In this episode, we talk about the Black Plague and how it affected the Mayans, the Amazon, and the indigenous people of South America. We also talk about how to get your hair back after losing it, and how to recover it if you've been infected with it. We also discuss how the plague changed the way we look at the world and how we think about the past and the future. We hope you enjoy this episode and that it makes you think about how important it is to have a healthy relationship with your body and mind. This episode is for anyone who's ever had a bad case of the black plague or has ever been infected by it, or is interested in learning more about the history of the plague, or just wants to know what it was like growing up in a small town in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Have a question or would like to debate a particular trend or topic? hl=en We ll see you next week! Thanks for listening and Good Luck Out There! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Theme by Mavus White. Our theme song is by Suneaters, and our ad music is by Build Buildings, courtesy of Lotuspool Records. Please rate, review, and review on Apple Music, and spread the word to your friends about this podcast! , and we'll be looking out for you in next week's episode! . Thank you so much for all the love, support, support and support the podcast, and all the work you do, and support us in any way you can do it, you're amazing, thank you, and we appreciate it, we really really appreciate it! xoxo, bye, bye bye bye. <3, bye. -P. <3 -PSO -JUICY! -KUWTY. ~JUICE -YUYO. (A.S.E. (Thank you, JUICEYO (AYO) (P.B.O. (AJ) -A.A. (S.C. (M.O.) ) & P.E (PODCAST) (J.J. (JAYE) & JAYE (C.M. (BOSCO) )
00:02:53.000They think that's what happened to South America.
00:02:55.000They think that's what happened to the Amazon.
00:02:57.000They think that the lost city of Z, the lost city of Zed, however you want to say it, they think that that was a massive civilization that existed in the Amazon, and then the European settlers came down, and just like they did with the Mayans, just like they did with the Native Americans,
00:03:12.000just like they did with it, they brought horrible fucking diseases and everybody died.
00:04:09.000No one had any immunity to it, and so these people who, the Europeans who were surviving with these diseases, came in and infected untold numbers of people.
00:04:18.000They don't even know how many people died from the plague in the Native American populations.
00:04:24.000They just think the estimate is somewhere in the neighborhood of 90 plus percent of all the people who are dead.
00:04:32.000But when, you know, by the time like the 1800s came around and they started trying to round them up and put them in reservations and all that horrible shit, there was way less.
00:04:43.000But like in 1550, in 1492, whatever, like how many, do they have any estimate of how many there were?
00:05:19.00060 million in 1492. Damn, that's a bright...
00:05:22.000Look at that TV. By combining all published estimates from populations throughout the Americas, we find a probable indigenous population of 60 million in 1492. Europe's population at the time was 70 to 88 million.
00:05:35.000What killed 90% of the Native American population between 50 and 160 smallpox?
00:05:41.000When the New Europeans arrived, carrying germs which thrived in dense semi-urban populations, the indigenous people, the Americans, were effectively doomed.
00:13:20.000Because the nightclubs weren't open, and that's where people were like, go to the nightclubs, but that's where I'd get it, but they're not really open right now.
00:13:27.000Yeah, so when we found some, we found some, and we were like, it took like a week and a half, two weeks, and we're like, fuck, we might not get some.
00:13:33.000We kept looking at people that were smoking, like, can we go up to them and say, can I buy some off you?
00:17:53.000If you know you've got to be in a plane for six hours, if you know you've got to be in a plane for six hours, you know you could just curl up in that chair and just be obliterated for five hours.
00:18:03.000The old breast strip days would get me, 25 would get me that for six hours.
00:18:57.000Or they call it something and you find out later what it actually is because they're too much of a nerd to actually know there's a new drug in the market.
00:20:22.000That's why when people say defund the police and use social workers to deal with domestic violence cases, I'm like, you're out of your fucking mind.
00:22:12.000There's a lot of those videos you can watch where cops are pulling people over and they say, license, and they're getting shot at before they even have a chance.
00:22:23.000The guy was just ready for him to come up.
00:22:24.000Guy in the backseat shooting out the window, tinted windows.
00:22:28.000That's why every time they go up to a car that has tinted windows, they're freaking the fuck out.
00:23:03.000I have to give you some repercussions.
