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00:00:49.000Yes, okay, so let me, this is my favorite booze, and not just my favorite Mexican booze, my all-time favorite booze, and nobody likes it except for me, so even in Sayulita, which is, oh, this is where I'm living now,
00:04:53.000I first started talking about it back in like 2016, 2017, because the Liberal government was pushing through Bill C-16, which was our gender identity legislation.
00:05:04.000So they were trying to, and succeeded in, because the bill passed, incorporate gender identity into the Human Rights Code and the Criminal Code.
00:05:15.000And I went and testified against that bill To say, like, this bill shouldn't pass.
00:05:23.000It'll have a negative impact on women's rights, which of course it did.
00:05:26.000For people who don't know what the bill, what it means, could you explain what it means?
00:05:30.000Because some folks aren't hip to the argument.
00:06:02.000Like, it didn't specifically say, for example, you know, if you misgender somebody, that's a hate crime or hate speech or something like that.
00:06:10.000All it did was to say that gender identity and gender expression essentially needed to be protected under the law, just like whatever race...
00:11:12.000There's the example that I bring up when I talk about this idea that you can just ban people for saying things that are factually correct, maybe politically insensitive, you know, depending upon the current climate, but factually correct,
00:11:31.000Maybe you might say that it's not kind, but what is wrong with being, are we really deciding that there's certain rules that we want to apply in regards to progressive thinking that bypass or supersede biology?
00:12:51.000If you want to dress in women's clothes, if you want to wear makeup, if you want to get cosmetic surgeries, if you want to change your name, go for it.
00:12:58.000Like, do whatever makes you feel better.
00:14:41.000And he is messaging these women on Facebook.
00:14:45.000I think sometimes under a fake photo and name.
00:14:49.000So maybe with a woman's photo and a woman's name that's not him.
00:14:53.000And then they would realize that he was a man, I guess maybe if they talked to him on the phone or something like that, and they'd be like, no, sorry, we don't offer this service to men.
00:15:00.000And he would accuse them of transphobia and essentially try to extort money out of them.
00:15:04.000And when that didn't work, I guess he decided he wanted to, I mean, again, he's a crazy person, so we can't take this as representative of very much other than the fact that he's like a grifter and a crazy person.
00:15:14.000But, you know, to take them all to the Human Rights Tribunal to say he's being discriminated against.
00:15:20.000But this is exactly, exactly the perfect example of what happens if you just say anybody's a woman and you just have to accept it.
00:16:14.00020 minutes after I was banned, Pink News, which is like a LGBT queer news site, they post an article saying, Twitter has a new rule against misgendering and deadnaming.
00:16:29.000And I was like, oh, this is a really funny coincidence that this went up 20 minutes after I was banned for some rule that they didn't specify, but I can only assume was misgendering.
00:18:10.000People love those little acronyms, too, because it makes them feel like they're a part of some little group that knows these things and other people don't know these things.
00:18:20.000Yeah, and that acronym doesn't even make sense because it's applied.
00:18:26.000I've never identified as a radical feminist.
00:18:29.000I don't have anything against radical feminists, per se.
00:18:32.000What is a radical feminist versus a regular feminist?
00:18:37.000I mean, technically, the word radical is meant in this context to get at the root.
00:18:43.000So the difference, radical feminists would say, the difference between radical feminism and liberal feminism would be that they want to upend the whole system of patriarchy rather than just changing some of the surface things like legislation and things like that.
00:19:09.000I mean, I don't think most of them are violent, but some of them are probably violent, or some of them would want a violent revolution to overthrow the patriarchy.
00:19:18.000Even when Antifa's violent, they're violent, like, you know, little small doughy people.
00:19:23.000You just think that because you know that you could beat them up, but I don't think that when they're...
00:19:37.000Like, they've shown up at my events before to protest, and they're quite threatening and, you know, I kind of do find them scary because I find them unhinged.
00:19:49.000And they obviously have perpetrated violence.
00:19:52.000Like, Antifa was responsible for a whole bunch of violence during all the BLM stuff in the summer.
00:19:58.000And I, you know, I'm not as strong as you are because I'm female.
00:20:22.000They're all like either like really fat or really scrawny and really fucked up and they're wearing masks and screaming nonsensical shit.
00:20:31.000And loving the fact that they found others like them and that they're all willing to participate in this anarchy and trying to Burn it all down.
00:20:40.000And because of their cute little name, anti-fascist, how could you disagree with them?
00:21:33.000That's a big aspect of a lot of this stuff.
00:21:36.000I always used to think of progressive people and people with progressive ideas as being compassionate people.
00:21:42.000That's the reason why they had these progressive ideas, whether it's about welfare or whether it's about civil rights or equal rights, whatever it is.
00:21:51.000I thought it was like compassionate, kind people that wanted other people to have better opportunities and do better.
00:21:56.000But when you realize that it's, no, it's people who have decided upon a tribe and they've subscribed to a predetermined set of opinions and then they use that to be a fucking douchebag and attack other people.
00:22:11.000That's a lot of what's going on with the right and the left, with both sides.
00:22:16.000I mean, it's interesting because what they're doing is they're seeking power.
00:22:22.000I think these are like ugly loser misfits who were unpopular in high school and are really fucking pissed off and want to get their revenge and so they're using politics to do it.
00:24:33.000There's a big aspect, a big cult-like aspect to this.
00:24:36.000Yeah, it's a strange time because through social media people get to find other people that agree with them and they form these little attack groups.
00:24:49.000They form these little echo chambers and they reinforce their opinions and they use that to target people that they find that disagree with them or they find that have opposing viewpoints.
00:25:03.000And the way they do it is really nasty.
00:25:06.000It's really nasty and really shitty and it's not compassionate at all.
00:25:09.000It's not in a line with anything that I ever thought of as being progressive or being open-minded or liberal.
00:26:51.000I think porn, I know you didn't ask me about this, but too bad.
00:26:58.000I think porn's bad for men, I think it's bad for relationships, for the most part.
00:27:04.000In any case, I did a lot of writing around pornography, about prostitution.
00:27:10.000I advocate for a model that's called the Nordic Model, which criminalizes essentially the exploiters, so it criminalizes pimps, johns, broth owners, traffickers.
00:27:44.000And this is what the left was really angry at me about for the most part but they also of course accused me of being like a white supremacist and a transphobe and everything else because they like to just pile everything.
00:27:54.000I was talking to my friend Ari about this and he was saying that he knows people in New York specifically where girls have men that they have sex with For money.
00:28:07.000They've become friends with them and they have like these little relationship deals with them where they'll meet them and then maybe these guys have other relationships or maybe these guys are really busy and they don't want a relationship for whatever reason.
00:28:22.000They just want to pay for sex and have it a clean transaction and these women will do it with like several different guys and that is how they get by.
00:29:06.000If it genuinely makes her happy, then go for it.
00:29:10.000If it's better than working at Wendy's.
