In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, Joe talks about some of the strangest things he's found in his life, including a Native American arrow head and a hat signed by Ted Nugent. Joe also talks about the time he killed a goose with a bow and arrow head he found on the Rouge River in Detroit, Michigan, and the strange rules about what you can and can't do with it. And, of course, he's got gifts for you, the listeners! Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends and family about this episode to get the word out about it! Joe's next episode will be out in a few weeks, so be sure to check it out! Enjoy the episode and tweet me with your thoughts! Timestamps: 3:00 - What's the weirdest thing you've ever found in your life? 4:30 - What would you do with an old arrow head? 5:15 - What s your favorite thing you found? 6:20 - What is your favorite piece of Native American artifacts? 7:40 - Is it yours? 8:00- What's your favorite gift you ve ever gotten? 9:00 What do you got? 10:30 - What are you looking forward to? 11:15- What s the craziest thing you ve gotten from someone else? 12:30- Is it your idea of a gift? 13: What s it going to be next? 15: Is it a gift from me? 16:15 17: What do I want? 18:40- How do you want me to take it back? 19:00 -- What s my favorite thing from you? 21:40 -- Who do you think I m going to do with this? 22:30 -- How do I m looking for? 23:00 | What s a good day? 24:00 // 22:20 -- Is it good? 25:30 | Can I have it? 26:00 & 27:40 | What is it a good thing? 27:20 | Can you give it back to me? // 27:00 +28:00: Can I keep it back or not? 35:30 & 29:30 // 30:30 +3? & 35:40 // 35:10 36:40
00:01:52.000And there was some Canadian geese on a pond, and we snuck in almost like Ishii, like Org from the year three, sneaking in through the reeds and the nasty shit.
00:02:04.000And I drew back and shot that goose, and it flopped all around.
00:02:07.000But we got that goose, ran to the fence, climbed over the fence, and took it home.
00:02:11.000I think it's amazing, but I would feel so nervous to lose one of those heads.
00:02:35.000Well, I think the idea is that it's an artifact and that you're supposed to just leave it there, which I don't understand, because either I'm allowed to pick it up and it should go to some sort of museum or something.
00:02:52.000I don't know where they would keep them.
00:02:53.000I would like to think that hand-me-downs.
00:03:26.000But for me, I mean, we were on a bow hunting trip.
00:03:30.000And to find an arrow and to know that someone, some Native American, had been in that same area hundreds and hundreds of years ago and, you know, hunting for their food to feed their family in that same ground.
00:03:44.000And then I had picked up a part of their weapon.
00:06:29.000So I bring you positive spirit and energy and attitude and goodwill and decency.
00:06:35.000I'm having the greatest hunting season of my life.
00:06:37.000I'm shooting some mystical arrows into some sacred pump stations.
00:06:41.000I'm getting a lot of venison donated to soup kitchens and homeless shelters and neighbors and making gifts to the band and the crew since we haven't toured and everybody is horny to unleash the musical beast.
00:06:53.000Yeah, that is a beautiful thing about that, the Hunters for the Hungry program.
00:07:05.000And if they don't bring it up, I make sure I do, because it needs to be promoted and celebrated in the face of stupidity, which, boy, I have a great story for you.
00:07:20.000So anyhow, when I do the media and I explain to them about venison, organic, renewable, nutritious, pure, natural, healthy, good, good, win, win, win, win, win, I never get any pushback.
00:07:34.000Not since the 60s and 70s where hippies pushed back.
00:07:38.000Because it's universally at least understood in its most basic truism.
00:07:47.000But whenever I bring up that the Hunters for the Hungry has been going on, Hunters for the Hungry, Sportsmen Against Hunger, various state organizations where they distribute natural harvested surplus venison to homeless shelters, soup kitchens, needy families.
00:08:03.000Even to Glenn Beck, he goes, 250 million hot meals a year?
00:10:50.000I know that sounds like a New York law, but it was in Texas.
00:10:54.000And when my buddy Johnson said, you can't pay me for gas, I go, well, it's got to be expensive, the helicopter, cross-collateralization, I can't pay you.
00:11:04.000And the game warden go, I hope you're not paying him to do that.
00:11:33.000Anyhow, so I called Governor Perry and I said, Rick, You've got to be kidding me, because everybody knows that wild hogs in Texas are an absolute scourge of a liability.
00:11:46.000You're craving systems by which we can reduce the population, and then you make the most effective solution illegal.
00:12:27.000That's why we created Hogs for a Cause charity, where we pick up the dead hogs, we process this organic pork, and we feed soup kitchens and homeless shelters.
00:12:42.000Well, then you share with me your last helicopter hog hunt where you hit the pigs every time from a moving helicopter and an erratically running hog.
00:14:03.000Don't you know if you really wanted to kill the most things possible, you would be a vegan?
00:14:10.000Because the plow and the disc kills everything preparing the field for your bean, your tofu.
00:14:18.000And then anything that might just be dismembered and slithered out of the way or the disk of the plow, then they come in with Mansanto and poison the shit out of them.
00:14:27.000Are you aware, Joe Rogan, that I was bombarded?
00:14:30.000And I understand that you heard from a lot of people that never thought of it that way.
00:14:34.000That the preparing of tofu is the most genocidal slaughter procedure available on planet Earth.
00:14:45.000Everything that interferes with the bean production.
00:14:48.000Well, last night on Yellowstone, a very popular series, Kevin Costner, playing the boss hog of the Yellowstone ranch, quoted me.
00:15:03.000Almost verbatim on that statement as he confronted some animal rights people on the show last night.
00:15:10.000And I have been bombarded lately with people going, Costner quoted you from the Joe Rogan interview when he confronted animal rights from hundreds of people who saw it.
00:15:21.000The producers, Taylor Sheridan, according to my son Toby, is a big fan of my defiant ballet, my defiance ballet.
00:15:48.000Well, maybe you should start thinking.
00:15:50.000The thing is, like, people think of animals dying as like a deer is like if you shoot a deer, you killed an animal.
00:15:57.000But they don't think that if you want to grow lettuce, you have to displace wildlife, you have to do what's called monocrop agriculture.
00:16:05.000And when you have thousands of acres of soybeans, for example, that's not normal.
00:16:12.000It's not normal for the ground to have only one plant for thousands of acres, and it's not sustainable.
00:16:17.000The only way they can do that is to kill everything that was there, and the amount of rabbits that they have to kill, gophers, groundhogs, birds, everything, snakes, turtles, voles, shrews.
00:16:29.000Anything that's ground nesting gets churned up in the wheels.
00:16:34.000They think of it as you're eating plants, but you can do it in a way where you're not going to kill anything if you grow your own.
00:16:41.000If you want to grow your own vegetables, you have your own garden, you do it organically, you compost all your waste, and it's possible to do, but most people are not doing that.
00:16:50.000Most people are a part of something that's awful, and most people who eat meat are a part of something that's awful too, and I think you and I will both agree that factory farming is fucking disgusting.
00:17:54.000It's in your DNA. And when you hunt, the first time I shot that deer and we were sitting there cooking and eating it over the fire, I knew it right away.
00:18:03.000I was like, okay, this is how you're supposed to eat meat.
00:19:03.000The surplus has to be utilized with reverence, i.e., garlic and butter.
00:19:09.000Revenue-generated, family hours of recreation.
00:19:11.000Well, how can you enjoy killing an animal?
00:19:13.000Because it's a challenge, because it's a fulfilling spiritual experience knowing that God created these beasts, much like the Aboriginal people put the hieroglyphics on the cave wall because they were desperate to adequately convey reverence for this beast that was difficult to get close to with a sharp stick.
00:19:35.000They had to dedicate themselves to a higher level of awareness, predator capabilities, reasoning predator, in order to kill it cleanly because the mastodon would kill them if they didn't kill it cleanly.
00:19:45.000And then that hunter brought not just food, food, clothing, shelter, medicine, tools, weapons, and more important than any of that—and I'm just a stupid guitar player, but I figured this out by the time I was 12— More important than the tools and the weapons and the food and the protein and the clothing and the shelters,
00:20:10.000which is what the bison and the mastodon provided.
00:20:14.000There is a sense when you're done of eternal spirit that this isn't just tangible physical stuff, that something else happens.
