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00:00:28.000I had a girl come up to me who's very skinny who goes, you've really given me like a lot of inspiration, like how you'll just wear a midriff no matter what.
00:05:07.000Everywhere else, there's places that are as good, like Franklin's and La Barbecue, and there's some killer places, but they don't get better.
00:12:01.000I remember one time I came straight from Fear Factor, and I had sunscreen on, and I didn't realize I had sunscreen on, and I'm on stage, and I sweat, and the sweat got in my eye, and then I was in pain, so I was trying to do my act while my eyes were tearing up.
00:14:08.000Like, how does someone, like, all of a sudden you find yourself in a fenced-off, you know, 10-acre, I don't know how many acres the place was, but where you have guns and you're fucking everybody's wife and everybody has to give you their money.
00:14:20.000I know, once a guy's like, I'm gonna fuck your wife, that's when you gotta go, I think I need to exit.
00:14:24.000Don't think you're working in the name of Jesus.
00:14:26.000Yeah, Jesus does not want you to bang my wife.
00:17:50.000She posted a clip where Rich was talking about his lisp, and he was like, people make fun of my lisp, but if I was missing arms, they wouldn't make fun of it.
00:17:57.000And Bonnie's like, Rich, your lisp has never gotten in the way of your life.
00:18:02.000And I commented, I was like, it has gotten in the way of my life.
00:19:44.000They used to do this thing on Open Anthony where he would grab a microphone and walk into a fucking laundromat and just start doing stand-up.
00:20:15.000I think terrestrial was first and satellite was second.
00:20:18.000But we would do one radio show and then we would walk down the street to the second place.
00:20:24.000And while we were walking, they were broadcasting.
00:20:28.000So we were Broadcasting with wireless microphones walking down the street to the next place.
00:20:34.000That's so funny I always want to do a podcast where I'm like on the street where I just do like a It's just an hour of me walking around talking shit to the camera and then like fucking with people on the street You should do it on 6th Street.
00:20:44.000I should well I'm gonna wait for things to cool down.
00:23:05.000It was literally the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
00:23:07.000If you're closing a show, I then had to go on stage and be like, smells like tuna fish.
00:23:11.000I was like, I have to either shove this microphone up my asshole or I just have to eat a dick for fucking 45 minutes to an hour after this.
00:25:45.000Someone who would just always clear the room.
00:25:48.000I mean, and it would be like a packed, like it would be a night you were on, so it would be like a fucking sold out main room.
00:25:54.000And I'm watching everyone get up and leave, so I would always go, all right, you guys can leave if you want, but if you did, I'm going to tell everyone you raped me, so it's up to you.
00:26:04.000A white woman, I can do whatever I want.
00:26:05.000But it was just like, I always had to do like a save line, you know, because it was like so awkward that everyone was leaving.
00:26:10.000But what I learned, this is something I taught myself over the pandemic too, that my time on stage is my time on stage.
00:26:15.000I don't have to bring up what anyone's done before.
00:26:17.000I just need to reset and just do my thing.
00:26:23.000It takes a little time to shift them over to your style.
00:26:25.000That was something that I learned really from watching people in Boston.
00:26:30.000I learned from watching Dom Herrera in particular.
00:26:33.000Because Dom Herrera was the only guy that I ever saw that went up at Nick's Comedy Stop and did well after the local headliners.
00:26:39.000Because they used to do this really sneaky thing where they would take the local headliners, guys like Steve Sweeney and Don Gavin and Kevin Knox, and they would murder.
00:27:53.000And it's like- How the fuck do they ever come back if they do?
00:27:58.000Imagine if you worked for 30 years of your life for something and you built it up and you're getting by and you're doing well and you're making a good living and then all of a sudden it's gone.
00:28:32.000It's people that think that it's like an effort, that it was on purpose, and that they recognize that this is an opportunity to get rid of these small businesses and build up these bigger businesses.
00:28:46.000That's what the most cynical and conspiracy-minded amongst us think.
00:28:50.000They think that they recognize this as an attack on small businesses and an opportunity for big corporations to thrive, because that's what happened to them.
00:31:46.000It's unfortunate, but it didn't used to be like this.
00:31:49.000And you've got to think, is it really like that many more people are homeless, or is it that they don't go to shelters anymore and now they're camping?
00:31:57.000Because that's the argument about it in here.
