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00:00:28.000So tell me what you were just telling me about a conference.
00:00:31.000We were having a conversation where I was saying, I wonder how many undercover feds have either gotten on the podcast or tried to get on the podcast.
00:00:37.000Yeah, it's like I've had a couple places.
00:00:39.000One, I had this guy come up to me and we were like just in the crowd, right?
00:00:43.000It wasn't like I just got off stage or anything like that.
00:00:45.000And he comes up to me and he's like, you know, if we had to narrow it down to, like, you know, the top 10, 12 individuals pulling all this crazy stuff that's going on in the world, could you name who they are?
00:04:50.000He is the, I guess, chairman, CEO of this thing called the World Economic Forum, which is like a billionaire's club where fancy pants people like, you know, titans of industry, government officials, NGO people, all the big philanthropists can show up and like rub elbows at Davos and chill out.
00:05:35.000See if you can find the video of him introducing Xi Jinping, because he gives this bizarrely glowing introduction to the leader of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:06:14.000China has made significant economic and social achievements under your leadership.
00:06:22.000In the first three quarters of 2021, China's economy grew by over 9%.
00:06:29.000You have achieved a historic goal to become a moderately prosperous society in all respects.
00:06:41.000Mr. President, I strongly echo your remarks in 2017 that mankind has made progress by surmounting difficulties.
00:06:54.000And when encountering difficulties, we should join hands and rise to the challenge.
00:07:01.000I believe this is the best time for leaders to come together and work jointly For the world to become more inclusive, more sustainable, and more prosperous.
00:07:17.000We now welcome His Excellency Xi Jinping, President of the People's Republic of China.
00:07:41.000And if you listen, actually, I don't think we should try to deal with listening to all of what Xi says, but he's like, you know, he goes into this whole thing.
00:07:53.000He's all like, you know, there's an old Chinese saying.
00:07:57.000That everything contains its contradictions.
00:07:59.000That's actually an old Marxist saying is that everything contains its contradictions.
00:08:03.000The Taoists don't – I mean they have that with the yin-yang thing but they don't really have everything contains its own contradiction.
00:08:09.000They say things contain their opposites which is different.
00:08:12.000And so Marx was like everything contains its own contradiction which capitalism makes a lot of wealth but then it makes a lot of poor people so it's got its own contradiction.
00:08:20.000And he says we got to lean into the – she said – to paraphrase him, we got to lean into the contradictions.
00:08:25.000What Lenin said when people were starving, like he's like literally starving people and killing people.
00:08:31.000He's like accelerate the contradictions because if you make them see how terrible life is by showing them the contradictions, oh, we're supposed to have this great society and look, you're suffering, you're starving.
00:08:40.000Then they'll want to have a revolution.
00:08:42.000And so it's like that's the thing that Schwab there just introduced was his speech about that.
00:08:49.000He also says we can't think of ourselves anymore as like 190 little boats like the different countries of the world to solve problems like climate change or I guess COVID. That went real well.
00:08:59.000And we got to think of ourselves as one big boat, like one world government or something.
00:09:03.000And then – She is the guy that's the model for this.
00:09:07.000And then we see Mr. Spacesuit there saying, I strongly echo your comments.
00:09:27.000But what he says is that COVID-19 is the ideal window of opportunity, a very narrow window of opportunity to reset the whole world's economy.
00:09:36.000And he wants to create this whole new world economy he calls stakeholder capitalism.
00:10:09.000Well, this Great Reset thing is the big tinfoil hat conspiracy theory conversation, that we're experiencing the Great Reset, and that they crashed the economy on purpose.
00:10:21.000I don't think that's true in terms of what they did to Los Angeles.
00:10:25.000I think it's incompetence, and I think there's a bunch of people that wanted to do something That showed that they were trying to enact measures to protect people.
00:10:35.000And in doing that, they crippled a lot of these restaurants and bars and small businesses.
00:10:41.000And they did it because it didn't affect them at all financially.
00:10:45.000Like, if it had any effect on them financially.
00:11:12.000You would never see, like, I have a friend, she lives in Mexico, and she was telling me that in Mexico, nothing's shutting down because the cartels won't allow it.
00:11:59.000Well, I mean what that tells you then is that there's either absolute disconnect with politicians or that they're being taken care of some other way.
00:12:09.000That's the conspiratorial side, that there's money coming in some other way.
00:12:14.000So their paycheck is not dependent upon the economy locally, but it's dependent on some other factor.
00:12:19.000Well, in local government, it's depending upon taxes.
00:12:22.000Like my friend, his brother works for the whatever COVID response thing in California.
00:12:29.000And there was a conversation when they were shutting down outdoor dining at one point in time.
00:12:33.000And he protested and he said, there is no evidence that there's any spread that's because of outdoor dining or any outdoor activities.
00:12:46.000So this was a conversation he had with a real public official who's in charge of making these decisions.
00:12:53.000So this idea that it's all motivated by some conspiracy to reset the economy, I don't think that's the case.
00:13:00.000I think what's going on is that there's a lot of incompetence and a lot of really dumb people, a lot of foolish people that are running some aspects of government.
00:13:08.000Then you have people that are taking advantage of that.
00:13:10.000And the billionaires are most certainly getting richer.
00:13:13.000By definition, if you close mom-and-pop stores, where are people going to buy their stuff?
00:13:18.000Well, they're going to have to go to Target.
00:13:19.000They're going to have to go to the big places.
00:13:37.000So do you think that places like San Francisco and areas of California where they've enacted these really fucking stupid laws where you can steal up to 900 and something dollars worth of stuff and they don't arrest you at all?
00:13:50.000So people just grab stuff, they throw it in a bag and they walk right out the door and no one does anything to stop it.
00:13:55.000Do you think that those laws are enacted knowing that they're going to kill these businesses?
00:14:01.000Knowing that this is going to prop up Online businesses like Amazon and larger places that have the ability to do that.
00:14:11.000Well, you know, I'm in my 40s, which means that I never underestimate any longer the depths of human stupidity.
00:14:18.000So it is possible that they're just stupid and don't realize the extraordinarily obvious thing that literally everybody yells at them.
00:14:27.000No, I actually – I'm inclined to believe that they know to some degree what they're doing and I wouldn't even be surprised to find out that there's some kind of weird backroom deals.
00:14:35.000And that's what this new economy is supposed to be.
00:17:24.000The Department of Justice is investigating moms and dads for showing up to school boards.
00:17:30.000They're also investigating maybe some real crime, but not the guy that came here to Texas from Britain who shouldn't have been able to even get in.
00:18:30.000It's just the weirdest farcical thing.
00:18:33.000And then meanwhile, the big joke that was going on the internet with it was, well, they didn't have time to catch this guy coming into the country because they were too busy investigating parents at school board meetings who were showing up because of that letter, right?
00:18:49.000Trevor Burrus So somewhere in the – it's now been shown.
00:18:52.000Like actual journalists – Azrin Amani, for example, I think it was leading on this – dug up proof that somebody in the Biden administration, maybe the Department of Education, maybe it was Cardona himself, gets this letter, this memo, and it goes to the National School Board Association,
00:19:08.000NSBA. And so they actually just send it back to the Biden administration and say – Parents are showing up at school boards.
00:19:20.000Sent it to the School Board Association, which most of its members didn't even know that this was happening, and a lot of them have disavowed it.
00:19:26.000And then they send it back to the DOJ, and then Merrick Garland comes out and says that they're going to start watching parents at school board meetings like they're domestic terrorists.
00:19:38.000Now, I did hear about that, but is it because they're worried that there's going to come a time where a parent crosses a line and shows up armed and does something insane?
00:19:51.000I mean, that's the perpetual justification for that kind of thing.
00:19:56.000But at the same time, they literally sent out a memo to treat parents showing up at school board meetings as though they are domestic.
00:20:46.000So they have to have two people each time.
00:20:48.000And so anyway, McAuliffe came out and he said that they don't want – that parents shouldn't have a role in shaping curriculum and that they don't want that going on amid these huge scandals.
00:20:59.000You know, they have this – exactly what people said would happen a number of years ago.
00:21:03.000This kid claiming to be – it's clearly disturbed, claiming to be non-binary, wearing a skirt, goes in and rapes a ninth-grade girl in the bathroom.
00:21:21.000And then the school's – like the school district covers it up.
00:21:24.000They tried to tell the parents to keep their mouth shut about it.
00:21:27.000Yeah, and they – All these activists showed up when the dad of the girl comes to this meeting or whatever and they provoke him and he like flipped out.
00:21:35.000I don't remember if he hit somebody or if he just started screaming at me.
00:21:54.000They think that the school is the professionals, the experts, and that they know the best policies for masks.
00:22:00.000They know the best policies for curriculum.
00:22:02.000That's where they're getting all this social-emotional learning and critical race theory and the queer theory, gender theory stuff rammed into the schools.
00:22:09.000And they're like, no, parents, if you don't like this, you're not the experts.
00:22:14.000And you're seeing school boards where they're not taking public comments or they're limiting those rather significantly now because I don't think they do want parents speaking up.
00:22:25.000I don't think they want parents involved at this point.
00:22:28.000The thing about it is if you look at it reasonably, like if there was any other time in history, in the history of my life, And you thought of parents coming in to tell teachers how the kids should be taught.
00:22:42.000You're like, well, what do the parents know?
