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00:00:12.000So this dude right here is Travis Walton, and he is one of the most famous UFO abduction, I don't know if you want to say victim, guys with a story, and he gave me a bobblehead.
00:00:25.000You ever see that movie, what was the movie called?
00:00:49.000And he got close to it, and when he got close to it, supposedly, according to him, some burst of energy came from the thing and knocked him back and knocked him unconscious.
00:01:23.000I've always been fascinated with UFO shit, but I feel like so many people lie and it makes it so hard.
00:01:28.000I literally lied about it when I was a kid.
00:01:30.000I remember being in the car and I was probably eight or nine and I was like, I should just tell people I saw a UFO. So I said to my mom, I saw a UFO as we're driving.
00:01:37.000And then that was my story for years until I was like 13. Yeah, it gets you extra attention.
00:01:42.000That's the problem with fantastical tales, whether it's ghosts or psychics or any of that stuff.
00:05:05.000You say that now but with CRISPR and I think that there's gonna come a time where like if someone is trans that you are going to be able to opt for a procedure that will switch you.
00:05:53.000So if it's not true, people just say it.
00:05:54.000Yeah, but I mean, what I meant was there's like an x-ray of sharks in the womb and they're all like, ah, mouth open, like a bunch of them swimming around together.
00:06:02.000I'm like, I wonder if that's real or that's horseshit.
00:06:50.000But see, I find that so much more interesting than the conversation about aliens is like life underwater and how much we haven't discovered, how much life just exists here.
00:06:59.000Like, I'm a lot more fascinated with this planet than I am like the universe in some senses.
00:07:03.000I'm a lot more fascinated with the universe.
00:09:52.000And so they thought, like, someone was breaking into the aquarium and stealing sharks.
00:09:56.000So they set up these cameras, and they found this octopus who's just, like, laying in wait, and then sharks would swim by, and they were like, bitch!
00:10:03.000See, I didn't know they were even capable of that.
00:11:20.000And it's like you're not supposed to attribute emotion to it because it's emotionless, but at the same time I'm like, oh my god, my day is fucked.
00:11:30.000That's the craziest shit is when they know that some of them are going to get killed by crocodiles and they all have to make it across the river.
00:11:37.000And you see the crocodile's heads just poking up and moving towards them.
00:11:41.000And they're just running and hoping that they get out of there.
00:13:47.000It still looks like without the mouth open.
00:13:49.000Yeah, the ocean is filled with, it's monster soup.
00:13:51.000It's filled with fucking wild creatures.
00:13:54.000But the thing that fascinates me about space is there's an infinite amount of planets out there that have an infinite amount of species.
00:14:01.000That's like, it's not just what we have in our ocean, which is pretty fucking crazy and interesting, but an infinite number of those things out there and an infinite number of creatures that are terrestrial as well as underwater.
00:14:14.000Where would you say it's probably the nearest?
00:15:13.000I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna resist as long as I fucking can.
00:15:16.000I thought it was really interesting recently finding out what China's doing with the algorithms with TikTok.
00:15:20.000So you have, like, you look at kids in America and their algorithm on TikTok they're scrolling and it's like someone with green hair telling them they're like a dummy boy and like learning about all the flags and then you go to China and it's like science experiments and like shit that makes you a better person.
00:16:25.000But then you think about, I don't know, I'm just looking at what's happening to like Gen Z and kids in this country and so much of the shit they're being indoctrinated with.
00:16:33.000And you look at them and it's like, well, they're not going to have that problem.
00:16:35.000Maybe it's some other problems, but at least they'll have that problem.
00:16:38.000What do you think is causing all of the issues that people in Gen Z or whatever you would say are having that maybe generations before them didn't have to deal with?
00:16:48.000What do you think is the cause of this?
00:16:49.000Well, I think one of the main differences between how I grew up, and I'm only 28, it's not like I was in school that long ago, but it seems as if there's a lot of, just based on what you see online, activists that become teachers, and they go into these classroom settings with the intention of teaching kids about LGBT shit,
00:17:08.000It seems as if people specifically have gone into it to indoctrinate people, whereas I remember all my teachers, it's like, They avoided being political at all costs because they knew it would upset parents.
00:17:18.000And I think that's kind of the way to go.
00:17:20.000Not entirely, but I think that's healthier.
00:17:23.000Yeah, it's weird when people don't have their own shit together, but they want to teach kids.
00:17:30.000I'm not against people talking about anything in school.
00:17:36.000But I think that the problem is when they're indoctrinating children into an idea and they're saying that this is right and this is the way to do it.
00:17:43.000There's really clear right or wrong, like, hey, don't steal, don't rob, don't kill people, don't rape, don't start arson.
00:17:52.000There's a lot of, like, real clear yes and nos.
00:17:55.000But then when it gets to certain issues, it's like...
00:17:58.000Some people have different religious beliefs.
00:18:02.000Some people have different social beliefs.
00:18:05.000It's good to talk about them, but you should be able to have someone from both sides discuss it.
00:18:11.000I've talked about this before, but when I was a kid, when I was in high school, there was a guy named Barney Frank who was a congressman in Massachusetts.
00:18:19.000And back then he was in the closet, but since then he's come out.
00:18:22.000But he was the left-wing representative, and there was a guy from this group that was called the Moral Majority.
00:18:28.000The moral majority at the time was like, they were like a right wing, they were kind of goofy.
00:18:34.000They were right wing, but they were sloppy.
00:18:36.000Like the ideology wasn't well formulated and the people that bought it, they were like sort of like QAnon people without the conspiracy theory.
00:18:48.000So this guy and Barney Frank debated in an auditorium in our high school when I was like 14, 15 years old.
00:18:56.000And it was really interesting because we got to see one guy who had this very staunch right-wing perspective and then...
00:19:04.000Barney Frank, who is much more articulate and much more at least seemingly intelligent, picked his ideas apart and had a much better presentation and we got to walk out of there and talk about it and have our own opinions about things.
00:19:20.000Now kids are getting, instead of getting educated As to the pros and cons of different perspectives, a lot of kids, you know, obviously depending upon school, they're getting indoctrinated into these ideas.
00:19:33.000It depends, are you in a blue city in a blue state, red city in a red state, red in a blue, you know what I mean?
00:19:39.000But also, like, I guess it's just the fact that there's not both sides shown to a lot of the shit.
00:19:46.000Like, for me, I don't think there's any reason why preschoolers need to learn about LGBT and be shown all this flag that's like you see pictures of teachers in classrooms with like every possible variation of like LGBT flag, non-binary flag, all the shit with like five-year-olds and it's like to them it just looks like really cool colorful shit that kids are naturally going to be attracted to and so it's not a shock to me that you have like little kids now identifying as LGBT when you can make the argument that like that's just society progressing so naturally more people will identify
00:20:16.000but like Five-year-olds and the same massive leap it's been used to be like 0.01%.
00:20:50.000You weren't praised in the way we are now.
00:20:52.000It's like society only knows how to do extremes of anything.
00:20:55.000It used to be total shame and getting jumped and beat up because you're the faggot, which was my life as a kid.
00:21:01.000And now it's like five-year-olds being told they're an inspiration and a hero because they're non-binary and they're going to go on Hormones when by the time they're 11, it's like Just chill.
00:21:11.000When did you feel if you can remember when do you feel like something was off that you were supposed to be a girl and Like five.
