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00:00:31.000I mean, after the three books have come, so I was thinking you must have gotten a more recent one.
00:00:36.000Well, I found some of your stuff online, and I started watching some of your videos online, and they're very interesting and very educational.
00:00:43.000And then I said, all right, let me find out what this guy's all about.
00:02:57.000So some things from India survived, but a lot of them died off.
00:03:01.000Last year we had a very big freeze that lasted for a couple of weeks and a lot of exotic animals from other countries that people brought in.
00:03:10.000Unless they're from the northern part of India, where it's in the Himalayan region, they may survive.
00:03:15.000But South Indian animals like me won't make it in winter.
00:03:21.000So you're on this grand tour right now, you were saying.
00:03:27.000Yes, I was in… I just came from India two days ago.
00:03:31.000Then I was in New York, Tennessee, New York and here and today.
00:03:35.000This night I'm leaving for Caribbean because we are making, signing some memorandum of understanding with the CARICOM nations for the soil, safe soil movement.
00:03:48.000We have made a policy document specific for each country, depending on their latitude, soil types, economic conditions, and agricultural traditions of an individual nation.
00:03:59.000Based on this hundred and ninety-two nations, we've made soil policies.
00:04:04.000So this is something that you're very concerned about, and rightly so, that there's a problem with the topsoil in America in particular that we've been aware of for a long time where there's only like, what's the number, like 45 years worth of topsoil left if we go about practices the same way?
00:04:24.000Generally, most UN agencies are talking about something like 60 to 80 horvests, which could be somewhere between 45 to 60 years of topsoil.
00:04:36.000But it's not like it's suddenly going to get over one day.
00:05:34.000One main reason is the input cost is going up year on year because the soil fertility is going down and the input cost is going up to a point where it's no more practical to do it.
00:05:46.000There was also some sort of an issue with Monsanto, correct?
00:06:22.000See, the problem is always, we're always saying whom to hit, all right?
00:06:28.000So, this is a movement which is not against anybody because in this one thing, we can all come together as one.
00:06:36.000We may be of different nations, we may be of different racial backgrounds, religious backgrounds, caste, creed, gender, whatever, and political ideologies, whatever.
00:06:46.000But we all come from soil, live off the soil and when we die, we go back to the soil.
00:06:52.000The only question we have in our life is, will we get this that soil is the basis of our existence here, will we get this now or will we get it when we're buried?
00:07:04.000So, having said that, see, people are talking about organic farming.
00:07:08.000These are all Urban people talking about it, they've never farmed in their life.
00:07:13.000They don't know what it means to do organic farming.
00:07:15.000Right now, if the world shifts to organic farming hundred percent, let's say tomorrow morning, our food production in the world will come down to twenty to twenty-five percent of what it is right now.
00:07:27.000So that is death for most of the population.
00:07:30.000So when they're talking about organic farming, they're talking about farming with no pesticides, no herbicides?
00:07:35.000No pesticides, no fertilizer, all this.
00:08:08.000It's like you're eating good food, but if you have yourself checked up, your doctor may say, well, your calcium is a little deficient, your iron is deficient, so take these two pills.
00:08:19.000So, you took these two pills and tomorrow you felt great.
00:08:22.000Then you decided you don't have to really eat food, you can just eat a lot of these pills and you will be fine.
00:08:30.000We had rich soil, in that whatever is deficient, we put a little bit of nitrogen or phosphate or something, suddenly the crops burst out.
00:08:39.000Then we forgot that we have to put organic content.
00:08:42.000We just started putting these salts forever, and in 25 to 30 years' time, the soil becomes fallow.
00:08:50.000Yeah, there's a book I read years ago called Dead Doctors Don't Lie by a man named Dr. Joel Wallach, and it talked about mineral deficiencies from topsoils.
00:08:59.000It was a big issue, and one of the things that he brought up is that people who grow agriculture and have animals have known forever that they have to supplement the animal's diets with minerals, and that this is primarily because the food that they're getting is not minerally sufficient.
00:09:29.000See, the amount of nourishment or micronutrients that you got from a given vegetable, let's say in early 20th century, let's say 1920, And today what you're getting from the same thing is approximately 10% of that.
00:10:13.000So, people think this malnourishment, these problems and this starvation, these things will happen only to Africa or South America or somewhere.
00:10:40.000Yesterday I was in New York and I was talking to somebody there.
00:10:43.000So they're saying that some whatever volume, I don't know the volume, but some enormous amount of dust came and settled in New York City when the Dust Bowls just came up like, you know, it just blinded the whole, half the country.
00:10:58.000So People are calculating how many whatever million tons or hundreds and thousands of tons of dust or soil landed up in New York City.
00:11:07.000See, it stopped in New York City because of the tall buildings and stuff.
00:11:11.000But how many millions of tons of soil, American soil, went and landed in Atlantic Ocean?
00:11:21.000When farmers are growing these monocrop agriculture, like if they're growing corn or soy or things like that, is that part of the problems?
00:11:33.000It's not enough regenerative agriculture, not enough manure, animals grazing on the same lands?
00:11:42.000And we've gotten into this kind of thing because we are looking at soil like some industrial machine that we put in so much and we have to get so much.
00:11:53.000If you take a handful of soil, there are anywhere between seven to ten billion organisms in it, anywhere between fifty to seventy-five thousand species of organisms in it.
00:12:04.000But now with… we are plowing with machines, it plows anywhere between twelve to fourteen inches.
00:12:11.000Eighty-seven percent of the life on this planet, including you and me, come from the first twelve to fifteen inches of the soil.
00:12:18.000But we are plowing the soil twelve to fourteen inches, leaving it open to harsh sunlight and leaving it like that for months.
00:13:00.000Now, if we do it another way, if you have a bunch of different plants growing there and you leave trees for shade and all sorts, is there enough land with what they're growing on now, with the amount of food that they're growing now?
00:13:16.000Is this scalable if you have some sort of regenerative agriculture plan?
00:13:21.000We can grow much more on much less land.
00:14:27.000because I've been in California in the last month, and whatever you say, somebody comes up and says, Sadhguru, my friend has made an app, it can solve any problem.
00:14:37.000See, with technology, you may be able to improve the application.
00:15:31.000So, they dug up little bit of soil and made a vague picture of a human child and did so many things and within a few minutes the child set up a life.
00:15:41.000God said, oh, that's really impressive, but first get your own soil.
00:15:47.000Everything, whether it's a worm or an insect or a plant or a bird or an animal or human beings, we've all come from soil.
00:15:54.000There is nothing else here on this planet which is not… the source is not soil.
00:16:01.000So say if you have something that's a large monocrop like corn, it's a big one in America, and you wanted to transform the way they're growing corn and make it so that it's sustainable and that you have some sort of regenerative agriculture situation.
00:16:31.000You're a corn farmer, you don't want to grow anything else if that is so, you must put back substantial amount of organic content.