00:22:44.000But then when you see some of the ridiculous shit that kids are getting taught in school today, and then if you follow, like, libs of TikTok...
00:22:57.000It's so bizarre to see these people making these videos because they're doing it like out in the open.
00:23:03.000They're like, we are going to teach your kids the right things.
00:23:05.000We are going to teach your kids to respect us.
00:23:08.000We are going to teach your kids whatever theories that they want.
00:23:12.000And they're doing it in this weird, arrogant assertion that they're going to indoctrinate these children into their ideology, and they're literally mocking or taunting the parents that we're going to do this to your kids.
00:23:25.000And I don't understand the motivation.
00:23:27.000I don't understand why they would make those videos.
00:23:29.000I don't understand why anybody would hire those people to be teachers and why they wouldn't fire them immediately upon seeing those videos.
00:23:36.000I know they did fire that one teacher.
00:23:40.000I think it was a professor who was talking about people who are attracted to underage people that we shouldn't call them pedophiles.
00:25:20.000He says, no, they went to the classroom.
00:25:22.000And so a lot of those radicals, those violent radicals, 68, 69, early 70s, we could name Angela Davis, for example, as a key figure, literally went to K-12 activism.
00:25:32.000And through the 70s, they kind of prepared the ground.
00:25:35.000By about 1985, though, what this so-called critical turn in education, which means critical theory, or as this Gotsman says, he says, we shouldn't call it critical theory.
00:26:08.000He's got this total weird idea like – Teachers and students, kids, adults and children shouldn't have like a differential in power.
00:26:16.000They should be like equals with one another, which is a terrible idea because kids need structure and boundaries and especially in a learning environment.
00:26:23.000Why would anybody – what's the motivation behind that?
00:26:26.000The goal is to train them in what he calls conscientization.
00:26:31.000It's a hard word to say and here we are.
00:26:33.000But to raise in them what's called a critical consciousness, which is a Marxist consciousness of oppression in society.
00:26:39.000Basically, he's looking around and he says people are going to realize that they're dependent based on the society that they live in.
00:26:45.000And rather than saying, OK, maybe you are, you know, maybe you're working a shit job, maybe you're stuck.
00:26:51.000Let's teach you responsibility how to take control of your own life and, you know, raise yourself up and work hard and put your head down or whatever.
00:26:59.000He says, no, we're going to go the collective route instead of the individual route.
00:27:03.000We're going to try to have a revolution.
00:27:06.000Freire famously says in this book from 85, which brought him into the U.S., a book called The Politics of Education, he says that the revolution, meaning The communist revolution has to be perpetual.
00:27:18.000He says if a revolution ceases to be a revolutionary, it becomes a status quo.
00:27:23.000And so he says as you awaken to this critical consciousness, this conscientization, which I still can't say – well, I've even got it stuck in Portuguese in my head.
00:27:32.000I don't read Portuguese but it's usually not translated and I can say that worse.
00:27:37.000Like that's way bad if I try that one, consciência tchau or something like that.
00:27:42.000Anyway, it means to awaken to consciousness.
00:27:44.000And so their goal by the mid-'80s in education was to start turning education more and more and more along this erase all power differentials, awaken a consciousness, and this queer theory stuff fits right within that.
00:27:59.000So you're doing that at the identity level by breaking down the barriers between gay and straight, male and female, etc.
00:28:36.000This has been a thing that they've done throughout – It's a lot of communist attempts whether in the 20s and 30s and then again in the 60s with Herbert Marcuse leading like the sexual liberation kind of side of Marxism through the 60s and they're doing it again.
00:28:55.000They started to take over education schools and they're not going to say no to this stuff when it comes knocking on the door.
00:29:02.000So this book again Critical turn in education says it went in three stages.
00:29:07.000First, there was Marxist critiques in education.
00:29:09.000Then by the mid-80s and early 90s, the post-structuralist feminists took over the critique of education, and that's where they brought the queer stuff in.
00:29:17.000And I mean queer with like official queer theory.
00:29:19.000I'm not doing the – just to be clear for the people who hate us.
00:29:56.000The whole last third of the paper is criticizing it gets better, saying, well, that means he's just admitting that it's bad for kids.
00:30:04.000It's this message of hope that was super effective at curbing kids.
00:30:08.000And it gets better means reaching out to young gay kids to tell them that there's going to come a point in time where it's going to feel okay.
00:30:30.000And he even has this messaging in there like it's going to make you stronger.
00:30:33.000You know, it's super positive, actually.
00:30:35.000And so she just takes him to task for this.
00:30:37.000So this is the post-structural feminists turned into the queer theorists.
00:30:42.000They got eaten up by Judith Butler coming along and saying, well, if gender is a social construct, well, maybe sex is a social construct, too.
00:30:48.000Have you heard Douglas Murray talk about this?
00:31:17.000Like when he starts talking about these considerable issues when it comes to trying to figure out what's what, he can kind of get away with stuff.
00:31:28.000And when he explains that at the end of all these civilizations with the Roman...
00:31:33.000Civilization, the Greek Empire, they all started falling into this thing where they wanted to redefine gender.
00:31:44.000They go from being like these super buff dudes and like sexy babes and then, you know, all of a sudden they all look like, you know, an anime character or something.
00:32:18.000We're totally connected to one another.
00:32:20.000We can form our alliances now worldwide.
00:32:24.000Based on what we think, what we agree with, what we think is funny, what we don't, rather than, oh yeah, we all happen to be in Texas, so we've got to get along.
00:32:32.000Also, the amount of people that are interacting on social media is not like, you know, I did a bit about it last night.
00:32:41.000It's not the large percentage of the population.
00:32:44.000It's a small percentage of the population that's shaping the The way the culture thinks about things because they're the ones that are talking the most.
00:33:09.000We suddenly went from, with the advent of social media, we went from an era where extroverts, by kind of definition, kind of ruled the public sphere.
00:33:18.000Introverts did a lot of important work.
00:34:01.000And so they started this thing with these different approaches to diversity training, what we would recognize as so-called diversity training now.
00:34:07.000And the first program they had, they called it putting them on the hot seat.
00:34:11.000And what they would do is they would basically do what diversity training in workplaces does now.
00:34:16.000Some guy down there and make him confess all of his different racist ideas and then have like a lesson about it and like everybody would have to confess their racist stuff and they put the black people there and like, oh, I've always thought this bad stuff about you.
00:34:27.000And what they found out was that for a small percentage of the group, it worked.
00:34:32.000It made them more aware of these attitudes and biases and what a jerk they're being, and it worked.
00:34:37.000And then for most of the people, they actually had way less of a problem with race than anybody was assuming, and it didn't really do anything.
00:34:44.000Plus, it's all just kind of a waste of time and nobody likes administrative BS anyway.
00:34:50.000But then for another small segment, maybe about – I don't know what percentage, so I don't want to make some number up, but some small percentage, they literally became fanatics.
00:36:08.000Okay, this is a big idea because it's the idea that a very small...
00:36:14.000That group of extremely intolerant people can change a very large number of normal people.
00:36:20.000So 3% or 4% being just absolutely intolerant can move the entire needle.
00:36:25.000And the way it works – the example – I saw this video on YouTube, so I'm stealing this.
00:36:29.000The way it works though is like you can imagine like a family of four and you got like, you know, the daughter or whatever decides she's vegan.
00:36:39.000And so like whoever's cooking, the parents are like, well, I can cook two meals or I can, you know, get in a fight every night at dinner or I can just cook some vegan stuff.
00:36:52.000And all of your options are basically, unless you're going to go kind of like hard-nosed, all of your options are kind of bad except just keep the peace and that's it.
00:37:23.000And so what can happen is like the whole neighborhood now has to accommodate vegans, but there's one vegan, right?
00:37:28.000And you can just see how this expands out.
00:37:30.000This process is called renormalization.
00:37:32.000So when you have this small contingent of obsessives, Which these people who are in these Marxist ideologies – woke Marxism is what I – I don't even call it woke anymore.
00:37:43.000Woke Marxists are completely obsessives, and they're completely intolerant.
00:37:48.000Anything but their way is sexist, racist – Probably capitalist, patriarchal, and you are the worst kind of person and the dumbest person and probably crazy for not going along with them.
00:37:59.000And they can renormalize an entire, say, social media platform, at which point they have this massive amount of dominance over the national discourse.
00:38:08.000Well, especially if that kind of ideology gets into the administration of that social media platform, which it has on basically all of them.
00:38:19.000My friend Giannis Papas just got a strike against his account on YouTube.
00:38:23.000And I'm going to read you the transcript of what they struck, because this is wild shit.
00:38:29.000Because it's gotten to the point where it doesn't have to have anything to do with It has nothing to do with bullying, nothing to do with hate.
00:38:44.000And he makes a point, or he makes a joke that is essentially...
00:38:52.000You know, I mean, he's just being silly about the gay pride parade.
00:38:56.000And he said, I support gay rights, but can we move the gay parade tonight so I can explain gay rights to my daughter without having to see your asshole before noon?
00:41:15.000He said that to try to diminish what Josh Zeps has been saying about Australia because he works for Australian media and he's trying to be nice-nice over there.
00:41:27.000You know, and it didn't, Josh, and he lives there, and I think, you know, sometimes people, when they work for an organization that is going along with the government's rules and guidelines, and they think everything's good and fine, and you don't live in Australia, so you don't know.
