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00:00:32.000It was a 170 plus pound cat, like big, big cat.
00:00:36.000I've never seen one there, but they're there.
00:00:38.000I've only seen a little one, like a 60, 70 pound one running across the street in Santa Barbara, and then one in Colorado I saw in the woods, like a glimpse, quick glimpse.
00:00:49.000It might have even been a bobcat, honestly.
00:02:24.000Well, I remember that video, this one video of you in Alberta with that one bear that you shot, and as it runs, like, after the arrow hits it, it runs.
00:02:34.000You're like, whoa, I did not know they could run that fast.
00:02:38.000That was seven yards, and it closed that distance.
00:03:34.000No, it's pretty cool because I have these two coolers at work in the lunchroom, and I just take meat in there and fill up those coolers and say, you know, free meat.
00:03:48.000And people love it there because there's a lot of people who don't hunt, you know, have no interest in hunting, but they love eating elk and different things.
00:05:19.000I feel so lucky to have that purpose because there's all sorts of advantages to working out and being in shape and being capable and healthy and everything else, but when you have a purpose, like I have a purpose and other people have different purposes,
00:05:37.000but if I see people in the gym, like guys in the gym and they're just training, I feel not bad or I don't really know how I feel, but Because if the goal is just to be big, it just is not the same as having a purpose.
00:12:18.000I get that he would want to do that for the money, but if an MMA fighter wants to fight Canelo, really they should say, come over to MMA, bitch.
00:12:28.000Straight boxing against Canelo, it's tough.
00:12:34.000He's fighting Caleb Plant, which is one of the more interesting fights that's available for Canelo, other than the Triple G rematch, the rubber match with Triple G. I think this Caleb Plant character is slick.
00:12:50.000I mean, for sure, Canelo's the favorite, because if you look at his resume, Canelo has a much better resume in terms of the guys he's beaten.
00:13:00.000Because Caleb Plant is super skillful, and he's a legit world champion, but he has not faced the level of opposition that Canelo has faced.
00:13:12.000Doesn't mean he can't win, but Billy Joe Saunders also looked like a world beater before he fought Canelo, and then Canelo crushed his face.
00:14:05.000So they have to go in and they put all these plates...
00:14:09.000Underneath where the eyeball sits and then on the outside on the upper left side of the eyeball that's cracked the lower sides cracked and then look how the cheekbones cracked all the way down to the upper jaw and Then the upper jaw on the where the hinges is cracked I mean his whole face got fucking caved in God and that's what those big boxing gloves crazy How amazing is that?
00:15:19.000Usually those big punchers they kind of wade in and they throw bombs and they're concentrating so hard on connecting with a big shot that they don't have like the sort of defensive skills that like a Floyd Mayweather has.
00:15:33.000Who's the best defensive fighter ever in my opinion.
00:15:36.000But when he fought Floyd, I think he had such a hard time hitting Floyd that he realized, like, oh, I gotta develop these kind of skills.
00:15:44.000Then if you see Canelo, like when he fought Danny Jacobs, and he's fought in the second fight with Triple G, too, like, he developed these kind of defensive skills that he never had before.
00:17:03.000I think at the championship level, like the true champions, and I think Kamaru is like a champion of champions.
00:17:09.000I think he's in this all-time great category.
00:17:13.000Like, let's imagine this fight is not taking place right now.
00:17:17.000And you're not comparing him with Colby.
00:17:19.000You just look at what he's done so far and his skill level, I think you got a real argument that he is right now the best pound-for-pound fighter in the sport.
00:17:28.000If you look at what his accomplishments are.
00:17:30.000One loss ever in his entire mixed martial arts career has run through everyone in his division.
00:17:36.000Including winning the title over a dominant Tyron Woodley.
00:18:05.000He's a real argument that he's the best guy in the sport.
00:18:07.000But if you wanted to see him challenged, you would want a guy who's got killer wrestling, that's Colby, amazing gas tank, that's Colby, unstoppable mentality, that's Colby.
00:18:19.000And a guy who's been in there with him and knows what adjustments to make.
00:18:47.000You call him a journeyman, and you know, that fucks with a guy's head.
00:18:51.000Like, the difference in the accomplishments of the two are very different.
00:18:54.000Like, Masvidal obviously has that giant Ben Askren knockout, and he beat up Nate Diaz in that fight, and Masvidal's a bad motherfucker, and a very clever fighter.
00:19:04.000He's one of my favorite guys to watch fight, because he's so intelligent.
00:19:07.000But Usman just demolished him in that second fight.
00:21:25.000It seemed like, I mean, I don't know, it seemed like there was a bunch of drama down there, you know, because I think Poirier's down there and...