00:29:12.000Well, and it is better than working at Wendy's financially, probably.
00:29:16.000I think that that relationship and that transaction is totally unhealthy and inhumane, and I think that it obviously treats sex as something that is separate from the human.
00:29:38.000So, you're having sex with somebody, but you're not engaging in a relationship with them.
00:29:42.000You're just using their body, essentially.
00:29:43.000Which I think is weird, because we're more than just bodies.
00:29:46.000We're not like, you know, our brains are, you know, it's all connected.
00:29:50.000We have emotions, we have desires, we have feelings.
00:29:52.000And I think if you're having sex with somebody, you sort of need to be accountable to them in some way and be considering that they have feelings and desires and needs of their own.
00:30:00.000I don't think that it's healthy for sex to be treated as just a physical thing.
00:30:04.000And I'm not saying Like, sex can't just be fun and just a physical thing.
00:30:09.000Like, I've had lots of casual sex in my life.
00:30:17.000But, you know, I don't think it has to be like this romantic exchange every time.
00:30:22.000It's not like you have to be married, like you have to be like staring into each other's eyes and like, I love you, I love you, I love you.
00:30:28.000But I think that it's a really unhealthy thing for society to normalize sex as being something transactional.
00:30:36.000And I think these women probably are going to have problems down the line.
00:30:39.000Like, it's like, yeah, right now this might be fine.
00:30:41.000Same thing with women who do porn are like, oh yeah, this is fine, great.
00:30:44.000And it's like, okay, talk to me in 10 years and tell me how you feel when you reflect back.
00:30:48.000Like, the decisions that we make, we can make all sorts of bad decisions when we're 20. And this can be applicable to probably casual sex, too.
00:30:57.000I think that there are kind of mental and emotional repercussions from engaging in those kinds of relationships that people pretend don't exist.
00:31:06.000I don't think that it could make you feel really good about yourself when a man is like paying for access to your body and not considering you as a human and how you feel and what you actually want.
00:31:19.000And you're having sex that you don't enjoy.
00:31:21.000Why would you want to have sex that you don't enjoy?
00:31:58.000But I started to question feminism and the work that I was doing because I started to feel like there were questions that I couldn't answer and I wasn't being challenged enough.
00:32:10.000So I appreciate you challenging me on this stuff, but I've sort of started to move away from feminism a bit in the past few years, partly because I just felt like I was repeating myself over and over and over again and like preaching to the choir and none of these people were asking me any questions.
00:32:27.000And I was like, if I was having an argument with somebody who like didn't believe in patriarchy, they were like, what's a patriarchy?
00:32:35.000I was like, would I be able to answer that question?
00:32:38.000I don't actually think I can, so maybe I should stop saying this word over and over and over again.
00:32:42.000It's a word that's supposed to put the brakes on any argument.
00:32:48.000It's one of those words like, because of the patriarchy.
00:34:41.000But I don't agree with this delusion that everybody is capable of the same things, has the same skills, and they do that in feminism a lot.
00:34:51.000They sort of pretend like everyone should have an equal say, and it's a really big problem within the movement.
00:35:00.000I'm getting sort of meta here a bit, but You know, feminism can be very, like, pro-collective and advocates, you know, like, collective decision-making and things like that, which is crazy because if you're working in a collective and some women are,
00:35:16.000you know, 50 or 60 years old, they've been doing this work for a really long time.
00:35:20.000If you're 50 or 60 years old, you probably know in general a lot more about Life and your work than a 20-year-old does.
00:35:28.000And yet, within a collective, everybody has an equal say.
00:35:32.000So, you know, the 20-year-old who just joined your collective has just as much to say and it's equally as legitimate as what this 60-year-old...
00:35:46.000I don't know if this is, like, another, like...
00:35:50.000Yeah, I have all these problems with feminism that I've sort of been trying to like address and articulate of late and I've gotten pretty attacked over it because people are used to me saying a certain thing and I've stopped saying those things and started asking questions and challenging things and people don't like it when you do that.
00:36:20.000And then if you step out, you were an ally, air quotes, and then all of a sudden you step out of the orthodoxy and you're starting to...
00:36:27.000Say, well, maybe this is bullshit because maybe young people are filled with hubris and maybe one of the reasons why they're into Marxism is because they haven't accumulated any wealth yet and they would like everybody to have no wealth because they don't have any wealth.
00:36:43.000And then as you see, as they gain wealth, which is one of the more slippery things about people as they get older, I like having money.
00:37:44.000Well, it's very rewarding when your effort gets paid off by something very tangible, like financial success.
00:37:54.000And the idea that we're not all in it for some sort of reinforcement, whether it's monetary reinforcement, societal reinforcement, When you're doing something and you're putting out work, you're doing it for incentives.
00:38:06.000You're not just doing it to just survive.
00:38:19.000So if we pass that and you can accumulate more things, you could buy nice clothes, you could buy a TV, you could get a computer, who's to decide where that ends?
00:39:06.000And this is the whole reason why we have innovation and why our society moves forth and why people put in a lot of effort and make extraordinary leaps and gains in their life.
00:39:24.000Yeah, and I mean, the idea that, like, you shouldn't have to work hard.
00:39:29.000I mean, working hard to achieve something like financial success is great.
00:39:34.000Because, yeah, why would you do all this work for nothing, just out of the good of your heart?
00:39:38.000Like, most people aren't going to do that.
00:39:39.000Maybe there's some people who are incredibly charitable, but most people aren't going to do that.
00:39:43.000But also, you know, it sort of erases the reality that, like, working really hard and achieving something and getting better at something is actually very, like, self-fulfilling.
00:39:56.000It helps you get to know yourself, which also builds confidence.
00:40:00.000And this is what these leftists are all doing, essentially.
00:40:05.000All of these, I mean, especially the younger leftists.
00:40:10.000It's like, you shouldn't have to challenge yourself.
00:40:13.000You shouldn't have to do anything that scares you.
00:40:15.000You shouldn't have to do anything that's hard.
00:40:17.000You should be comfortable all the time and everything should just be given to you.
00:40:20.000I mean, all these, what is it, like Generation Z? I almost said Millennials, but every time I say Millennials, people scream at me and they're like, we're not Millennials!
00:40:41.000It's like, oh, all these older people with their houses and their money and their jobs and all we have is debt and climate change and nothing.
00:41:27.000They're like, why don't I have a house?
00:41:28.000That's part of the culture of, you know, participation trophies and this coddled helicopter parent culture where kids Haven't experienced, you know, in general.
00:41:41.000They haven't experienced as much hardship as people of previous generations.
00:41:44.000As much difficulty in getting through life.
00:41:47.000And also they've been told, each one of them, that they're special and unique.
00:41:51.000And told things like body positivity, which is one of my favorites.
00:42:44.000I think if you actually tried to explain what non-binary means, which most of them can't in any kind of cohesive way, you would discover that everybody is a bit non-binary.
00:42:55.000Like, I don't subscribe fully to femininity.
