On this episode of the podcast, we have a special guest, Mr. Beast. He's a YouTube channel creator, YouTuber, and podcaster. We talk about how he started his channel, how he got into gaming, and what it's like to be in a world where you can hear your own voice on the other side of the screen. We also talk about the weirdest thing he's ever heard, and how he's been able to make it this far in his YouTube channel without headphones. We also discuss how he came up with the idea for his first video game, Battle Pirates, which is a game where you have to hack other people's brain cells to make your own. And of course, we talk about some other cool stuff. If you haven't played Battle Pirates yet, you should definitely do so. It's a fun game with tons of cool features, and it's worth the price of admission if you're looking for a chance to try it out! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Thanks for listening and supporting this podcast. Please rate, review, and subscribe on Apple Podcasts and subscribe to our other podcast, and spread the word to your friends about this podcast! We really appreciate it! Timestamps: 0:00:00 - What's your favorite game you've played? 5:15 - What do you think of Battle Pirates? 6: What are your favorite video game? 7: What game do you've ever played that you've been playing? 8:30 - What game you ve been playing the most recently? 9:40 - How do you like about it? 11:20 - What would you want to play more of? 12:00 | What game are you most excited about? 13:00 16:30 | What are you looking forward to? 15:40 | Which game would you'd like to see me play next? 17:10 | What's the most challenging game you're playing right now? 18:40 19:20 | What is your favorite thing? 21: What is the worst thing that you're most excited by? 22:30 23:10 25:00 // What s your biggest takeaway from this episode? 26:30 What s the most interesting thing you've heard so far?
00:01:54.000Your personality comes through, the way you've crafted these things that people have to do, these tasks and these games and this fun shit you do.
00:03:21.000The very first video, weirdly enough, I played this stupid game and some hacker killed my base when I was 11, and so I uploaded it, and my first video got 20,000 views instantly, because all the people that played the game was like, oh shit, you can hack in this game?
00:03:41.000Yeah, it was a really small game, but I uploaded that, and I got 20,000 views, and that was probably the best thing that could have ever happened to me, because then I was hooked from day one.
00:03:49.000Literally, like, most people, it takes hundreds of videos before you get, like, one view, and somehow the very first video I uploaded at 11 got, like, 20,000 views, and then I was just like, oh, I fell in love, and I've been hooked ever since.
00:06:04.000I just can't stand having to just sit there and listen to this dumb stuff and listen to some teacher read out a book.
00:06:10.000So, what I did was I would act like I was going to community college, but I would just work on videos in my car and edit and stuff like that.
00:08:07.000But I have hyper-obsession, and I love this.
00:08:11.000Given enough time, anyone can solve it.
00:08:13.000Well, there's a lesson in that for people, really.
00:08:15.000If you do have a hyper-obsession to something, there's a lot of people that think that because they're bad at school or because they're not interested in school that they're destined to be a loser.
00:08:47.000Well, and you take it a step further because I thought, especially if you're like extremely passionate about something at a young age, where most kids are, then you're even, it's more exacerbated that it's like, you know, I didn't talk to anyone.
00:09:00.000I hardly had any friends because I was so obsessed with YouTube as back then just no one cared.
00:09:04.000So it's like, I thought I was just like, just didn't even know how to speak.
00:09:09.000Literally, I just couldn't hold a conversation with a single person because people would just tell me all you talk about is YouTube.
00:09:14.000And I would try to talk about something else, but back then I was so hyper-obsessed that I literally just didn't know how to.
00:10:08.000We would just call it daily masterminds.
00:10:10.000We would just get on Skype every morning, and some days I'd get on Skype at 7 a.m., and I'd be in the call until 10 p.m., and then I'd go to bed, I'd wake up, and I'd do it again.
00:10:18.000We'd do things like take a thousand thumbnails and see if there's a correlation to the brightness of the thumbnail to how many views it got, or videos that get over 10 million views.
00:10:28.000It's like, how often do they cut the camera angles, or things like that.
00:10:34.000We were very religious about it, and so that's where most of my knowledge came from, is I just surrounded myself with these lunatics, and just every day, we didn't do anything.
00:10:57.000Because it's like, if you envision a world where you're trying to be great at something, and it's just like you learning and fucking up and learning from your mistakes.
00:11:07.000If someone could just edit out the swear words and give it to me, so I could give it to my mom to listen to, that would be great.
00:11:13.000But you mess up, you learn from your mistake, you mess up, you learn from your mistake.
00:11:16.000You, in two years, might have learned from 20 mistakes, or if you have four other people who are also messing up, and when they learn from the mistake, they teach you what they learn.
00:11:24.000Hypothetically, you, two years down the road, have learned five times more of the amount of stuff.
00:11:29.000So it just helps you grow exponentially way quicker, if that makes any sense.
00:13:59.000So we have, like, before a video gets uploaded, we have three different people who basically write the transcript, and then if the words don't line up on all three, then...
00:14:06.000Or, sorry, let me think about the process.
00:14:09.000We have something like that, because I was worried about that as well.
00:14:11.000I think we take the original transcript, and then we have it dubbed, and then after stuff, we have, like, two different people write out, and if it doesn't line up with the original, then there's, like...
00:14:44.000Japan's coming up, and I can't say who, but we secured a giant voice actor from an anime to do my doves, and whenever we launch in Japan, I know they're going to lose their freaking minds.
00:15:25.000One of the things that I was really impressed by when I started looking into you after my daughter introduced me is that you invest so much money into the show.
00:15:41.000I think living your life chasing, like, a nicer, nicer car and a bigger and bigger box to live in is kind of, like, a dumb way to go about life.
00:15:48.000Yeah, so I actually, funny enough, I lived in, like, a super below-average home, and I kind of learned why famous people don't live in below-average homes, because someone broke in, stole everything I owned.
00:15:59.000So I had to get a little nicer house for security reasons, but before I was robbed, I mean, like, my place was...
00:16:04.000A little duplex, $700 a month, you get a roommate's 360 split.
00:16:34.000We do a lot of stuff for helping people, and so also if I lived in a $10 million mansion while I'm feeding people and trying to help people, in my eyes, it's also a little hypocritical as well.
00:16:42.000So in every area, I feel like it's just better if I just live below my knees.
00:16:47.000You're just very wise for a young man, because a lot of 23-year-olds would be Balling out of their fucking mind right now.
00:17:30.000But you're making astounding amounts of money, I would imagine.
00:17:33.000Yeah, but hypothetically, if you do a brand deal and a brand owes you half a million dollars, sometimes they don't pay for four months.
00:17:38.000Well, I already spent that half a million dollars when I gave it away in that video.
00:17:42.000So it's like, there's never been a point where I'm negative.
00:17:45.000Technically, money's inbound, but sometimes you just have to wait.
00:17:48.000But I've got to keep going and keep filming.
00:17:51.000Wow, it's very unusual that someone would spend that much money reinvesting in the show.
00:17:56.000Yeah, which ironically is why we made more money last year than any other YouTuber on the platform.
00:18:03.000The thing is, for YouTube, a lot of people are very young.
00:18:09.000There's so much money in this industry, but most people are so young that they just don't even realize the opportunity they have and they don't understand a lot of these things.
00:18:15.000And so I think that's, like, it shouldn't be revolutionary that I reinvest all my money.