00:32:01.000But the people that I know that are paying attention say a lot of what happened was when they lifted the ban on camping, the outdoor camping thing, all these people that used to stay in these shelters decided to just camp.
00:35:07.000This is the video I was looking at when you're talking about this activist lady is trying to, I guess, help, but there's also a guy with a machete just standing right behind her.
00:35:15.000Jamie, when you watched this the first time, what part did you come?
00:35:28.000You remember how Coleon Noir was on and he was talking about how the reason why the homeless situation never gets fixed is because so many people...
00:36:59.000This is a story I heard on the LA News that they bought these things for the homeless shelter situation, and they were just hanging out near a Dodger Stadium unused until someone found them with a drone one day.
00:39:34.000I think you are traveling a lot less now and I also think you're probably taking care of yourself a little bit better because you're worried about the Rona.
00:39:41.000Like most people now are starting to take vitamins and most people are really aware of vitamin C or vitamin D rather.
00:39:47.000They just did a study that showed that vitamin D deficiency is a bigger comorbidity factor than even being obese.
00:39:56.000Now the vitamin D you're talking about, is that the same you get from the sun?
00:39:59.000It's better if you get it from the sun.
00:40:45.000Well, I'm very introspective, and I feel very vulnerable when I come out of that place, and I feel like that's a good thing to express, because I think a lot of people feel vulnerable, and I think a lot of people also see people that are doing well, and they think they're never vulnerable.
00:41:00.000You know, I make myself vulnerable through workouts.
00:41:02.000I make myself vulnerable through jujitsu and sauna and all kinds, and, you know, stage, creating comedy and all that shit, too, but everybody's vulnerable.
00:41:22.000But I've been doing, out here I've been doing a lot of privates because I'm trying to learn the leg lock game.
00:41:26.000I'm trying to, because when I was doing jiu-jitsu regularly, it wasn't, the leg lock revolution really happened about five years ago and I missed it.
00:41:36.000So I understand it in a crude sense, but I don't understand it like I know the rest of Jiu-Jitsu.
00:41:42.000I'm a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu, but I'm not a black belt in leg locks.
00:41:45.000We always did a leg lock warm-up every day in every class.
00:43:44.000I'm trying to find the right person to bring with me because it's such a vibe.
00:43:48.000You need someone that's cool to hang out with that knows boundaries if I don't want to hang out too much.
00:43:52.000Because I found the couple gigs that I've done, even though my openers are really nice, I can't handle that.
00:43:58.000The questions, the energy is something I'm not interested in doing.
00:44:01.000Sometimes it's rough when you're trying to get ready for a show and they want to talk to you about stuff and ask questions and you're writing notes and you're like, hey man.
00:48:03.000Whether you look at it that way or not, like people love to make excuses for why they're not as successful as they think they are.
00:48:09.000But when you do that, and there's all these other people around you that are killing it, do you really think there's some fucking conspiracy against you?
00:48:32.000Just the like waiting for Hollywood, like all the cancel culture shit, all that stuff, is you expecting Hollywood to pick you or something?
00:51:37.000I'm 100% accountable for my life, 100% of the time.
00:51:40.000And now that I have that That view, and I do these, I do meditations every night, I do, what do you call it, visualizations, and I'm reprogramming this subconscious thought of like, I'm not worthy, I'm not good enough.
00:51:56.000And I now, I'm approaching things, I mean, you can get it anywhere.
00:52:00.000These are all things I've heard before.
00:52:02.000You know, I've gotten advice from people, I've read a lot of self-help and stuff, but for some reason the way he does it for me is like, at this very moment in my life, is exactly what I need.
00:56:37.000But he said this thing to me on the podcast where he said, I don't remember the name of the guy whose theory it is, but it's the idea of pro-noia.
00:56:49.000So it's instead of paranoia, where you're assuming that the universe is conspiring against you, you just assume they're conspiring for you.
00:56:56.000So that whenever anything happens, and that type of thought process has helped me.
00:57:02.000Because even if you think about it, if I'm thinking, okay, something horrible happened, oh no, what am I going to do?
00:57:10.000But if I look at it and I go, oh, this is a shift now, and now I'm moving on to something better, and then I'm looking for the positive and the good opportunities, so...
00:57:19.000So you're looking at things with a healthier perspective.