00:16:38.000Because even if you take a corn plant, which grows almost six to seven feet tall, and you're only eating the corn, you don't have animals on the farm largely.
00:16:48.000If you just… the plant part of it, if you just chop it into pieces and put it back in the soil, the soil will be very happy.
00:17:28.000Because the way the soil mechanics happen is it's a very complex and sophisticated marketplace.
00:17:36.000The plants have to capture the carbon from the atmosphere and make it into carbon sugars, and that is the currency with which it can exchange for nutrients with organisms.
00:17:48.000So even in our own stomach, you… today you know that without the gut microbiome, you cannot really digest the food that you eat without their cooperation.
00:17:57.000Though what is happening in the soil is probably a thousand, ten thousand or a million times more complex operation.
00:18:05.000Who we are right now as a life, we are just a consequence of what's happening in the soil.
00:18:11.000Even in the evolutionary process, that's how it's happened.
00:18:14.000That today, what we are right now, over sixty percent of our body is actually microorganisms.
00:18:20.000Only forty percent is our parental genetics.
00:18:37.000I know this is a controversial thing to say, but I think you're known for controversy, so what's my problem?
00:18:43.000So, I'm saying, see for example, there are certain countries which are suffering this whole coronavirus much more than the other.
00:18:54.000I don't want to make a absolute statement about this, but one thing is something we must look at is, any doctor, you don't need a top virologist, a simple doctor will tell you, if you lack vitamin A, vitamin B6, B12,
00:19:09.000D, E, and you know, foliate and iron and zinc and magnesium in your system, you will become susceptible to upper respiratory tract infections.
00:21:15.000How it comes through the complex mechanism of food and how it becomes part of our body and a simple chemical of a tablet, they are not the same thing.
00:21:25.000They will not do the same things to us.
00:21:27.000And what other consequences it has, nobody can ever estimate because there are so many other consequences in a country like United States where there is a whole choice of nourishment and a whole choice of lifestyles.
00:21:41.000You are spending nearly three and a half trillion dollars in healthcare.
00:21:45.000That is a huge statement about America's health.
00:21:49.000Well, it's very obvious if you look at most Americans.
00:21:52.000And what's really interesting is there's been some photos that people have put up recently of beaches from the 1970s.
00:21:59.000And you see these people on the beach with their shirts off and bikinis on and They look so good.
00:22:49.000You know, if there's food that has a lot of sugar in it, your body freaks out and it just wants more of it and it can't stop eating it because it's an unnatural state to have that much sugar in something that doesn't have fiber.
00:23:00.000Like if you're drinking a sugary drink.
00:24:08.000You… people may believe they will go to different types of heavens depending on their belief systems, but we all come from the same soil.
00:24:17.000Being connected with that is most essential because the body is thriving only because of its natural connection.
00:24:23.000Well, they have classes now where people are grounding, where they go outside and they take their shoes off and walk around and lay on the ground.
00:24:35.000Legitimate tree hugging, like real tree hugging.
00:24:38.000It used to be a term that we'd use to people to make fun of them, but now it's legitimate.
00:24:44.000People are hugging trees to try to get better.
00:24:46.000Grounding is like the principles of grounding.
00:24:50.000The idea is that there's some sort of a connection that you get from Mother Earth that the only way you get it is to be bare skin touching the grass and the soil and that there's actually a benefit to that.
00:25:01.000No, they're mainly talking about the electrical positive charge getting neutralized.
00:25:24.000If that doesn't happen, you're living like a lab rat all the time washing yourself up with all kinds of things that nothing can be on your hands, nothing can be on your feet.
00:25:34.000So, there is no connection with the source.
00:25:39.000And today, there is substantial scientific data to show how, you know, micronutrients or lack of micronutrients and mental illnesses are very directly connected.
00:26:28.000So, in a country where it's affluent, they're not dying for economic reasons, obviously.
00:26:34.000Not because of poverty, not because of hunger, no.
00:26:37.000Just they're not able to handle their own minds.
00:26:40.000One important aspect, it's not the only aspect, but one important aspect is lack of micronutrients that's directly connected to the type of soil that we're working upon right now and where we grow food.
00:26:52.000When we say where we grow fruit, seventy-one percent of the world's soil or world's land is under cultivation in the world.
00:27:01.000So, why I'm focusing on agricultural soil?
00:27:05.000People ask, why not… what rainforest?
00:29:46.000If you make choices where you know that the thing that you're doing, whether you're distributing a product Or whether you're causing an action that is going to be detrimental to human beings, but you cover up the data to hide the fact that it's going to be detrimental because you want to maximize your profit and you don't care about the negative impact it has on people because you're only thinking about money and you're already substantially wealthy.
00:30:14.000That, by definition, is being greedy, right?
00:30:44.000See, human experience essentially happens from within.
00:30:48.000Whether it's your joy or misery comes from within you, isn't it?
00:30:52.000Maybe somebody or something can stimulate it from outside, but still it happens within you.
00:30:58.000Joy and misery happens from within you.
00:31:01.000Pain and pleasure happens from within you.
00:31:03.000Agony and ecstasy happens from within you.
00:31:05.000Every human experience happens from within you.
00:31:08.000But in pursuit of happiness, we're turning the world upside down because this is the case of a You know, there was an old potato farmer.
00:31:19.000One day he wanted to eat apples, so he went to an apple tree.
00:31:23.000But by habit, he started digging for the apples till the tree came down on him because he's a potato farmer.
00:31:31.000So right now, human beings have become like this.
00:31:35.000They have gotten used to this, that they think by getting this, by getting that, by having one more thing and one more thing, they're going to be happy.
00:31:43.000But human experience happens from within.
00:31:46.000If you take charge of your interiority, being peaceful and happy is a natural consequence of that.
00:31:51.000But for convenience and comfort, we do things outside.
00:31:56.000To create impact, we do things outside.
00:31:58.000So this experience of if human beings were naturally joyful by their own nature, they would only do what is needed, nothing more, nothing less.
00:32:07.000But right now, they're in pursuit of happiness.
00:32:13.000Yeah, they are in pursuit of happiness, but they're also, again, in pursuit of profit because it's a number-based system, so it becomes like a game, and you get connected to corporations.
00:32:22.000When you're in a corporation, there's a diffusion of responsibility because you don't think about your own involvement and what the corporation is doing.
00:32:30.000You think about your role, what you do as a job, and then you try to maximize profit, and it's a game that people get wrapped up in.
00:32:38.000Yeah, but that is… It doesn't make them happy.
00:34:51.000So, this whole movement, where it's going means if you do not raise human consciousness, if you do not teach people how to sit here feeling absolutely blissed out within yourself by your own nature because This human mechanism is the most sophisticated chemical factory.
00:35:10.000If you are a good CEO, you would produce the chemicals that will give you fantastic experience.
00:35:18.000If you're a lousy CEO, you're giving yourself a bad experience.