00:20:25.000Like you talked about around the campfire, chewing on a mule deer backstrap, when you teach your grandkids how to catch that fish and fillet that beautiful fillet off of that skeleton and fry it up and you eat it.
00:20:42.000Ballet, but it's equal as a spiritual ballet, because if you're a dirtbag, if you're a dunce, and if you don't care, you're going to have to hire somebody else to do it, and that's where the factory farming comes in.
00:22:05.000Yeah, diet is the most important thing.
00:22:06.000Isn't that funny that like all this healthcare talk, very, very, very little talk about losing weight and then making sure you eat good nutrition.
00:22:15.000Through this whole pandemic, it was an amazing opportunity for the government to say, folks, here is one of the most important things you can do for your immune system.
00:23:36.000Well, I would be interested in going to one of those things because, you know, there's a whole conservation effort to try to save those rhinos, and I think it'd be fascinating just to be around them and watch it happen.
00:23:46.000But, you know, there was a guy that I had on the podcast many years ago, Corey Knowles.
00:23:55.000He's a guy who, there was a big hullabaloo because he bought a black rhino tag for hundreds of thousands of dollars and people wanted to kill him.
00:24:03.000And he did a great job of explaining the money that he's spending to go and hunt this black rhino.
00:24:09.000First of all, they had to kill that rhino because that rhino was killing all the- It was a rogue.
00:24:54.000Honesty from CNN! Can I have a copy of It was just a video of it.
00:24:59.000But it's a very confusing thing to people that don't understand that the whole reason why the animals are thriving in Africa is because people want to pay to shoot them.
00:25:08.000And that's like, to a lot of people, that is a real problem.
00:25:11.000Like, they have a real problem with that.
00:26:06.000Because if you just donated to soup kitchens and you donated to any other organization that feeds the hungry, you'd have to spend a fuckload of money to get thousands of meals.
00:26:18.000They can get dented cans of beans, they can get four-day-old bread, but they can't get meat.
00:26:23.000So the majority of soup kitchens and homeless shelters, I work with Project Caritas in Waco, And we got butchers in Michigan where we donate whole carcasses.
00:26:33.000And again, I'm a sweetheart, but I'm not an idiot.
00:26:42.000But anyhow, that system regarding the rhino is a perfect example because it's so controversial.
00:26:52.000I killed a white rhino in South Africa in 95, 96. This rhino had killed three rhinos, ravaged entire agriculture operations, and had killed young elephants.
00:27:42.000But the money I paid for that rhino paid for years of salaries for anti-poaching squads to save the rhino.
00:27:52.000So my killing the rhino saved many rhinos and other wildlife.
00:27:58.000And the elephant that I killed in South Africa had already killed people.
00:28:02.000It came over from the Thule herd from Botswana across the Lampoper River.
00:28:09.000And had ravaged agriculture, destroyed villages, the elephant had to die.
00:28:14.000Now, that's not the typical scenario, not like the deer and the elk and the moose and antelope are threatening people, but they produce surplus.
00:29:11.000When I go to Whole Foods, or I'm at the Starbucks, or I'm in Mill Valley, north of San Francisco, people come up to me all the time that don't look like...
00:29:47.000Because the anti-education system has so efficiently dumbed down such a huge swath of our culture that I feel...
00:29:58.000Like I was just going to share, the gal from Starbucks in, is it Mill Valley or Valley Mills, north of San Francisco, confronted me and I just took a couple minutes to explain surplus and value.
00:30:32.000You have to ask them, does one animal equal, does one life, is one life equal, or are lives more valuable when they're big?
00:30:40.000And the beautiful thing about that environment, in that ultra-liberal environment, she is aware of the field, the field-to-table Restaurants in that area where they're getting these wild pigs and they're getting the permits to process them and deer meat and wild squirrels and raccoons.
00:31:20.000Explained with adequate evidence to support the explanation, I find that it's approaching 100% of the time those hardcore against it literally turn—I literally have seen this happen so many times— Oh,
00:31:42.000They always turn their head and they kind of wince and go, because they want to cling to the fantasy that they can save a life by not killing a moose.
00:31:51.000And within minutes, and I do this on our Spirit of the Wild show, you should see the bombardment of emails and correspondence I get.
00:32:00.000When I was on your podcast, Jesse James, who builds the guns and the hot rods here in Austin, he said, I fixed his daughters, who were viciously against him hunting and catching fish and not releasing them, until they heard the explanation of how many things die for a salad.
00:32:17.000And he said, they never heard it like that before, and quite honestly, neither did I. But I live this stuff.
00:32:24.000I see the seagulls and the crows behind me, and I see the slithering, dismembered creatures that the plow destroyed, and that's why the seagulls and the crows are following the tractor, to eat these wounded animals.
00:32:36.000Because in order to get a tofu salad, you've got to kill the shit out of a whole bunch of stuff.
00:34:12.000There's a lot of diseases that come from ticks, folks, and Lyme disease is the most notorious one, but this one from the Lone Star Tick, it has something called, it's like alpha-galactose, they're called alpha-gal for short, I believe.
00:34:25.000I don't know the exact term of the enzyme or whatever it is that it targets, but that is what is in meat, and when you eat meat, it makes you really sick.
00:35:38.000If you get the antibiotics, here's a great, here's a tick story for all you tick hunters out there.
00:35:42.000Because if you're hunting, you're going to run into them.
00:35:44.000If you're in the outdoors, especially spring turkey hunting, you're sitting on the grass waiting for a bird to come in, you're right there in tick epicenter.
00:35:51.000A friend of ours, two brothers in Jackson County, Michigan, this might have been back in the 70s, They both shot deer during the gun season, and when you gut the deer, you cut down the pelvic, and usually on the hams,
00:36:08.000on that white hair, you can see ticks, especially here in Texas.
00:36:11.000Well, they dismissed it because there wasn't much knowledge about that back then.
00:36:15.000Well, they both found ticks on themselves, and the one brother had another bronchitis Bronchial infection, so his doctor prescribed hardcore antibiotics to the one brother,
00:36:31.000but the other one didn't get the antibiotics, and the other one's in a wheelchair now because it metastasized and just crippled him.
00:36:41.000Yeah, my friend's son, he got Bell's Palsy, and he was only five years old.
00:36:46.000Half his face turned paralyzed, and it was fucked up for quite a while before it came back.
00:36:51.000Jamie, do me a favor and look that up.
00:36:53.000I want to make sure that I'm saying this right, this alpha-galactose from whatever the fuck it is.
00:37:11.000Alpha-gal syndrome is a recently identified type of food allergy to red meat.
00:37:15.000Other products from mammals in the United States are conditions most often caused by a lone star tick bite.
00:37:20.000The bite transmits a sugar molecule called alpha-gal syndrome.
00:37:24.000I think it's a shortened version of the real name, into the person's body.
00:37:29.000In some people, this triggers an immune system reaction that later produces a mild to severe allergic reaction to red meat, such as beef, pork, lamb, or other mammal products.
00:37:39.000Lone Star Tick is found predominantly in the Southeastern United States, and most cases of Alpha-Gal Syndrome occur in that region.
00:37:45.000The tick can also be found in the Eastern and Southern Central United States.
00:37:50.000The condition appears to be spreading further north and west, motherfuckers.
00:37:54.000However, as deer carry the Lone Star tick to new parts of the United States...
00:38:39.000He goes back in time, the doctor that was, the scientist that was studying this, and so they had been collecting blood samples on these deer for decades.
00:38:47.000So they went back a decade ago and there's none.
00:38:50.000And so this is a very recent thing that these deer, and they don't know how, whether it's from the captive cervid industry, you know, people come in contact with these deer, you know, when people farm deer.
00:39:03.000They don't know I don't know why and how, but that's one of the things that they're saying about these viruses, like this idea of stopping the spread of this virus.
00:39:10.000There's always going to be animal reservoirs, and it's almost impossible to stop a virus entirely.
00:39:18.000And that the best case scenario is the virus eventually mutates to a point where it's not nearly as dangerous.
00:39:24.000And they think that that's what happened to the Spanish flu.
00:39:27.000And they also think that that's what's happening currently with COVID, that slowly over time, it'll mutate to a point where it's not as dangerous.
00:39:35.000And they think that this new one in South Africa, even though everybody's freaking out about this new strain, what's it called?
00:40:34.000I think that's an interesting observation that is very indicative.
