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00:00:55.000He's like, this is not something that's saving lives.
00:00:58.000If you could prove this was saving lives, he goes, maybe you can make some sort of ethical argument for doing this, but it doesn't save lives.
00:01:09.000It's twisted, and I don't understand it.
00:01:12.000Bipartisan legislators demand answers from Fauci on cruel puppy experiments.
00:01:17.000Our investigators show that Fauci's NIH division shipped part of a $375,800 grant to a lab in Tunisia to drug beagles and lock their heads in mesh cages filled with hungry sand flies so that the insects could eat them alive.
00:01:37.000I feel like in a normal society, this guy would just be completely retreated from the public by now.
00:01:44.000How is it possible, first of all, that now it's been proven, the NIH has now come out and said he lied.
00:01:51.000He lied in front of Congress about gain-of-function research.
00:01:54.000They funded gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab that worked on coronaviruses in the very Fucking area where a coronavirus got out and killed four million people with cleavage sites that were inserted into it that seemed to indicate that it's been manipulated.
00:02:26.000That's one of the ways I got traded on Twitter, from when Brett Weinstein was on, and Brett was saying this, that it seems to indicate, this was in April of 2020, Brett was saying, it seems to indicate that this is a virus that's been manipulated.
00:02:42.000And everyone's like, that is a dangerous conspiracy theory, and it's racist!
00:02:49.000Meanwhile, it's actually accurate, and it's our own government was involved, which is the most fucked up thing, because as things have been uncovered, as Josh Rogan uncovered it, Josh Rogan played a very big part in this, because Josh Rogan recognized that he was one of the first people,
00:03:05.000and he actually broke it on this podcast, that Fauci was the one who restarted the gain-of-function research, that whole Obama, rightly and smartly, had said, hey, stop doing that shit.
00:04:15.000In a shocking turn of events, the NIH... Has now admitted, which is interesting because if they're admitting that they funded game to function research, that means they're turning on that little monster.
00:04:25.000So if they're turning on him, that means we might actually see some progress here and a real objective understanding of what's happening.
00:04:33.000In major shift, NIH admits funding risky virus research in Wuhan.
00:04:41.000So if they're doing this, that means the tide has turned.
00:04:45.000A spokesperson for Dr. Fauci says he has been entirely truthful, but a new letter belatedly acknowledging that the National Institute of Health support for virus-enhancing research adds more heat to the ongoing debate over whether a lab leak could have sparked the pandemic.
00:07:27.000My neighborhood, just this last weekend, we were opening our door to go film Dumpster Fire, and there's always police helicopters around, so we're used to it.
00:07:36.000We often have to, like, pause because we're in such a high-class, like, filming environment.
00:07:44.000So there's always like some shit going down and we were used to having to pause for like the helicopters and we walk out and this over the PA it's like get inside your house, close your doors and lock them.
00:07:59.000And then we hear, put your hands up where we can see them and come out of the building.
00:08:05.000So apparently some guy had started on a local business and then guys chased this one guy out and he was trying to attack people with I don't even know what.
00:09:57.000You know, it's not like there's any...
00:09:59.000There doesn't seem to be anything stopping...
00:10:02.000And even, you saw when you left, and it's even worse.
00:10:06.000I mean, we go drive, and there are just full tent communities under pretty much every freeway.
00:10:12.000And it's hard because I'm a compassionate person who has empathy, and seeing this every day, you have to start to turn your heart off a little.
00:11:31.000What if you have one of them mobile ones that park everywhere?
00:11:34.000Well, because they used to have those strict laws about how you couldn't park, and now there are fires all the time because people in Venice are cooking meth, and they're...
00:14:27.000I mean, there's a lot of people trying to get clean in those shelters, so it would be very hard if you're surrounded by people who are doing drugs.
00:14:34.000Yeah, it's one of the dumbest things about Austin is that, I think they're moving it now, but there's a homeless shelter that's right next to 6th Street.
00:15:05.000If your intentions are really just to make money and your intentions are not to make people clean, you will have a never-ending supply of people that need rehab if you just go right to them.
00:18:13.000That was 2000. I started writing in, I think, 14, 15. Yeah, that's about right.
00:18:19.000Whenever the Vanity Fair cover came out, that's when I was like, okay.
00:18:22.000Because I had seen you do stuff before, but then I saw that bit, and I was like, whoa, your shit's gotten to another level sometime in the past couple of years, and then you told me to start a podcast.
00:18:53.000It's not to me, but it is to the lemmings.
00:18:56.000It's not to most average Americans, or average not even Americans.
00:19:00.000I really don't think what you and I talk about is controversial.
00:19:05.000It's controversial to people that only watch CNN and controversial to people that don't read and controversial to people that don't question narratives.
00:19:12.000They don't go, hey, why are they trying to vaccinate all the fucking kids when we know that it's not bad for kids?
00:19:43.000I mean, I had to dial it back on my big pharma skepticism because I was such a hippie for so many years.
00:19:51.000I ended up being really down that rabbit hole of like big pharma and I worked on weed farms and there's a lot of talk about that kind of thing up in those environments.
00:20:00.000And then people were saying, you know, they would point out like, well, they also develop a lot of other things that help people.
00:20:09.000And because there is competition and there is life-saving vaccines and medicine.
00:20:20.000When I say vaccinate kids, I mean for COVID-19.
00:20:23.000Clearly, but I want to be clear on that so that people don't take this out of context.
00:20:27.000They're going to be like, Joe Rogan's an anti-vaccine.
00:20:29.000My children are fully vaccinated for everything other than COVID, and they've both had COVID. Yeah.
00:20:33.000I wrote a piece making fun of all of the anti-vaxxers because there's a measles outbreak in LA. So I wrote a satirical piece about anti-vaxxers and people call me an anti-vaxxer for being against the mandates and the vax ports and things like that.
00:20:52.000They basically compare you to like Jenny McCarthy now.
00:20:55.000The crazy thing, I know, it's really funny, but the crazy thing about the vaccine thing is that the mandate in the beginning was dismissed by the White House, was dismissed by Jen Psaki, the press secretary was dismissed by everyone.
00:22:07.000The Australia thing's interesting because I remember being in Australia when I was on that cult, which we've talked about in past episodes.
00:22:26.000Yeah, so I was there, but we were driving around, and I remember there were all these police cameras that just took pictures if you were speeding, and there was already a little bit of a police state vibe in parts of Australia that I was like, No, I didn't expect this coming from Australia.
00:22:43.000And when I was going off about Australia, somebody pushed back and they said, you know, the overwhelming population will get in queues and line up and they're actually a people who will actually listen to rules and follow these orders.
00:23:03.000They have had low counts and whatever, but I still think it's terrifying.
00:24:38.000I was probably dehydrated because I don't think I had any water in like two days.
00:24:43.000I was like doing Molly during the day and doing blow at night and drinking through the whole thing and I was really obsessed with this like blueberry Red Bull that they had.
00:24:51.000I fucking hate Red Bull, but I was just drinking it with and it was like laced with Molly or whatever.
00:24:56.000So that was like and then we were in VIP. This is why I'm saying it's gonna get grosser guys.
00:25:01.000So bear with me and We're walking And I went down like, I just blacked out.
00:25:09.000I was like, I looked at my friend and I was like, I am fucking rolling.
00:27:35.00012-step because I had been in 12-step when I was 19-20 that first time and I hated it because I couldn't drink at all and I couldn't do anything and I just I came up with a big you know I I came up with a big case against 12-step I was like it's fear-based and blah blah and all the god stuff and I was off and running and My first husband and I were raging alcoholics.
00:29:17.000I went up to like Temescal because I was like, well, before I cop heroin, I should maybe pause and go for a hike.
00:29:23.000And sometime on that hike, I decided to go to a meeting that night because I'd done an experimental year of sobriety in like 2010. I was sweating.
00:31:25.000Because sometimes it's like people who come from, you know, finance or whatever, they were big shots and then they kind of lose everything.