00:35:22.000Now, you're buying chemicals from outside to fix that, all right?
00:35:26.000So essentially, you're a bad manager of your own system.
00:35:32.000Because your education, your society is talking about conquering the world, but never taught you anything about how to take charge of this.
00:36:16.000Let me take you back to this concept of heaven.
00:36:18.000You know, when you're talking about people in universities that you say, how many of them want to go to heaven?
00:36:23.000The problem is they don't have any evidence of heaven.
00:36:26.000And so when a lot of these young people that are atheists or agnostics, they don't want to buy into anything that they believe is connected to fairy tales or they're connected to Some sort of an ideology they believe was manufactured to control people and to keep people...
00:36:46.000But it's also because heaven is connected to religion and religion is connected to atrocities.
00:36:52.000There's a lot of people that think of religion, they think of the evils of the Catholic Church or they think of You know, what religion has justified, the horrors of history, the things that people have done in the name of religion.
00:37:05.000So a lot of younger, sophisticated, intelligent people don't want to believe in anything that there's no evidence for.
00:37:13.000So when you say, how many of you want to go to heaven, say, show me a video.
00:37:52.000We are in a heaven making a mess out of it.
00:37:54.000So right now, whether we want to fix the soil or we want to fix the human mind, we're only trying to see that you don't mess up the heaven in which we have landed.
00:38:31.000So this is a unifying factor, irrespective of one's religion, caste, creed, whatever else.
00:38:36.000So in your mind, this concept of heaven relates to like a harmony amongst yourself and the people, the living things around you, including the soil.
00:41:16.000Should it happen your way or somebody else's way?
00:41:19.000Well, I think if your way sucks, maybe you should listen to other people and maybe try their way.
00:41:26.000See, if it happened your way, would you keep yourself blissful or miserable?
00:41:30.000You would keep yourself blissful if you were wise, if you were wise and your mind was working properly, but if you have mental health issues, if you're filled with trauma, if you're poorly educated, you're starting from a deficit, a severe deficit where you don't think correctly.
00:43:11.000Your success and failure, both are accidental.
00:43:14.000So what do you say to someone, maybe they're 30 years old, and they've had this life of mistakes and regret and maybe alcoholism or gambling or some other problems, but they want to be conscious.
00:43:36.000What steps do they take to correct the journey they're on?
00:43:41.000Why is it, though human beings are not the strongest creatures on the planet compared to other species, why is it the human beings are dominating this world?
00:43:53.000Simply because of our ability to use tools, isn't it?
00:43:57.000And our intellect, our ability to manipulate our environment.
00:44:00.000Yes, but even then, if we didn't have knowledge of using tools, the buffaloes would have mowed us down, all right.
00:45:09.000Don't worry about the philosophy, don't worry about belief system, don't worry about your concept, somebody's concepts, your beliefs, somebody's beliefs.
00:45:40.000The Yisha Foundation and this inter-engineering process that we are doing around the world, in 2021, I think, I think it's 2021, Our video views are 2.2 billion.
00:48:00.000But for common people, all they want to do is they want to live peacefully, joyfully, with some sense of purpose to whatever they're doing in their lives.
00:49:36.000Dogs are actually the human version of animals.
00:49:41.000So when you say it works though, like for a person that is listening to this, that is seeking some sort of a path to a better life, what would you recommend they do first?
00:49:57.000The simplest thing they need to understand is Human experience is caused from within, not from outside.
00:50:04.000Right now, see, Somebody can abuse you, let's say.
00:51:35.000But in spite of that they're doing, if there was no pain at all, They would have pulled out their intestines and walk on the street like a handbag, all right?
00:52:29.000So it is not my words or my actions which are causing pain to you.
00:52:34.000It's your compulsive reaction which is causing that.
00:52:38.000This is a beautiful concept, but for a lot of people, they develop these patterns of behavior and thinking that are very difficult to break.
00:52:46.000So how does one come up with the practices that would allow them to consistently and continually understand this and apply this to their life?
00:52:56.000See, the patterns are formed not only in the psychological structure.
00:53:01.000The patterns are formed in the chemical structure of the body.
00:53:04.000The patterns are formed in the energy structures of the body.
00:53:07.000The patterns are formed in the karmic structures of one's system.
00:53:11.000So, the memory patterns establish themselves in every way and make you that kind of person, all right?
00:53:18.000But that that kind of person you are is something that you created unconsciously.
00:53:24.000If you can create something unconsciously, you can also create the same thing consciously, isn't it?
00:53:31.000So you can fix the same thing consciously, you mean?
00:53:34.000No, I'm saying if you create one kind of persona unconsciously, you can also create another kind of persona consciously, isn't it?
00:53:44.000Yes, you can make a conscious choice to create a healthy persona.
00:53:47.000So right now, because the patterns are so well established, it's like a rut in the street, a road, all right?
00:53:53.000If there is a deep rut in the road, even if you steer it this way, it drags you that way.
00:53:57.000So, that is what is happening in people because they have formed patterns, strong patterns.
00:54:03.000Even if they once in a way think, oh, I must give up the drink, they come off for two days and again they slip back into the same thing because there is a chemical pattern, there is a karmic pattern, there is a psychological pattern, there is a compulsiveness built into the body itself, the whole system.
00:57:51.000Should they start thinking a certain way every day about their life and the way they're responding to things and whether or not they're reacting or being conscious?
00:58:00.000Is that guy falling off the sky or is he doing yoga in your studio?
00:58:03.000He's getting abducted by a UFO. That's a flying saucer.
00:59:15.000I'm… From some other planet, this talk is also going on.
00:59:20.000But essentially, you're part of this, but you're not experiencing it that way.
00:59:26.000This is not only true with soil, this is true with the entire creation, with the cosmos itself.
00:59:32.000Today, modern science has come to this, that as you sit here, every subatomic particle in your body is actually in communication with everything else.
00:59:40.000Is this an image of cosmos that you have?
01:00:26.000I know in how many ways I can use it, but I don't know what it is.
01:00:34.000Even today, with so much scientific exploration, we still do not know one atom in its entirety.
01:00:42.000We know how to use it, we know how to break it, we know how to fuse it, we know how to make a bomb out of it, but we don't know what it is.
01:03:02.000So, my schooling went on like this and I slowly started going there only when it was absolutely necessary, otherwise I had my own excursions going.
01:03:14.000So, about eleven, twelve years ago, this school where I studied over fifty years ago, they come to me and say, Sadhguru, you must come.
01:03:22.000It is our hundred and twenty-fifth anniversary of the school.
01:06:18.000Am I going off the rocker or something?
01:06:19.000That's the only thing my skeptical mind could tell me because I was a super skeptic about everything in the universe.
01:06:25.000I had a question about everything, about the family structure, about the society, about religion, about politics, about economics, about everything.
01:07:32.000It took me time to realize people are so deeply invested in their miseries that even if you offer them the best thing, they will go round and round and round around that not getting the point because they're too deeply invested in something.