00:21:24.000Like my earliest memories in life were feeling like the only way I can describe it was like a very intense misalignment between the way I was perceived and the way I had my self-concept.
00:21:33.000So I would say five, but obviously I didn't have the words to articulate it at five.
00:21:38.000Was that when you first started going?
00:21:46.000First of all, I mean preschool is kind of like the earliest time people even have memories, but also like that's when you start being socially separated by gender.
00:21:54.000It's like, you know, I have a very vivid memory of like The boys cubby area where you put your backpack in your schoolwork and the girls and it was like the girls was pink the boys was blue and that's Superficial, but you start to see the division really early and I just had this inherent sense that I would never be able to fit into like a Maleness ever.
00:22:13.000I don't know why and the feelings only got more intense as I got older then I hope I hit puberty and it was like oh shit Something's really off.
00:22:24.000And then eventually at 18, I started making the steps.
00:22:28.000So there was never a moment where you were confused as to whether or not this is the right thing to do?
00:22:33.000It was always confused as to why am I a boy?
00:22:37.000There is definitely confusion and trepidation about like, is that the right thing for me to transition?
00:22:42.000That's like a huge decision that I think is taken like way too lightly now.
00:22:47.000And things have changed really quickly with how that decision is treated in society.
00:22:52.000But I guess I just had – it was just a progression of like understanding it more and more, understanding like – Why am I uncomfortable with being called him by people when I'm literally a him?
00:23:02.000Like, why is that something that would make me feel uncomfortable?
00:23:05.000Why is that something that would cause me stress or anxiety?
00:23:09.000And it just got worse and worse and worse.
00:24:43.000Yeah, that's what's crazy about, like, as a lifelong Californian until recently, it's like, it's always just been this thing where, like, LA pushes the narrative of California and San Francisco pushes the narrative of California, but it's really far from the truth.
00:24:54.000So I grew up in a small town where I was, like, the town weirdo, which was totally fine.
00:24:59.000I think it prepared me for the life I have now a little bit.
00:25:03.000So everyone saw it before me, basically.
00:27:18.000A lot of people, they get out of high school, they do whatever they do, whether they go to school or whether they go and get a job, and they kind of stay around where they are, and then they have this sort of very narrow view of the world because of that.
00:27:32.000Yeah, and they don't necessarily understand your experiences.
00:27:37.000So I moved to LA a few years ago, and I was there for five years.
00:27:41.000And like when all the riots happened in 2020, I remember calling my family and just saying like, Hey, I'm sure you're seeing the news.
00:27:48.000I'm sure you're slightly concerned for my safety.
00:28:05.000How do you feel about affirmative action?
00:28:07.000It's like, okay, so what you don't understand is I'm by no means this group of people's favorite person being Antifa of Black Lives Matter.
00:28:15.000I've literally had Antifa show up to my speaking events before.
00:28:19.000Why have they showed up at your speaking events?
00:28:40.000That's what's so fucking stupid about it.
00:28:42.000I got first called transphobic because of the Fallon Fox thing, because that fighter that was beating the shit out of biological women without telling them that she was a man for 30 plus years.
00:28:51.000Cracked one of their skulls within like 30 seconds.
00:29:11.000And there's another recent case that people brought before me like, this is outrageous, this is bullshit, of a guy who I think he was a ranger or a seal, like super fucking jacked.
00:29:22.000Like, ripped dude who transitioned and became a woman and fought this woman.
00:29:48.000And she said that it was a medical decision.
00:29:50.000It was a medical issue and it wasn't any of their business.
00:29:54.000I don't think your sex is a medical issue.
00:29:56.000It's just kind of a state of being and it might be important to certain situations.
00:30:01.000Like if I go to a doctor's office, I always find that it's very important for me to tell them that I'm male to female transsexual because there's going to be certain things that they need to maybe screen me for for my health or look out for that are specifically to biological males.
00:30:13.000And those are things that, yeah, I can change a lot of that, but not all of it.
00:30:16.000But at least that is patient-physician relationship.
00:30:27.000So I think her perspective was that if she tells these people that she was a biological male for 30 years and then transitioned, that she'll get publicly persecuted.
00:30:39.000We'll be upset, but you got to give people the opportunity to say no.
00:30:43.000Like, I don't want to compete against someone like this, especially in the level of competition that she was facing.
00:30:50.000Yeah, but it's also like it's low level combat sports.
00:30:52.000It's like once she fought, she fought a biological female that kicked her ass, Ashley Evans Smith, who eventually made her way to the UFC. Yeah.
00:31:17.000Just to be kind of real about it, if I, for whatever reason, like, right when I moved from LA to Texas, I was in between doctors, so I was literally off hormones for maybe three to four weeks.
00:31:28.000And, like, I've been on them so consistently for so many years now that I didn't realize how quickly it gets reversed if you're not on.
00:31:36.000Like, I didn't see necessarily physical changes, but just psychologically, like, just so many things.
00:32:53.000And he did a series of videos about the problem with people transitioning and, like, what are the benefits that these athletes are facing that activists are not being straight about.
00:33:05.000And, you know, he went over specifically this MMA fighter that used to be – was he a ranger or a seal when he was a male?
00:33:16.000I think he was a Navy Seal or a Marine.
00:33:50.000But the thing about that is I think it's very easy to get a little reactionary to things like this and be like, oh, this is a really bad thing.
00:33:57.000And I agree that it's a bad thing, especially because it's not consensual, like you said.
00:34:00.000But what better way to show one of the major pitfalls of this ideology than just seeing it?
00:34:12.000Physical difference sometimes between them.
00:34:13.000You don't have to be like into sports or a fucking scientist to see like oh That's a huge human.
00:34:19.000That's a small human and that person's probably gonna have an advantage in some way over this person Some of them are just like fucking big and you see them wind up playing track or some running track and like it's okay The craziest one that I've ever heard of a 50 year old guy Transition to being female Caitlyn Jenner No,
00:36:17.000Are there enough male to female combat sports athletes that you could actually have a league and have people that would have opponents?
00:36:25.000Because you have to have a weight class, say if you have a 135-pound weight class, you have to have X amount of women in that weight class to compete.
00:36:33.000Probably will be soon now that like a huge chunk of like kids are wanting like it's gonna be more trans people in the future a lot more So this brings me back to the idea of the alien and the idea of CRISPR. Like if people could just transition,
00:38:23.000And you seek the solution to fix it, which for some people is transition, but it's not everyone.
00:38:29.000I mean, clearly you have, like, there's this really alarming, growing movement of detransitioners among young people online.
00:38:34.000If you look up the word detransition on YouTube, it's a bunch of now becoming, like, influencers, getting, like, millions of views talking about how they were 16, thought they were trans.
00:38:42.000By the time they're 19, they're done with it, but their breasts are gone, but their voice is permanently altered, but they have...
00:41:16.000I mean, maybe you get some of your feeling back, but if you're growing a new dick on your arm and then they put it on there, how much of it do you feel?
00:42:47.000Because to me, there's a very big difference between individual trans people and trans ideology.
00:42:55.000And when you're trans, it's like you can either follow the trans ideology, which is ever moving, ever growing, new rules every other week, or you like don't.
00:43:03.000What's the newsletter say for this week?