01:06:17.000I was just thinking deep dish pizzas and...
01:06:19.000They think they're taking on the spirit of the jungle.
01:06:22.000This is like all the things you're afraid of in the jungle and all the things that are in control in the wild and the powerful forces of the jungle.
01:07:23.000Honestly, it was really helpful because...
01:07:25.000I was really having this like moment of like hugging him and feeling like how sad he must have felt and then I purged like an egg out of my mouth.
01:07:33.000It was like an egg and then it got like pushed out and then a bird flew out of my mouth and I think that was like my guilt about surrounding the Brody stuff, you know?
01:08:09.000Brody, I remember Brody had talked to me about his meds years ago, and then he was okay.
01:08:14.000I remember there was one time where he got off his meds, and he was acting really strange, and he would get real angry on stage, and then a few of his friends reached out to me and said, hey, don't engage with Brody.
01:08:27.000He's off his meds, and we need to figure out a way to get him back on his meds.
01:08:31.000Then he got back on him, and he was fine.
01:09:44.000It would have been really cool if I was able to touch base with someone after my experience with ayahuasca, because I do think a lot of the things I learned are now kind of falling into place two years, three years later.
01:09:57.000Interesting to be able to like record all my thoughts right afterwards and my experience and then have someone that was trained in there to kind of go over it and kind of touch base and integrate back in.
01:10:08.000Is ayahuasca like DMT in that when you have the experience like afterwards it's so vivid but it goes away quickly like the memory of it.
01:10:16.000It's almost like your brain is trying to protect you from the memory of the experience.
01:13:32.000And for you to think that you were supposed to have something means that There's a specific path that just doesn't exist.
01:13:38.000But anyway, so these people that have these jobs, that have success in them, then come into comedy, and it's almost like they want this rollover success.
01:13:48.000Like, because I was here or there, so then they have this, like...
01:13:52.000Anxiety of not being, like, at that level that they were at this other thing.
01:13:57.000I've experienced it just with people coming up.
01:13:59.000And, you know, it's like you just gotta start over.
01:14:06.000Well, you have to just look at what you're doing and improve upon what you're doing.
01:14:11.000And don't look at it like you have these expectations.
01:14:14.000The problem is, you know, when people have expectations, oftentimes they're either unrealistic or they're not grounded and centered in the reality of the circumstances you find yourself in.
01:16:18.000Yeah, I felt like, you know, whenever there's things like that that have, like, these conversations, to impose a time limit on that.
01:16:26.000That's the beautiful thing about podcasts, right?
01:16:28.000As opposed to, like, a regular television show where you have to, you know, it has to be 44 minutes long or whatever it is, with showtime an hour, I guess.
01:17:02.000But Jay Leno is from a time where it mattered if you were clean or dirty, because if you were clean, you could get on television.
01:17:11.000If you were dirty, you could not, and you would have to work the road.
01:17:14.000So his mindset, because he was talking about financial success, which was the most bizarre conversation of all time, because he's sitting next to me, who's super fucking dirty.
01:17:26.000And I'm like, okay, I want to be nice because I love Jay Leno.
01:17:34.000But he maybe doesn't know what is going on with you.
01:17:37.000He might just not know because he's paying attention to TV. He knows because I know that him and Binder were talking about me selling out arenas and he didn't believe it.
01:18:43.000When you're doing a car show with that guy, he loves it.
01:18:46.000So I was on his show with my 65 Corvette.
01:18:49.000So me and him are talking and we're all like, ah!
01:18:52.000Like the engine and the fucking, the shapes of the cars back then and look at the interior and the manual shifter and all this stuff and it's like we're totally on the same page and synced up and he's 100% himself.
01:19:04.000Like who Jay Leno is off camera, that's how he is on camera when he's talking about cars.
01:19:10.000But when he's doing The Tonight Show, he's got to be the host of a television show and it's all buttoned down and it's kind of stiff and you're waiting for the next thing and I just feel like that would be so much pressure.
01:19:20.000I've known people that have written on those shows, and you see the life leave their eyes.
01:20:08.000He told a fucking story about being at a mob club.
01:20:11.000He told a story about doing a gig for a mobster, and the mobster screaming at a priest about having already, I gave you your fucking money, and screaming at this priest.
01:22:02.000And I forgive him for that, honestly, because I really did hold on to being so pissed at him about that.