00:31:31.000And so then they tell them to get a job, to humble themselves?
00:31:34.000Well, yeah, just for consistency and to be responsible and to have to show up.
00:32:13.000Got off that, but that kind of not being, I use that as an excuse to be like, oh, I'm not an addict because I'm not doing heroin anymore.
00:32:21.000So I use that to stay out for a long time as an excuse of like, well, as long as I'm not doing heroin, because anyone would get addicted to that.
00:32:29.000And so, yeah, I mean, it was a long, long journey to sobriety, and then I was very miserable, and somehow...
00:32:37.000And then around two years, like, the rubber just started meeting the road.
00:32:49.000You have so much energy when you get sober for somebody like me who is wasting a lot of it just drinking and partying.
00:32:56.000That I just had to do a lot of different things and I couldn't really deny that my quality of life improving drastically and starting to do things that I'd always wanted to do like be a paid writer.
00:33:09.000It didn't seem like an accident that it was a couple of years after I had been sober that these things started happening.
00:33:15.000And so while it was happening, did you follow any protocol?
00:34:24.000So there's a difference between people who are alcoholics, like they have a genetic propensity to alcoholism, and then people who just get in these bad ruts.
00:35:35.000I actually am glad that I have an addiction that I can just remove because so many people with like behavioral addictions, that shit's hard.
00:36:31.000Because there's so many people that lack structure and discipline and guidance and then you add in the propensity to alcoholism that many people have.
00:36:39.000And then you add in the fact that, I mean, come on, what percentage of people go out and have a few drinks?
00:36:47.000Like, what percentage of people that work all day long and then the weekend rolls around and they get together with friends from the office, they go, let's go have a few drinks.
00:37:57.000That happened when I was much younger.
00:38:00.000That happened to me when I was in high school and my mom had to pick me up and it was Mother's Day and someone had written slut on my forehead in permanent marker.
00:38:33.000There's a piece that I've been wanting to write for years about how I regret being a slut.
00:38:44.000I don't want to slut-shame myself or anyone.
00:38:49.000But I really was, like, hypersexual for many of my years, and I thought that I could kind of sleep my way to empowerment, and it was such a lie that I told myself, and I see young women struggling with a lot of this stuff now.
00:39:04.000What do you mean by sleeping your way to empowerment?
00:39:06.000Like, there's this whole message of, like, you can kind of fuck whoever you want, and, like, it's, you know, having sex, like, men get to do it, and women can do it, too, and I just...
00:39:16.000I think that the shame that I came into sobriety with, so much of it was around my sexual history and sexual life.
00:39:26.000And I think about how little self-esteem and self-worth.
00:39:31.000I mean, that was really what it got down to when I really started drilling down And what I still wrestle with to a certain extent is just a feeling of it's way better, but at the core of it is worthlessness.
00:39:46.000But that has to come from childhood, right?
00:39:52.000I mean, I think it maybe starts there, but I don't know.
00:39:56.000A lot of it became choices that I was making that reinforced that idea.
00:40:02.000So maybe there's some stuff from childhood that you feel worthless for whatever reason.
00:40:08.000And I think being raised Catholic doesn't help always.
00:40:12.000No, but I mean, if you're being ignored to the extent that you're drinking at 12 and you're becoming a full-blown alcoholic at 15, clearly you're not getting the attention you need.
00:40:36.000So there wasn't a real strong male figure in my life.
00:40:38.000And I think women do get a lot of that kind of self-esteem from their father or a good male figure in their life, kind of telling them that they're...
00:41:12.000It was like in and out of mental institutions and we never knew what we were coming home to and a lot of craziness and she was caught up with him, you know, trying to deal with him and his...
00:42:39.000That's what I feel like people sometimes don't understand.
00:42:42.000And a lot of people kind of in the elite media don't seem to understand this.
00:42:47.000If you're worried about your food or your parents or some shit going on at home, it gets hard to pay attention to your homework and care about these things.
00:42:56.000If your family system is out of control and you're not...
00:43:00.000And there's a lot of children in these kinds of environments.
00:43:03.000Well, I'm concerned about the state of these institutions across the board anyway.
00:43:10.000But for sure, it's really hard for people to sustain any kind of an education schedule.
00:44:15.000I felt that way when I was 19 and in rehab like I had just fucked up my whole life.
00:44:20.000And even though I was 19 and could have easily gone back to college and got a degree and had plenty of time, I was so disappointed in myself and I could not forgive myself for that or get over that disappointment.
00:44:32.000And then you just start burying yourself in more...
00:45:18.000I mean, I was acting and I wanted to be a writer and was very into all that stuff and I was going to film school for a minute after I got out of rehab and I really loved all of that.
00:45:28.000I think had I had some support even when I got out of rehab that I could have continued that.
00:45:35.000But yeah, I think if you don't have the...
00:45:38.000you need support from people and you need encouragement like you said.
00:45:42.000And then that's one of the reasons though that I do value my self-esteem so much because it's been built like brick by brick from scratch.
00:46:21.000Even in the space of the writers and the people who are writing these columns and substacks and all these things, not so much in comedy, but in the writing world, it's like all academics and people who generally went to colleges and they seemed like they had loving parents and support.
00:46:45.000And I sometimes feel like I don't belong in that world.
00:46:54.000You're a brilliant writer, and you write really interesting shit, and it's funny, and it's insightful, and I don't think you can think about what other people are doing.
00:47:03.000I don't think you should compare yourself to them people.
00:47:05.000I don't think you should ever say, you know, I'm competing with them.
00:47:09.000Well, it's like I feel like I don't have the pedigree to be in the space.
00:47:57.000It's part of being a person who is ruthlessly introspective and is constantly analyzing the work that you do and constantly trying to fix it and make it better and doing a lot of self-auditing with everything I do.
00:48:14.000I mean, that's part of it, too, is I'm just very hard on myself.
00:48:29.000You were checking on me once when I was tweeting about, I was like, I just Googled how to get rid of my jowls and you're like, are you okay?
00:48:36.000And I'm like, well now I really feel like a loser.
00:48:41.000Nothing will make you feel like a loser.
00:50:32.000I know, but it's so exciting because I actually think you're a good person and you deserve your success and I know you work very hard for it.
00:50:40.000You're one of the hardest working people I know and you're dedicated to your process and you're not just full of shit.
00:50:49.000One of the jokes I used to always tell is about how in The Secret the guy is like, you know, and I just had this idea for a book and then I envisioned the checks coming in the mail and the checks just showed up and I'm like, yeah, you wrote the fucking book!
00:51:03.000In between that, that's like where most people get tripped up is doing that work and setting those habits and being hard on yourself and working out and being diligent and And having some talent, too.
00:51:14.000There's a lot of people out there that are just, whatever it is, their brain just doesn't fit the square peg into the square hole.
00:53:10.000Everything's not going I go the last time I talked to you you're telling me about the secret and all that stuff and she goes yeah I don't know why but it's just not working and my father's an asshole and I can't you know that my job is not working I can't get the career I wanted and I still didn't have the heart to tell her she was nice and she's a little naive but my perspective on these things is always you can't listen to someone who succeeded in And say that the reason why they
00:53:40.000did it is because they believed and then they had a vision and they manifested it through the power of attraction, the law of attraction.
00:53:59.000Because acting is probably the number one most failed at attempt in careers, especially in Hollywood, which is one of the weirder things about living in Los Angeles is that whether you know it or not, you're around failed actors.
00:54:13.000There's a lot of my wife's former friends that you would dig below the surface and then you'd find, oh, they came out here to be an actor.
00:54:22.000And I think there's this false sense that you can make it because the opposite of that is that you're always surrounded by people who have made it.
00:54:32.000So you're always surrounded by failed actors, but as these actors who are trying to make it, they know someone who knows someone who did or they're friends with someone who's making it.
00:54:41.000And so there's this false idea that everybody can't.
00:54:45.000And then what fucked it up even worse is reality shows because then you didn't even have to have talent.