00:43:08.000I just did a video with Michael Malice on my channel where we reacted to like crazy TikToks and it was all this trans shit in terms and I'm like, how do I not know this and I'm a fucking tranny?
00:43:17.000How am I not relating to this in any sense of the, like what?
00:43:21.000So it's hard to keep up with but that's also why I have a lot of empathy for people who don't understand trans people, don't get it because everyone has a gay friend.
00:43:30.000Most people don't have a trans friend.
00:43:32.000The TikToks, the Libs of TikTok channel.
00:43:56.000And TikTok is, you know, when you've talked to software engineers that have back-engineered the TikTok platform and gone over all this different stuff that it does to violate privacy, they said, we've never seen an app like this before.
00:44:08.000It's like the most violating app ever.
00:45:14.000Yeah, because there was this funny meme that was going around called Super Straight, and there was high school kids being like, I'm super straight, I don't date trans women.
00:45:22.000But it's funny because the way they did it was like, I'm not just straight, I'm super straight.
00:45:28.000But the way they did it was like, okay, we'll say trans women or women, but I'm super straight, so I go further than that, I don't actually date them.
00:45:34.000Oh my god, super straight is hilarious.
00:45:36.000But everyone was super upset about it, and to me, I find it insulting on so many levels to insist people have to date someone of a certain type or be involved sexually.
00:45:46.000So I'm like, why are y'all attacking people for saying this?
00:46:12.000So it's almost like they're trying to push us towards the most ridiculous, preposterous, cartoonish, caricature-ish version of what like a social justice warrior would be.
00:46:28.000Do you remember like, I don't know, I remember being maybe like in 2015 watching like your podcast with like just people from that time talking about the SJWs are starting to rise up and like those guests and it's like that was like nothing.
00:46:41.000Well, people thought I was overreacting.
00:46:43.000They were like, I was talking to people like Jordan Peterson and a lot of other people.
00:46:47.000I was like, this is not going to stop here.
00:46:49.000You have to understand, these people are going to go from universities into corporations, and then the corporate interests are going to be represented by these people, and it's going to spread this ideology in mainstream America.
00:47:22.000But that's what's so scary as well when you think of big tech.
00:47:26.000It's like so much of what we say is so controlled and there's so much that I would love to just be able to open my phone, rant about on social media, and not be...
00:47:33.000How stupid is that I got banned for saying that I don't think it's transphobic to not date trans women?
00:48:43.000They showed that a bunch of evidence that was introduced already had FBI tags on it, which means the FBI had access to all of these CDs, all of these hard drives, all of these things, had reviewed them, and then had allowed them to be brought back in for evidence,
00:49:31.000American issues were kind of going head-to-head over that trial.
00:49:36.000But the Jelaine Maxwell thing, I feel like, is so much more to the public interest, or it should be, because it's like you have Hollywood and the elites and people connected to politics preying on young girls, and the fact that that's not of a higher priority in people's attention span is really sad,
00:49:53.000There's a lot of, like, black celebrities and black people that I follow that still have, like, a take on Kyle Rittenhouse because he went to a Black Lives Matter protest.
00:50:32.000When I think about that kind of shit, I think there are really just two separate realities that people live in in this country.
00:50:40.000And to me, it's split up between people who either have faith in the corporate press and people who don't.
00:50:45.000Well, I think in this case it's a little different because I think there's a narrative that got put out and a lot of people didn't read into the story, they just bought the narrative.
00:50:54.000The narrative was this kid's a white supremacist, he crossed state lines with an illegal gun and he goes to a Black Lives Matter protest looking for trouble and shoots three people.
00:51:17.000But he did administer aid to people, and he did work to clean up graffiti.
00:51:22.000And I think the story is, I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the story is that some guys who ran a car dealership asked him to come and help and protect it.
00:51:32.000And these guys saw him with the AR, and they chased him down.
00:51:36.000They hit him with a skateboard, knocked him to the ground.
00:51:39.000One guy pulled a gun at him, and he shot three guys.
00:52:02.000And then you have people to the even post trial, like post like letting him go.
00:52:08.000You have people who still think he went and shot two innocent Black Lives Matter protesters because the way in which the media frames it is killed to people at a Black Lives Matter protest.
00:52:16.000It's like you're purposely leaving out a lot of context here.
00:52:19.000And but that's also their MO. It's stroking more division, more hate, more this group versus that group.
00:52:26.000It's also the best way to get people to click on things.
00:52:29.000And that's always a thing with the media.
00:52:33.000And part of it, I feel, it's almost like they're just trying to survive.
00:52:38.000Because to try to get people to read your news stories, good luck today.
00:53:16.000Well, that was one of the things that helped me.
00:53:17.000The crazy thing is that it was on a laundry list of stuff that I took, and that was the one that they pointed out.
00:53:22.000But, you know, I've had legitimate doctors that have treated, including Dr. Pierre Corey, who's treated thousands of people with ivermectin.
00:53:31.000And people, I mean, they're handing it out as part of the protocol in Japan, in India, in parts of South America, in Mexico.
00:55:23.000And it's also insane knowing that if history went another way and Trump had gotten a second term, I think the vaccine skeptics and hesitant people would be on the other side.
00:55:34.000Because right before Trump lost, it was like Kamala Harris talking about how she wouldn't take the vaccine.
00:55:40.000It was every CNN anchor, talk show host, all these libs, Biden.
00:55:58.000Speaking of him, a couple of the TikTok thing.
00:56:02.000Do you remember that Trump had an order to ban it?
00:56:05.000And then the Biden administration revoked it in order to change, I guess, the framework of what was going to be changed or like the banning of what they were actually banning about data sales and Tracking and all sorts of stuff, but it hasn't happened.
00:56:19.000But here, if you look at the top of the article, look what it says there.
00:56:22.000But the apps still aren't out of hot water.
00:56:32.000So with this, the tracker trial thing, there is something apparently here with this, some Twitter sleuths, if you will, did some digging into the account and some old archive tweets.
00:56:50.000Oh, so like their Russian troll account?
00:56:53.000Maybe, but like they were saying that that account wasn't like a person at the trial.
00:56:57.000They were just reposting stuff from other like mainstream media sources that they were almost claiming weren't following the trial too, which is a little...
01:00:35.000See, so clearly Gab has a bias, and even their Twitter account where it's the owners of Gab, it's all right-wing tweets just from them personally.
01:00:42.000But I don't want to join a platform where everyone thinks the same.
01:00:45.000And say what you will about Twitter, they ban a lot of people who think differently.
01:01:52.000Yeah, they had great human interest pieces.
01:01:55.000This one piece that I talk about all the time was Haimo's Arctic Adventure about this guy who lives in way north Alaska who lives off the land.
01:02:50.000It's really a bunch of fucking freaks that work there.
01:02:52.000It is, but it's also, there's a market, right?
01:02:56.000Like if you're working for TMZ, you're trying to catch a celebrity drunk, cheating on their wife, walking out of a club, holding hands with the wrong person.
01:03:21.000I have a lot of friends that are comics that were, like, struggling comics that used to work for TMZ. And I would see them at the airport all the time.
01:03:37.000Their thing is politically hard left-leaning and then exaggerate the perspectives of anybody that's in the news that might have anything questionable because that's how you get people to click on things, like calling you far-right or calling me right at all.
01:04:11.000I mean, granted, we had Alex Jones in the RV, right?
