Kyle Rittenhouse is on trial for the murder of a black man named Terence Dorian Grosskreutz, who was shot to death by police in a protest in Ferguson, Missouri on August 9th, 2011. The defense argues that he acted in self-defense and that he was the only one who fired into the crowd. The prosecution argues that the real shooter was a white man named Joseph Rosenbaum, who is now serving a life sentence in prison. The defense also argue that the other shooter, Anthony Huber, is guilty of multiple counts of rape and child molestation and should be sent to prison for his crimes. The jury is still deliberating and the case could come back to a verdict as early as next week. This episode is brought to you by Gimlet Media and the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline. Thanks to everyone for all your support, stay safe out there and Stay Safe Out There! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Subscribe to stay up to date with the latest episodes of SPOTIFY and stay safe Outro music by my main amigo, Evan Handyside. Please rate, review and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and review us on whatever you're listening to! Subscribe, review, and subscribe to our podcast on Apple Music and Stitcher. Thank you for listening and share the podcast! if you're enjoying this episode! We really appreciate it! -Evan and Luke - Thank you so much for all the love and support. -Maggie and Luke xoxo - Cheers and Cheers, Cheers - Cheers! - Sarah & Luke xo xo - JUICY <3 -JGage and Gage & JUICE XOXO - -JACOB & JACOB . -Sergio Thankyou -JUICE & JAY & JOSIE -PODCAST -JOSH & JOSH -ROBBIE - JOSH & RYAN - JACO & RACO - CRYANCHOR -JOSYNN JOSYN (AUGMENT AND KEVIN MCCARTE CHEERIE PODCAST
00:00:51.000Yeah, but seriously, thanks for coming.
00:00:53.000When it came together accidentally because one by one, everyone wanted to come on the show on the same day, I felt bad for Blair White because we had originally booked her.
00:01:01.000And then at the last minute, I can't remember who it was, probably Luke, he was like, have you asked Joe?
00:01:05.000And I was like, he's got a comedy show, he's too busy.
00:01:08.000But, you know, if you don't ask, the answer is always no.
00:01:10.000And then Joe's like, yeah, I'll come by, this would be great.
00:01:55.000Like, there's many people that thought that this Kyle Rittenhouse kid had shot black protesters, when in fact it was white Antifa rioters, and then if you look at their record, they were all criminals.
00:02:47.000He was not Black Lives Matter, at least in my opinion.
00:02:49.000I think this is a guy who was suicidal.
00:02:52.000He was screaming, shoot me N-word, shoot me N-word over and over again.
00:02:55.000He attacked a kid with a gun who was screaming friendly, friendly, friendly and running away and then tried grabbing it.
00:03:01.000And then within.739 of a second, Rittenhouse let off four shots As Rosenbaum was reaching for his gun, as testified by Richie McGinnis, and he crumpled to the ground.
00:03:13.000And that's when these other guys, the whole mob, you know, Kyle runs for the police, and then the rest of the mob starts running after him, like, get him, cranium that boy, get him, get him, get him.
00:03:23.000Anthony Huber is an interesting one because he's the dude who hit him with the skateboard twice.
00:03:27.000People don't know this because you'll hear from the conservatives like, oh, he was hitting him with the skateboard and you see that photo of Rittenhouse on the ground.
00:03:33.000Apparently he hit Rittenhouse from behind with the skateboard before Rittenhouse fell.
00:03:43.000Gage Grosskreutz, the next guy, charged at Rittenhouse with a gun in his hand.
00:03:47.000And you want to know where it gets really crazy?
00:03:49.000Grosskreutz testified on the stand that he told police, and he believed, Kyle Rittenhouse said, I'm working with the police as he was running down the street.
00:03:58.000Because Gage Grosskreutz was running alongside him.
00:04:01.000Grosskreutz runs back, turns around and runs towards him, pulling his Glock 27 out from his waistband.
00:04:08.000That means Gage Grosskreutz, if he's telling the truth, and he's probably not, believed Kyle Rittenhouse was a police informant or in some way working with cops, so he should draw his Glock 27 on this kid and run up to him gun drawn.
00:06:05.000So explain that, because I thought he wasn't old enough to carry.
00:06:10.000So, in Wisconsin, there's an exemption for rifles and shotguns if you're 16 or 17. It is believed the exemption is so that you can hunt, but it's not specifically about hunting.
00:06:22.000So, open carry is, in Wisconsin, if you're above 18, is that what it is?
00:07:02.000All the legal experts who are being honest about this from the first day this happened immediately came out and said he was legally carrying that rifle.
00:07:12.000But I guess for the same reason people claimed Kyle Rittenhouse shot black people, they claimed the gun was illegal.
00:07:18.000You know, I never heard anybody say that he shot black people, but I think people just assumed that he shot black people.
00:07:25.000I don't think most people are even aware of the details of this case, especially the people that are, which is really disturbing, the people that are commenting on it in the media.
00:07:34.000Like, Joe Scarborough got a bunch of shit wrong.
00:09:01.000But I don't give these people the benefit of the doubt when, you know, I'm watching this trial, same as everybody else, and within the span of five, ten minutes, he says, it was, you know, the defense asked him, you pointed your gun and then he shot you, and Gage Gross-Correct.
00:09:13.000If it was a mistake, they could have issued a correction and said, oh, he actually testified, he advanced on him with a gun pointed towards him.
00:09:23.000It's the refusal to accept you were wrong and to perpetuate the narrative of your groupthink.
00:09:29.000I don't even know if it's that or if they're just doing that because that's the way they get people to watch and pay attention, to reinforce this narrative that would be the most inflammatory and the most outrageous narrative, which is that this guy is just on a rampage and we're going to let him off because he's white.
00:09:50.000I think over the past several years, these media organizations, they found they made a lot of money hating on, you know, quote unquote, the far right and Donald Trump.
00:10:00.000What ends up happening is your core audience who actually wants news eventually grows wise to the fact that you're just spewing out a narrative and they leave.
00:10:09.000If you have a viewership that's 80% moderate news interested people, and the only thing you say is, you know, Trump is bad and the far right is bad, eventually you'll lose most of those moderates and retain a very left ideological group.
00:10:22.000Now, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, that's their core audience.
00:10:27.000If they come out now and say something honest like...
00:10:30.000You know, it looks like Kyle Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense.
00:10:32.000They're going to start losing even them, and they're not going to get back the people they lied to.
00:11:19.000Do the producers not understand what the fuck is going on?
00:11:23.000Do they want to flavor the narrative that they think that their core audience, what you were talking about, the hardcore lefties, are going to want to hear?
00:11:31.000And that's how they need to capture them?
00:11:36.000When I worked for that, and I probably told you this the last time I was here, when I worked for Fusion, the ABC News Univision company, The president of the company said in multiple meetings, we're here to side with the audience.
00:11:48.000And I had a private meeting with him where he told me that.
00:11:51.000He said, you know, we're going to side with the audience and our audience are like young, progressive.
00:11:55.000So we're here to like basically side with them.
00:11:59.000And I asked him, you know, does that mean if there is a factual news story that would be offensive or upsetting to our audience, we won't report it?
00:12:06.000And he said, yes, I think that's fair.
00:12:08.000I take it to a darker place where it's basically like lie and omit.
00:12:13.000And I think it's because the guys who run the business, they don't know anything about news.
00:12:18.000I think it's actually to their defense to say this.
00:12:21.000A business guy says, we need to bring in enough money to pay everyone's salary so they can do this work.
00:12:26.000People want to hear the news and the news that's important to them.
00:12:28.000So we make sure we're siding with them and getting the audience what they need and want.
00:12:33.000But that goes to a dark place when your motive is clicks and revenue instead of passion and principle.
00:12:41.000I think most of these companies are realizing that with the internet, with new media, there's millions of different news outlets people can choose from.
00:14:05.000There is actually witnesses who have said Brian Stelter was drinking a corrosive battery chemical, a chemical used for cleaning corrosion off batteries.
00:14:16.000He was actually seen later cleaning a drinking engine coolant.
00:14:45.000But it's not even just they're not scared of getting sued.
00:14:47.000They're not scared of being publicly...
00:14:50.000Shamed for being full of shit like it doesn't have any effect on them with Don Lemon is the only dummy that actually commented on it You know when Sanjay Gupta actually we should be clear that it is not a lie That it's a horse dewormer and Sanjay Gupta said that's true.
00:15:05.000No, that's not what he said He said after that, and it's also not cleared for use by the FDA. And he said, that's true.
00:15:14.000So he tried to talk about it again and talk about the horse dewormer part of it, about ivermectin being used for humans, and then Don Lemon steamrolled him.
00:16:00.000I think he can absolutely be led astray and in a bad way, especially when you're doing those short clips, like when you call in to CNN. Like, he's somewhere remotely looking into a camera, they're in his ear, and then Don Lemon or whoever the fuck else it is is on the other line.
00:16:46.000There's like a contrarian – it's a reference to being contrarian where you just believe something is right because the establishment thinks it's wrong or whatever.