00:55:36.000So my point about it was that these people that think that just because someone is successful, and they'll tell you, what I did was I put a photograph on the- I sound like The Rock.
00:55:48.000I put a photograph on the wall of me walking the red carpet.
00:56:15.000Not getting hit by a car while you're jogging.
00:56:18.000There's a lot of shit that goes wrong with people that's just bad luck.
00:56:22.000So it's not just good luck has to happen, bad luck has to not happen.
00:56:27.000So if you're talking to these fucking assholes that are like, I've got my own jet, and the reason why is because I used the power of positive attraction.
00:56:34.000The law of attraction led me to victory and I can help you.
00:57:19.000Because at least you get a chance to try and practice.
00:57:23.000It's one of the rare art forms where you may not make any money out of it for a long time, but there's opportunities at open mic nights where you can practice.
00:57:34.000You get to communicate with other comics.
00:57:37.000One of the things about comics I find is that generally the nice ones, the good ones, are willing to talk to people that are on the way up and give them advice because it's so hard.
00:58:43.000She always talks about just how great he is and how great he's been, and she is truly, truly one of the funniest people out there right now.
01:00:17.000I mean, I also do, being that, I mean, speaking of Ali Wong, I love her so much because, especially with her specials fully pregnant, I'm like, oh my god.
01:01:07.000Yeah, being in that first trimester, I was like, oh, this is why there aren't women In everything.
01:01:14.000Not as many women, you know, when you talk about it.
01:01:16.000And I was thinking about just doing comedy.
01:01:18.000I'm like, oh my God, how did Allie and all these other women who have done this...
01:01:22.000And when you're feeling sick and hormonal and you want to get on stage and cry and you're actually just like...
01:01:30.000I was like, I don't know how women do it ever, anything, and have other kids that they have to deal with when they're feeling sick and working.
01:01:51.000I mean, if you had a regular job, right, and now you have to do the regular job with a 45-pound backpack, then you would realize, like, oh, my God, this is crazy.
01:01:59.000Yeah, it makes me realize why it's, in particular, just, like, comedy.
01:02:05.000It still is predominantly male, I think, still.
01:02:09.000Well, I think women have a really good shot at it if they're funny because there's not that many of them.
01:02:16.000But if they do decide to have a family, then it gets much more complicated.
01:02:24.000How are you going to tour and take care of the babies?
01:02:26.000One thing that I've seen people do that's kind of interesting is like male and female comics get together and they have a baby and then they decide like, okay, you go out this weekend, I'll go out that weekend.
01:04:31.000I know that there's a great thread that I retweeted the other day.
01:04:35.000A guy went in and was like, here's what's actually going on.
01:04:38.000And I know a lot of it- What did he say?
01:04:40.000Well, one of the biggest problems is the bottleneck is zoning.
01:04:44.000It has something to do with containers and they can't stack the containers.
01:04:48.000And I do think there's a trucking problem as well.
01:04:53.000Part of it being that they did that, you know, the whole PROACT thing, not PROACT, I guess it was the AB5, which we've talked about before when they, that affected truckers as independent contractors.
01:06:15.000Well, it affected you because of writing.
01:06:17.000Well, then they did, I think they did another carve out, but yeah, people couldn't hire me because I couldn't, 1099, then they would have had to put me, if you write a certain number of articles, it affected everybody.
01:06:30.000And hairdressers, people who really needed to be independent contractors, the problem I have with this push against independent contractors is And now PROACT, which is the federal version of this, which they keep trying to push through, is that people like to be independent contractors.
01:06:48.000They act like they're being forced into this agreement when many people like to be able to choose when they want to work or when they want to drive.
01:06:57.000So this was really brought about because of Uber and Lyft, and they were saying that they were abusing them and they needed to Put bring them on and Postmates and obviously many of these companies do take advantage of this situation and They do you know you will hear from an uber driver how much they're they're getting screwed Yeah,
01:07:16.000so I think there needs to be something but I don't think that the whole concept of uber is that you aren't an employee There's certainly room for independent operators in a host of different jobs and when you over-regulate like that When you think you're helping people out and you wind up hurting people,
01:07:42.000A lot of people I knew left California before the pandemic because of AB5. Single mothers, many people who were affected by it.
01:07:49.000It affected people who were working, people with disabilities who were able to be independent contractors.
01:07:55.000I mean, a lot of people have side gags for that reason.
01:07:58.000And now because they can save money for college for their kids or whatever, and they don't want to go work for eight hours and have to clock in.
01:08:08.000And it's something that's very infuriating to me.
01:08:54.000Because they're firing all these fucking cops.
01:08:57.000And he's saying, not only will I hire you, but I'll give you $5,000 to relocate to Florida.
01:09:03.000And I think he was being misrepresented because they were saying he was like, only the unvaccinated, but he was making the offer to anybody in law enforcement, a police officer, not just the unvaccinated ones.
01:09:41.000It's shocking actually how little information that you can get.
01:09:46.000But this one guy who just has a business went and rented a boat and talked to people for hours about what the problem was.
01:09:53.000And within hours of him doing this thread that went viral, they had relaxed the zoning laws in Long Beach To help with this bottleneck, which is part of the problem.
01:10:28.000It says, first off, the boat captain said we were the first company to ever rent his boat to tour the port to see how everything was working up close.
01:10:36.000His usual business is doing the memorial services at sea.
01:10:52.000I counted only seven that were even operating, and those...
01:10:57.000That were seemed to be going pretty slow.
01:11:00.000It seemed that everyone now agrees the bottleneck yard is yard space at the container terminals.
01:11:05.000The terminals are simply overflowing with containers, which means they no longer have space to take in new containers, either from ships or land.
01:11:54.000What's crazy is that Pete Buttigieg during this whole time is on paternity leave.
01:11:58.000And you just want to go, listen, man, I understand it's hard to raise a child, but isn't that supposed to be for the person who gave birth?
01:12:13.000But he was saying this negative feedback loop that is rapidly cycling out of control that if it continues, unabated will destroy the global economy.
01:12:21.000I'm like, that's a nice one to just slide in there.
01:12:24.000Yeah, so it's complicated, but I do know the trucking stuff has something to do with it, too, because there was already problems with truckers.
01:14:44.000Imagine if you have an employee, and this is your fucking CEO of your little company or whatever, and the wife has a baby, and the husband's like, I'm taking four months off.
01:14:55.000You're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:15:23.000If everybody should be in support of...
01:15:26.000A woman shouldn't have to lose her job if she has a baby.
01:15:29.000If you're going to be supportive of women having children and you want women to encourage women to have children, you have to give them some support in the aftermath of giving birth to a fucking baby.
01:16:15.000But what I'm saying is, if you're a person who is looking to hire someone for a job, and you're hiring a woman who is trying to get pregnant, And then you're going to have to pay her, but you still need the job done.
01:16:28.000But now you're paying her and she's not there.
01:16:31.000Unless this is some sort of a national program where our tax dollars go to subsidize.
01:17:40.000You know, so much of this is just a question of...
01:17:44.000It feels like we don't have the same social cohesion and family structures that we used to have where you would be living close to your family and family would help you take care of the baby and they come over and your mother-in-law and you had all this support and now people who are living in cities and working for these massive corporations and With massive corporations,
01:18:09.000When things get weird, it's like, okay, small business.
01:18:12.000Okay, but then what if someone has a significant role, like a really important role in like government?
01:18:19.000Or a really important role in something that's very important.
01:18:24.000I'm just thinking even from my own personal circumstance, if my right-hand woman, Maggie, who's like my co-producer on everything and works for me.
01:20:39.000You should understand that a woman's job of raising a child is a hugely significant job.
01:20:46.000And just because it doesn't have numbers in a bank account that correspond to each individual activity that you do doesn't mean it's not valuable.
01:20:58.000Rethink the way you look at it, but if you need to put numbers on it, why don't you figure out what you would have to pay for somebody to do every single thing that the mother is doing, from driving the kids around, which takes up a huge amount of their time, to all that stuff.