01:07:46.000They don't realize as you sit here and through your misery or joy, life is slipping away.
01:07:55.000Every heartbeat is life going away, isn't it?
01:09:09.000So I got in for the wrong reason, thinking I'll become a superhuman like him, but it is something else to me.
01:09:15.000Tell the story to people so they hear it.
01:09:18.000You know, this is an ancestral home where we are about thirty-five, thirty-six of cousin brothers and sisters who live in different cities.
01:09:27.000We all come and converge in our ancestral home for the summer vacation, usually thirty to forty-five days, max.
01:09:36.000So, it's one rollicking place, all the kids totally out of control and doing all kinds of things.
01:09:40.000The young boys, one of the things is there's a drinking water well in the backyard, which is about eight… eight feet in diameter, about hundred and fifty feet in depth.
01:09:50.000In summer months when we go there, it's at least sixty, seventy feet below the ground level, the water.
01:09:55.000So, we jump into this well, you have to go straight.
01:09:58.000If you go this way, Your brain will become a smear on the wall, actually.
01:12:19.000But headwinds are good, that's why the airplane flies, all right?
01:12:24.000It's because of that there is aerodynamics and it flies.
01:12:27.000So, if you're designed to fly, this is what is important.
01:12:31.000What yoga means is, you get yourself geometrically correct.
01:12:35.000What being geometrically correct means is, see, every physical creation in the universe has a geometry to it.
01:12:43.000If the geometry is in such a way that it has least amount of friction, then it functions at its best.
01:12:51.000When would you say, suppose you start your car engine and he said, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, would you say this is well-engineered car?
01:12:58.000You start it, you don't even know, you can't feel the engine.
01:13:01.000Then you said, this is a good car because it's… only unless you make it roar, you can't feel the engine.
01:13:08.000That means everything is going smoothly with least amount of friction.
01:13:11.000So, it is a geometric perfection which does this.
01:13:15.000So, everything that is physical in the universe needs a certain perfection of geometry to function at a certain level of competence.
01:13:24.000So this geometry, today there is something called as constructional theory they're making it, yogic sciences are deeply invested in this.
01:13:32.000That is, how an atom is made, how an amoeba is made, a single-celled organism is made, how you are made, how the universe is made, the fundamental design is not different.
01:19:03.000So, the twisting, turning, holding the breath, doing this, doing that, all these things are to loosen up the body in such a way that your physical body and your sensory body are not stuck to each other.
01:19:52.000Because once you experience somebody or something as a part of yourself, nobody has to teach you any morality, be good, don't harm them, don't do this, don't do that.
01:20:03.000These teachings will be irrelevant for you because anything that you… nobody ever thought you, this little finger, don't bite it off.
01:20:09.000It is a poor little finger, nobody had to tell you this because it's you.
01:20:14.000What you experience as myself, with that you have no conflict.
01:20:31.000You talked about, in your book that I was reading, you talked about the different kinds of yoga and you told a very funny story about God getting them all together.
01:20:57.000Using action to attain unity with the existence.
01:21:02.000If you use your intelligence to get...
01:21:04.000attain unity with the existence, then it is called as jnana yoga, yoga of intelligence.
01:21:10.000If you use your emotion to get there, that is called as bhakti yoga, yoga of devotion or emotion.
01:21:17.000And if you use your energies by refining and expanding your energies, if you do it, that is called as Kriya Yoga, the science and technology of expanding one's energies.
01:21:28.000So, these are the only four ways you can do, because these are the only four things you have, rest is all imagination.
01:21:34.000You have a body, you have a mind, you have emotions, and you have energies, life energies within you.
01:21:40.000Beyond this, rest is all made up in terms of your beliefs and imaginations.
01:22:35.000Now maybe your mind is more dominant, maybe your emotion is more dominant, maybe energy is more dominant, body could have receded a little bit.
01:23:41.000Another is a Bhakti yogi, emotional and devotional yogi.
01:23:46.000Another is a Kriya yogi, master of energies.
01:23:50.000So suddenly a storm picks up and they start running to find a shelter.
01:23:56.000The Bhakti yogi who has, you know, who knows the geography of temples in the area, he says, let's go in this direction, there's an ancient temple there.
01:25:32.000Without any equipment, you can master your limbs in such a way that you become very resilient.
01:25:37.000People are asking me, Sadhguru, you're sixty-five years of age, how will you do this thirty thousand kilometers on a lone motorcycle yourself, riding like this across twenty-six or twenty-seven countries?
01:25:48.000I was just joking with them, and I said, see, this is an advertisement for a yogic back.
01:26:48.000The question is only whether you realize that or not.
01:26:50.000If you realize that, if you experience that, then we call you a yogi.
01:26:55.000A yogi means not somebody who is twisting and turning.
01:26:57.000Yogi means one who is experiencing the union right now, that though you're an individual, your experience has gone beyond your individual nature.
01:27:07.000You're experiencing the universality of your existence.
01:27:11.000Your individual nature is a psychological condition.
01:27:16.000See, physically, this is what we've been talking about, soil, nourishment, everything.
01:27:20.000Physically, if people don't understand this, if you close these two holes, you know...
01:27:28.000Keep your mouth also closed, close this and see.
01:27:31.000If you're not connected with the oxygen bubble around you, you won't exist for two minutes.
01:27:37.000So, where is your individuality, I'm saying, physically?
01:27:41.000With food, water, with everything else, we can say it in so many different ways.
01:27:46.000But physically, you know there is no individuality to your body.
01:27:51.000Only psychologically, this individual nature, we have taken it too seriously, simply because it's the magnanimity of creation that… which has given us an individual experience.
01:28:03.000Actually, in this cosmos, we are like a speck.
01:28:08.000If you… if you look at the solar system itself from somewhere a million light years away, the solar system itself is a tiny speck.
01:28:18.000In that planet, earth is a micro speck.
01:28:21.000In that micro speck, Texas is a super micro speck.
01:28:25.000In that, Austin is a super, super micro speck.
01:30:30.000I was in 98 for the first time when I came to United States.
01:30:36.000I went there to the U.S. Embassy in Chennai to get my visa.
01:30:42.000So, this is… you had to… at that time, you had to go at like 6.30 in the morning.
01:30:49.000It would start at that time, seven o'clock, they will start seeing you.
01:30:53.000I went there because, you know, the Consul General, a fine lady, she had heard about me.
01:30:59.000So, instead of just doing at the counter, she asked me to come to her office.
01:31:04.000So, I went there and there she asked me, see, you're going to United States, we've heard so much about you in India, but you know, if you want to teach in United States, you need a teacher, you know, yoga teacher certificate.
01:31:27.000I don't… I don't… I'm not certified.
01:31:30.000Then we had a long chat and then I was coming out by about maybe 7.45.
01:31:35.000Then I see outside the US Embassy, at the… outside the compound, one young man, young boy, like maybe in his early twenties, sitting and crying bitterly, he's crying his heart out.
