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00:01:59.000Like the one I use is, it's not a meme, it's a gif, when people on Twitter ask me like a bunch of questions in a row in like one tweet, I just reply with the Riddler because it's all these question marks, but that's not that clever particularly.
00:03:49.000I saw someone today on Twitter that was ranting this vitriolic, just nasty rant about unvaccinated people causing the death of Colin Powell.
00:04:05.000So is that a good thing or a bad thing?
00:04:19.000It's this very severe form of blood cancer that severely impacts the immune system, apparently, and might have even rendered his vaccination ineffective because he was vaccinated.
00:04:37.000Do you know that six months after the vaccine, some hospitals are not counting you as vaccinated, six months after fully vaccinated?
00:04:46.000This comes from some woman that was working at a hospital that was talking about cases of vaccinated versus unvaccinated people that were admitted to the ICU. And she was saying the people that are in the hospital, in her particular hospital, she was saying when someone's been vaccinated six months ago,
00:05:08.000Like, they are fucking vaccinated, and they're listing them in the hospital as unvaccinated and jacking up the unvaccinated numbers.
00:05:15.000But I think it goes the other way, that if the efficacy is only six months, they're jacking up the numbers of people who are vaccinated to try to make it seem like only a tiny minority aren't, when that 70% or whatever it is, some of them are no longer effectively vaccinated.
00:06:51.000And then, you, single-handedly, you and Alex, make him into an internet laughing stock, and he doesn't know what to do about it, and he starts yelling about Rogan mutton heads.
00:08:33.000This thing that you did, the choice is clear.
00:08:36.000But the problem is, he's not capable of being silly, right?
00:08:41.000Everything's angry, and you're being silly.
00:08:43.000When anger is confronted by silliness that doesn't get angry at the anger, it makes the anger seem so preposterous.
00:08:51.000Well, it's kind of like when you have that hysterical girlfriend and you're sitting there smiling and nodding and she just gets more and more hysterical and at a certain point it just becomes funny.
00:08:58.000It's just like, look, you are doing this to yourself and that is trolling at its purest.
00:09:02.000Yes, well that's what you do and that's why he's fucked up.
00:09:32.000He goes, I wasn't trying to persuade them to get vaccinated.
00:09:34.000He goes, I was trying to persuade vaccinated people to yell at the unvaccinated and call them dumb.
00:09:40.000It's like if Keith Olbermann calls me dumb or a muttonhead, this is really not going to be skin off my back or going to change my behavior.
00:10:38.000Whatever that was, it's like a man at some point in his life has a certain balance of passion, but hope for the future, and you have your sex hormones, you have your life ahead of you,
00:10:55.000you have hope, and you want to change things.
00:10:57.000And at some point in time, things become imbalanced.
00:11:08.000And you don't know why they're laughing at you.
00:11:10.000Because you're just doing whatever your whole peer group is doing.
00:11:13.000But somehow you're the one being singled out and being clowned constantly.
00:11:16.000He's got a million followers on Twitter, which is no joke.
00:11:19.000But these are all former ESPN or MSNBC people.
00:11:23.000I just passed him in terms of YouTube subscribers, which I shouldn't be able to do.
00:11:27.000But that just shows that these are inactive accounts.
00:11:30.000The thing is, when people are that performative about their politics, they expect people to stand up and applaud for them, right?
00:11:36.000Right, that's what the reason to do it is.
00:11:38.000And he's not getting that, and it must be confusing for him in his dotage.
00:11:43.000Well, it's a time where, you know, when these narratives, right, when you could sit down and have these monologues, it used to be a rare thing, you know, where someone had the freedom to, like, write a monologue like that, so it was impressive.
00:11:57.000But now everyone with a YouTube channel can sit in front of a camera, and you have these brilliant people that aren't On a platform like MSNBC or Fox or CBS or whatever, they're just in their house with a screen behind them.
00:12:53.000Discussions with people are fucking amazing.
00:12:55.000His David Fravor, the one with that fighter pilot that encountered that strange craft off the coast of San Diego, is one of the best interviews I've ever seen in my life.
00:13:04.000I mean, he's so good at communicating with people.
00:13:07.000Again, with humility, but the way he discusses things, even when they're controversial, when, you know, he feels like something needs to be said, the way he says things is never like, I am better than you.
00:14:39.000There's no mechanism to turn it around.
00:14:41.000Not only is there no mechanism, there's like a suicide pact to keep the same path and pretend that it's working.
00:14:48.000Or pretend it's the only way to do it.
00:14:50.000I remember sometime, maybe 15 years ago, I was at Washington Square Park looking north of Fifth Avenue.
00:14:56.000And this is when they were talking about Al-Qaeda having a dirty bomb, maybe bring a suitcase and detonating it and like blowing up New York.
00:15:02.000And I thought to myself, if they take out the city, take me with it.
00:16:09.000Yeah, he commuted the Wonder Weathermen.
00:16:11.000So he's letting terrorists out of jail, but imprisoning peaceful people in their own homes and not letting them go out to restaurants.
00:16:20.000The idea for me as a Russian that I got to show a piece of paper to get food from someone is so against my DNA that I was like, I'm not doing this.
00:16:28.000Well, the good thing is you can eat outside, which is going to be really fun in January.
00:16:34.000Like, if you walk around Park Slope, which was the neighborhood next to mine, like, stores, that family store has been there since the 70s, you know, for rent.
00:17:10.000There's not like, okay, this is the thing that's so sick about politics.
00:17:14.000We bailed out the banks in 2008, but there's not really any talk about these stores that were the staples of their neighborhood, that gave it character, that made it special.
00:18:05.000Like, we already have a precedent that's been set where when something that kills people...
00:18:11.000Which most diseases kill a certain amount of people because some people are very, very vulnerable.
00:18:16.000And when something can kill people, now they already have a precedent set where the government can come in and dictate whether or not you can be open and whether or not your business can function.
00:18:27.000And make it so that people no longer have the choice as to whether or not they would like to just take a chance and go to a restaurant because the flu is around.
00:18:35.000Now you no longer have the chance because big daddy government is going to look after you.
00:18:40.000And I have a friend whose brother works for the state, and he's a part of this whole COVID commission, and told him point blank, they were having a conversation in Los Angeles about closing outdoor dining.
00:18:53.000And he said, but there's been no transmission ever connected to outdoor dining.
00:18:59.000And the woman who wound up closing everything down said, it's about the optics.
00:19:35.000But what this has done is allowed educated urban people who live in a state of anxiety, neurosis, and fear to have an external reason for their state of mind.
00:21:58.000There's a supercut of all these politicians who are just doing this hypocritical stuff.
00:22:02.000The mayor of San Francisco recently got busted doing it.
00:22:04.000Rashida Tlaib, she even said on camera, she's like, oh, the Republicans are here, so I have to put the mask on, kind of thing.
00:22:09.000LOL. But this is why I'm so excited about social media, because if it wasn't social media, you wouldn't be able to call these people on their crap.
00:22:48.000What would it be like if there was no social media in terms of the hyperbole, in terms of everything getting blown into this wild, anxiety-ridden frenzy?
00:23:00.000Don't you think that the social media also accelerates all of the anxiety?
00:23:11.000And we know what it would look like without social media because it was after the Iraq war.