01:21:12.000But if you're a business owner, whose responsibility is that?
01:22:04.000I'm not talking about your husband specifically, but I think guys that take time off for paternity leave, I guarantee they get shit on.
01:22:12.000I don't think at Google they're getting shit on.
01:22:15.000Google is a communist-run empire of data collection.
01:22:18.000I don't know who pays for it, but I do know that I want to be supportive of the family.
01:22:24.000Google should hand out all of that money that they stole as freely as possible because they've been stealing money from people by snatching up their data.
01:22:33.000So you don't think people should get paternity leave?
01:22:54.000I don't know, but if I was an employer and I had a guy who worked for me, I had a guy who worked for me who wanted to take three months off because his wife gave birth, I'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about, Mike?
01:23:46.000So when someone in government, I mean, look, it's interesting because it starts this conversation.
01:23:52.000When someone in government who's a man who didn't give birth, and there's two of them, and they both are off work, and they get free money, or what happens?
01:24:03.000Are we paying for his paternity leave?
01:24:22.000It's an interesting conversation of who's responsible.
01:24:25.000Particularly if you're a small business.
01:24:27.000If you have someone who has a critical role in your company, and it's a man, and the man's wife gives birth, and then the man wants to take three months off and wants you to pay him, He'd be like, what?
01:25:32.000They're more concerned about the group.
01:25:34.000My friend in Italy was like, we don't have...
01:25:37.000I mean, I know there are Italians who are protesting, but she's like, for the most part, everyone's just like, I gotta do my part, and there's not this whole thing.
01:27:12.000First of all, I was thinking about this on my way over here.
01:27:15.000This is the second time I've been pregnant on your show.
01:27:17.000The first time I ever did your show, I was pregnant and didn't know it and it ended up being ectopic, which for people who don't know, it's like a suicide bomber in your body.
01:27:30.000It's basically a tubal or ovarian pregnancy, and it would have killed me like 100 years ago, and it still kills a lot of women.
01:27:39.000It's super dangerous, and it's like a baby that's like, if I'm not going to be born, I'm taking you with me.
01:27:57.000So you would lose an ovary or a fallopian tube, except now, and this is where I'm like, okay, big pharma, thanks, I guess.
01:28:08.000What mine was treated with, I found out early enough, it was like three weeks after, it was on my birthday, it was like three weeks after I was on your show, The very first time in 2019. And I kept getting a shooting pain and I was like, I think I have a fucking ectopic pregnancy.
01:28:31.000Yeah, so it's like a tubal or it can be in your fallopian tube or ovary.
01:28:35.000It's just like I was joking like my old ass ovaries with their like little walkers didn't like make it all the way down.
01:28:42.000And then it's like a little, yeah, then it can basically explode your ovary or fallopian tube when the baby, you know, they double every like frickin day.
01:29:24.000And it was really sad and tragic, you know, because they weren't sure.
01:29:27.000And then I had to get my blood drawn every two days to see if the levels were like going up or down.
01:29:32.000They're like, is this a failed pregnancy or a chemical pregnancy, which is where it doesn't really take, but you're still it'll still show up as pregnant.
01:29:40.000And there was a minute where we thought maybe we were having a baby and then the levels doubled again.
01:32:39.000They were like, we're shocked you're even getting a period.
01:32:42.000And this was after I got the J&J and I hadn't had a period in three months.
01:32:47.000And this is an issue that is apparently, according to my nurse, according to a good doctor friend of mine, the hormone levels of people in certain circumstances that get vaccinated get all wacky.
01:33:03.000Yeah, so to be fair, I don't know correlation or causation, because they had done my levels right after my ectopic, but they were also very wacky, and they're like, this could be just because the ectopic and your hormones are all weird, so come back in six months and we'll test you again,
01:33:18.000and then it was COVID, so we didn't do that.
01:33:21.000I got the shot, I went back, and they're like, you're in menopause, you can't have kids, we need to get you- So it could have been from the ectopic, it could have been from the J&J. Well, in 2019, when I got tested, it was definitely weird.
01:33:34.000And so then when I went back in 2021, recently, this was like in June when I went.
01:33:41.000And they're like, oh, you're in menopause.
01:33:46.000I was very upset, and I think you and I have talked about whether or not I wanted kids, but I was kind of like, so it's just a weird story.
01:33:54.000And that was only five months later, you're knocked up.
01:35:21.000But yes, you take like ubiquinol, which is good for cell development and it's supposed to help like egg strength.
01:35:29.000So maybe that restarted your hormones.
01:35:33.000Who fucking knows, but I started taking them, and then I was pregnant when we were having that conversation on the beach.
01:35:38.000I come back, go see my OB, who's no longer my OB, and I told her, I'm like, I haven't had a period in 40 days, because I got my period in between the 90 days.
01:35:49.000And she was like, that's just the menopause.
01:35:51.000We need to get you on birth control pills, because you're going to lose bone density, because you're a geriatric man.
01:36:27.000I mean, it is amazing how they treat you when you're my age in pregnancy because it's geriatric at 35. Really?
01:36:33.000Yeah, they consider you geriatric at 35. They don't really use that word anymore because it's fallen out of fashion, but I was joking with my OB. I'm like, I'm surprised you guys don't give me a fucking walker when I come in here.
01:36:48.000You know, the numbers for, like, downs, it's like when you look at all that stuff, it's like it goes from 1 in 1,000 when you're in your early 30s to, like, 1 in 43 at my age.
01:37:29.000And we were very like, okay, like I went in for that first ultrasound to find out that it was an ectopic because they have to look right away.
01:37:39.000And she's like, no, it's intrauterine.
01:38:01.000When I went in to talk to my OB and when I would go for my checkups, all the nurses, not the doctors, I'd be like, you know, I got my vaccine.
01:38:10.000They're like, oh, everyone's period's messed up from the vaccine.
01:38:19.000And what's crazy is that they just started studying how COVID affects women who are pregnant.
01:38:26.000Like, they didn't think to fucking do this when people were getting COVID and women were getting COVID and they were pregnant.
01:38:32.000So they really had no idea how the vaccine was going to affect a woman's menstruation, women who are pregnant, etc., And then you hear all these like stories online and a lot of it, the problem is that so much of it is suppressed and you're just,
01:40:29.000Like, I don't know what the actual reporting numbers are, but I do know people that I'm close to that have had horrible reactions, those reactions did not get reported.
01:40:40.000So what percentage of actual adverse events do get reported?
01:40:47.000It bothers me because for all the talk in our culture about informed consent, it's like you should be able to make an informed decision about this for yourself.
01:41:29.000But particularly a woman who's pregnant who might be skeptical when there's...
01:41:35.000There's a lot of unknowns, and I'm sorry, I know the mRNA has been around for 20 years, and I've heard every fucking article, every argument.
01:41:44.000It has been mass inoculated, and on top of that, there's not long-term data.
01:41:53.000There's something about, so the mandates came down for kids for California, and they did a poll in California, and only a third of people want to vaccinate their kids.
01:42:02.000I mean, this is not a popular mandate.
01:42:05.000I'm shocked it's that high because when you find out what's actually dangerous, like whether or not COVID is actually dangerous for children, it's not.
01:42:16.000And then I'm seeing what all my friends who have kids are going through because of all these insane, crazy, like...
01:42:24.000Quarantine policies that these schools have that are nonsensical.
01:42:28.000So one kid will get exposed in a class and then like only the three kids around that kid had to quarantine for two days and even if they had a negative test, they still had to stay out for two weeks.
01:42:40.000Okay, but here's why that's not crazy.
01:42:42.000The reason why that's not crazy is because if those kids go home and give it to their parents or give it to their grandma, and then the grandma gets sick, and then the grandma dies, or they give it to the teacher, and the teacher gives it to the spouse, and the spouse dies.
