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00:00:36.000It's a giant convoy of trucks that's apparently some insane amount of people like 50,000 trucks that are headed to Ottawa to protest the vaccine mandates by Trudeau.
00:04:21.000You know, I see your posts and they're very exciting and you're deep, deep, deep in the water with a spear gun in your underwear like swimming around.
00:04:57.000Like, when I had a waterbed at one point in time, and if you're ever in a waterbed and the heat element goes out, you can't sleep in a waterbed.
00:05:07.000Like, you can't sleep in a cold waterbed.
00:05:32.000No, but that's not the main reason why I wear wetsuits, because there's a lot of creepy stuff out there, and I don't want fire crawl, a bunch of different things, so I just want to make sure that my skin is protected.
00:05:44.000Does anybody make a wetsuit that's like Kevlar?
00:07:32.000I mean, you must see this a lot because you're always diving.
00:07:35.000How animals have figured out a way somehow or another through natural selection and evolution to blend in with their environment, like with coral reefs.
00:07:44.000It's so interesting how animals figure out a way to camouflage themselves.
00:07:50.000I mean, the ocean has been around for...
00:08:41.000Yeah, you're not going to get massive tissue loss.
00:08:44.000You have to get to the hospital pretty quick.
00:08:46.000Plus, the shark will probably be frustrated and swim away, hopefully.
00:08:50.000I mean, most shark attack is very often, unless it's a rare occasion, they take one bite and they're like, I don't really like that, and they just swim away.
00:10:36.000And then if you want to compare that to a Zara jacket that's created a lot of pollution, it created a lot of borderline slaveries and poorer country.
00:11:31.000I mean, because they live in freezing cold water, so I'm guessing that the skin and the fur is actually really insulating and really made for...
00:11:39.000So that would be better, even if you were hiking in the mountains, than an insulated boot, wouldn't it?
00:13:29.000And this is the knock on fishing, is that people have an idea that fishing is not sustainable.
00:13:36.000And Jordan Peterson actually talked about this yesterday, and he said what they've figured out is that if you take large blocks of the ocean and make them off limits to fishing, because all the fish live within 40 miles of the shore,
00:13:52.000You said if you take large blocks of these areas and designate them as off-limits to fishing, then the fish grow and thrive in those areas, and then they venture out into other areas, and it's like, it helps.
00:14:15.000It's so basically what they call MPAs, which is marine protected areas.
00:14:19.000And there was a study who came to the conclusion of the fact that if you increase by something like 4-5% the amount of marine protected areas, you would increase a fish stock by 20%.
00:14:32.000The story was retracted because the doctor who was in charge of the study, apparently the study, the result was, or the study was depending on the result of this one, and it was a bunch of stuff that was just, like, kind of not okay at all.
00:14:47.000And, like, the other guy who co-authors the paper with her was her brother-in-law, so she broke a bunch of rules when it comes to etiquette kind of scientists.
00:14:54.000The guy who wrote the paper was her brother-in-law?
00:14:56.000Yeah, there was some weird things going on, and so the paper was retracted.
00:15:01.000The paper being retracted in the scientific industry is pretty intense.
00:16:17.000You know, you can think about protecting the ocean, you can think about carbon footprint, you can think about modern slavery, you can think about...
00:17:35.000So when you say sustainable, how do they do that?
00:17:38.000Are they doing that with offshore farms?
00:17:41.000Because I know they have some of those because I was in Hawaii and we were, shout out to my friends at Strike Zone, We were on a boat and we were catching these yellowfin tuna and this guy was telling me, one of the gentlemen that I was fishing with,
00:17:59.000that these fish are not even native to that area.
00:18:06.000They have this enormous like kind of roped off area where they had left, like I don't know how they do it, they have like a large net or something like that.
00:19:27.000What they often do, especially with bluefin tuna, like tuna that have very high value, is they're going to catch it in the wild, they're going to put it in the pans and just fad them up, making sure they're nice and chubby and then they can sell it too.