00:40:39.000But I hear from a bunch of outfitters, huge gazillion dollar industry, billions and billions of dollars that are generated in South Africa, desperately needed revenues.
00:40:52.000Some of the highest revenues brought into that country, not just South Africa, but whole Southern Africa.
00:41:03.000They're all shut down, and all the Safari Club International, Dallas Club Safari, Houston Safari Club, all these conventions that generate billions of dollars per convention, these guys can't come and put on their exhibits and can't book hunters.
00:41:18.000And a lot of people would dismiss it as an inconsequential industry.
00:41:36.000They think it was found there, and they've also found it in Brazil, they've found it in New Zealand, they've found it in a few other places, and they think someone who is a vaccinated traveler, because in order to go there you've got to be vaccinated, they think a vaccinated traveler went there like from Europe, because to travel from Europe I believe most of the countries you have to be vaccinated.
00:41:55.000They think that that's how it got there.
00:41:57.000That someone picked it up somewhere else, brought it to South Africa, and then in South Africa, it was identified.
00:43:52.000A real understanding of the consequences of what they're doing to these people that have literally had these businesses through their family for decades and decades.
00:44:10.000Like if you look at overall rationally, like if you look at the state of the country and what California did versus what Florida did, right now Florida has the lowest numbers of cases per day.
00:44:56.000I mean, except for times where there's these surges, where people love to capitalize on those moments and say, look, you're killing people, you're killing people.
00:45:04.000If you adjust for age, Florida has done as well, if not better, than any state in the country when it comes to what happens with this virus.
00:45:11.000They've shown over time that if you look at how this virus works, and if you look at the response to it, lockdowns don't help.
00:45:48.000No one cares about vitamins and vitamin D and the fact that at one point in time they measured, I believe it was 84% of the people in the ICU with COVID had insufficient levels of vitamin D. Sure.
00:46:42.000Talk about how important it is to take care of your health and drink a lot of water and lose weight.
00:46:47.000There was an article, a peer-reviewed study recently about what is happening with overweight people.
00:46:54.000That overweight people, one of the things that's happening with COVID and overweight people is that their body is not producing the antibodies correctly because of the fact that their body is so overweight.
00:47:09.000There's a process that goes on while you're obese that doesn't go on with a person who's lean.
00:47:14.000And that it's like a significant issue when it comes to your immune system and your immune system's response to COVID. And it's one of the reasons why so many people, at one point in time, 78% of the people in the ICU for COVID were obese.
00:47:28.000Well, the Nugent family is in mourning this year.
00:47:31.000We've lost some great friends, and most of them were dramatically overweight.
00:47:37.000The study showed the majority of COVID-19 patients with obesity make almost indiscernible amounts of neutralizing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies, suggesting that obese individuals may be at a higher risk to respond poorly to COVID-19 infection.
00:47:54.000But I think overall, before we even get into the minutia, I'd like to think that one thing we can accomplish, and you've done so in your podcast, and I salute you and thank you for that, is for people to focus on their lifestyles.
00:48:08.000What is Mr. Hand putting in Mr. Grocery Cart, and can you pronounce the ingredients, and is it really something you want your children to eat?
00:48:16.000There is a pandemic of blubber in this country that is just inexcusable.
00:48:23.000If it says diet or sugar-free, don't buy it.
00:48:26.000The best thing you can do is go hunting and have a garden.
00:48:49.000I think we talked about it on our first podcast together, that when I was growing up, this was known as the sacred temple.
00:48:55.000When I use that term to anybody under 50, they don't have the faintest idea what I'm talking about, just like the term tooth, fang, and claw, that nature isn't cuddly and cute, and it's not Bambi.
00:49:44.000If you open the door to your house, and we've had this happen, where our friends invite us to these beautiful homes, and they open the door to welcome us in...
00:54:00.000I was just on the phone with Billy Gibbons and he said that a fetus at conception If that Bo Diddley lick is happening, it will dance.
00:54:11.000So my point is that this right hand, if I jacked off, I'd pull my dick clean off because this right hand— You jack off with your left hand?
00:54:22.000I signed so many autographs and all these hats every day and all these flags, and I play my guitar every day, and I started with his god, Bo Diddley.
00:55:01.0001960. My band, The Lourdes, opened up for Billy Lee and the Rivieras, Martha and the Vandellas, and Gene Pitney, who had a hit song called Town Without Pity.
00:55:17.000Going on 12, my band the Lourdes opened up Billy Lee and the Revere.
00:55:20.000You were 12 and you were opening up for them?
00:55:22.000Yeah, when I was 14, I opened up for the Supremes and the Bo Brumbles at Cobo Hall because my band the Lourdes won the Michigan Battle of the Bands because we were bad motherfuckers for white boys, I'm telling you.
01:00:05.000So Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Little Richard, Jimmy McCarty, Billy Lee and the Rivieras, by the way, changed their name years later to Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels.
01:01:29.000But I'm always fascinated by the fact that, especially with guitar, that I can hear a few licks and I'm pretty sure I could guess who's playing.
01:03:46.000He was going to start a club, and it was going to be the debut of a new band called Sly and the Family Stone, their first East Coast performance.
01:03:57.000And the Amboy Dukes were in New York City recording Journey to the Center of the Mine.
01:04:29.000And so we were invited down, because there's going to be a Sly and the Family Stone debut, and we were on mainstream records.
01:04:36.000I don't know how they invited us, but my journey of this turn of the mind solo was really quite outrageous back then, because it was so melodic, but it was feeding back.
01:09:54.000There's a believability factor to that black influence.
01:09:58.000I had a tour years ago called Black Power, because every night on stage since the 50s, I've celebrated and thanked Chuck Berry and Bo Diddle and Little Richard and James Brown and Wilson Pickett and the Motown Funk Brothers.
01:10:09.000I mean, there is no music that means anything that wasn't inspired by a black guy.
01:10:13.000Name me music that moves you that doesn't have a black history.
01:10:17.000How much of an impact did Hendrix have on guitar players in this country when he came around?
01:14:02.000Keith Richards can fucking still wail!
01:14:05.000I spent two nights with Keith Richards at Studio 54 in New York City in 1978. Because I'm militantly anti-substance abuse, and he's militantly pro-substance abuse.
01:14:21.000It was just funny because he was a hero of mine.
01:14:24.000I mean, all my songs came from Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Bo Diddley.
01:14:28.000But remember the first Stones album, the British Invasion, Stones album, Beatles, Kinks, the Yardbirds?
01:14:34.000They all had Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, and Motown songs because that's what I was raised on.
01:14:40.000So I was playing that music before the British Invasion.
01:14:43.000And so when the British guys did it, and they did it such a good job because they so revered those artists, They presented the Chuck Berry songs, O'Carroll.
01:15:40.000So take that influence, which was a bombardment, unprecedented.
01:15:44.000And then take it all the way to Jimi Hendrix, and then the next chapter of guitar sucker-punching was Eddie Van Halen.
01:15:54.000And I've got to jam with all these guys.
01:15:57.000You name the best guitarists I've jammed with all of them.
01:16:00.000And to sit there—you don't sit there, you kind of dance there—and you're paying attention to what they express and how they unleash these note volleys and phrases and musical authority.
01:16:13.000It settles in your psyche, it settles in your soul, and it's like an arsenal of licks that you can do in your own way, but you're not afraid to do it the way they did it.
01:16:24.000And if you have a certain touch of your own, then it comes off as your signature style.
01:16:30.000That's what's always so fascinating to me is that out of all the notes that have been played, all the songs that have been written and sang and recorded, that there's still new ways to make a guitar well.
01:20:48.000So, I signed with Epic Records, 1974, Tom Worman, God bless him, Tony Reality, the engineer, Derek St. Holmes, Monster Forest, Rob Grange on bass, unbelievable, Cliff Davies, God rest his soul, on drums.
01:21:01.000I got this rock and roll band from hell.
01:21:04.000We're playing all over the country 300 nights a year.
01:21:07.000Cultivating this musical relationship with music lovers that love the dynamic and the crescendos and the experimental and the outrageous uncharted territory musical mayhem, but mostly the intensity of a Detroit piss-and-vinegar band, which I define.
01:21:22.000And so they signed me because they liked the songs.
01:21:25.000You got Stranglehold and Stormtroopin', just great licks, great song.
01:21:29.000Motor City Madhouse, just all these great songs.