01:22:06.000And I'm like, why did I? He's just trying to help me.
01:22:07.000It was just his idea of it was so off from what was true to me.
01:22:11.000And what I'm thinking about, even with this movie I'm writing with Bonnie, My agent, who I do really love, I finally have an agent I love, I can't believe it, Ryan.
01:22:20.000But he was like, oh, I'm going to set you up with these people that are going to tell you what the different studios are looking for.
01:22:27.000I'm like, I don't give a shit what the studios are looking for.
01:26:38.000And so we start talking about cars, and he takes it, like, many levels past me into, like, suspension geometry and the way they use their torque vectoring system to, like...
01:27:37.000There was an article in Time Magazine yesterday that I saw on Twitter where they were calling out Kim Kardashian for blackfishing and appropriating black culture because she had braids on.
01:29:58.000And if you think about all these really unhealthy people that are eating processed food, because your body's like, ugh, what is this?
01:30:05.000That's the same thing with these people's minds that are just digesting processed information all the time.
01:30:10.000You're not getting a real nuanced, balanced perspective.
01:30:14.000And one of the fucking best things about podcasts is you have conversations with people, like one-to-one conversations where Most people don't get those anymore.
01:30:25.000You know what I've noticed, though, about when you get under fire for things?
01:30:28.000They never print the next day if you say something else.
01:30:33.000Like, they'll catch, like, a segment of what you say, they run with it, and then if you're like, oh, I didn't even think of that part when I was saying that, they won't.
01:30:42.000It doesn't matter because the people that know me know me.
01:31:06.000It's the people that already didn't like you.
01:31:08.000But if you had a television show, that would work.
01:31:10.000So if they wanted to cancel you and you had a television show and they could take something out of context and get you canceled, it would work because people wouldn't know.
01:31:50.000You could go through it and find stupid shit I've said, but it doesn't mean that's who I am.
01:31:56.000Who you are is who you are all the time.
01:31:58.000We are a weird, nuanced creature that has a lot of conflicting ideas.
01:32:06.000And if you take things out of context, and with doing it to try to get the least charitable interpretation of who that person is, you're doing that in bad faith.
01:32:16.000And you do it enough times, people figure it out.
01:32:54.000So when Tony was going on and saying that after him, in context, especially since the guy opened for Tony, the guy was on Kill Tony, even his, like that was the thing in his resume.
01:33:05.000That he was on Kill Tony and they opened up for Tony on the run.
01:33:08.000He just took a chance because this is what people think they can do today.
01:33:46.000The audience, first of all, the other thing you see about Tony's video is he fucking killed.
01:33:50.000The reason why he killed is because everyone there knew he was fucking around at first, and then he's got a smile on his face, and it's just, if you know Tony, this is the kind of comedy he does.
01:34:01.000And for him to do that after that guy is just, he's being a dick in jest.
01:34:08.000I know, and then you cut it down, you caption it and everything, and I don't want to like, that guy did his thing, I'm not even, he did his thing.
01:34:17.000But it's like, then you're giving it, you're putting it in another, you're taking it out of context, and now you actually are hurting people, right?
01:34:23.000There are people watching that are going like, he said that?
01:34:27.000And now it's like, what is the point of this?
01:34:54.000He's just trying to be funny, and sometimes you miss.
01:34:57.000Patrice had the best line about that, and he said that whether something kills or whether something bombs and offends everybody, it all comes from the same place.
01:35:57.000But if you left him alone for four or five months, he probably would have made it work.
01:36:02.000He would have found a way to make it work, and this is the thing that happens with really controversial bits.
01:36:07.000You start off with this idea, and you bring it on stage, and someone will be like, oh, you shouldn't have said that word, or oh, you shouldn't have said this word, and you're like, okay, how do I make it so that it reaches the most amount of people and doesn't piss people off, but gets my point across, or maybe I can say that,
01:36:24.000but I have to say something else first.
01:36:26.000It's all about crafting it so it enters into your mind the best way.
01:36:30.000It's almost like foreplay or something.
01:36:31.000It's like you're trying to get in there with the least amount of resistance and the most amount of impact.
01:37:52.000And it went away because, at the time, people weren't willing to accept it.
01:37:58.000And when you've experienced that, and you've also experienced what it must be like to be a gay woman and to try to get some traction in Hollywood, you probably build up a lot of resentment and a lot of anger.