00:23:06.000Or, you know, what if you pull over someone and you, you know, because you read their plate and maybe they're driving erratically and the guy reads their plate and he goes, oh, this is a wanted felon.
00:23:14.000So now you gotta hit the lights and maybe it's just you and your partner.
00:23:18.000And then, you know, you got a car with maybe four criminals in it who have guns.
00:23:29.000Because you see what's going on right now in New York City, where they've defunded the police, and they've got shootings all over the place, and their homicide rate is way up.
00:24:03.000Like, it used to be you can't have an open container on the street.
00:24:06.000I mean, when you talk about defund the police and the dangers of what they want to crack down on, can you imagine them cracking down on a Budweiser?
00:26:30.000As soon as I got my two weeks, I did it, told my mom, like, I'll perform outdoors until it's done.
00:26:35.000As soon as I got back, the shot the next day.
00:26:38.000Second that two-week thing was done, I think it was June 1st, I walked from my old apartment to my new apartment, stopped in the park, put some Palo Santo out, lit it up, burned a mask ceremoniously, and just said, I'm done with this.
00:29:48.000But those barocas are like, and it's not really available here in pharmacies, but all over Europe and Thailand too and like other places you can just get them.
00:29:57.000And it's just like one before you drink, one the next morning.
00:34:26.000Well, I've said this before, I'll say it again.
00:34:29.000Someone told me this, and it's a brilliant thing.
00:34:32.000The worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, even if it's not that bad.
00:34:37.000And that's the problem with everybody today.
00:34:39.000Well, yeah, you're pointing it at, I have this much anger, this much happiness, so you point it to whatever it is.
00:34:43.000And even also, the opposite happens, where if you're like, I mean, we'd see these houses in the Amazon and it was like, fuck, this is dank.
00:34:51.000But you're like, hey, we got a new, you know, chicken.
00:34:55.000Everyone's like still partying on the same level as you party when you get a Miata.
00:37:21.000Did you hear Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, said today that if you're banned from one social media platform, you should be banned from all of them?
00:37:29.000You should be banned from all of them.
00:37:31.000Yes, and everybody's like, what the fuck?
00:37:32.000Like, she's encouraging people to be banned from social media platforms?
00:37:35.000Also, what if you're just banned from, like, posting a dick or something?
00:37:38.000She's talking about it as disinformation, if you're banned for disinformation or misinformation.
00:38:52.000Or for Moderna or whoever the fuck is making these things.
00:38:54.000So if you're just- I'm not saying be cynical, but just be objective and understand that all of these companies, all of them, whether it's Pfizer or Moderna or Johnson& Johnson, they've all been in trouble for doing nefarious shit.
00:39:53.000They're telling you they're going to ban people from misinformation, and you should be banned from everything.
00:39:57.000The social media gets you into an algorithm that gets you into looking at, let's just say it's false information.
00:40:02.000It pushes you to seek out more and more of that false stuff, or like that side, or this side, or the right side, or the left side, or the upside.
00:41:24.000That's why I've always wondered, like, when hunting dogs, when they take dogs out, like, hunting birds and shit, and the dogs are out in the field, and they're just shooting shotguns off, like, what is that dog doing?
00:42:41.000I remember at concerts now, and they'll have places like Webster Hall.
00:42:45.000You just go to the bar for two bucks, you can get earplugs.
00:42:48.000I think they might all have them now, but you forget you have them in, you really shove them in there.
00:42:52.000And then when you come outside afterwards, you're still talking normal, and you pull it out, and you're just like, fuck, so many more levels.
00:42:58.000Isn't it crazy that concerts are so loud you have to have earplugs?
00:45:34.000But I saw them at Kraft Food and stuff, and I was like, you guys gonna go on?
00:45:39.000It was like 20 minutes later after they're supposed to, and they just kind of looked, and then they didn't know me, but I was like, you can just say you don't know yet.
00:45:47.000But eventually I did, and he got us in between Like, where the guys have to throw the mosh pitters back.
00:47:16.000Yes, then you had to get the science of putting amplifiers out into the crowd and doing the mass so that it's not echoing in the wrong way and feedback.