00:16:54.000And the media now still tries to claim that I've been gung-ho on ivermectin when I've actually been either neutral to slightly critical.
00:17:01.000Well, the evidence is not negative towards ivermectin, but it is muddy.
00:17:06.000And the reason why it's muddy is there's not real solid funded studies that make much sense.
00:17:12.000But they do know that it stops viral replication in vitro.
00:17:16.000We do know that they treated at least 100, if not 200, congresspeople who were sick pre-vaccine.
00:18:02.000People there have a high propensity for, you know, parasite infestation.
00:18:06.000And so if you've got worms and your immune system is being bogged down or strained, you get sick, you're more likely to die and have a serious reaction.
00:18:13.000You take ivermectin, you cure those worms, your immune system is more robust.
00:18:18.000I'm not saying it discredits everything.
00:18:23.000It's not as simple as, like, you don't have worms anymore, so your immune system is stronger.
00:18:27.000Because there's plenty of people that don't have worms that have an immune system that gets wrecked by COVID. What they're showing is that there's a direct correlation between taking ivermectin and having positive results.
00:19:05.000What you took that's undeniable, what I took that's undeniable, is monoclonal antibodies.
00:19:12.000When I talked about the stuff that I took, I read off a laundry list of things, and all they concentrated on is ivermectin.
00:19:20.000And they said I was promoting ivermectin.
00:19:22.000This is clearly some sort of a campaign to discredit ivermectin.
00:19:26.000And if you read the critical care, the frontline critical COVID care website, or you can follow their Twitter feed as well, they talk about, and Dr. Pierre Corey has an article about how the FDA, they targeted ivermectin.
00:19:44.000They actually targeted it as a drug to single out as being ineffective.
00:19:48.000Well, they don't say a goddamn thing about remdesivir.
00:19:51.000Remdesivir is something that they prescribe for COVID early on that causes kidney failure.
00:19:56.000You know, I don't like to believe in coordinated campaigns, grand schemes or anything like that, but this is why I was basically bringing it up.
00:20:05.000Because even right here, I'm like, well, there's a possibility, you know, worms, I'm even somewhat, I'm kind of a middle-of-the-road guy.
00:20:11.000I tweeted, monoclonal antibodies saved me, in my opinion.
00:20:15.000And the NAD +, that popped me back up.
00:23:43.000So, you know, Friday I decided I was gonna call a doctor and see if maybe there's something I need to be doing, maybe I need sunlight, vitamin D, whatever they might recommend for this.
00:23:50.000And I'm like, look, I'm healthy, 35, there's no way this is gonna get me down.
00:23:54.000And the doctor said, this is where it gets crazy, the doctor said to me, I'll give you the short version.
00:25:14.000Long story short, because I don't want to get into too much of the private details for me and my girlfriend and the people who got sick, but the next day I went and got the monoclonal antibodies, NAD and the vitamin drip, painkillers and ibuprofen.
00:27:57.000It was a propaganda video on some goofy sketch show where they were saying, what does Joe Rogan think while this guy's dying and not willing to take an EpiPen?
00:29:17.000And this is something that people, for whatever reason, they want a one-size-fits-all approach to COVID. Yeah, well, there's actually, I guess, big news on that.
00:29:25.000The vaccine mandate was just suspended outright by OSHA. Well, it's not legal.
00:31:11.000They tried to make an exemption against my exemption.
00:31:15.000Because I went there and I did Madison Square Garden.
00:31:18.000And then afterwards, a senator introduced a bill specifically with my name attached to it, saying people like Joe Rogan should not be able to come into our state and into our city and be unvaccinated and perform in New York City.
00:32:30.000There's a big difference between something being true and something not being on record.
00:32:39.000So it says the CDC does not recognize natural immunity.
00:32:43.000So a lawyer asked them under Freedom of Information Act to provide cases where someone recovered from COVID, got infected again, and then transmitted it.
00:32:53.000The CDC's response was, we did not find any such case.
00:32:57.000But that doesn't mean that that hasn't happened.
00:32:59.000It just means it hasn't been recorded.
00:33:01.000Because a lot of these cases are not being recorded.
00:33:05.000How many people are getting COVID and giving it to people and they're not recording that?
00:33:21.000We have mandates at schools for kids, but public school is optional.
00:33:25.000You can take your kid to a private school or home school, and there's medical and religious exemptions.
00:33:29.000And they like to cite this ruling from 1905 in the Supreme Court, where the Supreme Court ruled that you could mandate someone get a vaccine, but if the penalty was a $5 fine.
00:33:43.000And then they sued him saying he owes us the money for not getting this vaccine.
00:33:46.000Under the pretext of this ruling, I forget the name of it, they actually said if the government has the right to mandate medical procedures, we can sterilize invalids.
00:35:05.000I mean, this is the whole premise behind all the boosters and all this stuff.
00:35:10.000Literally, the best thing that someone could do is get vaccinated and then get COVID because the vaccine protects you from serious injury, serious damage from COVID, and then you get the sickness and then you have the real robust immunity that comes naturally.
00:35:25.000The fact that natural immunity is superior...
00:35:29.000But yet, it's not recognized in California, where you have to vaccine to do everything except go to a grocery store now.
00:35:35.000It's in LA. LA is a fucking hot mess right now.
00:35:49.000In Slovenia, they're forcing people to get a vaccine if you want to get gas.
00:35:54.000You have to show a vaccine card to pump gas.
00:35:56.000It's all a hustle, but it's all the vaccine companies and the manufacturers influencing these politicians, the politicians then making these decisions based on the influence that these pharmaceutical drug companies have over them, and that's the only reason why they would do this.
00:36:12.000Otherwise, you could test people for antibodies.
00:36:45.000So that one PubMed article about renal failure, I guarantee you I read something that was talking about high instances of kidney failure due to remdesivir, and they were actually talking about the mechanism involved in kidney failure,
00:37:01.000and that was one of the reasons why they stopped prescribing it.
00:37:03.000It was one of the earliest prescribed drugs.
00:37:07.000I found stuff about kidney failure, but when it comes to the COVID-19 and mixing those things, like adding that to it, nothing was found to be proven.
00:37:20.000But you found things on kidney failure and remdesivir.
00:37:22.000Yeah, outcomes of COVID-19 among patients with end-stage renal studies on remdesivir.
00:37:28.000And at the end of this, it says there's no big difference between the people that were on it and the people that were not on it.
00:38:14.000So the problem is, if you don't have a patent on it, and it's not profitable, then there's no incentive whatsoever for these companies to say, like, hey, forget about all those billions and billions of dollars that we're making off of this stuff.
00:38:26.000We got this shit for you that's generic, and you can just take it.
00:38:30.000That just shows you that this is a for-profit...
00:38:35.000And the amount of profit that's been generated by these pharmaceutical drug companies during this crisis from selling vaccines is fucking crazy.
00:38:43.000Which is why it's terrifying that they're now trying to give it to children.
00:38:51.000The children, they keep saying, 700 children have died from COVID. The children that have died from COVID, without exception, any that I've read, almost all of them, let's say that to be safe, almost all of them had severe comorbidities.
00:39:07.000They had leukemia, they had cancer, there was something seriously wrong with them, and they died of COVID. They were amazingly obese, whatever it was.
00:39:18.000It's not a disease that is very dangerous for most healthy young kids.
00:39:25.000Did you see that there's a big scandal where, I think it was Walgreens and a few other pharmacies were giving hundreds of children adult-sized doses.
00:39:52.000Now, I look at—when I do my show, I use mainstream media sources all the time, but I have to dig up to like 10 and find the source material.
00:39:59.000Where did it come from and do I trust it?
00:40:00.000It's not easy, and the average person can't do it.
00:40:02.000But, you know, I'm hearing rumors about, like, all these football players who have had, like, heart incidents or, you know, events, they call it.
00:40:50.000What the fuck happened to people falling over in the street?
00:40:52.000Yeah, well, maybe, but I mean, the thing about athletes is more interesting because these athletes obviously are in tip-top magoo shape and then they're running around this field.
00:41:01.000Well, if you're doing a soccer player.
00:42:12.000They know that people are scared, especially in LA. There's so many people that are terrified.
00:42:17.000That if you say something that is anti the narrative, when the narrative is vaccines are safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective, for the most part, yeah, for the most part, but a certain percentage of the people that take them get like a serious heart problem.
00:42:38.000If you work for a company that mandates the vaccine, Get a simple legal letter drafted that says, you know, I undersigned, assume all liability for this permanent and irreversible medical procedure as a requirement of the job of, you know, employee.
00:43:27.000Yeah, the CDC has an article that says a vaccination is, it used to say something like, it was very specific to the adenovirus vaccines, where a small weakened or, you know, dead virus is introduced.
00:43:41.000Now it says it's a chemical that triggers an immune response or something to this effect.
00:43:48.000They don't say that we're vaccinated, dude.
00:43:50.000Well, I know literally, but the monoclonal antibodies, according to a study, I think the CDC confirmed this, is eight months of protection at 82% efficacy.
