.
02:45:08.000 And he goes, my fucking sister, are you disrespected?
02:45:11.000 I said, okay.
02:45:15.000 Sensei Romeo goes, and I go like this, I go, Okay, I'm just going to explain one thing to you, and if you feel you still want to...
02:45:25.000 And dude, I swear to God, Joe, I looked to my right, and I said, okay, that's where I'm going to fall when he hits me, because he's clearly going to hit me.
02:45:34.000 And that's a little sharp right there, so...
02:45:38.000 It's all bricks.
02:45:40.000 And I'm looking at my dad.
02:45:42.000 And now my job, in my head, I went, I need to talk to him as long as I can until at least police arrive.
02:45:49.000 So when he does hit me, I have enough time to recover before he possibly kills me.
02:45:56.000 This is what's going on in my head.
02:45:59.000 And he goes, he said...
02:46:03.000 Well, he said, you know, disrespect my sister.
02:46:07.000 So I said, listen, what is your name?
02:46:10.000 He goes, John.
02:46:11.000 I said, John, okay.
02:46:13.000 If you remember tonight, the first thing I said is, is she okay?
02:46:18.000 Did I not ask about her health?
02:46:20.000 He goes, you did.
02:46:21.000 You fucking did.
02:46:23.000 I said, now, when I realized she was okay, did I make fun of her?
02:46:30.000 When we will walk us!
02:46:31.000 Hold on now.
02:46:32.000 Hold on now.
02:46:33.000 Remember, I waited till you started walking.
02:46:36.000 Now what you need to understand is that whole crowd pays a lot of money From my attention.
02:46:43.000 I go, now they're all staring at your sister.
02:46:47.000 They're staring at you.
02:46:49.000 They started saying things.
02:46:50.000 So now my job is to get that attention off you as you get her out into safety and then get it back on me.
02:47:00.000 Now I didn't say anything derogatory towards her.
02:47:03.000 I didn't call her a stupid bitch or a drunk whore.
02:47:05.000 All I said was, oh man, her night is just beginning.
02:47:11.000 It's gonna go from here to here and the more they left it was back on me and then and that this guy on my kids lives hope I die if I'm lying started crying and he goes could you talk to my wife and tell her I'm not going to jail tonight oh Jesus swear to God and I went sure He goes,
02:47:36.000 no man, it's cool that you just...
02:47:39.000 Because he was planning on hitting you and then going to jail.
02:47:43.000 Fucking me up to go to jail because of his drunk...
02:47:47.000 You almost called her a whore.
02:47:49.000 But I didn't!
02:47:55.000 And now I'm on the line with a female who's going...
02:48:00.000 Pretty much.
02:48:09.000 That's all I heard.
02:48:10.000 That's all I heard.
02:48:11.000 But...
02:48:12.000 Because of...
02:48:18.000 Whether it was the meditation, I truly believe it was the meditating or learning that experience of always check your surroundings.
02:48:25.000 I still do it.
02:48:26.000 I walk nonstop.
02:48:27.000 I'm always looking at my surroundings, what my exit route is.
02:48:32.000 If this person approaches me, how am I going to get out?
02:48:36.000 Nonstop.
02:48:37.000 And that's through...
02:48:39.000 Battle training.
02:48:40.000 But I feel like I need...
02:48:42.000 In my head!
02:48:43.000 You laugh at me, dude.
02:48:44.000 Battle training?
02:48:45.000 Whatever the fuck you call it.
02:48:47.000 You know what I mean.
02:48:47.000 It's always good to talk to people rather than get in fights with them.
02:48:50.000 What's that?
02:48:50.000 It's always good to talk to people rather than get in fights with them.
02:48:53.000 But that guy's extremely demanding.
02:48:56.000 That's preposterous.
02:48:57.000 But if you can't, in that scenario, if I didn't have the patience to talk to him and I was ready to fucking go down, I'm doomed.
02:49:04.000 I would have gotten fucking murdered.
02:49:06.000 So you want to learn how to fight?
02:49:07.000 I want to learn how to...
02:49:09.000 Defend yourself.
02:49:10.000 God forbid...
02:49:12.000 I can't talk out.
02:49:14.000 And I can take care.
02:49:16.000 I've been in brawls.
02:49:17.000 There's nothing more...
02:49:18.000 Brawls are not fun.
02:49:20.000 When you're hit from behind, and next thing you know, you're on the floor, and you gotta fucking curl up, and this jackass is trying to kick in, and you gotta hope you're...
02:49:28.000 It's all about panic.
02:49:31.000 You can't panic.