00:47:28.000When you're leaving the main stage at a festival going to the side stage and it gets softer and softer, then you hear nothing, then you hear the other stage louder and louder.
00:47:36.000It's really interesting how it just stops at a certain place.
00:48:49.000The Denver Comedy Works specifically, but Magoo, all of them, they cannot find help because of unemployment, because of whatever, part-time work.
00:48:56.000If you've ever wanted to work at a comedy club...
00:49:29.000My friend who owns a restaurant was saying that it's hard to get people, or it was up until recently, because they were still getting unemployment, and they didn't want to come back to work.
00:49:36.000And also, comedy clubs is Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
00:49:39.000You're not talking about full-time work.
00:49:40.000You're giving up the 300 bonus for 10 hours of work a week.
00:52:02.000Oh, yeah, so he got that $600 from Trump, and for the first time, everybody in New York was like, I mean, I don't know, I hate that, but let's get a drink.
00:52:49.000After the election was over, Bush was out, and they knew they were out, so Obama was coming in, and they just jacked the fucking price of gas up.
00:52:57.000And they're like, well, you know, the negotiations and the pipeline and this and that.
00:54:00.000They do this stuff where they juice up a virus and it's very dangerous research.
00:54:04.000And according to Josh Rogan from the Washington Post who was here, he explained it all to me and explained how Fauci was the guy that restarted all this shit.
00:54:11.000During the Obama administration, they put the kibosh on that.
00:54:45.000And in fact, there was three people that worked in that lab in November of 2019 who got really sick and one of them died, one of them's wife died rather, from coronavirus-like symptoms.
00:54:57.000So these were probably the first people that got hit with it.
00:55:01.000There was a lot of evidence that it came out of that lab.
00:55:03.000I had a cough in like January of 2019 that just wouldn't go away.
00:57:48.000If you have a really compromised immune system and your body is beaten up and you've been vaccinated, you still have a really compromised immune system.
00:57:55.000You still have a body that's been beaten up.
00:57:57.000If you've got a bunch of comorbidities and you're also vaccinated, you're probably still fucked, right?
00:58:03.000If you're morbidly obese and you're still vaccinated, it's not that magically protected.
00:58:20.000I saw him at Bonnaroo Music Festival, next to a stage, on a chair, just asleep, next to a band fucking, with all those amps, better than the Beatles had.
01:00:20.000Whiskey has high levels of polyphenols, plant-based antioxidants linked to lowering your risk of heart disease.
01:00:27.000The polyphenols in whiskey have been shown to decrease bad cholesterol, LDL, and increase good cholesterol, HDL levels, and reduce triglycerides or fat in your blood.
01:04:19.000And then one can't anymore, so they're like, no, you can't either.
01:04:21.000Well, it's not even just that one can't anymore.
01:04:24.000There are some people, whether it's men or women, because there's both, who they pretend they're really into something until they get close, and then they slowly start to...
01:12:59.000And so it's like, what an opportunity, you know?
01:13:01.000And they're like, why am I going back to work?
01:13:02.000It also gets you in this position where when you're looking at your life and you're looking at your future and you realize your job can just get taken away like that, right?
01:13:10.000If you're working at a restaurant or if you're working at a comedy club or somewhere where they just killed the business.
01:13:15.000And you're sitting there going, okay, I didn't like this job anyway, and now it can all be taken away from me because I need my own thing.
01:13:23.000I don't want to work for anybody anymore because so many companies went under during this COVID period.
01:13:29.000A lot of people started their own businesses.
01:13:53.000Look, I think that's one of the interesting things that's going on in this pandemic as well, is that New York City has basically decriminalized prostitution.
01:16:26.000Yeah, but imagine this guy's like some CEO at a hedge fund or some shit, and he's making, you know, $10 million a year or something crazy, and he'll throw her 2,500 bucks.
01:18:52.000That's a thing where you're taking advantage of someone because they don't have any other options.
01:18:56.000Did you notice when you went from young headliner to maybe even news radio, people treated you differently because you had money and they wanted to get some of it or to be around it?
01:19:09.000I have had the most ridiculous requests for me to help people start their businesses.
01:19:27.000I've had people ask me to invest in their business and they'll pay me back the money that I gave them and not even give me any extra money.