00:44:01.000And that's actually better than Pfizer and Moderna.
00:44:03.000So if they effectively do the same thing, because that's how they describe a vaccine, then why can't I stand vaccinated?
00:44:09.000Well, you know, they're doing that to people, what you're saying.
00:44:12.000They're doing that to people who did not test positive for COVID. So imagine you're in a high-risk job, but they can give you the monoclonal antibodies with no COVID in your system at all, and then you have this immense protection.
00:44:52.000When brought to you by Pfizer, the idea that that doesn't have any impact whatsoever in the way they talk about the news is fucking absurd.
00:44:59.000And that's why they don't care if you have better protection naturally.
00:45:08.000One of my biggest pet peeves, I guess, is because, you know, on my show, for instance, we have this argument all the time about efficacy and vaccines and stuff.
00:45:15.000And I got to a point where I was like, yo, are we going to actually debate the policy, the politics?
00:47:02.000So I don't I, you know, when the FDA approves a drug to treat weaponized smallpox, you have to ask yourself why they fear smallpox if it's been eradicated and only exists in government facilities in the Russia and U.S. And why is Bill Gates warning about smallpox terrorism?
00:47:39.000BioNTech, September 2019. So he invested a large sum of money in the company that manufactures these vaccines literally when the pandemic broke out in Wuhan.
00:47:53.000Like when the first cases were seen in Wuhan, they believe they'd narrowed that down to September of 2019. That is specifically when Bill Gates Dumped a bunch of money in there.
00:48:05.000BioNTech announces new collaborations to develop HIV and tuberculosis programs.
00:48:14.000The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation invests $55 million in infectious disease collaboration that could reach up to $100 million in total funding.
00:48:23.000And they did that in September right before the shit hit the fan.
00:48:29.000Now, does that mean that he had information that there was a breakout?
00:49:26.000Because if you have 100 million people and you have 100 million doses of vaccine and you force these people to take that, that's just sheer profit.
00:49:48.000So actually, you know, self-promotion, we just published an exclusive on timcast.com.
00:49:55.000Fauci had been funding, or I should say the NIAID has been funding maximum pain research on primates in, I believe it's an island off South Carolina, where they basically induce as much pain as possible to see how these animals react.
00:50:22.000We have greatly benefited from animal experimentation to a horrifying degree as what we do to these animals.
00:50:28.000And a lot of people are happy to just live their lives and not knowing anything about it.
00:50:33.000I wonder what impact it will have now that we're discovering pain research and bot fly research on beagles or whatever.
00:50:40.000Is that going to result in people actually saying, you know, we would rather have less scientific progress on these things if it means we're not torturing animals to this degree?
00:50:49.000Well, the thing is, there's not a lot of oversight, so people don't hear about it.
00:51:12.000You know, someone has to be a whistleblower.
00:51:14.000But meanwhile, the studies are ongoing.
00:51:16.000So it's not like there's clear oversight and it's not like the public gets to vote on what they think is ethical or what they don't think is ethical.
00:51:24.000When they think that studies need to be done in order to prevent some sort of an outbreak or save people from something, and then they do these studies, whether it's on primates or beagles or whatever, you really don't hear about it until after it's happened.
00:51:44.000I mean, obviously, we can't just turn off the spigot on the system we have and then say, hey, everyone in the world should get this new vaccine we've been given to This is universal flu vaccine they're talking about.
00:51:56.000In order to make the transition from getting out of the tried and true Egg growing, which we know gives us results that can be,
00:52:13.000I mean, we've done well with that, to something that has to be much better.
00:52:18.000You have to prove that this works, and then you've got to go through all of the clinical trials, phase ones, phase twos, phase three, and then show that this particular product is going to be good over a period of years.
00:52:33.000That alone, if it works perfectly, It's going to take a decade.
00:52:38.000There might be a need or even an urgent call for an entity of excitement out there that's completely disruptive, that's not beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes.
00:52:52.000So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza and it's going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say, I don't care what your perception is, we're going to address the problem in a disruptive way and in an iterative way,
00:53:11.000But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere.
00:53:19.000We could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers, if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines on a patch and self-admitted.
00:53:50.000Trying to trick people into or convince people into taking these things and to be disruptive and to say, you know, we're gonna...
00:53:59.000I mean, it's just the admission that to do it correctly takes 10 years.
00:54:05.000That's why the emergency use authorization was required to get this vaccine promoted so quickly.
00:54:12.000In any other circumstance, something that's this controversial and then also something that has caused this many deaths would have been pulled off the market.
00:54:21.000If there's any other pharmaceutical drug that killed, I mean, what does the VAERS report say currently?
00:54:29.000Like, what's the number of deaths that are attributed to the vaccine today, currently?
00:54:33.000I've heard 17,000, but I don't know if that's true.
00:55:04.000The one thing to consider is what I call the scaling problem.
00:55:07.000If we give out 330 million vaccines and 17,000 people die, it sounds like a decently high percentage to be like, holy shit, maybe we shouldn't do that.
00:55:24.000So the way I usually explain it is if you give out 100 smartphones to a bunch of celebrities and 1% fail, one celebrity says my phone broke, nobody bats an eye.
00:55:35.000You give out 100 million smartphones and 1% fail, the same margin of error, you now have a million people online posting how their phones are broken and people will perceive that as a very serious threat or the product is not good.
00:57:18.000So Locals was started by Dave Rubin, and I'll probably get some of the details wrong, because I'm not trying to get it wrong to disparage Dave or anything, but Patreon bans a bunch of people, and abruptly, and it scares people because Patreon is where podcasters and personalities get subscription revenue to live their lives.
00:57:37.000So Dave announces he's starting his own version, which will, you know, you'll control your data and you'll control your rules.
00:58:09.000I fully respect enterprise, free market capitalism, and that Dave's perspective was, if people need a service, I will provide it and make myself some money and sell it.
00:58:21.000I believe that the immediate approach should have been, when this problem occurred and people were getting censored, a decentralized technology that is uncensorable that we give to the people for free.
00:58:30.000I understand it's not easy just to make free things, but my immediate reaction was to start a non-profit, which we have, called the Ahn Foundation.
00:58:37.000Where we have been building out a decentralized, open source networking technology.
00:58:43.000We will give you the program to install on your own server or a hosted server, whatever you want to do.
00:58:48.000You press enter and boom, you have your own subscription website instantly.
00:58:53.000We are streamlining it for free because I look at it like if the powers that be in the elites can control our thoughts and control what we have to say...
00:59:02.000Creating a new Patreon won't solve that problem.
00:59:04.000Right, but isn't Rumble committed to free speech?
00:59:07.000That is basically the premise of their platform.
00:59:10.000And then they sell to whatever company or the leadership changes.
00:59:16.000But the issue I see here is there is a weakness that can strip away the rights of the people...
00:59:21.000Through private centralization of these platforms.
00:59:24.000And so my view as someone who leans more towards decentralized authority and it's more of a lefty position is I'm not going to profit off of the fact that people are having their ideas and they're censored.
00:59:39.000Because it seems like an opinion of people that just don't want to be controlled by any kind of corporations.
00:59:45.000There's a – decentralization absolutely exists on the right.
00:59:48.000If you're like an anarcho-capitalist or libertarian, you believe in free market solutions.
00:59:52.000So it's not fair to say universally just like, oh, the left is more for decentralization.
00:59:57.000But it's more so like a – I believe all of the people should hold in their hands the keys to the software to never be censored versus a private enterprise can make it and then sell it.
01:00:09.000So that's more of like, yeah, we had a big conversation.
01:00:12.000Look, all due respect to locals and to Rumble because I think it's absolutely phenomenal they exist.
01:00:50.000I believe he got a big round of funding.
01:00:51.000You think these investors, wherever they're from, are going to be like, we appreciate that the white nationalists have found a new home base on his platform.
01:00:57.000Is that the slip Because when the ACLU was established, one of the things that they did initially was to defend Nazis and the ability that Nazis have for free speech.
01:01:07.000And that was a big controversial point because a lot of people were like, why would you ever defend Nazis?
01:01:16.000And their position is that we are not defending Nazis' position.
01:01:19.000We are defending their ability to speak.
01:01:22.000Because if you do not defend their ability to have free speech, then it will not be available to everybody else as well.
01:02:25.000So they break into James O'Keefe's house early in the morning and, you know, like full-on FBI raid and they go through all of his information and take his phones and they don't find it.
01:03:31.000To the New York Times, Veritas is in a lawsuit with the New York Times, and they've been winning and doing very well against the New York Times for defamation.
01:03:38.000Now, all of a sudden, the New York Times has access to Veritas' lawyers' emails, emails between them and their lawyers.
01:03:45.000How do you handle a lawsuit like that now?
01:03:47.000When you say they've been winning, how have they been winning?
01:03:51.000It's very difficult to get beyond a motion to dismiss in a defamation case, especially when you're a high-profile public figure.
01:03:59.000The judge sided with Veritas and they moved past.