00:23:16.000Because there really wasn't social media to that extent in 2001, 2002. And the drumbeat for war was incessant.
00:23:24.000And if you were saying we shouldn't go into Iraq at the time, it was much harder to get a message out.
00:23:29.000Colin Powell, who, as you just said, passed away earlier today, just went on the floor of the UN and said...
00:23:34.000Not only does Saddam have weapons of mass destruction, he's about to launch them.
00:23:38.000There wasn't really this kind of way to show contempt and have a parody.
00:23:43.000Like, if you go on Facebook, if you go on Twitter, if you go on YouTube, a New York Times account and a Random Jerks account look basically the same.
00:23:50.000So they do have that even playing field.
00:23:52.000You didn't have that before social media.
00:23:54.000Did you see that CNBC had a paid tweet by Pfizer?
00:24:35.000Ask your Facebook friend, do you think the pharmaceutical companies have an incentive To force everyone to be their customer, and of course they do.
00:26:51.000I had Dr. Pierre Corey, who is one of the doctors from the frontline critical COVID care group, that has been treating people, including, by the way, 200 Congress people have been treated with ivermectin for COVID. Did you know that?
00:27:13.000Before there were vaccines, this was a common treatment, an off-label treatment for COVID. Now, I do not know what the motivation for demonizing this particular medication is.
00:27:27.000Again, I'm not a doctor and I'm not a scientist.
00:27:29.000But I would imagine some of it has to do with money.
00:27:32.000The reason being is that it is a generic drug now.
00:27:51.000I don't know if that's why the FDA is making snarky tweets about it being veterinary medicine, but I do know that it was used for humans for fucking years before they ever started using it for animals.
00:28:03.000And I also do know that There's a massive amount of medications that have veterinary applications, including penicillin.
00:28:11.000Well, Joe, it's like me calling Child Protective Services because my neighbor was feeding her baby cat food, and by cat food, I mean milk.
00:28:51.000I don't think it's necessarily about the money so much it's about obedience because they're the ones who are promulgating how everyone has to act and then you have this guy from Austin over here, this comedian, telling people there was another way and the science isn't as settled and all of a sudden their sense of authority is diminished because when you have choices that means that person who wants to be the one to go to no longer is the one who has all the answers.
00:29:17.000Well, this is what is so funny about that.
00:29:19.000They don't understand that when they say things that are absolutely untrue, it diminishes their authority.
00:29:27.000They're not even aware of what they're doing.
00:32:14.000You should wear that with certain posts.
00:32:17.000But dude, I disagree with you because when you're saying that you can't just have people lying, we're all taught in high school about yellow journalism and the Spanish-American War and they lied to get us into that.
00:32:43.000All of the boots weren't on the ground, the Kurds were not exterminated, the story vanished from the headlines, and none of those people advocating for war, who were claiming, if we don't do this, it's going to be genocide, had any consequences for their lies.
00:33:25.000You write, there are tens of millions of Americans who aren't on the hard left or the hard right who feel the world has gone mad.
00:33:32.000This is Brian Stelter and Barry Weiss.
00:33:34.000Well, you know, when you have the chief reporter on the beat of COVID for the New York Times talking about how questioning or pursuing the question of the lab leak is racist, the world has gone mad.
00:34:11.000When, in the name of progress, young school children, as young as kindergarten, are being separated in public schools because of their race.
00:34:20.000And that is called progress rather than segregation.
00:34:40.000People that work at networks, frankly, like the one I'm speaking on right now, who try and claim that, you know, it was racist to investigate the lab leak theory.
00:35:37.000Holy shit, he's been watching my stuff!
00:35:41.000Yeah, these are extraordinary times, but because Barry Weiss used to work at the New York Times and decided enough of this bullshit, and has the courage and the principles to leave, and now she's got over 100,000 people on her substack,
00:35:56.000and please subscribe to her substack, because it's excellent!
00:36:24.000I have a playbook, and it's only like two pages long.
00:36:27.000And one of them is somebody has to be the bad guy.
00:36:29.000And the bad guy, you know, when it comes to this COVID stuff, there's anybody who questions the narrative, anybody who goes over the data and finds flaws in it, anybody who has some sort of an alternative perspective, you're the bad guy.
00:36:52.000And when someone like Barry Weiss, who you can't put in that box, goes on CNN and just says something more sensible, more poignant than anybody who's ever fucking said anything on that network.
00:37:03.000When that happens, you realize you've got a problem.
00:37:05.000Because the great minds are not there.
00:37:07.000The people that are saying things that are important and critical and crucial to our understanding of why we're so fucked right now.
00:37:45.000They made a meme of a guy, Trump wrestling, they put CNN's logo and they tried to find out who it is and they said, we still reserve the right to sue you.
00:39:02.000And someone somewhere just identified, oh, this is Barbara Streisand house.
00:39:06.000She tried to, she sued it and it had no views.
00:39:09.000She sues him or threatens the lawsuit, it blows up, and as a consequence of her trying to keep it hidden, it became 100 times more visible than it would have been otherwise.
00:39:17.000So if she just kept her mouth shut and let it blow over, none of this would have happened.
00:39:21.000Yeah, well, every fucking famous person, this is a crazy thing, like, once the internet happened, I think she's legacy media, right?
00:41:09.000Any assertion that the network coerced or blackmailed the user is false, says CNN. Well, maybe it is false.
00:41:17.000So I went to what CNN had, and it goes deeper into the person that they talked to, and then who's a person on Reddit wrote these apologies, which then seems that's a little like, I don't see anybody on Reddit really ever doing that.
00:41:29.000It may have happened, but that's not typical for me.
00:41:34.000He says, first of all, I'd like to apologize to the members of the Reddit community for getting this site and this sub embroiled in controversy that should never have happened, he wrote.
00:41:46.000I would also like to apologize for the post that...
00:41:52.000For the post made that were racist, bigoted, and anti-semitic.
00:43:17.000CNN is not publishing this gentleman's name because he's a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology for that fucking nonsensical meme.
00:44:52.000He's a guy who worked literally like a fucking 110 hours a week for years and years and years to become a neurosurgeon.
00:44:59.000He's a socially awkward introverted guy who's a medical pundit on CNN. When he's communicating with them and he's doing these like short-form conversations when he's dealing with like a powerful personality like Don Lemon,
00:45:14.000it's very difficult to get your point across.
00:45:17.000One of the things that he's been accused of that is not correct is that people said that he agreed that it was a veterinary medicine.
00:45:24.000What Don Lemon said, Don Lemon said that it was also used as a horse dewormer and it's not approved by the FDA for use for COVID. And he said that's correct.
00:45:38.000That's what he meant was it's not approved for COVID. He tried to talk and Don interrupted him and He actually called me and we had a conversation about this.
00:48:32.000And Sanjay, of course, is also the author of the new book, World War C, Lessons from the COVID-19 Pandemic and How to Prepare for the Next One.
00:48:41.000So Sanjay, look, I think this is really important because Joe Rogan is listened to and popular with a lot of people who aren't consuming mainstream media and mainstream science, right?
00:48:52.000So you went on there, I know, to talk to him.
00:52:00.000Because it's like, long form is where it's at.
00:52:02.000You know, and it's one thing that clip edited.