00:18:20.000Like, that's something businesses have been doing for centuries, you know what I mean?
00:18:23.000It's not that crazy, but I think just, like I was saying, like, people are just so young and they don't understand, like, you know, the opportunity you have here.
00:18:30.000I mean, if you have 50 million people that watch everything you do, you can start a business and you can do anything, you know what I mean?
00:18:54.000Because you give a 23-year-old the kind of money that you're making, most of them are going to just go fucking crazy.
00:19:00.000Think even younger, because I started getting money when I was 19, 20. And so there's so many things I want to say on that, because I agree, and I feel like I have some good advice to add for people in those positions.
00:19:12.000First off, to be this successful as a YouTuber, you kind of have to understand there's three different pillars that make a Like, get us where we are.
00:19:20.000Like, you have to have the business sense, reinvest, hire, scale up.
00:19:23.000I mean, the things we're doing are huge logistical nightmares.
00:19:25.000Have you ever tried to buy a private island and, you know, and you buy a private island and there's no beach, and so you have to terraform a beach and build a pier and stuff like that?
00:20:51.000This one, I'd have to see them all in particular.
00:20:53.000This one's a mix of random people and my boys.
00:20:56.000The hard thing is sometimes I love pulling random people, but...
00:21:01.000If you grab random people, sometimes people just don't know how to act on camera and they freeze up and they're really not good for content.
00:21:07.000In an ideal world, everyone in my videos is just purely random, which is what I'm trying to get towards because I'm trying to get better at filtering out the random people that just freeze up and aren't good on camera.
00:21:17.000That one's a little older, so some of those are people I knew because I knew they'd make good content.
00:21:21.000I would bring someone in a video and they'd win something and they'd just freeze up and they'd do nothing.
00:25:57.000I mean, because I can run you through it.
00:25:59.000That's why, like, this originally was supposed to cost two million dollars, but as we're going through it, it's like, oh, fuck, now it's two and a half?
00:27:06.000And it's kind of like a money game because I want to reinvest to go big on videos, but I also need to build infrastructure, so it's kind of like a balancing act.
00:27:32.000And so basically we have this ginormous warehouse, soundproof.
00:27:35.000I can do shit like blow up a car in it because there's like a thousand sprinklers that you'll drown before you burn to death in there or like light a fire or anything, which is good.
00:28:57.000Because no one's telling you to do this.
00:28:59.000This is not like you have Universal Studios behind you and they're like, Mr. Beast, this is what we planned and we have hired these people.
00:29:16.000Not that I think I'm a genius, but it's like basically up until like two years ago, every step of the way, two people are throwing tomatoes and telling you you're stupid for reinvesting.
00:29:26.000And everyone also thinks like the life cycle of YouTubers, like two years.
00:29:29.000And it's like, well, you know, in two years you're going to be irrelevant when it's only two years if you just don't do interesting shit, you know?
00:29:55.000Yeah, they get the cookie cutter formula.
00:29:57.000Also, that video too, looking at the view count reminded me, I think Netflix in total has 220 million subscribers, and that video just crossed 220 million views.
00:30:30.000And you had to design everything and build everything and then...
00:30:32.000And I also want to put out there, I have some amazing people on my team because that video without like, I mean, I have arguably some of the smartest people in the world when it comes to just creating viral content and YouTube and stuff like that.
00:30:43.000Without them, that wouldn't be possible because it's not like I'm over there like designing every little set and I'm, you know, custom building the squibs that were rigging on them and designing the app, you know.
00:30:52.000It's taken a long time, but I would literally, without a doubt in my mind, say we have the smartest people in the world when it comes to making viral content.
00:30:58.000And no one else can do this type of stuff.
00:31:45.000Also, people who work in unscripted or like shows like that where it's not like a set.
00:31:50.000People who are not planned typically to do better in our environment, but if you worked on Wheel of Fortune, you would do horrible in our environment.
00:32:29.000Yeah, I mean, if it's closer to a video, you know, it gets crunch time.
00:32:32.000But, like, right now, we're not even really filming that much.
00:32:35.000Because we've just had a lot of videos fall through because of COVID. Is it stressful to have, like, such a big staff?
00:32:42.000Yeah, I mean, my life is very stressful, because we haven't even touched on, like, have you seen our gaming channel, our React channel?
00:32:48.000No, I want to get to all that, but just the way the whole thing is structured is fascinating to me, because obviously you're at the top, and you're the guy who's calling the shots, and it's your channel, but it seems like you've got a whole ecosystem under you.
00:33:44.000They just, like, the people, they just come from everywhere, you know?
00:33:47.000I don't even know how to explain it, because it's, like, I basically just hired one person a month every month for, like, the last five years, essentially.
00:34:12.000So the difference between a video on YouTube, and this is where I can go infinitely in depth, the difference between a video with a million views or 10 million views usually isn't that like the 10 million view video, or actually a better example would be a million views and 30 million views.
00:34:23.000The video with 30 million views usually didn't put in 30 times the effort.
00:34:26.000Like, they might have put in two or three times the effort and just had a way better idea.
00:34:30.000And so, once you kind of understand that, which I understood, like, I kind of started to understand that, like, when I was 19, you realize that, like, the idea is so freaking important.
00:34:39.000Like, you could, theoretically, most YouTubers watching this, you could pull triple the views with half the work if you just had better ideas.
00:35:22.000I've tried lucid dreaming to see if I could trick myself to come up with ideas while I'm sleeping and stuff like that.
00:35:27.000I work really well when I... Intake inspiration and I see what pops in my head.
00:35:32.000That's like the most effective way for me to come up with ideas.
00:35:34.000So it's like I just try different ways of intaking inspiration, whether it be like traveling, random words, flipping through a dictionary, things like that.
00:35:41.000And that's always, for me, been the way to like consistently come up with good ideas.
00:35:46.000So you actively seek these ideas out and you try to come up with different ways to just have them manifest.
00:37:04.000If, like, one of the bits was me to cook food, well, because of the ventilation, you can't light a fire in there.
00:37:08.000So then it's like you got to change it.
00:37:10.000So it's like a lot of back and forth like that over the course of months and then you get a final product, which is why you need intelligent people working on it so they can, like, do that and they can occasionally make decisions on their own without having to push it all up to me because then I want to kill myself.
00:37:21.000And this has been all just a trial and error sort of thing from the beginning of your first videos to now.
00:37:27.000Do you ever stop and look at when you've got a video like that that has 224 million views and look at how insane your reach is and go, how the fuck?
00:37:48.000It's like, obviously, it just feels like numbers on the screen.
00:37:51.000But if I tried to visualize 100 million people, it's unfathomable.
00:37:54.000Now, you're in an unusual situation, too, because YouTube is, you know, it's a weird place, because it's got these, you have like partnership deals, right?
00:38:04.000So you get a piece of the ad revenue, but you essentially don't have a contract.
00:38:10.000Like, YouTube can just go, you know what, fuck Mr. Beast.
00:38:16.000But you're in this weird – like if they change the way they monetize things for any reason.
00:38:21.000I know that has happened to certain people, right, where they used to have some sort of a deal with YouTube where they were making videos and for whatever reason YouTube demonetized them and they go into full-blown panic.