01:04:04.000So it's actually moving forward, meaning they move to Discovery next, where they get to take New York Times journalists, sit them down under oath, and have them answer questions on camera and in front of lawyers.
01:04:15.000The New York Times filed a stay to temporarily halt that process, and a judge agreed, said, okay, we're going to stay the Discovery and we're going to postpone this.
01:04:24.000Then the FBI raids Veritas and gives Veritas' legal communications to the New York Times.
01:04:38.000This is one of the most terrifying things I've ever heard happen in this country for law enforcement to do, but I think it's worse than this.
01:04:45.000In October, at the end of October, an FBI whistleblower sent evidence that Merrick Garland and the DOJ were targeting parents concerned about critical race theory using counter-terror tactics.
01:04:59.000So this is a whistleblower at the FBI. We also know from the leaked communications that James O'Keefe was currently investigating.
01:05:47.000And Kevin McCarthy, by the way, not a fan, issued a letter saying, like, we want Merrick Garland under oath back in front of Congress because he lied.
01:05:56.000Because he said they weren't using counter-terror tactics on parents.
01:06:01.000Labeling people under specific terror terms in their databases to start.
01:06:06.000There was a letter issued that basically referred...
01:06:09.000First, there was a letter issued that said the parents who are going to these meetings and who are protesting the stuff are committing low-grade terrorism or something that affects America.
01:06:17.000But do we know that if there's something, some specific allegations or accusations outside of them just going to these board meetings?
01:06:26.000Is it possible that these parents are threatening these teachers in some sort of a...
01:06:49.000The New York Times made reference to the fact that James O'Keefe was conducting investigations into the FBI, and the legal communications in question they got access to was James O'Keefe's team asking the lawyers, to what extent are we allowed to secretly record federal law enforcement?
01:07:05.000And they said, woof, dangerous territory.
01:07:35.000The fact that the ACLU, these other Trevor Tim of Free Press, that they're going to come out and say, what is the FBI doing to rate a journalist over a journalistic activity?
01:08:27.000Well, I mean, they're a strange organization in that so many people hate them and so many people are willing to throw out the idea of protections against journalists because they say these are not journalists.
01:08:43.000You know, like Glenn Greenwald had a very interesting piece on that recently where he was talking about how the same arguments that they use with James O'Keefe, regardless of whether or not you like James O'Keefe or appreciate Project Veritas or whatever, The same arguments that we're using with Julian Assange, the same arguments they're using with Edward Snowden and with Glenn Greenwald as well,
01:09:01.000and many other journalists that they decide they don't like their conclusions, or they don't like their perspective.
01:09:08.000And with James O'Keefe, James O'Keefe is clearly a right-wing guy, and he's coming at this from a right-wing perspective.
01:09:16.000I feel like if someone had been doing the same thing from a left-wing perspective and exposing like real problems, like some of the problems that he's exposed are absolutely real problems, like a shadow banning on Twitter,
01:09:33.000censoring of conservative thought, like all the stuff that they do.
01:09:38.000Explain what he found out about Epstein.
01:09:41.000Veritas published a video of, I think her name is Amy Rohrbach of ABC News, Caught on a hot camera saying, we had the Epstein story three years ago and they shut us down.
01:10:16.000Mike Cernovich and the Miami Herald did a lot of work exposing and basically kicking off that whole Epstein thing, but Veritas exposing how ABC News shut down the story.
01:12:04.000If you're a wealthy guy like Bill Gates, okay, who's now divorced because of all this shit, right?
01:12:10.000Divorced because of his ties to Epstein, and he's apparently got enough influence that they're kind of letting him slide off of this investigation.
01:12:18.000You're not hearing a lot of talk about it, but when you're a guy like that, and you're married in particular, like how do you, you know, if you're a freak, And you wanna bang girls, like how do you do it?
01:12:33.000So if you're a guy also that is a really wealthy guy and you enjoy all this power and you enjoy all this influence and you're so much different than regular people, you're on yachts and you're hanging around with the global elite,
01:12:50.000And they just have girls come up to you and start talking to you.
01:12:54.000You're probably like, well, this is like part of the privilege of my job.
01:12:57.000Part of the privilege of who I am as this guy worth a hundred billion dollars.
01:13:02.000That, you know, people will come up to me and we're all drinking champagne together and this guy, Epstein, assures me everything's fine.
01:13:26.000I had a tweet when Epstein stuff was coming out with the documents out of the Miami Herald and Mike Cernovich's case, and I said, you know, Bill Clinton flew on this plane.
01:13:35.000Someone screenshot it, put it on Facebook, and one of these fact checkers claimed it was fake news.
01:14:30.000You know, we were talking about this yesterday, I believe, that guys from gun manufacturers were talking to me about how, during the election, people started going through their pages and pulling things from eight, nine years ago and banning them.
01:14:46.000Because they were worried that a lot of these, whether it's gun manufacturers or very influential right-wing groups, could have an effect on voting.
01:14:56.000So even if they have an effect, like say if there's a gun manufacturer or some sort of a big right-wing site that has a million followers or a half a million followers, and then they put out something that impacts someone who's on the fence.
01:15:11.000Like maybe there's a guy who's kind of centrist, but he believes in some right-wing thing, so he follows a few right-wing people.
01:15:44.000Trump was not an establishment player for all the good and bad, and Alex was massively supporting the guy.
01:15:51.000They didn't care about- Oh, Trump was certainly an establishment player.
01:15:53.000I mean, he was an establishment player in terms of the left and the right dynamic that we're accustomed to, but in terms of being a big name that the public was aware of.
01:16:10.000He is still one of the massive powerful elites, but he came from outside the political infrastructure where they kind of control things, where you play ball, where they have the super PACs, and he steamrolls through it.
01:16:24.000Well, it's either him or it's going to be someone who is a more moderate Republican like Ron DeSantis.
01:16:31.000I think the DeSantis, like when you look at what happened in Virginia, how they won Virginia with a Republican that's like a reasonable person, and then that woman, the crazy thing was like calling that woman, who's the lieutenant governor, the black woman, calling her the, they were calling her,
01:16:46.000they were saying that when white supremacy voices come out of black mouths, I was like, what the fuck?
01:17:21.000There's real people to think that someone is better or worse Based on the amount of melanin in their skin and based on the geography where their ancestors came from, it's fucking crazy.
01:17:33.000But it's not that lady that's the lieutenant governor!
01:17:39.000But because she's sponsored by the NRA, And because she's a pro-Second Amendment woman.
01:17:45.000I mean, I don't know what other reasons they have to say that this lady supports white supremacist ideas, but it's so crazy.
01:17:52.000It's very clear that what the official narrative on white supremacy is, the phrase is, they're trying to interchange liberty or classical liberalism with white supremacy.
01:18:28.000What percentage of those states are constitutional carry?
01:18:32.000Constitutional carry means that you could have a concealed carry weapon, and you don't have to go through courses, you don't have to do anything.
01:19:06.000And the sheriff has said very specifically that the reason why they're doing this is a large uptick in crime and the defunding of the police department.
01:19:14.000And the fact that it's not just the defunding of it, but they've declawed the police department.
01:19:18.000They've taken away their ability to enforce these laws and regulations.
01:19:22.000I'll tone down what I said and correct.
01:19:24.000I think we're looking at shall issue states.
01:19:28.000So you have, I think the majority of states, and again may be wrong, but are shall issue or constitutional carry.
01:19:34.000Shall issue states mean if you apply, they have to give it to you.
01:19:38.000You look at a place like Hawaii, New Jersey, and parts of New York, and they claim their may issue, where they'll decide, but they're actually called, in practice, no issue.
01:19:50.000Well, I know people who've gotten concealed carry permits in New York City.
01:20:26.000I think the Supreme Court case has to do with people from New York State who have a concealed carry permit and the fact that it's denied in New York City.
01:20:34.000And that it's instead of a state issue, it's a...
01:20:39.000I'm pretty sure that what's going on in New York State is...
01:20:43.000There's some sort of a lawsuit about people that have a concealed carry permit in the state, so people from, like, say, Rochester or maybe even a more rural area, that they can't carry in the city.
01:20:56.000I know there- I know there was a lawsuit where they basically said the idea of may issue is where you apply and they say give me a good reason why you need a gun.
01:21:07.000And if you don't have a good reason as we decide we will not give it to you.
01:21:11.000I know there was a lawsuit about that saying I have a right to keep and bear arms so if I apply you have to give it to me.
01:21:19.000Maybe we're talking about two different cases?
01:21:22.000I think we're talking about what I had heard was that there was a case from upstate New York where people were trying to figure out why their concealed carry in upstate New York does not work in the city.
01:23:27.000They gave me bullshit information on how to get a gun.
01:23:29.000So a few months go by of me confused like what the fuck is going on until finally I figured it out and it was not easy to get my firearm license which allows you to only get certain weapons that you keep in your home and never leave.
01:24:53.000Yeah, when people get their homes broken into in a state like that or a city like that, that, like, clearly is not protecting people's ability to defend themselves, which is crazy.
01:25:03.000If someone's breaking into your home and threatening to cause bodily injury to you, it should be really clear.