01:21:34.000So we get in the studio, and we're setting up equipment, and they had heard Stranglehold, but they called a meeting.
01:21:41.000And I didn't know why they called a meeting, but the production company, the engineer, the management company, the band, the producer, all the record company, A&R, artist relations, all want to have a meeting.
01:21:52.000I go, all right, maybe we should have a meeting before we start recording to make sure it's like a team energy thing, like a pre-fight gathering.
01:22:50.000So there was a moment where those lyrics to that song, Stranglehold, came to fruition in a meeting where they all voted that it shouldn't be recorded because it's a long jam, nobody likes long jams, and there's no chorus.
01:25:37.000But Michael and Gunnar immediately grasped my emotion for Fred and what the song meant.
01:25:45.000And what you hear on the song that The Navy Seals play when they come home with flag-draped coffins and people bury their children or have an anniversary.
01:25:56.000The song, every day I get people testifying what the song Fred Bear means to them.
01:26:56.000They didn't know who Fred was, but they knew what it meant to me, and they put their heart and soul into that performance, and Gunner just died this morning at 67. Will you tell everybody who Fred Bear was?
01:27:09.000Because there's a lot of people listening to us that don't have any idea who that guy is.
01:27:11.000Fred Bear is the essence of American entrepreneurial man in the arena in the swirling dust of the Industrial Revolution, born in Pennsylvania in 1906 or thereabouts.
01:27:34.000And he moved to Detroit during the Industrial Revolution to be a wood carver for the FOMOCO, Ford Motor Company, making cabinets for the radios and the dashboards and the woodies, the vehicles.
01:27:49.000And he had become so proficient with the.30-30 that he was looking for more of a challenge.
01:27:54.000If he saw a deer with his.30-30, he'd kill it.
01:28:04.000But he was looking for something else.
01:28:06.000So he started making his own bows in the 1920s.
01:28:36.000Is going to make a good bow and then know what the resistance and the flexibility of those wood limbs will produce what they call cast, how it would cast an arrow.
01:28:52.000And so Fred Bear and Nels Grumley had a little shop in Detroit, and when they weren't making cabinets for their business, the FOMOCO and the radio industry, he was making his own bows, he and Nels.
01:29:05.000And it was catching on a little bit, but then up in Oroville, California, I think in 1908 maybe, they found an Indian cowering in a corral.
01:29:17.000And they determined that this was from the Yanni, Y-A-N-I, the Yanni Indian tribe.
01:29:23.000And back then, if you killed one of them, you'd get 25 bucks.
01:29:44.000So anyhow, so instead of killing this guy, they determined that his name was Ishii, and they wanted to study him.
01:29:51.000He's the last survivor of the Yanni tribe, Northern California, Oroville.
01:29:56.000I just heard a story in Oroville, California this morning on the radio.
01:30:00.000And I said to Rocco and Shemaine, I go, that's where they found Ishii.
01:30:03.000So this guy Ishii, his whole life was based on the bow and arrow.
01:30:09.000Getting close to game, taking a freezing river bath before the hunt to deserve an encounter with the beast that would provide life, food, clothing, shelter, tools, medicine, weapons, spirit, deep into the spiritual realm.
01:30:27.000And so the sheriff's department put him in a jail and they said, let's call some anthropologist or one of these scientist guys.
01:30:36.000So they called a guy named Saxton Pope.
01:30:43.000So Saxton Pope came down and tried to figure out what tribe and language and started communicating with Ishii, and then he called his buddy, Art Young, who was also a professor, I believe.
01:30:55.000I'm probably getting some of the details a little misconstrued here, but this was the proceedings that took place.
01:31:01.000And so they were so fascinated, they took Ishii out into his native lands in Northern California, And he showed them how their life pivoted on effective bow hunting.
01:31:15.000And so Saxton and Pope became fascinated—how could you not?—as their world was developing better ballistics for longer-range killing.
01:31:25.000Pope and Young went, yeah, this is fascinating, trying to get close to that Columbia blacktail with a sharp stick.
01:31:33.000Because there was already this maniac movement of sophistication, so they called it, away from the land and to be more cidified and more educated and have other people kill your shit for you.
01:31:46.000But they discovered there was something powerful about Ishii.
01:31:49.000Well, Ishii eventually died from white man's germs, as so many did.
01:31:57.000But Saxon Pope became dedicated to the bow hunting lifestyle.
01:32:03.000And they went on to go bow hunting in Yosemite and Yellowstone, went to Africa and hunted and filmed it all.
01:32:10.000And so meanwhile, Fred Bear and Howard Hill in California and Ben Pearson down in Arkansas were fancying bow hunting as a little sideline fun thing.
01:32:23.000Well, back then, the only vehicle of promotion for any given entity or endeavor were newsreels.
01:32:31.000And they don't go to the theater and play a newsreel on a trip to the Arctic in a boat or how to build a canoe.
01:32:38.000Well, Saxon Pope and Art Young created newsreels about this fascinating rediscovery of the mystical flight of the arrow and how to kill game with it.
01:32:50.000Port Orford cedar shafts that they'd have to heat up to straighten out by the eye, how to cut turkey feathers to fletch with a helical to steer the air.
01:34:03.000Les Paul hasn't even electrified the guitar yet, but my dad came back from World War II, and Fred Bear already had enough influence in Michigan that my dad became a bow hunter, and I still have his bow from 1945. So Fred Bear from working for the Ford Motor Company and then starting becoming a bowhunter had influenced so many people that young men in that area were taking up bowhunting for the first time.
01:34:49.000George Nichols in Michigan, owner of Jackson Archery, who Fred contracted to build Fred's Arrows because Fred was experimenting with the lamination invention of laminating thin sheets of foam.
01:35:03.000From fiberglass to thin sheets of woods to build up that beautiful recurve artwork.
01:36:42.000And these guys cut the entire state down with hand saws.
01:36:45.000But shockingly, not so much if you know a little bit about botany, what does that do?
01:36:52.000It lets the sunlight hit the ground and the habitat exploded to such supportability, such sustainability for wildlife that animals can only use what they can reach.
01:37:05.000And now this explosion of low growth provided sanctuary, shelter, thermal cover during the severe Michigan winters, and escape.
01:37:15.000And so the deer herd exploded in the 1950s.
01:37:57.000But I always shot my bow and arrow, so by the time I'm four or five, we're going north every year in the Ford Country Squire station wagon with our bows and arrows, and we'd stop in this town called Grayling and go to this little cinder block shack that said Bear Archery over the front.
01:38:14.000I still didn't know what was going on.
01:38:15.000I just knew that I loved bows and arrows, but in this little shack in Grayling, Michigan, We're lots of bows and arrows, and this tall, lanky guy named Fred Bear, who my dad would bullshit with, we'd go to the Graylin' restaurant and have chocolate milk and cherry pie, and by the time I was seven or eight, it registered.
01:38:32.000Holy, this is the guy in the cover of True Magazine with a polar bearer?
01:38:37.000This is a guy, an American sportsman, eventually, with Kurt Gowdy shooting moose and caribou and hunting with the Maharaji and shooting chittle deer and nil guy on the estate of the Indian ruler.
01:39:19.000I was put in charge of sparrow control with my Daisy Red Ryder BB gun in my garage because the sparrows were shitting on the country squire station wagon window, so I would kill the sparrows in the garage.
01:40:14.000So I have to turn the corner before I go bullhunting.
01:40:18.000So anyhow, so Fred Bear invited me into his life.
01:40:21.000And from this little shack, my dad was transferred.
01:40:24.000Every year, I couldn't wait to stop in Grayley and meet old Fred.
01:40:28.000Every year we'd stop there, and most years he was there.
01:40:31.000For the opening October 1st Michigan bow season, which is why Michigan is the number one bowhunting state in America to this day, because of Fred Bear's influence.
01:40:40.000So I fell in love with Fred Bear as a mentor, as a hero, and he welcomed me into his life wholeheartedly, even though he told me that his buddies, I don't know about this rock and roll guy, sex, drugs, and rock and roll, I don't know if you want to associate with Nugent.
01:40:52.000You were a long-haired fellow back then, too.
01:41:46.000Long story short, and I can keep you here for 100 days, in 1987, I did my annual hunt with Fred.
01:41:55.000I'd go every year up to a place called Grouse Haven up in Rose City, Michigan, the gateway to the North Country.