00:21:33.000It seemed like he said that, or from what I'm seeing on interviews, you know, there was drama going into training and he just wanted to get away from that.
00:23:54.000If he decided, if he fought, let's say, whatever happens with his career, but five years from now, if he decides to go to pro wrestling, My God, will that guy have a fucking career over there?
00:24:43.000We were there right after Trump got elected, and Cam and I went to the gym, and we were leaving the gym, and as we were leaving the gym, apparently a fucking protest had broken out, and we were like, oh, Jesus, we've got to walk through this.
00:24:57.000And so we had to walk through this protest, and I'll never forget, like...
00:25:03.000These virtue signaling people screaming and chanting.
00:26:36.000What I said is I would vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden because Biden is in a process of obvious decay.
00:26:42.000And if you fucking people can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
00:26:45.000You're all a bunch of partisan weirdos who won't look at things for what they really are because if you say it, then people will get mad at you.
00:26:52.000I'm not worried about saying things that people are going to get mad at.
00:26:55.000So I'm just going to tell you what's going on.
00:32:01.000And if their side wins, then they feel like they've got to hold on to this to fight off those other people on the other side, because those people are bad.
00:32:08.000Here's what freaked me out, and it didn't seem to bother a lot of people.
00:32:11.000The Biden administration blocked the release of the JFK papers.
00:32:19.000JFK was shot in 1963. How weird is that?
00:32:22.000They're like, nope, people are still alive.
00:32:25.000Some people that would be fucked are still alive.
00:32:28.000That tells me The government killed Kennedy.
00:33:01.000It's crazy that they could even justify that.
00:33:03.000That someone could keep historical information that's relevant to our understanding of how the country really functioned in 1963. They keep that from us because it must be relevant to how the country still functions today.
00:34:33.000He was a creep during the Bush administration.
00:34:35.000I remember, like, listening to him talk on TV, and then when I found out that he was a part of the Warren Commission that actually came up with the single bullet there, I was like, oh!
00:36:28.000I've spent so much time reading books on the JFK assassination.
00:36:32.000But one of the reasons why they had to come up with this theory that this one bullet did so much damage is they had to account for three gunshots.
00:36:41.000And once they found out that a bullet had hit an underpass and it had chipped the curbstone and ricocheted up and hit this guy.
00:37:10.000It went into Connolly, threw his wrist, and I believe it wound up in his thigh.
00:37:14.000Yeah, this is how they think the bullet went.
00:37:18.000And people say, no, no, you have to take into account that Kennedy was in an elevated position.
00:37:24.000Listen, bullets do wacky things when they go into animals.
00:37:28.000And I was talking to a guy once that told me, In the war that they shot a guy in the head and the bullet came out of his eye going forward.
00:37:39.000Like it ricocheted off the back of his skull.
00:42:59.000We're in a weird time in this country, man, because there's so much censorship and these corporate entities that control these tech companies, right?
00:43:09.000These tech companies control a giant part of the discussion in this country.
00:43:16.000Because if you try to say certain things on YouTube, you will get censored.
00:43:43.000They've removed Senate testimony by doctors telling congressmen, telling important people in government how medications work, how diseases work.
00:44:11.000And then when you realize that these people are all in cahoots.
00:44:16.000They're all in cahoots with the Democratic Party.
00:44:18.000They all get their fucking talking points and what's legal and not legal to talk about.
00:44:23.000And then it goes to mainstream media, to CNN. But what they don't understand is by doing this, they're just making people understand that the hustle is real.
00:45:19.000They should report on all these soccer players that are having fucking heart attacks.
00:45:22.000They should report on all these different things.
00:45:25.000Say what is going on, but also show all these people that got COVID and they were vaccinated and they survived and they're okay and maybe they wouldn't have.
00:45:40.000Show your hand and then people make the decision.
00:45:43.000Don't force people into taking this shit.
00:45:46.000That's where, like, and Biden is still pushing that vaccine mandate with employees or employers with over 100 people.
00:45:54.000You know, and now they have until January 4th.
00:45:57.000And that could be the way I quit my job.
00:46:00.000Because there's more than 100 people where I work, and the general manager there has been pretty good about it, but they say if OSHA says this or it's a mandate, it's like, man, it's tough.
00:46:16.000I never thought we'd be in a position where an experimental vaccine would be something that people are forced to take if they want to keep their job or travel or go to restaurants or go to bars, especially when you have natural immunity.
00:46:30.000There are people that have survived COVID-19.
00:48:19.000And the vapor, he's like, the vape molecules are far larger than the molecules for COVID. So this idea that this thing in front of your mouth is stopping COVID particles from getting into the air.
00:49:05.000But this idea that it offers real protection.