01:25:11.000Like, you should be able to defend yourself, especially if you have a family.
01:25:14.000It's tough because, you know, so I'm in West Virginia now.
01:25:18.000West Virginia is known for being like, if you step on someone's property, they can perceive it as a threat.
01:25:23.000But it's not like you just kill anybody.
01:25:25.000But, you know, you still might get arrested even in West Virginia or Texas or Florida because, you know, there could be political pressure or there could be an argument that we don't actually believe it was self-defense.
01:25:37.000And that's why I think castle doctrine, hard castle doctrine and stand your ground is so important.
01:27:05.000And also, we can remember, and we were talking about this last night with Blair, There was so much fucking chaos in the air back then.
01:27:14.000If you go back to those riots, if you go back to the George Floyd protests and the riots, there was so much chaos in the air.
01:27:21.000There was cars being lit on fire, houses being broken into.
01:27:25.000I'll never forget there was this video of these people walking down the street protesting and they just threw a rock At the window of this house where people were looking out.
01:28:29.000I mean, that's what happens during these wild, chaotic moments of rioting.
01:28:36.000One thing that's really common among these left-wing activist groups, something that I covered when I was down on the ground at Occupy and all these other events, is there's a thing called the diversity of tactics.
01:28:45.000And the activist organizers often say, respect the diversity of tactics.
01:28:49.000What that really means is don't stop the violence.
01:28:54.000So, nobody's gonna care if a bunch of, you know, bleeding heart hippies are waving signs and marching through the street.
01:29:00.000For the most part, people might honk at them.
01:29:01.000The reason why they have to issue the warning telling people to respect the diversity of tactics is that when black-block, Antifa-type individuals or riders burn and smash things, they immediately turn to the peaceful people and say, you have to respect their diversity of tactics.
01:29:17.000That's what we end up seeing in a lot of places, but when you look at Rittenhouse, I think it's a case that's a really good example, What that really means is the criminal elements who are here for no other reason than to destroy because they're upset, they're unwell or violent are going to be allowed to do so.
01:29:30.000So there's two important things, notably in Ferguson, when I was on the ground covering those riots.
01:29:35.000It was local young black Ferguson residents linking arms to guard the liquor store where Michael Brown had stolen the cigarillos.
01:29:43.000It was out of towners who were ransacking and looting everything.
01:31:34.000I don't believe, based on the evidence, that he actually cared about Black Lives Matter.
01:31:39.000He was, I think, you know, they say he had just gotten out of a mental hospital, some say over a suicide attempt, I don't know.
01:31:44.000But the dude was yelling, shoot me N-word, at a kid with a gun.
01:31:47.000I think it's possible that this dude...
01:31:49.000Suicide by cop almost, or suicide by, yeah, enforcing people.
01:31:53.000This guy, I don't believe, actually cared about any causes.
01:31:57.000So when you have the facilitators, the organizers, say, respect the diversity of tactics, they're making space for criminal elements who just want destruction, damage, or to profit.
01:34:00.000Outside where he was looking at property that he was building something on and someone yelled at him.
01:34:04.000And then he went on his own radio show, I believe it was on Sirius, and said, this guy comes up to me and he's going to have words with me.
01:35:13.000So his arrest and case history from the State Department of Justice is much larger than you would currently find through the online court records.
01:35:21.000It shows a string of dismissed cases and an expunged felony conviction.
01:36:53.000Gage Grosskreutz travels from far away to where he knows there's violence.
01:36:56.000He brings an illegal gun and he says it's because he was an EMT who wants to help people.
01:37:01.000Kyle Rittenhouse travels across state lines from far away to where he's been accused of bringing an illegal gun where he knew there was violence because he wanted to be an EMT. We're good to go.
01:37:31.000He lives just on the other side of the border in what is effectively a suburb of Kenosha.
01:37:35.000He went there, not with a gun, but was given one by Dominic Black, which he was legally allowed to possess.
01:37:41.000So someone gave him a gun once he got there?
01:37:52.000I believe it's a straw purchase charge.
01:37:55.000Which means Kyle Rittenhouse testified that he gave the money to Dominic Black to buy the rifle so that once Kyle turned 18, he could possess it because he can't buy a gun under 18, but he can possess a rifle specifically.
01:38:09.000He testified the reason he didn't get a handgun is because he knows under 18 you can't have one, but you can have a standard rifle.
01:38:16.000So all this talk about, so you can break it down here, all this talk about him traveling across state lines with a firearm, that's not true.
01:38:23.000All this talk about him being in illegal possession of that gun, that's not true.
01:38:30.000He lives in Antioch, Illinois, and I believe the reason was he's originally from Kenosha, but his mom and his dad split, and so he stays with his mom about 20 miles away from Kenosha.
01:40:04.000The state had what they call unicorn evidence.
01:40:07.000It emerged, you know, two weeks ago, like in the middle of trial, they get this drone footage.
01:40:12.000It's high definition, but it's so far away from where Kyle is, you can't actually see anything.
01:40:18.000The defense makes the argument that the video shows Kyle Rittenhouse pointed his gun at the Zeminski's, this is the guy who had the gun and fired in the air, and then Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse in defense of others, such that Rittenhouse provoked him to attack him, and then Rittenhouse led him to the parking lot where he could shoot and kill him.
01:40:36.000Because of this footage, the prosecution was able to get a jury instruction on provocation, which means the judge said to the jury, if you believe that Rittenhouse provoked him, He cannot be found to have been acting in self-defense.
01:42:20.000My understanding is that it, I don't know how, but Rakeda Law, they've been doing this big live stream, played both videos, and you can see it.
01:42:27.000Now, when I first heard this, I said, how would you not realize that the video they're playing in court was a higher resolution than what you had?
01:42:35.000So I actually, on my TV, played comparable resolutions, and when you're looking for it, you can see it, but when you don't realize it...
01:42:48.000And so what happens is this disadvantage to the defense in their ability to watch the video and actually say, look here, Kyle Rittenhouse's arm is pointed in this direction.
01:42:58.000By getting the low res video, I don't know what I see.
01:43:00.000The prosecution is going to argue something and we can't form.
01:43:03.000So what they did was the defense argued you can't use CGI imagery in a court case.
01:43:09.000But they were unable to accurately explain to the judge why it was CGI. So the judge said, I don't know what you're talking about.
01:43:41.000He shows a side-by-side from evidence of the enhanced version and the regular version, and you can clearly see it looks like one of those Google deepfakes of weird nothing.
01:43:54.000When you look at the real image, it's low resolution and blurry.
01:43:57.000When you look at the prosecution's evidence, there's two signs, a faded large and small sign over each other because the computer program can't actually enlarge or enhance.
01:44:13.000Like Google deepfake AI technology or whatever, it just duplicated the signs over each other, and people have referred to it as the signs being raptured, because its ghost is being pulled from its body.
01:44:25.000They used that to argue, and get this, they argued.
01:44:28.000Kyle Rittenhouse puts down a fire extinguisher, within a split second, takes his gun off, flips the strap, points with his left hand at the Zeminsky's, then runs, and while he's running, takes the strap off, flips it back to his right hand, turns and shoots Rosenbaum.
01:44:42.000When the defense objected, saying he's facing the wrong direction, the prosecutor immediately goes, that's an argument.
01:44:49.000And the judge says, that's an argument.
01:44:51.000Meaning, in closing, it was a closing argument, so you can just rebut that if you want when it comes up.
01:44:58.000It's remarkable that the state was allowed to introduce this.
01:45:02.000And it's unfortunate because the defense, look, they're boomers.
01:45:05.000They didn't understand the technology.
01:45:07.000Richards in the defense said, they use a 3D AI logarithm to predict imagery.
01:45:23.000It's from two weeks ago at a crime lab in Kenosha, from, you know, the police crime lab, not from the night in question.
01:45:28.000If that still got to the point where they brought in the expert, and they did, this guy James Armstrong, I would have asked the expert, this image you're presenting to the jury, when was that image created?
01:45:38.000And he would say November, you know, October 30th, 2021. Probably if he said it that way.
01:46:26.000I think they're actually watching the video in HD. They were going back and forth about, like, was there a compression error with the email being sent?
01:46:45.000A white guy shooting white guys, and then there's so many Black Lives Matter people that have a vested interest in this guy being found guilty.
01:46:54.000You know what's fascinating is, right now, I like using civics for polling because they have a long track where they show you real-time polling throughout every time they implement the poll over years.
01:47:20.000So I tell people, man, the violence really makes you lose politically.
01:47:26.000And if they kept it peaceful, they would own politics right now in this country.
01:47:30.000I know, but that's what the crazy narrative is that the peacefulness doesn't work and that you have to, you know, crack some eggs to make an omelet.
01:47:40.000Well, the thing is, like, it doesn't work when it comes to polling, but it does work in terms of, like, people placating, people giving in to it, people that are scared, especially liberals.
01:47:52.000Like, liberals in the sense of, or in the face of that kind of violence, immediately show that they're in support of those people.