00:38:41.000It's like the advertisers putting pressure on them, and they're just trying to— But my point was, have you been approached to be independent of something like that?
00:38:51.000You could have your own servers, your own website, your own deals with advertisers where you get 100% of the revenue rather than— I love YouTube.
00:39:18.000I can have one of the largest audiences in the world.
00:39:22.000Instead of thinking about building my own platform, I'd rather think about building businesses, leveraging my audience off of YouTube, like Beast Burger and our snack brand and other stuff like that.
00:39:30.000I feel like that's a better use of time instead of just nuking my audience.
00:39:33.000Well, I don't think it would nuke your audience.
00:39:35.000My point is I think you're so big that you would just transfer anywhere.
00:39:38.000Yeah, but you would take that, but then you don't have like, because we're constantly gaining new people.
00:39:43.000Like last year we gained, on the main channel alone, we're the most subscribed to channel in the world.
00:39:47.000We gained 36 million subscribers on the main channel.
00:40:42.000So I love this platform more than anything.
00:40:44.000Listen, I love YouTube, too, with all the problems that they have.
00:40:47.000I think it is absolutely amazing that they've created this thing where someone can make a living and an incredible living just creating content.
00:40:57.000I don't know how to say this, it doesn't sound arrogant, but if you knew what I know about how to make a good video and go viral, even if you had zero subscribers, you could be making 100 grand a month in half a year.
00:41:07.000Anyone in the world can be a successful YouTuber, and to me, that's the beauty of the platform.
00:41:12.000And it's very unique in that there's a lot of other platforms, but no one ever figured out a way where someone could be fully dedicated to it and make a living off it.
00:41:47.000It was a great idea because that's, like, I don't really use Spotify that much, but I, you know, all the time your clips occasionally pop up on my homepage, on my TV. And so if you, in my world, because, like, there are, like, these different worlds now.
00:42:01.000Like, there are some people that only use TikTok.
00:42:02.000So, like, if you're not on TikTok, you just don't exist in the world.
00:42:55.000I have had instances where I would say certain things in conversations and then later that night I would get into my feed something similar.
00:43:01.000Like if I talked about dogs a lot and then I'd weirdly start getting TikToks about dogs.
00:43:07.000My friend told me that she was talking to this lady and they were just having a conversation and then she looked at her TikTok and TikTok suggested her.
00:44:52.000But curated by the CCP, where they're trying, or whatever, in conjunction with, where they're trying to elevate the quality of the lives of the kids that are addicted to this TikTok.
00:45:03.000So instead of them being addicted to putting piss in the hand soap container, instead of doing something like that, like...
00:45:12.000What they're doing is showing science experiments.
00:45:15.000They're showing kids accomplishing great athletic goals.
00:45:18.000And it's motivating people to do good things and improve themselves, which is totally possible here.
00:45:24.000But the problem is you would have to have some sort of overview, like some sort of Orwellian restrictions brought down from the governments to make sure that kids only see that kind of thing.
00:45:37.000But here in America, if you did that, people just wouldn't use it.
00:45:57.000At the end of the day, I can hire creative people to help come up with bits.
00:46:02.000I can hire production people to help do the videos and editors.
00:46:06.000The only thing I can't outsource is me actually filming.
00:46:09.000At the end of the day, that's the only thing that I'm the only person that can do.
00:46:12.000So in an ideal world, I spend as much of my time as possible filming and not doing other stuff because we have multiple different channels and stuff like that.
00:46:23.00090% of my work week is just filming shit and nothing else.
00:46:26.000Yeah, I mean, when you're in the middle of all this and you have all the stuff going on, whether it's the social media stuff and the filming stuff and the coming up with the new content and new ideas and then managing the fact that you have a hundred fucking people working for- Well, we haven't even gotten into the side companies or the side channels either.
00:46:41.000No, the Beast Burgers and all that jazz.
00:46:51.000Oh, so you order it online and then they deliver it?
00:46:54.000Yeah, so like, let's say you own a mom-and-pop restaurant.
00:46:57.000You literally just sign up, go through the course, you learn how to make all the stuff on a menu, and you just order our ingredients and our packaging, and then you just flick it on on Uber Eats, DoorDash, Grubhub, and you can start taking orders, and we let you keep a majority of the revenue.
00:47:09.000Basically, it's a win-win for restaurants.
00:47:11.000Especially when COVID first hit, it was huge for a lot of restaurants because I was pushing it really hard back then.
00:47:16.000And some restaurants, you were literally laying off people.
00:47:19.000And then they started serving Beast Burger.
00:47:21.000And some of them doing like 10 grand a week.
00:48:38.000It's just basically like only four ingredients.
00:48:40.000Just a slightly healthier version of a chocolate bar.
00:48:42.000Problem is if you make things too healthy, which is what I've found with my restaurant, is that I would love to wean people off like super unhealthy stuff.
00:48:48.000But if you, like we did lettuce wrap where you just replace the bun with lettuce, no one orders it.
00:48:53.000If you go like too extreme on the healthy side, just no one cares.
00:48:56.000So it's like I found like the best spot is just to make things like 20% healthier and then people still order it.
00:49:25.000Bro, they put chocolate on ants, and people eat it.
00:49:29.000I mean, everything with chocolate is good.
00:49:31.000Well, and so our big marketing stunt for this, because everything I do, it's got to have it be a spectacle, is 10 random people are going to get flown down to compete for a chocolate factory in a video.
00:49:41.000So we're still working on building the chocolate factory.
00:49:44.000That's what I was doing yesterday before I flew out here.
00:49:45.000So when you say a chocolate factory, is it going to be a real place that makes chocolate?
00:49:49.000No, it's going to be kind of like the Willy Wonka one where it's like decked out.
00:49:53.000Most people I feel like are just going to take the money instead.
00:49:55.000They can keep the chocolate factory or I'll just give them like half a million dollars.
00:49:59.00099% of people I feel like would rather just take the money.
00:50:01.000Yeah, because then you'd have to sell the chocolate factory.
00:50:04.000Because in Willy Wonka it's not like it was a chocolate factory.
00:50:07.000It was like, you know, they had the chocolate river and all that.
00:50:09.000So that's what we're trying to figure out right now.
00:50:11.000We're literally building a chocolate river and I'm trying to figure out how do you keep chocolate flowing and from going bad and being fucking disgusting and shit like that.
00:50:18.000So you said you're trying to make your chocolate bars healthier.
00:50:21.000Do you use, like, stevia for sweeteners, or is it just all sugar?
00:50:25.000I mean, honestly, I'm still educating myself in this stuff, so I'd rather not go in-depth, because you could probably run circles around me on this type of stuff.
00:50:57.000There must be something I'm not clicking somewhere.
00:51:00.000Here, if you want to just search for it and then pull it up once you find it.
00:51:05.000So, other than that, are there other businesses you have that are like sidebands?
00:51:09.000Yeah, so the dub channels I showed you, we're building a dub studio in Mexico and we're building dub studios across the world and we're actually doing that for other creators as well.
00:51:18.000So to dub foreign languages onto English videos?
00:51:21.000Yeah, so if you were a YouTuber and you wanted your videos in a bunch of other languages, just come to us.
00:51:26.000We'll start up the channels, we'll translate the thumbnails, translate the content, do it all for you.