01:19:35.000Oh, just like it's a loan to help me out.
01:21:05.000I'll get to know someone just barely, like a guy that I met at the gym or a guy that I met at the gun range or a guy that I met, like those kind of guys.
01:21:13.000And then all of a sudden they're telling friends, like maybe I like...
01:21:18.000I had like an internet exchange with them.
01:21:20.000Like they sent me a DM. I sent him a DM back.
01:21:24.000And then all of a sudden they're telling people they're good friends with me and they can guarantee that I'll come to an event.
01:21:29.000And then they're trying to get me to go to this event.
01:21:31.000And then someone at the event says, hey man, just so you know, this guy is saying he's your good friend and he can guarantee that you'll come to that event if he gets X amount for this and X amount for that and access to this or access to that.
01:24:56.000When you're so tired, and you got, like, five more sets to go, and you got a timer that's going off, and, like, you're doing rounds in the bag.
01:25:58.000You were doing yesterday's making some dumb point, and then, like, Ecuadorian elections, and you're like, dude, I couldn't understand you normally.
01:29:58.000These are like, I mean, that's a tiny section of it, but mostly this is like cool, interesting products and tapestries and like these weird Inti Rami masks.
01:34:49.000I asked him a question about natural wine, and then I gave him the phone to see Maynard's response, because Maynard wakes wines, and I get the phone back, and Ari had sent to Maynard, I suck cock.
01:35:01.000You just gotta go fast on these things.
01:40:46.000And then when that conversation starts, how do you end that in normal conversation?
01:40:49.000Not in a podcast, but in normal conversation, where it's going to politics, the most boring fucking subject, or race, or something, where you're like, oh, this is just gonna go...
01:41:16.000I think there's a trend in civilization period where people are trying to be nicer.
01:41:21.000And I think one of the things that's going on with cancel culture that actually gives me hope is they're canceling people because they're saying those people are assholes.
01:41:29.000Like all of it is catching people doing something that they shouldn't be doing.
01:41:34.000Now, the bad part about it is that a lot of the people that are doing it are really fucked up people, and they're not compassionate, and they're not kind, and they're not forgiving.
01:41:44.000They're going against what Martin Luther King said.
01:41:48.000You can't fight darkness with darkness, only with light.
01:41:50.000And they're, nah, fight it with darkness.
01:41:52.000There's a lot of fools who don't understand violence, and they don't understand conflict, and they're involved in a lot of this.
01:41:59.000And also, they're doing it through this proxy.
01:42:01.000You're doing it through social media, which is this really weird way to have conflict with people.
01:42:06.000But then you see that conflict spill out into real world, like the Black Lives Matter protests, or the Antifa protests, or all these different...
01:42:14.000You see real-world consequences for this kind of online rhetoric.
01:42:20.000But overall, all of it, whether it's Black Lives Matter or whether it's even like the idea of Antifa, they're not trying to make the world a worse place.
01:43:05.000But the intention behind it is almost all to do better, to have society be better.
01:43:13.000I think even those MAGA shitheads, I think even those dummies that stormed the Capitol, they thought they were going to make the world a better place.
01:43:19.000They're not trying to make the world a worse place.
01:43:20.000They thought in their head that the election was stolen and they were going to storm the Capitol in a show of force and somehow or another was going to turn around and Trump's going to be president again.
01:43:48.000What they're trying to do is all that.
01:43:50.000When Hitler was trying to exterminate the Jews, there's not a fucking way you can spin that where he was trying to make the world a better place.
01:44:00.000There's not a way you can spin that, where you're dehumanizing people to the point where you're turning the entire culture on one group of people that have a certain religious belief.
01:44:14.000What we're getting today is you think Some people are evil because of their ideology, their political ideology, or you think some people are foolish or short-sighted, but I think ultimately people are trying, they want- Pushing for the good.
01:44:28.000Yeah, even the assholes that want to defund the police.
01:44:31.000They think that the police are bad and they're causing problems, they want less problems, but they just don't know jack shit about law enforcement.
01:44:39.000The guy that I was talking to, my friend who used to be a cop, was telling me about the guy strangling the guy.