00:41:41.000We're all vaccinated, so we're free, and you're wrong, and this is right.
00:41:45.000Like, you're not convincing me by telling me that people like Majid Nawaz are alt-right.
00:42:45.000They've somehow or another decided that an individual can be, like, you could, it's almost like a cure to the reality of whatever he's exposing.
00:42:55.000Like, you could say, oh, it doesn't matter because it's James O'Keefe.
00:42:58.000And you can put that on top of the thing and it all goes away.
00:43:25.000It's for sure, whatever you want to call it.
00:43:28.000Like something's going on where people get to feel morally superior, whether they're execs at Instagram or interns or whoever knocks down that account.
00:44:27.000Is it true that this leaked, according to the document, that this leaked COVID-19?
00:44:32.000It leaked actually not in November, December, whatever it was.
00:44:36.000But in August, is it true that it was created in these patents?
00:44:41.000Is it true that they knew that hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and the other things you're not allowed to say anywhere could work as curatives?
00:44:48.000Because that's in – I don't know all the facts.
00:44:54.000Not only that, this concerted effort by a group of these people, Francis Collins and Fauci and all these people, to try to demonize these distinguished intellectuals.
00:46:53.000I've heard stories about his parentage that probably shouldn't be repeated on air because we don't know what they are.
00:46:57.000Somewhere in the middle of the earth is a secret laboratory where I was born.
00:47:03.000Yeah, but he's been doing this since the 70s.
00:47:06.000It wasn't called the World Economic Forum in 71, but that's when he wrote his first thing to try to come up with this stakeholder capitalism scam that he's worked out and tried to foist on the world.
00:47:17.000And so The Great Reset, obviously people are like, wait, what is this bullshit?
00:47:20.000It's like it's not going well for them.
00:47:22.000So now he comes out with a book, The Great Narrative.
00:47:25.000And then you look at what CNN's doing, you look at all the left-wing media, MSNBC, you're like...
00:47:31.000And that's been the hot word of a year, right?
00:48:47.000The patented fill will lock into place when laying on your back, bunch MyPillow registered, Under the curve of your neck to get the right amount of support for you as an individual.
00:49:59.000I got a really stiff, thick pillow, and I was sleeping on it for like a couple of weeks, but I was sleeping with my head kind of bent because it's so thick.
00:51:37.000And he went, like, balls to the wall into it.
00:51:41.000And they, like, took his microphone from him and everything.
00:51:43.000So there's a list of stuff they're not supposed to talk about.
00:51:45.000Yeah, but that actually kind of makes sense because if you're running around saying the election was a fraud, that Donald Trump is the true president, they can get in trouble for that.
00:51:56.000That's a real problem because you're promoting propaganda.
00:52:00.000If you have that person on your network and you're putting it out on the airwaves, There's a faction of our country that really does believe that the true president is Donald Trump and that JFK Jr. is alive and he's gonna meet Donald Trump in the middle of fucking Dealey Plaza.
00:53:10.000So anyway, I think that we – I actually believe that we should be having – and this is what the internet is causing is a lot of open dialogue about things, some of which is going to be wacky.
00:53:19.000I actually no longer worry about misinformation.
00:53:21.000I actually don't worry about it anymore.
00:53:23.000I worry about propaganda, but I don't worry about misinformation.
00:53:25.000And the reason I don't worry about misinformation is because if the ideas are out there and people are discussing them – I think?
00:54:35.000And that there was a line of people waiting to get into an emergency room in Oklahoma for gunshot wounds because there were so many people there that were overdosing on ivermectin.
00:55:02.000No, but that's what I'm saying, though.
00:55:04.000It's like so they've got the official narratives that they can put out.
00:55:07.000And then I think that I'm not worried about misinformation.
00:55:10.000In fact, I think that more information is generally better.
00:55:13.000But then we have this ability for these ideas to compete and for ones not necessarily that are better, but often ones that are better, but also ones that are, you know, the danger is the ones that are more sticky or salient or interesting or that they get people's emotions going or whatever.
00:55:29.000There are processes, though, there are selection processes to let ideas rise up to the top.
00:55:38.000So that's what I'm saying is I don't think that we should be censoring these things.
00:55:40.000Like if Mike Lindell, for example, is doing this gigantic...
00:55:44.000Maybe it's all complete horseshit, but he's got the statistics and he's done all this thing and the voting machines and the Dominion and he's got all this shit.
00:55:56.000This maybe is a newsworthy thing, if for no other reason, so that it gets more eyeballs on it so people can say, this is where it's bullshit, this is where that falls apart.
00:56:05.000It's where this stuff gets caught up in these little corners where it can fester that I worry more about bad info.
00:56:13.000I'm not saying that Fox has to do whatever with its programming.
00:56:16.000But I'm saying that it's better that we're having kind of a free information economy, if you will, than one that's – we've got the official gatekeepers of that, whether they're stupid – I almost said the F word – professors.
00:56:31.000I'm really mad at professors, by the way.
00:56:36.000For these like very nice people and, you know, some of them were quite religious and they were like, just don't say the F word during your talk.
00:56:42.000And I was like, okay, but what if it's like fucking commies?
00:56:45.000And they're like, well, you can say fucking communist, but no other way.
00:57:22.000I read Michel Foucault, for example, and he talks about how power works.
00:57:26.000And he's got a lot of crazy shit in there because he's ultimately at the bottom of Marxist and so capitalism has to be the problem of everything.
00:57:32.000But he's got a lot of stuff that we should be listening to right now.
00:57:35.000What he's saying is if you have the official power – he's saying it's always this but I don't think that's true.
00:57:40.000But if you have the official power of like the state and the media or whatever and they get to decide what's true, they impose like – A narrative of truth.
00:57:49.000Like, there's these aristocrats, professors, media personalities, etc.
00:57:52.000They get to decide what's true for everybody, and that's what we all have to nod our heads and go along with.
00:58:44.000And so they used that, and then they used that to silence him, and then they moved forward from there and just started silencing all kinds of different people.
00:58:52.000And so I look at that, and I think, no, I want the opposite of that.
00:58:56.000So I'd rather have, you know, occasionally you end up with Mike Lindell on Fox News talking, like if Hannity wants, or whoever it was, I don't know, wants to have him on the show, like, let it freewheel.
00:59:08.000And then, like, let's say it's 100% bullshit.
00:59:10.000Let all these geniuses on the internet, because they're everywhere, and they don't have anything else to do, start crunching the numbers and be like, here's where he made his mistake.
00:59:17.000The problem is that it dismisses the credibility of Fox News.
00:59:20.000It diminishes the credibility of Fox News.
00:59:42.000No, but it's like I feel like we don't want to have a very relatively small number of characters that head these things up getting to determine what is going to be credible, true.
00:59:57.000When you're a person who's looking at this from the outside, you say this guy is on TV in front of millions of people and he's saying things that are absolutely not true that are in fact dangerous to democracy because he's saying that our elections are – they're invalid.
01:00:16.000And that allows all these other people that are doing, whether it's the people that are censoring folks on YouTube, the people that are censoring folks on Twitter, they look at this and go, see, this is why we have to do this.
01:00:43.000But we don't want like Rachel Maddow deciding that you can't take Horst to Wormer or that Joe Rogan's gray on CNN and – No, I'm not saying we do.
01:00:50.000But I'm saying that the reason why they feel like they have to do this – No, you're right.
01:00:54.000It's because of the fact that it's so easy to dismiss them right now.
01:00:58.000Also, if you look at it from a perspective like strategy, there's one versus many.
01:02:06.000So he thinks that they used the Dominion machines that had shady programming, etc.
01:02:11.000And I don't know the details of his hypothesis, but that they were changing the numbers in a particular way to move votes from one guy from Trump to Biden, etc.
01:02:20.000And so he spent millions of dollars on some kind of a...
01:02:41.000Who are looking at the 2020 election and they're kind of squinting one eye and they're like, okay, maybe something – I mean like maybe as many as 50 or 80 million Americans are like, I think something shady went on there.
01:02:52.000And so he's got this hypothesis, right?
01:02:54.000So the distrust in the democratic process in the country is already shaken.
01:02:58.000So my view is when somebody's bringing up a point like this, the only way – like if something happens where people are suspicious enough or there's a guy that's going to devote millions of dollars to something like that, you've really – of course, you could just have a crazy guy with a lot of money.
01:03:14.000The way that you recover what's dangerous to democracy is not tying off those loose ends, right?
01:03:21.000So if you leave that open, like, the trust is already shattered.
01:03:25.000And so what you want is this—so he comes up with this hypothesis.
01:03:30.000OK. And he spent all his money and he presents his evidence and then people, you know, as ideally transparently as possible, analyze the evidence that he presents and says, this is, oh, my God, this is an emergency or there might be something here or, you know, this is total bullshit.
01:03:45.000You're a crazy person and we're never going to hear from you again in any significant way.
01:03:53.000So what's dangerous for me to democracy is the idea that there are going to be people, whether it's Sean Hannity on Fox, whether it's Rachel Maddow on MSNBC, whether it's Don Lemon on CNN, whether it's Anthony Fauci, whatever the hell he is, whether it's Joe Biden,
01:04:09.000you know, Back in 1989 because he doesn't know where he is.