02:49:33.000 And once I was on the floor, and this guy's getting fucked up, and this guy's...
02:49:38.000 It's...
02:49:39.000 I don't think I'd ever be in that position because I was young.
02:49:42.000 But I think it's very important that everybody...
02:49:47.000 Like, that should be a course in school.
02:49:49.000 What the fuck are we learning about Ponce de Leon?
02:49:52.000 Who gives a shit?
02:49:58.000 How about we train them?
02:49:59.000 We're going to train how to battle, how to be in a position where you're attacked, blah, blah, blah.
02:50:06.000 Listen, most of that stuff is nonsense, which you really need to learn as a martial art.
02:50:11.000 Most of that, like when someone comes at you, you grab them here, and then you do this.
02:50:15.000 You don't train that.
02:50:16.000 You're not going to remember that.
02:50:17.000 No.
02:50:17.000 You need to learn concepts.
02:50:20.000 But it's good for everybody because it keeps people from being assholes.
02:50:24.000 Like when you really know how to fight, you're very rarely going to fight.
02:50:27.000 You're very rarely an asshole.
02:50:28.000 And that's what I was saying.
02:50:30.000 Once you learn it, I'm not going to be an asshole.
02:50:34.000 I just know what I'm capable of.
02:50:37.000 So why don't you do it?
02:50:38.000 I'll find you a school.
02:50:40.000 If you can find me...
02:50:41.000 I will 100% find you a school.
02:50:42.000 It's like, I don't want to find a bullshit guy who's like, I want to find...
02:50:46.000 You're like, Jim, I'm telling you right now, this person's...
02:50:49.000 No, no, no.
02:50:49.000 I'll tell you where I live.
02:50:50.000 Yeah.
02:50:51.000 Don't worry.
02:50:51.000 You already did.
02:50:52.000 I'll find you a place.
02:50:53.000 Here's the thing about jujitsu.
02:50:54.000 There's very few bullshit schools.
02:50:57.000 You can't survive.
02:50:58.000 People know whether or not it's real because...
02:51:01.000 Jiu-Jitsu is one of the only martial arts where everybody spars with everybody.
02:51:05.000 So you really know what a guy can do or what they can't do.
02:51:07.000 There's no questions.
02:51:09.000 You know, you have good days and bad days, but the reality is you know if your stuff is good because you actually spar.
02:51:16.000 You roll with people.
02:51:17.000 You try to strangle each other.
02:51:18.000 Right.
02:51:18.000 And there's no room for fake Jiu-Jitsu in this world.
02:51:23.000 There's a lot of fake martial arts.
02:51:25.000 Right.
02:51:25.000 There's a whole website.
02:51:27.000 There's a whole Instagram page called McDojo.
02:51:30.000 And McDojo is, was McDojo Life, right?
02:51:34.000 McDojo Life is an Instagram page that's all dedicated to fake martial arts.
02:51:39.000 And he's got fucking hundreds of videos of these people doing ridiculous shit that doesn't really work.
02:51:44.000 Right.
02:51:45.000 Because there's a lot of that out there, and they practice on each other, and the guy falls down and pretends to be hurt.
02:51:51.000 But jiu-jitsu doesn't have that.
02:51:53.000 Jiu-jitsu is...
02:51:54.000 I mean, maybe there's a fake jiu-jitsu school out there somewhere, but I don't think so anymore.
02:51:59.000 I think they've all been weeded out.
02:52:00.000 Bro, when I first saw...
02:52:02.000 What was it?
02:52:03.000 The Gracie guys?
02:52:04.000 Mm-hmm.
02:52:05.000 They were fighting animals.
02:52:07.000 Six foot nine...
02:52:07.000 They were like...
02:52:09.000 The minute they were on you...
02:52:11.000 There's nothing you can do about it.
02:52:12.000 Yeah, that's jiu-jitsu.
02:52:13.000 If someone doesn't understand jiu-jitsu and they get in a fight with someone who does, they're fucked.
02:52:17.000 You're fucked!
02:52:18.000 Yeah, you're fucked.
02:52:19.000 If a guy's good, he gets a clinch.
02:52:21.000 People don't realize how vulnerable they really are unless they're in an encounter with a trained martial artist.
02:52:27.000 Most people just think they're badasses.
02:52:29.000 Right!
02:52:29.000 You know, they just think, bro, I gotta fuck in my mentality.
02:52:33.000 They all say that.
02:52:35.000 You see my car?
02:52:36.000 Every guy says, I'll fucking see red, dude.