00:42:59.000You know, I'm obviously not a very passive person.
00:43:05.000Yeah, shout out to my trainer Chris at Quilombo in Sailita.
00:43:14.000You have to come visit us, by the way.
00:43:15.000It's actually, it's a Muay Thai gym, I was telling you before the show, but he's doing jujitsu tournaments there.
00:43:21.000So they just did the white belt tournament and then they'll move up and I think probably by around March they'll do the black belt tournament.
00:43:32.000Okay, so in Sayulita, like I think people who actually live there year-round is probably, I'm probably going to get this wrong, but like maybe around like 2,500.
00:46:46.000There's two bills, I think, Bill C36 and Bill C10. And one of them is to regulate online speech.
00:46:56.000So what it would do is it would force platforms like YouTube or Twitter or Facebook to take down content that the Canadian government deemed to be hate speech.
00:47:22.000And the other one is about changing hate speech laws.
00:47:29.000I mean, they're working so hard to limit free speech in Canada, and nobody cares.
00:47:37.000Canadians are the most passive people I have ever encountered, and they have no idea why any of these things are important.
00:47:46.000Before I moved to Mexico, I was thinking about moving to the US, like to Texas, for example, because I think it's going in a really, really dangerous direction and nobody's doing anything or saying anything, or very few people in any case.
00:48:02.000And this is our, you know, progressive, like, feminist prime minister.
00:48:08.000People really, really trust the government.
00:48:11.000So all these ongoing restrictions that were happening during COVID, they...
00:48:16.000People genuinely believe that the government has their best interests in mind, and they think that if they just keep following the rules, then things will work out for them, even if that's irrational, even if they've seen, we've been following the rules this whole time, and nothing's changed,
00:48:31.000we're not being given our freedoms back, in fact, they're working to take away more of our freedoms, you know.
00:48:37.000It's illegal to say that you can't gather with other people, like you can't have religious gatherings, that you can't go to church, that you can't protest.
00:48:45.000And that's what they did over COVID, right?
00:48:47.000Like this BLM protest that happened during COVID is fine.
00:48:51.000But this, you know, like anti-lockdown protest is illegal, essentially.
00:48:58.000And people don't see why that's a problem.
00:49:44.000If someone has an ideological or a physiological reason for not getting vaccinated, I don't want to force them to get vaccinated to see a fucking stupid comedy show.
00:49:58.000No, I mean, people should be able to make their own choices about their health and their bodies.
00:50:03.000But beyond that, I mean, vaccine mandates don't even work.
00:50:05.000Like, I think in Sweden they've never had mandates, and yet more people are vaccinated in Sweden.
00:50:11.000Like, they have a super high vaccination rate.
00:50:14.000I mean, when you're telling somebody you have to do this, I think there is going to be some kind of questioning.
00:50:20.000Obviously not for a lot of people who are, like, eagerly getting on board.
00:50:23.000But, I mean, speaking personally, I'm much less likely to do something if someone tells me I have to.
00:50:28.000You're like, no, you don't tell me what to do.
00:50:54.000And, you know, and Trudeau just announced the other day that all government employees essentially were going to have to be vaccinated to work.
00:51:04.000What about government employees that have gotten COVID and recovered?
00:53:29.000I think there's some interesting evidence that shows that prophylactically it's very effective.
00:53:35.000It's very effective to stop people from getting it.
00:53:38.000There was a study out of Argentina I believe, where they give it to frontline healthcare workers.
00:53:46.000And the healthcare workers that took it, it was like 100% of them didn't get COVID. And the ones that didn't, I believe it was almost half of them got it.
00:53:55.000Somewhere in the neighborhood of half of them got it and half of them didn't get it.
00:53:59.000I mean, my understanding is just that your symptoms were worse or less bad and you would recover faster.
00:54:20.000But I mean, the point is that ivermectin is an option that's essentially been banned in North America, whereas in Mexico, you can buy it over the counter at a pharmacy for real cheap.
00:54:30.000And supposedly, I mean, there is research that shows that it helps.
00:54:34.000And yet, in North America, they're just pushing vaccine, vaccine, vaccine.
00:54:40.000Yeah, there's options for treatment, and the big one that I've been pushing from the beginning is, God, if there's ever been a wake-up call where you have clear reason to take care of your body,
00:55:36.000There's like basic practical things that you can do.
00:55:40.000I mean, there's basic practical things that you can do, obviously, to improve your health and to avoid, you know, getting real sick if you get COVID or whatever.
00:55:49.000But there's also like basic, this frustrates me a lot, there's basic practical things that you can do to help your own mental health.
00:55:56.000You know, so this thing where it's like we throw prescriptions at people for everything.
00:56:01.000We do that for, you know, physical health reasons, but we also do this for mental health reasons.
00:56:06.000And it's like, you know, it seems really weird to me that so many people are really, really depressed and they all need to be on drugs for depression.
00:56:15.000And I would like to offer exercise, doing something useful with your life that makes you feel good about yourself and productive and like you've succeeded.
00:56:26.000Like try to learn and become better at like a new skill.
00:56:31.000People don't want to hear that though.
00:56:59.000In fact, there was a study that showed that physical exercise was as effective, if not more effective, for treating depression statistically than SSRIs.
00:58:07.000Okay, so what I was going to say is that I haven't always, I'm going to be honest, I haven't always been a big exerciser.
00:58:14.000I spent a very long time not exercising at all.
00:58:19.000And, you know, a lot of that just had to do with the fact that, you know, like when I was younger, I was like when I was a teenager, when I was in my 20s, I was like naturally thin.
00:58:27.000So I just didn't really have any reason to.
00:58:30.000And then, you know, once you get older and your metabolism slows down, you start putting on weight and you're like, Oh shit, I guess I have to start exercising.
00:58:37.000But what I learned, and again, you know, when I got to, I was working with a boxing trainer in Vancouver before I went to Sayalita and I swam laps and I was doing some strength training, which I really enjoyed a lot.
00:58:50.000And then when I got to Sailita, I found Chris in Quilombo and started working with him.
00:59:56.000It really, and it makes you feel better about yourself that you're doing something that's hard for you and that you're doing it even if you don't want to go.
01:00:03.000Like, even if you're feeling lazy and you're like, I don't want to go.
01:00:06.000And then you go and you're like, I did it.
01:00:07.000Like, I can do things that I don't want to do.
01:00:15.000I think what you're doing too, like boxing, is so good because there's something about hitting a thing, like a punching bag, that is so stress relieving.
01:01:24.000I don't have very many regrets in my life.
01:01:28.000I don't think that regrets are very useful, but I genuinely regret not having started boxing way, way, way earlier, just because, you know, when you start doing something like that in your 40s, you're just never going to be that good.
01:01:39.000Like, you're always going to be a bit slow, and I really wish...
01:01:42.000Do you feel like you're physically slow?
01:01:54.000Okay, well, I hurt my knee doing Taekwondo when I was like in my early 20s and never went to physio and I was having issues with it.