00:49:09.000Like, if you knew that you're going to wear one of those masks and walk into a plague house where everybody's dying in a plague, you wouldn't wear that fucking cloth, paper, whatever the fuck it is, thing on your face.
00:49:19.000Those will work if you were going to cough and cough a loogie into somebody's mouth.
00:50:19.000I mean, I don't know how they would do that.
00:50:21.000I mean, I think they've done data in terms of infection rates of people wearing masks or not wearing masks, but it's so hard because so many of these studies, they're so biased.
00:50:30.000You can tell that they're saying things because they want to come to a conclusion.
00:50:51.000The censorship is the scariest thing because people don't understand that by censoring people, you're just making the other side seem like they have a point.
00:51:06.000You're still making it seem like they have a point.
00:51:09.000Did you know that there was a bunch of people that went to Dallas yesterday because they thought that JFK was returning and that he was going to be Trump's VP? JFK Jr. JFK Jr. Yeah.
00:52:57.000Groups of people that find a thing, whatever that thing is, whether it's QAnon or whether it's like Marxism, like whatever it is, they find a thing and then they find a bunch of other people that are willing to greet that thing and then they get in an echo chamber and they fucking just yell at everybody else.
00:54:03.000That's why people, like, stay in the same place and they don't take any, they don't do any adventures, they don't try anything dangerous.
00:54:11.000They just like stay in their lane and they rot away like that because they're just afraid of the risk.
00:54:17.000And so because uncertainty makes people scared when they can find people that will assure them and reassure them and provide them with a framework and they don't have to do any thinking, they cling on to that.
00:54:32.000And then they find a bunch of other people who agree with that and then they reinforce each other and then they attack anybody.
00:54:37.000Who disagrees with that opinion because you're literally attacking their very existence.
00:55:10.000I mean, I thought something weird for a second though, but even like, you know, they say women who have been abused, they stay in that relationship.
00:55:27.000So then I was thinking, I saw this clip the other day, and it was this guy says, he says, he asked people if they would take $10 million What could you do with $10 million?
00:55:42.000And people said they could live a good life for a year, 10 years, or however long.
00:55:47.000And he goes, okay, well, what if I gave you $10 million, but then you wouldn't wake up tomorrow?
00:55:52.000They said, well, no, I wouldn't do that.
00:56:24.000When you put it like that, it's an easy decision to make.
00:56:26.000But when you just say, well, I'm just gonna wake up and go through the motions, it's like, are you really maximizing the value of your life, the gift of life?
00:56:34.000Yeah, it's interesting how people, like, develop these patterns.
00:56:41.000And one of the things that they do is, like, unless something radical happens to you where you feel like it's all gonna be taken away, you just can take it for granted.
00:56:50.000Like, those near-death experiences are so profound for people.
00:56:53.000Because so many people have something happen like a cancer scare or maybe a car accident or some kind of a near-death experience where they walk out of it and then they realize like they could have lost everything.
00:58:29.000And the longer you get into that life, the harder it is to get it.
00:58:33.000If you're 55 years old, and you've been living this dull-ass, boring life your whole life, and you've never taken any chances, and your body looks like shit, and it's fat and doughy, and you're tired all the time, and you decide, I want to be a beast today.
00:59:01.000Yeah, I mean, and we've talked about this before, but even where I work now, there's people who I worked with, and they'd say, well, you keep that up.
00:59:09.000You won't be running when you're 40. You won't be doing this.
00:59:12.000You won't be doing that because you need replacements.
00:59:15.000You won't be able to walk and all this, but...
00:59:18.000What happens is, and we talked about this with Goggins the other day, but your body, his was pretty extreme, but your body does adapt to the load you put on it.
01:01:06.000Like some people, you know, they kick the pills and their life is doing good and then they, you know, get to a point where they made a lot of improvement and they'll slide right back into the pills again.
01:01:23.000It's almost like that pattern is better for their brain because they know what happens when you do that versus the open-ended possibilities of just going for it.
01:01:38.000Just trying to live a maximized life because if you do and you fail, The pain of that, it's difficult to deal with.
01:02:08.000Well, that's, I mean, that's what I've always admired about you is like, you've had so much success, you know, you say from podcasting to comedy, but then you're willing to try something hard like bow hunting and people who bow hunt know how hard it is.
01:02:21.000And for you to embrace that has just been a lot of people won't do that, you know, because it is so hard.
01:03:30.000Because I feel, just for me personally, and I don't know why, I'm thinking about it as we are discussing this, but when I first started hunting, I would have a beat-up Toyota, not even a four-wheel drive, a two-wheel drive piece of shit.
01:03:44.000And I drive it hunting, but I feel like now I have that same drive to succeed as I did then, but I travel in comfort to get to my house, but I still hunt the same as I did.