01:38:11.000And one of the things that definitely happens, I've seen it on sitcoms, where someone's the star of a sitcom, right?
01:38:19.000And all their life, they wanted to be the boss.
01:38:23.000In all their life, they get shut down.
01:40:21.000Not only that, like the big thing with Roseanne, when she was getting canceled and I reached out immediately because I'm like, you fucking people have no idea that this lady got hit by a car when she was 15. She had severe brain damage.
01:40:34.000She had to go on Oprah and apologize for accusing her parents of She's been through trouble.
01:40:44.000She was in a mental institute for nine months at 15 years old after getting hit by a car.
01:42:33.000This is an MTV show that's been going on.
01:42:36.000It was like real world road rules and then they put all of these Crazy, heightened reality stars together, and they have to do some eating nasty stuff, they have to do all these different physical challenges, but it's really hard.
01:42:51.000Jamie and I were talking about it at the creek in the cave that night that I saw you, and people were coming up to try to talk to us.
01:42:58.000Tony came up and was like, you know what, I gotta tell you.
01:43:00.000And I go, Tony, do you watch the challenge?
01:43:22.000It's something I don't like to talk about.
01:43:24.000It's like that secret show I watched by myself.
01:43:26.000I was like, no, listen, and also, Jamie, you told him not to watch the movie Midsommar, and I need you to watch the movie Midsommar and talk to you about it.
01:43:33.000You told me to not watch the movie Midsommar?
01:45:42.000There's so many people now that start off with dumbbells on the ground with doing a dip where they lift their leg off the ground and then they pull it all the way up and then go into a handstand.
01:45:53.000And you're like, how many fucking people can do that?
01:46:44.000Yeah, I've had quite a few rock climbers on the show and it's just like, the people that like, Alex Honnold, the people that do that shit, it's like, Jesus Christ.
01:46:53.000I remember the guy I was dating when we were watching that.
01:48:05.000You cannot believe what this church looks like.
01:48:09.000And the point of bringing it up was that the church was having a negative impact on the land?
01:48:14.000No, it's just the massive amount of people in this area and how it went from having 200,000 people in this area to 20 million in two generations.
01:48:24.000And the impact that it's having on the environment is just staggering.
01:48:29.000And they show these people in, I think it was Kenya, that were navigating these giant hills of trash.
01:48:35.000And they showed all these people working in mines, like digging into the ground and coming out with all this material and shit and how it's getting into the rivers and getting...
01:48:48.000Fucking crazy because they shot a lot of it with drones.
01:48:52.000So you get this visual of the actual scope of it all and the scale of it all as they fly over these enormous treatment plants and these enormous oil refineries in Houston and all these different things.
01:52:23.000They showed that, you know, these people that are trying to fight off poachers.
01:52:27.000But to me, the wildest thing was, you know, the drone footage.
01:52:33.000When you see it from the sky and you get to see the scale of some of the things they've done, there's this farm, they were in Germany, and they were knocking down people's houses and knocking down these old churches to make more room for strip mining.
01:52:48.000And you see them knock down this old church.
01:52:52.000And then you see as they go up into the sky, you see how much land they've destroyed and how it just keeps pushing deeper and deeper and deeper by creating this strip mining.
01:53:03.000But they're like, whatever used to be there is now dead and devastated.
01:53:07.000And they've peeled the skin back on an orange and you just have the flesh underneath it.
01:53:15.000They're buying people out and, you know, there's a lady in it that was showing how, you know, she was like the last house on the street and then they're pointing to this house.
01:53:24.000They just bought it and they were tearing it down.
01:53:26.000But they tore down this old fucking church and these people had apparently locked arms over the church and they were trying to stop them from doing it and they're like, fuck you, tearing it down.
01:53:34.000And they're tearing it down to make everything gross.
01:53:36.000Like, the church is beautiful and the area is beautiful, but It's this, like, short-sighted thing that people do when they can extract resources, they do.
01:53:45.000When there is a profit to be made, they make that profit.
01:53:51.000It's really weird because this is a recent thing, right, in terms of, like, the history of the earth.
01:53:57.000It's the impact that human beings are having has really only been the last few hundred years and really radically the last...
01:54:03.000150 or so, but when you watch it in these films, it's fucking nuts.