01:02:04.000This is the least interesting thing I've ever said in my life.
01:02:07.000I was having like, I had like this issue, actually a really gross issue with my knee when I was in high school.
01:02:13.000So I'd be like running or playing basketball or something and my kneecap would move out of the way, which would cause me to fall down and was very painful.
01:02:23.000Your kneecap would move out of the way?
01:03:16.000Doing deadlifts and stuff like that and doing squats helped a lot.
01:03:20.000They are totally way better than they used to be but they're just stiff and so I just feel like I can't move really quickly.
01:03:28.000Weightlifting and squats and those sorts of exercises are great but what he's emphasizing is A very specific range of motion with lifting weights that strengthens the knee when you put the knee in positions where it's generally thought of as being more unstable,
01:03:45.000like when your knees are over your toes.
01:03:50.000And the idea is to like get it so that your knee can be very strong through the entire range of motion.
01:03:57.000So if you look at someone like who's jumping, like he uses basketball as an example and it's a great example because you know when you're in the middle of like if someone's dribbling the ball and they're cutting left or right there's often times where your knee is in these like unstable positions or when you're jumping And landing,
01:04:16.000you know, your knee is over your toes and his idea is to strengthen the knee in all of these ranges of motion where you traditionally would be weak and make your knees and all the surrounding muscles strong so that you can move in any direction and never have a problem with that sort of instability.
01:05:57.000I really hope that my trainer didn't tell me about this and I forgot and now he's going to kill me because he's going to be watching and be like, I told you!
01:06:20.000If you can do that, you can get to a point where, you know, and you obviously you build up to it slowly and he has like a whole system where you start out very slowly and, you know, you progress towards what he calls dense strength.
01:06:36.000And these positions like he's doing now, I do that all the time.
01:07:10.000But I mean, I think that what I've learned from this conversation is that it was right to never go to physiotherapy and just to come on your podcast.
01:07:18.000Maybe a physiotherapy people would have prescribed something similar along the same lines.
01:07:23.000It probably would have helped, but it's too late now.
01:08:47.000Like if I was like talking to a friend and they identified as she and they were a man, then I don't feel like I would be super inclined to be like he, he, he, he.
01:09:03.000But I feel like in public it has wider repercussions and I feel like it participates in this greater lie that if you identify as the opposite sex, that's what you are.
01:09:17.000And I feel also that it's unnecessary.
01:09:19.000So I feel like it plays into this idea that it's offensive to say what I say, for example.
01:09:25.000So the fact that I called Yaniv him or You know, I refuse to use correct pronouns.
01:09:32.000Unless it's like on a personal level, then I don't care.
01:10:02.000So I sort of feel like the more people that participate in that, the more it does make it seem like a crazy, offensive, hateful, really mean thing to say if you don't use correct pronouns.
01:10:14.000And I feel like that's a standard that's been set by companies like Twitter.
01:10:19.000People often say to me, they act like I'm being stupid when I talk about this.
01:10:54.000So, and, you know, because it sort of seeped into journalism, for example, so people will report stories about pedophiles and rapists and abusers and use their preferred pronouns because that's like the polite thing to do.
01:11:12.000I feel like, I'm not trying to be like, I came here to call you out, but I do...
01:11:18.000I think people don't understand why it matters sometimes.
01:11:21.000So they don't understand why I'm doing it because they're like, why don't you just be nice?
01:11:25.000Like, why don't you just use the correct pronoun?
01:11:37.000And one of the problems with new things like this is that people, they want to reinforce it to the point where it's like doctrine, you know, like where there's no getting around it, like this is the rule and you have to abide by that rule or you're a piece of shit.
01:11:55.000When it comes to men with beards and penises and testicles that want you to call them a woman, aren't you just crazy?
01:12:07.000You're saying you want me to call you a woman, but you have a full beard.
01:12:11.000Like, I was looking at this one person, I don't need to name this person, but there's this one person that said, you know, that some women have penises, and if you don't like that, you can suck my dick.
01:12:32.000I'm like, you're throwing it in everybody's face that they have to accept that there's no way you're a woman.
01:12:41.000You're clearly exhibiting all these masculine characteristics, but yet you want to be defined as a woman because you want to be special.
01:12:49.000Because you want special treatment and maybe you do have gender dysphoria and maybe you do enjoy wearing a beard as well with your gender dysphoria, but there's also something about you that enjoys this authoritarian aspect of this forcing people to comply with calling you a woman.
01:13:06.000It's fucking strange because there are definitely people with legitimate gender dysphoria that want to be a woman and they're biologically male.
01:13:20.000There's people that have locked onto this movement and they recognize that there's this thing that's happening now.
01:13:28.000Where if someone says this, you can't say anything about them.
01:13:32.000Like, you can't criticize their behavior, you can't criticize the way they communicate or discuss, because this person is now in a protected class, because it's a trans woman.
01:13:44.000And so they can act bat shit fucking crazy.
01:13:46.000Whereas if they were just a man, you'd be like, that guy's a fucking asshole.
01:13:51.000But since it's a trans woman, you're like, everyone backs off because they don't want this anti-trans label attached to them.
01:13:59.000They don't want to be accused of dead naming her.
01:14:04.000Yeah, and I think you're right that there is, like, something that they enjoy about having that kind of power, and nobody can challenge them, and it's like, bow down.
01:14:13.000I mean, the other part of it that people don't talk about is that, like, a lot of these guys have fetishes.
01:15:34.000The only dispute about trans people came because of a trans woman who was competing as a female in MMA fights without telling these women that she's fighting that she was a man for 30 fucking years and just recently became a trans woman and was beating the shit out of them.
01:17:00.000Okay, so the chick that won at the weightlifting competition, at the press conference, they asked her, like, so, like, what do you think about this historic moment when a trans, whatever they said, was competing?
01:17:27.000They were like, and how insulting to be like, you know, she won and you're going to say like, oh, isn't it amazing that a man tried to compete against you?
01:17:56.000Like some sort of literal change of their actual physical biology.
01:18:01.000Like, you would change their chromosomes and they would have a functioning uterus.
01:18:06.000If we can get to a point where there's a complete understanding of all the processes that are involved in taking a fetus and having it become a grown adult, and if we can...
01:18:17.000Bypass some of those processes in a male to convert a male to a female, or a female to convert a female to a male.
01:18:26.000That's not outside the realm of possibility.
01:18:29.000Literal artificial biological life is not outside the realm of possibility.
01:19:27.000Imagine if you really felt like you should have been a man this whole time, and then someone can actually give you some gene therapy, and you actually do become a man.
01:20:30.000I was talking to a friend of mine on the podcast about if there was a time where you could give someone a pill.
01:20:39.000And it would alleviate gender dysphoria.
01:20:42.000Like imagine if gender dysphoria was something where they isolated it and they thought, oh, there's a protein that's off or we figured out how to do this.