00:19:42.000Yeah, normally Persane is probably one of the, it accounts for a lot of, I think over 65% of the tuna catch around the world.
00:19:51.000It's a great way to catch tuna because it's basically you throw a net around a skull of tuna.
00:19:58.000So there's very little bycatch because you just grab that skull and then that's it.
00:20:01.000Okay, so you don't have to worry about dolphins.
00:20:04.000Yeah, so the problem becomes when you use what you call a FAD. So FAD is the fishing or grading device.
00:20:09.000And what it does is it creates like a little habitat.
00:20:12.000Normally it's like some stuff hanging and then you have a small fish, then the medium fish, then the big fish, and the predators around.
00:20:19.000So what a lot of people do is they put those fads in the middle of nowhere, create an ecosystem, throw a gigantic net around it, pick up everything.
00:20:28.000That's when the buycash gets terrible.
00:20:30.000But per se, when you're cashing a score without fads, the buycash is very, very low.
00:20:35.000So bycatch is what they call a collateral damage.
00:20:39.000So it's a bunch of fish that you don't want.
00:20:41.000What do they do with the fish that they don't want?
00:20:43.000Like what if they do that and they throw a net and they get like manta rays or something that they're not looking for?
00:21:52.000If they're horny, and you have camo on, you could be standing with your back to a tree, and you catch them on the right day, and if you've got a guy who has a cow call, it's like, meh, meh!
00:22:04.000They'll look right at you like, for real?
00:24:14.000Funny enough, I've killed deers and a bunch of fish and the only thing that I ever killed that felt very, very wrong to me, that I felt really bad inside, was an octopus.
00:27:04.000There's so much cool shit in the ocean.
00:27:06.000Like, whenever they do these, like, deep dives in the ocean and they find creatures that they've never discovered before, it just makes you wonder, like, what is down there?
00:27:57.000Somebody sent me a meme that said when your friends tell you that there's plenty of fish in the sea and they send like nine the ugliest fish in the ocean and it says that's the fish in the sea.
00:28:30.000Like, if you saw that in Avatar, and it was swimming around, and it was like eight feet long, and it was swallowing things that are ten feet long, you'd be like, what the fuck?
00:31:24.00034. Right now, you could have been like working towards, you know, like moving up in the company and you'd have to go on those stupid dinners and deal with all the company politics and instead you're in the ocean.
00:32:47.000Yeah, I'd heard about a guy who was a, I heard about on my friend Steve Rinella's podcast, where the guy was a professional fisherman, like you would go in the lakes and they would compete in tournaments, and he would eat a lot of fish.
00:33:02.000And those apparently are the ones that have the most heavy metal toxins, is a lot of freshwater fish.
00:33:56.000Stop doing that and then come back in a few months.
00:34:01.000I'm an obsessive, and one of the things that I'll do is I'll buy two cases of sardines.
00:34:08.000If I like a sardine company, I'm like, these are good.
00:34:11.000So I'll just buy two fucking cases, and then I'll come home from a comedy club at midnight, and I don't feel like cooking, But I want to watch a little YouTube or sit in front of the TV. So I'll eat three or four cans of sardines.
00:34:24.000And I was doing it all the fucking time.
00:34:27.000And so I was developing an arsenic problem.
00:35:07.000I think it's because we took pretty much all of our fish close to shore and now they got pissed off and decided to become pirates and kill us all or actually steal our money worse worse worse than that they started Europeans and other countries started dumping their toxic waste off this the shore of Somalia and They killed all the fish and so these Somali fishermen they call themselves I think they call themselves the people's
00:35:54.000So they started kidnapping these people that were the captains of these boats that were dumping this toxic waste, and they would demand a ransom.
00:36:04.000And then once they did that, they go, you know what?
00:38:55.000Like the People's Navy of Somalia or something?
00:38:58.000So I was digging through an article about it and I didn't find that first.
00:39:05.000It's interesting because, you know, by other people being assholes, they force these, you know, pleasant, kind fishermen into becoming pirates.