01:04:14.000But the thing about Alex Jones is, like, I see him as sort of like the Internet's collective crazy uncle.
01:04:22.000He's the uncle who, like, he's going to be rambling, he's going to be saying crazy shit, and you're going to be tuning him out half the time.
01:04:28.000Then every once in a while, he just drops a nugget, and you're like...
01:04:31.000Oh, yeah, that's totally right, but chill.
01:04:33.000I wish that whole Sandy Hook thing had never happened.
01:05:22.000And I think a lot of it like he was going, I mean, and this is not an excuse, but this is just the reality.
01:05:28.000He pays so much attention to these conspiracies.
01:05:34.000And for the longest time, people were saying that he's just crazy.
01:05:38.000But one of the things that's come up over this pandemic and, you know, and leading up to the current state that we're at now is that people are realizing that a lot of the things he called are happening.
01:05:51.000He said they were going to institute some sort of a vaccine passport.
01:06:21.000But then there's also, like, all the different things that he's, like, it's like, you are here now, because it'll show, like, all the things that he said that he predicted that people were like, this is bullshit.
01:07:28.000In fact, when I first started on YouTube and on the internet, one of the first people that ever reached out was him.
01:07:35.000He had this really long message, novel-like message about how much I was inspiring him as a person, how much he loved me and what I was doing.
01:08:05.000But I believe, and I think this is something that we should all subscribe to, I believe in forgiveness.
01:08:12.000We have to have that as a He didn't fucking kill someone, dude.
01:08:14.000Yeah, and as human beings, there has to be room for error.
01:08:20.000And there has to be a point where you...
01:08:23.000Because otherwise, we're just going to try to destroy everyone.
01:08:25.000Because everyone has something that you could point to, especially if you exaggerated it or distorted it, or someone gave an account of an event that was inaccurate, and then people...
01:08:46.000And he's like 18. And so the rest of his life, he will be seen as a white supremacist unless there's a huge cultural shift and we stop giving a fuck about buzzwords like that.
01:08:57.000He'll be seen as that forever because Joe Biden called him that.
01:09:26.000This lady the other day, this lady who, I don't know what was wrong with her, that she couldn't take the vaccine, but they were, like, barking at her.
01:11:31.000But also birth control, there are a lot of negative aspects for young girls that are on it.
01:11:36.000And so the idea that your daughter turns 13 and you're putting on birth control, it's like, well, maybe chill on that.
01:11:45.000Well, you know, it's like people don't want unwanted pregnancies, which totally makes sense.
01:11:49.000And the thing about human nature is when people get horny and they're together and they're alone, and especially when they're young, they're going to do stupid shit.
01:13:25.000I was like, I was like, I know Buck Angel's been on here, so I'm not the only trans person ever here, but I'm probably the least masculine person to ever be on this podcast.
01:13:33.000Because even a lot of the women that come on, it's like Danica Patrick.
01:15:36.000I'm like, I get how that benefits you.
01:15:38.000But now I'm like, then my Wikipedia page, I'm like, fuck.
01:15:41.000But like, if anything, I'm more so center, right?
01:15:43.000But like you said, it's like if you don't have friends from all over the spectrum in every area of life, what kind of life are you really living?
01:15:49.000When I first met Alex, he was getting arrested for protesting George W. Bush when George W. Bush was running for president.
01:15:58.000He was talking about all the ties that George W. Bush had to elitists and globalists and that they wanted to start wars and do all these things.
01:16:06.000He was the guy that was attacking just people that were in positions of power that were corrupt or that were doing illegal things.
01:16:14.000On the campaign trail, I think it was, that was one of the first times I ever saw him get arrested.
01:16:20.000In my mind, if you just like erase all the labels you put on people like an Alex Jones or even you or me, it's like if you just take away all those labels and what society is describing them as, to me, he just seems more like an anti-statist than anything.
01:17:16.000They probably don't even know that these girls are underage.
01:17:18.000And next thing you know, they got video of them fucking these underage girls.
01:17:21.000And that's how they get policies passed, and this and that, and they have all this dirt on people, and then they bring in other people to the fold, and they'll reach out, they'll try to bring other people in, like, really?
01:18:06.000I'm telling you though this like his perspective is so skewed because a lot of times first of all the guy feels like very alone right he feels like people shun him and you know he's alone with all this information and he's constantly drinking at the time at least and he feels like he has these moments where he can't tell what's real and what's fake because there's so much that is real When you find out all this shit about Fuck Island with Maxwell and Epstein
01:18:37.000When you find out that the government really did do a thing called Operation Northwoods where they're planning on blowing up a drone jetliner and blaming it on the Cubans and It's like arming Cuban friendlies and having them attack Guantanamo Bay and kill American soldiers, and they were going to blame this on Cuba so we could go to war with Cuba.
01:18:55.000He was telling me about that years ago, too.
01:18:56.000I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:18:58.000But then you read about it in the Freedom of Information Act, and you're like, oh my God, this is all true.
01:20:38.000And you go, they're not going to bring anybody into camps.
01:20:40.000Alex, it's 2021. And then you watch Australia.
01:20:43.000And then there's like camps in Australia where people are going because of COVID. It's like you lose your fucking mind sometimes when you realize that he is right about some of these things.
01:20:48.000But then the Australians are like defending it.
01:21:28.000So many factors just all came together in one moment in history.
01:21:33.000So much fear, and then isolation, and then anxiety, and then this new crazy perspective that these pharmaceutical drug companies are looking out for you.
01:21:44.000Which is like they've never been looking out for you.
01:21:47.000But that's what's crazy is that so this this blind faith in big pharma from what I can see seems to be coming from the left in recent years.
01:21:54.000But traditionally they were very distrustful of big pharma.
01:21:57.000It's just because that you know that Trump guy got out of office.
01:22:01.000If Trump was still in office, like you said, they would all be anti-pharmaceuticals.
01:22:05.000It would be really interesting to see where this country would be in terms of therapeutics and what our perspective would be about vaccine injuries if Trump was still president.
01:22:16.000Because if there was a VAERS report, which is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, if that reporting system was Mm-hmm.
01:23:37.000But the thing is, they're blaming it on South Africa, but the people that showed up positive, all of them were from other countries, and they traveled to South Africa and then showed symptoms of it.
01:23:51.000They could have easily brought it with them.
01:23:53.000And this is what the South African people are saying.
01:23:55.000They're like, we don't have a problem with this virus.
01:25:39.000No, this is as bad as it's ever gotten in terms of the lack of rational thinking, the tribalism, the belief in the government that they have your best interests, the fact that they lie to you on a constant basis.
01:25:59.000What's interesting is this belief that I think everyone has, that our government has been capable of evil, incorrect things in the past, but they never believe that they're capable of it in the moment.
01:26:10.000So we can admit that all these human rights violations have occurred, slavery, like what we did to the Asians, that group.
01:26:18.000So you think that this can't be anything similar to that?
01:27:41.000On a group of nearly 400 African Americans with syphilis.
01:27:45.000The purpose of the study was to observe the effects of the disease when untreated, though by the end of the study, it was entirely treatable.
01:27:55.000So by the end of the study, they had penicillin.
01:28:47.000While the men were provided with both medical and mental care that they otherwise would not have received, they were deceived by the PHS who never informed them of their syphilis diagnosis and provided disguised placebos, ineffective methods, and diagnostic procedures as treatment for,
01:30:48.000But I really think that monoclonal antibodies had the most effect because I've given it to people or had it given to people that I knew that had COVID that didn't get ivermectin.