01:04:02.000Because your mindset is not—you can look at it one way, like the hungry people are the people that don't have anything, and so they're trying hard to get to that thing.
01:04:17.000But what you're doing is you're trying hard, as hard as you can, to achieve excellence.
01:04:26.000If your focus is always on excellence, it doesn't matter if you get there in a fucking new Raptor or if you get there in a busted-down old pickup truck that barely runs.
01:04:36.000Like, it's an inconsequential Whether or not you're struggling financially, it doesn't matter because the struggle, the physical struggle, is always difficult.
01:05:35.000You have to be fit enough to get to the top of the mountain.
01:05:38.000You have to be able to execute a good shot under pressure.
01:05:42.000And the feeling of making a good shot is beyond description.
01:05:48.000It's so hard for us to explain to someone what it's like to center that pin on the vitals, watch that arrow, Slam in there and know you did it and watch that animal briefly run off and then tip over and know you gave that thing the quickest death possible and The reason why it has the quickest death possible is because you develop your skills You develop your accuracy and your ability to to execute
01:06:18.000under pressure and it's fucking hard to do it's really hard to do and And you don't get a chance to do it again.
01:08:12.000I mean, people, they shoot perfect 300s and people who don't know, I've never even done it.
01:08:18.000I don't even know anything about target, but I know that they shoot um a certain amount of arrows and you can get a 300 score and if you hit right in the x that's the certain amount of x's so i think it's 60 arrows you can get 60 x's if you're perfect but anyway you can master that because people have done that before you can't master bow hunting no you cannot master but i don't care who you are i don't care how long you do it it's you and that animal and it's an imperfect I mean,
01:08:46.000man's imperfect, hunting's imperfect, and it's just, you'll never master it.
01:08:51.000That's why it's so important to always be at your best.
01:09:30.000The reason why it's so exciting is there's a part of our ancient memory that recognizes that the difference between life and death is whether or not you get that fish and you get that nutrition and you can feed a family.
01:10:54.000I'm trying to think what I, I mean, I think about, I love the meat, but I think about when I was growing up is like seeing a big bull was like seeing a unicorn almost.
01:11:05.000I mean, it was, you know, we, we deer hunt a lot and that's all I used to hunt is deer.
01:11:10.000I never even hunted elk with a rifle, but seeing a big bull God.
01:11:21.000And people will, whoa, did you kill them?
01:11:23.000Listen, the death from a hunter is the best death that animal has ever gotten.
01:11:30.000They're not going to get a better death.
01:11:32.000That death is going to be quicker than any wolf or any mountain lion or any bear is ever going to give them, and they're not going to live forever.
01:11:39.000Like, the elk that I shot in Utah, his teeth were so worn down.
01:12:56.000Yeah, we couldn't figure out if, like, something had happened to her, if she'd gotten injured, or if she was just so old she couldn't chew her food anymore.
01:15:01.000It's like you can turn diabetic because of a shitty diet, because of being obese, because of...
01:15:06.000So it's like that's what I'm saying is society is so easy.
01:15:11.000A sickness like COVID where you might overcome quickly, and I know there's different variations of everything and everybody's different, but...
01:15:19.000A lot of people probably died because of how easy life is, right?
01:15:57.000They're not pushing their body and making it more resilient and making it tougher.
01:16:01.000And the small amount of people that are, they're not treated like they're different in terms of what they're expected to do or not do during the pandemic.
01:16:11.000And that's one of the things that's so weird.
01:16:13.000It's like when you look at the real numbers of the people that do survive, the people that are sick and the people that aren't.
01:16:18.000And you take into account the nutrients.
01:16:21.000They want a one-size-fits-all policy for everything because they want you to feel the same way some fucking 500-pound guy with diabetes and emphysema.
01:17:30.000How about talk about vitamin D? Talk about the fact that 84% of the people that were in the ICU at one point in time for COVID had insufficient levels of vitamin D. 84%.
01:23:17.000But if you look at the Donaher death squad, like the elite jiu-jitsu squad in the world, Gordon Ryan, Gary Tonin, all those guys, those motherfuckers take zero days off.
01:27:27.000And she was so excited because she's so smart and she understands all the mechanisms of what's going on, why your body's reacting the way it is.
01:27:52.000You know, it's like, she had always been a fan of the sauna, and she had done that a lot, but, like, the ice, the cryotherapy had been a new thing.
01:29:12.000But you have to do it in that ice bath.
01:29:15.000But I'm like in through my nose and out.
01:29:18.000I can do like six breaths a minute or something like that.
01:29:21.000And so I know I count to 20. And then I'll look at the clock and I'm like, God, thank God I'm over two and a half minutes or something like that.