00:39:30.000But if you hear Somalis got fucked over, they used to be fishermen, and people were dumping toxic waste overseas, and it forced them into becoming pirates, you're like...
00:41:08.000When people are separated from everything, we think of the worst possible thing that they could do to us, whether it's in the ocean or in the fall, like even a baby in the woods.
00:41:20.000If you saw a baby in the woods looking at you, you'd be like, ah, it's a fucking baby!
00:42:02.000So because, especially even if you're far away, you know, they have small fishing boats that don't show on the radar.
00:42:09.000So you kind of have to be on the lookout and look every five minutes on both sides of the boat to see if you see lights to make sure you don't kill somebody at the end of the night.
00:42:17.000Have you seen the video that just got out recently of these guys that are fishing on this boat?
00:42:22.000They're just sitting there with their rods fishing, and this boat is coming straight towards them, and they wave, and then they realize, oh my god, this boat's not going to stop, and they jump into the water.
00:44:13.000Yeah, but also, you're wakeboarding and then at some point you let go of the rope and then you fall down the board and then you're in the middle of the lake.
00:44:17.000And then you have to look out for other people.
00:44:35.000The jet skis they have now, they're so fast.
00:44:38.000I bought this house and it had jet skis, like it came with jet skis, and we bought that jet skis from the people, and then my wife wanted to get better ones, so we got these.
00:44:46.000I'm like, why wouldn't these be so fine?
00:44:48.000Then she got these new jet skis, and they're fucking preposterous.
00:44:52.000The jet skis they make today are so goddamn fast.
00:44:56.000They're like zero to 60 in a couple of seconds, like a car.
00:47:29.000One of the most hardcore spearfishing you can also do, which can also be qualified as a bit dumb, you basically jump off the back of a shrimper.
00:47:43.000So, of course, a lot of shrimp getting loose into the water, and then you have thousands of sharks circling around.
00:47:51.000And you have basically, you get in the water, you pass the sharks, and tunas are below, getting the scraps from the shark.
00:51:32.000Exactly, because if you have a big hunting trip, and you shoot an elk, and say you're out there for a week and a half, you're in the backcountry, and maybe this is something you've been planning for for years, You budgeted.
00:52:33.000Well, if you're in Austin, Texas, and you're looking for archery equipment, you want to get set up, they're a fucking amazing shop, Archery Country.
00:54:32.000So if this was this iron thing, you go around the shoulder like that and then put it in front of you and around like that and put it in front of you.
00:54:38.000So the whole idea is like you're strengthening all these muscles in your shoulder and then you're also strengthening your ability to hold it out less.
00:54:46.000And there's a bunch of other exercises I do with them, a bunch of different kinds of exercises.
00:55:12.000Onnit has a thing called Onnit 6. It's all these different workouts, bodyweight workouts, kettlebell workouts, all kinds of stuff that you can do at home that they devised during COVID to help people.
00:55:24.000If they couldn't get to a gym, you could just buy a couple of pieces of equipment like a steel club, and they'll set you through all of these different exercises and workouts.
00:57:18.000So I do MMA stuff on Tuesday and then grappling on Thursday.
00:57:22.000It really came up from the fact that, you know, I'm a girl, I'm traveling by myself, so I just really wanted to have kind of a base of when it comes to self-defense type of stuff.
00:57:46.000The thing is, it was like her first or second class or something, and I had headgear on, and she didn't.
00:57:54.000So I was only allowed to hit her in her body, and my coach kept telling her, like, you know, just use maybe like 10-50% of your strength, and she keeps hitting me as hard as she could in her face.
01:00:10.000Not like it's, you know, you just want to not prove yourself a little bit, but...
01:00:14.000You know the solution to that, though, is to do drills first.
01:00:17.000Like my friend Dwayne Ludwig, he teaches at Bang Muay Thai, which is like...
01:00:23.000Dwayne, he was a world-class kickboxer, awesome MMA fighter.
01:00:28.000He held the record at one point in time with the fastest knockout in the UFC. But what he really excels at, maybe even more than fighting, which he was really awesome at fighting, but he's a fantastic coach.