00:51:30.000So you have like a whole business set up in Mexico?
00:53:00.000So when you're going to South Africa, what did you do in South Africa?
00:53:05.000Well, we just flew to South Africa as a stop to Antarctica, but annoyingly, when we were about to get on the plane to go to Antarctica, because we were going to spend 50 hours in Antarctica, we were going to climb a mountain that's never been climbed before in Antarctica, do all this cool shit.
00:53:20.000The group that went before us gave the group in Antarctica COVID, everyone there COVID. So they had to leave.
00:53:27.000And so there's no one there to clear the ice runway for us to land.
00:53:29.000So we went to South Africa and literally just flew back because we couldn't go to Antarctica.
00:54:07.000And so it's like, it's also opportunity cost because we could have been filming a video that would have been uploaded, which that's why I haven't uploaded in a month because that fell through.
00:54:15.000And so it's like, not only did that fall apart, but it's like the opportunity cost.
00:55:12.000He took a photo of the people in front of him that were trying to get up to this mountain, the top of Everest.
00:55:18.000Yeah, that's a weird one because it's so...
00:55:21.000It used to be this thing where it's like, you know, you would go to this far off land and you would climb this rugged mountain and there was no one out there and it was so hard to do.
00:56:07.000When you watch videos of him do it, and he's just so kind of calm and chill about it, and he's very, in the nicest way, like almost innocent and childlike in the way he talks, like his eyebrows are...
00:56:55.000I mean, like, bro, if someone was like a billion dollars to do this and climb to the top of the mountain and gave me five years to train, I would say fuck no.
00:57:50.000But the Antarctica thing, when you said you're going to climb a mountain that's never been climbed before, I'm like, yikes.
00:57:55.000So do you run the risk of, as you continue to do these things and you keep pushing the envelope and making more and more exciting content, Do you ever think like, because let me tell you something.
00:58:06.000One of the things that happened with Fear Factor is we did Fear Factor for six years and then we came back and did it for a final season in 2011 and they were pushing it way too far.
00:58:41.000Because it's like, you know, it's a lot of physical contact and stuff, but there was moments, like there was one where they had a guy, different people, there was a helicopter with a bungee cord, and you were attached to the side of this cliff with a tree, and you're trying to unlock yourself, and when you do unlock yourself,
00:58:58.000the bungee cord pulls you, snaps you out over a canyon, and you're attached to a fucking helicopter dangling over this canyon.
00:59:06.000I'm like, what if something breaks, man?
00:59:13.000So these people would unlock this thing, and the moment they unlocked it, and then their partner is climbing on a ladder that's below the helicopter, and the moment they unlock themselves from the tree, the bungee cord yanks them.
00:59:42.000So my point is, do you worry that as you continue to innovate and come up with new ideas, that eventually they're going to get a little dangerous?
00:59:51.000No, because, A, whenever we do stuff, we always have experts, obviously.
01:06:13.000That's one thing I've never struggled with.
01:06:14.000If I don't think something's good and the best we can do and a revolutionary audience will love it, I have no problem killing a video, even if we spent a million dollars on it.
01:06:22.000I think that's probably one of the main reasons for your success, other than your obsession and your dedication and discipline, is that you don't have to answer to anybody.
01:06:33.000I don't know how many people could do what you do.
01:06:38.000To get to your position is very unique, and one of the beautiful things about something like YouTube is that you can get there.
01:06:43.000Because other than this, like, if you worked for, you know, if this was a show on NBC or something like that, you would have to run this by so many people.
01:07:00.000They'd want to standardize things, so it's replicable, and that's how you kill innovation.
01:07:04.000Yeah, and then they would also say, like, what do you think about us doing another show similar to yours, maybe one of your friends hosting, and they would try to do branch-offs, yeah.
01:07:16.000It's funny you bring it up, because that's the world you came from.
01:07:18.000I get that vibe sometimes when we work with production crews, and I kind of see a little bit of that world, how it's a lot more standardized.
01:07:25.000When you work with production crews, do they come up with ideas?
01:08:05.000Actually, what we do is, and this is probably one of the smartest things we've done, is we have multiple different teams that we're working on building out, so they rotate videos.
01:08:14.000Team A will do, hypothetically, Antarctica, and then Team B isn't on the Antarctica video and they're working on the next video, and then while I'm filming with Team B, Team A is working on their video, so they rotate.
01:08:25.000I'm trying to build out full, fully-fledged production teams, creative teams, editing teams, all super independent.
01:08:30.000So then I can do a video a month and each team is only responsible for one video.
01:08:33.000Which that's plenty of time to get a video done and you have down time in between your videos and stuff like that.
01:08:39.000Instead of most YouTubers, it's just one team and they're trying to have them do it all, which just honestly isn't sustainable.
01:08:45.000Yeah, well, it seems like when you're looking at this business that you've built, it's so large.
01:08:51.000There's no way you could just have one team.
01:09:32.000It's usually people who copy tons of other YouTubers, and they do one thing original, and then some other people take it, and they just throw a hissy fit.
01:09:37.000Well, it's like they probably get attention from throwing the hissy fit, too.
01:09:41.000Whenever we do something, usually thousands or at least hundreds of other people do it.
01:09:55.000I saw some really bitchy take on your Squid Game thing, copying other people's content, that he's profiting off of copying other people's content.
01:12:09.000There's actually not a lot of big cities, a lot of little cities.
01:12:12.000So we actually have like in our city, we have the 14th largest hospital in America, even though we're like a tiny city, because there's a bunch of small communities around.
01:12:19.000It makes sense to have people come from these little communities to a big hospital instead of building a bunch of little ones.
01:12:23.000And so we kind of the same model with our food pantry, where instead of You know, supporting a big city, which most big cities already have food pantries there.
01:12:31.000There's all these little communities that weren't big enough where people would actually give a fuck or help them because it just, you know, doesn't make sense.
01:12:49.000And then the people in need will do a food drive and basically give them three different boxes of food, a box of dairy products, pantry, and vegetables.
01:12:56.000And then we come back two weeks later and give them food.
01:12:58.000So basically, they can just live off the food we supply them.
01:13:01.000And we do that to a bunch of little communities.
01:13:03.000And we just crossed one year of operation, and we were able to give away over a million meals in our first year.
01:13:28.000We actually invested in, we got a really nice fridge too, which most food pantries don't have, so we can store a lot of cold goods like vegetables and dairy products.
01:13:36.000Also, some of these places, the food pantries went under, and so we come in and we take over for the old food pantries, and people love when we do, because you go from a box of, I don't want a dumpster on them, but average stuff, to now you're getting fucking milk and dairy and yogurt and also all these vegetables.
01:14:41.000Your first food drive is not as many people, but word spreads as you do them, and you consistently show up at the same time every second week, and people just come and come, and eventually hundreds of families come.
01:15:16.000So like I said, it's the distributions we do with the other food.
01:15:20.000So essentially, I want to grow this channel really big, get it where it's pulling millions of dollars a month in revenue, and do tons of brand deals and stuff like that, and then just basically use that money to buy food and feed as many people as we can.
01:15:50.000I don't remember the number, but we had a few thousand left over that we then went to other food pantries and we gave to them to give to their communities.