00:52:05.000Like these clips of me and Sanjay having disagreements about whether it's about horse dewormer or whether it's about children being vaccinated.
00:52:12.000These are like 10 minute clips and they're not edited.
00:52:29.000Now, I think we talk about this, obviously, on your program, on CNN, all the time, but there's a lot of people who still aren't getting the message.
00:52:39.000And I don't know, maybe it was a silly idea of mine, but I wanted to go talk.
00:52:44.000I think if you're serious about public health, you've got to go reach people who aren't typically hearing these messages.
00:52:50.000And I think it's Joe, I also felt that Joe was willing to have a dialogue.
00:52:54.000I mean, we had talked on the phone a couple of times.
00:52:58.000So I thought there was room for a real dialogue out of which maybe some new knowledge for his listeners could come.
00:53:05.000So I played part of the vaccination conversation, but as I said, it was three hours.
00:53:09.000So it wasn't the only time you tried to convince Rogan to get vaccinated.
00:53:13.000I wanted to play another instance during an exchange that you had when you guys were talking about immunity to COVID. Testing is obviously testing you to see if you have the virus.
00:53:25.000The therapeutic is to treat you because you have the virus.
00:53:43.000Because the vaccine protects you from a bad infection.
00:53:47.000And then you get COVID, so then you get the robust immunity that's imparted from having the actual disease itself, which is far more complex and comprehensive than you're getting from the vaccine that targets one specific protein, right?
00:54:00.000You could make that argument, I think.
00:54:33.000Because I have better immunity than I would if I was vaccinated.
00:54:38.000Okay, so Sanjay, I mean, as many times you try to explain that, I mean, the obvious things of nobody knows how long that natural immunity lasts or how it differs from person to person, and of course it would only be better if you had the vaccine on top of it, all of these basic facts.
00:54:51.000Do you feel like you broke through or that he will ever embrace the vaccine?
00:55:01.000I hate to say that, but he just was very steadfast in this.
00:55:04.000And when I cited him data saying, hey, look, there is the people who have natural immunity, people who have vaccinated immunity, and while the natural immunity may be strong for a period of time, reinfection rates are twice as high among people who have natural immunity versus vaccinated immunity.
00:55:45.000I was reading an article about this recently, where they were trying to find instances of people who caught COVID, survived, got the antibodies, and then died on the second case.
00:55:54.000Everyone that I know, I know four people that have, I know 13 people now that have had breakthrough cases.
00:55:59.000So another thing that he said during the show that I didn't challenge, he said that breakthrough cases are incredibly rare.
00:56:20.000The number of people that have gotten COVID and recovered and then had it again and then died is so small.
00:56:29.000Not only that, they think that there was an article that published recently, and I know I'm giving you a lot to Google, Jamie.
00:56:33.000That said that there was a study that they believe that the antibodies imparted from natural infection are not only more robust, they're 6 to 13 times better based on the Israeli study of 2.5 million people.
00:56:48.0006 to 13 times better than the immunity that's imparted from the vaccine.
00:56:53.000But this study from this, when they were dealing with SARS, they're showing people that have immunity of SARS-CoV-1, right?
00:58:23.000Well, they always talk about how you need boosters, so this is not even in dispute that the vaccines are limited.
00:58:28.000I was under the impression, and again, I'm not Sanjay, I'm not a doctor, that once you have it, you're set for a very long time in terms of your antibodies.
00:59:23.000So the thing is that Johnson& Johnson is the least potent, and Fauci has said recently that they should have probably made the Johnson& Johnson for two doses, not for one.
00:59:32.000But it's also the way they discuss the vaccine.
00:59:34.000There's several vaccines, and they're trying to act as if these are interchangeable, and that data is clearly showing the opposite.
01:00:10.000That's her job, to be like, look, why is the medical correspondence there if you don't know?
01:00:13.000Michael, you've done a lot of these shows, and I think part of, and this is, again, I don't, I have no disagreement with Erin Burnett.
01:00:18.000I think the problem is these goddamn short-form shows.
01:00:22.000This is no way to discuss something that's incredibly nuanced and very difficult to discuss and very important, and you're dealing with the differences in, there's so many variables in terms of age, in terms of, Immune systems, health.
01:00:37.000There's so many factors that we need to take into consideration when we're talking about people that get sick.
01:00:42.000But I disagree with you, because it's not a short-form thing.
01:00:44.000Like you said, I've done a lot of these shows, and a lot of times I'm talking out of my ass.
01:00:47.000So what I make sure to say is, it is my understanding, or as far as I know, or I was under the impression that.
01:00:54.000You coach it in those terms, so the person listening will be like, this is my opinion, and I'm not completely informed.
01:01:00.000She is saying, this is her quote, basic facts.
01:01:04.000That's a very different way of framing what she's saying.
01:01:06.000Well, also, when she's saying that you're not going to talk him into getting the vaccine, I don't fucking need the vaccine.
01:01:52.000Well, Rolling Stone also printed a completely fake story about gunshot victims in Oklahoma needing to wait to get into the ER because there were so many people that were overdosing on horse medication, which is a fucking total lie.
01:02:08.000Not only that, the amount of ivermectin you would need to take to have an overdose is fucking massive.
01:02:13.000But Joe, didn't they also have a picture of people lining up outside wearing winter coats in Oklahoma?
01:03:14.000I have friends that are journalists that tell me, their editors tell them this.
01:03:19.000That you have to, even if you're being deceptive in your headlines, and maybe sometimes they will submit something with one headline and it'll be changed.
01:03:29.000But yeah, they often don't write their own headlines.
01:03:35.000And they're trying to get as many people to click on it as possible, and if they can do it by being deceptive, it can make a difference if 10-15% clicks, which is huge!
01:04:09.000But I also think making it inflammatory gives them power because if you're the one who's getting an emotional reaction of a person, you're creating a bond with them.
01:04:18.000I see your point, but I don't think that's the motivation.
01:04:21.000I think the motivation is not power, it's finances.
01:04:48.000Every market is good or bad doesn't mean the individual organization is going to do well or poorly.
01:04:52.000I think the only people that are thriving in this market are the Matt Taibbi's and the Glenn Greenwald's and the Barry Weiss's who are independent, who have low overhead and have moved to Substack.
01:05:01.000Those are the people that are thriving.
01:05:03.000Because people are like, someone, or the Alex Berenson, someone please tell me the truth.
01:05:09.000But this is also why people who work at these kind of institutions, they do not have it in them to have people attract them on a personal level.
01:05:18.000So they have to repeat the party line because someone who works for Let's Suppose Reason magazine isn't going to be someone whose podcast you're going to want to listen to or the sub stack you're going to subscribe.
01:05:57.000But I was proud to deliver the New York Times.
01:06:00.000I used to deliver the Boston Globe, that was my main account, and then I also had the Boston Herald, and I got a New York Times account.
01:06:06.000I was like, I'm But it was too much of a pain in the ass cuz I lived in Boston and like the routes were so Wide like I would have to drive like seven miles to drop off 30 papers It was too crazy whereas with Boston I would go this house gets it this house gets it that house doesn't this house get it was so many houses got the globe and then the Herald was like half the amount and then the times is like 1 8th the amount of Boston a lot of people did get the times but you gotta A blue bag for
01:07:27.000The hate that he's getting is undeserved.