01:00:37.000And one of the things he's done is he's broken down his system.
01:00:40.000All of his martial arts techniques he's got written in books.
01:00:46.000I've never seen anybody more thorough.
01:00:49.000And he's in Arvada, Colorado, I believe.
01:00:52.000outside of denver and uh what duane does is before you don't just start sparring with duane with duane everybody is working on combinations like you would throw like one two left hook to the body right low kick and then my job would be to block block step check And then we would do it again.
01:02:20.000I got into it thinking it was just about defending myself and just hitting something and getting some pressure release and stuff like that.
01:02:29.000Especially from jiu-jitsu, I really enjoyed the whole mental aspect of it, of trying to find what your next move is going to be and that type of stuff.
01:02:42.000I have a whole thing on my phone that I have saved up of all these different moves that I've seen guys do that I've never seen anybody do before.
01:02:56.000I have a whole folder of these moves where I'll review them.
01:03:00.000I'm like, how the fuck is he doing that?
01:03:01.000And I'll have to watch it like three, four times.
01:03:03.000The way this person's setting up like an omoplata to the back control.
01:03:08.000And then I'm like, okay, is that real?
01:03:09.000And then I'll send it to Eddie Bravo and I'll say, hey, is this legit?
01:03:13.000And he'll go, that looks pretty legit.
01:03:15.000And then he'll try it or he'll go, that's not legit because of this.
01:03:18.000And it's like there's so many techniques.
01:03:32.000Any other martial art in that regard because there's like an infinite number of possibilities that the human body can kind of engage in these entanglements with.
01:06:13.000When you see 60,000 people, when George walked to the Octagon, the roar that they got when they introduced George's name, it was fucking crazy.
01:06:25.000I mean, like to this day, like I took my earphones off and I looked around and I was like, holy shit!
01:11:15.000But the point is, he got really into Jiu-Jitsu later in life, and one of the things that he decided he wanted to do is he wanted to work his way up to training and then competing in a tournament.
01:11:26.000So he was training basically every day.
01:11:32.000He would do two training sessions a day.
01:11:35.000He would have a private class for over an hour, and then he would do the group class and spar with people every fucking day.
01:11:52.000Like, I remember he sent me a message because he was in some like Eastern Bloc European country and he trained with this Carlson Gracie school.
01:12:03.000And Carlson Gracie, their team was always known as like Top game, pressure, smash-passing, really brutal, old-school power jujitsu.
01:12:14.000And he's like, I'm shitting out bone chips.
01:12:18.000Because he was just getting smushed by these fucking animals.
01:12:22.000It's like super tough guys that were just crushing him.
01:12:25.000I mean, he's a very inspiring person in general.
01:17:51.000I could see the deer tumbling down the hill and I was like, I just can't take it.
01:18:00.000And then when I walked all the way to the deer and I saw it on the ground, I just remember putting my hand on it and I stopped crying at that point.
01:18:09.000And it's kind of, the emotion shifted.
01:19:49.000This big, wild animal that was in its world.
01:19:54.000And it was probably like four or five years old, so it had been living in this area for its whole life and moving around and avoiding mountain lions and getting around.
01:22:05.000There's some weird caveman DNA that gets excited when you barbecue.
01:22:08.000But when you're barbecuing over a fire from some logs that you found when you're in the woods, there's no one around you for miles away.
01:22:20.000It's nine degrees outside and you're laying down these back straps over this little tiny grill that we brought with us that sits over the fire.
01:22:30.000And you're eating this meat from an animal that you just shot.
01:22:34.000And then you're all sitting around eating it.
01:24:20.000I'm going to do this because next time I'm pulling a trigger, I'm going to make sure that I'm careful and that I'm slow and I'm taking my time.
01:24:27.000And so, you know, like I remember so vividly just putting the gun on the end of the deer and finishing it.
01:24:35.000Then I was shaking and I was just like...
01:24:38.000And when it was over, I just closed my eyes and I was like, okay, that's done.
01:24:43.000And then we got back to camp and then he was like, oh, this guy is going to take care of processing.