01:54:08.000These machines that they have that they bore into the ground with, these enormous excavator machines, I mean, they're giant apartment buildings with, like, huge teeth that dig into the earth and scoop up all this shit and cut away the mountain.
02:02:10.000And I remember feeling the first time we went, I did only go once, but when we went, I remember feeling like my whole life I've been waiting to go skydiving.
02:02:18.000This was going to be this amazing experience.
02:02:26.000I didn't because I was attached to the guy, and I just knew that they did it so often.
02:02:31.000I was like, this guy's not going to want to die, so he's going to do it right.
02:02:34.000Sometimes you think they get a little too casual.
02:02:37.000Maybe, but then on stage I was doing a joke about how I was underwhelmed by it, and how next time I want to go up, I want to go to a place with one star that has...
02:02:48.000And I want the guy to be like, there's two parachutes, one works, pick, you know?
02:02:53.000But then this guy in the audience came up to me, him and his wife, and she goes, oh, he's a skydiving instructor and he'll take you out and really scare the shit out of you.
02:03:00.000And I was like, um, maybe I don't mean that.
02:03:02.000And I never took him up on it because I was like...
02:03:05.000Yeah, what if he tried hard to scare you and wanted to die?
02:04:04.000They had to skydive down, and his parachute didn't open, or he came down too fast, and he fucked himself up, but he still ended up doing the challenge, which is, like, three days, I think they do it, where they barely sleep, and it's just these...
02:06:52.000But listen, that shit drives me fucking crazy.
02:06:56.000Because I'm going to just explain this right now.
02:06:58.000Saying that as an open general statement is so fucking stupid because people have bulging discs that push on their nerves and their fucking arms atrophy and their hands stop working.
02:08:21.000If that doesn't hurt, you definitely have a bulging disc.
02:08:23.000So I'm like, man, I need to go to a real doctor.
02:08:25.000And I finally went to a guy who deals with neck injuries, and he took me in for an MRI. And he's like, look, this is how your disc is bulging out and pressing.
02:08:35.000And you have disc degeneration, which means all the cushioning in between my spine, all of it was shrinking.
02:08:43.000And my height, I'm shrinking because these little discs are shrinking.
02:08:47.000And so it makes your back more irritable because there's no cushioning.
02:10:27.000And that's one of the things that I work really hard on is like strengthening my neck and strengthening my back and strengthening all of the different muscles that protect all that area.
02:10:35.000Like I have this reverse hyper machine now from Sorenx that I use.
02:10:40.000And then I have like this iron neck thing that I do.
02:10:43.000Well, I've got a fucking halo on my head with a bungee cord.
02:12:42.000I mean, I'm 53, and I still work out pretty much exactly the same way.
02:12:48.000Like, everything I do, I do pretty much the same way I did when I was 25 or 35 or even 45. And I'm almost 55. I'll be 55 in a couple years, which is crazy.
02:12:57.000I thought I was going to catch you on a weird lie that you were 54. I'll be 54 in August.
02:17:29.000I'm a big believer in CBD. I'm a big believer in anything that you can do that reduces inflammation.
02:17:35.000Inflammation is the cause of a lot of ailments in people.
02:17:39.000A lot of sicknesses and disease comes out of inflammation.
02:17:43.000And a lot of it is the diet that people eat, the bad foods, but inflammation in your jaw like that, I wonder if there's exercises that are good.
02:18:58.000I'm like, hey, that's not your finger.
02:19:00.000Yeah, I was reading about this guy that got molested by his massage therapist and he didn't realize that he was getting molested by a male massage therapist.
02:19:12.000He thought it was normal for the guy to put his fingers in his asshole.
02:20:06.000I mean, when they go for your butt cheeks first and your asshole is getting like cold air going into it, you're like, Oh no, I'm getting one of these fucking massages.
02:21:05.000Jessie Mae did like she repeated it someone else had already done it but she was doing like a fake kettlebell workout and she was like doing a squat with the kettlebell and then she had like her she edited so that was like her hands were in her pants like it was like labia or something picking up the kettlebell.
02:30:34.000When I found you on Signal and the first thing I read, I was like, where can I buy DMT? That's crazy that you guys became close after that podcast.
02:30:45.000We were friends, but she's like my soul sister.