01:04:13.000Whatever it happens to be, I don't think it's good for anything if those people get to delimit what we're going to see as officially true and that's what we have to go with because that's the mess that we're in with why you got attacked for taking horse medicine even though you took the human version obviously and you took a Nobel Prize winning medicine with decades of – You know,
01:04:40.000human use and science and success behind it.
01:04:43.000And that was a decision made between yourself to take it and your doctor as the consultant who recommended and was able to get you the prescription to get it.
01:04:54.000Anthony Fauci didn't need to intervene in that decision.
01:04:58.000You could have taken these pills, which have a long time of human use, and it could have done nothing.
01:05:03.000It could have just given you diarrhea or, you know, it could have made you sick or whatever, and then your doctor could have reacted accordingly to try to create a treatment protocol for you tailored to what's actually going on in your individual body as you dealt with the COOF. You don't need a bureaucrat, I think, deciding,
01:05:18.000no, no, no, these are the official things that we're going to say work and don't work because that's where you get yourself in these really dangerous positions.
01:05:55.000And so he made some joke about how, you know, he said something and he was like, I didn't even have to smoke crack to say that or whatever, you know, some kind of a joke like that.
01:07:27.000And I would rather it be out there and have that transparency to the maximum degree with people who are weighing in on this and saying, no, actually, he's totally nuts.
01:07:37.000I think there should be platforms in terms of whether it's like a YouTube or a Twitter and Facebook and all these fall into this thing that are accessible to all Americans.
01:07:50.000Because I think they're a basic human right.
01:07:52.000Because the right to express yourself, when we live in this very strange time of misinformation, disinformation, the counter to that should be more communication.
01:08:20.000According to the headlines, when I Google the evidence he has for voter fraud, from last week, he has evidence that he'll put up to 300 million Americans in jail.
01:09:09.000I would love to see that shot down through robust public debate.
01:09:13.000I would too, but if you're Hannity and you got a seven-minute segment with this fucking loon, you don't want this guy spouting this kind of crazy shit on your show.
01:09:21.000Why do you call him in the first place?
01:09:48.000It depends on its general public salience.
01:09:51.000Like, is this a huge discussion point that Fox has been dancing around a little bit here and there, but they won't?
01:09:56.000So, in that case, it's like, let's bring this guy in, hear what his evidence is, and then start bringing up counterpoints if you want to bring up counterpoints.
01:10:07.000I think that where we're trapped the most is that people like whoever it is that Instagram gets to strike down your buddy and my onion ring joke.
01:10:17.000And whoever it is, like you were saying, the social media platform should be free for everybody.
01:10:24.000People that we don't even necessarily know who they are in a lot of cases getting to make the decisions of what is and is not going to be considered true, especially when they're putting flags on stuff like Lynyrd Skynyrd and Hootie.
01:10:34.000They're doing something that is without a doubt suppressing certain views and perspectives.
01:10:41.000And imagine a world where Milo Yiannopoulos is never banned from Twitter.
01:10:46.000Gavin McGinnis never banned from Twitter.
01:10:58.000Okay, guess who's not banned from Twitter?
01:11:00.000Cardinal Ratzinger, a man who is wanted for crimes against humanity, who moved priests who molested children.
01:11:08.000The former Pope, the Ratzinger guy, moved priests that molested children to new places where they can molest children, where they molested thousands.
01:11:17.000There was at one point in time one priest that he moved that molested 100 deaf kids.
01:12:17.000It says that repressive tolerance means – or actually he calls it liberating tolerance.
01:12:23.000Liberating tolerance means – Tom Hanks, Jr.: Tolerating movements from the left and being intolerant against movements from the right.
01:12:31.000And so the whole tilted playing field is visible there.
01:12:35.000And his justification, he says, is that we could have stopped World War II. We could have stopped Auschwitz if we would have withdrawn democratic tolerance, that's his words, from Hitler when he was making his speeches.
01:12:45.000And he says, so this only – this is censorship.
01:12:49.000He's like, this obviously can only make sense.
01:12:52.000Under a circumstance, it's like emergency powers, right?
01:12:55.000He says under a circumstance where it's clear and present danger.
01:12:57.000And then he literally goes on, totally mental, to say, I maintain that our society is in that situation all the time.
01:13:04.000Thus, we always have to censor the right, pre-censor the right.
01:13:08.000He says we have to stop the idea from ever entering their head.
01:13:11.000So this is where this kind of suppression of, say, Mike Lindell's views, maybe totally batshit, or Alex Jones's views, We have to stop the thought from ever entering the head.
01:13:54.000And if there's – even to the point of not allowing the thought to enter the head of people on the right, we have to censor – and he says pre-censor – and repress, repressive tolerance.
01:14:09.000And that's the game that we all have to live in right now.
01:14:14.000Yeah, sure, Ratzinger is not exactly this liberal dude, right?
01:14:18.000But there are occasionally these cases where – Something doesn't quite fit that mold, but for the most part, that's what we're seeing.
01:14:25.000Everybody else you named is a right-wing dude.
01:14:28.000And the suppression is absolutely not...
01:14:31.000You and I know right now that if we were going to go on Twitter, we pull out our phones right now, we're going to get on Twitter, and it's like, all right, let's do a contest to see who can get banned from Twitter first.
01:14:41.000Like, you know exactly what types of opinions are going to get you banned, and they're not left-wing opinions.
01:14:48.000You could come out and say, like, those videos, you could say the most wacky stuff, like, I'm going to groom children, or whatever, and you're probably going to be okay.
01:15:38.000The state, like the teachers, the curriculum can't do – they can't just say anything.
01:15:45.000Free speech is not a defense available to them if they're saying something that's like unprofessional out of their job description or whatever or bringing pornography into the – even if it's fairly soft pornography into the classroom.
01:16:25.000It's actually, it shows, you know, appears to be some kind of lesbian-type relationship, or maybe it's non-binary, and there's a strap-on dildo on a minor and another one performing oral sex on the strap-on dildo.
01:16:44.000And this is a book that's in the library?
01:16:46.000Yeah, there's another one I saw yesterday, and I apologize because I don't know what the title of it is because I only just saw it, where it actually shows people going down on each other like cunnilingus.
01:16:56.000You want to make a graphic novel of that and publish it for adults.
01:20:12.000And they actually openly say, I mentioned that paper by Hannah Dyer earlier, they openly say that one of the targets that they have is childhood innocence.
01:20:20.000They say childhood innocence is a narrative that's created by People who have privilege and advantage, like you're a rich white guy or whatever, so your kids can grow up innocent.
01:20:31.000But if you're a queer kid or if you're a black kid in the city or whatever, you can't grow up innocent.
01:21:02.000Those minor attracted persons, of course, they might have their own, if we will, minor attracted pedophiles would have their own agenda, right?
01:21:09.000And if there is no childhood innocence, then the childhood doesn't have innocence and we can even do away with maybe aging consent laws or we can da-da-da.
01:21:18.000So there's that whole sick side of it.
01:21:20.000But from the Marxist perspective, having studied the history of Marxism through the 20th century, I'm telling you, this guy, George Lukács, in Hungary laid this plan out because if you get these kids, like, you break down their innocence sexually especially, what you can do is then they're going to go home and they're going to tell their parents that they're some,
01:21:38.000like, lithromantic, you know, demisexual, you know, tree self gender, some, you know, pronouns tree, tree self or something.
01:21:46.000And the parents are going to be like, what?
01:21:49.000And they're going to be like, mom, you just don't understand.
01:21:51.000So you separate the younger generation from the older generation.
01:21:55.000So you get them to break away and think that they're old fogies, that they're repressive, you don't want me to be my true self, etc.
01:22:01.000The goal is actually to destabilize the kid's identity so that they're groomable.
01:22:05.000That's identity without an essence in queer theory.
01:24:21.000And if you're like the son of one of those people or connected to one of those people, they're going to tell you at school you're like the worst kind of person.
01:24:49.000You can take up these – you can be a good communist.
01:24:52.000And now we'll call you – we'll give you like a red jacket or whatever, a red feather, I don't know, something.
01:24:56.000And you're like one of the cool kids, whereas we're going to constantly tell you how bad you are over here.
01:25:01.000Now, take out those classes like – Yeah.
01:25:22.000You start showing them – you start telling them that they are part of the racist superstructure of society basically, that they're part of the systemic racism problem.
01:25:32.000And so their whole identity generationally – your parents are white.
01:28:05.000It means you have to be politically active.
01:28:07.000Nicole Hannah-Jones from the New York Times, the 1619 Project said the same thing.
01:28:11.000There's a difference between being racially black and politically black.
01:28:14.000So then in your former home state of California – or not home state, I guess, but resident state of California, Larry Elder runs for governor, was the LA Times run.
01:29:39.000This is what's so disturbing about it.
01:29:42.000It seems like it's uprooting civil discourse in this country.
01:29:47.000And between that and whatever is going on politically between the left and the right in terms of like The people that want to make sure that Trump never gets into office again and make sure that everyone who's right-wing is demonized and discussed as the worst aspects of society.
01:30:09.000If you're an intellectual, if you're a person who went to college, if you're a person who is a white-collar person, you're not allowed to be anything other than left-wing.
01:31:09.000It's like we're not going to have like Stalin like sending people to Siberia with this.