01:42:01.000And we'd be around the campfire and around the fireplace with just all the old guys.
01:42:09.000Bob Munger, who we went to Africa with so many times and all his buddies, and I just sit around the campfire just sponging the stories from these guys because they were pioneers of the new bow hunting challenge versus what Roy Weatherby was developing.
01:42:25.000You kill a deer at four or five, six hundred thousand yards, which is a discipline unto itself.
01:42:32.000But bow hunters were looking for something more challenging, more difficult, and more spiritual in understanding your relationship with the animal that the Native Americans always proclaimed, rightly so, that if you dedicate yourself to conscientious,
01:42:49.000stealth, reasoning predator, that the Great Spirit will provide a shot at the game.
01:42:56.000Which means if you dedicate yourself, you can earn that shot.
01:43:02.000Powerful lesson in the industrial explosion to go back to a primal scream.
01:43:10.000So then in April of 88, after our last hunt in 87, and Fred, I didn't even go hunting.
01:43:18.000I just stayed with Fred because he was on an oxygen tank.
01:43:31.000And he told me to keep doing what I do, promoting hunting in a rock and roll way, because he got the word out to people who would never hear it at the SHOT Show.
01:47:33.000Let me emphasize this to all your listeners.
01:47:37.000All of Joe Rogan's listeners, please take heed.
01:47:42.000If you want to find the beast of your spirit, and when I say beast, I mean the best of the best of you, get a bow and arrow.
01:47:54.000Find a bow that is comfortable and graceful.
01:47:59.000Even if it's in your living room at 10 feet with the proper backstop—I train my children—do not underestimate the power of spiritual growth available just by— Getting Mr. Left Hand to be one with Mr. Right Hand as guided by the oneness of Mr. Brain and Mr. Eyeball and see if you can put the arrow of your life in the spot
01:48:35.000I swear to God, Joe, I don't care if you're a cop or a teacher or a butcher or a mechanic or a plumber or a carpenter or a radio dude, I don't care what you do in life.
01:48:46.000Whatever point you're at today, within a few days, Of really discovering your arrow control.
01:48:55.000Whatever you pursue, you will be better at incrementally as you become one with the mystical flight of your arrow, especially young people.
01:49:08.000I think it's an amazing form of meditation because it's so difficult to do.
01:49:26.000And people don't realize how difficult it is to have perfect form in archery and how to execute a perfect shot.
01:49:32.000Especially in the field under hunting conditions because form goes to shit.
01:49:36.000It's not the Olympic range, but you have to discover how you can control, manipulate...
01:49:42.000Manage that form in an awkward field position so that from the waist to the face, from your waist to the face, you can control your form no matter how awkward the position may be.
01:49:55.000And that's the trick to consistent accuracy with a bow and arrow.
01:49:58.000And it doesn't matter whether it's a compound or a long bow or an old recurve bow.
01:50:03.000To become consistently efficient with an old-fashioned long or recurve bow is one of the most joyous, fulfilling, gratifying accomplishments in life because it's a bitch.
01:50:19.000Yeah, it's a lot harder, right, with a recurve or a longbow, any kind of traditional archery bow, a lot harder to be more accurate.
01:50:25.000But it's also, there's something about the satisfaction of being accurate that's even more accentuated, right?
01:50:33.000And I'm not dismissing, I shoot a compound 99% of the time.
01:50:37.000I shoot a Matthews that's lightweight, 50 pounds, it's graceful, it feels like a recurve because I'm at full draw under, you know, graceful conditions.
01:50:48.000And I know that Cameron and you shoot heavy bows because you're strong, but archery has to be graceful.
01:51:01.000You need to find a bow that is easy to draw, easy to come to full draw and make sure that your full draw stops at your face, not back here.
01:51:10.000If it's too long of a draw, especially the compound because it has a let off, and if it's let off too far back, you'll never have form because it's supposed to be hand-eye coordination.
01:51:19.000And if you're anchoring back here, your eye is out of the equation now.
01:51:23.000So in Texas, there's a lot of great archery shops all across America.
01:51:28.000Shout out to Archery Country right here in Austin.
01:52:51.000But what Matt McPherson of Matthews has done is he's taken engineering to a mad scientist level where the finite measurements of the wheels and the cams,
01:53:11.000It's just incredible that anybody figured this out, that this guy figured this out in 1966. When you look at that bow right there that he's got in his hand...
01:53:19.000Like, look how crazy that contraption is with all those strings and pullies and reels.
01:53:43.000I used three fingers under what they call the Apache draw.
01:53:46.000So it was closer to my eye than it was to my corner of my mouth, like I started.
01:53:50.000I used the split finger when I started.
01:53:52.000And you see a gap when you do it that way.
01:53:54.000Can't the bow, like Fred Bear and everybody did, the can to the side to open up that...
01:54:00.000And you see the arrow under you, and you know that it's going to be rising to come to your eye level, just like a bullet rises to the scope.
01:54:08.000And you learn what those gaps are, different yardages.
01:54:11.000And I got to tell you, when I was a kid, I wish I could shoot today like I did when I was a kid.
01:54:42.000I'm not a football fan, but you have to instinctively know what this thrust is to that guy's running and when it will coincide with the receiver.
01:55:25.000I pick up the guitar and things happen based on where I am emotionally, spiritually, cocky, defiantly, easygoing, not easygoing, and those patterns.
01:55:41.000The new record, I can't rave enough about Detroit Muscle.
01:55:44.000The songs, there's an instrumental, it's called Winter Spring Summer Fall.
01:55:51.000And I'm notorious for instrumentals that have beautiful melodies that grow.
01:58:59.000People come from hundreds of miles to let Brian and his team set up their bows because they're – dedicated archery craftsman engineers, because on a compound bow, it really is a mechanical beast.
01:59:16.000And everything has to be timed really specifically.
01:59:20.000The wheels, the cams, the tiller between the limbs and the string, the way the cables connect, where the arrow comes out, where the rest allows the arrow to come out straight.
01:59:31.000And so Brian Shupak, I would call him and say, I missed a fucking buck this morning again.
01:59:38.000He goes, let me set you up a bow with a peep sight.
02:00:37.000Especially the Michigan ones, because they've been hunting since they were born.
02:00:41.000Anyhow, so I respected Brian's recommendation, but it was difficult for me, because instead of the smoothness of looking at my target and coming up muscle memory, let go now, I'd have to find the pin in the peep and hang on for a second,
02:00:58.000which is really contrary to my shooting system.
02:01:04.000But within a couple days, I stuck with it, and boy, I was zapping them right in there, because once that pin and that peep is there, if you can control Mr. Right Hand and Mr. Trigger Finger, like a rifle shot.
02:03:31.000He's got a really good website and he used to be, I think he still does, he works with SWAT teams and he trains people in the difference between open loop and closed loop thinking.
02:04:00.000But a closed loop is like you're in complete control of every movement through the entire process and you're thinking yourself through it.
02:04:08.000And what he does is he has like a mantra that he talks you through.
02:04:11.000And the idea is to keep your mind conscious and to keep yourself from just working on reflexes, just like hitting anxiety and then punching the trigger.
02:04:20.000Instead of doing that, you work through your shot process and you achieve a surprise shot.
02:04:26.000And one of the ways you do that is by keeping your mind on a mantra and talking.
02:05:01.000And this idea of keeping that conversation constantly going in your mind keeps your mind on conscious thought rather than going on instinct.
02:05:43.000I hear it like when I get to like right here, I'm pulling my fingers back, I hear a little click, and I know all I have to do is just pull with my back muscles and it'll go off.
02:05:51.000And I have no idea when it's going to go off.
02:06:07.000Where it goes on the top of the limb, and you come to full draw, but there's little...
02:06:12.000This little spring steel piece of steel is against the string, and you have to finish your draw with the same back tension, and when you hear that little click come off the string, you let go.
02:06:45.000Anybody can grab the bow, anybody can hold the string, and anybody can pull it back to discover form.
02:06:51.000Archery form is critical, especially on the Olympic line, especially when there's an elk out there, especially if it's further than 30 yards.
02:06:58.000But that form, it's when you execute the shot that is all mental.
02:07:24.000Well, I've studied all the shootings, and typically in a shootout between good guys and bad guys, You get this tacky psyche, where the whole world is towards the weapon.