02:52:38.000 And then I don't give a fuck.
02:52:40.000 I don't care about myself.
02:52:41.000 I don't care about pain.
02:52:43.000 You're a person.
02:52:45.000 First of all, you're going to get tired really quick, stupid.
02:52:48.000 Bro, I took, just for cardio reasons, I went to this kickboxing guy years ago, just for cardio.
02:52:55.000 And what was cool about him, he's like, you want to, he goes, you actually hit me.
02:53:00.000 He goes, and I kind of like it.
02:53:02.000 He goes, would you want to come and spar one day?
02:53:04.000 Like, you know, we want to hate you.
02:53:05.000 I'm like, I fucking love that.
02:53:06.000 Only if we can hate you.
02:53:07.000 I don't want to do the fake shit.
02:53:08.000 He goes, yeah, let's do it.
02:53:09.000 Bro, I think 30 seconds, I was coughing up a lung...
02:53:16.000 I couldn't breathe after 30 seconds.
02:53:20.000 And I worked my way up to...
02:53:22.000 To 30 seconds?
02:53:24.000 45. But people don't realize...
02:53:29.000 How exhausting it is.
02:53:30.000 How exhausting.
02:53:31.000 Even just a fet...
02:53:32.000 There was times when he would hurt me, and then I'd just have to...
02:53:36.000 Cover up.
02:53:37.000 Cover up his...
02:53:37.000 And even that is so exhausting!
02:53:40.000 Yeah.
02:53:41.000 And we're done, and I'm going...
02:53:47.000 Yeah.
02:54:02.000 Because you were always like, tense, tense, tense, tense.
02:54:05.000 And then all of a sudden you're like, oh my god, I haven't breathed in like 40 seconds.
02:54:10.000 You're just taking punches.
02:54:12.000 I would love to do that.
02:54:13.000 I'm ready, man.
02:54:14.000 I'm ready.
02:54:15.000 I'm going to do that and live in the jungle just for a month now.
02:54:18.000 Because you're talking me out of a penis hole.
02:54:20.000 Yeah, you don't want to get your dick in the river.
02:54:22.000 Keep your dick out of the river.
02:54:24.000 Very important.
02:54:25.000 Make people laugh.
02:54:26.000 Go in the jungle.
02:54:27.000 Keep my dick out of the river.
02:54:28.000 The river has fucking crocodiles.
02:54:31.000 That's what you really have to worry about.
02:54:32.000 Those motherfuckers have been around.
02:54:34.000 Ever.
02:54:35.000 They were around when the dinosaurs were here.
02:54:37.000 They are dinosaurs.
02:54:38.000 Yeah, they are dinosaurs.
02:54:39.000 If you want to know what it was like living 100 million years ago, go see a crocodile.
02:54:45.000 That's what they are.
02:54:48.000 I spent a lot of time in Florida.
02:54:50.000 You ever see a crane?
02:54:51.000 Yeah.
02:54:53.000 They look like pterodactyls.
02:54:55.000 How about all the fucking alligators in Florida?
02:54:57.000 Bro.
02:54:58.000 Dude, they're everywhere.
02:54:59.000 Everywhere.
02:55:00.000 One of my favorite stories from Florida was this guy was in a car chase with the cops.
02:55:03.000 He abandons his car on a bridge, jumps off the bridge into the water, and he's immediately killed by alligators.
02:55:09.000 Literally landed on a fucking alligator, just like...
02:55:14.000 And they don't give a shit.
02:55:17.000 They don't give a fuck.
02:55:17.000 They have a tiny brain, size of a walnut.
02:55:19.000 They just float around killing shit, eating things, eating a lot of people's dogs.
02:55:24.000 I thought that was like a real man show, too.
02:55:27.000 Those animals that would go in...
02:55:31.000 Swamp people?
02:55:32.000 Yeah!
02:55:33.000 Oof.
02:55:33.000 They jump in.
02:55:34.000 They say, oh, get me an alligator.
02:55:36.000 And they jump in the water with the alligator.
02:55:40.000 Bro, that's the guys you want going to war with.
02:55:42.000 Those guys kill so many alligators.
02:55:44.000 That was the thing that was shocking to me, is how many alligators there are.
02:55:47.000 When I lived in Florida, I lived in Gainesville when I was a kid.
02:55:49.000 You lived in Gainesville?
02:55:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:55:51.000 From age 11 to 13, I lived in Gainesville.
02:55:53.000 Wow.
02:55:54.000 And when we were there, they were endangered.
02:55:59.000 Alligators were endangered.
02:56:00.000 Really?