01:30:23.000Like I didn't have hypothermia, but you could get hypothermia because they say 34 degrees for 15 minutes induces hypothermia, but I didn't get hypothermia.
01:30:46.000I read a book called Breathe by James Nestor, and he's been a guest on the podcast before, and it's all about breathing exercises and deep breathing exercises and what it could do for you.
01:30:56.000But one of the things that it definitely does is it heats your core up, right?
01:31:00.000So if you watch the video of me doing it, I'm going like this.
01:31:57.000But that was also before I had my sauna set up, which made it way easier.
01:32:01.000Because once I... The sauna setup, I can get in that bitch for, you know, whatever minutes, and I know that sauna's right there waiting for me.
01:32:10.000But one of the things that's really weird is I do a couple minutes in the ice bath, and then I get into the sauna, and the juxtaposition of sauna to ice bath, like the change in temperature is so extreme, because I'm going for 33,
01:36:19.000But if you see, like, if someone's doing something, if you see someone trying to do a sport and they suck at it, and then they lose, but then you see them, like, a couple of years later and they're a bad motherfucker at it, you're like, oh, that person felt the sting of loss,
01:37:21.000Well, you know, the risk of failure used to be connected to survival, like doing things and accomplishing them.
01:37:28.000That's why your genes carried on, as opposed to the people that just waited to die and then didn't do anything.
01:37:35.000And that's one of the reasons why women are very attracted to people that are great at things, because they know It's difficult to get great at things.
01:40:05.000I mean, that's how it was for me with bowhunting.
01:40:07.000Well, first with sports, you know, I played football and things like that, but then after that, then it was nothing, and then bowhunting.
01:40:13.000When kids find a thing that they excel at and then they get some praise and they get positive feedback from excelling at that thing, that is so magical for them.
01:40:25.000I feel so terrible for children that never get good at a thing, never feel that, the struggle and then reward upon success.
01:40:34.000But also there's a fine line there because now we celebrate mediocrity.
01:41:13.000This is a very confusing time for a lot of people.
01:41:16.000And the reality of the lessons of life are that they're hard won.
01:41:22.000They're hard won and they're difficult.
01:41:24.000Like if someone wants to be you, if someone could like...
01:41:29.000Get into your body and have, like, you wake up, okay, you have the mind that you had when you're fucking Harry McGillicuddy, whatever the fuck your name is, but you get to live as Cam Haynes for a day, and you have a schedule in front of you.
01:41:45.000You gotta get up, like, today you gotta run 16 miles in the morning, and then you're gonna run 10 during lunch, and then you're gonna shoot your bow, and then you're gonna lift.
01:42:57.000The people who come up short, they're lessons for us.
01:43:00.000The people who make excuses and who hate on other people and talk shit about people behind their back and then aren't to their face, they're there for us.
01:43:09.000That feeling that you get when you're around someone who comes up Who puts in less effort than they should, who makes excuses, and you feel that...
01:43:21.000When you feel someone, maybe they lie about something, about the way it went, like...
01:44:24.000And now, I'm just attracted to like the Goggins and like that, you know, people who are successful, who are paving a way and are making an actual difference and never pulling people down.
01:47:32.000He makes fresh baked bread, and I give him elk meat.
01:47:35.000When I moved here, I gave him one of my commercial freezers, because I had him in my studio, so I gave him one of my freezers, gave him a bunch of elk in it.
01:50:01.000It's an interesting thing, the journey of life and learning what you can and can't do and learning why you couldn't do it and that maybe you could have done it if you did something differently.
01:50:13.000I think it's important to like so where we are now when you get older I think it's we've talked about taking risks and we talked about doing hard things but those things humble you yeah you know I know fighting can humble you greatly I haven't done it like you know like what you have but bowhunting can humble you the long the big endurance races can humble you so I think that being humbled man that that makes a big impact on somebody It does,
01:50:44.000It's like not just the humbling, but the actual success, you know?
01:50:48.000It's like watching, like we were saying, watching an arrow perfectly fly and slam into the vitals when you know it was a lethal shot, and you know that it's lethal because you fucking practiced.
01:51:00.000You put in all that time, all that time.
01:52:00.000Where something like not once in a lifetime but close to it and it comes down to an arrow flying through the air and killing it, you've got to practice for that moment.
01:52:11.000You've got to practice for that moment.
01:52:31.000Yeah, the next time it's not going to have anything to do with that time.
01:52:33.000Yeah, I had an aggravated shoulder and I took a couple months off of shooting and then I remember like the first arrow back It was like 65 yards on a target.
01:53:13.000I could have stopped right there and pretended that I didn't have to work hard.