01:31:15.000Not just better, but testing negative and working out in five days.
01:31:19.000That's something that, and again, I'm not young.
01:31:22.000I'm 54. So that's what people should be looking at, but that's not what they looked at.
01:31:26.000And just the fact that it's not allowed to be, like, your autonomy and your own right to make decisions about your body and your health is so removed from the conversation at this point that it's a taboo to even bring it up or talk about it.
01:31:39.000You're not allowed to discuss whether or not this option's right for you, the vaccine's right for you, it's not.
01:31:44.000It's just, you're treated, we have these new categories of people, new classes of people, the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
01:31:50.000But then you think of, like, that's the MO of the media, is creating categories, playing them against each other.
01:31:55.000And now you literally have the population, not half, less than half that's not vaccinated.
01:31:59.000It's so ironic that if Trump was still in office and we still had the same results, the narrative would be completely different.
01:32:14.000Because people started getting vaccinated in the Biden administration, so all these fucking idiots are just like, yeah, Biden brought the vaccine.
01:32:48.000If you watch interviews from even the beginning of the election cycle, when he was first announcing his candidacy, he just seems more there.
01:34:12.000Yeah, I was shocked that Newsom wasn't recalled.
01:34:14.000I mean, I guess part of me wasn't, but I had moved right before the recall election, and so all my friends were all uptight about it, and I'm like, peace.
01:35:41.000You could tell she saw the entire lens through how people perceived her and her entire worldview.
01:35:47.000You have to invest your time in things that are absolute.
01:35:52.000If you live in an ethereal world, the sort of like fucking vapor world of fame, it's a strange world that ebbs and flows with public opinion.
01:36:03.000You can't rest your own self-belief and your own identity.
01:38:35.000But there also was a few tidbits of our conversation that let me know she wasn't completely out of her mind with fame because She brought up Kylie Jenner to me.
01:38:44.000She's like, oh, my daughter Kylie has a makeup company.
01:38:46.000And just said it in a way as if I wouldn't know who her daughter Kylie was and just a small makeup company or whatever.
01:38:51.000It's like, oh, okay, then you don't just assume I know who your whole family is.
01:39:25.000Yeah, YouTube and Twitter seem to have – they've cultivated an environment of like ruthless criticism and shit talking, which people enjoy.
01:39:37.000Like people enjoy being able to talk shit about a guest or talk shit about the way you handle a guest or talk shit about you.
01:39:44.000And they should be able to, but I don't feel as though I have any obligation to sit there and be like, this person thinks I'm ugly, this person thinks I'm stupid, this person called me a man.
01:40:31.000And sometimes I'm tired, or sometimes I worked out too hard, or sometimes I'm too stoned, and I'm like, what am I even saying while I'm saying it?
01:40:39.000And also, if you really tweak about it, you'll think about the fact that millions of fucking people are listening.
01:40:46.000And then also, I've also adopted this sort of mindset of not believing positive comments or negative comments, because who am I to sit here and really take in someone saying, you're my hero, and you mean all this to me?
01:40:57.000It's because, first of all, you don't fucking know me.
01:40:59.000Even if you love me and are completely nice and accolades and whatever, you don't know me.
01:41:05.000And also from living in LA for the time that I did and just knowing people in the industry or whatever, it's like some of the people who are the most loved online are the fucking most monstrous people in real life.
01:43:14.000Yeah, and then all of a sudden the possibility of transitioning became a lot more real because I was like, oh, I'm having money put in my account every month because of this shit.
01:43:22.000And what do you think started the popularity?
01:43:26.000What was it that made people gravitate towards your channel?
01:43:30.000Because there was a lot of options, even back then.
01:43:33.000There's way more options now, but back then there was quite a few options.
01:43:37.000How did you get people to come to your channel?
01:43:40.000Well, I believe I fill the niche, right?
01:43:43.000So, like, are there really other right-wing perspectives from a trans person online?
01:43:47.000Maybe Caitlin, but that's a whole other thing, you know what I mean?
01:43:50.000So, and I think that also, even though I'm a political commentator by title, I don't just stick to that.
01:44:54.000I mean, I get hate for other reasons, like my beliefs and all that kind of shit, but I very rarely get hate like, oh, you're a fucking tranny.
01:45:05.000Yeah, but he doesn't really do it a lot, but he posts sometimes.
01:45:07.000But if he did it a lot and he had a lot of followers like you do, maybe he wouldn't because then people would know him for other things other than just the fact that he dates you.
01:45:16.000Yeah, that's his claim to deal with YouTube fame.
01:45:34.000Dude, I had like, it was like a couple months ago, like right before I moved, and I don't want to sound like I'm talking shit because it was very sweet, but this girl and her mom came up, and this girl is an adult, I say girl but adult, and she starts bawling,
01:45:50.000like bawling, being like, I transitioned because of you, and you changed my life and all that shit, and she just kept going and going and going, and I felt so, because that's part of like not believing positive comments, it's like, I don't know how to accept people being nice in that way.
01:46:06.000You don't really know the person and you just meet them one day and this outpouring of emotion comes from this person that you've never met before and they have this insane connection to you.
01:46:16.000Because what we're doing, we're both doing the same thing, you and I, right?
01:46:19.000We're putting out our opinions on things and our thoughts on things.
01:46:23.000And some people it resonates and some people it infuriates, right?
01:46:27.000And so you might meet someone that fucking loves you and you've never met them before or you might meet someone that fucking hates you and you never met them before.
01:47:16.000So you're saying that if people have a DMT trip and they didn't see the elves and they think of that person who had that DMT trip as an NPC? As like an NPC. Like you don't have like a soul because you didn't really connect with like any beings.
01:47:32.000But I had the opposite from after doing a DMT. I see so much more humanity in everyone I'm around.
01:47:38.000I feel very changed after doing DMT. It's a very profound experience.
01:47:41.000And I'm just noticing more things about people.
01:47:44.000I'm being more aware of their body language when they talk to me.
01:47:47.000I think it was a very positive thing doing DMT. And my experience was the closest thing to a spiritual experience I've ever had because I've never been a person that's been terribly connected to like Anything larger than me.
01:47:59.000I'd never been religious, never been spiritual.
01:48:01.000And I'd say it was the closest to like a spiritual thing for me.
01:48:06.000I think it's an undeniably spiritual thing.
01:48:09.000And that's the thing about it is like it forces you to think about Love and connection and the bonds that people have with each other in a way that you don't get from anything else.
01:48:20.000The powerful experience of a transcendent psychedelic moment is not like anything else you experience in life other than maybe like a near-death experience.
01:48:32.000But you could argue that they're the same thing.
01:48:35.000I know people that have had near-death experiences that swear that it was like a DMT trip.
01:49:05.000Like, you just get this, for me at least, when I first was hitting it, and then, like, you start to leave the planet, I felt like this intense, like, set of rings going around my body, like, of just warmth and, like, happiness and love.
01:49:20.000And then all of a sudden I'm, like, in space.
01:50:11.000A common experience, people who meet the elves or the jesters, whatever you want to call them, they have something to teach you.
01:50:19.000So for me, it was kind of similar to learning not to take myself seriously, but it was more so don't take life so fucking seriously.