01:45:28.000I think the tactics are incorrect and a lot of people are misled because they're trying to do things and they're trying to do things in this weird age of social media, in this weird age of these collective groups where people get together and they try to share a mindset and a philosophy and a lot of times it's dumb.
01:45:48.000You know, a lot of times they're trying to rehash shit that's already been tried out in other countries like Marxism or socialism.
01:45:58.000One of the things that we were talking about yesterday was Shane.
01:46:00.000We were talking about a lot of people that attack people online.
01:46:03.000These people were really abused when they were young.
01:46:06.000A lot of these people, they're abused by either their family, they're abused by bullies at school, or they're abused by relationships they had, whatever the fuck it is.
01:46:16.000They have this anger in them and they want to take it out on other people.
01:46:19.000And so there's sort of this exaggerated rage that's not necessarily indicative of what is actually going on.
01:46:44.000I think all these e-rages are just like a couple people talking and then far, far more, like a hundred, two hundred, two thousand times that people weighing in on what the small, small amount of people actually...
01:46:55.000No one's actually that upset about Aunt Jemima.
01:46:58.000There's also a lot of cowards out there.
01:51:43.000And so then everyone's like, well, where were you?
01:51:45.000So these gays are getting elevated into the editor.
01:51:48.000And then somebody else is like, as a Vietnamese adoptee in America, I feel like you marginalized my voice, you fucking gay.
01:51:57.000Because all it is, is if I don't take your story, you've marginalized me.
01:52:01.000And so it's just attack, attack, attack, attack, attack.
01:52:04.000And you have Alison Roman, who's fucking done, can't work in the New York Times anymore, living in northern New York, can't live in New York City anymore.
01:52:10.000And then her accuser, Chrissy Teigen, who fucking says, kill yourself to a statutory rape victim.
01:52:16.000There's none of that thing where it's like, if you kill the head vampire, you get off.
01:53:37.000This is no longer the show that I used to have where back in the day when I was just doing it in my house and we were on a couch in my spare bedroom.
01:54:50.000And he just decided he needed to stop drinking and wanted to lose weight and didn't know anybody out there and he just started doing Muay Thai.
01:54:56.000And this is right after he canceled Bill Cosby.
02:01:33.000That sort of thing also happens at, used to happen at Comedy Central, where you have the people working there go, hey, why don't you hire some more of this, more of that?
02:01:41.000And they're frozen because they can't go, hey, this comic, I don't even see this shit, is really, I had, I was supposed to have Reggie Conquist's comic open for me in Baltimore a couple weeks ago.
02:02:52.000You have social pressure of how to act, but it's not actually anyone on staff.
02:02:56.000But that shit that happens at Comedy Central, the shit that happens at Bon Appetit, you also have that happening at the New York Times, which really legitimately does choose the way people think.
02:03:34.000So now everyone at the New York Times has to cross-reference their stories with like, hey, you're a black reporter here.
02:03:41.000Can you read this to make sure this is all okay?
02:03:43.000And the black reporter's like, dude, I'm not fucking putting my name on that in case there's something you wrote wrong.
02:03:48.000So they're all bending over backwards to make sure the 25-year-old is coddled, is okay.
02:03:54.000And they're choosing how everyone thinks about the world.
02:03:58.000So you'll see, even if they go a little bit more, let's say conservative leaning, or like, not even like, socially conservative leaning, they'll also finish it with, but you know, you also have to finish, you have to account for the other.
02:04:10.000They can't just do that because they're afraid of those two girls.
02:04:14.000They're afraid of them because they're running things.
02:04:22.000I think rational people that are actual real human beings, they can have a conversation like we're having, where they're talking shit, but when we're serious, you can tell that we're being serious about these things.
02:04:32.000Well, we're in the in-between time, where we're still, we're raised thinking New York Times is the truth, so we're still like trying to, uh, uh, uh, and then now it's slowly shifting.
02:04:41.000We're in the in-between, we're still looking to a place that's no longer giving us the truth for the truth.
02:04:45.000And then soon we'll be like, we're ignoring you completely.
02:06:17.000Yeah, all these networks are just so saddled down.
02:06:19.000I mean, if they got involved in the podcasting world, how quickly would they fuck it up?
02:06:23.000Like, imagine if Comedy Central started producing podcasts.