01:48:01.000So they'll show they're in support of the violence, they'll show they're in support of Black Lives Matter, and they'll do it because they're cowards.
01:48:07.000And they'll put it on their Instagram, and they'll put it on their Twitter, and they'll do it publicly to virtue signal and let everybody know that they're on the right side.
01:49:00.000The easiest way to rig an election, like, they've shown, like, when you talk to experts in election results and the ability to manipulate, they say that the most vulnerable aspect is mail-in ballots.
01:49:15.000I do not believe there was sufficient voter fraud to give Donald Trump a To have stolen the election from Trump.
01:49:24.000I believe Biden won because rules were changed because of universal mail-in voting, advantage to Democrats.
01:49:30.000However, in North Jersey, there was a huge story where the courts basically ended an election after the fact, nullified it, and ordered a re-election because they discovered bundles of mail-in votes from different areas, like in one mailbox.
01:49:48.000I have to pull the story, but there was like 30% of the ballots were like, signatures didn't match and stuff like that.
01:49:55.000Now, in the governor race in New Jersey, and I'm not saying that he lost because of voter fraud, but there was a report from Northern Jersey, 100% reporting Republican victory, and then overnight,
01:50:44.000You don't want people to go to an official polling place and run the risk of catching COVID. That's true, but before, it was in October of 2020, Pennsylvania, Republicans passed universal mail-in voting unconstitutionally Before there was an outbreak of anything.
01:52:17.000I mean, when you get 10,000 postcards dumped on a congressperson's desk, it plays a role.
01:52:25.000So when we would do fundraising, the crazy thing was I would get people to give over their credit card information, sign up on the street for Greenpeace.
01:52:37.000For the short stint I was there, I was one of the top in the nation walking up to a stranger and within a minute getting their credit card and writing it all down and walking away.
01:52:46.000When you see, when you knock on a door and someone says, you know, hey, you know, what's going on?
01:52:51.000You say, we want to make sure everybody's voting.
01:53:02.000But if it's 1 in 10, it's 1 in 10 for Republican, Libertarian, you know, Democrat, whatever.
01:53:07.000If the Democrats have the ability to use population density in that regard to their advantage, universal mail-in voting as a function is just advantaging Democrats over Republicans.
01:53:32.000Even the concept of voter fraud, it just removes so much enthusiasm people have for the process if they really think that there's fuckery going on.
01:53:41.000It makes some people angry, but for a lot of people, it almost makes them apathetic.
01:53:44.000Because it makes them just feel like there's no hope.
01:53:47.000Well, that's why my personal belief is that the Trump narrative around fraud, about how he really won, is actually meant to just destabilize the populist movement.
01:54:06.000Well, whether he fell for it or not, whether he really believed that he had the kind of influence—I mean, when you're the president of the United States for four years, and you're actually getting a lot of good things done— He's getting a lot of good things done in regards to trade, in regards to some of the impacts it's having on businesses.
01:54:24.000And then the COVID hits, the shit hits the fan, everything's falling apart, and then he loses the election.
01:54:31.000And he's still of the mind that he has all this influence.
01:54:35.000And he probably thought he could get people to overturn the election or change the election.
01:56:38.000So they make states where there's like borderline states or where there's states where they're, you know, could swing one way or the other.
01:56:46.000And they make those more accessible to illegal aliens.
01:56:53.000It takes the census, which I believe is every 10 years, right?
01:56:56.000I don't know which states they're doing.
01:56:58.000I'm not saying there's a conspiracy to do it, but it is true that if you look at the illegal immigrant population per state, you can calculate how many electoral votes they'll get.
01:57:13.000If they pile into urban centers, then what will happen is, say, Austin will have to expand and produce a couple more districts, a couple more congressional seats.
01:57:23.000Then Texas will get more electoral votes.
01:57:26.000It won't give them the power to turn Texas necessarily into a blue state for Texas itself, but it will give them extra electoral votes, which could make Texas a blue presidential state.
01:57:45.000It's almost they're overwhelmed by just the sheer amount of data, the sheer amount of information that you must have to have in order to make an informed decision.
01:57:54.000I mean, when you're going into the voting booth, how many people really know who the fuck these congresspeople are?
01:58:00.000How many people really know who's running for Senate?
01:58:06.000In, I think, New Hampshire, a trans-Satanist anarchist won the Republican primary for sheriff to prove a point, that people voted based on D or R and not on the candidate.
01:58:31.000They went in, and they saw a Republican, and they checked up the box and just voted for it.
01:58:35.000I also think the anarchists may have been running unopposed, so people were just like, you get my vote, but when they found out who they voted for, they got really, really mad.
01:58:45.000Not everybody, but some people were like, here we go.
01:58:49.000So what's next for the trans-satanic anarchist who lost her bid for Cheshire County Sheriff?
01:59:27.000Aria DiMezio, a transgender woman in her early 30s, has become a minor celebrity and the target of online attacks, vandalism, including homophobic slur, spray-painted on her car.
01:59:40.000And a write-in campaign to weaken her chances.
02:00:52.000If this vaccine injury thing gets really out of hand, and if this smallpox thing leads to something, or if there's any inkling whatsoever that some people who have financial motives want more people to get vaccinated or want...
02:01:08.000People get vaccinated that don't need it or if there's any kind of discussion about this.
02:01:11.000It'd be interesting to see if they decide to throw someone high profile under the bus to cover up their tracks.
02:01:18.000You see Fauci shaking when he was being questioned by Rand Paul?
02:01:22.000I mean, this is remarkable to me that Rand Paul holds up the study that says chimeric hybrid viruses manufactured and funded by the NIH, NIAID, and Fauci is like...
02:01:35.000We did not do that, and it's like, how?
02:01:37.000Well, the NIH has admitted they funded gain-of-function research, and then Fauci tries to change the definition of a gain-of-function means, and that's what he's doing while Rand Paul is questioning.
02:02:13.000The way he's talking though is very different.
02:02:16.000When Rand Paul said, he said, are you finally willing to admit, you know, that you were not telling the truth and that you did fund gain-of-function research?
02:02:24.000And he was trying to say the definitions as defined, like he just tries to skirt around what it is.
02:02:33.000It's almost like the term gain-of-function is a real problem.
02:02:36.000What he maybe should have said is, Did you fund the enhancement of virus research?
02:02:43.000Did you fund research that made viruses more contagious, more virulent, and more susceptible to the human population?
02:02:53.000They would have had to say yes to that.
02:02:54.000You can one up it and say, did you fund research on coronaviruses that originated in bats in China to make them infect lung cells?
02:03:08.000The problem is the term gain of function, which a lot of people don't know.
02:03:11.000And then, you know, Francis Collins, who's the head of the NIH, was on the Lex Friedman podcast and just said a bunch of shit that's not true.
02:03:45.000You know, in those kind of situations, like, Lex is fantastic when he's interviewing people about their field of study and asking them questions about, you know, their research or whatever.
02:03:57.000But when it comes to catching someone in a lie, you gotta be someone who can...
02:07:21.000He goes on TV, I think it was CNN, and he's talking about stuff like normal, and they ask him, now, Dr. Fauci, you say people should wear masks, but wouldn't it make sense if people wore two masks because that would be more effective?
02:07:33.000And he goes, yeah, it's common sense that two masks would be more effective.
02:07:38.000And then he goes on TV a few days later and they were like, so you advised people to wear two masks.
02:07:44.000And he goes, I did not, there is nothing saying to wear two masks.
02:07:47.000And then a few days later the CDC comes out and says people should wear two masks.
02:07:50.000I feel like a lot of this advice came from just like winging it.
02:07:55.000They banned their two masks thing though.
02:08:44.000Right, but are they enforcing it in terms of like, you know, New York City has a vaccination mandate where you have to have a vaccine in order to go into restaurants and bars and what have you, and gyms, I believe.
02:09:23.000And it's funny how the media doesn't know how to address this happening.
02:09:26.000I mean, the African-American community has a long history of distrust in the medical institution, going back to the Tuskegee experiment and a bunch of other shit.
02:09:38.000And it's funny, when African-American celebrities talk about vaccines, except athletes, like Charlemagne the God, and he had a conversation about it.
02:10:06.000Even Chris Rock was calling him a dumb motherfucker, which is hilarious because Chris Rock got vaccinated and then got COVID and was hospitalized.
02:10:14.000Meanwhile, there's a lot of people that weren't.
02:10:19.000It's like, how much of a protection did it provide you at a certain point in time?
02:10:22.000Because I think he got the J&J, and after six, seven months, whatever it's been, That's not doing much for you.
02:10:30.000It feels like they're trying to stuff us into the matrix because it's really hard to talk about the stuff, even in, you know...
02:10:49.000Are actual evolutionary biologists and biologists that are talking to science experts and they're very careful with their words.
02:10:56.000They're very careful with- they're not like us, we're just talking shit off the top of our head and wrong about a lot of things.
02:11:01.000These are actual experts, actual scholars.
02:11:04.000And when they discuss these things, they get demonetized and some episodes actually get removed, you know, depending upon who you are and what you talk about.