02:56:00.000 Yeah, they had killed so many alligators previous to that.
02:56:03.000 Like, his alligator shoes were the shit.
02:56:06.000 That was the thing.
02:56:06.000 Like, dudes want to be shit, they would wear a pair of gaiters.
02:56:09.000 I remember at the pool hall, like, that was the thing that, like, the old-timey guys would talk about.
02:56:14.000 I got dressed up, I had my gaiters on.
02:56:16.000 Like, gaiters was like, if you had a nice pair of alligator shoes, like, look at Mike.
02:56:20.000 Mike's got a pair of gaiters on.
02:56:22.000 Look at that.
02:56:22.000 The leather pants and tiger.
02:56:24.000 Yeah, it was very similar.
02:56:25.000 But they were endangered.
02:56:27.000 You couldn't hunt them.
02:56:28.000 Now there's so many of them, they have to kill them.
02:56:31.000 So those swamp people that show...
02:56:33.000 One of the guys who was a professional alligator hunter, he had a tag for 500 alligators.
02:56:40.000 He could shoot 500 alligators.
02:56:43.000 So they had a warehouse stacked up with alligator carcasses.
02:56:46.000 Think of that.
02:56:47.000 This is nuts.
02:56:48.000 That's nuts.
02:56:48.000 That's nuts.
02:56:49.000 And they weren't even putting a dent in those fucking things.
02:56:51.000 Right.
02:56:52.000 There's so many of them.
02:56:53.000 Right.
02:56:53.000 I've been eyeing this place in Florida.
02:56:57.000 Oh, yeah?
02:56:57.000 Yes.
02:56:58.000 Eyeing it like this?
02:56:59.000 Just like that.
02:57:00.000 You circling?
02:57:02.000 Yeah, let me put this area.
02:57:04.000 So you want to move to Florida?
02:57:05.000 Is that what you're saying?
02:57:05.000 I would like to, yeah.
02:57:06.000 Really?
02:57:07.000 What part?
02:57:09.000 Naples area.
02:57:10.000 And I'll tell you, I love Captiva.
02:57:12.000 What is that?
02:57:13.000 What's Captiva?
02:57:13.000 Southwest.
02:57:14.000 Oh, it's a place.
02:57:16.000 I thought it was a natural sweetener.
02:57:19.000 No.
02:57:20.000 Captiva Island.
02:57:22.000 Captiva, Sanibel.
02:57:23.000 I love Southwest Florida.
02:57:25.000 Oh, okay.
02:57:26.000 I don't like the hoopla on the east side.
02:57:28.000 The east side's the hoopla?
02:57:29.000 Yeah.
02:57:30.000 What's the east side?
02:57:31.000 Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach.
02:57:33.000 Oh, okay.
02:57:34.000 It's too northeast for me.
02:57:36.000 Right.
02:57:36.000 The more I, you know, I grew up in New York, Manhattan, the more, like the minute I went to Jersey, I got a couple acres.
02:57:47.000 I'm back in the neighborhood.
02:57:49.000 Chirp, chirp, chirp.
02:57:50.000 Yes!
02:57:51.000 Dude, the first time I went out there...
02:57:53.000 You ever hear a fox call in the middle of the night?
02:57:57.000 No.
02:57:58.000 What's it sound like?
02:57:59.000 It's like...
02:58:00.000 I thought...
02:58:06.000 I swear to God...
02:58:07.000 I thought a child was being...
02:58:12.000 Tortured.
02:58:13.000 Tortured.
02:58:14.000 And I got on the phone with the police.
02:58:19.000 I swear to God.
02:58:21.000 They're like, did you just move around here, buddy?
02:58:24.000 Yeah, and within, but what threw me off was, within a minute, I'm like, wait a minute, how'd they drag that kid from there to like 100 yards in three seconds?
02:58:38.000 Yeah.
02:58:40.000 Maybe it's not a...
02:58:41.000 Maybe it's not a...
02:58:43.000 That's Screech Owls?
02:58:44.000 Oh!
02:58:45.000 Yeah, they're wild.
02:58:46.000 Yeah.
02:58:47.000 Screech...
02:58:48.000 So anyway.
02:58:49.000 I don't even know what the hell I was talking about.
02:58:51.000 Wait, you got something, Jamie?
02:58:53.000 I don't hear shit.
02:58:54.000 No, me either.
02:58:56.000 It is.
02:58:57.000 There it is.
02:58:58.000 Whoa.
02:58:58.000 Can you imagine 3 in the morning?
02:58:59.000 Let me hear that.