02:06:26.000Like, what if Comedy Central came in, swooped in, and all the executives from Comedy Central that were fucking with your show are fucking with all these different shows.
02:06:35.000What exactly was the fallout with you and them?
02:06:38.000I'm forgetting now why you wound up leaving that show.
02:07:08.000You sold your special to Netflix instead of Comedy Central, and they were negotiating with you, as was Netflix, but Netflix paid a lot more money and it's a lot more exposure.
02:09:04.000That when things like that happen, I swear to God, dude, I have like a file that I put that kind of stupid shit and I just shut the door and I just keep moving.
02:12:07.000And I would've paid them, and I worked it off.
02:12:09.000I would've paid you back, and I would've worked it off, and I would've said, hey everybody, Viacom has made it, so I am now broke, because I had to pay everybody, and I would've called their bluff, and they wouldn't, the other people wouldn't fucking do it.
02:13:18.000When J.B. Smoove and him, when I started doing Black Rooms and stuff a little bit, when they were both crushing to the point of crying and choking, J.B. Smoove is not doing stand-up anymore.
02:14:16.000So when you would get a gig for like a college, I would literally be on the phone with the booking agency, it was probably like Barry Katz Company, Boston Comedy, and I would have a pad and a pen of paper.
02:14:28.000And they would go, okay, you take this highway, To this exit, exit 35. Remember those days?
02:14:34.000And then you go five miles and you go down this road for six miles and you take the right-hand turn to this street.
02:16:11.000There was this guy who was a fireman who was weeping, openly weeping, talking about how his house was just, like, miraculously spared, and then, like, maybe his neighbor's house was spared, and then, like, the guy across the street was gone,
02:16:26.000and five other houses were gone, and then two other houses.
02:16:29.000You could see, like, this fire just, like, haphazard, just like the last fire.
02:16:32.000They just, they jump, and embers land on roofs, and they light everything on fire, and then there's this little girl walking around, and she was calling out for her dog.
02:17:05.000Like I said, I was 23 or 24 and they were probably like 20. And they brought me in and they just, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Joe Rogan.
02:22:43.000The more you don't appreciate yourself, the less you're likely to puff yourself up.
02:22:49.000So the more you're likely to critique yourself, so the more you're likely to tighten everything up and make sure your bits are the best they could possibly be.
02:22:58.000Anywhere you see him on your lineup, you're going to have a great night if you go.
02:23:04.000But like, he'll do things too where like...
02:23:09.000We're like, he'll tackle subjects that aren't, so a lot of comics, now that it's more easily able to film specials, they're like always forming your special, you know?
02:25:06.000Well, if we find them, we'll broadcast them.
02:25:09.000That's one of the cool things about our group, at least.
02:25:11.000Like, when we find someone who's really good, we don't suppress a fucking thing.
02:25:14.000That's one of the saddest things when you meet a comic who suppresses whether or not someone's good or not, and they try to pretend someone's not that good when you know they're a murderer.
02:25:23.000I try to post, I'm always looking for like, I have this problem with Instagram.
02:25:27.000I'm off Twitter, but on Instagram, I'm like, I don't want to do anything serious.
02:32:09.000Like they say, he'll do great, but he could have taken over that show.
02:32:16.000Did you see when Norm Macdonald went after SNL? Norm Macdonald went after SNL and he posted a clip of Gillian Keeves, a genius clip, and he said, this is better than anything that SNL's done.
02:32:29.000And he put this up, you fucking idiots, you lost this guy.
02:32:49.000It kind of bummed me out, though, because there was a moment on the podcast where he said that he was hoping that I was going to come and save him.
02:32:55.000He said, I was hoping I was going to come and have him on my podcast.
02:35:03.000His bit that he did about taking a Vicodin and a girl with one leg sucked his dick and he shot a nut in her eye and she got dizzy from the Vicodin...
02:39:52.000You were giving us $150, which, I mean, I should be making $50 a show to MC. You were giving me $150, like, now you're a headliner, which I've tried to do myself for people.
02:40:02.000You were like, hey, you're getting $150, you're a headliner, you should get headline money.
02:40:05.000And then at some point, I was at Pink Dot when I got the call.