02:11:12.000If you have certain subjects get discussed that they decide are, you know, encouraging vaccine hesitancy or whatever, they just remove them.
02:11:23.000I consider myself to be a rule lawyer for these social media platforms, trying to make sure we figure out how you navigate a minefield.
02:11:29.000And so one of the things that's important, too, is The rules for, like, why Brett Weinstein gets a strike, you can't advocate for ivermectin.
02:11:37.000And they also say, you must inform, if you're talking about ivermectin, it's not FDA approved, and certain things like that.
02:11:46.000But it's hard to know because they enforce it arbitrarily.
02:11:49.000So, you know, I often just tell people, and I think it's true, I don't know.
02:11:57.000I certainly understand that if there are a lot of studies and there are talking about the efficacy of ivermectin, we should be allowed to have a conversation about it and give our opinions.
02:12:05.000I think it's also fair to say I'm not going to recommend anything to you.
02:12:08.000I had Peter T on my podcast, who's a doctor, and one of the things he said, he said, I don't like when information is being withheld.
02:12:17.000I don't like when they're trying to establish a narrative.
02:12:21.000He goes, all the information should be on the table.
02:12:24.000The information that shows what the vaccine does, it's good.
02:12:27.000The information that shows where it wanes, the information that shows vaccine injuries, all those things should be on the table and we should analyze all those things.
02:13:24.000And he's basically made—I think Bill O'Reilly's on the cover—but he made the argument in another article that Rachel Maddow is Bill O'Reilly.
02:13:34.000She doubled down on that fake Rolling Stone article about people having horse dewormer overdoses, and they were— Overwhelming the hospital in Oklahoma to the point where gunshot victims were not allowed to get into the emergency room.
02:13:55.000Not only did she tweet about it, but then she doubled down and defended her tweet based on, I think, calls to the Poison Control Center, which doesn't mean jack shit.
02:14:04.000Here's the call for the Poison Control Center.
02:14:15.000Yeah, but what Peter Atiyah said on my podcast the other day, the one that came out today, he said, the sheer number of people who have taken ivermectin is so overwhelming.
02:14:26.000There's been more than 4 billion doses handed out.
02:14:30.000And the amount of people that have actually had adverse injuries or things, it's like 20. Out of 4 billion people, I forget what the actual number is, it might be 28 or whatever the fuck it is, it might be 8. Whatever it is, it's a very, very small number in comparison to the 4 billion people.
02:14:49.000I don't understand how, you know, Rachel Maddow, she did the Russiagate stuff for years.
02:15:31.000But in that, whether you think I'm a moron or you're a moron or we're right or we're wrong, at least you know that if I'm saying something, it's because I've read some things, I've talked to some people, this is what I've seen, this is what I've read, here's my opinion.
02:15:49.000There's no fucking voice on high that's showing up with a clipboard and has a bunch of notes of things that I'm gonna discuss, talking points on the show.
02:16:33.000Get tested rarely or something like that.
02:16:36.000Well, that was the other thing about Biden's mandate, was that if you weren't vaccinated, you had to be subject to, I think it was weekly tests.
02:16:44.000Which I think people should be subject to anyway.
02:16:47.000If you're working in an environment where you could possibly spread a disease that really can fuck people up, Two things should be taken into consideration.
02:16:55.000One, you should have a treatment plan available to the people who work for you.
02:18:54.000The problem is when you say you either have to be vaccinated or test, the dumb thing about that is if you're vaccinated, you can fucking spread it.
02:19:35.000But if you're a conscientious business owner and you have a bunch of people working in the office and you don't want someone to spread it to other people, it is not hard to just provide tests for people.
02:19:44.000Yo, we had a COVID outbreak and I'm not going to say the names of anybody or anything like that, but some people just didn't really care if they were sick and going to spread it to others.
02:20:53.000Interestingly, also, one of the things that threw us for a loop was, like I said, we had four negative tests when the COVID outbreak started.
02:21:00.000So when I hear from everybody, like, four people got tested and said we're negative, but they were sick?
02:21:06.000You know what's interesting about the real estate agent, too?
02:21:14.000Yeah, a year later, a year after having COVID, I don't think her antibodies show up, which is wild.
02:21:19.000Because, like, she didn't have any symptoms.
02:21:21.000I wonder if when you don't have any symptoms and you test positive and for whatever reason the virus is just a low viral load on you or whatever it is, your body goes through it.
02:21:31.000It's enough to test positive, but not enough to generate sufficient antibodies.
02:21:50.000I don't think it's infringing upon your rights.
02:21:52.000And I don't think it's like forcing you to, you know, take some sort of a medical or be involved in some sort of a medical procedure or take medication that can be dangerous for you.
02:22:03.000This is why, you know, I go on rants periodically on my show where I'm like, why are we still having an argument about the science instead of the policy?
02:22:11.000Because for me, if a business says, we're going to give all of our employees vaccination whenever they want, ibuprofen, Tylenol, vitamins, we're going to test you if you want it, a free service provided to your employees, fucking awesome.
02:22:25.000By the way, ibuprofen is fucking terrible for you.
02:22:45.000And then I brought it up to Dr. Rhonda Patrick, and she sent me some studies that shows how much inflammation that stuff actually causes because it fucks with your gut bacteria.
02:22:58.000He stops taking ibuprofen completely and all the pain that he was taking ibuprofen for went away when he stopped taking it.
02:23:06.000Taking that shit was causing inflammation.
02:23:10.000So taking these non-steroidal anti-inflammatories was actually fucking up his gut bacteria and fucking up his body so bad that it was causing pain.
02:25:28.000But I did have a lot of mental clarity throughout the day.
02:25:31.000So for normal tasks, my energy levels are very consistent.
02:25:34.000But in terms of workout stuff, like if I was going to do rounds in the bag or heavy lifting or running, anything that requires a lot of explosive activity, man, I just got tired quicker, for sure.
02:25:48.000I was doing, accidentally, intermittent fasting.
02:25:52.000Not something I intended to do, I just, I wasn't eating breakfast.
02:25:54.000So I'd wake up, I would work, and then once I finish with my morning show, I'm like, oh, it's, you know, three o'clock, I'll eat.
02:26:09.000I would just be groggy and fall asleep and then wake up like, I gotta get ready for the show because we do the nightly show and I'm like chugging water trying to get back and then I would do the show and then when I started cutting that stuff out, I'm just energized all the time.
02:26:44.000If, like, we get together, like, a bunch of comics get together and we have, like, a comedian's meal, we go to Red Ash, this fantastic restaurant in town, and we'll all just pig out and, you know, bring plates of pasta and meatballs and lots of stuff with bread and gluten and garlic bread with bone marrow.
02:28:13.000But I said, I won't eat this, but all of the staff and all of our crew, they thoroughly enjoyed eating those donuts.
02:28:20.000When I work out afterwards, though, my God, I feel so weak.
02:28:23.000Like, when I have a donut like that, or a couple donuts like that, and then I go, okay, I've got to burn this off, and then I'll go work out.
02:28:30.000Like, everything is just, like, groggy and shitty.
02:28:34.000It's like I poured sand into the gears of my machine.
02:28:58.000The coordination, the energy, the clarity, I feel great.
02:29:01.000Yeah, most of what people are eating, especially in terms of bread and pasta and eating so much of it, it's just not good for you.
02:29:07.000And it's not bad for you all the time.
02:29:10.000See, the thing about bread and pasta and even some simple sugars, it's actually not bad to have them right after exercise because it restores the glucose in the muscles and it's not the worst thing right afterwards.
02:29:23.000But you just got to be cognizant of the impact That the food has on your body.
02:29:29.000And I think as you get older, you start thinking about that stuff more and more.
02:29:32.000You want to talk a little bit about NAD? Sure.
02:31:50.000Six segments, uploaded independently, followed by a two and a half hour show.
02:31:56.000So I do 22 minutes to publish at 10, 22 minutes to publish at 1pm, 32 minutes to publish at 4pm, and then we're live for two hours, and then we do a half an hour private members only segment for the website.
02:32:09.000So when you're doing these different segments, is it essentially just you going over the news?
02:32:16.000Yeah, the first two are more like a couple stories and then I just monologue.
02:32:22.000The third is more like a bunch of stories that I break down and analyze.
02:32:27.000And then the IRL show from 8 to 10 p.m.
02:34:06.000If the mainstream news has been painting this very distorted perception of this case, and this is what has affected and influences these people to riot, how much responsibility do they have?
02:35:00.000And that's, I think, that guy who is suicidal and those other guys, these Antifa guys, you're seeing it in a lot of those folks.
02:35:07.000They're very, they're without, for lack of a better term, they're fucking losers.
02:35:13.000They're losers at life, and then they pile on to these causes, and they jump in, and they dye their hair pink, and they light schoolhouses on fire, whatever the fuck they do.
02:35:23.000They're doing this impartial because it gives them an opportunity to rage, to rage against the machine, to rage against the system, to rage against what they feel like they could...