02:59:01.000 3 in the morning.
02:59:04.000 Whoa.
02:59:05.000 That sounds like a werewolf.
02:59:07.000 That's like American Werewolf in London.
02:59:09.000 And...
02:59:11.000 In my woods, everything echoes.
02:59:15.000 That's a crazy sound!
02:59:17.000 The call is usually ignored unless answered by the fox's mate.
02:59:24.000 I will never forget hearing that.
02:59:30.000 That sounds like a kid screaming.
02:59:33.000 I thought it was a kid screaming!
02:59:35.000 Look at their teeth!
02:59:39.000 They're fucking weird.
02:59:41.000 Wow.
02:59:41.000 That's the sound they make when they're fighting.
02:59:43.000 Look at their fucking teeth.
02:59:44.000 Look how long their mouths are.
02:59:49.000 They're so cute.
02:59:50.000 They're my favorite little animals.
02:59:52.000 There's a fox that lives near my house.
02:59:55.000 They're so cute.
02:59:57.000 They're all over near my house.
02:59:58.000 They're very playful, too.
02:59:59.000 They'll fuck around with people.
03:00:00.000 Did you ever see the movie Grizzly Man?
03:00:02.000 Oh, yeah.
03:00:02.000 Yeah.
03:00:04.000 Remember that wild fox became his buddy?
03:00:07.000 Yes.
03:00:07.000 That was very cool.
03:00:08.000 Yeah, it was like he had a real relationship with that fox.
03:00:11.000 The fox was playful with him.
03:00:13.000 The ending really annoyed me.
03:00:15.000 Why did it annoy you?
03:00:16.000 Because I was like, the sick part of me, I wanted to see it.
03:00:21.000 I wanted to hear it.
03:00:22.000 Yeah.
03:00:22.000 I'm like, come on.
03:00:24.000 Yeah, they apparently deleted the sound.
03:00:27.000 Werner Herzog deleted the recording.
03:00:30.000 Had the lady delete the recording because they were worried that it was going to get on the internet.
03:00:33.000 And then someone faked it.
03:00:34.000 There's like a fake recording on the internet.
03:00:35.000 Someone said there's fake, and that's what bothered me too.
03:00:37.000 Yeah, it's fake.
03:00:38.000 He clearly, in my opinion, was a mushroom tripper.
03:00:44.000 Because that scene, when after the bear shits, and he's like, this was justice came out of her butt.
03:00:54.000 Right.
03:00:54.000 Yeah.
03:00:55.000 This was inside her.
03:00:57.000 Oh, Coco.
03:00:58.000 And now it's here.
03:01:00.000 It's amazing.
03:01:01.000 He's crying for our life.
03:01:02.000 It's still warm.
03:01:03.000 Like, what happened to this kid behind his shed when he was like eight years old?
03:01:07.000 Something happened.
03:01:08.000 He was very unhealthy.
03:01:10.000 Something happened.
03:01:11.000 That guy wanted to die.
03:01:13.000 I think so.
03:01:14.000 I think that was suicide by bear.
03:01:15.000 Because he knew enough about bears to know that you're not supposed to go there.
03:01:19.000 He was staying there when the bears were supposed to be in hibernation, which is when the most dangerous bears are out.
03:01:25.000 They're starving.
03:01:25.000 Because they're starving.
03:01:26.000 Yeah.
03:01:27.000 They're starving.
03:01:28.000 And he was around these bears while they were starving.
03:01:30.000 And he was within fucking 30 yards of them, talking to them.
03:01:34.000 I don't know.
03:01:35.000 I think, you know, sometimes people think now they're...
03:01:39.000 Listen, I've had experiences where I think now the animal and I are connecting.
03:01:44.000 And so, he may have thought, like, our souls definitely connect.
03:01:50.000 And we are...
03:01:51.000 Yeah, but that shit is in your head, man.
03:01:54.000 You can connect with a little fox.
03:01:56.000 You can connect with that little fox, and that's probably why he was so confused, because he did connect with that little fox.
03:02:02.000 Think of dudes with lions and all that.
03:02:04.000 I almost got myself killed.
03:02:05.000 I was in Corpus Christi years ago.
03:02:09.000 I just ran into this guy again years ago.
03:02:11.000 Me and my wife go there.
03:02:13.000 He comes to the show.
03:02:13.000 He's like, I raise big cats.
03:02:17.000 We got fuckers missing fingers and teeth.
03:02:20.000 And everyone's like, no, people sleep over at his house.
03:02:22.000 It's a big thing.