01:53:18.000I've heard that people will go on elk hunts and literally not practice until they get into camp.
01:53:23.000And then they pull out their bow and they get a little Reinhardt target and they start firing a couple of arrows at them like, what are you talking about?
01:54:32.000We were there, and we had the dream team, right?
01:54:36.000It was you, Adam Greentree, John Dudley, Remy Warren, Shane Dorian, I mean, god damn, there was a lot of killers in that camp, right?
01:54:47.000Like, guys who were professionals, guys who were, like, expert archers, guys like Shane Dorian that have a lot of animals under their belt, so...
01:57:06.000You have to make sure that you've practiced so much that you have 100% confidence that when you release that arrow, it's gonna go where you want it to go.
01:58:07.000Yeah, I think crunch time's harder because there's a lot of proficient people that are proficient, but they're just not good during crunch time.
01:58:16.000Yeah, there's great shooters that screw it up.
01:58:19.000They screw it up after decades of hunting, too.
01:58:22.000They're some of the best shooters in the world who mess up in crunch time.
01:58:35.000Miyamoto Musashi, the great samurai who wrote that book, The Book of Five Rings, he said, once you understand the way broadly, you can see it in all things.
01:58:45.000And when I think of bow hunting, it's an incredibly difficult pursuit.
01:58:50.000And it's like many incredibly difficult pursuits.
02:00:03.000I care about that animal so it's like it's all part of that test that focus and it's um but I don't know people have the hardest time with that but I mean I don't know maybe that's one of the reasons why that Leupold uh full draw for that range finder so good yeah because when you program it right I know you haven't programmed yours but if you program it right it shows you exactly where the height of the arrow is yeah so if you're looking at a target It shows you,
02:00:58.000It's really important because he explains what is going on during this moment of crunch time with your mind and how your mind just wants it to be over with.
02:01:43.000So yeah, that can happen in the blink of an eye, or it seems like a thousand miles an hour, when really it's a lot of steps to that process you need to be aware of.
02:01:52.000This bullet I shot in California, which was absolutely the biggest bullet I ever shot in my life.
02:01:59.000So aware of every single moment of the whole process, and we called this bull in, and the bull circled around to try to get our wind, and when he was at 50 yards, he was looking right at us,
02:02:14.000but he still wasn't sure what we were because we were fully camoed.
02:02:17.000Like, when a bull sees you and you're not moving, they don't know what the fuck you are.
02:02:22.000They recognize movement, so if you're still, yeah.
02:02:25.000So he was trying to figure out what we were, but he was clearly horny.
02:02:29.000And when my buddy Cody, who's with me, the guide, when he blew the cow call and the bull stopped at 50 yards, I remember every single thing I did.
02:02:42.000I remember watching the peep and then settling it in there with the housing, making sure it's perfect, making sure the level is just right, pulling through the shot, and then...
02:04:18.000When I take like 10 months off of hunting and then I go back in and hunt again, like the first arrow or so, that's one of the things that's great about lanai.
02:04:28.000That hunt is the best hunt to warm up because you've got all these targets.
02:04:55.000It's, you know, I was, I was thinking, well, I think a lot of things when I think about hunting, but, uh, that is one where we're in regular society.
02:05:03.000It's like, everything's a thousand miles an hour.
02:05:06.000We're not even paying attention to detail, barely listening to people when they talk, you know, and just, and with hunting, it's like, you have to shed all that.
02:05:14.000And you're like, no, I got to be present in every single moment.
02:05:18.000I've got to make all these good decisions.
02:05:20.000I've got to be aware of the wind, of everything that's going on.
02:05:22.000So you're hyper-focused, whereas in life, you're not focused at all a lot of times.
02:06:58.000No, I remember that bull, but I remember that moment, and we have that moment captured forever, but I was thinking about how important that is for hunters to have those memories and to be able to look back, because other than that, it's just that I'm going to die in on one day.
02:07:14.000I think one of the problems that we face is that it's very difficult for us to get the way we feel about hunting to get into the minds of other people that don't hunt.
02:07:24.000You know, they don't understand why we're so happy when the animal gets hit.
02:07:29.000Because they don't understand how hard it is to do.
02:07:31.000They don't understand there's so much anxiety and there's so much pressure.
02:07:35.000And then when you keep it together and execute and you see that arrow right behind the shoulder, right into the vitals, and you know you did your job.
02:08:01.000I was watching a video today where this guy shot this giant mule deer.
02:08:05.000And afterwards, him and his buddy were laughing and high-fiving, and he grabs this huge 215-plus mule deer by the antlers, and they're just giddy with excitement.
02:08:19.000I'm like, to someone who doesn't understand hunting, you would look at that and go, oh, these guys are vicious psychopaths.