01:07:29.000And meanwhile, I'm the subject of the disinformation, right?
01:07:32.000I'm the guy who had the conversation with him.
01:07:34.000And when he's saying that he walked into the lion's den and he was worried that I was going to throttle his neck, that's his attempt at humor.
01:09:04.000Because that's where the poisoning starts.
01:09:06.000That's when they teach everyone to kind of promulgate these demented ideas and spread them out through academia or through entertainment, through the corporate press.
01:09:14.000Dude, the government has come in and glued my blunts.
01:09:17.000Look, all of a sudden they're on fire and look...
01:10:08.000You ever been in an argument with someone, like you hate someone, you don't like them, and then some way or another, either they reach out to you or you reach out to them, and then you become friends?
01:10:21.000This way of communicating that we're doing, where I'm talking shit about them and they're talking shit about me, like, I'm a very friendly person.
01:10:29.000If I'm with those people in a room, we'd have a different perspective on each other.
01:10:36.000And I think that's the problem with everything.
01:10:38.000Even the way CNN does what they do, like, the only reason why they're allowed to do what they do is because no one's there to say, hey, This is not right.
01:10:53.000When you have one-way communication, you run the risk of being this person who disseminates disinformation or propaganda without even realizing what you're doing is wrong.
01:11:07.000But they have plenty of two-way information because they're called on their crap all the time on social media.
01:11:11.000And they see it, and now they have choice to respond to it.
01:12:01.000Look, I'm sure he's a nice person, a friendly person, Jeff Zucker.
01:12:05.000But if he's seeing all this feedback, and he's organizing his organization in the same way that has prior, that causes people to end up lying, that the buck has to stop somewhere.
01:12:17.000Well, this is one instance where I can prove that it's a lie.
01:12:20.000And it's like, it's in your face, and it's because it's me as a human being, you know, and I'm aware of it.
01:12:26.000We have this thought that a large percentage of what CNN and most mainstream media sites say are curated and cultivated and there's a motivation behind it and it's not objective sort of You know,
01:12:43.000like, what's the gold standard of news today?
01:14:17.000If you go to FuckTards.org, you can see my tweet threads from 2019, article after article talking about Kamala Harris, and none of them mentioning Tulsi Gabbard.
01:16:57.000But when I was saying that, it's not...
01:16:59.000Like, when he's saying, I should get vaccinated, and I'm telling him, well, there's a greater chance of complications if you've already had COVID and get vaccinated, and I have friends that have actually been vaccinated after COVID, and most of them were fine, but three of them that I know personally got fucking wrecked.
01:19:52.000I'm trying to remember the name of it.
01:19:54.000Propene glycolate or some shit like that, but it's in shampoo, and it's also in some of the vaccines, and it's like a part of how they made it.
01:20:04.000And some people have allergic reaction to it.
01:20:06.000Sam Harris had a really good point about this.
01:20:09.000He said if you give a million people peanuts, Of course.
01:20:12.000You're going to have a lot of problems.
01:22:06.000This is only one part of this giant puzzle.
01:22:09.000And my confusion on this, I understand where it's coming from, but my frustration is that it's really obvious that other things can be done to enhance our immune systems and there's no promotion of that.
01:22:25.000Whether it's a change in diet, whether it's exercise, whether it's meditation, there's a lot of things that you can do to enhance your immune system and none of those are being discussed.
01:22:34.000The only thing that's being discussed is things that are capable of generating money.
01:22:58.000It's a Brian De Palma movie written by Albert Stone.
01:23:01.000If I don't understand how you can say these aren't bad people when they are trying to internationally create a society where if you do not get this vaccine, which in many cases, like your MMA guy, Having deleterious consequences, these people are going to be fired and can't go to a supermarket.
01:23:18.000That is not something, there's room for nuance in this and they're trying to make it as if it's a black and white issue, which it is clearly not, as with anything medical.
01:23:43.000I think control is a natural consequence, in this instance, of people that truly believe they're trying to do the right thing and they're attached to a machine that wants control.
01:24:47.000I don't want to single them out here in this regard.
01:24:48.000They create this stuff thinking this is what you're supposed to create.
01:24:51.000I think this is where we're getting confused.
01:24:53.000We think of it as like all these people that you went to college with and hung out with when you're young and now they work for CNN and they're evil.
01:25:32.000Good and evil I don't think are useful necessarily in this context.
01:25:36.000What I'm saying is you go to the university and you are punished if you do not follow the overwhelming philosophy and you're rewarded if you are submissive and repetitive and are going to promulgate that philosophy once you leave the university system.
01:25:52.000In the same way that everyone – if you go to McDonald's in – I think?
01:26:15.000We're going to have this perception of unanimity.
01:26:39.000What happened is over 100 years ago, people like Richard Eli, who started the American Economics Association, I talked about this in an old book of mine that you write, basically his idea is we need to introduce the idea of a mixed economy into economics.
01:26:51.000This whole classical liberal thing isn't working for us.
01:26:56.000As a result of that, there's an understanding.
01:26:58.000They talk about the university about creating the next generation of leaders.
01:27:02.000What that means, it's an Orwellian way of saying we're training people who are going to be the overclass, who are going to rule and manipulate the country for good reasons.
01:27:13.000And if you're a member of the overclass, you have stature.
01:27:17.000It's important for you to be perceived as a good, honest person, but I'm still a good, honest person above the rest of you.
01:27:24.000And when the rest of you start criticizing me and start being defiant, you're confused because you were trained to think you are in a position to rule over them and lead over them.
01:27:34.000So is it a natural state where groups lead over other groups?
01:27:39.000It seems like if you looked at the human race objectively, if you didn't attach yourself to culture, you looked at it objectively, like how many of these groups of humans Form into this organization where one person rules with fear and force.
01:27:54.000It's almost never because he's got to have a bunch of people around him.
01:27:58.000Right, but one person is usually the top.
01:28:38.000Because the premise of Lord of the Flies, which we're all taught in high school, it's still a signed reading, is if you had a bunch of kids stuck in a desert island...
01:28:45.000They'd start killing each other and be savages and it'd be violent, right?
01:28:49.000Because the idea, the Hobbesian idea is civilization is very thin underneath that human beings are basically violent.
01:29:48.000And you have to worry about the murders and rapists.
01:29:50.000You could get the wrong guy on an island and then you have a slaughter fest and people start cannibalizing people.
01:29:55.000All it would take is the wrong guy to kill one of the people and to keep everybody in fear and then everybody would plot to kill that guy and he would try to kill you when you're sleeping and then the next thing you know it's a fucking, it's a terrible story.
01:30:09.000Or you could have Lord of the Flies Turned out, the way you're saying, where the kids get together and they help each other and the kid breaks his leg and everybody comes together.
01:30:37.000Like, if you get a thousand humans, one of them is going to be out of his fucking mind.
01:30:42.000And if you were on a boat with that guy, and that boat gets shipwrecked, and then you realize that no one is in charge, and that motherfucker could just run shit and tell you that he eats all the coconuts, and you gotta fight him, and he's bigger than you, and you're like, fuck!
01:33:02.000There's a thing where it's not a person anymore, but it has all this power.
01:33:05.000It seems to be like it's always going to try to get ahead.
01:33:10.000And if things are always going to try to get ahead and they're not going to take into consideration the way it makes people feel, because you're not thinking about feeling anymore when you deal with numbers, right?