01:50:25.000Trust the process of life because I'm someone who, even though I like to think I have my life pretty together, I still worry about everything so much all the time.
01:51:24.000And the person who was supplying said shrooms basically gave me a huge plate, like this big, stacked it, covered it in shrooms, and said, eat all of them.
01:51:34.000Which is very irresponsible for someone's first time.
01:52:16.000If you were in silent darkness, if you were alone by yourself in the dark and you were laying down on mushrooms and just closed your eyes, it'd be very similar.
01:52:27.000We were walking around and there's something about doing it.
01:52:31.000We were in this neighborhood in Big Bear with all these cabins and I started getting so freaked out that everyone was just watching from their houses.
01:55:00.000So I had a lot of resistance towards ever trying psychedelics for a while because I did grow up in a household where everyone was addicted to drugs and my brother was in prison for a while.
01:55:10.000We're selling drugs and heroin and all that kind of shit, right?
01:55:13.000So I was like, I'm never going to do drugs.
01:55:15.000But then, like, I just see psychedelics a bit different.
01:58:49.000Well, it's also to specialize in that one particular style of art.
01:58:53.000It's like his vision of life was all fucked up and distorted and twisted.
01:59:00.000One of the people I did DMT with wasn't told to not do DMT anymore by the Ls, but was told like, you know you don't have to come back anymore.
01:59:19.000Yeah, I think I haven't done it a couple years though, so maybe I could get back in there and have a conversation.
01:59:24.000But the, like I said, the last time that I did it was probably the most intense and the most weird, because when they were giving me the finger.
01:59:31.000But it was like, I've never like, but it's just, I think sometimes...
01:59:36.000What people do and what I've certainly done is you protect yourself from criticism or you protect yourself from your own analysis of your correct and incorrect thoughts and actions by bullshitting yourself.
01:59:52.000And one of the ways that you realize if you're bullshitting yourself is like, how do you react to satire?
02:00:43.000I mean, whatever the fuck they are, whether they're a part of your consciousness or whether these are intelligent entities in another dimension that you're interacting with.
02:00:52.000See, that is what I've been questioning since doing this.
02:00:54.000So I was told by a friend who's done DMT a lot that after you do DMT, pay attention to the real world.
02:01:01.000And if you believe that the elves are real beings that are independent of something created in your own brain due to the DMT... They'll like send you a sign, right?
02:01:09.000And I was like, again, crackhead shit.
02:01:12.000No, I'm not gonna meet the elves in real life, right?
02:01:15.000So one of the things in my first trip that they kept telling me was this is not the end.
02:01:56.000And then I looked at my friend who told me to look for signs and he's like, told you.
02:02:01.000So I'm like, I mean, I'm not saying that I think that they really are beings.
02:02:06.000I'm going back and forth between that.
02:02:08.000You know what, I got the impression, I've gotten the impression of this before, but I got the impression after the last time that I did it, that the world that you and I are operating in right now, like this conscious waking world of tangible physical objects you can touch and feel and weigh, is like a thin sliver of veneer that we're existing in.
02:02:28.000We're existing in this thin sliver of space and we're connected to this thing that we can't experience under normal conscious states.
02:02:38.000And this thing is constantly being affected and changed by what's happening in this thin sliver of veneer.
02:02:47.000So all the thoughts that you have, all the behavior that you exhibit, all the actions that you take, All of those things that exist in this thin veneer is affecting all of this that's going on in eternity, that there's this infinite space of whatever these things are,
02:03:06.000whether they're souls or interdimensional creatures or beings, but that the way you interact with other people has a direct effect on that world and that world has a direct effect on the way you interact with people.
02:03:21.000And that you have to develop some sort of harmony.
02:03:24.000And I think that people struggle to do that throughout history.
02:03:27.000And that's one of the reasons why religion is so, it's so common.
02:03:33.000It's not just common, it's amongst all tribes, they've always had a belief, almost all of them, almost all major civilizations have had a belief in something larger than themselves.
02:03:46.000And whether it's gods or whether it's like a lot of the Native Americans thought that a lot of their gods existed in nature.
02:03:54.000The gods of animals and coyotes were gods and the sun was a god and that there's some...
02:04:01.000Larger than this current experience thing that we must pay homage to, that we must give praise to, that we must feel the divine intervention of these other realms.
02:04:17.000And it just exists in all cultures, in all societies.
02:04:20.000And I think part of that is because there's moments in time where you recognize And you can have these moments in time, whether it's the birth of a child, whether it's true love, whether it's just the bonding between friends in an incredible moment in life where you feel like you get just a chance for a second to peek your head through the clouds.
02:04:40.000Yeah, and see that there's something more, and that you're somehow or another connected to this.
02:04:44.000But our monkey bodies will not allow us to see it.
02:04:49.000To survive, you can't really live in that realm.
02:04:53.000For most of human history, if you wanted to survive, you had to be a barbarian.
02:04:57.000You had to be savage, you had to have knives and tools, and you have to be able to fight off predators and warring tribes that want to invade you.
02:05:05.000You couldn't live in the spiritual realm until they figured out how to stockpile ammunition and food and develop walls.
02:05:16.000But that is one of the first things, at least for me and my experience with GMT, both times I tripped, the first thing that happened, other than those warm rings of love I talked about before, is I felt my body disappear.
02:05:28.000Almost part by part, I felt my hair disappear.
02:05:31.000I felt like the clothes I was wearing became stupid.
02:05:35.000I instantly lost sense of my body and the meat that I'm here in.
02:05:40.000And it's funny because leading up to doing it, my friend was like, I'm a little concerned that you're going to go into this and then come out and be like, I'm a man.
02:06:59.000I filmed a video, my DMT experience, and the whole time I was talking about it, I was like, 90% of people that watch it are going to think I'm a fucking crackhead now.
02:07:07.000But once you experience it, you realize it is real.
02:07:10.000And for me, like I said, because I've never been connected to anything higher than me, maybe people will hear that and think that, oh, this is a very shallow, worldly person in the worst way.
02:07:47.000But that, whatever that is, is very similar to what we used to be.
02:07:51.000We used to be some weird, crazy, brutal primate.
02:07:55.000And now we're still pretty crazy and pretty brutal, but we're moving into some strange new realm where we're eventually going to look like this.
02:08:04.000Like if you think about what that is versus what this is, like this is the direction we're going in and that's the direction we came from.
02:08:10.000And we're still trapped in this body of muscle and sinew and tissue and hormones and the need to breed and the need to be accepted by the community to achieve status so that your social status encourages more people to breed with you.
02:08:39.000I feel like I'm like a more or less rather materialistic person suddenly.
02:08:46.000Like I tried to go to the mall the other day and I was like, maybe I should go get like a purse or buy some shit that costs way too much for no reason.
02:09:31.000Everybody wants to look at the end of their life as being some magic time where they're just going to be happy, sitting around on the porch, drinking lemonade.
02:09:39.000I guess I just am a pessimist by nature and I see the direction that society is going in and it's kind of like just worrisome.
02:09:47.000And so I envision the antithesis of what we have now, which is the state more and more in your life, people telling you what to do, people in your shit to the point where you can't go to a restaurant in some places without getting a medical procedure and then getting it checked by a minimum age worker at the front of the business.
02:12:03.000None of my friends have a ton in common because I'm just attracted to individuals.