01:16:42.000And, like, how does one procure 10,000 turkeys?
01:16:46.000Well, that one, again, this is why the beauty of Beast Fantasy, that was a sponsored video by Gineo, which is a company that sells turkeys, and so we got them to give us 10,000 turkeys plus money to feed people for free in exchange for a shout-out in the video.
01:17:12.000And the more you do it, the more people come.
01:17:14.000And then we just guesstimate the numbers and average it out and usually bring a little extra just in case more people come this week than others.
01:17:50.000But it's so unusual that someone is so selfless, and then that you have the vision to just, I'm not trying to make money, I'm just trying to grow the company.
01:17:58.000Well, in that particular one, I'd be fucked if I didn't have Darren.
01:18:01.000He's, like, just a lunatic, and he's literally one of the smartest people I've ever met.
01:18:04.000And the fact that he has such a philanthropic heart, like, the dude could probably make, like, five, ten million dollars a year working in a normal business, but he dedicates his life to charity.
01:18:12.000I don't understand it, but I love him.
01:18:14.000Well, obviously it means something to them.
01:18:18.000And so this charity that you do with the food bank, how many employees are involved in that?
01:18:24.000He would know better, because I'm not in the weeds.
01:18:27.000Because this is what you have to think about strategically.
01:18:30.000The most optimal, like, you know, in a perfect world I could be on the front lines, going to the food drive, getting my food, but the most valuable use of my time is to make videos to generate revenue to buy food, right?
01:18:39.000So I'm more doing high-level things like figuring out what's the next viral stunt for the charity so we can do a brand deal and get a couple hundred grand in and stuff like that.
01:18:45.000I'm not really in the weeds of, like, how are we going to do this food distribution tomorrow or, like, this shipment's late, so blah, blah, this.
01:20:25.000Actually we recreated Squid Game in Minecraft as well.
01:20:29.000And so, you know, usually on Mondays I film for gaming, on Tuesdays I film for Reacts, and then I do World once we're uploading again, Wednesday through Fridays I film on the main channel, and then Saturdays when I do Beast Burger, Feastables, and like all my side businesses I take calls, and then I try not to work on Sunday.
01:20:45.000How much energy do you have to do this?
01:21:48.000Also, well the thing too is like, so these channels, like this channel specifically doesn't cost a lot of money to run.
01:21:55.000So this is like Mostly just pure profit, which is what I ran into as my main channel because I kept taking the videos bigger and bigger and bigger.
01:22:02.000They did get a point where they weren't really profitable.
01:22:27.000We did a video where we sold houses for a dollar.
01:22:33.000Usually it's like I think things are going to cost less than they do, but it ended up costing over a million dollars and it probably only made like 600 grand.
01:22:39.000So that was like a $400,000 L. I take Ls like that all the time, but that's why I have these other things so I can afford to.
01:22:46.000So I don't really care if a main channel video makes money or not.
01:22:49.000It's just like, in general, does everything at least semi-supplement it so I can.
01:23:47.000I mean, the question now is, like, can we keep it going?
01:23:49.000Because, like, last year we were the highest earning YouTube channel in the world and the most subscribed to YouTube channel in the world, which is great.
01:24:10.000I sort of asked you this before, but when you think of your future, do you have an idea in your head of where you would like all this to go to?
01:24:19.000Because it seems like the world's your oyster.
01:24:22.000You could kind of keep going and do whatever you want.
01:24:27.000Yeah, I mean, I do in a way see it a little bit as like Elon's PayPal.
01:24:31.000Like, you know, maybe when I'm 30 and if I'm not doing YouTube anymore, I'd take the money and move on to the next business like Tesla, SpaceX and stuff like that.
01:24:41.000I mean, right now I've spent up to this point my entire life hyper obsessing over how to go viral, YouTube, YouTube, YouTube, YouTube, making videos, how to go viral.
01:25:20.000So, like, why would I not want to be the biggest YouTuber on the platform?
01:25:23.000Like, why do I need to do anything else?
01:25:25.000Like, I just want to keep growing, be at the top, and I think the platform's just going to get bigger with time.
01:25:30.000But as you do more and more of these Squid Games type things, do you see yourself putting more and more time into production and more and more time to bigger it?
01:25:38.000Because it seems like you want to ramp things up.
01:25:40.000With each one, you want to make it grander than the one before.
01:26:20.000That laser-like focus, cocaine-like addiction could have been on painting bowling balls or something fucking dumb.
01:26:27.000So I'm just grateful it was like at a young age it was something like this that has infinite upside and you can just I can just obsess and I can obsess forever you know?
01:26:35.000Before YouTube was there another thing that you concentrated on with that kind of hyper focus?
01:26:58.000Yeah, most people get it when they're around 15 to 20. I mean, I guess you're born with the genetics thing, but I guess the inflammation doesn't occur until that age.
01:27:09.000Go into the bathroom like 10 times a day.
01:27:11.000And so I was a little obsessed with baseball.
01:27:14.000I literally was playing like two or three hours a day.
01:27:17.000There was a period where I actually kind of quit YouTube when I was like 13, 14, so I could just really focus on baseball.
01:27:23.000But then once I got that, which was probably a blessing, I was like, fuck it.
01:28:40.000I'm going to be honest, I've never fully understood it.
01:28:42.000It's something about my intestines where the lining of it, the immune system attacks it, so my intestines are super inflamed, and so if it's not in remission, I basically just can't digest food because it's so inflamed, food just passes through and you just shit it out.
01:29:07.000Ulcerative colitis is a little bit more extreme version of Crohn's, so thankfully I got a little bit of the dulled down version.
01:29:12.000But yeah, like sometimes I'll flare up and then I'm just like, I'm dead.
01:29:17.000I just lay in bed all day and I can't really do anything.
01:29:20.000Is there any medication that you can take that improves it?
01:29:23.000Yeah, so I'm on what's called Remicade, and so every eight weeks they just do an IV with a huge bag, which essentially suppresses my immune system.
01:29:29.000So that's why I get sick very easily, because the answer to my immune system attacking itself is just to fucking nuke my immune system.
01:31:28.000Yeah, but I know people who have gotten it and they're just like, they're like, when they went from being tired and miserable and all that, and then they get that surgery and they feel like a normal human.
01:31:58.000Because I was wondering if like stem cells or something along those lines.
01:32:02.000I remember, because I've talked to them a long time, I just looked it up.
01:32:05.000I've seen when CBD was getting big, there were some talks that it could help people, but I just checked and there was a study that said there wasn't anything conclusive on that.
01:33:23.000Now, when you look back at all the stuff that you've done and the fact that you've done all this while you're dealing with an autoimmune disease, that's a giant inspiration to other people that are struggling.
01:33:44.000I mean, obviously you've been wildly successful in your young life, but you have a happy attitude towards things, and I think that also is very inspirational to people.
01:33:54.000I mean, I wish if I had thought about this, I could probably have some, like, badass quote, but, I mean, the gist is, like, you know, if it's Crohn's, like, sitting there mourning over it, or, you know, all day, like, that doesn't do anything.
01:34:06.000Like, if it's something that you can't, it's out of your control, like, worrying about it's just, it quite literally is a waste of time, you know?
01:35:09.000And what kind of advice are you giving someone like that that makes such an exponential change in the amount of interactions he had?