03:02:23.000 Was it Tiger King?
03:02:23.000 Did you meet Tiger King?
03:02:25.000 No.
03:02:26.000 Are you sure?
03:02:26.000 I never watched that show.
03:02:28.000 What?
03:02:28.000 No.
03:02:29.000 I don't watch TV, man.
03:02:31.000 I watch TV, movies, none of that.
03:02:32.000 Why did you not watch Tiger King, though?
03:02:34.000 There's no appeal for me.
03:02:36.000 Just hearing the way people talk, it's like...
03:02:39.000 It's amazing.
03:02:40.000 I thought it was a great distraction when COVID came out.
03:02:42.000 It was.
03:02:43.000 But to me, I thought it was well-planned.
03:02:45.000 I watched it again recently.
03:02:47.000 I haven't watched it.
03:02:48.000 I forgot how amazing it was.
03:02:49.000 I'm sure it was.
03:02:50.000 It's amazing.
03:02:50.000 I'm sure it is.
03:02:51.000 It's amazing.
03:02:52.000 I'm sure it is.
03:02:55.000 I'm trying to talk you into it.
03:02:56.000 It's like Grizzly Man, but six hours long.
03:02:59.000 I'm sure it's the greatest.
03:03:01.000 Jamie, tell him.
03:03:03.000 Pretty good.
03:03:04.000 You're a communist.
03:03:05.000 Fuck is pretty good.
03:03:09.000 It's amazing.
03:03:11.000 Everything's amazing.
03:03:12.000 It's amazing.
03:03:13.000 All those people that have those cats are all out of their fucking minds.
03:03:16.000 But that's what I'm saying.
03:03:17.000 You reach a point where, no, the cat loves me.
03:03:19.000 You see videos where the guy goes and the lion comes and he hugs him.
03:03:23.000 He's in a while.
03:03:24.000 Yeah.
03:03:25.000 I... That guy's crazy.
03:03:28.000 They're not wise.
03:03:29.000 It's not a wise thing.
03:03:30.000 I think that's what happened to the grizzly guy.
03:03:33.000 He went, no, he really loved me.
03:03:35.000 No, that's a different situation.
03:03:37.000 You think?
03:03:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:03:38.000 Because I think that guy, first of all, I think he was a societal outcast.
03:03:42.000 I think he got some weird sort of power and satisfaction by pretending that he's out there protecting those animals.
03:03:51.000 Because that's one of the things that he would say.
03:03:53.000 He's like, I'm out here protecting them.
03:03:56.000 Where's the government?
03:03:56.000 Where are you, park rangers?
03:03:58.000 You motherfuckers!
03:03:59.000 Remember when he goes on that crazy rant?
03:04:01.000 Yes.
03:04:02.000 And if it weren't for me, Sally and Sherry and Coco would all be dead.
03:04:08.000 Yeah, but meanwhile, these animals are ruthless.
03:04:11.000 They kill each other.
03:04:12.000 That was the other thing that he found.
03:04:14.000 He found they were eating cubs, and he still stuck around.
03:04:16.000 Remember?
03:04:17.000 He found a paw of one of them.
03:04:19.000 That's right.
03:04:19.000 Yeah, they'll eat cubs.
03:04:21.000 The males, in particular, will eat their own cubs.
03:04:24.000 Those cubs had their, right?
03:04:25.000 Those bears had their own little picnic.
03:04:28.000 They don't give a fuck, man.
03:04:29.000 There was a thing that Werner Herzog said, that he saw something that I didn't see.
03:04:34.000 I look in their eyes, I see indifference and ruthless nature.
03:04:38.000 Like what you said.
03:04:39.000 Yeah, that's what they are.
03:04:40.000 You make the eyes.
03:04:41.000 Do the eyes.
03:04:42.000 Like this.
03:04:42.000 Ha!
03:04:44.000 They're killing machines.
03:04:45.000 I mean, they're beautiful and amazing and I'm glad they're alive.
03:04:49.000 I'm glad they're a thing.
03:04:49.000 I don't want grizzly bears to go extinct.
03:04:53.000 People want to pretend that they live in some fucking Lion King movie.
03:04:57.000 Nature is just things eating things.
03:05:00.000 That's it.
03:05:01.000 Remember the fox that he was in love with?
03:05:04.000 Remember it got torn apart by wolves?
03:05:05.000 That's right.
03:05:07.000 Animals.
03:05:07.000 We're the only...
03:05:11.000 I don't know what we are, but until we showed up, everything just ate one another.
03:05:16.000 And then we showed up, and I don't know, we got eaten, or we ate.