02:12:06.000Rather than like, this person thinks like me, so this is my friend.
02:12:09.000I have those, but I like having people that are completely different.
02:12:12.000The Log Cabin Republicans might be the bridge.
02:12:16.000Those might be the people that can pull everybody together because they can check off all these ideological boxes in terms of sexual orientation and being open-minded to LBGTQ issues like, hey, he's gay but he's also conservative.
02:12:36.000So, Michael Malice and I have discussed this theory that, like, the best way to red pill people is to achieve, like, acceptance of LGBT people in the right-wing spaces because people aren't going to go to, like,
02:13:02.000But when you alienate LGBT people, you're alienating their friends and their family.
02:13:08.000You're alienating the girl who loves to go shopping with her gay best friend, teenage girls, you know what I mean?
02:13:13.000And it's like, maybe just chill off that shit.
02:13:16.000There's a lot of values you probably shouldn't compromise on if you're a true conservative, but whether or not someone's taking it up the ass or wants to be a girl, that's your biggest fucking...
02:13:24.000It's the dumbest value to concentrate on.
02:13:26.000It is, but it's like the main value for so many of them.
02:13:28.000Well, it's a fear, and it's a weird religious thing, too, because, like, in the Bible, you know, homosexuality in the Old Testament is frowned upon.
02:13:46.000I don't think conservatives really do that.
02:13:47.000There's a lot of shit in the Bible that's very wacky.
02:13:50.000But they concentrate on the gay one for some...
02:13:54.000I mean, I don't know what it—maybe back in the time—see, one of the major theories about the advent of Christianity has to do with psychedelic drugs.
02:14:02.000There's a guy named John Marco Allegro, and he was an ordained minister, and he was on the Dead Sea Scrolls Translation Committee, the group of people that were translating the Dead Sea Scrolls.
02:14:30.000So he's like, I'm not going to have any ideological perspective when it comes to religion.
02:14:34.000I'm agnostic, even though he was an ordained minister.
02:14:37.000So when he was hired and when he was Brought on as part of one of the experts on languages to translate the oldest known version of the Bible.
02:14:50.000And I think it's the only version of the Bible that we have that's in Aramaic.
02:14:53.000And when he translated Dead Sea Scrolls over, I believe it was over 14 years, he wrote a book called The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross.
02:15:02.000And what he said was that all of this stuff, That you're reading is, you know, there's translations.
02:15:10.000You're translating things from ancient Hebrew, which is a language that's based on numbers.
02:15:28.000The way it was explained to me was that language in ancient Hebrew had numerical value, that words had numerical value, like the word love and the word God.
02:15:39.000That using these words in the way you would place the letters, it was because it had a number value to it that we don't think of when it gets translated to Greek, into Latin, to English.
02:15:52.000And so he read this all these years and he came to the conclusion that this is all a misunderstanding and that our version of what Christianity is.
02:16:36.000So his thought was, I think, or the thought is, that the reason why they didn't want people to be homosexual is because they wouldn't have children.
02:16:45.000And if you're homosexual and you're not having children, you're not helping to contribute to the population because people are dying off.
02:16:52.000They would have rituals to try to bring babies into the world.
02:16:56.000They would try to make people more pregnant, more fertile.
02:17:01.000A fertility ritual was a big part of these ancient religions.
02:17:07.000Infant mortality was so high, people died.
02:17:09.000If you got a fucking cut and it got infected, you're dead.
02:17:17.000I mean, that would make kind of sense if you were thinking about it from the context of people who lived 8,000 plus years ago, whatever it was.
02:17:24.000I guess that's just why I've always respected religious freedom.
02:17:28.000I see that it does something positive in many people I know's lives, and I think that that's great.
02:17:35.000But I've always been so removed from even caring or understanding religion or why people think that we should be reading books from thousands of years ago to determine how we live now.
02:17:45.000It's always been a very weird concept to me.
02:17:48.000Like, I've always been not an atheist because I don't even care enough to say atheist.
02:17:52.000I've always just been like, I don't care if there's a God or not.
02:18:37.000Maybe, but I did get the sense that this jester that was talking to me, this elf, this clown, this crazy bitch, I had the sense that she's been around me forever.
02:19:07.000But that's what gets me questioning if these really are beings independent of what our brain could create or that actually exist on some level.
02:19:17.000There are, like, uniform experiences with certain things, like on shrooms, like, oh, the table's gonna warp, and you're gonna look at your dog, and your dog's gonna look funny, and whatever.
02:19:28.000But, like, to actually see, like, what we perceive to be, like, autonomous beings, and for people to have similar recountings of what they look like, it's gonna be, like...
02:20:28.000I'm a huge baby because I saw what I thought was like the entryway to hell.
02:20:33.000I didn't go fully in but I saw like it and it was really scary.
02:20:39.000Yeah, I saw like just suffering and pain and like I don't know if it's like the traditional like hell in terms of like in the Bible or whatever but I saw just like an area that you would never want to go.
02:20:52.000Well, whether or not hell exists, there's hell on earth.
02:20:57.000Like, if you are carted off to a concentration camp and tortured, if you live in North Korea, if you live in China, if you're a Uyghur Muslim in China and your whole family gets thrown into a train and shipped off to some work camp and tortured and...
02:21:12.000You know, I mean, think of all the horrific things that happened during the Holocaust, all the horrific things that have happened in many genocides, what the fucking the Mongols did during the wrath of the Khan.
02:21:27.000Imagine living during a time of Genghis Khan and you watch these people torture your whole family, cut the limbs off of your children and throw them at you and laugh and light your fucking building on fire and People throughout history have done horrendous things to other people.
02:21:44.000And the terrifying part is like you don't even have to look to history to see it because a lot of it's happening right now.
02:21:57.000So I admit to have been completely ignorant about the realities of North Korea until I found her channel.
02:22:03.000And I'll watch videos and the things that she'll describe in the experiences.
02:22:06.000It's like, I am the luckiest person on earth to simply have not been fucking born there.
02:22:11.000And you hear her stories of seeing starving, deformed people on the streets and children eating rats and just the craziest shit that there's no concept of from this bitch who was born in California and moved to Texas.
02:22:26.000Right, you think it's hard that you were in a small town.
02:22:43.000One of the things I've been very thankful for is I never really had a real job before YouTube and the life I have now.
02:22:49.000So I don't really necessarily have a concept of like toiling and like maybe what life could be if I was like struggling really hard for money or whatever.
02:22:56.000And he is older than me and he tells me all the time he's like you need to be thankful for what you have because your life is literally phenomenal.
02:23:03.000Like the fact that you can just be you for a living and just talk to your friends for a living and like you don't have to worry about shit like that.
02:23:10.000It's like Don't ever lose gratitude for that.
02:27:32.000But then you think of how many kids are growing up in the inner cities and in bad communities and they can never make that connection that what you're seeing is the wrong thing to do.
02:27:40.000So maybe it was the internet now that I'm thinking about it.
02:27:42.000I was able to kind of see people live other lives through MySpace and through...
02:28:13.000When I think of a conservative Republican, I think of someone whose ideology is reinforced by religious beliefs, and that's not me.
02:28:21.000But if you say center-right to most people, they would say you're a conservative.
02:28:24.000Well, of course, but they also call me far-right and say that you're associating with far-right people that really aren't, you know what I mean?