01:35:17.000The biggest thing is, it's much easier, as weird as this sounds, it's much easier to get 5 million views on one video than 100,000 views on 50 videos.
01:36:27.000Your homepage is curated the best videos possible.
01:36:31.000And so it's really just making these videos really, really good, helping them build out a little bit of a team, like an editor.
01:36:37.000If you're doing five jobs, then you can only put 20% of your time to each.
01:36:40.000Well, if you hire an editor, he can put 100% of his time into that.
01:36:43.000So even if he's like 20% worse than you, he's still going to do a way better job just because that's where all his time is going and he's able to obsess over it.
01:36:50.000You can't spend 10 hours a day editing, but he can.
01:36:53.000Have you always had this logical, analytical approach to things like this?
01:38:10.000Because some people know who he is, and then they're going to be like, oh, you're really successful because of Mr. V's, which I don't like.
01:40:05.000So, like, you just get a satisfaction out of watching people improve and grow and knowing that you do really have a very comprehensive understanding of how this business works.
01:40:30.000It's like, if you did the same thing every day for 10 years, how do you talk about anything else?
01:40:33.000But it's just amazing that it's still an obsession of yours.
01:40:36.000Even though you're number one, even though you just keep being more and more wildly successful, it seems like, if I'm guessing, you're more obsessed now than ever.
01:40:46.000Yeah, if you took it away from me, I don't know what I would do.
01:44:25.000We could have made it look a little more real.
01:44:27.000And then he had certain parts that were a little stretched out and could have been a little quicker.
01:44:31.000And then also, he was like, this is something I suck at, because with YouTube, you're trying to hook people and keep them engaged, especially when you're in the tens of millions of views.
01:44:39.000But part of the problem of moving so quick is sometimes you don't get as much depth in the person, because depth can be portrayed as boring.
01:44:45.000So it's a constant balancing act of depth, but also keep moving quickly.
01:44:49.000And so he was like, there wasn't much depth with the bounty hunter.
01:44:56.000In an ideal world, but again, it's not scripted, but in an ideal world, while he's doing action, because action's interesting, he gives death.
01:45:02.000Like, if you're just driving, and you're telling the life story, that's fucking boring.
01:45:05.000But if you're running after me, and somehow, I don't know if this makes sense, maybe a life story's not the right thing, and you tell it, while action's gone, now it's interesting, and I can kind of include it?
01:46:15.000There has to be a possibility at all time that he could catch me or it's a boring video.
01:46:21.000And so that means like at any point like the video could fuck up and then we just fucking everything's to shit all that work all that effort is just out the fucking window.
01:46:35.000I'd just eat the hundred grand, you know, but like renting all this stuff, I mean, it would probably be like a quarter million dollar L because just everything's so expensive.
01:47:22.000Like, that video is completely different than the video where we put 50 people in a circle, which is different than where people competed for an island, you know?
01:47:28.000Right, which is why, like, a production company would have a problem with it, because it's not a formula that you could just recreate.
01:47:33.000That's why I'm still not consistently uploading, you know, because then you have shit like the Antarctica thing happened or this thing happened.
01:47:46.000Well, actually right now, once, because Antarctica fell through.
01:47:49.000But ideally, we're going to get back up to starting this month twice, and then as we build up the other teams, hopefully by the end of the year, we're doing it every single week.
01:47:55.000That's what I want in an ideal world every week.
01:48:09.000Then I'm spending like ungodly amounts of money, ungodly amounts of people.
01:48:13.000I mean that's – I'm going to also be filming probably like 90 percent of my waking hours.
01:48:16.000It would be like crazy – or working hours, which is what I eventually want to ramp up to because like I said, I don't spend most of my time filming.
01:48:24.000I spend most of my time working on videos.
01:48:25.000But in an ideal world, I spend most of my working hours filming because that's the only thing in the world I can do and no one else can't.
01:48:48.000I have a guy named Tyler who fucking crushes it, and I'd say out of anyone in the world, he understands how to write content better than anyone.
01:48:54.000Any YouTuber could hire him, and he would just instantly probably triple their retention.
01:49:13.000Because then you could really get crazy as the technology evolves, too, right?
01:49:16.000Yeah, but we can't be cringed with it.
01:49:17.000When I use CG, it's not like I'm trying to hide that it's CG. Right, right.
01:49:22.000Because we're still like, at the end of the day, we are a YouTube channel, and it's my channel, and so I don't want it to make it feel like Hollywood, you know what I mean?
01:49:33.000There's never going to be a world where I'm just filming in front of a green screen, but if I have something cool and I just want to extend it, that's kind of where I see CG useful, if that makes any sense.
01:49:56.000So like Facebook is usually just our videos just shortened a little bit because their attention spans are a little bit shorter and we just make them vertical and put them over there.
01:50:03.000I'm just fascinated by where augmented and virtual reality go and where it's going to take us in terms of, you know, most people, it's a big commitment to put the goggles on and to hold the controllers and to stand in a room.
01:50:19.000And the engagement that those like VR, whether it's Oculus or what have you, that they have in comparison to like people playing with their phones, like people going on social media.
01:51:03.000This virtual reality thing, there's a lot of people that are dismissing it and a lot of people think, but when I see Zuckerberg put so much emphasis on this and the fact that he's even changing the name of his company to Meta, and I see these commercials that they're doing with people staring into these art pieces that start dancing and moving,
01:51:38.000It's hard to say because you're right.
01:51:39.000Technology advances so much more rapidly.
01:51:41.000I do believe within my lifetime I will be able to put on a full suit and just lay down and play like in virtual reality.
01:51:49.000Maybe when I'm like 60, 70. And like play an actual game, have sensors hooked up, actually feel shit and just, you know, maybe with like Neuralink or some shit and control it with my mind and actually feel like I'm in a different world.
01:51:59.000But it's weird because my gut's like, ah, that shit's like 20, 30 years away.
01:52:03.000But in reality, like in 10 years, the VR is going to be more advanced than we could ever imagine.
01:54:06.000And my thought is, like, this is Pong.
01:54:13.000It's really fun, it's really exciting, but it's going to come a time where as this technology continues to evolve and they continue to have new innovation, it'll be indistinguishable from a real experience.
01:54:32.000If I dedicated my life, I could probably figure it out, but yeah.
01:54:35.000My thing is, I'm wondering if it's going to come to a point in time where your show is going to exist in a virtual reality world, where someone could not just watch it, but actually be in it and be a part of it.
01:54:49.000Well, I mean, obviously, if virtual reality has mass adoption, of course.
01:54:52.000It's really just when the tech gets here.
01:54:54.000If everyone had a VR headset in their house, you probably would go to concerts in there, too.
01:55:01.000How good is the haptic feedback suits now?
01:55:04.000I'm trying to look at what they were showing at CES and see if anybody said, you've got to try this, one of those kinds of things.
01:55:10.000I know they have things that affect your hands.
01:55:12.000It seems like the best thing they showed were maybe some gloves, and they sound very expensive, and I can't tell that, like they said they were turning knobs, so I don't know how good that feels to make it seem like you're actually turning a knob or not.
01:55:57.000You're swinging your arms around and another thing that's really great with the Oculus, there's a boxing game that you play.