01:20:50.000And through this medication, you will no longer have gender dysphoria and it's permanent.
01:24:30.000Well, and also, I mean, yeah, and they all, I felt, I mean, I had sort of a different perspective than you did.
01:24:36.000Maybe this is like because you're a man and I'm a woman, but I was like, this guy is kind of like he wants more attention and he's mad that he's not getting attention and all these chicks are getting all the attention and he's like, I know how to get attention.
01:25:45.000And found that essentially, like, all trans women were either...
01:25:51.000You know, effeminate men or gay men, or they were autogonophiles, and the men who transitioned when they were younger were the effeminate gay men, and the men who transitioned when they were older, like 40s, 50s, 60s, were the autogonophiles,
01:27:52.000This is the thing, is that men transitioning to women use male tactics and male behavior as they invade feminist spaces.
01:28:00.000And that's one of the things that I have seen that women get really kind of freaked out by, is that trans women then join these women groups and dominate them like men do.
01:28:14.000They have years and years of having gonads and having testosterone flow through their body and all of the hypersexual things that come from that.
01:28:25.000And one thing that comes from being a biological male is they generally tend to be more aggressive.
01:28:33.000They tend to Try to dominate whenever possible if left unchecked and if their egos are not well managed.
01:28:43.000But the big complaint that I hear from women, especially women that get labeled as TERFs, is that these trans women invade these traditionally just biological women groups and they sort of handle them like a man.
01:29:51.000Like, it's like, okay, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe they just want to be accepted and they want validation and they genuinely believe they're a woman, so they want to be treated like a woman, so they want to be in the change room with all the other women.
01:30:04.000But I think, I mean, who is actually that delusional?
01:30:10.000But I do, I think that there's something predatorial just in that, in the wanting to be in those spaces where they know that women don't want them there.
01:30:17.000Like, where they know that they're making women uncomfortable and they're doing it anyway.
01:30:20.000When my children were young, I have all daughters, and when they were young, one of the weird things was if they have to go potty and it's just me, I can't just send them into the women's room.
01:30:34.000And I can't go into the women's room with them.
01:30:37.000So I have to take them into the men's room.
01:30:40.000So I'm talking like carry them, you know, like this age, right?
01:30:44.000So I'm like either holding a hand and walking with them or I'm carrying them into the male bathroom.
01:31:22.000Because in some cultures they have open bathrooms and men and women share bathrooms and that's just always how it's been.
01:31:28.000But it's not how it's been in America.
01:31:29.000So when I'm carrying a little girl or walking with a little girl into the men's room, it's weird.
01:31:36.000You know, Louis C.K. had a bit about taking his daughter to the bathroom and that, like, two guys are shitting right next to, like, he's got her on the potty, and two guys are, like, having these horrible shits in the left side and the right stall.
01:32:01.000If I sent her in there by herself, it would feel insanely odd.
01:32:07.000But you should feel a bit odd about that, and I don't even think you need to be able to explain why.
01:32:14.000The sports thing has been, I think, probably the best in terms of opening up this conversation about men can't become women, or maybe there's a problem with a man identifying as a woman.
01:32:27.000Because people don't need an explanation.
01:32:30.000Like, people inherently will just look at this guy and be like, eh, no, this is not fair.
01:33:27.000There's an advantage in tendon strength.
01:33:29.000There's an advantage in the shape of the hips.
01:33:31.000There's an advantage of years and years and years of having...
01:33:37.000Huge levels of testosterone pumping through your system in terms of a biological female.
01:33:41.000It's like if you took a woman and you put her on steroids for 30 years, and then she got off steroids for a year and she was competing against women in sports, women would be like, this is fucking bullshit.
01:33:51.000This lady's been cheating her whole life, and now all of a sudden she's off the steroids, so I'm supposed to just accept her as a normal physiological female.
01:34:29.000A trans man who wants to compete in mixed martial arts.
01:34:33.000Well, you know the problem with trans men competing in mixed martial arts or something like that is you wouldn't be able to because it's not legal to take testosterone.
01:34:44.000You know, Texas has a really wacky way of looking at it, where there was a trans man, well, trans boy, I guess you would say, in high school wrestling.
01:34:57.000So this was a biological female that was taking testosterone, but they wouldn't let her compete as a boy.
01:35:04.000So they made her compete against girls while she was taking testosterone.
01:35:09.000So she's, you know, ragdolling these girls because she's on the juice.
01:35:32.000No one on the boy's side would care, is my opinion, is my position.
01:35:35.000And that's why this is such a fucking loaded issue, is because we know males have a physical advantage in running, in lifting weights, in most sports that involve power.
01:35:49.000And you can explain why, you can talk to a scientist, you can talk to a doctor, and they'll explain why.
01:35:55.000But everybody knows, everybody knows that men are stronger and bigger than women for the most part.
01:36:02.000And likewise, I just think that, I think it's crazy, it makes me feel crazy to even have to explain to people that a man shouldn't have access to a change room.
01:36:14.000Or that a man shouldn't be in a transition house with women who are escaping violence.
01:36:41.000Why do you want to be in these spaces?
01:36:43.000Well, the woke ideology is so fucking weird that they literally have allowed men who are sexual abusers to transition to women and be incarcerated with women.
01:37:06.000Guy who has sexually assaulted women, who has a history of this, is in jail for it, we're going to put you in with women.
01:37:14.000Yeah, and I mean, there's cases already.
01:37:16.000There's a woman in Canada, Heather Mason, who's doing activism around this, and she was incarcerated for many years.
01:37:23.000And even before this was an issue, this was starting to become an issue, where men who identified as women were being transferred into male prisons, and sexual assaults did happen.
01:37:34.000You know, there was like a fucking baby rapist in there with like a mom and the baby, like in some kind of middle, I don't, obviously not in the prison prison, but like, you know, like they're putting dangerous men who are predators,
01:37:50.000who are rapists, who are serial predators in with these women, these women who are really vulnerable.
01:37:56.000I mean, think about the kind of women who are in prison, like these are Actually, you care about marginalization.
01:38:20.000And Heather told me, she was like, you know, like, I think something really, really horrible is going to have to happen before anybody pays attention.
01:39:33.000My entire life, like, as soon as I was legal to vote when I was 18, provincially and federally, in every single election, I voted for the NDP. Last election, I didn't vote at all because I was like, I can't in good faith vote for the Liberals or the NDP, and I didn't feel comfortable voting for the Conservative Party because I care about,
01:40:09.000Like they're getting rid of our rights, our free speech.
01:40:12.000The erosion of civil rights is the most disturbing aspects of it because they're willing to accept the erosion of rights and civil liberties because it aligns with whatever ideology they're pushing.
01:40:30.000You're seeing that in a different realm with this whole COVID vaccine passport thing.
01:40:36.000There's people that are accepting this idea that the government's going to be able to dictate whether or not you go to places, whether or not you could eat dinner, whether or not you could do things.