01:33:02.000You don't have any desire to find what they were thinking?
01:33:05.000No, because my own clarity has never failed me.
01:33:08.000I don't want to confuse myself because we don't know in these many thousands of years who all have added whatever nonsense they've added to it.
01:34:05.000Do you find that that's kind of contradictory in some ways to your existence because what you're doing is expressing your experience to other people?
01:36:39.000I'm saying, if I see a leaf, it's a question.
01:36:41.000If I see… I look at my father, it's a question.
01:36:43.000If I look at my mother, it's a question.
01:36:45.000They were wonderful, loving parents, but I had questions about everything, nothing negative, just a question because question is a tool to dig deeper.
01:36:55.000Question is not a way of insulting somebody.
01:36:57.000I ask you a question, This is not to corner you, to insult you, to do something.
01:37:05.000Question is the only way to dig deeper, isn't it?
01:37:08.000Like, you know, like people have their experiences, their opinions about everything in the universe.
01:37:15.000For example, before coming here, a whole lot of people calling him, Sadhguru, don't go on Joe Rogan's show.
01:37:56.000And I've worked with really hardcore, you know, criminals who have been convicted for murder and more.
01:38:05.000They have done terrible things, but when they are with me, they are such wonderful guys, lively and fantastic guys.
01:38:12.000But if you meet them when they are angry or dissatisfied, they may be terrible.
01:38:16.000If you meet them when they are happy and joyful, they are fantastic people.
01:38:20.000So, I'm saying every human being has opinions about everything.
01:38:25.000This is one thing I've done in my life is people who are with me for twenty-five, thirty, forty years with me, right next to me, I've… it's very difficult for people to understand this.
01:38:35.000I have not formed a single opinion about them.
01:38:47.000Because what you are going to be tomorrow is what is important, isn't it?
01:38:51.000When you're experiencing these prisoners, do you think that that's part of the problem with having had a horrible past, you know, having been a criminal, having been a murderer, is that you can never really get past those experiences in a lot of people's eyes.
01:39:26.000It is just that in a given moment, if somebody makes one wrong judgment, he utters something or he does something in that moment, that may end up in the prison.
01:39:36.000I've met hundreds of them, thousands of them.
01:39:39.000Most of them are absolutely wonderful guys.
01:39:41.000There are a few who are mentally, pathologically somewhere else.
01:41:04.000So, there were twelve wards in the coimitor prison, each with about two hundred prisoners.
01:41:09.000So, I took the long-term prisoners, one ward with two hundred people.
01:41:14.000So, when I went there, I… they wanted to put them in the… see, normally prism is there, they push them into one hall and say, sit down here.
01:43:48.000And now after… after about six years, he was executed.
01:43:54.000And we also took local industry and promised them that, you know, when they come out, there'll be jobs for them, those who can come out after a few years.
01:44:02.000Because in India, life term is twenty years, not life-life.
01:44:07.000And in twenty years, if there's good behavior, fourteen years they'll get a remission.
01:44:12.000So, many of them who have been there for murder, in fourteen years' time they will come out.
01:44:19.000Everywhere everybody looks at them suspiciously.
01:44:21.000So, we set up the local businesses to include them into their factories and businesses so that they're not going to commit murder every day.
01:44:30.000It's just happened once in their lifetime.
01:44:33.000So, how does yoga reform these people?
01:45:04.000So you just label somebody as a criminal.
01:45:08.000What you need to understand is there's a deep-rooted unhappiness or frustration or something that's built up because of social reasons or parental reasons or genetic reasons.
01:46:21.000It is you understand human experiences coming from within me.
01:46:26.000See, right now, let's say we are working together and I'm oppressive, whatever, and you think you're unhappy because of me.
01:46:34.000But if you realize, see, my unhappiness is my doing, you will undo it, isn't it?
01:46:41.000You think your unhappiness is because of me.
01:46:43.000It goes on and on because it's under my control now.
01:46:47.000The day you realize my unhappiness, the source of my unhappiness, unhappiness is me, not somebody else, and you take charge of that aspect, there is a method to do that.
01:47:02.000Once you're happy by your own nature, then you will do what is most needed.
01:47:07.000Because once you're very happy, you have no pursuit of happiness.
01:47:13.000Your life is an expression of joy, not in pursuit of happiness.
01:47:16.000This is the shift that needs to happen in the world.
01:47:19.000Right now, people are in pursuit of happiness.
01:47:21.000If your life becomes an expression of your joy rather than being pursuit of happiness, you will start… stop squeezing the world the way you're squeezing it.
01:47:30.000This soil, this environment, these problems, everything is in pursuit of human happiness and well-being.
01:47:37.000Do you think that the physical practice of yoga, meaning the exercise aspect of it, alleviates tension and allows people to relax enough to look at their life in a different way?
01:48:18.000So actually, in the… you know, the traditionally, what yoga says is, if you master one posture, that means generally, Two hours, forty minutes.
01:48:28.000If you can sit one way without any sense of discomfort, irritation, agitation, nothing in your system, this is your posture.
01:51:19.000So we made this, it took us some 680 tons of steel.
01:51:25.000Now we're doing another one near Bangalore, the same one, but now we're doing it with almost 170 tons less because now we've figured out the design much better.
01:52:05.000So you can see the construction method when you're saying that.
01:52:07.000You can see the construction material.
01:52:09.000Not really that visible, but you can see for an observer, you can see that, which gives a kind of roughness to the statue, not very smooth.
01:52:17.000So, this yogi that devised these 112… So, when he came, he appeared somewhere in Himalayas, and people saw that he was dancing wildly in ecstatic states, completely oblivious to everything around him,
01:52:34.000For days on end, weeks on end, he just sat still unmoving.
01:52:40.000So, initially lot of thousands of people gathered some miracle is happening, but slowly because he didn't perform any miracles, no fireworks happened, people got bored and they left.
01:52:49.000Only seven disciples hung on because they saw the greatest miracle is the man is not getting up for food, water, toilet, nothing.
01:53:00.000That means he's beyond the physical nature.
01:53:02.000He's just sat there for months on end sometimes.
01:53:05.000The only sign of his aliveness was tears of ecstasy were dribbled… dribbling down his cheeks.
01:53:15.000So, when he came to his… some moments when he came to his consciousness, they pleaded, they wanted to learn, what is it that is happening to you?
01:53:23.000So, he tried to be dismissive, he didn't want to be in touch with them.
01:53:27.000But when they hung on, when they persisted, then he put them on a preparatory kind of work.
01:53:33.000They went through the preparatory work and then he started expounding for many years, what is the science of how human mechanism is made.
01:54:11.000So, ten avatars are, first avatar is called machya avatar, which means the life was in the form of fish or it was water, it was in the water.
01:54:20.000The second one is Kurmaavatar, which means it's a turtle.
01:54:27.000That means it became an amphibious life.