03:05:21.000 We got eaten, for sure.
03:05:23.000 We got eaten until we didn't.
03:05:24.000 People still get eaten.
03:05:25.000 Africa, India.
03:05:29.000 I never understood, like, what are we?
03:05:31.000 A friend of mine is a professional hunter, and his name's Jim Shockey, and he got hired to go to, I want to say it's Tanzania?
03:05:39.000 Yeah.
03:05:40.000 Maybe Tanzania or Zimbabwe.
03:05:41.000 I forget which river system it was at.
03:05:44.000 And they had man-eating crocodiles there, and they needed him to help.
03:05:49.000 And he said everyone in the town was missing a hand, people were like chunks taken out of their legs, because there were so many crocodiles.
03:05:56.000 And while he was there, one of the women in the village got taken by a crocodile and dragged into the river.
03:06:02.000 And so he hunted them and killed them for these people.
03:06:06.000 Yeah.
03:06:07.000 It's wild shit, dude.
03:06:08.000 It is wild.
03:06:09.000 That's the real world.
03:06:10.000 We just created shelters and cities, and it protects us from those things.
03:06:14.000 But then once we're protected, then we start getting delusional and think that somehow or another we're separate from the food chain.
03:06:20.000 But we're not.
03:06:21.000 We're not.
03:06:21.000 We're not.
03:06:22.000 We're not.
03:06:23.000 We're just aware.
03:06:25.000 We're aware of things.
03:06:26.000 We could take in variables, and we have emotions that other animals just don't possess.
03:06:30.000 Weird emotions, you know?
03:06:33.000 I think about that too, but I'm not sure.
03:06:35.000 Maybe they do have emotions and we're unaware of them.
03:06:39.000 Animals have emotions for sure, but domestic animals are the ones that have the most tangible emotions.
03:06:47.000 Like, my dog is very emotional.
03:06:49.000 He's emotional with me, gets so happy when he sees me, whines and whimpers and kisses me.
03:06:54.000 He's a love machine.
03:06:55.000 He's all filled with love.
03:06:57.000 But he's also very protected.
03:07:00.000 He's super loved.
03:07:01.000 He has food every day.
03:07:03.000 He's been with me since he was a little baby.
03:07:05.000 And so he's always been in this loving environment with my daughters and everyone.
03:07:09.000 All the people that come over my house love him.
03:07:11.000 Everybody loves him, right?
03:07:13.000 So, of course, he's like that.
03:07:14.000 But if you're around feral dogs, feral dogs are dangerous.
03:07:18.000 Mm-hmm.
03:07:18.000 Right.
03:07:31.000 And it's amazing if you change the environment, it all changes.
03:07:36.000 Yeah.
03:07:36.000 It all changes.
03:07:37.000 I know that by fact.
03:07:38.000 But dangerous people, programming is really difficult to shake.
03:07:43.000 Like, if you grow up dangerous, it's very hard for dangerous people to become non-dangerous.
03:07:49.000 Especially if they've been through the prison system, then it's even more difficult, right?
03:07:53.000 I have experience of...
03:08:01.000 People from the prison experience.
03:08:04.000 Not dangerous people.
03:08:06.000 But they ended up there.
03:08:08.000 And it really was because of their environment...
03:08:13.000 And then when they got out, I was like, okay, do we...
03:08:17.000 Is there still a good soul here?
03:08:20.000 Right.
03:08:20.000 Is this fixable?
03:08:21.000 Are they far worse than they were before they went?
03:08:23.000 Are they far worse?
03:08:25.000 And I tell you, it worked out for the better, thank God, but...
03:08:31.000 I knew a dude who worked out the worst way possible.
03:08:34.000 He went away when we were kids.
03:08:37.000 I used to do martial arts with him when I was like 15, 16. And then he went away.
03:08:43.000 He was a little older than me.
03:08:44.000 He went away and came out when I was like 20. 20 or 21. And he was, first of all, he was jacked.
03:08:52.000 He came out jacked and just hard and mean.
03:08:56.000 He went in for selling drugs.
03:08:58.000 He went away for a couple years.
03:09:00.000 And came out and just was a fucking hardened criminal.
03:09:04.000 And then got arrested while I knew him.
03:09:09.000 He said he didn't do it, but there was a crime that somehow or another he was connected to.
03:09:13.000 He was either connected to the crime or he knew someone who was connected to a crime of a guy who was beaten to death with a hammer.
03:09:21.000 And the guy was chopped up.
03:09:23.000 They cut his hands off.