01:40:43.000Depending upon your vaccination status, when they know that there's people that have gone through COVID and have natural immunity and it's just as robust, if not better.
01:43:16.000The way that people have started treating each other around this is, like, really disturbing.
01:43:22.000Like, you know, blaming their loss of rights on people who didn't get vaccinated and, like, saying really, like, hateful things about people.
01:44:06.000You fucking fatso, you get sick too easy, and you're coughing on everybody, and you're spreading it everywhere, and people around you that aren't fat, they're not getting sick.
01:44:14.000So you fucked this up because you're a spreader.
01:47:31.000There are many theories as to why sugary alcoholic beverages seem to result in a worse hangover than lower sugar counterparts, but no real proof positive.
01:47:42.000Daiquiris, sweet martinis, and Mai Tais all contain sugar and alcohol.
01:47:56.000The thing that I've noticed is if I drink electrolyte drinks, electrolyte supplements, during and after the booze, it has a giant impact on what kind of headaches I have.
01:48:09.000And ironically, those things have sugar in them.
01:48:13.000Yeah, that is interesting because, yeah, I'll drink electrolytes after, like, if I've been out the night before and it does help a lot, but I didn't think about the sugar thing.
01:48:22.000Yeah, like electrolytes like liquid IV, which is my favorite one, has a very specific ratio of glucose to sodium and all the different electrolytes, potassium and whatnot.
01:48:34.000And it's like the scientifically designed way they've incorporated these things so it enters into your bloodstream quicker and more effectively and rehydrates you better.
01:51:53.000But also right now is the rainy season, so there's like crazy thunderstorms almost every night, and that also doesn't help with things like power and Wi-Fi.
01:52:02.000So it's a bit sketchier, but I have been able to manage to do it, which is great, because I really don't want to go back to Canada ever again.
01:53:15.000It's hard to communicate with them rationally and logically.
01:53:18.000Yeah, it's fear and lack of control because I find that, like, so some of my friends are genuinely fearful about COVID and they're like, if I get COVID, I'm going to die.
01:53:26.000And I'm like, you're not going to die.
01:53:32.000You're not going to die of COVID. But there's a lot of people, I think, who just feel like they have no control over the situation, so they don't know what to do.
01:53:41.000So I think they try to control other people or police other people.
01:54:07.000Yeah, Canadians, very passive, very interested in going along, very interested in being told what to do, and it's really dangerous.
01:54:14.000I feel like everybody needs to reread 1984. Actually, when I got to Mexico, the first book that I read, the last time I'd read it was in college or maybe even high school or something, and I reread it, and it was terrifying.
01:54:34.000And even like that idea of, you know, going along with something that you know to be untrue, you know, you know that person's not really a woman, but you're just going to say it, you know, that's like that step in that direction.
01:54:52.000And, you know, yeah, it's just it's really depressing and scary how many people haven't paid attention to history and can't see the path that they're going down.
01:55:01.000Well, what's weird to me was that it was one of the first things that Biden did in getting into office was to make it so that high school kids can compete in the gender that they identify with.
01:55:11.000All the shit that's wrong in this country right now, all the issues that we're facing, that's one of the first things you do.
01:55:20.000This weird just fucking wave to the woke.
01:55:30.000I mean, fair, but I just mean people voted for him.
01:55:34.000You know, feminists that I know voted for him.
01:55:38.000Like feminists who have been working against this gender identity shit for a long time and who have been fighting it still voted for Biden because they're like, oh, well, not Trump.
01:56:27.000But, like, I said, you know, like, I was like, if I lived in the U.S., I would vote for Trump because I think Biden's scarier, partly because of the gender identity stuff, which, again, he promised to do.
01:56:40.000He said, you know, one of the first things that I'll do if I win the election is Is to, you know, make it so that boys and men can compete against girls and women in sports.
01:56:52.000And, you know, the fact that he's obviously in bed with big tech.
01:56:56.000And it's like, I may not like Trump and I may think he's an idiot or an asshole or like a buffoon, but I don't at all think that he's as dangerous as Biden.
01:57:06.000And people really freaked out at me over that.
01:57:09.000And I was just like, why would you vote for somebody who's going to take away all of your rights?
01:57:15.000And has promised to take away all your rights.
01:57:25.000And you're a woman who's very concerned about this.
01:57:27.000And you just can't break out of this Trump thing.
01:57:31.000And it's not like I'm saying, oh, you should vote for Trump.
01:57:33.000But why are you voting for this person who's working against you openly?
01:57:38.000Well, the media did a great job of highlighting any negative issue about Trump and constantly beating it into people's brains, that he's a misogynist, that he's a racist, that he's a this, that he's a that, and exaggerating any flaws that he may have had ad nauseum,
01:57:58.000any slurs in his speech, any things that he fucked up or gigantic huge red flags.
01:58:04.000But then you see the opposite with Biden.
01:58:08.000Watching Don Lemon interview him and watching him babble in these weird, nonsensical, circular sentences that don't mean anything, just talking, just making noises with his face.
02:02:17.000I think the policy thing, and I think in terms of enforcing foreign policy in particular, I think we have an illusion of how much control they actually have.
02:02:28.000I think the deep state, the idea of the deep state is real.
02:02:32.000There's people that are in politics, they're in office and government that never leave.
02:02:38.000Well, how would somebody like Biden end up in power?
02:02:41.000Like, what a useless person to put in power.
02:03:27.000You don't have to name names, but, like, I know Christina Hoff Summers gets attacked by them.
02:03:31.000I mean, they identify themselves as radical feminists.
02:03:36.000I mean, I guess their ideology generally would be like, they would be anti-pornography, they would be anti-prostitution, they would be anti the gender identity stuff.
02:05:17.000I mean, they're women who identify themselves as radical feminists, and they've turned against me in part because I've been trying to have more nuanced conversations, even about pornography.
02:05:27.000Like, yes, I'm anti-pornography, but I also recently...
02:05:30.000Sort of tried to say like, okay, I, you know, men use pornography.
02:05:42.000I can't say in good faith that all men who use pornography are like misogynists or hate women, and that's what these women would say.
02:05:51.000Any man who consumes pornography hates women, hates women, or is a misogynist.
02:05:56.000I'm like, okay, I mean, that's like a lot of men.
02:05:59.000And it's a lot of men that I know, you know, that's like my boyfriends or like my male friends.
02:06:06.000And I understand the train of thought because they're thinking of the porn industry as this hugely unethical, again, exploitative, abusive industry.
02:06:16.000And they're saying, If a man's making a choice to consume this and he knows that she doesn't want to be there, he knows that she's being hurt or he knows that she's being abused, then obviously he doesn't care about women.
02:08:24.000And I'm like, I'm just trying to talk to people like I'm genuinely like I want to understand people, even if they're people I don't agree with, like, God forbid.
02:08:33.000And I you know, like, if you genuinely want to change people's minds, then you have to treat them as humans and be fair.
02:08:40.000And I think you do have to try to understand them.