01:43:04.000Of this entire classroom, if one kid's exposed and comes back as positive, then only four kids are going to be quarantined, not the whole class.
01:43:57.000Yeah, it's definitely, I mean, if I, like you were saying, I was joking because my first trimester, all I wanted was like plant-based food.
01:44:45.000I was like, why is my child craving food, like, all the plant-based, the way they're all, like, pushing it and, like, you know, Great Reset?
01:44:54.000I was like, I'm going to be craving bugs soon.
01:44:56.000And then, like, two months in, I started craving Taco Bell, which I haven't had in a decade.
01:45:01.000And I was like, oh, my vaccine must be where I got off.
01:45:26.000No, they're not talking about these things.
01:45:28.000And it's a real problem because they want to push a narrative so badly that they don't understand that they're censoring dissenting thought.
01:45:35.000And they're censoring information that's counter to the narrative, whether it's accurate or not.
01:45:39.000And a lot of it turns out to be accurate.
01:46:23.000I mean, this is the whole piece I just wrote about lectures from limousine liberals where I was just raging because so many of the—being in California in particular, this is probably true more in blue states that were more locked down— There were so many of these mandates that hurt the people that we ostensibly care about.
01:46:44.000When you shut down the outdoor parks, that didn't hurt rich people with big backyards.
01:46:51.000That hurt people who lived in You know, apartments, and they didn't have access to these public spaces.
01:46:58.000When you, like Gavin Newsom's kids going to private school, while his frickin' gardeners probably, their kids probably weren't allowed to go to school.
01:47:07.000Like, there was such a disproportionate, it affected the poor the most.
01:47:14.000And that was infuriating for me to see.
01:47:17.000And then, and to have all these, like, frontline workers who worked through the whole pandemic.
01:48:24.000The data from Israel, which is the best data that we have, 2.5 million people, I believe they studied, found that the immunity that you get from a national infection, from having COVID and recovered, is 6 to 13 times better.
01:49:12.000So in the middle of a pandemic, when you're firing a large percentage of your healthcare workers, when you're firing a large percentage of your fire department, your police officers...
01:49:24.000Yeah, you have people in very niche, like the rescue jumpers, the guys who jump out of helicopters in the Coast Guard.
01:49:34.000They're saying there's a big piece, like 20% of them might not...
01:49:38.000This is not something everyone can do, and these guys are at peak health.
01:49:49.000They should, because, again, if you're not taking into account natural immunity, and, you know, you can't even search natural immunity on Instagram.
01:49:59.000I mean, on my, like, conspiratorial, like, it's because they want to make money, but it seems like even in Italy, I think the green pass accepts natural immunity for within six months or something.
01:50:38.000The idea that all of a sudden, during a pandemic, that this is the only time where the pharmaceutical companies don't have That they're not interested in making a shitload of money.
01:50:53.000That they're only interested in actually taking care of people and making sure this pandemic is over.
01:50:58.000And that they are completely altruistic.
01:51:01.000And that they're not thinking at all about money.
01:51:23.000Some kind of disorder or be diagnosed with something in order to have your insurance even pay for it.
01:51:28.000And so we're just handing out instead of being like, oh, maybe you're just anxious because like life can be anxiety provoking.
01:51:34.000You've got to be diagnosed with like generalized anxiety disorder or whatever in order to even Get treatment for it and then we're so quick to just medicate the symptom instead of really looking at a lot of the root causes.
01:51:49.000You've been like a dog with a bone on this in terms of talking about how there's been no conversation about a lot of the underlying things people can do to boost their health.
01:52:03.000So they don't get COVID or recover quickly from COVID. I mean, everybody gained weight during the pandemic.
01:52:33.000Yeah, in something like six or seven weeks, he lost all the weight.
01:52:37.000I mean, I think they were doing all the numbers, and I don't know if these are the accurate things, but it was like the average millennial, it varied by generation.
01:52:47.000I think Gen X was like 25, millennials were like 40 pounds, average gained 40 pounds.
01:54:05.000It's so sad because these people who are just sloppy and they don't like the fact that she got her shit together and changed her diet and really started getting after it and worked out like a beast.
01:54:16.000And she did it because, like she said, I did this because when I was working out I found that I didn't feel anxiety.
01:54:24.000And I always tell my friends who are anxious, I'm like, move your fucking body.
01:54:28.000Sometimes it's just energy that needs to go somewhere.
01:56:16.000I still thought she was beautiful when she was overweight.
01:56:19.000Well, she has amazing facial structure.
01:56:21.000So that's what I don't want, like we were talking about earlier, shame is a hard thing to get over, and I know a lot of people who struggle with their weight, and I don't want them to feel like they're any less beautiful because they are struggling with their weight.
01:56:39.000That's such a woman perspective, because there's not a man alive that goes, these guys out here that are fat, I don't want them feeling bad with their big bellies.
01:56:46.000I want them to know they're fucking handsome as shit.
01:56:48.000But I know what women who have this struggle go through.
01:57:35.000I think it's easier in the male culture to be like, get your shit together, fat ass, and get out there and work out and stop eating so many donuts.
02:00:28.000Yeah, it's like the Braves thing that they do.
02:00:34.000Look at all those people with their phones out with the lights on.
02:00:37.000I mean, it's hard to see when we're looking at it through this browser versus through my phone, but when you look at it through the phone, you get the full image of how fucking big his crowd is.
02:03:44.000I just slut-shamed myself, but it came about because this young woman I was waiting tables with, she's like, Bridget, have you ever regret sleeping with a man?
02:04:19.000You know, I think that it's hard to thread without...
02:04:22.000If I was to be totally honest, I think it's that I felt like I had been lied to by the culture.
02:04:30.000Like, the culture was giving me this message and gives a lot...
02:04:33.000I mean, this is a message that I see a lot of young women get, but they're getting it in even this weirder version than the one that I grew up with, which was like, I don't think you need to have kids to be like...
02:06:25.000And she was like, having a kid, she said she found so much meaning.
02:06:29.000And she's like, I wish I had known this sooner because so much of the stuff I was searching for, I've found so much healing in having a child.
02:06:40.000And she was, she and I were having this conversation.
02:06:43.000I'm like, it's, you know, I've been the woman who didn't have a kid.
02:06:46.000And I've heard a lot of, it comes a lot from like, hardcore kind of reactionary right wing media, particularly where it's like, you're not valuable as a woman unless you have a child.
02:06:57.000And I am very oppositionally defiant to that.
02:07:02.000Rhetoric, because I know a lot of women who have tried to have children and couldn't, and I don't think it's fair to put that messaging out there.
02:07:14.000You can have a wonderful life without children.
02:07:17.000You can have meaning all kinds of ways without children, but I do think that in the overcorrection from those 1950s years, there was this push to...
02:08:05.000They're scaring people out of having children.
02:08:07.000I'm reading these real articles about people who are...
02:08:10.000And I will tell any women listening, like, what I really struggled with around my 40th birthday was that I had internalized so much of this and I... I lied to myself.
02:08:24.000I lied to myself for many, many years that I didn't want to have kids.
02:08:39.000And when I hit 40 and that window started closing and I met a man, I also was, I didn't want to have a kid just for the sake of having a kid, but then once I met a man, I wanted a family.
02:08:50.000And once I was with this person, I felt like, you know, people told me to freeze my eggs, I didn't.
02:08:58.000And I really had to confront that lie that I told myself because once the option was more off the table and wasn't even a possibility, or so I thought, I really was faced with how much deception I Yeah.
02:09:40.000Needle to thread because so much of the shame around my sexuality, not feeling like I deserved it, not feeling like I deserved to have a...
02:09:47.000Even when I first got with this pregnancy, I'm still very like...
02:09:58.000Like you say, it's crazy, but it is those things are...
02:10:03.000I've internalized so much not positive...