01:33:19.000So you have a corporation that's battling other corporations.
01:33:25.000Like, numbers are not feelings, but we operate on feelings.
01:33:29.000So if we are part of a corporation, then we're a part of a thing that doesn't take into consideration what it means to be us, to be feeling.
01:33:36.000But this has historically been the strongest aspect of the left, which is skepticism of corporate America, and understanding that giant corporations do not care about mom and pop or you, that they are there to get money, and that they have no choice, because they have a duty to their shareholders to make as much profit as possible,
01:33:53.000And this whole corporate responsibility is often a good veneer for this.
01:33:56.000But now, it's like we have to be on our knees blowing Pfizer because they're saving us all.
01:34:01.000And people on the left were saying this with a straight face.
01:34:04.000Well, it's crazy because what it is, is it's great evidence that this idea of parties is bullshit.
01:34:13.000And that human beings, we operate on this really wide range.
01:34:17.000It's a giant spectrum, and we should have agreements of how things go and what's important and what's not important, and we should talk about these things, but we have to recognize, first and foremost, that we're instinctively tribal.
01:34:31.000It's a part of our DNA, and it's fucking us up.
01:34:44.000And whether you call them a Republican or whether you call them Libertarians, those people are your enemy.
01:34:50.000And if you're freaking out all the time, thinking of this other group of humans that probably shares way more in common with you than they don't, like when it really gets down to politics, like what does everybody really care about in life?
01:39:11.000Do you guys want to see Tenacious D? Do you guys want to hear your heroes of my Tenacious D? Okay, if I do this next joke and you don't boo me, I'll bring out Tenacious D. And he goes, uh, what did Santa Claus get Paris Hilton for her birthday,
01:40:16.000Shout out to the waitresses out there, all walking around on fucking concrete all day.
01:40:20.000Trying to get elbowed away through people.
01:40:22.000Dude, some of those gals, when I watch them at the Comedy Store, I'm like, the fucking poise to carry a tray of drinks and walk through drunks, a maze of stumbling drunks, and the sheer number that are successful versus, like, crashes.
01:41:19.000Like, if there's people that really hated you and they were the enemy, people that just joked around about stuff wouldn't be thought of as the enemy.
01:41:26.000It's like, and as the level of people truly hate you drops, You start looking for equilibrium in what you're upset about.
01:41:33.000And so now you're more upset about jokes.
01:41:37.000And now you can't just be this, you have to be that.
01:41:40.000And it becomes this weird control level where people start to conflate.
01:41:47.000When you start equating jokes with real feelings, They're not the same thing.
01:41:54.000Well, I don't think that's what it is.
01:41:55.000I think they're trying to put different individuals or groups on a pedestal and kind of make them sacred.
01:41:59.000And when you have someone comes along and knocks them off that pedestal, all of a sudden you're trying to undo what I'm trying to do, which is to make this person holy.
01:42:05.000And now you are my enemy because your agenda is the opposite of mine.
01:43:28.000He's just a guy who loves this art form called stand-up comedy and he tries to do his best navigating through this world of talking shit about things and saying outrageous things that get huge laughs or Placating really sensitive groups that feel like they're in a protected class and then the other people that pile on to that that also feel like this is a protected class and they equate to Any jokes with hate.
01:44:07.000And if you really pay attention to what he's saying, Whether you agree with him or not in some of his jokes, like whether or not they're funny, just really pay attention to the overall message.
01:44:21.000But this is a way for low-status people to try to compete with Dave and try to get on his level.
01:44:26.000Because if I'm some kind of rando journalist and I take down Dave Chappelle or Joe Rogan or somebody else, this elevates my status and my rank and takes him down a peg, and that's useful for me from an evolutionary point of view.
01:44:47.000You have to equate that in anything you think about when you think about a guy like Dave Chappelle.
01:44:54.000But then you also have to realize that the problem is in listening to everybody You're gonna get a certain group of people that want people to not be able to work anymore.
01:45:36.000When you have options You don't have to like it, but if you want Netflix to take it down and you say it's hateful This is this is an incorrect way to do this If you want to make your own special about what was wrong with Dave Chappelle's special- Or go on YouTube with your monologue like Keith Alderman.
01:45:53.000Go for it and good luck to you and maybe you'll have a point That person that you're criticizing can take into consideration and go, maybe I could do better at this.
01:46:03.000Because if something does bother you, if someone says something ridiculous about you, and it doesn't make any sense, it doesn't have any effect on you.
01:46:10.000The things that bother people is things that are at least slightly accurate.
01:46:13.000But I think this just kind of speaks to what we were talking about earlier, how they're trying to have their be...
01:47:40.000There's a lot of it that's just designed to be funny while he's telling a story.
01:47:46.000It's one of the things that Dave does so well.
01:47:48.000He tells these stories and he figures out a way to get his point across while being really funny.
01:47:55.000But when you're going to be really funny, you're going to make fun of yourself, you're going to make fun of other people, you're going to make fun of everything.
01:48:04.000You have the Jewish guy, you have the Italian guy, you have the Puerto Rican guy, you have the black guy.
01:48:08.000Everyone's busting each other's chops, and that's how you symbolize that you're comfortable with each other.
01:48:13.000I'm safe with you by saying things that would get me in trouble in other contexts, and I trust you enough to know that you're not going to use that in a bad way, that we're all bros here.
01:48:22.000Dude, I had a podcast the other day with Tony Hinchcliffe and Brian Redband.
01:49:46.000Friends that have never had their heart broken, friends that have never failed, where they just literally wanted to just jump off a bridge.
01:50:36.000And then I'm like, the thing is, when you lose something that means a lot to you, even though it's just sentimental, and the thing is with raw denim, it takes years to break them in and so on and so forth.
01:50:44.000There might be an Excel sheet involved that I'm not going to talk about.
01:50:48.000But the thing is, when they've taken that, you have to wonder, what else have I missing?
01:50:52.000So every day when I was unpacking these boxes, I was like, what?
01:50:56.000And I'm not going to remember what's gone, because it's like, I have what I have, but I don't remember what was left in Brooklyn.
01:51:02.000And last week, I was opening up this wardrobe box, which was as tall as me, seven-eighths empty, and under some frames was all my denim.
01:51:10.000It was like pulling a sofa out of a wallet.
01:51:33.000There's guys out there digging into the side of a mountain in the Congo with a stick to try to get the minerals to use to make your iPhone, and people are listening on that iPhone to you talking about you couldn't find your pants.
01:54:18.000Yeah, there's a big – because there are these machines called – I forget what they're called.
01:54:21.000They're made in Switzerland to print American money.
01:54:24.000And apparently North Korea – there's some dispute whether they have this – are like the world's best at making counterfeit U.S. dollars because they're making real U.S. dollars on the machines that we use.
01:54:36.000North Korea's fucking us by making more of our own money.
01:54:38.000Well, I mean, not as much as we're making.
01:54:40.000I mean, the Federal Reserve's been printing that shit.
01:54:42.000The inflation, which is a tax on poor people, is through the roof.
01:54:46.000Well, clearly, you don't understand that the government loves you, and they're just trying to make everything run smooth, you fucking communist.
01:55:31.000Okay, but you've got to realize that we're just human beings.