01:54:45.000The next one is a full-grown man but a volatile man.
01:54:48.000He's so angry and so crazy, a fighting man that always he went about chopping off people to he got so angry and he lopped off his own mother's head.
01:54:58.000So the next one is a peaceful man, he's a Rama Athar, he's a peaceful, gentle man.
01:55:04.000The next one is a loving man, Krishna avatar.
01:55:07.000The next one is a Buddha avatar who is a meditative man.
01:55:10.000The next one, the tenth one is supposed to be the mystical man.
01:55:13.000These are not individual people to be seen.
01:55:16.000These… this is the evolution of life on the planet.
01:55:19.000If you look at Darwin's theory of evolution, somewhere it runs parallel to this, from waterborne life to amphibious life to this way, half man, half animal, dwarfed man, like this it has grown.
01:55:32.000So, he talked about this and he said, see, if you want to evolve further, then something in relationship to the earth and the sun must change.
01:55:43.000Otherwise, physiologically you're not going to evolve further.
01:55:46.000But you have a consciousness with which you can transform yourself absolutely.
01:55:53.000And become completely different from what you are right now.
01:55:56.000Right now, you're available to all the forces of nature.
01:55:59.000Right now, in many ways, you're enslaved to what's happening around you.
01:56:02.000You can rise above this and evolve consciously.
01:56:06.000But physiological evolution has come to a standstill because planetary moment and who you are right now, the planet and the solar system is functioning like a potter's wheel to make this happen.
01:56:19.000This life… Like a potter's wheel, you know?
01:56:35.000Physiologically, your evolution has come to a place.
01:56:38.000Unless there is some serious change in the relationship between the planet, And the sun, that will not happen, but consciously you can evolve.
01:56:46.000So then he propounds one hundred and twelve ways as to how you can do it.
01:56:51.000Hundred and twelve distinct ways how you can do it.
01:57:39.000See, right now you look at this ceiling and you think it's full of star-like lights, but actually there's more empty space than lights, isn't it?
01:57:47.000But because our visual apparatus are in a certain… certain way, designed in a certain way, it gives more prominence to light because that's what we see more clearly.
01:58:05.000But nothing is the most powerful dimension of the existence because it is in the lap of the nothingness, everything is happening.
01:58:13.000What you call as everything is just one percent.
01:58:16.000Do you think this was a real person, a real individual or do you think it's representative of the learning of yoga and the best way to establish it, to express it was to make it a person?
01:58:30.000It's a real person because the places where he came, what he spoke, everything is recorded in history, largely by lore.
01:58:38.000Today people are trying to write it down in books because in India we don't believe in scholarship.
01:58:45.000We believe in experience, inner experience.
01:58:48.000So it's always transmitted as a oral tradition for a long time.
01:58:51.000These days people are writing down in many ways.
01:58:53.000It was a real person because… Pretty spectacular human being if they could do all the things.
01:58:58.000See, when he came down south, in southern India at that time, people were way shorter than the northern people.
01:59:05.000So, they say he was twice the height of an average South Indian woman.
01:59:10.000So, they say he must have been… because an average South Indian woman, tribal woman were like four, four and a half feet, so he must have been seven or eight feet tall, that people said he was twice that.
01:59:23.000And they say when he stood next to your horse, he was as tall as the horse's ears.
01:59:30.000But do you think these are exaggerations?
01:59:34.000Exaggerations could be there, but because his physical size doesn't mean anything for his yoga.
01:59:41.000So there's no point exaggerating that aspect, I'm saying.
01:59:44.000See, if he was a warrior, somebody may exaggerate him.
01:59:47.000But for a yogi, what is the point making him a big guy, physically?
01:59:51.000To make him divine, so physically unique.
01:59:55.000See, in India, The Indian culture has only spiritual paths.
02:00:02.000There is no real religion per se, because a religion needs a belief, all right?
02:00:10.000Spiritual process needs a quest, a seeking.
02:00:13.000If you are on the spiritual path, we call you a seeker.
02:00:16.000If you ascribe to religion, we call you a believer, all right?
02:00:21.000Belief means something that you do not know.
02:00:24.000Because an authority speaks, you believe that.
02:00:26.000It could be your father who says that this is the truth and you believe him as a child, then it may be a priest, then it may be somebody bigger, or it may be in a book.
02:00:37.000You believe it because it comes from an authority.
02:00:40.000But the nature of that culture, the Eastern culture sees there is no authority for us.
02:00:50.000So that is the essence of Eastern mysticism and Eastern spirituality, that it is… you're always a seeker, never a believer.
02:01:00.000So you think that yoga just emanated from this one incredibly unique human being that was larger than everybody else that had supernatural abilities that existed 15,000 years ago?
02:03:58.000Wherever these yogis went, suddenly those cultures where they went saw a sudden upsurge in the knowledge of geometry.
02:04:08.000Wherever you see extraordinary sense of geometry, which is not in line with the tribal existence that they had, that means a yogi came there.
02:04:19.000Sense of geometry meaning like the structures that they built?
02:04:22.000Yes, structures that they built, the artifacts they created, the way they arranged things around themselves.
02:04:29.000Suddenly they had a different sense of geometry because yoga is essentially a cosmic geometry.
02:04:48.000See, there is some substance and a lot of imagination with this UFO business.
02:04:58.000Because we are always thinking life, you know, like all this… I'm saying this not with any… There are many people who could have experienced something, who could have seen something.
02:05:11.000I'm saying generally the popular imagination of a UFO, craft will come and land, somebody will come out of it.
02:05:16.000So you're thinking like this because that's how human beings operate, all right?
02:05:21.000That we will go land somewhere, then the door opens, we come out.
02:05:25.000How do you know that's how they also do it?
02:06:16.000So, people have seen things here and there, some of it could be mistakes, some of it could be exaggeration, some of it could be just total lies.
02:06:25.000But definitely some people have seen something, some people have experienced something.
02:06:29.000There's no denying, everybody will not be lying.
02:08:55.000There is only thus far that your language goes.
02:08:58.000When you speak something, human languages, I have to be logically correct, otherwise you cannot speak.
02:09:05.000But how are you experiencing this thing?
02:09:06.000Can you just tell me how you're experiencing these things?
02:09:09.000See, in certain spaces, There are very strong presence, which is when you feel the texture of that life, you know it is not like anything that we know here.
02:09:24.000It is… it has a different source than the life that we are.
02:09:29.000When I say the life that we are, See, this is the yogic sciences.
02:09:35.000This will confuse people if we go that far because people are thinking yoga is for backache, yoga is for health, yoga is for slimming down.
02:09:43.000We've already established that's not the case.
02:09:45.000So, yoga means you know the texture of life.
02:10:18.000But fortunately, every other life from a single microbe to a human being to every other creature in some way is a reflection of this life because it's all connected.
02:10:27.000Even the evolutionary sciences are saying the same thing.