03:09:25.000 All of his bones were broken.
03:09:26.000 And apparently they had kept him alive and conscious by injecting him with cocaine while they were torturing him.
03:09:32.000 So they were torturing this guy and then injecting him with cocaine when he would black out from the pain.
03:09:38.000 Dude.
03:09:40.000 Heavy.
03:09:41.000 Heavy.
03:09:42.000 Heavy shit.
03:09:43.000 That's a grudge.
03:09:45.000 Yeah.
03:09:46.000 This guy that I knew, he's dead now.
03:09:48.000 But this guy that I knew, he got arrested for that while I knew him.
03:09:52.000 And I was like, wow.
03:09:54.000 Yeah, that's a grudge.
03:09:55.000 That's a hard grudge.
03:09:56.000 And I don't think he was...
03:09:58.000 I don't think they booked him for it.
03:10:00.000 I think they brought him in for questioning.
03:10:02.000 I don't remember exactly, but I remember like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
03:10:05.000 You had something to do with that?
03:10:06.000 And he's like, no, no, I didn't have nothing to do with that.
03:10:08.000 I'm like, okay.
03:10:10.000 But you never know.
03:10:12.000 Guess who they didn't arrest?
03:10:13.000 Me.
03:10:14.000 Yeah.
03:10:15.000 Guess who definitely didn't have something to do with it?
03:10:17.000 Me.
03:10:17.000 Yeah, but he came out way dangerous.
03:10:21.000 And he was one of my sparring partners.
03:10:23.000 And when we spar, it was a fight.
03:10:26.000 There was no sparring.
03:10:27.000 It was a fight to the death.
03:10:28.000 Wow.
03:10:29.000 He was crazy.
03:10:30.000 Wow.
03:10:31.000 He would just come at you.
03:10:32.000 Yeah, my scenario didn't turn out like that.
03:10:34.000 It came out really good.
03:10:36.000 Took a while.
03:10:37.000 Yeah.
03:10:37.000 Took a long while.
03:10:40.000 But it turned out really good.
03:10:41.000 Look, some guys, they realize when they're in jail, they never want to be in there again.
03:10:45.000 They realize because it's so horrible, they never want to be in there again.
03:10:48.000 But the thing is, how do you get someone who's on the wrong road or a bad person?
03:10:53.000 What does jail do to them to make them a good person?
03:10:56.000 Not a lot.
03:10:57.000 There's not a lot of emphasis in that.
03:10:59.000 Nope.
03:11:00.000 And again, a lot of times, it's the environment you grew up in.
03:11:04.000 Okay.
03:11:04.000 When is your gig?
03:11:05.000 Do you have a gig tonight?
03:11:06.000 Yeah, I got a gig tonight.
03:11:07.000 Where at?
03:11:08.000 In two minutes.
03:11:09.000 It's four o'clock already.
03:11:10.000 Where's your gig?
03:11:11.000 Yeah, we did three hours, bro.
03:11:14.000 Damn.
03:11:15.000 I know.
03:11:15.000 Time flies in here.
03:11:17.000 Where are you at tonight?
03:11:19.000 You don't even know.
03:11:20.000 You still don't know.
03:11:20.000 The Nutty Brown.
03:11:21.000 The Nutty Brown.
03:11:22.000 Okay.
03:11:22.000 What time's your show?
03:11:24.000 Six.
03:11:25.000 Oh, Jesus.
03:11:25.000 Let's wrap this up.
03:11:26.000 We gotta eat.
03:11:27.000 Six o'clock.
03:11:28.000 Jim Brewer, you're the fucking man.
03:11:29.000 I love you.
03:11:29.000 Hey, man.
03:11:29.000 It's always great to see you, my friend.
03:11:31.000 I love seeing you, too.
03:11:31.000 So awesome.
03:11:32.000 So excited for you.
03:11:33.000 I'm happy you're doing well.
03:11:36.000 Doing good.
03:11:36.000 I'm happy you're happy.
03:11:37.000 Torn.
03:11:38.000 Life is beautiful.
03:11:38.000 It's always great to see you, man.
03:11:39.000 You, too.
03:11:39.000 Tell people your Instagram, social media.
03:11:43.000 JimBrewer.com.
03:11:45.000 There you go.
03:11:45.000 The Facebook and Instagram.
03:11:47.000 It's all connected.
03:11:49.000 All connected.
03:11:49.000 Okay.
03:11:50.000 I love you, buddy.
03:11:51.000 I love you too, bro.
03:11:52.000 All right.
03:11:52.000 Bye, everybody.