01:55:34.000If you're not a racist, you agree that all human beings are essentially, we vary in different ways and sizes, but we're just all human beings.
01:55:48.000But if there is a group of people in 2021 that are living like the people are living in North Korea that are under the grip of that government, that's possible anywhere.
01:55:59.000With the wrong things, with the wrong set of circumstances, the wrong events taking place, the wrong people getting to power.
01:56:06.000Just like you could get shipwrecked with the wrong person and wind up in a fucking horror movie, or you can get shipwrecked with the right people and wind up in a beautiful movie.
01:56:16.000Well, that's why I went there, because, you know, Being born in the Soviet Union, by that time the Soviet Union was nowhere near as bad as it had been back in the day, but this was my only chance to see what my family could have gone through, you know, and they have concentration camps, like being Jewish, I could have been in a camp in Eastern Europe very easily, so to see what it was like for my family in a parallel universe,
01:56:42.000I hesitate to even bring this up because I don't want to take it out of context, but our positions, when it comes to just ideas about mandates and vaccines and how we mask or no mask, just these weird sort of tribal issues,
01:56:57.000these things that happen with people, when we start looking at each other as the other...
01:57:03.000As someone who is less than, when we have power over the other, when we want to control the situation because we're the good people, and we want to do it by any means necessary, there's a slope.
01:57:17.000The reason why the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights the way they did is they're like, okay, there's some patterns that we need to mitigate.
01:57:31.000I can't know who's right unless both people talk.
01:57:35.000If two people talk and I get to figure it out, we get to debate back and forth.
01:57:40.000And if we're honest about it, we can figure out who's right.
01:57:43.000But if you can say that person can't talk because I'm right, now I'm in the dark.
01:57:46.000Yeah, I got in trouble for this tweet.
01:57:48.000I didn't get ratioed because I said, if you replace the word coronavirus with Jews, all of a sudden the behavior of the 1930s German population becomes eerily similar.
01:57:57.000And what I meant by that is, we all wring our hands about how the Holocaust happened.
01:58:01.000How did the Germans go from a normal people to within four years being like, comfortable with or turn their blind eye to genocide?
01:58:08.000And what we're seeing with the corona, And we got a long ways to go before it's Nazi Germany.
01:58:41.000To snitch on their neighbors because they felt that they were doing the right thing and it gave them a sense of power and a sense of status.
01:59:02.000So when you see, we're talking about human beings, a lot of people are very eager to drop that dime and pick up that phone call because then they would turn it on Anne Frank and then they'd boast about it on social media.
01:59:24.000I think there's like a state that we need to reach.
01:59:27.000As an organism, as a human organism, there's a state we need to reach physically where we feel like we're in homeostasis, where everything's balanced out and most of us don't get there.
01:59:38.000Most of us, we don't ever achieve that state physically and so we have this compounding anxiety.
01:59:45.000From not achieving that state physically, that piles into the way we look at it mentally, the way we view the world, the way we think about things.
01:59:54.000That gets more anxiety-ridden because you haven't taken care of the needs of the body, so it's not balanced.
01:59:59.000Well, there's also an enormous psychological incentive to be part of the in-group.
02:00:03.000Because at the very least, if we're going down, we're all going down together, I'm part of the in-group, the numbers are in my favor, so I can compete on the metric of obedience.
02:00:11.000If I have nothing to offer, at least I can follow orders and be a good person in the world.
02:00:15.000And shout it out so other people agree with me.
02:00:18.000And all the other cowards go, yeah, yeah, let's get him.
02:00:23.000Yeah, so H.L. Mencken said the average man does not want to be free, he merely wants to be safe, and he absolutely nailed it.
02:00:29.000I feel like we should pause all science until we can figure out if masks work.
02:00:34.000We've got to stop the science until we figure out what's going on.
02:00:38.000All you experiments, all you scientists, please tell me if masks work because I don't understand both sides.
02:00:48.000I don't understand how it doesn't work a little.
02:00:50.000If you have a fucking thing across your face and you're breathing into it, that means it's got to hit some shit before it goes out into the world.
02:01:37.000What if, like, if you're near a person, if we realize that cotton doesn't work, but this shit, you know, you make hemp, hemp masks, or whatever the fuck it is, like, this one works 100%.
02:02:45.000There's a website called minimallycompliantmask.com, which I used to wear to the gym because it looks like you're wearing a mask, but you're not wearing a mask.
02:04:12.000We have these primal instincts in these human reward patterns that existed to make us survive against invasions of foreign mercenaries and barbarians and shit.
02:04:25.000Fully ingrained in what it means to be a human being.
02:04:28.000And we apply them when they don't exist.
02:04:30.000We start applying them to other people that vary from us slightly.
02:04:35.000There's people on the left that are attacking people that are in the center.
02:04:38.000If you had a chart of things that people in the center agree with and people on the left agree with, God, you're going to get really close.
02:04:45.000There's a huge percentage of the population that thinks that if we decrease the size of our military, China's going to invade us.
02:04:54.000places where we have an interest but invade america and it's like how would that even be possible even if our military was half the size that we wouldn't see it coming it's nonsensical but they it used to be russia now it's china you know china just long china's a little more interesting than russia because they have a far greater economic power than russia ever had what china has is this unusual integration With capitalism and communism that's
02:05:24.000never existed before on mass scale like this, also in the world of the internet.
02:05:30.000Like, it's a wild thing that they're able to do.
02:05:33.000But what China just recently launched, they found out that they launched a supersonic weapon.
02:06:26.000So they've obviously been developing something.
02:06:30.000Their position is like if you read anything about China's view or you talk to people about China the way they view the world, it's so unique that their business and their government is completely intertwined.
02:07:54.000No, it was something to do with AI. It was some sort of component of these super advanced computer systems.
02:08:02.000And they went into business with China, and they had this deal, and all of a sudden, they tried to remove the Chinese guy From the company.
02:08:12.000They're like, hey, we got to, like, separate from you guys.
02:08:14.000Like, what are you doing with our intellectual property?
02:08:16.000And then they cut off communication, and China just reopens this company, because they bought, like, 51% of the company, and they just take their internet ideas, like, whatever they're...
02:08:30.000You know, the thing about AI was, whatever they actually designed there, and then they opened it up in China under a different name.
02:08:37.000They just changed the name like we own it.
02:08:39.000So Sagar did a whole piece on it calling the heist of the century.
02:08:43.000It is fucking fascinating because you realize that these people are like, hey, we're going to get rich, Bob.
02:08:47.000I'm telling you, you're going to get a brand new jet.
02:08:50.000And these guys start thinking about money.
02:11:58.000Anyway, Sagar's breakdown of it was fucking fantastic because he was explaining that you're not hearing about this on mainstream publications in the news and newspapers.
02:12:07.000He goes, this is a really important story.
02:12:15.000I keep wanting to say like silicone chips because I'm old.
02:12:17.000But I mean, do you not think that there is enormous background music, so to speak, in corporate media to kind of soft pedal things against China?
02:12:27.000I think there is, but I'm not sure why.
02:12:30.000Do you think they do it to encourage relationships with like companies that are based in China or work with China?
02:12:37.000Like what do you think is the motivation?
02:12:40.000But it just seems that there's a lot of bad things about China that we're not being told.