02:08:42.000Not if they're horrible murderers or they're sociopaths or whatever, but just regular people.
02:08:48.000You think that everybody in the world has been exposed to a radical feminist analysis of pornography?
02:10:33.000I mean, males in general, because of just biological history, we have more of a history of aggression, more of a history of also the competition for mating.
02:10:51.000The competition amongst males is very aggressive.
02:10:55.000Like if one man finds, I was just, a friend of mine was just telling me this story about this woman who was, who's dating one guy and then she broke up with this guy and then dated a guy that worked with him and it became this fucking colossal catastrophe and these guys had a fist fight at work and I was like,
02:11:12.000holy shit, but that's like standard male breeding behavior amongst wolves, amongst gorillas, amongst like all sorts of different male animals.
02:11:23.000Like this is mine or like it's a threat to my masculinity?
02:11:27.000I think there's a, well, it's a threat to their hierarchy, their position in the social food chain, the idea that, you know, that now they don't get to breed with this female, but now this other male gets to breed with this female,
02:11:43.000whether it's a gorilla or a male or a wolf or whatever.
02:12:23.000Yeah, I mean, men are obviously super competitive in that way.
02:12:26.000I mean, I've had that experience, yeah, like, with men that I've broken up with, and there's no thing, and, like, we're friends, and it's been a long time, and they get super, like, competitive and weird when I start dating someone else.
02:12:37.000And it's like, man, you're dating somebody else.
02:12:41.000Like, we're not this, like, you know, it's not that you want me.
02:12:44.000It's that it's like, oh, somebody, it's like...
02:12:46.000It's like men are supposed to, and they should, figure out a way to manage that.
02:12:51.000But I think we need to recognize that there's some sort of weird inherent programming in human beings that's biological, that is completely about passing on your DNA, and that is...
02:13:07.000Ingrained in your cells in some strange way that manifests itself in relationships in really gross and horrible ways.
02:13:16.000And there's no management skills that are taught to men.
02:13:20.000There's no mitigation skills in terms of strategies of releasing this kind of aggressive energy, working out, going to the gym, maybe jerking off before you call your girlfriend and say you're sorry.
02:13:54.000You're right, and men aren't offered, and boys especially, they're not offered alternatives, they're not offered healthy outlets, again, like sports or martial arts or whatever.
02:14:05.000I think more importantly, they're not offered an understanding of a female's perspective either.
02:14:09.000That's a real big, they think about what they want, especially when people are young, right?
02:14:14.000When you're young and your frontal lobe hasn't developed, you're thinking about what you want.
02:14:18.000You're not thinking about what the other person wants.
02:14:20.000And I think from an early age, it would be great if we had a better understanding, like a real honest understanding of how the other side thinks.
02:14:30.000And I feel like that was the conversation that I was trying to open up.
02:14:35.000And, you know, my audience includes, you know, primarily like a lot of, I mean, there's men in my audience too, but obviously tons and tons of feminists and tons and tons of radical feminists.
02:14:44.000And I'm saying like, we have to try, we don't understand each other and we have to try to understand each other and be realistic about what's going on.
02:14:53.000And we live in a world where boys are growing up We're good to go.
02:15:32.000I think also we have to take into consideration the way girls' brains are being rewired because they're looking at that in terms of what the expectations on them are.
02:15:41.000I read this study and it was kind of a fucked up study because it was like a study about how kids are having much more anal sex now than ever before.
02:16:19.000Most parents don't have restrictions on their kids' phones, so if you give a boy a phone, you're basically saying, hey little fella, go watch people fuck.
02:16:29.000Go watch violence and go watch people fuck.
02:16:31.000Go watch gunshot videos and Don't find the most deranged shit that you can find.
02:16:40.000I think the expectations on girls is another thing that should be studied about that, too.
02:16:45.000Because if you're watching grown adults that enjoy participating in kinky shit...
02:16:55.000That's a grown adult that's been through the ringer.
02:16:58.000They've been through a lot of things in their life, and then they have two shots of this wacky shit that you like, and they're like, go ahead, put it in my ass.
02:18:19.000Rachel Dolezal's new side hustle, OnlyFans.
02:18:22.000I mean, I'm not saying that I support it, but it's like, I mean, she obviously lost access to almost any income, so I'm saying I'm surprised it took her this long.
02:19:17.000But just to get away from that, do you think that what she does or did, when she says she identifies with African Americans, that's like the culture that she's...
02:19:27.000No, I don't think it's the same thing.
02:19:28.000And I don't, I mean, this is a very complex conversation, but...
02:23:36.000There's a difference when you're changing legislation and policy and it's having a really, really serious negative impact on half of the population versus one lady who's had a sad life and she's just trying to...
02:23:53.000If it was a major phenomenon and people were losing access to funding or jobs or whatever because white people were posing as black and getting the funding instead or getting these positions instead or whatever it is...
02:24:12.000And again, this thing where these men who are entering into women's spaces really are a threat to women, in a physical sense as well as in a political sense.
02:24:26.000I don't think that that's, again, such a black and white issue when it comes to race.
02:24:33.000Has being kicked off of Twitter made you more free in terms of your ability to discuss things?
02:24:42.000Because you don't get the same sort of instantaneous feedback on your ideas that you do with Twitter, which I think is...
02:24:50.000In some ways, positive, like the discussions you can have with people, but in a lot of ways, negative.
02:24:56.000Because a lot of what you're dealing with is just people complaining and criticizing and insulting and being really shitty in a way that people...
02:25:08.000They only do when they're hiding behind a screen name and only using text and not in front of a person so they don't get social cues and see the impact that their insulting statements have on this person's personality.
02:25:24.000You know, they're doing it like they're throwing bombs over a fence and they can't see what's on the other side.
02:25:30.000I mean, I had a lot of support on Twitter, to be honest, and I think that that was part of why they got rid of me.
02:25:37.000Like, I think people were feeling emboldened by what I was saying and I was getting a lot of support and they were like, I don't know who they is.
02:25:43.000I don't know if it's like, you know, trans activists who had connections at Twitter or who worked there or, you know, whether it was the head of safety, who's again, I can't say her name.
02:25:54.000If they were like, oh, she's getting too much traction and this is starting to legitimize.
02:25:58.000I was talking about this stuff in a rational way.
02:26:05.000I think that these questions that I was asking were legitimate in making people question this ideology and I think they didn't want that, whoever they is.
02:26:14.000I wasn't having a bad time on Twitter.
02:27:13.000The only thing that's been good about being kicked off of Twitter is that I can have these conversations and that, you know what, it actually connected me with a whole bunch of people that I never would have connected with otherwise.
02:27:24.000You know, like people who are right wing.
02:27:26.000People who I wrote off as a committed leftist and feminist.
02:27:33.000Ben Shapiro called me after I got kicked off of Twitter and he was like, can I support you?
02:27:38.000And I think he's a really nice guy and I never would have talked to him or considered that he's not just an enemy to my cause.