01:31:14.000What you're going to have is this new thing where the corporate – Those ESG scores are going to come down ultimately to control people at the level of social credit for themselves.
01:31:26.000Like if you want to be able to bank, if you want to be able to go to the grocery store maybe, if you want to go like in Australia more than five kilometers from your house, you have to have a justified reason.
01:31:33.000That was a whole thing in their COVID. Like whatever the state of affairs there is, that's true.
01:31:38.000Like during their hard lockdown, you couldn't be a certain distance away from your house.
01:31:43.000Well, they can track you on your phone We've got a GPS in it if they needed to and especially if we go all the way into like these digital ID apps or whatever.
01:31:51.000And so the goal is to install something that they have total social control run by the goons who think that this is a good idea so that we can become this one – it's not communism.
01:32:02.000It's a mixture of communism and fascism into one thing.
01:32:05.000What was the one thing that they were recently talking about, about labeling people that are dissenting against government opinions, people that are rabble-rousers?
01:33:27.000No, you're going to have to, and I don't mean this by violence, because it's from the FBI's paper I downloaded.
01:33:33.000Okay, the FBI and the DHS are both charged with preventing terrorist attacks in the United States, including those conducted by domestic violent extremists.
01:33:45.000The goal drives the FBI's mission to proactively lead Law enforcement and domestic intelligence efforts to defeat terrorist attacks against U.S. citizens and U.S. interests through an integrated strategy to detect, penetrate.
01:34:03.000The FBI and DHS define a domestic violent extremist as an individual based and operating primarily within the United States or its territories without direction or inspiration from a foreign terrorist group or other foreign power Who seeks to further political or social goals wholly or in part through unlawful acts of force or violence.
01:34:30.000The mere advocacy of political or social positions, political activism, use of strong rhetoric.
01:35:06.000I mean, I saw this graphic thing that had very vague words on it, but...
01:35:12.000This last part is very clear that they're saying, you know, you may have constitutionally protected free speech and so mere advocacy of these things may not be sufficient to qualify you as an extremist.
01:35:24.000The scary part is the word may, of course, because that's a squishy word.
01:36:14.000The DT for the FBI's purpose is referenced in the U.S. Code, blah, blah, blah, blah, as defined as activities involving acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any other state,
01:36:30.000or any state, appearing to be intended to intimidate or coerce civilian population.
01:36:38.000Influence the policy of government by intimidation, coercion, or affect conduct of government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping, and occurring primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
01:37:12.000Who are the they that you're referring to?
01:37:14.000So if the FBI is involved, or the feds, if they are involved, and that's why that woman was not able to answer those questions to Ted Cruz and said, I can't answer that, I can't answer that.
01:37:23.000And things that you should be able to answer, like were you involved in citing violence?
01:37:28.000Were you involved in violent activities?
01:37:30.000So what do you think they were trying to do and why were they trying to do that?
01:37:34.000Do you think it's because it's no secret that Donald Trump had a terrible relationship with the intelligence community?
01:37:44.000He disparaged them, dismissed them, called them incompetent, fired Comey, the whole deal, right?
01:37:49.000And they were out to get him, supposedly, right?
01:37:52.000Do you think that what they were trying to do by inciting that Epps guy saying, we need to go in there.
01:37:58.000I might get arrested for saying this, but we need to go into the Capitol.
01:38:02.000And everybody's like, who's this fucking Fed?
01:38:04.000After you guys noticed that, I saw this news came out that he is going to be doing an interview with the FBI to transcribe what he was I don't know what he was doing there that day, I guess.
01:38:21.000Figure at the center of pro-Trump January 6th theories to speak with select committee on Friday.
01:38:27.000Ray Epps met informally with the panel in November and told them he had no relationship with the FBI. No, he's with the NSA. We don't know who the fuck he's with.
01:39:49.000Then – and I don't know if you saw this.
01:39:51.000The New York Times on January 1st – so first of all, there's all this kind of like Patriot Act 2.0 looking shit coming out of this to label people who are – we'll say at least further to the right as potential domestic terror threats or whatever to our democracy,
01:41:01.000Repression of movements from the right, intolerance of movements from the left.
01:41:06.000It's exactly what they were—if the FBI constructed— The bulk of the bad stuff that went down on J6. They were trying to construct their excuse to have a political biasing of the playing field that represses rightward and opens the gate leftward even further.
01:41:27.000And so – and to add like Department of Justice, FBI, et cetera, teeth to this otherwise kind of cultural movement.
01:41:35.000So it's the kind of – again, having studied the Chinese Cultural Revolution, it's the kind of thing that I start to get really nervous about.
01:41:42.000The idea that if you read Mao, he's always talking about counter-revolutionaries.
01:41:46.000He's always talking about conservatives and rightists.
01:41:50.000And that those people have to be suppressed.
01:41:53.000They're a constant threat to the people's movement or to the revolution or whatever it is, however we phrase it, is often the people's movement is how he phrases it.
01:42:01.000And you see this again, same kind of Maoist and Marxist maneuver to It's consolidate and lock up power in the – I don't even want to say the Democrats to be honest with you.
01:42:19.000It's in the – what often got referred to either as the deep state or the swamp or whatever, this kind of political class that wants to hold itself up above everybody else and make no mistake, there are lots of Republicans involved as well.
01:42:32.000The Democrats are virtually completely beholden to this ideology at this point.
01:42:36.000But there's a lot of Republicans who are in on the show as well that say the right things sometimes that are mostly ineffectual.
01:42:46.000And so there's this thing that some people call it – I call it on Twitter the regime with a capital R that wants to create conditions under which it can persecute or at least intimidate its political enemies including with this Department of Justice letter.
01:43:00.000It's not connected to January 6th for parents.
01:43:03.000Showing up to school boards, pissed off that there's books in the school library, which we already saw what's in those books in the school library.
01:43:10.000They want to create the ability to repress those people so they can create the conditions of repressive tolerance, which is a – it's basically like taking the whole political – I think I'm going to go.
01:43:55.000I wasn't doing some Alex Jones false flag thing.
01:43:58.000I was like tweeting that and I'm watching how people are reacting.
01:44:01.000And then if you follow the thread where I have that, I even say, you know, this is like the biggest gift in the world to the potential regime that wants to clamp down on its enemies, that wants to censor people who might be encouraging insurrection in the future, who might be giving people information that makes them,
01:44:18.000you know, doubt the authority of the CDC or the government or, you know, whatever it happens to be, or the school board or the Department of Education or whoever.
01:45:28.000I mean, it's really badly written, so I'm assuming it's for his little Davos club members because it's really— Is it published with a legitimate publisher or is it self-published?
01:45:47.000It's just like a bunch of corporate jargon words.
01:45:49.000Even I'm trained to see through jargon, and it's just a bunch of corporate gobbledygook.
01:45:54.000So when it comes to false flags and it comes to some orchestrated agent provocateur tactics like when Governor Whitmer, when they were planning to kidnap her, how many different FBI agents were involved in that?
01:46:18.000Where it's like feds pointing at each other.
01:46:20.000You remember they had the thing over the summer, they had something to do.
01:46:23.000There's supposed to be this conservative thing about the J6, like free the prisoners or something, and nobody showed up.
01:46:29.000And then there's that famous picture of the feds all standing there in their sunglasses and whatever.
01:46:34.000And it's like you read the story of what happened there, and the only person who got arrested at that event, whatever it was, was a fed by another fed.
01:46:52.000Well, it's allowed because there's no accountability.
01:46:55.000And anybody who calls for accountability can be labeled under – like with a serious call for it, can be labeled under somebody who's a threat to democracy.
01:47:01.000They can be labeled under somebody who's a potential insurrectionist or instigating an insurrection or inciting.
01:47:09.000But the federal officers that are involved in this – What do you think they think they're doing?
01:47:13.000I think the majority of them think they're just doing their job.
01:47:16.000Right, but do they know what the endgame is?
01:48:21.000He was a guy in my town where I grew up and I was a little kid.
01:48:24.000Like, there was literally a crazy guy that did that there.
01:48:26.000It's more common than it should be, but it does happen.
01:48:29.000And this has happened before in terms of, like, people that were supposedly informants, people that were working with the FBI that wound up doing something.
01:49:01.000She's like- And then it's like camera turn on and her face turns on and then she says this thing and it's like, oh yeah, there was way less carnage and damage than we were expecting.
01:49:58.000That was going on during the 1918 pandemic, and they were talking about the ineffectiveness of mass.
01:50:11.000It's really kind of wild when you watch it, because it's one of those things where you see it and you're like, holy shit, this is kind of...
01:50:18.000I mean, it's essentially the same thing that we're dealing with now, but this was, you know, a hundred fucking years ago.
01:50:30.000I got, by the way, while you look, I got dinged off of Facebook or something at one point.
01:50:36.000All I did was I took a video of Fauci saying don't wear a mask from the very beginning of the pandemic.
01:50:41.000And I put it on there and the only words were Fauci and then whatever month it was, like March 2020 or April 2020. That was the only thing I said with it, and they locked me out and put a strike on my account for sharing misinformation.
01:50:55.000It was literally just a video of Fauci saying it.
01:50:58.000I was just saying this is what the man said at the time.
01:51:24.000You know, I'm in the middle of this thing that's talking about his response to the AIDS epidemic and about the way he handled that, which is very similar in the fact that they suppressed...