02:12:44.000And I don't think it's a coincidence that we're not being...
02:12:48.000And the fact that so many corporations are happy to bend the knee when it comes to adding access to those Chinese markets is very disturbing to see.
02:12:56.000Well, didn't they just, some social media site agreed to, or Wikipedia agreed to block the Quran and the Bible in there or something like that?
02:13:38.000It's a real problem if Apple decides to give in and start banning these applications based on religious beliefs.
02:13:50.000Like, you're gonna ban it because the government doesn't want you to have an option to click on something that is about, you know, the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita or whatever the fuck it is.
02:14:07.000Like if you're willing to accept censorship, and I've heard this argument from someone that I am friends with that used to work with Google, they used to work at Google, and they were doing something with China, and they were really concerned because they were communicating with China, and this was the attitude.
02:14:23.000If we don't do this, China is just going to copy everything that Google does.
02:14:26.000They're going to steal Google, like steal all of the infrastructure, they're going to find a way into it, and they're going to make their own Google.
02:14:33.000So they're trying to work with Google.
02:14:35.000So, but the way, or with China rather, but the only way to work with them is you've got to follow their rules.
02:14:40.000Yeah, and I mean, this is the slippery slope made incarnate.
02:14:43.000This is why Apple is in a precarious position, because if the world knows that you're willing to ban this one application that studies the Quran, what is the app?
02:14:53.000It says that, it's not the greatest website for news, but it said that they're talking with someone and they're working to get it back up.
02:16:57.000It's important to know what that means.
02:17:00.000When someone's perspective is equally well thought out but differs, we are all in competition, whether it's physically or mentally or financially or status-wise, and sometimes we'll get caught up in ideas.
02:17:15.000And I think it's the best, for everyone alive, it's best we don't look at ideas as something that's a part of us.
02:18:35.000So if your ideas are wrong, one of the things that people do that's so common is you argue For your idea as if it is you.
02:18:44.000Like you're connected completely to it to the point where you're willing to lie about whether or not the idea is accurate, even if you know it's not accurate.
02:18:54.000Like saying something is horse dewormer, when you know it was prescribed for humans for years before it was prescribed for horses.
02:19:02.000That's well known when you're saying that.
02:19:04.000But what you're trying to do is just win.
02:19:06.000You're trying to win because that idea is connected to you.
02:19:09.000But that's the wrong idea to have that you should be trying to win.
02:20:26.000He's saying that masks are a good idea?
02:20:28.000I think he had to take part in some study.
02:20:29.000I don't even know what they're referring to.
02:20:31.000The point is, there's no circumstance where I'm going to be denouncing people I like publicly.
02:20:36.000If I had an issue with any of my friends, first of all, it's better persuasion to sit them down privately and be like, hey, what's going on here?
02:21:10.000Well, you're an asshole and you're also trapped in this ideology of wokeness that's not applicable to friendships.
02:21:19.000You don't know where a person was coming from, what actually happened, you hear a story, and then all of a sudden you're taking the side of...
02:21:28.000One over the other and you're not even calling that person.
02:21:30.000Public displays of any kind of opinions or feelings or outrage have to be examined very carefully because there's a thing about deciding to do something publicly.
02:21:44.000You are broadcasting it in full awareness of your own personal image.
02:21:49.000There's something about that that we don't say while a person is doing it, but we all kind of know, but we're willing to ignore it if enough people pile on and agree that this is a good message.
02:22:02.000So people will try to have these public displays of virtue where you know why they're doing it.
02:22:08.000This is a little fucking fake, man, but I'm going to...
02:22:34.000Or did they just decide to make this big, public, virtuous event of them having an opinion It differs from that other person's opinion to cloud chase.
02:22:44.000Why would I want to be friends with someone who, when shit hits the fan, their first impulse is to publicly distance themselves from me?
02:22:51.000What kind of person are you and of what use are you?
02:22:54.000You're good, maybe I could chat with you at a party, but if things are going bad for me, I want someone who I could call up on the phone and be like, hey, shit's hitting the fan, do you have my back?
02:23:03.000You don't have to have it publicly, but can you at least kind of give me some kind of comfort or sucker?
02:25:57.000I have a video that I never released, because I'm like, this is irresponsible.
02:26:02.000But it's me listening to Led Zeppelin, a whole lot of love, and like, Moving my hands around the steering wheel, not really driving at all because we're on the PCH. How much do they cost?
02:27:35.000He wrote this article for the Rolling Stone and in it a lot of the general that he was hanging out with and a few of the other people there.
02:28:49.000And he was a very prolific journalist and a very successful journalist.
02:28:52.000And they had asked these people who understood Technology and military applications, whether or not it was possible at that time to pilot a car and drive it into it, to take control of a car.
02:29:14.000If you have a car today, like a modern car with electronics and an internet connection and all that jazz like most cars do, it's 100% possible for some shenanigans to take control.
02:29:26.000I had Jessica Tarlov on my show a couple years ago.
02:29:29.000She's like a hardcore Clinton Democrat, great woman.
02:29:35.000Even though I don't agree with her politically, she's tough.
02:29:39.000And I was asking her, I'm like, look, every president has to make the choice about war.
02:29:44.000And they know when they're making that choice about war that they're going to kill a lot of American soldiers, and even if we pretend we don't care about lives of people in other countries.
02:29:51.000I said, if that person is in that mindset, why would you put it past them to kill one or two people who are in their way?
02:29:59.000If they're comfortable killing all these soldiers, why wouldn't they kill that one person who's threat to power, just psychologically?
02:30:04.000And she's like, yeah, I agree with you.
02:30:06.000Now, it doesn't mean that every one of these things happen, but G. Gordon Liddy, who was one of Nixon's Watergate people, He was on Fear Factor, by the way.
02:30:30.000When he was a kid, he tried to conquer his fear.
02:30:32.000Like he would burn his hand and walk on the book and stuff like that.
02:30:35.000He was in his 60s when he was on Fear Factor and we hung him by his ankles and dumped him into the water with a bunch of cord over and over again.
02:33:29.000But these images, you show Hitler, and you talk about freedom, and people go, what are you saying?
02:33:35.000Joe, just this past summer, the U.S. government drone strikes a bunch of children and called them ISIS-K, because K stands for kindergarten in this context, apparently.
02:33:43.000And no one who did this had any consequences for it.
02:33:58.000It wasn't the right people to kill, and the idea that their lives aren't as important, like, if that was done, like, let's imagine that that same drone strike was done, but it hit the Trump family, and it was Ivanka Trump and Jared Trump and Barron Trump and Melania,
02:34:14.000and they all got murdered by a drone, you'd be like, holy shit!
02:34:19.000Like, we're sorry, we thought they were terrorists.
02:35:13.000If that had happened and it was Trump and Trump had killed a bunch of people accidentally and seven of them were children, that would be a giant story.
02:42:11.000Bear fat was very valuable, and bears were very valuable.
02:42:15.000During the pioneer days, during those days where the settlers were making their way west, in Arkansas in particular, where he's from, bears were more important than deer, more important than any Yeah, they're a game animal.
02:42:28.000I'm into wet shaving and I was going to get some shaving soap made with bear tallow and she couldn't get the tallow because it was hard to find now.
02:46:10.000This is about, I think, the best I'll get is this first paragraph here, maybe, which is...