02:07:45.000When you are shooting a target, whether it's an elk or whether it's a target, just a 3D target, are you looking at your pin or are you looking at the spot you want to hit?
02:09:51.000I had a nice long conversation with him in Elk Camp.
02:09:53.000We shared Elk Camp this year, and he was telling me that he shoots with a Carter Target 4, and he gets the trigger in his thumb, and he makes a fist.
02:12:23.000I genuflect at the altar of my instinct.
02:12:27.000And in the hotel room or in your living room, you can do archery.
02:12:31.000When you first start, you might want to get a big backstop.
02:12:34.000But my kids learned archery and marksmanship in the living room with Daisy Red Ryder BB guns shooting at clothespins in the fireplace with a bunch of cardboard behind it.
02:14:57.000Except the American muscle car from the muscle car era, which I missed out on because I was Tuesday buying station wagons for the Amboy Dukes.
02:15:04.000I've more than made up for it because the hottest, most powerful muscle car from the muscle car era couldn't touch this fire-breathing Hellcat Redeye.
02:15:18.000So once I found out that Dodge was producing 700, 800, 840 horses from the factory, I immediately called him and said, I need a couple of these.
02:17:40.000There's a lot of different areas where people are mining for lithium, and there's a finite amount of it, too.
02:17:46.000They were worried about running out of oil, which they never did, but they were worried at one point in time before they figured out how to do fracking and a lot of other stuff, and then they figured out that there was...
02:17:56.000More reserves than they thought there were.
02:17:58.000But they kind of run out of minerals, too, I'm sure.
02:18:01.000Unless they figure out how to recycle them.
02:19:12.000If we can get a horse per cube, if we can now get almost two horses per cube, what were they thinking back then?
02:19:19.000Well, back then, everybody lost their fucking mind when they had to wait in line for gas.
02:19:23.000During that whole gas crisis era, America fell apart.
02:19:28.000The golden age for American muscle cars, in my opinion, is between 65 and with a Barracuda, you can get to 71. After 71, things start getting real slippery.
02:19:40.000You could get a Mercury Comet Caliente with a 411 rear end, 427 that rated it over 450 horse with a hearse four-speed on the floor for like three grand.
02:22:53.000Their job description, I was telling your buddy Jeff here, that's my brother's name, I was telling Jeff, I asked him what he does, and he goes, a little bit of everything.
02:23:01.000I went, you could work with me, because everybody in my life, the job description is, yes, I can do that, and if I can, I'll figure it out and be able to in three minutes.
02:23:11.000Now, when you talk to a guy like you that's been doing something like playing music for as long as you have and you still love it as much as you do, that makes me very happy.
02:24:50.000But a lot of people bust their ass to be a good checkout guy, and a good mechanic, and a good janitor, and they're not really in love with it, but they do it every day.
02:25:02.000And as I come here today driving down 35, which, by the way, You must know how much I love you, because I would not do this.
02:25:12.000I would not go down I-35 for just anybody.
02:25:58.000They can still live a good life if they use their head and what they spend their money on and how the improvised dap to overcome and use their heads.
02:26:17.000And these people book these hunts with me from every imaginable walk of life, from every imaginable job description, from every imaginable ideology.
02:27:13.000And around my camp, you can tell that there's no inhibitions.
02:27:16.000Nobody hesitates to tell me anything they believe, whether it's conflicting, suspicious, out of character, out of line.
02:27:25.000So I get such beautiful feedback, raw, unvarnished feedback.
02:27:35.000honest feedback about every imaginable from the good, the bad, the ugly, especially with all the bad and the ugly that the world is producing right now.
02:27:42.000So I know these people and I know that that hardware store clerk saved money to go hunting with me And he tells me about his truck and his new rifle.
02:28:05.000And they're at my campfire and they share what Fred Bear means, what Stranglehold means, what my music means to them, what freedom means to them, what the First Amendment means to them, what the Second Amendment means to them, how distrusting the government is, how they love their family,
02:28:22.000how they love their daughter at the volleyball.
02:28:24.000I mean, I get such a totality of input from people.
02:29:43.000Yeah, and particularly today, it doesn't even have to be controversial.
02:29:47.000I was talking to this guy, Dr. Mike Hart from Canada, a guy who's been on my show before in the past, and he was telling me that he posted something on LinkedIn, and it was just a study showing how people should take vitamin D,
02:30:04.000and it was associating high levels of vitamin D with positive COVID-19 outputs.
02:31:17.000There is evil in this world, and when you have someone recommending an upgrade procedure for quality health, and someone bans it, the people who bans that recommended upgrade for quality health is pure fucking evil!
02:32:22.000It's strange in America because it's never been this horrible.
02:32:27.000But historically, this level of evil and rot has existed, if you're aware of the Trail of Tears or the Bataan Death March or the rape of Nan King.
02:32:38.000If you're not aware of that stuff, then this would be shocking to you.
02:32:41.000But if you're aware of the depth of evil and cruelty and demonacy of mankind, then this is nothing different than the history of evil and cruelty and demonacy of mankind.
02:33:00.000Like, why did it shift to this totalitarian, like, ideology that must be subscribed to, and then this giving in to authority, which is weird.
02:33:45.000I get all the psychological mechanisms that are at play that allow people to fall into this sort of totalitarian thinking.
02:33:53.000Because the totalitarian thinking is so strange to me that it's coming from the left that they're giving in to this authoritarianism.
02:34:01.000They're giving in to this idea that the government is your friend and the pharmaceutical companies are looking out for your best interests.
02:34:29.000Throughout history, if you talk to people in the 1990s from the left and you ask them, do you trust the pharmaceutical companies, they'd be like, fuck no.
02:34:37.000If you talk to people in the 2000s that were dealing with the opioid crisis and all the other issues, if you watch that show, Dope Sick, if you see the depths that these pharmaceutical companies have gone to in order to sell poison to people and to talk to people and lie to them,
02:34:52.000to tell them this poison is not addictive and to trick politicians...
02:34:57.000And I have a friend who used to be a sales rep.
02:35:00.000And he and I were talking about this the other day.
02:35:02.000And he used to be a sales rep for pharmaceutical companies.
02:35:05.000And he said they would tell him, you are going to be best friends with that doctor.
02:35:09.000You're going to know his fucking kids' names.
02:35:12.000You're going to show up at his kids' games.
02:35:14.000You're going to get them free tickets to baseball games.
02:35:19.000You're going to do whatever you can to get inside their good graces and the idea is to get them to prescribe as much of our drugs as possible.
02:35:28.000I knew that he had done something in the pharmaceutical industry, but I didn't know how deep it was.
02:35:33.000And he and I had this conversation about it.
02:35:47.000They manipulate it to become rich in control, and they could give a shit about how many lives are lost.
02:35:54.000But when he was explaining how this guy makes this amount of money because he sells this amount and he has this, and they had a list down of all the doctors that prescribe the most drugs and all the doctors that'll prescribe the most SSRIs, the most painkillers, the most anxiety medication,
02:36:10.000and that they're just fucking handing this shit out like candy, and they're being encouraged to do this from these pharmaceutical companies.
02:36:21.000A lot of it is influence through giving them free things, giving them free meals.
02:36:26.000It is, but it's also like they develop this reputation and this relationship with these doctors and these nurses, and they take everyone to dinner.
02:36:34.000And then when someone comes along, they go, well, Pfizer's your friend.
02:37:07.000Brian Terry was the Michigan border agent that was killed with the guns that Barack Obama and Eric Holder gave to the Mexican drug cartels that killed Brian Terry with.
02:37:20.000Explain what that was, because it was one of the craziest things.
02:37:24.000To imagine that they thought this was a good idea, they Legally, I mean legally according to them, sold guns to the Mexican cartels because they wanted to be able to track them.
02:37:37.000Yes, they were so anti-gun, Barack Obama and Eric Holder, two of the biggest punks that ever slithered the earth, that they were going to provide as much firepower to the most evil people, the child molesters,
02:37:53.000the child traffickers, the drug importers, the fentanyl producers.
02:37:57.000They provided guns to the Mexican drug cartel devils.
02:38:02.000To show that those types of weapons will end up committing crimes in America because they also had the borders open where they could bring the guns that Eric Holder and Barack Obama gave to the drug cartels, American guns, mostly ARs in 1911,
02:38:18.00045s, and 10 millimeters, a lot of Delta elites.