02:10:10.000Feelings and ideas about motherhood or having a child and I'm not sure where because I mean my mom had five kids and loved being a mom so it certainly wasn't coming from like my my all my siblings have kids well it's probably part of living a reckless and independent life and being in a city I was the only one of my siblings who was like in a city And just also being,
02:10:33.000when I was really grinding in comedy, I just was like, these two things aren't really compatible unless you have a lot of help and money and you're successful.
02:10:42.000And I felt like I had to make a choice.
02:10:47.000And in some respects I did, but I don't think that, I don't know that I made that choice.
02:11:19.000For men who waste a woman's, like, fertility years and don't, and know that they don't want kids or that they're not ready to marry them or whatever and they're in their, you know, early 30s, mid 30s and they're just, like,
02:12:02.000No, I just hear this a lot from women where they're in these relationships and the guy is kind of like, well, I don't know if I want to get married.
02:12:09.000And then they end up breaking up and it's like there's years that they could have been out there.
02:12:15.000Yeah, but it might not also just been that.
02:12:17.000It might also been the relationship sucked.
02:12:20.000It might have also been they were trying to make sure that this was the right person that they wanted to have a kid with.
02:12:24.000Because some relationships go fucking sideways.
02:12:28.000And if you have a kid with a girl and then you're connected to her forever and it goes sideways, now she's fucking crazy and she wants money from you all the time and she's shaming you and angry at you.
02:12:37.000Men are scared of that kind of commitment because it's a commitment that attaches you to someone for the rest of your life.
02:12:42.000And if you get lucky and you find a good person, it's great.
02:13:39.000If you were with the wrong husband or the wrong wife, you are a different fucking person than you are with the right person.
02:13:47.000You know, like, how many times have you met a girl and she's like, single and single, I'm never gonna get married, fuck that, and then she meets the right guy, boom, she's married.
02:14:04.000And also, like, how many people are, like, if you're looking for If you're looking for six characteristics and they have four, and you're like, well, he's going to get his shit together and get a job eventually.
02:14:17.000Well, he's going to do this, but he never does.
02:14:19.000I know people that are involved in relationships and they're not totally happy, but they're not totally unhappy.
02:14:51.000Because I still get tons of emails about this stuff from people from working for Playboy.
02:14:55.000And I love them because I think like the human relationships are fascinating and particularly this kind of stuff where a man will be, a man and a woman will be in a relationship and the sex life and intimacy just goes away.
02:15:10.000But, you know, they have kids and a house and they have all of these things and there's still this thing that's missing or people are together and they're like, well, it's good enough.
02:21:18.000You know what it reminds me of, though?
02:21:20.000Tony Robbins, who I actually fucking love.
02:21:24.000He did this great talk one time about how he was learning how to race car drive.
02:21:30.000And the teacher, because why not when you're Tony Robbins, and the teacher was telling him not to, you know, it's like that idea of, like, don't focus on what you might crash into, focus on coming out of, focus on where you're going.
02:21:44.000Like, look towards where you're going.
02:22:54.000My therapist is a big fan of, not like the secret, but she's a big fan of mantras, which I've never been a huge fan of.
02:23:01.000Although I will admit, reluctantly, that in this early first trimester, because I had so much fear and anxiety, and I'm like a data person, so I was reading all the data, and I'm like, you're going through all these as a geriatric.
02:23:16.000They put you through like every single screening.
02:24:44.000I'm such a healthy, whenever they do my blood panel, they're like, you're, my doctor said, she's like, you are in perfect health when I get my, you know, like my normal stuff.
02:27:00.000When I go back to like my hometown and it's a resort town and now it's booming with tech money and it's really weird and it's created a whole dichotomy that was always latently there but now it's even worse.
02:27:39.000But now it feels, when I went home, I was like, whoa, this feels a lot like it must have felt, because it was the original playground of the rich.
02:27:48.000It's where the Vanderbilts had their mansion and the Astors.
02:30:05.000I was talking to the New York Times reporter who was talking about this story.
02:30:09.000I'm like, it's not all white in policy, but I've never seen a black person there.
02:30:15.000You know, it's like, it's not all white.
02:30:18.000It's not anywhere that you can't join, but it's definitely like, the last time I went there just because somebody invited me to lunch there one time when I was home a couple years ago, and I was like, holy shit, coming from L.A., which is diverse and anywhere, I was like,
02:30:34.000That's the whitest place I've been in so long.
02:30:36.000Even the staff was white, like European.
02:31:28.000I have a good friend and there was like this whole debate because Larry Ellison was going to buy this property and he was going to like...
02:31:38.000All the old money people got together and they were gonna do something like sell all their properties below so that his view would be destroyed basically and his value would go down.
02:31:50.000And they were like, if you're gonna act like new money, we're gonna treat you like new money, Larry.
02:31:56.000I don't know what you're saying by sell all his properties below.
02:31:59.000So they all had properties in this area.
02:32:01.000He was going to buy a property, and they didn't want him because he was going to build something huge and chop down the trees and do all this stuff.
02:32:11.000And they were like, we should sell all of our properties so that they get developed, and it ruins his land value, basically.
02:33:34.000It's interesting, though, because it does feel like the wealth disparity in America right now is very similar to this period in American history, when there was just so much...
02:33:48.000So much wealth and so much of a disparity between the rich and the poor.
02:37:56.000Those are all the, like, the robber barons.
02:37:59.000You know, that was like the Vanderbilts and the Astors and the guys who built the railroads and made all, like, all of those people had houses over there.
02:38:31.000Look, I'm the first person to say that I'd be more than happy to give up more money in taxes if I really thought that it would positively affect communities, if I really thought we could cure some of these deeply impoverished communities that are ridden with crime and violence and drug abuse.
02:38:48.000If there was a way to do that, and the way to do that is to pay more money in taxes, That's not it, though.
02:38:53.000It's what you talk about a lot, and it's what my friend Carol Roth has written about and is just constantly on.
02:39:01.000The great consolidation, as she called it, in an essay that I think she put out today, where we need to remove the barriers for people to take risks and start small businesses.
02:39:33.000And all of that wealth being transferred up into the centralization that's occurring, like why Walmart was open and your small local place wasn't, why you could go, she uses the example in her article,
02:39:48.000why you could go get your dog's nails trimmed at PetSmart, but you couldn't go to your local hair salon.
02:39:54.000How it crushed all of these small businesses, but government, particularly the government we have now, doesn't necessarily like Small businesses because they're decentralized.
02:40:45.000So an unrealized gain would be if you put $100 in a Tesla and it went up to $1,000 and your $100 turned into $1,000, taxing you on the $900 that is existing in an account you don't actually have because you haven't made that money until you take it.
02:41:49.000I think that that's the answer, though, is to create a robust middle class.
02:41:58.000Instead of creating this massive welfare class, That is dependent on Big Daddy for everything, Big Daddy government, which is driving this inequality.
02:42:09.000You look at how much the, you know, these tech corporations while they're, the Fed is pumping money into the markets and meanwhile, like cannibalizing Main Street the whole time.
02:42:22.000And this process has been going on, but it just was exacerbated.
02:42:25.000And so that's not going to help with the inequality.
02:42:28.000What happened with small businesses and restaurants and various places that got forced into closing down while other places were open is nothing short of catastrophic.
02:42:40.000It's another thing that makes my blood boil.
02:42:43.000It makes me sick too because I know a lot of people who have lost businesses.
02:42:46.000We were hanging out with Tony Hinchcliffe's dad a couple weeks ago in Pittsburgh.
02:42:51.000His dad had a restaurant that he ran for 30 years in Youngstown and now it's gone.
02:42:57.000It's gone because they made them close it down during the pandemic.
02:43:00.000Yeah, so many small businesses just couldn't, they couldn't survive.
02:44:38.000That was one of my questions for you, is what gives you hope?
02:44:41.000Because I've heard a lot of your recent episodes, and it seems like we can talk about how crazy it is and know it is, and I don't know what you or I could do about anything, really, other than run our mouths.
02:44:54.000I think running our mouths actually does help.
02:45:28.000The victims, whether it's small businesses or whether it's children or whatever I think that's going to go wrong while they just look to extract money, right?