01:56:04.000So you got this, because the way Oculus is set up, the one we had back at our Woodland Hill studio, it's like just an iPad was controlling it, right?
01:56:12.000So you have the headphones and they're pretty light and then you have these things on and you're in this virtual ring and you're boxing this character.
01:56:20.000And every time he hits you, you see a flash of light in front of your eyes.
01:56:23.000And so you're basically shadowboxing, but you're reacting to a thing, so you're moving, and you get a good cardio workout.
01:56:32.000You can actually get a really solid workout.
01:57:01.000Yeah, or it just gives me like a giant headache.
01:57:03.000I wonder if there's something they can give you for that, like a Dramamine or one of them little things they put on your wrist, like if you got on a boat, you know?
01:57:11.000I know you didn't get into Ready Player 2, but that is part of what happens in the fictionalized world where the thing got too real and they've upgraded it.
01:57:20.000If you spend more than 12 hours in it, your brain starts disconnecting and you can die.
01:57:45.000It's very complicated because the first steps about it are really undeniably important because the first steps about it are reconnecting people's spinal cords.
01:57:56.000The first way that it's going to be implemented is people that have severe spinal cord injuries.
01:58:02.000So someone who has an injury like that, they'll be able to do something where this So this implant interfaces with the brain and somehow or another can control the nerves or activate parts of the body.
01:58:17.000I'm not exactly sure how that's done, but it's going to allow people that are paralyzed to walk.
01:58:25.000There's no ethical questions about that.
01:58:27.000The ethical questions arise when you realize that you're going to be putting this quarter-sized hole in someone's head, and then you're going to put wires into their brain, and it's going to change the way human beings interface with information.
01:58:42.000He said it's basically going to increase—this is his words—it's going to increase your bandwidth, your access to information, and you're going to be able to talk without words.
01:58:52.000Yeah, I remember he said that on your podcast as well.
01:58:55.000If anybody else said that, I'd be like, shut up, bitch.
01:58:57.000But when Elon says it, I was like, shit.
01:59:00.000He probably, I mean, he's not saying that wildly.
01:59:04.000He's probably got a plan, you know, for coming up with something.
01:59:08.000See, now you're making me wish I was more educated in this, because that's so fascinating.
01:59:11.000There's so much cool shit going on, like VR, that, that I just, fuck.
01:59:15.000There's so much cool shit, and my feeling is the way the internet sort of just changed life.
01:59:22.000If you go back to pre-internet versus post-internet, there's a lot of problems that people have with the internet, right?
01:59:28.000There's cyberbullying, there's a lot of people that are disconnected, a lot of kids in particular have a real problem with Social media FOMO and just with people bullying them and them comparing their lives to other people.
01:59:41.000With girls in particular, there's a lot of serious psychological issues that have come with social media.
02:00:20.000It went from, you know, 1990, almost no one had a phone, a cell phone, to 2020, everyone has a cell phone, to what is it 20 years from now?
02:00:44.000I don't think it's going to be that far away, man.
02:00:46.000I think once it gets going, the problem is, and the way Elon was explaining it, you're going to have such a competitive advantage if you have this chip, if you have this Neuralink, if you have this setup.
02:00:57.000You could just get an infinite loan out to get it put in.
02:00:59.000Well, not just that, but the, you know, we've always had this problem where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
02:01:05.000Like, what happens, you know, from the haves and the have-nots, once the haves have a fucking neural link, and now they have literally, like, an infinity pill that they're taking that gets, what is that movie with Bradley Cooper?
02:01:20.000We got a limitless pill they're taking.
02:01:21.000And then out of nowhere, they have incredible access to information.
02:01:26.000Imagine literally learning everything I know, everything I've spent my whole life studying, just downloading your brain in a second.
02:01:32.000And what if it gives you an energy, too?
02:01:35.000Because you think about what are people taking when they're taking stimulants like Adderall.
02:01:38.000Well, they're taking something that stimulates their brain.
02:01:41.000I mean, it stimulates your central nervous system, but it gives your brain more information, or more energy, rather.
02:01:47.000But if you could do that electronically, where you're not juicing yourself up with amphetamines, but instead you're enhancing all the capabilities of your entire neural network.
02:02:12.000What people are worried about is a sentient artificial intelligence that's far superior to ours that realizes that we're not just outdated, but we're kind of dangerous and we ruin the environment and just decides to get rid of us and take over as the new life form.
02:02:26.000You accidentally write something that's like, help us solve climate change.
02:02:29.000And it's like, the solution is just kill the humans.
02:02:30.000Well, Marshall McLuhan wrote about this in the 1960s.
02:02:33.000He said, human beings are the sex organs of the machine world.
02:02:46.000So once the human being creates a machine that's better than it, why would the machine keep it around?
02:02:55.000If they create an artificial life form that can make better...
02:02:58.000We're incredibly advanced compared to most of the creatures on this planet.
02:03:04.000But compared to what's possible, I mean, godlike powers, infinite powers are possible if you just scale up from what we can do now with nuclear power and video and 5G that you could send to Australia in a second.
02:03:24.000Well, if it eventually goes to an artificial creature, an artificial being that someone constructs, and it's not biologically based at all, so it doesn't have any of the pitfalls that we have in terms of our reliance on emotions and fear and our desire to breed and ego and all these different weird things that people have.
02:04:13.000I'm just talking and I get to talk to smart people.
02:04:15.000But the thing that I'm worried is it's going to sneak up on us.
02:04:20.000And I think one of the ways that we avoid artificial intelligence, I mean, if you look at the possible pitfalls, like how does this play out?
02:04:29.000One of the ways we avoid being obsolete is we integrate.
02:05:09.000But my position on that has always been we don't have to replicate the human mind.
02:05:12.000We just have to replicate its ability.
02:05:15.000The idea that you have to replicate the human mind, well, you have to understand the human mind and just the neurons and all the cells working together and the human neurochemistry and the neurotransmitters.
02:05:26.000There's so much shit going on in the brain constantly.
02:05:28.000It's an intensely complex process, but They don't have to recreate that.
02:05:33.000Just make a new thing, rather, that does what the brain does, but does it better.
02:05:39.000And we've essentially started doing that with artificial intelligence computers.
02:05:43.000I mean, look what we've done with chess, right?
02:05:46.000It used to be they thought the one thing that shows that human beings are more intelligent than computers is that computers can't beat them at chess.
02:05:54.000Well, now they beat people at chess quick.
02:05:57.000Not only do they beat people at chess, now computers get creative and they come up with their own moves.
02:07:50.000Oscar Isaac and then Domhanal Gleesom is the computer coder that this guy hires.
02:07:59.000So Oscar, the Nathan guy, is this super genius who lives in this very remote location and he's been secretly working on an advanced, super complex version of artificial life.
02:08:12.000And he has literal artificial humans in this compound that you realize are not human along the way.
02:08:33.000Alan Turing was a guy who devised a test to find out...
02:08:40.000The idea was if you could interact with a computer and not know that it's a computer, then it would pass this test.
02:08:49.000If you could interact with something and it would behave and think and communicate like a human being.
02:08:54.000And so he was kind of brought on, the computer coder, to interact with this woman who was clearly a robot.
02:09:02.000But she was so seductive and beautiful and the way she communicated was so enticing that it was essentially passing the Turing test even though he knew.