02:35:35.000They could describe as injustices, whether or not it's actually an injustice or not.
02:35:40.000But much like the band, they've now begun to rage on behalf of the machine.
02:35:53.000When I was a kid, I go to the skate park and people are spray painting, like, the system, anarchy, whatever.
02:35:57.000I go to the skate park and what I see, Black Lives Matter.
02:36:00.000And, you know, I was looking at some kids and then I was like, isn't it weird that you've got basically like a pro-corporate, friendly, family-friendly, corporate slogan?
02:37:19.000I just mean the guitarists, like the singer and the guitarist, how they tweet and their behavior and their pro-establishment, their pro-democrat.
02:37:57.000Well, I mean, that just shows you that really what you're dealing with is ideologies more than you're dealing with like a real firm commitment to morals and ethics and an established sort of framework of behavior.
02:38:11.000Instead of that, it's like these ideologies come along and they're basically like cults.
02:38:15.000And like if you're on the left, you support this.
02:38:18.000And then when someone comes into power that you decide the fascist, then they can justify all sorts of really Nasty ways of communicating about that person, body shaming that person, attacking that person physically if you find them.
02:38:31.000They support violence if it suits their needs.
02:38:34.000And it just shows you what's really going on more than it being their thing.
02:38:53.000It says, I am an anti-fascist that supports big pharma corporations teaming up with the federal government to finance and distribute a product that is made mandatory by law.
02:39:50.000But then what if someone says, hey, you forgot to order the thing for the show and then I... I don't want to be dealing with typing and stuff.
02:39:57.000So I open it up, I go to the site, and I got desktop.
02:40:21.000I wonder what the fuck's going to happen with phones in the future where they're going to be like these scrollable things where like, you know, you have like a tube and you just pull it apart and it makes it larger or smaller depending upon what your needs are.
02:42:20.000Yeah, like, I ask you a question and you speak what's spoken to.
02:42:22.000Do you feel that this intrusion that technology has in your life, do you feel like there's obviously a great benefit that we all enjoy from the technological innovations, but do you feel like it intrudes in your life?
02:42:36.000Do you feel like it's gotten to the point where you want to take active measures to try to disconnect yourself in some way?
02:44:17.000I was thinking back to the 1200s, and there's some dude leaving his wood log cabin in the winter with a sword and a satchel, and he comes across a small but angry bear, and he scares it off, and the whole thing takes place in 20 seconds.
02:44:31.000He goes back to the local eatery with the other people, and he goes...
02:44:34.000A great beast attacked me, and he describes this giant monster, and they draw a picture of a dragon, and there's intrigue, and there's mystery, and there's fear, but like, you know, reading these stories about the unknown Mothman and Bigfoot, I want the mystery, I want the experience.
02:44:53.000I live in a world of facts and news stories and verifying, but I love the UFOs, I love the unknown, I want to discover, but it feels like, and this is partially a misplaced feeling, It feels like we live in a world where discovery is so much harder because information is so rapid through social media.
02:45:12.000The truth is there's still a lot of things that are secret.
02:45:14.000There's still a lot of mystery that goes on and a lot to discover.
02:45:17.000But it's not the same as when I'm watching this movie in 1973. And you get this guy in the band, he stands on a garage, tripping on acid, and he goes, I am a golden god!
02:45:26.000And they all scream, and then he jumps in the pool.
02:45:36.000Instead of being this one magical moment that people have seen, but you can then write down, and then you can show people and say, here's the story.
02:45:46.000Well, there's something cool about mystery.
02:45:48.000There's something cool about the idea of this nostalgic time of living in a time where there was no cell phones and you could barely fax things.
02:46:01.000You're older than I am, but I remember being a teenager and getting my first cell phone, Candy Bar Nokia, and being able to text people changed everything.
02:46:19.000This way with no internet and no HD video and no video on demand and no ability to talk to your car and say, navigate to Terry Black's barbecue.
02:50:19.000And this is the thing for me, I'm spoiled.
02:50:21.000I lived in New York, I lived in Chicago, and I can tell you about some great restaurants in the big cities.
02:50:26.000The thing about West Virginia is we've got trailers on the side of the road.
02:50:30.000And some of the best brisket I've ever had is on the side of the road in Virginia.
02:50:35.000So I'm in the tri-state, but in Virginia there's this place, it's called Page's Rest Stop or something like that, and it's like a little farm stand.
02:50:44.000And they have a trailer with barbecue It is massively thick-cut, moist, delicious brisket, some of the best I've ever had.
02:50:51.000So when we're getting food, you know, there's some local places.
02:50:54.000I'm not going to pretend it's the best in the world.
02:51:10.000And I think there's something that happens to people when you have cities that are overflowing with population or people get annoyed at each other.
02:53:12.000Well, abuse of power, violating the Constitution as it pertains to the eviction moratorium and the vaccine mandates.
02:53:16.000But we'll put that aside because it's very, very charged.
02:53:18.000How about we talk about the Burisma scandal, where there are a dozen active investigations by Viktor Shokin.
02:53:24.000I'm maybe a little bit too in the weeds on this one.
02:53:26.000The Ukrainian prosecutor is investigating an energy company in Ukraine called Burisma.
02:53:32.000Joe Biden's son is placed on the board questionably.
02:53:35.000Like, what does he have to do with energy companies?
02:53:37.000There's also a former CIA guy who's on the board, by the way.
02:53:40.000Joe Biden goes to Ukraine and personally meets with the president and says, if you want a billion dollars in aid, fire the prosecutor.
02:53:48.000Now, he claims, and the mainstream story is that it's because the prosecutor wasn't investigating the corruption of a man named Mykola Zlachevsky, who founded Burisma.
02:53:58.000However, Zolachevsky, when Trump gets into power, flees.
02:54:04.000And when Biden comes back in, returns.
02:55:06.000If there's a certain criteria met, you don't own the money anymore.
02:55:08.000Now, if that money goes into Hunter Biden's bank account, but Joe has access to it, you've got a tax problem right there, don't you?
02:55:16.000Look, I've tried to help out my family, and I've talked to my accountant and said, you know, let me know to what extent I can provide for my family, my brother, sister, family, whatever.
02:55:26.000And my accountant's like, you gotta pay taxes on all of it.
02:55:28.000There's no just buying stuff for somebody.
02:55:30.000I'm like, then how does Hunter Biden share a bank account with his dad, taking millions of dollars, I wonder.
02:55:36.000Well, when you're that powerful, you don't got to worry about it.
02:55:39.000The darkness of that is one thing, but the fact that the media covered it because they knew that it would be damaging to Biden's campaign, that's where things get scary.
02:55:47.000And when I say the media, the media definitely didn't cover it.
02:57:05.000How would you rate the state of the economy?
02:57:08.000It's not good, but there's a lot of factors.
02:57:11.000There's certainly the shipping crisis.
02:57:14.000Certainly there's a shortage on a lot of things, like the manufacturing sector that has been shipped overseas is shown to be a huge problem when it comes to things like chips for cars, and there's a lot of things you can't buy right now that you used to be able to buy very easily and quickly.
02:57:55.000So you can actually see, this is interesting, during Trump's presidency, the Democrats believe, Democratic voters are polled, and this is from Civics.
02:58:03.000They believed that the economy was fairly good.
02:58:06.000Into the pandemic, as the economy got worse, Democrats started to feel the economy wasn't doing too well.
02:58:10.000So under Trump, it was, you know, kind of fair.
02:58:13.000It was like, well, you know, we don't like Trump, but the economy's doing all right.
02:58:15.000But then it tanks off through the pandemic.
02:58:18.000But when Biden gets elected, it spikes back up again.
02:58:53.000That says to me, you know, you take a look at Virginia, you take the election, the young kid, you take a look at New Jersey.
02:58:58.000I think independent voters—actually, I'm going to pause real quick.
02:59:02.000Pew Research put out a political tribes study, and they found that there is the ambivalent right, which where they categorize you or I, then there's like the Democratic— How am I ambivalent right?
02:59:13.000I'm left-wing on everything except for gun control.
02:59:17.000So they actually say the ambivalent right are not conservative, or they tend not to be.
02:59:23.000They're actually fairly progressive on a lot of issues, but critical of Democrats, opposing the establishment left makes you the opposite, I guess.
02:59:38.000But this is the point I wanted to make.
02:59:39.000They have a group called the stressed sideline, which is considered not left or right.
02:59:45.000However, the majority of those in what's considered the stressed sideline are center right.
02:59:50.000So when they plot them on a map from zero, then left and zero and then right, the middle of the road people who are not politically active are center right.
03:00:00.000Moderates, independents, Republicans, liberty-minded individuals are probably leaning towards right-leaning politicians and ideas and away from Democrats.
03:00:10.000So I think it says a lot for what's to come, but I also think it says that Democrats are tribal in their positions.
03:00:16.000What I'm hoping is that people realize the pitfall in being tribal, and then more and more people move to more of a kind of a centrist mentality, because that's where I think most people lie.
03:00:27.000Most people's beliefs are a conglomeration of both sides.