02:46:46.000And I tell everyone who's not too big to fail, because I think there are certain people who, they don't necessarily have to worry about the tech censorship as much, although they did, like, do a hit job on our past president.
02:48:21.000I at least know on Rumble that none of that stuff's gonna happen because I'm talking about how boys and girls are different and I'm against the VAX ports.
02:48:30.000When I had that COVID thing happen, there was an immediate drop-off on the number of people that I got every day on Instagram.
02:48:58.000And you can say that's because people think you suck now.
02:49:00.000But I... I have a feeling it's more complicated than that, because that whole Sanjay Gupta thing was pretty positive for me overall, in terms of the way the general public related to what I was saying versus what he was saying, in terms of CNN lying and catching them lying.
02:49:53.000You know, which is interesting because people demonize Project Veritas, right?
02:49:56.000But we know because of their work, because of their conversations that they've had, where they recorded these conversations that people didn't know, where they've talked about putting people on these lists.
02:50:12.000Making sure that, and you know, they just admitted recently, was it Facebook that admitted recently that conservative ideas and that conservative people get treated differently?
02:50:23.000Do you know, fucking, there was a thing on CNN where that Brian Stelter guy was actually saying, we should start treating Republicans differently than we treat Democrats.
02:50:33.000Yeah, this, the othering that's been going on is really unsettling and disturbing to me.
02:50:39.000And it's been going on since Trump, you know, in that...
02:50:42.000The people, many of us have been talking about the self-censorship that's been going on.
02:50:47.000This process of keeping your mouth shut and just going along has been going on for some time, but now it's extended to like masks and vaccines.
02:50:56.000And I think that You will push people to a point where they're like, fuck this.
02:51:01.000I know so many people right now who are having to choose between going to work or getting the vaccine.
02:51:08.000And some of them are lucky enough to be in a position to make that decision.
02:51:12.000If you're not in a position to make that decision, it's not really a choice.
02:51:16.000They try and make it like, oh, it's voluntary.
02:51:20.000This was something that was lost during the pandemic with wealthy people that I experienced, where a lot of people are like, we need the lockdowns.
02:51:26.000And I'm like, you have money, you fuck.
02:51:29.000You don't have a business that's rotting away that you work for for 30 years like Tony's dad, where you're fucked.
02:52:24.000I'm grateful for podcasts because I do think...
02:52:27.000I joke like podcasts are going to save the world.
02:52:29.000And I do think that these long-form conversations have exploded in popularity in this time when everything is...
02:52:36.000It's crazily polarized and people are very confused.
02:52:39.000Like you said, when you are openly lying about what they said about you, then catching them in the lie and then doubling down on the lie one or two more times, you're losing credibility and we have a massive credibility crisis with all of our institutions and people then are much more likely to fall into conspiracy theories and Exactly.
02:53:06.000And they think the solution to that is to censor those conspiracy theories.
02:53:09.000And it makes them even more conspiratorial.
02:53:11.000As long as places like Rumble exist, I think they're going to grow.
02:53:27.000I think this is one of those things where they've fucked up enough, where the grip has slipped to the point where enough people are going to...
02:53:37.000First of all, we'll keep saying the name Rumble.
02:53:54.000What's happened with us, but our growth has been...
02:53:56.000We'll probably have 50,000 subscribers on frickin' Rumble before we do on YouTube, and I've been there for two years, and I'm not kidding you, it's like all of our numbers just flatlined, and every week they go down.
02:54:26.000Because it's by, without even saying it, without being negative about trans people, by saying we need to support the idea that it's okay to say women get pregnant and women give birth and women breastfeed.
02:55:18.000Explain what you're talking about, though.
02:55:20.000In California in particular, but you're seeing this in the UK as well, you can just self-identify as a woman and get transferred into a female prison.
02:55:47.000You don't need any, you used to have to need, like, replacement therapy, you'd need psychology, you would have to be on medications, and I just think that that is insane, and now you're hearing about women being raped,
02:56:03.000and in the UK there was that recent thing that they came out and said you'd get a harsher, you'd get extended sentence if you misgender a woman in your prison.
02:57:07.000And she was talking about how in California we're in kind of a precarious moment because right now we at least have...
02:57:16.000Data about who is self-identifying as a woman and being transferred into a woman's prison.
02:57:22.000But once it gets to a point where they can just have self-identify on an ID, we won't we'll lose the ability to even track who's going into these women's prisons and is a biological male.
02:57:36.000So it's just it seems like it's And again, this is a population that people are ostensibly like, we need to, you know, the women in prisons are off, and they are.
02:57:50.000And this is the population we're supposed to be caring about and worrying about, and where is the concern and the worry?
02:57:57.000And I do think, like, that whole WeSpa thing where they were like, oh, this is just a scam, and then you find out the guy's a frickin' registered sex offender and has another case pending, or the woman.
02:59:07.000It's like a stepping stone to being transhuman.
02:59:10.000And so you can basically kind of get people used to the idea of switching out body parts and putting microchips and getting a new arm that's biomechanical so that you can go live on other planets and also this is just the conspiracy.
03:02:25.000And there's also people that have already transitioned that are encouraging other people to do so as well.
03:02:33.000There's people that feel like it was a good thing for them, want other people to do it, and so they're more active in getting people to do it.
03:02:43.000I wish that there was a way you could actually become a woman, like with a pill.
03:03:24.000If I was 13 and online and didn't have this parental supervision and I was reaching out into the void of the internet and didn't really like being a woman because I was going through puberty and felt uncomfortable and also was just kind of jealous because the boys seemed to have more fun, I probably would have been.
03:03:59.000But when I look at the archetypal alien, right, they have the giant heads and then they have these bodies that don't have any muscle tone to them or sexual organs.
03:04:09.000I think what aliens are, when we look at those iconic images, like from Close Encounters of the Third Kind, that archetypal alien, I think what we're seeing is what our future is.
03:04:54.000And I think that as we get weaker and softer and then we have more ability to manipulate our environment through technology, we're going to have less and less need for muscle.
03:05:06.000And I think that as we become more and more integrated with technology, like physically integrated, where technology and human beings have a symbiotic relationship that's inseparable.
03:05:20.000Like we will develop technologies that allow humans and technology to integrate because the only other option is artificial life.
03:05:30.000Because if we create artificial technology or artificial intelligence, if we create, and it's not even artificial life, but it would be like silicon-based, electrical-based life.
03:06:42.000Yeah, I think we're going to realize that hormones in general and the desire to reproduce sexually in general causes so many problems and so much...
03:06:52.000So much of what we look at is inevitable, like tribal warfare, controlling resources, like the ego, all these different things are connected to biological life.
03:07:06.000It's connected to this need to breed, this need to be dominant over the other people.
03:08:36.000Also, the thing with Dr. Shanna Swan, where she was talking about phthalates and how phthalates are literally causing...
03:08:45.000Phthalates, which are chemicals that are being ingested into the human body inadvertently through plastics and leaking through different pesticides and different things, are causing our sex organs to shrink.
03:09:00.000It's causing sperm counts to drop by over 50%, somewhere around 50%, I'm not saying over, but between the invention of petrochemical products and the use of them in our society to now, sperm counts have dropped 50%.
03:09:17.000And they're directly coincided with the increase in the exposure to phthalates.
03:09:21.000And these phthalates, it's spelled with a P, but it's the, like phthalates, but it's These phthalates cause the shrinking of your taint, which is apparently in baby mammals the best way to indicate male or female.
03:10:24.000But it's really scary, because we've put these things out into the world, and people are ingesting them inadvertently through leakage, but they didn't know about the real damage until...
03:10:36.000Do you remember from the podcast, Jamie?
03:10:40.0002004. It was like 2011 or 2012 where they started figuring out, like, oh my God, these phthalates that they can exhibit these changes in mammals.