02:09:14.000And Alan Turing, which is really crazy, Alan Turing existed, he was born in a barbaric time.
02:09:22.000I believe he lived in the UK and he was gay and he was tried and prosecuted for being gay and they made him take drugs that I think they made him take like a chemical circumcision drug,
02:09:39.000not circumcision, castration drug, a chemical castration drug that killed his libido and he wound up committing suicide.
02:09:46.000So one of the leading fathers in concepts of artificial intelligence was killed by the stupidity and ignorance of human beings, which is really wild.
02:10:01.0001952, he's convicted of gross indecency with another man and was forced to undergo so-called organotherapy, chemical castration.
02:10:11.000It's crazy that that wasn't even 100 years ago.
02:10:29.000And it's so heartbreaking because it shows you the stupidity and the ignorance and the prejudice of human beings destroying a guy who had this vision to understand what possibly can be coming down the line in terms of artificial life.
02:10:56.000I mean, who knows how much he would have advanced his ideas and concepts, but...
02:11:00.000Yeah, with all that stuff, I wish I had more value to add, but it's like, honestly, this is like a lot of what you just said, probably like the first time I've ever thought of half that shit.
02:12:01.000But growing up, since YouTube's what I do, I should consume YouTube.
02:12:06.000So if I consumed movies or other stuff, I always kind of saw it as a waste of time unless it was culture, so then it would make sense to watch it.
02:12:13.000It makes sense to watch Spider-Man, so I know what's going on in the world.
02:12:16.000But for the most part, for me, what's optimal is to just watch a bunch of YouTube so that I better understand what's trending and how to make better videos and pacing and stuff like that.
02:13:14.000I think this, from what I even heard, this is almost like a real action version of that animated one.
02:13:19.000Like there's verses that combine and I don't know how visually comparable it was.
02:13:25.000I don't think it's in 3D like the other one was.
02:13:26.000Well, the Enter the Spider-Verse, the fact that it's animated, you could just do so much more with animation because you can get away with stuff.
02:15:00.000Go to the movie, Jamie, because the movie is good.
02:15:03.000These anime dorks need to get out of the fucking house.
02:15:06.000I mean, you should try and watch a couple episodes of the anime and see it's like, it's the pacing in the anime, it's one of my favorite shows, is really good.
02:15:15.000And just the, I don't know, I feel like it just moves so much better.
02:15:19.000The movie kind of made me cringe at a few parts.
02:16:42.000Or to people of all ages, to be honest.
02:16:44.000I mean, I don't know mass data, but just even the people I see, like everyone recently, even like a lot of YouTubers talking about to their audience, like, anime's exploding.
02:19:14.000But that's what's interesting, because when I was at a younger age, I didn't.
02:19:18.000It confused me, and I felt like a weirdo.
02:19:20.000And I say that for people who are hyper-obsessed listening, because there are people listening to this who are probably a little bit younger, that are hyper-obsessed over certain things and probably feel like that.
02:19:30.000I just surround myself with YouTubers and people that care about YouTube, so I don't have that problem.
02:22:11.000And so even if I was making minimum wage doing YouTube, I'd still be way happier than if I was making like three or four times minimum wage doing something else.
02:22:19.000And so you also kind of have to factor that in.
02:22:20.000Whereas if you do what you love, you don't necessarily need as much.
02:22:23.000I think with a lot of people the problem is external pressures like obviously your mom wanted you to go to college and you know my parents didn't want me to do a lot of the things that I did but luckily for both of us we didn't listen and I think that's the thing it's like yeah but how do you transfer that to a child how do you tell a young kid coming up you've got to learn how to be stubborn and you got to learn how to know when you're right And you've got to learn how to chase down the things that actually excite you.
02:22:50.000I mean, the flip side, we took some big risks.
02:22:53.000I know, you know, I have a friend who actually, I support, similar thing, all in, $50,000 in debt, channel didn't take off, whatever.
02:23:13.000I don't know where the line is where we're not giving people advice that could potentially fuck him over.
02:23:18.000Because obviously, even though you might be less happy, you have a higher chance of not being homeless by being a sheep and doing that stuff.
02:23:24.000There's a thing like that with comedians too, right?
02:23:26.000Because I have friends that I thought were really funny.
02:23:30.000And, you know, going back a decade ago, like I remember hanging out with them at the Comedy Store going, 10 years from now, this person's gonna be killing it.
02:23:37.00010 years from now, they're no better off than they were then.
02:23:48.000But for whatever it is, they've never been able to get that real traction and then just build on it with the most...
02:23:54.000Like, one of the things that I see with you is you have massive momentum And all this inertia that's going towards getting things done, and you keep building on it.
02:25:44.000And my point would be, like, if I knew what I knew now, like, three years ago, I mean, I'd be on half a billion subscribers or whatever.
02:25:51.000Like, my growth would have been so much more extreme.
02:25:53.000It's like, knowledge is just so OP. And, like, that's, like, I don't know, just one of my things that I just really want to drill in your fucking heads is, like, if you're in an industry where there are other experts, like, just have them teach you what they just spent the The last 20 years studying.
02:26:34.000Because, like, clearly, you've done an amazing service for these people that you helped, and they'll probably play it forward.
02:26:40.000And if they pay it forward, and then they do it for other people, like, I do that with comics.
02:26:45.000And I see other comics do the same thing, where they help other stand-ups, and mentor them, and take them on the road, and give them gigs, and give them advice, and you see it growing.
02:26:55.000And there's, like, a community that comes out of that that's also very valuable.
02:27:18.000And that environment, that feel is so hard to get because, you know, most people want to, again, with these big projects, you want to script it because scripting gets budget down, gets filmed.
02:27:28.000You can take a 50-hour shoot and reduce it to five minutes.
02:27:31.000Sorry, not five, five hours if you script it.
02:27:33.000You can also reduce your budget costs by like 60% if you script shit.
02:27:36.000And so that's why you don't see a lot of stuff like what we do because no one wants to do it authentic and just like let shit happen and, you know, things can go wrong or take way longer.
02:27:45.000They just want to script it and give you, you know, the boys lines and shit like that.
02:27:49.000But part of the things going wrong in your videos is what makes it fun.
02:27:53.000And that's why I do it the way I do it, which is, now it's more normal, but when I was growing, especially as I'm, like, bringing people from LA, like, hey, can you help me?
02:28:01.000Or other people try to help make this stuff happen.
02:29:35.000How we've gone this many years, this many videos, and they don't hate each other, and they still are friends, I don't know.
02:29:41.000I feel like I've gotten a little lucky there.
02:29:42.000They legit hang out and do stuff all the time.
02:29:45.000I think it's a little bit of trickle down from the top, too, because you're so generous and you're so friendly and you have such a good time and you do enjoy this sort of camaraderie.
02:29:57.000It always is like whoever is the head guy, it trickles down to everyone else in the environment.
02:31:04.000Because if you find what you love and you obsess over day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year for a decade, you're going to achieve some form of success.
02:31:58.000I removed the 6,000, then I put it back, and every month I'd add it back and remove it, but then I'd drop the 6,000, and it was just Mr. Beast.
02:32:06.000Wise words from Mr. Beast, ladies and gentlemen.