01:51:37.000Alternative treatments and early treatment options in favor of AZT. And they stopped all other studies in favor of AZT. And it turns out that AZT was actually killing people even quicker.
01:51:51.000And that's the parallel to remdesivir or whatever it's called.
01:53:19.000It's like, if it just stops a little bit of transmission, if it stops a little bit of the viral load, if people get less sick than they would have gotten, if people were just openly breathing and coughing all over each other, is that better?
01:53:42.000That's the only variable that counts now.
01:53:44.000We don't have to ask questions of like, well, what's it doing to kids' ability to speak and understand language?
01:53:51.000What is it doing to their, like, rates of pneumonia from breathing back in or facial, like, acne or, you know, eye infections from breathing their own mouth bacteria back onto their face and being trapped in that?
01:54:05.000What's it doing, like, what is it, how many, some absurd number of billions of masks floating in the ocean?
01:54:40.000And it's funny because, you know, they're getting, if we go back to the ESG thing, they're getting points on their G for good governance by forcing people to wear the masks.
01:54:47.000But they should be losing points in the environmental category, right?
01:54:51.000But they're not because it's all like stakeholder bullshit.
01:54:55.000They want to prioritize COVID is more important, just like all of a sudden COVID didn't matter when Black Lives Matter became more important as the S score goes up.
01:55:02.000And you can see that this is, that's where you've got to worry about this small number of people who are largely unaccountable I think we're good to go.
01:55:24.000There's a million things going on with kids and childhood development and everything.
01:55:28.000Is it worth everybody wearing masks at the cost, the environmental outlay, the side effects of wearing masks?
01:55:37.000Everybody's like, oh, I can't breathe in hypoxia.
01:55:39.000There is a bit of suck it up buttercup to that.
01:55:41.000But there's not suck it up buttercup to you're breathing back in your gross mouth stuff and getting pneumonia if you're, say, six years old.
01:57:45.000You should get it to me any second now.
01:57:47.000Yeah, I legit think that, like, we've spent too much time caring about what makes lots of other people feel better, and we've put ourselves in a bad position as a result.
02:00:48.000It's like I keep wanting to, like, I want to see somebody take it like a bo staff and just, like, go full Jackie Chan on the guy or whatever.
02:00:54.000It's just, well, it's one of the things where people are looking for something to comfort them, and the mask, in some ways, comforts people.
02:01:01.000I put it on in the beginning of the pandemic, gladly, because whether it works or not, I was like, at least people know you're not an asshole.
02:02:53.000When it's like women's self-defense and you teach her just enough to get confident enough to get her ass beat, like that's not good, right?
02:03:01.000And so it's literally part of the Dunning-Kruger effect where you get overconfident in how good you are and then you make bad decisions or whatever.
02:03:09.000That's – I used to teach martial arts and I went to one of those women's self-defense courses where they would – They put someone in a giant foam outfit.
02:04:10.000Turns out those bell curves of upper body strength don't overlap very much.
02:04:15.000There's a hilarious article that was in, might have been like Pink News or one of those things, about Michael Phelps.
02:04:25.000And Michael Phelps unironically saying that it's not fair if this Penn State transgender woman competes against that Michael Phelps ironically says it's not an even playing field.
02:09:06.000Could you imagine standing there dressed with the button-down white shirt and a Trump hat and holding a tiki torch, just a putz, knowing you're a putz?
02:09:13.000Lincoln Project says it's behind the group with Tiki Torches by Young and Campaign Buster.
02:09:18.000Oh yeah, Lincoln Project threw themselves under the bus, probably to protect the campaign, in my opinion.
02:11:17.000Yeah, journalists, they're even doing it.
02:11:19.000Like CNN and the CDC both are all of a sudden like, you know, well, there were a lot of deaths with COVID that weren't deaths of COVID. Isn't that wild when you hear that?
02:12:04.000And so all of a sudden, you know, basically their narrative has—what we're watching right now is a very exciting time, weird time, but an exciting time to be alive.
02:12:10.000We're watching the narrative collapse.
02:14:05.000And then they find out, turns out the elephants are super, super, super sensitive to LSD. And so they killed this elephant like screwing around with it.
02:14:13.000So Jolly West was like the MK Ultra guy doing all the mind control.
02:14:16.000Well, Charles Pierce was like this guy and he was kind of in charge of...
02:14:20.000I don't know what his deal with elephants was.
02:14:21.000But he was in charge of this thing that was a like coalition of black psychiatrists.
02:14:26.000And he was a Harvard psychiatry guy, but he was tied up with West, Jolly West.
02:14:31.000And he talked about how, you know, the black man like really loves Jolly West because all this.
02:14:36.000He had all these things with Jolly West.
02:14:37.000He did the elephant thing with Jolly West.
02:14:38.000I don't know how involved in MKUltra he was, but he was very interested in the way that TV in particular brainwashes black kids to feel inferior.
02:14:50.000And so he wanted to try to combat that.
02:14:52.000And as far as I can tell, the Sesame Street stuff is not all that nefarious, but it's a little weird that Snuffleupagus is on there now that they killed an elephant and then he makes Sesame Street with a woolly mammoth or whatever as one of the characters.
02:15:04.000But this guy who was literally like...
02:15:07.000A black radical in the 60s who was also a Harvard psychiatrist and was tied up with all this like police and FBI and like CIA garbage with LSD and all the experiments he was doing and he was a longtime friend and collaborated with West, Jolly West.
02:15:57.000So this concept, though, comes from this guy who also is like a consultant for Sesame Street and wants to use like psychological techniques to like do diversity on TV to—well, it looks like good reasons.
02:16:08.000Like I'm not even going to crap on Sesame Street.
02:16:09.000I'm not going to say that— Sesame Street was a CIA plot to like tear America apart.
02:18:58.000Because the thing that people argue against is that what people are trying to do by denying critical race theory, they're denying the conversation about the wrongs of the past.
02:19:09.000And they want to pretend that nothing happened.
02:19:11.000They want to pretend that red line laws didn't happen, Jim Crow didn't happen, slavery didn't happen.
02:19:16.000Or if it did, it's not worth discussing today.
02:19:19.000Because what's going on today, we're on an even playing field.
02:19:23.000We had a black president and everything's fine.
02:19:25.000And they're saying, no, that's not the case.
02:19:27.000What critical race theory is to them is discussing the wrongs of the past.
02:20:31.000Like, no, people need religion, so they need somebody who understands God, so we need a minister, so I should have a job as a priest and you should come to church and tithe to me and pay me.
02:20:39.000Or people need – the law needs to be worked out, so we need lawyers who are going to be able to help people settle disputes and keep it within the realm of the law, and we need law in the first place.
02:21:09.000And the belief is that until that is completely overthrown in revolution and the people on the bottom seize power through a period of dictatorship, literally he called it the dictatorship of the proletariat, that the system doesn't change.
02:21:22.000So all these – in critical race theory, the ideology is white supremacy.
02:21:27.000And the country was founded in white supremacy.
02:21:30.000So it doesn't matter that Thomas Jefferson wrote, all men are created equals.
02:21:32.000He held slaves and therefore he didn't believe it.
02:21:34.000Even if you – but if, of course, you read Thomas Jefferson, you see him struggling with this.
02:21:38.000Like he doesn't know what to do about it and he laments kicking it down the generations to some later time that landed on Lincoln.
02:21:45.000But no, he created a system rooted in white supremacy that's for white benefit, etc.
02:21:50.000And, of course, that is in the 18th century.
02:21:53.000And for the Marxist, that never changes.
02:21:56.000All the thing on top, that ideology, the whiteness that you have access to, all the white supremacists ever do is figure out how to hide the fact that they're justifying their illegitimate position better.
02:22:07.000So you need a critical theory that can see – it's critical so it can see through those lies.
02:22:12.000It understands that there's a structural nature to society that's produced by the interaction of the lower and the upper.
02:22:19.000Matthew Feeney Except that the people who benefit from white supremacy have figured out ways to hide it better by,
02:22:46.000say, letting some racial minorities succeed or by desegregating schools.
02:22:50.000That was Derrick Bell, first critical race theorist, formally speaking.
02:22:53.000His big thing was that desegregating schools was actually white people trying to … protect American interests against communists at the expense of black people who are now going to have to go to integrated schools where they're going to suffer racism and so on.
02:23:05.000It's very pessimistic and cynical analysis.
02:23:07.000But nothing – not abolition of slavery through the Civil War and all that blood and everything, which was in a sense a revolution, not the civil rights movement.
02:23:16.000None of that actually changed racism except in how it manifests.
02:23:20.000The ideology from the white supremacists just took a different form.
02:23:23.000And in fact, there's a book – I can't remember the title of the book, Race, Class and Nation, Race, Nation, Class, something like this.
02:23:28.000It's a French Marxist book I was reading a couple of weeks ago.
02:23:32.000They actually say that – they say explicitly that racism has gotten worse as it's gone out of the biological and out of the institutional and into the culture where it's super diffuse and you can't find it.
02:23:51.000It's exactly the same, but it's more intense and it's invisible, except to people like them who have the special goggles that can see it.
02:23:59.000So it's not whether or not we want to have conversations about the past.
02:24:02.000It's how those conversations are going to proceed.