02:27:50.000And it really shook up my ideas about politics and about this left-right binary and made me very passionate about free speech.
02:28:02.000And I wasn't before and I feel bad about that.
02:28:16.000And now I've realized, and it's unfortunate that something like that would have to happen to me in order for me to realize how important it is and to stand up.
02:28:34.000They're really fucking dangerous and a lot of people don't realize.
02:28:37.000I agree, and I think free speech is almost everything.
02:28:41.000It's the only way we ever discuss things and figure out what's right and what's wrong, and you've got to let it sort itself out.
02:28:46.000And if you don't, if you just put the walls up and say you're kicked out of the kingdom, like, wow.
02:28:54.000Especially, you know, we're not talking about a small-scale thing.
02:28:59.000We're talking about a massive multi-billion member thing.
02:29:04.000We're talking about what essentially should be a utility.
02:29:06.000It should be a public right to use these things to communicate.
02:29:09.000And it's one thing if you're doxing people or harassing people, but if you're just discussing ideas, you should be able to discuss ideas openly and without fear of repercussion from the administrators who are essentially just appealing to one particular ideology and not supporting the other ideology at all.
02:29:30.000It's fucking dangerous and it's unprecedented because there's never been a thing like this before.
02:29:34.000And the people that, well, their side is supported by these conversations and these people getting censored.
02:29:40.000They're like, well, it's a private company.
02:30:15.000I mean, I, like, I know, I just think that, and the private company argument is coming from leftists or progressives, and it's like, oh, suddenly you're a fan of corporate monopolies?
02:30:48.000It's very difficult to participate in public conversations and to do your job if you're a media producer or a journalist without access to social media platforms.
02:31:47.000I remember somebody asking me, John Kay, who's a Canadian journalist, and he's like, Well, you must have seen it coming.
02:31:53.000And I was like, no, I was totally shocked and I was really upset and I was scared.
02:31:59.000Well, they've ramped up their censorship to the point where Sean Baker, who is an advocate of the carnivore diet, he's a guy who, he's like this very fit guy who's in his, I think he's 55,
02:34:38.000And we lost because of Section 230, which is supposed to protect platforms from being, you know, essentially held accountable for what people post on their platforms.
02:34:50.000So, like, I have a website, so if somebody posted a comment...
02:35:52.000When you're portrayed one way as being this hostile, disagreeable, unreasonable person who's harassing people, and then I actually see you talk, It's frustrating.
02:36:11.000It's rude, and it's diametrically opposed to free speech.
02:36:19.000Free speech is supposed to be about a person expressing themselves and I want to know what they really think and then I want to know is there a counter to that and who's right and let these people talk.
02:36:34.000But when you misrepresent someone and you taint them and you change who they are, you've already poisoned the argument, right?
02:36:45.000Like, I didn't know about you until I found out you got kicked off of Twitter and then someone let me know that you got kicked off of Twitter for saying a woman isn't a man.
02:36:54.000And I was like, that is the most fucking ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
02:36:57.000And then I heard that, you know, I tried to do some research on you, found out you're a feminist, and I'm like...
02:37:07.000What are you allowed to say and why are you not allowed to say that?
02:37:11.000What are you trying to protect by stopping this from being said?
02:37:15.000And why can't we have that said and then have someone counter that in a way that's intelligent and robust and let's have a debate and a discussion and see if there's common ground that we can reach.
02:37:28.000If there's some sort of a Yeah, and this has been one of my biggest frustrations is that no one will debate me.
02:37:41.000So these people who say that I'm hateful or bigoted and completely, the misrepresentation thing completely drives me crazy.
02:37:50.000I don't think I'm ever going to get over it.
02:37:52.000Not when I'm misrepresented, not when other people are.
02:37:55.000You were talking about these Spotify employees who are trying to get rid of you, which is, of course, ridiculous.
02:38:03.000But it's like, do you listen to this show?
02:38:06.000I don't actually believe they listen to your show.
02:38:09.000Just like I don't believe that the people who misrepresent me are actually listening to what I'm saying, because I don't know how they could listen to what I'm saying and then say those things about me.
02:39:43.000I mean, anybody who advocates gender identity ideology, right?
02:39:48.000Like, anybody who thinks that the concept of changing sex is legitimate, anyone really who thinks the concept of, like, you know, a transgender in general, I would be interested in debating because I don't think that is a rational concept.
02:40:34.000You're like, we thought you were our...
02:40:37.000Keep saying the same thing over and over and over again because otherwise we're going to have to rethink what we're saying over and over and over again.
02:41:04.000With so many different backgrounds, so many different perspectives, and it's informed me and changed my perspective on things, and it's made me a much more nuanced thinker, because I get to see things from other people's eyes.
02:41:51.000And when ideas come across you, they should be carefully examined.
02:41:55.000And any of them that are forcing you to adopt them without any scrutiny, those are dangerous.
02:42:02.000These dogmatic positions that you see where people rigidly adhere to ideologies, it's one of the reasons why free speech is so fucking important.
02:42:10.000Because those things are how you lead to dictatorship.
02:42:13.000Those things are how you lead to communism.
02:42:15.000Those things are how you lead to A literal inability to debate, discuss, and examine things.
02:42:22.000Because some things cannot be discussed.
02:42:43.000If you're not going to challenge your own ideas and if you're not going to allow others to challenge your ideas, then your idea is not valid.
02:42:51.000It has to be put to the test, essentially.
02:42:54.000And it's incredible to me how few people understand that and think that What strength is, is to just stick doggedly to the thing that you've always said.
02:43:07.000You've been saying the same thing for 20 years.
02:43:10.000Hopefully, you've changed your mind about things since you were 20 years old and now you're 40. I mean, that's what growth and wisdom is.
02:43:19.000I mean, how sad and pathetic if you still believe all the same things you did in your 20s.
02:43:24.000But they see it as a form of weakness, I guess.
02:43:30.000Again, I know that I'm being repetitive, but I came from that place where I did post hyperbolic statements on Twitter and I was kind of black and white in my thinking in terms of certain issues.
02:43:47.000And I did think that people who saw things differently were bad or dumb or whatever.
02:43:54.000And, you know, having nuanced conversations is so much harder and for whatever reason so much more controversial and you get attacked so much more.
02:44:02.000I get, I mean you do of course too, but like I get attacked for having conversations with people even if I don't agree with them.
02:44:14.000And people assume that I agree with them because I'm having the conversation with them and I'm not being mean to them or I'm not like, you're a terrible person.
02:44:20.000I'm like, but they're not a terrible person.
02:44:46.000I have so much more respect for somebody who is honest and authentic and rational versus somebody who's going to doggedly stick to ideology no matter what.
02:46:33.000And the people that are pulling the banhammers, there's so many of them.
02:46:37.000There are so many people working over there that are doing that.
02:46:40.000The idea that there's one person who reviews thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of human beings that are stepping outside the lines.