01:24:47.000I was like, no, not even a little bit.
01:24:51.000So that island came and we together, we just cut it.
01:24:55.000He showed me how to process everything.
01:24:59.000And even then, I went to bed that night and I was not feeling that great.
01:25:03.000I was like, we still haven't eaten it.
01:25:06.000And then the following day, so we processed the whole thing.
01:25:10.000I went with a butcher, I cut everything, you know, made like ground beef.
01:25:17.000We did sausages with a bunch of stuff, and then the second it became pure meat, and then it looked like meat, and then I kind of hated that night.
01:25:26.000For me, the circle was closed, and this is when the guilt went away.
01:25:30.000So it took like a few days, but it's like the whole process of doing everything, and I would never go hunting without doing the whole thing.
01:27:57.000So when you have a guy who's a really great chef who also knows how to hunt and process his own game and it's like there's an attention to detail and like a respect and a love that he puts into those meals.
01:31:07.000I managed to pick up, piss off a popular girl in school because a guy invited me to go to a movie and it just became a shit show from them on.
01:31:18.000If social media were added to that situation, I don't think I would have made it.
01:33:36.000It depends, but it kind of made me develop these different mechanisms, and I'm like, well, your mommy didn't love you enough, clearly, because if you're losing your entire day, insulting people online, it's kind of trying to realize that if you're being negative on social media,
01:34:33.000It's like you have to be a real sociopath to be mean to someone in real life and not feel anything.
01:34:40.000But online, they don't feel shit because you're not even there.
01:34:43.000So they'll say horrible things about you.
01:34:45.000This fucking bitch, I hope she gets killed by a tuna.
01:34:47.000And you're like, what the fuck did I do to you?
01:34:52.000Yeah, the internet is definitely a funny place.
01:34:56.000But also, I think people need to remember that everybody has their shit going on in their life, and everybody has crap happening, and just always remember that.
01:36:51.000I mean, the best advice somebody ever gave me is, they told me, you could be the Swedish most amazing tasting peach in the world, nobody's gonna like fucking peaches.
01:37:44.000I think it's about just, you know, you don't like jazz, you just don't listen to it.
01:37:49.000Yeah, but that's the cool thing is that humans vary so much that something that is completely uninteresting to you, like opera, completely uninteresting, to someone else...
01:41:41.000I probably kept like 10 pounds of it, not even.
01:41:44.000So you brought 50 pounds home, so you just give away the other 40?
01:41:48.000Yeah, I actually put on my Instagram that I was giving away Marlin at the grocery store, corner of that street and that street, and I just gave away all of it.
01:42:09.000So when you shot this Marlin, how long before you could actually get it in the boat?
01:42:15.000Like, how much time does it take after you shoot a Marlin?
01:42:17.000It took me about two hours, so the fish basically just took off and it was...
01:42:25.000As soon as I shot it, so basically I was in the water and I saw this marlin coming from the deep.
01:42:32.000And of course when I tried going towards it, it was swimming away.
01:42:35.000So I kind of just turned around and looking from the corner of my eye and he just turned away because I was like, what's that thing not even looking at me?
01:42:43.000And he turned around and gave me a complete broad shot.
01:43:08.000And so I was like, okay, my gun was pretty small, so I thought I can either shoot it in the gills, but then I would risk to just not go all the way through it, and you really want the spear to go all the way through it.
01:43:19.000So I shot it mid-body, and the spear went through it, and I went back to the surface, grabbed onto the buoy.
01:43:26.000One buoy is not a lot for fish that's that big.
01:43:28.000And you just hung onto the buoy and went for a ride?
01:43:31.000So I like bear hugged the buoy, and I was yelling at the boat, bring me that buoy to have a big fish on!
01:44:10.000So I'm kind of waiting for it to slow down and to tire it up.
01:44:14.000When I feel there's no pressure anymore, so there's, like, a clip, and then the bungee cord, I, like, I put it up, I put it up, and then when the fish come close enough, so I had a second, smaller gun to give it, like, a last shot, basically, and...