02:24:04.000And as we have dealt with, some certain very intolerant people are going to say that every other possible way to discuss the past and the present of this country is racist.
02:24:14.000Only critical race theory is anti-racist.
02:24:37.000And so no, it's a question of how we're going to do it.
02:24:40.000And we have this intolerant ideology that sees only one way to do it.
02:24:43.000But what was the definition I just read to you that I give as the first thing in my new book is that critical race theory is calling everything you want to control racist until you control it.
02:24:51.000So now you want to have a conversation about race?
02:24:54.000Every version except theirs is racist because they want to control the conversation about race.
02:25:01.000It's not whether or not we're going to have these conversations.
02:25:03.000It's not that there were issues and that there are probably things – there are definitely things that still hang over from those issues, redlining, et cetera.
02:25:23.000But it's how that conversation has to proceed.
02:25:25.000And if they're going to say every single way but our way is racist, all they're trying to do is use that label racist to control the conversation, put it on their terms.
02:25:34.000But their terms are this crackpot Marxist thing that it keeps getting worse until when?
02:25:41.000I feel like there's also an aspect to it where social media has illuminated these pathways for people to take, where they can become famous and prominent by addressing these concerns that people have about racism.
02:25:58.000And calling everyone racist and looking at things in the most uncharitable light because they then get attention from that and then these arguments and these discussions and they make YouTube videos or they're on television shows or whatever they're doing.
02:26:14.000And then it becomes their avenue to success by calling everything racist.
02:26:34.000Do you know how easy it is to become a race grifter in those conditions?
02:26:38.000All you have to do is say you have these feelings and nobody can question your feelings and you call like the idea that master bedrooms sounds like slave quarters versus master.
02:26:49.000That was from Sears in like 1929. How funny was it when that one dude said that so many white people are pretending that they're people of color in order to get into university?
02:27:31.000And that's where he says the only – page 19, the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination and the only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.
02:27:38.000So he's advocating for discrimination.
02:27:40.000So then he looks at the colleges and you have this problem going on.
02:27:43.000There are a lot of white kids that are pretending all of a sudden to be people of color, right?
02:27:48.000They're pretending to be some other race and they've got their sad story or whatever.
02:27:51.000And he's like wanting to say, well, this is just white people trying to cash in on...
02:27:56.000They're trying to exploit the situations of people of color to their own advantage yet again.
02:28:01.000That's like his analysis of everything.
02:28:02.000He's called everything racist until you control it.
02:28:05.000And it kind of blew up on him because what he's actually pointing out is there is a strong incentive structure to pretend that you're not white because the advantage lies somewhere else now under this ideology.
02:28:18.000And so he ends up torpedoing his own thing.
02:28:20.000Now, people screw up on Twitter all the time.
02:28:25.000Believe you me, I'm all about screwing up on Twitter.
02:28:50.000You don't go after people who are really good at Twitter and have like 1.3 million followers.
02:28:53.000And so he ends up just torpedoing himself and he actually like vanished from the limelight for a little while until they brought him back out for Martin Luther King, you know, Critical Race Theory Day.
02:29:03.000And he did his thing there where it's like we're going to interpret Martin Luther King in a particular way and white people shouldn't be invoking him, especially his, you know, most famous I Have a Dream speech.
02:29:15.000But he vanished for a while because he torpedoed himself because he admitted that under the regime that they've created, that the advantage doesn't flow automatically to white people.
02:29:24.000White privilege is no longer material in the systems they've created.
02:29:28.000Because white people pretending to be a person of color, they get in college is easier.
02:30:21.000He says it's going to be based on two principles, that all the races are equal, and inequity, so differences in outcome on average by racial group, over a certain threshold will be By definition, racist.
02:31:04.000It's going to be able to – it's going to be first of all composed of formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees, he tells us.
02:31:12.000And if we ended up pulling this thing up, I'm telling you, I'm like quoting this thing from memory of Reddit so many times, like to public audiences.
02:31:18.000And it's no – yeah, right here, look.
02:31:21.000The amendment would make unconstitutional racial equity over a certain threshold as well as racist ideas by public officials.
02:31:27.000It would establish and permanently fund the Department of Anti-Racism, comprised of formally trained experts on racism and no political appointees.
02:31:33.000Like, seriously, I'm like doing it word for word almost from memory.
02:31:36.000The DOA would be responsible for pre-clearing all local, state, and federal public policies.
02:32:34.000And now your corporate policy is going to be subjected to this as well.
02:32:37.000And to monitor public officials for expressions of racist ideas.
02:32:41.000The DOA would be empowered with disciplinary tools to wield over and against policymakers and public officials who do not voluntarily change their racist policy and ideas.
02:32:51.000… led by the anti-racist as he calls them who are formally trained experts on racism, which means critical race theorists.
02:32:58.000That's Marxism 101, that you're going to have the proletariat, no political appointees because those would be the bourgeois people, and they're going to seize the means of production, establish a dictatorship of the proletariat that's now going to be in charge of clearing all policies on all levels to make sure that it yields economic equity.
02:33:17.000But see, you got to unpack this because if you looked at it on the surface, who the hell would be against stopping racism?
02:33:25.000Because that's what it's not about, right?
02:33:27.000Like he even says in his book that it directly says that the remedy is discrimination.
02:33:33.000So it depends on how you want to define racism, which means we're playing this weird game.
02:33:37.000And the way that they want to define racism is this weird structural thing that the white people set up society for their own benefit.
02:33:53.000They need a critical theorist to tell them where they're actually being racist.
02:33:55.000And so of course people don't want there to be racism.
02:33:58.000But what they mean by racism is actually how society works because they believe it was created in white supremacy and therefore the entire – like I said before, Marxist structure of society – Marxist theory structure of society, the organizing principle of society is actually racism.
02:34:11.000So racism is the – this is quoting from another book, which is Critical Race Theory, an introduction in case we wonder if it's about critical race theory.
02:34:19.000Racism is the ordinary state of affairs in society, not an aberration from them.
02:34:49.000Well, they say rights are said to be alienating because I could say a racial slur to you and then you could say, hey, you can't say that hate speech.
02:35:11.000Everything for them, the entire structure of society has racism baked into it.
02:35:16.000If I put it in their terms, what critical race theory says is that racism was baked into the law from the beginning, stamped from the beginning, being the title of Kendi's other book.
02:35:25.000And it doesn't come out without a revolution that installs this kind of guy in power.
02:36:18.000Sean Harper from USC. He's a critical race theory guy.
02:36:21.000I looked up his CV. He's got all this, like, he's not just, like, got some of the credentials for the academic stuff, but he's got, like, he lists all of the grants that he's worked under, and it's like, you know, critical race and education, this, blah, blah, blah, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $750,000.
02:36:35.000He's got millions from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and others to push this critical race theory.
02:36:40.000And so this guy's, like, I guess he's kind of somehow in connection with Dr. Phil too.
02:38:43.000And he was referring to Derrick Bell's Race, Racism and American Law from 1970. But it turns out the founding conference of critical race theory was in Madison, Wisconsin, in a convent off the campus of University of Wisconsin at Madison.
02:38:58.000In 1989. And that's where Kimberly Crenshaw, who's one of the chief critical racers, named it critical race theory because it's critical theory using race and racial justice that employs critical theory.
02:39:13.000Like why is he defining it as a previous book?
02:39:18.000You could say that it actually – the first real book of critical race theory was in the 1970s.
02:39:23.000But he brings up 89. This guy has to be aware of the relevance of 1989. But he like – it's one thing to say, you know, actually it goes back a little further than that.
02:39:34.000So anyway, the way the show – the recording really ended was I had went off and I was like, you know it was 1989. You know about the conference.
02:39:41.000And I just did kind of the whole thing.
02:39:42.000And I even added that Richard Delgado, who wrote the Critical Race here introduction, was at that meeting.
02:39:47.000And he had this interview in like 97 or something and he describes it.
02:39:51.000And he says, you know, we're in a convent.
02:39:54.000He says there's an austere room with crucifixes here and there on the wall.
02:39:59.000And then he puts in – he dashes off.
02:40:01.000He adds a kind of parenthetical comment.
02:40:03.000He says there's an odd setting for a bunch of Marxists.
02:40:05.000And like that's the founding conference.
02:40:08.000That's one of the guys at the founding conference of critical race theory describing the founding conference of critical race theory.
02:40:53.000They don't necessarily like that you had a poignant...
02:40:56.000Well, they came back into my dressing room kind of one by one and told me, you know, secretly I listen to your podcast and agree with most of what you say.
02:41:03.000So I think there's a little bit of both.
02:41:09.000But why do they have these kind of conversations where they have a bunch of people who are professionals at discussing these topics gang up on someone who's a parent?
02:41:54.000I don't know, but the framing was clear.
02:41:56.000Just to finish the story, the last word, though, I bust this guy from 1989, and Derek, actually being a funny dude, turns to Dr. Phil and he points and he's like, I told you it was 1989. You know, it's a ha-ha, everybody laughs.
02:42:05.000But they edited it to where the last word apparently came from one of them, saying, but that's not even taught in schools, which is false.
02:43:10.000If they would have brought me and him out, like him first, fine, whatever, and then me afterwards to kind of discuss and respond and then start bringing parents out, it would have been a very different structure to the show, a very different mood for me.
02:43:20.000But I can see why they did it the way they did it because it incites conflict.