02:10:15.000If you just looked at reality, if you say, like, hunting's not available, it's not a way the world can survive with food and we need to all go vegan because otherwise everyone's going to be factory farming.
02:10:27.000I'm not telling you what to do, but I'm telling you what I do.
02:10:30.000If you want to do what I do, guess what?
02:10:41.000I know bow hunting especially is gaining in popularity, in large part because of you and what you've talked about and these discussions like this.
02:10:49.000And who wouldn't be attracted to that?
02:11:05.000And you know, my first feeling of success hunting was not bow hunting, it was rifle hunting.
02:11:11.000When Steve Rinella, I mean, first of all, how lucky am I, rather, to have Steve Rinella introduce me to hunting and you introduce me to bow hunting.
02:11:21.000But when he took me out on that mule deer hunt in Montana and I shot that buck and we were eating that meat over the fire that night, I remember thinking right away, I'm doing this forever.
02:14:47.000I just couldn't believe the food we ate there.
02:14:49.000The thing about wild game cooks like Jesse Griffiths or Steve Rinello, who's an amazing cook himself, it's like wild game cooks, they have, there's a different feeling of connection to the animals that they're cooking because not only are these people chefs, like Jesse's an amazing chef,
02:15:34.000He takes them through the whole thing.
02:15:35.000Shooting the animal, butchering it, and then cooking it.
02:15:39.000So he teaches them through this whole course that he runs.
02:15:43.000And it's to get people more enthusiastic and get them to understand what hunting is like and get them to appreciate what's possible with wild game cooking.
02:15:55.000Well, if she prepared it, I mean, it's the best meal you've ever had.
02:16:49.000And the thing about it, I can tell, like for whatever reason, the bulls I kill, I can always tell the Arizona, the Arizona bull is the best bull of any of the ones I kill.
02:17:57.000The thing about elk is most of the people that are buying elk, if you go to a restaurant and you get elk tenderloin, what's crazy is you're getting it from New Zealand.
02:19:44.000And you set the Joule, whatever company, there's a bunch of different sous vide companies, but the idea is it keeps the water at 130 degrees.
02:20:35.000You know, most of the way I cook it was with a Traeger, but you get the same thing.
02:20:39.000I use the thermometer inside of it, and I get it to like...
02:20:45.000With a Traeger, I usually keep it a little lower.
02:20:47.000I get it to like 120 degrees, but I heat it up at like 260. So I'll heat it at 260 until it reaches an internal temperature of 120, and then I sear it on the outside.
02:21:26.000But that also too reminded me of somebody who came up, you know, maybe that hard upbringing, character developing, without her upbringing, and it sounded terrible, but maybe she wouldn't be Jewel.
02:21:57.000But the Jewel one, so many people were motivated by her and so many people were impressed by her.
02:22:04.000I knew she was smart because I'd seen her talk on Instagram and I'd seen the videos that she did and her and I had gone back and forth and we had chatted but not in person.
02:22:20.000But then to see her talk in person and realize...
02:22:23.000Not only is she smart to do a quick clip on Instagram where you get to see the way her brain works, but when you're having a conversation with her, a prolonged conversation for hours, I told her she should do a podcast when I tell it to everybody.
02:22:37.000But I mean it when I say it, because I think it's an amazing way to be completely independent, but especially her.
02:22:45.000You don't get to be that person without trial by fire.
02:22:51.000She left her house when she was 15. She was homeless at 18. I know.
02:26:49.000So as podcasts develop, and then as I've developed my skill at communicating, which is definitely, I think, podcasting and conversations, having a conversation with a person is a skill.
02:30:54.000And then the day before that, I had my friend Ari Shafir, my friend Shane Gillis and Mark Norman, and we were all drunk and smoking cigars.
02:31:02.000It's like it's all different, and we're talking shit, it's wild.
02:31:05.000It's like every podcast is like a different kind of experience, but I have...
02:31:10.000More of an understanding of people because of that than I would have ever had if I just lived a regular life.
02:31:17.000But I think also the people that listen in, they get the same thing that I got out of it.
02:31:24.000What I'm getting out of it is not much different than what they're getting out of it.
02:31:28.000Because you can listen to these conversations and you also get exposed to people like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson and Neil deGrasse Tyson and Brian Cox and all these comedians and Cam Haynes and all these different human beings.
02:31:44.000It's like you get to see all the different ways a person can think about life and live life.
02:34:52.000Yeah, that's one of the luckiest things that I am, because I'm such a fan of the sport.
02:34:56.000So for me to not just get to be there, but to be there right at the edge of the cage with all the monitors and the headphones so I could hear everything perfectly, and to sit next to Daniel Cormier and John Anik,
02:35:12.000and to call the fights, and then the fact that I can actually, like...