01:44:27.000The first seven to eight times, the fish that Sunnis was seeing me was going back down.
01:47:53.000So if you shoot at a tuna, you would aim at the tip of the nose because by the time you shoot, even if the fish looks like he's not moving, he's moving.
01:48:40.000See, the way people have described it to me, they said you would love spearfishing to me, because they said it's basically like bow hunting in the water.
01:49:44.000When you're not good at spearfishing, normally it's because you move around and you're very gently in the water and this is when the fish is like, eat it once and like, I'm just going to go do my thing.
01:51:28.000One of them I saw in Montecito, which is outside of Santa Barbara in California, which is weird because it's like this beautiful suburban community.
01:56:07.000That's one of the more unique things about the path that you've chosen because you were not a person who grew up hunting and fishing and living in the wild and you chose that life.
01:56:18.000So you had to kind of integrate yourself and you had to become a part of that world and figure out the rules of that world and understand There's a lot of people that don't.
01:56:28.000They don't ever understand that world.
01:56:30.000But as you know, because it was the same situation for you, right?
01:56:44.000Not giving enough credibility to the passion you can develop when you get that.
01:56:48.000Like the story you were telling about hunting earlier, you can fall in love with this lifestyle and this way of living so hard, even though it was not...
01:57:00.000Like I told you earlier, as I was a kid, I was scared of my own fucking shadow when growing up.
01:57:05.000It's like, you know, I can barely lift like a five pounder.
01:57:10.000You change and you evolve and that's just the way you become and I think it's not that different and I don't think you get less either credibility or you're allowed to love it as much as somebody who's been doing it since they were four.
01:58:49.000It's like, that's how you learn, and then next time you get better, or eventually you get better, and then you look back at that time where you sucked.
01:58:57.000Like, one of the things that led me to excel in jiu-jitsu was thinking how badly I got abused when I was a white belt.
01:59:09.000And I remember thinking, I can't believe how easy it is for these guys to mangle me.
01:59:14.000I was not by any stretch of the imagination like an overnight success in jiu-jitsu.
01:59:21.000Not by any stretch of the imagination.
01:59:22.000I was a brown belt for eight fucking years.
01:59:24.000So it's like, when I remember my white belt days, I think about it and I was like, that is probably one of the biggest motivating factors for me to keep going.
01:59:57.000Like when I went from Taekwondo to boxing, I wasn't good at boxing at all, but I was definitely way ahead of someone who had never done striking before.
02:00:11.000Like when I got into kickboxing, I was pretty good pretty quick because I had already gotten good at kicking things and I had done some punching in Taekwondo and I'm like, I'm just going to learn some fundamentals and I'm going to excel at this.
02:00:22.000But then when I got into Jiu Jitsu, I was like, oh my God, I'm on the ground floor.
02:00:27.000Like, I'm literally, I thought I was on, like, the fourth floor.
02:00:35.000But I always remember thinking, like, this is incredible because the guy who, several people humiliated me, but I always remember this one purple belt one day just brutalized me.
02:00:45.000And I would think, this guy wasn't bigger than me.
02:02:00.000Thinking that she's going to be like, oh, are you okay?
02:02:03.000She went into the album of my childhood, digged up a photo of me who just fell off my bicycle crying, took a photo, sent it to me and said like, looks like you haven't got much better.
02:04:30.000So we went maybe probably about like 20 miles, 30 miles away if I'm sure.
02:04:34.000And so they explained to me that this is going to be like about like 150 feet deep of water and I'm not going to see the bottom and have to jump in the water and just do drops and just like take a dive, look around, come back up.
02:05:56.000I've never had friends who've given me, like, hands-outs, like, like, oh, I'm going to do this for you, I'm going to help you, and blah, blah, blah.
02:06:15.000So I was in Alabama, I shot a deer, got dark, nobody's coming to pick me up yet because there's other people with deer, so I'm like, I've seen Cameron Haynes do that, I'm gonna put that fucking deer on my back.