03:10:49.000They can study these changes in mammals where they introduce phthalates into their diet and they show their taints shrinking and their penises shrinking and then also miscarriages rise, fertility drops radically, that these are observable in mammals and now we're seeing the same trends statistically in human beings.
03:11:15.000So even the evolution, as you kind of mention it to, like, let's say aliens and genderlessness and no need to procreate, is that something that's good?
03:11:55.000But at that point, you probably wouldn't even know what you're missing.
03:11:59.000Well, I think what's going to happen is there's going to be something that's much more attractive, whether it's some sort of a technological thing.
03:12:05.000There's going to be something that they can introduce into the human body that makes it obsolete.
03:12:12.000So the feelings that you get, whatever good feelings you get, like when a man or a woman are attracted to each other, it'll be far better than that, and you don't have to worry about all the messiness of fucking.
03:12:34.000So this is like, we're going to have to all bite the bullet and get our organs removed because we don't need them and we're going to eliminate all sex and we're going to reproduce through this machine that we've all, and everybody has to have this machine in your house and you're allowed to have one baby.
03:12:50.000So it would just make evolutionary sense, even if it's not logical.
03:13:04.000We're all going to get our organs removed, and we're all going to decide that this is the way we reproduce, and the government's going to dictate how many people- This is like the organ removal mandate coming down the pipe.
03:15:07.000I don't know if you have insurance or not in Texas, but in Texas they have them for free.
03:15:12.000That's another Fauci thing, and then we need to Google this to make sure this is true, but my doctor friend told me that Fauci is attempting to limit the availability of monoclonal antibodies because through his words, my friend's words, not mine,
03:15:28.000not Fauci's, That they are trying to discourage this as an option for unvaccinated people because it's so effective.
03:15:35.000Because they want people to just get vaccinated.
03:15:38.000Well, that article that I sent you from CNN today was him being like, I've been a big proponent of these and I don't know what the problem is and why you can't find them.
03:15:48.000Well, this is also the guy that told you he wasn't involved in gain-of-function research and also the guy who didn't bother to tell everybody they were torturing puppies.
03:15:56.000Yeah, so that's just what I wonder, because, you know, as we know, our health insurance is fucked, and I think that I was just curious when I was seeing, like, when you threw the kitchen sink at it, I was like, well, would I be able to afford that or get that treatment?
03:16:13.000Well, all the other stuff is not expensive.
03:19:25.000People who have been raging against this have been saying is allow people this space to have questions and not delete their video off YouTube if they do.
03:20:01.000I mean, but it's crazy because they're having conversations with evolutionary biologists and virologists and vaccine specialists and We can't take away the ability to be skeptical and ask questions.
03:20:46.000There's so much anxiety in the air, and most people are cowards.
03:20:49.000And in the face of cowardice, in the face of fear, a lot of times people just conform.
03:20:53.000And they get angry when other people don't conform along with them.
03:20:56.000And if they can find some sort of a rationale for shaming you or belittling you because you don't also conform...
03:21:03.000Even if it denies the existence of all sorts of evidence to the contrary, even if it flies in the face of a narrative that has existed forever, which is, don't trust pharmaceutical companies because they use people at goddamn ATM machines, because they just extract money from you and sell you medications that you don't necessarily need.
03:21:19.000And they also work with politicians to make sure these things are available.
03:21:24.000And they also have a revolving door with the FDA where they take people who used to work for the FDA and then they put them into fucking nice cushy jobs at these pharmaceutical companies.
03:21:34.000I was joking about how I chose the brand that got sued for the baby powder.
03:21:45.000Dave Chappelle has a funny joke about it too.
03:21:52.000Yeah, I just, it's a very strange time and I wonder how much of it is people are, yes, people can be cowards, but how much of it is also just they're being forced into an impossible choice, i.e.
03:22:28.000And then this is a strange colliding of ideas.
03:22:34.000Because you have at the same time people that are being forced to make these choices in order to keep their jobs while we're exposing lies about these people that are pushing this in the first place.
03:22:48.000As this house of cards is falling, they're getting more and more aggressive.
03:22:53.000I know about pushing these narratives instead of like slowing down and and instead of like exploring treatments and instead of like having a real open conversation about the risk versus reward of using these vaccines on children instead of like looking at like hey this myocarditis that you say is mild What's the data?
03:23:13.000Show me what's the data on people recovering from this.
03:23:16.000What's the data on these young boys that are more prone to myocarditis because of these vaccines, particularly the Moderna vaccine, which, by the way, they're pulling in many of these countries for people under 30. Outside the U.S., there's other countries that are saying,
03:24:15.000So the crazies are watching this channel.
03:24:18.000Well, the anxiety-ridden people are watching CNN. The liberals, for whatever reason, first of all, I think there's probably a direct correlation between the lack of guns in the household and them being anxiety-ridden.
03:24:55.000I've had people talk to me about how to get bullets.
03:24:57.000It's so weird, too, because I think a lot about the flight people, all the flight attendants, the pilots.
03:25:03.000They were flying through the whole pandemic.
03:25:06.000I went to freaking South Africa in February in the middle of the South African strain, which they're not allowed to call those things anymore.
03:28:14.000I'm mentally preparing myself for Trump running and maybe winning only because I worry about the mental health of everyone around me in the event that that happens.
03:28:30.000Here's how he could lose if like Ron DeSantis got together with Greg Abbott And they created a Republican Party of people that ran states in a way that kept businesses open.
03:28:45.000And everybody wants a shit on Florida, including people from, like, Billy Corbin's running in here, running all these numbers about people in Florida.
03:28:51.000Like, yeah, a lot of people in Florida died from the virus.
03:29:15.000But I think people that have lost their businesses, people that have taken a big hit, those people do look at these people that are not forcing mandates, won't enforce them, and then did allow these things to stay open.
03:29:26.000If they can get those two guys together...
03:29:29.000They might be able to pull it off and defeat Trump.
03:29:30.000Yeah, but do you think those two are going to take the risk of running against Trump in a primary and alienating their entire base?
03:29:40.000I don't know if they would be alienating their entire base.
03:30:23.000So we started a sub stack because I want to start posting a lot of these letters with people's permission and my husband and I are starting a podcast and it's fascinating.
03:30:33.000I want to reach out to all the people who said they were voting for Biden And it was all people, people who came from the right to the center, people who, I mean, thousands of emails right before the election.
03:30:44.000Tim Pool actually was like talking all about this on his show right before because it was why I really, and I'm sure a lot of it is confirmation bias, but it was really why I thought Trump was going to win because so many people were red-pilled.
03:30:56.000I think it is confirmation bias because there's so many people that just did not want him in the office anymore.
03:31:15.000I mean, I always said the only person who could beat Trump is Trump.
03:31:17.000And I think that's actually what happened.
03:31:19.000Like, he just could not get out of his own way long enough.
03:31:22.000How is that true, though, if Biden beat him?
03:31:25.000I mean, I think, but I think if he had been able to get out of his own way long enough and like you said, be less of the kind of narcissistic personality that he is, he might have been able to win.
03:31:39.000I think what's gonna make him win is Biden as a president.
03:31:43.000I think Biden being a president where, you know, we're not talking about Biden from 1988. We're talking about Biden from 2021 and he's got problems.
03:31:52.000And it's like, we're all going to have those fucking problems when we're 78 years old.
03:31:55.000Well, I do think the problems people are experiencing now in America compared to what they were experiencing with Trump, which were maybe more psychological, are a lot more real.
03:32:25.000And he got the vaccine after he was sick.
03:32:28.000So he got COVID, got through it, and then got vaccinated on top of that.
03:32:32.000Look, I think that if someone can come along and offer real, legitimate solutions to the problems that we're facing that aren't getting any better.
03:32:43.000Did you see that fucking, the pile of people that came through the border?
03:33:14.000They're concerned that their dollar isn't going as far.
03:33:17.000I had a trucker on my podcast and I said, what's the big, the conversation we're having, the people who are having conversations, and the people who are kind of on the ground, what's the stuff that's missing?