02:42:25.000It wasn't just like it happened completely without me.
02:42:27.000It's like, your help's like, hey, some of the work I put in there, if you're a grip on a movie that wins an Oscar, you're like, I helped with that.
02:49:38.000I don't know, an hour and a half or so.
02:49:39.000And then I started getting nauseous, but I'm trying to choke it down, like, don't, don't.
02:49:43.000And then it hit me like, oh, I think I'm supposed to, like, supposed to throw up.
02:49:48.000So I kind of, like, pitch black, I mean, away from the fire, went to the edge, and then, like, you know how you can, like, sort of, like, and then barfed, like, a little bit, and then just unloaded.
02:50:01.000I was afraid it would be like retching and retching.
02:51:19.000And an occasional, like, real splash of, like, vivid neon light And then I started seeing these like orbs kind of like going up into the fractals.
02:51:30.000And then the more I look forward and back, I'm on my back, the more I look forward, backwards, side to side, there's just hundreds or thousands of these orbs, these small orbs going up into the fractals and just sort of like playing with each other.
02:51:44.000These orbs, they were kind of like had a life to them.
02:51:48.000So, like, and then at some point, from me comes this orb and sort of, like, goes up.
02:51:53.000And then I started examining what the orbs are.
02:52:32.000In golf, Jamie, you might know, it's like when you fucking hit one and you're just like fucking up, but you're like, I can't hit the green from here.
02:52:39.000You do see it go perfectly and bounce.
02:52:42.000And it's just a pure moment Of artistic expression.
02:52:45.000And generally, when I see that, it makes me cry.
02:52:47.000When I listen to Nevermind, I tear up.
02:53:55.000You made this thing, and that's the orb.
02:53:57.000And what you want is to make it, for sure.
02:54:00.000What you also want is some recognition.
02:54:03.000You want someone to say, like, if you hit that golf shot, you look around, like if you're playing by yourself, and somebody in the next seat is like, dude, fucking nice one.
02:55:52.000And I cried hard for that, for this not happening.
02:55:56.000Not so much for the loss, but for like, For like when I was able to I was able to step back and go like it's done now I made it and it hit me like oh damn dude that was fucking good and I just kind of said goodbye to it and that orb went up and and played for eternity every time you do something like artistically pure like that and nail it you pure it those things are up there
02:56:26.000in the heavens in the whatever They're playing with each other.
02:56:32.000All the forms, the guy at Disney, the guy who made the Basilica, fucking Kurt Cobain, never mind, not Kurt Cobain, never mind, is up there playing with each other, enjoying each other's company forever.
02:56:46.000And I saw myself in 50 years dead and the orbs are still playing.
02:56:52.000And I'm decaying and the orbs are still playing.
02:56:56.000And I was able to sort of like put that behind me and say I'll move on to my next thing because what I want to do is I want to make things.
02:59:51.000And so then I was like, So I was like, Mitzi, what you made, the comedy store, it was a place for me, Renizzisi, Duncan, and we were like lost souls.
03:00:07.000Simone calls it the Island of Misfit Toys.
03:03:38.000And I mean, I was just like, I mean, thank you for helping me survive this.
03:03:45.000I'm 20 years in now, and I wouldn't have made it past any, like, you're not good enough for Montreal, you're not, it would have all crushed me too hard.
03:03:54.000But she crushed me so hard that none of this, it doesn't seem like a lot to be like, you're not a paid regular, who cares, based on what we have now.
03:04:01.000But it meant, the level of what it meant was as big as anything was.
03:04:08.000And so then it hit me like one of my types of art is not just my things.
03:04:15.000On This Is Not Happening, I had some good stories.
03:09:15.000Do you think you were really talking to her spirit?
03:09:17.000Or do you think you were talking to the love that you had for her?
03:09:21.000I am aware of what it would sound like to say this, but the next day when I was going over it and I was explaining it, my partner and I were talking about our different experiences, vastly different.
03:09:39.000I know what it sounds like, but I talked to her, man.
03:09:43.000I talked to her, and she appreciated the fucking attaboy.
03:09:46.000She appreciated somebody seeing that what she did was good.
03:09:49.000And I told Peter, I ran into Peter recently, randomly at the Apple Store in fucking New York.