02:35:16.000Enhance it for some people and put words to the performances and express how much of a fan I am and let that enthusiasm come through.
02:36:05.000Yeah, and when I talked to her inside the octagon when I said before the fight cuz she was standing there before the fight She was like I'm the best I'm the best yeah And then I said that you were saying this to yourself before the front she goes I am the best yeah, it's like oh The way she said it was a revelation,
02:36:22.000but it was like it was also was so pure It was like she was laughing and smiling and enjoying it and And even when she won the title, like when she won the title and she beat Joanna Jacek, she was like,
02:37:13.000I know she knocked Zhang Weili out in the first fight with that head kick, but had she not landed that kick, that woman is a fucking monster.
02:37:23.000Zhang Weili is one of the strongest women fighters that has ever existed.
02:37:28.000She's so powerful and so aggressive, and her physical preparation is second to none.
02:37:33.000When you watch that lady train, you're like, holy fuck.
02:38:39.000Incredible in her ability to rise to the occasion and find the mark.
02:38:44.000Like when she landed that head kick on her, I mean think about how many times she's done that.
02:38:48.000When she knocked out Ioana, when she landed that left hook on Ioana and then cracked her and dropped her and then put her away, like she can do that to anybody.
02:38:59.000And she looks so innocent, just like her appearance is so polar opposite of the violence she can cause.
02:39:06.000I know, totally unassuming and beautiful.
02:39:33.000And whether she's going to be tentative now and worried about getting hit again, or whether she's just going to be ferocious because she wants to get it back and she wants to get revenge.
02:39:42.000And to see how Rose responds to it, because listen, if you don't take Zhang Weili out like that, you're in for a war.
02:39:48.000That fight that she had with Ioana Yun-Jacek was one of the craziest fights I've ever seen.
02:39:53.000The back-and-forth war between Zhang Weili and Ioana Yun-Jacek was an all-time classic.
02:43:00.000It's smart that people are talking about it.
02:43:04.000The thing about him is you can get caught up in the hype and think that he's a joker and it's a lot of show business, but that motherfucker can fight.
02:43:13.000He can fight, and his gas tank is second to none.
02:43:17.000The only person that's right there with him is Kamaru.
02:43:20.000I think those two guys go down as all-time greats.
02:43:23.000And I think if it wasn't for Kamaru, if Kamaru didn't exist, Kobe would 100% be the UFC welterweight champion.
02:43:33.000Yeah, he puts a lot on, and I could see his point about the momentum getting stopped when he kicked and they called it, Kamaru acted like a nut shot.
02:43:46.000Let's see what that, I'm trying to remember that.
02:43:49.000I'm trying to remember where it landed.
02:43:52.000Colby's saying that that stopped his momentum, and he goes, you know how fighting is momentum, and he landed some shots, landed that big shot, and then it was stopped.
02:47:52.000So they did give him a little bit of a break there, and Colby's got a real argument there.
02:47:57.000Yeah, and so he thought he had the momentum there because he was hurt.
02:48:01.000I mean, it's possible that it shoved the cup into...
02:48:10.000Yeah, you know, there's an argument that if it wasn't stopped right there for that moment, if the referee said keep fighting, that Colby might have gained an advantage.
02:48:22.000Especially when they're looking at two rounds, two rounds.
02:49:23.000I mean, they would have to, like, look at that, boom, right hand.
02:49:26.000So this is the most important part of the fight, because there's a war of attrition, and right now Kamaru has hurt him real bad, and Colby's just turtled up, and Kamaru stops him, and he drops him twice and then stops him.
02:56:56.000Nate Diaz, like with Leon, like Nate Diaz losing that fight until the fifth round and then cracking Leon and having Leon in real fucking serious trouble.
02:57:08.000And I guess, could you see Nate choking Kamzat out?
02:57:24.000You know, if Nate gets paid big for that fight, if they set up a main event somewhere, Hamzat and Nate for a title elimination fight, I think if every fight went 100 rounds, Nate would never lose.
02:57:39.000I like how he talks about in the street you wouldn't be...
03:00:55.000Tremendous experience, both in Bellator and in the UFC. And I'm interested to see how he deals with the kind of pressure that Gaethje puts on you.
03:01:27.000Well, you know, when a guy has a spectacular UFC debut and knocks out a guy like Dan Hooker and then loses a shot at the interim belt, which is like a big opportunity.
03:01:52.000And there's a difference between someone who throws things short and technically, where everything's like hands up high, everything is perfectly placed.
03:02:02.000Chandler is, you know, a wild fucking bull of a man.
03:02:06.000And he just left himself a little open in that wild, reckless attack.