02:31:02.000If she has the time, I mean, I don't want to be the guy that tells, oh, you got to do this, but I just think, like, you guys together, like, when I'm with Duncan, all right, Duncan is my Whitney in that regard.
02:31:12.000Like, when he was here the other day, I was like, dude, you and I together are so much better than I am by myself.
02:31:18.000It's like, me and him together, it's a magic thing.
02:32:03.000Well, I'll have news, and I can give you some news after the podcast about the opening of the club, because I have some solid fucking options now.
02:32:11.000And things are coming together, finally.
02:32:13.000It's a long story, and one day I'll tell the whole thing, but the nightmare of trying to get a building and put together a club has been crazy, but a lot of monkey wrench stuff.
02:32:27.000It's like some parts I can't tell because I'm a nice person, and I don't want to throw anybody under the bus because it'll be super obvious who I'm talking about, but I'll tell you.
02:35:34.000Like, I want all news about, you know, I'm into technology, so it's all technology news or car news or sports, like fighting, and it's like, that's all it's giving me, and it's just like, uh, uh, uh.
02:35:47.000You're just feeding your fucking head with nonsense.
02:35:49.000Yeah, because it knows what you want and knows what's going to distract you and knows what's going to get you sucked in.
02:38:23.000They strap him to a chair like he's a mental patient and shove a fucking needle in his arm, and they gave him an IV drip of ketamine, and apparently it was like a full-blown psychedelic dose, and he goes, dudes, I am in this doctor's office, and I am fucking tripping balls.
02:40:11.000And it's like, not everybody approaches it the same way.
02:40:14.000And it helps to have, like, one of the best things about the store was it helped to have all those other comics around that were our peers that we could hang with.
02:41:53.000She did always have it in her because she is so structured with her comedy and she works so hard.
02:41:58.000I remember going, I was laughing with her about this because I was helping her go shopping for her David Spade outfit two years ago or whatever, and it was before she lost the weight.
02:42:07.000And I was like, oh, you should wear this outfit.
02:45:13.000Because sometimes it's like you're losing a certain percentage of the crowd with the way you're saying something that you don't have to lose.
02:45:21.000And you can get them all or you can get a lot more of them if you just restructure things.
02:45:27.000It also, for me, I know the discipline of knowing where each word is is good, but I also feel like I get very robotic when I do that.
02:45:35.000So if I just go, this is the joke, this is the premise, and then I just redo it, then I'm saying it in a new way.
02:45:42.000The audience is kind of hearing a new thing.
02:45:44.000Even though when I restructure things, I still give myself the ability to free ball on stage because you have a feeling when there's too many words to something and you don't know until you're up there.
02:45:56.000Or maybe a feeling that maybe you need more words.
02:45:59.000Or maybe you need to look at it from other people.
02:46:03.000Stanhope said something once that really resonated.
02:48:07.000But he was like, you should have come up.
02:48:09.000He and I and Dave and all the people that opened when we did the stub shows, that was a real bonding moment because that was the height of the pandemic.
02:48:18.000Everybody was freaked out and we were testing hundreds and hundreds of people for every show.
02:48:24.000Every show we did, we tested the entire crowd and we did it outside and they all had masks on.
02:48:28.000But it was at the point in time where people were really freaked out and we put it together and we had a good time and a bunch of them.
02:52:51.000I guess it's hard kombucha, so it's made to be alcohol.
02:52:53.000It's like gluten-free beer when you're like, come on now.
02:52:55.000No, alcohol in Utah is weird because it's like they want to make money and have commerce, but they also want to uphold their weird Mormon rules.
02:53:04.000I had a friend who was a Mormon, and he's like, you can't have coffee, you know, in my religion.
02:53:11.000But meanwhile, this motherfucker would carry a monster energy drink everywhere he went.
02:54:34.000I mean, it's built towards small businesses, but because you, other than our small business, you know, can be a comedian promoting yourself.
02:54:46.000It's not the amount of text, it's where the text is and how big it is.
02:54:49.000So if it's taking up 10% of the picture, it will just not go out into the feed unless instantly, you know, 10% of your people like it, comment on it, share it themselves, bookmark it, do all these things.
02:59:20.000It's just time before everybody figures it out.
02:59:22.000And honestly, he's one of the products, I think him, Lara Bites, I would say myself too, like those late night spots of the comedy store where you just get to kind of perform to so few people, but you really get to figure your shit out.