03:10:10.000But I told him that, and he goes, that's interesting, because she always kind of felt like when people referenced her, they didn't give her credit for the help.
03:10:20.000They would say so-and-so, here or there, and let him be like, oh, Mitzi, remember her, whatever, how's she doing?
03:10:23.000But she didn't feel like she ever got the, thank you for giving up your life to do this for us.
03:10:30.000We know you didn't have a normal life, and you helped us be this thing.
03:12:25.000I swear to God, from the first time I ever got on stage, when I decided I was going to be a comic, it was like after the first time I ever got on stage.
03:15:26.000Even though the comedy store is filled with It was just like every now and then Damon Wayans would show up or Martin Lawrence would show up or Dom Herrera or Dice.
03:15:34.000They would come in and kill and you would see real comedy.
03:15:41.000I was getting up and it was better that way because it was like if I came there in like 2016 when I had come back for two years and it was packed every night.
03:16:14.000There were so many comedians that didn't like other comedians.
03:16:17.000There was a lot of people that were just so angry that other people were making it.
03:16:21.000They were so angry that other people got television shows and it was still the remnants of the 90s where everybody was just trying to get on a sitcom and when somebody else got on a sitcom, the other comics, especially the mediocre ones, they took it like you took something from them.
03:16:54.000They weren't like, they weren't a brotherhood or a sisterhood.
03:16:57.000They were looking at everybody like, Yeah well like they weren't getting what they deserve they had this thought that they wouldn't they weren't getting the recognition that they deserved and that's why when established people would come there and Mitzi would go get rid of her Get rid of them.
03:20:41.000If I did a good show that night, then I'd want someone who's mediocre so I could come in, back clean up, and make everybody look like I'm the hero.
03:23:28.000And he would go on hold, and I'd just be, you know, I was a single guy.
03:23:31.000Living at home with my feet up on my desk, talking and dunking on the phone.
03:23:34.000And I had a headset back then with a cord.
03:23:36.000You plug a cord into the bottom of the headset, and I had this like, I was a secretary.
03:23:40.000So that's one of the things you did, is make it so you could find each other.
03:23:43.000Yeah, she made it so that we could find each other and my thing was always from martial arts You need a team you need training partners you need every you need people that are really good around you to inspire you and you need The people that are learning you need to help them because they're gonna get better and that'll make you better So my thought was that with everybody like door guys and parking lot attendants everybody was just us It was all the same.
03:24:10.000The store specifically has a lineage of door guys to Kinison.
03:24:29.000Some comics didn't have that feeling with those people, and it drove me nuts, man.
03:24:34.000I used to get really upset when I'd see comics being dismissive of door guys, or not giving them a pound, or not shaking hands, not saying, what's up?
03:28:19.000And Mike Vecchione, who's one of the best joke writers in New York.
03:28:22.000He is someone who makes us all better joke writers by watching him.
03:28:26.000He consistently crushes, doesn't have the networking skills to get ahead.
03:28:30.000So, if I just tell you, I've thought this out, dude.
03:28:34.000If I just tell you they're great, you might look him up.
03:28:36.000Here's what I'm asking you to do, the listeners and the watchers of Joe Rogan Podcast.
03:28:41.000I want you to call your comedy clubs, your local comedy clubs, and I want you to tell them, because they're not going to book them just based on a recommendation.
03:28:48.000I want you to tell them, I will give you my email address, and you can use it only if Adrian Appalucci, Sean Patton, or Mike Vecchione are playing in your city.
03:29:00.000I will give you my email address, which is what they want more than anything.
03:29:05.000Everybody, call your local comedy club.
03:29:10.000I will give you my email address for this reason.
03:29:13.000Comedy club owners, you can launch them.
03:29:16.000Give them their bonuses, even if they get close.
03:29:18.000Get loyal with these people because they should be stars and you can help make them stars.
03:29:23.000You can also help them get to the point where for an Adrian's sake, she's not thinking of quitting comedy because she can't make her fucking rent.
03:29:30.000You can help them Comedy Club fans, I have never lied to you about someone who has talent.
03:29:37.000Call your local club, tell them where I live, and I will give you my address based on this alone.