02:28:32.000For me, if anything, I think that there is just more of a sense on the right, usually, towards individualism rather than collectivism.
02:28:41.000And that's something that really spoke to me when I turned 18, when I started realizing, well, if I'm going to be trans and I'm going to figure out how to get the money to transition and live this very specific life that's not going to be supported by many people around me, I'm going to have to be like a complete individual and be okay with that and really take my life into my own hands and manifest what I want to do and be a capitalist.
02:34:06.000Imagine if someone had come to you when you were seven or eight and said, hey Blair, I think what's really going on is you're trans and we can help you now and it would greatly improve the way you feel, how feminine you are when you go through puberty because we're going to stop it and nip it in its bud.
02:34:50.000Some sort of like ideological shift halfway through and been like, well, maybe even though I think I'm trans, maybe transition isn't the right way to deal with it.
02:35:09.000Yeah, and there's some evidence to that, but the problem with that evidence is just the fact that trans people exist in the first place shows you that there's so much variety to how human beings are.
02:35:23.000There's clearly some sort of a spectrum of people, and some people would be fine just being a gay man, but some people don't think will, and I don't think...
02:35:32.000Well that's the thing is I think two things can be true at once and that's kind of like the problem with this whole issue is that I have met trans people who transitioned very I know a girl who transitioned when she was literally 12 I believe and her whole family hid from the school and the rest of her family they literally they didn't fake her death but they kind of just stopped talking about her existing and then she became a girl and they just had a daughter and no one ever talked about it Isn't that weird?
02:35:59.000But she transitioned at 12, so her whole life, and she's happy.
02:36:19.000And especially being me because I've been publicly empathetic towards those people and I'm one of the few trans people that is public online that talks about it.
02:37:36.000And if I go to an LGBT club or bar here in Austin or LA or whatever, I can't really walk more than two feet without people showing love and gratitude and whatever.
02:37:45.000So in real life, people are nice to you?
02:37:47.000Oh yeah, I've never had anyone be mean to me in real life.
02:38:23.000But it's also the idea of hating someone versus meeting them and realizing that they're just a person and not really hating them, just meeting them and knowing, oh, it's just another human being.
02:38:35.000Like, the idea of hating someone you don't know is really kind of crazy, unless you're hating Hitler.
02:38:43.000You're hating some barbarian, some horrible person who's responsible for death or destruction or whatever, you know.
02:38:51.000If you just hate someone based on something that you think you can attribute to them, like to you, the hate her because she's against kids transitioning, it's so easy to say you hate someone.
02:39:06.000Yeah, that's a one of the major problems with our culture is that so many people don't know how to think and so many people are what I mean Don't know how to think like they don't recognize that a lot of times they're being negative It's just to distract themselves from their own real problems and it's often projection.
02:39:23.000Yes, that's why I like so when Dave Chappelle thing happened and they had these protests one of the trans activists I believe her name was Ashley Marie Preston or something like that That's the one who had all the hateful tweets?
02:39:57.000Well, people are hypocrites and they want attention.
02:39:59.000And then, you know, the thing is, they think the way to get attention is if you are in a marginalized group and that group has been attacked, and you can stand up and say the most forceful, loud thing about this person who has, in your opinion, attacked this marginalized group, it gives you clout.
02:40:15.000You know, there's a lot of people that just get clout from enhancing negativity, you know, and just projecting it.
02:40:21.000Yeah, and then, so you're friends with Dave Chappelle.
02:42:04.000Well, they don't see it because they think they're great because they're narcissists, right?
02:42:09.000And so their perspective is anybody that gets way further than them, first of all, they feel bad when they find out that, you know, Kevin Hart's selling out 50,000 seats or that this person's doing that or, you know, Sebastian sold out Madison Square Garden four nights in a row and they're just like...
02:43:51.000There's some people that have done a deep dive into how many tweets were actually directed towards Daphne and how many of them were really negative.
02:43:59.000The thing they don't take into account, though, is DMs.
02:44:22.000I think that the feeling of ostracization from your own community to be a trans person who is suddenly like, shit, now how do I even face any of my probably mostly LGBT friends?
02:45:19.000It's just the deep dive they did was that she was dragged on Twitter, and they tried to find examples.
02:45:25.000But the thing about that is, again, people do delete things, and then particularly they delete things right after someone fucking kills themselves.
02:47:01.000That's unfortunate, you know, because you would think that the people that have experienced the most discrimination would theoretically at least be the most open-minded and compassionate to others.
02:47:15.000The places where I feel the most comfortable, rooms I feel the most comfortable in, are the rooms people would never expect me to be able to be in and feel comfortable.
02:47:25.000I mean, there's a difference between the narrative of a person and who they really are.
02:47:30.000So you have been called transphobic, like you said.
02:47:45.000If I believed all the things that trans activists said, I would have maybe felt like I was in a room full of fucking dudes that were going to beat me up or something.
02:47:52.000That was such a clusterfuck of a podcast.
02:48:40.000He's got an RV that's got microphones and desks and he's got like a control center and there's a big television so they could show videos and clips on it.
02:49:07.000I'm okay with being out testosterone by fucking Alex Jones and Joe Rogan and temple like I'm okay with not being the loudest bitch in the room in that room well Everybody was just it was just there were so many voices It's too many doesn't it doesn't work like and I say that when I do podcasts people like if I'm want to talk to someone and it's It's a fun conversation and they want to bring a friend that I know I'm like,
02:49:29.000yeah, I'll be fine Well, the three of us would be a good time, but even three people that's even a rare for you Well, it's rare.
02:49:35.000It's also hard because when I'm talking to someone, I want to let them talk.
02:49:41.000And then I'm also trying to think of like, should I talk?
02:50:25.000And it's something I've been aware of everything that I've done in the past few years.
02:50:30.000So I do something, and then a bunch of people get mad about it, and so they post about it.
02:50:36.000Because people want to post about shit they hate more than what they love.
02:50:39.000And it's like, okay, so let's say there's a tweet bashing me with, I don't know, let's say 10,000 likes.
02:50:46.000So maybe those 10,000 people are agreeing with that, but how many people are viewing it with impressions, and then even if it's like 1,000 people that are like, actually, she seems cool, that's 1,000 new people coming my way.
02:50:58.000You do work for me if you're bashing me.
02:51:00.000The best thing you could ever do to someone you hate online, if you hate me, well, maybe not tell them to do that, but just don't fucking talk about me, bitch.
02:51:07.000People don't understand that most of the time you're wasting your time.
02:51:11.000And also, if your business is just to bash a person, You're connecting yourself as a subservient.
02:51:19.000You're connecting yourself as inferior to this person, whether you realize it or not.
02:51:24.000If you're constantly criticizing them, they don't even respond about you, you're their bitch.
02:51:59.000I'm figuring out what I did wrong if I did anything wrong and a way to retaliate and that used to be me and now I'm like I Don't give a fuck the people that do that all day and go back and forth and make response videos and attack videos.
02:53:36.000But what I was saying was, I did the Dr. Phil episode, and there was, like, this YouTuber, I didn't watch the video, but I saw, like, a thumbnail come up and I recommended it.
02:53:45.000It was like, Blair White's doing the Dr. Phil show, and I'm terrified.
02:53:48.000And it was like a fucking hour-long video, however long it was, I remember, about how it was so bad, probably, that Dr. Phil's in a deplat for me.