02:38:23.000Mike, the FFL in Prescott in Phoenix that the FBI and the DEA used to provide all these firearms to the Mexican drug cartels knowingly.
02:38:39.000Claiming, Eric and Holder, Barack Obama, claiming, well, we need to track these guns to show you where they go so we can get the guys that use them illegally.
02:38:48.000They were doing it so that they would use them illegally so they could pass more restrictive gun laws in America.
02:38:53.000In other words, providing firepower to the Mexican gangs would somehow support the theory that gun control in America would make our streets safer.
02:39:20.000But is it a theory that this was the motivation for them selling these guns?
02:39:25.000No, it came out in documents that surfaced.
02:39:29.000So in documents that surfaced that showed a direct connection between them selling the guns and wanting to pass more restrictive Second Amendment laws?
02:40:57.000We decided the different bureaucracies that we need another bureaucracy to maybe milk some more tax dollars out of the American public and bloat it to such a degree that we have 10,000 people doing the job of nine.
02:43:22.000How do you not challenge your boss that your agency is against the law in the United States of America?
02:43:30.000And I know some of these guys, and some of these guys are pretty good guys, but if you were a pretty good bass player, you couldn't be in my band, because you have to be a really good bass player, you have to be the best bass player, and you have to be honest!
02:43:42.000And you have to stand up for what you believe in.
02:43:45.000And all you ATF agents and DE agents and FBI agents, you took an oath to the Constitution of the United States of America.
02:44:03.000How can you face your children knowing that you support an agency that has to do with alcohol, tobacco, and firearms?
02:44:13.000Don't you know deep in your soul that that is so stupid and so anti-American that you must have bouts of guilt?
02:44:25.000And I would recommend that you implement those bouts of guilt and you fight with good Americans to eliminate These illegal, immoral, anti-American, anti-freedom, oath-violating bureaucracies,
02:46:35.000With the over-the-top police state in response to COVID. My whole point.
02:46:40.000Yeah, that would not be possible in America under the current laws, the way it sits right now, because too many people are armed, particularly here.
02:47:34.000Let's stop and take a moment and examine the thought process Of the President of the United States, instead of supporting the people's God-given individual right as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep and bear arms, instead of voicing compassionate,
02:47:52.000freedom-loving support for that self-evident truth, he threatened us that our Second Amendment will do no good against the atomic nuclear power of that prick.
02:48:31.000Subhuman prick squirrels his way up to the commander-in-chief position, and then instead of voicing support for the self-evident truth that God gave us the right to freedom of speech and keep and bear arms, instead of stating that as a representative of the American experiment in self-government,
02:48:50.000he took the enemy's perspective and said your Second Amendment won't do any good because we have nuclear weapons.
02:49:20.000Those who say the blood of patriots, you know, and all the stuff about how we're going to have to Move against the government.
02:49:29.000Well, the tree of liberty is not water in the blood of patriots.
02:49:32.000What's happened is that there never been, if you wanted to think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons.
02:49:42.000The point is that there's always been the ability to limit, rationally limit, the type of weapon that can be owned and who can own it.
02:49:51.000The last time we had data on this issue...
02:49:56.000...purchasing guns was more than 20 years ago.
02:49:59.0005% of gun dealers, it turns out, in the study we did, showed that 90% of illegal guns were found in the crime scenes sold by 5% He's already made the statement that our Second Amendment won't do any good unless we have F-15s and nuclear weapons.
02:50:20.000Taking on the government, I don't even understand.
02:51:12.000And in the atmosphere of potential tyranny from a corrupt government.
02:51:17.000And if you don't think that it's possible for a corrupt government, Just look to the past.
02:51:22.000It just doesn't mean it's happening right now where you have to take arms against the government, but there could...
02:51:27.000And I think until COVID came around and until we saw what's going on in Australia and some other parts of the world where you do see unarmed populations who are being controlled by police states, like look what's happening in Hong Kong, right?
02:51:41.000Look what's happening in other parts of the world where they don't have any weapons, they don't have any control, and they're being controlled by these totalitarian regimes.
02:52:28.000And I communicate with wise people who do know history.
02:52:31.000And I got to tell you, stuff like the Discovery Channel and the occasional Nova special, when they delve into the history, and even a guy like Tucker Carlson who brings forth unlimited evidence to support his statements, and whether it's footage like the footage of Fast and Furious,
02:52:48.000Or whether it's footage of the president claiming that our Second Amendment won't help against the government unless we have F-15s and nuclear weapons.
02:52:55.000I don't need to know anything more than what I hear from the mouths of suspicious people that are executing tyranny and control over innocent lives.
02:53:05.000And here's a part of the problem with what he said.
02:54:09.000The FBI agents that decided to commando up and go arrest Roger Stone with the CNN cameras rolling, how do you obey an immoral command like that?
02:54:21.000How do you obey an oath-violating command like that?
02:56:02.000I think you probably read I'm sending him a lifetime supply of good ammo.
02:56:07.000That was a moment in time for America where we can take a deep breath and go, Thank God a jury in Kenosha still has a soul, a conscience, and they understand glaring right over glaring wrong, glaring good over glaring evil.
02:56:24.000Is there a story in our lifetime that has had more misrepresentation in the media in terms of, like, what the narrative is versus what actually happened?
02:56:36.000Well, maybe when the Huffington Post wrote that I adopted a nine-year-old girl to have sex with, What's her name?
02:57:02.000I remember that, the Pierce Morgan thing was fascinating.
02:57:05.000Because he tried to equate, he was talking about gun violence, but he didn't understand that when he was quoting those numbers, so many of those people that died were killed in the process of committing crime.
02:57:44.000The cops murdered an unarmed black man, the Blake guy or whatever his name was that the cops were called in Kenosha, which was the impetus of the riots.
02:57:54.000They murdered an innocent unarmed black man.
02:57:58.000Fascinating, too, though, that what happens during a lot of these riots is people that are already bad people use these riots as an excuse to do violent acts.
02:58:11.000And that's what you saw with the one guy that he shot that was a multiple offender pedophile.
02:58:34.000I don't know if anybody told you that, but I gave a shout-out to Michael Berry and Joe Paggs and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity and Lars Larson and Mark Davis, all these conservative talk show people.
02:58:45.000There's a term I beseech you, to begin parroting.
02:58:52.000And it is at the core of all heartbreak, tragedy, and victimization, engineered victimization in America.
02:59:00.000And the term I coined in a recent, well, that's not recent, it was years ago, is that based on many uniform crime reports by the FBI, one of the rare moments where they can be trusted, Is that upwards of 96% of violent crime—that's a huge number.
02:59:19.000It's as good as 100% as far as I'm concerned.
02:59:21.000If you're 96% likely to kill an elk on that hunt, you're going to probably kill an elk.
02:59:26.00096% of violent crime is committed by repeat offenders.
02:59:30.000What we are living in today is the scourge Of engineered recidivism.
02:59:37.000The violent offenders that are guaranteed to repeat their crimes are let out by the courts, the judges, the prosecutors, the parole boards, and the negotiation of early release or plea bargaining.
02:59:51.000Well, I know we shot a guy, but maybe we can get him to testify against the guy who drove the getaway car.
03:00:01.000When you say engineered, do you think this is done on purpose?
03:00:04.000Yes, it has to be because you can't not know it.
03:00:07.000If I was a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist person, I would say that too.
03:00:12.000And I'm resisting it with every fucking fiber of my being.
03:00:15.000As do I. But when I look at shit like what's going on in Los Angeles in particular, where they are letting people out left and right and you've got armed robberies all over the place, it is nationwide.
03:00:26.000But I know what LA used to be like because I used to live there.
03:00:29.000It used to be different just five years ago.
03:02:24.000Did the auto driving feature go nuts and it just plowed into the crowd?
03:02:27.000No, this evil man with real problems, like a really psychologically fucked human being, drove into a crowd of strangers.
03:02:36.000Listen to the words out of the prosecutorial team at the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
03:02:42.000Listen to the words out of their mouths and don't give yourself a headache.
03:02:46.000You'll get an aneurysm if you pursue the question, why would they say that?
03:02:52.000Why would that prosecuting team say that when someone is attacking you with a gun and a skateboard that we all have to put up with a beating once in a while and there's no reason to...