02:10:29.000Even the religions are saying the same thing, all right?
02:10:33.000So, in that sense, I know the texture of this life and that life and every other life here.
02:10:40.000But there are some lives which don't have the texture, which are totally different.
02:10:45.000And how are you experiencing these lives?
02:10:53.000You want me to say something ridiculous?
02:11:03.000It will be logical because it will not fit into the framework of human logic.
02:11:09.000Well, the framework of human logic is based on our own experience and interpretation of the life that we lived.
02:11:14.000It doesn't mean that other people haven't experienced or interpreted something that is beyond our comprehension because we haven't experienced it personally.
02:12:04.000And I kept a bowl of water about three inches above the head.
02:12:10.000And when this life entered and I tried to hold it within that body, you won't believe this bowl which is three inches, the person is lying down on the ground, on wet soil, you know, they just put a bed sheet and this person is lying down.
02:12:26.000This bowl is about three inches above the head on the ground.
02:13:23.000It doesn't serve a purpose as to how you can use because it could be I have to admit, I was stepping into an area where I don't know a damn thing.
02:16:06.000I think they're only crazy because we haven't experienced them.
02:16:09.000If you tried to explain many of the things that we take for granted because they're normal to someone who's never experienced them, like if you tried to experience fire to someone who'd never experienced fire, it would be the craziest idea that you could run across them.
02:16:27.000That there's a thing that's not alive, but it consumes things and it could kill all life on this planet, but it could also serve a purpose to heat your home and cook your food.
02:16:49.000Jataragni means the fire of stomach and the reproductive aspect, these two fires, which keep your survival going.
02:16:56.000Chitagni is the fire of your intelligence, which propels a human being to do so many things.
02:17:01.000Bhutagni is the fire of five elements of earth, earth, water, air, fire and space.
02:17:08.000These five elements which is the composite of what everything physical is.
02:17:12.000So these three fires, only if you keep them in control.
02:17:16.000Right now, you know, for example, we're talking about the soil.
02:17:21.000These whole civilizations have been built because of our gastronomic fire and our intellectual fire.
02:17:31.000The same gastronomic fire, if it's unquenched, it can burn the world down.
02:17:37.000Right now, UN agencies are predicting that by 2035, there'll be dozens of civil wars across the world because food shortages will cause that.
02:17:52.000Because this fire is not met means people will set fire to each other.
02:17:58.000How did you know that these entities or whatever these things are that you experienced existed?
02:19:45.000This is why in yogic sciences, we don't attach any significance to what you think and feel because out of a million-piece jigsaw, you found a few pieces and you're making your conclusions.
02:19:56.000It's not of any relevance for one who wants to know.
02:20:00.000It may be of relevance for one who wants to survive.
02:20:03.000It may be of relevance for one who wants to win a race with somebody else.
02:20:07.000Okay, your horse… you figured out the horse better than somebody else, you win the race.
02:20:11.000But it's not of any relevance for someone who wants to know.
02:20:58.000So, this is yoga, that you understand the sense perception is dividing the world and this division is needed for your survival process, but this division is no use for you to know life.
02:21:12.000So, the yogic sciences are focused on how to transcend the sensory perception, how to suspend your senses and simply perceive life without the division.
02:21:23.000If you do that, everything that is here will be in some way known to you.
02:21:27.000And there is so much here that people don't see.
02:21:31.000If you talk about it, you look like a mumbo-jumbo witch doctor, so you don't talk about these things.
02:21:39.000But how did you know that it was going to be in that area?
02:21:42.000It's not that I knew it's in that area.
02:21:44.000I had heard stories about that place, but I thought I'll just go there one time just to see because it's a magnificent place.
02:21:52.000By any standard, it's a beautiful, beautiful place.
02:21:56.000So, it's a little over… the lake is around 4,400 feet above main sea level.
02:22:02.000The Kalash Peak is almost 19,000 feet.
02:22:07.000So, once I went and the magnificent nature of that… See, the mountain is a place, this is a yogic tradition that when a yogi gets to know certain things, he knows he cannot share it, his experience.
02:22:23.000He cannot share it because nobody will understand it.
02:22:26.000Because it cannot be understood, it can only be experienced.
02:22:29.000So, what he will do is, he will store it in an energy form in a place where there is not too much foot… human footprint, at the same time, it's not completely inaccessible.
02:22:41.000There are many places like this in India.
02:22:43.000There are places like that in other parts of the world also.
02:22:46.000One fantastic place that you must visit is in United States is Matotipila.
02:23:56.000And many other yogis later on, many Buddhist teachers like Padmasambhava and Manjushri, all these people and even the Jain monks, they all went and stored their energies there because the knowledge that they know, they don't want it to be lost.
02:24:12.000It can't be transmitted to people because you will not find the suitable people to do that.
02:24:17.000So, you place it somewhere where in future somebody who has the capability will access this.
02:26:16.000I had a television shoot, I had to shoot fifty-two weeks of material in about four to five days.
02:26:23.000So, from whole day I'm shooting and if I sit down for thirty-forty minutes of shoot, I'm like my whole… all my clothes are wet with sweat, I have to change my clothes because I'm sweating so much.
02:26:37.000And then after shooting the whole day on the second or third day, I came home and I was like, feeling like my brains are getting fried up, so hot.
02:26:46.000Then I took the thermometer and put it, it said 107. I thought, oh man, I'm killing myself right now.
02:26:54.000So, with my entire… my clothes, everything, I went and stood under the cold shower.
02:26:59.000Then I called the doctor and said, you know, it was reading 107, I stood under the cold shower.
02:27:05.000So, this is the smartest thing you've done in your entire life.
02:27:09.000If you had been in that for another few minutes, you would have a stroke or you would have something, for sure.
02:27:15.000Then they said it's some kind of what?
02:27:21.000I had typhoid medicine, then I got malaria medicine.
02:27:24.000Then they said three different types of malarias they're diagnosed in one month's time and they changed the medication, changed the medication.
02:28:54.000There they said it's best you go to some physician in New York.
02:28:58.000He's the best guy, you must go there because by now almost seven weeks I've been running continuous temperature, I've been traveling all over the world.
02:29:07.000So, I went to New York and they said, you know, you must get admitted, we'll check.
02:29:13.000Then I got admitted, by then I can… you know, I'm having difficulty walking, I'm just really go… like become weak.
02:29:21.000Then… and by then my lymph nodes have swollen up so badly, excruciating pain.
02:29:27.000So, they said they may have to do surgery and they have to do a biopsy first and see what is it, is it malignant or whatever.
02:29:37.000Then I'm in the hospital, next day morning for the… it's a general anesthesia, they have a pre-check for anesthesia.
02:29:44.000So in that funny gown which is open on all sides, you know, I'm wearing that holding like this and trying to walk holding onto the wall.
02:29:51.000I got into the elevator to go to another floor.
02:29:54.000In between in one floor, the lift stopped.