02:43:42.000Most people aren't there to the very end.
02:43:44.000Like, if you watch any show, whether it's The Tonight Show or fucking Jimmy Kimmel, the vast majority of people are watching in the beginning, and they tail off.
02:44:26.000Yeah, I've seen lots of people try to get these things set up.
02:44:30.000I had some friends who concocted this scheme where people would give money and then like it'd build up a pot and get donated either to the person participating or to charity, whatever.
02:44:40.000If they participated to kind of like leverage debates.
02:45:09.000And they have a justification in-house inside their theory that says that, you know, if they sat down to talk to you, you're already on, like, the bad list, right?
02:45:44.000And so I figured he was going to get pushed around by his radical party and other forces, like possibly weird stuff with China, weird stuff with Ukraine or Russia or whoever might be involved, but China, certainly.
02:45:56.000And what makes you think that Biden is corrupt?
02:46:11.000Actually, when I got picked up from the airport on my way to the hotel when you flew me in here, the guy that drove me, the driver, was like, yeah, I drove Joe Biden around here a few years ago.
02:46:40.000I figured the media, which was holding Trump to account for everything he did and millions of things he didn't even do or say, was not going to treat Biden similarly.
02:46:50.000I figured they were going to run cover for him.
02:46:51.000And I fundamentally believe that it's crucial to a democracy that the – or a republic really – that the press is holding power to account.
02:47:02.000The press shouldn't be the megaphone of the administration.
02:47:06.000The press should be asking them tough questions.
02:47:09.000And I just perceived that's not going to happen.
02:47:11.000And then they were writing articles which have not come true yet, but it told me what direction they were thinking that said things like we should – if we don't get our way with the Supreme Court, we should start ignoring the Supreme Court.
02:47:22.000Maybe we shouldn't actually have a Supreme Court.
02:47:25.000Maybe we should pack the Supreme Court.
02:47:26.000Maybe we don't need a constitution anymore.
02:47:28.000These were in New Republic-level leftist magazines.
02:47:33.000This isn't like Joe Biden came out and said that.
02:47:35.000But I watched Kamala support bailing out the Black Lives Matter rioters.
02:48:09.000Intelligent people, they developed this cognitive dissonance where they were allowed to pretend openly and publicly that Biden was a good candidate.
02:48:19.000And now that you're seeing who he is and how compromised he is, not just compromised mentally, but compromised in terms of like his ties to businesses and the way they're running things.
02:52:03.000The one on the right, if that is real, boy, not only does he look like he lost weight, like his skin's developed elasticity that it didn't possess.
02:54:06.000You saw that picture that was going around the other day, right, with the fat woman and it's supposed to be like the new face of fitness or something?
02:54:38.000It's another one of those fat things where someone was saying that in order to dismantle fat phobia, we have to destroy Western civilization.
02:58:28.000Okay, if that's clear parody, and it seems like it is to me, when I read that, I was like, okay, this is, what's crazy is that the world is so nuts, it's hard to spot parody.
02:58:50.000The trypophobia, or whatever they called it.
02:58:53.000Like, something that looks like a honeycomb, and you're like, uh, you know, something.
02:58:56.000The guy, Jeff Cole is his name, the neuroscientist who identified that phobia, wrote a paper saying that there's nowhere that you could stand to say that fat bodybuilding is actually ridiculous.
03:00:23.000That's almost like, I'm wondering if this is farmed out to AI. I mean, it might be.
03:00:30.000They've been fact-checked a number of times, though, on things that are very obviously fake.
03:00:35.000You know, one of the things that I've read that gave me hope, and I don't know why I should have any hope, is that they said that CNN was going to switch their format to an objective news format, and they were going to get rid of all their opinion-based editorial staff,
03:00:50.000like Don LeLon, like those knuckleheads, that they were going to get rid of them.
03:00:55.000You know, that would be, if it's genuine, a positive step.
03:00:59.000Well, they have to know that they've destroyed their business.
03:01:03.000And they have to think that, you know, like, the thing about the 90% drop in their ratings last year, they want to say that it's because of scandals.
03:01:11.000That's like what it, you know, Cuomo, and they don't help.
03:01:15.000The two guys, again, two more people that got busted being pedophiles, right?
03:01:19.000That were on their staff, which is fucking wild.
03:02:15.000It's like I remember when I was a kid, like my mom being like, you know, what you're saying might be right, but your attitude sucks or whatever, you know, if I smarten off.
03:02:22.000It's also an extreme lack of understanding of human nature.
03:02:28.000The way they discuss things, like one of the things they were talking about, shaming people.
03:02:34.000Like whether or not we should start shaming people for not following the public health guidelines that have changed over and over again and have been proven over and over again to be wrong.
03:03:11.000And when enough people see through it, I mean, their ratings are going to drop 90%, and then other forces are going to come into play, or protests are going to start coming up, or whatever else.
03:03:23.000And One of my favorite ones was when Brian Stelter was talking about what a shame it was that there were programs on YouTube that get more ratings than CNN in prime time.
03:03:37.000And I remember thinking, do you think you guys, that people owe you ratings?
03:04:40.000It's 90% down from where it was from this week last year, which was the week that the riots happened, which would have been everyone fucking watching the news.
03:05:01.000The Trump thing, for sure, they lost 50% because that was like an objective analysis of all of their ratings and they were talking about across the board.
03:05:32.000Like, we have to be all really mad about this thing a year later, and they polled a bunch of Democrats, and they were like, eh, it's not really on my list of concerns.
03:05:38.000My favorite is when they ask Kamala Harris questions.
03:05:41.000And then she gives, like, a kid in seventh grade essay, like, when they're trying to fill the 150 words that you have to use, or whatever the fuck it is.
03:05:52.000It is crazy to hear her talk about it when she was talking about Pearl Harbor, and she was talking, what were the other- Pearl Harbor, Civil War, and then 9-11.
03:06:57.000And they want to demonize independent media also that's bipartisan or that is least objective and is willing to talk to people on all sides.
03:07:06.000And they want to regain control, but they want to do it through the old methods, and that's not going to work in this day and age.
03:07:17.000I think we're going through – we talked about the Enlightenment.
03:07:20.000I think we're going through the second Enlightenment.
03:07:23.000I think we're – I talked earlier about like an aristocracy of ideas and the media figureheads and the professors and the experts get to decide what is and isn't true for people.
03:07:31.000I think the internet is allowing people to do their own research as it were and is burning that down.
03:07:37.000And we're going to have a real marketplace of ideas and we're going to have more freedom if we don't let them – I think they're like – they see their freedom slipping away and they're like grasping for it.
03:07:46.000And their power, I should say, is slipping away and they're grasping for it.
03:07:50.000And I think for a while, I wasn't sure, but I'm pretty confident now, like, we're going to get through this and we're going to have a more free, smarter society on the other side.
03:07:59.000It's not to say it's going to be smooth for the next little while.
03:08:02.000And it's not to say that we can go to sleep and it'll just work itself out.
03:08:04.000How much time do you think we got before that works itself out?
03:08:37.000I think the COVID narrative has fallen apart, and it just looks like heavy-handed government and authority abusing power to keep trying to voice this crap on people.
03:08:46.000They've kind of hid information, though.
03:08:48.000Like, one of the things they're doing now is they're hiding the death count now because it's so low with Omicron.
03:08:54.000Proof that that information is getting out, and it's going to keep getting out.
03:08:57.000These alternative sources that they don't want you listening to, that CNN thinks they should be getting the ratings instead, this is escaping their grasp.
03:09:07.000And if people actually stand up and say, no, we're not going to do this, well, it's going to have to happen, though.
03:09:12.000If you want the positive path, it doesn't really matter too much if it's Republican or Democrat, but you're going to have more space on the Republican side of the aisle.
03:09:19.000The place where America is going to be put to the political test is going to be in the primaries this year because they're going to try to run a bunch of establishment stooges because they now know the Democrats have no prospects.
03:09:33.000So they're going to try to run a bunch of establishment stooges in the Republican people to kind of just keep the pot on simmer.
03:09:39.000We have to fix the schools, though, because the schools are their next best hope.
03:09:44.000If they can screw up the kids, then they're going to be able to just try again in a few years and throw another cultural bomb in wherever.
03:09:52.000As more people become 18 years old, their pool of talent grows larger.
03:09:56.000And so if we're willing to do everything in our power to rescue the schools and to avoid going into this kind of like digital passport mentality, Then we can throw off their plans.
03:10:07.000And I think what's going to happen, I think what they're reaching for so desperately, so many of these people are being exposed as either frauds or maybe even criminals.
03:10:14.000And they don't want that to happen because they're going to lose all their power and maybe go to jail.
03:10:18.000And so they're trying to like clamp down and make sure you can't listen to different voices that might call them criminals.
03:10:26.000They don't want to hear people like Dr. Malone come on here and say a bunch of stuff about COVID that makes them look like a bunch of either incompetent people or assholes or criminals.
03:11:03.000We have to be willing to stand up, and we have to be willing to speak up.
03:11:06.000We have to be willing to say, no, we're going to put people in office who are going to start safeguarding our freedom from big tech, safeguarding our freedom from these stupid...
03:11:42.000If we can get the right people and get enough momentum behind it and get those people to start figuring out the legalities of these things to protect citizens again, we can actually get out of this.