02:07:45.000And I didn't understand what it was like to be in the mountains.
02:07:48.000Like the amount of cardiovascular energy you need and the amount of endurance you need and the amount of physical strength you need just to carry things up the mountain.
02:07:57.000Like if you have to bring an animal down, if you have to pack an animal out.
02:08:01.000He had a rock that weighed like 130 pounds and he would carry it on his shoulder.
02:08:31.000Well, next time you can take me and you can carry me, like you guys can just carry me in a backpack at least and just stick my head out and just look at the landscape around.
02:11:30.000Just start doing something where you, you know, like cable rows are the best.
02:11:33.000Because here's the thing with cable rows, Cam does these.
02:11:35.000You could take a weight, like a 25-pound dumbbell or a 10-pound dumbbell, whatever, and just hold it straight out like this, and then grab a cable, like a cable machine, and pull back like that.
02:11:46.000And just practice pulling back, and you'll develop all those muscles that you use to pull back a bow.
02:11:53.000Yeah, I think a training plan is probably a good thing.
02:13:44.000Like, if you want to keep your audience small, like, this podcast might get to a point where I might, like, put up a paywall just so nobody listens.
02:13:53.000Just get to a point where you could slide into obscurity.
02:14:07.000Put up a paywall and then donate a lot of money to charity so people don't get mad at me about the money.
02:14:14.000But just to make it so that it's harder to get.
02:14:16.000But it's good to have people that know what they're doing and that are very knowledgeable because you know that it's spear fishermen or hunters.
02:14:26.000We have a very big reputation of being a dumbass who just likes to kill stuff.
02:15:14.000And all the different things that we do, all the different things that we do, whether it's race car driving or ballet or yoga, they're harder than you think they are.
02:16:46.000But the thing is, if you see like George St. Pierre training, you go, oh, wow, this is wild.
02:16:52.000You get to see it at a super high level and all the exchanges and all the positions and all the different transitions that they're going through.
02:17:24.000I think there's a stigma, too, about the fact that it's, you know, what society often doesn't understand, it's easier to critique, in a way, and it's easier for people to understand a vegan who says, I love animals and I don't want to eat it,
02:17:41.000and that's a better, that's a statement that's It's easier to understand that, like, yeah, I go out there, I train, I actually harvest, like, protein, then I bring it back home.
02:17:52.000I bet if that vegan was staring down one of those grizzly bears in Wyoming, or that mountain lion that that guy shot, I think they'd have a completely different thought about what wildlife is.
02:20:13.000It can't be good for you if it's filled with palm oils and shit.
02:20:16.000It's because you have to do a lot of weird processed stuff to make a lot of those fake vegan foods.
02:20:21.000But if you want to make, like, Indian food, you know, like, there was a great vegetarian restaurant near my house in California that was an Indian place.
02:20:30.000And, I mean, it was fucking straight from India.
02:20:34.000Like, these people were, you know, they spoke Indian.
02:21:48.000The stock has plummeted for Beyond Meat.
02:21:50.000I think they started out of the gate really strong.
02:21:52.000I don't think they're doing so good right now.
02:21:54.000There was a photo of when the hurricane was hitting, and they showed these shelves in Louisiana where all the meat was gone, but all the Beyond Meat was still sitting there.
02:22:04.000It's definitely way lower over the year.
02:22:17.000It might taste like a cheeseburger if you get Thousand Island dressing on it and pickles and onions and you put it in a bun and you're confused by all the corresponding flavors.
02:22:27.000But if you cut me a piece of cheeseburgers, because when I eat cheeseburgers, most of the time I don't eat bread.
02:24:15.000I was like, there's, like, sugar in this goddamn thing.
02:24:17.000I was just going to ask if you guys had heard of, because I worked at a restaurant that served imitation crab meat, but this was a long time ago, so it couldn't have been plant-based.
02:31:46.000So basically, the company is called Superhumans, and we have SuperCalm, SuperSleep, SuperMind, and SuperHole, and different type of breathing exercises because, as you know, bread fork is so freaking powerful, right?