02:32:20.000What you think is you is not just contained in the boundaries of this body.
02:32:27.000If you are willing to open up that boundary, the whole existence is with you.
02:32:36.000So you opened up your body after all those weeks and you don't think it has anything to do with the antibiotics you were taking or you were finally getting some rest?
02:32:44.000Antibiotics didn't give me a respite at all.
02:33:07.000This swelling, which they said without looking inside, they will do biopsy and most probably they'll do surgery along with that, which was excruciating pain, just went down.
02:33:17.000But it went down after you rested, right?
02:33:34.000I'm just trying to piece together why...
02:33:37.000So I'm saying when doctors, every qualified doctor is saying that I'm in a state where you'll have to inform the family because I'm in a life and death situation, you don't recover just because four days you sit there with eyes closed,
02:34:15.000See, one aspect of your nature is survival, for example, for every human being.
02:34:21.000Because of survival, you try to build boundaries around yourself.
02:34:25.000Whether it's a national boundary or an individual boundary, your house boundary or your personal boundaries, these are all, you know, self-preservation boundaries.
02:34:34.000But there is also something within you which wants to expand, which doesn't like boundaries.
02:34:40.000Why people suffer the prison like that is just the boundaries.
02:34:45.000Nothing else wrong, it's much bigger than your home, the prison.
02:34:49.000Actually, your kind of company, I'm saying if you're in that kind of life, it's your kind of company, food is good, you're far fitter than most people on the outside, you don't have to do a job to get your food.
02:36:49.000See, right now, when you say state of mind, you're talking about whether you're equanimous or you're disturbed or you're happy, unhappy, or you're able to penetrate something, you're not able to penetrate something in terms of intellect.
02:37:05.000But all these are dependent because it is like your computer.
02:37:09.000If you remove the data, it's just a blank screen.
02:37:12.000So, if I remove all the memory that you have, you're just a blank screen, isn't it?
02:37:18.000So, right now, your ideas of right and wrong, your ideas of your nationality, your ideas of your race, your ideas of your religion, your ideas of your family, your ideas of yourself is all in the memory bank.
02:37:31.000If we just take out that memory chip… Nothing.
02:37:36.000So, your whole intellect is functioning from that because you can see… because you cannot see the end of the universe.
02:37:44.000If you could see the end of the universe, you would say, it's just me here, nobody else.
02:37:49.000Because you cannot see, because you're here, maybe there are people there.
02:38:28.000Whole accumulation of impressions, isn't it, through five senses?
02:38:31.000What you have seen, what you have heard, what you have smelled, what you have tasted, what you have touched, from this you have formed a whole lot of information with which you have a mind of your own.
02:38:40.000How rich that information is makes you look that smart in a given society, all right?
02:38:46.000If you're well informed, just because you have a good data chip, people think you're smart, not necessarily.
02:38:53.000So, essentially smart means always in comparison to somebody else.
02:38:56.000So, these days everybody's saying they have a smartphone.
02:39:00.000See, when would you call somebody smart?
02:39:56.000So, dissection may show me the… how your heart is, how your liver is, how your kidney is, but you won't meet Joe out there, all right?
02:40:08.000So, by dissection you can know physical things.
02:40:11.000By dissection you cannot know anything which is beyond that, all right?
02:40:15.000The life in you cannot be perceived by dissection of any kind.
02:40:19.000So, now with an intellect which is a knife, With this knife, if you try to stitch your clothes, then you will be like today's fashion, everybody's in tatters.
02:40:30.000So, to stitch, you need a different kind of tool.
02:40:37.000To cut, you need a different kind of tool.
02:40:39.000Right now, with the cutting tool, people are trying to do everything.
02:40:45.000At that time, I was crisscrossing India on my motorcycle where I was just in my early twenties.
02:40:50.000And whole night I've been riding, early morning I come into a small place where there is a street side tea shop where I had sat down and had a tea and those days this motorcycle chain, you know, if you ride one six hundred,
02:41:05.000seven hundred kilometers really fast, it becomes slack.
02:43:10.000Intellect is coming out with permutations and combinations of information that you already possess.
02:43:16.000So, you experiencing whatever this life form was is beyond words because it's beyond anything… See, because words are a product of our intellect.
02:43:30.000Language is a product of our intellect.
02:43:32.000That's why I said, if I speak, I'll end up speaking illogically.
02:43:36.000Because intellectually, you cannot think illogically.
02:43:41.000If you think, you can only think logically.
02:43:44.000Somebody may not agree with your logic, but you can only think logically within yourself, isn't it?
02:44:12.000So this experience that you had, whatever it is, we don't have the tools to express it in a way that a person who has an experience can understand it.
02:45:29.000somebody who's aspiring for a billion dollars, I'll give you billion dollars, but for everybody else in the town, I'll give them ten billion dollars.
02:46:09.000For some time, let's assume you're six feet tall.
02:46:12.000Now, you stand like a tall man, you walk like a tall man, you feel like a tall man, you think like a tall man.
02:46:18.000You went to another society where everybody is eight feet tall.
02:46:22.000Suddenly, you walk like a short man, think like a short man, feel like a short man.
02:46:26.000So, your entire perception is always in comparison when it comes to sense organs.
02:46:32.000This is what yoga is about, going beyond the senses because this thing that you perceive in comparison is only useful for survival process.
02:46:43.000It is not good enough to know the nature of the universe.
02:46:46.000These are all realms which only interest people who just want to know.
02:46:53.000There may be no use, but you want to know.
02:46:57.000So there is that aspect in every human being.
02:47:00.000Whether you have kept it alive or you kept it buried is a question.
02:47:05.000That's that old quote, comparison is the thief of joy.
02:47:35.000And from March 21st, I'm riding 30,000 kilometers and I'm 65. What I see is in the last two years, I've been talking to so many people, influencers, scientists, politicians, leaders.
02:47:49.000Everybody knows there's a serious problem.
02:47:51.000And everybody knows what is the solution also, generally.
02:47:56.000But I think everybody was waiting for some idiot to come and bell the cat.
02:48:02.000So, next 100 days from March 21st, 100 days we want the whole world to talk about soil because I'm addressing the COP15 where 170 nation representatives are there, where we are presenting these documents.
02:48:16.000Before that, we want to raise three to four billion people to talk about soil.
02:48:22.000Once 60% of the electorate has spoken in the world that soil is a deep concern to them, believe me, every government will get active on the job.
02:48:32.000Because in a democracy, the only currency is numbers.
02:49:10.000See, many, many great beings have come in this world, but when they spoke, hardly ten people could hear them.
02:49:20.000This is the first time you can sit here and talk to the entire world.
02:49:24.000When you have such tools in your hands, if you do not transform humanity, if you do not do what is absolutely needed for this generation, it shows that we don't care enough.
02:49:34.000I don't want to be that one who didn't care enough to do something which matters because right now we are consuming the soil and food that belongs to the unborn child.