03:03:48.000That's what the New York prosecutor said.
03:03:50.000That's what the Portland prosecutor said.
03:03:52.000That's what the Seattle prosecutor said.
03:04:06.000The prosecutor said, yes, when faced with the deadly force of a taser gun, deadly force is justified.
03:04:14.000Now, since the guy with the taser was black and the cop was white, now the same prosecutor said, there's no reason to shoot a man with a taser gun because it can only cause temporary harm.
03:06:20.000And if you try to ask why anything from the left, you'll have an aneurysm because there is no answer.
03:06:27.000But don't you think that there's something to asking why because if you can at least show the path of corruption that led to these district attorneys that are willing to let out violent criminals that threaten everybody's health and safety and if you could show that to people that have been in support of more lenient policies in terms of like prosecuting criminals and you could show them that this is what's going on and that this is somehow or another It's almost
03:06:58.000But this will cause people to question things and maybe make people more aware of how fucked these people are that are making these laws are, the people that are enforcing these laws or not enforcing these laws.
03:07:11.000I will give you the benefit of the doubt that the question why...
03:07:17.000May facilitate an inquiry into the origins of this evil and corruption.
03:07:22.000It's going to open people's eyes and what they call red pill them, right?
03:07:25.000I have found more effective just spotlighting the cockroaches, identifying their insanity.
03:07:33.000And let's just talk left versus right.
03:07:35.000My brother and I have this unbelievable friction right now.
03:07:39.000Because he hated Trump to such a degree that he called me the maniac.
03:09:04.000I've been performing in Wisconsin for over 60 years.
03:09:07.000He said he knew that it would cause a loss of life.
03:09:09.000He said my diversionary prosecution, diverting prosecution, would cause the loss of innocent life, but here's the clincher, and don't ask why.
03:10:52.000That is, in what you said about being a democratic socialist, is a more international view.
03:10:57.000But I think if you take global poverty that seriously, it leads you to conclusions that in the U.S. are considered out of political bounds.
03:11:06.000Things like sharply raising the level of immigration we permit, even up to a level of open borders, about sharply increasing...
03:11:19.000I mean, that's a right-wing proposal which says essentially there is no United States.
03:11:23.000But it would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn't it?
03:11:26.000And it would make everybody in America poorer.
03:11:28.000Then you're doing away with the concept of a nation-state.
03:11:31.000And I don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that.
03:11:36.000If you believe in a nation-state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, You have an obligation, in my view, to do everything we can to help poor people.
03:11:48.000What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy.
03:11:51.000Bring in all kinds of people who work for two or three dollars an hour.
03:12:31.000It's amazing, but I give him credit for a rare, maybe one-time hiccup of sense.
03:12:38.000But within that rare, one-time hiccup of sense about borders, he tried to convince somebody, not me, That it's a right-wing policy of open borders?
03:12:49.000Well, I think you just thought that because you could get a lot of cheap labor to come in and you could pay them as little as possible.
03:12:55.000Except that the evidence is irrefutable and inescapable that the open borders are the direct result of Barack Obama and Joe Biden and the left.
03:13:09.000I mean, what's happening now is certainly the way people are looking at it now is a direct result of this idea that to not have open borders is somehow racist, to want to stop people that are coming in here.
03:13:34.000It's just fascinating that ideologically things have shifted so much, like what the parameters are of what is acceptable points that you could talk about and the way you could say it.
03:13:46.000If someone tried to talk like that on the left today, they would say, this is an alt-right person.
03:13:59.000Social media and these echo chambers with these fucking kids that get right out of universities or in universities right now and then get out and they're in these social justice warrior echo chambers and they just spout out this shit.
03:14:12.000And they do it without any understanding of what the ramifications are of what they're doing.
03:14:17.000When he's saying that this is a Koch brothers idea, if you tried to say that today, people would laugh in your face.
03:14:23.000They'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about?
03:14:42.000It's just false, false, false, false, false.
03:14:44.000But they have to go to that outrageous, dishonest misrepresentation to make their point, because Bernie is a communist.
03:14:53.000And I don't care if he supported buying me ammo, he'd still be a communist.
03:14:59.000It was probably just a tactic to try to weasel his way into a believability factor, because overall, All of these leftists, the media, academia, big tech, when they censor the recommendation of how people can get healthy,
03:15:14.000when it's been proven from a doctor, I don't need to ask why.
03:15:31.000Now, I obey the laws, but I like to think that the laws that I obey came from we the people for safe, secure, compassionate, pleasurable, quality of life perspectives.
03:15:47.000My son Rocco, all my kids, my grandkids, my brother and sister, my incredible wife, Shemaine.
03:16:44.000I'm doing a Ted Nugent greasy speakeasy at Tucker Hall in Waco on Saturday, December 4th with Johnny Kutz on drums and Johnny Big on bass with Calvin Ross, Lone Star Music.
03:16:56.000Yeah, I'm getting a lot of shout-outs.
03:16:57.000Because my life would be meaningless without the people I'm shouting out to.
03:18:09.000But what I do mean is, if you could argue your position freely without any worry of being pulled from the internet, because that has happened to so many people.
03:18:20.000There's so many people whose voices have been completely silenced.
03:18:24.000And there's people that are famous that have had their voices silenced, and there's people that you've never heard of that, for whatever reason, they said something that someone didn't agree with, so they just banned them.
03:18:41.000You know, there was a thing called the Unity 2020 Project that Brett Weinstein tried to put together, and the idea was to bring people from the left and the right that were sensible people, the idea was to bring someone like Dan Crenshaw and Tulsi Gabbard, bring them together and create this third party, a unity party, right?
03:18:59.000There was no threats, there was no violence, there was no spamming, there was nothing.
03:19:03.000It was just a position that they thought could endanger the chances of the Democrats winning, and so they justified polling them and censoring them from the internet.
03:19:12.000What would it be like if people could have these free conversations, just talk about things?
03:19:18.000I think, you know, we could find a lot of fucking common ground if we could do that.
03:19:24.000You do that, and we salute you for that.
03:19:25.000But have you ever had a hardcore communist leftist Che Guevara fan on?
03:19:45.000But how can you find good in a communist agenda?
03:19:48.000I don't think it's a communist agenda.
03:19:50.000I think he calls himself a democratic socialist, and the idea is doing better for the people, the working people and the working families, and making sure that people can't take advantage of these people by not paying them a fair wage.
03:20:07.000Yeah, but his position is to look at things like speculative trading and take a small percentage of that, less than a fraction of a penny off of these crazy stock deals that they're doing where they're using algorithms.
03:20:19.000Take that and using it for infrastructure, using it for education, using it for healthcare.
03:20:25.000I mean, I don't know if it would work.
03:20:44.000So that's his perspective that helped a little guy to take a little tiny little piece, some crumbs, as I said in The Godfather 2, to wet my beak.
03:21:17.000Just like where I was saying my friend who was working for these pharmaceutical companies and he would get deep in with these doctors and deep in with the nurses and know their families.
03:21:29.000It's like this weird sort of legal corruption.
03:21:32.000This way that they can infiltrate these people's lives.
03:22:04.000The people in the arena, the swirling dust of battle, the ups and downs of life, and they stumble and they dust themselves off and get back up and try again.
03:22:14.000Maybe they wanted to be a musician, but they couldn't make it, so they became a plumber.
03:23:06.000But since the deer hunters didn't get enough deer because they weren't able to use attractants, the USDA comes in with big giant feeders that says USDA! Who could possibly trust that glaring dishonesty and hypocrisy?
03:23:21.000My favorite one is the recent decision of the FDA where they tried to stop the Freedom of Information Act releasing information about COVID for 55 years about the vaccines.
03:25:26.000It's like the guy, not the Attorney, I guess it is, the U.S. Attorney General, who's got his fingers in the books that goes to the education system.
03:25:39.000His son-in-law runs the books that are being sold to the education systems across America, and he's banning alternative education material because his son-in-law has a deal with the teachers' union.
03:30:20.000And I gotta dream like Martin Luther King.
03:30:28.000In my heart I hear that man sing So I climb up his mountain And I shout it out loud Cause I got a dream I swear to God And I never stop believing And I can't Stop dreaming And
03:31:03.000I know Many gave all On my knees I humbly fall I see the crosses And old glory And that's why nothing Will ever stop me.