02:46:16.000Oh, when whole genome sequencing indicates that while dogs are genetically divergent subspecies as a gray wolf, the dog is not a descendant of the extant gray wolf.
02:46:27.000Rather, they are sister taxa which share a common ancestor from a ghost population of wolves that disappeared.
02:46:36.000At the end of the late Pleistocene, oh my god, I sense a movie!
02:46:39.000The dog and the dingo are not separate species.
02:46:53.000So it seems like the dingo were probably...
02:46:56.000You know, there's a problem with that in parts of rural Georgia.
02:46:59.000Yeah, I believe a woman, someone got killed, I think it was a woman, got killed by domestic dogs that are wild in Georgia recently and torn apart.
02:47:14.000Tom Shalhoub, who I think he's still on Fox, I don't remember, like he had a book and I read his book and he talked about how when he was a kid in Boston, like in the 50s or 60s, there'd be packs of dogs that would maul kids on their bikes.
02:47:52.000That's the fucked up thing about people is how quickly they accept whatever the circumstances are.
02:47:58.000And this is one of the things about COVID that we've realized is how quick it is for people to change the way they think and change their behavior.
02:50:01.000Again, they don't know how it got in there, how they didn't find her in the back of the parking lot for two weeks.
02:50:06.000But if you don't use a certain van for two weeks, that's terrifying.
02:50:10.000Here's the thing, like, I don't know how those things work, but if the lock works on the outside, but there's no handles on the inside because you've got prisoners, you could easily open that up and go, I'm going to take a nap in here.
02:51:14.000And all of a sudden it's 75. You're like, oh my god, I have to drink my own urine.
02:51:19.000So then you're trying to figure out, you, Michael Malice, you, trying to figure out how to stay alive, tripping balls.
02:51:25.000You were hanging out with Burt Kreischer, and he got you hammered, and he climbed into a police car, and you're like, fuck the police, and you took a nap.
02:51:31.000Joe, if I'm tripping balls, why am I going to where the cops are?
02:51:36.000Because you're so high you don't know what you're doing.
02:54:22.000Yeah, and I think that if you looked at what it is, if you could take what a human is, what entails being a human being, and you could narrow it down to a specific group of elements and ingredients...
02:54:40.000So, it's possible with the wrong set of circumstances, the wrong events, the wrong humans in charge, to get to a point where people are so fucked that they're eating their kids.
02:55:01.000It takes thousands of years for us to change what it means to be a person, and we haven't really changed that much.
02:55:06.000In the late 1800s, early 1900s, the talking point was, we're never going to have war again, because now we're civilized, and we have technology, and we figured it out, and then came the Great War.
02:55:17.000And as a result of that, they had to invent plastic surgery because it was the first time you had human beings meeting metal machines of war and coming back all disfigured and completely deformed.
02:55:26.000And medical science increased to the point where you keep those people alive.
02:56:36.000Look at when you and I were kids, there was Sam Goody and Coconuts and The Wiz and those are the record stores and you can only get a certain amount of records and now those stores don't exist and there's more music than ever.
02:56:49.000And you get it the press of a button and for virtually nothing.
02:56:52.000So I think there's no reason for news to be as commodified and to be as centralized as it is.
02:57:05.000So they're used to the consumer, but not for the artists.
02:57:07.000There's plenty of artists who are making it happen.
02:57:11.000Look, for example, my books, you can bootleg them, and I'm not seeing a cent, but there's enough people who are paying that enables me to have that be my income.
02:57:20.000My book, The Anarchist Handbook, which I dropped in May, was the top nonfiction book on Amazon for a few hours, and I didn't go through a publisher.
02:57:27.000This is a new means of publishing, and I'm very, very excited about what that means for the future.
02:57:33.000It is really interesting that there's not a gatekeeper anymore.
03:00:14.000There's no reason to say something you don't really believe.
03:00:18.000If you think that it serves you, this is my interpretation, but if you think that it serves you to be a liar and to be disingenuous, ultimately, based on my own experience, it doesn't serve you.
03:00:30.000Because any victory you gain through deception You lose points in how you feel about yourself.
03:00:38.000It's also very hard to sustain a lie because a lie by definition is going against reality and at some point reality is going to catch up with you.
03:00:45.000It also keeps you from really connecting with people.
03:00:48.000They need to know that you're telling the truth.
03:00:53.000The people that I value the most are the people with humility and self-deprecation and honesty, and they can look at themselves for what the fuck they really are.
03:01:20.000It's a waste of energy like if you want to discuss it publicly like we just did on this podcast like me even this maybe an argument against that but Taking it personally is fucking dangerous, but I come on.
03:01:58.000Some people ask me how I deal with all the garbage on social media, and I'm like, look, I'm from New York, right?
03:02:03.000If you're in New York and someone gets up to you on the subway and starts cursing you and calling you stupid and all these other things, you're not going to take their comments under advisement.
03:02:10.000Your only thought is, how do I get away from this person as fast as possible?
03:03:31.000But you might decide, because you're defensive, that you read someone's interpretation of what you said and they get angry.
03:03:39.000My point is that there's a lesson to be learned about human beings interacting online that Hasn't really existed before this era that we're living in right now with the internet.
03:03:51.000When I say don't take anything personally, listening to what he's saying, I think we're dealing with a whole new level of that.
03:03:59.000And if you could just say, people just talk, like if you say something crazy or whatever you do, if I talk to you, I won't take anything personally unless I can look you in the eye and have a conversation with you.
03:04:58.000But I think the other thing young creators don't appreciate is make sure if you're creating a product, whether it's a book, podcast, whatever, that you're doing it for yourself.
03:05:06.000If you're comfortable, if you enjoy it, and it doesn't resonate with the audience, it doesn't mean that it's the wrong thing.
03:05:10.000Like, a lot of times I'll do things that people find stupid, but I'm having fun.
03:06:31.000When you get two sprinters talking shit to each other on the starting blocks, part of always doing your best is also talking shit to each other.
03:06:39.000Trying to make that person feel bad before you fucking launch yourself.
03:06:42.000Here's another way that Corolla always do your best.
03:06:44.000If you're asking for someone for a favor, make it as easy for them to say yes as possible.
03:07:11.000There's some people with some decent ideas that think that the way to get through is to have someone grab your hand and pull you up the mountain.
03:07:43.000And when you're young, you're going to ask your dumb little friends for advice, and they don't want to seem stupid, so they'll give you what they know, but they don't know what the hell they're talking about either.
03:09:56.000When a fucking cage-fighting commentator and a dirty comedian who started a podcast to talk shit while getting high with his friends, if that becomes a problem, why is that resonating with people?
03:10:10.000How can you be hopeless about America when this is the case?
03:10:40.000But why don't you talk like a person that I know?
03:10:44.000Do you know that back in the day in comic books, and this is Jermaine, they weren't allowed to have characters named Clint because in comic books when the letters are all written out in capitals, it looks like cunt.
03:10:56.000So they just put together a clip show for my YouTube called Malice Clips, but we're going to call it Malice Cups because it just looks fucking like that.
03:11:08.000Well, they made Bruce Banner from the comic books.
03:12:15.000Last year, there were 325 baby girls named Karen, which is fewer than the 439 who were given the name in 2019. So there's people hanging in there.